Nightcap Hour 1: Kentucky SURVIVES SCARE vs Santa Clara + Miami MOVES BY Missouri + UCONN CRUISES by Furman

Summary

Nightcap Hour 1: Kentucky Survives Santa Clara, Miami Outlasts Missouri, & UConn Dominates Furman

Podcast: Nightcap
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe (“Unc”), Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson, Joe “ISO Joe” Johnson
Date: March 21, 2026
Episode Focus: First reactions and lively debate on wild March Madness tournament games, especially Kentucky vs. Santa Clara, Miami vs. Missouri, UConn vs. Furman, and more.

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Main Theme

This “March Madness” edition of Nightcap is all about high drama, buzzer-beaters, bracket agony, and instant reactions to the NCAA tournament’s latest shockers. Shannon Sharpe, Chad Ochocinco, and Joe Johnson dive deep into wild finishes, discuss standout players, and reminisce about their own sports upbringings, with their signature blend of humor, storytelling, and authenticity.

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Kentucky Narrowly Escapes Santa Clara in Overtime

[10:40-17:36]

• Kentucky (#7 seed) wins a thriller over #10 Santa Clara, but only after surviving a banked-in 45-foot buzzer beater that forced overtime.
• Ochocinco breaks down the closing sequence:

  "I had a three-point lead with 2.4 seconds to go. I didn't think the guy gonna bank in a 45 footer." (Chad Ochocinco, 11:00)

• Joe Johnson calls it “pure luck” but gives Kentucky credit for toughness:

  "I thought Kentucky got lucky, bro. They got lucky…Santa Clara had them on their heels the whole game." (ISO Joe Johnson, 12:14)

• Alan Graves of Santa Clara thought he'd won it with two seconds left, only for Kentucky’s Oweh (pronounced “o-way”) to bank in a desperation heave.
• Player of the game: Oweh, with a career-high 35 points (43 minutes, 8 rebounds, 7 assists)—“did a little bit of everything.” (Ochocinco, 13:34)
• Santa Clara coach wanted a timeout before the tying three, but officials didn't grant it, leading to controversy:

  “They didn’t give it to him… I’m sure the staff and the players are upset about that.” (Ochocinco, 14:22)

• The crew reinforces the tournament's unpredictability:

  “That’s the motto of March Madness. Survive and advance. And they definitely survived and they advanced.” (Ochocinco, 15:18)

• Kentucky isn’t the star-studded powerhouse of old, but shows grit; Santa Clara “played about as well as they can play.”

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Miami’s Late Surge Sinks Missouri

[22:34-28:29]

• Miami (#7 seed) overcomes #10 Missouri 80-66, pulling away with an 11-0 run in the final stretch.
• Malik Renault scores 24 (19 in second half) after early struggles.
• Ochocinco: “Friday night felt like the de facto road game for Miami…but they were able to handle the environment and the pesky Tigers.” (22:34)
• The crew teases each other about bracket picks—Ochocinco jokes about always picking Miami in upsets.
• Joe and ISO Joe discuss how March Madness busts even the best basketball minds:

  “Your basketball knowledge… don’t really matter. It’s all about who gonna get lucky.” (Joe Johnson, 23:37)

• Miami’s lack of bench depth discussed, with heavy minutes for starters:

  "Miami top heavy with they starting five…it ain’t but a 40 minute game…your best players…gonna have to…play through a little fatigue." (ISO Joe Johnson, 28:02)

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UConn Crushes Furman Behind Tyrese Reed Jr.’s Historic Night

[39:45-43:19]

• UConn wins 82-71 vs. Furman. Center Tyrese Reed Jr. dominates: 31 points, 27 rebounds (one of only three 30-20+ rebounding games in NCAA tourney history since 1960).
• UConn’s poor 3-point shooting (5/25), but Reed compensates by controlling the paint—18 offensive rebounds for UConn vs. Furman’s 4.
• Ochocinco marvels at Reed’s line:

  "He had 27 rebounds. In a college game…in a tournament game!" (Chad Ochocinco, 41:22)

• The panel transitions into a fun discussion of the value of old-school, blue collar roles:

  “They pay guys to do that: rebound. You can make you a lot of money doing that.” (ISO Joe Johnson, 43:12)

• Dennis Rodman as the archetype of the elite rebounder: "Dennis Rodman probably averaged about six points a game, but he's crazy rebound champ." (Ochocinco, 43:46)

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Florida’s Size Overwhelms PV; Bench Depth, Blueblood Privilege, and Strategies

[29:35-39:02]

• Florida blows out Prairie View (PV) by 59 after a tight start; dominance on the glass due to major height advantage.
• PV’s only hope was to shoot an absurd number of 3’s and get hot—otherwise they had no answer inside.
• "When you play them number one seeds, man, you can't go in there timid, you gotta go in there swinging." (ISO Joe Johnson, 29:09)
• Florida outscores PV 54-20 in rebounds: “They got the number one rebounder in the NCAA… the big kid might be a lottery pick.” (Ochocinco, 30:17)
• Discussion about “depth” in college basketball and how blueblood teams can run more bodies, but most teams ride their starters.
• Joe Johnson shouts out Dante from earlier on the show—Florida has “some dogs.”

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UCLA Escapes vs. UCF, Teeth Fly, and Gritty Details

[49:45-52:44]

• UCLA beats UCF 75-71. Key stats: UCLA forces 17 Knights turnovers, collects 13 steals & 9 blocks; UCF shoots just 5-16 from the line.
• "The Knights put up a fight with a late surge, but the Bruins walked away with the win." (Ochocinco, 49:45)
• Notable anecdote: UCLA’s Sky Clark loses a tooth fighting for a loose ball—a literal tooth knocked out captured on camera.

  “Sky Clark lost a tooth in a fight for a loose ball. God damn, man…like a real Jack-o-lantern.” (Ochocinco, 50:49)

• The show turns silly about dental work: "I want that real stuff. I want the real good teeth." (Ochocinco, 51:00) and how “every loose ball” counts in March.

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Memorable Quotes & Banter

Throughout

• On the randomness of March:

  “When it comes to picking March Madness…your basketball prowess, it don’t really matter. It’s all about…who gonna get lucky.” (Joe Johnson, 23:37)

• On upsets:

  “You just can’t go with the higher seeds…at some point, you gotta start picking, like, you know what, I could see a potential upset here.” (Ochocinco, 11:55)

• Ochocinco on bracket pain:

  “My bracket. But there’s another day on Saturday.” (Ochocinco, 07:06)

• On family, the "cycle" of childhood myths, and the tooth fairy:

  “Quiet is kept, though. I’m repeating the cycle. I ain’t gonna lie to you. French fry swear it’s a Santa Claus, boy.” (ISO Joe Johnson, 54:57)

• On childhood poverty:

  “Didn’t realize how broke you were because everybody else was broke just like you…It wasn’t like nobody had getting new cars…Made you appreciate everything that you got.” (Ochocinco, 68:01, 68:36)

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Fun & Cultural Tangents

[46:12-68:36]

• Panel tells stories from their athletic careers—weight checks, old-school coaches, sausage and sardines, the candy lady, and “truck driver steak” (honey buns).
• Reflections on grandma’s discipline, the rules of the house growing up in the South, and how those cultural roots shaped them.
• The banter flows naturally, like a late-night barbershop.

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Notable Timestamps

• [10:40] Start of Kentucky vs. Santa Clara breakdown / last-second heroics
• [22:34] Miami vs. Missouri recap
• [29:35] Florida’s blowout rebound advantage story
• [39:45] UConn’s Tyrese Reed Jr. discussed at length
• [49:45] UCLA-UCF thriller, lost teeth, and gritty plays
• [54:57] Panel on tooth fairy, Santa Claus, and repeating family cycles
• [68:01] Childhood, family life, and appreciation for simple things
• [51:00-52:44] Humorous interlude about dental plans and losing teeth for the win

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Show Tone & Energy

• Upbeat, playful, deeply knowledgeable about both basketball and broader sports culture.
• Blends game breakdowns, stats, wild tournament moments, friendly trash talk about brackets, and cultural storytelling (“real talk”).
• Signature authenticity: no sugarcoating, no sports clichés—just real reactions and plenty of humor.

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In Summary

This Nightcap episode is the essence of after-hours sports talk: instant analysis, real passion for basketball’s madness, bracket chaos, and the joy (and pain!) of rooting for your picks. The hosts provide sharp takes, player shoutouts, wild stories both on- and off-court, and never miss a chance to riff on old times. A must-listen for both hoops lovers and fans of sports personalities who keep it 100.

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, okay.

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Okay. So. All right. Kentucky beat number 10 Santa Clara in overtime. I thought I had this one. I really, really thought I had it. Joe. Hold on, hold on. You picked. Oh man, Joe. I had a three point lead with 2.4 seconds to go. I didn't think the guy gonna bank in a 45 footer.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, Santa Clara should be. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Ortega or. Wow.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Not today.

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A we scored a career high 35 points to send the seven seated Wildcats to the next round. A we submit court prayer bank then through the net and the buzzer went off in overtime to help the Wildcats avoided upset. Alan Graves thought he had won at the game one with his game winner with two seconds left. But we made sure the Wildcats advanced. So he hits that shot. They tied up late. So make it a 72, 72. Then the guy comes down, hit a three point shot, make it 7572 and then the bank shot make it 7575. They had the overtime and that's why where Kentucky took control of the ball game and they ended up winning this ball game. Joe, watching this game, I mean like I said and I think when you picking these brackets, Joe, you just can't go with the, the, the higher seeds because you, every time you, you, you won't even make it to the 6 tweet 16. And so you know at some point you got to start picking like. You know what? I think I could, I could see a potential upset here but give Kentucky a credit for them to find a way to get this game in overtime and then win it in overtime speaks volume to this team.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I thought the, I thought that Kentucky got lucky, bro. They got lucky. Hey, hey. I'm rooting for the SEC throughout the whole tournament but Santa Clara had them on their heels the whole game and they. Yeah, the entire game. And they was Able to rally back, but I like the guts that they play with. I like that. What's his name?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Oh yeah. His brother played for the Charge.

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, I like, I, I like the aggression that he came and played with, especially late. So Kentucky could be a scary team, you know, that first win. Uncle Ocho, you know, to get that dub, bro, it's hard. I don't care who you playing. Cause that's why I say these neutral sites, it don't matter. There's no home court advantage. For real. And you know it's gonna be some upsets. That's why they do the billion dollar bracket. Who, Man, Come on, please stop it.

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, Kentucky. They didn't, they got back in there. They gave themselves another chance.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Chance to fight another day.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Better to be lucky than good. Fellas.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hello. Hello.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, but I mean, when you see the gentleman play, he played 43 minutes, so he played all but two minutes in the game. It was 40 minute regulation and then five minute overtime. So he played 43 minutes, 35 points on 10 to 12 from the free throw line, three or eight. He also had eight rebounds, seven assists, a steal, a block. So he did a little bit of everything for this, for this ball club. Yeah. Aberdeen had 16, the Abate 17, Garrison 10. So they got contributions from everybody, Santa Claus. Look, I don't really know what Santa Clara can do. I mean, you hit, you know, you had to lead late. They tied up with a two and then you hit a, a three.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But if you notice, Sarah Clara, coach tried to call the timeout so he could set his defense.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They didn't give it to him. So it's going to be some controversy of that. I'm sure the, the staff and the players are upset about that. I'm sure fans of Santa Clara, they're upset about that. But you know, hey. Yeah. He didn't get it. He did not. He did not getting. He did not get, get the timeout call. And Kentucky hit the, the long three point shot and they went in overtime. And that's what you have to have sometimes. Like I said, it's better to be lucky than good because you have to find a way to survive in advance. That's the motto of March Madness. Survive in advance. And they definitely survived and they advanced. And so we'll see if they can continue this moving forward. But I. I thought Santa Clara played. Played as about as well as they can play their 10C players. Kentucky. Now, listen, not Kentucky of old. They have all these five star, and they had the. The Murrays and they got the Devin Bookers and they had, you know, the boogie Cousins and all these guys. They don't have that level of talent currently. And so you know how many this.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

This gonna hurt? It's gonna hurt.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hell, yeah, it hurts. Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You Santa Clara players. The. The. The summer gonna be long because you're gonna continue to.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, that. That was. That was luck, bro. That last shot.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, we in March, Ocho. This will happen when you. In March.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. One game. That's all it takes. That's why it don't matter what. It don't matter. It don't matter what your seating is.

[Chad Ochocinco]

This is why people love March Madness so much, because it doesn't matter where you rank. I can play you close, and then I do something crazy at the end of the ball game, make a shot like that, Right? Here's the thing. Now, that shot just got. That didn't win him the game. It just got him to overtime. They had to play well in overtime to win. So it wasn't like a shot that walked it off. They still had to play five more minutes. And so they still. You know, sometimes we've seen teams get into overtime, and that's the high point. And then for whatever reason, they fall flat in overtime. Give Kentucky, because even though they were on that considerable high, they still was able to carry it out. Santa Clara, I could imagine what that did to them. I mean, all the air probably went out of their sales because, you know, hey, hey, we just hit a three. It wasn't a two. So the only thing that. The only thing that happened, the best case scenario, they hit a three, we go to overtime. What's the likelihood? The odds had to be less than 1% of that happening because they got to go to length of the court.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, hey, if you. Kentucky. All you. All you. When he made that shot, I'm thinking, okay, we can't lose this game. We got new life.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, we get.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

We get another chance at overtime. And that's what. That's when they kind of just took over the game. But I thought Santa Clara was great, bro. They gave him great competition. I do think they should be advancing, but we in March, fellas.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

This how it goes.

[Joe Johnson]

You got one shot.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

One.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean, Kentucky had had 22 losses on the regular season, but hey, here we are. And like you said, guys, this March Madness, Santa Clara. That one. That one. Really.

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[Pharmaceutical Narrator]

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[Jennifer]

And the best part? They accept Discover.

[Pharmaceutical Narrator]

Except Discover in a little place like this?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't think so, Jennifer.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, huh?

[Jennifer]

Discover's accepted where I like to shop. Come on, baby, get with the times.

[Pharmaceutical Narrator]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So we shouldn't get the parachute pants.

[Jennifer]

These are making a comeback, I think.

[Pharmaceutical Narrator]

Discover is accepted at 99% of places that take credit cards nationwide. Based on the February 2025 Nielsen report.

[T-Mobile Customer]

We're lost. It feels like we're going round in circles. I'm gonna ask that man for directions. Hi there. We're trying to get to the state fairgrounds.

[T-Mobile Representative]

Well, you're going to take a left at the old oak tree at this here road. Nah, I'm just kidding. Let me get my phone out.

[T-Mobile Customer]

How is their signal out here?

[T-Mobile Representative]

T Mobile and US Cellular are coming together. So the network out here is huge. We get the same great signal as the city, saving a boatload with benefits. And there's a five year price guarantee too. Okay, here's the turn.

[T-Mobile Customer]

Actually, can you pull up the way to a T Mobile store?

[T-Mobile Advertiser]

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[Chad Ochocinco]

Hurt Miami Number 7, Miami, beat number 10, Missouri, 80, 66. After Missouri finally climbed around all game, Miami reeled off of 11 oh run down the stretch to put the Hurricanes firmly in control down the stretch. Senior Malik Renault struggled early, but used a couple of three pointers to find his groove. Scored 19 of his game high 24 points in the second half. Friday night felt like the de facto road game for Miami, but they were able to handle the environment in the pesky Tigers to pick the Hurricane's first NCAA tournament since 2023.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, Miami. Miami got it going, bro. I hate Missouri. Lost their SEC team, but I pick. I picked Miami to beat Missouri.

[Joe Johnson]

Same.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I picked Miami.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm surprised, Ocho, you ain't got Miami going to the national championship. Yeah, you pick everything else. Miami.

[Joe Johnson]

No, no, I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. You know.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You know, he. He ain't gonna pick no Hurricane over no Tiger. You know, nothing like that. You know, he be going off mascots, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, listen. Hey, hey, Joe, listen. When it comes to. When it comes to picking March Madness, you listen, your basketball knowledge and your basketball prowess, it don't really matter. It don't really matter. It's all about. It's all about understanding who gonna win what game.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And who gonna get lucky.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

That's it. That's why my bracket gonna be gonna finish first in front of both of y'. All.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Well, I'm killing y' all right now in the brain.

[Joe Johnson]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no,

[Chad Ochocinco]

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Joe Johnson]

Wait. Wait till you. Wait till you see your bracket and wait till you sign tonight.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I already looked at him.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay, well, you would know I'm in first right now.

[Disney Hulu Narrator]

Boy, please.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He in first.

[Joe Johnson]

I am in first. That's what. That's what you looking at, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco]

You in first, Ojo. Look, the problem that you guys got is that the teams that you guys pick, that y' all lost, y' all got them going winning, like picking sweet 16. So, yeah, yeah, I lost early, but I don't got them going any farther. Y' all got them guys going Sweet 16, Elite 8.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I got, I got, I got. I got. I got.

[Joe Johnson]

That's Joe. Huh? That's Joe. I got Joe picking all the big schools to go all the way to elite 18.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No, no, no, listen, I. I got. I got. I got a little room for, you know, a Little. A little mistake here and there. I'm good.

[Joe Johnson]

All right, all right, listen, I, I picked my mascots. My mascots ain't gonna let me down.

[Chad Ochocinco]

We're gonna find out. We gonna see here shortly west region, Miami. My look, Miami, you know, was it one year Miami went to the, went to the final four or the Elite Eight.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I think it was.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's when they had Jim Laraniga who ended up taking. I think he took George, took George Washington to the final Four. One year, I think it was George Washington, ucla, LSU and somebody else because I remember going. It was in India and I went to the, the final four matchup. Not the actual game I went to. Yeah, they semifinals.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. I think the past few years they've been pretty good. What's my man name who took over? His son. His dad played in the NBA. Lucas. John Lucas. His son is the head coach over there at the University of Miami.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Wait, hey, right, right now, Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, right now. He got them boys playing good ball. I think this is, if I ain't mistaken. Oh, this is first year. I think this is first year there.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

As head coach, I think.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, but look, they should be pretty battle tested. I mean, coming out of acc, they playing a very tough conference that. I mean, you obviously the selection committee, they always say that. Who's it, what. What conference did you play out of? Who did you play? Who was your non conference opponents? You know, they say all that. They say it matters. It don't matter if they want to get you in. It do matter if they don't want to get you. If they don't want to get you in. So I don't know what. Look, hopefully you're on a nice conference and then you. You able to play. I'm trying to see head coach.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. I mean, Miami only had eight losses this year. Playing in the acc. They playing in a pretty good conference.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You know, and Missouri in the sec. They ain't no bad, they ain't no slouch, you know what I mean?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, John Lucas, that's who they Jack. Yeah, he took over for Jim Laranega, so.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, he got, he got them boys playing football.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They're playing really good ball. Henderson 15, Trey Donaldson had 17, but they placed. They log some heavy minutes, but you know, in college you get that, Joe. Them guys be playing down the whole game. Them guys definitely be playing 37, 38 minutes.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, look, especially at this time, I mean they.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But you young, you know, Miami, you can bounce back.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. And Miami top Heavy with they starting five. You know, it ain't but a 40 minute game. I mean, you, I mean, your best players, bro, you hope they can suck it up and still be able to, you know, continue to play through a little fatigue. I mean, like I say, man, guys ain't playing no more than six, seven dudes, man, in, in the NCAA tournament.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, Uncle Joe, they ain't really got no depth like that, huh, off the bench, huh?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No. Well, they, they didn't play.

[Joe Johnson]

Come in and make a difference.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Not unless you're one of them top teams. And you got like, you got four or five, five stars and you got three or four. Four stars and a couple. Three stars. Yeah, you can run some depth like that, but for the most part, your best guy is going to have to show to the lion's share of the. The playing time, the whole game. Because you saw CNN, they played, they started five all 40 minutes. That was the first time they did somebody done that since DePaul did it. I think they said it's 79. So that just lets you know they ain't got no depth.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Right, Right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And then plus you look, you're number 16 team going up against the number one seed, overall seed. You got to throw caution to the win. I'm throwing every. All everything I can against the wall. Something gotta stick. Ain't really got no choice.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You can't. You. Hey, hey, when you Them smart, when you. When you play them number one seeds, man, you can't go in there, Timmy, you gotta go in there swinging.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

For real. I'm saying off the rip.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You gotta try to see the game close early.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. And you want to let them know. You want them to feel. You want them to know that you're there. Because once they sense a little fear, boy, next thing you know, you're gonna be down 15 points.

[Chad Ochocinco]

We saw that tonight with a PV. Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean, it was 15, 15. You look up again, it's 33. 15. You look over again, now they down 20. Now they down 30. I mean, 20. What? They wrote it down 39 and a half. And the next day, you know,

[Joe Johnson]

that wasn't even fair, Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, Little Dante we had on the show. That's why I tried to tell her. I told him, hey, man, Florida got some dogs.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey. Yeah, it's just too big. You. They go 6, 10, 6, 9, 6, 6, 11. I think the tallest guy that PV had was 6, 7. They just clean them. They just clean the box on the glass. I mean, just Rebound after rebound, and it's just.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They got. They got the. I think they got the number one. They got the number one rebound in the. In the ncaa. I can't remember his name, the big dude.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But they defense, he might be. He might be a lottery pick. The tall white kid, right?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, man, listen.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, hey, yeah, yeah. I know exactly what I'm talking about. Yes.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I don't think it's. It's no bigs in the country. Who can deal with them boys they got down there now if they. Gosh. Playing great, that's a bonus. Uncle Ocho. This is what you gonna get. They gonna beat you by 40, 50 points straight up, bro. Like they. They got the total package, man. They got some. Hey, well, I'll tell you, Florida's scared. I'm glad they way across town over there. And if we meet them, it's gonna be in the. In the championship game.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Get back.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Gonna be a. Y'.

[Chad Ochocinco]

All. They all are opposite sides. Yeah. Florida beat PV by almost sick. Beat him by 59. But I mean, we're not surprised by that. I mean that. That's. That's a. That's. That's a very good team. They were. They were rank. They rank very high in the regular season.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No, not 50, not 50, guy. Not. Not 50 for.

[Joe Johnson]

No, I mean, no, not. Not 50, Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

But yeah, yeah, we knew they probably.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, no, no, no, no, no. Not.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Not.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Not. Not. Not first rounders. Not like that. You see what prayer. You see what Purdue won by? They won by 33.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, but look who they playing on. That's not fair. That's not. You're playing Queen

[Chad Ochocinco]

1669. That's your front court and your tallest guy, 67. Man, they gonna kill you on the glass. I mean, and you can't. And you know, PV got hot early on from the three point line. And so, you know, they made it. They made bam, bam, bam, bam. But if you ever go cold. Cause you're not getting. You're not getting any second chances. And they're gonna get second chance, second chance, a third chance or fourth chance. And that's what happened. I mean, probably have to look at the rebounding. They probably got out rebounded by 30. I mean, you get out rebounded by 30, how many second chance points you think that's gonna reel easy? So, Joe,

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Hello.

[IBM Executive]

Hello. I'm Malcolm Gladwell, host of Smart Talks with IBM. I recently spoke with IBM's new director of research, Jake Mbetta. We discussed his vision for the future

[IBM Researcher]

of Quantum Computing at IBM Research what we always do is answer what is the future of computing? Whether it's coming up with new algorithms, coming up with better AI, coming up with quantum, or coming up with just how do different accelerators go together? It's our DNA to answer the question of what is the future?

[IBM Executive]

Isn't it a perfect problem for IBM because you kind of need to have a legacy of building stuff, building actual physical machines.

[IBM Researcher]

Yeah, it's why I came to IBM. I wanted the experience, the culture of building hard things that others have not done before.

[IBM Executive]

Where do you imagine we are in the timeline of this technology? There will come a point when it will mature, right?

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Yeah.

[IBM Executive]

My cell phone is a mature technology at this point. How far are we from that point?

[IBM Researcher]

With quantum by 2029 we'll build the first fault tolerant quantum computer that is one that can run a very, very large, large problem.

[IBM Executive]

To learn how IBM is building the future of computing, visit IBM.com Quantum

[Pharmaceutical Narrator]

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[Martha Stewart]

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[Pharmaceutical Narrator]

Oh, could this vintage store be any cuter? Right.

[Jennifer]

And the best part, they accept Discover.

[Pharmaceutical Narrator]

Except Discover in a little place like this?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't think so, Jennifer.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, huh?

[Jennifer]

Discover's accepted where I like to shop. Come on, baby, get with the times.

[Pharmaceutical Narrator]

Right?

[Chad Ochocinco]

So we shouldn't get the parachute pants.

[Jennifer]

These are making a comeback, I think.

[Pharmaceutical Narrator]

Discover is accepted at 99% of places that take credit cards nationwide. Based on the February 2025 Nielsen report.

[T-Mobile Customer]

We're lost. It feels like we're going round in circles. I'm gonna ask that man for directions. Hi there. We're trying to get to the state fairgrounds.

[T-Mobile Representative]

Well, you're going to take a left at the old oak tree at this here road. Nah, I'm just kidding. Let me get my phone out.

[T-Mobile Customer]

How is there signal out here?

[T-Mobile Representative]

T Mobile and US Cellular are coming together. So the network out here is huge. We get the same great signal as the city, saving a boatload with benefits. And there's a five year price guarantee too. Okay, here's the turn.

[T-Mobile Customer]

Actually, can you pull up the way to a T Mobile store?

[T-Mobile Advertiser]

America's best network just got bigger. Switch to T Mobile today and get built in benefits the other guys leave out. Plus our five year price guarantee. And now T Mobile is available at US Cellular stores in hermiston. Best mobile network based on analysis by Ookl of speed test intelligence data. Second half of 2025 bigger network. The combination of T Mobile's and US Cellular's network footprints will enhance the T mobile network's coverage price guarantee on talk text and data exclusions like taxes and fees apply. See t mobile.com for details.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You like the graphics team? Look at what the graphics the graphics had today.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, what they.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't. Hey. I don't know how many people part of the graphics team.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, they need.

[Joe Johnson]

They need a raise on. I don't know what they make. They need a raise, boy.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, people been hitting me about the graphics team, bro. How amazing they are. Oh, now y'. All.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They did give you a little sunroof, Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I know. They gave me a little Something. It's okay. They trying to hate. I ain't got no sunroof. I ain't.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, hey.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

My hairline ain't receiving, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, you want. You want to be Larry or you want. You want to be Larry?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, which one am I?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Larry.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Why?

[Joe Johnson]

I got. Why I gotta be Larry?

[Chad Ochocinco]

You just ask which one were you, then you talk about why you got to be him. Who. Okay, let me ask you a question. Who would you like to be the

[Joe Johnson]

one in the middle most?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay. Every time we do it, we go do mo. But you not now.

[Joe Johnson]

We can't repeat the same graphic. Hey, we had a graphic team, man. Y', all, they need a raise.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Everybody say you perfect for Larry Ocho. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Who me? I mean, you know, it ain't nothing but a character. That's all. When that camera rolling, you know, I turned it on now. Hey, Joe. You feeling good, Joe?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, I'm a honey, baby.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What's up? How many shows.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm a honey. What's up? Talk to me.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm just making sure you good.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I don't. Hey, I don't think I ain't been over here working on my jam. I'll be working on.

[Joe Johnson]

I see you. I see you. Hey, hey. With your hands all the way up there, you know, your stomach and your ribs.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Florida out rebuy the PV by 34. 54 to 20.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, man. Yeah. Hey, they got some dogs on there.

[Joe Johnson]

And you know, you know, the only. You know, the only way PV could have won tonight.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Joe make 33.

[Joe Johnson]

They would have had to be Bingo. And they would have had to be so efficient from the field until about super efficient where they couldn't even get the rebounds.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And they killed them. They killed them in the. In assists. I think they probably. I think Florida probably had like 26 assists. I only think PV had but like 6 assists, bro. You can't win no games like that with no six assists.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, Joe. They would had to literally get up like 53s and probably have to make half of them to give themselves a chance.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Because they're so out outgunned. Yukon beat Furman 82.71 tyres. Reed Jr was too much for Furman. The 611 center out re out rebounded the Paladins all by himself, hauling in 27 boards to go with 31 points in an absolute dominant performance for UConn. The three point shot wasn't falling for the Huskies five or 25. But Reed is just the third player in the last 50 years to have a 30, 20 rebounding game in an NCAA tournament game. The 30, 25 in the NCAA tournament game since 1960. Elvin Hayes did it in the Elite Eight in 1968. Elvin Hayes also did it in the first round of Loyola Chicago. Elvin Hayes did it again in the third and so did Jerry Lucas in the Elite Eight. Jerry Lucas did it again. He was on that team. He was on that team with Jerry west. If I'm not mistaken. Lucas. Now, Jerry west went to West Virginia. Bobby Knight might have been on that team.

[Joe Johnson]

Wait, Bobby Knight. Bobby Knight.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Look and see what I think. That was 1960. I think Ohio State might have won the championship.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, they must have told Reed to get everything come off the glass. That man had 27 rebounds.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Elvin Hayes, University of Houston. He's one of the. Oh, was it Havocheck? Yeah, yeah, I, I was like, hold on.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hondo Havlicek went to, went to Ohio State with, with Jerry Lucas and Bobby Knight was on that team. Jerry west went to West Virginia. But Elvin Hayes was a monster at University of Houston. He was that team that ended up beat. They beat Kareem when his prior, prior name. When he wasn't Kareem then. And then Kareem came back and just wiped, just wiped him out in the title game. But that's a phenomenal. I mean, in a college game. Yeah, in a college game, in a tournament game, I think Michael Beasley might have had a 30, 20 game. His first, his first game. Probably Shaq had one college, but I'm talking about this is the tournament. So congratulations. A hell of a performance tonight. 12 or 15 from the floor, Joe. 20, 30. He was 31 points in 35 minutes. 12 or 15 from the floor. He didn't shoot any threes. He was seven to nine from the free throw line. 27 rebounds, three, three assists. He had 11 offensive rebounds.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They had 18 offensive rebounds as a team. The Paladins had four officer rebounds of the team. So you're going to be only do able to do so much. You keep letting teams get cracks at you on the offensive end. Eventually they're going to get second chance points and they're going to start to pile up. The Paladins had, you know, two guys with dub with 20 plus points that another guy with 10. But and I give them credit, they hung around for a long time. This game was really, really close.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, they was fighting. They was fighting. Great game with 27 boys, man. They Must have told him. Hey, hey. Anything come off that glass, we want

[Chad Ochocinco]

you to go get it.

[Joe Johnson]

We got to have it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Because guess what? They pay guys. They pay guys to do that. They pay guys?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hell, yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Rebounds like. Or you can make you a lot of money doing that. 31 and 27,

[Chad Ochocinco]

but that's a lot

[Joe Johnson]

of boys with no offense to output, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Huh?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Huh?

[Joe Johnson]

With no offensive output. Oh, no, no, I'm just saying. Joe say they paying you. Just, you know, grabbing rebounds.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I mean, yeah, if you can rim roll.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Defense. Hartenstein. I mean, Hartenstein. He's a rebounding guy, offensive guy. He set great picks. I can teach you how to do that, Ocho. Some people just have a knack for the ball. Dennis Rodman. How you think Dennis Robin got into the league?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Dennis Robin probably averaged about six points a game, but he's crazy rebound champ.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So, yeah, you gotta want it. And like I said, I can teach you how to sit. Hey, hey, Screen. That's all you need to be able to do. Screen and rebound, man. Get you a little chain in your pocket.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That's it, bro. Yeah, get. You get.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You remember how you and I played? What? How we have a couple of guys on the team, all they could do is stop the run. AK get no pass rush. Just stop the run.

[Joe Johnson]

Right, right, right, right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

We had big fam and Goose, y'. All. Job, stop the run, keep the guys off. Ray.

[Joe Johnson]

Big. Big Sam, Adam. You know, Big Sam was over there with us, too.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Played with me in Baltimore for two years.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay, okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Seattle. When I was in Denver. Big Ted Washington. I played with Big Ted Washington, too. Big Key Trail, Big Te.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay. Ate him some big boys.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, my goodness.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey. Big Sam. Big Sam. And let you know he got the fastest step in the game.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Don't get him started. I'll beat you. I'll be. I'll beat you with a five. Yeah, if you're going to the dinner table, that's the only place you gonna beat me to him.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What's up?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey. Big Sam Adams had to be about, what, 353. What?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Easy 350. Well, we don't really know because him and Goose didn't really wait. So he wouldn't wait because Goose wouldn't wait. Sam wouldn't wait.

[Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

If Goose didn't practice, Sam wasn't gonna practice. So, you know, Rex Ryan was our D line coach at the time, so you got to realize that now. Marvin was the D.C. rex Ryan was the D coordinator. Jack Del Rio was the linebackers coach. We had Steve Smitty that winded up coaching Atlanta, Atlanta Falcons. He was on the. He's on the defensive staff also.

[Martha Stewart]

So

[Chad Ochocinco]

that defensive staff was crazy. Crazy. And you wasn't running the football. I thought. I know, I don't know a whole lot else, but I sure hope your game plan wasn't to have your guy rush for 100 yards, because it wasn't happening. I mean, they didn't come close. They didn't even give up in 16 games, they didn't even give up a thousand total rush yards.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hold on. They played on the line next to each other offensive line.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So we. They'll push it. Probably about. They're probably pushing about. I give them probably Goose. Might have been about 330, Sam. Probably about 345, 350. They damn 680. Damn near 700 between the two of them. Them.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Joe. They ain't moving nowhere.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, absolutely.

[Joe Johnson]

You ain't gonna mean finna move them nowhere.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It was just like when. Hold on. I think Big Ted and Trucker was in Cleveland, was in Chicago together. Because I, I played. I played with a Ted in 94. Ted was with me in Denver in 94. Trucker was with me 91, 92. Then he left. He was a linebacker. Ate himself into a nose tackle. Y' all laughing. He did, but hell, he wasn't making weight. That was the best thing to happen to him is that they just told him to go ahead and get down to the three point stance. Cause he wasn't making way to the line back. He. He ain't make weight not one time. Truck ain't make weight one time. Not ever.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, no. So they make out. They make out. They made y' all do.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Weighing body fat, not body fat. Just wait. Yeah, so we had to wait. We had to wait every. Every Friday. Every Friday was weigh in.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, you get fine. Every pound.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Every pound. It's 50 a pound for every pound you overweight. And then it doubles the next week and then tripled and so forth and so on.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, that's how Miami. That's how Miami Heat work.

[Joe Johnson]

Wait, hold on. You gotta have. You got to be a certain way for basketball, Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, man. You gotta weigh in every Friday. Okay? Ojo. And depending on your position, whether you're big or you a small, you got to have a certain amount of body fat, you know what I mean? So you got to weigh a certain amount. You got a certain amount of body fat on what they would like so, you know, if they want you at six and a half, 7%, because you a guard, then, boy, they got a program for you.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay, I understand.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Okay, so if you're a big guy and maybe they want you at 10%, 9%, they got a program for you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Look here, Dan Reeves, we weigh on on Friday and like holidays. Because like the holidays, like Thanksgiving. So they would. He was like. He was like, okay, he would give you grace. But you waiting that Thursday, he's like, you know what? We gonna have weigh in on Friday too. I ain't never have no problem with always. But, boy, you ought to see how many guys in that sauna. Ocho, you know what I'm talking about? How many guys in that sauna on Friday morning.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, trying to get that weight down.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, that's what I was saying. Hey, look, on Thursday, dudes be in the sauna, they don't even be eating. They be like, we got weight and body fat tomorrow.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I can't eat out there practicing. That plastic, they got them sauna jackets on. Joe out there practicing.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yep.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They in the sauna after practice. And then Friday morning they come there early, get on the bike and then get in the sauna again.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

There you go.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I do all that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That was a routine. Boy, that was a routine.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But hey, 50 a pound add up quick. You talk about 50 a pound. You three four pounds over. And it doubled the next week.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Cause it's only going to get harder as it gets colder. So if you overweight in September, October, what the hell you think will happen in November, December and January? Hey, they told me they got 10 listed at 375. He was about that.

[Joe Johnson]

God damn.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Ted is. But Ted. But see, here's the thing. Ted was like how tall Ted was. Ted was tall. And all he want to do with crack jokes. Crack jokes. But don't get it mad. Don't get it mad. You got hell on your head now. UCLA beat UCF 75, 71. The Knights put up a fight with a late surge, but the Bruins walked away with the win after finishing with 13 steals. 9 block to kickstart their transition offense. The Knights turned the ball over 17 times compared to 8 for the Bruins and went just 5 or 16 from the free throw line. Damn. Donovan did 10.5 and says 6 steals. Ran the show for UCLA daily title season high with 20 points. UCLA. Sky Clark lost a teeth. Lost a tooth in a fight for a loose ball. God damn, man. Like that looks like a real Jack Atlanta. Oh, yeah, they got every. They Got it where you can see the two falling out of. Yeah, yeah. Hey, as a matter of fact, I'm going to get me some. I'm going to get some. Some. Give me some porcelain, you know what I'm saying? Don't y' all get me? I want that Mondo. I want some porcelain.

[Joe Johnson]

What? Mondo.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I want that real stuff. I want the real good teeth. Oh, yeah, yeah, I got that. The porcelain. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I ain't gonna do it now. They won't do it now because he gotta. He's got to be able to see it.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Oh, man. Damn, man, they got the 2 fall.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That's a good game, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Falls out of his head, Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Man, I had seen that, bro. Like, oh, my God.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right there on his chair. Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

Got that like a hockey player now.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. He said, you know what? I don't just fix that one. Go ahead and fix the front F. Let's get. Let's get. Let's get the D line straight O. Yeah. Get it to be like, hey, ain't no sense of having one. One shiny white teeth, right? Excuse me. Yeah. Then the rest of like, damn, nah, you gotta paint this whole thing. Hey, you know, they gotta get it right. The whole fence.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They gotta get it right. They gotta get it right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, man. But, hey, you guys scrapping guys, that's what it takes to win a. Every loose ball. We saw LeBron do something we had never seen him do for a loose ball in order to get a win, right?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hello.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay, so you imagine what he. If you talk about a guy that's as accomplished as he is getting on the floor for a loose ball, I wouldn't be surprised. The coach says, hey, this is what it takes to win. Like, damn. That wouldn't take the win. As a matter of fact, if we can win the next round, I might lose another tooth.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, the boys out there fighting for their life, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hell, yeah. Hey, put it up on the. On your pillow, Coach. Drop him a little. Drop him a little thigh up on his pillow. Two fairies they did with the tooth fairy bought you. It was the good old days, man. Hey, Joe, you remember you pulled him. Oh, Joe, you pulled him. Teeth out. Put that thing up under there. You get a quarter, 50 cent? A dollar.

[Joe Johnson]

I got a dollar.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I got a dollar.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, man, you. You notice how when we look kids. Uncle Joe, like, one thing that your parents always tell you is they tell you not to lie. Yeah, but everything they told us was a lot. The tooth fairy was a lie. Santa Claus was A lie. I mean, every. Everything was a lie. I mean, then. Now y' all get on me because I be lying and capping. Well, hell, it started when I was a goddamn sorry.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And then. If you don't put your tongue in, it'll be a gold one will come. If. When you get your two pulled, if you don't put your tongue in it, a goal will come back there. Man, I try so hard not to let my tongue touch that empty spot. You probably. Damn it.

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on. Hey, I know you used to do this. Remember when they used to tell you if you flip your eyelids, you get stuck like that?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Flip them up.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You pick him up.

[Joe Johnson]

My grandma, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Stop.

[Joe Johnson]

Boy, if you don't stop flipping it before it gets stuck.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, y' all ain't never heard of the one where they say, if you don't go to sleep on Christmas Eve, like, he gonna come throw ashes in your eye.

[Joe Johnson]

For real?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I couldn't. It was hard for me to sleep on, you know, night before Christmas. Ocho, I can't. I couldn't wait to get up and open. I couldn't wait to get up. They opened my prison. So they'll come. Hey, if you don't go to sleep, well, you know you're gonna come put some ashes in your eyes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Had all kind of sin.

[Joe Johnson]

Every time I think about it, Joe, you know, man, we were so performative, man, I'm putting out milk and cookies. I'm happy. My grandma, my grandma, my mama. No, just put. Just put three chocolate chip cookies, put some milk out there. You know, Santa gonna come down and we drop the presents off. You know, he gonna enjoy some milk and cookies. So, yeah, now that I think about it as I get older, like. Like, y'.

[Chad Ochocinco]

All.

[Joe Johnson]

Y' all really played me.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah. Hey, hey.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Quiet is kept, though. I'm repeating the cycle. I ain't gonna lie to you.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, you're doing it. Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm repeating it, too, so I ain't gonna lie to you. Hey, French fry, French fries swear. French fries swear it's a Santa Claus, boy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Don't, don't, don't, don't. Don't tell her no different.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, I'm not. I'm not. I'm going to let her enjoy till she get old enough to understand.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They'd have put out a little bit more money. I might have pulled out all my teeth. I might have put out. Hey, that bit is like.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hold on. For one tooth, I got 32 of these things. Joe, I owed you. I Started adding up back in the early 70s. Hold on, man. That's 16. 1650. I got a dollar off. It was always make some real money.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah. It's always weird when you lose a tooth, though. That little space. Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You definitely didn't want to lose them thing on. On the front. The side wasn't that bad, but man, I don't know why. That front. The front.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I should have. I should have did. Like my uncle.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

My.

[Chad Ochocinco]

My uncle lost the tooth and my grandfather, papa put. Put a quarter up on his pillow. They had killed a hog like a week or so earlier. Through the head. Out of the woods, he went and got a pair of plows and pulled out every tooth in the hog's head and put him up on this pillar.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Man, stop it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He say, hey, oh, Jojo. He said, if I got a quarter for what? How much you think I get for 40? 50, right? Boy, my grandma said she went away, went to make up the bed and say she the sheet and say, man, them teeth hit the floor. She said, I shut down on his ass. Cause you know back then, hey, the more people didn't play, they didn't play the drum. They ain't played no kind of way with no kids. All that back talking. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know when this generation started about that back talking and being flip at the lip. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Talking about, I don't know what happened in North, I don't know what happened to Midwest, and I don't know what happened in. In.

[Joe Johnson]

In.

[Chad Ochocinco]

In. In. In. In the West. But I know in the south where I grew up, that was a no game.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Played it.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

Same. Same thing over here.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Nah, that was.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hold on. You talking. Hey, you talking about talking back, you better make sure your facial expression don't change. What right are you looking at? Wait, who?

[Chad Ochocinco]

You couldn't say lie. Wait, you better say. You telling the tal face. Oh, that's a lot. What you say? He telling the tale. He telling the tale.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, you couldn't say that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't know where these kids got that from, that talking back and that. Hey, that kissing your teeth, we call it. Yes.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yep.

[Joe Johnson]

Man, please.

[Chad Ochocinco]

All that.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, play around. Hey, play around if you want to Poppy, right? She'll pop, boy, if you don't stop.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Look, go back and I. I understand because that's how they. That's how they were raised. They were structured. You know, even as my grandma, my aunts and uncles, they were grown. It wasn't none of that, you know, whatever my grandfather said just to keep the peace because they know how he was. And you didn't ever want to get him to 10 because you got him to 10. Yeah, it's gonna take days, probably a week to get him down. So just. Hey, whatever. Whatever Barney said, just go. Just ride with it. He could be wrong. Just ride with it and keep it moving. But all that talking back the grands, like, none of that play. Play all that stuff. I don't know what he keep. Yo, Jojo, I don't know where the key get that from. I don't know.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, but they like. They like to play games now. They pay your camera record you. They. Hey, man, I don't want to be on no Tick Tock. Don't be tick Tocking me.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't play that. I don't play. Oh, they was gonna do what you call them. You remember the show MTV Punk? Yeah, yeah. Ashton Cushion had it punk me.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They finna try to get you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, Kayla said, don't do that. My daddy. Y' all know. Y' all don't know my daddy. My daddy hurt somebody.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, uncle, you would have snapped on

[Chad Ochocinco]

him because I don't play like that. I ain't never me got to tell you, anybody that's ever. I don't play like that.

[Joe Johnson]

No, I'm gonna make sure I get you there. I'm make sure I get you, see?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, well, you better make sure ain't no camera around, because you. Cause we gonna get canceled. Cause I'm a show. I'll just go ahead and. Go ahead and tell you, But. But I think that's the thing. Just like, that's a Southern thing. And like I said, I don't. I don't know. Like I said, I didn't grow up anywhere else but the South. And I know everybody that I was around, they parents and grandparents didn't play like that. They want all that joking and Kiki keying and all that running out in and out of the house and that loud talking. Papa was sleep boy, you bet. Oh, Lord have. Boy. It was a. It's funny, like. Cause, like, when me and Spanky get together, we talk. We talk about, like, how we grew up and. And listen to other people, how they grew up. I was like, y' all got to do that. Y' all could do that. You couldn't just go. You couldn't just go, Joe at my house and like, okay, I'm gonna go fix me something to eat. You had to ask. Yeah, you just couldn't go get it. If something's in the refrigerator, like real food, like if you want to make cereal, that's fine. But when it came to food, food like rice and beans and. And chicken or something like that, boy, you better not go in that refrigerator and go in granny pot.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, okay, Ocho. My auntie used to shut the kitchen down. You couldn't even go in the kitchen. And like after 9:30.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Bro, she was a military.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Military lady. She ain't played it military. Hey, at the nine. Not at the nine o'.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Clock.

[Joe Johnson]

No food.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Don't take your ass in my kitchen.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, but see, that's the thing where we like going to our dad's moms. Cause she. Because they didn't. Because we didn't get to see them that often. So, you know, the parent is just like anything. The parent that don't get to see you that often. What they do, Ocho, they overdo. Let's go get this. Let's go get that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. So papa would tell me a spanky they pick up, we come home from school. I'm gonna take you to your grand. He called William and Charlie. That was the name, but granted. William granted. And Grandma Charlie. Well, I'm. Y' all gonna spend the weekend and we. Hey, okay. You so. Because if you. If you pretended like you wanted to go, he might shut that down. Yeah, he might shut that all the way down, man. As soon as we hit the dope. Soon. Hey. Cause we gotta wait to see. Hey, don't be giving them all that sweet so forth and so on, boy. Hey.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Spanky, we look right that cold. As soon as that joker turned down, hit that left and getting up out of there. Grandma Charlie, we want to go to the store. Here, y' all bring me my. Bring me my purse. Boys, here's a dollar. I pushed that door, man. Push that door down to the. Y' all gone. And Saturday they wait till we get there and we going. We going grocery shopping. That's the only time you can put stuff in the buggy. Because Mary Porter wouldn't let you put ish in that buggy in Glenville. Nah, he would put nothing in granny Buggy. Grandma Charlie get what you want, boy. Man, I got Fruit Loops. I got Apple Jacks. I got giggle snacks. I got Honey Buns. I got chips. We get hot dogs.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, wait.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Uncle Joe, you know what it felt like back then, especially when he's a little kid and you get a dollar, maybe two dollars. And let's. Let's say you get Five. You get five dollars. Well, you know what that feel like as a little kid, boy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, you roll and then you got.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't know, Joe. I don't know if y' all had it. Joe, you had a candy lady house where you from?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, man, you get.

[Joe Johnson]

Man, you get about 2, $3 for doing your chores from your grandma, man. And you go to the candy lady house. Man, I get. Get some. Get some lemon head. Get some baked beans, man. Get some. Goddamn. I don't know if y' all eat pickle eggs. You eat pickle eggs, Joe, you talking

[Chad Ochocinco]

about lemon head like this? Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, well, how you got them, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know, I keep candle my death. I got a little candle with death.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe. I used to get the pickle eggs in the hot sauce in. Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Couldn't tell me nothing. Give him a little jungle juice.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Jungle juice? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that Tahitian treat, it.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, sometimes I go to the store, oo just to get the t. 25 gallon jungle drew. Yeah, I get all that. Yeah, but, you know, back then, candy was a penny. You get penny candy, so you get 50 piece of candy for 50 cent.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

How much. How much was chips back then? How much? How much?

[Chad Ochocinco]

20, 25. You know, like field day. You got those wise potato chips. Had a little owl on the bag. The little bag. So that was like 15 cents. Yeah, but lays with like, 20, you get laid for like, 25 cents. Coca Cola was 25 cent. Honey Bun was 25 cent.

[Joe Johnson]

So.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah, stuff was cheap back then. So a dollar went a long way. Boy, it was $5. 250 for me. 250 was making. Ain't saving nothing, boy. Don't spit it all in one place. Where you want to take me? Multiple places. Cause you taking me to one place, it's gone, right? Hey, hey, listen.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, what? Nothing like getting that honey bun, cranking that thing over, put it in the microwave.

[Joe Johnson]

Microwave. 11 seconds.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

10 seconds.

[Joe Johnson]

11.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Y' all had a microwave? Yeah, look, I'm saying.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Look, hey, hey, I'm talking about at the. At the cornerstone.

[Chad Ochocinco]

At the store.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Microwave.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And you.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And you warm that thing up.

[Joe Johnson]

Ain't nothing like. Hey, Joe, have you ever had the. The big Texas cinnamon rolls that come in the purple package?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Man, come on, stop playing.

[Joe Johnson]

And you put them in the mic and you put them in the microwave.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They ate them little Swiss pecan rolls.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, that truck Dr. Hey, that truck driver steak. That's what they call honey buns in the South. Truck driver state Cause you see the trucker, they hopped out of that truck, they go get it. Go get a honey bun, they'll get some chips, and they go get a Coke, hop back over there, hit that road. Or the vine. Or salt, you know, buying the salt. You remember they had the vinyl sausages, and then they came with the big can. Cause the small can have about seven in there. The big can have about 14. Yeah, now you, Big Willie, they get the 14 can. You get that big, big can. I don't know if they still make the big cans like that, but. And them sardines, you eat sardines, Joe?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I still eat them to this day.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Sardines. And then they came out with the sardines with the mustard in there.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I ain't never had that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You eat sardines, ojo?

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, I never had that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, them good Omega threes for you, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They fatty now.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They fatty.

[Joe Johnson]

What that means?

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's the fatty fish. That's the fattest. Fattest fish you could eat is sardines. Okay, but they good. They small. They small fish. They bigger than ant. They small. They. I ain't had sardines. I mean, I don't think I had sardines since. Since I left Glenville.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Eating with. Eating with some crackers, a little white saltine cracker. Yeah, I already know, boy. Hey, that's a go to right now while y' all playing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Now, I had no sardines. I had no vinyl sausages. I had none of that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I ain't had no buying the size, but I had some sardines, see?

[Chad Ochocinco]

See, Ocho? So you don't got outside yourself. You don't eat like that no more.

[Joe Johnson]

No, no, no. Every. Everything else I name, I still eat. But, hey, if I'm at grandma house and I hear that ice cream truck coming around the corner, well, I'm shooting outside, boy. I can still get my pickle egg. I can still get my legs and my hot sauces off the ice cream truck.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, boy, you were running the ice cream truck down, ain't you?

[Joe Johnson]

Man down.

[Chad Ochocinco]

We had a guy who's come by and sell fruit. Fruit named Mr. Lester Dimson, I never forget. He said he had bananas, he had apples, oranges, pears. Man, he drove. And he drove the school bus. Cause we robust school bus 31. He drove bus 32. Man. Mister, let's come out there to. Oh, man. Didn't realize how broke you were because everybody else was broke just like you.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

There you go, there you go. There you go. Real talk yeah, you had.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You had like, damn. And I look back, now they talking about all the poverty. Yeah, yeah. We way below poverty. We way below. I don't know what poverty was, but we was below that. So whatever. Okay, this poverty right here. So what's this right here? We below that. People know that. But with everybody eating, what you eating, doing the same thing you're doing, you don't think about it. It wasn't like nobody had getting new cars. I had all this others, this lavish stuff. Ain't nobody had nothing like that. Made you appreciate everything that you got.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

There you go.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That you got.

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When Kohler, global design leader in luxurious kitchen and bath products, asked me to be their ambassador for timeless, elegant, durable cast iron, I said, I'm in. Soon after, I was in their Kohler, Wisconsin foundry watching molten iron poured, enamel applied by hand, and the beautiful finished pieces ready to ship. Since 1883, Kohler cast iron has been crafted by incredible artisans, and seeing it firsthand gave me a whole new appreciation for their craftsmanship. Now I'm proud to lend my stamp of approval to my favorite Kohler Cast Iron products for their durability, beauty and enduring style. Shop my curated [e-mail] as the Kohler Cast Iron Ambassador, I say, long live cast iron.