Nightcap Hour 1: Michigan THRASH Arizona + UCONN BACK in NATIONAL TITLE Game + The Big 3 SOUND OFF on Geno Auriemma

Summary

Nightcap Hour 1: Michigan Thrashes Arizona + UConn Back in National Title Game + The Big 3 Sound Off on Geno Auriemma

Hosts: Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson
Guest: Joe "Iso Joe" Johnson
Airdate: April 5, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of Nightcap delivers immediate, unfiltered reactions to the NCAA men's basketball Final Four, focusing on Michigan’s dominant win over Arizona and UConn’s return to the National Title game. Shannon Sharpe (Unc), Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson, and Joe Johnson (“the Big 3”) break down the games play-by-play, assess standout performances, reflect on college coaching legacies, and riff on generational shifts in discipline and respect in sports and society.

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Key Topics & Insights

Michigan’s Dominant Performance Against Arizona

Timestamps: 05:04 – 16:48

• Michigan's Statement Win: The Wolverines beat Arizona 91–73, becoming the first team in NCAA tournament history to score 90+ points in five straight tourney games.

  • “Michigan took good control of this ball game and they never really look back…that 18 points, it really wasn’t that close.” — Shannon, (06:03)
  • “They got some big boys. Michigan got that seven-three boy. Big Mara down there.” — Joe Johnson, (08:08)
  • Adimara's role: “He had 26 and nine tonight. He was controlling the glass, the paint, catching lobs…” — Joe Johnson, (08:16)

• Team Depth & Resilience: Despite their star, Yaxel Lindenberg, playing only 14 minutes due to foul trouble and injury, Michigan put five players in double figures and maintained a lopsided lead throughout.

  • “Good thing they didn’t need him tonight. They put five guys in double figures and they win going away.” — Shannon, (06:49)
  • “They believe…They say they the best team ever in Michigan. They showed it tonight.” — Joe, (07:49)

• Trey McKinney’s Sharpshooting: Crucial second-half threes kept Arizona from mounting a comeback.

  • “He was sensational…six of nine from the field, four of six from the three-point line. Seemingly every time Arizona would try to mount something, [Michigan] would hit them.” — Shannon, (08:43)

• Arizona’s Offensive Woes: Key contributors shot inefficiently against Michigan’s tough defense (Cole Pete: 6-18 FG; Burrs: 4-16 FG).

  • “It’s hard to win, dog, when you shooting inefficiency like that against a team like Michigan, who grinds defensively.” — Co-host, (12:11)

• Historical Perspective: The trio compares this Michigan team to the 1989 championship squad and the iconic Fab Five, discussing legacy and the hypothetical impact of NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) deals had they existed then.

  • “They say they feel like they the best team in Michigan ever. So they, one game away, they one game away.” — Co-host, (14:12)
  • “Think about how we look at the Fab Five…Just imagine had they won a championship, how people would look at the Fab Five.” — Shannon, (15:15)

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UConn Back in the National Title Game

Timestamps: 16:48 – 26:46

• Controlling Illinois: UConn handled the nation’s best offense, holding Illinois to 34% shooting and committing zero first-half turnovers.

  • “UConn held the best offense in the country to a 34.4 clip…connected on a barrage of 3s…didn’t commit a turnover in the first half, a record under Bobby Hurley.” — Chad, (21:26)

• Big Time Shotmaking: Braylon Mullins (freshman) and Tars Reed combined for critical scoring surges.

  • “When they needed to get a bucket, man, you see, Hurley got no problem dialing up a play and the kid hit a three.” — Chad, (21:56)
  • “He did the same thing last game…miss after miss, but when they needed it most, he showed up.” — Joe, (22:07)

• Hurley’s Coaching Legacy: Dan Hurley could achieve a third championship in four years, a feat matched only by legendary John Wooden.

  • “For him to win three [titles] in four years…you’re looking at something only Wooden has done.” — Shannon, (22:37)
  • “When you got somebody like Hurley at the helm…I think he drives belief in his players. They take after him, his fieriness.” — Co-host, (23:17)

• Program Consistency: The guys discuss UConn’s enduring success across multiple coaches and generations.

  • “I don’t know if we’ve seen a program…Coach Calhoun won three, Kevin Ollie won one. That’s four…If this guy [Hurley wins], he’ll have seven. That’ll put him in front of Duke, in front of North Carolina.” — Shannon, (24:15)

• Alumni Support: Both Michigan and UConn alumni show up at games, fueling current players’ motivation.

  • “I think it gives the players an extra edge…It’s probably gonna make you work a little harder…We don’t want to have no let down now.” — Co-host, (25:53)

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Coaching Styles: College vs. Pros, Old School vs. New Generation

Timestamps: 26:46 – 43:50+

• Hurley and the Lakers Rumors: The crew discusses the pitfalls and lack of job security in high-profile NBA coaching gigs versus the college game, referencing rumors of Dan Hurley being approached for the Lakers job.

  • “Ain’t no security in that…The pressure that comes with coaching the Lakers…as soon as things don’t go right, I’m out.” — Joe, (28:43)
  • “[In college] as a coach, you got a little more control. Oh, you got a lot of control. Yeah, you got all the control, to be honest.” — Chad, (29:28)

• Managing Egos: The difference between coaching developing college athletes and established NBA superstars.

  • “It takes a certain coach to gain respect from players that are already millionaires.” — Joe, (30:42)
  • “At the college game, you can tell the guys…But [in the NBA]…‘Give me that ball. I’m playing 40 minutes. I’m gonna get my points.’” — Shannon, (31:33)
  • Phil Jackson praised as a master ego manager.

• Adjusting to Player Personality: The importance of reading and coaching to individual temperaments.

  • “You got to know how to coach certain people a different way. You can coach some people hard…But some people, you can’t be like that.” — Joe, (33:23)
  • “Everybody don’t respond the same way.” — Co-host, (33:50)

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Old School Discipline vs. Modern Athlete Culture

Timestamps: 39:08 – 61:21

• Coaching Memories: The trio tells stories from their own upbringings and athletic careers, reflecting on demanding, hands-on coaching styles and parental discipline.

  • “Coach me hard, man. Cuss me…I’m all for it.” — Joe, (40:57)
  • “I don’t know if you can coach young kids like…like what we got. Oh, no, no, no…Parent’s be at the school, be at the field cutting the fool.” — Shannon & Joe, (41:06–41:17)

• Societal Differences: Contrasts between how they were raised vs. current athlete-parent dynamics.

  • “I think the upbringing that we had, meaning the tough coaching…by the time I make it to the pros, the coach get on me, that shit going one ear out the other.” — Co-host, (43:09)
  • “Today’s society…the way kids are being raised. They’re being coddled…It’s almost handicapping the kids, because once they get in the real world, they got no coping skills.” — Joe & Shannon, (43:15–43:31)

• Community Upbringing: Remniscing about ‘the village’ effect, where any adult could (and would) discipline you, compared to today’s lack of boundaries.

  • “It was a community back then…If you’re doing something wrong, they’ll say, ‘Ain’t you Barney’s grandson?’…you want me to tell them?” — Chad, (48:44–49:05)

• Respect for Elders: Emphasis on deep-rooted respect for parents and teachers; disbelief at today’s lack of discipline and boundaries in schools.

  • “I had too much respect for my grandmother. Ever raised my hand…Even teachers at school.” — Chad, (48:25)

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Closing: Friendly Wager & Looking Ahead to the Title Game

Timestamps: 63:26 – 68:13

• Picks for the Title Game: Ocho takes Michigan (despite Lindenberg’s health concerns), the others lean UConn, but all acknowledge it’s a close call.

  • “If Lindenberg wasn’t hurt, I think I would take Michigan, but I might gotta go UConn, man. I don’t know if they can beat UConn without him.” — Chad, (64:06)
  • “Let’s make a little small wager…$500 a piece.” — Joe, (64:27)

• Wager Banter: Classic “Nightcap” trash talk as the trio debates whether to trust Ocho to pay up, with playful threats of “ass whoopings” and discussions about emergency funds.

  • “I’m going to pay y’all right on the spot on the show Monday night.” — Joe, (65:40)
  • “But you janky, so I ain’t sure about in with you already.” — Chad, (68:13)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Michigan, the first team in NCAA tournament history to score 90 plus in five straight games in a single tournament. They’ve been outstanding.” — Shannon, (06:56)
• “If you go play at UConn, you’re going to be coached hard. If you can’t deal with tough old school coaching…don’t you take your ass to UConn.” — Chad, (25:05)
• “It takes a certain coach to gain the kind of respect for players that’s already millionaires…depending on the face that’s the head coach.” — Joe, (30:42)
• “Today’s society…kids are being coddled…It’s almost handicapping the kids, because once they get in the real world, they got no coping skills.” — Joe & Shannon, (43:15–43:31)

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Key Segments & Timestamps

| Segment | Timestamp | Description | | ------- | --------- | ----------- | | Michigan Dominates Arizona | 05:04–16:48 | Game analysis, Michigan’s historic run, Arizona’s struggles | | UConn Advances | 16:48–26:46 | UConn’s win over Illinois, Hurley’s coaching, title prospects | | Coaching Styles | 26:46–39:08 | College vs. NBA, managing egos, adjusting coaching for individuals | | Old School Discipline | 39:08–61:21 | Discipline, generational changes, community, personal stories | | Title Game Preview & Wager | 63:26–68:13 | Picks, trash talk, friendly bets, and anticipation for Monday’s championship |

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Tone & Style

• Unfiltered, conversational, irreverent, and loaded with personal anecdotes.
• The hosts riff off one another, breaking down games, comparing eras, and mixing hot takes with humor and classic sports banter.

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Summary

This episode presents a raw and colorful breakdown of the Final Four, spotlighting Michigan’s historic dominance and UConn’s dynastic potential under Dan Hurley. The Nightcap crew leans on personal experience to illuminate the evolving nature of sports—from athletic and coaching greatness to the shifting values and cultures that shape today’s players and programs. The episode concludes with playful rivalry and a cash wager for the much-anticipated National Title Game.

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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[Co-host/Analyst]

They pressure anan oo the. That they caused earlier in the game. Getting off to a great start. L. Lindenberg. Is that how you say his name? Lindenberg? He. He wasn't a. He. He didn't do a. He didn't have to do a whole lot tonight, but he. He played some meaningful minutes, you know what I mean? They believe. They say they the best team ever in Michigan. They showed it tonight because there's no way I thought Arizona would go out like this. Man, the shellacking they put on my Razorbacks, I can't believe that. I'm like, who is this?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Why'd y' all play like this the other night?

[Co-host/Analyst]

Oh, man, what's going on? But let me tell you something. Michigan got some big boys. Michigan got that seven three boy. Big Mara down there.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Co-host/Analyst]

He had 26 and nine tonight. He was. He was controlling the glass, the paint, catching lives, like, mixing. Got a lot.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They.

[Co-host/Analyst]

They got a lot of guys.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They, they.

[Co-host/Analyst]

That they can hit you with in ways. They got great guard play. I know the Elliott kid didn't play great tonight. He was five the most part. You know, they. Together, they play great defense, Uncle Ocho. They play great defense and they believe in one another, man. So I'm gonna be honest with y', all, man. I think I got Michigan winning this thing.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. You look at Trey McKinney before you go, Ocho, he was sensational with a three point line. Six and nine from the field, four of six from the three point line. And like I said, it was the second half because seemingly every time Arizona would try to mount something, they would hit them. They'd hit them. 3, 2, 3, 2. And next thing you know, they try to cut it down and. And the lead is pushed back above 20. And so give Michigan credit. They found a way. And like you said, Lindenberg, he didn't play tonight. He only played 14 minutes, right? But in those 14 minutes, he kind of got in foul trouble early. I was like, okay, Arizona, this is your opportunity. He's in foul trouble. Their best players in foul trouble. You need to seize this opportunity. They couldn't take advantage of it. And Michigan, you know, was able to stay ahead even with their best player on the bench. And then they just pulled away in the second half. Oo, yeah. Michigan do a number on Arizona.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they did. Listen, offense, great defense. Joe, like you said, pressure. Lindenberg getting himself in foul trouble, but it didn't matter. Adimara down there in the paint, he owned everything on the offensive end and. And on on the, and on the defense end had the glass. They really d. They really dominate the whole goddamn game off the bench. That goddamn McKenna. Boy. Boy. Young Bull. Young bull was stroking that

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

go. He was.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, he would. He would let it go. I'm sorry I'm using the wrong words, but it was a good game. It was a good game. And I just wanna, I also want to mention, matter of fact, you know, I know we haven't put those brackets up right now.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They don't need to.

[Co-host/Analyst]

It's over.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's over.

[Joe Johnson]

I know. So I just, I just want y' all to be honest with the people and the people that's watching. Who won?

[Co-host/Analyst]

There's no winner. No winner.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ain't no winner.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Ain't no winner.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ain't no winner. Oo.

[Joe Johnson]

Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that.

[Co-host/Analyst]

There is no winner.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, still. I still have a team. I still have a team. In, in, in, in.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What? What team you got?

[Joe Johnson]

Come on. I know ass know now. Come on now. We, we, we gotta win them.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You had Duke in Arizona. I did. You did.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay, well, listen, I'm still, I'm, I still beat both of y'. All. I know that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, well, damn. Nobody wanted objective would try to win the thing. Yo, you talking about you could so all these people that filled out bracket, you just try to beat me and

[Joe Johnson]

Johan, that's all that matter. That's the only thing that matter.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, matter of fact, hold on.

[Co-host/Analyst]

What this man got now, he done got.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He done got him a crowd or something, Joe. And still. Hey, man, you gotta chill, bro. Look at what we talking about.

[Joe Johnson]

And still, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, I'm not worried about.

[Joe Johnson]

Listen, I'm not worried about nobody else bracket.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm not worried about nobody else bracket except y'.

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All.

[Joe Johnson]

I beat y' all too. That's all that matter. Now, Arizona. Arizona might not have made it, right, but my bracket went the.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What you mean might not? They didn't.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, calm down. I don't like your tone. I don't like your tone. Let's take the decibels down a little bit.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, I.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I appreciate y' all playing, but as far as I'm concerned, I mean, the King Ocho is here, man.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Chill, bro. You, you don't get no, you don't get no crown for that, Ocho. You didn't win.

[Joe Johnson]

I, I, I beat y' all too. That's all that matter.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Did you gotta win, though?

[Joe Johnson]

No, I Be I beat y' all too.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That.

[Joe Johnson]

That's all that matter.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Look, check this out, check this out. Back to the Michigan and Arizona.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

When you look at, when you look

[Co-host/Analyst]

at Mar, Lindenberg and Elliott.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Analyst]

You know, those are upperclassmen, Uncle Ocho, juniors and seniors. When you look at Arizona, key guys, Cole Pete, Burrs, you know, burrs, 4 for 16, 13 points. It's gonna be hard to win like that. Cause you counting on your big dogs, your young guns to come through and play great. Cole Pete, 6 for 18. He had 11 rebounds, 16 points. But it's just, it's hard to win, dog, when you shooting inefficiency like that against a team like Michigan, who's. Who grinds defensively, they fuel their offense, is fueled off their defense. And they just look comfortable out there from the start, man, it's like Michigan, they kind of know they the best team that's left in this tournament, Uncle Ocho. And they playing like it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They did. They did. I mean, I expected, I thought the game would be much closer like you said, Joe, considering what we had seen from Arizona all year, especially in the tournament, they had looked really, really good. And Michigan, they had been playing really well also. But I expected the game to be a lot closer than what it was, man. This game really wasn't close.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Nah, they cut it. The single. They cut it to single digits, but it was like. They cut it like eight or nine. But then Michigan took right back off.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. And that was. They, it was like they could never, they could never, they could never breathe. They could never decompress because they were always climbing uphill. They never leveled off. And so every time that you're like, okay, we about to make a run, and the next thing you know, Michigan would hit two threes back to back and get a layup. And so was a single digit game. Now it's pushed back up to 12, 14. Yeah, and, and, and, and then, and once they got it to 12 and 14 after that second, that, that second run went about 15 minutes to go in the second, it was over. It went from like 15. And the next day, you know, you look up, it's 30, I'm like, damn.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah, Michigan tough. Like, damn, Michigan tough. They brought the fab five out. They had a telecast, so they was kind of commentating on.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I thought that was okay. Yeah, I like it.

[Co-host/Analyst]

So. Hey, man, them dudes backing it up. Uncle Ocho.

[Joe Johnson]

Michigan. Yeah.

[Co-host/Analyst]

And they words up, bro. They say they feel like they the best team in Michigan ever. So they, one game away, they One game away.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, they. It's gonna be very interesting to see because like I said that, that, that original team that wanted in 89, they were like, they were like, they were like that.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, you know, Glenn Rice. I mean, Glenn Rice averaged 30. Hell, I'm not so sure. I mean, Terry Mills, I think Terry Mills was the first round draft pick. Lloyd Bott, Sean Higgins, Ramil Robinson, that's all those guys, you know, playing. It played in the NBA.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Obviously Glenn Rice is the most well known. Right. Because he won a championship with Kobe. And I think Rice was an all star, if I'm not mistaken. I think he made the all star game.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. When he was with Miami.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Miami Charlotte.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So they got. They have another game to prove, and this is why you play the game. And Jay and J. Rose said, you know, I ain't got no problem with that. We weren't able to get it done. We did go to back to back. It just so happens we ran into that juggernaut and, you know, we ran into Duke. Ain't no harm in losing the Duke because you look at the guy, they had Latent, they had Grant Heel, Bobby Hurley. Ain't no harm in losing that. They were so close against Carolina and C. Web called that time out. It had been very interesting had that not happened, what would have happened in that ball game if it goes to overtime or whatever happens. But we'll never know with that. But Michigan does have an opportunity to. This, this team here, these players here, Luxembourg Johnson Jr and all these guys, they have an opportunity to leave a legacy, to be one of the teams that won a national championship. And there hadn't been very many basketball, you know, teams in Michigan that won a championship. So they definitely have something. You know, they can come back 10, 15, 20 years from now, because think about how we look at the Fab Five and they didn't want a championship. Just imagine had they won a championship, how people would look at the foul five.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Oh. Because they were the culture. They were the culture back then.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes.

[Co-host/Analyst]

The hot sock, black socks, baggy.

[Joe Johnson]

The baggy shorts.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah, man, they were hard, bro. That, hey, that was a tough team.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Better like they had a Jayla Rose pad like he had on knickers, man.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Hey, can you imagine what Nil would have been like with them dudes?

[Joe Johnson]

That would have been nice. It would have been. It would have been nice.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Hey, them boys some back pay or something?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You, you mean, you mean legal Nil? There are a couple of things going on, but we ain't gonna talk about that. But I mean, we. We know what you mean though, Joe.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Legal nil. The first game. UConn Thompson, Illinois to advance to his third title game in four years. This is a case to be made that Tars Reed, 17 points, 11 rebounds today had been the best player in the tournament. Solo Ball has also recorded double digits in scoring in three consecutive games. Braylon Mullen, 15 points, 2ST hey, Donald,

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

47 from 3 UConn held his best. Held the best offense in the country to a 34:4 clip from the field and they connected on a barrage of 3:12, the most in Final Four game from the pro for the program. The Huskies didn't commit a turnover in the first half, a record under Bobby Hurley. Man, when you look at the way they play. I don't know what it is about this kid. And I think Mullins is a freshman. And the first half he and Reed got off to this great start and then they were cold. But when they needed to get a bucket, man, you see, hey, Hurley got no problem dialing up a play and the kid hit a three.

[Joe Johnson]

And when it matters most, Unki did the same. He did the same thing last game. Yeah, he was shooting three after three and was missing and missing and miss after miss. But when they needed it most, he showed up in the last game and was able to get them that win. Same thing tonight. Now I'm not sure, I'm not sure if they'll be able to get away with it. Playing a team like Michigan, that, that's much better. That can get you behind the eight ball, you know, down, down double digits real quick.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You know what, when I look at this Joe, I don't know what people think. I mean, but for him to win three championships in four years, you're looking at something only Wooden has done, man.

[Co-host/Analyst]

What?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Not, not, not, not. You know, you look at Coach K, you look at Coach Smith and you look at Coach Knight and you look at Roy Williams and you look at some of these guys. Only Wooden here, he has an opportunity to win three championships.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

In a, in a four year span. Now, I don't know. Look, I don't want to, I don't want to get too far ahead of myself, but boy, he's being, I mean, you think about when you could say I wanted only one other coach would have, can say they've done this and that's Coach Wooden.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Who won 10 and I think he won like seven, eight in a row, bro.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Damn. Hey, when you got somebody like Hurley at the helm, Uncle Ocho. Yeah. I think he, he, he, he, he drives belief in his players. I think they take after him as, as far as his attitude, his fieriness, how they compete. Like Illinois is a pretty good team and they probably the highest scoring team in NCAA this year. And for them to get held to 62 points, I thought, I didn't think it was a pretty game, but I thought Connecticut controlled the game, the entire game, you know what I mean? Pretty much from start to finish. They got off to a pretty good start. Like you say, Mullins got off to a great start. Made a couple threes early. Now you find a rhythm and it's like playing catch up. This game, this one, no, nine point game. This game was a lot worse than that. You know what I mean? They only lost by now, but I thought Illinois was really. They made a little, they made a little comeback toward the end, but for the most part, man, Connecticut controlled this whole game, bro. They controlled the whole game.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I mean, Connecticut's tough. I mean, you look at, and I don't know if we've seen a program, because you look at a program, you look at what Coach Calhoun did, and we know the level of talent that he brought in there, from the real Hamiltons to all those guys that he brought in there. Yeah, the Ray Allen's, Rip Hamilton, Villa Nueva, Okafor and all those guys. And yeah, Kimba, you know, Cardiac Kimba. Yeah, a lot of these guys. And then Kevin Ollie did it with a different set of guys and here come Dan Hurley and, and, and, and, and you look at this. I mean, Coach Calhoun won three, Kevin Ollie won one. That's four right there. If this guy, he'll have seven. That'll put him in front of Duke. That'll put him in front of North Carolina. That'll be trailing. Only North. That'll be trailing. If I'm not mistaken, that might put him in front of Coach Kentucky. I forgot Coach Rob, because Coach Rob had, back in the 40s and 50s.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Coach Rob had, had a stick down there at a University of Kentucky. But for, for what he's doing. And you understand if you go play at UConn, you're going to be coached hard.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

If you cannot deal, tough coaching, tough old school coaching. A guy that's going to get in your face. Don't you take your ass to UConn and tell my man, the man yelling and screaming, that's what he is. That's who he is. That's how he coach. And the, the proof is in the pudding.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's hard to argue with those results. I mean, three back to back and then three in four years.

[Co-host/Analyst]

That's impressive, man. And, and the games ain't been pretty, man. They ain't, they ain't really had. I mean, you look at the buzzer beater shot that they made just to make it to the Final Four.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Then, you know, it's like, you gotta have a little luck in this. This too, fellas. You know what I mean? And I think, like I said, Dan Hurley, he has those dudes playing the right way, playing hard, competing at the highest level. And they got each other's back, bro. It's a fun team to watch. I love to see how the alumni come together for the UConn guys, the, you know, all those guys, you know, we're at the game supporting. That's dope. I think it gives, you know, the players are extra edge when they out playing. It's just like the Michigan Cats. They see C. Webb and Jalen Rose now, you know, it's gonna make you. It's probably gonna make you work a little harder. You, like, hold on. These dudes at the game. We don't want to have no let down now. Same thing with Connecticut. You got Ray Allen and all the guys there, Rip Hamilton. I just think it's a dope. I think it's a dope environment. I'm glad to see these guys moving along. And I think Connecticut and Michigan. It's going to be a hell of a game on Monday night, fellas.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Always great. Ocho, you know, being in the league and you see those former great. You see Munoz and a lot of these old guys come back, the alumni.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yo, when you was at Arkansas and some of those old guys. Be it Corliss Williamson. Yeah, yeah. Sydney Moncrief. A lot of these old guys, they come back. You. You like, damn.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Y' all came back to see us, and I can't let y' all guys down. I gotta win this one, right? Yeah, right. You know, it's kind of like when homecoming, when everybody comes back, you want to play your best ball because everybody's coming back. And you know why they came back, right? Yeah, I love that also. I love that you look at Duke and how those guys go back in the summer and they play, and all those guys that's going to Duke, they like, damn, I damn sure want to be. I want. I want to be a part of that. Or Alabama, you know, and the way a lot of these. A lot of these teams that produce a lot of NFL or NBA players, they go back.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

When they go back and let's like, okay. They really close. This is really a brotherhood.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah. Yeah, you're right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

There's no jealousy or guys just competing, playing at a hard level. They can pass along what it's like to play, what it's like to be in this situation. Guys started this 40 plus years ago. Your job is to continue it. Just like our job was to continue. We passed it on to. You got to continue this.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Absolutely.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Look, like you said, Joe, it wasn't. I mean, it wasn't like UConn shot the COVID off the ball. Both teams. One team shot 35, the other team shot 34. Yeah. One team shot 23 from the three. The other team shot 36 from the three.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

The difference is, is that you can't. And Yukon makes you play like this.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They get up into you.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They picking you up. They're pressing the ball. Hey, those guards, they pressure back court. They do a great job of rebounding. They do a great job of boxing out.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I can't say enough about Coach Early. You know, I thought he'd have been a great fit for the Lakers, but he's like, nah, that ain't. I'm a. I'm a Jersey kid. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey. Yeah. Another thing about Mr. Hurley not really taking that Lakers job, you know, ain't really no security in that, you know, especially when it comes to coaching the Lakers. The pressure that comes with coaching the Lakers.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You ain't coaching the Lakers like you coach UConn. You ain't gonna be yelling at Luca and LeBron. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

It's kind of different. Hey, hey. But Joe. Hey, hey, Joe. Is no sense of security in taking a job like that, even even though it's a good job to have. It's a prestigious job to have, obviously, coaching a historic franchise like the Lakers. But I understand why Mr. Hurley turned that down, even with the money they was offering him. Yeah, I ain't gonna be. I ain't gonna be there too long. Yeah, I'm not gonna be there too long. Cause soon as things don't go right, I'm out the goddamn dope.

[Co-host/Analyst]

You gonna be the scapegoat.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And I think.

[Co-host/Analyst]

I think Uncle Ocho, in college, you know, as a coach, you got a little more control.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, you got a lot of control. Yeah, you got all the control, to be honest.

[Co-host/Analyst]

You get guys that are very hungry to work and obviously make it to the next level, so they're gonna do pretty much whatever you ask.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[Co-host/Analyst]

As opposed to. Hell, you get to the Lakers.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's people, man, I make 300 million. How you telling me what to do? So, I mean, you know what it's like. You know what it's like, Ocho?

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You got a lot more. Your. Your mom, Them and grandparents look at you a lot differently when you making the money. When you paying all the bills.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Now all of a sudden, you know what? It's okay, baby. Come in here when you want to. Where Before I could come in the house after midnight, but now. Hey, come in when you want to. And so we. And Joe, you said something in the. Ocho, we've talked about this as a 18, 19 year old kid, he's trying to get to the next level. So as Joe said, that guy is going to pretty much do whatever you tell him because he feel you're helping him get to that level. I'm already at that level. What you telling me, right?

[Co-host/Analyst]

What they're going to be? You see how Luca did JJ told him go sit his ass down. That when he came down. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey. And at that, at that point too, Joe, you know, correct me if I'm wrong. It takes a certain coach to gain the kind of respect for players that's already millionaires that got that kind of money.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

It depend on who coaching them. You know what I mean? The players have control at the NBA, but depending on the face that's the head coach of them, they're willing to listen.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

They're a little bit more receptive, depending who it is. Especially I would think maybe a former player or maybe a coach that has a winning record like a field Jackson.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You got to deal with egos, Ocho.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Because at the college game you can tell the guys because you got five, five stars.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

We'll say in order for us to win, we've got the ak. You got to do this, you got to do that. But when you got those kind of guys, bro, I get my points down. What he said, give me that ball. I'm playing 40 minutes.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And I'm gonna get my numbers.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah, right? Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Now, if I, if, if in the course of this game, you know, hey, I can get me four or five rebounds and dish out some assists, but I'm gonna get my points. And so that's what Phil was really good at. Phil was really good at managing egos. And that's what you have to do.

[Co-host/Analyst]

It's hard, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And as a coach, Joe, you know this. Ocho, you know this, that's a grown man. He got a wife too.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

How you, how you talking to him like, Like I'm a grown ass man.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah. So, you know, you can talk to some of them college players like that, but I promise.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Analyst]

When you get to the pros, bro, it's only so much guys gonna take. I'm telling you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They may let it put hands on you.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, I ain't telling what somebody told me. I'm telling you what I know. I can't talk to no man like you talk to 18, 19 year old kid.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He'll slap five from you, man.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Listen. Hey, boy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey.

[Co-host/Analyst]

I've been in some locker rooms where I Seen some coaches and some players get into it, and I'm like, hold on. What's going on here? Yeah, it's different, bro. It's different when you get to the pros, man. It's different.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, how you let that man push you down? How you let that man kick you in your butt? Come on. I mean, I could never do that because the way I grew up in the south, and the coach. The coach was damned like a parent, whatever. He said, if you. If, hey, you. I go home and say, granted, the coach grabbed my face mask and did all this. What? The first thing she asked, what'd you do? Right? What you're supposed to say. You're supposed to say, nah, baby. He only supposed to do that. You asking me what I did. No matter what I did, he should have grabbed my face mask and listen. But as a grown man.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You gotta have a level of. And that's what I said. You got to be careful how you a man talk to another man. Oh, well. Well, you tried to win games. Okay, okay.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Win game.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's hard to win game when one of your best players got a lot closed.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. And that is real important, too, Uncle Joe. At that level, whether it's. Whether it's NFL, whether it's mlb, whether it's even NBA, every coach has to know his player. Every coach has to know his limits. You got to know how to coach certain people a different way. You co. You can coach some people hard.

[Co-host/Analyst]

I agree.

[Joe Johnson]

And some people, you can't be like that. You know, you got. You got to call them a little bit. You get what you want out of them.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, to maximize their talent. You better understand your players very, very well.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah. Because everybody. Yeah, because everybody don't respond the same way.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah.

[Co-host/Analyst]

You know what I mean? Like, you can. It's just like, man, when I was playing at Arkansas on the. Coach, Nolan Richardson, Uncle Ocho, I'm talking about, man, when you talking about somebody who stayed on my ass, I'm like, hell. I started to wonder if he liked me. But then, you know, as you get older, you like, well, if he own you, then he sees something in you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Something.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Co-host/Analyst]

But if he come in there, he don't look at you, don't speak to you. Oh, it's a problem. Yeah. You know what I mean? So I had to learn that way.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Coach Calvin told a story about when he was a D coordinator in. In Kansas City. And Percy Snow. Percy Snow came out with me. He's from Michigan State. And if I'm not mistaken. Percy might have been defensive player of the year but chase to see who was defensive. No, it might have been him or say out but anyway coach say he was real quiet. Yeah, he did something and coach was trying to say something and and Percy didn't respond.

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

coach Kyle will cut the light on and say, percy. You hear what I'm saying? He said Percy. Turn around. Coach. Is there a problem, Coach? They turn the light off? No, it ain't no problem. For real? Yeah. Hey, hey.

[Co-host/Analyst]

I found that out the hard way. When coach stay on you, man, don't be one of them guys who always got something to say back. Because if you are, he gonna be on your ass all day long. You know what I mean? Hey, look, he got on Me, I sit there, just take it and keep moving. You know what I mean? I ain't never say nothing back because I want you to go on. Leave me alone.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Exactly. But like I said, some coaches you can ride. Some coaches you got to be facetious. I mean, some players you got to be facetious with.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Some A players, like, look here, son, this is what we need. We need to be X, Y, and Z. And you need to explain it to him in a tone, because I'm telling you, you try to talk to everybody. You try to coach everybody the same way.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm telling you. Hey, Joe, I tell you what somebody told me. I'm telling you, I've seen it.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I'm.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm one of the few, obviously.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, really?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, my. My upbringing, Joe, you. You know how coaching was. I'm sure you've seen many clips, Uncle. You know how they. You know how they coach down here in Miami? You know how they coach. You know, in the inner city is different. The screaming, the cussing, the coaching. Slapping of the helmet.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Grabbing up, the yanking. You know how that is?

[Co-host/Analyst]

That's how I came up.

[Joe Johnson]

Bingo. So, obviously in Cincinnati, you know, man, Hugh Jackson, I don't care about you wearing 85. I don't care about you being Chad. I don't care about you being Ocho. I'm gonna coach you the same way I was coaching when I was growing up, and I understood that. So I'm used to. Because I'm used to it from back then.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I thought, okay, this is how it's supposed to be. I wasn't tripping.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

But other players that weren't even at my level of talent or caliber.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

He had to coach him a different way, man. Coach me hard, man. Cuss me. I don't care what you do. Slap me, helmet up, whatever. If that's what it takes to get the best out of me, I'm all for it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I don't know if you could do that now. I don't know if you can coach young kids like. Like. Like what we got.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, man. Parent. Parent to be at. Parent to be at the school. Parent be at the. At the field cutting the food.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah. They gonna. They gonna be. They gonna be in the portal. Hel. They gone.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Cause you see, hey, the parents not run out there and be fighting the coaches and all kind of things. I ain't never heard. I ain't never heard of no pain. I mean, growing up and and coaches would grab face masks and slap your side, the head or do all kind of stuff. Punch you in the chest.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Not one parent ever came out there.

[Co-host/Analyst]

No, no, no.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, you saw that. Because most of the time, the parents knew the coach. They went to school with him.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Uncle Joe, you seen the clip? The 707? The dude knocked out the ref.

[Co-host/Analyst]

I seen he was.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I saw that.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Fired on him.

[Co-host/Analyst]

He was squared up with the other.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, what a one.

[Joe Johnson]

Ref knocked out on the floor. He squared up with the other one. I'm like, man, what are we doing? What does 707 come to?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, but those. Those are parents that are living their life through the kids. See, if you. If, like, Joe, what Joe look like out there? Like you think your kid is your meal ticket.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So you living vicariously through your kid? Joe was a professional. I was a professional. You was a professional, Ocho. You ain't gonna be carried on like that. Cause you've had your life. Let the kid live their life. Yeah, but when you live vicariously through your kid, you think that's you. That ain't you. Sit your ass down.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yep. And then the mistakes that you made as a youngster, you trying to help him not make those, not make them. Yeah, but hey, Ocho, you said something. I agree with you, too. I think the upbringing that we had, meaning the tough coaching like I was in when I was in playing AAU ball for Mike Greenwood, Sylvester Allen, they kind of raised. They raised me, taught me the game, taught me how to compete. And then you get to high school and college is different, and I'm getting chewed out. You know what I mean? So by the time I make it to the pros, Uncle Ocho, the coach get on me, man. That shit going one ear out the

[Joe Johnson]

other out the other.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah, listen, that don't even bother me, bro. You gonna let me play or what? I just wanna. I just wanna play.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey. And, you know, I don't think a good thing, Uncle Joe. You think about today's society and the way kids are being raised. They're being coddled. There's really no discipline. There's really no structure. And I think it's almost handicapping the kids, because once they get in the

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

real world, they got no coping skills.

[Co-host/Analyst]

There you go. They gonna quit as soon as it gets tough.

[Joe Johnson]

It's gonna eat. It's gonna eat you up. It's gonna eat you up quick. So I. I wish in. In a sense, we can go back to maybe not how it was when we grew up, but just a little bit of structure, Just a little bit of discipline, because life ain't gonna be fair once you're out there on your own.

[Co-host/Analyst]

It's hard to have this for your ass up.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

The way these kids talk back, I mean, you might suck. You might. They call it kissing your teeth, but you might suck. Yeah, you might roll your eyes or stomp off or something, but it wasn't nobody blatantly just talking back and cursing at the teacher. Like, we see clips, students fighting teachers. That was.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Hey,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I didn't see. I couldn't be no teacher, man. I couldn't be no teacher.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, you see some of the clips? Hey, Joe, you see some of the clips? The way the students talk to the teachers?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. They slap them.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I didn't see.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Get out my b. You better get out my face. They be on their phone, kid might come back and pop you. I ain't got time for that, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Could you. Could you imagine raising your hand at a teacher back then?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, no, boy, that teacher called home and. And told Barney or Mary, I ain't going home. No, you caught.

[Joe Johnson]

You called my grandma. Hold on. My grandma. Hold on. My grandma made me, Joe. And, yeah, I'm supposed to be at Miami Northwestern, you know, with Teddy Bridgewater. And all these boys went, I'm in the inner city. My grandma say, baby, listen, once you hit ninth grade, you not going over there. I need to be able to keep an eye on you. She sent me over there to Miami B Senior high. Why? Because she taught at the middle school. She taught the Nautilus Middle School.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Lo and behold, I was very smart of her because my badass, always skipping class, she able to get over there in 10 minutes to me.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah, she. She already knew you was a little dude.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. I was bad, Joe, all right? I ain't gonna lie to you, Joe. I wasn't. I wasn't, like, in the street bad. I was bad in school bad.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Skipping, talking, excessive talking. Yeah, and other.

[Joe Johnson]

And other people pee class.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Hey, you got both lunches? You on both lunches?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Both.

[Joe Johnson]

Both lunches, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, I kept an effing conduct. I got A's and B's. I got effing conduct.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, let me tell you how bad I was, Uncle Joe. You know, in high school with us, in order to be outside the class while class was going on, you had to have a hall pass. I had hall passes in my bag, already signed based on what period it was. So if I got caught in the hall. I could show it, man, I got. I got suspended five, five. Five days when they found out I had stolen passes and the teacher really didn't sign it.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Oh, man. Hey, hey, and your parents. Hey, they be pissed if you get suspended, boy, and you got to stay home for more.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, three days.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Hey, you gotta stay home three days. Hey, don't answer the door for nobody, right?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Nobody.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't care who it is. Nobody should be coming here doing work hours.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's how she got up a couple extra dollars. I've been hearing my aunt. Oh, y' all got suspended, huh? Okay, that gonna cost you. I tell Barney Porter you got suspended, it's gonna be hell at 4 box 385. And what it gonna cost? Hey, hey, guys, they get on the bus just like they going to school. Hey, get off the bus.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And go walk the streets until it's time. Get back on the bus and come on. Cause, boy, if I told Barney Porter they were suspended.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Oh, no. Been on like Donkey Kong, wouldn't it?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Man, what, man, that man ain't played that foolish. Hey, he said he already told him, say, you ain't got to go to school, but if you go to school, go to learn, right? Yeah, simple as that. He's a. You could quit. It's a. You quit, you gotta work. Yeah, but if you go to school, don't be. Hey, he did not. He did not believe my grandma. The same way do not believe in wasting people time. Yeah, some people go there, other people want to learn. Just because you don't want to learn, that don't mean you go there and interrupt somebody else learning, right?

[Co-host/Analyst]

Man, listen, I never understood how cats would come to school and act a fool knowing their parents didn't play that, bro. I'm like, man, I know your mom and daddy, boy. They ain't playing none of that. I don't know why you here acting a clown. Cause I know. I know my mom and my grandma weren't having it. Oh, no.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe, you got beings.

[Co-host/Analyst]

I got whoopings, ocho.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, you weren't that. You weren't that big then, huh?

[Co-host/Analyst]

I wasn't. No, I'm saying. I'm saying when I was a youngin. But I'm saying, like, I wasn't no bad child. Now, you. You know, if you was in the. If I was in the house with you, you wouldn't even know I was in there. I'd be in that chill in my room. I'm still. I stayed to myself, you know?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What I mean, okay, but you know, Joe, quiet.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah, I ain't.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I ain't in class. Even if you were big, though, Joe, you wouldn't, boy. Bet you, man. I was bigger than my grandma. But I wouldn't bow up at it. Even if I was getting. Even if I was dead. I knew I was wrong. I knew if my. If I wanted to break loose or do something, I knew my grandma couldn't handle me.

[Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right. Come on, man.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right. I had too much respect for my grandmother. Ever raised my hand to ever raise my voice. There you go. At any adult, even them teachers at school.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah. Yeah, that's me, too. You got too much respect for your people, man. Your mom, grandma, your dad. You ain't. Man, you ain't gonna be acting no fool like that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I know I would. You wouldn't. I mean, even. Even people that weren't your family members. Like I said, it was a community. It was a community back then.

[Joe Johnson]

A village.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Direct you. If you're doing something wrong, they'll say, son. You, son. You supposed to be doing that right, Ain't you? Ain't you marrying Barney grand boy?

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yes, ma'.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Am. What, do they know you? No, ma'. Am. Okay. You want me to tell them? No, I sure don't. Please don't tell them.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, you tell you about correct.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hell to pay.

[Joe Johnson]

Correct. Hey, Joe, back then, you get in trouble. Depending on where you at, depending on as a family member or somebody that is close to your mama, your grandfather.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Or your pops, they can whoop you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, absolutely. What they saw you do, not only

[Joe Johnson]

can they whip you once, they tell your parents, then you get another whooping when you get home.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Absolutely. 1,000%. Ocho. 1,000.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Hey, let me tell y' all something. I could take a whooping from anybody in my family, bro, but. But my auntie. My aunt Sherry, she was a military lady.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Analyst]

When I said she had. She got twins. Derek and Deborah. When I tell y' all this lady didn't play, I'm talking about. Cause she coming in there swinging extension cord. She ain't damn a belt. She coming there swinging that stitching cord. Oto, train track. I'm talking about, if you in the way, your ass gonna get hit. I'm like this in the corner.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm like, damn. And you know, back then, they hit you with anything they hit. You pick up a shoe and throw it that wooden spoon. My head was a drum. The way they hit me on my head with that spoon, the first thing

[Joe Johnson]

they get their hands on. Joe Grandma.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Let me tell you, when you get in trouble. I'm just saying, for me, I'm not sure how anybody else. You know, how anybody else was raised. When I get in trouble, especially when it came to school and I came home, the first thing she say is, lay right here on my lap. It took forever, me to get on that knee.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Lay on her lap. But she.

[Co-host/Analyst]

She put.

[Joe Johnson]

She put me on. On one leg, right? And she take the other leg and wrap it around to where it's locked right behind the knee joint so I can't move, huh. So it's like I'm stuck in a sense. Man, listen, man. Hey, I. I never forget that. I never forget them whooping, boy.

[Co-host/Analyst]

It's some whoopings that I've seen. I ain't necessarily had, but it's whoopings that I've seen that I'm still scarred to this day. I ain't lying to y me tell y' all something. It was Christmas. Around Christmas, my cousin, them, they pinching the bottom of the presents, trying to see what they got. Yeah. My auntie done figured all that out. When I tell y', all, she came in there swinging that stitching cord. Boy, I was in the corner. I'm like, I ain't touched nothing. I'm talking about,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

hey,

[Joe Johnson]

there was some good days, man. Good days.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But I look, everybody that I knew in my family, that's how my uncles raised their kids.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yep.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's how my grand. Because that's how they were raised. So I didn't know any different. I thought. Hell, I just. Everything that I saw, my uncle, they didn't play that. Especially Thornhill, because Thornell. Thornell was the oldest rescue. So he passed. And then my mom, they were. They were close. They were thurno, born in 40, mama born in 43. So they were the oldest. Because back then, the oldest son, there was a great chance he wasn't gonna finish school. He gonna be working with the great. He gonna be working with the man in the fields. If they will put wooden. They dip and tar, whatever the case may be. He's gonna be doing that.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

The oldest girl was gonna help the mom raise the kids.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

She gonna learn how to cook. She gonna learn how to clean. She's gonna learn how to wash clothes. Because that was her job, her responsibility. Because my grandma was going right back to the field.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

To pick cotton. And as the other kids got older, guess where they are. In the fields with my grandma.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They didn't play that. All that talking back Boy, you couldn't. Don't slam no dough. Don't stomp your feet, don't suck your teeth, don't roll your eyes nothing. Boy.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, boy, if Barney park. Lord, I wish my brother here tell y' all the story. That man didn't play. Not what he even is his own grant. His own kid. Grown. Grown. Got kids.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't, don't, don't nobody disrespected that man. I'm talking about nobody. Go to Glenville, Georgia, and ask anybody. My from the ages of 70 on back down. Say, tell us about Mr. You know, anybody. Think about Barney Porter, man. Mr. Barney didn't play. He sure didn't. He didn't play the drums. He damn sure ain't played with nobody. Kids. All that kid. That's why I get all that. Kiki, kid.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah, yeah, I'm with you on that. My uncles, my aunties, my grandma, grandpa. Man, they ain't play them games, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And that's what I've been telling Ocho. I said I didn't grow up like that.

[Co-host/Analyst]

No.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

All that playing. Cause they would say, stop all that playing before somebody get mad.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Cause when somebody get mad, I'm gonna get mad and I'm gonna tear both your asses up.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, the funniest thing I never forget. Joe, Joe and Unc, man, as a little kid, you know, my grandma, she's singing in a choir. So she's singing in choir. That means she all the way up there. I'm out there in the pews.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

So I know where she can't get to me right now. Yeah, man, I'm in there playing around, man, with my little brother in church. I never forget Mount Olivet Baptist Church in Overtown. And they singing, and me and him, we back there tussling, playing around.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

In church. And she stopped moving. Quiet, Going back and forth, swaying. Yeah, they should stop swaying and just look.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Turn into a ventriloquist.

[Joe Johnson]

What?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Because my grandma could talk without moving the lips.

[Joe Johnson]

Ocho, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Cause we had. You had to be on the first or the second puke, benches, pews, whatever you guys call it. You had to be on the first one or the second one. You don't be a spank. You know, I'll tell you. Yeah, my grandma. My grandma in deaconess corner. Yeah, boy. My grandma. Hey, when you get home, I like you cousin in the church didn't hear that. Good boy. When we got home.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Barney. Mayor ain't ain't play like that. Hey, so I. I think. You know what. And I said, I was telling you guys the other day, I think that's a lot of all that playing that keep. Because he didn't do that. He didn't do. He didn't. Hey, he wasn't about no cracking no jokes, man. We going fishing one day, we pull up there with my grandfather pumping gas, and the dude say, all right, Mr. Barney, don't catch them all. Oh, Lord, you think that man called that man?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, Lord.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, you know if. Hey, you know if everybody said, hey, don't catch them all.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah, yeah, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

My granddad put that car that put that truck in park and cussed that and call that man everything. Hey, you know, my grandfather had false teeth also.

[Co-host/Analyst]

So he had his teeth.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He had his teeth on the dash

[Co-host/Analyst]

in that glass cup.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, they were the Kleenex. He had him in Kleenex.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Oh, he had him in Kleenex, Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Had him in Kleenex.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, Mr. Barney, better catch your teeth before they run away. I think me and spanking thing. I look at spanking, spanking, look at me. I said, why you keep playing with. He said, man, I done told you I'm a grown ass man. I don't play. Yeah, like that. Yeah, stop playing with me.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Before I hurt you.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

he meant that.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Cause look here, my grandfather was. I think Uncle Willie was the young. Was the baby. So papa probably was like the knee baby. Yeah, that's older. Brothers and sisters.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

My grandfather. My grandfather had a thing. Don't thump a kid. He'd always say, don't dump a kid on his head. You make him thick head. Yeah, he won't learn. I ain't gonna make it. No. Hey, you ain't gonna learn. Come he got a problem or he ain't gonna learn. Yeah, but he had a. He. He always tell. He didn't play that. Don't thump the kid on the head. My grandfather we on the front porch, me spanking and his brother. I ain't gonna call his name. He thumped him. Oh, stop, Uncle, I said, I call his name. Papa was in the bed. He thought me again. I said, ow. Stop thumping me. After a while, my grandfather slept naked. After a while, you could hear the chain jiggling. He putting on them coveralls.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I ain't never seen wear anything but coveralls. Yeah, he wear the one with the strap like junior samples. He had to pull the full cover off. Balls. Yeah, I heard him putting them on. Came out there, he said, he said, I've been. Told you. I said, I told you don't thump the boys on the head. You make them thick headed, they won't learn. Yeah, he said, if you thump it one more time, I' ma blow your brains out. He got in his car and left. He never came back. I probably was about five. My grandfather. That was three years when my grandfather died. He ain't going to church to look at him. He was at the church, but he ain't even go in there. When I say Barney Porter ain't play as a kid. Well, most of the kids, yeah. I mean, ain't nobody left but the older kids. Thurnell gone, BJ gone, Gladys passed, Marinell Pass and Thermal pass. So five of them gone. Ain't nobody left with Jane, Sherman, Mama and James. He did not play. He would if he. If he told you something, set your clock back.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

If he told you if you had church and he told you he gonna take your ass up when you got

[Co-host/Analyst]

home,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

just know it.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah, if he.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You uptown and you acting a fool. I got a dude put. A kid pushed me, man, that you could push me. I put. I pushed him so hard. Bad skin, all his knees up. The only difference was they always catch the guy. Yeah, man, the principal got me and whipped me.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Oh, man,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

guess what? I went right home. I was. Hey, I was cool. I got about halfway home, I started crying. And I got off that bus. Boy, what's wrong with you? He had a deep. He had a deep. Boy, boy, what's wrong with you? That boy pushed me down. I pushed it back. Papa and Mr. Such and so whipped me. We got the car. We got the car. We're right back up there. So you put your hands on his boys again. I had no problems. When I say that man didn't play.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Nope. Hey, man, but that's the discipline. So I was used to like coaches. Grab your face, man. Son, do you hear me talking to you? Son, do you hear me talking? Oh, Joe, you know you'll hear me talking to you. Well, damn, I heard you from the sideline. Yeah, I hear you, but. But if that's what you grew up with. But I just like, man, I sure want to be a good enough player one day. A coach won't yell at me. Like I can say, nah, don't yell at me like that. Don't coach me like that. That's what I was thinking when I was a little kid. They yell at everybody.

[Co-host/Analyst]

It, man, that's how I just had to take it. Yeah, that's how it was.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Uncle Joe, y' all ever saw a matter of fact chat, too? Y' all ever saw the documentary Year of the Bull?

[Co-host/Analyst]

No, I ain't seen.

[Joe Johnson]

Never saw that, man. I mean, if you ever get opportunity. Joe, I. You be busy, Joe. If you ever get opportunity, watch the documentary chat. I'm not sure if y' all seen it called the Year of the Bull.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And it.

[Joe Johnson]

And it's. It's a. It's a visual reference on how we are Coach, regardless of what inner city school you go to, regards to what optimist club you go to down here in Miami. Yeah, it's exactly like that. Yeah, it ain't pretty. And if you watch it in today's time, in today's era, you'd be like, ain't it when. Hell, anybody can do that to my child or do it to my kid? No, but that's. That's the way it was.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

People kill hell at you about the kids. Now, you do that to you. You do that to somebody kid. Now, boy, they kill you like you.

[Co-host/Analyst]

You man.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, if you. If you see that, you. You. If you see that, you'll be like, oh, hey. Oh, hell, no. But, hey, them coaches. And it obviously is about Miami, Northwestern, you know, back in the day, the way they. The way they coach, slapping the kids, coaching the kids, fighting on the field, every. Everything on camera.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah, but you know Coach hall, who coached my brother. Coach Hall, Coach my mom. My mom graduated in 1960. I graduated in 86. 6. Coach hall coached my mom, my high school coach coached my mom. He coached all my uncles. He. He taught driver's ed. But he was a Coach Hall. Coach Holly. His whole favorite word. Sucker. Yeah, he called somebody. He called you a sucker quick. But he. He had the right temperament.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

To be a coach, and everybody knew it. He coached everybody that grew up. Coach hall coached their coach, their mom, their dad, and went to school with their grandma and granddad. So they knew Coach hall, and he from Savannah. Now, mind you, Savannah, Glenville is 65 miles from Savannah. For 50 years, he drove from Savannah to Glennville every day and drove back home. Sometimes he would drive to Glenville. We'd have a track meet in Savannah, Take us to the track meet, drive us back to Glenville, drop everybody off. I was the last one he dropped off.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Drive back, get his car and drive back to Savannah and be back to Glenville.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So every hall of Fame I've been in, he's been there. Super bowl, all the. He's Been there. That's the kind of. That's the kind of coach I need. Got the peewee, the pop water coaches in the jbq. Cuz I. You know, hey, I start to get good, Jo. I start to smell myself.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah. Yeah. I already know it. I already know it. Hey.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey. I quit. Or at least threat to. We got our game on Monday night. We got the Yukon Huskies taking on the Michigan Wolverines on a Monday night. Who you got? You would start with you, Ocho. Who you got?

[Joe Johnson]

I. I got Michigan. I got. I got. I got. Yeah, I got Michigan.

[Co-host/Analyst]

I got Connecticut. Since Ocho got Michigan, I ain't got it. I ain't riding with you. I got Michigan.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You want.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Bet. You want. I mean, you got Michigan. I got Yukon.

[Joe Johnson]

Let's bet some on it.

[Co-host/Analyst]

All right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Would you. You know what?

[Co-host/Analyst]

Nah, let's not bet. Let's not bet. Let's not bet. Uncle, you got. Uncle, you got.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ooh. Man, if Lindenberg wasn't hurt, I think I would take Michigan, but I might got to go UConn, man. I don't know. A big. I don't know if they can beat UConn without him, right?

[Co-host/Analyst]

Without him. Healthy. 100. Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. I. I tell you what. I tell you what. Since both of y'. All. Both of y' all got UConn, right?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, let's. Let's.

[Joe Johnson]

Let's make a little small wager. A small wager that's feasible for me where I won't. I won't miss it. Five hundred a piece.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Listen, listen, listen, Ocho, I already owe you an ass whooping. I just don't want it to get out of hand, you know what I mean? Where you owe me the way you owing me now.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, but look this. Hey, Joe, look what he got on the back of it, man.

[Co-host/Analyst]

That's what I. We've been talking about this already, you

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

know, that's your boy. That's me. I'm going to send it. I'm going to see. I'm gonna get the ass. Let Ash go ahead and send that to you.

[Co-host/Analyst]

There you go. What size is it? What size is. Make sure I can.

[Joe Johnson]

What you gonna. You gonna wear it?

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna wear it. Say it. Large. Yeah, I can squeeze in there. I get in there. I can get in.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, tell him, Joe. If you don't do nothing, take a picture in it.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, come on. Hey, let's stick the business now. Let's stick to business. So we want to bet 500 or what? 500 a piece.

[Co-host/Analyst]

What you think? Should we trust him on this?

[Joe Johnson]

It's only 500.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You won't be 5,900 for. For three years.

[Joe Johnson]

But that. That's any. That's an emergency fund.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Huh? So what? So I guess the 500 gonna go to the emergency fund. Also.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm paying. A matter of fact, I'm gonna pay y' all right on the spot on the show Monday night. I. I'm telling you. And. And Joe. Hey, Joe, for your sake, you better hope. You better hope we. We.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You know.

[Joe Johnson]

Cause you talk about me on you. If Michigan win. I. I mean, if Michigan lose, I might not want to pay you just so you get mad.

[Co-host/Analyst]

See, you gonna piss me off, and

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm gonna have to whip your ass

[Co-host/Analyst]

like you are you gonna add to the ass whooping? Ocho, don't do that. That's all I'm saying. I think you're a good dude. I really think you're a good dude. I really do.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm a good dude. He just don't pay his debt.

[Co-host/Analyst]

I hate for it to go down like this. You know what I mean? It's like a dude with a gun.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Like, I got one.

[Co-host/Analyst]

I don't really want to use it, but.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right. You know what I mean?

[Co-host/Analyst]

Don't push me.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You feel me?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey. Honestly, I think Joe barking up the wrong tree.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay?

[Joe Johnson]

Joe barking up the wrong tree, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

All that. I think I'm. Damn. I want to pick Michigan so bad. Damn. I hate that Lindenberg got hurt.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, come on.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You're not.

[Joe Johnson]

He hurt.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He.

[Joe Johnson]

He got a little thigh contusion. He gonna be all right by Monday.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Please.

[Joe Johnson]

Gonna be all right by Monday.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That man, that blood finna settle in that muscle. Yes, sir.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, all they gonna do is get that graston. That's what we call it grassland, right?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, you talking about when they take that thing and just.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, right. Loosen that thing up.

[Co-host/Analyst]

He gonna have to be doped up.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, that thing hurts so bad. That thing hurts so bad.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, it do. You ever had a contusion, Joe, man?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Ain't nothing worse than that. Well, so, like, you try to chase a dude and you get kneed in that quad? Yeah, it's a rap, Ocho. You out about a week or two here.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, you got. You gotta get on that fast, too, boy.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Who you taking, Joe? You taking Michigan?

[Co-host/Analyst]

Oh, I'm taking Connecticut.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You take a Yukon?

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ocho taking Michigan. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

So. So both of y' all want to go against the grain? Y' all did the Same thing when it came to making that bracket. You see, y' all lost.

[Co-host/Analyst]

We all lost. Oto.

[Joe Johnson]

No, no, no, no, no, no. Hey, listen. I lasted longer than you two. That's all that matters.

[Co-host/Analyst]

It don't matter.

[Joe Johnson]

I lasted longer than you two. That's the key.

[Co-host/Analyst]

I was happy as hell, Arizona.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah. So 500?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Bet I might change my mind tomorrow. I'll let you know.

[Joe Johnson]

See, see, see? Hey, somebody. Where he got common sense? Come on. Come on over here. To the winning side, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But you janky, so I ain't sure that bought in with you already.

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