Nightcap Hour 1: Nuggets BEAT Spurs in SEASON FINALE + Lakers vs Rockers PLAYOFF PREVIEW + Sixers vs Magic + Detroit Basketball is BACK

Summary

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Nightcap Hour 1: Nuggets BEAT Spurs in SEASON FINALE + Lakers vs Rockets PLAYOFF PREVIEW + Sixers vs Magic + Detroit Basketball is BACK

Podcast: Nightcap
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson, and Joe "Iso Joe" Johnson
Date: April 13, 2026

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Overview

This episode of Nightcap dives deep into the NBA’s busy end-of-season drama, breaking down critical Western and Eastern Conference playoff and play-in matchups. The legendary trio—Shannon Sharpe (“Unc”), Ochocinco, and Joe Johnson—bring their signature blend of sports insight, humor, and competitive banter as they analyze game results, offer predictions, and place a flurry of friendly wagers. The show also celebrates the resurgence of Detroit basketball, mixing stats, storytelling, and classic trash talk in truly unfiltered Nightcap style.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

Western Conference Playoff Picture

Timestamps: [05:45] – [21:50]

• Nuggets Beat Spurs – Setting the West

  • Nuggets clinched the 3rd seed, setting up a series vs. the Timberwolves.
  • Play-In matchups confirmed: Suns vs. Blazers (7/8), Warriors vs. Clippers (9/10).

• Nuggets vs Timberwolves Preview

  • Jokic’s Dominance: The group marveled at Jokic’s historically great season despite injuries to key teammates. Joe Johnson praised Jokic for keeping Denver on track and referenced the supermax/awards eligibility (related to the 65-game rule).
    • “It’s hard to say a season in which he’s played better than what he’s played with this year.” (Joe, [08:42])
  • Minnesota’s X-Factors: Ochocinco and Uncle Ocho both picked Minnesota for the upset, citing Ant Man’s (Anthony Edwards) playoff fire and overall roster depth.
    • “I’m not betting against Ant Man—he’s a different animal, especially playoff time.” (Ocho, [10:31])
  • Key Question: Who will step up with Ant Man?
    • “The question is who’s going to come along with him? Drew Randall’s got to be 20 and 10. McDaniels, probably 15 to 20 and defend Murray.” (Shannon, [14:13])
  • Jokic’s Impact: Joe breaks down Jokic leading the league in rebounds and assists at historic efficiency, highlighting how Minnesota can only hope to slow, not stop him.
    • “We’ve never seen a guy lead the league in those two categories … He gave you 28, 29, 12, and 11, shooting 56% from the floor—unheard of.” (Joe, [15:00])
  • Defensive Challenge: The group agrees that the Timberwolves must mix up defensive looks against Jokic.
    • “You gotta make it as uncomfortable for him as possible. You cannot give that man a steady diet of one look.” (Uncle Ocho, [18:11])
    • “He always has the answer for everything you throw at him … You really just gotta worry about the other four.” (Ochocinco, [20:29])

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Lakers vs Rockets Playoff Preview

Timestamps: [27:51] – [41:46]

• LeBron’s Heavy Lifting

  • The Lakers, missing AR and Luke, will need LeBron to return to “2018 LeBron” levels of dominance.
    • “Nobody in the history of the NBA past the age of 37 has been asked to do more than LeBron, Ramon James … He’s gonna have to be 2018 LeBron.” (Joe, [32:06])
  • The supporting cast (Rui, Aiden, Canard) must step up, particularly on defense.
    • “Can you get this type of production from Rui and Big Aiden for a playoff series? That’s what you’re gonna need to win, bro.” (Uncle Ocho, [29:24])
  • LeBron’s Court Control
    • “He can control the game. He’s going to dictate the speed in which the game is played. He’s not gonna let you just get up and down.” (Joe, [37:07])
  • Rocket’s Young Talent
    • Houston is described as a “juggernaut” with full strength—Shengun, KD, Thompson—posing a significant challenge.

• Predictions and Bets

  • Debate erupts—Ocho rides for LA, Uncle Ocho for Houston, with a friendly (but competitive) wager on Game 1.
    • “If anybody could do it—Go, James, go! Somebody give me a game, Go James to do the rest.” (Joe, [41:11])
  • Playful jabs about “pockets you can’t break” and taking bets underscore the episode’s energy and camaraderie.

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Play-In Tournament and Matchup Predictions

Timestamps: [43:02] – [47:47]

• Suns vs Blazers, Clippers vs Warriors

  • Panel picks the Suns and the Clippers to advance.
    • “I got Phoenix. I don’t know how they dropped all the way down to where they at.” (Uncle Ocho, [43:07])
    • “Come on—what they got down there in the Bay outside of Chef Steph?” (Ochocinco, [43:37])

• Sixers vs Magic, Hornets vs Heat

  • Sixers picked over Magic (“They got enough guys on the perimeter who can score, even without Embiid,” [44:34]).
  • Hornets picked by Uncle Ocho over Miami, despite Ocho’s Miami roots, much to Shannon’s disbelief—setting up several $100/$200 tongue-in-cheek bets.
    • “I’m part of Heat culture, but boy, I like them Hornets, man … them boys balling.” (Uncle Ocho, [45:07])
    • “Last person that played for the Heat that didn’t believe in us … you know what happened? You lost.” (Ocho to Ocho, [52:39])

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Atlanta Hawks vs Knicks Play-In

Timestamps: [56:04] – [61:13]

• Hawks’ Upset Hopes
  • Despite being underdogs, Uncle Ocho is bullish on his Atlanta Hawks—emphasizing depth, versatility, and the need to slow down Jalen Brunson.
    • “We got so many guys who can play make, who can shoot, who gon’ defend. We just gotta slow Brunson down.” (Uncle Ocho, [57:25])
  • Extensive discussion about how to match up physically and strategically with the Knicks’ bigs and their homecourt edge (which might be offset by large NY transplants in Atlanta).
  • [Ongoing running gag about bets, “don’t send me no money before the game even start!”]*

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Detroit Basketball is BACK

Timestamps: [64:56] – [68:19]

• Pistons’ Remarkable Rebuild
  • Two seasons after a franchise-worst 14–68 season, Detroit posts 60 wins—“blue-collar, gritty, tough, defending at the highest level.”
    • “They got a lot of guys, obviously, who can play, but they gritty, they tough, blue collar, hard-working cats who gonna defend at the highest level.” (Uncle Ocho, [65:14])
  • Praises for roster build: Cade Cunningham, Thompson, Duren, Lavert, Duncan Robinson, Huerta, Tobias Harris, and how they execute on both ends.
  • Both hosts agree Boston remains the Eastern Conference bar, but Detroit could threaten.
    • “As great as they play in the 60 wins are 60 wins, it’s just hard for me to see them beating Boston in 7 games.” (Joe, [66:09])
  • Quick analysis of Boston’s incredible three-point mark (“made 29 threes today” [66:45]).

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• “If you hire the wrong law firm, you might get beat before the game even starts. All law firms are not the same.” (Joe Johnson on Morgan & Morgan, [02:19])
• “We’ve never seen a guy lead the league in rebounds and assists in the 80-year history of the NBA.” (Joe Johnson on Jokic, [15:00])
• “The mere fact you got me trying to put my faith in DeAndre Aiden...what other choice you got?” (Joe, [40:01])
• “Don’t base it off—it gotta be miss or make. I don’t care if he misses his first 4-5 shots. Just keep letting it go.” (Ocho on LeBron’s need for aggression, [36:39])
• “We got two of the top ten scorers in NBA history against each other again—Durant and LeBron.” (Uncle Ocho, [38:27])
• “You ever see the pigeon? As soon as you shoot, guess where he go? He come right back to the windowsill.” (Joe, on players’ habits, [59:53])
• Running Bet Banter: Repeated playful one-upmanship about sending money for bets before games, “You’re trying to get me to burn the money!” (Ocho, [54:20])

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Mini-Previews: Series & Play-In Picks

| Matchup | Ocho | Uncle Ocho | Joe Johnson | |--------------------|---------|------------|------------------| | Nuggets-Wolves | Wolves | Wolves | Nuggets | | Lakers-Rockets | Lakers | Rockets | (Leaning Houston)| | Sixers-Magic | Sixers | Sixers | Sixers | | Hornets-Heat | Heat | Hornets | Split w/ $200 bet| | Suns-Blazers | Suns | Suns | Suns | | Clippers-Warriors | Clippers| Clippers | Clippers | | Hawks-Knicks | Hawks | Hawks | Discussion: matchups|

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Segment Timestamps

• [05:45] – Western Conference playoff picture & Nuggets-Wolves analysis
• [27:51] – Lakers-Rockets preview & LeBron’s role
• [43:02] – Play-In tournament picks (Suns-Blazers, Clippers-Warriors, Sixers-Magic, Hornets-Heat)
• [56:04] – Hawks vs Knicks breakdown
• [64:56] – Detroit Pistons’ resurgence

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a showcase of deep basketball insight, lively debate, and the kind of fun, authentic camaraderie fans have come to love from Nightcap’s trio of hosts. The mix of stats, on-court breakdowns, and off-court betting chatter sets the stage for an electric NBA postseason, where anything can happen—and no opinion goes unchallenged!

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[Uncle Ocho]

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[Joe Johnson]

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[Uncle Ocho]

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[Joe Johnson]

When is the play in tournament?

[Uncle Ocho]

Tuesday, I think. Does it start Tuesday?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, Tuesday. Okay. The play in tournament Blazers play the Suns and then the warriors play the Clippers. The Nuggets V. The playoff series with the Nuggets in the Wolves. Joker versus Ant Man. Be a very compelling matchup. Remember what happened a couple years ago? They beat. Was it last year? No, two years ago when. Remember the Nuggets? The Nuggets got out on them too old and everybody thought the series was over and they tracked them down.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

So Joe, who do you like? I mean, you like the Nuggets? Jokic is playing at maybe the great. I mean, even he's already won three MVPs, but it's hard to say a season in which he's played better than what he's played with this year. Considering that Gordon was out a number of games, Murray was out for a number of games and so him. Brown was out for a number of games and he was. Watson missed some time.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And he was able to keep this team and they're the three seed. So, so what do you like, who do you like winning this series and how many games you think it's going to take?

[Uncle Ocho]

Ocho? I think I'm, I think I'm gonna go with Minnesota on this. Yeah, I'm gonna go against the grain a little bit. I know Jokic, he, he, you know, he, he, he pretty much have his way with Goberta on there, but I just feel like Minnesota got a lot of guys they can throw at you and Ant man is a difference, you know what I mean? Meaning he know he gonna have probably a couple of them huge games. And I don't know how healthy Denver gonna be. I'm not sure how healthy they're gonna be. Now, I know Yogic is special, but I feel like Minnesota got a real chance to, you know, knock these boys off.

[Joe Johnson]

Ojo who you like in this series.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Listen, I love Jokic. I love what he's done. I mean, you two, you know, you speak highly of him. Hell, everyone else speaks highly of him. Hey, listen, he's in for the MVP race. Aaron. Gordon not healthy still, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Well, I think they're trying to rest him. I mean, the guys, I mean, Jokic was the only start, if I'm not mistaken, that played today. So they're trying to rest those guys. Gordon did come back. Watson is just coming back. He missed some more games. I think the thing is, as long as Murray, they feel very comfortable if they got Murray and Jokic. But I think Gordon is the missing piece though. Gordon, that third link.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah. With Gordon missing and even still with Gordon missing, I'm really pulling for Minnesota and, and man, I'm not betting against Ant man because he's, he's a different animal. Especially playoff time. He don't really care who he playing against. He f to go at you and, and give you that work. So he likes moments like this, especially when it comes comes into having to prove himself. So I, I, hell, I, I got, I got the Wolves.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, the only, the only reason why I think Jokic played is because he had to make the, the 60.

[Joe Johnson]

He had to play 20 plus minutes in order to get the, the, to make the, that limit the note. 65 games.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah, I would have been playing too.

[Joe Johnson]

Hell yeah. I ain't gonna miss out on that supermax money. I gotta rb. Think about it. You, you, Luca and you led the league in score and got total points and you ain't, you ain't not eligible for no awards.

[Uncle Ocho]

He gonna have to. Hey, he, he got. They, they gonna have to rescind that or something. I mean, he missed two, he missed two games. Children. Yeah, and they, they might have to. I think they probably, they're gonna say,

[Joe Johnson]

but yeah, what about those other games that you miss because you say you was health related? See, if you'd have played those health related games, we would be having this discussion. That will be Joe. Because see, that's the argument that you're gonna have. Because what's gonna happen is that somebody's gonna say, well, you know, my dog got sick or this got sick because, you know, people are always looking to push the envelope.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

It's never somebody. It's just, I don't know, you know the old adage, if you're not cheating, trying, somebody's going to come up with something. And so I just think the thing is, and I would love for Luca because I believe he's an all NBA player and he deserved to get it. But the rules are the rules, and if you start bending them a little bit this way, guess what you're gonna have to do. Guys bend them a little bit that way it's only a matter of time. It just is. So I guess I'm the lone wolf here. I guess I'm gonna have to take the Nuggets.

[Uncle Ocho]

Why are you taking the Nuggets, though? Give us.

[Joe Johnson]

I just, I, I just. Like you said, Jokic always has his way. And is there something about Jamal Murray come postseason? I don't know what it is, Joe, but he takes his game. And we saw this year he was an all Star, but he plays like that all the time. He's an always at all. He's always an all Star. When it comes to the post season. And we, we've seen this. He's one of the few guys that he takes his, his, his playoff numbers to a different level. We've seen some guys maybe average one or two more points. And Kevin Durant averaged one point more in the postseason than he does in the regular season. LeBron. But this guy averaged like 7, 8, 9 points more in the postseason than he does the regular season. So you're talking about big game, a big game player tomorrow. But I just think the thing is they have so much depth now. Now they got Valentunas that can come in and give them valuable minutes. They got Bruce, they got Bruce Brown that comes off the bench, plays defense, can knock down threes. Christian Brown has another. Brown has another year of experience on his belt. I like Straight, straight, Straighter. I like Watson. I just like, I just like the pieces that they have now. But like you said, the missing link to everything is Aaron Gordon.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Because Aaron Gordon is going to be responsible for dealing with, with Drew Randall.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

He's going to be the guy that when you collapse the pocket, that they're going to have to spin the ball and he's going to have to knock down that open three. So I believe he's going to play a big valuable role. I believe he's up to the task and I'm gonna Take the Nuggets.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay. All right, well, listen, I understand, you know, Nuggets got a championship pedigree. They done been there, done that. So, you know, they know what it takes. But I don't know. I'm just giving the edge to Minnesota, man. I'm rolling with Timberwolves. I. I feel like Ant man ain't gonna let me down.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, he gonna get his. Hey, but the question is if there. Ocho, before you go. The question is Ant Man's gonna do what he does. Ant Man's gonna probably get somewhere between 30, 35 a night. The question is, who's going to come along with him? Drew Randall's going to have to probably be something like 20 and 10. McDaniel's gonna have. Probably have to be somewhere between 15 and 20. And he's gonna have to do an outstanding job trying to stay in front of Murray that which is a lot easier said than done. Go ahead. Oh, what's your point? You want.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You're right, you're right. I just, I just want to hear what you would hear what you were going to say, but I'm not sure. You want to bet against Ant Man.

[Joe Johnson]

No, I don't like betting against that man. That's the home team. That's eve Georgia boy.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

But you just bet against him. You pick the Nuggets to win the series.

[Joe Johnson]

Man, do you see yoke? I mean, the man led the league and rebounded in the fifth. Ocho, we've never, we've never seen a guy do this before in the history of the NBA. In the 80 year history, no guy has ever led the league in those two categories. We've seen guys lead the league and, and points and rebound and guys have led the league and, and, and points and assists. Tiny Archibald led the league in points and assists. He's the only guy to lead the league in points and assists. And we've seen big guys, we've seen will lead the league numerous times, right, in points and rebounds, but we've never seen a guy lead. Think about what you have to do in order to lead the league in rebounds and assists. And he did it shooting 56% from the floor, which is unheard of. I ain't talking about a guy that just spends all his time trying to. DeAndre Jordan used to shoot 68, 70% from the floor, but they were dunks and lobs y shooting mid midis. He's shooting threes and he's shooting at that percentage. And he gave you. On top of that, he gave you 28, 29, 12 and 11.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah. Hey, hey. Look, I always cook.

[Joe Johnson]

Go Bear.

[Uncle Ocho]

I like. I like your argument. And you're right. Gordon is definitely the. The key factor. But I guess McDaniels is the key factor for Minnesota. Meaning if he plays great basketball, it ain't got to be 25, 30 a night, but if it can be anywhere efficient, 16 to 22 a night. And you know, he's defending well, I think they almost be impossible to beat. It's just he have games where. And I'm speaking on McDaniel where he plays great and you. It looks like Minnesota is hard to beat, but then he has some games where he kind of disappear and you like, hold on. You know what I mean? So I think he's the key factor for Minnesota. Ant man's gonna need McDaniels to play well too.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

And the funny. The funny thing about it is, is Joe, you talk about McDaniel having to play with him sometimes. He disappearing. Hell, I think the key factor if ant man gonna get his. And we know what Ant man is going to do. Hell, we need Julius Randall to always be on point every single night. You really can't have no off nights now.

[Uncle Ocho]

He got to be 2018. He gonna have to be 2010 in this series. Well, he gonna. Hey, they gonna have their hands full. Will go with yoke down there.

[Joe Johnson]

They gonna have their hands full because he always. Look, the thing is, basically he's go. The Que. The question is and this is the dilemma and Webster defined dilemma is two equally perplexing situation. Would you rather get hit by a dump truck or a mack truck going 50 miles an hour? The results are the same. You just as deep. One of the Mac truck and the other the dump truck. So what do we. What do we do, Joe? Do we let go Bear try to deal with this man and let him go get 35, 40 or do we try to send help and allow me get 28. 15.

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[Joe Johnson]

Because you know, in some of those 15 assists, some of those are going to be threes. They're not going to be all twos. They're not going to be all Jordan in the dunker spot. A Brown in the dunker spot. Getting dunks in layups. Some he's going to swing that ball and some guy is going to be hitting corner threes.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

So that is the dilemma. Do. Do we let him. But the Que. But here's the problem. As the Clippers found out, you might say, okay, let him go get one on one. And now he still gives you 50 and 10.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah. Well, look, you gotta look at it like this. Uncle Ojo, you know, he. He's probably more than likely gonna get his numbers right. You gotta make. You gotta make it as uncomfortable for him as possible. So what you cannot do is get that man a steady diet of one look.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

You can't get Yokage that, bro. You're gonna have to mix it up throughout the game. Okay, look, this quarter, we may come on the first dribble. This the next quarter, we may come on the catch. Third quarter, you may have him by yourself, you know what I mean? I feel like you gotta keep him guessing just as well as he gonna keep you guessing on defense, you know what I mean? You gonna have to show him different looks. Never let him get comfortable. Cause he gonna expose you each and every time. Especially if you figure out your coverage and you never change it. Man gonna. Hey, he gonna have one of them 40, 40 20s and 16 triple doubles. And that ain't what you want, bro. That ain't what you want.

[Joe Johnson]

On the season, he averaged 28 on 57 shooting. He was 38 from the three. He had 13 rebounds, 11 assists. And Gobert, because Gobert is not the fleetest of foot. So he gonna get. Go, Go Bear gonna have to be trouble. He's gonna have to be careful and not to get in file trouble early.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Cause Nas Reed is not big enough in the back pocket to deal with him down on. He.

[Uncle Ocho]

You know what? Nas Reed ain't. But he got a little bit more mobility to where he can kind of keep him in front. Look, they ain't gonna stop him, but they gonna have to make it tough for him. You're gonna have to wear him down. You know what I mean? I ain't saying he ain't gonna score 30, which he probably will, but at the same time, you're gonna have to make him work on defense just as much work on offense. You can't let him rest. You let him rest.

[Joe Johnson]

But here's the thing. How Rudy gonna make him work on offense?

[Uncle Ocho]

Well, that's.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, on defense, he gonna have.

[Uncle Ocho]

And he gonna have to be rim running, playing hard. He gonna have to be doing a lot.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, you know, Rudy. Rudy can mess around and give you 27 too. Now out the blue.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, no, no.

[Joe Johnson]

He. That was the one time. That was a one time thing.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I know.

[Joe Johnson]

You saw what he did with the Lakers. That was a one time thing.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, Joe. Another thing was funny, right, is you talk about having to give jokers different looks, you know, and different sets, and. And making it a thinking man's game for him. But the funny thing about it is, you think about. He played the whole. A full season, right.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Seasons. He done seen every look possible, and he always has the answer for every goddamn thing you throw at him. So I think what Minnesota got to worry about is, like, listen, we know he gonna get his. We know he gonna get his. We gonna do what we can, but we gonna worry about the other folk. We gonna find a way to maintain and control the other foe and let him do what he need to do, because there's really no way to stop him. There's really no way to contain him, slow him down.

[Uncle Ocho]

You're right. Oho. Ain't nobody been able to crack the code. But here's the difference. In the playoffs, this is the only team that we'. We gonna have to dissect everything that they do offensively.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

And defensively, and we got to make them pay, bro. You know what I mean? Like, Minnesota gonna have to find. They're gonna have to find a way to win in. In Denver. Who got the home court advantage? Denver does, right?

[Joe Johnson]

Denver. Yeah. Three. Minnesota's the six.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. So I. I look forward to seeing Minnesota go in, especially game one, you know, trying to steal the first game, but it's gonna be hard to stop them, Ocho. It is, but I think they gonna hone in, you know, more on this series because this is the only team that they're facing right now. So, you know, you. After the first game, you'll see some adjustments, you know, depending on how Minnesota plays. But, yeah, I definitely think, Uncle Ocho, they cannot give yoga just steady diet of the same look every play down court, you got to mix it up, bro. The great was going to expose you

[Joe Johnson]

the problem that Minnesota potentially runs into. Joe, you say make it tough on him. Try to make it as inefficient as you possibly can. The problem is he's shooting 57. So you say, you know what? We're gonna make him shoot 5% less than what he normally shoots. He's shooting 52%, so he's still making over half a shot. Most guys shoot in the. They shoot. Let's just say for the sake of argument, they let's. They shoot high 40s. And you say, you know what? We're gonna make it tough on them, and so we're gonna make them inefficient. Now they're in the. Down there. They're in the mid to low 40s. If you make him shoot 5% less than what he normally shoots, he's shooting 52% from the floor. He shoots 38% from the three. That is absurd, a man his size shooting like that. So when you factor in, he's shooting 38% from the 3, he's shooting 57% from the 2. And I just think the thing is, like you said now, the problem that he has on defense is that he has to guard Nas Reed because Nas can pull him out to the three point line, keep his ass from being under the basketball. Now I can pull him out here. Now I can use my quickness and get by him. Yeah, because he can't slap, he can't slack off because now it can knock down the three.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes, sir.

[Joe Johnson]

It ain't no, just no, hey, hey, just show or, you know, show or head. No, no, you can't do that. You got to get up on him because he can knock down the three.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, Nas. Nas gonna have to play huge, too. But yes, I agree with you. You know, it's. It's gonna be tough, you know, trying to stop Jokic. Me personally, Uncle Ocho, I say start off, man up, you know what I mean? Because what you don't want to do, you don't want to get Jokic 40, and Jamal Murray got 30, and then Gordon got 25. You ain't got a chance of winning like that. You may have a good chance of winning if, you know, jokic go for 50, but everybody else, you know, keep struggling. You keep them low pro. So I don't know, I'm curious to see how. How Minnesota is going to. Going to approach this series or how they gonna start off on Jokic, because they understand they gotta slow him down some way somehow.

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[Joe Johnson]

That's innerbalance.com yeah, you're right about that. The next the Lakers take on the Rockets 5 matchup LeBron James without the without he's gonna, he's the lead dog. And what we've seen Joe, he must have heard us being aggressive.

[Uncle Ocho]

There you go.

[Joe Johnson]

Fifteen shots in the first half. You saw the game before he did. What was it, 28, 12, 28 13. And, and, and, and, and, and, and seven or eight.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

In the game before that. So we see being in the lead spot that now I got to be aggressive. The assist gonna come because I'm, I'm, when I get down the lane, I'm gonna pull coverage. I'm gonna drop the ball off the D A. They're gonna come. I'm gonna be able to swing the ball. Who do you like in this series and how many games you think it takes?

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, man. Without Luca and and Ar, it's just tough. But I know Lakers had a lot of great success against the Rockets this year. Uncle Ocho. Yes. They guard Kevin Durant. I haven't seen many teams guard him like that and be successful at the same time. Man, can Aiden keep this up? Can he continue to give you 22 and 10 a night in in a playoff series? On he, I mean he in order in order for the Lakers to win this series, like, like I've always said, Braun got to be aggressive and those other guys gonna have to come along. But can you get this type of production from Rui and And. And big Aiden for a playoff series, because that's what you're gonna need to win, bro. They gonna have to be. They gonna have to be special. Them two guys gonna have to be special.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

What you think?

[Joe Johnson]

If you think about it, what I've looked like, what I like is that is when Luke Canard is aggressive, when they try to close out on Emoto, he ain't just sidestepping, selling for the three. Joe, he'll put the ball on the floor. He tried to get all the way to the rim, and then when you come, he'll kick it. Yeah, he's been really, really aggressive. And I've never seen. And I'm. I'm like, damn, bro, you had this in your bag all these years and you just been shooting threes. I've never seen him put the ball on the floor as much as I've seen him put the ball on the floor since he's been with the Lakers. Yeah, he's normally a spot a catch and shoot or spot up shooter. That's normally what he is. But since he's been with the Lakers, he's been extremely aggressive. Now, Rui shot 44 from the 3. He's been. He's been aggressive. When the Lakers are aggressive and they do a great job of taking care of the basketball because sometimes they can get really sloppy and they have. They'll have turnover after turnover after turnover. And they have these logs, Joe Ocho, they have these stretches where they'll go three, four, five minutes and not score a. A field goal. You can't have that in the playoffs. You can't have that. LeBron's gonna have to go back. For so long he's been in the lead, he's been the driver. And this season he wasn't the driver. He wasn't even in the passenger seat. He wasn't even in the cat bird seat. He was riding in the back. In the what? The worst seat, the cat bird seat, which is a. A favorable position. So he was. Hey, hey, Joe, you know you used to ride with your homeboy. It is the one out the window. Be Holly trying to holler at everybody. He ain't got no car. He with the driver's seat. He had to with. Hey, hey, what's up? What's your name is. Hello, Bro, hold up. So LeBron, they had LeBron in the back.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

But unfortunately Luca got dinged. AR is dinged. And LeBron has been thrust back into that now. Nobody is nobody in the history of the NBA past the age of 37 has been asked to do more than one LeBron, Ramon James. The mere fact that they still have. Well, if he the guy, bro, he 41, you never ask guys, what guy did you have that kind of. Did you have that on even when Kareem. I think Kareem won a Finals MVP. Kareem might have been what, 35, 36 when he won the Finals MVP. But they weren't counting on Kareem to do that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Right.

[Joe Johnson]

That was magic. That was worthy and Kareem did that. So now he has all this on his plate.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

It's going to take a Herculean ever. It's going to. It's going to take guys playing above ruins going to have to play great every game. Laravia is going to have to do a great, unbelievable job because I think he and Marcus Marks going to have the assignment of dealing with KD and LeBron is going to have to be. LeBron is going to have to be 2018 LeBron. I think that is the apex. Look, people go back and say, nah, it's 2012, 2013 Braun. I think 2018 Braun was the greatest Braun we had ever seen. Because you're looking at a guy that averaged 34, 8 and 8 in the postseason with eight 40 point games and he got that team to the NBA Finals. He's going to have to be that Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn. That's eight years ago, Unc. You think he can get back to that?

[Joe Johnson]

I don't know if he can, but he's gonna need anything less will be uncivilized.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, that too.

[Joe Johnson]

Without that Joe, he. They can't go any further because the. The Rockets are at full strength. They got Shingoon, they got kd, they got Thompson.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You know what, hey, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

And all was that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

He's a chosen one, ain't he?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

But we call him King James for a reason, right?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

What we can't do is we can't bring in the fact. We can't fact in. Oh, he's 41. He's playing at a high level for a reason. He's LeBron James for a reason. So if he's still in the NBA, he's expected to look a certain way. He's expected to play a certain way.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

But obviously now unfortunate circumstances have occurred. AR is out and Luke is out.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

So we're expecting LeBron to look exactly like he always has. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

What you're saying 28, whether it was

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

2018 or whether it's 2013. And that's what we're expecting. Because he's still actually playing basketball even at 41.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes. You're asking a man that's 41. Something in the history of basketball, nobody else has been asked to do well.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Nobody else had opportunity and nobody else has been. King James.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they've been supporting. Yo, he's still for you. Yeah. See, I think the thing is he. That's the thing, Ocho. He's been so great. You've. He's been so great for so long. You forget you and I both know what it's like to be. Get old. You better expand to the people it. I don't care who you were. Father Time don't wait on you. Because the thing is the, the problem that he has, okay, when I, when we were great, as we were starting to age, what we could, what I could do, I'll just speak for me, yeah, I could give you a herculean effort, but I'm gonna need about three or four weeks before I give you another one. As opposed, as opposed to when I was in my, you know, when I was in my 20s, I put them back to back.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I want that 23 year old, Shannon. He don't exist no more. He don't live here. I don't know what happened to it. I don't know what happened to him later, but he gone. So just take this 35 year old and be happy with it.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, listen, I, I agree, I agree with you. All right? He gonna have to, he gonna have to be Hercules. And, and I think he knows that though. I think he's relishing this moment and I think he gonna really try and take advantage of it and show people like, man, y' all must have forgot, bro. Y' all must have forgot him. I heard him say, he said, man, taking it back to the old days. I heard him say that. So I know, you know, he understands. And from the past two games, how aggressive he started out the games, I bet you come out, he gonna come out guns ablaze. And he has to. He has no choice. I'm talking about in the playoffs. He gonna have to shoot that thing about 25, 30 times, easy. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And, and, and the thing is, Joe, As. And people like, well, he should just. Do you understand how much effort it takes to just drive the basketball when you constantly getting beat up? You got to go through the, you got to go through a body, you got to beat one guy and then you getting met at the rim. It takes a lot out of you. The same thing with A running back as he start to get older. I can't give him the ball 35, 40 times a game. Ocho and Joe, back to back to back like I could when he was in his first or second year. Now he's in his eighth or ninth or 10th year. I can't give him the ball like that. I can, but I'm going. I ain't gonna have him down the stretch, you know.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You know what? LeBron has played so long, he gonna know when he needs to insert himself. He's gonna know when he needs to be aggressive. I think he's gonna pick and choose those moments when he needs to do what?

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, for sure.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Don't base it off. And how everyone else is responding in game. Yeah, that, that, that's all. I mean, that. That's all. But the way he, the way he came out tonight is how.

[Joe Johnson]

And the other night also.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I'm talking about miss or make though. Okay. O. I don't care if he first

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

four, five shots, just keep letting it go.

[Joe Johnson]

Joe, you gotta stress the defense as

[Uncle Ocho]

though he just made his last 4 5. That's what I'm saying.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

He got to let it go. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

But the thing that, that he does so well, that he's probably done better than anybody in the history of the game is that he can control the game. He's going to dictate the speed in which the game is going to be played at. He's not finna let you just get up and down because guess what? He'll walk the ball up. I'm not gonna listen. I'm not fitting to get into a race with Fairbreads when that's not what I have to run with on my side.

[Uncle Ocho]

There you go.

[Joe Johnson]

So I'm gonna control the pace if he have to. Okay. Yeah. If there, if there's an opportunity to get a transition bucket, okay, fine. But we're not just finna get up and down. We're not finna get in that. Okay. We put you. Let's see how well you can mentally function running your half court set over and over and over and over and over again. Because in football, Ocho, what we try to do, minimize the big plays.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

How did the Giants beat the Patriots? They minimized the big play. They didn't let Randy get over the top.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

If you're a big play offense, okay. Instead of getting one to two plays in your ass in the end zone doing that. Let's see if you could do that. Let's see if you could do the Same thing, Hojo, if you take you 12, 13 plays, because I believe you'll make a mistake if you have to consistently do that, as opposed to give you one, two big strikes over the top. So he's going to control the tempo. That's what he's always been good at.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And they're going to try to speed him up. They're going to try to coax him in. Let's run. Hey, nah, we don't need to do that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, and then, and then you got to look at it from this side. We get two of the top 10 scores in NBA history against each other again.

[Joe Johnson]

Yep.

[Uncle Ocho]

And Durant and LeBron James. Yeah, man, this is, this is going to be a great series. I, I'm, I'm. I think, I hope, I hope the Lakers can get two games, bro. I hope. I, I just think. I, I don't know. I mean, Braun gonna have to be so great just to keep them around. Cause I just. Houston is a juggernaut. They got a bunch of young guys who could play. They, I, I feel like they gonna take advantage of the moment playing at home, getting a chance to. Oh, no, the Lakers got the home court advantage.

[Joe Johnson]

They got home court.

[Uncle Ocho]

They might have a good chance. Yeah, have a good chance. You can't. Hey, look, I tell you what. If you're the Lakers, you can. You got to win both of these games at home. The first two, because Houston coming in, they coming in disrupt something.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

So hold on, hold on, Joe. Let's. Let's be clear now. Uncle, you got this series now. You got. Obviously, you know, I'm going for the Laker. Joe, who you got? Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, Joe, I'm probably, I'm going. I'm probably gonna go with Houston. I ain't gonna lie to y'. All. I'm going Houston. I think, I think Singoon, bro Sengon. I don't know how in hell they gonna stop him, man.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

DeAndre, Aiden Finna have an out of body experience. What you mean, how they gonna stop him?

[Uncle Ocho]

Huh?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Man, Aiden gonna give you 20, 25, 25 a night.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hell, Unc don't even believe that.

[Joe Johnson]

No, I'm just hoping. I'm just hoping. I just wanted to catch the ball. If you catch the ball, he might give us 2010. We can live with 2010. He's been able to live with 1812.

[Uncle Ocho]

He been catching it in the past couple games. Hey, he in playoff mode.

[Joe Johnson]

He read it. The mere fact that y' all got me trying to put my faith in confidence in this man,

[Uncle Ocho]

what other choice you got?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

No choice.

[Uncle Ocho]

Y' all at home. Y' all got home court advantage,

[Joe Johnson]

Guys to be more careful.

[Uncle Ocho]

I want to bet the first game. I. I kind of. I kind of.

[Joe Johnson]

If. If anybody. If anybody could do it. Go, James, go. I tell you what. I just need somebody to give me a game. Go, James. To do the rest. Okay, Somebody give me a game. Somebody. Have an out of my Luke Canard. Go. Go. Six for ten from the three laravia. Have. Have a. Have a game. I'm gonna need somebody. Somebody to give me a game.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hold on, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Go, James. Do the rest.

[Uncle Ocho]

What's up?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Don't think I ain't just hit you now.

[Uncle Ocho]

What?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Make it light on yourself. What you trying to do.

[Uncle Ocho]

You got the Lakers.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Who, me?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I mean, honestly, I ain't really got no horse in this race, but whoever you got, I'm gonna pick the opposite just so we can push it down on it. Who you got?

[Uncle Ocho]

I got. I got Houston, game one. Let's go. Game to game.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Game.

[Uncle Ocho]

Game.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Okay. Let's make it easy, though. That's easy. That's easy.

[Uncle Ocho]

I got you. I got Houston, game one.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Okay, I got the Lakers.

[Joe Johnson]

There you go. That's what I'm saying.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey, hold on, hold on. You got Ochi. You know he janky as hell. You got that man riding with you.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

He got.

[Joe Johnson]

He got it. He got it.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

A perfect.

[Joe Johnson]

He got on purple today, so he got it. Gotta be Lakers, huh?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

What we talking about? Hey, Joe. How much? How much we talking, Joe? So I know how much to put aside.

[Uncle Ocho]

Got a bit number like little hundred. Just a friendly bet. Ocho, I ain't. I ain't trying to break your pocket, but I want a nice little friendly bet.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I appreciate that, but, Joe, I'm not one of the pockets you could break, but I mean.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I understand. I understand, I understand. My bad, my bad. I ain't mean the word like that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, I don't really tolerate no disrespect, though.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay, Okay, I see. I see. I see.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay. The playoffs. The number seven matchup. Sixes versus the Magic. The winner goes to the number seven seed, and they play the number two seed, which is the Boston Celtics. And so the loser, now they'll wait. The. The winner. The winner of the Heat Hornets Heat matchup. So who you got? Who you got in the. I forgot to ask you guys, who you got in the. Who you got in the what?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

The plan.

[Joe Johnson]

The seven. So Phoenix, Portland, they kick it off. Who you got, Joe? Joe, you Got Phoenix or you got Portland?

[Uncle Ocho]

I got Phoenix. Phoenix. Hell, I think they healthy now. Yeah. If I ain't mistaken. But I. I got Phoenix. I don't know how they dropped all the way down to what they at. What.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

What.

[Uncle Ocho]

What spot they in on seven.

[Joe Johnson]

They played. They play. They're the seven, and then Portland eight.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I got. I got Phoenix. I got Phoenix beating Portland. I know Portland been. You know, despite everything that went on this year, they. They didn't play pretty good basketball. But I got. I got Phoenix beating them.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay, Clippers, Warriors, Clippers.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

What you mean they ain't got enough firepower over there and down there in the bay?

[Joe Johnson]

No, they got Chef Steph.

[Uncle Ocho]

Outside of Kawhi, what the Clippers got? I know they got little Darius Garland, too, but. Yeah, it's a toss up to me what they. Oh, they playing in la.

[Joe Johnson]

They played into it.

[Uncle Ocho]

I probably. Yeah, I'm gonna go Clippers. I got Clippers. I got Clippers.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

See? Told you. Come on.

[Joe Johnson]

Who you got, Ocho? You got. You take the Clippers also.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I said the Clippers right away.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I'm gonna go with childhood also. Yeah, but damn, boys, I can't believe we bet to get Chef Steph, man,

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

he gonna do. He can't do. He can't do it all by himself.

[Uncle Ocho]

He gonna try.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, damn sure make you think

[Uncle Ocho]

he can

[Joe Johnson]

get out there. Get the cookie. All right, Joe, So in the 7C matchup, you got Sixers, Magic, who you got?

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm going Sixers, bro. I. I don't think MB Playing, but I don't even care about that, Uncle Ocho, because I like how Edgecomb and Maxi play when MB Yeah, and because they got. They got backup bigs who can. You know, they're not gonna put up embiid numbers, but they gonna play hard. They gonna do their job. And I think they got enough. They got enough guys on the perimeter who can score the basketball to where I feel like they. They can beat Orlando Hornets, Heat.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Come on, Joe. Make the right decision now.

[Uncle Ocho]

Ocho. I like Joe.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Joe, don't do that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Don't do me like that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You used to wear this jersey, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Ocho, I know. I. Look, I'm.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm part. I'm a part of.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, based on your decision, you're not gonna be able to come back to Miami. Be careful.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm a part of Heat culture, but, boy, I like them Hornets, man. I ain't gonna lie to you. Okay, Ocho, Them boys balling, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, they be letting that three ball go. You know, canipple and. And mellow finish one, two and threes. 273 to 272.

[Uncle Ocho]

Give me the Hornets, bro. Let's go, Hornets.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I knew you were gonna do that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Now, boy, what we betting on that game? What are we betting on this game?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You know, I'm going with heat now. Now, I. I see Lamelo. Hey, passing up goddamn twos. Going out to the goddamn three. Went to the three and. But you know, Jo, let's make it light. I'm going to heat no matter what.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I don't care who it was playing, but we can make it like a light, not a hundred, so 200 in the hole right now.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah. Hey, listen, man, Mellow out there. He playing a video game. Seem like they. Hey, look, look, they got some talent. They got. They got some nice young talent who can explode, and I think they gonna play well in this play in. I'm. Hey, the Hornets been hooping.

[Joe Johnson]

They got. They shoot that three ball, man, really well. They can shoot you out the building from the three they get. And they got like, five, six guys that could easily, on a given night, make eight threes. You got Lamelo, you got knipple, you got Brandon Miller, Miles Bridges, you got Kobe White. Kobe white came in, they gave another 19 off the bench, man. They. Ooh.

[Uncle Ocho]

I think. I think the most underrated thing about the Hornets, not only can they shoot the three, and they got some guys who can do it at a high clip, but all of those same guys, Uncle Ocho, they can go off the bounce. Yes, off the bounce.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, look.

[Uncle Ocho]

And go off the bounce. Bridges can go off the bounce. I ain't talking about just to create for themselves like they create for others, too, which makes them so difficult to guard. And it seems like they enjoy playing with one another. Their games complement each other, you know what I mean? I think. And they got some hard working bigs down there. Yeah, yeah, they. Hey, they gonna make some noise, bro.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, statistically, right, as as many threes as they do put up as many three point shooters as the Hornets have, what do they compare, like, when it comes to the Celtics with the threes that they put up a game?

[Joe Johnson]

It's close. I mean, The Celtics made 29. Made 20 what? 29 threes today. 25. 26, 29, 3 today.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

They basically shoot at the same clip. Basically.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, they getting them up.

[Joe Johnson]

Both of them try to get up 50 a game.

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[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hold on.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I don't know if the Heat got enough firepower. Ocho.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Joe, don't do that. Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm just keeping. I said I don't know they can prove me wrong, but I'm just saying I don't know. I know. Bam, he went for 83 now.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

But hey, hey, we bet on the first game now. We ain't talking about the series.

[Uncle Ocho]

Nah, we bet. We just bet in the first game.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh yeah, well, you lost that.

[Uncle Ocho]

You know we ain't gonna play that one game. That's not gonna be no series with Miami. That's a one game to go on to see who get the seventh spot.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That mean I'm gonna have $200. Basically.

[Uncle Ocho]

They playing in Charlotte.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

What that mean? What we talking about the Heat?

[Uncle Ocho]

What?

[Joe Johnson]

What that Mean, okay, they the last

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

person that played for the Heat that didn't believe in us. You know what happened?

[Uncle Ocho]

What happened, bro?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You lost.

[Uncle Ocho]

Who I lost to.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I'm telling you, you finna lose right now. And I'm not saying I'm Cleo, I'm not. I'm not saying I can tell the future, but I'm just telling you Pat Riley's heat sposious heat is going down to Charlotte. Wait, the horn is in Charlotte, ain't it?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

All right, Matter of fact, let's make it 200.

[Uncle Ocho]

Bet.

[Joe Johnson]

Bet it.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Make it 200. That's how confident. That's how confident I am in your team. That's how confident I am in my city.

[Uncle Ocho]

Better.

[Joe Johnson]

What you call them? The Hornets made the most threes this year.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Hey, most threes per game.

[Joe Johnson]

They make about six little about 16 and a half threes per game. They made 13. They made 1300 threes.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey, Unc. They say it's a sucker born every minute.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hold on. Where.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, Ocho.

[Uncle Ocho]

What's up, baby?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, just to show you. Just to show you how serious I am, matter of fact, you know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna send you my money ahead of time.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, no, no. Wait, wait. You mean after I win?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hold on.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I'm gonna see you my 200 right now.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't jinx me like that. Don't jinx me like that. No, now wait, let.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I want you to send me 400 back.

[Uncle Ocho]

I don't know where I'm from, we don't do business like that. Like. Okay, okay, hold on.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I just don't want you to say, oh, he go. He don't. He don't pay. He don't pay. So I'm. I was gonna send it to you early, just.

[Joe Johnson]

He tried to get you to burn the money, Joe trying to get you

[Uncle Ocho]

to burn the money. I already know what he's trying to do.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Not. Hey, I mean, I just want to see more come to me, that's all. Hey, you don't even believe in yourself, huh?

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, look, so told you, bro.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

And you got your phone on you.

[Joe Johnson]

The six. The. The Sixers in the Eastern Conference. Seven, eight between the Magic. The loser will wait the winner of the Heats Hornet. Same thing with the in the Western Conference. Portland Phoenix play. The winner is the seventh seed. They play the. The San Antonio Spurs. The loser awaits Golden State LA Clippers.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Who do we like? Okay, six is Magic. You Joe, you say you like six? Yeah, Joe, I mean, Ocho. Who you like sixes or magic?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I like like sixes too. I like six.

[Uncle Ocho]

Two. I.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You know. Yeah, I like sixes. Hey, Joe, what happened if Embiid play? Everything changed, Especially Maxi Numbers.

[Uncle Ocho]

He's not playing. He's not playing? No, easy uncle. He got a serious injury.

[Joe Johnson]

He got it? Yeah, he got appendicitis. Don't you remember he had his appendix taken out.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

But you only told me that was a few days now.

[Joe Johnson]

No, ain't no few days. That thing anywhere from 10 to 14 days.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Okay?

[Uncle Ocho]

And here they play what, Wednesday, Tuesday? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

He going to be gone for a minute.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, Maxi. Maxi finna go crazy about 30, okay, Ojo?

[Joe Johnson]

Okay, Joe. The Hawks in the Knicks next. What.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You bet? Hold on. You betting against big, big body Brunson?

[Uncle Ocho]

Boy, I got the house all day long. I don't care who the house was playing. I think they could beat anybody. I got the Hogs.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You see? You see how he is?

[Uncle Ocho]

I got the Hogs.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Now you delusional like I was.

[Uncle Ocho]

I ain't no delusion. Ain't no delusion. I'm just keeping it 100oo.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

So why you ain't keeping 100?

[Joe Johnson]

When?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

When we talked about the goddamn heat just now.

[Uncle Ocho]

Well, I did kept it 100. I'm going with the Hornets.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Okay. Hey, check. Hey, check your phone real quick, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

Nah, don't send me nothing, bro. It's too late.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Send it back to me.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Dirty. That joker got no joke, Joe. He tried to get you to burn the money. You touch the money, Joe?

[Uncle Ocho]

What's wrong with him?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, hey. Gotcha.

[Joe Johnson]

Send it to Dirty boy. Hey, hey.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, oh. He trying to put that candy wrap around my head like I'm some type of. No, no, no, no, no, no.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I'm let. Joe. I'm letting you hold the money, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

I don't need to hold the money. Then let the game happen, baby. When the game happened and we win.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, you don't believe in yourself.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, I got. I got the Hogs beating the Knicks. Is it going to be a tough task? Yes, it's going to be a tough task. But I think we got guys who are very hungry. We have a team that's very, I want to say unpredictable as far as like how you can game plan for them because we can beat you in so many ways.

[Joe Johnson]

You ain't.

[Uncle Ocho]

You can't load up on nobody. You ain't.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, we.

[Uncle Ocho]

We got so many guys who play make who can shoot the ball, who can score the ball, who gonna defend at a high level. I think we gonna be able to cause havoc. The thing is, we gonna have to slow Brunson down. That's period point blank. That's the head of the snake. We slow Brunson down, we gonna be all right. We give ourselves a chance.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, I'm. I'm. I'm pretty sure Dyson Daniel is going to start out on Brunson.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

He's a big. He's a big long guy. Six, seven. And. And. And he's gonna have to. Because the thing is, you look at Brunson and you're like, oh, man, he's. Yeah. But he's got a body that can play through contact.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes, there you go.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Like a little pit.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

He built a body that could play through contact. People look at his size. But he put together now.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And so he gonna take contact. He's gonna initiate contact. And all he wants is a little separation so he can get that shot off.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

He's really cra. I don't know what it is. I think it's just like, I've never seen a left handed ball, a Hooper that wasn't crafty.

[Uncle Ocho]

You're right.

[Joe Johnson]

You look at James Harden, you look at Shonas, you look at Manu G, you look at Brunson, look at all Nate Arch. Look at. Go back and study the left handed player and all of them.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Like, damn, how y' all do that?

[Uncle Ocho]

They got some craftiness to their game.

[Joe Johnson]

They do, they do.

[Uncle Ocho]

You're right. Hey, you right. Cause his body, he built for the BS that you gonna throw at it. Meaning you want to play physical. Okay. I'm built for that. You know, he gonna post up, he gonna be in the pick and roll. He gonna be all over the damn court. But we gotta make it tough. He gotta see bodies, you know, show hands. Cause he gonna flail. Once you do try to create some contact with him, you know how it is. He gonna flail a little bit, but we. I think we should be able to handle all that.

[Joe Johnson]

But. And plus, Joe and Ocho, you gotta keep him off the free throw line.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Because he can be inefficient. But go and go to the free throw line and shoot 15 free throws.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

He's another. He gonna get his shots.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

So if you think, oh man, he ain't gonna take me 10 shots. Bull jive. He gonna be somewhere between 15 and 20. He might be. You might be able to Pimp him in somewhere between 18 and 27 shots a game. Come postseason, he's getting his shots up.

[Uncle Ocho]

You're right, you're right.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, Uncle Joe, I'm gonna need Cat to get off that three point line.

[Uncle Ocho]

Don't tell him to get off the damn three point line now. Let him stay his ass out there.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I'm being serious.

[Joe Johnson]

I. That's like telling the pigeon in New York to get off the windowsill. Well, he there all the time. You ever see the pigeon? Not a shoe. As soon as you shoot, guess where he go? He come right back. As soon as you turn and walk around, he come right back. Get right back where he was.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I need, I need him to assert himself down in the block, down in the post. Whether it's high or low. Insert yourself there. And then once you become efficient at that point, the. Then if you want to go out there to the three, if you want to do your MIDI and do whatever you need to do out there, then do that.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I mean, they ain't got nobody big but a Cong. Who the. Who the other big. They got Joe in Atlanta.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, no, no.

[Joe Johnson]

You, you.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey look, you oo right? I think we, we don't we outside of Congo. We just signed the kid from Indiana. I played with him in Utah. Damn, I forgot his dang on name. Big kid.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, oh, yeah, the kid from North Carolina. Bradley.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, Bradley. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We just signed him because we gonna need the body. That's the one thing that New York kind of, kind of scares me because of that, that paint presence that they have with Mitchell Robinson.

[Joe Johnson]

They got Mitchell Robinson. You know, Mitchell Robinson ain't looking to do nothing but grab some reaper. Grab the board, man. You're gonna give him multiple second chance points. I want a chance opportunity. Excuse me.

[Uncle Ocho]

I just watched, you know, we just played the Knicks probably about a week or so ago, and Mitchell Robinson killed us. He killed us. Yeah, so I, I, I'm sure that's gonna be in the back of these guys. Mind my biggest thing out this whole series, Uncle Ocho. The leap that I have to, that we have to see Jalen Johnson make in order for us to make it to the next round. Meaning, because he gonna have to play a lot of the four spot and we gonna need him to rebound, we're gonna need him to defend, we're gonna need him to do every damn thing. Score playmate. He gonna have to do everything. So I'm looking forward for his numbers to be real Gotti in this first, first round playoff series against the Knicks. Because outside of that, it's gonna be tough. It's gonna be tough on us, bro. He gonna, he gonna have to deliver for us.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, you definitely, because you, you definitely don't want to lose the rebounding it. I mean, you're probably gonna lose it because they're, they're a big team and they're looking to crash the board because you got a guy like Josh Hart can give you 10 rebounds. We know cat just. But just by size alone, Mitchell Robinson is looking to do nothing but rebound and defend. Yeah, he'll roll to the basket, but he's looking there to defend the paint and rebound the basketball.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah. And another thing that worries me is that I know the Knicks got home court advantage, but hell, when they come here and play to Atlanta, man, it's gonna be so many damn New York fans and it's gonna be number orange and blue. I'm like, oh, my God.

[Joe Johnson]

God, man, you know, they don't came down, Joe. They done left to see that'll left New York and can't move to Atlanta. But they still got ties to the Knicks.

[Uncle Ocho]

They still love their Knicks, man. Every time it was bad about a week ago, I'm talking about in, in State Farm arena, bro, it was nothing. Nothing but Knicks fans, I couldn't believe it. So I know it's gonna be. They gonna pack it, they gonna pack us out. But we, we gotta some way, somehow we gotta get through this.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

So what we got, what we got on that?

[Uncle Ocho]

Would you want another little hunting on that?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah. So you want me to send another 100 to you?

[Uncle Ocho]

Nah, let me put this in my notes. I gotta put this in my notes. I gotta put this in. No, no, don't be. Hey, don't send me no money, bro. I don't know. I don't know what account that stuff going to. I don't know, but it ain't mine. I'm saying don't send me nothing. I'm cool.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hold on. It said you registered with Zell.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, no, no.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, hold on. That, that wasn't you?

[Uncle Ocho]

Nah, they weren't me, bro. Oh, hold on.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Let me stop that payment.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, slow that down.

[Joe Johnson]

Late.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Now I say went through.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Hey, Yoga Yoga, llc. That's you.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, that's you.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, you got.

[Joe Johnson]

Another old show.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, no excuses. You know what? And I'm playing. I really blame myself for even dealing with this joker, like, all right. You know what I'm saying? I should have never gotten the car with this joker with it.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Joe, I'm just, I'm not gonna play. But I ain't gonna play about no money. So I'm sending to you ahead of time so you can send it.

[Uncle Ocho]

But who does that, Ocho? Who pays before the, before the game even?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That's how confident. That's how confident I am in my teams that I'm picking. You not confident. You just said it yourself. What happened to State Farm arena the last time Atlanta Hawks played the Knicks? What happened, man? So you think a seven game series gonna be any different? Delusion. That's being naive. Somebody better than that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Somebody please help this man.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, man. Listen, hey, y' all wanted me to get into basketball. I'm into it now. I'm ready.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on. Cause you got money on. So you got to watch the game. You gotta watch the game.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Listen, I'm gonna be on here talking like I'm Doris Brooker. George sedano.

[Joe Johnson]

During the 2023, 20, 23, 24 season, the Pistons finished with the worst record in franchise history, 1468. Two seasons later, Detroit finished 60 and 22, the third 60 win season in franchise history. Joe, is Detroit basketball. Are they back?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, they back. Detroit back. And listen, they're back. They, they, they got a lot of guys obviously who can play, but they gritty, they tough, blue collar, hard working cats who gonna defend at the highest level. And man, they've been playing great basketball even when Cade has been out, bro, they got guys, they play kid that come out the bitch. Jenkins.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[Uncle Ocho]

I don't know where he came from, but boy, when I tell y' all he been hooping, man, he been balling. These guys have played significant minutes when K has been out. So I, I feel like they're ready for the moment. For sure.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they're definitely back. I mean, they look, you draft K number one overall, you get Thompson, you get Duran. They. Hey, and they got got. They, they brought back Tobias, Caris Lavert, they go get Duncan Robinson, they get Huerta, they get guys that can knock down the threes. They defend, as you said, Joe, they defend at an elite level.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Protecting the paint. They got guys that can pick you up and so that. Yeah, I, I think they're back. I, I think, I think they're back. But do I. It's just hard. As great as they play in the 60 wins or 60 wins, it's just hard for me to see them beating Boston in seven games.

[Uncle Ocho]

I know, man, I, it's, it's, it, it'll be a tough Challenge for them, but I think they have a shot in the dark. They really have a. They really have a shot. I think they've been the best team in the east, obviously. Boston just getting back full, full throttle with Tatum coming back. Yes. It's gonna be tough to beat them, but I think Detroit can do it.

[Joe Johnson]

And that joker, man, Detroit. You see, hold on. I think Boston made like 29 threes today against. Against Orlando.

[Uncle Ocho]

Did he? And they ain't even. Hell, they ain't even had none of these starters out there for real.

[Joe Johnson]

Let's see what this thing. I'm almost certain they did. Cause they was.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey.

[Joe Johnson]

Because I. I glanced up.

[Uncle Ocho]

Let me see.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, Joe, what's that?

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That goddamn Kunahan boy. Well, he nice, boy.

[Uncle Ocho]

He real nice. Oh, Joe, nice, man. They got Harper.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, Joe, you got Shyman. Hit another one.

[Uncle Ocho]

That boy had.

[Joe Johnson]

Ron Harper Jr. Had 27. Luke Garza had 27. So they made 8, 11, 12, 13, 16. They was. They were 19 or 50 from the three with backups.

[Uncle Ocho]

They got a deep team, man. They got a lot of guys who could play.

[Joe Johnson]

Hell, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, Garza gave him 27. 10 of 18. Ron Harper Jr. 2710 or 20. Shireman, 38 of 28 of 26 of 14

[Uncle Ocho]

guys. Hey, you know. You know them hard. Them the hardest teams to play against. Guys who you don't really game playing for.

[Joe Johnson]

No.

[Uncle Ocho]

You know, you don't really. So you like, okay, we just gonna see what they gonna do. She didn't came out all them three guys and gave you 30 on crazy.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

So that's what makes them dangerous. Yeah. Okay.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Ch.

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