Nightcap Hour 1: Sebastian Fundora WINS by TKO vs Keith Thurman + Israel Adesanya ON the DECLINE after ANOTHER LOSS + Ocho CHALLENGES Michael Jordan & Charles Oakley

Summary

Nightcap Hour 1: Fundora's TKO Over Thurman, Adesanya's Decline & Ocho Calls Out MJ & Oakley

Date: March 29, 2026
Hosts: Shannon “Unc” Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson, with Joe Johnson (Iso Joe)

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Overview

In this spirited episode, Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco, joined by former NBA All-Star Joe Johnson, break down the night’s major combat sports headlines—highlighted by Sebastian Fundora’s TKO win over Keith Thurman and Israel Adesanya’s stunning loss to Joe Pfeiffer. The crew delivers their trademark humor and sharp analysis, exploring the future of aging fighters, what makes certain champions stand out, and then going off on a wildly entertaining tangent about high-stakes NBA gambling and challenging sports legends Michael Jordan and Charles Oakley. This is classic, rowdy “Nightcap”—unfiltered takes, ribbing, and a little locker room nostalgia.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Sebastian Fundora vs. Keith Thurman – Breakdown & Reactions

[05:43]

• Fundora stops Thurman by TKO in the sixth round.
• Shannon Sharpe: Reads Fundora’s humble post-fight comments, noting he looked up to Thurman:
  “I just wanted to take my hat off to him…worked so hard to prove I’m the best at 154.” ([06:18])
• Chad Ochocinco: Bluntly assesses Thurman’s approach:
  “He looked bad…Whatever game plan he had, it was out the window after the first punch.” ([07:26])
• Iso Joe: Candidly says Thurman “smothered with his damn face” and compared it to someone cramming for a test last minute. ([08:29])

Fight Dynamics

• Fundora’s reach and jab were too much for Thurman, especially given Thurman’s age (37) and long layoff.
• The hosts agree Thurman couldn’t command Fundora’s respect and looked out of shape for this style of fight.
• Thurman’s defensive approach—constantly “on the bicycle” (backpedaling)—was unsustainable due to his age and lack of recent ring time.
• Quote – Iso Joe: “At 37, you shouldn’t be doing that… gotta have a different game plan.” ([12:18])
• Reference to Fundora’s only loss (to Mendoza), crediting ugly, inside fighting for Mendoza’s win: “Thurman should have left this fight alone.” ([12:35])
• Shannon: “These guys younger, stronger, faster… in boxing, when it goes, it goes quick.” ([16:44])

Future for Thurman

• All agree that "ring rust" (just two fights in six years) played a major role in Thurman’s weak performance.
• Lack of tune-up fights left Thurman unprepared for top competition.

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2. Israel Adesanya’s Rapid Decline

[25:04]

• Conversation shifts to MMA: Adesanya is TKO’d in the second round by Joe Pfeiffer at UFC 271.
• Joe Johnson: “I’d have called Dana personally if I paid $150 for that. This was some bull jive.” ([25:44])
• Pfeiffer (ranked #14, age 29) “walked through” Adesanya, dominating both standing and on the ground.
• Ochocinco: “He put them paws on that boy… Did not expect that.” ([25:23])

Larger Picture

• Adesanya has not won a fight in almost three years, with losses by decision, submission, and now TKO.
• Iso Joe notes that, in MMA, there’s more tolerance for losses, but “it’s how you lose” that matters ([28:07]), and Adesanya is losing badly.
• Discuss whether Adesanya should retire, with Shannon warning:
  “This ain’t a sport you just hang around in… You get hurt in this.” ([29:14])
• Comparison to Jon Jones, whose elite wrestling and striking versatility keep him dangerous even as he ages.

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3. Crossover Fight Chatter & Upcoming Bouts

[32:26]

• Speculation on who could challenge Fundora—consensus is Jermell Charlo is the only realistic threat at 154 lbs.
• Highlights the difficulty facing boxers with extreme height/reach advantages like Fundora.
• Tease of upcoming fights: Jaron “Boots” Ennis vs. Xander Zayas and Deontay Wilder’s next bout ([33:43]).

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4. High-Stakes NBA Gambling Stories & Ocho’s Challenge

[53:10]-[65:11]

• The hosts revel in tales of NBA team gambling—poker, card games, and massive bets:
  • “I seen dudes getting off the plane on each other $150K, $175K.” – Ochocinco ([56:12])
  • Shannon once won a restored Chevelle in a bet, but let the loser buy it back for $10K.
• Challenge Segment: The hosts banter about challenging Michael Jordan and Charles Oakley to high-stakes cards or even athletic events.
  • “Hey Jordan, if you see this, if you want smoke with Nightcap, holla!” – Iso Joe ([54:20])
  • “We’ll definitely get they ass on some Uno or something.” – Ochocinco ([62:13])
• Stories about Oakley’s old-school toughness—how he enforced gambling debts, worked out with NFL players, and partied with teammates, even slapping Tyrone Hill over a debt ([71:53]).

Notable Moments:

• Planned “Nightcap Outside” segment: Ocho, Iso Joe, and Unc vs. MJ, Oakley, and Rodman—anything from cards to cornhole ([64:33]).
• “Hey man, you lose fifty, seventy thousand, your mind is not on the game, your mind is on the money you lost.” – Shannon ([57:27])
• Story: Charles Oakley once bought a brand-new BMW from Shannon for $130K in cash right out of a paper bag after seeing it at the hotel ([66:39]).

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5. Aging Legends & Athletic Comebacks

[48:43]

• Conversation turns to Michael Jordan’s baseball hiatus and return to the NBA. Comparison to Thurman's and Ali’s comebacks after time away.
  • “You look at Jordan from ’84 to ’91… you had to see it… He just wasn’t as athletic after coming back, but still gave you forty.” – Shannon ([51:04])
  • Both Jordan’s and Ali’s primes diminished after long absences.
  • Emphasis on the challenge of returning sharp after years away, regardless of all-time-great status.

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Memorable Quotes

• Joe Johnson: “He looked like he crammed the night before the test… didn’t study at all. Thurman, what are you doing?” ([08:33])
• Iso Joe: “At that age, you shouldn’t be on the bicycle… gotta make the fight ugly.” ([12:18])
• Ochocinco: “We don’t want no smoke [with Jordan]. Hey, how much we gotta bring to the table?” ([54:20])
• Shannon: “You see stacks of hundred-dollar bills, seventy, eighty thousand just sitting there… you can’t look at that as anything but money.” ([62:05])
• On Oakley: “That man will fight you in the locker room, at the club, or in the gym over ten thousand. And he’ll pay you.” ([63:17])
• On Gambling: “I seen dudes put six Super Bowl tickets down just to cover debts… Money out of sight causes a thing.” – Ochocinco ([61:08])

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Thurman-Fundora Fight Breakdown: [05:43]–[19:45]
• Discussing Future for Fundora, Who’s Next: [14:32]–[16:44]
• Adesanya Loss, UFC/MMA Analysis: [25:04]–[31:24]
• Jon Jones, Wrestling in MMA, Khabib: [36:39]–[41:50]
• Upcoming Fights/Boxing Schedule Chatter: [32:26]–[34:10]
• NBA Gambling/Challenge to Jordan & Oakley: [53:10]–[65:51]
• Oakley & NBA Toughness Stories: [63:17]–[74:47]
• Jordan’s Comeback vs. Thurman/Ali Absences: [48:43]–[51:04]

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Tone & Style

The episode is classic “Nightcap”: authentic, playful, highly opinionated, and often hilarious. The hosts blend deep sports insight with locker room storytelling, ribbing each other, and never holding back their honest takes.

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For Listeners Who Missed It

You’ll get spot-on fight analysis, context behind why legends struggle after long layoffs, and a front-row seat to the kind of stories and challenges you’d only hear from three retired sports stars. Whether it’s the mechanics of inside fighting or tales of NBA planes flooded with cash (and egos), Nightcap delivers both the sports bar banter and the sharp inside scoop.

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Listen for:

• Unfiltered boxing/MMA takes
• Insider NBA gambling stories
• Ocho’s wild challenge to Michael Jordan and Charles Oakley
• Life lessons (and caveats) from aging sports greats

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[Iso Joe]

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[Joe Johnson]

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[Iso Joe]

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[Iso Joe]

happened i was embarrassed hey uncle joe i was embarrassed listen obviously when you go into it when you go into a fight especially at this level when it's the when it's the best in the game obviously fedora only lost one fight to mendoza but you go in with a game plan you feel each other out the first few rounds you what you want to do next when it came to keith thurman whatever he had whatever he had planned and dancing around knowing you you on thirty seven year old legs understanding that's not going to last you that's only going to last you so long you got to get you got to gain his respect soon as the fight started uncle joe you got the gain of respect at no point in the fight was fedora worried about keith thurman's power at all game plan he came into the fight with fedora came out with a goddamn left and caught him right in the middle of the face that was it that was it right there yeah that was it if you're gonna fight somebody that tall who the best thing you can do is fight at distance smother the punches fight on the inside he

[Joe Johnson]

did smother with his damn face

[Chad Ochocinco]

he

[Joe Johnson]

smothered him before you go any further you say come out with a game plan hell it looked like he crammed the night before the test you know what i'm saying joe he didn't study at all i'm like what the hell i'm like thurman what the hell are you doing

[Iso Joe]

uncle joe is one thing to understand what he should do it's another thing to actually be able to execute it in the ring but with somebody that goddamn tall that goddamn long pause but you gotta make a fight like that ugly against somebody like that you gotta make him uncomfortable because fighting that distance ain't it no not that

[Chad Ochocinco]

man that size hey he was pinging him he was pinging him all night using that jab that southpaw hey look and that's what i'm trying to tell y' all because of the height disparity uncle ocho yeah so that be similar to me and you boxing you see how them you see them wild punches thurman had to throw just to even try to connect one right right like you know and then he like man i gotta come up in here so he had to take a couple lumps yeah a couple lumps almost to the

[Joe Johnson]

canvas man yeah it did it did

[Chad Ochocinco]

hey look that's why i hit you that's why i hit you after the fourth round i said oh yeah this man he ain't gonna make it he

[Joe Johnson]

ain't gonna make it i thought he

[Chad Ochocinco]

was gonna get him in the seventh i said by seven round he gonna

[Joe Johnson]

be out of there yeah he joe said he did he did he said he said thurman ain't looking good hey

[Iso Joe]

but joe hey there's a difference though joe you gotta understand see make it that far what joe you ain't got the conditioning for that hold on you know you can't throw you can't throw punches and volume in the goddamn ring

[Chad Ochocinco]

joe that's all i needed for you to doubt me hey hey you seen how thurman was on that damn bicycle all night that's how your ass gonna

[Joe Johnson]

be on that at thirty seven you can't be on the bicycle you ain't got them that's a twenty that's a twenty seven thirty year old leg not thirty seven oh that man was saying his game plan should have looked i i cannot ain't no way i'm gonna stand on the end of these damn punches oh no you better get your hey come all the way in the house you standing on the damn porch talking to that man hey bring your ass in the house either get your ass off the porch or talk to that man from the road call him on the phone but you better get your ass in that phone booth hey when i say this you gotta take some of that pop if you on the end of those punches there's no way you gonna make it it hurts hell yeah but ocho like you said this man i don't know what he thought he walked right out there that man hit him dead in his damn

[Iso Joe]

face hey the first punch he threw

[Joe Johnson]

was clean yeah you know normally normally they throw they throw something they just trying to feel you out they're just trying to get their arms warm they trying to get their arms loose they ain't really trying to land nothing heavy man i'll be damn if the man didn't walk right into a punch with his damn face okay ojo yeah he

[Chad Ochocinco]

didn't look like it didn't look like one time thurman was in great condition if you ask me he didn't look like he didn't look like he i mean i know he was in shape but he to be running how he

[Iso Joe]

was running yeah hey hey joe he got to do something you got to do something i mean if you're not gonna make the fight ugly your only other option is to be on your bicycle and pick and choose when to go in there because every time you go in there you're gonna take something going in

[Joe Johnson]

you remember the jake paul fight when he got on that bicycle yeah you can't run on that bicycle like that ain't that ain't your game i i mean do you understand how how how great a shape that you actually gotta be in to get on a bicycle and throw punches man i

[Iso Joe]

mean at thirty seven at thirty seven you shouldn't be doing that you gotta have a different game plan if if anything fundora lost to mendoza right mendoza made the fight ugly he made it ugly and he wasn't on the end of those punches he fought mid range in close it made it nasty yeah

[Joe Johnson]

yes he made it nasty yeah thurman should have left this fight alone yeah let's let's be all the way real ocho thurman should have left this fight alone think so in the words of teddy kgb what he told me this was no good for you hey hey

[Iso Joe]

yeah two fights in the past six

[Chad Ochocinco]

years yeah man he don't even look the same i guess because without the braves i'm like man who what thurman is this he came out he came out of that fifth round right after i hit y' all he gave a little flurry real quick it was like a quick three piece after that mendoza a i mean not mendoza fedora he got right back right back to that

[Joe Johnson]

jab but that that's really the hard part ocho and you know that as as somebody that that box is that you know as you get older it gets harder to throw that volume of punches you gotta be smart you gotta be smart but you gotta get the guy's attention if you don't get his attention if he don't think you can if he don't feel that you your pop that you got any snap on those punches he walking through those you

[Iso Joe]

done you done all you done you

[Joe Johnson]

see the difference with canelo and bud oh you see hey he bud touched him he like i ain't walking up in here i got to be careful hey i tried the front door let me see if a window or a back door is unlocked i ain't coming

[Chad Ochocinco]

in this damn front hey hey i understand what y' all saying but when you look at the height disparity bro six' six uncan ocho like he's probably what the tallest champion that's been in

[Joe Johnson]

a while in that division at one

[Chad Ochocinco]

hundred fifty four that's what i'm saying who gonna be able to challenge that man and be able to get in there and be able to really defeat him that's gonna be man it didn't even look tonight i could tell it was child's play i could tell you

[Iso Joe]

one person joke who charlo you think

[Chad Ochocinco]

charlo can get in there and do

[Iso Joe]

something with him absolutely because it has

[Joe Johnson]

to but charlotte will have to be able to take some punches now because what i'm saying because here's the thing though ocho we saw part charlo fight against canelo and he felt canelo power

[Iso Joe]

i'm talking about the other charlo big

[Joe Johnson]

charlo oh okay yeah look oh you remember paul williams he's the only guy that i can remember that punches around but you talk about big paul but he's like six four i'm talking about like i think he was like one hundred and forty seven yeah i can't remember a guy at fifty four this tall normally you get guys this tall man they heavyweights they knock them down one hundred fifty four one hundred forty seven man do you know first of all at six six one hundred fifty four bro you eat you you eating oatmeal and soup all day every day year round you got a six six frame ocho you know how much weight you can put on a six six frame yeah yeah so for him to make one hundred fifty four he probably not he's not a naturally big guy anyway i would say at six six he's probably walking around it probably like one hundred eighty yeah but still at the end of them punches hey if you don't get inside and make him shorten them punches and you gonna let him just snap off on this mother

[Iso Joe]

yeah he gonna kill you every time he gonna pin you gonna pick you apart hey hey hey joe if he fights somebody that's that's a that's heavy handed like a charlo that's the only person i can think of right now at one hundred fifty four that would be a good fight because they were supposed to fight at some point i saw the news about them fighting it never happened it never came to fruition but if charlo catch him with one of the best jabs in the business he get that respect it's going to be a different ball game and charlo had no problem making it ugly and and fighting on the inside hey i

[Chad Ochocinco]

know one thing i know one thing what's my man who fendor thurman yeah he better be thanking the referee tonight cause he was gonna be blue black tonight partner hey i'm talking about he

[Joe Johnson]

about to get some serious he finna

[Chad Ochocinco]

hit the canvas yeah it f be over all that blood started leaking he hollering about he tough yeah tough hey you boy better go sit down somewhere

[Joe Johnson]

yeah hey yeah and the thing and the thing is as a professional athlete when you're in the fight game because when that thing go it go quick you look bad in a hurry yeah especially because these guys are younger they're stronger they're faster it's different now yeah i understand i understand fendor he's everything that he said he looked up to the man and the man's gonna be a hall of famer but i'm gonna beat your ass while you in here and it gonna look good on my guess what ocho i beat keith thurman i beat a former champion yeah ain't nobody when we talk about this fifteen years from now ain't nobody gonna remember man hey like they said joe lewis with with rocky barcelona he was one hundred years old hey he beat him all day out he might have been sixty two years old but he beat

[Iso Joe]

him yeah you know what i also i think the problem is joe especially for somebody like keith thurman and boxing in general there's a thing called ring rush and you you haven't been in there so long i don't care how much sparring you're doing you you've done or or how many fights you've had to only have two fights in the past six years you're not going to be the same especially coming to the fight opponent like goddamn that caliber yeah of that caliber you know that that's that's shooting for the stars instead of getting some tune up fights before you go into a fight like that and i think that's one of the reasons why he looked the way he did he he was overwhelmed by the time by the time he got past that fourth round and figured out well damn ain't nothing i'm doing is working and when i do when i do try to he lunging and jumping and like

[Joe Johnson]

nothing is working yeah yeah it was

[Chad Ochocinco]

a rap hey hey hey i wonder why such a long layoff was it a health condition that he had to have surgery or something what was it

[Joe Johnson]

uncle ocho i don't know i know i'm not really sure like i said i hadn't heard i hadn't heard from him in a while hell i didn't because people you know last time i heard somebody bring his name what was clarissa talking about she could beat keith thurman too that was the last time i heard somebody mention his name ocho yeah and like you said i don't care what sport you play you get good at said sport doing said sports all that practicing and all that sparring and it's just like track and field you can do all the block starts you want you can do all the conditioning you want you better take your ass to the meet you better go to the diamond league the prefontaine you better go to the drake you better go and get competition against other guys other young ladies gotta run this right here two fights in six years and you come back and fight him n give me a tomato can give me something i can open these give me something i can just peel the top off i ain't fooling with this dude

[Chad Ochocinco]

hey don't waste my damn seventy five watching that come on man yeah i

[Joe Johnson]

need a refund i understand y' all had all them damn fights on there but i need a refund i need a refund because i basically played seventy five for that fight so at least give me forty five back i eat the thirty

[Iso Joe]

i thought it was gonna be a good fight man nah i

[Chad Ochocinco]

didn't not not after i seen buddy and probably after like you thought it

[Joe Johnson]

gonna be a good fight that man come out there and hey and he bow ain't gonna be no good fight

[Iso Joe]

yeah i knew i knew something was wrong because you never get hit with the first shot joe yeah not not at that level huh you never get hit with the first shot because he

[Chad Ochocinco]

got a look y' all see he got to throw them wild punches just to even try to connect so buddy probably already ready for that in order for him to hit fundoza in his head he had to throw something wild

[Joe Johnson]

yeah he got it yeah he got

[Chad Ochocinco]

a jump so once he opened up he just caught him with that left flip lunch boom i said oh yeah it's over with he ain't gonna make it he ain't gonna make it man

[Joe Johnson]

i was like damn and and and and i'm looking at this and i'm like really i was like i'm i'm like when i asked who who who looks worse did izzy or thermal look worse izzy look horrible wait wait izzy for tonight too let that man knock his ass out you get serious wait adesanya is he yes adesanya izzy damn

[Iso Joe]

i'm so i'm so focused on boxing i forgot izzy was fighting joe pfeiffer

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[Joe Johnson]

israel sonya at ufc two hundred seventy one pfeiffer stopped one of the best middleweights in the sport has ever seen the fourth round ground and pound ended adesanya's night at four hundred eighteen in the second round of their main event the second round hell is only three rounds it ain't no it wasn't no title this day put

[Chad Ochocinco]

them powers on that boy man hold

[Iso Joe]

on joe hold on hold on

[Joe Johnson]

i ain't know nothing about this kid standing

[Iso Joe]

up or ground game man that man

[Joe Johnson]

he knocked his ass down and beat the brakes off it

[Iso Joe]

damn i like i like adesanya too man yeah

[Joe Johnson]

the best part about it it was free i'd have been really i'd have really been ticked off if i got one hundred and fifty i'd have called i'd have called dana personally hey dana bro i i need this back bro i ain't finna hold you but i need this back because this was some bull jive

[Iso Joe]

wait was it was it exciting

[Joe Johnson]

at least yeah if you're a fight if you're a pfeiffer fan if you apply for yes it was very exciting he heavy handed ocho he must be

[Iso Joe]

really young then he must be young enough yep young and upcoming i dc

[Joe Johnson]

dc like i think this kid was the a kid i mean this fighter was like he was ranked like fourteenth so now after doing what he he destroyed i mean he walked through him he's twenty nine if he on up there though damn is he i don't know is he ain't want to fight in a while

[Iso Joe]

yep because it let i mean it wasn't i think is

[Joe Johnson]

it the last fight that he won he beat poutine pierre i think that might have been his last fight that

[Iso Joe]

he won i mean him and pereira went back to back right yeah per

[Joe Johnson]

rare beat him and then he called pereira and then he teed off on pierre and knocked them out that might have been the last fight that he won

[Iso Joe]

damn man i like i like

[Joe Johnson]

i like him yeah and and the fake in the fake look this this is why you take your hat off the bones john jones hey even at

[Iso Joe]

his age he different man

[Joe Johnson]

he lost to the plant he got defeated he got he got tko i mean so his he got submitted he got tko'd he got kotko in the second round second round he got submitted he lost the unanimous decision to sean strickland he knocked out pieta so he hadn't won a fight basically in almost two years my goodness no no yeah three years almost three years my bad three years his last his last win was april eighth of twenty twenty three

[Iso Joe]

you know i mean and you know it's funny mma ufc is so much different than boxing as opposed to i mean losses and having losses on your record are are acceptable in in in a sense because the sport is is is is so much different it's so much difficult you know to stay to stay undefeated does that put a a strain on on on people wanting to see him fight even though he's had losses back to back and hasn't won in a

[Joe Johnson]

long time you can lose ocho but it's how you lose and people don't like bro he got beat by he got beat in twenty and twenty five in thirty seconds of the third in the second round he got beat pfeiffer beat him in the second round four minutes he got submitted in the fourth round a unanimous decision now he beat peter in the second round but he i mean and he ain't got no belt so it's only going two three rounds because it's not a title fight yeah no ain't nobody gonna want to see that danny ain't gonna want to see that yeah he he he he's one of the one of the great fighters in the middleweight division right but that's over at least give me something

[Iso Joe]

he's still a draw though no matter

[Joe Johnson]

what even if if it was like volko how you bounce back oh he

[Iso Joe]

nice he ain't bounced back but i'm asking he's still a draw though right because of who he is based on

[Joe Johnson]

the name yeah but but that that's a dana dana is he made the call on that huh yeah i don't think he lets him go he wants to see but i mean he but the thing is is that if you're in the ufc you don't fight no ain't no bombs guys good oh everybody and they hungry and they trying to use you as a stepping stone it looks good on their resume yeah tko is it tko is it submitted is it i i guess i mean it's probably hard to let it go but this for me ocho this ain't a this ain't a sport that you just hang around nah you could get you get hurt in this yeah you get hurt you get you get hurt in in boxing and ufc right you don't

[Iso Joe]

want you don't you don't think you should hang it up should he

[Joe Johnson]

i'm just trying to figure out who you think he gonna beat the fight is getting younger they're getting better they getting stronger you got to realize you can't you're not as fast you're not as strong it the thing is you know what it is about training because the training aspect of it is that when you younger you can train harder more that's how you get better when you're old things eight and you like you know what i can't go as hard tomorrow as i could when i was younger because i could go back to back to back and ocho you could change with intensity back to back to back that's how you got better get older man i need a day or two off them young boys coming they coming yeah that's why they say sports is a young man's game it is

[Iso Joe]

yeah listen unless you play unless you play a team sport where they can hide your weaknesses a little bit boy

[Joe Johnson]

hey look here it's kind of like going to jail when they close that door behind you you for yourself when they close that octagon gate behind you who who the hell you ocho you

[Iso Joe]

are you on your own if you

[Joe Johnson]

want to come out there they got to climb the fish you got to come up out of there on your own they ain't opening the gate same thing in boxing when you go to that square ain't no time out ain't no hey hey let ocho get me for let me let ocho take this

[Iso Joe]

play for me yeah yeah hey joe you hear that ain't gonna ain't gonna be nobody to help you ain't nobody nobody to save you boy what you mean once that once that bell go off boy it's gonna be it's gonna

[Chad Ochocinco]

be hell on wheels though are you you talking about me and you or we just talking about in general and

[Iso Joe]

i'm talking about me on your ass

[Chad Ochocinco]

i thought you had done left that

[Iso Joe]

alone oh i ain't leave it alone

[Joe Johnson]

well you got this is crazy man look who the next big fight we got coming up

[Iso Joe]

wait i mean damn what is the next big fight you

[Chad Ochocinco]

talking about like real hey i got

[Iso Joe]

i got one for you oh jaron ennis boots and xander zayas when they fight man i think june hold on i'm tell you right now i'm gonna

[Joe Johnson]

tell you right now who's at one hundred fifty four you want to see boots in fedora ocho yeah xana zayas

[Chad Ochocinco]

i don't know if i want to

[Iso Joe]

see that they signed the fight in new york and the date oh i don't i don't see the date hold

[Chad Ochocinco]

on

[Joe Johnson]

oh did deontay wilder fight next week ocho signed sealed and delivered damn

[Chad Ochocinco]

for real yeah who he fighting on

[Joe Johnson]

what's this chadora

[Iso Joe]

this would be this is gonna be a good bounce back win for him if if he can

[Chad Ochocinco]

win

[Joe Johnson]

damn did you hear what you

[Chad Ochocinco]

just said bro oh why you look

[Joe Johnson]

like that man did you hear what

[Chad Ochocinco]

you just said what if he could

[Joe Johnson]

win they got some fights coming up on y' all

[Iso Joe]

we got some good ones we got some good ones yeah hey hey but that boots that boots and xander that's gonna be nice you

[Joe Johnson]

hey joe said he don't want to see he don't want to see boots

[Chad Ochocinco]

in fedora no not right now ojo

[Iso Joe]

man booster wash him boy hey i'm

[Chad Ochocinco]

paying big money for boots don't don't get me wrong i'm with boots i'm

[Iso Joe]

just saying man he a washroom door that's a that's a whole different type of skill set

[Joe Johnson]

i don't know i'll pay to see it yeah watching i pay to see it i think ronda rousey fight huh carano what's she doing

[Chad Ochocinco]

what kind of fighting she doing

[Joe Johnson]

oh she coming back not in the ufc it's another one mvp oh they got

[Iso Joe]

their own league huh yep oh so they're trying to compete with dana trying yeah but they got a long way

[Joe Johnson]

to go for that yeah gotta start somewhere gotta take baby steps yeah but yeah this these fights tonight chad i'm sorry i'm sorry

[Iso Joe]

i'm still trying to figure out how izzy lost was it conditioning bad he got he ran out

[Joe Johnson]

of gas hey ojo you ever cut grass yeah if the grass ain't really thick you ain't got to do this right he was running yeah man he ran through izzy oh so he didn't

[Iso Joe]

expect izzy power then i ain't respect it damn

[Joe Johnson]

like action medicine hey anybody ever anybody ever take xlac serpa black draw phenomena that's how that dude went through izzy i was like well damn i mean you gonna put up any

[Iso Joe]

resistance

[Joe Johnson]

nope it was bad ocho that

[Chad Ochocinco]

boxing in the mma different bro

[Joe Johnson]

i

[Iso Joe]

mean i think the the strength of izzy's game is is standing up striking

[Joe Johnson]

not not that guy was a he was a kickboxer too i mean they say this record was like seventy five and four in kickboxing seventy five yes so you know izzy was a kickboxer also this dude is a kickboxer who's much younger much stronger man ocho when you see this see how this man did is it man you go like oh man i don't want to see

[Iso Joe]

that i don't want to see that i don't want to see it just just the fact that he lost it just because my i i envision and i i i see izzy in in a different light with the fight izzy

[Joe Johnson]

got to stand up yes what's that dude what that dude took him down

[Iso Joe]

it was a rap yeah see if

[Joe Johnson]

you know if you notice mma a lot of this these wrestlers are really doing good yeah the wrestlers are kind of taking over and that's what makes jon jones because jon was a wrestler so now he can take you down but he can strike yeah jon jones got an eighty four inch reach he got a reach like a damn seven footer yeah he got elbows he got knees he i mean they say his he don't have power in his hands like that but he got enough to keep you up off him okay but then when he covered them knees and them elbows yeah night night hey hey

[Iso Joe]

hey you you know you know mma a little better than me what made khabib so good i know his ground game was phenomenal that's it i know

[Joe Johnson]

that couldn't get him up off you he was a d he you you getting taken down no matter what period and i was talking to dc he said he said shannon the way these guys train over there yeah it's it's hours on hours because there is they're they're dirt poor they don't have anything and their only way out is this so if you want sheep you want cattle you want this this is how you get it so they throw everything this all they do you saw how once he got i mean if you can if you cannot everybody can fight you know for the most part standing up or if they take somebody down right but if you get taken down can you get up you remember the fight that we saw the other night once that guy took him down to the ground he stayed at a whole max holloway yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that guy took max holloway down olivara oliveira yeah he took him down and holloway really never he got back to his feet one time other than that once once olivera took him down he stayed he stayed in the guard the full guard of the cross guard for the entire rest of the rest of the round yeah so three and a half four minutes that's where he was

[Iso Joe]

you remember how we said that that fight with oliveira max holloway remember how we all said it was born yeah so when khabib fought was khabib fight born since his since his his ground game he was so efficient on the ground were his fights born or was

[Joe Johnson]

it still exciting oh he was he was excited he dumped it i mean he was submission now you got to be careful you saw what he did to conor connor made one hey down he kept taking connor down and connor made one mistake and he choked him out yeah and if you notice when the referee tapped him to let him go he didn't let him go because he had insulted he had insulted his family and his religion oh yeah remember he went over the top rope went over the ring and kick and jumped

[Iso Joe]

in okay i remember seeing that i remember seeing that on espn i remember that so he was dead serious oh

[Joe Johnson]

yeah yeah yeah yeah hey they take their religion serious they take their family serious yeah hey they he was a devout no no no some people you know you know you joking like you know he said some things to floyd and it was all cute and you know connor can sell a fight he's very entertaining he has the gift of gab almost just as good if not better than ali right but he went a little bit too far i'm gonna make him pay for everything that he said i'm gonna make him pay

[Iso Joe]

i like that that's dope hey hey hey joe what's happening hey how you think

[Joe Johnson]

i do again khabib in his last three fights he won by submission he submitted justin gaethje he he submitted poirier he submitted conor well god damn back to back all three yep and connor was first in october no connor was october sixth twenty eighteen poirier september seventh twenty nineteen gaethje october twenty fourth twenty

[Iso Joe]

twenty yeah he never coming back huh

[Joe Johnson]

we probably never know he wasn't he wasn't the same and it basically said his dad was in his corner once

[Iso Joe]

his dad passed that's right pops did

[Joe Johnson]

so now his thing is is to train the next dagestani okay and bring them up yeah but no no oh but see the thing is he he trying to get people up out of there he know he know what he is yeah hey i'm gonna get you on the ground i'm gonna get your ass on the ground keep me off your neck keep me off one of these joints to keep me from tapping your ass out or submitting you i

[Iso Joe]

don't want no part of that boy i don't want no part of that hey joe what's your ground game look

[Joe Johnson]

like oh you didn't hey oh show that man that weapon like one hundred and forty five you can handle him

[Iso Joe]

khabib hold on he doing all that kind of damage and he only one

[Joe Johnson]

hundred forty five yeah you got him

[Iso Joe]

i got i got him huh he

[Chad Ochocinco]

got who hey don't let unc hype

[Joe Johnson]

you up bro hey hey hey unc

[Iso Joe]

you think we can get khabib on the show

[Joe Johnson]

i don't know if we can get khabib we probably can get one of those guys that he's training like islam or somebody like that i don't know how well how good of english that they speak can you do

[Iso Joe]

me a favor what that like so we can this is why we the best show right yeah so before we have on the show we can actually have content where i get in the octagon with them and and we and we spar and do ground game for like one round

[Joe Johnson]

let's try to make it like two minutes because you know rounds are five minutes yeah that's fine

[Iso Joe]

that's fine if i get up i get up but it'd be great content for the show

[Joe Johnson]

hey khabib was was tussling with dc for real yeah dc big though i know he is

[Iso Joe]

i think that'd be fun though i can you know i'm i'm not i get my ass whooped it's fine i get to tell y' all what it's like to be in there with one of

[Joe Johnson]

the best nah that but i i just like i don't know i don't i don't know where eddie goes from here i damn sure don't know where thurman goes from this from here might

[Chad Ochocinco]

be a rap huh yeah you think so yeah he ain't look that good

[Iso Joe]

old joe but who you telling joe i was i was upset i was upset because i was i was excited to see the fight i'm ready i'm i waited to the last minute do i really want to pay this seventy four dollars but it's listen it's keith thurman one time i got to support one of my favorite fighters of all time and he just didn't look like what i was what i'm used to seeing and it had to be you know being off all that time and then you wouldn't come back looking the

[Joe Johnson]

same yeah no hell no who who taking that kind of time off who take it i mean if you think about it ali was in his ali was was a lot younger and he missed those three years he was never the same fighter you when when when when when vietnam happened and he missed those three years he couldn't fight anywhere right he wasn't the same yeah you you robbed a man of three years of his prime minister so i don't

[Iso Joe]

know

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[Joe Johnson]

what they thought was gonna happen because i think ali won he won the goal in sixty and sixty in rome so he had to be what eighteen nineteen vietnam hammock so seventy so he missed three years so basically twenty seven twenty eight twenty nine thirty something like that

[Iso Joe]

you know you know what's crazy uncle joe what's that no matter how great you are in the sport it's amazing how with time off whether it be a year two years or three years how different you look once you go back into that sport yeah no matter

[Joe Johnson]

how long you've done it you right

[Iso Joe]

man but hold on unc well how the hell jordan what jordan look like joe in your comparison because y' all would be better better suited to answer this than me when jordan left and went and played baseball how close did he look to the old jordan before

[Joe Johnson]

he left he when he first got back he wasn't even he wasn't that he dropped that double nickel in the garden but he wasn't close they steal the ball he's fallen he needed to get his legs up under him yeah once he got his legs up under him yeah even that even that year ninety six ninety seven ninety eight he wasn't that jordan from eighty four to ninety one that jordan that jordan yes

[Chad Ochocinco]

but but but he put the time in when it came to yes because he knew he wasn't in basketball shape when he came back ocho correct what was it about mid season on probably

[Joe Johnson]

yeah i think they had like twenty one games left joe yeah yeah yeah

[Chad Ochocinco]

so when he came back came back

[Joe Johnson]

in the middle of the season yes

[Chad Ochocinco]

yeah right like not not soon before the playoffs started ocho right he came

[Joe Johnson]

back he sent a text says i'm back he sent a fax said i'm

[Chad Ochocinco]

back yeah and they lost that's when they lost to penny and shaq orlando magic okay they had horace grant on his on eighteen and horace grant was you know putting it in his face next thing you know he right back at it the whole summer ocho he came back with avengers partner yeah cause

[Joe Johnson]

if you remember nick anderson said forty

[Chad Ochocinco]

five ain't twenty twenty three why he said yeah he said that in the paper like yeah ocho he took that forty five off and put that twenty

[Joe Johnson]

three it was over he he came up out that forty five and he

[Iso Joe]

looked he went back to looking like twenty three again they did he he

[Joe Johnson]

just wasn't as athletic as he was in eighty from eighty when he came in as a rookie and when he won that first and when he won that that that that those first championships yeah you look at jordan from eight man you had to see it hey hey you had you had you had you had to see it right you just had to see it that first run that he had that first three peak

[Chad Ochocinco]

he wasn't playing he wasn't nothing nice

[Joe Johnson]

it's ridiculous it was ridiculous it was just i mean it just it was just off yeah it was just ah i i saw i saw him in ninety seven and ninety eight in person and he was he was still jordan now don't get me wrong he was still jordan he still could give you forty but he wasn't as athletic he wasn't i mean early in his career he could take the ball a he'd have the ball like this and just hang in the air yeah he was doing he was doing stuff like that i be like bro i mean he whipping the ball up on it doing stuff like this he got the ball cuz he had ginormous hand he got the ball rolling around hit like a softball in his hand he doing all this right here yeah he got the ball behind his back man that

[Chad Ochocinco]

dude hey ojo with all that talent he had though nobody could outwork him bro yeah and that's that's what made him special a lot of people talk about all the stuff he did on the court but i'm talking about the shape that he was always in i'm talking about how he stayed in the weight room like that gets overlooked because he was so talented yep but man he wanted to be great now he was willing to do whatever it took

[Joe Johnson]

but you know hey joe just think about if he'd put down if instead of smoking five cigars a day he'd have just had one and he could have left that brown liquor alone he about he might he bought an average faulted back then you ain't lying boy you ain't lying hey he like hey he like his cigars always have it i think he might draw he on the white now you know what i'm saying i think he might be on he might be on he might be on the tequila or the vodka g i think he'll cut back on some

[Chad Ochocinco]

of that brown liquor yeah yeah yeah man listen i think the most one of the most impressive things they say the man used to go play eighteen he would of golf bro yeah on a game day ojo yep game day

[Joe Johnson]

yeah he would yeah he would go play golf yep that probably you on

[Chad Ochocinco]

your feet you know how much you're on your feet feet when you golfing

[Joe Johnson]

yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah because you know what he taking somebody money cause he don't do nothing for free he gambling now yeah absolutely absolutely absolutely he don't he doesn't do anything he ain't shooting no pool he ain't playing no table tennis he ain't playing no golf cards he love cards he love he loves cards yeah yeah yeah guts and blu ray is are his games let's go get him huh if you get what

[Iso Joe]

let's call him out huh no we hey we nightcap but we don't

[Joe Johnson]

spare nobody no man man that man be playing twenty five fifty seventy five zero zero zero a hand we got

[Iso Joe]

it we got joe we got joe

[Chad Ochocinco]

we got joe for what got joe

[Iso Joe]

for what gonna put up the money

[Joe Johnson]

for what the the play jordan man play what we playing not boo hey

[Iso Joe]

hey jordan if you see this if you want smoke with nightcap holl no

[Joe Johnson]

i we don't want no smoke hey

[Chad Ochocinco]

how much we got to bring to the table bro what we got to

[Joe Johnson]

bring probably knowing him probably quarter of

[Chad Ochocinco]

a million in cash n tell him tell him tell him i'mma tell him

[Joe Johnson]

we come quarter of a million what

[Chad Ochocinco]

hey we all come to the table

[Joe Johnson]

in the play to play him we all come and his buddies oatmeal hey

[Iso Joe]

all right how about we we take all right how about this we bring

[Joe Johnson]

a hundred thousand a piece yeah a hundred thousand and once you lose ain't like you can sit around now just when you lose you got to leave

[Iso Joe]

what you mean leave we gotta leave

[Joe Johnson]

you can't ain't no sitting around in the hotel room ain't no hey man i'm gonna get me a drink no you got to go hey hey hey

[Iso Joe]

we hey we could put jordan in this place huh let's challenge i can't let you hey joe what you want to do joe you want to go

[Chad Ochocinco]

get him you you want double team

[Iso Joe]

mojo let's get him joe come on let's get him you got op i

[Chad Ochocinco]

got jordan hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on i thought we were jumping jordan coming there because

[Iso Joe]

i mean i want to be fair and we we gonna play we play spades whatever whatever they want to do

[Joe Johnson]

nah jordan i don't think he played no spades jordan play guts and boo

[Iso Joe]

ray okay well tell jordan make it

[Joe Johnson]

light on yourself huh nah i'm good i don't want to play he already tried to get me to play i said you're not going to get my

[Chad Ochocinco]

house cause he ain't hey look look

[Joe Johnson]

cause he ain't got hey look to

[Chad Ochocinco]

get my house hey cause playing boo ray if you don't really care for real about the money that's out there you will get booed on purpose just so you can put up the pot

[Joe Johnson]

and then raise the problem yes i get somebody mess around and get hit on the edge listen i've seen pots get up to seventy fifty and seventy five thousand dollars no man man listen

[Chad Ochocinco]

i seen dudes getting off the plane on each other one hundred fifty k yes one hundred seventy five k yeah

[Iso Joe]

hold on on the plane joe on

[Chad Ochocinco]

the plane we can't be friends and teammates no more you if i owe you that that amount of money that's

[Joe Johnson]

why mike mike wanted to cut us out from gambling he says because if you lose twenty five you lose fifty thousand dollars your mind is not on the game your mind is on the money that you lost hey he right

[Chad Ochocinco]

hey hey ojo during the game it could be fourth quarter ten minutes left you you it'll be somebody on the bench i'm a boy i can't wait till we get on this plane so i can get that damn money

[Joe Johnson]

look man we coming i'm trying to think hold on where we coming back from japan man burger took fifty zero zero zero off a coach took him two years to pay him off yeah you

[Iso Joe]

mean like a head a coach yep

[Joe Johnson]

hey coach i ain't gonna call i ain't gonna call his name but yep

[Chad Ochocinco]

hey i'm a guy yeah he made

[Iso Joe]

him pay hell yeah he had to

[Joe Johnson]

pay him off in two years hey even burger wasn't even on the team no more and he's still he's still sending burger money damn y' all ain't

[Chad Ochocinco]

do deals deal look so here's the thing when i say deals it's like if if all if we all playing and i hit unc for twenty k he owe me twenty k okay if i say unc man you just pay me pay me fifteen and we good you know what i'm saying but you got to pay this in a you know certain amount timely manner yes you can't just keep getting on these flights

[Joe Johnson]

you owe me twenty k oh yeah

[Chad Ochocinco]

you just continue to play now we wasn't having none of that what the

[Joe Johnson]

thing is is that what i hate is dude want to gamble like hey charlotte borrow some money okay i give him five grand right bro and then you want to try to fade me you not fit to fade me with my money you better get your damn ass up from the you better get somebody else money how you gonna pay me with my money hey hey no joe i would like look like me and burns would play i would i would you know hey i rolling dice i lick burns for three thousand he good yeah i ain't i ain't never took no money from him we playing spades we good poker we good i don't take no money from him everybody else now i did hit a guy i took a a seventy chevelle off a guy oh he had just had it refurbished yeah and so i say you know what man man you can't go home and tell your wife that you lost your car that you spent this money on i said give me ten grand and we'll call it a d we call it yeah yeah you

[Iso Joe]

ain't take the car i didn't take

[Joe Johnson]

the car i didn't take the car

[Iso Joe]

hey joe tell me about tell me about them dudes betting one hundred owing somebody one hundred fifty seven one hundred seventy five zero zero zero on the

[Chad Ochocinco]

plane they really paid man listen let me tell you something i'm gonna tell you the team i was on yeah

[Iso Joe]

don't say no name though i'm just

[Chad Ochocinco]

i was i was playing with the houston rockets yes sir yeah this two thousand what eighteen seventeen something like that yeah and uncle ocho i never seen nothing like it on the plane bro i never seen nothing like first off you get on the plane yeah they big boy gambling and i like to play blue ray but when i got to the rockets i'm like damn what's the ante up they like the ante like it's a thousand dollars just to start off oh what a thousand listen listen listen it's a thousand dollars and that's just a start off now when we start when the plane start to descend it go up it go up to like two grand three grand next thing you know man them folk playing five thousand dollars a hand man i told him now i'm good i'm gonna just watch i'm gonna just watch movie

[Joe Johnson]

but you know you lose the most money play it in between you play in between joe yeah now you talk about fifty seventy five zero zero zero go quick yeah yeah yeah because you get an ace ace oh high you get another ace it's automatically low and then the ace come again and hit on the edges you gotta double what's in the pot yes sir so what's in the pot is ten thousand you gotta put twenty thousand not a pot thirty thousand just like that hey just like that lickety split hey they in

[Chad Ochocinco]

between serious boy i'm telling you oh

[Joe Johnson]

oh i'm telling you man hey we

[Chad Ochocinco]

should do it with shots we should do it with shots you know back back in the day where i used to have a real good time you know we we we have a little shindig or something we have shots like you know we play in between for shots you know what i mean so i know that that that that game there can get dangerous partner it it

[Joe Johnson]

it absolutely you got to be careful cause you lose some friendships because hey i'm telling you man hey hey hold

[Chad Ochocinco]

up where any of the gambling you will lose some friendship that's why i say man listen it's got to be a limit to some of this you feel what i'm saying yes you get

[Joe Johnson]

on them teams who ain't got no

[Chad Ochocinco]

limits to what they'll spend or what

[Joe Johnson]

they willingly lose boy please on the subo trip we playing hey guys putting six eight super bowl tickets in to cover debts yeah absolutely that's why i say when you start playing like that hey money out of sight cause a

[Chad Ochocinco]

thing yes sir hey don't worry about

[Iso Joe]

it hey uncle joe what's that i didn't already put the message out already so i mean we listen i need

[Joe Johnson]

y' all hey i don't want no part of that hey i know how i'm telling you it's fine he gonna bet enough to make you uncomfortable see and when it's cash it's not like see like in the casino those chips they're chips when you see stacks and stacks of of hundred dollar bills so you see ten twenty thirty forty fifty sixty seventy a hundred thousand dollars stacked there you can't look at that as anything but money

[Iso Joe]

hey michael michael jordan charles oakley y' all come see me in iso huh make it light on

[Chad Ochocinco]

yourself whatever you want hey we'll definitely get their ass or some talk some uno or something

[Joe Johnson]

oka big time gamble too because like me and oak me and oak that's how i actually met jordan through through through oak yeah oak and i used to work out together yeah so he'd be at the track running anytime he come to town my homeboy he would call my homeboy say hey let's sharp know i'm in town okay i'm gonna meet him up there at houston oh joe you remember that houston used to be on lennox road yes sir so i would always i would always meet him up there at that houston then they closed that one down we would go down to the one on on peace street but he would i would always be like man you ought to come you know you ought to come and gamble so nah oak i ain't gonna do that man

[Chad Ochocinco]

i hung out with oak and mj one time here in atlanta we playing a softball look we played a softball game against jermaine dupree he had a softball team so jordan came down here he put together a softball team and i played on it we played the game we won the game and then we went out that night well they parted different man you do party different

[Joe Johnson]

they just see oak don't chilled out now cause he don't drink he don't he don't really drink like he used to and it's a good thing cause boy look here y' all heard the stories whatever you heard about oakley playing basketball it is one thousand percent true

[Chad Ochocinco]

oh it almost went down that night in the spot in the club it

[Joe Johnson]

almost one thousand percent what no what's what's more than a thousand it's a million percent for sure he did not bull jive i am so glad he turned i'm so glad oh got married and turned his life around he ain't one to play with so all that time i mean oh went for bad no oak was bad they ain't playing with oh yeah ain't nobody play with oak he like and i'm like bro lord have mercy i'm like whoo

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i

[Joe Johnson]

said whoa hey i ain't come to tussle bad damn if something go down i got to go i got to go with him cause then cause if you don't go with him when he get out he gonna fight you go yeah gonna fight you that's how old kills man i say man i am so glad when that man they told me that man he got married yeah

[Iso Joe]

hey hey hey uncle joe think about this right we already started it right we got nightcap outside right yeah we did bowling we did the frisbee toss we did cornhole nightcap nightcap outside special edition unc iso and joe versus oakley jordan and rodman and what boo ray oh hell no i mean whatever whatever they want to play they can make it lighter on themselves us three versus them three

[Joe Johnson]

i'm not playing look here man ocho i'm telling you you don't understand how look that little five that little five and twenty five little hundred dollar stuff that we be gambling oh

[Chad Ochocinco]

i'm telling you man it got to be a limit we i mean the man he he'll be hey hold on

[Iso Joe]

hey joe i don't like talking joe

[Joe Johnson]

but you know how that man is

[Iso Joe]

hey hey joe joe i'm talking like we ain't got it like that though

[Joe Johnson]

that's right i ain't got it like that

[Iso Joe]

yeah we do i ain't got it like that hey joe any emergency situations for a special occasion like this if we want to go get it we can go get it we just that we choose not to do it because that's not what we do but

[Joe Johnson]

i got grandkids i'm trying to leave a little something for my grandkids oo okay my bad you need you need that to caught me when i was playing when i was playing yeah i probably would have i probably would have jumped out there for one hundred k

[Iso Joe]

yeah not now i tell you what i tell you what i loan you a hundred and go at them boys

[Chad Ochocinco]

huh you hear me that man ain't paid you five thousand nine hundred how in hell he gonna hold you long

[Iso Joe]

is an emergency fun joe the man glad you break the glass in case

[Joe Johnson]

of emergency i'm good i i ain't no emergency i'm just go hey i'm will see oak when i go to atlanta i see him hey let's go grab a bite to eat reminisce that's it that's all i want to do

[Iso Joe]

it's too late because i already said it so people gonna take the clip and they gonna send it to oak and they gonna send it to jordan

[Joe Johnson]

bro o came in town i had just got the the new seven hundred sixty i had the first i had the first one in the southeast i just got it okay i think i had like five hundred miles on the car my homeboy jimbo told oak i had the car he wanted one but he was going he was on the wait list yeah right so he was at the four seasons i drove the car up there he looked at it man i like this he go upstairs and come back down he go upstairs said wait a minute he goes upstairs and come back downstairs how much he had with him he gave me one hundred and thirty zero zero zero cash so i said he said i'm gonna buy it i like okay he said i said well what the hell am i i gotta get home he said you were driving home i mean it ain't no i could have i don't want home he gave one hundred thirty zero zero zero cash he said all he said hey he said do me a favor leave the insurance i said cool no problem you slowed on the car he said hey hey i got everything taken care of you can you know cancel the insurance i canceled insurance that was it he bought the car

[Iso Joe]

right there on the spot right there

[Joe Johnson]

on the spot cause my homeboy jimbo told him that i had it so he told hey oak say he wanted to see the car i thought he just wanted to see what it looked like to see if he wanted one yeah i ain't know he wanted to buy it so i drove i drove because it's right up the street i'm on peachtree done woody the four seasons i think it's the carlisle or something yeah yeah yeah it's right there it's right there on lennox road in peach street yeah so it's a mile from the house i drove up there hey he looked at it he walking around he looked at it he go upstairs to come back down he gave me a paper bag i said man what's this this one hundred thirty zero zero zero i said okay i said well how the hell i'm gonna get home he said i'm gonna take you home hell i know where you stay i

[Iso Joe]

like hey that's that's a big boy

[Joe Johnson]

move right there huh hey i drove home i got out of the car he said hey man do me a favor he said just leave the insurance until until until tuesday cause he was going i think where he from he from mississippi alabama he from what he i think he from like he might be from i think he might be from alabama mississippi somewhere he was and he was going home to see see some family members that was it i had to call i think i had to call a month maybe a month maybe a month i think i barely had five hundred i don't even know if i had five hundred miles i think i had like two hundred fifty three hundred okay that was it we

[Iso Joe]

gonna show him though we're gonna show no we're not hey joe okay joe unc out me and you joe i

[Chad Ochocinco]

got you i'm with you bro yeah

[Iso Joe]

me hey hey joe me and you we gonna show michael jordan and oakley you know who the big boys is

[Joe Johnson]

huh okay y' all go right ahead

[Chad Ochocinco]

yeah hey but i need i need unc to be there though hey somebody

[Iso Joe]

somebody gotta film it

[Chad Ochocinco]

man ain't got no he really ain't got no credibility for me to even be rocking with it for real for me to even be rocking with him you know that's that's a big step you know yeah

[Iso Joe]

yeah yeah hey hey joe hey joe we family not joke you hear me

[Chad Ochocinco]

now we got once we get our fade out the way we can get back to being family right now it's very disruptive in the family you know but but but but but the fact that we work together you know i i you know i have to be

[Iso Joe]

you know let's see hey joe we deeper than work joe we this deeper than work you hear me hey man

[Joe Johnson]

let me tell you something man the one thing oak don't play with is money now hey he good hey he ain't he ain't as rowdy as he used to be but right don't play with it now

[Chad Ochocinco]

you know why i'm saying that cause he know you the type to come in there with two three hundred bills on on top of your bankroll with a bunch of hell

[Iso Joe]

no hey hey joe hey listen joe man i fold oakley up man don't play i fold oakley like a lawn

[Joe Johnson]

chair that hey hey if you notice don't nobody call oakley out i've been doing it i met okie what ninety three so damn near thirty thirty three years yeah he don't play like that

[Chad Ochocinco]

man

[Joe Johnson]

but like i said i'm glad he got married ocho look at the look at the graphic the graphics teams did oh this is from discourse can

[Chad Ochocinco]

you see look at there oh man what you mean what you mean who

[Iso Joe]

was that hey why hey why every time the gravity team makes something got me getting punched in the mouth man

[Chad Ochocinco]

they ain't crazy a fan made that

[Joe Johnson]

one look at the other one joe look at the other one yeah that's

[Chad Ochocinco]

what i'm talking about yeah yeah why he playing why that man playing with my money and my time homie yeah i got to get that get back

[Iso Joe]

but one thing one thing about it boy when i step inside that right there what is the ring or the octagon ain't none of that happening joe

[Joe Johnson]

ain't none of that hey ocho you hear the story about tyrone hill oh

[Iso Joe]

the tyrone that played for the pacers

[Joe Johnson]

yeah and the sixers and the six yeah yeah yeah yeah and what's the the the tar heel the d the uh the port point guard mcginnis yeah

[Chad Ochocinco]

yeah yeah he got some there's some

[Joe Johnson]

stories out there oh oak lend him some money and he was dodging oak and see back then the shooter rounds you might be still shooting in the

[Chad Ochocinco]

other team coming in yeah yeah yeah

[Iso Joe]

what he did to him

[Joe Johnson]

well the first time that he did he sent him some flowers but had to he had the ball boy to send some flowers over there

[Chad Ochocinco]

oh joe car he

[Joe Johnson]

got sick all of a sudden he didn't play that night but don't caught

[Iso Joe]

up with him this sound like some

[Joe Johnson]

mafia type stuff yeah yeah oh used to be he used to be he used to be on that type of

[Chad Ochocinco]

time hey hey what did the five hands what what did the five fingers

[Joe Johnson]

say to the face hey joey slapped him hey ojo that's that's what he known for

[Iso Joe]

why y' all got me y' all got me talking talking trash

[Joe Johnson]

to somebody like that see you you

[Chad Ochocinco]

go to bargain up all these trees now you go to copper play like that ain't nobody trying to hear all

[Iso Joe]

that all right well you know what i'm barking up tree because we gonna cut it down how about that

[Joe Johnson]

hey hey dude hey over that somebody house and jeff was talking all that why are you over there yeah yeah yeah okay okay walked until they practice they at shoot around at the shoot around

[Iso Joe]

wow ain't nobody do nothing to him

[Chad Ochocinco]

what they gonna do man look here you would have helped him if they

[Joe Johnson]

i know i've seen him actually i'd like come on oh we gotta go we got to go we got to go but that hey oak all muscle oh six eight two hundred sixty five two hundred seventy all muscle ain't no fat on him he still work out like that every like four hundred pounds every morning as hell hey hold on

[Chad Ochocinco]

hold on y' all know he he coached in the big three for quite some time so i got a chance to play against some of his teams but in the hotels we all typically stay in the same hotel yeah every morning if i'm up i don't care if five six o' clock in the weight room in the morning i promise you you're gonna see okay now you're gonna see oak in there up he up early ocho he in the weight room every morning i'm telling you and it's the weekend so i know during

[Joe Johnson]

the week he getting it yeah he man we run track when we was on that track oak was out there every morning every morning that the football player was out there and he you know he was out there with us yeah he occasionally come he would occasionally come lift weights but you know obviously he ain't he ain't trying to get he ain't trying to get strong to mess up his shot but no hey

[Iso Joe]

hey joe hey i like these stories bro i like i like these little folk tales man i like these bro they feel good i can't i can't wait to see hope now yeah yeah i can't wait to see him now

[Chad Ochocinco]

huh all right hey hey isaiah thomas

[Iso Joe]

hey oh put it on the table baby what you trying to do huh

[Chad Ochocinco]

what what game you playing what game

[Joe Johnson]

we playing i mean i ain't playing no cards i ain't playing nothing with

[Iso Joe]

money hey hey joe me and you joe we gonna take them boys on man we gonna show them who boss

[Joe Johnson]

you hear me leave that alone hey

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