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ISO Joe Johnson
Damn well now.
Joe Johnson
Damn well now. Austin shot back. You're the luckiest basketball player that I've ever seen. You were drafted to a franchise with hall of Fame office, hall of Fame coach and the greatest shooter of all time, perhaps the top five. Another shooter. A Hall of Famer, the Swiss Army Knife himself. Another hall of Famer. Not to mention one of the most lethal scores of all time, arguably top 10 player of all time. And and Kevin Durant, the same guy you chased off because of your mouth. You talk too much. You are a backpack jump shooter. You're the guy everyone leaves open. No one guards you. Then hours and hours of film of you being left open talking about Steve Kerr handed your career. Steve Kerr made your career, Joe. God, where are you on this?
ISO Joe Johnson
Damn, man, I I hate the back and forth like this, you know. But hell, both of them may have a point to some degree, an oo, you know. But I think Austin river, he does get a lot of flack behind that contract he got when he was with the Clippers because Doc was. Doc was the head coach. And yes, I do think Draymond benefited from playing with Clay and Steph. Hell, I think everybody, you know, kind of understands that. He seen a niche, he's seen a role that he could take. And I mean, yeah, he played it to the best of his ability, bro. He started his role. I don't think I wouldn't slight one or the other. I thought both of them. I mean, obviously, Draymond being a Hall of Famer, but I think Austin had a decent career, bro. I thought he had a decent career.
Joe Johnson
He played 11 years. Yeah, everybody gonna go to the hall of Fame. Everybody's not gonna be an all NBA player. Everybody's not gonna be an all Star. Everybody's not gonna win awards. We understand that. Somebody. Some guys are going to have better careers. It's all about the situation that you end up in. Now, some guys, you take a. A prime time or Lawrence Taylor, you talk, you take a Jerry Rice, you take a. A Randy Moss. There are some guys, it doesn't matter where you put them. They're going to be what they are.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
Joe Johnson
Some guys. Shannon Sharp has to go to the right situation, take advantage of that situation. And.
ISO Joe Johnson
But, but when you look at it, though, look, look. Look at this. They arguing or they going back and forth. Like both guys were elite. Meaning when I say elite, hell, it's only 450 guys in the NBA, uncle. Yeah. You know, that opportunity, that's for the 1 percenters, bro. the end of the day, they both 1 percenters. Like, I, I, I. I don't understand the back and forth for the, you know, bickering about whose career is what. But you're right. Hell, everybody ain't gonna win no title. Everybody ain't gonna be no all Star. But the role that you get on a team, man, play that to the
Joe Johnson
T. And I'm trying to. So I'm just trying to figure out. Draymond said he could have had a bigger role at the expense of who. So when Katie's there, you're gonna have a big offensive role with kd, Clay and Stephen. Okay, when did. When you were there with just Stephen, Clay. And I said this, I said, when Steph suffered or had a lot of ankle injuries early in his career, that was your opportunity.
ISO Joe Johnson
But look, though, think about it. If Draymond is a score that don't mesh with Clay and Steph, Steph, it doesn't, bro. You can't have five guys out there who think they finna get 20 plus points a night. It don't work like that. Somebody has a sacrifice and play another role and play that to the tee. Yeah, that would be nice. Where you play, where you have great offensive outputs versus, you know, but for the most part, man, we didn't need. We need you to playmate. We need you to be an emotional
Joe Johnson
leader to do exactly what you did.
ISO Joe Johnson
It, bro. That's all they needed. They got four titles out of that. Yeah, damn.
Joe Johnson
But it. But you. You. It's a situation sometimes, Ocho, and you know this. In our sport, sometimes even when we have a lot, we think we. We should have had more.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, man.
Joe Johnson
Oh, you're probably thinking, man, look, if I could have just had Carson my first couple years, I'd had, like, don't get TJ right away. That means I'd been by myself. They'd have had to throw me 130, 140 targets a game. That's about 100 catches a season, man. I could have had me a B. So Instead of having 765, now I got a thousand catches. Instead of having 11, 000 yards, now I got 14, 000 yards. Instead of having 67, 68 touchdowns, now I got 90. Yeah, but everybody ain't meant to have a thousand catches at the receiver position. Everybody ain't meant to have. I'm like.
ISO Joe Johnson
So.
Joe Johnson
I'm like. But, But. But the question is. Okay, let's just say, for the sake of argument, guys, Draymond is right. He could have had a bigger role in scoring. You still think they win four championships and Draymond scoring more and doing less of what he already does? Because I don't see him being. Being. Being. Be able to score. Now all of a sudden, he's giving us 14 points a game.
Chad Ochocinco
Right.
Joe Johnson
And still be able to do what he's doing. Do you think so? Do they win those four championships and if Draymond has a bigger role in the offense?
ISO Joe Johnson
I don't think so, man. I. I think.
Chad Ochocinco
You don't think. You don't think so?
ISO Joe Johnson
No, no. What they needed what he brought, Ojo. They needed that, bro. They. They needed him to lock in, be a hell of a defender, be that guy, you know, who we could rally around if things weren't going right. Yeah, he may. He may jump out there and get him a technical foul, you know, to kind of try to turn the ties of the game, things like that. That emotional leader, they needed that. He was the only one who could play that role. Steph can't play that. Couldn't Play that role.
Joe Johnson
They could.
ISO Joe Johnson
They can't. See, he couldn't play Clay and Steph role, and hell, they couldn't play his. Because I'm g. Tell you something, it was a lot of times when Draymond Green wasn't playing you, you could. It was noticeable. It was noticeable.
Chad Ochocinco
Right.
ISO Joe Johnson
You know, it's not a lot of chat out there on the court. You know what I mean? And I think, you know, that that hurt the warriors to some degree. They need. They needed him to win, bro.
Chad Ochocinco
You think about how good they were, right?
Joe Johnson
Yes.
Chad Ochocinco
Before Clay got there. I'm talking about Clay before Kevin got there.
Joe Johnson
Offensively, well, I think Clay instead. Clay and Draymond came at the same time. Clay was the first round pick and Draymond was the second round pick, if I'm not mistaken.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, but I'm just saying, even with hypothetically speaking, when Draymond was that defensive prowess in. He wasn't an offensive juggernaut. And hypothetically speaking, if he was, they would still win because he's just adding to what they already do. Well.
Joe Johnson
Right.
Chad Ochocinco
You know, I mean, just. It just. It's not his game anyway. But just. Just. Just the thought of, you got. Clay could score, you got goddamn Stephen score, then you got the centerpiece who's running the offense, and then he. He giving you that. That. That different mentality defensively, too, and he giving you points. I mean, that's. That's.
Joe Johnson
That's me personally. I think the thing is they learned early on, well, he might not be able to score. See, I don't want you to. Don't tell me what you can't do. Tell me what you can do. I can rebound. I can defend. I can run your offense, right? Okay, Dennis Rodman, he can play hell of a defense. He can rebound the basketball, son. Anything you give us, we gladly. Hear me. Point total, right? We know you're going to give us somewhere between 15 and 20 rebounds on a nightly basis. Yeah, we know you're gonna hustle and play your ass off. So instead of. They found out what Draymond could do extremely well. And not like, well, man, if we got. If we could get him to do this and get him to do that,
ISO Joe Johnson
because what that energy and effort. Okay, Ocho, y' all know this. That's a constant, bro. You can do that every damn night.
Joe Johnson
Yes.
ISO Joe Johnson
You ain't gotta have no off nights with that. As far as, you know, offensively, shooters, hell, sometimes you make shots, sometimes you miss them. But that guy who brings that emotional edge every night we gonna win more times than not with him.
Joe Johnson
And. And. And the thing is that Draymond, the role you served made you a couple hundred, maybe a quarter of a billion dollars when it's all said and done. The role you've served.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Four championships, two gold medals, and you're gonna have a. A jacket one day. Yep. In Springfield, Massachusetts.
Chad Ochocinco
Well, maybe it wasn't meant for him to be a score then.
Joe Johnson
Hey, I'm sure there are a lot of people that would like to trade places with Draymond Green.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, I'm sure some out there.
Joe Johnson
He won at an extremely high clip. He got compensated. He won championships. And he's going to. It's not like. You know what, you know what? Let's see. I didn't win. You won. Well, I ain't win no championships. You got four. You definite player of the year. You've been an all NBA player. You've been an all star. Two gold medals as a second round pick. Who had this? Who had all of these on Draymond. On Draymond greens card. The guy in the second round, he's gonna be a four time champion. He's gonna be defensive player of the year. He's gonna get two gold medals, he's gonna be an all NBA player, He's gonna be an all star, and eventually he's gonna end up in the hall of Fame. Who had that for a second round pick?
ISO Joe Johnson
Hell, I don't know. He might be the only one. Okay. Ojo might be. He might be the only one.
Joe Johnson
Hey, and he know it's like Jokic, who had. Who had this career for Jokic. They thought so much of Jokic when he was getting drafted, they cut to a Taco Bell commercial. That's how much they thought of him.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, but you know what? Joker's first couple years in the league, he wasn't. He wasn't nothing like this here.
Joe Johnson
Nothing.
Chad Ochocinco
Quiet.
Joe Johnson
But you. No, no, no. But you remember Nurkic was together. They got up off Nurkic.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, they got up off Nurkic. Yeah.
Joe Johnson
And then now they said, okay, go do what you. And they're like, hold on. You've been hiding all this. You've been sitting on this.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, listen, y.
Joe Johnson
Hold on. Who knew he. Who knew he could do this? Because if you knew he would do this. And we've been playing Nurkic, you fire.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, look, don't let Draymond fool y'.
Joe Johnson
All.
ISO Joe Johnson
He understand that his words carry weight. He knows that. He understands this. The success that he's had in the NBA. And you Know, he understand that his opinion is valuable in, in, in. In that aspect. That's why you see him on his podcast and he, you know, he. He lets you know how he feel.
Chad Ochocinco
I like it.
Joe Johnson
And this is his opinion. And I'm not here to say his opinion is wrong, but it's hard for me to see him in any. The question is he goes and be a score at any other team. What's his. What's his career looking like? Because I'm a firm believer when you're not that Steph Curry, you're not that LeBron and Kobe and Mike Larry. Magic. One of those type of guys.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Situations where you go back.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe Johnson
There's some players that supersede. They can be anywhere. Magic Johnson could have went anywhere. He gonna be Magic Johnson. They're gonna win. Labor could win anywhere. There are certain players that they had great careers, but they had to go to the right situation.
ISO Joe Johnson
Right? Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Draymond, you and I, one of those guys. It is what it is. I. I ain't got. Hey. It is what it is. I went to a team, only two teams. I was one of three teams had it the command. Washington, the Chargers and the Broncos ran the H back position. I went to one of the three teams that had an H back. All the tight ends got hurt during the season. I'm playing H Mac at 207, 209 pounds. Draymond went to a situation, tremendous IQ. He understood situations. He could rebound the basketball, he could defend at an elite clip. And guess what? Look at the connection that he and Steph has.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Hey, he'll get the ball. Hey, set the pick, leave the ball right there. Still come off the pick. Let him fly.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
He get the rebound. No, Steph gonna reset Stephan to reset the corner. Don't worry about it. I'm looking over there, passing behind his back. Here comes Steph in the corner.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah. He mastered that. He mastered how to play with Stephen. How to maximize. How to maximize his potential. Playing with stuff, meaning getting stuff off, Making sure he getting easy three pointers, making sure he coming off these hard ass screens. I'm sitting so I can get him wide open because ain't nobody guarding me. He mastered that.
Joe Johnson
Ain't a whole lot of guys think about it. In the history of the game, guys that play like that. Reggie Miller move without the ball. Ray Allen move without the ball. Rip Hamilton move without the ball. And now you got Stephen Clay. You play with the five guys. You play with two of the five that played without the ball they ran and you set picks for them.
ISO Joe Johnson
Boys did it at elite level.
Joe Johnson
Yes. So what. So what if you play with a team that don't run guys off picks, right?
Chad Ochocinco
You. You. You better have a. You better have tools in your toolbox.
ISO Joe Johnson
You better be getting a thousand jump shots a day.
Joe Johnson
So that's. That's the thing. I. Look, Dre, you got an unbelievable career, bro. I can see if you had an injury and you said, you know what, Joe? Steph is probably. Guy said, man, just imagine how many points I could have had if these ankle injuries didn't creep up on me and caused me to miss so much time. And, you know, I missed a season with a torn. With a torn what? He dislocated his elbow. He broke his wrist. He broke his wrist, man, I got 20 plus thousand points, but where would I be? That situation is normal. It's hard for me to imagine that Steph's like, man, yeah, I read off all he picked, but I could have did so much more. Yeah, I could have been ISO play. I could have been with James Harden. I could be with Luca. Draymond. You went to the perfect. You could not have landed in a better situation. I agree. And think about it, Steve Kirkus, think about what. What. What you were doing before Steve got there. I don't think people understand that. Dan drafted me, put me in a situation. Boom. Numbers here. Wade Phillips came, brought Jim Foster. Rest Jim Foster soul took me here. Then Mike comes in with the west coast, and I go to a whole different level each step. Yeah, you got to a level. I'm not so sure that they. That they could have. That you would have gotten to that level without Steve Curry and without that system with those two Splash brothers.
ISO Joe Johnson
I agree.
Joe Johnson
It doesn't diminish you. You're an integral part. I don't think they win those championships without you. As great as they shot the ball, they're not winning without Draymond. He was the heartbeat of the team. Was he the best player? No, he was never the best player, but he was the most important.
ISO Joe Johnson
I agree.
Joe Johnson
Because he did all the grunt work. He did all the dirty work, all the rebounding, all the enforcing.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, he did all that.
Joe Johnson
All the hard screens.
ISO Joe Johnson
And I think Kurt the one really put the ball in his hands because he took the ball out of Steph Curry's hands. This one, when Steve Kirk got there is when you started to see stuff. Seemed like he running two miles on every play he out there. I'm doing. He's just zooming through the day. You know what I mean? But outside of that, at first, you know, he was a pick and roll, you know, a dominant point guard who handled the ball a lot, ran a lot of pick and rolls. When Kurt got there, everything kind of switched up, and I think it played into Draymond's favor, too. Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Yes.
ISO Joe Johnson
He was more of the point. He was the point forward.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. And. And, Dre, I'm looking at that jump shot. I don't see 15 points tonight with that jump shot. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just saying. I'm just saying that with that. With that jumper. Now, maybe. Maybe if you were seven foot, you ride the basket, okay? But. But I'm looking at that jump shot. Dre, I don't know if you got 15 points a night in there with that. Yeah, but look, look, I. I agree with you, Joe. Austin. Re. Austin Rivers had an unbelievable career. 11 years. Draymond is. What. What is. What year is it for Draymond? 14. 15. So this. This is 15.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah. Damn.
Joe Johnson
Okay. CO came after. So Steph was. Yeah, I'm saying. Well, K came before. Steph was first, then Clay, then Dre. Okay, well, who's the first round pick with? Draymond? No. Harrison. Remember Harrison?
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He won a title with them. Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Harrison Barnes came.
ISO Joe Johnson
Okay.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. So I'm like, dre, go home and look at them rings, man. When your daughter. When your kids meet you at the door, say, hey, let me. Let me. Let me refresh my memory. Yeah, exact. You. Yeah. I mean, look it. These days. These days, not anytime, if you're not just heaping a fusive praise. And he said it. He said, look, Draymond's IQ is one of the reasons what makes him so spectacular.
ISO Joe Johnson
And it is.
Joe Johnson
But Otto ran into it. Oh, and I might say 100 good things. We say the guy dropped the ball, and then, oh, now y' all hating ass.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh,
Joe Johnson
bro, we've been talking good about you all year, but you dropped the ball in a crucial situation. Now you mad at OO and I because we pointed it out.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, I know how it go, man. You know, some of the. Hey, some guys can't take constructive criticism,
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Joe Johnson
but they don't ever. They don't never say, hey. They don't never DM Me or DM Ocho. Hey, man, y' all stop heaping that praise on it.
ISO Joe Johnson
I don't.
Joe Johnson
I don't need all that. I don't need y' all to talk about how good I'm Playing right now. Don't do that. We don't never get that.
ISO Joe Johnson
Nah.
Joe Johnson
But the minute we say, hey, bro, you got to make that play. That was a. You loafed on that play, man. Yo.
ISO Joe Johnson
Because, yeah. Hey, y' all know criticism weighs more. It weighs a lot more.
Chad Ochocinco
Especially. Hey, and depending on who it comes from. Yeah, they're waving more.
ISO Joe Johnson
Look, you got. That's you, Uncle Ocho, both of y', all, uncle badass tight end Uncle Hell of a. I mean, Ocho a hell of a receiver.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
ISO Joe Johnson
When them guys hear stuff from y', all these other receivers, hell yeah, they, they take it to heart.
Joe Johnson
Time told me that. He said that's gonna be the hardest thing. He'd say. He'd say, he'd say, he'd say. He'd say shot. He said, you gotta understand, bro, you gotta. You got a gold jacket and you got championships. So the things that they used to. Used to use against players that didn't have a gold jacket or didn't have championships, they can't use that against you. So I'm like, when guys say, oh, you hating. Okay, I need you to tell me what I'm hating on. Because I don't know if you checked my resume. I hadn't updated in a while, but I don't know if you checked it. I'm. I'm good. I. Hey, I left the game. Every record that a tight anchor had, it was in Glenville, Georgia at my granny's house. They don't been broken. Okay, I'm cool with that. But for a seventh round draft pick out of an HBCU to have every record that a tight end could have, I think I did pretty good. Ocho came out of Liberty City. Nobody thought Ocho was going to end up what he did, but he turned into a six time Pro Bowler, an All Pro, a top 50 player in Cincinnati Bengals history. I think we kind of know what we're talking about a little bit. Yeah, a little bit. So you can't make everybody happy.
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Pets age 0 to 10, Ohio State wide receiver. Ocho and Joe just bought his dream car. He isn't even eligible for the NFL until the next draft. Just five months away from turning 21 years of age, Smith picked up a 2026 Lamborghini starting at 250 a quarter of a million. Which pocket change when you consider he's one of the highest paid nil athletes in the country. With a valuation of 4.2 million thanks to deals with Adidas, Red Bull, Lululemon and Nintendo. O Jojo, if Nil were around when you was in college.
Chad Ochocinco
Yes.
Joe Johnson
What you call me?
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, I ain't gonna lie. Let me tell you something. I'm gonna have me, gonna have me some fly. See, when I was in college, y' all know what came out? What came out was some Expeditions and them Navigators. That's what came out when I was in college.
Joe Johnson
They was the hottest day.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, Joe, remember, remember excursions?
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ISO Joe Johnson
They had just came out around that time like 2001. 2000. So everybody was getting there. But yeah. Hey, hey, Ocho, you making four point something million in college.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, get you a little Uris, a little Lambo or something, boy. Hey, I probably would have caught me something like that now. Yeah, I ain't gonna act like that. Hey, I'm just about to turn 21 and you mean boy. Hey, hey. Ball out. Jeremiah.
Joe Johnson
Hey, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
What you getting, huh?
ISO Joe Johnson
You put them things on there?
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, you know, I had a little something. I had a little sub, bro hooked me up. I had a, a 300 ZX, you know what I'm saying? You know, this is T tops, you know, you know that little thing. Then my Senior had a 300 Bens, you know,
ISO Joe Johnson
but imagine, imagine if you make it. If you had 4 million though on your own.
Joe Johnson
You making. Oh, I had a sports car. Oh yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Hold on.
Joe Johnson
Know back then those big 560 Mercedes was out.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, big body, 500 series. Yeah, yeah.
Joe Johnson
Probably something like that. Cuz I ain't really know. I ain't really know nothing about no little like, ain't no I ain't had. Never seen a Ferrari up close in person. Never had seen a Lamborghini. So I probably wouldn't even. Probably get, you know, what was out too. IRO Z's, remember? No IRO Z. Yeah, I remember iron.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah. I think nowadays you got so many of these young cats driving these Lambos and Rolls Royces here. You know, these kids see all that, they want that big. They want that.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
For sure.
ISO Joe Johnson
Bentleys and all that.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah. What you getting, Ocho? Hey, you died in Miami. Oh, you know, you. You in Oregon. So you at Oregon State.
Chad Ochocinco
I still got that Miami mentality. And normally having that kind of money, the first thing I would. I would have did, being a little shorty, being legit, I would have got me a Chevy.
Joe Johnson
I was gonna say, you get the. Don't go.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, I'm. I'm getting. I'm getting 73 convertible top, you know, on some.
ISO Joe Johnson
All gone bees.
Chad Ochocinco
That. That's just the mindset. Especially when I'm that young out where I wouldn't be choosing, you know, nothing foreign, but my first car, I would want. I want. I want a damn Chevy.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, boy.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, but I. I don't know. Hey, I might have to get me something. Hey, I ain't gonna. I ain't hold. Y' all about to give me something with a passport. Hey, yeah, but hey, that ain't gonna be the first car. The first part. We'll go. Hey, man, Porter. Definitely we're getting up out of there. She getting out of Route 4, Box 3. Well, listen, boy, kids balling out of control, man.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, yeah.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, they need some real help and guidance too, bro, because, you know,
Joe Johnson
you get the stories that I hear about guys coming out had that nil and they seven figures to the tax man.
ISO Joe Johnson
Think about it, though. Think about it. If you come from, you know, a family whose parents never had this type of money, hell, it ain't just you spending. You know what I'm saying?
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, but just to throw. I'm just. I'm just thinking about that. Boy, you can't imagine you in college.
ISO Joe Johnson
You can't even imagine, man, me, hey,
Chad Ochocinco
me pulling up to the game and I got damn Chevy boy with that old trick daddy playing that 2000 trick.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, I know what I know.
Joe Johnson
You have that flip fl. You have that flip flop playing on that thing. Ocho, that. Who that flip flop Paint.
Chad Ochocinco
You remember that comedian paint. You remember that?
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, I'm gonna have mine. That bowling ball. That thing will be looking like the whole bowling ball with that sign on it.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, I know. I know one thing. When you get your ass on that field, you better be cutting up.
Joe Johnson
Oh, you know.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, you know, I'm gonna cut up Joe. You know I'm gonna cut off Joe. I ain't. I ain't got no choice.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah. Hey, that's the one thing you gotta understand as a young player. Hey, it's. It's good to have all these things, you know, these materialistic things. But don't forget. Don't forget why you're here now.
Chad Ochocinco
How you. Hey, how you got it and not how. And how you go.
ISO Joe Johnson
Don't forget you lose that edge that you lose a little bit of that drive. Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Hey, you know, back in the day, I pull up to the game, had that little 300Z, you know, after the game, old lady waiting on me, getting the thing. You know, I had to go shower. You know, I could take no shower. I had to go back to the door. Then we go out, get a little something to eat. You know what I'm saying?
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, Joe. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe Johnson
You know, I'll ball a little bit. What, bro? Had to hook that thing up.
ISO Joe Johnson
Four M's, bro. In college, 20 years old.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, we going here. You getting that, Getting that. Getting them Gizzles fries carry here to go to Ryan's. You know, a little something, man. That was.
Chad Ochocinco
Who, man, I still. Man, I'm thinking about it, too, bro.
Joe Johnson
What you think about?
Chad Ochocinco
I mean, back then and you know, you know them. I'm gonna just say the D boys don't know, boy. Had them Chevys and them goddamn Dually, man.
ISO Joe Johnson
They were cutting up, man.
Chad Ochocinco
Boy, random Fordham Ford, Ford Super Duty, F F, 450s and 350s.
Joe Johnson
I thought about getting, what you call it, that Shelby. Yeah, that Shelby truck. Yeah, you was you. I went test drove. That's the only car I've ever test drove. I like, man, I might get this thing here.
Chad Ochocinco
A Shelby.
Joe Johnson
That Shelby.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, the one from the movie going in 60 seconds.
ISO Joe Johnson
I know what you're talking about.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, okay, okay, okay.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. No, I ain't talking about that. I ain't talking about that. 427. I think you talking about that Eleanor, though.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, Eleanor.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that Mustang. All right, it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Before we get to the Super Chat, we got five video voicemail from our discord. Let's take a listen. Oh, Joe.
ISO Joe Johnson
What's good with y', all, man? It's Fallout Media.
Joe Johnson
I'm back here again, man. Unc. Joe, I'm mad.
ISO Joe Johnson
Than the.
Joe Johnson
Oh, I'm mad, man.
ISO Joe Johnson
I'm mad. I'm mad.
Joe Johnson
Y' all see? Lakers locked in. Goat James. I locked in. I'm locked in.
Chad Ochocinco
Me and you.
Joe Johnson
We here. Hey, man, this was terrible, man. This was terrible, man. This was terrible. Austin Reeves. One thing about Austin Reeves, so far, the last couple playoffs, he showed Me something. He's showing me something. He's not ready. He. I don't know if he got that dog in the Monk. Do we got that dog in the Monk? What's going on? O Jojo? How. How often can we rely on the Thunder missing all these threes?
ISO Joe Johnson
How often can we rely on the Thunder turning the ball over at this rate? How often can we rely on that?
Joe Johnson
I'm mad.
ISO Joe Johnson
White cat family.
Joe Johnson
I mad in the muff. I'm mad, y'.
Chad Ochocinco
All.
ISO Joe Johnson
No, I'm mad cause it's some straight up bs.
Joe Johnson
This is a game.
ISO Joe Johnson
You gotta win this game.
Joe Johnson
When. When the best team in the NBA play this bad, you gotta win it. I'm sorry, y'.
Chad Ochocinco
All.
Joe Johnson
I'm just mad.
Chad Ochocinco
I'm mad. He mad. Joe. I'm. How you mad? You knew that. You knew what the outcome was.
ISO Joe Johnson
Nah, but they had a chance, though. Oo. That's what he said. It's like. It's kind of like they got teased a little bit. That's what it is. It's like, damn, we played. We played pretty decent first quarter.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
ISO Joe Johnson
Second quarter until the last, what? Couple minutes. And then outside of that, you know, you get down 8 to 12 points, right. You can't come back. And like. Like he said, hell, he see the turnovers that. That, that Shay had. Who, like, like Unc say they ain't held Shay under 20 points and I don't know how damn long.
Chad Ochocinco
20 points.
ISO Joe Johnson
So you get this opportunity. Damn. You just. Braun just needed a little help. He just needed some. Some. He needed ar to.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
ISO Joe Johnson
You know, being a little efficient.
Chad Ochocinco
I understand. So he. He just wanted to feel good tonight then. That's it.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah. Well, I mean, you got it now. What it is.
Joe Johnson
I know what he's saying, man. Why you try to rather. The man said he mad, Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco
I know. I'm. I'm just saying. But also, outside of being mad, you also. You also have to be realistic, you know, going into the series understanding, you know, there. There's a good chance, you know, we might not win a game. You're playing the best team.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Playing the best team out the goddamn West.
Joe Johnson
So I think what Joe said, and we talked about it, we didn't expect them to play this bad. I mean, think about it. Think about it. How many shots? Shay only went to the line three times.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
And look at all the threes. Look at all the turnovers they had.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
And they still beat you by 18.
ISO Joe Johnson
And they only had 108 points. And you know, they gonna have they gonna have a couple of them game where they got 130, 140.
Joe Johnson
Yes. And you know, if they get. They get to that 130 week, the game need to be at 100.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Because that's your best chance of winning. You're not gonna outscore them.
Chad Ochocinco
And the funny thing about it, too, Uncle Joe, you just said it too right. Shay didn't have a huge game. You know, offensively, one of the few games where he didn't score 20. Hell, he didn't score 30. But, hell, everybody else contributed, too. Everybody else contributed, too. So even if he does have off night, hell, you still got to deal with everybody else.
Joe Johnson
That's the. That's the time that you like. Okay, Austin to think about it. LeBron took a back seat to Austin. He took a back seat.
ISO Joe Johnson
You know why? You know why? Because he didn't. He knew it was going to take him a little while to find his rhythm in time. And after missing the first, what, 15, 17 games. Yeah, he knew it's gonna take him a little while. The same with ar, bro. It takes. It takes a little. Takes a little time.
Joe Johnson
Let's take a listen to the next one.
ISO Joe Johnson
What's up, Ocho? ISO nightcap family. Hey, I want to ask, what was one teammate y' all had? Y' all know what's always gonna come and play. You never had to worry about him. He just always on his. And Brian the Goat man, but lbj, Mary J, PB and J. Okay, seeing three, and I say three. Cause we gonna beat y' all so
Joe Johnson
bad, y' all boys ain't gonna show up the game.
ISO Joe Johnson
He said what? He said what? What team or what teammate?
Joe Johnson
I think he said team. He said team. Team. Oh, did I had that. I know I had to be on my best behavior against. Oh, okay.
ISO Joe Johnson
He said what now is it?
Joe Johnson
What team did you play that you know you had to. Had to be on your best behavior against or gonna be bad?
ISO Joe Johnson
Boy, was I. I tell y', all, it was. It had to be what, 2011, Brian. First year in Miami. I was playing here for the Hawks.
Joe Johnson
Yeah,
ISO Joe Johnson
get your rest, partner. That they gonna try to embarrass your ass. Braun, Chris, Boss, D. Wade, they just had a squad. They had guys.
Chad Ochocinco
They were loaded.
ISO Joe Johnson
They just had guys who knew how to play, bro. And they were hungry. They wanted to win. That's. That's. That's when Braun was talking about not one, not two, not man. They were hell.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, yeah.
ISO Joe Johnson
They were hell. Boy.
Joe Johnson
I. Kansas City.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Kansas City was always tough they always had. They would. They didn't have offenses like they got now, like what they had when they had Priest Homes and Trent Green and all those guys. And obviously when they had. Obviously not with my homeboy. But their defense was upstanding. They were unbelievable. And boy, them two guys, they had Rock, Kevin Ross and Albert Lewis. And then they got Carter and they got Hasty. They were right there.
Chad Ochocinco
James Hasty.
Joe Johnson
And they got DT and Neil. They had them guy. Oh, man, they were. Hell, you had to be. You had to be on your best. Yeah, and they were dirty, too. Pushing your cheap shot. You.
Chad Ochocinco
Who you had Ocho shoot me. Especially during that time, early 2000s, boy. Shoot. Only thing I can think of is a goddamn Ravens and Steelers. And then, you know, hell, I. I ain't got damn behave because, you know, my crazy ass, you know, sending gifts, talking, talking trash through the media just to make it exciting, take some of the pressure off my teammates. So all the pressure was on me, you know, all y' all got to do just go out there and play.
ISO Joe Johnson
No.
Chad Ochocinco
Everybody aiming to hurt me, everybody aiming to kill me. So you. Everything should be easy for you. But, boy, them goddamn games there, boy. Joe, I had to bring an extra chin strap. Joe.
ISO Joe Johnson
It was like that.
Joe Johnson
He said. He said. He asked teammate. The chat is saying. He asked teammates.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, he said, teammate. You ain't got to worry about.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, what teammates?
Chad Ochocinco
Goddamn, tj boy. Yeah, goddamn tj, boy. He's sure. Hey, you ain't got to worry about it. He's showing up to everything.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
No matter the circumstance, win, loss, draw. TJ, TJ boy. TJ was. He was a real deal, boy.
Joe Johnson
Oh, seven. I played with seven. And in Baltimore had to be 52.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah. Mine would be 0405 Phoenix playing with Nash.
Chad Ochocinco
He.
ISO Joe Johnson
Little Joker was special, boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was special. Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, he nice on that. On that. On that pitch, too.
ISO Joe Johnson
He is. That's what he grew up playing that soccer. That's how his footwork got nice.
Joe Johnson
I think the thing is, I caught Ray when he was young and he was hungry. All he talked about, man, I need to be defensive player of the year. I need that, man. I need to be the best. I said, bro, these are some of the things that you need to do. There's some of the things, you know how you need to conduct yourself. I say, it's, hey, it's there. I said, you got the talent. I said, but now, I mean, there's one thing to say. You want to be there. There's another thing to go out there and take the steps necessary to be that.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah,
Joe Johnson
man. The way, the way I saw him train and the way I saw him grow and once we. Because my first year there, he ended up being defensive player of the year. It was over. Yeah. Same year he was mvp, super bowl mvp. It was over. I said, they don't. I said, I was telling somebody, I said, they don't even realize what he's done. He was the wrong guy to have that level of success. I said, because he won't rest now. I said, he gonna want it. He's gonna want more than that.
ISO Joe Johnson
And that's rare.
Chad Ochocinco
He go, he going to get it. He going to get it, Joe.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah. That's rare that you have guys with that mentality after they win, they exhale. But you got some guys after they win, they want more.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Yes. That's all you like, bro. I was like, bro, bro, enjoy this, bro. We just won the Super Bowl. You defensive player of the year, super bowl mvp. He's like, shit, I need it. I need another. He like, I need another one of these things, man. I mean, all the greats. He like LT and Reggie and this one, man, they got multiple. I said, bro, bro. You five years in the league. Think about it. You five years in the league, you a first team all Pro, you a Super bowl mvp. And you dpoi. Other than lt, no other player got that resume.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, well, that's funny. That's funny.
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Joe Johnson
Let's take a Listen to the next one.
ISO Joe Johnson
What's up Unc? Ocho ISO. Big fan of you guys. I'm from the Caribbean, from Grenada to be exact. I've been watching the show for past two years now, you know, maybe three. I've been here from the beginning. Always watch you guys every night. Show is full of laughter, full of fun. Every time I'm in the kitchen preparing my lunch, always that is my go to especially you know, the stories, the UNC stories and so on, you know.
Chad Ochocinco
Appreciate you guys
ISO Joe Johnson
already.
Joe Johnson
Appreciate that man. We appreciate the support. I don't know a whole lot about Grenada. Anybody ever been to Grenada? You bet some. Everywhere. You ain't do ish ash over there raising.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh yeah, yeah.
Joe Johnson
I guess they, they. It's. They known for like spices and stuff, right? I think they're like known for like cinnamon, nutmeg or something. I'm trying to think.
ISO Joe Johnson
I know,
Joe Johnson
I'm trying to think if there's an athlete n he from Suriname. Anthony Nest. Anthony Nesty. He's the head coach of Florida swim team. I think it was the Olympic. Olympic swim team coach too. Okay, see, I know a little something.
Chad Ochocinco
What happened?
Joe Johnson
It's known as the aisle of spice. You're known for like spices, cinnamon, nutmeg, stuff like that. Okay, but I've never been to it. I'm going to an island.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
Joe Johnson
Maybe have maybe a long island.
ISO Joe Johnson
What would you know about them long island team? What?
Joe Johnson
Nothing. I know my homeboy Bucket. That's his Drake. The first thing you do, he goes somewhere. Man. Let me get on a long island. By the way, let me go ahead and get two because it's gonna probably take you a while to get back over here. Now. I ain't never had one Joe it. Yeah. Karani James, that's who's from Grenada. He won Olympic. He won Olympic gold medal in the 400. Went to university of Alabama. That I knew it was somebody from Grenada. Let's take a listen to the next one.
ISO Joe Johnson
What's up OO and steel in the building. I just got a quick question for all y'.
Joe Johnson
All.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, Joe B. From Atlanta. Myself. What's your favorite moment being Atlanta Hawk playing for them like anything. Could be anything in the game.
Joe Johnson
Whatever. Ocho, I got a bona pick with
ISO Joe Johnson
you because when you listed your receiver for our receive workshop room, you did not mention Drake London, you did not invite him. So I'm just very curious on what is your beef with Drake London. I get the Falcons are a low market team, but Drake Lynn is a
Joe Johnson
top 10 receiver in the league.
ISO Joe Johnson
And I'm very curious, and I'm actually. Pull up the stats for him just in case he doesn't know, because Ocho doesn't watch the Falcons. Trust me, I know. And my last question for you is, what's been your hardest moment since recording Nightcap? And, Joe, do not pay him that 500 until he missed straight. Glenn is the top five receiver. Ash, pull up the stats.
Chad Ochocinco
1.
ISO Joe Johnson
My favorite moment being Atlanta Hawk. It would have to be. We were AC. Playing the Boston Celtics, who was a 1 seed, who ultimately went on to win the title that year. We took them seven games. They didn't win a game here in Atlanta, fellas. It was. I've never seen the arena like that ever. Like, I'm talking about to where when you talking to yourself, you can't even hear yourself talk.
Joe Johnson
You can't even.
ISO Joe Johnson
You know what I mean? Like, it was. It was crazy in there, bro.
Joe Johnson
Oh, why you didn't invite that, man?
Chad Ochocinco
I invited everybody. I don't know what the hell he talking about.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, I don't know about top five. I don't even know about top ten.
Chad Ochocinco
I. I don't know what he's talking about either. Oh, especially that part. But, you know, I don't disrespect nobody. I just. I just let people talk. You know, that's the city. That's his team. I like Drake. London. Really good player coming out of usc. Good dude. Good dude. Real good dude.
Joe Johnson
People talking about, what's the. What's the toughest. The toughest thing I went through since I started recording Nightcap. I know a lot of people think it's the situation that I had last year, but I've had some private battles that were even tougher than that, and I just leave it at that. Here's our next one.
ISO Joe Johnson
What's up, fellas? Just wanted to say what's up, chicken air? Hey, I know y' all be doing a lot of talking about the. The nightcap outside. What y' all gonna do next. Y' all need to line up the. The batting cages, pool, and throwing darts on the next one at up. You always talking about you was shooting up your knees, your ankles, your back. Time to shoot up, man. Don't shoot that knee up and go. Get out there, man, and shoot that next episode Nightcap Outside. Man.
Joe Johnson
Peace out. Six weeks away from 58.
ISO Joe Johnson
I tell y' all what. I'm gonna put down a mean demonstration on you boys again for not on
Joe Johnson
darting darks and pool.
Chad Ochocinco
Joe, hold on. Hey, hey, Listen, you definitely, definitely not that bad.
ISO Joe Johnson
You already said you can't hit 85. No, I can hit 85.
Chad Ochocinco
No, you cannot, Joe.
Joe Johnson
All right, all right, Joe.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, listen, listen to me, listen to me.
Joe Johnson
All.
Chad Ochocinco
All jokes aside, when the last time you've been in the back game?
ISO Joe Johnson
It's been a while, but my hand eye coordination is great. I got 20.
Chad Ochocinco
No, it's not. I don't know.
Joe Johnson
It.
Chad Ochocinco
No, it's not.
ISO Joe Johnson
How you gonna tell me what my handout coordination near.
Chad Ochocinco
Joe, do you understand how fast 85
ISO Joe Johnson
miles an hour is? Yes.
Chad Ochocinco
You not your hand eye coordination. Unless you played at the highest level,
ISO Joe Johnson
it's we going to see.
Chad Ochocinco
I'm telling you it's not. You not beat. You're not beating me in darts or pool or ping pong. Hell, you not even beat me in your own goddamn sport. The hell I'm arguing.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, you and un can't even see. So I know y' all can't beat me in darts.
Joe Johnson
How y' all gonna beat me in darts? Hold on. Ocho can't see. Ocho got that murky eye. I'm good.
Chad Ochocinco
How the hell I can't see?
Joe Johnson
Cut your. Your right eye cloudy.
Chad Ochocinco
I. I didn't did well all my life with just one eye.
ISO Joe Johnson
That's when you were young, though. You were young, vibrant.
Joe Johnson
You. You were booming.
ISO Joe Johnson
You ain't like that.
Chad Ochocinco
I'm still Joe. I'm still booming Joe. I'm still. I'm still vibrant Joe. Ain't nothing changed.
Joe Johnson
All right, all right, man. We get out there, they talk about, man, y' all out there going against a Cyclops.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, not just any Cyclops. One of. One of the top, sexiest Cyclops alive. Man.
Joe Johnson
We got one more. Do y' all remember the first time you had to fire somebody? How did it feel and what did y' all learn from it? Joe, you ever had to fire somebody?
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, hell, I don't put no emotion into it. It is what it is. It's gotta happen. Either you're an asset or your ass a liability. Yeah, got to go. Period.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, well, I'm trying to think. Well, since Ash do all the hiring, she responsible for the termination? No, I'm. Well, look, I mean, I've changed agents or changed attorneys and stuff like that, but it's. It's a part of. But I'm talking about somebody that actually worked like day to day operation Club Shay Shay nightcap or something like that. I've. I've been blessed that I haven't had to. Hopefully I don't have to. I think we have great. I think the people that we have working in these. In this space, they enjoy being here. They work really hard. They understand. A lot of them came from Fox, and they understand my work ethic. They understand what we. What I expect of them, because they see how hard I work, and they know I expect them to work equally as hard. So I've been very, very fortunate to. To have people that. I think we pretty much had the same. I mean, obviously. Yeah, we did. We had to fire a couple of producers.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah. Think about it. Hey, hey, hey. With me running this yoga studio, I had to. I had to fire a couple. Couple yoga instructors. I mean, you know, they all independent contractors, so it ain't like they. They solely work for ISO Yoga. They work for other studios around the city. But if. If I got students coming to me or. Or clients coming to me and they complaining about you and this same complaint. Yeah, yeah, you gotta go.
Joe Johnson
Right, right.
Chad Ochocinco
Damn, Joe. You'll find me if I work, if I word. ISO.
ISO Joe Johnson
Get your ass out of here as soon as you came in. Hey, if I got. If I got a young lady. A young lady tell me. Well, Ocho, he been. You know, he been. He been real flirtatious. This, that, and the third, because that's the one thing.
Chad Ochocinco
Right, Right.
ISO Joe Johnson
One thing I don't tolerate, you know, especially if you're a man in this industry.
Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah, yeah. You ain't gonna be putting pitching woo
ISO Joe Johnson
on my own because it's dominated by women. And so if guys come in and can't control themselves, that's the first thing I tell you, bro. Your ass gotta go. If I get one complaint, you gotta go. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Damn. What is she. Oh, yeah, Joe. You know, they. They be coming on to me, Joe. I ain't got nothing to do with that, Joe.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, well, hey, hey, hey. You better act like Ray Charles, you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can't do business like that, bro.
Joe Johnson
Oh, you had to fire somebody, Ocho?
Chad Ochocinco
Nah, I ain't really had to fight nobody on. I mean, you know, cutting people off. I mean, that's not really. Not really firing, you know, they ain't on my books. Yeah, ain't nothing like that. You know, I ain't never really been. Been in a position where, you know, I got to, you know, let somebody go.
Joe Johnson
All you gotta do is just work hard. I mean, look, I. I ain't. I ain't looking over your shoulder. I ain't doing all that.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
I got too many other things.
ISO Joe Johnson
Ain't trying to micromanage no damn body.
Joe Johnson
I ain't trying to. You just. Hey, you said you can do it.
Chad Ochocinco
I hate that, bro.
Joe Johnson
You said you. Oh, this is what you can do. Oh, yeah, I've done this.
ISO Joe Johnson
Xyz.
Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
How.
Joe Johnson
How long you say you've been doing this? I don't know.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
And, yeah, see, now I actually saying people chat GPT the resume so they feel like they. They done did all this, and then get there on the job. It ain't did nothing. And then I'm gonna chat GPT this resignation later. You got to get up out of here. Because we don't. We don't because the thing is, at the rate we're moving, we don't really
ISO Joe Johnson
have time to train you.
Joe Johnson
Either you can do it or you can't.
Chad Ochocinco
Right?
Joe Johnson
And, you know, we a. This stuff live. Maybe you get a little bit more leeway with a club Shay Shay. Because it's taped, right? But when we live.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, Joe. Now that I think about it, though, you know I love me some jobs, boy, I'm thinking about. Hey, you might. You might want to hire your boy. Come on. Hire me on. No, give me. Give me a little.
ISO Joe Johnson
You know, you already said you can't be still, and you can, so I already know you ain't even in for the running. I ain't even got you in. I ain't got you. You.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, listen, you heard what Unc just said. Now, come to work, be on time, you know, be professional.
ISO Joe Johnson
But you. You ain't gonna have no passion for it, or. You already told me you can't be still.
Joe Johnson
You.
ISO Joe Johnson
You don't like. Yeah, I ain't. I ain't gonna waste no time with you, partner. Nah.
Chad Ochocinco
No.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
So I'm trying. So you say support black. I'm trying to support black blends. You don't want to get a brother.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, I can't. I can't do it, partner. Hey, I told you, either your asset or liability, partner.
Chad Ochocinco
I definitely know liability, huh? I'm an asset to the company, all right? You can have me on the corner with a sign. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
ISO Joe Johnson
Okay.
Joe Johnson
No. Brandon McGovern said. Oh. You and Skip appeared on Truth a Dab. And. And you were asked who you've never listened to, and you said, will Kane. What is or was your beef with him? Ain't got no beef. I just am not interested in anything that he had to say. This B. What's up? Nightcap? Love the show. Yo, where did you get the random knowledge from? Do you Read a lot or is it just life experience? Some of it is life experiences, but I did. I mean, I love sports, and I'm just a sponge normally. If I read something, if I see something. Yeah, it's there. It's there. And, you know, my grandfather was. You know, like I said, we was. We was computers. We used the cell phone. We was the. What they call that thing, notes, where you, like, you tell your phone something, it reminds you that's what we were for. Barney Porter. Hey, tell them boys your address. Tell them boys your phone number. And then we'd have to. We'd have to regurgitate it to him. But I've always been like that. Always. And so. And it. Sir, it serves me well to be able to recall things, especially in the debate format, because when you debate, to be able to recall things, like I said. Plus, I'm old enough to remember because a lot of stuff that we talking about.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Happened in my lifetime, and I'm old enough to have seen it, seen Magic Johnson, seen Larry Bird, seeing all that. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Y' all talk about this xyz, blah, blah, blah. I said, y' all do realize in that first championship, Bird wasn't the final mvp? What?
ISO Joe Johnson
Cornbread.
Joe Johnson
Y' all know he had a game in which he scored eight points, but that ain't none of my business. I don't even know why I brought it up.
ISO Joe Johnson
Right?
Joe Johnson
See what I'm saying? Hey, to be able to recall stuff like that. And.
ISO Joe Johnson
And.
Joe Johnson
But so, yeah, it does serve you well, especially in a debate format. I think that was one of my biggest assets is that being able to debate, studying and. And watching what I did. Because the first two years, I would do the show all two and a half hours, and then I would go home and re.
ISO Joe Johnson
Watch the show.
Joe Johnson
And I remember having. And my. My agent called me, Marvin's, like, what are you doing? I said, I'm re watching the show. He called me like a week later and said, re watching the show. Called me a month later, we're watching the show. He's like, how long you think you're gonna be able to do this? I said, he said, you'll burn yourself out. But I wanted. I wanted to be great at this because I know I was the first to do this on a daily basis. You know, you normally. The guys come in and do a segment. If it's a basketball guy, he do the basketball segment, it's a football guy, he do the football segment, it's a baseball guy, so forth. And so But I was gonna be there full time. I was not gonna get off a segment, so I had to re immerse myself and to make sure. Okay, yes, Jim, you was good here, but. Oh, you could have got.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, right here.
Joe Johnson
Don't be so. Hey, let him finish his point. You got him. You got him. Spring the trap on it. And so to be able to recall that information, man, it. It really served me well. I do miss that sometimes. I do miss, like having that word. Ocho got his flag planted here. I got my flag planted there. Okay.
ISO Joe Johnson
Debate.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, Real, real debate. Trey Tyner, F. What Ocho been talking about. Can't say nothing about broad age. A 32 year old LeBron is getting this Thunder team out of here.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, he's saying when Brown with 32. Oh, yeah. He gonna put up at least 45. Yeah, you're gonna have a couple games and they.
Joe Johnson
And they single it like this with no double. Oh, yeah, for sure, for sure.
ISO Joe Johnson
Man.
Joe Johnson
Listen, he getting a game or two.
ISO Joe Johnson
I think we get a game too. You know,
Joe Johnson
OKC always clamps. AR series over with. For real. If they don't find a way to score. Excuse me. AR got to find.
ISO Joe Johnson
He'll be better. I think he'll be better. Y' all gotta know he. He went to. He went to college in Oklahoma. He played the University of Oklahoma. So it's like.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
ISO Joe Johnson
And he from Arkansas. That ain't number like a two hour drive from Oklahoma. So it's like he at home. I feel like he gonna. I feel like he gonna play a lot better.
Joe Johnson
He gonna pick it up, Man. Nightcap, fam. All I know is 20, 18, Braun wins Stanford. This.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, it's 20. It's 20. 26.
ISO Joe Johnson
Come on, man.
Joe Johnson
Can we.
ISO Joe Johnson
Can we move on?
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, we got, we got. We got to keep. Stop reliving, you know, what it used to be and you know, isn't it
Joe Johnson
funny how time just slips on away? Hey,
Chad Ochocinco
hey, boy. Joe, I got a song, boy, you got to hear, boy. Man, listen, hold on. I wrote it down in my thing. Hold on. I wrote it down. Hey, it's called you and me.
ISO Joe Johnson
By who?
Chad Ochocinco
Rocky Robbins. Rocky Robbins. I don't know if y' all ever heard. I don't know if y' all ever heard it. It came out in 1980. The song you and me by Rocky Robbins. And he got another song called After Loving youg, Joe. Oh, my.
ISO Joe Johnson
It's like that, Joe.
Chad Ochocinco
I'm. You know, I'm a sucker for 80s and 90s music.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
And I Know about all of it. I ain't never heard this dude before. And I thought I knew everything when it comes to old school music. Boy, this one here. Hey, Chat, listen to that song, man. After loving you. And the other song is you and me by Rocky Robbins, man.
Joe Johnson
Oh. Cinco de Mayo. Cinco de Ocho. Cinco de Mayo. Cinco de Ocho. Prime lost the toe. I'm Mojo Jojo. Okc. We get the game.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, today is single today.
Joe Johnson
Yes.
Chad Ochocinco
Damn. I didn't, I didn't. Missed all the fans. I don't even drink, but still.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, I should have went out there and got me a little talk.
Chad Ochocinco
I should have went and got a little taco or something.
Joe Johnson
Some teeth to what? No chips, Tortillas.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah. I ain't gonna even laugh. I, I ain't know. I ain't know today. Cinco de Mile neither. My lady came home, she like, she was like, you know that they say. I'm like, man, I ain't.
Joe Johnson
What? Yeah, I ain't know either, Joe. Until Ocho just brought it up.
Chad Ochocinco
Damn.
Joe Johnson
Got. We celebrate. I mean they got so many holidays now. The holidays just run together.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, hey.
Joe Johnson
Every other day.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, not only that, when you've done so damn much in your lifetime, boy, you've done so much damage. You like, damn. Hey, I can stand to chill out.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Would you rather be an mba, NBA mvp, but never make a finals? Or a bench warmer with five rings who never played a single minute?
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah. Yeah. What? Hey, look, I ain't gonna lie.
Joe Johnson
That's easy.
ISO Joe Johnson
I want to be involved.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
ISO Joe Johnson
I, I, I want to be involved. I, I don't want to sit the bench and, and, and, and collect awards. I want to be out there in the action.
Joe Johnson
Boom boom room. Dr. Doom. Hawaiian goons. Bring out the broom sweep. Coming soon. Ok, C and F, the clutch. God, Jared Allen's only six nine. We think he's taller than he is only. Will he play like he was 59 tonight.
ISO Joe Johnson
He got that long ass reach too.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, hey, hey, Joe. They say only 6 9.
ISO Joe Johnson
Like they just like they just walking around. Like you just walk outside and see somebody 69. Hold on.
Joe Johnson
Yeah,
Chad Ochocinco
I got. Damn. Cave was so smooth tonight, boy.
Joe Johnson
But hey Joe. 6 foot 9 with a 7 5.
ISO Joe Johnson
See what I'm saying? You see what I'm saying?
Chad Ochocinco
So he might as well be 727 1. Might as well be.
Joe Johnson
You understand how long that how, how
ISO Joe Johnson
ridiculous People don't understand that. Huh? They can't even understand that. I think it's for guys like us Who've played the sport. And you've played against guys like that you like. Damn, this joker got some long arms.
Joe Johnson
Love the show. Are we sure James Harden is a better one on one player than Allen Iverson? Joe, you played against both of them.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, I was slithery.
Chad Ochocinco
He.
ISO Joe Johnson
He had a nice left to right crossover and he could. Man, listen, both of them were bad. But I love AI, bro. You know I'm talking about from the time I. I caught him at Georgetown all the way through the pros. Yo, he was. He was one of those little dudes who you like. Ain't no way when he get to the pros he gonna be able to do all this. He did that and son.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, man. Hell, the hell you say.
ISO Joe Johnson
Just. Just a hell of an athlete, bro.
Chad Ochocinco
Nice.
Joe Johnson
Mr. Sharp, you have to start listening to your co host when they're talking or trying to talk. My guy, we know you're the boss and sign the checks, but you have to start allowing your co host to get a word in or seven or so. Now I'm doing a three hour show. It ain't nobody talking but me. Hey, hey, y' all complain. Ocho was sitting there last night. Ocho say something. Ocho blink if you in trouble. Ocho do this, man. Ocho don't say nothing. Ocho don't know nothing about basketball. Now. Ocho don't talk enough. Joe, man. Hey, man, come on, Joe, man. You ain't gotta agree with Joe. Y' all ain't gonna never be satisfied. So guess what? We're gonna do it. We want y' all to keep on watching, and we're gonna keep on doing it.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
And. And hey, I do know basketball.
ISO Joe Johnson
Come with the territory, fellas.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, yeah, I forgot. What. Hey, what night that was. I forgot. I knew exactly what night they talked about one night where I ain't. I ain't know what the hell y' all were talking about, boy.
Joe Johnson
What they say last night? Because, Antoine, they call you Frozone. They say, man, Ocho just blink if you in trouble. If somebody got you held against your will, just blink two times.
Chad Ochocinco
Hold on. When it. When it came to the Knicks, boy, I was on fire, boy. What are they talking about?
Joe Johnson
Oh, Joe, they've been trying. David. First of all, it was, man. You remember what it was? You ready to call me, man, Unc trying to steal rail from Ocho got something for real. It's always something. Yeah, man, that's why. Hey, okay, go have the show. Because he keep bringing rail on. Well, that's Oo. Oo want to put on. Okay, fine. I ain't got no problem with it. That's his camera. That's his lens. But they were all. They always try to create something and then turn to. Try to turn it around and say, well, they. They.
ISO Joe Johnson
They bit.
Joe Johnson
No, it's not. Y' all trying to create a situation.
Chad Ochocinco
That's not fair. Hey, we gotta. Hey, we gotta get Cambodia on here. What?
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Why you do. Oho. No, stop.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, hold on. No, let me tell you something. We can have. We can have another show right under the umbrella of. Of Club Shayshay, right, Or Nightcap. What is it going? Well, umbrella. How we say it?
Joe Johnson
Shayshay Media.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, under Shayshay Media, right? Like a. Like a. Like a.
ISO Joe Johnson
Give me.
Chad Ochocinco
Give me an idea. You know, couple. Like a couple things.
Joe Johnson
Like, well, we had one of those shows, and then like, a month after we launched the show, you broke up.
Chad Ochocinco
Hold on.
Joe Johnson
We had a show? A show just like. What you talking about?
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, but that didn't have to break up. That ain't had to do with me. That could have kept going, though.
Joe Johnson
No, it couldn't.
Chad Ochocinco
No, no. Well, hey, let's. Hey, we can relaunch it.
ISO Joe Johnson
What was wrong with y' all?
Joe Johnson
Don't.
Chad Ochocinco
We can relaunch it. Hey, I'm ready. Me at Campbell.
Joe Johnson
We go, we'll leak. Let Cambodia sit this one out, because we don't. We don't want nobody to think you tried to throw shade or try to put. Throw somebody. So we're not gonna do that, Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco
Nah, nah. Hey, but no, we good. We good, though.
Joe Johnson
Huh?
Chad Ochocinco
You heard me?
Joe Johnson
Okay.
Chad Ochocinco
You heard me? Yeah, over there. Oh, yeah, we good. We good like that?
Joe Johnson
Yeah, we good. Long as you good.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, all three us. It could be all three us.
ISO Joe Johnson
All three of us. What?
Joe Johnson
Oh, Lord have mercy.
Chad Ochocinco
Me real. In Cambodia. In. In like a whole.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah.
Joe Johnson
He, he, he, he, he. You know, he done lost all his mind.
Chad Ochocinco
Not
Joe Johnson
media enterprise. That gonna be over somebody else.
Chad Ochocinco
I mean, we grown.
ISO Joe Johnson
We grow.
Chad Ochocinco
We grown. And it'd be like. It could be like a conversation like the o. Like what it's like to date someone to cheat as him.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, I dig what you're saying, Ojo. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
You know. You know, little different topics that are interesting that nobody else would know.
Joe Johnson
Oh, Lord have mercy. What do you think about that, Ocho? You pregnant or got Kobe. He's still co. Let me get that. Let me get that.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, and when y' all make me Laugh.
ISO Joe Johnson
Give me a little bit of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Appreciate that, man. Damn.
Joe Johnson
God damn. I told y'. All, y'. All. Oh, it gonna be gone, Joe. It's been like eight, nine days, ain't it?
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, nah, it's great. It's going now. But hey, hey, listen. When you make me laugh, boy, it made me cough, boy. That made me funny, boy. I don't know what it is, but it came back.
Joe Johnson
That thing circled back on your ass. Both Donovan Mitchell and Bam Adebayo are a thousand percent champions every time they go home to their girlfriends. Coco Jones good.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yes, sir.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, that, that. They, they got. They got great.
ISO Joe Johnson
They do, but.
Joe Johnson
And when you play in a professional sport that is don't matter.
Chad Ochocinco
Nah.
Joe Johnson
Ain't nobody coming to see them because of their significant others. And bless them. Coco is unbelievable. Asia, we know. Hey, when she's all said and done, she's probably right now, I say she's the greatest, gonna be the greatest woman's basketball player ever. But that ain't got nothing to do. We talking about basketball. I want to know what they're gonna do. I, I, I'm not looking when I watch them play, I ain't thinking about this other. And that's not a knock.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, but I, I like the support that they show him, though.
Joe Johnson
I do, too. Well, maybe Asia might need to get out there and help Bam. That'll get them. They ain't going nowhere soon anytime soon. Well, they might need a trade for kd. They've been wanting to get kd.
ISO Joe Johnson
You know what?
Joe Johnson
You.
ISO Joe Johnson
You might be on to something. Who they giving up, though? They giving up hero.
Joe Johnson
Tyler hero. They go. They gonna whomever. They're gonna want where? And they're gonna want Tyler hero. If you want Giannis, you're gonna have to give up both of those guys.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
If you can.
ISO Joe Johnson
If you can hold on to where, though? I hold on to where?
Joe Johnson
Hell no.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, this dumbass light always going out, man.
Joe Johnson
I'm a die hard Eagles fan and Knicks fan. When the Eagles won the super bowl. Won the bowl in 2017, Philly erupted. And Philly and New York will erupt just like Philly. Yep. New York clown.
ISO Joe Johnson
I'm telling you, they're gonna have National Guard out there, man. Yeah,
Joe Johnson
Draymond tried to be slick. He went to high school and then bypassed college. Forgetting that. The fact that river stayed one year at Duke and led his team in scoring.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, he had a hell of a year Duke. Hey, he made that clutch ass shot against North Carolina. You remember that?
Joe Johnson
Yeah, I remember that. Hell, yeah.
ISO Joe Johnson
That's the biggest rivalry probably in sports.
Joe Johnson
It's one of them. I mean, you got Alabama, Auburn. You got Michigan, Ohio State. You got North Carolina, Duke, Green Bay, Chicago. It's up there. Cowboys, Washington. Yeah, for sure. Pittsburgh Ravens. Sheldon Pope is joker on the Denver Mount Rushmore.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe Johnson
Well, you got seven. Yeah, I think. Yeah, you have to be, because nobody from the. The Rockies have won a championship. So I think him. Seven,
ISO Joe Johnson
man with three MVPs.
Joe Johnson
Hockey, probably. I would probably say probably Joe Sackett for the ABs. Probably td. Yeah. Yeah, I would go. I would go. I would go. I would put sack. Cuz, I mean, forsberg was good. Frostburg was good. Patrick wall was good. But I would go. Joe sackett, 7 yoke td. Can the Knicks keep up with OKC in a potential Finals? Man, that'd be a great matchup. Brunson. I mean, Brunson. But they got guys that could throw it. They got guys, they got heart. They got og they got Mikhail Bridges. They got guys they can throw at.
ISO Joe Johnson
They do, bro.
Joe Johnson
But they got guys that can rebound. They got Cat. That could probably offset a lot of what. What Shay does. They got Mitchell Robinson that can bang. They got the other kid that they brought in. It'll be. Hey, it'd be a great matchup.
ISO Joe Johnson
That'll be great.
Joe Johnson
We might get a chance.
ISO Joe Johnson
That'll be great for basketball. If them two teams can make it to the finals.
Joe Johnson
Oh, we.
ISO Joe Johnson
The ratings will be through the roof.
Joe Johnson
Oh, yes, Lord. Cause you got New York. Oh, my goodness. I'm not the guy that. I'm not a guy that minds flopping all that much. But SGA overdoes it. I mean, he was trying to ever play tonight, even on passes. I still got Jokic as the best player in the NBA even after a bad series.
ISO Joe Johnson
I understand what he's saying. I thought early Shay was a little overzealous with some of the excessive flailing that he was doing, but I. I got him as mvp.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, maybe. Maybe I missed it, but I haven't heard Spirit Airlines representatives say a damn thing about the airlines being shut down. Where is that accountability for America's abandoned out their money.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, out.
Chad Ochocinco
What money everybody gets. Especially if you fly that refund.
Joe Johnson
You shut down. I'm at the airport. You shut down. Damn. A refund.
Chad Ochocinco
Well, if you get the refund, you can book with another flight.
ISO Joe Johnson
No, I, I.
Joe Johnson
No, no, no. See, that's inconsistent. Inconvenienced.
Chad Ochocinco
It's inconvenienced, man. Listen, man, I'm already pissed off about my goddamn airline being gone. You know? So, I mean, I'm. I've been doing well. I've been coping. And, you know, the only airline man since 1992 has never had a fatality, never had a crash, man. Despite what people may say about, you know, customer service and the fights. You know, them. You know, them throwing your luggage off the plane and stuff like that. We never had an issue. We gonna get you from point 8.
Joe Johnson
You did have an issue. You had enough. You not enough people book flights. That's the issue you had.
Chad Ochocinco
No, it ain't. The issue we have is the goddamn goddamn fuel prices.
Joe Johnson
Okay, Guess what?
Chad Ochocinco
We need to bail out.
Joe Johnson
No, no. Whoa, whoa, whoa. How you taking American taxpayer money and bail it out?
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, hey. They take out. They take. Take some taxpayers money for every guy with my.
Joe Johnson
My money. No, no, no, no, no. Give me my ish back. Give me my tax money back.
Chad Ochocinco
It's all. Hey, listen, it's all good. We'll be back, and we'll be back stronger than ever, Okay?
Joe Johnson
I have two kids going on a field trip tomorrow at the same time. Which one do I go to? Rain, lightning or Noah's thunder? Lake of the home in four, got two kids on a field trip at the same time. Which one does she go to? Or egos.
ISO Joe Johnson
What they doing?
Chad Ochocinco
I mean, is it boy, boy, or girls?
Joe Johnson
Now, you just said he got two kids going on a field trip at the same time. Which one does he go to that matters?
Chad Ochocinco
Depending. The boy would understand me going. Going with yourself. I'm go. I'm gonna go with your sister on a. On a trip. That's a good one, right?
Joe Johnson
What you doing, Joe?
ISO Joe Johnson
I mean, we need a little more context, huh? I mean, it's just you ain't telling me what one doing or what the other doing.
Joe Johnson
It's just it feel. Trip. What the hell you doing?
ISO Joe Johnson
I'm saying, what we going on the field trip.
Joe Johnson
Might be some cool stuff. You might be okay. You going to this.
ISO Joe Johnson
I'm going to the zoo now. I like going to the zoo. I don't know about y' all was
Joe Johnson
going to the aquarium.
ISO Joe Johnson
I'm going to the zoo. I'm going to.
Chad Ochocinco
I'm going.
ISO Joe Johnson
I like. I like to see the animals, bro.
Joe Johnson
I'm.
ISO Joe Johnson
I'm a. I'm a huge fan of the animals. I love seeing animals, but.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Hey, hey.
ISO Joe Johnson
I'm go.
Joe Johnson
One of us. Hey, mom, you taking off a date? You taking off. If you working a half day tomorrow and you go into you going to on the field trip with them. Okay, so, Ocho, if you could make a dream movie, what would it be about? What? Five active actresses, dead or alive, would you start in it?
Chad Ochocinco
Five. Five is too many. Five is too many.
ISO Joe Johnson
But, you know, give me a Roko. I want a Roko. Romantic comedy. How many? Who I want acting in it.
Chad Ochocinco
Huh?
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Yeah. Who you want? Who you want in your dream movie?
ISO Joe Johnson
Gotta have eddie murphy, bro. Who?
Joe Johnson
You move, Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco
Shoot. Well, hey, boy, That's a good one right there, boy. If anybody got a gotta, you know, as an actor that's gonna play me, it probably have to be Tyrese or probably asap.
Joe Johnson
Well, you won't get that ASAP up, will you?
Chad Ochocinco
What? I mean, obviously got to be someone that look identical or somewhat like me. I mean, that's. That's. I mean, that's it. Maybe Bouquet Woodbine, But what type of movie? I don't know. For me, my personality, it got to be a copy.
Joe Johnson
Gotta be Got what you got?
Chad Ochocinco
Because you.
ISO Joe Johnson
You put.
Chad Ochocinco
You put me in something serious, boy.
Joe Johnson
Like, nah, you know, I'm what you call them. I'm suspicious. Yeah, Give me Denzel or Samuel Jackson.
ISO Joe Johnson
You can't go wrong, boy.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, Denzel. I mean, if Denzel get. If Denzel get on anything. I mean, I saw. The first movie I saw Denzel in was he played Biko about Bantu. Steven Biko in apartheid South Africa. He was. Ended up killing him, basically. He was a very similar situation to a Mandela. And Denzel don't do.
ISO Joe Johnson
No, he don't, bro. I wonder. Hey, I wonder. He gonna make another equalizer, bro.
Chad Ochocinco
You like. You like all three of them?
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, man. He be killing them to me.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, he'd be killing a TV show.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, speaking of Denzel, y' all seen a new man on Fire on Netflix?
Joe Johnson
I have.
Chad Ochocinco
Did you like it? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I gotta check.
Joe Johnson
It ain't Denzel, right? Any last wishes? I wish you had had more time.
Chad Ochocinco
Classic.
Joe Johnson
Cry Freedom. Whoa, B. Go Keep on marching. Y' all know I got that on dv. You know what? A laser discard show?
ISO Joe Johnson
No, what's that?
Joe Johnson
Who they were giant. They're giant CDs, but they play movies.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, yeah, yeah, I remember them. That's back.
Joe Johnson
I still do you. I still be watching. I got. Yeah, I got. I got them. I still watch. Sometimes I go home and be watching. I be keeping all my stuff.
Chad Ochocinco
I don't see how you do it, bro.
Joe Johnson
I got all my. I got my old CDs, all my old CDs. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, hey. What is.
Joe Johnson
What.
Chad Ochocinco
What that mean? What? Well, when it comes to me. When it comes to detachment and having to detach from something, Joe, why do I do it so easy? Is that some type of. You think I need, like, therapy or something?
ISO Joe Johnson
No, you got some people who are just herders who just keep everything that they got or the head, and some people, they don't. It don't make them no difference. You know what I mean?
Joe Johnson
Right. I'm big in the sentimentality. I. I hate. You know, because I look at it like, man, I work, man. Do you know how hard I work for this? I mean, I want it, man. I saw that thing and they're like,
ISO Joe Johnson
man, I really want that.
Joe Johnson
It's just hard for me to get up off it. Like those banging Olufsen. You remember Banger Olufsen? Yeah, Guys, I got that five. I got the. I got the one single, and I got the one.
ISO Joe Johnson
But I ain't getting up off that now. I know you paid a pretty penny for that, boy. Ain't nothing else.
Chad Ochocinco
The banging. The banging.
Joe Johnson
Banging Olson, Banging Olufsen. They make.
ISO Joe Johnson
They make good speakers and headphones.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, man.
Joe Johnson
Oh, okay.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I know. Yeah. Yeah,
Joe Johnson
they used to. They started that. They had a thing that. You could put the CDs in there, and the CDs will play. It would play the CDs. Your DVD. Excuse me. DVDs.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, hey.
Joe Johnson
Almost like a net.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, speaking of CDs, I used to have that big booklet back in the day with all your CDs in there.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, that's what I got my ear right now.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Hey, I wonder. I wonder where my booklet is.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, I think I lost. I lost that, man.
Joe Johnson
Ojo, you had your. I had a couple bookings, boy.
ISO Joe Johnson
I had some boy.
Joe Johnson
Hey. Yeah, but I got. Got him in Atlanta, right up under the thing.
Chad Ochocinco
I had a nice. Had a nice recollection, Joe.
Joe Johnson
Damn.
Chad Ochocinco
In alphabetical order at that.
Joe Johnson
Yep. What up? Uno ISO. Y' all should make a big three. A big three. Basketball team. Team Nightcap.
ISO Joe Johnson
Who we gonna play again? N.
Chad Ochocinco
Everybody else.
ISO Joe Johnson
Come on, let's do it.
Chad Ochocinco
Cause, you know. You know I'm gonna. I'm giving you.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, we need. We need you to play your role now, Ocho. We need you to play your role.
Joe Johnson
We know you're gonna give us nothing.
Chad Ochocinco
I'm gonna be like Kyrie.
Joe Johnson
See, there you go.
ISO Joe Johnson
What are you saying?
Joe Johnson
I'm gonna be like.
ISO Joe Johnson
We don't need that. We don't need Kyrie on this Team, we good?
Chad Ochocinco
Well, who the hell gonna steal the ship? Cause uncanny.
Joe Johnson
Listen, you just.
ISO Joe Johnson
Y' all just give me the damn ball. That's it. You ain't gotta worry about nothing else here.
Joe Johnson
Joe. Say y' all rebound and let me do the rest.
ISO Joe Johnson
I need you to hustle and play defense, Ocho, just hustle and play defense.
Chad Ochocinco
I'm hustle man, too, Joe. I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be in a. Well, he ain't getting nothing. Hey, you ain't getting. Hey. Hey, Joe. Hey. I can slide these puppies like no other boy. Hey, they used to. Hey. They called me Fred. And stay on the guy.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, and when we pass it to you, we need you to make your damn layups, okay?
Joe Johnson
No, no, no, no, no. When you pass it to you. Oh, yo, pass it back.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, yeah, I'm ready.
Joe Johnson
So do shooting sleeves actually help your shot, or is it just drip?
ISO Joe Johnson
It's drip, man. But it's drip. But it's a lot of cats who, you know, got that bursa sack. What is called bursa. And. And I had.
Joe Johnson
Yep.
Chad Ochocinco
Versus sack. I had one.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah. I've had elbow surgery, so some of us really need it, but some. It's just an accessory.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, they. They just. Hey, I told the story. He actually needed it because he. Yeah. Versa. And so he put it on there and to keep the color down, and people thought he would.
ISO Joe Johnson
And now it's a whole trend, his versus, it was. It was, like, big and full of, like.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
ISO Joe Johnson
Like.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Hey, falling on that turf. You fall in the right place on
Joe Johnson
that turf, and that thing blow up every time.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey.
Chad Ochocinco
I hate. Hey, Joe. It feel funny when you be.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Walking. Because.
Joe Johnson
Ocho. Cinco. Cinco de Mayo. OKC Window. Unk is still Lakers and five, though. Nah, but we gonna get a game. I know that by being Star Wars Week. Would y' all be a red lightsaber Sith or any color lightsaber? Jedi Knight.
ISO Joe Johnson
I ain't gonna lie. I don't know nothing about no damn Star Wars.
Joe Johnson
I ain't that big in the sci fi, either, I guess. I want to be a Jedi.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, so what you know about. What you know about Star Wars?
Chad Ochocinco
Shoot. I know.
Joe Johnson
I know.
Chad Ochocinco
Yoda, huh?
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, you thought.
Joe Johnson
Well, yeah. RTD2RTD3PO. Darth Vader.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah, we. We all know.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, Luke Skywalker.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, we all know about the same Princess Leia.
Joe Johnson
But I think I'm gonna be a Jedi. I want to be a Jedi.
Chad Ochocinco
I want to be. I want to beat Chewbacca.
Joe Johnson
Okay, you could be Chewbacca. Why don't people talk about how good Walter Payton was when mentioning great running backs? Cause a lot of people don't remember when Walter played.
ISO Joe Johnson
How many games were they playing back then?
Joe Johnson
Well, originally they were playing 14, then they moved it to 16.
ISO Joe Johnson
What is that now? Is that what they're trying to put it?
Joe Johnson
17. About to be 18.
ISO Joe Johnson
So all them little records that was going on back then, people breaking them.
Joe Johnson
Oh yeah. What?
ISO Joe Johnson
Why don't they mention Walter, bro?
Joe Johnson
OJ's record? I think he run for two. What do you write for? 273. Think OJ had the record? I think Walter broke it on. Broke it on Thanksgiving, I think.
Chad Ochocinco
Well, Walter Paint was nice boy.
Joe Johnson
And then Corey Dillon ended up breaking it against the.
Chad Ochocinco
Again, I guess. Against who?
Joe Johnson
The Broncos? Yes, but I wasn't there, so I don't know nothing about it.
ISO Joe Johnson
Dylan was a bad boy, wasn't he, man?
Joe Johnson
And then Jamal broke it because Dylan went for 278, Jamal went for 290, 295. And AP went for 296. But I think, I think Walter had 275. I think O.J. had 273. And Walter might have had 274. 275. Oho. Appreciate that song suggestion. Here is one of y' all ladies. Oh honey. By the delegation.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm. Hey, hey.
Joe Johnson
Hold on.
Chad Ochocinco
Now.
Joe Johnson
That completes this episode of Nightcap. Want to thank each and every one of you for joining us tonight as you watch the Thunder and the Detroit whole serve at home take one zero leads the Thunder one one zero eight nine zero over the Lakers. Detroit one 111101 over Cleveland. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite unc. And there's my partner and co host, a six time pro bowler from the Cincinnati.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey Joe. You see that Joe?
Joe Johnson
That is Chad Ochocinko Johnson and seven time NBA all star from the Atlanta Hawks, University of Arkansas alum that is ISO, Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys for your support and your continued support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shade by Laportier head over to laportierconjac.com to purchase you a bottle. If one is not available in your state or city, it is a premium VSOP cognac. Remember we do have the OG bottle, which is the 750, but now we have the Junior which is the 375. Same great quality, same great taste, same smoothness compared against other cognacs. You may or may not try it and you'll see the difference. You'll be able to taste the difference immediate. Please drink responsibly and stay safe Again. Thunder take a 10 lead thanks to a 10890 victory over the Lakers. Chet Holmgren led the way, 24 points, 12 rebounds, 3 blocks. A steel did it all tonight. Hey, we got your favorite guest coming on tomorrow. Cornbread will be on with us. Bread will be on with us tomorrow. Detroit take a one on lead thanks to a 111101 victory over the Cleveland Cavaliers. Thank you guys for joining us. We look forward to seeing you guys tomorrow night.
ISO Joe Johnson
Peace out SA.
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Nightcap Hour 2: Austin Rivers Claps Back at Draymond Green + Jeremiah Smith Buys Dream Car
Episode Date: May 6, 2026
Podcast: Nightcap (Shay Shay Media & Playmaker)
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe, Chad Ochocinco Johnson, ISO Joe Johnson
This episode dives deep into recent sports controversies and player stories, focusing especially on the heated back-and-forth between Austin Rivers and Draymond Green. The hosts—Shannon Sharpe (Unc), Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson (Ocho), and ISO Joe Johnson—give their unfiltered opinions on the NBA, NFL, college football, and athlete culture, from instant playoff reactions to lively banter about NIL deals, dream cars, and locker room stories.
Fun, brash, and authentic, the conversation blends deep sports analysis with locker room banter and nostalgia. The hosts' chemistry shines through Q&A, call-ins, and playful trash talk—always maintaining their “uncensored, uncle-in-the-barbershop” presence.
This episode captures the spirit of Nightcap: real talk on sports, legacy, and life, peppered with laughs, barbershop wisdom, and the insights only true insiders can deliver.