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Joe
they won the championship, beat OKC in 2013. What happened? Yeah, that be San Antonio both of those years. Tell Joe what happened. LeBron James was the MVP of the league. So now he has two regular season. He has four regular season MVPs and he has two championships with two finals MVPs. Yeah, he goes back to Cleveland, he gets another MVP. I mean he gets another finals and an MVP. So now he got four regular season MVPs, three finals MVPs. Guess what? 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18. He's a seven time first team all NBA selection. He's a 13 consecutive time first team all NBA selection. No, I don't think it's consecutive. I think it's 12. But he has 13 which is the most overall. I think the next closest is about 11. Now he comes to LA, he gets another MVP. Finals MVP. So now since I made this tweet, he has two regular season MVPs, four championships, four Finals MVPs, seven All NBA selection. He goes to the Finals in 2012, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18.
Ocho
God damn.
George
Oh yeah.
Joe
So that. So that shouldn't change nothing. That shouldn't change nothing. I want to know the guy that got in a seven year span, tell me the guy that got that kind of resume.
George
Hell it ain't one Hell it ain't what you know. Hey, hey, you know they ain't gonna miss him till he gone, bro.
Joe
Yeah, love Jordan.
George
It's gonna be too late.
Joe
I go. I don't just watch highlights of Jordan. Like I said, I remember when Jordan hit the shot in the Superdome against Georgetown. James Worthy was on that team. James Worthy was the most outstanding player. That was Patrick Ewan's first year, y'. All. If you don't remember Patrick Ewing, I think the first three to four shots he goaltended because John Thompson wanted him to send a message. He wanted him to intimidate him. So he just going up there, I mean, got this, this much over the rim, pulling it down. Goaltending, goaltending. Swing the shot. They swing it, swing it. 18 year old kid. Do you know how much confidence you got to have in an 18 year old kid when you got James Worthy on your roster to take that shot and not James Worthy who had played out of his mind. So I remember that. I remember he came in the league, I thought he was great. I didn't see this. Nobody's everybody. Oh yeah, no, you didn't. You did not see this man doing this. Nobody did.
George
He superseded. Yeah, he superseded expectations and I watched him.
Joe
You're not gonna see another rookie come in, Joe, and average 29, almost 29 points a game. It ain't gonna happen. Even in today's game, as open as it is, he was just, he was just on another galaxy. He was just like we had never seen anybody. We saw Dr. J, you know, could do certain, but the, what he could do, Connie Hawkins could elevate, not, not like him. And then when he got, he got that shoe. It was a rap.
Ocho
It was a rap that sealed the deal.
Joe
When he came out with that shoe, it was over. It's over, right? Nobody gonna touch him. I don't care if somebody come out and they average 40 points a game for 10 years and win 10 championships, they're not gonna surpass him. Not in terms of aura. Nah, can't do it, Joe.
Ocho
You can't. You heard what you just said and you see how nobody would be able to unseat Jordan and what he's done and the impact he's had on culture, not only with what he did on the court, but what he did off the court. Kobe is still in that same conversation, Joe. He's in that same conversation. What he's done on the court and off the court, no matter who comes after him, whether they're better statistically, that's, that's where the, that's what, that's where the, that's where the pushback come from. When you talk about LeBron and what he's been able to do, that's why so many push back on it. Even though LeBron has been better, even in times of when, when, when he's been older, you know, and being able to sustain the consistency at, you know, at 30 and 35, even now, still at 41, even as great as LeBron has been, it will still be Kobe no matter What? No matter. Regardless of who you talking to, there's nothing you can say. There's nothing that you can do to unseat that.
Joe
But we understand me having a degree in history. I understand it.
Ocho
Yes, sir.
Joe
You do realize that Dr. King became more popular in the death than he ever was?
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
Do you realize that when he was alive, 60, 60, 65% of the black people hated him? Yeah.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
See, they won't tell you that, though, but they'll quote Dr. King and white people. It was 90. He was the most hated man in America.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
You do realize that Muhammad Ali didn't become beloved because until he couldn't talk. But they don't want to have a real conversation with me. Oo. They don't want to have that because even his own people, because they say, if my son got to go to Vietnam and they got to die, what makes him better than our kid? Y' all don't want to have real conversations. Y' all want to. Y'. All. I'm telling you what I know. Look it up. Google it, y'.
George
All.
Joe
Google everything else. Google it. How despised Dr. King was. How despised Malcolm X was. How despised Muhammad Ali was.
George
Yeah.
Joe
Hello. It's amazing how figures become beloved in death much more than they were. Go back and look at some of the tweets that people said about Kobe. I remember when PD people that's praising him now was getting on networks and saying he was a ball, saying he was selfish, saying, I don't y'. All. But see, why can't we have an open, honest conversation? And that's not to put Kobe down. Kobe did what he did, but we got to be honest and tell the truth now. History. We got to talk about history, not his story.
Ocho
That was a bar.
Joe
That was a bar. If it happened. If it happened on this day in 1955, it happened. And you can't move it up or you can't move it back. It happened.
George
Yeah.
Joe
Y' all ain't. Y' all ain't. Y'. All. Y'. All. Y' all ain't alone. Why ain't nobody Googling about how people that look like Dr. King hated him and Muhammad Ali? Why are y' all not Googling that? Y' all Google everything else. Ocho and I say. You call. Ocho say, man, you know what, Unc? I got up this morning, 6 o'. Clock. That's a lie. Oh, Lion. Ocho, I put chocolate milk. I put chocolate milk on my steak, man. Ocho. No, he lying.
Ocho
Hey,
Joe
Kobe is great. LeBron is great. But if you notice when we talk about other great players, they don't try to take a dump on any other great players. When we talk about them, the only one, when we talk about magic, when you say Jordan is better than Magic, they don't try to dump on Magic, they don't dump on Larry, they don't dump on the other greats. Only one player. But we're going to move on. We're going to move along. Lord have mercy.
Ocho
What happened?
Joe
Tim Hardaway senior compares LeBron James to Jordan, James Harden and says he doesn't have the killer instinct. Magic Michael Kareem Colby had that killer instinct. I love Braun, but at times he doesn't bring it the way we. So you see what he said? Hold on, what? What did he say? W e we. We. Those are your expectations. Now, who's hit more clutch shots? Who's hit more game winning shot? But he ain't got to kill instinct. Lord have mercy. I mean, I mean, I mean, he did say, didn't have Hardway say he take Grand Hill or Penny Hardway over LeBron,
George
did he really?
Joe
You see how Joe turned his head?
George
He say that? He said that?
Ocho
For real. Hey, hey, hey. You're gonna have a select few. You're gonna have a select few that. Hey, listen, Joe. You're gonna have a select few that played the game at a high level.
Joe
I hate to quit y', all, but I want, I want to make sure he said, I quote, I would take Prime Penny, Prime Grant over Prime Les,
George
man, come on, bro.
Joe
You see people say anything? You see how people say anything?
George
Hey, hey, hey, hey. And Penny, Penny, one of my favorite players out to mj, bro. It's mj then Penny. But damn, we gotta be. We got to keep it 100, bro. We got to keep it 100. These guys who I enjoy watching coming up, but man, LeBron did he, he's been different since he's entered the NBA.
Ocho
Fellas, maybe, maybe, maybe Hardaway don't like him personally or something.
Joe
I'm trying to figure out. I'm trying to figure out. They make it seem they do realize like Bron was a five time first team all NBA pick, right? And he probably should have won the defensive player of the year. One year the media voted him number one, the coaches didn't. Another year the coaches voted in number one, the media didn't. But he's an all NBA, all defensive selection.
George
Damn.
Joe
Come on. I mean, we got, we gotta stop this now and we'll do. If he hadn't got hurt well, if, if Brandon Roy hadn't got hurt. How many times can we do that about a player, Joe? If he didn't get hurt, Ocho and I sport, if he didn't get hurt, man, what could Gail say's career been? What could Sterling Sharp's career been? Terrell Davis, how many guys can we say that about? Follow Grant. When Grant was in high school, when college with Duke, him and Kristen Laitner and Thomas Hill and Bobby Hurley. He was phenomenal. He was a phenomenal, phenomenal, phenomenal player. That last time we had cold rookie of the year was him and Jason Kidd. Yeah, they were co rookies of the year. He was phenomenal. He was. Penny was sensational and Penny was only. He said, man, when I had that surgery, he said, he said I wasn't the same. So end up having. I think he ended up saying he had micro fracture where they drilled holes in the bone. Try to let the blood, you know, try to let it heal on its own. Some people have great success. I think Kenyon had it. I think Kmart had it.
George
Yeah, T. Mac had it too.
Joe
Yep. T. Mac said it. Yep.
George
Yeah. Chris Weber had it. That microfracture, they don't even do it.
Joe
I don't think they do it. Do they still look and see if they still perform microfacture surgery? Because you don't think they do. Bruce Smith had it. Rod, Rod Woodson had it. Obviously Bruce and Rod top 100 players all time in the history of the NFL. Rod came back and moved to safety and man, Rod got like 70 something picks.
George
I think Amari Stoudemire had it.
Joe
I think he did too. He said, actually they googled. They still had. They still perform it, but it's not the go to. Basically you get that, say, yeah, yeah, I ain't playing no more.
George
Damn, that killed a lot of crazy. Yeah.
Joe
Yeah. And that's the thing. Just think if they had, if they had modern medicine now. Oh, children, you take it back 30 years. And that's the thing. Medicine just get better and better and better. Yeah, they used to cut you. When I got, when I got a bilateral, my brother, they used to go through your glute and replace your hip. Yeah, they cut that big ass muscle. Ah, now guess what they do. Ocho, put a little incision in there. Take that robot. That robot go in there. They. Done put it right on there. You in and out. Mr. Sharp, as soon as you can get up and walk, walk and fly the steps a couple of times, you can go, Shelly, help me get up. Hey, Joe, man, I was in so much pain. But I gotta say, man, I gotta get up out of here.
George
Hey, I was the same way, bro. I was the same.
Joe
I'm hurting. Cause I still got the catheter in me. I say if y' all take this out.
George
Oh, Lord.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
They say as soon as you walk up these flight of steps, like three times, Mr. Sharp, you can go. And if you can empty your bladder. Give me some water before I go. I drunk that water. I went down the flight of steps. I was hovering. I said, lord, I was dripping my teeth, tears running down because that thing. I was in so much pain.
George
Hey, hey, hold on. So if you get it. If you get hip surgery, they have to put a decathlet.
Joe
They did.
George
I'm saying, anybody?
Joe
Yeah, that's what they do. I. I don't know. Maybe it was. Maybe it was my age. I don't know. But I was like, lord have mercy. Oh, my God.
Ocho
The catheter. That's what they put down your throat.
Joe
They put it down. They put it down your pee hole so you can pee. So, you know, you go, yeah, yeah. But I was eight. They said, Mr. Sharp, as soon as you walk up the flight and see. Walk up these steps two or three times, empty your battery, you could go. I said, shelly, help me up.
George
Hey. You was in pain like a boy.
Joe
I had just had surgery. The surgeon, I think they said the surgery was 90 minutes. They wheeled me back to the. They will wheel me back to the recovery room. They had me up. I was. In 10 minutes. I was like. I got back there to. Left me. I look out. They like, Mr. Sharp. Mr. Sharp. I opened my eyes. I see. I see the lady, the nerd.
Ocho
The.
Joe
The lady anesthesia lady. They gave me the anesthesia. I see Shelly. I said, okay. I said, you okay? I was like, yeah, I'm okay. There's like. As soon as you walk up a couple of flights of step and empty your bladder, Mr. Sharp, you can go home. I said, shell, help me up. Hey. She's like, shell, hold on. Hold on. I said, shell, she's like, your gown. Your gown is up. I said, damn that gown. Hey, George, I'm trying to get up out of the. Damn that gal. Hey, I'm sure that this lady. I see you got a big old diamond on the hand. And she told me before she got two kids, so. So, hey, hey. I'm trying to get up out of here.
George
Yeah.
Joe
I'm trying to get up out of here. I got up out of that thing, man. Hey, yeah.
Ocho
Hell no.
Joe
Oh, man. Yeah. Jody, they put that thing. Hey, I done had bilateral. Both of them got one in July, got the other in February. I need to get up out of there. Oh. Oh. Drake appeared to take a shot at LeBron at 1am in Albany. Who I shouldn't even been shocked to see you in that arena, but because you always made a career off switching up teams. Damn he who said this? Drake.
Ocho
Hey, I got a question. Not before Are we sure and now
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Ocho
Are we sure this wasn't AI and this is the part of the album Iceman that's coming out?
Joe
Yeah, he referenced. He, he referenced. Also referenced LeBron number and another line saying please stop asking what's going on with 23 and me. I'm a real one and he's not. It's in my DNA.
George
Damn.
Ocho
Yeah. Yeah, I got to. I got see, you got to be careful with some of this stuff, especially on the Internet. You know, I I ain't no telling. I would for me personally, yeah, I would wait until that album comes out because what we got the album come out what, May 14th.
Joe
Man, don't start me the line May 14th. Tomorrow it is.
George
Yeah.
Ocho
Hey, hey, Chat, y' all would know better. Do Iceman come out this this month or is it next month?
George
No, they come out this month.
Joe
Tomorrow night. It don't. Oh well, you going on east coast time because it's already. It's already. It's already the 14th on the East coast, but it comes out the 15th. OoJo.
George
All right,
Joe
Thursday Night at midnight, which will be Friday morning.
Ocho
I say we. We'll be on then. We'll be on it, right?
Joe
No, we off tomorrow.
Ocho
Nah, nah, nah, nah. I ain't got nothing to do.
Joe
We can have. We need a break.
Ocho
I don't need.
Joe
I mean, you and Joe did such a good job. I mean, y' all could. You know, you. You can handle it.
George
Hey, hey, hey.
Joe
No, that mean we gotta work. No, no, no, no, no. That don't mean I gotta work. Joe say Joe got it. Joe say he got his thing covered.
Ocho
Hey, so, man, y' all see.
George
Y' all see that intro?
Ocho
Hey, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. That's not fair. That's not fair.
George
What's not fair, Joe?
Ocho
Reading from something. I was. I went off the top of the head.
Joe
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
George
I went off the top of the head.
Ocho
So now if you. Hey, hey, I seen you put the script in front of you.
George
Hey, hey, listen, listen. Don't get mad at me because I was prepared for my opportunity when my opportunity presented. Don't be.
Joe
Don't be mad at me.
Ocho
I'm not gonna be mad.
George
But listen, you can't beat. Hey, you can't beat me in. You can't beat me in that. You can't beat me in the intro. You can't beat me in the outro.
Joe
You can't beat me.
Ocho
If I got it written in front
Joe
of me, I would definitely beat you. Oh, Joe. So you want. Oh, you want. You want. You want the intro on Friday?
Ocho
Listen, give me the intro on Friday and have it for me written out like he did. And watch what happened.
Joe
They had nothing for me.
Ocho
Joe, I see you put the intro funny before you started.
George
Ask. Ask, did they. They ain't sent me nothing.
Ocho
Hey, you think I'm a fool, boy? I was born at night.
Joe
I was doing that night.
George
I'm telling you the truth. I'm telling you the truth.
Ocho
Hey, Joe, you ate a lot. I don't care who. Tell him.
Joe
He really didn't know he was supposed to be doing it because he was like. And I just told him, hey, Joe, you got the intro Now, I don't know if he had, but I know. Hey, we didn't send him anything.
George
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
Ocho
You saw him put the clipboard right in front of him, right? He got the portier. He got the laportier scripting all down, like. Come on, man.
Joe
What. What.
George
What are we talking about? Listen, listen, listen, listen. After yesterday, after that happened, when they sprained. It on you. I said, boy, look, I'd rather be prepared for an opportunity than to be unprepared for an opportunity.
Ocho
I like mine better when mine was authentic and organic without no script.
George
I said, hey, I gave your props. I said,
Joe
you know what yours was? Okay, I'm gonna put it to the boat chat. Who had the best intro? Ocho.
Ocho
And you put it to the chat. Of course they're gonna say, here's better because he's scripted, I'm off the top.
Joe
Hell, he know it.
Ocho
Hey, when you. Hey, when you. Hey. When you go off the dome with no help, then let me know.
George
Damn.
Joe
Hey, you mad?
George
Hey, don't get mad at me, bro.
Ocho
Hey, what I'm mad for? Hey, you. Hey, you need. You needed help. You needed help.
George
You.
Ocho
You put. I didn't need help.
George
Y' all put that back on quarterback. Y' all let me get some reps. Your ass in trouble, you hear me?
Joe
Oo. So you go ahead, prepare. You got the intro on Friday night.
Ocho
But listen, this. This is the thing. One thing about it. If you give me a script and it's in front of me and I'm reading it and I. And I could be animated, he gonna lose.
George
They didn't get.
Joe
Let me finish. They didn't get it.
Ocho
Hey, let me tell you something. Hey, when you want to talk, raise your hand. I'll call on you, okay? Hey, hey, you know how I am. Especially when you. When it come to me being on camera and you give me a script, he gonna lose regardless, because that's what I do.
George
Would you tell this man
Joe
we did not send Joe a script? We did not send him a script. Honestly, I tell you.
Ocho
I tell you this. He looked at the intro and wrote everything down. I tell you that. He said the same things you say
George
verbatim in his words.
Ocho
So what we talking about?
Joe
Oh, my goodness.
Ocho
And still,
Joe
I mean, he got the portier. It's a premium, like an exo. Hey, hey, hey. I'm talking about he word for word.
Ocho
I'm like, what the hell?
Joe
Hey, I want to thank you guys for your eyes, ears, and your word of mouth. Hey, matter of fact, hey, Ocho, he been listening. Because all this is. We. We. We never had a script. So even when I do the club Shay Shay, it ain't no script. That's just me. And over the years, you just remember.
George
Yeah.
Joe
So I tell you what. Hey, listen, she said no.
Ocho
You just go, hey, listen, tomorrow. I mean, Friday, when we come Friday, right?
Joe
Yeah.
Ocho
I'm gonna do the intro I'm gonna change the intro completely, okay? I'm gonna still talk about laportier.
Joe
It's your. It's your intro. You do it how you.
George
Yeah.
Ocho
Hey, now I'm gonna show you. I'm gonna show you how it's supposed to be.
Joe
I'm gonna show you how it's supposed to be.
George
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. I don't give a damn what you do. Give me my damn credit that.
Joe
You gotta give credit, though. Ocho. It was a good one. Now, come on now. It was good.
Ocho
Okay, I get to him. Hey, one to 10. It was a five.
George
Oh, man. Get the hell out of here.
Ocho
It was a five.
George
Get the hell out of here.
Ocho
Hey, listen, it wasn't. It wasn't authentic. It wasn't organic. You just re. You. You was you. It was regurgitated with uncle already say so, man.
George
Come on. All. All the.
Joe
The.
George
The stuff I gave you my partner
Joe
near my player partner.
Ocho
Okay, okay, okay.
George
One.
Ocho
Okay, okay, okay, okay. One to ten. I give you a six. Then I give you six.
Joe
Oh, the chat. The chat said the chat giving oo giving a ISO a ten. The staff gave him a ten. To oo. You got your work cut out for you tomorrow.
George
Oo. Oo. I said feet, not your hands.
Ocho
I know because I. I said. I said. I said that. Yeah, on yesterday's show, Joe. So you just added that to it. I said that yesterday, Joe. Hey, see now. Hey, one thing about it. Don't never let me get in my creative bag. Cause I'mma be in my bag Monday on Friday. Friday, Friday night show. It's gonna be on.
George
Hey, hey, hey. I know. You know one damn thing. I'm paying attention, you know that, so I hope so. Yeah.
Ocho
Hey, hey. I'm coming out. I'm gonna have smoking.
George
All
Ocho
y' all laughing and I'm have smoking all in my intro this. Hey, remember. Hey, remember how Dressy had the. Remember how Jersey had the fireworks for the Erica Erica Kirk thing?
Joe
Yeah.
Ocho
Yeah. That's how my intro gonna be.
Joe
Oh, my goodness. I mean, he had it down. Say, please make sure you hit the subscribe button. Please hit the. Like, We can take some time off. Oh, Joe got it. Joe got it.
George
I got y' all telling you. Hey, look, that's how I was trying to show y'.
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George
I wasn't trying to show you up, Ocho. Yeah.
Ocho
Hey, Joe, you can't show me up. Why this me?
George
Look, look, here you go. I thought we were having real conversation.
Ocho
We have. Hey, I'm just letting you Notice me. Are we gonna have a conversation when we hit that court?
George
Hey, hey, y'. All. I'm in tears just thinking about that, boy. Hey.
Joe
Oh, man. Oh, man. But I feel bad because I, you know, look, LeBron was. LeBron and Drake were close. They hung out together, you know, man, you know, LeBron used to get. I mean, when Drake drops, Drake would drop something. Obviously, LeBron would get an opportunity to listen to it first. I don't know. I just.
George
Hey, man, you know, hey, them beefs go far, you know, hey, hey, if I'm beefing with somebody and you. And you play a partner with him.
Joe
Hold on.
George
I'm gonna look at you side.
Joe
Yeah, for sure. I'm. I gotta cut out everybody back. So the best thing is.
George
Yeah.
Joe
If somebody beefing, just go ahead and stay up out of it.
Ocho
Right?
Joe
You got to. Yeah, for sure.
George
Yeah.
Joe
You think I'll let somebody got a problem with Ocho and. Hey, man. And do you? No. Whoa.
George
Yeah.
Ocho
Yeah. Hey, hey, matter of fact, you know what's funny too, Joe? When you think about it, if there's anybody in the world that really don't like me, no matter what that says more about them,
Joe
I'm a very.
Ocho
Hey, Joe. I'm a very likable person, bro.
Joe
Yeah.
Ocho
You hear me?
George
Yeah, you are.
Joe
You know, you don't say that. You won't criticize. You ain't gonna say that bad about nobody.
Ocho
No, no, I've been getting better. I've been getting better.
Joe
No, no, you getting better. But I'm saying even. Even then. Yeah, they like, man, because even when you say something, people gonna think. They're gonna think, well, he just doing that for the show. He just doing that for clicks. And they don't realize. That's. Look, that's my honest assessment. Yeah. You know?
George
Yeah.
Joe
Me to say to. Even for me to say something critical, I gotta really sincerely, genuinely believe that, bro. I need. I need you to give me better than that.
Shaquille O'Neal
Yeah.
Joe
So if Ocho criticize you.
Ocho
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe
Bull time. You gonna go and tell you what it is. It is. Hold on. TI Rap. When does TI Album come out?
George
Oh, it's probably gonna come out soon.
Ocho
They say it come out on the 15th too.
Joe
Damn.
George
Yeah, I'm gonna see what the Cane talking about.
Joe
I mean, but even if Drake album is good, you think people will give him the credit that he deserves?
George
It depends on, like, hey, it's gonna
Joe
have to be a monster.
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George
No, I think it's gonna be good. I enjoy all the work that he's pretty much done, but I think he knows he, he probably wants to over
Joe
deliver in this TI album, come out in September.
Ocho
Nah, it come. No, it's a. On the 14th.
Joe
No, I say September.
Ocho
Oh, September 4th. Okay.
Joe
Yeah. September 25th.
George
Oh, yeah.
Joe
Maybe he got. Maybe dropping another single. Boy, they, they don't. That, that one he dropped. Boy, they play that. They keep that thing on tick tock.
George
Oh, yeah, yeah. Welcome to the checker flag running through the ring.
Joe
Yeah, yeah, but, yeah, but look, Drake, I mean, look, Drake been at the top for about 10, 15 while we playing.
George
Hey, at least I'm talking about.
Joe
Strong, strong.
Ocho
Yeah, he on a good Runway. You're on a good run.
George
Oh, he don't really miss too. Too much. No, I ain't really seen him miss. I'm gonna keep it real. I'm looking forward to this album.
Joe
Yeah, I mean, he got. I mean, look, I, I don't know. I met him one time. He was great to me. Hey, man, love you on Undisputed, man. Keep up the great work. Boom. That was it. I. I don't know. I don't know the man like that. I don't. You know, I listen to rap here and there. You know, I'm more of an old school type of guy. You know, I still listen to the old school rap.
George
Yeah.
Joe
Dedicated Tupac, big and stuff like that. But
George
hey, hey, chat, chat, y' all bear with me. I'm gonna try to see if I can get him as one of my guests when I take over when the ISO takes.
Joe
Oh, you'll get Drake.
George
I got, I got pray I got a decent relationship with him. I'm gonna see if I can get him on.
Joe
I'm gonna get him on. I come on. Can I come on? Oh, yeah. Hey, Ojo, can we come on? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ocho
Hey, when I go on vacation. But I'M on vacation, boy.
George
Oh, you know, hey, we're gonna have a. Oh, oh, we're going to have a good time.
Ocho
I'm going to be in the chat. Don't worry about it. I'm gonna be somewhere my feet kicked up with a. With a. With a Pinot colado.
George
With a Mai Tai.
Joe
Who?
George
A Mai tie. Top shelf.
Joe
My feet won't be kicked up, but UG might be. I'll be somewhere. I'll be somewhere. I'm gonna take a vacation, guys. You know what? I'm gonna really take some time. I'm gonna really get away. I'm gonna. I'm gonna decompress. I'm gonna turn. I'm gonna put my phone on dnd.
George
We're gonna lose his mind with his phone on D.
Joe
Yeah. Oh, yeah. But ain't nothing worse than a plane not having WI fi.
Ocho
Oh, hey, hey, listen, depending on how far you going, if you're going over water, it's gonna be. It's gonna be a little short period.
Joe
Coming back from New York or Jersey, that's six hours coming back to Vegas, no wife. Hey, man, I remember. I got. I said, man, I tell this lady, this flight attendant, she said, here, you can use my passer. You. You sleep like you. You real irritable. I said, can I use your phone? Can I use your WI fi? She gave me her WI fi code and everything.
Ocho
Yeah, not having WI fi hurt, boy. Especially if. If you're not sleepy and it's a long flight. Anything over three hours and you got
Joe
no w. Oh, yeah.
George
Oh, yeah.
Joe
Hey, I'll be flying from Vegas, from Vegas to la and it be killing me.
George
That's why I try. I try to sleep. Pretty much the flight.
Joe
Jordan be sleep. He don't even be on the f jor be. I ain't never seen nobody sleep like that. George sleep like a six year old. He sleeps from the location to the airport. He get on the plane, got his hoodie on.
Ocho
That means Jordan. Hey, hey, Jordan. Like when you have kids, you know when you got kids that are young.
Joe
Yeah.
Ocho
You know, you put them in a car when you. You can't get them to go to sleep. Driving around, driving around the corner real quick.
Joe
I think he got narcolepsy.
George
Hey, hold on. I'm gonna tell y' all something. That's me. I'll be sleep for the plane take off.
Joe
I'm talking about go up, Joe.
George
Yeah, I'll be out of there. Hey, hey, look, I use them flights to give me some rest because that's it seemed like the flight go by a lot quicker when you sleep if you ain't sleep here. It seemed like the flight long. Where you coming from?
Joe
I mean, because we went to. We went to Can't B. Ash, Shelly. Who else on the flight with us? Just me, you and Shelly. Right. And Jamie. I stayed the whole while Ash tried to sleep. Now you ain't gonna sleep. I can't sleep. I did. Every time she tried to sleep, I let her get that thing good sleep. She. Hey, Ash, let me ask you something. Now I forgot what it was. God damn, my bad. I remember.
George
Hey, listen, I flew from Atlanta to Vegas, you know, probably what about four? Four? Man, I'm talking about out of there before the plane took off. Look, the Stuart, she steady tapping on me. She been tapping on me five minutes trying to wake me up. And I need you to put your seatbelt on.
Ocho
Damn.
Joe
All right, that's what I do. I put that on. Hey, I go ahead and put that on. Because that's the one thing I'll be sitting straight up. Cause I don't want. Because I. Oh, now you talking about like my grandma used to say, boy, hell flew all through me. That'd be dead sleeping there with me about a seatbelt to bring the seat up.
George
Oh, man.
Joe
But I need you to let your seat.
George
I need you to let your seat up. We ain't took a wing. We ain't. Come on, man. I just got it back a tad bit. I just need a little lean in there.
Ocho
I don't sleep and I. I feel bad for people, especially when I'm in public. If you. If you sit next to me on the plane, especially in the exit row. Well, you better be ready to talk. You better be ready to talk. No, hey, Joe, I'm a Yappa boy. I'm talking about. I don't know you. I'm gonna ask, you know, where you from? How you doing? How's your family? Do you like sports? Yeah, but, yo, why talk your head off? Random strangers. Random strangers. Why? By the time we land, I'm gonna know everything about you from A to Z.
George
Well, I'll be out of there most of the time.
Joe
I mean, the whole time, Shelly will fly, but Shelly don't sleep. So she constantly, you know, tapping me. But most of the time, if I fly with somebody, it's gonna be either Shelly, my sister, or Kayla. Yeah, Ash, you know, but see, Ash, obviously, she don't say nothing when I be bringing back the food, when I bring back the shrimp, or I bring back the Short ribs. She ain't got no problem. Be waking up in.
George
Yeah.
Joe
And everybody looking at her like, well, how you get that? She ain't got no problem. She ain't got no problem. Wake me up. Cause, you know, now they don't cut out the food service. I mean, what, 350 miles? Anything less than 350, you don't get nothing in the back. Yeah. Nice.
George
Damn.
Joe
For what? Man, did you see the price of them tickets? Not Joe and Ocho.
Ocho
Yeah, I'm glad. I ain't got to go. I ain't got to go.
Joe
My sister coming out in three weeks.
Ocho
How much was it?
Joe
Four weeks, a month.
Ocho
How much was it?
Joe
Like two to what?
Ocho
200. 2,000.
Joe
Hey, and.
Ocho
And.
Joe
And she flying. She don't. She.
George
I don't.
Joe
I don't think she flying. She. Well, she got to go to what you call her. She got like two or three stops, right?
Ocho
Yeah.
George
Oh, yeah. It's high. Boy, it's hard to fly.
Ocho
Well, that's. That's crazy. Well, I'm sure at some point the prices will go back down.
Joe
Yes. Yeah. How much you think was the fly for WWE Ocho?
Ocho
Oh, shoot. I don't know how much it was. Huh?
Joe
Yeah. 25 Honda.
Ocho
It was what?
Joe
Yes.
Ocho
Yeah, y' all gotta. Hey, you guys, let me. Let me. Let me book my own stuff.
Joe
No, we didn't let you book nothing. Hey, we gotta make sure you get your ass here. We're not letting you book anything.
Ocho
I. I get. I get that for the least. Least price possible. I don't care if I gotta have two, three stops.
Joe
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Now, my sister.
George
Come on.
Joe
My sister can have a couple of stops because she ain't on no schedule. Oh, no, you getting direct?
Ocho
Yeah, I mean, I'm just. I'm trying to save y' all money, man. You know, that's all I'm about.
Joe
Well, I'm gonna take your. I'm gonna put your freaking flybys. I'm gonna get your freaking fly miles. Hey, you know what? I tell you what you do. If you stop smoking them people hotel room. I greatly appreciate that, cuz. They kill him. They kill him by what you call for real. What you mean for Joe? This man talk about for real.
George
Yeah, that's a charge, bro.
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When they.
George
When they. Hey, you think you smoking on the low?
Ocho
People don't know when I smoked in the. In the hotel. Oh, you talking about out there.
Joe
Every hotel room you go to at the wind.
Ocho
Okay, just that time. Okay, I Mean, most of the time that.
Joe
Some other times. Yeah, Okay.
Ocho
I got you. I got you.
Joe
If you. If you. If you on ESPN or a Netflix, Dab.
George
Yeah.
Ocho
Oh, okay. I got you. I got you.
Joe
A Shay shit me today. Please go outside. Please, please go outside.
Ocho
I got you. I got you.
Joe
Yeah. And you know, now you know how the airlines are. The prices ain't never going back down.
George
Oh, no, sir.
Joe
They have to hold on. Thinking about Frontier. Frontier thinking about they might have to close that door. Because so now with less competition, how you gonna get from point A to point B?
Ocho
Hey, but see, it's the funny thing about it. If they want to play that game now, certain people are gonna have. Certain people are gonna have to stop flying. What you're gonna see. Everybody can't afford those tickets, especially not in this economy. So what's gonna happen? They're going to be forced. Joe. Make the prices affordable. At some point, you have to. Everybody can't afford. Everybody can't afford to fly like that.
George
Hey, hey, hey, hey, you right. But I just had to book a couple flights to Minnesota for next month for my daughter's volleyball tournament. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Caused me a few grand. 3, 530, because I book a month in advance.
Joe
I don't book my mama ticket.
George
Yeah, yeah. Hey, hey, I was gonna bring the fam out there. I looked at them damn ticket price. I said, hold on. It's just gonna be me and baby girl.
Joe
Oh, no, no. But hey, they going up. I mean, hey, a family. Yeah, family of four. You gotta fly first class. It's gonna cost you about 11, 12,000.
George
Yeah, yeah.
Joe
For sure. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So. But guess what? We gotta fly. I mean, that's. And I'm. I'm back and forth. I mean, I'm back and forth from Vegas to la. I mean, we. Hey, at least one.
George
So when we.
Joe
Hey.
George
So when we get in the nightcap plane.
Ocho
Hey, that would be crazy, man. You know, God. God. God probably gonna bless us. We'll be able to have our own private jet.
George
Yeah.
Ocho
And we, you know, we. We have it. Have it wrapped with the nightcap sign.
George
Yeah.
Ocho
I'm telling you. Listen, I'm telling you. I'm. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I. I know the way the man upstairs work. It's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. But y', all, you know how much
Joe
it takes to operate a plan. Ocho, I don't think you have any idea how much.
Ocho
I talked to Ross. I know how much it costs. Yeah, yeah. I'm telling me, gonna get us one.
Joe
And you see the fuel prices are going up. Hey.
George
Yes, sir.
Ocho
Somebody I know somebody. Hey, I got my homeboy, right? He work at the Opalaka airport. You know, most of the private planes fly at the Opalaka airport. I can get his g. I can get his fuel for the low.
George
Hey, hey. He oversee the shipments that come in. I got some stuff need to come
Ocho
through there, depending on what it is. Long as I get a percentage now
Joe
bad look here, I'm gonna do the best I can to make sure you guys fly first class and not have to buy comfort.
Ocho
Hey, let me tell you something. When we have something to do, you do not have to put me in first class. Just sit. Put me in the exit row. But I need the window seat. If I don't have the window seat, I. I'd be pissed off. I don't need. I don't need no first class. I don't need all that.
Joe
I mean, but when you. Bro, when you bring what you call them. Cambodia. Hey, Cambodia ain't gonna want to sit back there.
Ocho
She ain't got no boy first class. I mean, we don't. Hey, we. I don't. I don't. We ain't like that. We ain't like that. You know, we. We content Exit road just fine.
Joe
I'll keep that in mind. All right. O Joe, the 2026 Thanksgiving slate leaked and it's free. Hello. It leaked and it's. Damn.
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Ocho
Wait.
Joe
The day before Thanksgiving, p.m. eastern, the packers travel to Los Angeles to take on the Rams. Okay, and then you got Thursday game. Ocho, can you imagine a Sunday, Wednesday game?
George
Ooh,
Ocho
Wednesday.
Joe
Because Thanksgiving falls on a Thursday. So you got the Bears traveling to the lions. That's the 1pm game.
Ocho
Right?
Joe
You got the Eagles traveling to the Cowboys. That's the 4:30 game.
Ocho
Gonna be a good one.
Joe
You got the. The late game. Kansas City is at Buffalo. And then the Black Friday game is this Broncos at the Steelers. Hey. Hey, what.
George
What y. What NFL trying to do? They trying to take over.
Ocho
They trying to make that money that mon. Joe. And how do you make more. How do you make more money by slotting more games?
Joe
Gotta have a game. That's what they want. That's why they want that number one back. They want them one more game. Now I'm gonna give them another. I say I give them somewhere between three and five years, they got another playoff team, too. Cause Netflix, Netflix, in order to be considered a real. A real network, you got to have live events. The best live event you can get is NFL football.
Ocho
The best.
Joe
You see these screaming services?
George
Yes, sir.
Joe
Be surprised. Now, the NFL done came to him. Now they got an early opt out in 20, 30. They say, look here, y' all come on to the table with us now. We, hey, we'll extend this thing, but it gonna cost you a little more.
George
Yeah.
Joe
Now if y' all wait to 20, 30, we opt out, we're gonna really hit you over the head. We just gonna, you know, we're gonna tap you. We ain't gonna really hit you that hard. We ain't trying to knock you out, but we're gonna put a pumpkin out on your head. You gonna put a pump down up there. But hey, hey, and look, look. Look at what they got. They got Green Bay, la. They got Chicago, the Lions. They got Dallas, Eagles. They got Kansas City, Buffalo. They got Pittsburgh, Broncos. Pittsburgh. You're watching that?
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
Yeah, you watch it.
Ocho
Listen, hey, the NFL ain't no fool. They know what game's a slate.
Joe
Hey, if I'm in, if I'm the NBA, I ain't playing no Christmas game unless Christmas on a Tuesday, right? I ain't messing with the NFL.
Ocho
You can't beat me.
Joe
You not beat the NFL. You not. No nothing.
George
Hold on. But the NBA has always had Christmas.
Joe
Well, you will have less viewers because the NFL took that over. You see what the NFL did what? What day this year?
George
Hey, hey, y' all gotta slow down, Turbo. You know what I'm saying? Y' all gotta slow down a little bit. I understand what's going on.
Joe
Oh, Joe. Hey, it's a Friday. Christmas on a Friday. They gonna have two, three games. I bet you. I bet you they have two, three games on Friday.
George
Well, I guess we all will be playing on the same damn day.
Joe
Ocho, you ain't gonna have nothing but family and friends. They gonna be. They gonna be looking at both games. Fan of NFL. I'm telling you, man.
George
Damn. Hey, Ocho, y' all open up against the Falcons, huh?
Ocho
Nah, we got Week nine against the Falcons in Spain. In Madrid. Yeah, Week nine. I'm not sure who the opener is.
Joe
Oh, you was hoping that thing was in Atlanta so you can get Ocho down there. That y' all beat it. Beat their brains in. Ha. Joe.
George
Oh, man. Hey, look, I will. I think the Falcons gonna be pretty. I think they're gonna be decent, and I think they'll be able to beat the Bankers.
Ocho
Joe.
George
What we ain't talking about. We ain't talking basketball. We talking football right now. Leave basketball out of this.
Ocho
Okay, well, hey, listen, with all due respect, you know, to the Falcons, y' all got Bijan Robinson. You hear me? Y' all got my dog, aj Terrell, you hear me? Y' all got eight, Y'. All. Y' all got Drake, London, Young Bull, really run Bull. Nice. But y' all don't have enough firepower to do anything with anything over there. Offensively with the Bengals, they got a
George
better defense than the bang.
Ocho
Ain't got nothing to do with y'.
George
All.
Ocho
Y' all ain't gonna stop us regardless, man.
George
Please. I want to see that. It'll be a good game. Oo. I think the Falcons will get out
Ocho
on down there to Madrid then. Week nine.
George
Oh, no, I ain't gonna make it to Madrid. I'm going to Dallas, though, when y' all play.
Ocho
Wait, Dallas? What. What game?
George
I think when we go play the Ravens. Oh, what's up? What you.
Joe
What.
George
What you. What you want to do? Get some Ravens.
Joe
You going to Brazil? You going to Brazil?
George
No, I'm talking about. I thought you want to pull something.
Ocho
You gonna pay uncle if you win, huh?
George
Yeah, me and uncle got a good rapport.
Joe
See, what.
George
What me and you go through ain't got nothing to do with me at home.
Ocho
That's cool.
George
Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, they got nothing to do with me on.
Ocho
Hey, let me tell you hey, Joe, don't worry about it. But I'm gonna jump on. I'm gonna be on your head like a chicken on a June bug, boy. You hear me?
George
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Energy is the. Is the new currency, homie. I go based off energy and movement. How you move, how you act. So I just reciprocate that, you know, I. I give back.
Ocho
I like that, Joe. Hey, I tell you what. I'm gonna take what's mine, though.
Joe
Damn.
George
I don't know where you gonna get.
Ocho
Where you gonna take out your pockets?
George
I don't know, sir.
Ocho
You hear me?
George
That will not happen.
Ocho
Tell you that.
Joe
Ocho, you can't whoop your pockets, boy. Duty. You hear me? Oh, we played the Cowboys last year. We beat the brakes off the Cowboys.
George
We ain't talking about last year. We. Hey, hey, hey. If it ain't happened yesterday, hell, I don't really know nothing about it. I'm gonna keep it right. I forgot it.
Joe
You ain't forgot.
George
Okay.
Joe
We beat the brace.
George
So going forward. Going forward, we gonna see what y' all got.
Joe
Yeah. You know that defense. Hey, I defeat. Oh, sir. Tan was giving up nothing. You know that, Nathan.
George
Oh, look, he. Look, look, look. Hey, I noticed how you be flip flopping from the Broncos to the Ravens, depending on who. Who.
Ocho
Hey,
Joe
let me guess. You don't root for Phoenix.
George
Cool.
Joe
The Phoenix Suns, you know, another Phoenix team? Nah.
George
I mean, it depends. I don't really root for them like that.
Joe
You only root for the Hogs. You don't root for the Nets or nothing, huh? I'm.
George
I'm. I'm a real Hawks fan. Yes, yes. I'm a real Hawks fan.
Joe
I'm a bro.
George
So we play Phoenix. I'm all. I always got the Hawks.
Joe
But I'm saying, what about if Phoenix play somebody else?
George
Well, I ain't gonna lie to you. I bet it the Bucks was gonna win against the Suns in the finals a few years. Yeah, yeah. That's a secret. I really want that to get out.
Joe
But you didn't want to get out. Hey, but, yo, I did win a championship with the Ravens.
George
Yeah, I know, I know. I'm just saying, you use it. You use it to your advantage. I noticed. I, you know, I peep. I see what's going on, but everybody know.
Joe
Yeah, I got the Bronco. I mean, I got Broncos and stuff.
George
Yeah. So if Ravens went to bed and the Broncos play good. I know. It's how you go to the Broncos. The Broncos wet the bed and the Ravens.
Ocho
He did last year,
George
huh?
Ocho
Well, my. My quarterback was out. That's why y' all lost in the playoffs. You heard. You didn't hear what I said, huh? Our quarterback was out. And that was your excuse you use on why y' all got sent home? Your quarterback was that way, ain't it? Okay, just FYI, we'll see. And we'll see y'.
Joe
All. Oh, we definitely would have won this. We definitely would go into the Super Bowl. I ain't saying we would have won it, but we go. We would win.
Ocho
Yeah, I mean, with that defense, y' all would have had a good day.
Joe
Listen, what was last year?
Ocho
With that defense y' all had, there was a good chance y' all could
Joe
have won that, huh?
Ocho
With that defense y' all had last year, there's a good chance you still would have won it as long as your quarterback ain't turned the ball over.
Joe
We call some noise. Cause we can cover. We can put pressure on the quarterback. I bet you'd have been a better game than what the Patriots gave me.
Ocho
I mean, see, I. I could have told you that.
Joe
I bet you that. But that's all right. We'll see.
George
Yeah. Somebody.
Joe
One. Hey, somebody. Team ain't gonna be as good as they think.
George
I. I think we know who that is.
Joe
Who we a tell you.
Ocho
Talking to you, boy.
George
Yeah, we.
Joe
We just let it play.
Ocho
Talking to you.
George
Because, I mean, we'll let it play out. We'll let it play out. I. I'm g. Write it down. And it's gonna have a date on it. And I'm g. I got. I got a team on here. I know exactly who.
Ocho
Joe, One thing. One thing about it, boy. Everybody. That's a. Don't worry about it. You right.
George
Yeah.
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Episode: Nightcap Hour 2: Drake DISSES LeBron on ICEMAN?! + Unc's RESURFACED LeBron TWEET from 2012 + 2026 NFL Thanksgiving slate LEAKED
Date: May 14, 2026
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe ("Unc"), Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson, plus regulars George and Joe
Theme: Unfiltered, late-night takes on the intersection of sports (especially the NBA and NFL), superstar legacies, music beefs (esp. Drake vs LeBron), and the upcoming NFL season.
This episode dives deep into:
The tone is barbershop/couch conversation—playful, blunt, sometimes philosophical, and always passionate about sports and culture.
[03:02–13:34]
Unc revisits a 2012 tweet praising LeBron, tracking how LeBron eclipsed expectations over the years:
“So now since I made this tweet, he has two regular season MVPs, four championships, four Finals MVPs, seven All NBA selections… tell me the guy that got that kind of resume.” — Shannon Sharpe (Joe) [03:02]
Playful agreement and disbelief from Ocho and George as Unc holds forth on the rarity of LeBron’s accomplishments.
Unc and Ocho stress how a player's aura and cultural impact (not just stats) determine their place in NBA history—hence why Michael Jordan is “untouchable” in these debates.
“Even as great as LeBron has been, it will still be Kobe no matter what. Regardless of who you talking to, there’s nothing you can say. There’s nothing you can do to unseat that.” — Ocho [06:58]
Unc takes a dig at revisionist history in both sports and society, referencing how Dr. King and Muhammad Ali became beloved after their deaths despite facing hatred while alive.
“Dr. King became more popular in death than he ever was… when he was alive, 60–65% of Black people hated him.” — Shannon Sharpe (Joe) [07:59]
Ocho calls out how Kobe, too, saw a drastic change in public and media perception post-retirement and after his tragic passing.
They critique the tendency for fans and media to compare legends by tearing others down rather than celebrating greatness.
“When we talk about other great players, they don’t try to take a dump on the other greats… Only one player.” — Shannon Sharpe (Joe) [10:45]
[11:20–15:35]
“Who’s hit more clutch shots? Who’s hit more game winning shots? But he ain’t got the killer instinct, Lord have mercy.” — Shannon Sharpe (Joe) [12:05]
[18:58–24:05]
“He who said this? Drake.” — Ocho [19:24]
“You got to be careful with some of this stuff, especially on the Internet… I would wait until that album comes out.” — Ocho [23:21]
“LeBron and Drake were close... LeBron used to get to listen to [his music] first.” — Shannon Sharpe (Joe) [31:32]
[33:15–38:37]
“I got a decent relationship with [Drake]. I’m gonna see if I can get him on.” — George [38:33]
[39:04–49:53]
“If you sit next to me on the plane, especially in the exit row—boy, you better be ready to talk.” — Ocho [42:49]
[53:42–56:15]
They break down the leaked 2026 NFL Thanksgiving games:
The crew marvels at the NFL’s relentless expansion into new viewing slots:
“What NFL trying to do? They trying to take over.” — George [54:28]
Unc predicts the NFL will add more playoff teams and further push into streaming/live event deals to dominate broadcast revenues.
“Gotta have a game. That’s why they want that number one back, they want them one more game… Netflix, in order to be considered a real network, you got to have live events. The best live event you can get is NFL football.” — Shannon Sharpe (Joe) [54:37]
Speculation on the consequences for NBA Christmas games—might as well surrender to NFL dominance.
“If I’m the NBA, I ain’t playing no Christmas game unless Christmas on a Tuesday, right? I ain’t messing with the NFL.” — Shannon Sharpe (Joe) [56:06]
[57:05–59:48]
Joe and Ocho get into their teams’ matchups: Bengals will play the Falcons Week Nine in Madrid, Spain—trash talk ensues.
“Y’ all don’t have enough firepower to do anything with anything over there offensively with the Bengals...” — Ocho [58:02]
More back-and-forth about personal team allegiances (Broncos, Ravens, Bengals, Falcons, Hawks), player injuries, and whose team will really "take it all this year."
Ocho, ever confident, issues a playful threat:
“I’mma be on your head like a chicken on a June bug, boy. You hear me?” — Ocho [59:03]
| Segment | Time | |-----------------------------------------|---------------| | LeBron’s Legacy, Unc’s 2012 Tweet | 03:02–10:45 | | Kobe, Jordan, and Posthumous Greatness | 06:36–09:04 | | Killer Instinct & Tim Hardaway’s Take | 11:20–15:35 | | Drake Disses LeBron on “ICEMAN”? | 18:58–24:05 | | Album Release Date Debate | 23:03–24:05 | | Crew Vacation and On-Air Talent Banter | 24:46–29:31 | | Travel Stories & Flight Misery | 39:04–49:53 | | NFL Thanksgiving Slate Leaked | 53:42–56:15 | | Bengals/Falcons Madrid Preview & Trash Talk | 57:05–59:48 |
This episode is vintage Nightcap: quick-witted, deeply knowledgeable, and blending the worlds of sports, culture, and music. The crew tackles LeBron's permanent place in the GOAT debate, scrutinizes Drake’s rap game power moves, and has fun with everything from flight upgrades to NFL power grabs. Throughout, Shannon, Ocho, and co. keep it "authentic and organic" with plenty of good-natured trash talk and some real gems of truth about how legends are made—and unmade—on and off the court.
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