Nightcap Hour 2: Draymond Green OUT OF POCKET DISS to Charles Barkley, Caitlin Clark vs. A'Ja Wilson vs. Paige Bueckers PICK 1 to BUILD a Franchise around

Summary

Nightcap Hour 2: Draymond Green - Charles Barkley DISS, Franchise Picks in WNBA & NBA Playoff Talk (May 8, 2026)

Podcast: Nightcap
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe (Uncle Ocho), Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson (Liberty City Zone), Joe "Iso" Johnson
Date: May 8, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of Nightcap delivers fiery takes and sharp banter as the crew dissects Draymond Green's latest shot at Charles Barkley, debates the best player to build a WNBA franchise around (Caitlin Clark, A’ja Wilson, or Paige Bueckers), and gives instant reactions to key NBA playoff matchups. The hosts mix comedy, authenticity, and deep sports knowledge with their trademark confidence and chemistry.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Origin Stories & Upbringing

• Shannon Sharpe reflects on his humble beginnings, emphasizing how hardship shapes character and his relentless work ethic:
  • "I didn't have no shower. I didn't take a shower in a home until 1988." (04:00)
  • The crew reflects on why hard work should be credited over accusations of selling out.
  • Joe Johnson and Ocho agree that tough times fuel motivation and drive, leading to success in sports and media.

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2. Work-Life Balance & Travel

• Shannon and the crew muse about their discomfort with vacations and preference for work.
  • "If I retire, then what am I gonna do? I don't like to travel... All I want to do is go work out." (08:10)
  • A funny segment ensues about possible group trips to Jamaica, the Bahamas, and preferences for luxury travel (Maldives vs Miami).
  • Memorable moment: Playful ribbing about Ocho’s only overseas trip being motivated by a romantic pursuit rather than sightseeing. (11:47)

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3. Draymond Green’s “Out-of-Pocket” Barkley Diss

Segment starts 27:19

• The Incident: Draymond Green throws shade at Charles Barkley for his late career stint with the Houston Rockets.

  • "Dre said the goal is just not look like you in the Houston Rockets uniform." (27:24 – Uncle Ocho)
  • Ernie Johnson defends Barkley, highlighting Draymond's high turnover stats. (27:56)
  • Barkley's greatness is discussed—reminding listeners Barkley averaged 22 pts and 12 reb per game for his career, despite being 6’4”.

• Debate: Are rings the end-all for greatness?

  • "And I think Draymond, everything that he's been able to do, but what people have done, they've allowed rings to be the end all, be all." (29:10 – Uncle Ocho)
  • Joe Johnson: "But when you look at it, Draymond won four rings, and Barkley ain't never won no rings... Draymond ain't a better basketball player than Charles." (28:50)

• On Barkley’s Prime: Barkley’s dominance in Phoenix, his MVP, and old-school toughness are praised.

  • "If y'all don't do nothing else, go to YouTube and look up Phoenix Suns vs Bulls in '93, bro. Now MJ was a bad boy, you know? But I think Barkley won MVP that year." (30:42 – Joe Johnson)

• The crew laughs at how the modern era shortchanges legends for “rings” alone, shutting down Draymond’s comparison.

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4. WNBA Franchise Player Debate: Clark vs Wilson vs Bueckers (39:11)

• The Poll: 2026 GM survey—franchise pick between Caitlin Clark, A’ja Wilson, Paige Bueckers, and Dominique Malonga (France).

• Shannon’s Take: Full-throated defense of A’ja Wilson.

  • "I'm not taking a woman over Asia. Could she play defense? There’s not been a woman in the WNBA that has the total package what Asia Wilson has." (40:09)
  • Lists Wilson's accolades: three-time DPOY, three-time champion, two-time Finals MVP.

• Joe & Crew Agree: Wilson is the most complete player, head and shoulders above for starting a franchise—"If you're trying to win, ain't taking nobody over Asia." (41:20)

• Debate over Clark’s marketability vs. Wilson’s impact and past WNBA legends (Swoopes, Taurasi, Stewart, Parker, Jackson).

• Notable Quote: "If you got you a girl down there who can get something done like Asia, you play inside out, bro." (41:00 – Joe Johnson)

• Noted: Wilson just launched her own Nike signature shoe, the "A1" (47:35).

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5. NBA Playoff Instant Reactions and Fan Q&A (51:50)

Key Playoff Storylines

• Lakers and Cavaliers both down 0-2 after rough series starts.

• Lively discussion on the role of officiating, with fans calling in to vent about ticky-tack fouls and game control:

  • "They call this the BS call on LeBron pushing Caruso...They make the game unwatchable, I ain't gonna lie." (52:12 – Caller)

• The dynamics of big playoff moments and regrets—Joe Johnson recalls scoring 16 and grabbing 10 rebounds against MJ as a rookie and wanting to relive that experience (54:17).

• Knicks, Brunson, and the “what-if” of KD/Kyrie choosing New York rather than Brooklyn is discussed with a rueful fan and the crew. (55:41)

• Humor and banter about hypothetically fighting each other, favorite watches (Rolex, AP, Richard Mille – 65:16), and even best dancing trios. (75:10)

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6. Detailed WNBA Analysis and Trends

• Further breakdowns of MVP votes, team predictions, and rising stars (Angel Reese, Ryan Howard).
• Major praise for Wilson as among the greatest, with context on historic teams like the Houston Comets’ first dynasty.

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7. Closing Q&A: Wide-Ranging Sports and Culture

• Answering fan questions about NBA playoff adjustments (79:35), coaching, play-calling, and the demanding requirements for LeBron & co. to win.
• Playful back-and-forth about strip club hospitality in Houston, watch collections of celebrities, and comparisons of Michael Jackson vs Chris Brown in a dance battle.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On upbringings and drive:
  • "You can't walk a mile in my shoes...Walk 20 years in these shoes." (06:00 – Uncle Ocho)
• On vacation aversion:
  • "If I retire, what am I gonna do? I don’t like to travel, man...All I want to do is go work out." (08:13 – Uncle Ocho)
• On Barkley:
  • “At 6 foot 4, and five or six people...People don’t realize...That’s a bad boy.” (29:08 – Uncle Ocho)
• On A’ja Wilson:
  • “There’s not been a woman in the WNBA that has the total package what Asia Wilson has...I’m taking Asia Wilson over all of them.” (40:09 – Uncle Ocho)
• On KD and Kyrie’s decision:
  • "If Kyrie and KD would have went to the Knicks...they'd have tore it down." (57:28 – Joe Johnson)
• On hypothetical fights:
  • "Anything coming from the shoulders, boy you dead in the water...Joe, stop playing!" (60:21 – Liberty City Zone)
• On playoff officiating:
  • "They call this the BS call on LeBron...They make the game unwatchable, I ain't gonna lie." (52:12 – Caller)
• On watch collections:
  • "The only person I know two people, they got a watch collection...Mark Wahlberg. Jay Z." (66:54 – Uncle Ocho)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Draymond vs Barkley discussion: 27:19 – 34:53
• WNBA Franchise Player Debate: 39:11 – 47:43
• NBA Playoff Fan Q&A: 51:50 – 75:56
• Deep Cut Q&A (watches, celebrities, strip clubs): 65:16 – 75:56
• Coaching adjustments and sports strategy: 79:35 – 84:46

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Style and Tone Highlights

• The show is lively, unfiltered, and switches effortlessly between hard analysis, personal stories, and pure humor.
• The hosts maintain their signature playful but respectful banter, demonstrating both deep respect for the athletes they discuss and relentless competition with each other.

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Conclusion

Another high-energy Nightcap episode filled with old-school wisdom, new-school candor, and irrepressible humor. Shannon, Ocho, and Iso Joe prove again why they’re a must-listen for fans who want real talk on sports, culture, and everything in between.

Transcript

[Uncle Ocho]

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[Uncle Ocho]

I just always said it. I wonder. I'm bringing my memory book, and you can see what I. Because I've been saying that. I've been saying this since I was a freshman. I'm gonna be in the NFL. I'm gonna have a white Mercedes and all this. Yeah, every girl signed my memory book. Shannon, when you in the NFL, don't forget me. Were you rich and famous?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Remember, I was your home girl. I was your friend. Oh, I. When you grew up, like. Like I said, people, man, you grow up like you was in the 1940s. That was my life.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's how I grew up. I don't know what you want me to tell you. I didn't have no shower. I didn't take a shower in a home until 1988. That was the first time I took a shower in a home. The first time I actually took a shower. I think I was about this 5th grade FOH camp. I ain't even know how to turn the shower on, man. I got in there, I was like, damn. So I said, man, hey, man, this shower won't even work. It's like, what's wrong with it? It was just working early. I said, I don't know. I ain't know. You had to twist one thing and then twist another thing for the water to come out on your hell. I know, but 1988, when he got a new house, that was the first time I had ever taken a shower in a home. Hey, and you think I wanted to live like that for the rest of my life? That's what my grandmother. That's. That's all they ever know. And never taking a shower. Hey, those times, I want to live like that. I'm 58, so in 19, so 1988, my grandmother born. It. Granny was born in 21 or 22, so 88. So 66 years. My grandma had gone Outside to go to next. Stop it, man. And y' all thought I wanted to live like that. And y' all wonder why I'm like, how I am and why I want to protect. Man, you, man, you. You are hard to know because we didn't have a whole lot of things. We didn't have a whole lot of valuable stuff. We didn't have a whole lot of good stuff. But everything that we had, we worked our ass off for.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

And I hold it. I hold it dear,

[Joe Johnson]

please hey, hey. Those times shape and mold you, boy.

[Liberty City Zone]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Absolutely shaving mojo.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's what Ocho said, man. Ocho was asking me when we first started. He like, oh, how you get. How you get the key? I said, ocho, they didn't look out the window like you did. You looked at the window, and it was broken. They look out of a window, and it got 10 on the other side so they can't see in. You got a three, four car garage, yo. You had a carport or you parked out in the front. Yeah, it's different. You had one bathroom, maybe a bath and a half. They got six.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey.

[Uncle Ocho]

In order for somebody to see what you see, they got to look out the same window.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

People say, well, if they walk on my. No, no, no, no. And I told people, so you can't walk a mile of my shoes. So what if you walked a mile of my shoes? And that just so happened to be the best day of my life. I need you to spend 20 years and walk 20 years in these shoes. Now you get a sense of what it's like to go hungry or not have. And have to go outside and it's cold or have to go outside when it's hot and the mosquitoes are biting and go use the bathroom when it's raining. When it's a deluge outside, that's when you got to be in this body, in these. You walk these shoes. So when. When they try to tell me, oh, you got a silver spoon or you the Illuminati? I said, yeah, come on. Aluma. Who? That's what it. Any. Any. Any. Any person, black person that. That somehow worked their ass off and become something. I had to have sold your soul. You had to have sold something, man. Instead of giving somebody credit for working hard, that's too easy. Because I was willing to work for my goals, and you was too lazy to work for yours. So you said, I had to have. Had to have done something because nobody just gave it to you. So, Shannon, you got it Somebody had to have done that for you.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, hey, I wouldn't trade them tough times, though, because that. It builds true character, bro.

[Uncle Ocho]

I trade a little among Joe, though. Instead of having 20 years, could I get, like, five?

[Joe Johnson]

Think about it. You probably wouldn't be going as hard as you go now, though.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, I wouldn't.

[Joe Johnson]

You know what I mean?

[Uncle Ocho]

Look, that's all I know.

[Joe Johnson]

Look at everything that you've done, bro, for the culture, you know, in the podcasting world, in. In football. Like, damn, bro.

[Uncle Ocho]

You built.

[Joe Johnson]

You built a platform where guys like me and Ocho, we can.

[Uncle Ocho]

Come on.

[Joe Johnson]

You know what I mean? Like, yeah, hey, bro. Hey, I commend you for it, bro. Like, I know it's tough, but, see, that's the thing.

[Uncle Ocho]

When you grow up, like, Ocho grew up, that's why Ocho want to work all them jobs. Cause, see, okay, I don't want to be broke. Yeah, hell, I know what it's like to be broke. I know what it's like not to have.

[Joe Johnson]

Right?

[Uncle Ocho]

And I would. I like being the position I'm in. I'd rather have than have not. Yeah. So I know what it's like. So I work my ass off. They're like, man, you got. I say, okay, if I retire, then what am I gonna do, right?

[Liberty City Zone]

I gotta have. I gotta be doing something.

[Uncle Ocho]

I don't like to travel, man. You know, that's what you like to do. And bless your heart for wanting to travel, but that ain't mine, right? That ain't what I like to do. I like to work. Yeah, I love it.

[Joe Johnson]

It gives you the stuff, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

I wonder, man, what we gonna talk about today? Hey, let's talk about this, Ash. I think this would be good. This would be something good to talk about. That's me. I don't want to travel because y' all travel. Y' all want to go on vacay. I don't feel I need to get away from anything. Everything that I need is right here, where I'm at.

[Joe Johnson]

That's me to the T, bro. I want to be busy doing something productive, you know what I mean? Versus just sitting around, not doing a damn thing.

[Uncle Ocho]

Nope. Yeah, that's it. Like, Shannon, when you gonna take some time off? I said take time off and do what I said. I'm just. And that's what people. If I take time off, what am I gonna do? Do what I'm talking about. What do I. What do I mean? I don't have any habits. My thing. And that's why I think the thing has worked for me in the off season o showing, and I ain't going no vacation. All I want to do is go work out.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

I would call bucket. I call my home, say, look here. Okay, now, y' all got one month to come see me. After that, I'm moody, I'm grouchy. I'm eating X amount of calories. I'm eating about 3,000 calories a day. I'm eating. I'm eating. Boom, boom, boom, boom. Ain't no more going out, so come see me the first month. Yeah, you eat what I mean, 3,000 calories a day.

[Liberty City Zone]

No, you said.

[Uncle Ocho]

And I'm running. I'm working out on the track. I'm on the track for two hours. I'm in the gym for 90 minutes. Don't you break. Hey, don't come up here. Hey, hey, hey, Sharp. Let's come. I'm coming through and make. No, you're not.

[Joe Johnson]

Right, Right.

[Uncle Ocho]

No. So that's always. That's always how I've been.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

So now, like, I understand that the. And the team that we've assembled, they understand it and they work. I want to give them some time off, but it's hard.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

But I'm telling you, the color day. I'm going somewhere.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, when. When you going?

[Uncle Ocho]

We can't go until after the World Cup.

[Liberty City Zone]

Okay, so. So July.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes.

[Liberty City Zone]

Also, we're gonna take a little break before football season.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes.

[Liberty City Zone]

So what we traveling to? We all going. All three of us, right?

[Uncle Ocho]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Joe got to fill in. Joe don't get.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I'm gonna take. I'm gonna take over nightcap while y' all think.

[Liberty City Zone]

Okay. Okay. Where we going?

[Uncle Ocho]

Where you want to go?

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. Let's we see it like, three, three, four. Three, four. Three or four islands.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Uncle Ocho]

Huh?

[Liberty City Zone]

We should hit, like, three or four islands, like, spend two days in each island, then, you know, hop on another island.

[Uncle Ocho]

Like, how far?

[Liberty City Zone]

I mean, each island maybe an hour away.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, no, no, no. I'm saying, how far we got to go to get to the island?

[Liberty City Zone]

Oh, shoot, I don't. That's on you. Huh?

[Uncle Ocho]

Hell, I'm perfectly fine going to Parris island right over there in South Carolina. Bad. Please. Jamaica.

[Liberty City Zone]

You been there before? No, I mean, I can. I mean, I could.

[Uncle Ocho]

I ain't been to Jamaica. I ain't been to Mexico. I ain't been nowhere.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, listen, I told you, I went to.

[Uncle Ocho]

I went to. I went to Rome. I went to Rome. I went to Florence.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah, I didn't been all over, I didn't been all over Italy.

[Joe Johnson]

You went to Rome.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's it.

[Joe Johnson]

That's why when you, when you were to Rome, you would chase. You were chasing one.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Liberty City Zone]

Oh yeah, I forgot. You said you went to Rome for that thing. Yeah. Hey, I ain't never heard nothing like that, boy. Hey, Joe, you ever went that far for some.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, nah, nah. I ain't never been that far.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, come on, man. Come on. Stalling by, Joe, come on.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm saying, I'm saying when you went over there, you wasn't sightseeing or nothing.

[Uncle Ocho]

You went straight for. You would, you gave. Hey, we walked around. Cause I got there. I got there because I left, I left Sunday. I left JFK Sunday night. So when I got to Rome, it was sun, it was Monday morning.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Went straight to the train, straight to Florence.

[Liberty City Zone]

Damn. You ain't go see the Coliseum first.

[Uncle Ocho]

I promise you I won't. That I won. So we get deployed, get checked in. You don't do that. Yeah, I was, you know. Yeah, yeah. Excited. Very excited.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah. Florence is beautiful, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

Go work out, come back. I'm still excited, you know.

[Liberty City Zone]

Right, right, right, right, right. Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, good old time. Good time too. Good one.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, anytime I take a trip, bro, I gotta hit that gym. I gotta hit that gym. I don't give a damn where I'm at.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

Got to hit that.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm not, I'm not like it. I'm not like that anymore, Joe. But when I was playing, I ain't going. Hey, I got to get the gym. Coming to Vegas, no matter what time I came in, it'd be 4 o', clock, 5 o'. Clock, by 9 o'.

[Liberty City Zone]

Clock.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm in the gym. Yeah, I'm in the gym.

[Joe Johnson]

See, I was a guy, I remember as a girl I was dating, we went to, we went to Jamaica actually. And soon.

[Liberty City Zone]

Okay, okay, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Soon as we got to Jamaica again, Ocho, I went straight to the gym. She was pissed off.

[Uncle Ocho]

How you gonna work out, man?

[Joe Johnson]

Damn all that. Did my money make a hell. This how I get paid?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I'm gonna get you, I'm gonna get, I'm gonna, yeah. Hey, like the more people say, I'm gonna tend to you. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

But hey, I gotta take care of me first now.

[Uncle Ocho]

Exactly, exactly. But you know what? I'm gonna go. We'll figure out something. Oo, we can't go that far now, man.

[Liberty City Zone]

I, I, hey, I told you, I told you, man. Listen, we can hit the Bahamas. We get Jamaica. Now we talk. We go in the island.

[Uncle Ocho]

How far the Bahamas from here? What the Bahamas at that close to me?

[Liberty City Zone]

30 minutes. How many 30 minute flight? Okay, 40. 40 minutes. 40 minutes.

[Uncle Ocho]

So I'm have to. So I'm gonna have to be on that side of town. So I'm gonna need to be able to start from Atlanta because I can't start from Vegas.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah, you start from Vegas. You start. You start from Atlanta.

[Uncle Ocho]

Land in Atlanta and turn around and get on the flight. Come right back to Vegas.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah. Listen, you're a lot of food, man. You love the food in the Bahamas. Matter of fact, I need to take you to Saint Martin as well. We might as well hit Saint Martin as well.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay. Yeah. How long we gonna be gone?

[Liberty City Zone]

I mean, we need about maybe a week and a half.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, hell, no. If you say, hey, oh, we'd be gone. We be. Do I. Do I tell you what I do. I do what about four days and three nights?

[Liberty City Zone]

Now, come on, I'm trying to take you to. I'm trying to show you some things you ain't never done before, man. Meet the people, you know, Introduce you to some new cultures, you know, some new delicacies you've never had before. We need more than four. Four days and three nights.

[Uncle Ocho]

I do five days, four nights. That's all I got for yo.

[Liberty City Zone]

Okay, that's it.

[Uncle Ocho]

I ain't gonna lie, Ocho. I ain't finna lie to you, okay? I am not gonna lie, Ocho. I'll be over there. I'll be over there a week, 10 days.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, I got you. I could work with that. I call the right people, call the prime minister, you know, you know, call the PM east place. We're gonna be straight.

[Joe Johnson]

What, y' all gonna go over there and eat some bull digging onions?

[Liberty City Zone]

Not.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, I ain't going over there for that. Yeah. Hey, I know somebody right there. Glitter. Cook that up. Hey, I ain't gotta go away. Stuff like that. I ain't gotta go way across there for that joke. Hey, and then right before the seat did, right for the season. Hey, we get like three days. Me, you and Ocho, we get about three days right before the season kick off.

[Joe Johnson]

All right, I went there. Y' all let me know, man. Hey, look, don't threaten me with no good time now. I like a good time, you know?

[Uncle Ocho]

No, I can't do. I can't do. No, I can't. Hey, that's the only thing about this, like with Shannon. If you go way, if you Go to Bali or you go to, you know, the Maldives or something. Shannon, you have to go at least like, seven to 10 days. It's gonna take you a day just

[Liberty City Zone]

to get there, and that's too far, man. Hey, hey. I be thinking about Bali and I think about the Maldives, Joe. And I'd be like, I'm leaving the. Travel all the way over there for the same thing. I can see right here in Miami. Yeah, it's what? It's water right here. It's trees right here. You know, I can make it. I can make it aesthetically look just like I'm way out there.

[Uncle Ocho]

Buckle on them things on top of the water. That thing looks so good, you know what I'm saying? They got the little double huts.

[Liberty City Zone]

Oh, yeah. Little breakfast. And you could do that right here in Miami at the Airbnb. You ain't got to do that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Nah, I want to be out there, but I want to be out there by myself. I want nobody around.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, it sounds like. It's not like y' all gonna be doing some. Some grown folk activities.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah. I mean. I mean, look, if Ojo don't go. But I. They got. There's a balcony somewhere with my name on it.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Liberty City Zone]

I mean, yeah, yeah. I can make sure I. I could arrange that for you, too. Huh?

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, just something about the. Seeing them all. See them. Them bungalows on the Maldives.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[Uncle Ocho]

You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Johnson]

They clear water.

[Liberty City Zone]

They got that right. They got that right in Jamaica. At Sandals. At Sandals, yes. We got the bungalows on the water. Put you out there by the ocean. You can't even get to it except by boat. You ain't got to go the way to Bali, huh? The only badly I know is what you put on your shoes.

[Joe Johnson]

Ocho. The water clear.

[Uncle Ocho]

You can see.

[Joe Johnson]

You can see.

[Liberty City Zone]

See? Hey, boy, you see everything, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Liberty City Zone]

I tell you, no lie.

[Uncle Ocho]

I can see. Hold on. I can look at the water, see my reflection. Everything.

[Liberty City Zone]

Matter of fact, everything. Let me tell you. Let me. Hey, let me tell you about the Sandals Resort with the bungalows. You go, you can swim under. You can swim under. Under your room. So if you. You with. You with your spouse.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Liberty City Zone]

She can look on the flow and see you swim under. Under the ocean, through the middle of the floor. What you do that, man, I tell you, no lie. Hey, them. Hey, them bungalows and Sandals in Jamaica.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, boy, listen, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, it look like you. It sound like you done had a hell of a time over there.

[Liberty City Zone]

Oh, yeah. Cause, you know, I know. I know the boss man. I know the head man over there. So anytime I want to go, and I ain't take advantage of it. I went one time with somebody in the past. I ain't been back since, you know, because I didn't want to take advantage of, you know, having access to the person who, you know. So, I mean, it's about time. It's been about five years now. It's about time to make another trip.

[Uncle Ocho]

I don't know. I'm gonna run and go out there.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Next year, the time I might have. Y' all might be some godparents they don't tell about o'. Shay. Now, you gotta sound it all good.

[Liberty City Zone]

Oh, no, it's nice, though, Joe. I mean, the only thing that. The only thing that make me nervous is the fact that the only way to get there is by boat. And once you out there, you right there. You. I mean, you. You there. So unless. Yeah. That's the only thing that make me uncomfortable. There's no land, so you just. You. The bungalows. You got your own butler, you know, and, you know, they. They cooking and doing whatever you need. But. But when I say you in the middle of the ocean, huh?

[Uncle Ocho]

While y' all talking, you what, I'm barbecuing myself.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah. Santa's was.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey. Oh, yeah, look that up. Sandals. Huh? You say sandals?

[Liberty City Zone]

Bungalow.

[Uncle Ocho]

It's in Jamaica. Jamaica.

[Liberty City Zone]

Jamaica.

[Joe Johnson]

I heard. I heard of sandals, too.

[Uncle Ocho]

Huh? Oh, they got. Oh, they got. Actually, they got. They got things everywhere.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

What you mean? What you mean, they got things?

[Uncle Ocho]

Sandals. They got, like. They might have some in the Maldives. They might have. They huge.

[Liberty City Zone]

They huge, yo. They huge. It's just the fact. So you don't have to take that long flight. They offer the same services right there in Jamaica, so you.

[Uncle Ocho]

But I do want. Everybody but I. But I do want. I do want. I do want to. I. I got to get on Emirates. I got to get on one of those play.

[Joe Johnson]

Dude, bed.

[Uncle Ocho]

The Emirates or Japanese Singapore air.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Pad Air.

[Uncle Ocho]

I got to be on one of those one time.

[Joe Johnson]

One time.

[Uncle Ocho]

Ocho.

[Liberty City Zone]

You just want to. You just want to fly far. I ain't got. The only time I'm getting on come back. The only time I'm getting on Emirates, it has to be a soccer game, and then I. I don't have to go to Emirates this year because the World cup is coming to me. I ain't got to go to it.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm trying to get.

[Liberty City Zone]

I'm excited for that.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm trying to renew his mile high club.

[Uncle Ocho]

I got. Yeah, I got to. And I heard Emirates is great. So they got Emirates. They got Japanese. Japan Jaw. They got Singapore Air. What's the other one?

[Liberty City Zone]

Listen, Emirates in Qatar is the best. Qatar Emirates in Qatar airway is the best. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. The hospitality.

[Uncle Ocho]

I gotta put my penis together. I'm going to.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, hey. The service is unbelievable.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, you better believe it. Gonna be unbelievable.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, matter of fact, are we. We going to south of Francis Young?

[Uncle Ocho]

No, we gotta work.

[Liberty City Zone]

So we're not going to. What's it called again?

[Uncle Ocho]

Can. No, we're going next year.

[Liberty City Zone]

Okay, all right, cool.

[Uncle Ocho]

We're going. We. We're definitely going next year. So, Joe, put that on your calendar, I bet.

[Liberty City Zone]

Cause, hey, I got, I got some loaf. I got some, some, some loafers. I was ready, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

What you gonna. Hold on. What you mean? You gonna have your dogs out, not loafers.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, Joe, I don't play well. I'm in Miami, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Open toe. You open toe. Sando kind of dude.

[Uncle Ocho]

What?

[Liberty City Zone]

My little Herman? My little Hermes. Yeah, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, you rock like that too. No.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I ain't having these dogs.

[Uncle Ocho]

My feet ain't bad, Joe. My feet ain't bad. My feet ain't bad.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, my feet ain't bad either, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

You know all the years in football and stuff. Yeah, go ahead, oj.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, Joe, I got the open toe sandals and I got the gator loafer. Joe. The slip ons.

[Joe Johnson]

You heard me okay, with.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, with the, with the linen set, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, you set? Are you ready?

[Liberty City Zone]

You know, with the look, with the, with the matching cigar case.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes, sir. Oh, look at him, Joe.

[Liberty City Zone]

I'm talking about Joe. Hey, put just a watch, no jury. Look, Joe, looking like money, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

I already know.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, look like money.

[Joe Johnson]

I already know it.

[Uncle Ocho]

What?

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, look. Hey, look Like a billion dollars ain't spend. Yeah.

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[Uncle Ocho]

Draymond Green took a shot at Charles Barkley and that didn't go over well on inside. Hey, Dre said the goal is just not look like you in the Houston Rockies uniform.

[Liberty City Zone]

Damn.

[Uncle Ocho]

First is blaming Steve Kerr, then Austin Rivers not disrespecting Chuck on television. What's going on with Draymond? I don't think. Think. See. See. People just see Chuck inside the NBA, right? They don't realize how great he was. They don't.

[Liberty City Zone]

Wait, hold on. You don't think Draymond Green understands how good Chuck was even though he didn't win a ring? Hell, even I know how good goddamn Barkley was.

[Joe Johnson]

Ernie.

[Uncle Ocho]

Ernie said he took stuck up for Chuck telling Draymond he has 43 games with more turnovers than field goal in the playoffs. He's tied with Kendrick Perkins for the most since 2003. Who Draymond is? Yeah,

[Joe Johnson]

I think. Cause hey look, Barkley was a hell of A player. And what he said was he didn't want. Yeah, he didn't want to look like how Barkley looked in Houston. But, hell, Barkley made the all star team, I think, his first year in Houston.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Look at. Pull up Barkley's numbers in Houston. People think Barkley.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

He wasn't what he was in Philly. He wasn't what he was in Phoenix.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. But he was still a hell of a player.

[Liberty City Zone]

And it's. It's hard, too. I don't. I don't like the comparison because Barkley is more of a. Office has an offensive presence as opposed to Draymond. So the comparison isn't even there. It makes no sense to even compare the two.

[Joe Johnson]

But when you look at it, Uncle Ocho, Draymond and won four rings, and Barkley ain't never won no rings.

[Uncle Ocho]

So Draymond ain't a better basketball player than Charles.

[Joe Johnson]

I agree.

[Uncle Ocho]

In that first year, y' all know what Charles Barkley Average? 19 points, 13 and a half rebounds. Can I interest you in that?

[Joe Johnson]

13 rebounds is crazy.

[Uncle Ocho]

At 6 foot 4. And five or six people. Like I said, people don't realize. And let me tell you what happened. And I think Draymond, everything that he's been able to do, but what people have done, they've allowed rings to be the. To be the end all, be all. And you're taking guys with rings and say, well, because he has rings, he's better than X.

[Joe Johnson]

No, no, sir.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah. Barbecue was like that, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

No, sir.

[Uncle Ocho]

I mean, like I said, people just. Like I said, I. Look, I know Bar. I know Chuck. And people take their shots at him. But go look at his numbers for a career.

[Joe Johnson]

Bad boy.

[Uncle Ocho]

Name another guy. No, Barkley wasn't those. Barkley was six, four. How many years he played? Barkley played 16 years. How about this? For a career, 22 points and 12 rebounds for a career.

[Joe Johnson]

We ain't talking about no one seasons. He was bad.

[Uncle Ocho]

Pretty good chat. 22 and 12.

[Joe Johnson]

Hell, yeah. I can speak for chat. I can tell you that. I'm serious, man. Cause I remember. I remember. I remember arguably when he was the best player in the league. What was that? 93 when they played the Bulls finals.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes, man.

[Joe Johnson]

If y' all don't do nothing else, Chad, if y' all don't do nothing else, go to YouTube and look up Phoenix Suns versus the Bulls in 93, bro. Now, MJ was a bad boy, you know?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

But I think Barkley did. Barkley went MVP that Year.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes, he did. He beat Jordan, Bruh.

[Joe Johnson]

The man was unreal out there. The way I. I think not only did he have game, but it was his attitude and his approach, his eyes, like he. He knew. He knew could nobody mess with him, and that's how he went out and played.

[Uncle Ocho]

Like I said, man, look, and. And what we've done. There are guys that doesn't have rings, and then we're taking guys that have rings and say, well, they better. No, they're not.

[Joe Johnson]

No, sir.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, you're not. We gotta stop this.

[Liberty City Zone]

But at that point, it's about understanding the game in general, outside of rings, understanding, you know, players, skill sets, what they meant during the era that they played in, how good they were.

[Uncle Ocho]

But always having the guard. Think about who he's having to guard at six, four. He guarding guys six, nine, six, ten. At six foot four.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

And holding his own.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I. I think in Draymond's defense, though, Uncle Ocho, y' all know Barkley, he started it. You know, he.

[Uncle Ocho]

Of course.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. He. He threw a slight at Dre.

[Uncle Ocho]

He told him. He said, look, it's over for y'. All. Y' all got old.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He just kept.

[Uncle Ocho]

He just kept. Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. And, you know, hey, Joe, they have gotten old. They have.

[Uncle Ocho]

He not. Joe, they talk about basketball reference. Talking about he's 66, Charles Barkley. 866 Charles Barkley. 6, 4.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, about 6, 4, 6, 5.

[Uncle Ocho]

Maybe he not. He might. He's not even that nice. He'd have had that hip replaced and shrunk as you get older. You know, you're straight. Yeah, but, man, y'. All. Y' all gotta see. And that's why we get up and say that Zion. Because Zion is a more explosive Charles Barkley.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, man, we were just talking about this dude today, bro. Zion. How. How The. The talent that he has, and that's just. Hey, that's what we were talking about earlier in the show. You mix that talent with that damn hard work.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes, man. That man ain't.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, he already can't be guarded, bro. Yeah, he could be a top. He could easily. I'm saying, if his mind was made up, he could easily be a top five player in this league today. Uncle Ocho, I'm talking about Zion.

[Liberty City Zone]

Easy.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay, Nobody guarded. But. But I think the thing is, is that back then those guys. Listen, he said, Moses Malone. He said. Moses Malone told him. He said, charles, you got two things wrong with you. You fat and you lazy. He said. He said, Mo, what I need to do, he say we're gonna lose 10 pounds. Hey, we ain't gonna lose it all at once.

[Joe Johnson]

As a young guy, bro, coming into a professional sport, that's what you need. You need a veteran guy who gonna keep it 100 with you. Yeah. It ain't gonna let you slide with that bs. Especially when they see how talented you are.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And they like, look, bro, if you drop 10, 15, 20 pounds, you're gonna be a bad mofo.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I just need you to lock in. And when you got guys like that, bro, that'll take you. That'll take your career to another level.

[Uncle Ocho]

He said he got him down. He said he got him down. So he lost. He was like 290. So he got the 280. So he felt okay, you know? Got to. He felt okay. 270 felt good. 260. Say once he got to 250, he started cutting everybody ass, man. And he wasn't playing.

[Joe Johnson]

He wasn't.

[Uncle Ocho]

Charles Barkley was explosive. I'm talking about Ella Dunkin on dunking on everybody.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Ain't no way that man's supposed to be able to do a jump like that. And Zion more explosive than that. Now he can't shoot like Chuck. Cause Chuck can shoot.

[Joe Johnson]

But as far as being explosive, having a better handle, he got all. He got all that better than each other. But.

[Uncle Ocho]

And my problem with Zion Joe, at that size, he got to get more than five, six rebounds a game. He got to be a double double. Yeah, he got to be a double double.

[Joe Johnson]

Too talented. Too athletic, Too gifted.

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[Uncle Ocho]

2026 GM survey results are out. If you were starting a franchise today and you could sign any player in the WNBA, who would it be? In 2025 it was Caitlin Clark got 50. Asia Wilson got 20, got 33% in 2026. Paige Beckers get 33. Asia and Caitlyn tied for 20. And Dominique, I think this is the French woman at 13. I'm gonna say this, Joe. I followed WNBA since it came out in 1996.

[Joe Johnson]

Me too.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm not taking a woman over Asia.

[Joe Johnson]

Asia. No, sir.

[Uncle Ocho]

No. If you want, if you say, okay. Was scored. Maya Morgan scored like Asia.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

There. But there might have been women that could score like Asia. Cheryl Swoops, Cynthia Cooper.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Lauren Jackson.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay. Rebound. Well, could she rebound like Sylvia Files? Could she rebounds like Leslie? Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Could she play defense? There's not been a woman in the WNBA that has the total package. What Asia Wilson had ass.

[Joe Johnson]

You're absolutely right.

[Uncle Ocho]

She's led the league in scoring. She's led the league in rebounding. She's a three time defensive player of the year. She's a three time champion, a two time finals mvp. A four. No disrespect and respectfully, Cheryl Swoops, Cynthia Cooper, Lauren Jackson, Lisa Leslie, Simone Augustus, Diana Taurasi, Maya Moore, all of them watch the ball play.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Even in college. I'm taking agent Wilson.

[Joe Johnson]

Me too. Hey. Because when you look at it, Uncle Ocho, the WNBA is not like the NBA to where you know, the NBA is perimeter oriented. You know, the wnba. If you got you a girl down there who can get something done like Asia.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You play inside out, bro.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

You know what I mean? I mean, yeah, it's some girls in WNBA who can score, but for the most part, if you got an Asia, that's who you starting your offense with. Hell, she been impeccable. I agree with you. I agree with you. I don't know how she tied for second on this. I'm definitely starting my damn team with Asia.

[Uncle Ocho]

Now, look, if you're trying to sell tickets, you want endorsements, okay. But if you're trying to win, ain't taking nobody over Asia.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, you crazy. Not right now.

[Uncle Ocho]

Like I said, I saw them all play. I'm old enough to. In college. Breonna Stewart. I ain't taking nobody over Asia. No. Hell. And she should be favored to win the MVP again.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

And even though she should have won it Back to back, MVP's Defensive Player of the Year. Nafisha call you fee. Got her.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Scoring. She could score, she could rebound, she could defend.

[Joe Johnson]

She could pass. She could do everything. She could do everything.

[Uncle Ocho]

All the. Paige Beck is unbelievable.

[Joe Johnson]

She is.

[Uncle Ocho]

I love y'. All. Hey, I love Caitlin Clark. And like I said, Maya. More Maya War went to Collins Hills in Georgia.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Knew her career. Lisa Leslie and Coop. Coop was on that. Oh, those teams, those USC teams with the.

[Joe Johnson]

Cheryl.

[Uncle Ocho]

Cheryl. No, no, no, no, no. Not sure. Yeah, with Cheryl Miller and McGee. Yeah, Pam and Paula McGee. Yeah, she's on that team. Yeah, they won back to back 84. And then Clarissa Davis, that great Texas team.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

With 36. Zero in 1986, beat him.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

So I go wave at all of. Like I said, Tina, all of them. I debate anybody on that.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I agree.

[Uncle Ocho]

Candace Parker. I'm taking. I'm taking. Candace is the only one to come in and win Rookie of the Year and mvp. She was the MVP and Rookie of the Year in the same season and she's been a defensive player of the year and she's.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

This girl here is unbelievable. She is brought. And. And like I said, I haven't seen the other. I saw Tarasi play, but to watch her play and man. And they got. Hey, they got.

[Joe Johnson]

And.

[Uncle Ocho]

And they got Chelsea Gray, they got the point guard and they got Jackie Young. They loaded again.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, they got a hell of a team, though.

[Uncle Ocho]

They loaded again.

[Joe Johnson]

They got a hell of a team.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm gonna go see them play, too. I might go see them open tonight. Drop the battle. Get the rings.

[Joe Johnson]

When is that? Hold on.

[Uncle Ocho]

They get ready to play. They play Saturday. Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

That's open tonight.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Do they play? I think they're playing open tonight. Don't they play Saturday? Opening night. Aces play Saturday home, right? Hey, I do better play. I'm going to a game, though. I'm going to a game. I'm gonna see you, huh? Overnight starts tomorrow. Yeah. And look these.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey.

[Uncle Ocho]

And I'm so glad these girls are making. They making big time money now. Hey. And he's gonna be making 1.5. These girls, the. The money is going to be flowing now. They're not gonna have to go overseas. They can stay right here, make a good living. They still have the unrivaled league. They can make it even a little bit more money. Man, Asia Wilson is good. It's. It's good. WNBA player as I've seen.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, they. They trending in the right direction. WNBA is, bro. It's going to continue to grow. Hey, look. Yeah. I told y', all, man, I got a 12 year old. I told her, hell, by the time she 18, another six years, girl, look, them girl gonna be making some real money.

[Liberty City Zone]

Oh, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Which player forces the opposing coaches to make the Most adjustments? In 2025, it was Asia Wilson at 33. Caitlin Clark and Brianna Stewart for 22. And this year coming up, Asia Wilson got 13. Alyssa Thompson, Phoenix, who win the Kia WNBA MVP. Feet. Feet. Nafisha Collier was 27%. Asia Wilson, 25. Caitlin Clark, 20. 26. Asia 60. Brianna Stewart, 27. Now, you know she would have done to be five.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Nafisha. Carla Collier, she coming off an injury, ain't she?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes. Ankle. I think she messed up an ankle.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. She could play, though. She could play, but.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I know she got some game. But Asia, I mean, different.

[Uncle Ocho]

Which team will win the WNBA Finals in 2025? It was Minnesota going into New York, Indiana and Las Vegas. And then in 2026, who is it going to be? Las Vegas 40, New York 33. Atlanta's been getting a lot of love with Alicia Gray. And now they got Angel Reese. Angel Reese, and they got Ryan Howard. So. Yeah, but man, Asia, like I said, man, she was. Now, I used to love the comment. The comment, but the comment. They had Cheryl Sweet, because when they first got there, Cheryl was pregnant. Cheryl didn't come right away.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

So it was. It was Coop, it was Tina Thompson and one lady. Because they won four straight titles. They weren't. They weren't the first four. And. And I think. Hell, I think Coop might have been the mvp. It might have been the finals mvp, all of them. And she was. I think she was the first, you know, in mvp, I think two times. But boy, and she. I mean, you got to think about it, she was in her 30s.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

So just imagine if she'd have got if. If they'd had when she was like right out of. Fresh out of college.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah,

[Uncle Ocho]

but this lefty with Chelsea, Jackie Young and Asia.

[Joe Johnson]

Too much. She got it, fellas.

[Uncle Ocho]

Man, five MVPs. If she was this should be a fifth one. And what did she just turn 30? Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey. And you see, she just came out with that A1. That. Yeah, it's nice too.

[Uncle Ocho]

She's 29. We should be 30 August. Yeah, she'd be. She'd be 30th August.

[Liberty City Zone]

What's the A. What's the A1, Joe? Her shoe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, her shoe. She just came out. She's came out with a shoe with Nike. It's nice.

[Liberty City Zone]

Oh, the.

[Uncle Ocho]

All right.

[Joe Johnson]

Yep.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

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[Uncle Ocho]

segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. All right, before we get to the super chats, we got 44 video voicemail. Let's take a listen, man.

[Joe Johnson]

They call this the BS call on LeBron pushing Caruso down.

[Uncle Ocho]

Then on the next play, they call a little Mickey Mouse Kyle from Mitchell. They make the game unwatchable. I ain't gonna lie.

[Liberty City Zone]

Like, hey, is it just me?

[Uncle Ocho]

Like, do y' all think that or what? But appreciate y', all, you know, all the way from Alexander, Louisiana.

[Caller]

Here.

[Uncle Ocho]

Got that good skin going on.

[Joe Johnson]

Got that hawk pack. Oh, ISO. You know what I'm saying?

[Uncle Ocho]

All right.

[Joe Johnson]

It was Ocho.

[Liberty City Zone]

You know I'm saying my birthday twin

[Uncle Ocho]

be tripping with that strapping, though. Appreciate it. Yeah. Nah, bro, it's not just you. Bad. Yeah. Yeah. I think there are a lot of people that thought. Thought they was on some bullshit tonight. Caught a lot of ticky tack stuff.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah. Hey, that's the rest control in the game, bro. They gotta. They gotta chill with all that, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, everybody say, yo, that's coming over there.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, let's take. Let's take a listen at the next one.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, boys, tell me a game that you want to go back in time

[Joe Johnson]

to, where you can't do nothing different

[Uncle Ocho]

but just relive the moment.

[Liberty City Zone]

What big game is that? All right, let us know.

[Uncle Ocho]

First super bowl for me.

[Joe Johnson]

First super bowl for you, huh?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yep.

[Liberty City Zone]

Trying to think, what moment would I love to relive?

[Joe Johnson]

It would be my fifth game, my rookie year, and I playing against mj, bro. I'm. I'm gonna keep it real with y'. All.

[Uncle Ocho]

It was a. Oh, he's in Washington then, right?

[Joe Johnson]

He was in Washington, but I was in all, you know, him and Twan, him. Antoine Walker, was talking to each other the entire game. Cause, you know, they were super close. They super close, man. They talk smack, and I'm the one guarding him. But I just relished that moment, bro. I enjoy it so much that I still watch it from time to time.

[Uncle Ocho]

How many points you score, Joe?

[Joe Johnson]

I had 16 points, 10 rebounds as a rookie.

[Uncle Ocho]

Ball like a. Oh, you got busy on him? You got busy on him, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Yes, sir. You know, hey, you know, as a rookie, they don't respect you, bro. He wasn't respecting me.

[Uncle Ocho]

He. He was.

[Joe Johnson]

I was his assignment. But, you know, he was like. He was playing free safety off me, like, we gonna make this rookie okay. We gonna make this rookie make a couple shots. I would. Tearing his ass up, Ocho.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, so that's why you want to go back and live that game. Cause you got 16 on MJ. Oh, what game you going back just to rel. You can't change the outcome. You just want to relive that moment.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, you know what? Them back to back weeks when we played the Charges and the Saints, I'm gonna do two game back to back week. So one, the first game I had 260, and the next game I had 190.

[Joe Johnson]

I had Runway. Huh? You were cutting rug, weren't you?

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, I don't know what the hell I. I don't know what the hell I had before them games.

[Uncle Ocho]

Boy, you know what you had?

[Liberty City Zone]

Oh, yeah. Just half a pill of Viagra. Just half a pill. Yeah, yeah, I. Yeah, I had. Damn it down there, 500 yards. I mean, I could have relaxed the rest of the season and still hit a thousand. Yeah, but them two games, that. That was. That was something that boy.

[Uncle Ocho]

Let's take a listen to the next one.

[Caller]

What's up, Night Cap? Nightcap crew and all the people that run Nightcap behind the scenes just want to say, God bless you. Hope all is well with your house. I get that out the way. Hey, man, Walmart driver here, man. I just want to piggyback what you said Tuesday night, Joe, man, Brunson and the Knicks win the championship. I think. Yeah, he'll be on the Mount Lunchmore. And that's why it gets me upset that KD and Kyrie didn't go to New York. You know how big that would have been for New York if them two had played there for one? Brooklyn was cool, but they had played in one. They don't know what. What they missed. I know Dolan was with Dolan, but, man, they really messed up an opportunity of being. What an amazing team. Anyway, God bless you guys. Love the show. Love Nightcap. Have a good one.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, thank you. Them dudes want to control, bro. They knew going to the Knicks, hell, they weren't gonna be able to have no control. They weren't gonna be able to run that thing how they wanted to, Right?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yep.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. But, boy, listen, if Kyrie and KD would have went to the Knicks. Okay, Ojo.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

And you think about it. Kyrie likes being different. Kyrie marches to the beat of his own drum. Yeah, KD like being different because think about where Katie went. KD went to Golden State. Nobody in basketball thought he would end up there.

[Joe Johnson]

Right?

[Uncle Ocho]

Kyrie, great situation with LeBron. He wants out. I want to do my own thing. I don't want to do what y' all want me to do, kd. I don't want to go where y' all want me to go. I want to go where I want to go.

[Joe Johnson]

Right, right.

[Uncle Ocho]

But I could. Can you imagine the Garden with those two guys? Oh, my God, man.

[Joe Johnson]

They tore it down,

[Uncle Ocho]

huh? That was it. Oh, Joe, we ain't talk about it. You know, OG looking like he got a strained hamstring.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, gee, do. Well, y' all know what that means. I'm strained hamstrings, bro. I don't get. I ain't. I don't. How much tape you put on it? It ain't. Hey, you got to sit down with that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Didn't he have a. Didn't he hurt his hamstring last year? Late? Didn't they play. Who did they? They played Indiana. I think he hurt his hamstring last year.

[Joe Johnson]

He may have did. He may have Did.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. But didn't he hurt his hamstring last year against Indy?

[Joe Johnson]

Let me see. See,

[Uncle Ocho]

Chad, didn't he hurt his hamstring against his. His against Indy last year?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, because if he out. Uncle. Oo. That's he. I mean, because he been so consistent.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

This whole postseason. That's gonna hurt the Knicks, bro. That's gonna hurt them.

[Uncle Ocho]

Two years ago, was it two years ago?

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[Uncle Ocho]

Okay. Okay. I thought so. Okay. JW Akron ISO. You must choose one fade put on Ocho. Tyson versus Burbick. You knock him silly and he cased. He can't stand falling. Or Drago beat down. Where you gotta. Your Ash throwing the damn towel.

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on.

[Uncle Ocho]

He said.

[Joe Johnson]

What was the first one again?

[Uncle Ocho]

You gotta put. You put the fade on Ocho. So you're gonna be Tyson versus Burbank. You knock him silly and he keeps standing, but he falling. Drago beat down with. Gotta yell. Ash throwing the towel.

[Joe Johnson]

What I'm gonna do to Ojo.

[Uncle Ocho]

Drago was doing the Rocky where he told him throwing the towel or would try the typhoon hit Trevor Burbit.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

He said Tyson said he wanted to make him pay because that was the last man to be Ali.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that's how I said he wanted

[Uncle Ocho]

to make him pay.

[Joe Johnson]

That's how I'll make his ass pay for all that talking he doing. And I know. I know Chat. I know. Chad want to see it? Chad, I got y'. All. Hey, it's. It's gonna be a show. You hear me? That's all it's gonna be.

[Liberty City Zone]

Let me tell you something. Hey, Unc, he ain't Gonna be able to get through this defense. I'm gonna sit. Hey, Joe. I'm gonna sit there right in your face, like, where I could. I could reach out and touch you, like, touch your nose and. And I' ma let you throw every punch. I'm blocking everything. You hear me, Joe? I'm blocking it. I ain't even gonna move. I'm gonna just sit there nice and calm and relaxed. I' ma parry everything you thought.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey. You ever. You ever seen people do this? You ever see. Oh. You ever see people do this?

[Uncle Ocho]

You're too small.

[Joe Johnson]

His ass too damn little.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, that don't. It ain't about size at that point. Joe won't be fighting, Joe. Oh, I'll be fighting, though. I'll be fighting. Or we wrestling. Which one we doing?

[Joe Johnson]

It don't matter here. You're gonna lose in both.

[Liberty City Zone]

No, no, no, no. Joe. Anything coming from the shoulders. Boy, you dead in the water. Boy, you. You in no man's land with me, man. Stop playing, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Ocho, for you to even get a link in, bro, you got to take two of these. Two, three of these just to even get in here.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yo, I'm. I'm slipping everything. I'm slipping everything you throw. Joe. I'm coming in there. I'm coming in there sliding and moving. Joe. And sticking. Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Huh?

[Liberty City Zone]

I'm gonna talk to you while I'm dodging punches.

[Joe Johnson]

And I know they right out bad, too. Well, I'm gonna do a number on that.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, don't worry about that right eye, boy.

[Uncle Ocho]

Charlotte. What's up, Ocho? ISO. Not much, too. Not much. Not much to say. But Dean Wade is entirely too sorry on defense and down the scores in the fourth, and Donovan doesn't touch the ball. Nixon mixing, granted, needs assistance. Pistons and four.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah,

[Liberty City Zone]

they out of there, huh? You ain't gonna get one game.

[Uncle Ocho]

Well, they better get this game three.

[Liberty City Zone]

They don't get game three. It's a rap, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

I give them one. I give them one.

[Uncle Ocho]

Gold standard says unk. Thanks. LeBron is the goat. Laugh my ass off. Michael Jordan is the growth, bro. We different. We disagree. The only ID ISO. Pay the man. Pay that man. Ocho. You know how it goes. You can't pay up. Gotta put it on the floor. Pistons and four.

[Joe Johnson]

So put it on the floor. I ain't paying nothing.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, hey. Matter of fact, I'm glad you just reminded me, huh?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. He owe you five, he owe you seven.

[Liberty City Zone]

Owe me that 500. What?

[Uncle Ocho]

He owe you 700. Cause you had two games too.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, Put it in. Put it in your notes as a reminder. I don't give a damn what you do. Hey, listen, listen.

[Liberty City Zone]

All you doing is making it work for yourself, right? Hey, you first. You were gonna be 6ft. Now you're gonna be 12 with me.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay?

[Joe Johnson]

All right.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I want to see this. I want to see it. I want to get it. Yeah.

[Liberty City Zone]

All right. Don't worry about it.

[Joe Johnson]

Right?

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay. See? Smack them boys up. Smack them boys. Thunder up. Yeah, man, it ain't looking good. We ain't looking good. We're gonna have to play. We're gonna have to play a perfect ball game and still OKC gonna need to be off for the Lakers to get a game, guys. But we gonna get a game. We gonna get a game. What's up, Doc? Here, Ocho. ISO Braun can't go out like this. We need Magic or something. Running 20 points off turnovers is embarrassing. It is.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Them turnovers on kids.

[Uncle Ocho]

It's already a tough assignment to beat them. Joey, when you turning the ball over,

[Joe Johnson]

that's when they thrive, though. That's. That's what they defense is. Is. Is built to do. It's built to make you turn that damn ball over. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

What are they doing it, man. No. SGA. Reeves came to play. Shay, you okay? Thunder and poor. No,

[Joe Johnson]

you are. Hey, you all y'.

[Uncle Ocho]

All.

[Joe Johnson]

Y' all still got two games at home.

[Uncle Ocho]

You good.

[Joe Johnson]

You good.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm going to see that Monday game.

[Joe Johnson]

Game four. Oh, yeah. I hope. I hope it ain't no elimination.

[Liberty City Zone]

Don't. Don't. Don't do it. Just save your money.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm going. I. I'm leaving in the third quarter. Cause we got the show, so I got to get back now.

[Liberty City Zone]

Just save your money, though. Save your money.

[Uncle Ocho]

Some nachos. I'm gonna give you some. Some chicken. I'm gonna get my money's worth.

[Joe Johnson]

But what.

[Uncle Ocho]

But what.

[Joe Johnson]

What if the game really good, though.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm leaving at third. I gotta get a job to do.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, hey, save your money, man. Don't. Don't do it to yourself, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

Nah, as a matter of fact, Ocho, I need that. You say case of emergency. I need that 5,900.

[Liberty City Zone]

Well, listen, if you go. If I'm gonna see that 5,900, you're gonna. And you're gonna spend that 5,900 to go watch the Lakers lose. I mean, I don't. That's a horrible.

[Uncle Ocho]

Why this man worried about what I'm gonna do with the money and what

[Joe Johnson]

I'm saying how the man started pressing me by 700 and the man owe 5,900. God damn.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, hey, Joe. Hey, hey. Joe Standing Child's place. Joe Standing Child.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Uncle Ocho]

That.

[Joe Johnson]

That's why. Hey, I'm keeping my money in my pocket.

[Liberty City Zone]

That's okay. That I want.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, I want.

[Liberty City Zone]

I want you to keep it in your pocket, right? And you're gonna be. And you're gonna be Dragonfly Jones. And I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be the student. I'm gonna take it right out your pocket. Don't worry about it.

[Uncle Ocho]

I've never been typed to say this, but the ref would try to send LeBron a message. This their league. They kill the momentum every time. I mean, LeBron ain't getting no fou. I mean, that filed by Jalen Williams. And then they come down the other end and they get a call to shake. I can understand why it's frustrating.

[Joe Johnson]

Hell yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, Big Mike Ocho, Joe. Let's see. You gotta start, bench, cut. You got a Rolex. You got ap. You got Richard Mill. Start, bench, cut.

[Liberty City Zone]

I'm starting no matter what.

[Joe Johnson]

You starting to roll it.

[Uncle Ocho]

Absolutely timeless.

[Liberty City Zone]

Absolutely iconic.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay, okay, so Ocho's starting to roll it. I'm getting the bench.

[Liberty City Zone]

I'm benching to Richard, Millie, Richard Miller, you know. Yeah, I got. Yeah, I'm gonna cut ap. You know.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Liberty City Zone]

I got one of each of those. So. Eh.

[Uncle Ocho]

All right, Joe, what you got? I'm starting my.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm starting my ap.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Benching my Rollie. And I'm cutting the Richie.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, right.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, hey, hey, Joe. I got a nice. I got a nice Richie Rishi. Ms. 6701.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, real thin, bad boy.

[Liberty City Zone]

Nasty.

[Uncle Ocho]

You got that. You got that new Bubba, Wasa?

[Liberty City Zone]

Hell no. Who the hell if I can't, I can't. Hell no.

[Joe Johnson]

The hell the hell, baby, look, that bubble Watson up, that about 500, 000, I think.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, a protector there?

[Joe Johnson]

Hell no, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

Please, man. You see that one? That new protect that Corey Gamble got? Chris Jenner boyfriend.

[Liberty City Zone]

It was 5 million, wasn't it?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, that Joe got everything. Hey, he got a. I don't know.

[Liberty City Zone]

It's only.

[Uncle Ocho]

There's only one person.

[Liberty City Zone]

Jay Z. Him and Jay Z.

[Uncle Ocho]

The only person I know two people, they got a watch collection. Mark Wahlberg. Yeah. Jay Z. Yeah, I know a couple Mark Wahlberg got. Got one of the most impressive. Kevin Hart got a very impressive one.

[Liberty City Zone]

Kevin Hart.

[Uncle Ocho]

Khaled got an impressive one.

[Joe Johnson]

Braun got a nice one, too, huh?

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah. Yeah, Brian got one. Yeah. Sliced Alone. Sylvester. Yeah, but Protect took him out because he sold one of his. They put it in auction and he sold it, so they took him off the list.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Liberty City Zone]

You got a Kevin Hart. Got a nasty.

[Uncle Ocho]

Kevin's an AP guy. Kev got a lot of aps.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

What's it called? Him Guy. I mean, Mark Wahlberg, he got AP Paddock Rollies.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey. Because they work. They work. They. They'll never devalue.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You what? Once you get a ad, once you get in good with an ad because. And plus all those guys get off catalog because there's some. Some models they don't even put. Only the VIP clients will get access to. Yeah, and so Wahlberg and Hov and those guys, they're gonna get access to those models.

[Liberty City Zone]

But, man, hey, well, we need to be part of that AP Rolex.

[Uncle Ocho]

What's your bad. See, the thing is, I didn't understand that early on, so I just bought like, you know, I didn't really go to an ad. Authorized dealer.

[Liberty City Zone]

Right.

[Uncle Ocho]

You know, somebody's like, hey, man, I got this a. I would just buy it. I didn't know. Yeah, it's not like Louis Vuitton. Like, if you buy Louis Vuitton, no matter where you bought it, I'm in the system. Started. I think I bought my first piece in 91.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Piece of luggage and, you know, more luggage. Got my sister piece of luggage and duffel bags and garment bags and big time suitcases. And so over the years. And so no, I got. I got a pretty good relationship with Louis Vuitton, but I don't have that type of relationship with. With none of the dealers. I mean, I would like to get a Richard Mill or a Vacheron Constantine.

[Liberty City Zone]

I mean, hey, that's. That's what we got the show for. We. We have a platform. We can voice. We can voice what we want. And. And, you know. You know, my grandma always said, man, you know, the tongue is powerful.

[Joe Johnson]

Speaking into existence, you got to speak it.

[Uncle Ocho]

Well, I like to have a better. I like to have a relationship with Patek, A.P. vacheron. F.P. jordan.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Richard Mill. Anything else we leave out on show. Roll it.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, that's. That's about it. That's about it. Hey, I. I want a yacht. I want a super yacht. Mega yacht.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, no, no.

[Liberty City Zone]

So any. Any companies out there wanna, you know, want to work with your boy? Huh?

[Uncle Ocho]

Boat. You know what a boat stand for? Bust out another thousand, because that's A bottle. That's a money pit. That is a money pit.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah, it is.

[Uncle Ocho]

Gregory, go grab McCann. Might be the biggest deal I can ever remember. Thanks, Sixers. McCain.

[Joe Johnson]

McCain.

[Uncle Ocho]

But the thing is, Joe, I mean, so you. You want to give you. You. Would you take McCain over maxi?

[Joe Johnson]

No, I think.

[Uncle Ocho]

And BJ Edgecombe. It's.

[Joe Johnson]

It's the role that he's playing in now with okc. People want him to play their role in Philly coming off the bench being that spark plug. You just got too many young guys, bro. They weren't gonna do that.

[Uncle Ocho]

No.

[Joe Johnson]

And.

[Uncle Ocho]

And I like that. Don't stash the man. Let the man go somewhere you can play. And then guess what? He played well there. And you can build up his thing and go. And go get a starting role and make some money.

[Joe Johnson]

There you go.

[Uncle Ocho]

This game wasn't rigged. Don't call it. Rig with LA was clearly getting the behinds busted by okc. Yeah. Yeah. They. They lost. But I thought. I think he. I think you think so. I think you think, too, some of those calls for ticky tack calls.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

It might not have even impacted the game. Daniel Wells. People killed me saying pro sports are all rigged. Y' all really think these guys work as hard as they do to let someone tell them to miss a shop or drop a. Drop a pass?

[Joe Johnson]

Nah. What s you got, Ojo?

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, that a Ap. Armil Ap. Oh, you got. You just got an ap.

[Joe Johnson]

You got. Oh, that mug. Nasty.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, man, I had one, man. One of my house got broken into. I had one. They only made 75 of them.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, man. Don't tell me, don't tell me. Don't tell me. Don't tell.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, you still ain't get it back?

[Uncle Ocho]

I didn't get it back. I ain't got none of it back. And the problem, the thing was. Oho. Some of them watches. I mean, since I was probably my first, like my fourth year in the league.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

So that's what, you know, you. Hey, I ain't got the money. Had the money like I had.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

And so it meant something. Cause I gotta save up. I like, man, I want that. I want that. I want this day date or I want this. X, Y and Z.

[Liberty City Zone]

Right, Right.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

One day. Who's winning the. Who's winning a dance battle? Michael Jackson or Chris Brown? Chris Brown stole all mike moves and.

[Liberty City Zone]

But still. Still two completely type of dancers, though, stylistically. Two completely different type of dances. I. I mean, I. Obviously, I'm a dance. So just the comparison Is. It's. I understand it. But Chris Brown and the way Michael Jackson dances are completely, completely different because

[Uncle Ocho]

Chris can do all Mike's move. Mike ain't doing jumping and stuffing with Chris Brown. Do it. But ain't nobody ever that walked this earth gonna be big as that guy.

[Liberty City Zone]

No, it's impossible.

[Joe Johnson]

Most.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yo. Okay, see. Okay, see, Got Alan. First round picks on the squad. They stack top to bottom. They do. They've done a great job. Sam Preston's done an unbelievable job. And he. He might go down because you look at from Kevin Garnett to Westbrook to James Harden to making the trade for Shay and the draw, the J dub and the chance and the this and that, he gonna be one of the best.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes, sir. He one of the best years, bro.

[Uncle Ocho]

From Africa. The question is, Keanu Reeves, do you think the Lakers need Ocho to save these series? I don't know if o. Joke. I don't know if Ojo can help him.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

No ref cheated us tonight. The refs needs to be investigated. I don't know. I mean, I don't know if it might have been closer, but I don't know if the lake. Like I said, Lakers would have to play perfect.

[Joe Johnson]

And they. Hey, look, they were playing pretty good ball.

[Uncle Ocho]

They were.

[Joe Johnson]

They were. They were playing pretty good ball. I mean. Cause here, like I said, I always think when they get down double figures, it's hard for them to fight back because they ain't got the firepower. But they did that tonight.

[Uncle Ocho]

They did.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

I am almighty, James. Two times. All that arguing over a front seat, I would have told both of their ass to get in the back. Now my mom already be in the backseat. She already be. I'm like, damn. Well, I don't like to be late. I know how you are. Yeah, you right. You are absolutely right. Jordan and Kobe fans have been secretly hoping that LeBron don't get the fifth or sixth ring for at least a decade now. It will end the argument. There's enough room for everybody. Look, everybody can be great. They just. They're great in different ways. Kobe is more like Jordan, and that's okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Is a passer. He's more like Magic.

[Joe Johnson]

But who can score?

[Uncle Ocho]

Basically, Kobe is more styled like Jordan, and LeBron is more like Magic.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Stylistically, it's okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

What's up, y'? All? Name a better dancing trio than MC Hammer. MJ Turbo from Breaking.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, Turbo.

[Joe Johnson]

Turbo was hard boy.

[Uncle Ocho]

And Breaking classic Turbo. What about Boogaloo Shrimpaloo?

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, that's Throwback, huh?

[Uncle Ocho]

That's super throwback, man. Hammer boy, don't hurt him. Hammer. Hammer still cutting up while y' all playing? I saw a video a couple of months ago by Hammer was rehearsing.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey,

[Uncle Ocho]

who like the pumps in the book?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Hamill's big time, bro.

[Liberty City Zone]

Oh, yeah?

[Joe Johnson]

Have you seen her? You've seen her?

[Liberty City Zone]

Big time. Big time.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Stop. Hammertime. Hammer State the hotel. We. As a matter of fact, that was my rookie year. We played at la, and Hammer and team, they was performing. They stayed at the hotel. So Hammer and not Hammer, but his brother and a couple of the guys were then Melvin, Brad, they knew Fat Cat and they was. They came down, man. That was bad. What's up? Oh, Cho and ISO. ISO, can you put together an all time international team to go against the 92 Dream Team? You can coach. So how would they attack them? Hold on. No, no, no. Yeah, but you talk about. You got to realize those guys were old. If I take the 92 Dream Team and put them in their prime in 92, ain't nobody beating them.

[Joe Johnson]

Hell no. They had. They didn't have no weaknesses. They had everything you could think of. From facilitators, the scores to defenders, shot blockers.

[Uncle Ocho]

What?

[Joe Johnson]

That's when you had real centers in the NBA, bro. Real forwards, man, please.

[Uncle Ocho]

But I guess your international team, who you gonna put? You put Jokic, Giannis, Luca.

[Joe Johnson]

Man, just think, they no more gonna be dealing with David Robinson.

[Uncle Ocho]

Patrick.

[Joe Johnson]

Patrick Jordan, pimp. It's just

[Uncle Ocho]

Barkley, Malone, man.

[Joe Johnson]

What?

[Liberty City Zone]

They ain't gonna be able to do nothing.

[Joe Johnson]

That them real power forwards and centers, bro. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

I got into a car accident with a lady that was touching herself while driving. What? She came out of nowhere. Okay, how you know that?

[Liberty City Zone]

I like that. I like that.

[Joe Johnson]

What'd you like, Ojo?

[Liberty City Zone]

I mean, she was adventurous.

[Joe Johnson]

Adventurous?

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Sound like it was dangerous to me.

[Liberty City Zone]

I mean, adventurous.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, you get what? Oh, she came out of nowhere.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, that was a good one. Hey, that was slick.

[Uncle Ocho]

He got all of.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, see, everybody.

[Uncle Ocho]

Everybody hold on. Wait a minute.

[Liberty City Zone]

Everybody been hit. Everybody been hitting the jokes. Yeah, that was a smooth one.

[Uncle Ocho]

But.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, I just.

[Uncle Ocho]

Now, that happened one time. I was. I was on. I was 85. I was going back home, Joe. I was probably running. I was probably running 90. And I see this light. I'm looking. I look down at my screen. I'm like. I'm going 90. You way back there. What you flashing for? Flash. She hit me like three times, Joe. I moved over this lady.

[Joe Johnson]

No go, man. Get out of here.

[Uncle Ocho]

Gone with your bad self out of there, huh? I say, baby, I say speed on hell ain't full yet. They taking reservations.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, she. Hey, broad daylight. She hit them lights. I'm like, what? I'm looking. I'm going 90. What you mean you ain't up on? Man, that lady got up on me so damn quick, y', all, man, she's like,

[Liberty City Zone]

what she was driving, huh?

[Uncle Ocho]

Porsche. Oh, that's okay.

[Joe Johnson]

A hell of a drug.

[Uncle Ocho]

What are the play calls? She'd explained to me in football, ISO, what are the adjustments, like during the playoffs and how does coach make. How does the coach make them?

[Joe Johnson]

Well, in the playoffs, in NBA playoffs, it depends on what's killing you. Like, if you got a guy who's great in pick and roll, okay, Damn, he running the pick and roll. He kind of get. He kind of get what he want. Every time he runs it. Then that's when you start throwing that trap on his ass. We trap him, make him get up, you know, or mix up the coverages. I don't think, especially the great players in this league, you give them a steady diet of the same defensive coverages, they're gonna pick your ass apart. Gotta mix it up.

[Uncle Ocho]

Well, you got call, she works. Okay, you got first down plays. You got first and 10 plays, so you might got 15 of those, okay? Now you got second and one to three, you got second and five to 10, and then you got third and one to three, you got third, three to five, you got third and long and you got. Okay, you got red zone plays, you got gold to go plays, you got backed up plays. So a call sheet might have between 100 and 150 plays on it.

[Liberty City Zone]

And there's always got. I call got to have it plays, right? Yeah, that you wait in special moments towards the end of the game where you just got to have it a play that you're having to run, a wrinkle that they haven't seen, something that you haven't shown on film. But you got to have it in that one moment, you got to have that play. You got about two or three of those on that call sheet, and you don't go to it unless you really, really need it towards the end of a game.

[Uncle Ocho]

You got four, you probably got three or four fourth down plays. You got a couple of gadget plays.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. You always got about one or two gadget plays.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, you got a reverse or you got a fake, a plea flicker. So. The man. The man kills on LeBron and AR are gonna have to score between 90 and 100 points combined for the Lakers to win.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, real talk though. In order for the Lakers to win, they both gonna have to be at least close to 30. If not 30, I'm talking about.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, they. They're gonna need somewhere between 50 and 60 between the two of them for sure.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh yeah. Yeah. At a high efficiency rate.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And then you gotta get. You gotta get some great productivity from Aiden. You're gonna need at least.

[Uncle Ocho]

We need. We need Roy to keep doing what he's doing because Rui go give you about 20. Marcus Smart need to play. Marcus Martin need to have a game like he had against Houston. One of those first three games. First three games against Houston. And Luke Canard need to chip in and do what Luke Canard is capable of doing.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't know.

[Liberty City Zone]

He's got to play like he played tonight.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't know if Marcus Smart can have that type of game because his damn hands so full offensively dealing with Shay.

[Uncle Ocho]

You right.

[Joe Johnson]

Defensively, yeah.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Brandon Cow is the straw that broke the camel's back when it comes to Harden. Cals brought him in to get over the hump because Darius Garland couldn't. Cals might blow this up.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I agree. I agree.

[Uncle Ocho]

But you got decided. Why? Because you gave up Garland, who you had under contract for another two to three years. James Harden left the Clippers because he wanted a two year extension and they like.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Because giving you a two year extension doesn't kill it. Get us closer to where we need to be.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I think it'll definitely be hard to let him go because. Because you did Trey Garland. But damn, Unc Ocho if you get swept in this series. I don't know, I mean, you. You got to reevaluate some things.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Talk about the better game tonight. Much love Detroit. Detroit. You must be came in late, bro. We talked about how Cade every big shot they needed to make down the stretch, him and Tobias Harris answered the bail.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah,

[Uncle Ocho]

y' all the same one that told us that told the sun stop crying about the ref when they lost the okc. Now y' all crying about the Lakers using. He. He's 41. Well, tell him to retire. Stop making excuses. Down 13 with SJO on the bench.

[Joe Johnson]

Man, listen, OKC is a great team.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

SGA just leading the charge. But damn it, they pretty damn good without him. If you just want me to keep it. 101,000. They got a great system. They got a great system and those guys thrive in that System.

[Uncle Ocho]

Tobias got unkills now. Spider shook him. Yeah, that was. That was. That was pretty n. That was pretty nasty. I was like, damn.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey. You know, it's bad when you get set down like that, and then you go to grabbing that injury, you can't get right up because normally, hey, when a guy make you fall like that, you. You want to pop right on up.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, the more.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, the longer you stay down, the worse it is.

[Uncle Ocho]

And they keep replaying it to try to find out what happened, man. Don't show it. I'm okay. Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey. Donovan got a mean in and out game, boy.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Was a mistake for them, Joe. You think that was a mistake?

[Joe Johnson]

He couldn't stay healthy, man.

[Caller]

They.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, hell, they always, man. Yeah, they couldn't stay healthy, and they never had any playoff success. So at some point, you knew you can't. You could kind of see that they was gonna get rid of them.

[Uncle Ocho]

I know another guy that can't stay healthy, but you say they should stay on him. Who?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, Joel,

[Uncle Ocho]

you. He playing tomorrow, Joe?

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, he probably.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah, yeah, he playing tomorrow.

[Joe Johnson]

Probably will.

[Uncle Ocho]

How. What did this, Joel? As

[Joe Johnson]

Philly win the game? I seen Gilly today. You know we had the. The big three combine today. Yeah, Gilly out there. I. I don't. Listen, I don't know if Gilly really trying to get picked up by nobody on the big three, but I think he just love hooping and competing. Like, for him his age to be out there is good to see, but, you know, he a die hard Philly fan, and he says six is gonna win tomorrow.

[Uncle Ocho]

The ghost.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on, keep going. That man ain't talking about nothing.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay, I'm not saying Kobe was asked to do what Brian was asked to do, but Kobe did lead the Lakers and assist. Not deep fish. Check the numbers. Pull up. But if you're not saying if you. But you can't say that because you can't say Kobe wasn't asked to do what LeBron was asked to do. I mean, because think about it. Draymond normally lead the. The warriors in assist.

[Liberty City Zone]

You got got. You got Steph, baby Khaled.

[Uncle Ocho]

Y' all talking some ish, fellas. Cade is different for sure. Who y' all like in the East?

[Joe Johnson]

I told y' all I got. I got the Piston coming out of East O.

[Liberty City Zone]

Shoot. I said.

[Uncle Ocho]

I said the goddamn next man it's gonna be oo. I don't know. Without OG Philly might get back in this thing.

[Joe Johnson]

Got a point.

[Uncle Ocho]

Philly might get back in this thing.

[Liberty City Zone]

OG Without OG Hey, Knicks played him all.

[Uncle Ocho]

He was scoring at a. At. At a. Great. Hey, fam. Watching from Houston. It's my birthday, and I'd love to get a shout out from my favorite big three things. My grandma taught me if a woman would never tell a weight, income, or age. Bring nightcap to H town. We don't bite. Oh, but we had fun. I mean. Hey, Ocho, that thing was nice. Now.

[Liberty City Zone]

Oh, wait. And the one in Houston.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, boy. Hey, they don't owe me nothing, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, but why y'.

[Uncle Ocho]

All.

[Joe Johnson]

Why y' all so scared to go back, though, man?

[Uncle Ocho]

Joe, stop, man. You know why.

[Joe Johnson]

I just keep it 100, man. Yeah, the people want to see y', all, man.

[Liberty City Zone]

Man, I'm. I'm married, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, here he go now. He married.

[Uncle Ocho]

Y' all see me? How y' all doing?

[Liberty City Zone]

Houston married.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, we gotta tie. Hey, the tie was had in Atlanta and in Houston.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah, I'm gonna go back there. We need to go back to area I need to take. I gotta take on Area 29, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, Lord.

[Liberty City Zone]

I mean. I mean, just. Just use your visual. Just use your peripheral vision. You could just look straight ahead. Just. You wear some sunglasses.

[Uncle Ocho]

We gotta take. We gotta. How much we gotta take in there, Ocho?

[Liberty City Zone]

What? Money? Yeah, we ain't gotta take nothing there. Give it to us.

[Joe Johnson]

No, Joe, you got. You got to spend a little something.

[Liberty City Zone]

Joe, they gonna give us the money, I'm telling you.

[Uncle Ocho]

How's the food, boy?

[Liberty City Zone]

The food good, huh? I get. I get the shrimp pasta.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, oh, you're gonna have to take at least 2500 in the.

[Uncle Ocho]

I can do that.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, you're gonna take at least. At least 2500.

[Liberty City Zone]

Now, I just told you they gonna give us money on the house. And you steady telling the man to take money.

[Joe Johnson]

I wouldn't believe nothing Ocho say we guess, but they.

[Liberty City Zone]

They did it for me.

[Joe Johnson]

They still want your money. I don't give a damn. Cause you a guess or not.

[Liberty City Zone]

Nah, I ain't had to pay none. It's just that the Area 29 is like that. It's about hospitality for guests. They in there, they know how to treat people.

[Joe Johnson]

They in there like that. They like that in there. Well, who in Area 21?

[Liberty City Zone]

Shoot, boy, I tell you, Ray Charles walking that. Bet he can see. I bet. I bet he can see.

[Uncle Ocho]

The Cowboys will be competitive this season. Not saying we're gonna win, but we'll be legit. Winner, divisional round, getting to the NFC championship in 2027. Ocho, what's up? They're gonna be legit.

[Joe Johnson]

Who? Cowboys.

[Uncle Ocho]

Cowboys?

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah. They're gonna be all right. They gonna be all right.

[Joe Johnson]

I appreciate that, you know, hey, listen,

[Liberty City Zone]

I ain't gonna say nothing bad. I like what they did in the draft. I like what they did in the off season.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm gonna be all right. We appreciate that, bro. We thought you were gonna be a. A big hater, bro.

[Liberty City Zone]

I ain't no hater, Joe. I'm honest.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay?

[Liberty City Zone]

Honest. That's one thing about him. I'm honest.

[Joe Johnson]

We appreciate that, bro. We appreciate that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. The Pistons take a 20 lead, 107 to 97 over the Cavaliers. Tobias Harrison, Kate Cunningham were sensational down the stretch. The Lakers go to 02, but they go home for the next two games. The next game will be Saturday. They lose this game 125 to 107. Lost it by the same margin on one. What was it? 120 to 102 last game. But they're down oh two. So are the Cavaliers. They'll see if they can go home and get some home cooking. Cooking. And flip this series. These series around. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite unc. And there's my partner, Liberty City Zone, a former Bingo. He's a ring of Fame honoree pro.

[Liberty City Zone]

I'm the ISO. I'm the ISO Slayer.

[Uncle Ocho]

What? The ISO Slayer.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, watch your mouth, partner. Watch your mouth.

[Uncle Ocho]

Johnson. And the third member of the big three is a seven time NBA all star. He's known as ISO from the Atlanta Hawks. That is ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys for your support and your continued support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shade by Laportier, head over to laportierconjac.com to purchase you a bottle if it's currently unavailable in a state or city near you. It is the best tasting premium VSOP cognac on the market and it drinks like an XO. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Again, the Pistons 107, the Cavaliers 97 as the Pistons go up 2 0. Next game Saturday in Cleveland. OKC go up 20125 to 107. The next game is Saturday in the Crip. Thank you guys for joining us. We'll see you back tomorrow night. Peace.

[Joe Johnson]

Peace out.

[Uncle Ocho]

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