Nightcap Hour 2: Illinois SHUTS DOWN Iowa + Doc Rivers Speaks on BUCKS ELIMINATION from PLAYOFFS + Sixers BIG 3 is BACK + Arizona ADVANCES to FINAL FOUR

Summary

Nightcap Hour 2: Illinois SHUTS DOWN Iowa + Doc Rivers on BUCKS ELIMINATION + Sixers BIG 3 is BACK + Arizona ADVANCES to FINAL FOUR

Date: March 29, 2026
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe ("Uncle Shay Shay"), Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, and "Joe"
Podcast: Nightcap — Shay Shay Media & Playmaker

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Episode Overview

This Nightcap episode dives into the latest headlines and instant reactions from the NCAA Tournament and the NBA. The hosts break down Arizona’s historic Final Four run, Illinois’ dominant performance over Iowa, the turbulence surrounding Doc Rivers and the Milwaukee Bucks’ playoff exit, and the resurgence of the Philadelphia 76ers’ new "Big 3." They also discuss the troubling situation with Ja Morant, the nature of team building in the NBA, and what true greatness demands.

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NCAA TOURNAMENT REACTIONS

Arizona Advances to the Final Four (02:52–06:28)

• Arizona defeats Purdue 79–64, making their first Final Four since 2001 and setting a school record for wins (36).
• The Wildcat freshmen—Braden Buris, Carson No’coff, and Cole Pete—combined for 52 points.
  • Joe: "I was a little worried in the first half though... but boy, jokers came out in the second half." (02:52)
  • Ocho: "Second half...coach told 'em, look, y'all gonna mess around and we gonna be lookin' back on this game talkin' about 'man, we should still be playing.' I need you to come out with a little sense of urgency." (03:42)
• Purdue's size and offensive rebounding challenged Arizona until the young Wildcats imposed their rhythm.
  • Ocho: "All three of those guys—freshmen—number 8 is a freshman, Burris a freshman, hov, huh... Cole Pete really got into his rhythm, the big boy was going at those bigs." (03:42-04:47)
• Uncle Joe: "Cole Pete—he nice, bro. Great in transition, can shoot the three, played fearless." (04:53)

Notable Quote

• Ocho: "Collectively as a team? I don't really see nobody beating Arizona, man. I ain't gonna lie." (05:16)

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Illinois Dominates Iowa with Size (06:40–09:27)

• Illinois reaches their first Final Four since 2005 by outscoring Iowa 40–12 in the paint and out-rebounding them 38–21.
• Illini’s bigs, including "that big 7'1" junior," controlled the paint while guards like Keegan Waggler (described as a future lottery pick) made perimeter shots.
  • Ocho: "Keegan Waggler—he gonna be a lottery pick, Ojo, in this year's draft." (07:01)
• Bench play highlighted by Yakovic: 17 points off the bench, super efficient.
  • Ocho: "He can shoot it, but this boy here—get to the rack, okay Ojo, he ain't even shootin' no three tonight." (07:31)

Notable Quote

• Joe: "They look good. Iowa hung around as long as they could, but you gotta have some guards who you can lean on, but you also need some good bigs who're gritty, tough... Illinois is ready, man." (08:20)

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Bracket Banter & March Madness Vibes (09:27–11:20)

• Friendly trash talk about brackets and making March Madness picks by mascot.
  • Joe (teasing): "He picked all animals. He got the Wildcats, Huskies. If you got an animal in your name, that’s what he did." (10:41)
• Uncle Joe: “I’m gonna play lotto and split it with y’all. That’s what winners do.” (11:38)

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NBA HEADLINES: BUCKS TURMOIL & DOC RIVERS OUTLOOK

Doc Rivers on Bucks' Elimination & Milwaukee's Pivot (15:50–22:44)

• Doc Rivers expresses disappointment following Bucks’ early playoff elimination, citing injuries and "all the talk."
  • Doc Rivers (quoted by Joe): "Since I've been here I haven't had a healthy stretch...we needed help, we were thin...all the talk and all the stuff probably didn't help either." (15:50)
• Hosts discuss the front office drama and the Adrian Griffin firing (despite 42–13 record).
  • Ocho: "They were number one or two in the East at the time...I don't know what they saying getting rid of Doc." (16:22)

Key Themes:

• Giannis’ Future:
  • Joe: "Giannis is going to get traded this offseason." (17:10)
  • Ocho: "I believe so too, it's gonna happen." (17:16)
• Team Reset:
  • Joe: "You're probably going to have to trade him to where he doesn't want to go... everybody knows you got to trade him, they know you're not going to let this contract walk for free." (17:46-17:56)
• Rebuilding Challenges:
  • Ocho: "It's hard to get free agents in Milwaukee. You gotta draft really well." (18:44)
• Struggles after trading for Dame Lillard and signing Miles Turner.
  • Joe: "Once Chris Middleton hurt that knee, he was never the same." (21:44)

Notable Quote

• Ocho: "I just don't know how [Doc] holds on to this, especially if they get rid of Giannis..." (19:02)
• Uncle Joe (on Giannis' trade rumors): "You saw the reports... where there's smoke, there's fire." (23:06)

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JA MORANT & THE COST OF GREATNESS

Ja Morant, Memphis Clean-Out & Change of Scenery (23:31–26:56)

• Deep dive on Ja Morant’s turbulent Memphis tenure, loss of supporting cast, and rumored Miami move.
  • Ocho: "It's time to get outta Memphis. They gave up everything they had around him that was worth something, O Joe." (23:40)
• Joe: "I just don't know... Ja's gonna have to do things differently—how he conducts himself off the court." (24:05)
• Uncle Joe: "If the golden goose ain't gonna have the brains, somebody else has to be the thinker for them." (30:15)

Memorable Exchange About Discipline

• Ocho: "If working ain't first and foremost in your life, partner, then yeah, it's gonna be a problem [in Miami]." (24:48)
• Joe (on Ja's hype vs discipline): "He got one of the hottest shoes out... and you're not even playing." (25:26)
• Uncle Joe (on leadership): "He need to hang around somebody like me... when it comes to discipline and locking in on doing something, I don't play like that, Joe." (25:57)

The Importance of "Keeping the Main Thing the Main Thing" (28:21–32:00)

• Ocho: "You can never forget how you got there... never forget how you got there." (28:41)
• Joe: "You'll leave the game or the game will leave you. But don't lose sight of who and what you are." (28:43)
• Uncle Joe: "If we have a group... you gotta protect—somebody got to be the brains." (30:15)
• Joe: "When you was a kid growing up, who was there, who believed in you?" (42:15)

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WHAT IT TAKES: SACRIFICE, GREATNESS & CULTURE

Sacrifice, Monotony, and Building Winning Culture (39:15–44:39)

• Greatness requires making sacrifices, often unseen and repetitive.
  • Joe: "Greatness is boring... ain't nothin' sexy about lifting iron and running yourself into exhaustion." (39:15)
• Ocho: "It ain't complicated work, it's not. But y'all know it's a lot of sacrifices that gotta come with it." (38:44)
• Reflections on how legends like Brady, Serena, and Tiger have all repeated the same monotony and sacrifices for sustained greatness.
  • Joe: "The greater the accomplishment, the greater the sacrifice must be to meet said accomplishment." (41:11)
• Miami Heat culture praised for discipline and focus.
  • Ocho: "After the game, the whole team in the weight room... everybody in there. I never seen an environment like that." (36:31)

Notable Quote

• Joe: "You gotta have somebody... tell you what you need to know, not what you want to hear." (30:50)
• Ocho: "If you ain't got people around you who think like you... you gotta have that." (39:15)

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NBA CHECK-IN: Sixers' Big 3 Returns

Philadelphia 76ers: ‘Big 3’ is Healthy and Dangerous (45:56–48:26)

• Joel Embiid, Paul George, and Tyrese Maxey lift Sixers to a big win; team looks dangerous if healthy.
  • Joe: “Joel Embiid: 29 points, 6 rebounds, 2 blocks... Paul George: 26 points... Tyrese Maxey: 26 points... If they’re healthy, can they make some noise in the East?” (45:56)
  • Ocho: "Their veteran presence mixed in with Maxey and Edgecombe... man, they could beat anybody in the East, can't nobody guard Embiid." (46:23)

Notable Quote

• Joe: "Ain’t nobody in the NBA can guard Joel Embiid… not in the East, not in the West, North, South, ABA, G-League, ain't nobody can guard Joel Embiid." (46:58)

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Episode Highlights & Memorable Moments

• Hosts’ Chemistry: Playful ribbing about bracket picks and sports knowledge, showing close camaraderie.
• March Madness Insight: Firsthand analysis on youth impact, the value of size, and how adjustments changed the tide for Arizona and Illinois.
• NBA Real Talk: Unfiltered takes on why teams break down, front office missteps, and the true cost of betting everything on a superstar.
• Leadership & Character: Nearly a masterclass in what takes athletes from hype to legend—persistent work, self-discipline, the right culture, and sacrificing for dreams.
• Miami Heat Culture: Ocho’s inside recall underscores why certain organizations churn out success—"the whole team in the weight room" after games.

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Key Timestamps

• Arizona vs Purdue Recap: 02:52–06:28
• Illinois vs Iowa & Final Four Setups: 06:40–09:27
• Bracket Banter: 09:27–11:20
• Milwaukee Bucks & Doc Rivers: 15:50–22:44
• Ja Morant/Memphis/Leadership: 23:31–32:00
• Sacrifice & Path to Greatness: 39:15–44:39
• 76ers 'Big 3' is Back: 45:56–48:26

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Final Takeaway

This Nightcap episode unites NCAA and NBA storylines around a central theme: talent gets you noticed, but sustained discipline and the right environment make you a champion. Sharpe, Ochocinco, and Joe mix real talk, humor, and sharp analysis—making their show "must-listen" for hoops fans and aspiring athletes alike.

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Quotes edited lightly for clarity. All times in MM:SS format based on provided transcript.

Transcript

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[Joe]

the first time since two thousand one the arizona wildcats are headed back to the final four the top seeded wildcats punched their ticket with a seventy nine sixty four win over the number two purdue boilermakers setting a school record for wins in a season thirty six in the process the wildcats will take their thirteen game winning streak to indianapolis where they'll play the winner of sunday's game michigan and tennessee against the veteran purdue team arizona was led by it's talented freshman braden bur is fourteen i can't even say his last name carson no coff eighteen and cor pete had twenty combined for fifty two to up phase up faith on the biggest stage in their young careers i was a little worried in the first half though joe but boy jokers came out in the

[Uncle Joe]

second half i don't know what kind of adjustments they made at halftime uncle

[Ocho]

joe nah they hey hey they coach told him look y' all gonna mess around and we gonna be looking back on this game talking about man we should be still playing that's what he told me i need to come out with a little sense of urgency in the second half because in that second half uncle ocho the two freshmen matter of fact the three freshmen the guy number eight i can't say his name neither but cold p and burrow and burris they turned it up in the second half i thought cole p really got into his he got into a rhythm the big boy he got into a rhythm and he was going at them bigs that purdue got that's why purdue was able to hang into the game and that's why when you seen arizona play against arkansas we kind of thin and frail down there we got guys who could play on the perimeter but we ain't really got enough girth to deal with them big guys purdue had that purdue had some big that was going at them they was offensive rebounding they was making it tough for arizona i just thought in the second half arizona everything kind of slowed down for them freshmen because all three of those guys freshmen number eight is a freshman freshman burry's a freshman hov huh

[Uncle Joe]

car

[Ocho]

he nice bro he nice great in transition can shoot the three he played fearless get to the bucket he didn't make no three tonight but for the for the most part he's been a great energy source for those guys man they play well together they got some great some good bigs mixed in with these freshmen who kind of doing some heavy lifting uncle ocho but they deep they player of the year was a point guard bro yeah i don't even know if he was a leading scorer on the team maybe he was but i didn't think he was the best player in the big twelve that's just me personally but collectively as a team i don't really see nobody beating arizona man i ain't gonna lie gonna

[Joe]

be interesting to see what what michigan does with tennessee tomorrow we'll see what uconn and duke does that's gonna be a good one boy yeah but arizona look good they look good four guys had four guys in double figures they

[Ocho]

did because hey hey purdue purdue is a disciplined team uncle ocho they ain't you know they ain't gonna typically beat themselves they had a few turnovers here and there but for the most part they play the right way they play through their bigs they point guards play make score i mean it was a tough game like you said in that first half i thought purdue was going

[Joe]

to run away with that thing yep

[Ocho]

i did too it was on locked in that second half fellas came out

[Joe]

that second half it was like oh damn they start hey they started letting them threes go they start hey they started crashing the boards and getting second chance opportunity i like okay yeah and you see once they got the lead pretty soon you ain't see number tail

[Ocho]

lights nope everybody pitching in doing something they they they they a great team collectively bro they gonna be tough to beat i ain't gonna lie they're gonna be tough to be

[Joe]

illinois going to their first final four since two thousand five when they were led by darren williams team in college basketball figured out to use their size to an advantage the third seed ilana outscored the ninth seeded iowa forty to twelve in the paint and out rebounded them thirty eight to twenty one whoever says size doesn't

[Ocho]

matter illinois got hey that that big seventy one junior they got down there that that big boy in the in the paint playing around these perimeter guards that they got who can score you know keegan wagner waggler he gonna be a he gonna be a lottery pick ojo in this year's draft oh he

[Joe]

hey hey he got busy today joe

[Ocho]

yeah that's another freshman that's another freshman stepping up making plays playing huge guess

[Joe]

who else stepped up joe who stow

[Ocho]

yakovic there you go yeah you know what he might come out too an ojo he might junior he play he played well he played well today i mean super efficient you know we look at his dad because his dad was such a great three point shooter he can shoot it but this boy here get to the rack okay ojo he ain't even shooting no three tonight yeah

[Uncle Joe]

he had seventeen points he was seven for nine yeah he did off the bench too uncle joe yeah he's been

[Ocho]

doing that he been doing that all year though i ain't gonna lie to y' all i done seen illinois play a few times he been doing that all year he been doing that all year illinois's got a great chance yeah you got you got them big boys in the paint who know how to play and ain't gonna take no bull job down there you got you a few guards who can get to that chicken yeah and you got hey you

[Joe]

got a chance hey the atlanta man they look they they look good i will hung around as long as they could yeah they did they needed they really needed their guard their guards to like play above their head yeah yeah sturts played well i mean i mean he did what he did he does what he normally does he does he did what he was supposed to do yeah and hell i don't think i don't think he's been off the court i think he's played all forty minutes

[Ocho]

damn near all games yeah yeah nah he did he had to what we what we saving you for yeah you're gonna have a whole week of rest if we could win hey but yeah they guards they guards they had to get something from your guards bro at this juncture you know the tournament you gotta have some guys who you can lean on perimeter wise but you also need some good bigs you know who gritty tough and can get you some chippies around the basket right illinois is ready man they ready for the next round fellas they they might be who they got next huh they don't play arizona do they no

[Uncle Joe]

yeah we got hey hey either way that's gonna be hell either way whoever whoever they got to play out of them two is

[Ocho]

gonna be hell boy man yeah cause

[Joe]

they honestly yeah yeah okay and then

[Ocho]

the winner of

[Joe]

with the out here at the bottom iowa state in michigan

[Ocho]

ocho you had arizona when you got

[Uncle Joe]

arizona winning go ahead hey hey hey hey hey you know my bracket my bracket's still intact baby i told you

[Ocho]

hey hey i ain't gonna lie to you ojo you do you do for a win bro you do for one

[Uncle Joe]

you do for one like that joe

[Ocho]

don't do me like that you do for one you do talk about look

[Uncle Joe]

at my bracket joe huh what we talking about that's what i do joe

[Ocho]

so you need you hey joe you

[Uncle Joe]

might have played the game of basketball but when it comes to picking winners that's what i do joe i've been a winner all my life see that's

[Joe]

why we can't never let it win i don't know who worse ocho or

[Ocho]

joe what come on man come on

[Uncle Joe]

come on i i don't brag i don't brag y' all the one making fun of me talking about i pick

[Ocho]

mascot man holler by he don't brag just got through gloating talking about he

[Joe]

don't do animals hey he picked all animals he got the wildcats he got huskies if you got an animal in your name that's ot that's what he

[Uncle Joe]

did that's what he did see how y' all know some of the things y' all don't say hurt me how you know it don't hurt me inside

[Ocho]

dang your bracket busted too huh oh

[Joe]

yeah my bracket i'm done i'm done

[Uncle Joe]

hey y' all need to just follow

[Joe]

my lead from now on your ocho

[Ocho]

still got michigan hold on but but if arizona if arizona lose they next game i mean what is it it's just a it's a three way tight

[Joe]

end huh nah cause he got he got duke he still got duke he got duke going to the final four and he got arizona going to the final four so if one of them go to the final four what y'

[Uncle Joe]

all talking about what hey matter of fact you know what i'm gonna do

[Joe]

joe uncle joe what you gonna do

[Uncle Joe]

lotto i'm gonna play lotto and i know i'm guessing right numbers but and whatever i win i' ma split it

[Ocho]

with y' all you would do that

[Joe]

yeah for y' all yeah joe you still got oh joe if michigan if michigan goes you need you need what you call but you basically you need him to get knocked out you only got one chance he got two chances what i need you gotta hope you gotta hope you gotta hope duke at arizona get knocked out hey that's really the only chance you got cause you still got you still got one team you got michigan going to the finals

[Ocho]

hey hey hey hey long as i got long as i got a fighting chance you hear me as long as i got a chance hey you never know

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[Joe]

com doc rivers on the bucks being eliminated from the playoffs it's been disappointing obviously since i've been here i haven't had a healthy stretch and it's been out your key guys it's been giannis it's been dame this year having only one quote unquote star every other team has two or three we needed help we were thin and all the talk and all the stuff probably didn't help

[Uncle Joe]

either is that those considered excuses yeah

[Ocho]

i mean yeah yeah yeah i think

[Joe]

they decision to move adrian griffin who was what forty two and thirteen something

[Ocho]

like that joe yeah yeah he would be yeah he he was doing a hell of a job i know that i think they were number what one or two in the east at the time huh yeah yeah ouch i don't know man i don't know what what they saying they getting rid of doc

[Joe]

look ever since the uncertainty with with giannis for the last couple of years as jan is going as he's staying they they got rid of a lot of their roster to get dane they gave up a lot to get dane that didn't pan out dame is back in back in portland yeah giannis is going to get traded this offseason i

[Ocho]

believe so too it's gonna happen i believe so too it's gonna happen he's

[Joe]

not gonna sign the extension and they're not going to let let him go into that last year on that and and walk for nothing absolutely foolish to do that so he's gonna get moved and what do you have well you're

[Ocho]

gonna have to hope hope you trade for some some that's i don't know if you can get either no but never if you you know you making you can get some some good compensation for sure

[Joe]

but in order to get good compensation you're probably going to have to trade him to where he doesn't

[Uncle Joe]

want to go whoa that would just

[Joe]

because you know joe the team everybody knows what you got to trade him they know you're not going to let this contract the ink on this contract dry and let it walk out the door for free yeah you're not going to let have an okc situation what happened with kevin durant kevin durant walked out of the door and got you got nothing yeah yeah and so you got to trade it where he wants to be traded probably doesn't have the compensation or the players that you would want to try to rebuild this i

[Ocho]

don't know i think you got to

[Joe]

think about when they traded kareem you know how long it was before they fielded a contender a long ass time

[Ocho]

because it's hard to get free agents

[Joe]

in milwaukee yeah you got to draft really well they did a good job

[Ocho]

yep but i agree

[Joe]

i don't i don't i honestly and i like doc i just don't know how he holds

[Ocho]

on to this especially if they if

[Joe]

they they're eliminated from the postseason they

[Ocho]

done yeah especially i'm saying but with that being said especially if they get rid of giannis i can't i can't see i can't see doc stand either i ain't gonna lie to y' all because he went over there with trying

[Joe]

to figure out joe what made them do what they did they had to have consulted giannis on this ain't no

[Ocho]

way oh yeah it might have been

[Uncle Joe]

him him and him and the head coach maybe they was hit maybe heads

[Ocho]

or something maybe and i think they brought doc in there to to to be able to deal with dame and giannis you know two two great talents to try and get him to mesh you know similar to what he did with kg paul pierce and ray allen i think they brought him in for those reasons thinking that he could get them over the hump and they just got bogged down with injuries bro and never reached their potential damn that's messed up yeah so they wonder has clothes

[Joe]

for sure you know the wheels came off the moment dame got hurt and they bought dame out of that contract yeah it was over because look at the compensation that you gave up to get dame now you're saying you know what it failed fans of milwaukee fans we failed you

[Ocho]

yeah because you pay miles turner with one hundred eight million and talking about you only got one star well hell you just paid somebody one hundred eight million to come help him and he won which he wasn't what you thought he would be no

[Joe]

and i don't know what he thought he was gonna what what was gonna happen when he went there i don't know maybe he was frustrated with his role in in indy i i don't know joe i think he thought hey dame with dame there you know giannis i can anchor the defense get some easy buckets because they're going to load up to stop giannis and load up stat dame and i'm gonna be working

[Ocho]

some one on one and he can i think and he was thinking more of you know you look at giannis who you know is a downhill demon he gonna get downhill he gonna create habit and if i'm a center if i'm miles turner where i'm gonna be i'm gonna be spotted up at that three point line they paying me to keep this floor space keep these dudes honest and let and lay giannis work and it just haven't been the case bro

[Joe]

and that's the thing when you sign with free agencies you never know

[Ocho]

you don't man i mean when they

[Joe]

broke when they broke that team up well what really happened is chris middleton got hurt once chris middleton hurt that knee he was never the same yeah nah he was never the same a couple of years and then they ended up moving on he wasn't the same they let holiday go they thought they would they thought they could you know fix it with kuzma and some other pieces garrett trent junior and it just it didn't work i like bobby portis off the bench but it just didn't

[Ocho]

work yeah no i think bobby bobby been giving him great minutes even because when them guys sit out and he start he gonna get you twenty and ten you know i think he a great asset to have on the bench coming off the bench he'll probably cause he still got some great value he'll probably get moved too but it's unfortunate

[Joe]

bro they're probably going to start all the way from scratch joe they're probably

[Ocho]

gonna yeah that's what i'm figuring they're

[Joe]

gonna strip it down strip it down to the foundation and try to build this thing back up hey uncle joe

[Uncle Joe]

they gonna do the same thing the dolphins doing you hear me what you mean strip it down strip it down to the bottom i can tell you i told i told you where giannis was going right so we we know what that destination is going to be

[Ocho]

you think he's still going to miami

[Uncle Joe]

joe i done sat in the meeting joe i'm telling you now when when you saw the reports about it happening and you saw the reports where there's smoke there's fire that's how that's how that's how i be telling y' all i know what i'd be talking about it just wasn't able to happen but when when off season come and it happened like man ojo you was right you know you know my eyes and my ears to everything have sports related

[Ocho]

in florida now so what's gonna happen

[Uncle Joe]

with ja hey you know what hey

[Ocho]

what's wrong with young bull it's time to get out of memphis hey hey

[Uncle Joe]

what's wrong with with young bull over

[Ocho]

there in memphis they didn't gave up everything yeah everything they had around them that was worth something o joe they

[Joe]

gave him they traded jasmine bane they traded john i mean look they got think about what they got four first for jasmine bane i think they got three two or three ones for triple

[Ocho]

j yeah you gave up booker like you gave up all your muscle i mean man what you looking for now

[Joe]

and so now i just don't know i mean ja's gonna have to do things differently what you mean by what you mean by that huh how he conducts himself off the court so you

[Uncle Joe]

mean you think he's still gonna be

[Joe]

there it doesn't matter where he goes he's still going to have to conduct himself differently than what he did in

[Uncle Joe]

memphis oh yeah yeah most definitely most definitely but but i i think conducting himself and when it comes when it comes to going to the right environment you know going over to that that that prison that that that prison over there in miami which is like playing the bill belichick in basketball terms the closest thing to the patriots and bill belichick the patriot way is the miami

[Ocho]

heat themselves ocho yeah if you got some discipline it won't even affect you bro like it it's just a way of life you know what i mean like yeah they expect you to work hard but if you're a disciplined guy you know who don't mind doing a little work you know what i mean like that ain't gonna it ain't gonna affect you trust me i've been in the system bro it ain't gonna affect you but if if if if working first and foremost in your life partner then yeah it's gonna be a problem

[Uncle Joe]

yeah we gonna get him right we're gonna hey hey joe he need to get his nba career back on track

[Joe]

i hope so you got to man

[Ocho]

the man got the hottest shoe he got one of the hottest shoes out yep and you can't and you i mean you and you not even playing

[Joe]

and just imagine just imagine joe what he could be with that engine that

[Ocho]

is nike behind you yeah they they had him projected right now as we speak he's supposed to be top three point guard in the league right now if not the best he that's what he's supposed to be right now yeah

[Uncle Joe]

see i he he needed he need to hang around somebody like me joe why is that listen i'm only talking about on on the point of the discipline and always want to work so okay okay that's all and i know i play around and make jokes a lot i'm talking about serious yeah when it comes to that discipline stuff and locking in on doing something i don't

[Ocho]

play like that joe yeah i got you i got you think about what

[Joe]

he was before he started doing all this these shenanigans he's all star all nba hey a sight to see you

[Ocho]

hear me hey that's right uncle joe

[Uncle Joe]

he was a sight to see i don't even watch basketball but there are certain individuals that will force me to turn the game on because there's something to see it's exciting because you don't know what's gonna happen a player like ja is unpredictable in the game i'm not talking about i'm not talking about the antics i'm talking about what are you doing that goddamn court yeah yeah

[Joe]

off the court started impacting yeah it

[Uncle Joe]

gets in the way antman is another one ain't no telling what the hell he gonna do on the court hey

[Ocho]

yeah but that's why when these guys first come into the league you always see these great flashes because one like we all know because we all been there our first time playing and professional playing in the pros you so damn nervous and scared that you like i'm gonna do whatever i gotta do to be able to shine out here like i'm gonna work my butt off i'm in it you know what i mean like your work ethic is through the roof when you first get to the league bro but once you figure the system out uncle ocho and you know how to manipulate it a little bit yeah stop working as hard you know what i mean cause things then became a little easy your confidence through the roof and you know can't nobody stay in front of you i think the work tends to suffer a little bit because you starting to get you getting all these sponsors from all these different people and you got all these obligations that you gotta meet but you gotta always keep the work in the forefront and don't forget the main thing the main thing man you can never forget how you got there bro to be able to sustain and stick around for a long time you can never forget how you got there you remember as a kid hell i know i ain't gonna lie when i was seven eight years old i was wishing i could play in the nba so from that point on till i was twenty years old when i got drafted that's how long i had been working ocho i

[Joe]

tell guys all the time i said bro you a football player now i'm with this okay when they take football to play take football away when last time you heard from a mocho

[Ocho]

that's

[Joe]

a good one no but you said no no no no no that's not what you said you said you was this this and this and this now football's gone i ain't seen nothing yeah

[Ocho]

keep the main thing the main thing

[Joe]

yes sir use football to do all these other things there will come a time that the the the you'll leave the game or the game will leave you but then you can act a fool do whatever you want to do but don't lose sight of who and what you are you are a football player don't you let these people get it don't hey don't you listen to the street committee on this social media tell you that you something else when they take that away when they take basketball away when they take football away

[Ocho]

what they doing yeah on to the

[Joe]

next bro you it everything is right there for you right there for you and look at some point in time look we gotta hold we gotta hold the individual responsible because i had a great conversation i had michael vick i had michael vick on the pod and you know when he worked at fox i did we talked to him and i was like mike it wasn't nobody around you that could tell you he like everybody that was around me was doing what exactly what was i doing hello so how are they going to tell me to stop and then why would i listen to them right so if you don't have you don't have a voice of reason in your ear because here the thing ocho you know this joe you know this i'm not going to be the one because i'm not going to have you stop the bus and ask me to get off because i've tried to have you do right i'm going to let you do wrong so you keep me on this damn bus yeah yeah that's one of

[Uncle Joe]

the problems huh everybody entourage too many too many yes men yes they're always going to be somebody that got got to be the brains yeah you got to if if we have an entourage we have a group of people we've been around since yay high whatever now you've made it now you the golden goose you the golden egg yes you gotta you gotta protect you gotta protect right yeah somebody got to be the brains and if they if if the golden goose ain't gonna have the brains somebody else has to be the thinker for them right and they'll be thinking

[Joe]

man so hey you gotta have somebody or multiple people that tell you what you need to know and not what you want to hear because a lot of times people that you write john man you be you you gotta you got this far being you yeah i can be me why would you even want to your entire life to get your family out of that getting out of the projects or getting out of that single family and there's nothing wrong with that but ain't nobody says you know what i want to be a professional athlete and still stay in the environment and the circumstances that i've grew up in right nobody says that so don't get me wrong because i know y' all gonna flip it man i'll make it seem like there's something wrong with the projects i'm not saying that but you work your ass off for a reason to leave those situations only to have the same mentality that you had when you was in that situation yeah shouldn't you want to change yeah i would hope so if you think about it guys you make it out of there what do you do you get you a nice car you get your nice you don't drive that same type of car that you had when you was growing up hello hubcaps missing

[Ocho]

mismatched tires yeah

[Joe]

you don't i just i i think he's phenomenal and i had an opportunity guy y' all know look i saw him i saw him play several times i've been to a lot of laker memphis games i think we all know that yeah he's phenomenal yeah he's phenomenal why are we trying so hard so i can breathe why do you need to breathe so i can think if i can breathe if i can breathe i can think if i can think if i can think if i can think then i can win leagues look beast rated r in

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[Joe]

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[Ocho]

come on home i think boy i think he'll thrive i ain't gonna lie to y' all i think he'll thrive in that miami situation come on joe talk to me joe i'm saying because you know what one thing about pat riley he gonna have a real sit down a one on one with him you know what i mean he do with everybody hell he did with me and it's gonna be something in that meeting bro that you're gonna be able to take and run with and all you got to do is apply if you apply i promise you the sky the sky would be the limit for this kid again bro then i don't know i just feel like memphis ready to move on i think j ready

[Joe]

they are they're moving on joe and

[Ocho]

to get in a new they clean house and to get in a new environment you know it it it it'll help in in more ways than one i want to see him i want to see him excel uncle ocho i want to see job back out there throwing grenades covering his ears i wanna i'm here for all that man i i like the cool stuff you know what i mean i also like to see the guys who put in the work though you know i love i love me a hard working cat a dude who don't mind being there first and being there last you know getting getting getting them shots getting them shops up before practice after practice he in the weight room and that's why i say in miami bro i never seen an environment like that i'm talking about to where after the game the whole team in the weight room we all in there lifting weights i'm talking about d wade ud it don't matter everybody in there and that's the type of environment you want to be around them dudes weren't rushing up out of there uncle ocho to go to no club i never went to the club when i played for the heat man we work so much boy i couldn't wait to go home and lay down man

[Joe]

joe that's the thing the club gonna be there the club gonna be there yeah club will be there when you out the league too and they're gonna treat you different when you ain't that

[Uncle Joe]

guy hey hey hey uncle hey uncle joe and one thing about that club in miami hey joe you know it don't you know people don't show up till two three in the morning i

[Ocho]

know hey hey and they love the miami heat uncle ocho yes they love them heat players boy that's all you

[Joe]

got and that's the thing just hey when your best player is your hardest worker you that's why you get you get a kevin durant you get a kobe you get a jordan you get a steph curry you get a lebron that's what you get you get shay that's what you get and then when you see these guys that maybe not as talented and they work their asses off now you get a tyrese maxi now you get austin reeves yeah that's what you get yeah you see guys like well damn where he come from yeah he came for working his ass

[Ocho]

off that's it head down it's not

[Joe]

that it's not that complicated it's not but you know the ones that work

[Ocho]

it ain't complicated work it ain't complicated but y' all know it's a lot of sacrifices that got to come with it meaning meaning listen meaning if you ain't hey if you ain't got people around you who think like you meaning like if you just got cats around you and they can't wait till nine ten o' clock come to ask you if we going to the club or not man please you gotta have some dudes who around you who want to work who gonna hold you accountable and keep you in check bro like you you gotta have that you know you gotta have that

[Joe]

i look and people go jump in the comments man everybody work hard on their job for forty years a lot of people work hard work at their job and have no aspirations of moving up i'm just here to collect this check i'm good right i'm talking about a guy greatness is boring go sit down and talk to any of the greats i'm i'm talking about in an athlete's term because i haven't you know i've met jeff bezos and have a conversation but we did not talk business he wanted to talk sports so we talk sports yeah most of the time when those type of people come around they don't want to talk about what they do they want to talk about what you do yeah and how did you do what you did and what was it like what was elway like what was td like what was brady like what peyton mandema that's what they want to talk about but when you talk about greatness i wish listen to them talk listen that brady listen that brady when he talk about greatness and the sacrifices that he make and the monotony of it look at serena when she talk about greatness and the sacrifice and the monotony and tiger and i know tiger's going through what he's going through but it's hard to deny nobody had a peak like

[Ocho]

he had yeah no no sir look

[Joe]

at lebron look at steph look at all the great it is very monotonous because ain't nothing entertaining ain't nothing sexy about lifting iron and running yourself into exhaustion and getting up like joe say a thousand fifteen hundred shots a day and ain't nothing sexy about that guess what you do it over and over and over and people tell me man you eat the same thing that's boring some people do things over insanity ocho is doing something over and over and hoping for a different result i did the same thing over and over hoping for the same result to be successful every time i stepped on the damn field yeah yeah there's a sacrifice to be great the greater the accomplishment the greater the sacrifice must be to meet said accomplishment there is no other way

[Uncle Joe]

around ain't bro you can't cut no

[Joe]

corners what do you want what do you want to be man i want to be this okay what are you willing to sacrifice to get that if you're going to put what you want here you got to put what you're willing to sacrifice here because they go hand in hand yeah the greater the accomplishment the greater the sacrifice it's going to cost you some it's probably it might cost you a relationship or two yeah it might cost you a friend or two it will might cost you a family member or two yes sir but what is it that you want because you got to remember now when you was as a kid growing up who was there who believed in you i i talked about this all the time from i was in high school i can go get my my senior book and i can read what they said shannon when you rich and famous don't forget me shannon i know you gonna make it that's all i talked

[Ocho]

about yeah

[Joe]

all the times that i didn't go to the party ah you from your country you boring you don't smoke you don't drink okay you right i don't but i don't know if that's going to help me get into college and when i got to college i don't know if smoking and drinking now don't hey don't get me wrong now hey george clinton why must i chase the cat you know the futuristic you know what i'm saying hey i did what i did but homework practice working out studying i had to get it i had to get it hey the teacher give me two weeks to get get an assignment in or i'm getting that thing done about three four days i ain't waiting till the last minute i was not no last minute type of guy there ain't no way around it guys i wish i wish i could tell you i wish i i wish i could tell you there's a a a easier way to success and to reach that but there's not there's not and you look at these guys and and you hear stories i've never seen jordan work out i've never seen any of these guys but you hear stories and i guarantee you their story sounds a lot simple a lot like what you went through ocho what i went through joe what you went through it's very similar you don't get to that level it's not an accident my brother tell our people all the time you know what it wasn't planned it wasn't an accident that we both went there but it wasn't planned either yeah but what our grandfather and grandmother instilled in us the work ethic the determination to never quit to never give up man i had all these all these offers to go everywhere a top player in the state of georgia here i am prop forty eight man this ain't for man later for this let me kick it with my boys right here nah hell no somebody going to hey and i'll never forget my coach david said he say son if you good they'll find you they gonna find me in savannah state yeah yeah son if you good son if you he said if you as good as i think you are they're gonna come see you they're gonna come get you that's all i needed that's all i needed

[Ocho]

man listen it's been dudes drafted from d three schools man if you good

[Joe]

langston you went tried to go here tried to go there one year at oregon state that's all i needed you know why because that's why god planned

[Ocho]

it yeah

[Joe]

see what god planned for you aka kicking you out of school being back had to go back to miami going to samo juco all god had all that so you know what i'm gonna send you all through i'm gonna test you he said i'm gonna test you

[Ocho]

hey hey what they say uncle ocho you make plans and god sit there and laugh at you oh

[Joe]

yeah every time yeah he already knew he already knew he already got it but man john you got too much talent bro you got too much talent you too good and what's john twenty

[Ocho]

eight i don't even know if he did is he twenty eight oh i'm

[Joe]

gonna say twenty seven twenty eight i

[Ocho]

don't think he that old he twenty six oh yeah boy hey

[Joe]

joe the sixers big three are back on the block joel embiid twenty nine points six rebounds two blocks pg paul george twenty six points thirteen rebounds four steals tyrese maxey twenty six points eight assists seven rebounds joe if joel embiid tyrese maxey paul george pg thirteen if they are healthy can they make some noise in

[Ocho]

the east yeah yeah they can uncle ocho look look if paul george and joel embiid gonna give you this on a night to night basis cause this ain't the first game they didn't play well since they done been back i think this they second game playing but they both putting up great numbers shooting at a high efficiency rate and they controlling and affecting the game on more than just scoring i think you know their veteran presence mixed in with with maxi and edgecombe them young reckless abandoned guards man they could beat anybody in the east because can't still can't nobody guard him be if he no hell

[Joe]

no if he got no answer for him not not in the east well first of all ain't nobody in the nba can guard him oh he needs west north south i don't if there's an aba the g league ain't nobody can guard joel and b nobody he

[Ocho]

don't even have to be one hundred percent i think philadelphia because they beat a hot hornets team tonight in charlotte it ain't like charlotte ain't been no slouch for since february probably since ear first the first of february yeah they probably got one of the top records in the nba like they've been playing great basketball so to go in charlotte and get a win it tells me a lot if embiid and paul george can fit in with these guys like this hey man we we just got a new team that's that's entered the chat because they you know we didn't counted philly out for so long and since tatum came back for the celtics we we put them one you know cade been hurt so we kind of dropped the pistons but hey this looks scary man cause i'm gonna tell y' all something tyrese maxey still ain't letting his foot off the gas he don't care who out there he don't care who out there he go get hey he gonna get his shots up he gonna be effective he gonna apply pressure they got a great team on if them dudes stay healthy i'm talking about they they got a chance they got a chance

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