Nightcap Hour 2: Jalen Williams RETURNING For Thunder + Naz Ried WEIGHS IN on Timberwolves NEEDS + Mallard Creek Track & Field DISQUALIFIED

Summary

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Nightcap Hour 2: Jalen Williams RETURNING For Thunder + Naz Reid WEIGHS IN on Timberwolves NEEDS + Mallard Creek Track & Field DISQUALIFIED

Podcast: Nightcap
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson (Ocho), Joe Johnson
Date: May 18, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this energetic and unfiltered sports talk hour, Shannon Sharpe, Ochocinco, and Joe Johnson dig into the evening’s hottest NBA and track headlines. The panel debates Jalen Williams’ expected impact for the Thunder, takes a deep dive into the Timberwolves’ chemistry woes as highlighted by Nas Reid’s viral comments, and weighs in on the controversial disqualification of Mallard Creek’s boys track team for taunting. Throughout the episode, they riff on player mentality, locker-room dynamics, sports celebrations, and the growing talent pool in youth track. The hosts keep it playful, competitive, and honest—true to the “Nightcap” vibe.

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Major Discussion Points & Insights

1. Jalen Williams’ Return to the Thunder

[03:33–05:57]

• Sharpe’s Stance: Shannon Sharpe is firmly in favor of starting Jalen Williams for the Thunder’s next playoff game:

  “Yeah, no, I'm starting Jalen Williams. Hey, we ain't got time to be playing no more games here.” (Shannon Sharpe, 03:33)

• Both Sharpe and Johnson stress that while AJ Mitchell's contributions off the bench have been appreciated, Williams’ all-star caliber is crucial against the Spurs.
• The Thunder and Spurs are described as similarly intense, youth-driven teams that thrive off turnovers and pace.
• A core matchup to watch: Victor Wembanyama (“Wimby”) vs. Chet Holmgren and Hardenstein. The crew muses about the big men’s offensive capabilities and previous battles, drawing contrasts with Rudy Gobert’s more limited skill set.

Notable Quote:

“Now you got seven footers that are active. Rudy, unfortunately, Rudy basically a fire hydrant, because offensively he couldn't give you that.”
— Joe Johnson, [05:41]

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2. Spurs vs. Thunder Series Predictions

[06:46–08:22]

• A round of tongue-in-cheek banter ensues as the hosts make their series picks. Sharpe goes with OKC, while a guest or third co-host takes the Spurs, citing “the alien” (Wembanyama) as a difference-maker:

  “There's only one like him. And that's the only reason I'm picking the Spurs. Because of the alien.”
  — Unnamed Guest/Co-host, [08:09]

• The conversation showcases the friendly rivalry and track records of the hosts when making picks, with much teasing about past (and sometimes lucky) successes.

Notable Quote:

“You have to pick a side, homeboy. You can't just be ... I've been picking a side since—pick one now, man!”
— Shannon Sharpe, [07:23]

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3. Timberwolves’ Needs & Nas Reid’s Comments

[09:49–15:56]

• Viral Moment: A clip of Timberwolves’ Nas Reid goes viral as he reflects on what’s holding Minnesota back:

  “I think just following up some of those aspects, I think, you know, I think we have more than enough talent ... but just, you know, being less moody...”
  — Nas Reid (clip), [10:34]

• The hosts dissect Nas’ comment—“less moody and more selfless”—speculating who he’s referring to. Rudy Gobert and Julius Randle are prime suspects.
• Sharpe and crew debate whether this is a locker room chemistry issue and draw parallels to their own show, joking about what would happen if someone said the same in their context.

Notable Quote:

“Those are the things that we can't see ... He's telling us what's going on internally. Yet again, letting the cat out the bag.”
— Unnamed Guest/Co-host, [14:57]

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4. Wolves Roster Breakdown & Offseason Moves

[17:06–25:52]

• Frontcourt issues: Deeper analysis on why Gobert’s skillset isn’t enough to help the Timberwolves break through, especially against more dynamic big men.
• Moving on from Randle: The hosts agree the team needs to explore trading Julius Randle, whose production (13pts, 34% FG in the latest playoff series) disappointed.

  “I think they're going to move on from Julius Randle if they can.”
  — Shannon Sharpe, [27:50]

• Building around Ant, McDaniels, and Reed:

  “You got great pieces in Ant Man, McDaniels ... but if somebody makes me an offer ... I got to do it.”
  — Joe Johnson, [19:08]

• Fervent debate on who stays, who goes, the need for a strong next move (“Your next decision has to be your best decision,” — Guest, [22:38]), and what veteran leadership, like Mike Conley, brings to the table.

Notable Statistics:

• “He [Randle] shot 34% from the floor, Joe, in the series. He averaged 13 points.”
  — Joe Johnson, [25:25-25:49]

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5. Athlete Health, Diet, & Preparation (Men’s Health Dream)

[29:44–44:31]

• The conversation turns humorous as the hosts reflect on nutrition, lifestyle, and what it takes to perform at an elite level for years—contrasting youthful bad habits and discipline required today.
• Shannon, Ocho, and Joe banter about possibly landing a Men’s Health cover together, poking fun at each other’s eating habits and fitness goals.

  “I want you to be able to see every cut, every. Every definition.” — Unnamed Guest/Co-host, [40:27]

• Real talk on the importance of diet and off-court work:

  “What a lot of cats don’t realize, especially the young ones coming into the NBA, like, how important it is to really take care of your body.”
  — Shannon Sharpe, [29:53]

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6. Mallard Creek Track & Field Disqualification

[48:12–54:15]

• Sharpe introduces the story: Mallard Creek Boys Track and Field (North Carolina) gets DQ’d for unsportsmanlike conduct after winning a 4x4 relay—costing them the state title. The offense? Raising a hand in celebration after a prior warning about taunting.
• Reactions are incredulous; the hosts criticize “no-fun” rules in track, and compare it to pro sports evolution of celebration rules.

  “All he did was put his hand up, man, and they gave … They disqualified for the Shador.”
  — Unnamed Guest/Co-host, [48:41]

• The hosts reflect on the stifling of athlete personality across sports and the arbitrary nature of some of these rules.

  “Don't these people know that the celebrations are what people really want to see in the games, whether it's football, track, basketball...”
  — Shannon Sharpe, [52:38]

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7. High School & World Track Talk

[54:15–61:52]

• The conversation shifts to jaw-dropping times high schoolers are running now—multiple teens breaking national records, both boys and girls.

  “Dude, 16 years old, dude. Red all condition dudes running 9.92 and 19.8 … in high school.”
  — Joe Johnson, [53:16]

• They marvel at advances in track surfaces and shoe technology, and predict the next big world records on the horizon.
• The group shares a love and respect for watching top-level track meets, noting the unrivaled athleticism and conditioning on display.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Now you got seven footers that are active. Rudy, unfortunately, Rudy basically a fire hydrant, because offensively he couldn’t give you that.”
  — Joe Johnson, [05:41]

• “There's only one like him. And that's the only reason I'm picking the Spurs. Because of the alien.”
  — Guest/Co-host (re: Wembanyama), [08:09]

• “I think just following up some of those aspects…being less moody...”
  — Nas Reid (clip), [10:34]

• “Don't these people know that the celebrations are what people really want to see in the games?”
  — Shannon Sharpe, [52:38]

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Key Timestamps

• Thunder/Spurs preview & Jalen Williams’ return: [03:33–05:57]
• Series predictions & playful debate: [06:46–08:22]
• Viral Nas Reid comments / Wolves chemistry: [09:49–15:56]
• Randle/Gobert/Wolves roster changes: [17:06–27:50]
• Host banter—athlete health, diet, discipline: [29:44–44:31]
• Mallard Creek disqualification & sportsmanship: [48:12–54:15]
• Track talk, high school standouts, future of the sport: [54:15–61:52]

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Summary

This Nightcap episode showcases why Shannon, Ocho, and Joe are such a compelling trio: they blend sharp analysis, heartfelt story-sharing, and infectious locker-room energy. In this hour, they break down playoff strategies, leadership challenges, the evolving definition of a winning team, and celebrate both the past and the promising future of athletic competition—all with a sense of humor and honesty that keeps fans coming back.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, no, I'm starting Jalen Williams. Hey, we ain't got time to be playing no more games here. Hey, hey, A.J. mitchell. Hey, we appreciate. Hey, we appreciate that. And guess what? We gonna need that coming off the bench too.

[Joe Johnson]

Appreciate your.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know what I mean? But. Oh, yes, but we need that All Star. We need Jaylen back in the lineup, bro, playing against these Spurs. Hey, man, they gonna have their hands full, man, they gonna have their hands full against the spurs team.

[Joe Johnson]

Spurs got to make sure they just. The thing is, with them though, man, they just hit you with this wave, man. You can be. They can. You can be up by four. And the next thing you know, the Thunder, bro, you down 10. Just that turn you over. And they turn those turnovers into points quick.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They both play like that though. UNC and Ocho, they got similar styles, you know, it's going to be interesting to see who really takes care of the ball. Meaning limiting turnovers and able to get great shots every time because they both thrive off turning, making you turn the ball over and turning them turnovers into points. Yep, so. And Will Wimby back there, bro. I'm curious to see how dominant he'll be against Hardenstein and Chick. I know him and Chick has had they back and forth over the years.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And I. I think it's going to be a hell of a battle. It's going to be a hell of a.

[Joe Johnson]

You'll have to stay out of five trouble. Joe, he can't get in file trouble like he did against like what you call them because those bigs. See, he didn't have to worry about that big. He didn't have to worry about Rudy because Rudy can't hurt him. Scoring Chet can hurt your scoring.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And. And Hardenstein got a nice little float game to where he got a nice little touch shot. You know, he ain't got to always dunk the ball. I think he a hell of a decision maker. He a lot better decision maker. He's a better decision maker than Rudy is with the ball in his hands, going in the dribble handoffs, getting into the teeth of the defense, spread out for three.

[Joe Johnson]

The, the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The chemistry that Hardenstein and check has meaning on that back line to where they throwing lobs and getting each other. That's going to come into play this whole entire season.

[Joe Johnson]

And both of those guys are more active than Rudy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, so that's.

[Joe Johnson]

That's the problem that you run into when you go out. Now you got seven footers that are active. Rudy, unfortunately, Rudy basically a fire hydrant

[Shannon Sharpe]

because offensively he couldn't give you that.

[Joe Johnson]

Now, Cornet is played really well. I like Cornet. I like Cornet. I like his game. Joe. Look, he go. He gonna hustle. He gonna give you some rebounds, gonna give you some second chance points. Hey, he'll get. Hey, he'll give you a put back. He'll give you a lot. You know, he'll live threat.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Boston missed him, too. Boston needed. Boston need. Boston missed him this year. Okay. I think they kind of took him for granted in the role that he played over the past few years because he was. He was great for them.

[Joe Johnson]

But because you. You gave up him and you gave up Big Al. Okay? You like Quaid.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. And Poisoner.

[Joe Johnson]

You gave up four. He always hurt 16 or better.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. But hey, look, Poisoners always hurt Ocho. But when he came back in them finals.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He won them at least two games in that finals. Yeah.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Hey, I. I can't remember who y' all said. I just want to make sure I take. I take a good mental note of it, though. This Spur Disperse Thunder series. Who y' all got? Now, let me make sure y' all on point.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I got okc, man.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Okay, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who you got? Who you got, Ocho?

[Joe Johnson]

Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who you got?

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Oh, I ain't got nobody in this series.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got. You got to pick somebody, O.J. we can't play like that.

[Joe Johnson]

Go ahead.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Okay. With me. You know what? Huh?

[Joe Johnson]

My ass.

[Shannon Sharpe]

His jank ass. He probably.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Hey, hey, y'. All. Hey, y' all actually Y'.

[Joe Johnson]

All.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Y' all kind of mad I didn't been right. All these. All these. All these months, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, listen, we on Nightcap, man. You have to pick a side, homeboy. You can't just be.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

I did. I've been picking a side since.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, pick one now, man. I got. Okay, See who you got that.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Well, you know what? I don't want to be like y'.

[Joe Johnson]

All.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

So I'm going. But I'm going with the Spurs.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I already knew you gonna go against the Grain.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

I'mma go with the Spurs. Hey, let me tell you something. Y' all been wrong. Y' all been wrong the whole. The whole time. So, I mean. But I know one thing. I know. I know the Nick. I know the nick coming out the East. I know that. I know that. I know that for sure. Now, this game. I mean, this. This series between the spurs and the Goddamn and the Thunder, that's tough.

[Joe Johnson]

That. That.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

That's tough.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It is. I ain't gonna lie. It is. It's gonna be a tough game.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, I'm go. I'm gonna take who y' all didn't take.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

No, no, I'm. I'm taking. Hey, listen, I'm. There's one. There's one common denominator here that separates himself from everybody else. There's only one like him. And that's the only reason I'm picking the Spurs. Because of the alien.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, well, hey, he got some guys who gonna be garden who can slide them puppies. Now, if he shoot over the top of him, they shake his hand, pat him on the back. A good game.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But it's a one page they need to take from. From the Timberwolves. Is you gonna have to be physical as hell with him.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Hey, you do know something, right? Every team I done picked so far from March Madness all the way through the NBA playoffs, everybody has won. You know that, right?

[Joe Johnson]

No, you did not, man. You.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, you did not.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Yes, I did.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now, you didn't.

[Joe Johnson]

Bro, you had more teams to go further than Joe and I, but you did not have the winner.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

What? Listen, the fact that I had more team go further than both of y'.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

That. What did that tell you?

[Joe Johnson]

You picked the mask off.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got lucky, bro.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Okay, so what about the NBA playoffs? I guess this is luck too, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you just pick it. I mean, you. You picking. You know, you just picking with your eyes closed. You ain't.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

No, no, no, no.

[Joe Johnson]

But we see now. But we see now. Guess what? They going to 78 teams. So guess what? Oh, talking about college, going to 78. So we. I'm gonna take it serious next year and beat the brakes off, dog.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Okay. All right, listen. Hey, y' all been taking the NBA, NBA playoff series. You see, I'm still with me.

[Joe Johnson]

I've been pick.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I've been picking with my. I'm gonna be honest. I've been picking with my heart. Ojo. I, I, you know, I've been picking emotionally, and I, I got, I'm taking it out now. I'm taking it out. We down to four teams left. I'm going with who I feel the best team is.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

I got you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

The Wolves getting knocked out by OKC in San Antonio in the last two seasons. Nas Reed would ask about what they need to do to be able to catch those teams. His answers has gone viral. Let's take a listen to what Nas had to say. Oh, Probably Mr. Moody, because you look

[Shannon Sharpe]

at both of those teams, they're playing

[Joe Johnson]

for, you know, one another, they're excited

[Shannon Sharpe]

to be on for another, you know, they're a team where, you know, there's

[Joe Johnson]

something, like I mentioned before, so I

[Shannon Sharpe]

think just following up some of those aspects, I think, you know, I think we have more than enough talent. I think we have more than enough, you know, guys bringing to the table and compete at a high level, but

[Joe Johnson]

just, you know, being less moody.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think that's just the name of the game for us, just being less

[Joe Johnson]

moody and more selfless and just carrying

[Shannon Sharpe]

ourselves with, you know, championship aspirations like we've done before.

[Joe Johnson]

Just have met on top.

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[Joe Johnson]

what does it mean? What do you say moody?

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

I can't hear nothing.

[Joe Johnson]

He said less moody and less selfless. So he want us to Be he want us to be selfless and he wants to be less moody. Now, let's not jump to conclusions because I don't want my knee bad, so I don't want to jump it into it again. But who could he possibly be talking about? Because the only reason that's going viral is y' all know who y' all know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Talk to me.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Yeah, talk. Hey, talk to me.

[Joe Johnson]

Are you talking about Rudy? He's talking about one or two players.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Who is moody. Ant man ain't moody.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Drew Randall. Yeah, I can kind of see that.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Yeah. Ant man ain't moving.

[Joe Johnson]

I know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. I mean, so if I had.

[Joe Johnson]

I can see that somebody said, oh, if the CIA interrogate me and they don't water bore me like ten times. Julius. Julia talking about Julius.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Hey, but see, hey, you know, the thing is, especially when he says things like that, those are the things that we can't see. We can't see when he's moody. You know, he talk about stuff that's internal, that we can't even see. Obviously, when the game of basketball is going on, the camera's pan to you when you're on the court, on the court, obviously you playing the game. So you don't get to see exactly what he's talking about. He's telling us what's going on internally.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Yet again, letting the cat out the bag.

[Joe Johnson]

What the man, as you say, with the wolves getting knocked out, okc, but OKC and San Antonio the last two seasons, what can you do to keep up with those guys? He said those guys play selfless. Those guys play like they're having fun playing for one another. So if I say, man, Shannon, those other podcasts are doing really, really well with the combo. What do you think you guys need to do in order to catch up? Well, I think we could, you know, have fun when we on air. I think we know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Be a little less selfless, selfish. What do you think people are going to deduce from that?

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Yeah, Joe. The problem. What?

[Joe Johnson]

Damn, damn, Damn. Hey. Oh, Joe.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Hey.

[Joe Johnson]

I couldn't think of nothing else to say.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Crazy, yo, you.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Hey, you ain't want to pay my 500, Joe. Yeah, you definitely the problem, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn, that's wild. Look, look. See that what we talking about, pointing the finger. That what we talking about right there.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Hey, hey, Joe. I never point the finger because if I point at you, it's three more point back at me, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but you did just point the finger at me, though.

[Joe Johnson]

It ain't three of us. And you said, yeah, you know, hey, listen, we just.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

You. This is just a hypothetical. This ain't real. See, we don't have problems like they have.

[Joe Johnson]

Hypothetically. It would be jodo if it. We speaking hypothetically, but hypothetically.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hey,

[Joe Johnson]

man, listen, they. Hey, they.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They know he a little throw out. Hey, listen, why y' all playing, though? Minnesota got some. They. They got to make some changes.

[Joe Johnson]

This.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They got to make some changes.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

You know, I'm glad you said that. Now, when we talk about changes, Joe. And what kind of change are we talking?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think, man, listen, you're gonna have to listen to a little bit of everything. Obviously, you know, they got some great pieces over there that I think some teams will want, you know, in exchange for, you know, some pretty good. Some. A pretty good player or two. But they. They. It's something they missing. Obviously, having Rudy at the five, you know, it kind of. It kind of hurts. You playing against, hell, the upper echelon teams, meaning the spurs and OKC Ocho. You can't compete with them.

[Joe Johnson]

No.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

So, so, so, so, so you letting Rudy go just because of two teams you can't compete with?

[Joe Johnson]

Well, how the hell. How am I supposed to advance if I can't. If my guy can't outplay those guys? And I'm not talking about every game, but he gotta win a game.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

But this is. This is the funny thing about it, right? You don't like Rudy because you want to change your personnel based on two teams that you can't compete with. Because Rudy basically a liability on the offensive end and defense. He can't do nothing but goddamn Wimby. Who the hell else can?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, go get.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Go get Giannis. I bet he could. I bet he can make a difference

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

in Minnesota.

[Joe Johnson]

And I think the thing is, look, we know Ant Man's personality. I don't know. And is the only guy, I think, in the NBA that come to work and don't. Ain't never mad people, right? Every time he show up, he.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Kiki.

[Joe Johnson]

Kiya.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Hey, look, whether he leading them in

[Joe Johnson]

scoring or whether he true for everybody, whether he not.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And I.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can appreciate that, bro. You can appreciate that.

[Joe Johnson]

I think for me personally, I think Nas reed, I think McDaniels, I think Ant man and then everybody else, if you were a. I'm open for business. You.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hey, I think.

[Joe Johnson]

But if somebody make me an offer, Joe, and I have to package him to get a player that I really think can help us get over the hump. I gotta do it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I Agree. I agree. I don't think they gonna be able to keep IO. I think he a free agent, too, if he.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, he gonna be gone.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I think you do sign and trade some way somehow, to where you can. You can get that missing piece that can help y' all get over the top.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I just. And, and, and if I'm looking at. And if I'm looking at Julius in the series, it makes it real easy, Joe. It makes it real easy to move on. Even. Even prior to this, no one. And like I said, now we're speculating chat. We're speculating Rudy. Rudy is not enough. He can't never be upset. But with that being said, with the way he played, that man gave us three points. Yeah, that man gave us three points. He probably averaged, like, 10 points in this series. Nah, hell no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't even know if he averaged 10.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

You.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I. I think the disheartening thing with Rudy is he was so great in the Denver series playing against Jokic. And hell, you just meet a different animal in Wimby because he ain't. He ain't bound to the floor. Hell, he. He too agile. He too mobile. You know, at his height, there's nothing you can do with him, bro. You got to have good feet just to keep in front of him.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Strike.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, it's. It's. It's just tough. It's just tough because some games you see Randall, he'll give you 26 and 1280 play. And then some games, it's like, bro, damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. What you looking. How many years?

[Joe Johnson]

No, Julius. Julius got one year in the player option. How much is the player option? Oh, he picking that up. He ain't getting that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah. Not unless somebody. Not unless the team tell him they gonna give him a new deal if he opt out.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah. Hey, you be like James Harden. They don't do nothing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, no. But I, I, I, I just think, me personally, guys, I gotta do something. Ocho. To try to catch up. I got to. I got no choice. Those guys are young. Yeah, those guys are young. Look at Wimby. Look at Castle. Look at Harper. Those guys are young. Champagne Vassal, those guys you look at. Hold on. The old guy in OKC is Caruso. All them guys, 27 or younger.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

So what I'm supposed to do is just wait till they get old. We gonna get old before they do? Oh, hell no. I got. I gotta change this up, Joe. You know, I got to. I got no choice.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Fact, you have to. You have to make some new Additions to your squad, bro. And hopefully it makes you a better team because you can't continue to come back. Now, I know. I. I think how many years Rudy got left on his deal? I think he got a big. I think he owned a big deal.

[Joe Johnson]

He can't have no more than like one in a player option.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know if you're gonna be able to move none of them dudes. For real.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Hey, hey, hey, Joe. That's the one thing you can't do, though. You heard what you said.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What's that?

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

You hope. Whatever. Whatever choice you decide to make from this point on, knowing that you have to find a way to hang with the goddamn Thunder and hang with the spurs, you can't hope. Your next decision has to be your best decision. If it's talking about improving and keeping

[Shannon Sharpe]

up with them boys, I agree. I. I think you got. But look, you got great pieces in Ant Man McDaniels. Who else you got?

[Joe Johnson]

Ant Man McDaniel. You got. That's basically it. The old guys that I. That. That I. I like. I gotta have the. Must have. I like Taryn Shannon. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I really do. Yeah, I do, too.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I like the Somo. But you're probably not. Because he's probably played himself into a bigger contract.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. Hey, I got a question. Do you think they bring Mike Conley back?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I mean, look, he ain't gonna cost you no money. I mean, I can bring him back on a vet minimum. Yeah, he great for the locker room. Great leader. Great. Keep everybody. He can knock down some big shots. It ain't gonna cost no money. It might go. He gonna be going into what, year 19. Because.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you know, you gonna.

[Joe Johnson]

Mike came in in 2007, 2008. He came in with KD. So KD came in what? Yeah, 2007. So he came in with KD because he was in the draft with KD and Greg Oden.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Greg Odin. Yeah, they both played Ohio State.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But without. Hey, look, but you ain't gonna have divincenzo the whole year.

[Joe Johnson]

He.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He out the whole year, you know, I think so.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

I.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, I. I ain't gonna lie. I hope they keep IO to some move. I hope they keep him. I like him, I think, you know, because somebody gonna pay him some big money.

[Joe Johnson]

He had. He played his best at the right time in the postseason. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The opportunity came. He flourished in it, too.

[Joe Johnson]

And so that's the thing. I mean, they. Look, they. What did you. What did you. Randall, average in this series? Because I know he shot less than 40%. He had to have. If we shot 40%, it was 40.7.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I got them some way somehow, putting the. Niles Reed and that starting lineup. Come next season, somebody gonna be gone.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, I think you gotta try something, because we. We tried this formula last two years, and the product that we're trying to make it, it didn't sell. Now, it doesn't do us any. It doesn't do us any good that we're in the same conference with teams that are younger than us and they've knocked us out every year. He shot 34 from the floor, Joe, in the series.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

What the average points. Come on, now. 34%. You shooting 34% as a power forward.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And they played a lot through him early in this series, too.

[Joe Johnson]

He averaged 13 points, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn. Yeah, they gonna take. They gonna make some changes, fellas.

[Joe Johnson]

I bet they're gonna start with him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you probably right.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

All things being equal, hell, you know who might be okay for them? He could block, shot and knock down

[Shannon Sharpe]

threes,

[Joe Johnson]

and he ain't gonna be in. He ain't gonna be in Milwaukee. Miles Turner, he. Hey, but Ant man don't do nothing. Cause you gonna put your business in the street.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Nah, we. Yeah, we don't. We.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, man, come on, now.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

We don't need. No.

[Joe Johnson]

That was the accident. He ain't mean to say.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

That ain't no accident. No, he mean.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He mean to say what about y'?

[Joe Johnson]

All. That's not coming.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Don't come over there. Don't. Don't come.

[Joe Johnson]

And being late.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he did.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Yeah. Leave Miles right there.

[Joe Johnson]

But my thing is, I'm trying to figure out, how did they think they would be better off with you than Cat? That's what I need. Somebody to help me understand Joe, because

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think Cat had fell in love so much with that jump shot Uncle Ocho there, he wasn't doing. He. He wasn't giving them, you know, the pro. The productivity that they would like from him.

[Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, at that five spot, you know, or. Or. Well, he was playing the four next to. Next to Rudy. Yeah, he fell in love with that jumper. He said, we got Rudy down there.

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't going in the face. Miles Turner and Rudy on the defensive end with Jaden Daniels, you wing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I can. I can see something. I can see a little something, something. I can see a little something.

[Joe Johnson]

I keep knobs on my bench because I know he gonna give me somewhere between 16 and 18 off the bench.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

I need that. Yeah, I need that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Honestly, Joe Ocho, I would consider it. Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I think.

[Joe Johnson]

I think they're going to move on from Jew. I do. I think they're going to move on from Drew Randall if. If they can.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Hey, hey, listen, listen. As bad as he played this series, whatever move the Wolves make next, their next move got to be their best move. You got to be the best move. And whoever you go to replace Julius Randall has to be that much better. You have to be that much better.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What if you give up Randall Goldberry and Shannon?

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

For who? God damn, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

For Giannis.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, Oh. I think they're gonna want draft campus compensation, too. I think they're gonna want draft compensation, Joe. Now, I tell you who they. Hey, what if they put AD Next to Rudy and Ant?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, you keep hollering this A.D. i just said.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm saying, you like A.D. the man can give you 20 and 10. He can play. He can give you two, three blocks a game. He can stretch the floor, got a nice middle, he can post, he can shoot the three. He is 75 to 80% free throw shooter. I'm just. I'm just. Oh, I'm just trying. I'm just trying to make. I'm trying to play general manager, that's all. Joe.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Hey, hey, Joe. I don't know what kind of GME is because he only gonna give us 20, 30 games a season. That's not gonna help us in the postseason. The best ability is availability who ain't never available.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If we get A.D. if the Timberwolves get A.D. then they got to go visit him at least two, three times a month. We got to go visit him two, three times a month. Make sure he doing what he posed to be. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We may gotta make sure.

[Joe Johnson]

Put that pack Riley on the heart. We gotta keep your body fat.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah. Hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

Weight.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Body fat. We got to check that every. Every Friday. Make it good. Hey, look, man, I don't think that's a. I think more teams should operate like that.

[Joe Johnson]

Meaning.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because it'll hold guys accountable, bro. You won't just be out here pigging out, eating whatever. You know what I mean? You. I think. I think what. What a lot of cats don't realize, especially the young ones coming into the NBA, like, how important it is to really take care of your body. What you eat, what you putting inside your body, bro. It like the things that you do outside of being on the court, that's going to determine how effective you are when you on the court. And I think a lot of young cats think that they can continue to eat these zuzus and wham whams and every damn day and come to the game and think you gonna be him. It ain't.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

It ain't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It don't work like that, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

You realize a lot of young people think the game, that's the only thing the game, but it's so much more to play in the game. The game. Ain't, ain't, Ain't. Ain't one on at the game. It's. It's. It's the lead up. It's Monday, Tuesday, when you're not playing. In the end, we only got. We. We got to be ready on Sunday. You'll win the game on Monday through Friday.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And that's what people don't understand, man. He. No, no, no, no. I need to know. I need to know your preparation. I need to know your study habits. I need to know training. What did you do? Did you get in there? You get your lift in, you get your cold tub, you get your massage, you get your body right, you just don't show up right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Don't, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

Man, just. What he got to do before he get on that ride? What he do, he sort the mail. He just don't go around. He'll just dump all the mail in the box. He'll tell it just like, damn.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

No, he sorted all out. Know the route that he gonna take. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And that's how you got. That's how you. But you. When you young, Joe, when you young and you've had success doing it that way. It takes a special type of person when you've had success doing it one way and says, you know what? I still believe I can be better. Let me try this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Yeah. Hey, a lot goes into, obviously, the team you go to and the damn veteran guys that you have on that team, bro. Guys who can really show you the ropes when they see you doing wrong or they see you. I'm gonna tell you, God called me out at the grocery store when I first got here to Atlanta. He was. He seen the basket I had, like, he's seen all the food I had. He was like, man, how. How the hell you think you're gonna go out and play and compete eating all this. This bull job, you know what I mean? And so you don't really take all that into consideration, bro, until somebody really break it down for you. Hey, man, you got this high performance sports car, and you putting this damn regular gas in it. It's Gonna break down on your partner.

[Joe Johnson]

You right, Joe? Yeah, I was the same way, man. I had all that minute made fruit juice. Hey, the microwave pizza buddies. Hey, man, hey, I'm doing. Hey, I'm doing. I ain't have no pots and pans. Hey, my girl.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I had a.

[Joe Johnson]

My girl cook for me.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Share.

[Joe Johnson]

Rest her soul. She like, boo, you ain't got no pots, no pans, I say, nope, none.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Not one you got. Hey, hey, you ain't got nothing but microwave behind pockets and pieces and that you warming up in the. Man, please. That ain't gonna get it, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

And when I first moved to Denver, I could walk out my apartment and walk to a 7 11, and I'm going to get the paid. Joe, you remember you going up in the south, you get them sandwiches that you pop in the microwave. I go get warm me up one of them sandwiches, get me some chips and a soda. Yeah, right back to the apartment. I'm good for the night.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Hey, I. I want to. I want to chime in so bad, but I can't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can't relate.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

I can't, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Eating them Mickey D. Hey, hey, Joe,

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

I'm talking about, man. I was, man, I don't know. What if it wasn't broke? Don't fix it. I mean, the Bengals, even the Bengals had a nutritionist come in and, you know, she left a letter in. In Malacca, you know, you know, come, let's meet. Let's. Let's meet at a certain time and see what we can do to. To help you out. And I'm. Help me out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Help me do what say you good man, Joe?

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

I'm man, eating McDonald's in the morning, going out there. I'm going four for 160, Joe. Two TDs out there celebrating. Hey, A sauce. And in the end zone.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, cheeseburgers.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

What you finna help me with? And I think the lucky thing for me, Joe, and I know I joke around about my diet and my nutrition. The lucky thing for me is the fact that I was able to eat the way I ate, but I never got hurt. Joe, if it doesn't hurt, I guarantee you, I guarantee you, I would have changed the way I was eating because

[Shannon Sharpe]

I would have loved it.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

That's the reason I got hurt.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You a lucky one, Ocho.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

But you know, hey, Joe, me, I'm like, you know what I was like, man? My cousin, he used to be a bodybuilder, and he's like, man, he's a cuz. I told him what I was Eating. He said, cuz, yeah, you ever thought what you look like if you were to eat, like, don't eat all that stuff all the time?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Like, nah. He's like, see it, cuz? So he was. He lived in San Antonio. I said, you know what, cuz? I'm gonna come out there. I'm gonna come out there, I'm gonna work out. Which I went out there for a week. He used to be a power lifter, so he was. He was. I mean, he could deadlift. He actually. He had the world record for like 10 minutes. He deadlift at 220 pounds. 804 pounds, could squat over 700, bench over 500 at 220. So I went out there, watched how he ate His. His wife cooking. I said, okay, I'm gonna see that, man. I got back home, I started eating chicken breasts. I started eating rice. I started eating veggies. I started eating, like, oatmeal and. And healthy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, you don't know. You don't know how bad you feel until you start feeling better, bro. Until you start really honing in on that diet, eating right. Start shredding that fat and you start

[Joe Johnson]

to see the ripple.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, man, that's what keep you going. When you start. Hey, hey, hey. Once you can look in the mirror and you say, hold on. Last week, I ain't really look like this, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

This.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hold on.

[Joe Johnson]

Every week, that's me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Every week you start to get a little chiseled up.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

That's me. Hey, hey, Joe, wait till y'. All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey.

[Joe Johnson]

All they took was like, well, damn. You know, all you take, whatever, like, well, damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Go back over there. Let me see.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, no. What? I'm shy. Hey, hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It'll make it go a little harder.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

What? Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, man, you start. Hey, I'm talking about, man, me. I mean, I eat right. When I was young, I get some cardio in. I start feathering my low back. Get that Christmas tree I'm starting myself. Start feathering. Oh, yeah.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I easily get down to five.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, nice hard.

[Joe Johnson]

Lord. Lord have mercy.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Hey, Joe. Uncle, I ain't got to that point yet, boy. You hear me? You know, I'm. I'm wait. I'm waiting on the summer. You know, when I. When I pop out this summer, Joe, it's gonna be. Gonna be crazy, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Oh, yeah, boy. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

All right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, man, we had to. We had to get to get on men's health or something. Get to get to get the COVID hey.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Oh, that's a good one.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. You know what, Joe? Now you give me something to shoot for. Joe, you give me a. Now, you know, I, I'm very, I'm very gold driven.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Need something like make you lock in.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Hey, hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me, let me see. Who, hey, who, who's the owner of Men's Health?

[Joe Johnson]

Don't start me to lie.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Come on, man, tell him. Give us a cover, bro. Let's, you know, I mean, show them, show them how to do it.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Okay. A Men's Health magazine is owned by the global media company called Hearst. Hey, Hearst. This is, this is, this is Nightcap, obviously my co. Host, Joe Johnson and. And Shannon Sharp. We would like to, to, to. To be, you know, blessed.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We want to bless the COVID Yeah,

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

we want to bless the COVID You

[Shannon Sharpe]

know, there we go.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

We are hard. Three hard working, you know, older men.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, right. You know, Carbo. Yes, sir.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir. All I need is two weeks, boy. Because I'm, I'm, I'm. I'm already.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, two weeks get me like, get about ten pounds off it, but I'm talking about to cut it up. I probably need about eight. I need about eight to 10 weeks to cut it up. Okay. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hey, tell, tell them set us up, man. We want the, the July to August issue.

[Joe Johnson]

Matter of fact, first of all, they already got the issue. They already got the issue shot all the way to February next year. So you gotta hope for the summer next year.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on. You don't think they, you don't think they can. We can cut the line?

[Joe Johnson]

They squeeze, Joe, I promise you, that's how mag. That's how magazines work. Cause I shot. I'm trying to think,

[Shannon Sharpe]

bro. That'll be hard, boy.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Hey, don't underestimate the power. The big three. Now don't do that, don't do that. Don't. It don't matter who they got. But one thing about we. We grace the COVID What are you talking about? Moving the needle.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Come on, man. Come on, man.

[Joe Johnson]

You know I'm shy. Yeah, hey, yeah, you know, hey, I don't want this type of problems no more, man. I don't want them type of problems. He gonna have

[Shannon Sharpe]

you. Hey, you can play the shy guy. Me and OO got you. You can play the shot.

[Joe Johnson]

Don't play with me.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Hey, hey, who was shy guy in the Five Heartbeats? Was it Duck?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah,

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

I forgot his name.

[Shannon Sharpe]

High pitch singing choir boy. Quiet boy.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to be quiet. But go ahead.

[Joe Johnson]

No, no, no. I, I, I, I. I'm telling you, Ocho, I don't walk around my house naked.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

I got you. But we gonna be on this cover.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, now, you know, I get it, you know.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Hey, hey, hey, Joe. I'm gonna be baby oiled up. Joe,

[Joe Johnson]

You only do all that. You already do all.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Hey, I want you to be able to see every cut, every. Every definition. What?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hey. I'm like, hey, Unc. I'm like, you, boy, you give me something like that to shoot for us?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah. I can lock in right now. Hey, I lock in for two or three days. I'm like, damn, I show. You know what? Them cane. That cane's four piece. Let me go get that. Hey, let me get the extra fries with no coleslaw.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

I like it.

[Joe Johnson]

I said we'll do a special Nightcap magazine.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, okay. You know what?

[Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Come out with our own, huh? Hey, what I'm talking about.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Okay, that. That'll work.

[Joe Johnson]

See, man, I just. Man, I thought every time I try to get out of this try. I just want to live my life. I just want to leave you.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

What you mean? Well, hold on. If you want to live your life, I done told you what you need to start doing.

[Joe Johnson]

What? The man ruined the conversation, man.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

You know what? I ain't even say no. I'm just saying you talk about you want to live your life.

[Joe Johnson]

How does that help Joe and I reach our goals? By doing what you suggest.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

I mean, well, not doing it how it's gonna help you reach your goal.

[Joe Johnson]

Easy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, it give you some extra testosterone or something. O. Joe.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Yes, Joe. Yes, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You go along with any damn thing I say at this point here.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Yeah, Joe, I just. Yeah, I just heard testosterone. Yeah. So whatever you talking about. Yeah,

[Joe Johnson]

no, man, you know what? See, I'd be traveling so much, man, it'd be hard for me to get a workout here, man. I'd be on that road. We having to get up. We be getting in late. Joy have to get up early. I got a podcast. I got a podcast every day. What's the day? Yeah, we got two. I got two. I'm shooting two pods every day till Friday.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, man, just give us a day, bro. Man, oo gonna come to Vegas. We'll come to Vegas and do it.

[Joe Johnson]

We gotta get. We gotta get past these, what you call them? What, the NBA playoffs? So we don't have to do all these days. Do it six, seven days straight.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah. Well, it's kind of. It's Kind of winding down now. We down to four teams, but guess what? You know, the games are Monday, Tuesday,

[Joe Johnson]

Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, all the way to the finals. Absolutely right.

[Joe Johnson]

So unless. Unless somebody. Unless somebody. Sweet.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn. So I don't think it's gonna be no sweets, though, either.

[Joe Johnson]

But I think. I think, you know, we gonna get it. We got. Hey, I tell you what, you know, y' all talk about doing something, if y' all talk about really doing it, I do it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And listen, don't threaten me with no good time. Y' all let me know what's happening.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I'm talking about this thing be looking like onions in onion skin. Hey, y', all, y'.

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[Joe Johnson]

Y' all already know how I can get. I get it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I can get it, get it, but

[Joe Johnson]

get it, get it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

So if y' all serious, they let me know. Y' all serious? We gonna do it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, we serious, man. We serious.

[Joe Johnson]

Ocho, you serious?

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

You know good and well I'm in the gym every morning, huh? Every morning, Ocho.

[Joe Johnson]

But you do realize in order to get the look that you going for, you can't get it. Yeah. McDonald's.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Oh, no, listen, I ain't got no problem, you know, having a nice little. A nice little strict diet just to reach a certain goal.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay? Okay.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Ain't nothing wrong with that, man. Yeah. Three, four meals a day, maybe five small ones.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

You know, rice, pasta, you know, to keep it. Keep that weight on me, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, I'm good.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

You know, I got one thing I do have. I got discipline. Well, depending on what we're doing. Yeah. I had to. Had to throw that out there.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. All right, well, I guess I have to go up there and after the show, I have to work on, like. Okay, Shelly, this is what you need to do.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Mallorcreek Boys track and field was disqualified for an unsportsmanlike conduct after winning a 4x4 relay in the final event that would have given them the North Carolina state championship. Had the results stayed, the Mavericks would have won the team state title. Instead, they remained in second place. Watch this Joe and tell me what you think.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

All he did was put his hand up, man,

[Shannon Sharpe]

and they. And they gave.

[Joe Johnson]

They disqualified for the Shador.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Wow. Hold on. According to the North Carolina Runners.com earlier in that day, Nyan Brown set the 300 meter hurdle state record. He flexed to the photographers beyond the finish line and a celebration that received a warning for taunting from the officials with the hat, with his hand going up prior to the finish line in the 4 by 4. It was the second violation of taunting and led to the disqualification. So even that. So after the Guy won the 300 meters and he was celebrating, they say now if anybody else do this, we're going to disqualify you. So they had given them a warning. It was Ocho, man. Joe Ocho. It was the same guy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Ocho. I. I ain't never ran tracking that, but damn, I can't.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

You.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I seen Hussein Boat when he run.

[Joe Johnson]

He.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He got his, you know, I mean the man put up this.

[Joe Johnson]

That's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Come on, bro.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Hey, hey. It's been like that for a long time too, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Taking the celebrations out to be able

[Joe Johnson]

to do that because I mean disqualified doing that because I put the baton in somebody face.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Yeah, you, you can't, you can't do that, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I can see if the man looked to the man, to the man he racing against and did a bye bye or something to him. But I did that. Come on.

[Joe Johnson]

I did, I did. I did what you said, Ocho. And the guy had to leave. I went and got me at like a 15 yard lead on me. I went and got him and got him up, put the baton in his face and I told you I'm the baddest sharp and took off again. And come back. Coach caught up said sucker, you get us disqualified. Don't ever do that again. Damn.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Hey, Joe, you can't show. You can't show no personality. You can't express yourself the way you want to, like you do in basketball. Like you do, you know, you're doing football. None of that. None of that. It's frowned upon in track.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why is that, though?

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Yeah, I don't know. That's a good sportsmanship. My daughter. My daughter.

[Joe Johnson]

Be faster. Keep me from catching you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Listen, I can see unsportsmanlike conduct. Like I just said, if you look at your opponent, you wave at him. But bro, I run. I do like this. I put a hand and I'm in

[Joe Johnson]

front of you, Joe.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Hey, all he did, he did the Shador.

[Joe Johnson]

That's all he did. It wasn't like he. He was like beside him and did that. I'm in front of you.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

He don't even know what I did, right.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Hey, that's crazy. But the rules are the rules.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Are the rules. Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

That the bad that broke the rules all the time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Come on, man.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Well, Joe, I. I ain't follow the rules. See, it's different. It's different now. When I think about the NFL, them rules, them was garbage. I ain't like the rules, so I wasn't following him. Now, track, that's a different ball game.

[Joe Johnson]

He what? Followed the rules. Hold on. They.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They kind of took a little bit of celebration away in football. Didn't.

[Joe Johnson]

No, they let. They let celebrate with your teammate. Because if. When OO was in, you had to celebrate by yourself. If somebody came in, it was called a team celebration, they threw a flag. Now they'll let the team celebrate. You just can't have props or it can't be excessively long, so you can't use problem Like Pac Man Jones was really the first one that I saw due to Fireman's, where he ran to the goal post and slid down. A couple of guys did it. Randy Moss. Randy Moss peed on the goal post. Somebody peed on the pylon. They're gonna find you for that. But as long as like, oh, you don't. You do the throat gesture. You do something like, you know, you can't do the six shooter anymore. Stuff like that. Anything that's sexual in nature can't be doing no gyrations. Not even one man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Don't, don't, don't. Don't these people know that the celebrations are what people really want to see it in the games, whether it's Football, track, basketball, whatever the case may be. It's just like the John Moran situation, obviously, because he, you know, got caught with the guns. He couldn't. He can't do that. You know what I mean? It's like, damn.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Come on, bro.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

No, no in. No individualism, no personality.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's crazy.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Hey boy, you seen some of them time for the hundred and the 200 in Texas.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look here, them boy getting down Texas, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Dude, dude. 16 years old, dude. Red all condition dudes running 9, 9, 2 and 19, 8, 199 and 100.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

That's crazy.

[Joe Johnson]

45s in the folds, man. Back in the hot. When I was in school, you ran a 48, 47. You. Hey, you move looking. It was. I ain't hear nobody. The only person I ever heard running 46 was Antonio McKay. He went. I mean he was on the Olympic team. Yeah, he ran 46 flat. But this was back in like 82, so. Yeah, but he goes on to be on the Olympic team, so obviously he could run. Roger Kingdom is from Georgia. He won a two time Olympic gold medal. 84 and 88. But these kids running 40 folds the kid up in Baltimore, Quincy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Red 44, 10.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

That's crazy.

[Joe Johnson]

You did you see these, the girls? These girl. What they were the women in high school. Girl, 14, running 22, 7. 14.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

You ain't see the 16 year old just ran the 9. 9. I think it was 995. His first name Dylan.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. In high school. Yeah. Did you see the white kid sliding? White kid ran 202. He going, I think Mississippi State. Ocho, you sliding.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, getting up through there.

[Joe Johnson]

200. Texas, got it. Look here, it's hot. You go look at where the climate is like really good for like 80% of the time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Texas, Florida, Florida, California, Georgia. You got sliders. Them kids running. Them kids running 30, running 39 in the four in the. In the four by one kids running 309, 310 in the 4x4.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's crazy kicking D. Yes, damn.

[Joe Johnson]

AKA but we got to get on it because I don't know if y' all saw, but hey, that world, the Botswanans, that 4x4, they got the third because for the longest time up until Paris, what was that? Paris. I think they're in Paris. The Americans had the fast. The Americans had the fastest time. If you take all the Americans out prior to Paris, the time that the. The Americans ran in 68 would still be the world record if the Americans didn't run. So if you Take out all the American time prior to what the Swansons did. That time that they ran back then would be still be the world record. But these bolts wanted. They got second. And then they came back and they got their revenge at the world championships. And what they just ran 254, 47. They got some sliders. They got them bad. And to Bogo and Tobogo, he might be their third best 400 guy. And he can go for. He can go sub 44. Yeah, we got to be on that. We gotta be on our best behavior because they coming. They coming, Joe. Now, the women. I ain't really concerned about the women, because we got that. She. Hey, she better. You know, she. Hey, you know, she got a little. You know, her and her husband say, hey, it's an off year. Let's go ahead and get this out the way. Cause for the next two years, I'm all business. I'm all business. I want this world record. I want this 400 world record that they say, what? Nobody's gonna touch it. And nobody's come close until she did. I mean, nobody's been close. As a matter of fact, no woman had ever gone from that time. Krachalova, the Czechoslovakian, she went 47.99. And then Coke went 47.60. Nobody had ever been under 48 again. And then we go to the world championship, and we get two. We get Sid, go 47.78. We get Paulino, go up, and then we got Nasser. NASA ran like 48, 20. She gonna get that world record. You don't get it. And I wish they would have accommodated the schedule because we've seen people do the 2 4. Michael did the 2 4. Actually, Valerie Briscoe Hooks was the first to do the 2 4. She did it in 84. And then you got Marie Jose Perrette. She did it in 96, the 4 and 2. And she's the only woman to go back to back in the four. So she did a 96 in 2000, but said to do a four four.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

That's crazy. That's crazy. That might be. That might be one of the greatest feats that you'll ever see. I mean, a Cuban did in 76. He won the 4 8. And he did. I think he broke. I think he did the world record in the. In the eight. But man said, take your time. Give birth to that little sprinter. Ah, okay. But we got some sliders, like, girl been sliding down. Mj. I want to see what mj when she open up. See what MJ got cooking. Yeah, but I can, man. I could just watch track all day.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Hey, you saw my. Right beside my side.

[Joe Johnson]

Russell ready at 12:25. She got your A. Right conditions, right people in the track. It's got to be something with the track. It's got to be Ocho. Ain't no way these people running. These God dang old times. I'm talking about these guys, these people opening the seasons, moving. Yeah, I mean, it's got to be. Hey, look, I understand this Mondo and this technology and all this and all. Hey, because we just saw a. A Sawa, the guy from. I think he's from Kenya. They just brought the wind. Go. 150 go sub. 2 hours in the marathon, man, they gotta be. Look, and I understand the shoes because they got these carbon fiber shoes. They got these. Hey, but these, this track, man, these. They booking. They are booking, but I'm here for it, I think. Oh, that's like. They got a track meet out in LA on the 13th. I might have to slide. I saw some of the names. I think Rob Benjamin running, Vernon Norwood. I think Bailey. I got. I got to see who out there. I might. That might be worth going to see. I love track.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Where it's going to be at? Where's gonna be at?

[Joe Johnson]

La.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

La, la. Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, just. I don't know if anybody's ever seen a. A track. My professional track meet. I saw the Olympic trials when they were in Atlanta back in 96. Yeah,

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, listen, I ain't never. I don't. I ain't been to no professional one. But when I was in college, you know, playing the university. Yeah, I. I track team. I'm talking about men and women. They always be.

[Joe Johnson]

Y' all used to have them runners. Oh, y' all used to have distance runners. Y' all be killing people in, in. In the 1500, the 3000, you know, the 10,000. Y' all used to kill people. Like, now y' all got some rollers. Jordan Amity just left. He won back to back. And then you got Watkins just went back to back. And y'.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Was she from. Was she from Arkansas? Yeah, the girl just went 48.96. The second fastest time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah. I can't remember. I can't remember.

[Joe Johnson]

I know exactly it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but I. Hey, look, man, I never experienced nothing like that, bro. It's different. You talking about some athletes, man, they be.

[Joe Johnson]

They be running. But you, if you see the way they run, man, look here to try to do one of their workouts at the speed at which they do it, you might get one or two. Yeah, you're not gonna run, but they run, not them. Time y' all going up there. I'm gonna be back here. Yeah, I'm gonna be. I'll be back here at the back, chilling.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn you.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

You never. You never know or understand how fast people are moving because watching from you

[Joe Johnson]

don't do it justice.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

No, seeing the times is one thing, Joe. It doesn't give you or do you any justice unless you watch the elite athletes at the top of their game run in person.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Absolutely.

[Co-host / Guest (possibly a third host or guest commentator)]

Joe Dog is unbelievable, man. My goodness.

[Joe Johnson]

And you talk about in shape

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