Nightcap Hour 2: Lakers are COOKING with Luka & LeBron + Luka Doncic SHOULD BE in MVP DISCUSSION + Wemby & Spurs END 6 YEAR PLAYOFF DROUGHT + Andre Iguodala says WINNING ISN’T a PRIORITY for NBA PLAYERS + Matt Leinhart says HELL NO to UN-RETIRING his ...

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Nightcap Podcast Hour 2 (March 20, 2026)

Lakers Surging, Luka’s MVP Case, Wemby's First Taste of the Playoffs, and the State of Modern NBA

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This episode zeroes in on the red-hot Los Angeles Lakers, Luka Doncic’s historic performances (and his MVP prospects), the San Antonio Spurs snapping their playoff drought thanks to Victor Wembanyama, NBA culture shifts, and candid jersey retirement debates among legends. With Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, Joe Johnson, and friends, the tone is animated, unfiltered, and packed with player insights and passionate sports talk.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Lakers and Luka: Dominance on Display

[03:00]

• Luka Doncic drops 60 points on the Heat in a dazzling performance (“Luca Dodge put up 60 points tonight. Tied the second most points... [03:00]” - Chad).
• Luka’s stats: 60 points, 7 rebounds, 3 assists (18/30 FG, 9/17 3PT, 15/19 FT) on the second night of a back-to-back.
• LeBron with a triple double: 19 pts, 15 rebounds, 10 assists, tying Hall of Famer Robert Parish for most games played.
• The Lakers are on an 8-game win streak and have reached the #2 seed in the West (“They're 45 and 25...They want to finish strong for home court advantage.” - Joe [05:37]).
• Dismissed Doubters: The crew calls out dismissive narratives (“They try to invalidate what the Lakers are doing. Just say the teams they're beating aren't any good.” - Chad [03:00]), arguing these are real wins against quality opponents.

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2. Chemistry, Defense, and Winning Formula

[04:55 - 10:00]

• Luka’s Aggressiveness & Team Chemistry: Joe highlights Luka’s “getting to his spots” against all defenders, and how LeBron’s facilitation and efficiency are clicking (“He reads the game, super efficient...triple double tonight...the chemistry shows.” - Joe [04:55]).
• Defensive improvements: Lakers forcing stars like KD into mistakes (turnovers) and playing effective zone defense (“They've been doing a lot of zone...not getting caught in that one-on-one look.” - Chad [08:19])
• Marcus Smart’s disruptiveness: Even when not on the stat sheet, his defense and junking up opposing stars have been pivotal (“He junks it up...he's taking the challenge on these dudes.” - Joe [08:44]).
• Weaknesses: Lakers’ free throw struggles, especially from main guys (Luka, LeBron) (“They miss a lot of free throws—main guys gotta do better.” - Chad [09:17]).

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3. Luka’s MVP Argument

[10:02]

• Luka not just in the discussion, but should be a top candidate (“Lucas in the MVP discussion. How could he not be?” - Chad [10:02]), but the media doesn’t seem to fully buy in.
• Luka is currently leading the league in scoring, with multiple 50-point games during the streak.
• Most agree OKC’s Shai (SGA) is the likely winner, but Luka, Wemby, Jokic, and Jalen Brown deserve recognition.

Memorable Quote:

“Luka is in the third seed in the West. You say the west is the tougher conference. He's leading the league in scoring…he’s probably averaging 40 over this eight-game win streak.”
— Chad [10:13]

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4. Modern NBA, Game Pace, and Awards Eligibility

[11:09 - 14:57]

• Injury impacts on awards & contracts: Injury to Detroit’s star (collapsed lung) likely ends his All-NBA/MVP hopes—costing a potential $100M (“That grace is $100 million extra.” - Chad [11:51]).
• Games Played Requirement: The new CBA rules force stars to play more games for awards/contract bonuses—intended to deter load management (“Adam Silver say, man, y’all taking too many games off.” - Chad [12:30]).
• High Pace, High Skills Era: Modern game is faster and more taxing, contributing to more injuries—players need to run several miles per game; yet, overall skill level, especially among big men, is much higher (“Guys can shoot it now…the game has evolved” - Chad/Joe [14:40]).

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5. Victor Wembanyama & Spurs End Playoff Drought

[15:01 & 46:22]

• Wemby’s Game-Winner: Sinks a fadeaway over Andre Iguodala to seal a playoff berth for the Spurs, ending a 6-year drought (“Wemby buried a 17-foot fadeaway over Iguodala...his first go-ahead make in the final five seconds.” - Chad [46:22]).
• Wemby stats: 34 points, 12 rebounds, perfect from the line.
• Discussion of the Spurs’ historic luck with big men (Robinson, Duncan, Wemby).
• Concerns about Wemby missing too many games to qualify for awards, but if healthy, he’s a favorite for Defensive Player of the Year ([15:31 - 16:28]).

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6. Andre Iguodala’s Comments: “Winning Isn’t a Priority” in Today’s NBA

[48:28]

• Iguodala claims players are more focused on stats and contracts than winning, with agents pushing numbers over rings (“It’s a little truth in it…” - Joe [48:57]).
• Modern NBA’s open floor makes scoring easier and incentivizes getting buckets for bigger paydays.
• Stars are more business-focused now, growing personal brands off-court as much as on-court.

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7. Candid Jersey Retirement Debate

[52:24]

• USC’s Matt Leinart refuses to unretire his jersey for any prospect (“Absolutely effing not...Not for some random dude who could transfer next year.”).
• Ochocinco, Joe, and Shannon debate their own perspectives: Joe enjoys seeing his college number worn, Ocho would consider it a sign of respect for the right player, while Shannon is adamant—nobody is wearing “number two” at Savannah State (“Make your own number famous…” - Shannon [56:23]).

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8. Cultural & Generational Differences—On and Off Court

[29:00+]

• Tales of football and basketball team plane rides, locker room antics, the difference between football and NBA player experiences after games.
• Reflections on hard-hitting youth football, nostalgia for playing tough (and wild) in the old days, and the evolution of toughness and culture.
• Playful banter about FIFA skills and gaming toward the end (“Send me your gamer tag, homie.” - Joe [84:34]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Luka’s play style:
  “How does Luka cook the way he cook, but it seems so slow?...He knows how to manipulate the game, defenders—use his body and get into his spots.”
  — Co-host [41:01]

• Why Luka’s MVP case can be overlooked:
  “JJ Redick: Or why Luka isn’t talked about more in MVP discussion—because he complains to refs? That makes absolutely no sense, but I understand.”
  — Chad [38:19]

• The business of the NBA:
  “You got guys who will never contribute to winning, but have big numbers and then get paid… So now it’s like, why play the right way to win when you can make more money getting buckets?”
  — (Citing) Andre Iguodala [48:28]

• On jersey pride:
  “There’s a reason why we got number two…I say make your own number famous. Get you a number and retire your number.”
  — Shannon [56:23]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [03:00] – Breaking down Luka’s 60-point night & Lakers win streak
• [04:55] – Joe Johnson on Luka’s skills and team chemistry
• [10:02] – Luka’s MVP case and media disrespect
• [15:01, 46:22] – Wembanyama, Spurs end playoff drought & game-winner recap
• [48:28] – Andre Iguodala on NBA priorities; modern players and getting paid
• [52:24] – Matt Leinart, Ocho, Joe, Shannon debate jersey unretirement
• [66:13] – Q&A: Defending legends, toughest matchups, and NBA history
• [70:15+] – Favorite childhood sports memories & reflections
• [84:22+] – Trash talk on FIFA gaming skills

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Summary/Takeaways

• The Lakers are peaking at the right time, with LeBron and Luka creating an elite, unselfish attack and silencing doubts with quality wins.
• Luka Doncic’s historic run is not only box score gold but also eye-test genius; his MVP credentials are strong despite not being a media favorite.
• Wemby is already making history, leading the Spurs back to the postseason—in a lineage of legendary bigs.
• NBA incentives and culture have shifted—“winning” is not always the top priority, especially with the current financial/statistical landscape and individual branding.
• Legends fiercely protect their legacy with jersey retirement, sparking spirited debates about legacy and respect.
• The panel’s player insights and stories offer real-world depth on how the game (both NBA/NFL) and its culture have transformed, on and off the court.

Vibe: Unfiltered, knowledgeable, nostalgic, and plenty of playful roasting.
Perfect for: NBA and sports fans wanting player-driven analysis, strong opinions, and behind-the-scenes color.

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Transcript

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[Chad Johnson]

parent Luca Dodge it put up 60 points tonight. Tied the second most points and Luke had scored in the game between behind the 73 that he had against Atlanta matching the 60 point. Remember he had a 60 point. I think he had a 60 point triple double. Wasn't that against the Knicks? He had a 6020 trip dub where he missed on purpose. He reached the 50 point plateau for the second time in his five in his last five games and he did so on the second night of the back to back. LeBron finished with 19 points, 15 rebounds, 10 assists and he tied hall of Famer Robert Paris chief for the most games played. Excuse me, at 16:11. Luca played 38, played 6:38 minutes. He has 60 points on 18 of 30 shooting 9 of 17 from the three point line. He was 15 of 19 from the foul line. So he had 60 points, seven rebounds, three assists. LeBron had 19, 15 and 10. Marcus Smart had 13 points. Austin Reeves had 18 points. And they go on the road and win the eighth consecutive game. Now people are going to try to dismiss them because when they beat the Knicks. Oh that. That was an aberration. Beat the Nuggets. That was an aberration. They beat the Wolves. That was an aberration. They beat the Houston on Monday and Wednesday. The Rockets aren't that good now they beat the Heat. You see what they try to do in order to invalidate what the Lakers are doing. Just say the team that they're beating aren't any good.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

But if they would have beat the Lakers because I remember they say they can't do nothing with the nuggets. Jokic got LeBron's number. They can't beat good teams now. These teams are good teams and they're beating. Well, let's try to undervalue what the Lakers are doing by saying this team's not any good. Guys watching the Lakers tonight, Joe, what did you like about what you saw from Luka?

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, his aggressiveness, you know, just being able to get to his spots. Uncan Ocho whenever he get ready, no matter who's guarding him, it was nothing they can do. Man, you get a guy rolling like that, bro, you shake his hand. Great game. We going on to the next. But I like how, I like, I like how LeBron. I like how LeBron kind of get in there and facilitate, unk like, you know, he, you know, he reads, he kind of reads the game like he ain't taking a whole bunker shots. He been super efficient and you know, obviously he had a triple double tonight. But I think him playing off Luca, he's figured, he, he's kind of figured that out. They figured that out as a team. And you can kind of see because the chemistry kind of shows. It's, it's, it's resulting in the wins. Are they. What state? What, what are they, number three in the west now? They're three.

[Chad Johnson]

They two. I think they got like two. They like two up on, on fourth and two and a half on fifth. They're 45 and 25. So they got 12 games to play.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. And I'm sure they want to finish the season strong to where they can have home court advantage in that first round for sure.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

You know what I mean? So, hey, man, they've been playing great ball. You know, we, we've been wondering if they can keep it up. I mean, they've been pretty consistent as of late.

[Chad Johnson]

They have. LeBron didn't even take a three pointer. He didn't even shoot the three. So he's been and, and 15 rebounds.

[Joe Johnson]

That's huge.

[Chad Johnson]

Four of them on the offensive end. Oo, yeah. Your team, your heat. You like the heat? Yeah.

[Co-host/Friend]

Hey, man, listen, I, I love my heat. I love my heat. I love what, what, what, what, what they did tonight. Bam. Bam had 28. Goddamn. Tyler had 21, Larson had 11. But I'm not sure what Spo was doing. I'm not sure what he was doing, obviously with Luca going off the way. Going off at some point. Hey, I need to meet him. I need to meet him at half court. Joe. Hey, in fact, I need to meet him when they inbound the ball. I wanna. I wanna put that pressure on him all the way down the court.

[Chad Johnson]

I mean, they tried.

[Co-host/Friend]

Hey, man, spo. Letting them boy play one on one damn near all game.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, the problem is with the Lakers. If you double Luca, they know how to play on their backside so well that you got to give up some Ocho. You giving up dunks, lives or wide awards?

[Chad Johnson]

Yes. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And they've been hot. They've been hot as of late.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, because think about it. You got. You gotta. You got one of the best pass. One of the best passers in NBA history. So if you double him, guess he's gonna swing it to LeBron, he's gonna swing it to Austin Reeves and then they go, they gonna catch it. You already compromised because you got a two on one on Luca. Cause you made him give it up. Now somebody's gonna attack the basket. And guess what lobbed LeBron? Lob the L. DA.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Or wide open. A wide open shot. It's just a matter of they knock it down to Marcus Smart or Rui. So they. They put. They put you in a bind. They put you in a bind.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they got a good thing going right now. They got a good thing going. I know they're playing really well.

[Chad Johnson]

And like I said, Look, Da, he only has six points tonight. Only played 29 minutes. He had three or five from the field, from the floor. He had four rebounds. I can live with that. Plus 13.

[Co-host/Friend]

Yeah, you notice. You notice. You notice what nobody been talking about since the. Since the league has been winning these past few games.

[Joe Johnson]

What's that?

[Co-host/Friend]

Nobody mentioned nothing about their defense.

[Chad Johnson]

No, they've been. They've been playing well. They've been doing a great job. The best player, they've been making him give it up. If you notice, they've been for. They forced a lot of turnovers on kd. Cuz KD not proficient at passing out of it. So they turned him over.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Throw it out of bounds. He gave Marcus Smart was taking it from him. They did a great job. So they're doing a great job. They play a lot of. They've been doing a lot of zone Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they have.

[Chad Johnson]

They're not getting caught in that one on one look. And you go look at late in the game, Ocho.

[Co-host/Friend]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Austin Reed gave up about four layups in a row. About four layups in a row.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, listen, Marcus Smart help him though.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

A lot of times what he does, Ocho, it may not show up on the stat sheet. You know, meaning if he making shots, that's a plus. But defensively, the disruptiveness that he brings to the game, you know what I mean? He junks it up. He a great defensive player and he understands his role and he's starring in his role, which is why, another reason why I think they've been playing great basketball late. Cause he's taking the challenge on these dudes who supposed to be like that. The KD's of the world, things of that. So he taking that challenge, bro. He making it tough on him.

[Co-host/Friend]

Yeah, he may he make it real ugly.

[Chad Johnson]

The thing is that what concerns me about the Lakers especially. Cause, you know, playoff games, Joe are close. Joe, they miss a lot of free throws.

[Joe Johnson]

They do, bro.

[Chad Johnson]

They do a lot of free throws. They do when the clock stop. You gotta, you gotta put the ball in the basket when the clock stop.

[Joe Johnson]

And you, you miss a lot of free throws from your main guys. Yes, Luca LeBron, like they, they ar.

[Chad Johnson]

Ar was shooting 80, was shooting 87. He goes six or 10. So that means between, between the two of them, they missed 11 free throws. They missed 10 of them.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they get the bulk of the shots. They, they, they got the ball in their hands at all times. They got to do better. Both of them got to do better.

[Chad Johnson]

They do. But I. Look, I know people don't want to talk about it, but Lucas, Lucas in the MVP discussion. How could he not be in the MVP discussion?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, he's in the third seed in the West.

[Chad Johnson]

You say the west is the tougher conference. He's leading the league in scoring. In the last five games he has two 50 point games and he had another 40 point game and he had a 30, a high 30 point game. So he's probably averaging probably 40 over, over this eight game winning streak. And he was a rebound short. Remember the other night he was a rebound short of a triple.

[Joe Johnson]

Triple double.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, Chicago, we had 44, 12 and eight. He was two rebounds, I think of a triple double. I'm standing there, I'm getting that.

[Joe Johnson]

Listen, now he ball, he definitely in discussion. He in discussion for sure he's not

[Co-host/Friend]

gonna win, but he's in the discussion.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, yes, but the mere fact they don't even have him in the discussion. Ocho. Oh, I think, I think Shay's gonna win it. And I think deservingly so. Look, I think it's Shay, I think Luca, I think Wemby, I think Jokic and I think jb, Jalen Brown.

[Joe Johnson]

And you see, you see what you call him? He out, man. For the Detroit Pit. Yeah. Collapse long.

[Chad Johnson]

So he's gonna probably. It's gonna probably hurt him because it's expected. That lung has to feel back, has to, you know, re. Inflate.

[Joe Johnson]

And I think he can only miss, like, four more games to be.

[Chad Johnson]

It's over.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Because he's gonna. Guess what?

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[Chad Johnson]

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[Joe Johnson]

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[Chad Johnson]

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[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

And that hurts because guess what? That goes towards the max contract, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Co-host/Friend]

You think. You think for a player like that, they allow that to affect him?

[Joe Johnson]

Well, if you wait, as great as

[Co-host/Friend]

he is, you don't mean they wouldn't give him no grace, understanding that he's a max player.

[Chad Johnson]

That grace is 100 million extra. 100 million?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

That ain't. That ain't an extra incentive of 25, 100,000. That's an extra 100 million.

[Co-host/Friend]

I understand what you mean. I understand what you mean it, but you still understand that. I mean, the team in general, where,

[Chad Johnson]

you know, they're giving out an extra 300 million, it ain't free.

[Co-host/Friend]

You understand the player that you getting

[Chad Johnson]

it is because they say you need to be at all NBA selection two years after you sign the initial deal.

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I got you. I got you.

[Chad Johnson]

And plus, that's going to be what you gonna do with Jalen Durden. He gonna say, well, hell, since y' all gave. Put it in his contract. Put it in mind. You, You. You see the slippery slope that you start. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I got you, man.

[Chad Johnson]

Look, I hate that they did it like this, but Adam Silver say, man, y'. All. Y' all taking too many games off. We playing these Saturday Sunday games, and y' all missing and people paying all this money for these tickets.

[Co-host/Friend]

I'm watch.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I think. I think they knew that these. A lot of these cats, especially the top cats, weren't going to be able to meet the game requirements.

[Co-host/Friend]

So they.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, because.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, because, look, the game is played at such a fast pace. Now, if. I'm telling you, if you one of the top guys, you running three, three and a half miles a game and you doing that every other day. And this is the fastest pace the game has ever been played. Why you think. Why you think all our top guys get hurt?

[Co-host/Friend]

Yeah,

[Joe Johnson]

it's too much on their body, obviously.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. So they playing at a pace like they did in the. Joe, in the 80s, the games were routinely. 140, 150, 153, 161. What. You know, the games was up and down.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

And then they said, well, that's too much. And then they let, they let them, they let them start playing football right?

[Joe Johnson]

Then, hey, hey. Then guys.

[Chad Johnson]

And then they say that's too much.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they just walking the ball up, throwing it in the paint, throwing it in the post, you know.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

In the, in the 90s, I just, the game is just, it's. Guys games have developed and the game is at a high pace right now.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, man. Guys, the game. I remember games, playoff games within 73, 68.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Now you got guys scored 80 points in one game by them damn self. Yeah. And they'll play four quarters, they'd be in overtime and the final score, Chicago 82, Nick 78.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

With overtime. So it's, it's a different era now. I think the thing is these guys are more skilled. They're. I'm not saying the guys that the top guys, but you got more. They got more guys that, that.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Chad Johnson]

You still got the same amount of guys that's up here.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

I think from, from this to here, you got more guys.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Shoot the basketball that can do more things than they could in the past.

[Joe Johnson]

Absolutely, you absolutely right. You're absolutely right.

[Chad Johnson]

Guys can shoot it now.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. The game has evolved. It ain't just if you 6, 9, 6 10, you get under that basket, shoot you a few jump hooks, do the George, Mike and Drill. Nah, we ain't doing that.

[Chad Johnson]

No, you better be able to put that ball. You better be putting. Put that ball on the floor and be able to put it in the basket from 28.

[Joe Johnson]

You hear me? Yeah, you better be able to shoot that thing.

[Chad Johnson]

That's what makes, that's what makes Wimby so phenomenal at seven four and a half, seven five. He can put the ball on the floor.

[Joe Johnson]

We can do more than that.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, he had a game winning shot tonight. We're going to talk about that in a little bit. But he can straight. Hey, he can shoot the three. And we already know what he is defensively. Yeah, the, the thing that concerns me, Joe, will he ever be enough to get enough games in that he'll be able to win these major awards, the defensive player of the year, the MVPs, the all. I mean, how many, how many games has Wimby missed?

[Joe Johnson]

It's gonna be tough, huh?

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, that, that Joe, where them people had to say the Lakers are better off with LeBron. Y' all still out there, y'. All. Yeah, Nate. Lakers still better off without LeBron.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they, they was tripping. They were tripping.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm Just curious. I'm just asking. I'm just, you know, asking for a friend. My friend was asking me to say, man, I ain't got no platform like you, but ask the chat or the Lakers still better off without LeBron.

[Joe Johnson]

No, if they. If they gonna get this LeBron, this.

[Chad Johnson]

Can only miss three more. Well, he missed 15 right now, Joe. He can only miss three more ball games.

[Joe Johnson]

Wimby.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

If they probably ain't got no more than, what, 12, 13 games left.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, they probably got 15 on the high end.

[Joe Johnson]

He gonna. He gonna finish them. Because if he finished, he'll probably win.

[Chad Johnson]

What?

[Joe Johnson]

Defensive Player of the year.

[Chad Johnson]

He should.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure he will. And hell, step.

[Chad Johnson]

Step on Stefan Castle should be right. Or be a team member, too. Yeah, boy. Oh, Marcus Marshall being there.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Like the kid done from the Clippers.

[Joe Johnson]

You like, done defensively?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, defensively, hell, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Cause he's taking the tough assignments, bro. You. I mean, think about it every night. You getting booked, you getting shake, or you guarding Luca. You know, you get. You. You gotta. You gotta deal with Jalen Brown, you gotta deal with Brunson. Yeah, you got K. Cunningham. Yeah, you don't get no break.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, you don't. They gonna have. They gonna have Kason Wallace in there, too, though. He leading the league, and still he gonna. He gonna be in there, too.

[Chad Johnson]

So I'm like, bro, I don't. I. Can. I get a night off.

[Joe Johnson]

Right, Right.

[Chad Johnson]

You get Luca, then you get Shay, you get Castle, you get Brown, you get Brunson, you get Cade. Yeah, well, damn.

[Joe Johnson]

That's your job, bro. Hey, we sick. Hey, you. You. Our little dog ain't sick.

[Co-host/Friend]

Him.

[Chad Johnson]

Get him.

[Joe Johnson]

Get him. Get him.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, when Steph is healthy, you got Stephen.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. You don't get.

[Chad Johnson]

When they come back, you got Dame.

[Joe Johnson]

You don't get no off nights on the way.

[Chad Johnson]

Jamal Murray.

[Co-host/Friend]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You don't get no off nights in the west, partner.

[Co-host/Friend]

You got to put. Put your track shoes on, boy, you

[Joe Johnson]

better bring your lunch pail every day. It's gonna be tough.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, that's not. That's not. That's not an easy assignment to draw. Yeah. Because all those guys are buckets.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

You have an off night, somebody hit your ass for 40. Somebody hit you with 50, somebody hit you for 35. I mean, and you. Hey, you got people out there think, man, he. Man, he can't. No, he can play. Those guys are just really good, Right? Great offense, gonna beat great defense.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, you're absolutely right. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Because there are sometimes that. Hey, Luca was making shots tonight, man. Hey, if I. Mitchell, if I knew guys, I'm looking at sport like, sport.

[Joe Johnson]

What you want me to do?

[Chad Johnson]

You see the man shoot this ball from this man down here in high Leah shooting the damn ball. Get up on it.

[Co-host/Friend]

Where you at?

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, sometimes you got a.

[Joe Johnson]

That's why. Hey, dude, get it going, bro. I'm telling you.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

First off, coming into the game, you need to already know. Okay, look, that's why I say, like, when I played against Cold T, Mac and all them Ocho, I made sure I got my rest that night, bro. Cause I needed all my energy. I'm telling you, if them jokers gonna have 30, 40, I gotta make sure I have about 30, 42. You hear me? Yeah. And I knew. And I knew it was gonna be hard trying to stop him. So. Man, listen, when you know who you playing, so you don't get embarrassed. You better get you some sleep.

[Chad Johnson]

We forgot about Ant man. You got to deal with Ant man, too, you know? Ant man looking to drop 40 on you. Everybody that we mentioned can give you the easiest 40 quick. And you mess around and slip.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Might give you 50, 60.

[Joe Johnson]

There you go. There you go.

[Chad Johnson]

And now y' all dame catch a rhythm. You let Luca catch a rhythm. It's over.

[Co-host/Friend]

It's a rap.

[Joe Johnson]

It's over with.

[Co-host/Friend]

You got good rest before you had to see them boy T. Mac and

[Joe Johnson]

Kobe, then Mom, man, what you gotta have some rest, Ojo. Cause you know they coming in. They. They, they. They mind is. Cause you could tell from the start how aggressive guys be. And they playing in Atlanta. I don't know what it is, but a lot of cats like to play here in Atlanta. You know what I mean? I could tell by the energy, you know, I can feel it. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, y. The same, you know. You got a televised game. Oh, you know people. Hey, man, I got Ocho, man. I got a pick on Ocho.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

You're not gonna go. Guys be looking. If they play good against the big guys, they gonna be. Hey, let your boy get that Pro bowl vote. You see what your boy did last week, right? You know? Oh, you're not gonna get no pro vote off me.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, you help defense in the NBA when we playing. When I'm playing against them. Dude, if I'm guarding them Ocho, my hip defense ain't about nothing. You hear me? I'm locked in on my man. Damn, my bad. I gave up a layup. I just don't want to make the score.

[Chad Johnson]

That ain't my man.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I ain't gonna look up at the end of the game. My man got 44 and I got 15. Nah. Right, right, right, right.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, double bump that. No, double bump. What?

[Joe Johnson]

Right. Cause we in trouble if you can't guard your man. And I got to pay all attention to them.

[Chad Johnson]

We in trouble.

[Joe Johnson]

We in trouble. I need you to be able to guard him. Hell, no.

[Chad Johnson]

They be asking you to do unrealistic stuff. Oh, you want me to block DT by myself? He went without tackle ass. What you think you gonna do to me? I help somebody, but don't give me that Ain't my responsibility.

[Co-host/Friend]

That's funny.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, boy.

[Chad Johnson]

But the Lego looking good. I gotta get to a game. I gotta find out what game they play.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, you ain't. You ain't gonna do nothing.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm good.

[Joe Johnson]

I think it's gonna be over with. They ain't got but 10, 12 games.

[Chad Johnson]

I know. Hey, them playoff tickets. Hey, hey, hey, hey.

[Co-host/Friend]

Hey, Unc, you going to a game, man?

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, I'm about to cut this. Hey, Joe, I'll see you tomorrow, man. Baby, baby. This man about to make me lose all my religion. Hell, no, Man. No. Last week we was out there. Last week. Last week we was out there two days in the Lakers play. I forgot that we had Tuesday off. And then by the time I remembered

[Joe Johnson]

it, they probably was playing.

[Chad Johnson]

But I wasn't even thinking, man. We had been traveling so much, I wasn't even thinking about it. And then I just thought about. I said, george, man, I could have went to the game tonight, But I'm getting. I'm gonna get out there. I'm gonna get out there to a game.

[Co-host/Friend]

Hey, hey. Let me know where you going, huh?

[Chad Johnson]

I will not. I absolutely will not let you know what I'm doing. Hey, me and Joe being Joe, gonna be out of one of them house games.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey. And you know, the playoffs about to get ready to start, too, Unc.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Steady climbing the ladder. So them boys. Hey, hey. Boy, them house gonna be something to see in the playoff. They playing great ball.

[Co-host/Friend]

Yeah, I'll be there with y'.

[Chad Johnson]

All.

[Joe Johnson]

What?

[Co-host/Friend]

I'll be there with y'.

[Chad Johnson]

All.

[Co-host/Friend]

Just. Hey, listen. Hey, tell me when you going.

[Joe Johnson]

I'll be there the next time you see me, partner.

[Chad Johnson]

You better.

[Joe Johnson]

You better put your sets up.

[Chad Johnson]

You hear me? You better put your.

[Joe Johnson]

Next time you see me, you better put your sets up. That's all I'll tell you.

[Co-host/Friend]

Hey, I'm gonna be right Here on the phone. Waiting on you, Joe.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, right here on the phone.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Okay. Yeah,

[Chad Johnson]

yeah,

[Joe Johnson]

yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

What's the Lakers schedule? What's the Lakers schedule?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, he flies. You finna have surgery, man?

[Chad Johnson]

Who you.

[Joe Johnson]

That's all right.

[Chad Johnson]

I go out there with a crutch.

[Joe Johnson]

You ain't gonna let him see you like that.

[Co-host/Friend]

When you going to surgery?

[Chad Johnson]

I'm contemplating. Oh, so you're not going?

[Co-host/Friend]

You're not going no more?

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, I'm trying to postpone this thing, man. I ain't trying to be laid up like that. Hold on.

[Co-host/Friend]

You just said you only had to recover. What?

[Chad Johnson]

How long?

[Co-host/Friend]

Recovery?

[Chad Johnson]

They're on the road to the 27th. I'm gonna go see a guaranteed victory, so I'm gonna go see. When is April. That's in April, right? Actually, no, that's the last game of March.

[Co-host/Friend]

So they play the Cavs. 331.

[Chad Johnson]

And then that's the last game of the regular season. 331, March. Last game of March. Okay.

[Co-host/Friend]

And then their last game of the

[Chad Johnson]

season is against the jazz on April 12th. Okay, I see. I'm gonna see. I gotta make sure, cuz. Boy, I would be pissed if I go out there and spend all that money. LeBron ain't playing. LeBron. Luca ain't playing. Hey, I might have to walk out there on the cold to get a tech.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, that's why you wanted to stay a tight race so they can. So they can continue to play. Hell.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, you see, think about it. LeBron played in a back to back.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Co-host/Friend]

He gonna take a game off, huh?

[Chad Johnson]

Well, this would have been the time, but hey, he's like, hey, I gotta get my body ready. Luca played a little back to back. Think about it. What he did last night, what they did last night in Houston.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Fly from Houston down to Miami, dead dead serious.

[Joe Johnson]

They probably in Miami kicking it right about now. It's got the day off tomorrow.

[Co-host/Friend]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Cause they play. Yeah. Cause they play Orlando on, I think, Saturday.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Brian probably got him. Big boy party tonight. They probably kicking it.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, you right.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. I already know what's going on.

[Chad Johnson]

They don't do that for the football players, Ocho. We get our ass up out of town as soon as they

[Co-host/Friend]

hit the shower. Hey, shower. Get dressed and get on the bus.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

It's too many of y'. All.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, from the time. From the time the game in. Oh, they're about an hour. We pulling up out of there, all that. Hey, hey. We gotta go. Hey, hey, wrap it up. We gotta go.

[Co-host/Friend]

Hey, hey, Joe. Hey, when they hit that horn, you know how you see your family after the game?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. When the bus hit that horn, it's time to go.

[Co-host/Friend]

Time to go.

[Chad Johnson]

Boy, they'll leave you. Have your family bring you to the airport.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn, I miss la.

[Chad Johnson]

Because we first started la, I had Mark Carrier family. He had two sisters and his mom. They would come to the game and they would bring big old pans of fried chicken, collard greens, macaroni and cheese, rolls I like. Well, damn, do I get to eat anything?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, listen, I get ready to eat it.

[Chad Johnson]

I got two wings left.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, listen, they.

[Chad Johnson]

They.

[Joe Johnson]

Y' all know they can't keep y' all around too long, man. At least one or two. One or two of y' all gonna get into something for real. Yeah, they gotta get y' all out of there.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, we it. Testosterone level still through the roof. We still got that adrenaline pumping.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yo, still running out Red Bull.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, but that's why you. I mean, if you think about it, Ocho, most of the time, the fight start. What happened after game? In college, You know, we. We had guys looking to fight. They go to the party to fight. Ain't nobody going to dance. Trying to hide no lady. They looking to set it off, right?

[Joe Johnson]

You go. You go to the. You go to the party. In college, who out there fighting? Them. Them football players.

[Chad Johnson]

Them cute.

[Joe Johnson]

All y' all out there tying it up.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm like, sharp, sharp. Hey, the coach. I ain't security. Why you come get me? Come on, man. Why y' all want to fight, bro? But see, I'll hey back now. Hey, them guys squeeze one off in you Back then, everybody was just knuckling up.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, hey, they ain't playing.

[Co-host/Friend]

I'm always different.

[Chad Johnson]

Ain't nobody taking no ass cut like they used to. Hey, you take an ass cut, you be all lumped up and everything. Hey, but you just keep it moving now.

[Joe Johnson]

Better had that.

[Chad Johnson]

Found one off up in you.

[Joe Johnson]

Better have that fire for sure.

[Chad Johnson]

And then we be fighting amongst each other. Like, dude, we just playing. Y' all in the huddle together, dapping everything up. And now y' all out here tearing up the door. At least it was reasonable during the season, once the season was over. And Friday night and Saturday night, they snatching the phone off the wall. They snatched the TV off the wall, bro. We got the TV in a lock with two locks.

[Joe Johnson]

What's up with all that, man?

[Chad Johnson]

What? Look at him. Joe. I'm talking about Snatch the bri. They had to put the TV in padlocks. Padlocks. Them jokers get drunk. I'm talking about everything. All the phones off the wall, the washing machine turned upside down, the TV smashed off the. I was like, bro, how we gonna wash clothes? How we gonna make any clothes? Y' all keep doing this Ish.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, it was. Hey, Joe, like I said, I hope it's not like that now, but boy, back then I bet you still, you

[Joe Johnson]

still got some of that. You still got something because they put into that level.

[Chad Johnson]

Joe, when I say it was on another level.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, I'm saying I say it was on another level.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. And you know, we had them guys that look I'm talking about, they look for a man shop. I'm out. You know, hey, I'm just gonna. Hey, just go ahead and stay up tonight. Cause I'm gonna get in some hey, hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

See, and that's what you get from a 19, 20, 21, 22 year old

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[Chad Johnson]

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[Chad Johnson]

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[Chad Johnson]

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[Chad Johnson]

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[Chad Johnson]

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[Chad Johnson]

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[Chad Johnson]

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[Joe Johnson]

gonna act like that, bro.

[Chad Johnson]

You didn't have a whole lot of money. Joe Ocho, you know, so them guys don't put their money in. Yeah, they come back there with some Everclear, some. Some golden grain, 190 proof.

[Co-host/Friend]

What's that?

[Joe Johnson]

Well, they can start a car.

[Chad Johnson]

Big old tub. They don't cut. They cutting up oranges. They cutting up apples. They cutting up bananas. Lil McCl Joker just staring out the weather.

[Co-host/Friend]

Hey, hey, hey, Joe. What's that? What's that?

[Chad Johnson]

That's. You put that in your car and it'll go.

[Joe Johnson]

Hello.

[Chad Johnson]

It's 190 proof.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Is alcohol ojo.

[Co-host/Friend]

Oh, okay.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes.

[Co-host/Friend]

Okay, okay.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, my goodness.

[Co-host/Friend]

It must be cheap alcohol, like for you.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, hey, it's cheaper to get the price.

[Chad Johnson]

Ain't nobody drinking.

[Co-host/Friend]

No.

[Chad Johnson]

You know, maybe if you got your work study, you were able to get some Courvoisier or some Hennessy like that. But for the most part, you drunk Black Label, you drunk Schaefers, you drunk them big mouth Mickeys. You had Everclear, you had. You know, you had cheap stuff. Yeah, that'll sit you on your ass. Yeah, but that's why everybody comes. So everybody know they're gonna be drinking. I had everybody wallet. Anybody that had wallets, anybody had chain, gold chains or bracelets? It's all in my room.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, come Sunday.

[Chad Johnson]

So they bring it on Friday. Come Sunday. Hey, Sharp, I. I leave my wallet over here. Yeah, it's up there, bro. Hey, man, Sharp, did I give you my chain? Yeah, it's up there. Because they know I wasn't going nowhere, right? But Joe, I enjoyed the camaraderie. Half. Yeah. Boy, I sure hated when Friday and Saturday came. I ain't gonna even lie.

[Joe Johnson]

The boy act of food in there, did they? Man, I'm telling you, I already know.

[Chad Johnson]

We. You couldn't have no party. You couldn't have no. They. You had to let them in. You couldn't have no party. Okay, this part is for this group.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Them boys shutting it down. They shutting it down.

[Chad Johnson]

They go in the tank. If you got a keg. If somebody got a party and they got kegs, the keg's back in Peacock. They don't took them kegs. They don't took them kicks. And you. We got. Hey, we had a dude. I ain't gonna call it. I ain't gonna put him out there like that. They don't stole a keg, but they didn't have the spout because you know you gotta have the spout.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

This joker went to his car. It's like, what? It's like, this ain't gotta. He got a spot. He got. He done brought a tire iron. So he wanted to bust it. The. The keg? Yeah, he wanted to bust the keg open. I said, man, if we bust the top off, we can get the cans out of it. He thought the keg had cans in it. He didn't realize. They say, fool, if you hit this, this thing is gonna explode. But, hey, we have some guys. We have some characters on there. I don't know how some of them guys. Yeah, I don't know how they got in school. Hey, Joe, if dynamite were brain, they couldn't blow their nose. I have no idea.

[Joe Johnson]

But they can play football, right? Right?

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, you, man. You got that, man. Hey, that. They don't call no coverage. Don't call no r. Hey, run this. Tackle him if you get the ball. Tackling. Those were the days. JJ Redick or why Luka isn't talked about more than MVP discussion because he complains to the refs. I don't know. That's why.

[Joe Johnson]

That's it. They gonna hold that against him?

[Co-host/Friend]

Forget what he's doing on the court. You know, we, you know, we not gonna put him in an MVP conversation simply because he complains of the refs. That makes absolutely no sense, but I understand.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, no, like 30. He averaging like 33 a game.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I. I think. I think he's in the conversation. They obviously, with 10 or 12 games left, if they can continue to keep winning, is he gonna win it? Nah, but I definitely think he in there, man. But I think Shay. Shay has kind of sold it up, if you ask me. So that's probably why they don't really talk about it that much.

[Chad Johnson]

Somebody told you need to invite some of your. You need to invite some of your former teammates. I absolutely will not invite any of my former teammates from college on here. Unless it's funny. Absolutely not. Eight will tell him what they gonna say. Crazy to think, but Luca has more 60 point games than LeBron, KD and Dirk combined.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn. Hey, the boy been playing.

[Chad Johnson]

Shaq has one 60 point game, which is 61. LeBron has a 60 point game. I don't think KD has a 60. Or Dirk.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, the boy can play. Yeah, he can play.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Oh, for sure he can play.

[Joe Johnson]

He's been playing pro since about 12 or 13 years old.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You know what I'm saying?

[Chad Johnson]

After you saw what he did to the Clippers as a young, young player, as a 21, 22. And they had all supposedly. All those defensive stoppers. They had pg, they had Kawhi, they had Pat Bell, and he cooked everybody.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

I said no, he. For real.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that's. That's when he made a believe out of me, too. I was like, damn, they can't do nothing with that boy out there.

[Chad Johnson]

Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, and that would. And that was. PG was at his prime.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes. Yeah. They supposed to have a chance.

[Co-host/Friend]

Hey, we. Hey. Today on the labeling, right, Joe, on my soccer podcast.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

What'd you do?

[Co-host/Friend]

So my guest today, we had Miles McBride that played. Played with the Knicks.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay. Yeah, yeah.

[Co-host/Friend]

I think he hurt right now. So he from Cincinnati. He went to Mola High School. And we had a segment where we talked about comparisons.

[Chad Johnson]

Right?

[Co-host/Friend]

So we were comparing soccer players and who. And we use NBA players as a reference. And obviously Luca name came up, you know, today, and talking, and I say, how does Luca cook? The way he cooked. But it. It seems so slow.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Friend]

From. From the naked eye, from me watching at home, like, he's not explosive like a Russell. Like a Russell Westbrook.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Co-host/Friend]

Like D. Rose in his prime. How does he always. He, like, man, listen, he knows how to manipulate the game. He knows how to manipulate defenders. You know, he knows how to use his body, you know, and. And get into a spot.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Friend]

I mean, the way he explained. He explained it so perfectly where it just made sense. If you never watched Luca play and you hear him explain today on the show. Nah, it was. It was dope.

[Joe Johnson]

It was dope. He's very deceptive, Ocho. You know, he can stop on a dime. He has great breaks and he has great change of direction. You know what I mean? You don't have to be the fastest, the quickest, the most explosive, but if you know how to take angles, you know what I mean? You know how to use your body to keep defenders away. And that's what he does. Like, it's impressive to watch because you're right, he's not the fastest or the quickest, but you can't stop. None of that he got going on, bro.

[Chad Johnson]

No. He gonna get to his spot.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

And the thing is you worry about you. You make him get a ball up, he'll come right back and get it back.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

And then what?

[Joe Johnson]

They so hop.

[Chad Johnson]

Go ahead, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

They so high powered on their weak side though.

[Co-host/Friend]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

As far as shooting the three catching lives, like you can tell those guys know what they gonna do. They very decisive when they catch the ball right there in the middle. Even Jackson Hayes, like they make. They make pretty good decisions right up in that area. And they've been very effective in that. In that area too.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. And you see LeBron getting a lot of dunks from that dunker spot.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

So you know he loved the ball at the nail.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Because now he can wheel and see and it's hard to bring the double.

[Joe Johnson]

You can't double from that spot.

[Chad Johnson]

You can't double him there.

[Co-host/Friend]

Nope.

[Chad Johnson]

And so. But that's gonna be. That's. I gotta.

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[Chad Johnson]

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[Co-host/Friend]

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[Chad Johnson]

How many of you are there?

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[Chad Johnson]

Game the spurs in their six year playoff drought behind Wimby's game winner. Wimby buried as a 17 foot fadeaway over Iguidara with 1.1 second to give San Antonio a 101 to 100 win over the Suns. The sharp mark. Mark the Wimbys first go ahead and make in the final five seconds of the fourth quarter overtime in his career after missing the previous five attempts. Hey,

[Joe Johnson]

we'll be two hot teams too.

[Chad Johnson]

Wimby had 34. He was perfect from the free throw line. 34 and 12 D. Fox had 23. Basel has 12, Champagne had 14. Castle was out tonight.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, but they deep though. It don't even matter. Uncle Ocho that Castle didn't play. They deep. It's two hot teams right now. Phoenix have been playing great basketball, spurs has been playing great. But Wimby like a cheat code out there. Man. What you supposed to do with all that?

[Chad Johnson]

Nothing.

[Joe Johnson]

Nothing.

[Chad Johnson]

Hope he missed. Cause you ain't bothering that shot.

[Joe Johnson]

You just gotta. You gotta tame them guys around them in order to beat them.

[Co-host/Friend]

Gotta. You got what you gotta play. You gotta play five on four, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. I'm saying like you gotta kind of figure, you know, when we gonna get his. But we can't let these other dudes, Fox and Castle and all them go for 25, 27, 30. Cause now we ain't got a chance.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, no, but the spurs are headed to the playoffs. I mean, they get number one overall draft pick, David Robinson, number one overall draft pick Tim Duncan, number one overall draft pick Wemby.

[Joe Johnson]

They keep them a nice big over there on the man.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Every Damn near every 12 years they got another beat.

[Joe Johnson]

Not just any OB. Game changing big.

[Chad Johnson]

Andre Iguodala says winning isn't the priority right now for players in the NBA. You got one third of the league tanking. You got guys who will never contribute to winning, but have big numbers and then get paid. All agents do. Say what your numbers are, then match them to whoever gets paid the highest in that category. So it's like I can average 24, but because it's not hard as it used to be. So now it's like, why play the right way to win when you can make more money getting buckets? Joe, any truth to that?

[Joe Johnson]

It's a little truth in it. I Think, you know, guys are so caught up in their own brands now, Uncle Ocho, that, you know, they, they want their own brands to be successful just as much as, you know, whatever it is they doing on the court, you know what I mean? They want all that to be successful off the court. So you see a lot of guys who kind of, you know, kind of in their own lane, trying to do their own thing. So I think it's some truth to what Iguodala is saying. You know, it is a. I don't wanna say it's easier to score, you know, in this era, but without the paint being so clogged up and the floor being so spaced and open, there's more opportunities, you know what I mean? There's more opportunities. And yeah, he is right. These agents do compare. It's just like in any other sport in football, if you, the franchise, a dude, we going with the, what, top five average salaries.

[Co-host/Friend]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You know what I mean? So, like, if you, if average 25, we're gonna look and see who averaged 25 and what he make. Yeah, that's how it's, it's how it's been.

[Chad Johnson]

What they gonna look at Ocho the Ram Puka agent looking at. Look at what Chase got.

[Co-host/Friend]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Look at my neighbor numbers to Chase. Jsn. Look at my numbers to Chase. I don't know. I don't know what y' all want me to tell you. That's the way it works. Yeah, but I, I get it. Because the thing is, is that, I mean, look, it's so much money. 300. 300 million. I mean, look at the contract. 300 million. Tatum and Brown got 300 million dollar contracts. They're about to be a $400 million guy.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

In the next 10, in the next 10 years, they're gonna be a guy making half a bill.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Because the way the TV deals are and the money, endorsements. Yes. Oh, no question. My, my goodness, I hope it be my daughter.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, you better get there. Get a son, Joe, and get it right.

[Joe Johnson]

I got, I got you. I got a little four year old over here. He look like he's six. My little youngest son, Jet. Yeah, yeah, he four. He look like he's six over here.

[Chad Johnson]

So you. He shooting. He's shooting the rock.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, he do a little bit of everything, man. I keep him right. I got him playing soccer, get his footwork right. You know what I'm talking about, Ocho?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Huh?

[Chad Johnson]

Don't let him play no football, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, I ain't gonna Let him play no football. We might play a little flag or something. You, you know,

[Chad Johnson]

don't let it play. Don't let it play football. It's different. I mean, you gotta, like. You gotta really love it oo like we did. Cause, you know, playing, bro, we had to get that paint. Damn flag. I buy playing flag. I try to play Pop Warner. I'm trying to put the helmets and pads on.

[Co-host/Friend]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. As a little kid, you know, it's funny to me to see them kids out there, six, seven years old, man, hitting each other like that. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, Ocho. But we had them snap on. Hip pants, butt pants.

[Co-host/Friend]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I never forget 1988. Boy,

[Chad Johnson]

we tried. We tried. Hey, boy, we. Hey, we. And all that time, we don't been. We done been playing with our pants for years. Yeah, we tackling in the front yard. We tackling on pavement. Right, please.

[Co-host/Friend]

Playing throw up tackle. Yeah, I remember that.

[Chad Johnson]

Boy, y' all gonna get hurt.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, well, Right, right.

[Chad Johnson]

Touch that football. Bustle up tackle the man with the ball.

[Joe Johnson]

Right, right.

[Co-host/Friend]

Good days there, boy.

[Chad Johnson]

All right, this is gonna be an interesting conversation. Former USC quarterback Matt Leonard revealed he's denied multiple requests to unretire his number 11 jersey for current players and recruits. Leonard said there have been multiple times where people at UFC has, have asked me if I would unretire my jersey for some five star prospect. And do you want to know what I told those guys? Straight up? I said, absolutely effing not. I'm never going to unretire my jersey for some random dude, by the way, that could wear number 11 and then transfer after a year. The only person I'll ever let where USC number 11 would be Cole, who's not there right now. He's at smu. Or my two boys, if they end up going to USC and playing football, that's it.

[Co-host/Friend]

I mean, that's.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, Joe, let me know what you think. Yeah, I mean, you had a jersey retired at Oregon State and somebody said, you know what? Wide receiver comes to you, or the Oregon State came to you. Say, Ocho, we got this five star guy, he wants to wear. I think what you was 85 in college.

[Co-host/Friend]

I was 80. I wore 80.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay, you was 80.

[Co-host/Friend]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

This guy wants to wear number 80, you let them take it down off the wall.

[Co-host/Friend]

Depending on who it is, huh? Depending on what it is. My legacy is already submitted in that jersey. And the fact that someone else is wearing it, I. I would see that as a sign of. A sign of respect. You Know, for one, even wanting to wear it behind me being what I've done in college, I wouldn't have a problem with it. Now, again, it's very important, depending on who it is, that that's. That's what matters most. I. You ain't just being. Be no goddamn slouch and just wearing the jerk just because you want to have it on. Hey, hey, Joe, if you that.

[Joe Johnson]

If you that boy, Right?

[Co-host/Friend]

Timothy, put that thing on, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Chad Johnson]

Yo, University of Arkansas, if you had that number. They put that number up in the rafters and somebody said, we got this five star Joe, and he wanted. You will let him get it?

[Joe Johnson]

It depends. I'm with Ocho because I know some cats. I know some cats from around the way. I'm talking about some youngsters. Like, if that was the case, yeah, I got a guy, I would definitely let him wear it. Yeah, for sure. But I got. Obviously my jersey is not retired, but I do enjoy watching the Razorbacks play. And Billy Richmond Jr. The third, Billy Richmond III, he wears number 24. That's what I wore in college. Okay. You're out there doing his things. I like to see that 24 out there getting money. You know what I'm talking about?

[Chad Johnson]

I ain't gonna lie.

[Joe Johnson]

You ain't.

[Chad Johnson]

The answer is absolutely not. My jersey in Savannah State is retired, number two. I have the only jersey that's retired.

[Co-host/Friend]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

And I've had guys hit me up on social media to my man Ocho. You know what the dude told me?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

He said, you let me make. You let me wear this number. I'm gonna make it more famous than you. You see how you turn your head on, Joe?

[Co-host/Friend]

He said he was gonna make it more famous than you.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Friend]

Hey, that's. That's. That's a good attitude to have, huh? Was he really like that?

[Chad Johnson]

I don't know. Number two ain't coming down. There's a reason why we got number two. I got. Look, I was thinking about, like, what number could I get? And it just so happens by the time I got to Savannah State, yeah, my brother had number two because at first he was number 26, and then he was number 85. I had number three in college. I mean, in high school, he had number three. They retired. They retired both of our. So they retired number three for him and for me, so nobody else could wear it. So when I got to college, I was like, man, what number should I get? I was like, three is good, but there's something about two.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

So I like. I Got number two?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, man.

[Chad Johnson]

When Bill. When Coach Davis say, son, can't nobody else wear this number? Because there ain't no way.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Ain't no way.

[Co-host/Friend]

It just don't look right, huh?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. He say, son. No. Oh. So I'm a three time All American, three time conference player of the year. Three, you know?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Kodak All American. Yeah. I was like, bro, get. I say make your own number famous. Get you a number and make your favor. Make you want to retire your number.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Ah, nah, you ain't getting that number.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, but what if he. What if he been wearing number two his whole career, huh?

[Chad Johnson]

Well, he weighed Elma two until he got to college at Savannah State. Cause he in that one. Ocho. I'm not so sure it would look right. Right. I'm not so sure to look right. Number two is synonymous. Everybody, if you went. If you. Anywhere from the 80s, if you. If you was, like, came back to Savannah State from the time from 86 to 89.

[Co-host/Friend]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

They already know who that number is.

[Co-host/Friend]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Because I had it.

[Chad Johnson]

Because, you know, back then, you know, you had to take. We have no. No custom. No sleeves. So I used to take my arms.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

And in the front, I had it. I had the tape side up so it looked like a question mark.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

I mean, come on, man.

[Co-host/Friend]

I don't know. Some. Some. Listen, you know, like, 85. 85 in Cincinnati, when other players wear it, you know, it. T. Higgins. I liked it. T was like, man, I can't do it. It just. It. It just don't feel right. Yeah, you don't feel right. And they're seeing other people at 85. It just.

[Chad Johnson]

I feel that same way. Oh. When I see people 84, I was like, Bro, come on, bro. You in 84 in Denver. I mean, do y' all know what that number represents? Y' all know who wore that number? I mean, look, me personally, I think it. Look, if. If you go to the hall of Fame, your number should. Your team should retire. I mean, like, there are very few numbers that's retired. Like, Steelers, they don't retire. I think Joe Green's numbers retired.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Ernie Stotner, Terry's. I think Franco's. I think that's. Those are the only ones. I mean, but, like, you got the Bears, you got teams like that. They got so many guys in the damn hall of Fame, they run out of numbers.

[Joe Johnson]

Right, right.

[Chad Johnson]

You know, you got the Bears, you got the packers, you got the Giants, teams that have been in existence for over a hundred years. Yeah, they got, you know, 20, 30 players. Well, that's 20, 30 numbers. You only got 100 numbers, so you only got so many. But, you know, now, Ocho, when I first got to the league, you couldn't have a. Like a. A1 through, you know, 20 number.

[Co-host/Friend]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Unless you. You like Ahmad Rashad. He got drafted as a running back, so that's why he was able to have 22 at wide receiver. So if you got drafted at a position and they move you, you could keep your number.

[Co-host/Friend]

Your number. Okay.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. So that's why, you know, you had, you know, numbers like that. But. Nah, hell no. No, I couldn't get. I could say nah, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn, man.

[Chad Johnson]

No, no, like I said, you're gonna need to be. I'm trying to think. You better be Charles Woodson.

[Joe Johnson]

You gotta be a bad boy because.

[Chad Johnson]

Because Woody was number two. Woody was number two at. Michigan. Yeah, but. But, bro, don't make your own number. I tried to get me a number. Well, obviously in high school, you know, hey, my brother got it. I want that number and two. Nobody had two. Looked around. As a matter of fact, the guy that played opposite of me, he was. He. He wanted three. But Coach Davis had done told me I can take any number that I wanted. Yeah, I want two. It's just something about that two.

[Joe Johnson]

That two hit a little different on the man. Hey, we all wore number two for what, a little significant part of our career, huh?

[Co-host/Friend]

Yeah, I would. I was number two in. In high school. Uncle trying to be like a Dwayne Starks. War two first when he was a quarterback.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Friend]

And Samari Row, you know, Smart roll.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah, I do.

[Co-host/Friend]

And Samari wore number two when he. And then when Samari left and I won number two. Oh, you know, you got. You got my jersey right there too, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, that's the one.

[Co-host/Friend]

Hey, hey, Joe, that's my high school jersey.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, Joe, you want this one?

[Joe Johnson]

That's the one you supposed to been sending me. You supposed to been sending me that a minute ago.

[Chad Johnson]

We'll get that out to you. We gonna get that out to you, Joe. Which one you want? You want the home jersey?

[Joe Johnson]

The red? Yeah. Hey, hey, after that damn stunt, I want both of them. Both of them.

[Chad Johnson]

They're on the way, Joe. Right out to you.

[Co-host/Friend]

Hey, hey, hey. I never did ask you how you got. How you got my high school jersey.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, you need to ask Joe that. Cause Joe about to get him. So you ask Joe how did he get them?

[Co-host/Friend]

Hey, Joe. Hey, hey, hey, Joe. Them Jersey get to you, Joe. Well, I'm gonna be on your ass now, boy. All right. I need my jersey, Joe.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, Joe. Joe, you said that's collateral. Yeah, man, come on.

[Joe Johnson]

I can put them on ebay. I know they'll go for a little something.

[Co-host/Friend]

It ain't signed. It ain't gonna go for nothing.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, it go for a little something.

[Co-host/Friend]

Hey, hey, I ain't. I ain't seen my high school jersey in so long.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, pretend you didn't see it.

[Co-host/Friend]

I done saw. Send me that, though.

[Chad Johnson]

No, I'm not gonna be able to do that. All right, now it's time to play a fade presented by prize picks. All right, we got UK and scu. Malachi Moreno, six rebounds. Yeah, he gonna get that.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Co-host/Friend]

More.

[Chad Johnson]

Evan Mahaffy. Arkansas. Who? This is it, Arkansas.

[Joe Johnson]

I think that's Akron.

[Chad Johnson]

Akron. Yeah. So he get points and rebounds. Sixteen and a half,

[Joe Johnson]

man, we all gonna be on here guessing,

[Chad Johnson]

I think. How did we do yesterday? Did we do good yesterday? I mean, today? Nah. Acuff. I don't think Acuff ain't get us out, get us our points.

[Joe Johnson]

He did.

[Chad Johnson]

No, not the points, but he. But you combine points and assists.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay, y' all don't worry about it. We'll get y' all next time, all right?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, I ain't got no money now. I put all my money over here. I'm gonna go more. I'm gonna go more.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Chad Johnson]

Anthony Del Oso, Arizona guard. Is he gonna make one and a half threes made?

[Joe Johnson]

So he got to make two to win?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Oh, man, he been shooting three. I'm going. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

All right. Oh, okay.

[Chad Johnson]

Darren Peterson point, eight and a half points, rebounds and assists.

[Co-host/Friend]

All together.

[Chad Johnson]

All together.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm gonna say. Yeah. I feel like Dan Peterson, he here to chatter. I feel like he gonna come out and put on the show. I got him. Yeah, I got him going over.

[Co-host/Friend]

I like it too.

[Chad Johnson]

Sure hope he stays ass in the game long enough. If you do that, we got it. So we going over 25 to win 150. Download the app today. Use Coach Shannon to get 50 in lineups after you play your first five dollar lineup prize picks. It's good to be right. All right, it's time for the final segment.

[Joe Johnson]

The evening.

[Chad Johnson]

It's time for Q and A.

[Joe Johnson]

All right.

[Chad Johnson]

It's. Maddie says Ash go ahead and schedule a nightcap show in San Antonio for June. Shaolin Wimby is so final. We're going honking, baby. Oh, I can't forget and still. Hello,

[Co-host/Friend]

child. Please.

[Chad Johnson]

Jordan to go. Ocho Bracket done by Lunch King. ISOs going to Mollywop, Ocho, Easley, Liberty City. Saw them boys from Little Rock don't play.

[Joe Johnson]

Hello. I told y', all, man.

[Co-host/Friend]

Hey, hey. Keep. Keep thinking that now.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, don't worry. We're gonna. We. We gonna show up and show out.

[Chad Johnson]

TS car wash detail service ISO up. Where y' all think Jordan Poole going to end up at next season? Why you think he keep hopping around?

[Joe Johnson]

That's a great question. Cause he went from starting Uncle Ocho to now coming off the bench. And I've seen. I went. I went to the game when they played the Hawks. I think it's probably been a little over a month ago or so now.

[Co-host/Friend]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And the man barely even played, bro.

[Co-host/Friend]

Did he piss somebody off, Joe?

[Joe Johnson]

I just think they. I think they just ready to move on. They gotta be ready. I mean, he was barely playing ojo like, and I know he can play, so I don't know what it is. If he done rubbed in the wrong way or if something he's not doing, I'm not sure.

[Chad Johnson]

But they.

[Joe Johnson]

They ain't giving them no love. They going with the young guys.

[Chad Johnson]

He ain't been the same since he left Golden State.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah. Do you take that structure and stuff for granted, bro?

[Chad Johnson]

You do. Twitch and Ash. Can someone please tell the media and MVP voters to stop hating on Luca and. And stop trying to take away from his greatness. They've robbed him from MVP in previous seasons. Shannon, you need to talk to Stephen A. And Perk and tell those guys to stop trying to take away and downplay Lucas greatness. Every year, the Haper brothers try to downplay how incredible Luca is. Tell them to stop. I think they know how great Luke is.

[Joe Johnson]

He's.

[Chad Johnson]

He's a historical player.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

He's about to lead the league in scoring for a second time. He's only 27 years of age. 26. 26. I think he's 26 years of age. Maybe 27 now. Oh, he's great. He's historically great. Great.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

A guy that can go get you 40, 50. He can get you 20 rebounds. He can get you 15, 20 assists. He's 27. Offensively, he has no weakness.

[Co-host/Friend]

Defense.

[Chad Johnson]

Offensively, he has no weakness. He can shoot the three. He can shoot the mid if he need to. He can get to the rim. Ain't gonna play above the rim, but he could. He gonna get to the rim. He gonna stop bait. You're gonna hit him in the back, and he's Gonna kiss it off the

[Joe Johnson]

glass and am one you can post up. Yeah, he got everything in his repertoire. He can do everything. I agree. He just gotta. He gotta give you a little more effort on defense. And he, he does, he does try. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He tried.

[Chad Johnson]

To lose. Said like if you're here for Lakers and five

[Joe Johnson]

Lakers in five.

[Chad Johnson]

If we get, if we get. If we get the T. Woods, we're gonna get them in four.

[Co-host/Friend]

Oh, oh.

[Chad Johnson]

You feel like 444.

[Joe Johnson]

You feel good about them playing the team?

[Chad Johnson]

I feel great. I feel Tony the Tiger great.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't. I don't feel great. I don't feel great. They playing great basketball, but I'll just.

[Chad Johnson]

We three and all gifts to Timberwolves this year.

[Joe Johnson]

Man, listen, let me tell you something. When I was playing in Brooklyn, Uncle Ocho, we went. We went 31 against the Miami Heat that year when they had LeBron D. Wade and Bosh and we played them boys in the second round of the playoffs, we felt good about it. We thought we actually had a chance to win.

[Co-host/Friend]

They swept you?

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, we won one game. The only. How we won that game, we had to shoot a. A franchise high threes. We made a franchise high three just

[Chad Johnson]

to win a game. TS Car wash detail service. Jokic averaging the triple double. How's the MVP not already his? Because Shea and people think about it, he's a guard. He's averaging 3111 half points a game. He's shooting 50 from the floor. His team has the best record. He's the best player on that team. Unfortunately, guys, he gonna win it again.

[Joe Johnson]

And people are tired of success. They tired of seeing Jokic, he didn't already won. What, two, three. How many? One, three.

[Chad Johnson]

Three.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

And.

[Joe Johnson]

And you get bored with greatness, fellas, you do the man. The man just averaging. He ain't doing number averaging, just a triple double. That's it.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Big, big boy. 29, 12 and 10.

[Co-host/Friend]

That's crazy.

[Joe Johnson]

So hey, hey, you got, you got an argument there now.

[Chad Johnson]

Taco Fall is the missing piece for the Lakers to win all year. You need someone to slow down women to force him to take bad shots. Reach out to Rob and Jenny and make it happen. Thank me later. Taco can't move, man.

[Joe Johnson]

He can't keep up.

[Co-host/Friend]

Taco by seven. Seven.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

They gonna put Taco in them picking rolls, have them swiveling them hip hop. He ain't gonna make. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

This is a day phenom. I'm running up these burner accounts to Get y' all the two meals.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, appreciate it, bro.

[Chad Johnson]

Pedro, Jackson, can you wish my big sister Nicole a happy birthday, please? Thank you. And keep up the good work, y'. All. Absolutely. Nicole, happy birthday. Pedro wanted to wish you a happy birthday. Happy, happy birthday.

[Joe Johnson]

Happy birthday. Happy birthday.

[Chad Johnson]

Actually say this big head, sis, but happy birthday. Hopefully you're doing something fun. Man, I. So who gave you the toughest matchup on defense? Unc Ocho, who's the defender that you said, man, it's gonna be a long day. Who gave me the Iggy 481?

[Joe Johnson]

Who gave me the toughest matchups on defense? I. I'll probably say. I'll probably give it to run our test because Artest was so physical. Uncle Ocho.

[Co-host/Friend]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Not only him being physical, but he had great hands. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know about y', all, but, like, I done played with cats, and, like, defensively, they just have a knack for, like, you know, getting deflections, touching, touching the ball. You know what I mean? That's how run artist was. So it's like when you played against him, you knew not to play with him. Go and give him one.

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[Joe Johnson]

And go and get by. But all that dancing and all that, boy, he gonna be going the other way with that.

[Chad Johnson]

And he built like a D lineman, man. Man, Ron, man, Meadow Hu. Big.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, he huge. Yeah, he can move them feet, too, boy.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. And, hey, he played with his body.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

So that ph. That physical contact, that's what. Right up his alley.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Tough for him to play like that today, though.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, it would. They be calling fouls left and right.

[Chad Johnson]

They would. Albert Lewis was the guy that helped me become the player that I became. He was like 6:2. He was law. He was angular, and. And he gave me a lot of different looks. Sometimes he would freeze me, quick jam me. Other times, he would feather. Sometimes he's sitting right there. Other times he play off. I mean, he just kept you guessing. So you. You worried about what is he gonna give me this time? Is he gonna quit him? Is he gonna feather me? Is he gonna. You know, he's gonna. To press? Is it going to play off? You thinking about all the things that he do all the while. I got to think about what I got to do. I got to get open. At the end of the day, whatever he does, I still got to get open.

[Co-host/Friend]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

So what he does can't have a bearing on what I got to try to do. Get open. Give John a throw,

[Co-host/Friend]

shoot right Me probably out of everybody got to be Reavis. Got to be re that 2009 season. He was so patient. He was so strong as it just seemed that nothing. Nothing was working. You know, from. From a technical standpoint, I was. I was off a lot because I was more thinking and just trying to go. And boy, he get the arm bar and then ride that goddamn hip. He had a Joe. He had elite ball skills.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, ball skills.

[Co-host/Friend]

As soon as you. As soon as you pass maybe 7 yards and them eyes go back, he looking for that ball. As long as he could feel you. As long as he could feel you with that.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Eyes back that he gonna run you to the. He gonna run your ass out of bounds, too. He gonna make the quarterback drop it in the bucket. He ain't f to give you no. He ain't f to give you no room to throw it over the top if he gonna throw a perfect pass. He.

[Co-host/Friend]

He. He was the real deal, bro. He was the real deal.

[Chad Johnson]

It's mad at 22:15. Don't ask us how we got WI number one, how LeBron went to Cleveland or Magic went to LA. The league knows AJ stand in Utah, it was different because the Lakers. The Lakers had the number one overall pick. There was no lottery. Then they changed it because teams were tanking because back to back years, the Houston Rockets, they got Ralph Sampson. And then the next year, they ended up getting Akeem Elijah one.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

But they said it done with that.

[Joe Johnson]

So this.

[Chad Johnson]

They instituted a lottery. And guess what? The Knicks have been downtrodden. And guess who get Patrick Ewing in 1985. Get out the Knicks.

[Joe Johnson]

And people.

[Chad Johnson]

And people been saying it's been suspect ever since.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Junior underscore cool cat Wimby sends my spurs back to the playoffs since 2019. San Antonio, stand up. The Fiesta is back in town. Let's go. Hey. They gotta say, you guys got a chance to be good for a while. You absolutely do. Special I'm about to get out there and see Wemby play when he come to la.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Brandon Crow. Hey, Nightcap. What's the earliest childhood memory? Do you guys have any stories?

[Joe Johnson]

The earliest childhood memory. I just. I remember when I first started playing at the Boys and Girls Club. Thrasher. Boys and Girls Club. Uncle Ocho. I was about seven. About seven. That's about the earliest I can remember playing at the Boys Club. My mama was working at the Boys Club, so I was in there in the gym all day.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm trying to think, what you got, Ocho?

[Co-host/Friend]

Shoot the early. The earliest I can remember. 1988, playing for Miami Lakes Optimus Pythons. Coach Bud, I was a little kid. I was small. I'm not sure. I can't remember how old I was. I'm not really that good at math, but.

[Chad Johnson]

You level to 1288. Yeah.

[Co-host/Friend]

No, I was playing before that.

[Chad Johnson]

Then. I hope so.

[Co-host/Friend]

Hey, about. Hey, I had a little. I had a little hey, Joe. Man, I was, I was so little, man. I had a big old head. Yeah, them little tiny shoulder pads and helmets. I, I never forget, man. I got the, I got the picture. I got the team picture somewhere in, in grandma house, man. I got.

[Chad Johnson]

What's up? What, what position you play?

[Co-host/Friend]

I played nose tackle.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, I know y' all got ran through.

[Co-host/Friend]

Hey, nah. Hey, I was a thumper, boy. I was a thumper back then. I don't know what happened when I got to to the league.

[Chad Johnson]

Ocho, how you gonna play nose guard at 32 pounds?

[Co-host/Friend]

No, I would look, but I played nose guard. I don't know. It's funny.

[Chad Johnson]

Nick Mars says made it to 46. Stay great, guys. Birthday wish. Was hoping oo pay hook and don't tell King I say no more. Live. Nick. Appreciate you, man. Happy birthday, bro. 46.

[Joe Johnson]

Happy birthday, bro.

[Chad Johnson]

46. That was a good old days, man. Y' all know the song, G. Isn't it funny how time slips on away?

[Co-host/Friend]

What you do about that?

[Chad Johnson]

Like the Google dog say I don't want the world to see because they might want to understand Ocho.

[Co-host/Friend]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Taco fall to the Lakers. And that's the move that get the Lakers beat to beat the Spurs. A body of size down low. Wimby think deep. Nah, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

How you go? He can't, he can't guard with me out there on that damn perimeter.

[Chad Johnson]

Taco could only guard me at 58 with two repair bilateral hips.

[Co-host/Friend]

When we gonna call? Taco fall like this to that deep water? Come on out here with your boy now.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, he'd be falling. All right, your majesty. Old fleet. I had 13. Correct. I'm nervous about Duke in Arkansas, though.

[Joe Johnson]

What do you mean?

[Chad Johnson]

He had a 13? You had 12. I had 11. Ocho had 10. So. He said he's worried about Duke. He's worried about somebody beating Duke in Arkansas.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I, I, I can see.

[Chad Johnson]

Dude, I point.

[Joe Johnson]

You need to chill, ojo.

[Co-host/Friend]

All right. My bad.

[Joe Johnson]

Not for real. Don't, don't even. Don't. Don't start that with that bad juju, bro.

[Co-host/Friend]

Bro, it has bad juice.

[Joe Johnson]

That's bad holler. By High Point out there. That's bad juju, bro.

[Co-host/Friend]

I've been telling you. High Point in North Carolina, you know I told you Rob gonna get y' all boys at work now. Don't say I ain't tell you.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on. Come on. We can't be. Come on.

[Chad Johnson]

It's mad at 2215 King ISO Prince. A gesture cap a lot. Best prediction for the next start to join Luca La la land. What's LeBron ties. I got Joker joining MVP Luca.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, we.

[Co-host/Friend]

How the hell are you gonna get out? How the hell you gonna get out to Denver?

[Chad Johnson]

I don't see that happening.

[Joe Johnson]

That's your wishful thinking. Uncle just want the Lakers. He wanted.

[Chad Johnson]

No, he said that. I didn't say that. Oh, that would be nice, but I don't know if we need two slow guys that don't play defense.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they not they. I think the Lakers are taking, but I don't think that Denver ain't get. Boy, Denver ain't get a plea.

[Chad Johnson]

First of all, the one thing we know about the Lakers, they always gonna have a superstar. They always have. You go back, it started with Will and Jerry West. Well, actually west and Elgin Bailey was there, but then they traded for Wilt, and then they traded for Kareem.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

And then they traded for Shaq, and then they had Kobe. It didn't. I mean, that was. That was after the Magic got there in.

[Joe Johnson]

In 80.

[Chad Johnson]

In 79. So. And then you trade for Shaq, and then you got Kobe, and then you get LeBron and now you got Luca. So you've had 40 years, maybe a small period of time.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

In the last 50 years in which you didn't have a superstar. You go back to Minneapolis and they had George Mikin. So the Lakers, I mean, you're in Hollywood. You got to have star. Ain't no way around it. It's not okc. You're not in Utah. You gotta have a star in la. Cause if you don't, they're not coming.

[Joe Johnson]

Right?

[Chad Johnson]

They used to walk in red carpets. They used to living in Malibu. They used to eating on. On patios, on rooftops. They need to be seen. You're not gonna be seen if you suck.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they're gonna keep. They always keep them. A star now.

[Chad Johnson]

Absolutely. I don't know. Hey, thank you. The gifted of Nico. Because it's gonna be. It's gonna be tough sledding once LeBron left, but now they got a guy they can keep for another 10 years. Any advice on YouTube? They help jalen tv frequency. YouTube rewards frequency. But this stuff ain't easy, man. This is work. So if you think you're just gonna set up a microphone and kind of do it when you want to, you're not gonna be successful. You got to put time in it. And how successful do you want it to be? It's. It's a lot of D work. I mean, you see Ocho and I and Joe, we come on here, but you don't see. I mean, Ash and her team is constantly working. You see the graphics team, they constantly putting out clips. They constantly editing. They constantly do it. It is a lot of work.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

To do it. To do it properly and to. To put it out, to do two, three shows a week. I mean, look, you can do one show a week. That's what. That's what club Shea shares. It's, you know, once a week, it's a conversation, and once a week, every Wednesday at noon Eastern, it's coming out. But to do what we do this five days a week doing football season, we're done. You know, we do four days a week right now. Now we're five. Because of March Madness.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

It's a lot of work, bro. And so you got to ask yourself if you want to be great at. You want to be good at it, you got to put time in D, man. What's up, nightcap, fam? Five LeBron's or four KDs. Who's winning?

[Joe Johnson]

What? Five LeBron.

[Chad Johnson]

If you. So you have five LeBrons and five KD. They playing. Five. They playing team basketball. Who winning?

[Joe Johnson]

I'm going LeBron, bro.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm going LeBron. LeBron's a more complete player.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Deshaun Allen. Nine thousand, two hundred and four. What's up, guys? Can you see. Can you see UNC reaching out to Jerry Stackhouse to become the next head coach at unc?

[Joe Johnson]

I don't know. I know. I know. That's. That's my guy, man. Jerry Stackhouse. He with the warriors right now.

[Chad Johnson]

He with the Warriors? Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. I mean, UNC alum.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

One of the UNC greats. Might be possible, because you gotta have somebody who can connect with these young boys.

[Chad Johnson]

Uncle Ocho, I know who they could go get. And somebody that's familiar with unc.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. And somebody who they gonna respect.

[Chad Johnson]

Yep.

[Co-host/Friend]

Tell them. Tell Mike. Come on. Come on down there and coach now.

[Joe Johnson]

Mike who?

[Co-host/Friend]

Shoot his only one.

[Chad Johnson]

Mike, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Mike. Mike over there winning. Winning NASCAR races left and right. He ain't studying, y'. All.

[Co-host/Friend]

Yeah, I'm just Saying, think about that, Mike.

[Chad Johnson]

Too hard.

[Co-host/Friend]

Hey, you.

[Chad Johnson]

You wanna. You wanna.

[Co-host/Friend]

You. You wanna change the program, Have Mike come coach?

[Joe Johnson]

Man, chill.

[Chad Johnson]

Mike ain't got the patience when you that great. You don't got patience.

[Joe Johnson]

You don't.

[Chad Johnson]

The greater you are, the less patience you have.

[Joe Johnson]

Boy, you said something then.

[Chad Johnson]

Because the thing is, Ocho, it comes easy to. I mean, people think it comes easy to you.

[Co-host/Friend]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Because I had a conversation with Magic, and Magic was like, man, sharp. I be. They be doing stuff. I'm like, bro, get that. That. He's like, Magic. That's you. That's you. You expect. You expect people to pick up things and do things like, man, that's so easy.

[Co-host/Friend]

It was easy to you.

[Chad Johnson]

It's easy to you.

[Joe Johnson]

Right, right, right, right.

[Chad Johnson]

Bear game 268. Ocho, y' all should invite Uncle ISO. Y' all should invite Ocho to the next game y' all go to do just to make him pay for court size tickets. I bet he show up then.

[Joe Johnson]

No, I think. I think if me and I'll just go have a good time, send them a couple pictures and videos, that's it.

[Chad Johnson]

That's all we got to do. Get our haircut at the arena.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.

[Chad Johnson]

Cause.

[Joe Johnson]

Cause right now, boy. Hey, you an alternative school. You ain't go to school with us no more. Yeah.

[Co-host/Friend]

While y' all at the game, I'm gonna be right at home playing FIFA.

[Chad Johnson]

Say, with your feet in school suspension.

[Joe Johnson]

With your feet kicked up.

[Co-host/Friend]

Feet kicked up playing FIFA. Either FIFA Battlefield or Call of Duty, one or the other.

[Joe Johnson]

I bet I whoop your ass in FIFA, too. I'm all right in FIFA, man.

[Co-host/Friend]

Come on, Joe. Joe. That's all I do. Joe, don't. Don't do that. Don't. Don't disrespect me like that. No, I know we be on here clowning that, but all that. Now you're getting disrespectful, telling me, hey,

[Joe Johnson]

send me your game attack, homie. Just don't. Don't talk me to death. Send me your game attack.

[Chad Johnson]

Damn, that's the first time I heard somebody say that.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I ain't about to do all this Tone, wrestling with this man. Man, just send me a game attack.

[Co-host/Friend]

Everybody in the world know all I do is play fee for the past 15 years. You not finna beat me at that,

[Chad Johnson]

man, they send the game attack. Why you explaining right? Everybody.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey. Everybody know you the big capital. That's what everybody know, homie.

[Co-host/Friend]

Hey, one thing about it when it

[Chad Johnson]

comes about the one with the shoulder roll with the cane. Hello.

[Co-host/Friend]

Hey. When it comes to competing.

[Joe Johnson]

Hello.

[Co-host/Friend]

When it comes to competing, ain't no cap. You not beating me in FIFA.

[Chad Johnson]

Ocho, the man said, send the game attack. Thank you, thank you. Just prime time. First time. Going to see the Lakers play. And Braun had a triple double and Luca had 60. Crazy. Cause they didn't feel like he had 60 because he was so efficient.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, 18 for 30. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That boy was cooking chicken. He had a cookout and everybody was invited. Yeah. What you want? What you want?

[Chad Johnson]

Got him a 60 piece, man. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. We want to thank each and every one of you joining us for this March Madness edition. Hopefully your bracket isn't busted too bad, but hey, tomorrow's a different day. Is another day we'll see. It's going to be real. Hey, after Sunday, we'll know a lot more about whose bracket is really looking like, like, you know, going to throw that thing in the trash.

[Joe Johnson]

We are. We already know it, but we're gonna keep it to ourselves for right now.

[Chad Johnson]

All right, we do. Y' all know who I am? I'll be favorite up my partner, co host, Liberty City's own, the bingo great, Chad Ochocinko Johnson and the third member of the big three. Joining us, seven time NBA all star from the Atlanta Hawks, ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. And do us a favor, go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Chad, thank you so much. Subscribers, your eyes, ears and word of mouth, it's everything and we cannot thank you enough for each. Again, thank you for your support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shea by La Portier, head over to laportiercognac.com if it's unavailable in a city or state near you. As you can see on your screen, there is a premium VSOP cognac. We have the OG bottle which is 750, but now we have the 375. The Junior. The same great quality, same great taste, the same smoothness. Please, please. Drake responsibly and VC erased a 19 point deficit in the second half to take down the six seated North Carolina Tar Heels in overtime, 82 to 78. Duke survived number 16 Sienna. They rallied from 119 1/2 to win 7165. Texas potentially ended AJ Debonza's college career thanks to a 7971 victory over the number 6 BYU Cougars. The Bonza had 35 points and High Point Studs number 5 seed Wisconsin 83 to 72 as they move on. Darius Acup scored 24 points as Arkansas breezes past Hawaii 97 to 78. That's it. I'm up. He's ocho. That's ISO. We'll see you back tomorrow night. Thanks for joining us guys.

[Joe Johnson]

Peace out.

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