Nightcap Hour 2: Myles Garrett EYES ANOTHER NFL Record + USA are KINGS & QUEENS of HOCKEY + Nina Westbrook shares EMAIL from a JACKASS + ANT MAN says MEMPHIS has NASTY HOTELS

Summary

Nightcap Podcast – Hour 2

Hosts: Shannon Sharpe (“Unc”/“Uncle Neff”) & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson
Date: February 23, 2026
Episode Highlights:

• Myles Garrett’s NFL Record Chase
• USA Men’s and Women’s Hockey Gold
• Nina Westbrook’s Email Harassment Incident
• Anthony Edwards on Memphis Hotels
• Listener Q&A

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Episode Overview

In this vibrant episode of Nightcap, Shannon Sharpe and Chad Johnson deliver lively, unfiltered takes on hot sports topics of the day. They debate Myles Garrett’s quest for NFL sack history, celebrate unprecedented hockey golds for Team USA Men and Women, discuss the dark side of sports betting after Nina Westbrook receives a vile email, and laugh over Anthony Edwards’ comments about “dirty” Memphis hotels. The latter half features authentic stories, listener questions, and the duo’s trademark banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Myles Garrett Eyes NFL Career Sack Record

[02:05 – 04:49]

• Shannon (“Uncle Neff”) breaks down Garrett’s ambition: He wants to shatter the all-time NFL career sacks record (held at 202).
• Current standing:
  • “Where is Myles at? 131? 135? 125.5. He’s 125.5.”—Shannon [02:33]
  • “He’s gonna need 77 sacks... in the next five years.”—Shannon [02:46]
• Ochocinco’s faith:
  • “That’s doable for him... For Myles Garrett that’s doable. Whether they double team him… If he stays healthy... he will break the sack record.” —Chad [03:03]
• Historical context:
  • Only J.J. Watt (two) and Reggie White (21.5 sacks in 12 games, 1987) have approached such numbers in a season.
• Notable Line:
  • “For someone like that, as good as he is at his position... If he sets his mind to something, he gonna reach it.” —Chad [04:36]

2. USA’s Supremacy in Men’s & Women’s Hockey

[04:49 – 10:00]

• Historic achievement:
  • “46 years later, the United States Men’s National Hockey Team has won the gold medal for the first time [since 1980].”—Shannon [04:49]
  • Jack Hughes scores OT winner against Canada; men and women both topple Canada.
• Jubilant banter:
  • “Hey, Canadians: We run hockey! Y’all can keep y’all little maple syrup… we run hockey.” —Shannon [05:20]
  • “Y’all the better team… with the silver medal. Let me be the not-the-better team with the gold medal.” —Shannon [09:19]
• Pop culture callback:
  • “Do you believe in miracles? Yes!” —Referencing Al Michaels’ 1980 legendary call [05:40]
• Light-hearted moments:
  • Teeth jokes (“None of them got their real teeth”) and failed skating ambitions (“Rollerblade? Nothing.”)
• Olympics reflections:
  • USA second only to Norway in overall medals, with future Winter Games in French Alps (2030) and Utah (2034).

3. Nina Westbrook’s Harassment by Gambler

[13:31 – 22:59]

• Incident recap:
  • Nina Westbrook (Russell Westbrook’s wife) shared an email from a disgruntled bettor, calling her a “dumb b” and wishing death on her and Russ for not meeting point expectations.
  • Email highlight: “Can’t even get 10 points is pathetic. I hope you both die in a car crash. Dumby.” [14:02]
• Hosts’ Reaction:
  • “Stop gambling if you can’t afford to lose the money.” —Shannon [13:35]
  • “That’s an addiction… don’t gamble if you can’t stand to lose.” —Chad [14:06]
  • “Gambling ain’t it.” —Chad [21:59]
• On sports betting’s culture shift:
  • “Genie is out of the bottle… billions and billions. Ain’t no turning back now, Ocho.” —Shannon [16:10]
  • “You call somebody… disturb their peace all because you lost. She didn’t tell you to bet on her husband.” —Shannon [17:24]
• Societal commentary:
  • “Y’all feel totally fine to go through some of the… send some bull job like this… But if you saw Russ on the street… I bet you wouldn’t.” —Shannon [18:29]
  • “At the end of the day, he’s still human. I don’t give a damn how much money.” —Shannon [18:01]
• Iconic quote:
  • “Booker T. Washington once said: No man will make me degrade my soul by making me hate him.” —Shannon [21:34]

4. Kevin Durant’s Best Teammate: Russ or Steph?

[23:31 – 28:15]

• Durant names a “tie” between Russell Westbrook and Steph Curry.
• Shannon:
  • “If he says Steph and don’t mention Russ… somebody gonna take. So you can’t win.” [25:32]
• Chad speaks from experience:
  • Would pick Carson Palmer as best QB due to shared success, even over Tom Brady [26:54]

5. Anthony Edwards Rants on Memphis Hotel Cleanliness

[28:15 – 30:03]

• Ant Man quote:
  • “When I go to Memphis, I’ll be like, damn, this sht be dirty. I walked in Memphis hotel one time, it had stains and sht on the bed. Come on, man.” [28:15]
• Shannon on NBA hotel standards:
  • “You have to stay at a four or five-star hotel if it’s available… Maybe he just had one bad experience.” [28:41]
• Tipping debate:
  • Shannon: leaves $30–$40 for housekeeping [30:28]
  • Chad: “You could at least made it a hundred… make somebody’s day!” [30:32]
  • Shannon calls Chad out for not tipping at all: “This man tell me I need to leave a hundred, he leaves zero.” [31:05]
• Barbecue tangent:
  • Discussion drifts to Memphis barbecue, rib preferences, and southern food traditions.

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Notable Quotes & Fun Banter

• On Canadians after hockey gold:
  “Let me be the not-the-better team with the gold medal.” —Shannon [09:19]

• On online gamblers:
  “Keyboard warriors… there’s no consequence for what they say, for their actions. So now they gonna keep doing it.” —Chad [19:38]

• On tipping:
  “I give them $30, $40. … How many people you think in the hotel leave a tip for housekeeping?” —Shannon [30:32]

• On southern remedies:
  “They don’t know about no BC [Powders] and Goody Powders. That’s a Southern thing.” —Shannon [53:09]
  “I only know two things that stand for ‘BC’: birth control and Bethune Cookman.” —Chad [53:19]

• On brisket:
  “I ain’t a brisket guy. Do you like brisket?” —Shannon [35:59]
  “I eat everything, boy.” —Chad [36:01]

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Q&A: Fast Hits & Listener Engagement

[38:21+]

• Debating Skip Bayless:
  “I do miss debating Skip… it was a lot of work, but we had a great time. Who knows?… Eventually, I’m gonna work my way back on network television.” —Shannon [39:37]

• Lamar Jackson’s ranking:
  Lamar listed as #28 QB all-time; discussions on how active players like Mahomes could move up [41:38]

• Super Bowl MVPs:
  Steve McNair’s co-MVP status discussed [43:07]

• Dale Carter stories:
  Both reminisce about legendary CB Dale Carter — “He could have been a lot better... great man-to-man coverage, physical.” —Shannon [44:41]

• Draft preparation:
  Both tell stories about NFL combine and early career training [46:11+]

• Favorite boxing matches:

  • Ward vs. Gatti trilogy [55:12]
  • Tyson-Holyfield I, Riddick Bowe–Holyfield, Mayweather–Zab Judah, etc. [55:32+]

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Memorable Moments & Running Gags

• Gremlins stairlift reference:
  “Remember the movie Gremlins?... the lady on the little wheelchair that go up the side.” —Chad [07:32]
• Rib talk & “pause” jokes:
  Shannon and Chad banter over barbecue rib styles, “dry rub,” and laugh over suggestive phrasing [33:05, 36:03].
• Southern painkillers bit:
  Chad confuses BC Powder for “birth control”; generational and regional disconnects [53:07].

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Timestamps of Important Segments

• Myles Garrett sack record chatter: 02:05 – 04:49
• US Men’s and Women’s Hockey gold: 04:49 – 10:00
• Nina Westbrook’s harassment and sports betting critique: 13:31 – 22:59
• KD’s best teammate — Steph or Russ? 23:31 – 28:15
• Anthony Edwards & Memphis hotels: 28:15 – 30:03
• Tipping and barbecue culture: 30:03 – 37:00
• Q&A begins: 38:21 – end

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Tone & Takeaways

• Lively, authentic banter between two sports personalities with deep insight and humor about the world on and off the field/court.
• Masterful mix of hard-hitting sports topics, personal anecdotes, and cultural observations.
• Candid discussions on athlete well-being vis-à-vis online fans and bettors, blending seriousness with lightheartedness.
• Listeners are treated not just to current events, but also spirited debates, stories from the hosts' playing days, and ongoing inside jokes.

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Transcript

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That's loseweightnow co. After smashing the NFL single season record for sacks mile, Garrett wants to break another. He's aiming to set an all time NFL record for career sacks and even put a timeline on it. Say I'm going to take that down and I prefer to take it down in the next five years. That's definitely on my mind and go out there and get that. That's the goal. I I have for years now, since college, if I'm not mistaken. I think the record is 202. Where is Miles at 131. 135. 1. 125.5. He's 125.5.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right.

[Uncle Neff]

So in other words, he's gonna need 77 sacks. Well, 77 to tie it, 78 to break it. And he said the next five years.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. So he.

[Uncle Neff]

So he's gonna have to. He's gonna average. Have to average about 15 sacks a season. I mean, to be safe. 16. That.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's doable for him.

[Uncle Neff]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

For. For. For Miles Garrett. That's doable. Whether they double team him. No, no, no. No matter what. Obviously if he stays healthy. No, God willing, he will break the sack record.

[Uncle Neff]

It would be a lot easier for him to break it if they could ever play with a lead and he could change the quarterback when his team is up 10, 14, 21 points as opposed to being tied or down every.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Every damn game. And the fact that they always are down or tied and he still was able to get 23 says a lot.

[Uncle Neff]

Now he must ride and go get. He go back and get another 20, he gonna be well on his way.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, can you imagine anybody ever had back to back 20 sack seasons?

[Uncle Neff]

Well, I don't know back, but J.J. watt had. He's the only one that's ever done have two 20 sack seasons. There have been guys that have 20 sack seasons, but nobody has ever had more than one. JJ had 20 and a half. Twice.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That boy is nice, man.

[Uncle Neff]

Reggie. Reggie had 21 and a half sacks in 12 games 1987.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's crazy. Oh, that's. That's crazy.

[Uncle Neff]

I ain't doubting him. I think. I think he get 20 sacks again. I do.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, absolutely. One once. Someone like that, that is as good as he is at his position. You know, he take care of himself, take care of his body.

[Uncle Neff]

Y.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He's a. He's a worker. He's a workaholic. So if he. If he sets his mind to something and he has a. He has a goal that he wants to reach, he gonna reach it. And he's not gonna. He's not gonna allow winning or whether losing to get in the way of that said goal.

[Uncle Neff]

No, nor should he. Ocho, do you believe in miracles? Yes. 46 years later, the United States men's national hockey team has won the gold medal for the first time. They did it in 1980 in Lake Placid. The American Jack Hughes scored a goal in Overtime to seal Team USA 21 victory over Canada. Men and women took down Canada. And over time we own. We run hockey.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I. I saw that. I saw, I saw. I saw y'.

[Uncle Neff]

All. Hey, Canadians. We run hockey. Y' all can keep y' all little maple syrup. Y' all might have started it up there, but we run hockey. This is the first man's hockey gold medal since the Miracle on Ice.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh yeah.

[Uncle Neff]

When Al Michael's famous call. Do you believe in miracles? Yes. As they won the gold medal in 1980. As I said in Lake Placid, Hughes scored the game winning bloody with the loose tooth. He lost his tooth.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Neff]

I wonder why. He was looking like a Jack Atlanta.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I saw that. Hey, you know. You know hockey, that's. That's all.

[Uncle Neff]

Yeah, man. Hey, none of them got their real teeth.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No teeth, no nothing.

[Uncle Neff]

But the men and women, I was, I was like, man, please. Cuz the women been. So the both would been. Have been dominant. And I like, Lord, please let us. I said don't let us be this dominant and lose. Cuz I'm old enough to remember when the. Your. When the. The Americans won in 1980. Obviously it was on home turf, but they beat the. The touted Russians and the semis and I think they had to beat Finland in the championship game. But after the America that the. The Russians with the great goalie Trediac in that. But man, this is. This is crazy. This is crazy. The men and the women.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yep.

[Uncle Neff]

Congratulations.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Congratulations. Hey, can you roll? Can you ice skate?

[Uncle Neff]

No. Roller skate? No kind of skate. Rollerblade? Nothing.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, I think that's something else we should do.

[Uncle Neff]

What?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

We should start doing things that we're not used to doing that we can't do.

[Uncle Neff]

Man, I'm going to get an MRI on Tuesday on my knee. I ain't finna do nothing now.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You don't need that.

[Uncle Neff]

Yes, I do.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Get you. Get you a sleeve.

[Uncle Neff]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And you know that commercial, that Cobatone commercial that Brett Favre and Jerry was in?

[Uncle Neff]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Get one of them. You'll be good.

[Uncle Neff]

I'm about to. What you call them? I'm about to be sleeping. I'm about to get me a house with a main floor master. I'm tired of going up and down the stairs. Huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

To get you an elevator.

[Uncle Neff]

No.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, you remember the movie Gremlins?

[Uncle Neff]

I do remember Gremlins.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, remember the thing the lady was on and like the little whip, the little wheelchair, they go up there, go up the side.

[Uncle Neff]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Get you one of Them. I forgot.

[Uncle Neff]

I wonder what that's called. I know exactly what you're talking about, man. This was crazy. And we finished with the second. We finished with the second most medals in the Olympics behind the Norway. Man, that guy broke Eric Hyde's record. Dude won. Klebo, man, he won like six goals. Olympics. He won everything.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He was nice, huh?

[Uncle Neff]

What?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Damn.

[Uncle Neff]

He got the most. He now he has the most In. In. In. In. In winter. In Winter Olympics history.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

History. That's dope.

[Uncle Neff]

But Team USA men and women.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Congratulations, Pete.

[Uncle Neff]

Men and women. And it ain't no get back until four years. And in four years. Where is that? It's four years. It's. It's in Utah, right? Salt Lake City again. 20, 30. The french alps. Oh, the french alps. What is it in utah? 34. That's okay. We got bragging rights for four years. I don't give a damn.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Well, that's it. I think. I think I. If I'm not mistaken, I saw the comments from somebody for the Canadian team saying they were still the better team.

[Uncle Neff]

If you know you're not. No, you're not.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Did you see the comment?

[Uncle Neff]

Yeah, I did. You're not. Yeah, well, y' all can be the better team. All I know is we got the gold medal. The gold medal is coming home to America. So the better team. We the a. Y' all the better team with the silver medal. Let me be the not the better team with the gold medal.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, it is what it is.

[Uncle Neff]

No metal. Y' all call it what you want to, and I don't care. The Frozen 4. You can have the frozen nations. Nothing. We are the Olympic champs, which means we keep the gold medals where we keep it forever. But y' all can't get y' all get back until 20, 30.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Long time from now.

[Uncle Neff]

And we bragging the whole while letting y' all know. Man, I can make. That thing was crazy, man. The men and women and beat both of them.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, you missed the fights. They were knuckling up too, boy.

[Uncle Neff]

Now, if y' all want to get. Y'.

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[Uncle Neff]

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, I would love that crossover. I would love.

[Uncle Neff]

Oh, y' all can play basketball. Y' all don't want no smoke. Y' all best opportunity to beat us in anything was hockey. But guess what? It didn't happen.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So they got a good soccer team.

[Uncle Neff]

Who?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Canada.

[Uncle Neff]

They can't beat us.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They have a very good soccer team.

[Uncle Neff]

They cannot beat us. Oh, they're women.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, I'm talking about the men.

[Uncle Neff]

Oh, okay, okay. I'm gonna say because they women ain't beating us at nothing. They had, like I said, their best chance was to beat us in hockey. They not beating us in track. They're not beating us in. They damn sure ain't beating our national women's team in basketball. They can forget that, right? Maybe softball. I mean, I think the Canadians got a good team, but. But they're not like the Australian or the Chinese or the Japanese, right? So man, please. Nina Westbrook, the wife of Russell Westbrook,

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[Uncle Neff]

She received from a better who called her a dumb b and wished death on her and her husband. What? Man, listen, stop gambling if you can't afford to lose the money, right? The email reads, you are effing ish. Husband sucks too effing bad. Can't even get 10 points is pathetic. I hope you both die in a car crash. Dumby sent from my iPhone. Really?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey. That, that's, that's an addiction. People, people that gamble to that point where they're upset at, at the person's family and just being mad at the player in general, you know, don't gamble if you can't stand and lose.

[Uncle Neff]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's what it comes down to. I, I, I don't, I don't gamble, unc. So it's hard for me to understand or really wrap my head around someone getting that mad when I don't want to gamble on anything where I'm not in control of the outcome.

[Uncle Neff]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Makes no sense to me at all.

[Uncle Neff]

But, but they need to fight the FA A, FBI, whoever else. And y' all find this?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, they can find. They can find that quick. That ain't nothing. They can, especially when using technology. Oh, they, they find you quick. Come on.

[Uncle Neff]

You, you get somebody emailing you send this, and you thought you did something, too? I showed them. Is that him? Joel Molina.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, they found out who it was already.

[Uncle Neff]

He put in his name. He sent it. His name was up there.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, damn. He bold dumb, dumb. Gamble.

[Uncle Neff]

It's if, if you. You trying to pay a mortgage, are you trying to pay a car note and you betting on games? The unpredictability of it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm good. I told you. I just learned how to play blackjack, UNC. And I played a 25 tables. I get a hundred dollars out the ATM. When that hundred dollars is gone, I'm gone. It's a wrap. That's the extent of that.

[Uncle Neff]

League. Is there anything the league can do? Ocho, it's too, it's too big. Look, the thing that calls sports to be as big as they are was two things. Fantasy and sports betting. That genie is out of the bottle.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes.

[Uncle Neff]

Billions and billions is just like alcohol. It was bootleg and only a handful, but now they made alcohol Legal. The same thing they did with marijuana. And you see the gambling. So not. They still do illegal betting. So I don't want people to think they get away with it. But when they made sports betting legal, and you. Now you got it in New York and I think you got it in Jersey, it's just not in Las Vegas. And you see, they was trying to get this thing in Dallas. They trying to get this thing over. Over the finish line, right? It ain't. Ain't no turning back now, Ocho. Ain't nothing. Yeah, ain't nothing you can do, Ocho. It's. It is what it is. That's the thing that, that, that. That's why the Ocho, you love betting on NFL. You love betting the parlays. I'm gonna bet the coin flip. I bet it be heads. I bet what color Gatorade gonna. They gonna jump on the winning coach Red. Who scored the first touchdown? How long is the national Anthem? Is it 90 seconds? Is it 2 minutes? Is it a minute? It's just too much. It's too much to bet on. I just. I. I just. Man, you. You call somebody that you don't even know and you call you, you, you, you. You email this person, this. This man's family and disturbed their peace all because you lost. She didn't tell you to bet on her husband. She didn't tell you to bet at all. But if. If you married and somebody were to say that to your wife or your mother, your sister, you'd be upset.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Be upset, be mad.

[Uncle Neff]

But y' all feel. Y' all can say anything and see the problem that I have. And there are people out there, oh, if I made a me, If I made 20 million, if I made 200 million, you could say whatever you wanted to. To my wife. You could say whatever you know, you couldn't stop because y' all put everything on money. Money don't make it. At the end of the day, he's still human. I don't give a damn how much money he gonna leave here. Just cause you got Elon Musk gonna have. Gotta go have a trillion dollars. But guess what? He gonna have an appointment one day that he can't risk. He can't reschedule.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Uncle Neff]

So stop this notion because somebody, they should be immune because they're. Because they make an exorbitant amount of money. But you wouldn't want nobody to talk to your wife. You wouldn't want nobody to talk to your sister, your mom, like your grandma like that. But y' all Feel. Y' all feel totally fine to go through some of the. Define somebody's email and. And to send some bull job like this, Right? But if you saw Russ on the street, you like, hey, Russ, can I take a picture? You wouldn't call that man wife. What you called in this email if you saw them walking down the street, I bet you wouldn't.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Absolutely not.

[Uncle Neff]

And you wouldn't say that to Russ.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Absolutely not.

[Uncle Neff]

Hey, all these. I. I don't. I don't get it, though, Joe. I don't. I don't. I don't.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, I get it. I get it. Because we see this situation occur and happen so many times, not in just basketball, but in other sports as well. You see people do it online, screaming at players, sending dms. Oh, my, My, my fantasy. What you doing?

[Uncle Neff]

You needed to give damn about your fantasy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I mean, listen. Hey, it.

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's ridiculous. And it's gotten ridiculous to the point where it's out of control. And there's no way to control it now. No way to control it. I call them keyboard warriors. Everybody's a keyboard warrior. And they hide behind profiles because there's no. There's. There's no consequence for what they say, for their actions. So now they gonna keep doing it.

[Uncle Neff]

Yeah, they got them thumb muscles, Ocho. But any day, I mean, they like all this. And, you know I get freedom of speech, right? That don't mean you have freedom of consequences. That's the problem. It used to. Y' all just need to stop this, man. Y' all need to stop talking to people crazy. Stop talking to people. Wives crazy. People girlfriend or their moms crazy. Y' all being reckless out here. Don't gamble. Don't bet this. This is the way to remedy this problem. Stop betting. You're betting money that you don't have,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

trying to double up.

[Uncle Neff]

That's your problem. You're betting money you don't have. Sit y' all ass down. Get. If you got a good playing job, you working nine to five. You try to. You like OO said, you try. You trying to hit the little come up. Try to hit a lick. Too much at risk, man. It's too much at risk. Y'. All. Y' all need to stop this, man. Y' all really. Y' all really need to. Y'. All. Y'. All. Y' all be doing too much, and I couldn't. I could. I. I could. I mean, I'm trying to think, Ocho. I'm trying to think, what could someone do to me to make Me call their wife, the girlfriend out of the. And go through. First of all, I ain't got no email, so I ain't got to worry about that. But what would make. What would make. What would make me.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Trying to think.

[Uncle Neff]

Booker T. Washington once said, no man will make me degrade my soul by making me Haiti.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay, that's old school there, huh? Hey, Booker T. Let's throw back. I like.

[Uncle Neff]

I don't get it. I don't. I mean.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh,

[Uncle Neff]

you got to come up with a better. You got to come up with a. You got to come up with a better side. Hustle. Ojo.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Neff]

Gambling ain't it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, we. Hey, it ain't. Ain't too many out there. We can make fast money like that.

[Uncle Neff]

No, no, there's not. And to go on somebody because the man, they ain't score point. Ain't nobody. He tell you to bet on him. But to call that man that man. Wife, that man. Come on now, y'. All. Y' all doing y'. All. That's way too much. Way, way, way too much. Way too much. That man don't bother nobody. His wife don't bother anybody. All I know is that from what I've seen, she's a supportive wife. Occasionally you see at the game, but for the most part, you don't really see her too much. And that's okay, too. And that's probably by design. Cause Russ don't want to have to whip somebody for going crazy. Cause he strikes him as that type of guy. He's not gonna let you disrespect his family.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah, he's quick.

[Uncle Neff]

When some Abrah, he's like, I'm a man. I got a wife. I got kids. I'm a husband. Don't talk. Don't disrespect me like that. And people, man, they got. They got to stop this, man. They'd be doing too much. They'd be doing way too much. And this notion, oh, you can say whatever to me. You give me this amount of money, you know they won't. No, you can't. No. And they need to just stop doing it. Ocho. Kevin Durant was asked about the best player he's ever paid played with. Katie said it's a tie between Steph and Russ.

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[Uncle Neff]

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[Uncle Neff]

With Russ, I never feared that he was going to lose a matchup. That's the one thing I never worried about, having that comfort from a park guard. You just made my life easier. He's in a unattainable situation because if he says Steph it don't mention Russ, right? People like oh man, you play with you only played with Steph for three years, right? You played with Russ for 10 this many years then somebody gonna probably take so you can't win. I mean it. It's tough. It's tough because you know that you that's what we do oo sometime. Well, who gonna win the game? Ooh, man, I got the Bengals.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay.

[Uncle Neff]

I take the Browns. That's just we. We in that society now. That's what we do. You. You got to pick one or the other.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, but listen, he. He answered it honestly. And you talk about the best you ever played with, and it's two different factors on why he chose two different people. Because at that time, when it was okc, it was Russ hell. But I also played with probably the greatest, arguably the greatest shooter of all time. When I was with. With goddamn Steph, I wasn't there that long. But when I was there, that the proof is in the pudding. He's one of the greatest, the greatest shooter of all time.

[Uncle Neff]

Best quarterback you ever played with. See how I like. I like how you did you see how you see? Now you see?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Let's see.

[Uncle Neff]

When you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

When you ask me that question, I would take the person who's responsible for the majority of my success. So I would. I would have to go with Carson. Even though statistically Tom Brady is the greatest of all time, it ain't.

[Uncle Neff]

No, statistically, he is. Oh, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You know what I mean?

[Uncle Neff]

If you. Even if you take away all the passing yards and just look at the Super Bowl.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right, right, right, right, right, right.

[Uncle Neff]

But. But see that. And. But see that's the thing, right, Is that it's a no win situation, because like you said, if you say somebody other than Carson, people gonna say, Carson, Mancho played with you all them year. And he said, tom Brady better than you. Even though Carson would understand. He's like, man, I thought Ocho and I was. Were cool, right? Hell, I told Joe I had with Joe's lady, like, hey, Joe, I love you, but I'm taking seven. Ain't with no super bowl with you, right? Ain't gonna no pro boy with no all pro. And that guy was the main reason of any player that I got decan. Remember what you want me to say? You want me to lie, right? No. So I get it. I get it. And. And I hate that because you know, if he just said one or the other, they gonna clip that thing up. Yeah. And it's gonna be trendy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He answered it the right way.

[Uncle Neff]

Yeah. Anthony Edwards say Memphis has dirty hotel rooms. When I go to Memphis, I'll be like, damn, this ish be dirty. I walked in Memphis hotel one time, it has stained and ish on the bed. Come on, man, they ain't clean the bed like that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Wait, hold on. You talk about the NBA hotel or just a regular hotel?

[Uncle Neff]

Because the NBA, you have to stay at a four or five star hotel if it's available.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right?

[Uncle Neff]

I know, I know. Memphis got some, like some four Seasons, some rich cars or something.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, they got, they gotta have something nice. So maybe he just had one bad experience. That one bad experience. It could spoil a lot, especially if you said this out publicly. And this hotel can get bad reviews based on that one experience where a hotel worker decided not to clean up the right way. Now they got everybody thinking the hotel dirty.

[Uncle Neff]

They got four season risk cards in Memphis. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Damn. You ever had that happen? You won't. When you go see a hotel and it wasn't up to par.

[Uncle Neff]

I'm trying to think. Not the bed.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, are you one of those that check everything? You check the towels, you check the sheets, you, you look up on the stuff? I'm, I've never been.

[Uncle Neff]

No, I. Look what I do, Ocho, is that when I go somewhere, I take X amount of cash and I always leave when I leave the room.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Neff]

Normally when I leave, they go people cleaning. I like, ma', am, I left money in the room. You clean it. I, that's all I say, just clean. I'm leaving for the day. They going to clean that room. They going to have extra towels. They going to have my, my, my phone cords, charging cable. They going to have that thing folded up nice and neat. They're going to have the bedroom slippers right there, side the bed. They're going to have extra water. They're going to do all that for easy little 30, 30, 30, $40. Boom. Every time I leave, when I come in, hey, turn down service. Normally when I'm turned down, cuz I don't want to leave the room, right? But every morning, and when I leave to go, when I leave the, when I leave the hotel, I always do that. Always do that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You only give him 3040.

[Uncle Neff]

I give him $30. 40? Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Damn, huh? I mean, you could at least made it a 100. Yeah. Make, you know, make, make somebody day.

[Uncle Neff]

I, I guarantee you that. 30, 40 make it. How many people you think in the hotel that they clean, that they get they, that somebody leave a tip for?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, probably, probably not many.

[Uncle Neff]

Exactly.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, I'm just saying, you know,

[Uncle Neff]

you don't leave nothing. Who Ocho?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, see,

[Uncle Neff]

he gonna tell Chad. This man tell me I need to leave a hundred, he leaves zero.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Neff]

Chad, think about what he just said. Chad, think about what he just said. He said, shannon, Needs to leave a hundred, right? I said, well, you don't leave nothing. You. You right up.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, I had to pay for the hotel. The hotel charged me incidentals. And you telling me I need to leave something for the.

[Uncle Neff]

So you think I'm staying at a hotel for free?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, you know, I'm not. You're. You're a rewards member.

[Uncle Neff]

I ain't no rewards member.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You not?

[Uncle Neff]

No.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, listen, I, I tip when I go to restaurants, though. I mean, that. That's, you know, I ain't never thought about doing it at the hotel. I'm gonna try that next time. I'm gonna.

[Uncle Neff]

Oh, yeah. Oh, really? Oh, we need to go to. We need to go. What you call Memphis to get some barbecue. I got to take for some barbecue? No, Memphis.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, Memphis known.

[Uncle Neff]

My mouth tuned up for some barbecue.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, Memphis known for that barbecue, bro.

[Uncle Neff]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ain't Kansas. Ain't Kansas City known for barbecue, too?

[Uncle Neff]

Known for barbecue, too, Yeah. I mean, look, Texas, in Texas, Tennessee, probably Kansas City, South Carolina, mainly southern states. I mean, obviously Kansas. Kansas City is in the Midwest, right. For the most part. You talk about Texas, Tennessee, North Carolina, Georgia, South Southern states.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, it ain't nothing like. Ain't nothing. It ain't nothing like having no ribs, man, that fall off the bone, man. I, I.

[Uncle Neff]

And obviously I love poor I. I know we gonna get killed, Ocho, but I eat pork ribs.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, I, I, man, listen, I don't care what it is. I'm gonna eat it. But you ever had Tony Romas? They're better restaurants. But I'm.

[Uncle Neff]

Pause, Ocho, you need to pause with that, What I said about whatever it is, I'm gonna eat it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, we talk about food, though, huh?

[Uncle Neff]

Yeah. I don't know what you're talking about.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay, pause, pause.

[Uncle Neff]

I don't know what you talking about,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

but I, I'm there. There are very, very good barbecue places. But I just remember growing up in highly Miami lakes, I always used to go to Tony Roma's, and the goddamn ribs fall right off the bone. Yeah, baby back rib. They. Oh, my goodness. Oh, it was perfect. I haven't seen Tony Romans.

[Uncle Neff]

I want to go to Charlie. I like some dry. I want some dry rub ribs.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Dry who?

[Uncle Neff]

Dry rub?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What that mean,

[Uncle Neff]

huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Why you said dry?

[Uncle Neff]

Because this was. It's a rub, it's a seasoning that they put on them, and they're dry.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay.

[Uncle Neff]

They're not wet, like with sauce, with.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay, okay.

[Uncle Neff]

This man here.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. I ain't never heard that. Hey, well, you Your lingo be different. Like, sometimes you say stuff I never heard before.

[Uncle Neff]

All right, Chad. Y' all see what I'll be going through, man? Y' all see what I'll be going through, Chat?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

My bad.

[Uncle Neff]

Yeah, well, somebody to my. I'm in the Muslim reserves, Ocho. One week out the month, two weeks out the year. I don't eat no Pokemon.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay, okay, I like that.

[Uncle Neff]

But I eat everything on the pig except the squeal. Oh, yeah, we got to go to destination Smoke. Yeah. Marietta, California. Yeah, that tendonism.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, wait a minute. Nah, we did. Didn't he take. Did something happen with that?

[Uncle Neff]

I don't know.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, the tenderism dude, he left. He got fired. The dude took something like that. Yeah, the old man gone.

[Uncle Neff]

Yeah, well, wherever he go, we'll find him.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, we got. We got to find him, man.

[Uncle Neff]

Hell, he ain't in witness protection.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, hey, he fell out. He fell out with the owner after. After he. You know, he. He advertised and. And bred it and marketed his. His. His establishment, you know, Dude.

[Uncle Neff]

Yeah, but we got. We got. Hey, look, we going to the car. We go. Damn. Where did the. Don't they got a fair here? When did the. The. The Vegas thing? Also, we don't. I can't. I don't see anything about what Chat just said, so don't be recording that. What did you say? What did you say? Oh, oh, about the tyrannyism guy. Oh, I don't know about the tender. I don't.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I.

[Uncle Neff]

All I know is that I See, the thing is, and. So I don't know, whatever. They fell out or he got a new restaurant. I don't know. I don't know. Chat. So don't start me. The line.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, we. We gonna find it. We gonna go. We gonna go. We gotta go try that.

[Uncle Neff]

Yeah, so. But. No, but we go, hey, go to some good old pork. I'm give some good old pork ribs. I like. I like tips.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Rib tips.

[Uncle Neff]

Yep.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Uncle Neff]

I ain't a brisket guy. Do you like brisket?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I. I eat everything, boy.

[Uncle Neff]

Hey, I told you about talking like that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm talking about. Let me talk about.

[Uncle Neff]

I don't know what you talking about, Chad. We can never discern what he talking about.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, I'm talking about the ribs now, you know, I. I enjoy. I enjoy a little bit.

[Uncle Neff]

Everything here in Vegas, right? Okay. Yeah, no, I don't want none of that. I don't want no sushi. I don't want no sushi. Pizza, man. You ain't Gonna tear my stomach up.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Sushi. What?

[Uncle Neff]

Sushi pizza. Yeah, I already. Yes. Less bbq. The guy to be cooking them oxtails. Yeah, I already ordered some of them. I already ordered some of them and I had some sent to my sister. Oh, I'll be preaching, man. I'll be ordering all kind of stuff. I'd be ordering cakes.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay, I gotta. I gotta try that

[Uncle Neff]

sweet and savory Atlanta safana. Oh, they don't sent my brother cakes. They don't send me cakes. Oh, I buy stuff up there. If it look good and you close or you'll send it, right? Count me in. They'll tell you. I'll buy. I'll buy it. Yeah, but I don't hit. I don't hit the mocktails. They're expensive. I'm not gonna lie. They. They're expensive, but they could. They could he smoke. Gotta. They got a nice smoky thing they like. Look, that side.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What I got. I gotta try that. Where that's at?

[Uncle Neff]

Oh, yeah, that thing.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Where is that?

[Uncle Neff]

Yeah, Ashley, Eat it Chat. There ain't nothing. Look here, Mikey. She is the female version of Mikey. Give it to Mikey. He would like. He'll try it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hold on.

[Uncle Neff]

Life serial commercial you said about Mikey

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

from the cereal commercial back in the day.

[Uncle Neff]

Yes, that's Ash.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, that commercial was classic.

[Uncle Neff]

Yeah, that. That's Ash. But no, no, but I have. I haven't really had no experience like that, Ocho. With a hotel where, you know. You know, not like what Ann is talking about. No, no.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. I've never had that. I never had that situation either.

[Uncle Neff]

All right, we're gonna get you out here on this. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Oh, oh, my bad. We're having some technical difficulty, y'. All. Ron, for me, can y' all both wish my son, Kaden C. Bands Wilson a happy 14th birthday? He's asleep, but he'll see this in the morning. Absolutely, Ron. Thank you, guys. Hey, Kaden. Happy 14th birthday.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Happy 14th, twin. Happy 14th.

[Uncle Neff]

You had a great day. You did something really fun. You're asleep right now, but when you see this in the morning, your favorite Uncle Neff, Uncle Nocho, want to wish you a very Happy birthday. Happy 14th, Kaden. Kevin Boat night. Ocho versus Logan Paul. Put hands on him.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I like that. I like that. I like that.

[Uncle Neff]

Aaron Anderson. Ocho, you should fight. You should fight Blueface.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. If he get past Swaggy P. If Swaggy pba. If Swaggy P Beat blue face. Blue face. Then I'm gonna have to, I'm had to. Whoop. Swaggy P.

[Uncle Neff]

Air Jordan Scott. Keep it a bean. Do you miss debating, Skip? Every day. That that was Must see tv. I turned in every day someone that could rival your sports knowledge on just about any sport and any topic. Those some good times. They really were. We had, we, we had a great time. It was great. I put a lot of heart. It was a lot of work that went into that. To be able to do that two and a half hours every day, five days a week for about seven years. I miss being on television. I miss debating Skip. It was a little, it's a little different. ESPN versus Fox because it's not so much one on one basically with Skip. And I was just skipping, I, it was just skipping out, you know, with Stephen A. It's me, Stephen A. Sometimes we'll have Saturday, sometimes we'll have Ryan, sometimes we have Cam. And so it's kind of hard to get that rival rivalry going back and forth. You, you kind of don't know where you kind of get a sense, but you don't really know where the guy's gonna go. But I do miss debating because I, I, I, I thought I was pretty good at it. And who knows? You never know what happens down the road. But eventually I'm gonna work my way back on network television.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Kevin.

[Uncle Neff]

Bo, not again. Respectfully, Lamar is too low since he's not on the list. Lamar was 28, right. He's talking about Ojo. He's talking about the, the 90, the hundred, the 99 best NFL quarterbacks ever. Lamar was number 28 on the list. So I mean, considering that he's still playing and I think everybody else, everybody else, that's, that's for the Most, especially top 10. All those guys have been to at least a Super Bowl.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right.

[Uncle Neff]

And so Lamar gonna have. Look, this is not etched in stone. This is this year's ranking.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right.

[Uncle Neff]

Might be another ranking next year that he will be higher.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. I mean, it's going to change as the years go on. Huh? It's going to change as the years go on, especially the players that are still active, that are still playing.

[Uncle Neff]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They're going to be able to improve in, in certain areas, especially with those that aren't now Mahomes. Do you, you think Mahomes can move up? I mean, I mean, he,

[Uncle Neff]

he went another, he won another Super Bowl. He's gonna go to number two.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Okay. Okay.

[Uncle Neff]

But I do and, and look, I Think this is Mahomes 10th year, 10th year coming up. It's gonna be very interesting how what they do around him, the protection they give him and the weapons. Right, because for the longest time they abandoned that because he was so great. They, they, they. We don't need a great running back or we don't need this or that. But you do. Taylor G. What's up guys? Serious questions. Why do we call Peyton Manning a four a five time MVP, but never call Steve McNair an MVP? They were co MVP. We do. Steve McNair won the MVP.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Mm.

[Uncle Neff]

Obviously Steve tragically lost his life. But I played, I played against Steve four times when I was in Baltimore because we were in the same division at the time. It was the AFC North. No, it was the Central. It used to be the AFC Central. And then, you know, they broke it up. They put it the south, right. In the North. The west and east stayed the same. But no, Steve, Steve isn't, he's, he's an mvp. I, I don't know if we've ever had. I don't know have we ever. If they've ever been another situation where we've had CO MVPs.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. CO MPs.

[Uncle Neff]

Aladdin H. Johansson, USA. USA. Yes. Men and women put foots in the Canadians.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Congratulations.

[Uncle Neff]

We the champs. We are the champions. No time for loser. Cause we are the champ. Nina Rogers, 89. Could you speak on Dale Carter for a moment? I feel like he doesn't get talked about enough. My guy, my homeboy, played with, played against DC when he was at Kansas City. Played with him one year in 99 when he was with. It came to the Broncos. DC, DC could have been a lot better. He, I mean, long limb guy, a great man to man coverage. He was physical. But you look at his statue, you like you would expect him to be as physical as he was. Yeah, a little undisciplined at times. Was easily set off.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Superb athlete, boy.

[Uncle Neff]

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Superior athlete. I played with D.C. when D.C. was in Baltimore. I caught him, you know, during that time he was, you know, prime was

[Uncle Neff]

there and oh, DC was there then too.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, DC was there, man.

[Uncle Neff]

Wow. I didn't know that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, Yeah. I love Dale. I've been, I've been every time, every time I see people that know Dale and I've been asked for Dale Carter, man, you know, to talk to him, to catch up with him and see how he doing. I haven't been able to catch up with him yet.

[Uncle Neff]

I haven't heard I haven't heard from D.C. either. You know, he's from Georgia. I don't know if he's in Atlanta now, but he was. Hey, he was a wild. He was a wild.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, he. That. He was that boy. I heard. I've heard the stories. He was that boy.

[Uncle Neff]

Yeah. Yeah, I've seen. I've seen it firsthand.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, he was that boy.

[Uncle Neff]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, Chad, if you know anybody that knows Dale Carter, tell Dale I'm looking for him, man. I just want to exchange pleasantries. Exchange pleasantries. I miss him. I love him. Would love to catch up, man, and talk, man. If anybody knows, tell them send me a DM on Instagrams. It'd be. It'd be really, really dope to catch up.

[Uncle Neff]

Sean, underscore show. Ocho, what's your draft preparations like? Where and what. Where and what did you train? Oh, man, please. Oh, by draft preparation.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Well, you trained at.

[Uncle Neff]

I was running 40, I read. I run 100 meters, but I ain't know nothing. I ain't no, you know. Yeah. Standing long jumping or shortcut. When I showed up, that was the first time seeing that's what I was gonna do. It ain't like it is now because it was in the. It was in the early, early stages. Now they. If I'm not mistaken, I think they had just started going to Indy, like 87. See, they used to have regional combines. Ojo Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right.

[Uncle Neff]

So where. If you was in the west, you went to somewhere in the West. If you was in the south, you went to somewhere in the South. If you was in the east, you went to somewhere in the East. There was no central location like Indy, like what they have now.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right.

[Uncle Neff]

And so, yeah, I did. I didn't really know anything like that, but there were guys that would obviously go into going to Orlando or they were going different places and. And doing the speed training. I didn't. I didn't know anything about it because had I. Had I known, right. I. I definitely would have went.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I. I did all my work down in. Down in la, obviously, with my coach and my. My receiver. My receiver coach, Charles Collins. I'm sure a lot of people out in LA know who Charles Collins is. He's basically the one responsible for my. My success, my route running, just everything about it. So he got me ready for the combine and that was about it. I did all my training out there. Manhattan Sand Dunes, back in the day. I'm not sure the Manhattan Sand Dunes are still.

[Uncle Neff]

They still there? They still. Yeah, I don't Know, I think they do watch you. I still think they still go run. Run them sometime.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay. Yeah, I did all my training and did my track work there. It was a good time. Those some good days, boy. Those are some good days.

[Uncle Neff]

Yeah. We definitely didn't. I didn't. I had no. I had no idea OO that, you know, you could go because you get to the combine and you hear people talking about, like. Because my year OO was the year that a lot of those juniors came out.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Neff]

EMT came out. Lamar Lathan, Junior Seow, all those guys had come out. And so it slid. A lot of people that might have been thinking they were going one place. It slid people down, down. I think Jeff George came out. I think Jeff George came out that year, so. But no, had I. Had I known, knowing what I know now, that you could go someplace and I could just specifically train, run the 40, do the short shuttle and do stuff, stay the long jump. Vert. My numbers have been. My numbers have been real Good.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Swole.

[Uncle Neff]

Underscore. Nerd.5900 could go a long way on the hood party. Come on, now. Yeah. $5900, man. I. Hey, I gave my homeboys 300. We had a nice little hood party. Yeah, nice. Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Where was that?

[Uncle Neff]

At the crib? Solo. So. Solo cups. We had, like. Had, like, 15 steaks. We had.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Neff]

Had, like, them bubble. Them bubble hamburger patties.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay.

[Uncle Neff]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yo, y' all ain't.

[Uncle Neff]

Y' all got, like. Got like, three or four. Got, like, three or four cases.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Neff]

A beer.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay.

[Uncle Neff]

We had absolute. We had Belvedere. We had Gray Goose. We had a. What was that other kettle One, man, we had a nice little hood party, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hold on, hold on, hold on. You know a hood party in the hood. Party about entertainment. Y' all ain't had no entertainment?

[Uncle Neff]

No, my grandma was a lie there. No, my grandma was sitting there. So we had specific instructions. No cussing and no loud talking.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay, so. No. No adult.

[Uncle Neff]

Hey, man, you cuss in front of your grandmother, it's like, nah. I said, well, don't cuss in front of mine.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah. No, that's a no. No, that's a no. No.

[Uncle Neff]

Absolutely not. So, Christopher Taylor. Hey, we birthday twins. My sister, too. She's six years. She's six years older. Happy birthday, Kristen. June 22nd.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Happy birthday,

[Uncle Neff]

Almighty. James don't know nothing. Don't get nothing from nobody out the city. Look, I usually get a little hook up here and there. You know what I'm saying? I ain't No, I ain't no Johnny Mac. Didn't know your co host was in the Muppets. My profile pic. Oh, you did a muffin? Don't. Yo.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, he talking about my laugh.

[Uncle Neff]

Oh, okay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I laugh like. Like the Muppets.

[Uncle Neff]

I thought you was in the Muppets for real, man. Now. You know I was on American dad, man. They killed me off. Ocho, right?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, I was on. I was on Squid Billy's. I didn't been in a few cartoons now. Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Neff]

Joe Lord. Shay Shay. I love you, Unc. Ocho, thoughts on the birds? O.C. well, going by what Saquon say, he seems to be. Look, I don't think he can be any worse than Petula. You know it. This is not the first time. You know they went to the Super Bowl. They low. They lost. They used. They lose Gannon and they lose Stichen. They. They. They. They struggle for a year. They go get a new coordinator and they go to the super bowl and they win. They bring f and they win.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Neff]

So May. Hey, maybe lightning can strike twice, Big Larry. That's true, Shannon. I had twins when I was 41 years old and triplets at 55.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

God damn.

[Uncle Neff]

Triplets at 55. 55.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

See, you ain't got no excuse. He had triplets. I mean, you can you. One more won't hurt. I'm telling you, boy. Another. Another little one. It do something to you. It change your life. How you thinking different? How you walking different? Have you appreciating things a little bit more? What you think about that?

[Uncle Neff]

Oh, yeah. What you thinking? Yeah, man. Ooh. All right. I'm gonna think about it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

There we go. There we go.

[Uncle Neff]

I thought about it. No,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

come on, man.

[Uncle Neff]

What did they say? JJ Carver, 80. This is for Ash. How many ibuprofens and bcs you grow through laughing at Uncan? Ocho, my nugget hit the dougie every show day, one member. And it's been worth every single buck salute to the whole crew. They don't know about no BC and goody powders. That. That's a Southern thing. They don't know nothing about that Ocho burger. Joe. You don't know birth control.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Who don't know about birth control, huh?

[Uncle Neff]

Lord have mercy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, Chatty. To my bc. Who the hell don't know about birth control? Come on now.

[Uncle Neff]

Nah, that's not what it is.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What it is. You said bc.

[Uncle Neff]

It's for paying bc.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I only know bc. I know two things that stand for bc. Birth control. And Bethune cookman.

[Uncle Neff]

No. Lord have mercy. Chat. But, hey, Google goodies, goody powders and bcs, and then you'll see what we talk about.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hold on, let me. Let me put that. Let me put that in my goodies. Yes.

[Uncle Neff]

Like I said, that's. That's an old Southern thing. I mean, I'm sure this new generation, Y' all don't know nothing like that, but that's what used to have. Used to have them and people be drunk and stuff like that. Hangovers and. And headaches. Quick, you take one and you know, boom.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, why you ain't say bc Powder?

[Uncle Neff]

Powder.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You said bc.

[Uncle Neff]

I said BC and goody powder.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah, Goody powder. I thought you were talking about that. That nose candy boy, you know, let's

[Uncle Neff]

move on this man here, y'. All. Boy, hey, missed an episode since the start. Help me wish my wife a happy ninth wedding anniversary. Tim and Leslie, Mike, Tim, thank you very much. We really appreciate that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What up, Tim?

[Uncle Neff]

Leslie. Tim and Leslie. Happy night. Wedding anniversary. Wow. Nine years. One more for the big one zero. Ten.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Big ten.

[Uncle Neff]

Congratulations. Happy for you guys. Stay prayed up, stay blessed.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[Uncle Neff]

Happy ninth wedding anniversary. Ricky, what's the best fight you watched boxing wise? The best. Ooh, goodness. That's a good one.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, that's a really good one.

[Uncle Neff]

Probably Ward. Not Ward. Yeah. Mickey Warden. Arturo Gotti. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, hold on, guy. Which one? It was three of them.

[Uncle Neff]

Said the trilogy all over. All of them was great.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Really good.

[Uncle Neff]

I really like the Tyson Holyfield. The first one.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Neff]

You know who had some great fights?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Who? That.

[Uncle Neff]

Riddick Bow and Evander Holyfield.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Neff]

I don't know if you remember when Fan man came into the ring at Caesar's Palace.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Nah.

[Uncle Neff]

Yeah, they was fighting outside, and Fan man, he. He tried to land into the rig. He got stuck on the ropes, though. I'm trying a fight that went back and forth,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Trying to think. You remember. Remember James, Tony and Roy Jones?

[Uncle Neff]

That fight was. I think it was a 93.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm trying to think who else,

[Uncle Neff]

93 or 94?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And it's. It's so many.

[Uncle Neff]

Oh, Tyson and Razor Ruddock. I don't know if people remember that fight.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Damn, my light went out, man.

[Uncle Neff]

Yeah. I mean, look, the Hag, the Hagler, Hearns, But I don't. That fight was in 81, and that was. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I'm. I'm trying to go by fights that I saw, you know, personally. Ocho, right? Yeah, I saw The Mayweather Zab Super Judah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That was. Hey, that. Hey, that was a good fight, boy.

[Uncle Neff]

Oh, you know, a good fight. Ocho who? Shane Mosley and Antonio Margarita. I ain't gonna say Margarita and Kodo. Because he cheated.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He cheated where he had his.

[Uncle Neff]

His girl had that plaster in his hand gloves.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Neff]

Miko. 1982. When will you guys be bringing the big three to Charlotte? No dates for summer tour has been definitively set, but we're trying to. We're working behind the scenes, trying to see what we can. What we can put together. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. As you watch, the greatest woman boxer ever, Clarissa Shields, defender title via unanimous decision against Franchon Cruz Dejern. It was a shutout. She was spectacular, and she was. Well, I mean, I don't really know what else I can say. Oh, Tyson. And what's the one he lost to Ocho? Buster Douglas. Yeah, that was a great fight. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite unc. And that is my partner and co host, Liberty City's own Bingo's Ring of fame honoree, a former pro bowler and an all pro, he's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. We like to thank each and every one of you for your eyes, ears, and your word of mouth. Thank you so much for making Nightcap the success that it's become. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shade by Laportier head over to laportiercognac.com to purchase you a bottle. Here's the premium VSOP cognac, the best tasting premium VSOP cognac on the market compared against other cognacs. And you'll see we have superior taste and smoothness. Please drink responsibly and be safe. As I mentioned, Osho Ocho, Clarissa Shields successfully defenders are undisputed. Heavyweight crown in a rematch against Frenchon Cruz Dej, a longtime rival. Be an unanimous decision. All three judges scored the fight 100 to 90. So congratulations, Clarissa. Great show, and hopefully you got another match coming up real, real soon. All the stars showed up. You know, Michael Blackson was in the house. Mike Epps was in the house. Bootsy brought her out. Hey, it was a. It was. It was a night and she put on the show, so congratulations to her. I'm un. He's oo. We'll see you tomorrow night. Thanks for joining us.

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