Nightcap Hour 2: Ohio State’s Sonny Styles DESTROYS the NFL Combine + Aaron Glenn CAUGHT NAPPING at COMBINE + Colts GRANT Anthony Richardson to SEEK TRADE + Puka Nacua & Cooper Kupp to TRAIN in OFFSEASON

Summary

Nightcap Podcast Summary

Episode: Nightcap Hour 2: Ohio State’s Sonny Styles DESTROYS the NFL Combine + Aaron Glenn CAUGHT NAPPING at COMBINE + Colts GRANT Anthony Richardson to SEEK TRADE + Puka Nacua & Cooper Kupp to TRAIN in OFFSEASON
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe (“Unc”), Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson ("Ocho")
Date: February 27, 2026

Overview

This lively episode covers a busy NFL Combine week, with Shannon and Ocho drilling into outstanding athletic performances (especially Ohio State’s Sonny Styles), viral moments (like Aaron Glenn napping), Colts QB drama, and offseason routines of NFL stars. True to form, the duo brings banter, hard truths, much laughter, and some wisdom for younger players. The second hour is rich in NFL scouting talk, combine nostalgia, and hilarious viewer Q&A.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Ohio State’s Sonny Styles DOMINATES Combine

(00:46 - 09:54)

• Sonny Styles (LB/S, Ohio State) turned heads:
  • 4.46s 40-yard dash (tied for first)
  • 1.56s 10-yard split (tied for first)
  • 43.5" vertical (all-time LB record)
  • 11'2" standing long jump (4th all-time)
  • 6’5”, 244 lbs – “Built like Calvin Johnson, three pounds lighter than Derrick Henry.”
• Hosts compare his measurables to NFL greats: Calvin Johnson, Bijan Robinson, Nate Robinson, Julio Jones.
• Avery Reese also ran a 4.46s 40—Ocho and Unc celebrate a won bet on his time.
• Reflections on the sheer explosion of modern athletes versus prior legends (Jevon "The Freak" Kearse's combine history).

Notable Quote:

"The measurables, the intangibles and the numbers jump off the roof. When you turn the film on, you get exactly just that as well. ...I guarantee you whatever his draft stock was before the combine, even if it was already high, it just climbed a little bit higher."
— Shannon (01:51)

2. Combine Training and Pro Day Science

(05:11 - 06:56)

• Players invest heavily to prep for measurable drills:
  • 6-8 weeks of focused, specific drills
  • Nutrition, workouts, agent-funded
  • If they “pop” with a great 40, “you done made it back tenfold.”
• Some combine “sleepers” can transform their career with one standout dash.
• But “the tape is the most important thing, always.”

Notable Quote:

"You give these guys... like a test. This is the exact test. You run 40s, shuttle, vert, long jump… that’s all they do… All you need is one four-four."
— Shannon (05:11)

3. Speed vs. Game Speed, and Playbook Wisdom

(08:39 - 09:54)

• Not all "fast" combine times play fast on the field—pads and mental processing matter.
• Key for young players: learn your playbook inside-out, so speed can translate to game days.

Notable Quote:

"He who hesitates is beat every time... You can't think, cause if you're going against somebody, you're thinking, he's not. He gone."
— Shannon (09:54)

4. Legendary Combine Performances & Athletic Freaks

(10:13 - 12:23)

• Discussion of legendary testers:
  • Boss Bailey, Gerald Sensabaugh (verticals 44"-45")
  • Byron Jones (12'3" standing long jump—world record)
  • Stephen Paea's 49 reps on bench.
  • Larry Allen’s feats (43 bench reps at Pro Bowl).
• Respect for outlier physical talent—“Do you know how much endurance you gotta have to do that?” (12:17)

5. Maxx Crosby Transformation

(13:22 - 14:39)

• Maxx Crosby’s viral photo, transformation from combine to present.
• “That’s a hard playing Jesse, boy... he gonna cause some havoc now.”
• Playstyle breakdown—“he's unpredictable, hard to block, that jumps inside, lines up everywhere.”

6. Memories of Legendary "Wild" Defenders

(14:51 - 17:52)

• Junior Seau, Troy Polamalu, Ed Reed reminiscences: sideline-to-sideline instincts, habit of being in the right place at the right time.
• Ed Reed’s unparalleled takeaway skills: “Every time we get an interception, we think about six points.”

Notable Quote:

"Ed Reed is the best safety I've seen. I've never seen a guy... take the ball away and turn it into points every time."
— Shannon (17:09)

7. Aaron Glenn CAUGHT NAPPING at the Combine

(18:23 - 19:29)

• Viral moment: Jets head coach Aaron Glenn appears to nap during drills.
• Ocho: “That’s not a big deal… I call that a quick little blink.”
• Both agree: staff covers everything, the combine can be long, exhausting days.

8. Colts Give Anthony Richardson Sr. Permission to Seek Trade

(23:49 - 34:57)

• Colts letting former top-5 pick QB Anthony Richardson (injuries, vision issues) seek a trade.
• Where could he land? “You might have to go be a backup for a couple years...”
• Discussion on developmental patience, and whether teams actually give QBs time to grow.
• Criticism of Richardson’s work ethic, priorities, and locker room fit:
  • “You can’t be the last one in the building and the first one out...” (27:05)
  • "You’re a rookie and having a team meeting to talk to you? ...I’ve never heard that before." (28:02)
• Both hope he gets a fresh start and takes football more seriously.
• Analogy comparing project QBs to fixer-upper cars: require patience and investment.

Notable Quote:

"Sometimes, Ocho, you have to go through something to really appreciate it. ...Maybe this is the wakeup call that he needed. I sure hope so."
— Shannon (28:48)

9. Puka Nacua & Cooper Kupp Training Early in Offseason

(35:01 - 37:23)

• Wideouts already back at it in February.
• Both hosts surprised: “Man, I let my body heal... didn’t start back until March.”
• Old vs. new training philosophies: “Let your body rest!”

10. NBA Quick Hits

(37:29 - 45:50)

• PrizePicks segment: Cade Cunningham, Jarrett Allen, Jose Alvarado, Shai Gilgeous-Alexander predictions.
• Lakers struggles, backcourt defense issues, free agency speculation (Luka Doncic).
• Music and nostalgia: “Saturday” by Sherelle & Alexander O’Neal

11. Open Q&A: Cracker Nostalgia, Pancakes, and Jokes

(41:00 - End)

• Wide receiver “keep three, cut seven” debates: TO, Megatron, Tyreek Hill among their favorites.
• Extended nostalgic riff about crackers and snacks—Ritz, animal crackers, Fig Newtons, Chips Ahoy, pimento cheese debates.
• Food spots and soul food talk (Nana's, Cracker Barrel, IHOP).
• Ocho’s classic one-liners and riddles: “If the early bird gets the worm, why doesn’t the worm wake up later?” (40:32)
• Playful banter throughout.

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Notable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

• “The measurables, the intangibles and the numbers jump off the roof...” — Shannon, re: Sonny Styles (01:51)
• "You give these guys the exact test... you run four-four, guess what, you done made it back." — Shannon (05:11)
• “He who hesitates is beat every time.” — Shannon (09:54)
• “Ed Reed is the best safety I've seen...take the ball away and turn it into points every time.” — Shannon (17:09)
• “That’s not a big deal… I call that a quick little blink.” — Ocho, about Aaron Glenn (19:08)
• “You can’t be the last one in the building and the first one out...” — Shannon (27:05)
• "You’re a rookie and having a team meeting to talk to you?...I’ve never heard that before.” — Shannon (28:02)
• “Sometimes, Ocho, you have to go through something to really appreciate it. ...Maybe this is the wakeup call that he needed. I sure hope so.” — Shannon (28:48)

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Memorable Segments & Vibes

• Combine Freak Athletes (01:00 - 12:23): Playful awe at the latest college athletic mutants.
• Richardson Trade Drama (23:49 - 34:57): Candid, old-school NFL player wisdom on what it takes to succeed at QB.
• Q&A Banter/Nostalgia (41:00 - End): Warm, relatable digressions—the two hosts at their most personable and funny.
• Food and Life Wisdom: From soul food shoutouts to pancake debates, Unc and Ocho connect with fans beyond football.

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Ohio State’s Combine Dominance: 00:46 – 09:54
• Legendary Measurables Discussion: 10:13 – 12:23
• Maxx Crosby and NFL Defensive Legends: 13:22 – 17:52
• Aaron Glenn Napping Viral Moment: 18:23 – 19:29
• Colts & Anthony Richardson Trade Drama: 23:49 – 34:57
• Puka & Kupp Offseason Training: 35:01 – 37:23
• NBA Segment/PrizePicks: 37:29 – 45:50
• Q&A, Food and Life: 41:00 – End

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Final Word

This episode is a must-listen for NFL fans—whether you love the nitty-gritty of combine testing, spicy takes on player development, or just want wise, funny commentary from two all-time greats. Sharpe and Ochocinco blend locker-room candor, nostalgia, and laughs, making Nightcap feel like hanging with old friends who know their football and their soul food.

Transcript

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[C]

Ocho. Yeah, remember we talked about it. Ocho.

[D]

What happened?

[C]

The Ohio State, they put on the show today. Ohio State Sunny Styles official combine. He ran 4, 4, 6. He tied for first. The 1.56 10 yard split tied for first. He set a, a combined record for linebackers, a 43 1/2 inch vertical which was the best all time. For linebackers, his 112 standing long jump was the best in this group. It was the fourth best all time. Sonny Styles profile. He's six' five, same height as Calvin Johnson. The 244 is three pounds lighter than Derrick Henry. The four, four, six that he ran is the same as Bijan Robinson. The 43.5 vert is the same, is Nate Robinson. And well, the 13.5 which is 11.2 is the same as Julio Jones. The other guy, Avery Reese, he ran four. I think he ran four, four, six as well. So we won that bet because he's supposed to be under 449. So we won.

[D]

Hey, hey, boy. The measurables, the intangibles and the numbers jump off the roof. And when you turn the film on, you get exactly just that as well. I'm not sure where young Bull is gonna go, but I guarantee you whatever his draft stock was before the combine, even if it was already high, it just climbed a little bit higher.

[C]

I said this. The one thing Ohio State guys can do is they contest.

[D]

Jesus.

[C]

I don't know who the strength and conditioning coach is and I don't know if he went somewhere else.

[D]

Right.

[C]

Cause you know, they got facilities in Florida. They got Arizona, they got Cali, they got Texas. You know, Michael Johnson put a, got, got a speed camp going. Yeah, I don't know. But all I know is this Ohio State guys, they could go.

[D]

Boy, they can go. Hey, hey. You saw Reese, did you see what Ava Reese tested that too? Yeah, 88, man.

[C]

And they had Caleb downs on that. So they had three guys. I mean, they got top guys on that defense, right? And they had to deal. I forget the D lineman, but they got. They got a couple of D liners, but one of them is. Was great. Is graded really high. But six foot five, 244. That's crazy with those measurables.

[D]

Hold on. A four. Four, huh?

[C]

Yeah,

[D]

man.

[C]

At 244. Six foot five. Ocho, that's.

[D]

That's cr. That's crazy.

[C]

These guys. That's crazy, man. These guys get. These guys get ridiculous with it, man. These guys getting. I mean, and I think they had. They had like. Hold on. They had like four or five linebackers that run that ran like sub four or five.

[D]

That's crazy. Hey, what was. What was Javon curse? You remember Javon curse stats at the combine? Did he even do the combine?

[C]

I think he did.

[D]

You think. You think his staff's probably similar, huh?

[C]

Yeah. Freak was creep. Freak was a man. You had to see. I mean, I got it, boy. This absolute apex.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

At his absolute, absolute best. Because he came in at 99. I was there in 2000 and 2001, so I saw him at his absolute apex.

[D]

Oh, yeah. I don't think. Hey, the chat might not remember. Y' all remember chat. Y' all remember Javon curse when they

[C]

called him the freak?

[D]

Oh, my goodness.

[C]

He was like 6, 5. He probably like 265. You got it. Hey, I mean, he had crazy. He had crazy measurables shredded. Oh, yeah. Yes. Yes.

[D]

Hey, I seen. I seen Freak not too long ago in the airport, man. He still looked the same.

[C]

Do it.

[D]

Hey, yo, I'm like, why? Why? You look like you can still play. I seen him at F1 in Miami too. Like, God damn. What?

[C]

Hold on. At 265, he ran 4, 5, 8. He had a 37 inch vertical, a 42, 424 in the 20 yard shuttle. But at his pro day, he ran 4, 4, 3. At 260, he was even faster. Yeah, he was defensive rookie of the year, obviously. He had 14 and a half sacks.

[D]

That's crazy.

[C]

Oh, Freak, these guys are getting. You give these guys. Ocho, it's kind of like you give these guys, like a test. This is. Okay, this. This is the exact test. You go, I'm gonna give you six weeks. I'm gonna give you eight weeks to prepare. This is the exact test that you're going to take.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

All these guys do is run 40s, shuttle vert, long standing, brawl, jump 225. That's all they do. And they take the wonder leg. That's all they do. The exact test. Yeah. They eat, sleep, they, they work out twice a day. They get the right nutrition. What you're trying to do, you're trying to take weight off, you're trying to gain weight. You try to keep the speed right Shakes, Everything is prepared. You probably take out a loan, you know, your agent give you a little bread, say look, this is what's going to cost. Probably cost you 20, $25,000. You go here and you run four. Four, guess what? You done made it back.

[D]

Yeah. Hey, you'd have made it back plus some.

[C]

10, tenfold plus.

[D]

It's so funny. Hey Chat. It's so funny if, if a lot of players that's going to go to the combine that maybe been overlooked, maybe their film, they don't pop out on film as much as they should. But that 40 yard dash, that 40 yard jazz can change your life. To change your life depending on what you run. Especially you run a staggering time based on the positions you play. Man, listen. That your life can change in the blink of an eye. If you're not one of those top picks, you know that, that, that it, that is if that is always know on, on everybody's radar. Especially you played at the Power 5 schools where everybody knows what you can do. But there going to be some sleepers on that nobody knows about that gonna get. When, when the receivers run.

[C]

Saturday.

[D]

Saturday. Man, I, I can't, I can't wait.

[C]

We won for one. Who didn't. Who didn't pan out? He ran, he read. No, he ran 446.

[D]

Yes. Who didn't.

[C]

Who didn't pay it out. Oh, oh, okay. You said we won for one. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He paid out. I was like, yeah. Because all he had to do was run under 4. 449. Yeah, he ran 446. Okay. Yeah. So who we got next? Who we got up.

[D]

The rest of our guys on Saturday.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

Jeremiah Love and Carson back.

[C]

Okay. No, I, I think, yeah. But here's the thing. If you play fast and you don't test fast, if you don't, they're gonna go back and look, they're gonna say okay, yeah, he jumps off the screen. So why didn't he run faster? Right? Because normally got this is what look at a guy. If a guy can stand in long jump or he convert, that means he's explosive. So he's probably going to be good, really good in the 40. Guys that are good in the 40, they normally. Because that's explosive energy.

[D]

Right.

[C]

So normally it translates. So if I want. But at the end of the day now, the tape is the most important thing always. All I'm hoping is that boy. Oh, this joker here, he jumps off the tape. Give you a private example. Michael Parsons.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Go back and look at Michael Parsons tape. He jumps off the field. Now he comes to the combine. Everything that you saw on tape, it's there.

[D]

You know what's funny too chat and, and why the combine is so important, especially that 40 yard dash. Because you can't teach speed. No, you can't teach speed.

[C]

I can improve it. But if you prove it, if you, if you a 5 flat, I can't get you down to 4.

[D]

4.

[C]

I'm sorry.

[D]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you can't. But when you, when you find those jam zunk, you know, those four tools and those four threes and, and they can, they can, they can carry their pads, as they call it, because there are a lot of people that, that test fast, but they play slow.

[C]

Correct.

[D]

Especially when they put them damn pads on.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

Well, God damn. What happened?

[C]

Yeah, son, run. I am. Damn. You running.

[D]

Yeah. Everybody can't carry those pads, man. It's weird.

[C]

A lot of time, Ocho, when guys are not. Don't they. They, they are fast. They thinking. Because if you thinking. Yeah, you can't play fast. No, you can't because you like. Well, damn. Am I, Am I. Run, bro. Go, go, go.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

And so that's why I say, girl, guys, learn your playbook. The only way you can maximize your ability is to know the playbook. Know where you're supposed to go and get there in a hurry.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

He who hesitate is beat every time. You can't think because if you going against somebody, you thinking he's not. He gone.

[D]

Mm.

[C]

He's gone. So. But the, those guys, them linebackers, they, they put on the show today.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

43 and a half inch vert. But see, here's the thing, Ocho, that's different than what the NBA test. The NBA let you run and jump.

[D]

They get to run and do it.

[C]

Yep. Man, do you know what these guys would do if they would just let them run and jump?

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Some of these guys, I mean, Boss Bailey, I think Boss Bailey had like a 44. Gerald Sensible, he had like a 45 inch bird played with the Cowboys 45. Yes.

[D]

Jesus.

[C]

Yeah. Oh. Hey. What?

[D]

Just standing there, standing.

[C]

I think Boss bailey had, like, 44 champs, brother.

[D]

Yeah. Yeah. Boss was athletic as hell.

[C]

Did Boss play? You played with Boss, right? Nah. Where did Boss go? He might have went to Detroit.

[D]

He was in Detroit?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah, he was in Detroit.

[C]

Who else had? Byron. What was Byron? The guy, the. The DB from the Cowboys with the Yukon.

[D]

Byron Jones.

[C]

Byron Jones. That joker standing long jump, 12:3. Which is a world record if they were tested.

[D]

Damn, yes.

[C]

Boy, that joker had. He got jackass in him or something.

[D]

You know how. You know how. You know how far 12ft is?

[C]

Hell, yeah.

[D]

From standing. From standing still.

[C]

Let you know how explosive you are. Yeah. Look at track guys, I bet if. If you were to test track guys and stuff like that, right? They explosive Jokers get out on Joe.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

You got to be explosive to get out like that, man. Yeah, but I think. I think. I think Gerald Sensible still has the record at 45. Bert. Byron Jones has the record 12 3. Stephen Paell got the record in the bench. He did 49 reps at 225.

[D]

How many?

[C]

49. Hey, he got 50. He got 50 right there. Ocho,

[D]

that's crazy.

[C]

Do you understand how much endurance you gotta have to do that?

[D]

50 reps? Absolutely.

[C]

Hell, once you get to 30, that lactic acid.

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[C]

You get the 40.

[D]

I saw Larry Allen. I forgot how many Larry Allen did it.

[C]

43.

[D]

Oh, at the Pro Bowl. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

He was going, man.

[C]

Yeah, man. The comparison of Max Crosby headshot from the the Combine. Seven seasons later, Las Vegas has gone viral. Look at it. So. So, Max, you was dying your hair blonde,

[D]

Max.

[C]

And I got the beard. He said, like, yeah, hey, all the ink now. Cause he. He inked up like crazy.

[D]

Yeah. Everywhere.

[C]

But that's a hard playing Jesse boy.

[D]

Oh, yeah. He get out. He get after it.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

He gonna. Hey, he gonna cause some havoc now. He gonna get. He gonna disrupt everything you got coming.

[C]

I hate. I hate playing guys like this because he's so unpredictable.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

He lied. He lines up in a nine, and he jumps inside, and he's a damn five, bro. That ain't what you supposed to do.

[D]

No. Yeah.

[C]

And. And so you can't. You can't over overset him, right? He'll cross your face. But then if you don't step with enough power, he gonna pull you. He gonna push you back into the back. Yeah, he's hot, man. He's hard. Guys like this, and there aren't very many, but you have to. A guy, he's like a junior. Say out.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Junior supposed to. Have. Supposed to. Have to tighten up the scene here in the A gap, bro. How you rest his soul. I'm like, bro,

[D]

hey, boy, you got. Hey, you got to hear Shannon Crowder tell the stories about Junior Seattle when Nick Saban was with the Dolphins. But when I tell you. When I tell you. Crowd of happy on the floor.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Laughing dog. It was so funny, man. Adam, Old Junior say our stories are hilarious, boy. Hey, hey, hey. Hey, buddy.

[C]

Hey, buddy. Hey, buddy. Everything was buddy. Yeah. I'm like, bro, man. Hey, so when we get a scout team, whoever played Burns, my best friend. He was always. He was always. He was always the mic backer. Coach said, do whatever you want. Hey, don't even worry about the cars. Do whatever you want, man. Sometimes he be running up under the wide receiver. He's supposed to be blitzing because that's what Junior would do. You had no idea what. What Junior's gonna do. He's supposed to be in the B gap. He in the A gap. He's supposed to be in the flat. He in the hook. Yeah. Like coach. I mean, I know I got Junior, but did you see where he went? He went to the seap backside. I can't get him. I'm on the right side. He went to the C cap. He went all the way to C cap, you know?

[D]

Know what's so funny about that is what Junior say I used to do. There are two other people. There are two other people that used to do that, always line up where they had no business being, but when the ball snapped, they were in the right place at the right time. Always that goddamn Troy Palomalu in those exotic defenses that they used to call with the Steelers. And goddamn Ed Reed. Ed Reed is the only safety I've ever seen. He played 30 yards back like he receiving a punt and he come forward. I unk. What the hell are we doing? How you coming forward? At the snap of the ball, his range, both of them, their range from sideline to sideline was like no other. And then they understood almost every play and knew exactly what was coming offensively. They knew where everybody was going to be. They understood the assignments on where the weaknesses were in the defense. And he took advantage of it every time. They took the chances because they knew the ball. Either the ball had to come out or. And they would jump it every time. Every single time.

[C]

Ed Reeves is the best safety I've seen. I've never seen a guy. There have been. There are only a handful of guys could take the ball away like Ed Reed. Yeah, Rod could take the ball away like every. Because they had great hands.

[D]

Right.

[C]

You know, Rod got 70 interceptions. I don't know if in today's time, if somebody go get that number. I don't. Ain't nobody getting. Jerry Krause is 81. Ain't nobody getting that record. Right. But I've never seen anybody take the ball away. And he take the ball away and turn it into points every time. It was so amazing.

[D]

Hey, it's so funny. And if. If he knows he's not gonna score. Oh, he gonna pitch it back.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

They, they, they pride themselves on. Every time we get an interception, we think about six points.

[C]

Yep.

[D]

I don't care about no stats. I'm a pitcher back. And if we trying to go to the house.

[C]

The Internet did this thing predicting what Fernando Mendoza might look like in seven years with the Raiders. I don't think that's gonna happen. No, I definitely don't think. I definitely don't think that's gonna happen.

[D]

Hey, that's funny.

[C]

The NFL Network cameras captured Aaron Glenn, the Jets head coach after three and 14 rookie season, appearing to nap as prospects like Texas Tech. David bailey ran the 40 yard dashes. This obviously went viral. Ocho, is this a big deal or. No?

[D]

I mean.

[C]

Big deal, huh? They gonna make it a big deal?

[D]

Yeah, I mean, they gonna make it a big deal. I mean, Mr. Glenn. Mr. Glenn was obviously. Obviously sleepy. Try to, you know, try to. I don't call them naps. I call a quick little blink. He took it. Yeah, he took an extended blink. I don't think it's a big deal. Obviously, it's not just you there as a head coach. Obviously you have a team of people there to let you know if there's anything that you might miss, you're doing your homework. You have.

[C]

Scouts are for.

[D]

I mean, yeah, you. You have everybody you need to there. So I'm. I'm sure people will make it a big deal because you are the head coach. Honestly, it's really not. Man. Get. Get you. Get you a little nap in whatever it may be. It's a long day. You've had a long day. People don't know what goes in and entails in being a head coach and all the hours that they put in, especially around draft time.

[C]

You up early.

[D]

Long time.

[C]

Cause you got your me. You probably got your. Your meeting with your staff before you head over there. So they probably up at the crack of dawn, they got meetings with players. You know, you get your players that you want to talk to, okay, Have a conversation with him. For the most part, they're not gonna be like time, because, you know, you have meetings, obviously, time's gonna come off the board. Yeah, time go. They call. The Giants call time in there. Time sitting down. He looking around. He like, hold on. What y' all pick? We pick 15. He's like, no, I ain't gonna even be there.

[D]

Hey, what. What pick? The prime. The time go.

[C]

Pride with five.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

Pride with five.

[D]

Well, hold on. Who the hell went in front of him?

[C]

Troy Aikman.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

Tony Mandarich. Barry Sanders, Derek Thomas. Prime.

[D]

Okay, understandable, understandable, understandable, because they got.

[C]

Because they got. Yeah. Four of the first five in the hall. Yeah. Yeah.

[D]

Hey, Tony Mandarich. What happened?

[C]

Oh, broderick thomas. Can you name the guys that went after. After prime. Hold on. Where did they go? I know, bro. He went to Tampa. Steelers, Steelers. Who went to the Steelers? Ooh wee.

[D]

What year Was that draft?

[C]

89.

[D]

Oh, God damn.

[C]

Okay, give me the next year. I'll come back. The Chargers. Burt Grossman. Yes. Miami Dolphins. Oh, but. Oh, Rich. No, no, no. Rich was. Came out my draft. Reb Came out my draft. The Dolphins. Not sweet lou oliver. Did he. Oh, sammy. Florida state. You remember sammy smith? I played with sammy. He end up. We ended up swapping, trading bobby humphrey for sammy smith. Sammy ain't want to do number play, tonk.

[D]

Oh, I ate. Who else we got at 89? Draft went to cleveland.

[C]

Tim worley. Yeah, the steelers. Okay. They took tim worley and lawrence tate. Where did lawrence tate go? Did lawrence tate go to tampa? Or you would, Because all them was in the same backfield. Tim Worley, Lawrence Tate, Rodney Hampton, Hamp. Came out my draft, went to the Giants.

[D]

Hey, it's some good.

[C]

Lars. Lars.

[D]

There's some good picks in this first round. I ain't seen some of these names in a minute. Why?

[C]

Lawrence Take Go. Where'd he go? He had to be in that draft. He wasn't in my draft. Oh, he was an 88. He came out my brother then, wow. I didn't know that. It's Lars. I was like, damn.

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[C]

David Bailey. He put on a show, too. Ocho from Texas Tech. Yeah, yeah, he put a show on today. But look, anytime you're cold, you're gonna make a big deal out of it, so you just have to be mindful. The camera's looking to catching everything. They're looking to catch everything, bro. So you just gotta. You gotta. You gotta be mindful. You gotta be mindful, Ocho. The Colts have given Anthony Richardson senior permission to seek a trade. His agent told ESPN. The former 2023 fourth overall pick has made 15 stars for the Colts, throwing 11 touchdowns, 13 interceptions while battling a string of injuries, including a shoulder surgery, a fractured orbital bone and. And vision issues. Following the procedure, the Colts are expected to move forward this year with Daniel Jones and 2025 draft pick Riley Leonard at one and two. Oo.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Where you think. Where you think Anthony Richardson ends up?

[D]

Oh, that's. That's a good question. That's a good question. I mean, what. What teams are willing to. To develop Anthony Richardson and. And allow him to. To be a backup? I mean, that. That's. That's the part. I don't know. I'm sure there's someone. Some team that might give him a chance, but hey, that's. That's tough. That's tough. You understand the quarterback position, it's. It's a premium position.

[C]

Yep.

[D]

And it's. It's very, very important. So I. I'm not Sure. I mean, your guess is as good as mine. Who's willing to give him a chance that that's the only thing.

[C]

And you might have to go be a backup for a couple of years, you know what I'm saying? Because we look at Sam Darnold. Sam Darnold left. He went to Carolina. That wasn't a great situation for him. Remember, Ocho, he went to San Fran before he went to Minnesota.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

And he said it was there where he learned how to play the quarterback position.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

So now he goes to Minnesota, parlays that plays really well, goes to the Pro bowl, and boom. That wasn't enough to convince the. The Vikes to keep him. He goes to Seattle in the next year, he wins the Super Bowl.

[D]

Damn, man, that's.

[C]

I think a lot of it's going to be contingent on oo how much do I have to give up for Anthony Richardson? I mean, the best you can probably hope for the fourth round pick, fifth.

[D]

Right.

[C]

You're not getting the first. The top five pick, and three years later, you getting up off him. Four years later, you're getting up off him o fourth round.

[D]

He had the Colts, you know, he had the Colts right in. In the palm of his hand. Huh. You know, I mean, he kind of forced their hand in a sense with some of the issues that were going on internally that we didn't know about. Obviously, I've heard about him and obviously his play on the field. It's like. And then Daniel Jones comes in and takes the team that we thought there were issues. And look at. Look how things turn around.

[C]

Ocho, when you had the conversation, I said, this is gonna be an issue. And everybody jumped on us. Man, you old school, man. Let that man live. Let him breathe. I said, guys, you don't understand how locker room works.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

You can't do some of the things that he's doing. I'm not. Look, I. I don't want to beat the young man up, but I'm just telling you the mindset. They paid this man a lot of money, and you think that you can be the last one in the building and the first one out. You think you can take yourself out of the game, and that's just gonna be okay. See, I. I think you guys are looking at it from. You not looking at it from a team perspective. You're not looking at. From a competitive perspective. Okay. You work a regular job, Ocho, you know, hey, well, hey, I'm tired. I ain't going into work today or I'm. Yeah, I got, I'm gonna, I'm gonna leave work. You can't do that in the NFL. You can't. Yeah, because you, you can, but they gonna get you up out of there.

[D]

Yeah,

[C]

don't get you up out of there. It's really that simple, Ocho. It's really that simple? Yeah. And the mere fact, Ocho, you a rookie and having a team meeting to have to talk to you, I've never, I honestly Ocho, I've never heard that before.

[D]

Right.

[C]

You played a long time. I played a long time. And we stayed around the game. I've never heard of a team having to have a meeting to talk to a. A rookie.

[D]

Not. Not that position. And a quarterback not at that position. No, absolutely not. That's the one position you shouldn't have to worry about. You shouldn't have to worry about.

[C]

No, but you can't. Everybody can be replaced.

[D]

Right.

[C]

You just hope it comes later than sooner.

[D]

Sooner.

[C]

Yeah, but they will, they'll eat that money. Whatever they gave him 30 million guarantee. They'll eat that and write it off.

[D]

Absolutely.

[C]

We've them teams, they take on 80 million, 100 million dead cap.

[D]

They don't care.

[C]

They don't care.

[D]

They don't care.

[C]

They don't. Hopefully he bounces back and, and gets an opportunity. Sometimes Ocho, you have to, you know, you have to go through something to, to really appreciate it. I think he really appreciates the game of football now. He, he dealt with some injuries. The shoulder injury, you know, the freak accident with the band. Pops him in his eye fractures oral and he has a vision issues after that. I think his, his agent said everything division is, is healthy, is healed now, everything is good to go. But maybe this is the wakeup call that he needed. I sure hope so. Yeah, I sure hope so. I think he got put in, he got put in a bad situation. I thought he was a project coming out, watching him at Florida. Yeah, yeah, I understand all the measure with oo you talking about somebody 6465, 245 running 44, could throw the ball standing, long jump, all vert. All of that.

[D]

That's a great.

[C]

All that stuff does not equate to playing the quarterback position.

[D]

Yeah, that's a great estimate.

[C]

Who cares? Let me ask you a question. What are you gonna be doing? The Superman jumping over the top right now if you go. If you got a. Something like the tush push with Jaylen hurt, 600 pound squat comes into effect.

[D]

Right.

[C]

Or the quarterback with a 40 inch vertical. What good Is that gonna do me? Unless he at the one yard line going over the top like Walter Payton.

[D]

Right, you're right. Right. But listen, that was a good project to have based on the measurables that it was a great project to have. It just. I. I don't think they. Oh, I. I can't say they didn't give him time to develop because they did their due diligence.

[C]

Let me ask you a question.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

They still fix it on your grandma house? When you ask Chauncey. Did you put Chauncey up? You couldn't move right back in there, could you? Nah, because it was a project. You see, he was a project and they tried to get him to play right away.

[D]

Right.

[C]

You didn't develop it. So now if you take time, possibly develop him the right way. You said he was a project. Everybody said he was a project.

[D]

Yeah, they ain't got that kind of patience though.

[C]

Well, you should have left him alone.

[D]

Hey, they don't have that kind of patience.

[C]

We should left him alone.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

If Ocho, I get a car. Ocho, this is a fixer upper. What I look like trying to drive it when it put me downside the road on the interstate and I'm mad. Man, this man, Ocho, this mofo put me downside the road.

[D]

Well.

[C]

Oh, you said it was a fixer upper. Yeah. So that means you got to take time to fix it up. He's a project. That means you got to invest time in him to get him up to par.

[D]

But they can invest time because the longer you wait. You understand what's coming up soon after that third year?

[C]

I do. Boy, they ain't let Patrick Mahomes play his first year. He damn sure can wait.

[D]

Yeah,

[C]

You moved him up. I. It's hard for me to see a scenario, Ocho. Now I don't know and, and, and, and who. I forget who was in front of him, but it's hard for me to believe based on what he was when he actually got in the game. He had shown you enough in training camp and mini camps and OTAs, right? Yeah. This guy deserves to start right now. It's just hard for me to see that scenario. And so when I look at it like that, they didn't do him, they didn't do it any favors. And, and he didn't do himself any favors. Yeah, you got it. That position, you got to know everything. Front wasn't backwards. Every position you got to know what you're doing. You got to know what everybody on. You got to know the Offensive line, man. Hey, look at man supposed to be going rip, but the man lives this. And let's throw hot. Let's throw hot at the guy coming in my face, not the guy that's going to drill me in the back. Not only do you got to know what pause. Not only do you got to know what you have to do. Not only do you have to know what the quarterback. You have to do what, what the entire offense. You better know what that defense doing.

[D]

Oh, yeah, you got to.

[C]

You better know what they doing, Ocho.

[D]

You got to.

[C]

But I just hope the young man. I hope the young man finds a home. Somebody has some patience and. And he develops that. Somebody develops him. But see, the problem is, Ocho, is that if I trade for him, I got to take the contract. Yeah, I like him. I ain't in love with him. I like it. I mean, man, man, I. Man, I like. Man, I like this outfit. If it was 500 cheaper. I like the quarterback, Ocho, If I could get him at minimum, so. But I think. I think the first, like the first fight. The contracts are guaranteed, so.

[D]

Yeah. Yep. It is what it is. I wish. I wish him the best, though. I. I hope you find. Find somewhere, you know, where he can develop. And what he has to do is. Is. Is he has to make football his number one priority. I don't think football was the number one priority. It wasn't from what I'm hearing. It wasn't. I.

[C]

He.

[D]

He has his. His. His past, his other passions, and he's putting those other passions before the game of football.

[C]

Not when you young coming in get you about. Get you about 10 years in the league.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Then, Tommy, if you go back and look at most of these guys, they ain't really do nothing till they was really, really established.

[D]

Right.

[C]

You got to win something first, bro. You can't be trying to get in all the commercials and you ain't won nothing. Right. I get it. You know, everybody. Oh, man, you man gotta have something, man. You got to do something. You can't be football 24 7. Well, if you play that position and you want to be good at it, it better be.

[D]

And everything. Everything else will take care of itself after that.

[C]

There you go. Oh, Joe Puka, Nakua and Cooper cup are training together this off season. Take a look at this.

[D]

Wait, what month we in?

[C]

We in February.

[D]

February.

[C]

I ain't start. I didn't start. I took off. I took off. I didn't start. I didn't start back until probably like March 10th.

[D]

Yeah. I mean, I didn't start back till March either. I mean, that's kind of early time.

[C]

Let your body rest.

[D]

Anybody.

[C]

Puka caught 129 balls. Oh, he caught that many? So how many times did. Did he get hit and he didn't catch it?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

So that's another 10. That's another 15, 20.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

That's 150 times you done hit the ground and somebody fell on top of you, man. Let your body heal, guys. Ah, man.

[D]

Yeah. I don't know. Hey, they're great. They great at what they do. Maybe they're starting off slow, gradually. Maybe not doing any football stuff.

[C]

Just do that. Look slow to you.

[D]

Keep not. It was moving.

[C]

Exactly, exactly. Man, I let my body heal, Ocho. I. I mean, look. Cause I really didn't start running Ocho until late March.

[D]

April. Right.

[C]

I didn't want Ocho. What good is me peaking in June and I don't go to camp to the damn. Damn near the end of July.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

In the season. Not till September.

[D]

Right. And obviously. Oh, obviously, maybe you want to get the body rolling and get the body in somewhat of a groove for the off season program and. But that's not. That's not till April.

[C]

Yes. Cause the, the, like, the first camp was gonna be like the end of April. Oh. So I felt, I mean, no more than what we do. And it's not like we doing a whole lot. I figured if I start ap, you know, the last week of March, give me a good month, I'm good to go, Right. What for all what we're gonna do now, obviously training camp, that's a whole different story. But I, I believe these guys need. And that's what I said. Don't you remember? I told you, I said, oh, yo, these guys ain't. Ain't giving their body a chance to recover.

[D]

Yeah. Yeah,

[C]

Ocho. Time to play. A fade presented by prize picks. Cade Cunningham, 36 combined points and assists, so he'll have at least 36. When you combine the points and assists, he's averaging about. Ooh, that's gonna be close because he's averaging. He's averaging 20, 25 and a half, and he's averaging like nine and a half assists. So that's 36. I'm gonna say. Yeah, they ain't got nobody to DM up. Jared Allen will have at least 25 points and rebounds combined.

[D]

Yeah, he's six, eight, He's. He's seven feet tall.

[C]

Yeah, but they got Jalen during, so they got somebody to match him.

[D]

Hey, Dirt I do. We're doing about 6 11, huh?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Damn.

[C]

But they ain't got no other big other than him because I don't think Stu back yet. When does Isaiah Stewart come back? Detroit's clean. Detroit? Is that Cleveland? Okay, I'm gonna go under for Jared Allen. Jose Alvarado, man. Y' all get his man tell me he gonna have at least two steals combined. Blocks and steals.

[D]

Hey, Alvarado the hustle, man. He'd be all over the place.

[C]

He be coming up from behind, man, every time. Yeah, yeah. He gonna get somebody. I would say yes. More shades finally back. He's been cleared to return. OKC versus Denver. He'll have at least 28 1/2 points.

[D]

I'm going. Yeah, absolutely.

[C]

You have more. I'm going more.

[D]

First game back too.

[C]

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[D]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Huh?

[C]

What's up?

[D]

Ask it hit me too.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

In. In the chat, I got just. I got something. Just think about this real quick.

[C]

Uhhuh.

[D]

I'm not going to tell a joke, but I got. I got something that gonna make you think if the early bird gets the worm, right?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Why the hell don't the worm just wake up later?

[C]

Well, I'll get. I. The early bird get the worms, but I don't want worms. So I'm gonna get up even earlier. Okay.

[D]

I would just think about that. I would think I got another one. But I'll wait till we get a few questions in.

[C]

Okay. Wazoo enjoyed the bowling content. Y' all appreciate that. Oh, you enjoyed seeing me get hurt, huh? Egg Jordan, Scott Ocho keep three, cut seven. Great wide receiver dishes to is getting stage to stays. Devonte stays. Calvin Johnson stays. Julio Staves, Steve Smith staves. So. Oh, you only keep three. We gotta cut seven. Well, TO is absolutely staying. Megatron is absolutely staying. But then you get Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Andre Johnson, Tyreek Hill, Devonte Adams, Julio, Steve Smith, D Hop. I'm taking Tio and Calvin Johnson. You get the last one.

[D]

And what's C you got.

[C]

You get to keep three. It's 10 wide receivers. You keep three, we keeping t and we keeping Megatron. So now only one other receiver can be kept is either Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Andre Johnson, Tyreek Hill, Devonte Adams, Julio Jones, Steve Smith or Andre DeAndre Hopkins.

[D]

Oh my God.

[C]

Yep. So we got to and who to and Megatron.

[D]

Okay. We already have or we already got size and speed. I'mma go. I'm going go with Tyreek Hill to give, give, give Give us a different dynamic based on the other two.

[C]

I'm leaning towards to we already got to I mean a Julio or devonte.

[D]

You got Julio. You already got two big. Two big. Two big big receivers already.

[C]

I don't care nothing about no size.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

I'm talking about who I can throw the ball to it. I know they're gonna make them plays.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

I take another to if he was available. The hell you talking about? To your absolutely staying right right. Man, that's tough.

[D]

Yeah that's. That's a good. That's a good list.

[C]

T.O. got a. T.O. got 153 touchdown catches. Over a thousand catches, over what, 15,000 yards. I wish Julio could have stayed two more years in Atlanta. Oo he.

[D]

He'll be up there. And.

[C]

And the only.

[D]

The only reason they let him go is just because of the injuries. Yeah, they got sick of, you know, being hurt, but man, he was the animal boy. Oh my goodness.

[C]

So you take it you taking Tyreek?

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Just. Just to mix it up a little bit. All right.

[C]

Led Zeppelin rules Laker excuses. They lost to it to the sorry Suns. I mean when somebody loses, you explain why they lose. Okay. I guess the Patriots are sorry even though they lost in the super bowl, but they sorry the Rams lost in the championship game. You don't want an explanation of what we think happened. Right. That's not excuse. But hey, I get what you're saying bro. Kaleidoscope. Lakers can't win a a ship with Luke and Ruse in the back backcourt. Even if post LeBron era, no defense. Reeves should go to a Manu Jamal Crawford six man type of role. They're not winning. And I agree with you Kaleidoscope because they can't play defense. I can't. And they two. They two. Two guys ain't winning. You look at the teams that are really good. They deep. Look at Detroit, look at okc, Denver when they're healthy. The Knicks, Boston, the deep two guys ain't winning no more. Nevin, Ben Verges. Do you think Palinka needs to let go this coming season? Also should Luca walk away in 2028? I think Luca needs to go as Lakers don't have assets. Luca want that max contract he missed out on one 340 million dollar contract. I don't think Luke is going to walk away. In 2028, that contract could be 400 million.

[D]

Wait a minute, wait. You said walk away. If he doesn't want to be there, he can get it somewhere else though.

[C]

No, you can't get the fifth. See, what they can give you is a fifth year, right? When you go somewhere else, you can only get the fourth year. Ah, so now that fifth year is 80, you know, 80 million.

[D]

Tough boy.

[C]

Brian BB Gaming. Do y' all like the song Saturday by Shirelle and Alexander o'? Neill? That song is fire. It's so far. Much love.

[D]

Wait.

[C]

Saturday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday.

[D]

Oh, okay, okay, okay. Who. What you know about that? Who said that? What they know about that?

[C]

I think about. Yes, I know. Alexander o' Neal and jbo. Hey uncle. No Joe. Can you wish my homegirl meek A happy 50th birthday? Meek Happy five zero.

[D]

Happy birthday meek.

[C]

Half a century. Congratulations. 50 trips around the sun.

[D]

Oh yeah.

[C]

Hopefully you enjoyed every last one of them. Happy. This is your day. Hopefully you enjoyed it too. Meek. Happy 50th. A 28th style. I remember working in the fields. Lunch was soda and crackers. Absolutely. You know what? Hey, dumb. The malt crackers. You remember those Lance malt crackers? Ocho, they had malt, they had knee cock, they had the cheese crackers and they had chocolate lunch.

[D]

I remember though. All I remember is the Ritz crackers. Unk. In the. In the pack.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Wrist crackers. Oh. What you call the sleeve. Why are you laughing? Why you laughing? Huh?

[C]

They came with a pack.

[D]

Yeah. Like a box of four. Is a box. Four sleeves.

[C]

We had. We had to. We had the box and it had the two sleeves inside.

[D]

No, we had four sleeves in ours.

[C]

Was it?

[D]

Yeah, it's four sleeves in the. In the, in the. In the package.

[C]

Are you sure? Yeah, I'm thinking maybe three.

[D]

N. It's four. Because I. I can.

[C]

How many sleeves, Chad? How many? Somebody say you didn't know about them knee. But you had the mall crack, you had the malts, you had the neo, you had the cheese crackers and they had chocolate lunch. The chocolate ones with the white filling.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Man, I ate so many Ritz crackers. Figs, huh? Yeah. Oo, you right. It's four sleeves.

[D]

Yeah. I used to eat them though, back in the day when I. When I had no. I ain't had no cash. Go get them Ritz crackers. When you can fill up on them. Hey, I eat one, sleep you. Hey, hey. You know that. What's the potato chip? You can't. You can. You can't just eat one, Lace. That's the same thing with them wrist crackers. You start on the pack before you look up. You ate the whole sleeve.

[C]

Yeah, the only ones. I didn't like them cream cheese and chives. Jordan, this right here.

[D]

No.

[C]

No. What? Where the hell they go, biz?

[D]

I ain't never seen that. Yeah, we had. We ain't had that. We ain't had that.

[C]

Y' all have that chat. Did y' all have these like, these right here?

[D]

They don't look like they even salted. Huh?

[C]

They cheat. Yeah, they peanut butter.

[D]

Oh. Oh, hell nah.

[C]

They come in. They ain't come in packs like that when I was a kid. What the hell, man? Y' all got everything. They got everything but Ritz. My mom worked at the Bisco for like, 30 plus years. So we got Ritz, Crackers, Chips Ahoy, Fig Newtons.

[D]

Oh, you know I. Fig Newtons, boy. Now we talking.

[C]

Whatever. What else they had at Nabisco? Ritz crackers, Chips Ahoy, Fig Newtons, man.

[D]

Y'.

[C]

All. Somebody talking about them chives and cheese here, man. You must be. You must be Ash, homeboy. Cause that's what she going for. Oh, yeah. She like pimento cheese. Ocho, you eat pimento cheese?

[D]

Who.

[C]

Pimento cheese?

[D]

No, I never heard of that. Only cheese I get is on McDonald's.

[C]

No, I can't. The big Newton's hit.

[D]

Yeah, now. Now we talking Fig Newtons, Chips Ahoy.

[C]

Hold on.

[D]

But Chips Ahoy, what I do with mine, I get about six. I put them in the microwave on for about 12 seconds. Yeah, nice glass of milk, man. Stop playing.

[C]

Oreos. That's what Nabis. Oreos.

[D]

Oreos. Yeah, Oreos. You gotta dip your Oreos in milk, man.

[C]

No, I'd be up all night.

[D]

Oh, that's right. That's right. You. You.

[C]

You and animal crackers. You remember animal crackers?

[D]

I remember animal crackers. They were. Hey, they dry. They dry as. Huh?

[C]

Man, they got the third. They got the. The two packs of Oreos.

[D]

Yeah. Hey, the animal crackers.

[C]

The two cookies in a pack. Huh?

[D]

Remember the. Or animal crackers used to come in a little pack? The little. The little box. The little box.

[C]

Yeah. The barn and baby. Yes, absolutely, I remember that.

[D]

Remember them days?

[C]

Those are good days. OO Those are good days. Bashore show. Oo. I'm in Charlotte. How did you like The Nana. So, Morrison. Soul food.

[D]

Oh, man. Listen, I'm gonna be right back at Nana again in May. May 27th to June 1st. I'm in Carrie. I mean, I'm in Carrie for the TST soccer tournament. I mean, I'm be playing with North Carolina. Huh?

[C]

North Carolina.

[D]

Yeah. Yeah. I'll be right back at Nana's every day. Boy, Nana's good. They. They told me I also have to try Rollick Ralia Soul Kitchen.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And there's another soul food spot by the name of Kale's. If I'm not mistaken, I might be saying it wrong. Mistake me if I'm wrong, but I'm gonna be there for a few days, so I'm gonna be in Carrie, and I'm hit every soul food spot I can. Bananas was the real deal.

[C]

I've been. We went to Raleigh twice. We have time. We in and out. We fly. We fly that morning.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

We out that afternoon. Okay, but I. We. We gotta try something. We. I want to try Dustin. We got to try destination Smokehouse Ocho.

[D]

What's that?

[C]

That's terrorism.

[D]

Oh, yeah? Where's that? Where's that, huh?

[C]

In Marietta. I thought it was pronounced Marita, but it's pronounced Marietta, I guess in Georgia. Marietta, Georgia. No, it's in California.

[D]

Oh, damn. That's.

[C]

That's why. But it's spelled different. Yeah, but the Marietta is north of Atlanta. Okay, we got to try that D7.777. If Ocho keep wearing them pants, they gonna walk out the door by themselves and get a driver's license. Oh, I ain't got him.

[D]

I got on all white today. You see. Hey, I. I put. I put my cheetah pants in the cleaners. Huh?

[C]

Right.

[D]

Yeah, they in the cleaners.

[C]

Finally.

[D]

I'm gonna have on tomorrow, though.

[C]

Oh, Lord have mercy.

[D]

Hey, hey. UN.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Hey, if practice makes perfect and nobody's perfect, then why practice?

[C]

That's a good. Well, I don't think you. You don't practice till you get it right. You practice and so. Till you don't get it wrong.

[D]

Ah. Okay. Okay.

[C]

I love. I used to love practice.

[D]

Yeah, me too. Me, too. Me, too.

[C]

What you laughing at, Ash? TS Car Wash Detail Service. Jokic MVP is going to make that 65. He can only miss two games. What you laughing at? Oh, I think he got. Did he. Did they play tonight? Did we miss something about yoke? I don't think they played tonight. They played last night. I think they played last night. Didn't they beat who they beat last night? They beat Boston. Maybe Boston last night. I tell you, the first team we need to be able to be talking about is the Hornets. Boy, the Hornets been on fire lately. I mean, he blew the doors off the Pacers. I mean, that might not be saying much. Spurs cooking again. The Rockets. KD went off. They were down big, and KD just went crazy, dropped 40. So King Journey. Oo, sell me that super bowl jacket Kristen gave you live on the show.

[D]

Oh, no, I like that. That was. That was dope. That was dope. I gotta say that.

[C]

Benny_k24uncan. Ocho, with the World cup coming, who are you rooting for? And see y'. All. Are you attending any games? Who you room for, Ocho? Oh, America.

[D]

I mean, usa. That's a good choice. I hope we can get past the quarterfinals. For me, I'm rooting for Haiti. That's my dark horse to. To. To make it, hopefully out of that group. I know it's crazy. They play Morocco, they have to deal with Brazil, but I'm hoping they can. They can do something and. And shock the world in a sense. But actually rooting for the team with the most depth, top to bottom, would probably be France. And I. I probably got France taking the whole thing.

[C]

Don't do destination. Look them up first. Okay, we'll look them up.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

Me and Ocho got to check out some soul food restaurants.

[D]

Yeah, there we go. There we go. There we go.

[C]

The big pancakes, the golden thing. But I don't know. But Ocho don't really like pancakes, Ocho. Like, I eat it.

[D]

I eat it. Ihop every day like a king. Like, when I want to treat myself and I don't go to McDonald's, I eat it. IHOP, you know, that's. Yeah, I'm. I'm a pancake person. And listen, a lot. A lot of people don't like Cracker Barrel, but I like Cracker Barrel. I get the mama's breakfast from Cracker Barrel with the heated syrup and the biscuit. Man, man, stop playing. I got another one. Hey, Chat. Hey, Chat. Can the Chat hear me?

[C]

Yeah, they can hear you.

[D]

Hey, Chad, I can hear you, right? Think about this, right?

[C]

Yes.

[D]

If somebody is gay, right? Do you think it's possible to sleep six hours straight

[C]

if somebody is gay, Right. Can they sleep. Sleep six hours straight?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

I'm confused.

[D]

I know. You got to think about it, huh?

[C]

Oh, lord. Oh, you slow, man. Hey, did Ash get it?

[D]

Did Ash get it right away?

[C]

Yes. Silver spoon and got Michelin star rating. James. No, they won the James Beard Award. Did you see that ash in Inglewood? I never got a chance to eat there. I guess that's gonna have to be on our menu to be on our menu too. Please make sure you hit that like button. Please make sure you hit the subscribe button and go follow us on the Nightcap wherever you get your podcast feed from. We would like to thank each and every one of you for your support and your continued support. Because you know who I am. I'm your favorite up. And that guy right there finally got on a new change of outfit. Got a new change outfit on tonight. He's from Liberty City, a bingo ring of fame, honorary former pro bowler and an all pro. He's Chad Ocho, Cinco Johnson. Thank you guys again. If you're looking to purchase a ball of shade by Laportier, head over to laportierconac.com if you cannot find it. In a state or city. Near you is a premium VSOP cognac, the best tasting premium VSOP cognac on the market. But don't take my word for it. Try it for yourself, compare it and you'll see we have the best cognac on the market. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I'm unk. He's Ocho. We're off tomorrow. Possibly see you on Saturday, but we'll let you know.

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