Nightcap Hour 2: Quinshon Judkins WEIGHS IN on HC Todd Monken + Claressa Shields BELIEVES she can BEAT a Rolly Romero + Logan Paul VS Le’Veon Bell + Dan Hurley GETS HEATED at REF + Lionel Messi MAKES $70-80M with Inter Miami

Summary

Nightcap – Hour 2 (March 8, 2026)

Hosts: Shannon Sharpe ("Unk") & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson | Produced by iHeartPodcasts & Shay Shay Media

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Episode Overview

In this lively edition of Nightcap, Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson deliver their signature blend of unfiltered, hilarious sports commentary. Key topics include Quinshon Judkins’ take on Browns HC Todd Monken, Claressa Shields’ bold claims against Rolly Romero, the logistics (and bravado) behind a potential Logan Paul vs. Le’Veon Bell bout, Dan Hurley’s sideline ejection, Inter Miami’s blockbuster investment in Lionel Messi, and classic debates about athlete greatness and confidence. The duo also covers fan Q&A with classic wit, touching on relationships, bodybuilding, and animal brawls.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Quinshon Judkins on Browns Coach Todd Monken

• Judkins describes Todd Monken as a "real players coach"—contrasting him with Judkins’ previous, more reserved coach.
  • Quote: “He was just super communicative of what he wanted from the team, what his goal is...he knows exactly what he wants and he has a vision...” (00:44)
• Discussion: Ochocinco and Sharpe note that every coach has a different style but warn that “the honeymoon phase” fades when the season starts.
  • Shannon Sharpe: “It’s gonna be even keel until y’all don’t win no games. And then watch how much hell he raises.” (03:32)
• Tone: Light-hearted skepticism about glowing early reviews for new NFL coaches.

2. Jordan Davis’ Eagles Contract Extension

• Sharpe lauds Davis’ transformation from a “two-down player” to “the highest paid nose tackle.” (03:57)
• Ochocinco and Unk puzzle over whether a team can afford two highly paid defensive tackles and speculate on Jaylen Carter’s upcoming contract.
  • Ochocinco: “Have you ever seen a scenario where both D tackles are paid?” (05:55)
  • Sharpe: “No, I haven’t.” (06:01)

3. Claressa Shields Claims She Can Beat Rolly Romero

• Claressa Shields asserts she could beat Rolly Romero, highlighting her size, reach, and boxing skills. (06:40)
  • Shields: “I’m way taller than him, way longer than him, and got better boxing skills.”
• Sharpe firmly rejects the idea of a woman beating a man in a sanctioned fight, citing biological differences.
  • Shannon: “There is not a woman...that when it comes to physical...UFC, boxing...a woman is not beating a man. That’s why they have women’s sport and men’s sport.” (07:20)
• Ochocinco admires Shields' mindset: “The fact that she even thinks she can is one of the reasons why she is as great as she is.” (08:10)
• Extended riff: Hosts compare the confidence needed for greatness to “delusion,” referencing Serena Williams’ admission she’d lose to top male tennis players (14:08).

4. The Delusional Athlete Mentality

• Ochocinco: “Being delusional a little bit is a part of what makes you great at what you do, even if you can’t do it.” (14:01)
• Sharpe: Draws a line between healthy confidence and dangerous delusion—applies this to both athletes and “couch Olympians.” (11:06)
• Running Gag: Average fans thinking they could beat wild animals or win gold medals—hosts repeatedly poke fun at fan delusions. (10:24, 19:58, 20:21)

5. Logan Paul vs. Le’Veon Bell “Million Dollar” Boxing Beef

• Sharpe recounts Logan Paul’s public challenge to fight an NFL player with his own $1 million at stake.
  • Sharpe: “He wants a million-dollar bet. But we run rounds until a person quits—no need for your judges.” (24:58)
• Ochocinco: Jokes about investing $250,000, expecting double in return: “Are you Don King, boy?” (24:13)
• Skepticism: Sharpe insists ex-NFLers don’t get credit for fighting non-fighters—they should fight real boxers.
  • “You don’t get credit for fighting somebody that doesn’t fight...If you say you’re a fighter...fight somebody that fights.” (25:32)
• On Potential: Both agree Le’Veon vs. Logan would intrigue fans, with respect for both as athletes. (27:53)
  • “I would definitely watch Le’Veon and Logan Paul fight. I would.” (35:46)
• Memorable banter on airfare and airlines to Puerto Rico, should they travel to see the fight (30:04–34:41).

6. Dan Hurley’s Ejection

• Sharpe recaps UConn coach Dan Hurley’s heated double technical and ejection, attributing it to competitive fire. (37:35)
  • “He animated...he from Jersey and you can tell he got that Jersey.” (39:00)
• Discussion contrasts Hurley’s demeanor with coaching legends like Bob Knight (39:08).

7. Lionel Messi’s Massive Inter Miami Paycheck

• Sharpe shares Messi’s $70–80M annual compensation—including merch and media deals. (39:29)
• Ochocinco: Praises Messi’s impact on American soccer, claiming “it’s not enough” for what Messi’s done.
  • “You can’t repay him for that. There’s no amount of money.” (40:47)
• Comparison to Saudi offers—hosts joke Messi’s wife made the final call on staying stateside instead of taking “a billion.” (41:00)

8. Q&A & Memorable Audience Bits

• Fan prompts cover everything from Duke basketball to whether Shields could outbox Ocho, to relationship vs. Super Bowl difficulty, to AFC North competition:
  • “What’s harder, winning a Super Bowl or maintaining a long-term relationship?” (44:11)
    Sharpe: “Both require immense sacrifice...but I’d say Super Bowl. But neither is easy.” (44:54)
  • On being a bodybuilder: Ochocinco claims he could be an IBF pro; Sharpe shuts him down with love and jokes about Ocho’s Waffle House diet. (56:29–57:28)
  • Animal fights: Sharpe again hammers home the point—no human, not even a 6’2” 180 lb. guy, beats a chimp or a silverback gorilla. (59:23–60:39)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On coaches and first impressions:
  • “Coaches, when they first get to a team, boy, they like politicians...They act like they don’t even know you once they get in the building.” —Ochocinco (03:05)
• On athlete confidence:
  • “There’s a fine line between confidence and delusion. That, in and of itself, is a damn skill.” —Shannon Sharpe (11:06)
• On women vs. men in pro fighting:
  • “Even when [Serena Williams] was at her best, they said, ‘Serena, you think you could beat a man?’...Serena, flat out, ‘No.’ Not a 200th-ranked man.” —Shannon Sharpe (14:08)
• On bodybuilders then vs. now:
  • “Today’s bodybuilder can’t touch the old school...I think it’s a situation where guys, they use more machines. That barbell gives you that hard, grainy look.” —Shannon Sharpe (52:39)
• Fan Q&A gold:
  • Fan: “I think I can take on a small silverback easily.”
  • Sharpe, instantly: “You can’t even beat the chimpanzee, let alone a silverback.” (59:23)

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Important Segment Timestamps

| Topic | Timestamp | |-----------------------------------------------------|---------------| | Quinshon Judkins on Todd Monken | 00:41–03:55 | | Jordan Davis Eagles contract | 03:57–06:28 | | Claressa Shields vs. Rolly Romero conversation | 06:34–19:02 | | Athlete “delusion,” animals, and gold medals | 10:24–20:55 | | Logan Paul vs Le’Veon Bell boxing challenge | 22:48–29:27 | | Dan Hurley’s heated ejection | 37:35–39:08 | | Lionel Messi’s massive Inter Miami deal | 39:29–41:25 | | Q&A (Super Bowl vs. marriage, bodybuilders, animals)| 44:11–60:39 |

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Tone & Style

Shannon and Ocho keep things casual, teasing, and authentic. They blend first-hand athlete insight with hilarious skepticism, always willing to clown themselves, athletes, and delusional fans.

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Takeaways for Listeners

• The show mixes serious insight (on coaching, contracts, debates about athlete greatness) with relentless banter and classic sports fan humor.
• There’s a strong recurring motif: The importance of confidence in sports—but also recognizing the biological and practical realities at play.
• Listeners finish the episode not only up-to-date on hot headlines, but also treated to classic athlete stories, sharp takes, and a few philosophy lessons on mindset and greatness.

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Transcript

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[Unk]

Sticking to the AFC North Quinshon Judkins says new Brown head coach Todd Monkin has been a refreshing surprise Ocho, let's

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

take a listen to what different coaches

[Ocho]

over the past couple years.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Have you heard from your new head

[Ocho]

coach Todd Monkin yet? Bro, I have.

[Quinshon Judkins]

And bro, honestly like it's not what I thought it would have been like. I thought it was going to be like more so like cause my past coach bro, he was like really even kill bro, like super quiet. I thought I was going to get that from Coach Monkin. But it wasn't that like he was like a real players coach bro. Like you know, like give me a hug like all that bro. So he was just super communicative of what he wanted from the team, what his goal is, what his objective is, what he want to come in and do and you know, he knows exactly what he wants and he has a vision and I think that's what's important as a head coach and especially being vocal about it too. I think that's what matters.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I respect the crisp as a shot at Stefanski.

[Ocho]

I wouldn't say it's a shot of Stefanski. Everyone has their coaching styles, everyone has their approach and height, how they how they talk to players. Todd Monkin probably is a players coach. Maybe he has a different energy about himself and Suffangsi carries himself in a much different way than Monkin does. And so therefore you will get different reactions when you have a coach that's somewhat mild mannered someone, someone that's even keel as as he said, someone who's not not very very jubilant about the way about their coaching style. And maybe Todd Monkin is just different. So for him it's refreshing because it's something that he's not used to being that he's just getting into the NFL and that's all he's known so far during his short NFL career is what he saw from the Fanskin now You get Todd Monkin, who's completely different. Different approach, a different way of doing things. So to him, that is refreshing.

[Unk]

Yeah, they gonna do say all the right thing till they get your ass in there. And then watch how they behave. It's just like when you go to college.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, oh, you're great.

[Unk]

Oh, your son is unbelievable. Yeah, we're so glad to have.

[Ocho]

Oh, you know, they say your dream.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Johnson, get your ass over here. Hello. You just told my grandma you were glad to have me over here. Now you told me get my ass over here. Get lied and run and all this.

[Ocho]

Hey, listen, hey, coaches, when they first get to a team, boy, they like politicians, boy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Ocho]

Hey, they like politicians. When college coaches come to visit you at your house, politicians, boy, you get there, boy, they act like they don't even know you.

[Unk]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Once they get in the building, they good. Everything changed.

[Unk]

Oh, Jose, like you said as a politician, they lie to everybody.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So they get whatever story they don't told you, they don't told a hundred other guys that same lie.

[Ocho]

It's a nice script too. Nice script. They just changed the name. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And plus, yeah, hey, it's gonna be Ev Kill until y' all don't win no games.

[Unk]

And then watch how much hell he raised.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah, because right now you undefeated. You undefeated right now. Yeah, everybody's saying the right thing. Everybody's excited and I get all of that.

[Unk]

But guess what?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They're going to pump them footballs up and they're going to kick them, kick them off in September.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah, you're going to have to play.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You will have to play. The Eagles and defensive tackle Jordan Davis have reached an agreement on a three year, $78 million extension tying him to the Eagles for the next four seasons. The the deal includes 65 million guarantee and makes Davis the highest paid no tackle in the NFL. The number 13 pick in 2022, Davis

[Unk]

was entering his fifth year option season worth nearly $13 million. I've been very impressed with this young man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, he was phenomenal at his combine day.

[Unk]

He was a phenomenal player at uga. But to see what he's done to his body, the way he's taking it

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

serious, the way he's gotten himself in shape and, and the way he plays hard.

[Unk]

Because at first no show, they just played him on.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He's just a two down player. Yeah, he's just a two down player. Now he's turned himself in, he's gotten his body right and he's turned himself into a hell of a football player. And he should have went to the damn Pro Bowl.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I forget who they took over him, but he should have went to the damn Pro Bowl. Cause he had a hell of a season to be told. He outplayed his car.

[Unk]

He outplayed his teammate. Yeah, he was better than Carter this year, Ocho.

[Ocho]

Yeah, this year. Yeah, he was. He was this, this, this also brother Lori. And, and how we have done a great job over the years of striking while it's hot and early.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Striking while it's hot and early. But it also leads me to believe. Are you really going to pay duty? 2d tackles. Then you have Cooper John, then you have desean. I mean, Keon Mitchell also coming up. So I'm. I'm curious what's going to happen with that and with it being Jaylen Carter as good as he is, wouldn't he have to supersede that contract of.

[Unk]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Or am I tripping based on, based on what he's done?

[Ocho]

Yes.

[Unk]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

If I'm not mistaken, I think he's a two time Pro bowl player. An all pro.

[Unk]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, he'll probably get. He go get double what he got.

[Ocho]

Yeah. So. So you. Have you ever seen a scenario where both D tackles are paid?

[Unk]

No, I haven't.

[Ocho]

So that, that's, that's, that's, that's what I was, that's what I was thinking.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, you see Dallas got a

[Unk]

bunch of D tackles that's making 20 plus million dollars a year.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They got what, three of them? Yeah, they got Quinny and they got clean.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Unk]

So, no, I don't see a scenario.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, Lord have mercy.

[Unk]

I hate that we have to talk about stuff like this, Ocho, but here we go.

[Ocho]

What happened?

[Unk]

Marissa Shields believes she beat Rolly Romero in a fight. Let's take a listen to what she told Justin.

[Ocho]

Boy, is there a male champion, regardless of weight, that you believe you can I beat Rollie?

[Clarissa Shields]

He's the world champion. Rollie Ramirez. Listen, it's not about. I think Rollie is very unorthodox. He's very strong. Right. But I'm way taller than him, way longer than him, and got better boxing skills.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

The. How about one of his punches, though?

[Clarissa Shields]

Did you not hear what I said? It's hard for somebody smaller to hurt somebody that's bigger. I walk around at 185, he fights at 140. Or is it 47? It's one.

[Ocho]

He said 140. 147.

[Clarissa Shields]

But I'm just saying though, like when you. And then like with his skill set, he can't be.

[Ocho]

Oh, what you think, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, Ocho, it's a man. It is a man. Women. Stop this. Clarissa, we love you. We. I've sat down and interviewed you. We've had you on the show. Stop this nonsense. There is not a woman that when it comes to physical ufc, right, Boxing, whatever, if it's, if it's physicality involved, a woman is not beating a man. That's why they have women's sport. That's why they have men's sport, right? Can we stop this? Come on now, man. I love Clarissa. You're not beat. No, man.

[Ocho]

You know, you know what I do like, you know, it's that confidence she has. Being as brash as she. She is making a statement like that is why she's one of the best, which is why she's the greatest of all time. Just. Just a thought.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Even you can do that and still not beat Ocho.

[Ocho]

Even. Even. No, I'm just saying. I'm not saying she could win. I'm just saying the fact that she even thinks she can is one of the reasons why she is great as she is. I don't feel he can beat me. Why? Because he's unorthodox. Why? Because I see the flaws in his fighting style. So I think if I do A, B and C, I can win that fight. In hindsight, reality for us, knowing you're not being no man. No, you're not.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, she won't see the punch you talking, but see you talking about another you looking at it like 140 pound woman hitting you. That's 140 pound man hitting you, which is the equivalent of a 200 plus pound woman hitting you.

[Ocho]

Right?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And the way he can put punches together.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh my goodness. No. And I don't want to see it. No, no, no.

[Unk]

I love Clarissa Shields.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And so I, I. Look, I'm not no hater, but I just know physics and there's a reason if that was the case, Ocho. What. What sport that's. That's physically involved that they allow women and men to compete together?

[Ocho]

None.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

There's a reason why. There's a reason why they every and everybody's up in arms and rightfully so when we get these trans a man that says, okay, I'm a woman now, or tucking hormones Detroit.

[Ocho]

No, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You can't. It's not possible. It is not possible.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Unk]

Oh my goodness.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Now, so what I guess Asia Wilson gonna say?

[Unk]

Well, you know what?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

In a one on one I can. I can beat Shay or I can beat Luca.

[Ocho]

I could be. Bam. Yeah. Hey, and the funny thing about it is, well, Roly could crack boy.

[Clarissa Shields]

Yes.

[Ocho]

But Rolly can crack. Rollie, catch you with one of. One of them punches, man. Man, it's gonna be.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's just.

[Unk]

It's just physically impossible, right? It's just physically impossible.

[Ocho]

But think about it, though. Think about the mindset. Just the fact that you even think you can in general. Just that. That she has is why she's great at what she does against her opponents in general.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Do you believe 85 to 90% of the people believe they can be a tiger, a lion, a bear, a silverback in a fight. That's the. But you say you like mindset. They say they can beat those animals in a fight.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Unk]

I mean, you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You have casual. People say, what. What sport do you believe you could win a gold medal in? Do you actually got people that sit on their damn couch, eat popcorn, and watch the Olympics, and think they can win an Olympic gold medal in a particular sport?

[Ocho]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I have a positive mindset, but I'm not delusional. There's a fine line between confidence and delusion. That, in and of itself, is a damn skill.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Unk]

Oh, my.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey. You say you think she worse than me.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What?

[Ocho]

But think of you. I think I could whoop. I could whoop everybody. I could do anything.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I could be.

[Ocho]

I could be Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unk]

I'm talking about. Oh, it's not impossible. First of all, there's not a woman

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

that's gonna get into the ring and box a man.

[Ocho]

What? A sparring. What about sparring?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Sparring. You got on hair gear. You got on big gloves. Ain't nobody trying to hurt nobody. Right? The same thing. Pretty soon, y' all gonna say, you know what? Amanda Nunes can beat somebody in ufc. Y' all say the most ridiculous thing just to say it. But if you realize how ridiculous you sound, what woman you know gonna get that is a man. A man. The first thing y' all say, man, you ain't got no business hitting a woman, is you getting a physical confrontation. Ocho, you in the ring. I just. It's just. You know what, Ocho? I feel the same way when they

[Unk]

keep talking about, man, this college team

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

could be the NFL team, our NFL team, or score 100 points.

[Ocho]

And you know what? You know, a team. They always say. They always say, Alabama. When Alabama was really good, when Nick Saban was there, they would be the Cleveland Browns and Brown. The Browns have put up 100 points on them boys. You take Alabama's best team against the worst NFL team, man, they gonna get slaughtered.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes. Like, I mean. I mean, first of all, I only like being like.

[Unk]

When you just say stuff.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Think about it, Ocho.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

When they play golf, the women don't hit from the tips. Why? There's a reason why.

[Ocho]

Right?

[Unk]

Women are great. There have been some great women athletes.

[Ocho]

Very.

[Unk]

Basketball, soccer, softball.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But there's levels in a man. There's a reason why. There's a reason why we separated. That's why we have, you know, volleyball

[Unk]

for men, volleyball for women, soccer for

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

men, soccer for women, softball for women, baseball for men. That's why.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Hey, hey, hey. You know, you know what I think, too?

[Unk]

What is.

[Ocho]

I think, in a sense, regardless of what sport you play, to be great for one, you got to believe. You gotta. You gotta believe in yourself. You gotta believe in your craft. You got to believe in your skill. You got to believe in the work you put in. And I think you got to be a little delusional a little bit.

[Unk]

I think I'll give you a prime example.

[Ocho]

Being delusional a little bit is a part of what makes you great at what you do, even if you can't do it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Even when she was at her best, they said, serena, you think you could beat a man? Serena, flat out, no. No, not a 200. The. The greatest. The greatest woman tennis player ever. No, she said, I'm not beating the 200th ranked man. First of all, you better hope.

[Unk]

You better hope you can get a serve in.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's what you hope, right? But I don't know what.

[Unk]

Clarissa, just keep fighting. Women keep getting those big check paychecks. Beating the hell out of women, that's your claim to fame. Don't you like some.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Don't let somebody gas you up to

[Unk]

say I can beat a man. Well, first of all, they're not gonna sanction it.

[Ocho]

And you know, they go, you know, they gonna spar now, you know, you know they're gonna spar. They gonna spar. They gonna get. They're gonna get in the ring, I guarantee you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, she's far.

[Ocho]

And that's the Ocho, her sparring men.

[Unk]

Yeah, yeah, but Ocho, they not really trying. Ocho, right? Come on.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's like you. You playing your girl. You playing Cambodia basketball. You laughing. You ain't really trying on the LeBron. LeBron playing Savannah. Leroy playing Savannah in basketball.

[Ocho]

Hey, man. Man, I'm.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, but I. I'm just trying to figure out you know what? Oo you think if when they asked that question, she's like, no, she like, I fight women.

[Unk]

I can't beat no man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

A man champion.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

She ain't even said an amateur.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Level you look at, you look at women and women, like I said, the fastest track and field woman high school guys run that time.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, wait.

[Ocho]

Speaking of times, man, you see the young 16 year old running 9 8.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I saw that he had a hurricane behind him, but okay. He still was scooting, though, but don't show. I mean, these kids, they're kidding. Getting fast. I mean, you know kids, these kids now, I mean, hell, if you don't

[Unk]

run, if you probably.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

If you go to Texas, if you don't run 10:3 in Texas, you getting. If you don't run 10:3, you not win first place. You got to be sub 10:3.

[Ocho]

Yeah. That's crazy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

This kid running 10 flat. 999.

[Ocho]

That's crazy. Hey, he flying. But you know how fast 9 and 8 is?

[Unk]

I do know how fast 980 is.

[Ocho]

How does your body even develop that much with that kind of torque and that kind of power to be able to sustain. Mm. That 400 meters at that young age, Your body not even fully developed, baby.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Moving on.

[Unk]

That's somebody talking about, oh, she's the Olympic champ and she got weight on him.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You can tell people that they don't. Don't really understand, like, fighting Ocho.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, y'. All. I tell you what, if y' all get an opportunity, I wish y' all could just don't watch it on tv, because tv, like, when you watch stuff on tv, it don't do it justice.

[Unk]

And.

[Ocho]

And if you're there, go see it in person.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Matter of fact, see it in person. Like when you go to a UFC fight. Oo. And you hear those cracks.

[Ocho]

Cracks, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Or you somebody. Like when that guy. When that. The brother Johnson got hit, and you. And you hear that shot, or when Regan came with an overhand and you hear that shot, or you go to. And you see a guy, how they put punches together.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Then you're like, you know what?

[Ocho]

I don't. I don't think people understand.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They don't.

[Ocho]

What? Rollie in general, if he catch her, Rollie can punch. That's the one thing that he can do. He can crack.

[Clarissa Shields]

He can.

[Ocho]

Whether it's unorthodox or not, whether you don't like his style, whether it looks awkward, whatever it may be, that young bull can punch, and people will Never understand it until you see it in person. Because when you watch it from tv, you're like, well, what the hell is this? Oh, I could beat him. I'd be like, how about.

[Unk]

How about this? Ojo, Clarissa sparred a guy that Rolly ko'd, but he knocked Clarissa down with a check hook.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So the guy that put Clarissa down,

[Ocho]

I think I saw that. I saw that clip. I ran a clip. Yeah, She said she would be Monk.

[Unk]

Don't matter.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Do y' all understand that they the

[Unk]

people hands are lethal weapons?

[Ocho]

Well, oh, you know, once you register that, that's, That's. That's a felony. You touch somebody outside, yes, going to jail.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But y' all don't realize. Y' all don't realize how fast.

[Unk]

Like those punches.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Y' all see the. Recall that man, a punch.

[Unk]

Clarissa going to keep making that money fighting women Fight Baumgartner. Maybe. Hell, I don't know. Maybe Layla Ali.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Layla Bum Gardner Too small.

[Ocho]

There's no way.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I know.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, Carissa, what she walk around at? 185, I think she got down to.

[Unk]

What?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What'd she get down to?

[Unk]

This fight.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

1 155, 165.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Bum gone away at 135, I think.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unk]

She ain't going down that low.

[Ocho]

Yeah, that's impossible.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

From 185 to 135.

[Ocho]

That's not even possible, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's possible. I don't know.

[Unk]

What, she gonna look bad to take

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

that kind of weight off.

[Ocho]

Yeah, that. That's. That's hard.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hell yeah.

[Ocho]

Well, you won't have no damn strength to fight.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Nope.

[Unk]

Zero. No. I don't believe it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But like I said, the mere fact that people think they can beat a

[Unk]

bear, a lion, a tiger, a silverback in a fight, people actually say that. I believe I can beat them. Or I can win a gold medal and in table tennis.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Or I could win a gold medal

[Ocho]

in this table tennis. Man. Stop. Hold on. Remember the discourse. Remember the discourse about the 100 people in one gorilla. Yeah.

[Unk]

You got to get a 100 people. You got to give somebody that doesn't care about their life. Cuz he going to run through the first five or six.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Somebody died after you. After. After you see him bite somebody arm

[Ocho]

completely off or break some

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

after you see that.

[Ocho]

I don't want nobody.

[Unk]

I give prime example. You see, Ocho, when people. It'd be about five or six guys

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

and they gonna jump this one guy.

[Unk]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And he. He KO's one of them.

[Unk]

What do the Rest of them do

[Ocho]

caution to the wind.

[Unk]

So he grabbed that first one.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Then he go, you gonna see the,

[Unk]

he gonna see literally rip his arm off his body. Easy.

[Ocho]

With ease.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Because that's, that's what they do.

[Unk]

I mean, you got to realize they have the, they have the 10 times the strength of an average man.

[Ocho]

Yep.

[Unk]

So.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So whatever the strength of an average man is.

[Unk]

So just think about it. If an average man can be 225

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

and he, he bitching. £2,000, That joker. Think about it now, he ain't for sick. He's sick. Six and a half, 400, 450. All muscle.

[Ocho]

All muscle.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ain't got an ounce of fat on him.

[Ocho]

Yeah, don't nobody want none of that, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Man, y' all see them joke how they be throwing you? You see how they be hitting each other? And that's another 400, 450 gorilla. So what you think a 200 pound man gonna stand up to that?

[Ocho]

And you saw you, I know you saw the clip. The whole world saw that clip with a lady. She watching, she filming it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They're in the zoo fight. Talking about somebody getting there. Break it up.

[Ocho]

You can see the power. You can see the power in the video. And this lady talk about somebody getting in there and stop them. What?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Who? They'll figure it out. Whoever get this ass kicked, better take off running. Cause I, you know, they got zookeeper. They got zoo zookeepers in there. But they ain't getting there breaking that up.

[Ocho]

Absolutely not.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Just like a polar bear or grizzly, they get to fighting. Oh well, they'll figure it out.

[Ocho]

Yeah, it's a rap man.

[Unk]

It's a rap man. Please, Clarissa, don't you let them people fool you up to think you can beat a man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

We're getting closer to seeing Logan Paul and Le'Veon Bell Ocho. Yesterday, my million dollar open bet to fight an NFL player has caused an uproar. Here's an update. Nobody is willing to put a million

[Unk]

dollars in escrow and be flown here to Puerto Rico all expense paid and boxed with three professional judges. They all want to formalize with a streamer, venue, press conference. All that get paid, but not risk their own money. But I don't have time nor interest in that. I want to. I won't step away from WWE to coordinate and train for an event. But if any player wants to actually put up a million dollars in fight at my jail with official referees and judges, show yourselves. That includes you, Le'Veon Bale and. Hey,

[Ocho]

I like that. What you think gonna happen?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, Leon, I might be able to get I. I come up with a quarter meal, but I want 500 in return.

[Ocho]

God damn.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Are you. Are you like, tell me the person that gamble that puts up 250 and

[Unk]

then expect 250 back in return.

[Ocho]

Hold on.

[Unk]

What?

[Ocho]

What H D you. Are you Don King, boy?

[Unk]

Hey, you.

[Ocho]

Are you Don King with it?

[Unk]

Labyrinth said this is what labels bro wants to spar. And that's fine, bro. We can spar if that's what you want to do.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Let's practice and for sure a million dollar bet. But we run rounds until a person then quits.

[Unk]

No need for your judges cameras on for sure.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No need to hide from the public.

[Unk]

Just want to see this logo. Responded 10 eyes, glove, no headgear. 3 minute rounds until someone quit.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

The next weekend, $1 million bet money in escrow.

[Unk]

No judges. You choose the referees down for boxing or mma, just let me know. Deal. We have a contract drawn up and sent.

[Ocho]

I like it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Nah, we want to see this.

[Ocho]

So. But they don't want no cameras, huh?

[Unk]

I don't know.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But my. My problem.

[Unk]

Look, I think Logan Paul is a phenomenal athlete. I think the wrestling and stuff, he and what he and his brother has been able to do in the YouTube space and to be able to create content and made themselves wealthy beyond expectation.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But you don't get credit for fighting

[Unk]

somebody that doesn't fight.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, how much do you weigh? 175, 180? Go fight Benavidez. Go fight Bella. BF.

[Ocho]

Come on.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But you're not no fighter, Ocho. I don't get Ocho. I don't get credit in my prime for catching on a guy that doesn't play db.

[Ocho]

Right, Right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What credit does I get for that? So if you say you're a fighter or you want to fight, you need to fight somebody that fight.

[Ocho]

You know, Le'Veon has a. A background in boxing, so that. Yes, that would be. That would be a decent fight for both of them. You know, I agree both are skilled. Both are taking the craft of. Of getting his.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Taking it seriously.

[Ocho]

Yeah, taking it serious. But the. The. The better beat. Better damn.

[Unk]

Better beer.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Oh, man. They. They. He'd kill them.

[Unk]

Oh, what. What NFL player making 10, 15, $20 million?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They're not boxing in their spare time like that.

[Ocho]

No.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And it's too much for them to risk.

[Ocho]

Yeah, they would. And you know, honestly, no matter who it is, is what, 1500 players in the NFL? Yeah, they probably. I doubt they make it past two minutes, round one.

[Unk]

Oh, for sure.

[Ocho]

I doubt. I don't care how. I don't care how.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They don't know how to breathe. They don't get in there and try to bounce because they see everybody else bouncing back and forth and all you

[Unk]

do is burning energy.

[Ocho]

It's completely different. Completely different. And you don't, you don't train for that

[Unk]

fight, bud.

[Ocho]

Not.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, you don't want to see him fight, bud.

[Ocho]

No, that's not fair. That's unfair.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I think, I think he thought that,

[Unk]

you know, because of what he did with Floyd. I don't know how serious Floyd took it or anything like that, but I

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

mean, hey, I watch it. I watch Leon and Logan Paul fight.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I like it. I like it.

[Unk]

So I don't know.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But I. I think the thing is

[Unk]

he got hurt because Tom Brady called.

[Ocho]

Called him, called him out. His name?

[Unk]

No, he said he was cute.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He said, you know, you do.

[Unk]

It's cute because he said he wwe, he was a outstanding athlete, things of that nature.

[Ocho]

Right?

[Unk]

And you know, Tom, man, look, sometimes

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Tom, forget that he Tom Brady, he gets the artist truth.

[Ocho]

The truth coming from him is sting a little bit now.

[Unk]

Yeah, for sure.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Because he's like, oh, that's cute. He said, but you're not, you're not. No, no, no, no. Not an athlete. But I think, you know, in the wwe, I mean, you watch him, the way he moves.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, he could easily be a full time wwe.

[Ocho]

Absolutely.

[Unk]

He absolutely could.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He's phenomenal in there. And like I said, he and his brothers carved out a nice niche and they, they.

[Unk]

Next weekend. I don't know.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, El bell. Let us know you gonna make this happen, man. Call in the nightcap.

[Unk]

We want to see what's.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What's cracker lacking and see what's going on. Hell, me and Ocho might come down there. We might come down there and do nightcap live from

[Unk]

Puerto Rico.

[Ocho]

Puerto Rico.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Okay, I like that. That's a short flight for me. That's about what. How long the flight from.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I don't know what port. I don't know how close it is to Miami.

[Ocho]

Chad, how far the flight from who

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

you think I am?

[Ocho]

That might be right there. Chad, how long is the flight from Miami to Puerto Rico?

[Unk]

What'd they say? Two hours?

[Ocho]

I'm still chat. Moving slow.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's definitely closer to you.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, it might get. It's definitely. Yeah, Hold on. Oh, it's only one hour. Oh, 45 minutes. Oh, yeah. It's only an hour.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Flights to Puerto Rico, San Juan to Miami takes approximately 2 hours and 42

[Unk]

minutes to 3 hours, covering a distance of 1050 miles. Gang budget carriers like Frontier and Spirit Airlines offer direct flights with fares starting

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

between 60 and $150.

[Ocho]

See that? See Spirit? You see? You see why Spirit is the greatest airline there is. You see that? Spirit take you right there. Puerto rico, less than $150. Come on, man. That's what I'm talking about. Whole nightcap team on Spirit.

[Unk]

Nah, I won't be on Spirit. I think Delta. Let me see if Delta go to Puerto Rico.

[Ocho]

Why would you go on Delta? And you just heard the good deals that Spirit has.

[Unk]

My life ain't about no good deals.

[Ocho]

Spirit is the only airlines that never had any issues. Now, we might have a, we might have a fight or two.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, see, on the road, as a matter of fact, they go right there. Yep. Delta fly directly to Puerto Rico.

[Unk]

Mm. They got cheap flights too.

[Ocho]

How much?

[Unk]

Delta alliance operates numerous flights to San Juan, Puerto Rico, Atlanta, Boston, Detroit, jfk, Minneapolis. So I would probably have to fly from Vegas to Atlanta, Atlanta to Puerto Rico.

[Ocho]

Sound like a lot to me. It's gonna be more than $150.

[Unk]

I got some miles. I use my mileage.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Nah, you ain't got no miles.

[Unk]

Old Spirit.

[Ocho]

Oh, I, I, oh, I got miles. I got, I got.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They probably write your miles down on a piece of paper on a post

[Unk]

it note handed to you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Now they got 550 miles.

[Ocho]

I got about. On. On Spirit. I probably got maybe, maybe 762, 000 miles. I got like a look. Let me check my email. I got about. Should I, should. I should be close to about it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What you fly mainly American, Delta.

[Ocho]

Well, if, if it's me, like for me going somewhere, I'm on spirit now work like having to come here is American or United. But that's, that's not me buying now. You know, if I'm flying out for work, you know, work, they purchase, you know, what they see fit. That's going to get me in on time.

[Unk]

Yeah, I have to use my mileage. I don't know where I can go to use them though.

[Ocho]

Puerto Rico.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You damn miles to go to Puerto Rico. I would go, I would go somewhere. I'm going out of the country. Okay.

[Ocho]

Okay.

[Unk]

I'm gonna see type in where

[Ocho]

and chatgpt. Where should I go?

[Unk]

Where can I go with 1 million?

[Ocho]

One million what? Sky miles.

[Unk]

Yeah, shoot.

[Ocho]

You might want to. We can go to the doctor. We can go to Mexico.

[Unk]

With 1 million frequent flyers miles, you can book a multiple around the world trips, first class, 10 to 12 hour flight return. You can go. I could go to Tokyo, London, in Lux.

[Ocho]

Nah, I'm telling you. Two blessed places for you to go. Either we go to Mexico.

[Unk]

Ain't gonna damn Mexico. Use my airline miles for no damn Mexico.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

The hell.

[Ocho]

All right, what about we go to Haiti? What, you never been. Hey, you never been to Haiti? Well, Haiti.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I ain't never been to Haiti.

[Ocho]

It's beautiful out there, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Use frequent five miles to go to Haiti.

[Ocho]

Yes. You got. You want to go places you've never been before, all that exotic stuff.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

There are a lot of places I ain't never been before.

[Ocho]

You've been to Mexico?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

No, you haven't.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I have. We played a game in Mexico.

[Ocho]

That's not going to Mexico. That's for work. I'm talking about like. Like going.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, I want to say I ain't been a lot of places.

[Ocho]

Come with me to Mexico. No, like, we good. I want to take you to warehouse.

[Unk]

Not good.

[Ocho]

I want to take you to Sinaloa.

[Unk]

No, I only go nowhere.

[Ocho]

Guadalajara.

[Unk]

Nope. I don't need to go nutter either.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm gonna fly Qantas. I'm going. I'm gonna fly.

[Unk]

I'm gonna fly United Emirates, Qantas and Singapore Air.

[Ocho]

Where you going?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Somewhere where I can fly those.

[Ocho]

Nah, that sound like it's too far for me.

[Unk]

I can do something. I can do some things. Nah,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

nah. But I. I would definitely. I would definitely watch Le've on the Logan Paul fight. I would.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

[Unk]

For sure.

[Ocho]

Absolutely.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But I think the one guy didn't. Some guys, Some guys say he'd come down there and fighting.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah, the lineman. I forgot who was.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You saw that too.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Whoever it is, they not Dion Dawkins. It was someone else. I can't. I can't remember his name, but he.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He.

[Ocho]

I saw him on the mitts. I saw him on the mix.

[Unk]

He good.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He good on the mix.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, Dion Dawkins was on the mid. That was Dion Dawkins.

[Ocho]

It was. It was another player too, I think,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

but there's this player here. I think he retired.

[Ocho]

You think?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He said he beat hell out Logan and his brother.

[Unk]

No, I ain't going. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm not going.

[Unk]

I'm not going any place that's. That's close. Dubai's off. You know, we got a whole off on Dubai.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Unk]

Yeah, as a matter of fact, somebody was flying to Dubai. I heard they had to turn the plane around, said no.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Real? Yeah.

[Ocho]

Dude, I wouldn't be flying in that airspace right now anyway.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hell no.

[Ocho]

Yeah, listen, I told you the best place to go.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ocho ain't no who chat. Does anybody use frequent fly miles to

[Unk]

go to Puerto Rico, to go to

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Mexico, to go to Haiti?

[Ocho]

Listen.

[Unk]

No, you use buddy passes.

[Ocho]

Nah, listen, I'm. I'm trying to get you to have the time of your life where you don't have to go that far. You right there.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Every whole objective. I want to go far.

[Ocho]

I. I just want you. I just want you to see my country, man. That's all.

[Unk]

Far from the prying eyes.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Please add another chapter to Yukon coach

[Unk]

Dan Hurley's combative history with officials just as March Madness is approaching. Hurley was ejected from the fourth ranked Huskies 6862 loss to Marquette today after picking up two technical files with one second remaining, Hurley argued that his player was fouled while driving to the basket. With the Huskies trailing 6,462, Hurley approached John Gaffney and gotten his. And got chest. He got in his chest next to the official right shoulder. While voicing his displeasure, Hurley said he never bucked Gaffney, though some replays suggest otherwise.

[Ocho]

Ocho, yo,

[Unk]

he was probably trying to heat. Looked like he's trying to jockey his team. You know, they have a good run, maybe get a one or two seed in the NCAA tournament.

[Ocho]

Yes, sir.

[Unk]

Frustrated. Say it was foul. Guy said no, he wasn't foul.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I didn't see it.

[Unk]

So don't start me the line chat. I gotta. So Chad, if y' all saw it, jump in the chat and said yeah, he was foul or no he wasn't.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, but that's, but that's his history.

[Unk]

He's, he's very. He pick up texts.

[Ocho]

I mean he, he animated.

[Unk]

Yeah. I think he, he from Jersey and you can tell he got that jersey.

[Ocho]

Is he, is he bad as Bob Knight or not?

[Unk]

Not that, no, ain't nobody bad as Bob Knight. Bob Knight was cussing, throwing chairs, punching people, punching coaches, punching his own players. Oh,

[Ocho]

that's funny.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Inter Miami co owner, I guess Jorge Moss.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Unk]

Lionel Messi is paid between 70, 80 million dollars a year. Yeah. Told Bloomberg that's the reason that I need to have sponsors and for them to be world class is because players are expensive.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I pay Messi worth every penny.

[Unk]

But 70 to 80 million a year across everything.

[Ocho]

He get a message, get a piece of everything, huh? Yeah, everything.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Adidas, apple sales, merch.

[Ocho]

He gets a piece of everything. Obviously, we talk about messy. We talk about the great, arguably the greatest soccer player to ever live ever. And, you know, depending on who you ask, but most people would probably go with Messi and what he's done, not only for any Miami, but helping grow the game down here, you know, in the states. And in 70 to 80 million, what Messi has done for the beautiful game down here in the States is not enough. Yeah, it's not enough. I'm just gonna be honest. He makes a lot, but it's not enough for what he's done for us here in the States and what he's done for Inter Miami. You. You can't repay him for that. You can't. There's. There's no amount of money, you know,

[Unk]

So I might have took that Saudi money. You see what they're giving Cristiano Ronaldo.

[Ocho]

Ronaldo. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sure they Messi. They offer Messi a billion.

[Unk]

I did.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They did.

[Ocho]

I saw that Messi billion. And, man, listen, man, his wife was like, not happening,

[Unk]

baby.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Stay right here. I'll be right back.

[Ocho]

I'm sure the decision came down, you know, came down to her. And, dude, he's like, no, not on. Not on the back of my. Back end of my career. We need to be somewhere nice. So, I mean, this. This was fitting.

[Unk]

All right, we're gonna get you out of here on this one. It's time for our final segment of the evening.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's time for Q and A.

[Unk]

J.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

1984.

[Unk]

Out. What's good? Sorry for the loss. Duke, complete domination. We're number one, but don't know what's gonna happen in the tournament. Shaking my head. We hurt.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, man.

[Unk]

Y' all put something on the Tar Heels tonight, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But the best player was out.

[Unk]

Caleb Wilson was out, so I'm not so sure. But, man, man, Cameron Boozer, man.

[Ocho]

God dang, nice, boy. Oh, nice. I. I watched. I watched the Duke game tonight.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He might be better than his dad.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You know, definitely better than his dad at. At the exact same age. Oh, he better than his dad.

[Ocho]

I got a question. This would be a good. If you were to ask Carlos Boozer can he beat his son one on one? Who do you think? Who do you think will win?

[Unk]

I think booze might be a little old now. Knees might not be able to hold.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I think booze, booze, booze, booze might be five years too late.

[Ocho]

Right?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But at the exact same age.

[Unk]

Ain't no question he better than his dad.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Gary Peters.

[Unk]

Clarissa Shields will be Ocho in the ring.

[Ocho]

Me too, Ocho. I'm too sharp, man.

[Unk]

I'm.

[Ocho]

I'm damn near. I'm damn near like amateur slash pro. Hey, I'm gonna be Joe Johnson in basketball. Let's focus on that. Let's focus. That's what we need to focus on. Joe gonna get this work.

[Unk]

Mark. 1, 2, 3. 1, 2.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I say let her do it.

[Unk]

Pain is the best teacher.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, they're not.

[Unk]

Nope. No one is gonna even sanction. Gonna even sanction that.

[Ocho]

It won't sanction it, but they will spar. I guarantee you that.

[Unk]

Savoy 2142.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, you won't spark Clarissa. Nope.

[Unk]

Peter Ocho want to go over there and see that Haitian dude, man?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That man, that. That Zo gone that way. He tried to get me to go. He want me to go to Haiti to beat up the guy. That man, that man that put all that on the girl.

[Ocho]

Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Let bygones be bygones, man. Hey, that's funny.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy.

[Unk]

Hey, fam, what's harder, winning a Super bowl or maintaining a long term relationship?

[Ocho]

Well, that's a good one right there.

[Unk]

A great one.

[Ocho]

That's a good one. Because if you look at the statistics on what it's like to maintain a long term relationship, hell, a long term marriage as well, that's very difficult. That's very difficult.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Never been married.

[Unk]

I've been in long term relationship.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And I'll say this, both require immense sacrifice. Immense.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I think the thing is, I think

[Unk]

it's harder to win a Super bowl because when you're dealing with a person one on one, you have to sacrifice, they have to sacrifice. But when you talk about a team, you talk about 53 sacrifices. So many different people have to sacrifice. So feet to the metal. I probably say, I'll say Super bowl, but neither is easy.

[Ocho]

Not at all.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Damn.

[Unk]

That's a damn good question. And I'm long term relationship because, hey, you grow, and sometimes you don't grow together, you go apart. And the thing is, is that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And see, like I said, in a

[Unk]

relationship, Ocho, you need two people to sacrifice.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Unk]

Quarterback got a sacrifice, Running back got a sacrifice. Wide receivers got a sacrifice.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And they got so many people that

[Ocho]

got a sacrifice, it's difficult.

[Unk]

Very. Brandon Crow.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, why didn't you bring OO tonight? He been wanting to hang out with you. OO had a prior engagement.

[Ocho]

Oh, Yeah, I. I had to do. I had a. A officiate a wedding tonight, so therefore, I'm gonna let Unk slide on this one, you know, But I asked.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You did.

[Unk]

Did you want to go?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You said no.

[Ocho]

I did, yeah. If it was boxing, I would have went.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

The Sean underscore show up.

[Unk]

If Kobe had it, a franchise like LeBron, when he came in the league and didn't get hurt, he would have had more points. LBJ never averaged more than 30. Actually, did he average 31? But that's not the here nor there. You see, if he was handed. If he was capable, he'd have been handed. One guy was drafted late lottery. The other guy was the first over number one overall pick. One guy came off the bench. The other guy never came off the bench. You can't say if There's a lot of ifs. There have been Brandon Roy, if he

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

doesn't get hurt, how great would he have been? We can't do ifs.

[Unk]

We have to do with what we know. No hypotheticals, just what we know.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's okay, guys.

[Unk]

You can love Kobe without trying to dump on LeBron. You can love LeBron without trying to dump on Kobe or Jordan.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's okay. It's.

[Unk]

Oh, it is fine for you to like a player and says, man, I. I really like Kobe. Okay, fine. But LeBron is a good player also. LeBron is a great player also. It's also okay to say, you know What? I love LeBron. LeBron bad boy. But that Jordan, Kobe, there was nothing

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

to play with either. It's okay to do that.

[Unk]

But somehow we've been.

[Ocho]

If.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

If you like one, you got to

[Unk]

hate or despise the other or try to create an argument. I don't. Okay, you don't like LeBron.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay, fine.

[Unk]

You like Kobe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay.

[Unk]

But LeBron's greatness is really to be unquestioned. The longevity in which he's played with and played at that level, to have a prime that lasted two decades, to average 25 points a game for 20 seasons,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

it's crazy. It's crazy.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But Kobe was great also.

[Unk]

Lee Mason. What Oliveira did to Max is what Debo would do to Ocho. No, he would piece him up, too.

[Ocho]

Today, I'm gonna. I'm gonna stick and move and have Debo frustrated because he can't grab me. That ain't happening.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Vonte. Vonte Lewis 501.

[Unk]

You listen to. You listen. Okay. What you listen to when you watch sports? Nothing. Silence. I don't listen to anything.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm I'm really.

[Unk]

I'm focused. I'm tuned in. When I go to the gym, I don't. I don't have headphones on. I just want to hear my breath. I just want to hear me breathing. I want to hear the weight clanging. I just want. That's. That's what I listen to. But when I'm watching sports, I don't listen to anything. I just like track and field now. I want to hear track and field.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I want to hear.

[Unk]

I want. I love to hear that call. I love to hear them talking and all that stuff. But football, basketball, silence. Yeah. Nick Mars up. It's about time to garnish Ocho wages. Only way you go to get that 5,900. You might be right, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Y' all might be right.

[Unk]

Gold standard. Michael Jordan is the goat. He's six and oh in the finals. No game seven. Played in a physical time in the NBA when LeBron went four and six in the finals. Jordan is a goat.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay, that's your opinion. You entitle your opinion for you.

[Unk]

Jordan is your goat. Some people is Kobe. Some people is Russell. Some people Kareem or Magic. Kobe, J.J. carver.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

80. Oh.

[Unk]

Oo y' all peep the Arnold Classic this year? Andrew, Jack. I did see that number one spot. Hottie, hottie. Chupon should have gotten number two. It was dope seeing Ronnie up there still pretend to play. Long live the king. Yes. Andrew looked good. Now this is the best I've seen. Andrew, Jack, look. I thought Nick Walker came in. This is the best I've seen. And Nick Walker, look, he brought a more complete package. Looked better. He looked much, much better than he did at the Arnold last year. This was the best package that I've seen. But Andrew, Jack, he was, he was, he was full. He was every shape. Everything just looked really, really good. I'm anxious to see what Samson doubter what he looks like. He's gotten up to £340.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I don't know why he wanted to

[Unk]

get that big to strip it all the way down. I just think he over dieted last year and it called him call him to and he flattened out. But he has the best package. When you look at it, look at it from the front and you look at him from the side, you look at it from the back. He's a large man. He has a nice, nice physique. Derek, I know everybody likes Derek, but I don't love Derek's physique. I don't think he's not hard. He's not grainy. He just looks like guy that typically walks around at the gym. I see guys who look like Derek Lungs for all the time and that's not a knock. Congratulations. He's a two time. He's a two time Olympia and there are very many guys that can say that. Yeah, you're talking about somebody that has followed the sport for an extremely long time and seen the great sort of greats complete compete from. You know, I started following when Lee, Lee Haney was winning the Olympias and the Vince Taylors and Deshaun Rays and the Flex Wheelers and obviously in the Ronnie and the Chris Comer, the Dexter Jackson, the Jay Cutlers. All of those guys.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Unk]

Muhammad Bazida.

[Ocho]

All those.

[Unk]

Yes, yes, yes. All of those guys. All those. Yes.

[Ocho]

Hey, he'll be in the comments. He'll be watching the show. Heavy boy, huh? Phil Heath. He'd be in the comments.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Phil from Denver. Yeah, no field. Like I said, these, I mean, like

[Unk]

I said, people look.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And I know a lot of the judges because like I said, I used

[Unk]

to go to the shows, I used

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

to go to Olympia, I've go to

[Unk]

Olympia now, but, but I used to go to the Arnold. I went to the Iron man, went

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

to Iron Man, Chicago Iron Man.

[Unk]

I go to the NPCs. I'm sorry, this, this. Today's bodybuilder can't touch the old school.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They don't have that. And I don't know. Oo, I think it's a situation where

[Unk]

guys, they use more machines, right?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That. It's that barbell that give you that

[Unk]

hard, grainy look because all the auxiliary muscles have to come in play when

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

you just doing a machine. Ocho, the auxiliary muscles don't come into play because it's all. Everything is balanced out. When you look at those old guys, you look at those physiques and you tell me you don't see a difference.

[Unk]

The hell you say?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Gold standard.

[Unk]

MJ was defensive player of the year, which truly makes him the goat who.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay, okay, guys.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Hey, depending on who you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You know what? If he played now, he average.

[Unk]

You have a 60 point, a 60, 20 triple double. Y' all good? King Entertainment, this is your boy Kale. My Birthday was the 7th. Can I get a shout out? Oo, listen to my mixtape.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Absolutely, King. I mean, Kale.

[Unk]

Happy birthday, bro.

[Ocho]

Happy birthday, my boy.

[Unk]

Oo.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You said, he said you got his mixtape.

[Unk]

Take a look at that.

[Ocho]

All right, all right, all right.

[Unk]

No, I mean, bro, he won the show today.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He looked really good. Now, you got to realize there have been very few people that could have a physique like. Like Ronnie, like Phil. I mean, Phil had those feel have field body was like flex.

[Unk]

Wheeler had those round. Those round belly muscles and tremendous from the front.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But the back is where you won. You go back and look at the Olympias, you look at Lee, you look at Ronnie, you look at Phil Heap, you look at guys, Mike Metzger, you Sumil Benu, you look at those guys, they had backs.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Everybody's not gonna be like that. And you have to understand that. I do. Andrew Jack, one would. No matter what you think about. He didn't look good. No. Ain't nobody gonna have. Nobody is gonna have the thickness, the

[Unk]

fullness that running, because Ronnie was a power lifter.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So all those deadlifts that he did built up those chain muscles, those spinal erectors, and it looked like that. You're gonna be hard pressed to find somebody that had the detail that afflict that I feel Heath had, especially on those small. Those small belly muscles that if you got to be born with that.

[Ocho]

Hey.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But Andrew Jack won.

[Ocho]

Hey, dude is huge, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Who? Andrew?

[Ocho]

Yeah, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unk]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Golly,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

you look. Hey, you look. Hey. Oh, he look good. He looked good.

[Unk]

He did.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You look at his. You look at his Delt. Nice abs. But like I said, I mean, bro,

[Unk]

everybody's gonna have a weakness.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

There's not been a complete bodybuilder where he had. Oh, he had the best chest, best calves, best this, best that.

[Ocho]

Hey, I think. I think I'm gonna be an IBF pro, man. What you think?

[Unk]

Nah, you're too late now, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Who?

[Unk]

It's too late.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And you could.

[Unk]

First of all, you not gonna. It's too late, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They.

[Unk]

They.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I don't care how much supplementation they

[Unk]

give you, it ain't gonna work.

[Ocho]

Okay. I could just. All right. Not by. I do the physique. What's it. Is it. What's the category physique?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They have physique.

[Ocho]

Yeah, Yeah, I do physique. I could win that right now.

[Unk]

Oh, with the board shorts. Now, you're not. You know, you're still not gonna win, but, hey, I'm.

[Ocho]

I'm. Well, I'm chiseled, huh? Hey, I look like a sculpture, you know? You know the Greek gog sculptures? How they do.

[Unk]

I do.

[Ocho]

That's how I'm built like that with no shirt.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You need to go see those guys,

[Unk]

and then you'll get a sense like, damn.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I didn't see I didn't. I didn't see them in person.

[Unk]

And first of all, you eat Waffle House too much. You not fit to die down and get like.

[Ocho]

I'll stop. I stop if I know I'm competing. I'm three months out. I'm good. You won't understand until you see me. All right? I'm away. I'm away to the summer. When the summer come, I'm gonna hit the beach. I'm gonna hit the beach in Mosquito.

[Unk]

Oh, Lord.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unk]

You just can't wear the board shorts.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Just wear the board shorts. Ain't got to wear no Speedo.

[Ocho]

I mean, you. Okay. My European trunks.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No.

[Unk]

Just wear board shorts.

[Ocho]

No, I'm like, you a surfer. I'm wearing my European trunks. Huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, Lord.

[Ocho]

Cuz, I need. I need ma mas and my cavs to show.

[Unk]

Oo you ain't got no calves.

[Ocho]

Oh, come on, man. You be playing, man. Play. Look at these calves, bro. Look at them thing, huh?

[Unk]

I've seen bigger legs on a piano.

[Ocho]

A really care this man here. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, don't load the villain.

[Unk]

My brother Kendall is battling cancer. Can y' all send him some love and prayers? Absolutely. Kendall, bro, the family here at Nightcap, man, want to wish you the best. Speedy recovery. Stay prayed up. We're playing for use, so make sure you and the family is praying for you as well, man. I'm sorry to be going through this, but we know you can persevere and you will overcome. God bless. Jack. Bus 13.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, Unc.

[Unk]

Ocho. How y' all feel? Tennessee? Who? Oh, how about Tennessee and who you feel they should draft? Love y' all tighten up.

[Ocho]

I mean, Tennessee need. They need a receiver. Calvin really coming back off. Off injury. I'm not sure how that's going. I'm sure he's going to be. Be able to get back, but they need a receiver. They need another dog. I'm not sure what pick they're. They're picking at.

[Unk]

They pick it high up for sure.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I'm. I'm. Yeah, I would. I would love for them to get another receiver. They. They need. They need it for Cam

[Unk]

J5107 Ultra. I'm 621-8. I think I can take on a small silverback easily.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You can't even be the chimpanzee, let alone a silverback.

[Ocho]

Boy, chimpa give you hell, too.

[Unk]

Now, that's what I just told him.

[Ocho]

No,

[Unk]

He could take on a small silver back.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

There's no such thing as a small

[Unk]

silverback because first of All I think

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

a silverback has to be about 12 years of age before they get that

[Unk]

colored hair on their back. And only the. Yeah, if I'm not mistaken, I think

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

they have to be about 12 years

[Unk]

of age before they start getting that coloration on their backs.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And I ain't never heard somebody.

[Unk]

Oh, that's a small silver back. No.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And at 62180, you ain't beating the chimpanzee. First of all, you. You not even. You not even beating a female.

[Ocho]

Hey, he might not be the panda.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Unk]

He ain't beating no panda.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Pandas are mean as pandas.

[Ocho]

They are?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Hell yeah.

[Ocho]

They so clumsy and fun.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay. Clumsy. Okay. That's what you think. Okay. Got y' all food. How they be?

[Unk]

Hey, they be doing all stuff for

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

tricks and all that.

[Unk]

And them.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Them. The Lions come up there and they clap and do.

[Clarissa Shields]

Okay.

[Unk]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Juice 1976 Uncle Joe team.

[Unk]

Y' all keep out working these boys. They mad y' all beating them in their own space. That's what we do. That's what we do.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Teddy. Hard 2913.

[Unk]

Why is Amazon prime show up the NBA game called themselves Nightcap. They call the NBA show and the NFL show that. But y' all know who the original Nightcap is. Often duplicated, imitated, but never duplicated.

[Ocho]

They can't do 101.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Tim's bed. 7,000, 618. Un.

[Unk]

Oo what y' all think about the competition? AFC North, Max Mile TJ. What you thinking?

[Ocho]

Oo be crazy. I'm crazy. But listen, we just saw. We just saw a team last in AFC north with a bunch of names on it. You know, on paper, you would have thought they would have been a dominant defense, you know, in. In the Steelers. And they didn't look anything, you know, like the names or like we thought they would look like. But Max Crosby is Max Crosby. He is everything as advertised. So he definitely going to make the Ravens defense tremendously better and be impact right away.

[Unk]

Don't forget to spring forward now.

[Ocho]

What?

[Unk]

Spring forward. Set your clock up an hour.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah. You know, I got an iPhone. You know, it says itself. Oh, yeah, I got an iPhone, you

[Unk]

know, so I'm just making sure.

[Ocho]

So that means we losing an hour of sleep, huh?

[Unk]

That's what that means, Ocho.

[Ocho]

That's fine. That's fine. I'm go. I go to bed early anyway.

[Unk]

You gain. You gain an extra hour of. You gave an extra hour of daylight, though.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I like, listen, as. As a. As a medicine a brother of the cloth. I'm okay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Thank you guys for joining us for

[Unk]

another episode of Nightcap. I'm your favorite aunt and that guy is the bingo legend, a former pro bowler and an all pro. That is Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Again, thank you guys for your support and your continued support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shade by Laportier, head over to laportierconjac.com if you cannot find any city or state near you. The best tasting premium VSOP cognac on the market. Please drink responsibly and stay safe for the undisputed bmf. Charles Oliveira defeated Max Holloway by unanimous decision. And it wasn't really close. He takes the BMF belt off of Max Holloway thanks to a resounding his takedown. And he just stalled him out once he got him on the mat. Charles Oliveira is the new BMF champion. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I'm unk. He's ocho. See you back tomorrow. Joining us guys,

[Ocho]

Sam.