Nightcap Hour 2: UCLA UPSETS Texas + Deontay Wilder WINS in SLUGFEST + JOkic OUTDEUELS Wemby in THRILLER

Summary

Nightcap Hour 2 – April 5, 2026

Episode Title: "UCLA UPSETS Texas + Deontay Wilder WINS in SLUGFEST + Jokic OUTDEUELS Wemby in THRILLER"
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe ("Uncle Shay Shay"), Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson, Joe (“Uncle Joe”), and Joe Ford

Episode Overview

This fast-moving episode of Nightcap dives into a wild night of sports action, led by animated, unfiltered discussion. Legends Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson break down headline events: the heated aftermath of South Carolina's triumph over UConn in women’s basketball (and Geno Auriemma’s controversial behavior), UCLA's upset against Texas, Deontay Wilder’s brutal win in the boxing ring, and Nikola Jokic’s epic performance outshining Victor Wembanyama. The discussion is frank, funny, and full of personality—equal parts sports analysis and barbershop banter.

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1. Main Theme

The episode’s purpose is to give instant reactions and deep dives into the day’s biggest games and moments. Much of the hour is anchored around sportsmanship, competitiveness, and how legacies are shaped in high-pressure scenarios. The hosts discuss not only the scores, but the character, coaching, and cultural impact of these recent events.

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2. South Carolina vs. UConn: Fallout & Geno's Apology

[02:37 – 16:49]

Key Points & Insights

• South Carolina Lady Gamecocks defeat UConn Huskies 62–48.

  • Dramatic aftermath: UConn coach Geno Auriemma has a heated confrontation with South Carolina coach Dawn Staley during the post-game handshake.
  • The hosts strongly criticize Geno’s lack of sportsmanship.

• Geno Auriemma's Apology:

  • Geno issues a public apology, admitting his actions were uncalled for but directing it to the staff, not Staley personally.
  • Shannon & Ocho dissect the sincerity and aim of the apology, finding it inadequate.

• South Carolina's Dominance:

  • Panel highlights the team’s stifling defense as the reason for the win.
  • Discussion of South Carolina coach Dawn Staley’s impact and leadership.

Notable Quotes

• On sportsmanship:

  • “As a coach, especially a winning coach like Gino, you have to be able...to learn how to win with grace and lose with grace.” – Joe Ford [03:56]
  • “This was a sore loser.” – Ocho (Chad) [05:30]
  • “You should have personally apologized to Don [Staley]. You didn’t have an altercation with the entire entity of South Carolina.” – Joe Ford [06:49]
  • “Don said, ‘I beat Gino ass. I would beat Gino ass.’” – Ocho [07:27]

• On South Carolina’s achievement:

  • “They did it on the defensive end...you look at what Sarah Strong and what AZ Fudd shot, and that'll tell you everything that you need to know.” – Ocho [09:10]
  • “The Gamecocks...when you think about the Gamecocks, you think about their women’s basketball team. You don’t think about the football team.” – Ocho [09:25]

• On Geno’s reputation:

  • “He’s 12 and one. So twelve times, somebody had to walk across the court and shake his hand after getting their ass tore up...Now the one time you supposed to win and you didn’t, you behave like this?” – Ocho [12:21]

Memorable Moments

• The crew speculates about what Dawn Staley said in the locker room after the confrontation, celebrating her Philly toughness.
• They bring up parallels with Bill Belichick’s cold handshake habits after losses. [21:04]

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3. UCLA Upsets Texas in Women's NCAA Tournament

[26:16 – 32:24]

Key Points & Insights

• UCLA defeats Texas 51–44.

  • Lauren Betts leads UCLA with 16 points, 11 rebounds, and 3 blocks.
  • Kiki Rice is praised for clutch free throws.
  • Texas’s star (Booker) dramatically struggles, missing 17 straight shots.
  • Discussion centers on Texas’s lack of aggression and settling for jumpers (only five team free throw attempts).

• Analysis:

  • If Texas’s star had just played decent, Texas wins.
  • UCLA’s defense gets high praise, especially Betts’ performance.

Notable Quotes

• “They did a number on her. She missed 17 straight shots, Ocho...She went three for 23 for six points.” – Joe [27:10]
• “They shot five free throws, Joe, so that tells me they’re not aggressive...they’re settling for jumpers.” – Ocho [27:24]

Timestamps

• Game recap and analysis: [26:16 – 28:37]

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4. Tall Women, Relationships, and Athletic Legacies

[29:00 – 36:12]

Key Points & Insights

• Lighthearted debate: Would the hosts date women taller than themselves?
• Ocho shares his grandmother’s comedic advice about tall women: “Boy, if you date a woman taller, you the first thing she get mad at, you gonna hit you in your head.” [32:37]
• Discussion drifts into athletic genetics (“if the woman is tall, the child probably pretty much gonna be tall”) and famous tall couples.
• Both hosts agree it’s rare to see two tall people together and joke about their personal experiences.

Memorable Exchange

• Joe’s quip: “I like for them to get on their tiptoes to kiss me. What do I look like on my tiptoes kissing a woman!” [33:29]
• “Ain’t nothing wrong with being vulnerable in that position, man, you know, for a change.” – Joe Ford [37:07]

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5. Deontay Wilder Wins in a Heavyweight Slugfest

[45:21 – 50:01]

Key Points & Insights

• Deontay Wilder defeats Derek Chisora by split decision in a “war,” not a boxing match.

  • Wilder scores two knockdowns but looked wild and tired at times.
  • The panel describes it as more “just a fight” than technical boxing.
  • Judges’ scores were close, and both fighters showed age.

• Fight Breakdown:

  • Both fighters leaned on each other, exchanged wild punches, and spent plenty of time clinching and rabbit-punching.
  • Joe and Ocho lament the lack of “sweet science,” but admit it was fun to watch.
  • Speculation on who Wilder should fight next (Anthony Joshua, Usyk, or Fury)—with concern for their chins.

Notable Quotes

• “That wasn’t a boxing match, Uncle Joe. That was a fight. That was war.” – Joe Ford [46:08]
• “Notice about Deontay Wilder...when he gets somebody in trouble, he really starts swinging wild.” – Ocho [47:04]
• “Joshua...he’s more of a pure boxer, too...but Wilder has a puncher’s chance.” – Joe Ford [49:15]

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6. Jokic Outduels Wemby in NBA OT Thriller

[50:22 – 55:45]

Game Recap

• Denver Nuggets defeat San Antonio Spurs in OT.
  • Jokic produces a monster line: 40 points, 13 assists, 8 rebounds, 3 blocks, 0 turnovers.
  • Wemby counters with 34 points, 18 rebounds, 7 assists, 5 blocks.
  • Both went to the free throw line frequently, showing relentless inside play.

Analysis & Insights

• Jokic’s high-level decision-making and unique shot-making (“that one-legged shot...against the Lakers”) gets effusive praise.
• Jokic compared to D. Wade for multi-category dominance.
• The panel admires the West’s gauntlet of elite teams; expects Denver-San Antonio matchups to go the distance in the playoffs.

Notable Quotes

• “Jokic had a game-high 40...no turnovers. Denver snapped San Antonio’s 11-game winning streak and extended its own run to 8 straight.” – Ocho [50:22]
• “He [Jokic] never forces the action...he always knows that. And every time, bro, he answers the bell.” – Joe [52:32]

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7. Quick Hits & Additional Banter

• Light digressions on USA Women’s Olympic basketball domination and coaching changes. [18:50 – 21:04]
• Absurd hypotheticals and relationship jokes between sports and society, always tying everything back to athletic excellence or personality.

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8. Memorable Moments & One-Liners

• “I'm like Skittles, man. I'm every color, everything...I'm gonna taste the rainbow.” – Joe Ford [36:08]
• Playful, self-deprecating riffs on being short or tall, and pride in “taste the rainbow” dating experience.
• Ocho’s insistence: “I'm good. I don't got old now. I'm shrinking.” [33:56]

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9. Key Segment Timestamps

• South Carolina vs. UConn and Geno drama: [02:37 – 16:49]
• UCLA upsets Texas: [26:16 – 32:24]
• Tall women & dating with athletes: [29:00 – 36:12]
• Deontay Wilder wins boxing slugfest: [45:21 – 50:01]
• Jokic vs. Wemby NBA game: [50:22 – 55:45]

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10. Tone & Takeaways

The hosts maintain a direct, unfiltered, locker-room tone—calling out unsportsmanlike conduct, celebrating resilience, and mixing deep sports analysis with comedic asides. The episode blends sharp criticism (of Geno, poor sportsmanship, and wild fighting) with high praise for athletes who face adversity, step up, and lead—especially coaches and players who set the standard for new generations.

For new listeners: This episode is a prime example of Nightcap’s mix of storytelling, real talk, and fun—where every game is more than just a score, and every big moment gets a personal, passionate breakdown.

Transcript

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[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Ready? The South Carolina Lady Gamecocks beat the Yukon Huskies 62 to 48. In the final seconds, Gino Oriemma approached Don Staley for a postgame handshake and then angrily got in her face before Don started firing back. The two were separated, but Don kept shouting towards the bench before walking away. Geno walked off to the tunnel alone. In his postgame news conference, Geno said he was frustrated because he waited three minutes for a pregame handshake with Don. He also said he did not regret the comments he made to Holly Row during the broadcast about the lack of files against South Carolina. It said Don Ransom raves at the officials and called referees some names you don't want to hear. Clearly someone got through the Gino because this morning he issued a statement saying there are no excuses for how handled the end of the game versus South Carolina. It's unlike what I do and what our standard is here at Connecticut. I want to apologize to the staff and the team at South Carolina. It was uncalled for how I reacted. The story should have been how well South Carolina played and I don't want my actions to distract from that. I have a great relationship with their staff and I sincerely want to apologize to them. Gino Oreyama well, I'm glad you apologize cause we about to tear your ass up, Gino. But anyway, Ocho Joe, we still gonna

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

tear his ass up?

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Oh yeah, absolutely.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

He was dead wrong. Yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Dead wrong. Hey, Uncle Joe, listen. As a coach, especially a winning coach like Gino, you have to be able. You should understand and you know how to learn how to win with grace and lose with grace. When you beat Ms. Staley last time, you was all smiles. Hey, all smiles, happy hugs, ready to, you know, whatever it may be. And the fact that you say some things to Holly Row and saying that in the game that Don Staley probably influenced the rest because you y' all guys didn't get the calls necessary. Listen, South Carolina, they didn't just beat y'. All. They dominated in every aspect of the game. Yeah, they played great defense.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

It just did. That wasn't a. That wasn't getting beat. That was getting your ass whipped.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

That's all it was. I mean, listen, your team got embarrassed. You got to be able to lose with grace as well. Okay. You didn't get the three minute handshake or you waited three minutes before, you know, pregame, and you didn't. What is that?

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

That had. So you still.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Yeah, she shook his hand in pregame.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Well, why do you say before the

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

game she shook his hand, man.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Oh, so he's upset he had to wait three minutes? Is that. Why bring that up?

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

He's upset. He was the favorite. They blew South Carolina out last year. They were favorite. They got two All American. First team All American. Yeah. They might have the player of the year in Sarah Strong.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Sarah. She nice.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

But. But South Carolina beat him.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

And so this is. I'm. I was. I thought I was going to win. I was supposed to win, and I got beat.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

That's what this was about. This was a sore loser.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Damn.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Handshake.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah. Undefeated season, you know, he was something, bro. He was salty. And how about not just apologizing to the coaching staff, you know, give. Give a personal apology to Don Staley, you know what I mean? Like, bro, for you to get in her face like that and talk stuff to her after the game, man, just congratulate and move on. I understand, you know, in the heat of the battle, you know, we.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

We.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

We get a little pissed off. You know, like I said, he was on the brink to having an undefeated season. Uncle Ocho.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

And like. Like, Unc said he was a heavy favorite, but, man, them girls from South Carolina, they just outplayed them.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

They rolled occasion.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

They outplayed. They dogged him. They dogged him and he couldn't take it. He couldn't take it.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

No, no, don't say South Carolina. You didn't do that to South Carolina. You was in Don Staley's.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

That's what I'm talking about.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Apologize. Say, you know what? I want to apologize to the staff and I want to personally apologize to Don. Now, you told a lie because you said you had a great relationship with the staff. You don't. You said before they asked you after the game, do you have a relationship? You said, no.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Right.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

So were you lying then or you're lying now?

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Right, right.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, and you know what?

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Whoever. Whoever wrote that apology to Uncle Joe Ford.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah. GPT. Allegedly.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

That too. And he know if you're gonna apologize.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Allegedly.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Yeah. If you're going to apologize to someone, you apologize to the person you had the altercation with.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

That's what I have.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

An altercation with the staff.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

That's what I'm saying.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

You didn't have an altercation with the entire entity of South Carolina.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

That apology been directed straight to Don Staley and nobody else.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

And.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

And the fact that he was dead wrong. Talking about, oh, my player got a ripped jersey. Hell, she ripped her own Damn Jersey. Yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

40 years and I've never had a player ripped jersey. Well, I guess you never had a player get that upset then. Cause she ripped that on her own damn jersey.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Like, just dead wrong. Just, you know, you dead wrong like that, bro. Just apologize. Make a personal apology to Don. That's what I felt like it should have been, but I just felt like he was. He was dead wrong, bro. Dead wrong.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Don said, I'mma beat. I beat Gino ass. I would beat Gino ass. Oh, you ready?

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Lips. You read her lips, too.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Okay, okay, okay. Hey, dawn from Philly. Uncle Ocho, she ain't playing. Yeah. She about to get to it.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah. And that's. Anytime you have to. It has to have. It has to be personal. Yes. Because what you did was personal.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Okay. You want to apologize to your institution because the way you behaved and put them in a negative light. You can say that. I want to apologize to my university also. But you did this to.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Don't.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

You didn't do this to the entire staff. You did this to one individual. Now, whatever the case may be, I don't know where it goes back from, but he had a very contentious, contentious relationship with Pat Summit, the University of Tennessee. Yeah, it was very contentious. I know had. Had the lovely opportunity of meeting Pat in New York at the. At the sky Club at LaGuardia. Had a great time. I said, Ms. Summit, how you. He said, call me Pat. You know, so forth and so on. But, Gino, you was wrong.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

And your apology, I appreciate it, but it needs to have a personal touch to it. It needs to say, I apologize to the person that I spoke out of turn to, that I approached that. I. That I. I probably said something that I should have said. I don't know what he said.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Right.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

The way you behave is that you took a lot of the. A lot of the. The. The.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

The.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

The steam out of the sale of South Carolina because What we should be talking about that South Carolina did what many didn't think they could do.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Right? Right.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Beat an undefeated team, a reigning champion with two All Americans. And they did it on the defensive end.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah. There had some ladies that rose to the occasion offensively, but this was a defense. You look at what Sarah Strong. Scott, you look at what AZ Fudd shot, and that'll tell you everything that you need to know for you to not have a personal touch and say that. I like to apologize first and foremost to Don Staley.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

She's a hell of a coach. She's rebound. Hey, look here. The Gamecocks. When you think about the Gamecocks, you think about their women's basketball team. You don't think about a football team. And they've had a baseball team, had good baseball team, good track program with Sarge Fry. But when you think of South Carolina Gamecocks, you think of Don Staley and the Lady Gamecocks.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Absolutely. Absolutely.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

So for you not to talk about the staff, you said you do not have a personal relationship with Don Staley. And. And I'm not saying that you have to.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

That's fine. But your behavior would suggest that you need to have personally apologized to her. I appreciate you apologizing to the University of South Carolina and their staff, but they got to be have a little more personal touch to it.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

That's what.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Apology. Apology. In order for you to. For you, an individual, because what you did was to an individual, you need to personally apologize to said individual.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Absolutely.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, what you want to say?

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Honestly, if you know, excuse my language, man, that apology, most of the time, it takes for somebody to get angry, for them to show their true colors and how they really feel.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

I mean, that. That's all it is.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

And then on. On top of that, the fact that he didn't apologize directly to her, it lets you know how you really feel.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Right. Right.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

When you win it. When you're winning all this.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

When you win it. Last year, when he was on the sideline, the clock's running down. He got his hands all up there.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Hey.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Smiling. Yeah.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Back where we supposed to be.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, that.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Man, that fake ass apology, man. Ain't never no apology, man.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

He didn't.

[Donald]

He didn't.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

He didn't even write it. But. But check this out. Can y' all imagine what Don Staley was like in the locker room after the game? Like, way to kick that.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Of course, man.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

You know, she was going off like that. Oh, yeah.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Wait a minute.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Hey, that's what I would have been like. I'm like, man, wait, wait.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Wait a minute, Joe. And hold on. You want to.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

You.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

You. You think it's bad because Gino did this. Imagine if the rules was flipped, boy. Yeah, man, it would have been World War iii.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah. They'd have been talking big stuff about Don.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Man, listen, you gotta be just as gracious in victory as you are in defeat.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Defeat.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Now, think about it. Think about Geno. Gino's been coaching 20, 40 years. He's been the 25 Final Fours. He's won 12 championships. So somebody has been on the losing end 12 times. Gino is 12 and one in final in national championship games. Damn. South Carolina beat him a couple of years ago. He's 12 and one. So 12 times somebody had to walk across the floor across the court aisle and. And shake his hand after gotten their ass tore up.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

You look at the women that he's coached from Tarasi and. And Lobo and Maya Moore and Charles and. And Brianna Stewart. And the list goes on and on. He's winning three out of four. Brianna Stewart didn't lose a national championship game. So for four straight years, this man, he up there. Cheech, Kiki, in people's face.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Now, the one time you're supposed to win and you didn't, you behave like this. Remember, you're as gracious in victory as you are in defeat. Nobody likes to lose. Everybody talking about, man, I'm a sword. I hate when people say, well, I hate to lose every. If. If you. At that. Once you get to a certain level, everybody hates to lose.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yes, sir.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

You put all that damn time in all these girls and put all this time in and.

[Miles Turner]

And.

[Donald]

And.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

And been away from their families and doing all this stuff. Nobody wants to lose. No, but it's a part of it. Yeah, but when they lose, they don't act like a jackass. Man, that. That kills me. I hate what guy? Oh, I'm a. So, yeah, it bothers me. Anybody. Because I know there. There are some guys that. Hey, when they. When they winning, they running around and act like they're on the damn hoverboard. Yeah, but when they lose, Ocho, they can't be found. Well, you know, I. I didn't want. No, no, no, no. But they couldn't get you to shut up.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Nah, don't. Don't do that.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah, don't do that. Yeah, I just didn't. I just didn't expect that from Geno, bro. I. I Just felt like he was a classy individual, and I thought that, you know, he. He would. He would be much better than that. Like blaming Don on how she talked to the red man. Come on, man. We're in between the line.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Never said something out of. Out of line to the ref.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Come on, man.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

But that ain't your job. That's the ref. You ain't no ref. You a Coke it. Stop dry snitching. Yeah, and.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

And the way. The way he said it, the way he explained it, is as if Don screaming or saying whatever she's saying to the referees is influencing the ref's call in the game.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Right Then.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Then he follows it up with the fouls.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Are we talking. What are we.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Gina.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

What are we talking about? Baby, you got whooped. You lost.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Yes.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

You don't lose often, but tonight you lost.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, what about. What about that Ocho, the man, the one. He won like 112 something games. He won like he went like three straight years straight and never lost a game. Ain't no. Ain't nobody. Ain't nobody did. Did what he did to him with Don Staley.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

What he did to Don, they didn't do that to him. No, Don took that ass whipping. I think they beat the Carolina last year. They beat him. I think they beat him in South Carolina. Beat him by about 30 or 40, and they beat him by another 20, 30 last year. The championship game.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah. D. Got some dogs over there, Uncle Ocho.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Oh, yeah, and Chloe Kip, one of the best rebounding girls. She hurt.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, but McIr and Lassen, those at Raven Johnson, all those. Hey, them girls came to play. Yeah, they came to play.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

They knew what was going to play

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

last night, and I just hope they could. I hope they can finish it off. Yeah, it's gonna be anticlimactic if they take down Goliath and they. They don't take care of ucla.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

So ucla, they. Hey, they got. They got. They got a big girl down there who ain't playing.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Yeah, she nice.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, but Carolina. Go play some defense. Now, they don't do nothing else. They gonna play deep. They're gonna hang the hats on defense because that's what Don was. Don was a. Hey. Yeah, she was. Hey, she could. Hey, she could put the ball in the basket. But Don was a hound.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah, and she got some girls who can go off the bounce, though. Who I'm talking about.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Yep.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Get to that chicken, Uncle Ocho. Yeah, like, you know, you.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

You.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

It's. It's different when you got girls who out there moving like dudes. You see what I'm saying? Who handling that rock like a dude. Like.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

That's when you like, hold on, bro. You know what I mean? Yeah. For real. That's why I be looking up like, hold on. That girl got that thing on the string, don't she?

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

So. But Carolina did it. Game. The Lady Gamecocks has an opportunity to win their third national championship in four years. What? For what she's done to that program. Wow, man. Basically, that's what you got. That's what you got to do. Because for the most part, these. When you get a program, you build it up. Look at Gino. Gino was there for 40 plus. It's been a UConn for 40 years. Pat was there for 35. 40 years. Tar Vandiver at Stanford, 35, 40 years. You look at these ladies. And Kim Mulkey, when she was at Baylor, she built that program up.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

So basically, you gotta build a program. You just got. You just gotta build it.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

You gotta be a great players coach to where these kids that's coming to your school, they gotta really truly believe that you got they back. And I feel like with Don, you know, she in TikTok, she in Instagram reels, you know what I mean? That's relatable to these kids. Cause that's all they wanna do. You know what I mean? They wanna have fun, do stuff like that. At the same time, if you giving me everything that I'm asking for on the court, 100% on offense and defense, man, I do all the tik tok

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

y' all want to do, didn't she? What did she do? She let her team pick out a bag, a Louis Vuitton bag. I think she let Jackson State and them get sneakers. Yeah, I think she. I mean, she. She's just all like, I've never met Don, but she just strikes me as an allaround good player.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

A good person.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

She wants to. Hey, look, she a hard worker. You can tell. She a hard worker.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

But. And she. And she demands. She. She can't. The way she. She demands a certain level of respect.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Miles Turner]

And.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

And.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

And.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

And the women. And the women gravitate towards that. They know. Hey, once. Once a coach established what he expects or she expects, and they don't waver.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

There you go. Yeah. She shout out to Don, man, she came and hollered at us when I was playing in the Big Three. This one, I was playing with the triplets and Lisa Lesl.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Okay.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Lisa Leslie played together. Usa.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

You know, they.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

They dog.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Not. I mean, so she came in there and talked to us, bro. Like, you know, just gave us a little pep talk before the game, and I thought that was cool. So I got much love and respect for. I like how she handled herself, you know, after that game the other day. Because I'm gonna tell you, I would have been the same way. Hell, I wouldn't have been surprised. She jumped on Gino ass. I was like, well, look, I can't whip him.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, I. I can't whip him in front of all these folks. But hold on. Wasn't Don under Geno at the US team? Yeah, they coached in the Olympics in 20. She went on.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

I think she played for him, too. She played for him and coached with him.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

He was a coach. Because. I know. I think Pat coached for a number of years, But if I'm. She might. She. Is she still the. The usa basketball. Us women's basketball coach. Head coach in 21. David. Now, I mean, our women had lost the gold medal since I think, what, 92, 96, 2004, 8, 12, 16, 21, 24. So we don't want seven straight time.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

They don't even have no competition, though. No, no, they too good.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Cause we go. I mean, we bring. We bring. I mean, we got Stu. Our bigs is stewing. And. And Asia. And then we got guards out the yin yang.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

We got Caitlin Clark. We got Inescu. We got Chelsea. We got Jackie Young.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah, they came up with us too many.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

We got Fee.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

They can't. They can't fool with us.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Them girls can go boy.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Okay. Okay. Cheryl Reeves. Okay, so who's the coach? Who's gonna be the coach in 28? Reeves again.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Okay.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

But, you know, you bet you better than that, Gino. All the. I mean, it's. Huh. Carol Lawson. Okay. Duke. Okay.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Oh, yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Tennessee on the pad.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

She coaching the USA thing.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

She gonna be the coaching 28.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

I like Carol Lawson.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

She good. I like Carol, too. But you notice it's always. It's. It's mainly the coaches that win a lot. And then when they lose, show date. Cause you know who else was like that? You know, you played for a mocho.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Who?

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Bill Belichick.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Want to run off the field and don't.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Don't shake hands.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Be getting short with the answers. It's always the people that win. You, bro, you don't win. And coaches have to answer the question and talk about how great that Play call was and how you went for it and all of this and that. They got to just laud you with a praise and adulation.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Now you lose a game.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

He gave you one announcement.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Oh, yeah, big time.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Gotta play better, coach. Better.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

That's it.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Belichick said. Damn all that.

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[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

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[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

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[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

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[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

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[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Basically, that's exactly what he said. UCLA beat Texas 51, 44. Four UCLA starters scored in double figures, led by scenic senior Lauren Betts with 16 points, 11 rebounds, three blocks, but a crucial, a crucial one late in the ball game. Kiki Rice. We've had Kiki on 11 points, including four key free throws in the final minute to see the win. And fellow guards Gabrielle Hawkins, whose brother Jamie plays at the Miami Miami Heat, and Gianna pickens each had 10. I thought Texas, because Texas got a girl. I think it's Booker. I think Booker, you see what she wears? KD number 35.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

You see what she shot from the field?

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Boy, they did a number on her. She missed 17 straight shots. Oh, Joe. And Ocho, before she hit that last one late, I think within four or three. But she was.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Oh, she was. She got plenty of game. Uncle Och, I done seen her play a few times this year. Yeah, but she won three or 23 for six points, bro. Yeah, ain't no. And look, they only. They ain't even lose by that many. I thought, you know, if she could have just played decent.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Oh, they beat him. Yeah, if she played. If they, if she play. And, and, and here's another thing. They shot five free throws, Joe, so that tells me they're not aggressive. No, it tells me they're settling for jumpers. Yeah, yeah, she's over four. She's 04 from the three point line. And then she didn't shoot a free throw. Their starter, only one starter, shot a free throw. Let that sink in. Only one starter from the University of Texas shot a free throw.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Damn. Yeah. Hey, Best did a number on them, though. 11 boys, 16.7 for 10. She can play. I like her game.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Oh, she. She tall. She's 6, 6, 4.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

I think she like

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

it's gonna be. Can. Can. Can. How does UCLA handle the pressure of the Lady Gamecocks?

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

When they, when they play? Huh?

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Tomorrow at like 2:30 or something.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

2:30. Well, I'm glad I'm, you know, I'm glad they. They moved it in front of the man because before Joe and Ocho, you know, they were. I think they. Weren't they playing after the men at one point in time? They were playing like on a Tuesday or have they always played on Sunday?

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

I think they always play a day before the men.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Joe, do you remember. Do you remember Joe Ocho and the men's Final four? They used to play a consolation game that the two teams that lost. So like Arizona and Illinois would play.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Oh, no, I ain't never. I ain't knowing that.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, they used to do that, Joe.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

I'd be pissed off. I wouldn't even want to play.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Oh, they say best six, seven.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Damn. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's six, seven. She down there handling business, too, boy.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

She's. She's six. What?

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Six, seven. Hey, hey, the thing is. Hey, she can't. Hey, she better. She better find her a Cooper flag. Cause she can't wear nothing but flip flops with a guy. Ain't no way she can put on new. She put on four inch heels.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Hey, could y' all date a girl taller than y'?

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

All? Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

I didn't been there.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

I didn't been there.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

You dated a girl?

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, Joe, in 2017, they moved it from Tuesday to Sunday. I knew they used to come on. I was like, bro, y' all anticlimactic. You got guys hitting buzzer beaters. Carolina hitting the Villanova hitting the buzzer beater. How you top that? Yeah, go before the men.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Damn.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, Joe. What'd you ask me, Joe?

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

I said, have y'. All. Have y' all dated a girl tall than y'? All?

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

I have not.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Ocho say, yeah.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Yeah. You know, Joy had one by six five.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Did you really?

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Yeah. Six. Six? Yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

The country. You know you can climb a tree.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Yeah, I was just getting ready to say that. Joe, you ain't never climbed. You ain't never climbed no tree. Nobody taller than you.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Bad Joe fried somebody. She gonna be seven foot tall.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Hey, hey, hey.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Ojo, you said hell, you went to the Amazon, right?

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Ocho, you say y' all the same size when you lay down, huh?

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Hey. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. Hey, boy.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Joe must have got one of the most Sudanese women from the car. What's the guy, Lou? All day. Those. Those are the tallest women on average. What. What is he suited?

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Knees?

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

I think he's through the knees. They the tall. They have the tallest women on average. Joe.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah. I ain't never dating no girl taller than me. I'm six, seven, six, eight. I mean, damn, you want me. I'm dating somebody. Six, nine.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Hold on.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Hey, Joe, hold on. Most of the time, Joe, when you was playing ball, like in high school, in college, you. You dated other. Other Hoopers, right? No.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The girl I dated when I was in high school and college, she played ball.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

She.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

How tall she was?

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

She on about five, six.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Yeah, I'm talking about somebody like six feet and better.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Oh, man, no, no, no. You know, you'll never. You don't. You don't really.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

You.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

That's rare. You'll never really see two tall people together.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Bam. Bam and Asia.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

I said it's rare, Ojo.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Oh, my bad.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah. Lisa Leslie and her husband. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

They're my people. Yeah, yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Lisa like, six, four, six, five, and I think he, like, six, six, seven.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah, yeah, okay.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Merton Hanks and his wife. You remember Merton Hanks, Ocho? Yep. Yeah, he. His wife. His wife. Hell, his wife might be taller than him. Yeah. Murder one time like, six, three. She got him. She. I think she about six, four.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Hey, I tell you what.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

I've never. I've never dated. I've never dated a woman. But Ms. Bets, unless she get. Unless she get Nicola Jokic or the dude From Florida that's 7 foot 9, she can't wear no heels, right?

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Hey, but that's how you get. You a monster, though, boy. You get your name. Because if the woman tall, the child probably pretty much gonna be tall. It has a lot to do with the woman.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Yeah, I tried. I tried, Joe.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

I tried, bro. You tried? You ain't got no tall kids, Ocho.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

I mean, yeah, yeah, they are. They all. They all tall. They all tall. But I'm just saying, at that time, during that time, I was like, hey, listen. And they were like, nah, it ain't the right time. I catch you later on in life. I'm like, listen, I ain't got time to waste.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, I mean, I dated women my height. Six foot. I mean, my height, but not somebody like six, three, six, four, six, five.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah, if she put on Here.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

If she put on heels, then she taller than you.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Well, hey, she got away. She got to wear clogs or sandals. Because the thing is, you know, my grandma and grandfather used to say, say, boy, if you date a woman taller, you the first thing she get mad at, you gonna hit you in your head. So I. So I always thought, like, you know what? Nah, let me keep somebody. Look, keep me a little five. Little five? Eight, five, five.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Damn.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, I said, no, I never dated a woman my height. Oh, okay, my bad. I've never dated a woman my height.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

I mean, taller than me. I'm my height. Six two.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

I dated one six two. I've never dated one six three six, four, six five.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Definitely not, man.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Six five? Yeah. Six two. Don't be scared. Hey, I like for them to get on their tiptoes to kiss me. What do I look like on My tiptoes Kissing a woman.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Ain't nothing wrong with that, huh?

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Man, you out your damn mind. Yeah, I know, Joe. What you think about. See, I'm on my tiptoes kissing her.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Ain't nothing wrong with that.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Now, you know, Joe, most of the time, women have been on their tiptoes kissing you.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

You ain't been on your tiptoes kissing no damn woman.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, hey, hey.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

You never know. You never know till you try it.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

I'm good. I'm good. I don't got old nine. I'm shrinking. So.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah, defying girls that tall, they. They far few in between, Boy. Hey, you got to be in the right place. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's. I'm talking about. That's tall and proportioned, right? I'm talking, right. Y' all know what I'm talking about.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

I got kids.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

I mean, I know what you're talking about, Joe. I'm with you. I'm picking up what you're putting down, baby.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

What you say, Joe?

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

I said, you know, it's hard to find a girl that's tall and she proportioned, right.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

The right.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

You know what I'm talking about. Black eye, blood out. Yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Oh, you volley. You got to get a volleyball player, then. You're right. You're right.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

The volleyball girls. Different. Ain't they all?

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Are they? Hey, you know. You know, O', Shea, he has some legs on her. She about five. She about five, eight. Yeah, I'm talking about good. 155.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Used to go to the games?

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Nah, hell no. You.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

When you was in. When you was in college, you didn't go to no volleyball game. I don't.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

I'm trying to think. Did we have a volleyball team when I was in college? I was in the league. She had. She had a. I think I was, like, 25. She was 20. No, I was 26. She was 22. Because she had just got out of school, right?

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

That boy having tons of fun, Boy, it's up.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, on average, yes, sir. I don't know if I've ever seen one that wasn't fine.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Now, if we'd have a track now, a track. Women threw the disc in the shot.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

I remember them days. Them days over now, though, bro.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

There you go, man. You know where everybody know what you like. You. You have a 12. But she ain't gonna be with five. Five,

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

you know, hey, listen, listen. I. I've had, you know, all different heights and sizes and, you know, weights Ethnicities. And listen, I'm like Skittles, man. I'm every color, everything in eight.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Hey, hey, you gonna taste the rainbow.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

You already said, yo. Hey, everything getting eight.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Hey, taste the rainbow.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

He gonna taste the rainbow for sure.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

I mean, you got to. You know, you got to.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Old fella, he just. He just working on. He just. He only. He a 8th degree, 9th degree tongue fu master. He just keep getting different belts.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Hey, man, it's only one way to get that black belt sometimes. Hey, listen, sometimes you got to set the standard, man. You know?

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

But no, I couldn't imagine that, Joe. Honestly, I could. I mean, I wouldn't feel like a man. I mean, if you're a guy and you on your tiptoes to kiss the woman.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Come on, Joe. You six, seven, six, eight. You on your tiptoes.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

No, because that means. That means she's six, nine. I just can't even see it. I can't see. I'm sorry.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

You go, hey, you go out, you got. She got on heels. You are you black tie. You got a tux on. She got on heels.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

I got these hard bottoms on, and

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

they snap a picture you on your tiptoes.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Hey, ain't never. Hey, hey, ain't nothing wrong with being vulnerable in that position, man, you know, for a change.

[Brianna Stewart]

Hey, hey, you.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

You and your soft era. Ain't nothing wrong with that.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

No, no, no, man. Come on, Ocho.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

I'm just saying. I'm just saying, you need. Don't knock it till you try it.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

I'm just. Look, I mean, look, if you. If you're a short guy, problems, you 5, 2, 5, there's a great chance if you 5, 5, 5 or under as a guy, you probably gonna end up marrying somebody taller than you.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Because most of the time, you know, unless. Unless you like, you know, you date a little person. A little person. But I mean, sometimes they get. As a matter of fact, Brad Williams, you know, he married. He married a. A not a little person. She's taller than he is. But for the most part, if you're a small guy, you're gonna probably end up with a. Yeah, I think.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

I think. I think smaller dudes, they.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

And they.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

They kind of like that. They do, yeah, yeah, yeah, they do. They, I think, like, even when it comes to, like, you know, having a. Offspring and everything, they think about that. They think about, damn, I'm short. But if I give me a tall woman about five, nine, five, ten, and I ain't. But hell, five, six, I might be. I might.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah. You know, if they're in between. Yeah, I get somebody five' five. I'm five' five. Hey, we might have a little person.

[Lily Herman]

Person.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

And nothing wrong with a little person. I'm just saying. Because you look at Tom Cruise in Nicole Kidman. Kanye. What? Kanye 5 5, but Kim, 5 2.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Damn.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

That's what I'm saying. But to see these people in person and to see how small they actually are, it's like, damn you, tiny.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah, yeah, you're right.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Another thing, when you see, when you see celebs, you see them on television and you're like, damn. And then when you actually see them in person, I'm talking about you see them with your own. You like. Damn you tiny. That's. That's the thing my sister asked me all the time. Well, how does. Like, she's not as tall as you thought. See, she probably about 5, 5, 4. That's my height, right? Yeah, that. Was she your height then. But nah, Joe, I'm with you, Joe, we ain't. I, I ain't getting on my tiptoe. Imagine I got on some. I got on some hard bottom shoes and I'm on my tiptoes, my heels off the ground. Come on, Joe.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

I like it.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Or she said Ocho. They said Ocho kissed this girl taller him and had one leg off the ground with his foot back. That would. It say, Joe.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Hey, hey, that's a, that's a nice visual, man. You know, you know, I'm just, I'm just living. I'm just living, man.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

This joker here. Hey, I don't know what to say about you, Ocho, man. Hey, I should have done a background check on you, man.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Listen, you don't gotta do no background check. I live every. I live my life publicly, man. It is what it is, man. You know?

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, y', all right. Y' all said Nicole and Eddie Murphy, she was taller than he was.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Donald]

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[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

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[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

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[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

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[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

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[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

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[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

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[Donald]

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[Lily Herman]

a different take on Formula One? Look no further than no Grip, a new podcast tackling the culture of motor racing's most coveted series. Join me, Lily Herman, as we dive into the underexplored pockets of F1, including the astrology of the current grid.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Lewis Hamilton, Capricorn Sun Cancer Moon Wouldn't you know it? Michael Schumacher is also a Capricorn Sun Cancer Moon.

[Lily Herman]

The story of the sport's most consequential driver Strike. We have one man who, upon hearing that he was going to be fired, freaked out and apparently climbed out the window of the bathroom. And was Daniel Ricardo's illustrious F1 career a success story, a cautionary tale, or some combination of both? He started getting all of this attention and he maybe started to think, I'm bigger than this, I'm better. And plenty of other mishaps, scandals and sagas that have made Formula One a delightful, decadent dumpster fire for more than 75 years. Listen to no Grip on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jemele Hill]

If you're trying to keep up with everything happening on and off the court, we've got you covered on the podcast. Flagrant and Funny.

[Carrie Champion]

You look at the top four number one seeds. What do you think UCLA is? Break down that for me, my friend.

[Jemele Hill]

Obviously, UConn is the overwhelming favorite in this tournament, but I'll be honest, I think people are kind of sleeping on Texas.

[Carrie Champion]

Experts are suggesting that UCLA is the number one challenger to UConn, and that right after that would be Texas. SEC is so is so deep and so thick in just about everything. It really is annoying. So it's UCLA, Texas, South Carolina, LSU. Only ones that could possibly upset UConn

[Jemele Hill]

on flagrant and Funny. We're giving our unfiltered takes on the biggest moments, the conversations everyone's having.

[Carrie Champion]

So whether your bracket is busted or you just want the latest on the tournament, we got you. Listen to Flagrant and Funny with Carrie Champion and Jemele Hill on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.

[John Green]

I'm John Green. You may know me as the author of the Fault in Our Stars. And now, I guess also as the co host of the Away End, a brand new world soccer podcast.

[Daniel Alarcon]

I'm Daniel Alarcon, a writer and journalist, and John and I have known each other since we were kids. My first World cup was Mexico 86. I was nine years old. I watched every game and I fell in love. On our new podcast, the Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World cup for us, soccer.

[John Green]

Football is a story we've shared for over 30 years, since Daniel was the star player on our high school's soccer team.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Very debatable.

[John Green]

And I was their most loyal and sometimes only fan. I love this game. I love its history, its hope, its heartbreak, and above all, its beauty.

[Daniel Alarcon]

Together we'll find out why of all the unimportant things football, soccer is the most important.

[John Green]

Listen to the Away End with Daniel Alarcon and John green on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Miles Turner]

What's up? I'm Miles Turner.

[Brianna Stewart]

And I'm Brianna Stewart.

[Miles Turner]

And our podcast, Game Recognized Game, has never been done before.

[Brianna Stewart]

Two active players giving you a real look at our lives and what we actually think on and off the court.

[Miles Turner]

Nothing's off limits. We talk trade requests.

[Brianna Stewart]

What's the vibe of that? When it's like your star player is like, well, I want to leave and then actually now I'm going to stick. We talk tanking. I mean, honestly, like, I might get in trouble for this answer, but I think it's like, definitely happening in the wnba.

[Miles Turner]

And yeah, we talk about our mistakes, too. They pulled me to the side and was like, hey, man, we got a call last night, man, you can't be rolling around the city like this tonight before games. No, you know, doing this, doing whatever.

[Brianna Stewart]

And of course, family stories. They'll be like, mommy, why did you miss that moment? Do you play basketball? Check out Game Recognized game with Stewie and miles on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Deontay Wilder defeated Derek Chisora via split decision and a scrappy but entertaining heavyweight bout to put himself back in the conversation for a bigger fight. Wilder scored two knockdowns, but was deducted for a point in the fifth, Chisora's 50th and final pro fight. The two judges scored at 115, 111, and 115, 113 for Wilder, but one had it 115, 112 for Chisora or went through the ropes twice, as both men spent much of the fight leaning on each other.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

The Brit appeared to tie in the later rounds, and Wilder landed more as the fight went on. Chazor scored a knockdown in the 11th round, but it was a little too late. Too late. As Wilder controlled the last round to secure the victory. Yeah, Ocho, you watched this fight?

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

What did you think?

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

I mean, I. I enjoyed it. It wasn't a boxing. It wasn't a boxing match, Uncle Joe. Hey, that was. That was a fight.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

That was.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

That was war. It's a very entertaining fight. I mean, it's what you. What you expected from two heavyweights? I don't really think that Wilder slip in the 11th. I think maybe 11th or the 10th. I think he slipped on. On the. On the Canvas song. Yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

I was like, well, damn.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Yeah, he. I think he slipped. Might have been some water, maybe.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

So I would only want.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Man, them dudes out there wrestling everything, man.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Hey, Joe, you know them boys tags.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

That wasn't the sweet side, Ocho. You talking about. You like the sweet size.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

That was not.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Hey, I see a lot of wild punches and all that. It look, hey, Ocho, it didn't look like, you know, like those guys really had much, you know, savvy when it comes to their skill, when they come to their punches. Because I'm looking, I'm like, man, like these dudes in the backyard somewhere, the way they fighting.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Notice about Deontay Wilder. And that's the thing. It's like when he gets somebody in trouble, he really starts swinging wild.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Oh, yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, that's him.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

He trying to connect. And if he connects, boys, lights out.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

And the thing, you tie yourself out. He was tired.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Because if he wasn't tired, he'd have put Tresor. He had chisoria in sleep.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Yeah, he did. I thought he almost got him out of there, too, at 8.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Yep.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

When he caught. When he. When he caught him, all he went. Went between them ropes.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

I thought we would get him up out of there.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

They went over the ropes, pulled him down. I was like, well, damn. Yeah.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Hey, hey, hey, Joe. When it comes to the sweet science and like. Like a pure boxer that's a heavyweight, if you ever see Usyk fight That'd be that. That'd be what he fight. He's a heavyweight, but he fight like he's small.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

He got some hands.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

He got some hands together. Yeah.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Hey, he nice.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah, that's what I like to say. I like to see guys with great footwork can really.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

No, he can fight for a heavyweight.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah, he could.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

He fight like a little man.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, he does. He does. And put punches together. He does. But look, there was some punches thrown. It wasn't a whole lot of that. Look, was it artistic? No, no, no, no.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

It was a. It was a war.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

It was not. It was a war. I mean, hey, they was taking each other, rabbit punching each other. They was in the. In the clutch of poo. And you hit me the back of my head. I'm hit you in the back of your head.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Hey, I wonder. I wonder who Wilder gonna fight next, huh? Because this, this is good for him.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

This.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

This is great momentum. He needed a win, you know, after some tough defeats. So I'm, I listen, I'm happy for Wilder. I'm curious, who. Who is next fight?

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Ocho, you think you can fight Joshua?

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

I mean, Joshua was right there, you know, sitting ringside. That's a possibility. I'm not sure.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Got glass chins. Neither one of them needed. Neither one of them need to see who Fury or what you call him or you sick.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Usick. No, no, no, no, no.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

But if Joshua and Wilder fight, who, who, who, who would y' all get an edge to?

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Oh, that's a good one.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Me too, man.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Joshua's a good one.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

He more of a boxer.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Yeah, he's more. He's more of a pure boxer, too.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Yes. Just a skill set.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

One thing, one thing, though. Even though he's a better boxer, Wilder has a punches chance for sure. He has a punches chance because we

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

know Anthony Joshua chin is glass window pain. It is, Yeah.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

I mean, once you get knocked out, it just. You're more susceptible to get knocked out after that. After the first time. Damn.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

So you would take. You would take water, Ocho?

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Nah, I mean my common sense. I would go with Joshua.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

I would go with Joshua. And yeah, I'm a Wilder, but I would.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

See, I would watch it. I pay to watch it.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

They got about 45 for this, man.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Hey, hey, listen.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

That.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

That was worth 45. Yeah, it was entertaining. It was entertaining. It's not. It's not, you know, not. Not the, the artistry. It's not the sweet science, but it was a war.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

They fought probably I think we agree. I think we all agree. I think it's probably two guys that's a little bit past their prime. Yeah, but it was entertaining. Yeah, yeah, it was entertaining. Jokic outdo Wimby in the OT thriller. Jokic had a game high 40 points, 13 assists, 8 rebounds, 3 blocks, no turnovers. Denver snapped San Antonio's 11 game winning streak and extended his run to 8 straight. Jokic strung together a third outing with at least 40 points and 10 assists in 3 blocks. Only D. Wade has recorded more such games. 5 since blocks first became an official stat in 1973-74. It was also Jokic 7th career aim with at least 30 points, 10 assists and 0 turnovers. Hey, that was. You know what? They're not even in this position if it's not for Aaron Gordon. The job that he did, a man his size, sliding his feet, staying in front of the Aaron Fox, man. Dear and Fox man, that joke. Hey, he quicker the cat on the hot tier roof.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

And every. Everywhere he went, Gordon beat him to the point. No, you're not going there. Yeah, you ain't going there. Nope, you're not going there. Made him airball it and then he came down and found himself, got loose and he dunked the ball home.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Aaron Gordon is an intricate piece.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Yep.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

For the Denver Nuggets. Like, if they got him Uncle Ocho, they probably could beat anybody in a place in a playoff series. Man, listen, this is a hell of a game, man. And these teams mess around and run into each other in the playoffs. It's gonna go seven.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, yep.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Always gonna go seven. Man. I'm talking about Wimby. 34, 18, seven, five blocks. Five blocks. Jokers out here just 48, 13, like.

[Joe (possibly Joe Ford)]

And you saw that step back, that step back shot over Whip. Yeah, over Wimby.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

That one legged shot. He done hit that thing so many times. We don't see him hit that shot so many times against the Lakers in the postseason.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

And then somebody. It ain't no luck. That's his shot.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Nah, nah. Hey, he a bad boy, man. Bad boy.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

He crazy. It's ridiculous.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

I love watching him play, man. I just feel like he played Uncle. I feel like he played. I'm talking about Yogic. I feel like Jokic plays the right way. He never forces the action, you know, if he need to turn it up, he always knows that. And obviously playing against these spurs, he knew that he was gonna have to come out and play big tonight. And every time, bro, he answers the bell like, that's Why I say the west of Gauntlet, bro. Like, you come out the west, you're gonna be so beat up. You're gonna be so beat up, you're gonna probably.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

To come out of the west, you're gonna probably have to beat the Nuggets, OKC or San Antonio. You have to probably beat two or three.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah, you're gonna have to be two of them.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

least.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Two. Yeah.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Oh, we two of them. They got two, and I love that, man. Look here. San Antonio cutting the plate.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah, they got too much. San Antonio got a lot of guys who could play Denver got a lot of guys who could play that. No, they roll like this is an even matchup, like 134 to 136.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

They couldn't stop each other.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

No. Because basically everybody was shooting a pretty good. I mean, and I like that Wimble was putting pressure on him because he got to the free throw line 17 times. So I like the fact that he's putting pressure. Same thing with Jokic. Yoga's getting to the free throw line 15 times. That tells me he's putting pressure on the defense.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yes, sir.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

They're not settling.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Nah, man,

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

but it was a game. I was like, damn.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah. These two heavyweights, bro, I'm talking about going at it. That's gonna be funny.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

It's gonna be very. Look, I can't wait to see who we. Who The.

[Miles Turner]

The.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Because if.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

If.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

And we're gonna talk about this. Luca. Luca. If he doesn't play anymore, he's gonna be over the 65 games. Now that brings somebody else into what?

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Hold on, hold on. If he missed the rest of this season, meaning regular season game, he can't.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

He.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

It's over with. He done. He done. He done for the regular season. It's over with.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Yep. They. Somebody tried to file a petition because he missed two games for the birth of his daughter. But you know, you're going down a slippery slope if you do that. But. No, but this game right here, this game was so entertaining. I mean, the Nuggets. I mean, you thought the spurs, like, had it under control, and here come the Nuggets. Here they come.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah, they gonna always find a way to stay in the game, stay close. And because they got closers, they got guys who play the right way, play hard, compete championship pedigree. It's gonna be hard to beat them dudes in seven game series, man.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Oh, for sure. And you know, and Watson didn't play today, but they got. And the thing is that they got a bench because you look at Watson and Hardaway Jr. Yeah. Valentunius. Valentunas.

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

Yeah. Tyus Jones, Bruce Brown, they got some guys, man.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, they got a nice bench, but

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

they need Gordon to stay healthy boy.

[Ocho (Uncle Ocho)]

Yes. I'm surprised he and Jamal Murray didn't shoot a free throw. But Jamal Murray did have 15 points and 10 assists. Yeah, obviously Yokage with that herculean effort that he had, but this was a

[Joe (Uncle Joe)]

game, it was broken.