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Ocho
Why?
Joe
What's wrong?
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Ocho
San Antonio beat Philly 115 to 102. Stefan Castle 17 points, 13 assists, 10 rebounds. Philly lost his second straight at his battle to stay out of the play in tournament. The Sixers are the half game behind the raptors for the 66 seed in the Eastern Conference. The spurs ruled out Victor when Minyama for the second half after the left rib contusion. A favorite to win the Defensive player of the Year and contender for MVP, needs to play at least 20 minutes in Game 1 of San Antonio's remaining three games to maintain eligibility for postseason award. So he has to take. So he has to play 20 minutes in one game. It can't be 20 minutes total in all three. It has to be one game. Okay.
Joe
Who is it?
Ocho
Wimby. He has to play at least 20 minutes in one game in order to be eligible for the postseason awards.
Joe
Why? He only played 15 minutes tonight.
Ocho
He got injured.
Joe
Oh, did he?
Ocho
Yes.
Joe
So you think you're gonna miss a game?
Ocho
Hell no, man.
Joe
Hey, let me tell y' all something. I like San Antonio, man. I. I'm gonna be honest with y'.
Ocho
All.
Joe
I wouldn't be surprised if they come out the West. They had six guys in double figures night and three of them dudes came off the bench. They. They got a team full of dogs, Ocho. I'm talking about they got some dudes who can go and they've been playing great ball all year. Now when I look at Philly, here's what I don't like. The inconsistency with mb, you know, playing, playing a game, missing two, three games Coming back, playing the game, DJ Edgecomb and, and, and, and, and Maxi, they can't gain a rhythm from that, you know what I mean? You know MB gonna take that challenge tonight. Uncle Ocho going at, going at Winbinyama, you know what I mean? I'm cool with that. But man, Maxi averaged 28 a game. He only had 15 tonight, fellas, 6 for 16. I feel like it's hard for him to kind of gauge the game playing with Paul George and Embiid. I'm just gonna keep it real. And I know Paul George and MB since they've been back, they've been playing pretty good basketball. But man, I, I like to see Edgecomb and Maxi. I like to see them guys out there willing, dealing, doing their thing. Now, I do know San Antonio is a great defensive team.
Uncle
Yeah.
Joe
Ain't giving up nothing easy. So if you think you just gonna come out here as a guard and you gonna get you 30 the easy way. Unless you shay. They ain't going.
Ocho
But they got guys that could at
Joe
Castle and For Sale.
Ocho
And they got Champagne and they got. Obviously they got Wimby back there with them two broomsticks he holding up. They call arms. They get close to the basket. Yeah. They got guys that could defend at a high level and they got guys that can come off the bench, as you said, Joe, and get buckets.
Joe
Yeah.
Ocho
Jackson Barnes has been a starter the large most part of his career. He only had two points tonight. But Kelvin Johnson killed. And Johnson is a bucket.
Joe
Yeah. Yeah.
Ocho
Dylan Harper. Even Luke Cornett chipped in tonight. Normally it's Carter Bryant.
Joe
Think about this. If Dylan Harper was on another team, he a rookie. If he was on another team, Uncle Ocho, maybe he wouldn't be playing significant basketball at this point of the season. But the fact that he's on arguably, well, I think they might be the second best team in the league. Man, this is special to be getting this type of production from a rookie.
Uncle
Yeah.
Joe
Coming off the bench. Because then on any other team, bro, he can be the starting point guard.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
You know what I mean? And he probably would be in competition for rookie of the year. I think. Huh.
Ocho
They'll have to make some decision with Vesel and Champagne. Well, Harper, man, I think obviously Castle's not going no anywhere. It's Fox signed that big deal. But how do you keep Harper on the bench for another two years?
Joe
I think if they end up winning it, you know, you probably run it back next year with him still coming off the bench. But after that, that boy nice man, he is.
Ocho
He is San Antonio. Nice.
Joe
They are, bro. I'm talking about all around. They whole team, they deep.
Uncle
They ain't got. They ain't got no weakness.
Ocho
Nah, they defend, they got offense. Hey, guys that can take you off the bounce. You got Wimby, who's a great bailout.
Joe
They just play turn around.
Ocho
I mean, he can get on the block. He get 10, 15ft, you can't block that shot. You hope he miss it. You ain't blocking it.
Joe
Hey, and if you know you got it, if you know you got him behind you, you can pressure up on defense, play the passing lanes, because if your man beat you here, he gonna have to shoot a shot he normally ain't accustomed to shooting.
Ocho
No.
Joe
Yeah, they got a nice.
Ocho
He's coming off a string of three straight games in which you scored at least 30 points and tally 15 rebounds with three blocks. That was tied for the second longest street since the block became a track became an official stat in 73, 74. Shaquille O' Neal had a four game run in 1999. He definitely was headed there.
Joe
Who is this on?
Ocho
Wemby.
Joe
Oh, yeah.
Ocho
He had three straight games in which he's had 30 points, 15 rebounds.
Joe
Yeah.
Ocho
The longest street since the block became an official stat in 73, 74. Shaq had four such games in 99, 30 points, 15 rebounds with three blocks.
Joe
I didn't see how he got hurt. Did you see how he got hurt?
Ocho
I think he collided with somebody, didn't he?
Uncle
Yeah.
Ocho
Cause you know, y'. All, Y'. All. Y' all basketball players. Y' all ain't nothing but bone anyway.
Joe
Yeah, well, we, you know, we. We. We slim. You know what I mean, Right?
Ocho
Do what that. Joe.
Joe
I said we. We more. We more of slim cut. Guys.
Ocho
Yes.
Joe
It's hard. I'm be honest with y'. All. It's hard for basketball players to really gain weight running that they do. That we do. It's too much running. You can't keep no weight on, man,
Ocho
unless you eating. Because I've seen some basketball keep some weight on.
Joe
Yeah, that's because they.
Ocho
They eat.
Joe
They eating like they start us. But they only playing 10 minutes a night. You're sitting there eating 800 calories. Boy, please.
Ocho
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Julian Edelman from Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jules. All right, real quick, take a look at yourself right now.
Ocho
Why?
Joe
What's wrong?
Julian Edelman
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Ocho
Carson Nova Everly were hired to run the bull front office at the start of 2020 during COVID and went 224254 across six season. Chicago the only really season under his leadership was 2021, 22 which also were the year the team made the playoffs. A five game first round exit the Milwaukee Bucks in 2022. Chicago is 29 and 49, sits in 12th place in the Eastern Conference and will miss the playoffs for the fourth consecutive season.
Joe
They got off to a great start this year too. I don't know if y' all were watching earlier, but when I say like the first 10, 15, 20 games of the season, they were playing decent ball.
Ocho
They were.
Joe
Yeah.
Ocho
You know you had giddy and bruisellas. You know they traded Vucevich. I like Kobe White. Kobe White has been unbelievable in Charlotte coming off the bench.
Joe
Oh man, he been a difference.
Ocho
He's been incredible.
Joe
He has been a difference, huh? Yes. I mean he, he, he comes off the bench and gives him a great spark plug. He can score, he can playmate. He Plays the right way. Obviously he back in North Carolina where he went to school at.
Ocho
Yep.
Joe
You know what I mean? So I think that gives him a little extra juice. And it's fun to watch Charlotte right now, man. They, I mean, they, they probably, they made like a 20 something game jump from last year as far as win.
Ocho
Yeah, yeah. Hey, they playing Joe Canipple ball. I like Brandon Miller, Miles Bridges.
Joe
Oh, they got some guys who can
Uncle
go, hey, Brandon Miller, the same young bull from Alabama, huh?
Joe
Yes. He getting toward it and Lamelo picking up his play, playing the right way, scoring when he need to play, making when he needs to. He can do a little bit of everything. They got a nice team, they got a nice young team.
Ocho
But I'm surprised that the Bulls aren't better. I think Giddy is a phenomenal player.
Joe
Why are you surprised that they not better? What they got over there, that's like,
Ocho
I, well, not now. I mean, hell, they got rid of us. They ain't got no big. I mean, you tr, you, you trade a guy that was Giving you what, 18 and probably 18 and 9. 18 and 10.
Joe
Yeah. Yeah. I wonder what. They got some draft picks back from him because I don't think they got them from, from Boston.
Ocho
They would have. They traded. Did they trade Booster beach to Boston?
Joe
Yeah. I'm saying, what did they get for him though? Some jelly beans, I think. Hey, look, I think, I think Chicago looking to go into the draft and get one of these stars coming out,
Ocho
well, they better hope the, the ping pong ball land on them.
Joe
Yeah, I think that's what they banking on.
Uncle
You know that, you know that Ping. You know how that, you know that system is, man.
Joe
Well, the thing is, in this year's draft, Uncle Oo, just to be realistic, if you get a top eight pick.
Uncle
Yeah.
Joe
Well, you going, you going to have you something special.
Ocho
You right.
Joe
You right. You going to have you something special.
Ocho
I don't care. For me, I, I think AJ debonza gonna be the first pick in the draft. Obviously, if Utah gets that pick, you know he's going there. I think he, I think he played high school ball in Utah, he played college ball in Utah. So it's a seamless, natural transition, but I'm not so sure. It doesn't matter who gets that first pick. They taking AJ debonza.
Joe
That's what I think.
Uncle
You know. What about Peterson?
Ocho
I don't think he's going number one overall.
Joe
I just think, I think Peterson is a great talent. Ocho. I just think this is Like a couple question marks. And probably the biggest question mark is how much does he love playing? I'm just gonna keep it real, bro. How much do you love playing? Because at this point, you know, playing in the NBA is a lot, a lot different from playing in college. You know, we talk 82 games, bro. You playing damn near every other night. You know what I'm saying? You have to really love and enjoy what you do. You know, they gonna invest a lot of money in them top picks, bro. It's. It's a little different nowadays.
Uncle
I know. I just don't see somebody like that getting that good at what they do at their craft without actually enjoying the game that they play.
Ocho
Man.
Joe
I'm seeing some talents. I've seen some time.
Ocho
I've seen guys be talented and be really good that don't love the game. Do they train like they love the game? Do they do the thing necessary to make you think they love the game outside of playing the game?
Joe
Hell no.
Ocho
See, you look at just playing the game. Oh, they love the game. But it's more than playing the game. The playing the game is only Sunday or only Saturday. Basketball is, you know, three, four nights a week. But what about lifting the weights? What about the studying? What about the practice? What about the way they eat? What about they get rest? Those are things that goes to tell you a guy loves the game or not. Not just playing the game. Everybody love playing the game.
Uncle
Yeah. Yeah.
Ocho
That's the fun part.
Joe
Yeah. The training. The training, you know, when ain't nobody watching, you know what you're doing. Because in basketball, it's a lot different from football, fellas. You know, in basketball, you're gonna practice two hours out the day. You got the rest of the day to yourself, to chill. Game night on the road. I don't give a damn what it is. We ain't gotta stay in the hotel. You know what I mean? Yeah. You might got a little something. Something come through. You ain't.
Ocho
Yeah, yeah. Oh, okay.
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Joe
Hey, man, you gotta get it how you live on. We in different cities almost every other night, man. Man, I'm just saying, I. I ain't. Don't. Don't sit here and act like it ain't, you know, it ain't easy now,
Uncle
you know, I mean, I ain't. I ain't no Joe. I ain't never did nothing like that. But go ahead.
Joe
I'm just saying, you know, hey, not today.
Ocho
I mean, maybe the night before the game, not the day of the game, Joe. You ain't trying to do nothing like that before the game.
Joe
I'm saying, okay, if I'm in the city for only one night, you know what I mean? I ain't coming back. We only play this team one time
Ocho
and they building well, you know. You know, like Lutheran say, if only for one night.
Uncle
Damn, Joe. Y' all know, now that I think about it, that is a whole lot of cities, 82 games, man.
Joe
Listen, listen. They don't do no room check. They don't do none of that.
Ocho
Y' all do the room check.
Uncle
I ain't got no curfew, Joe. Y' all ain't got no curfew, man.
Joe
Hell, now, only person gonna be room checking you is your damn girlfriend or your wife.
Ocho
That's it.
Uncle
Damn.
Ocho
Oh, Lord have mercy.
Uncle
I ain't know that joke, man.
Ocho
They got security on the hall right there by the. By the elevator and the doors you got.
Uncle
Hey, you better be in your room by 11 o'. Clock.
Joe
Nah, I'm just keeping.
Ocho
They got come out of chump come out coming by, checking their rooms. No, now, you know, guys might be in the room playing video games or playing cards or something like that. Ain't no. Ain't no.
Joe
No, man. I got like, for instance, like, it's cities that, you know, you go to, you know, people. I ain't necessarily saying it's just, you know, females. I'm saying you may know some cats you went to school with, high school with, college with. And you know, you only go, hey, man, we go out, we get something to eat, let's go bowling. Let's go do like it's this.
Ocho
I ain't trying to see nobody I went to high school with.
Joe
Hey, hold on. You ain't double back on nothing you went to high school with?
Uncle
No, well, you know, everybody you go to high school with, but I mean, after year, by the time you made it, they done got kind of big. Joe.
Joe
No, no, not. Not early in your career, Ocho, you know what I'm saying? It may be something in high school, you know, you thought was nice.
Ocho
You ain't.
Joe
You ain't touching high school. So you like. Hold on.
Uncle
Nah, Joe. Everything nice in high school and got a little fluffy. They're a little bell pepper.
Joe
Joe, that's 10 years. That's. That's your 10 year reunion. That's out. That's 10 years, but two, three years removed from high school, man, please.
Uncle
Joe, think about this. Joe, think about this. And I'm sure people in the Chat could attest to this.
Joe
Those.
Uncle
That was fine as hell. They used to be. Oh, they was. They was them. You know, as far as female, they don't. You know, it don't be that years down the line, Joe.
Joe
I'm saying 10, 15 years down the line, they may not be like that, but you still. You still gonna have. You gonna have a few Ocho that's gonna really take care of themselves and keep themselves up. I don't know where y'. All. Where y' all from, you know? I mean, what y' all got going, what school y' all went to, but where I'm from.
Uncle
Yeah, yeah. I'm just telling you, everybody get, you know, get a little healthy, little weight on them, you know. Ain't nothing wrong with that. I saying, it's never what it used to be. That's not how I remember you in high school, man. It was that one. Like, I couldn't wait to come out in the hallway and see you walk by, because you was that one. Yeah, you know, I mean,
Joe
I, I, I get, I get what you're saying, ojo, but that there is a few, bro. There's a few. Look, look, you know, because, you know, you know, like, in high school, they may be a little slim, you know what I mean? Two, three years out of high school,
Ocho
they done gained a little weight. Good weight, right?
Joe
You know what I'm talking about?
Uncle
Yeah, I feel you. I mean, I ain't really seen nothing like that, Joe. Most of the time you graduate, then had two, three kids, and, you know, they'd be a little bell pepper. Joe.
Joe
Not all of them.
Ocho
Yeah.
Uncle
I mean, yeah, maybe not. Where you from? I'm talking about down here.
Ocho
Miami.
Joe
Conversation.
Ocho
And, Joe, I hate to go against you, but. Ocho, right, Ocho right on this one.
Joe
Hey, I'm telling you, look, two, three years out of high school. Let's say you at Savannah State, you a junior in college.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
You mean to tell me it ain't no girls in high school that you done seen? Or you be like, boy, look, I
Ocho
ain't backtrack in high school.
Joe
You didn't?
Ocho
Nope.
Joe
I mean, I ain't acting like I did. I'm just, you know.
Ocho
Yeah, you did. I know you did.
Joe
I'm just saying. I'm just saying.
Ocho
I ain't acting like I did.
Joe
I'm just saying.
Ocho
But, hey, hey, Ocho. Ocho, I saw a. I saw big things in their future in high school. I'm talking about, you know, a job promotion. I saw big things on the horizon. Just saying,
Uncle
hey, now. Hey, Joe, You. Now you got me thinking. I'm trying to think who was who.
Joe
Who was you. You from Florida, boy, I know y' all got some.
Ocho
What? No way.
Uncle
I'm trying to think who. Who was. Who was the it person?
Ocho
Most of us having. Joe, they was having babies. I mean, a lot of them had babies while we was in school.
Uncle
Yeah.
Ocho
I mean, the youngest was 13. She got pregnant at like, 13. I think she had a kid at 14. She got pregnant in seventh grade. Had the baby in eighth grade.
Joe
Damn.
Ocho
How are you in the eighth grade? 13, 14.
Joe
Hey, I had some girls in my elementary who pregnant in sixth grade. Yeah.
Uncle
Joe.
Ocho
What?
Uncle
Wait, Joe, we. Oh, you know, what? You out there in Arkansas.
Joe
Okay. Yeah, yeah. Project girl. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like.
Ocho
I'm like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, Joe. That was it.
Joe
Yeah. I ain't had no pretty girls in high school, bro.
Ocho
They were pretty in high school.
Uncle
Yeah.
Ocho
I went to college for four years. That was high school. That four years ago.
Joe
And you mean. Tell me all the prettiness gone from.
Ocho
Yeah. Interested. You weren't interested then?
Uncle
Yeah.
Ocho
Now you interested now.
Uncle
Hey, listen, they always interested after. After what they choose don't work out.
Ocho
Exactly. You want to be able to drink and smoke weed. You ain't want me
Uncle
now. You want me two, three kids later.
Joe
But hold on, hold up. You're a little more experienced now. What, you ain't trying. What you trying to white. You ain't trying to wait.
Ocho
I want it. No, I'm good.
Uncle
What we trying to do, Joe?
Joe
Man, let me tell y' all something. At Little Rock Central, where I went to high school at, let me tell y' all something. We. We had all the pretty girls that I. At Central, bro. Like, if you went to another high school in Little Rock before our bell rang when school was out, you see dudes driving through there. You hear me?
Ocho
Damn.
Joe
Yeah, dudes come through there. They.
Ocho
They.
Joe
A lot of the girls that I went to high school with, especially the pretty one, they probably dated somebody at a different school. You know what I mean? Yeah, but we had them, boy. We had them. You hear me?
Ocho
Well, we didn't.
Uncle
Damn. I mean. Hey, Joe, I think we. We had them, too, Joe. I mean, it's Miami, you know? I mean, it's a melting pot. Of course, everyone is gorgeous. But things change in a short amount. In a short amount of time from by the time you graduate to four years later.
Joe
So you ain't had, like, no little skinny girl in high school. And then two, three years later, she gained some good weight. Yeah.
Ocho
I'm. I'm saying. Oh, Joe. I mean, Joe, me, my high school, my girlfriend, high school. When we broke up, I had my girlfriend in college. I ain't look back. I ain't messing with. No, I ain't messed with nobody from.
Joe
All right, okay.
Uncle
And now you got me thinking. I wonder whether.
Ocho
I'm trying to think college is a different story,
Joe
college, something else.
Ocho
Boy,
Uncle
I'm trying
Ocho
to tell a story.
Joe
Hey, yeah. Hey, college.
Uncle
You got me thinking, Joe, what I
Joe
got you thinking about?
Uncle
And now I'm trying. I'm trying to. I'm trying to think back who was fine back in high school, and I wonder where they at and what they doing now, and what do they look like now?
Ocho
After all, you ain't worried about nobody right now. You might have been worried about it when you got out of. When you got out of Oregon State.
Uncle
They were on the topic, huh? That's all. The fact that we on the topic, like it's jogging my memory. I'm like, damn. I wonder where so and so at from 1995, 1996.
Joe
Yeah.
Uncle
That's all.
Joe
Hey,
Ocho
man, I had this one, boy. Hey. She went to a rival high school. Boy, she was so fine.
Joe
Ooh. Like that. What.
Uncle
What's her name? Huh?
Ocho
I ain't telling.
Uncle
We might be able to find him.
Ocho
I know where she is. My sister, see? All the time.
Uncle
Oh, for real?
Ocho
Yeah. You looking for her?
Uncle
Okay, my bad. She's still fine.
Joe
He don't want to say. Man, she pushing 60 here.
Uncle
That might be the one. Never mind.
Ocho
We broke up.
Uncle
What you did wrong?
Ocho
I ain't do nothing wrong.
Uncle
You just said y' all broke up.
Ocho
We did.
Uncle
Well, 98 of the time. It's the.
Ocho
Man, look here, see, if I. If I tell the story, everybody gonna know who it is, and I want people to know who it is. I don't want to put up business out there.
Uncle
Okay, okay, okay, okay. My bad, my bad.
Joe
Hold on. The people you went to high school
Ocho
go know everybody go.
Joe
Yes.
Uncle
Oh, wait, hold on. Y' all was together, and it was private.
Ocho
Hey, no. Hey, no. Hey, man, look here, man. You know what I'm saying? You know.
Uncle
Are you a creeper?
Ocho
Y', all, man, don't. Y'. All. I had padded feet. You could.
Uncle
Okay, I got you. I got you. I got you. I got you. I got you.
Ocho
You know, we. We quietly broke up and.
Joe
Yeah, I know, man. I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie. Some of the best times of my life. Bro, if I'm keeping it real, which I was at high school, bro. Oh, yeah, high school was fun, bro. College, college. When I got to college, I could. I could see my dreams right in front of me. Meaning, like the NBA. I was so focused that it wasn't nothing gonna throw me off my pivot. Same thing in high school, but in high school I had so much fun because I went to high school with a lot of cats who I really grew up with. High school was fun, bro.
Ocho
You threw caution to the wind. Boy, I am so glad. There ain't no way I could have survived with social media now in high school with this, man.
Joe
What you talking about?
Uncle
Hey, with that. With the access and overexposure.
Joe
Hey, what you talking about?
Ocho
No, sir.
Joe
Hey, listen. Cause when I was in high school, boy, you had to. You had to go check. You had to go home and check that call ID to see who calls you. You know what I'm saying?
Uncle
Don't. What you know about that? What you know about that call id, Joe?
Joe
Well, hey, Ocho, I should be. I go straight home and check it. Trying to see. Try to see if this. Hey, let me see if she hit me up or something. Let me see what's going on.
Ocho
Yeah, but that was a good old day. Yes. You find Ocho. Whoa. You talk about. Oh, bye. I'm talking about Stack.
Joe
I'm talking about.
Ocho
That girl had body. Body.
Joe
Hey, hey.
Ocho
Cause.
Joe
Cause you know, when you're in high school, they fine for no reason. They ain't got to work out or nothing.
Ocho
Hey, what's up?
Joe
Right?
Ocho
Yeah, yeah. You, you, you, you with me for a minute, man, Let me stop. I get myself. Drake.
Joe
Let me get a little sweet.
Ocho
Little sweet.
Uncle
Oh, yeah.
Ocho
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Ocho
Why do you need to breathe? So I can think.
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Ocho
I've traded two time WNBA All Star Angel Reese to the Atlanta Dream for first round draft picks in 27 and 28. Angel is the only WNBA player in history to average at least 12 rebounds per game in a season, which she did in 20, 25, 24, and 25. The Angel's Dream jersey sold out fast. Not even her mom was able to get one.
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Ocho
Lisa Leslie gave Angel the nickname ATL Peach Barbie Joe. Seemed like angel got what she wanted. She's a perfect fit. Is she a perfect fit for the city?
Joe
Hell yeah, she a perfect fit. These people gonna get behind her. Y' all already know it. Y' all know how they listen. This is black Hollywood, brother. Yep. They gonna embrace her and everything that she does. You know, whether she. She may even come out with her own shoe now. Does she already have a shoe? No.
Ocho
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She got a shoe. Shoe. Yeah.
Joe
Hey, but hold up, though. Yeah, yeah, you're right. She does. She does have a shoe with Reebok. You're right. But if. If we can keep Brittany Griner and have Angel. Hey, man.
Ocho
Cause. Cause with the chick from. What's the name? From.
Joe
From.
Ocho
She went to Kentucky. She's number one. Overdraft pick. Ryan Howard.
Joe
Yeah, yeah, Ryan Howard. We got a great. Hey, they got a. They got a good team, bro.
Ocho
Absolutely.
Joe
They got a good team. And adding her rebounding machine. Play hard hustle. Yeah, man. It's gonna be a great fit for it.
Ocho
I like it. I think everybody got what they wanted. I think, you know, after kind of some of the comments that she made last year. Yeah, Chicago was ready to move on. I think she was ready to move on. Ideally, I. I Think this is. You can't get any more perfect than this. Yeah, you can't. Hey, she's from the dmv. She can't. You. You can't get it any better than this. Yeah. Only thing, I think Washington has a team. But this is where. This is where she needed to be.
Joe
This is it, Reese.
Ocho
Hey, this is heaven for her.
Joe
Yes, it's.
Uncle
It.
Joe
She gonna.
Uncle
She.
Joe
She gonna love it here. Hey, you know what's funny, bro? My daughter, 12, and she love Angel. Reese. That's, like, her favorite player. I swear, I can't make this up.
Ocho
So we definitely got your ass at all the games.
Joe
Yeah, we're gonna be in some games. Hey, hey, Angel. Reese, if you. If you watching this now. No, I need to get my baby girl a picture with you. You know, we're gonna come check you out, support you. So, you know, good luck in the A. These people gonna get behind you for sure.
Ocho
I'm in the city. Where they at. Yeah, you know who I got? I got Asia. Yeah, I got Asia. I got Chelsea Gray. I got Jackie Young.
Joe
Hey, we're gonna. Hey, I'm about to come down there, man. We're gonna go.
Ocho
We go to a game.
Joe
Yeah. Yeah. What's up? Oh, Joe.
Uncle
Where we going? Hey, Joe, you ever. You ever been to a Dream Game before?
Ocho
Hell, yeah.
Joe
I'd have been to a few.
Uncle
Hey, boy, I went to one. Remember? Remember I went to the Dream Game that one time?
Ocho
Yeah, you went to. Yeah, you told me it was lit, man.
Uncle
I. Joe, I ain't never get this
Ocho
thing like my boy DJ Joe.
Uncle
I ain't never seen nothing like that, boy.
Joe
I'm down, Ocho. It's different. It's different at the women's games. The dream is different out here.
Uncle
It was nice. It was nice, Joe. It was like. Like you in the club. But it's a basketball game going on, and don't let it be no time out, Joe.
Ocho
That's how the Hogs game is.
Joe
Oh, Joe. That's how the house game. Can you imagine?
Ocho
On steroids. So imagine the Hawks. That's how it is.
Uncle
Yeah.
Joe
What they dressed up like the club Ocho.
Ocho
Yes, Lord.
Joe
Oh, we're going down. Damn. Yeah, I know, I know, I know.
Ocho
You just like the club.
Joe
Yeah, I know. You happy. You know, you. You gonna have Cambodia with you. You ain't you. You gonna have them blinders on.
Uncle
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, Joe,
Ocho
we gonna keep him clean. Cambodia? Yeah, go to Houston. But I. I like.
Uncle
Hey, Joe, I could have won my credit card Declined.
Ocho
Any Houston thing. Anything that got Houston on it. Declined.
Uncle
Hey, hey, Joe, I could have wore my cheetah pants to the game, huh?
Joe
Yeah, you could have warmed. Ocho.
Uncle
Hey, when nobody had these things on.
Joe
Wait, look. Cause it really ain't gonna hurt you to look at the menu. You ain't trying to order nothing.
Uncle
Yeah, I mean, matter of fact, Joe. I ain't gonna look at the menu, Joe.
Joe
You ain't gonna look. I mean, you got eyes, Ocho.
Ocho
You ain't.
Uncle
I got eyes. But hey, hey, hey. The stuff on the menu ain't nothing like what I got now.
Joe
Yeah, I know. I know. I. I get it. I get it.
Ocho
I mean, don't. Yo. Just. Cause you. Arby, you order the wagyu, but sometimes you look at the chicken parm, you're like, damn, maybe I should.
Joe
You know, I'm just saying.
Ocho
Don't you. You just look at you. That's all I'm saying. Just because you don't order it doesn't mean you can't read the menu. You just can't order. Again, off the menu, that's all.
Uncle
I can't. I can't read. I can't read.
Ocho
Okay?
Uncle
I can't. I can't read. I ain't mad at.
Ocho
Yo, Joe boy. Hey, Joe, you know, I've been. I'll be in Atlanta, Joe. We might have to go, you know, go to do something.
Joe
Oh, we got. Yeah, we gotta go check them out, huh?
Ocho
No, I'm talking about being, you know, me. You go. You know me, you man. You hang the weekend. Oh, yeah. Say less.
Joe
What you want.
Uncle
Oh, we going this weekend?
Ocho
No,
Joe
we're gonna go by.
Ocho
Yo, I. I talked to y'. All.
Joe
Lying. Yeah.
Ocho
All right. Yeah, yeah. But I was. As we were saying, I think this is a great fit. Atl, Peach Barbie.
Joe
Yeah.
Uncle
Hey, y' all put me in the group chat.
Joe
Hey, hey, I do want to check out that little spot you were talking about, though.
Ocho
That.
Joe
That one little spot. You know what I'm talking about?
Ocho
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay.
Joe
Yeah.
Ocho
Say no more.
Joe
Yeah.
Uncle
Hey, I. I pay. I pay for us.
Ocho
No, no, no.
Joe
I pay.
Uncle
I pay. Hey, Joe, you got my message today on Instagrams and Twitter.
Joe
Yeah. I say, okay. I see you in there doing your little.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
I mean, yeah, Joe boy, that ain't. That ain't enough, though. I'm gonna keep it real with you.
Uncle
Okay?
Joe
Ain't enough. You know, my reach, my Reese. You know, I mean.
Uncle
Hey, Joe. Joe, I'm coming up under that. I'm Coming. I'm coming up under all that now.
Joe
You seen how Fedora done?
Uncle
Hey, my last name ain't Thurman. My last name Johnson. But, hey, I would talk. I was talking basketball. I was talking basketball. But if you want to go. If you want to go that route, I mean, we just gotta get.
Joe
We just. In order for us to really hang out, Ocho, we gotta get the fade out the way. That way I can feel good about myself. Cause it's gonna be hard for me to hang out with you. You know, knowing you the high side of me. You the high side of me. And I posed to just live with it. Like, I, I, I just need three minutes, bro. Then, you know, I give you a hug. I still love you.
Uncle
Hey, hey, hey, hey. Honestly. Honestly, Joe, what's up? Like, you probably ain't gonna want to be my friend, you know? Cause I'm gonna turn your ass every way but loose. You hear me? Hey, hey, listen, you, I love you like a little brother, man, you know? But, I mean, it is. It is what it is. I'm trying to hoop, okay? What I want to see is, I want to see you catch that ball in the block, in the low post or the high post, and try to do all the moves you be doing.
Joe
That's cheating. I ain't gonna even post you up. That's.
Uncle
No, no, no, no, no, no, it's not cheating, Joe. It's not. My strength is my lower body, my lower extremity. So I'm ready up here. I'm good.
Joe
Hey, I don't think. I don't think. I don't think your lateral movement that great. That's why when I get you moving side to side and I get to hit you with that, that you ain't gonna.
Uncle
Joe, Time out. Time out, Joe. You talking to you. You talking to the person with the greatest feet to ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever.
Joe
Yeah, you good in a straight line?
Uncle
Like no straight line, Joe? I'm good.
Ocho
He got football feet, Joe. You say he ain't got no boxing feet?
Joe
Yeah, he ain't shuffling. He ain't keeping nobody in front of him.
Uncle
All right, all right. Okay. You know, I don't even want to talk about it more. I don't want to talk about it no more.
Ocho
All right, Let it go.
Uncle
You gonna get what you're looking for.
Joe
Okay.
Ocho
Say, last partner. I'm right here, baby.
Uncle
Yeah, you. You probably drunk right now, that's all.
Joe
No, I ain't drunk. I'm feeling good.
Ocho
Yeah, I got. We got a little Buzz going on too, man.
Joe
Yeah.
Uncle
Hey, I got.
Joe
You see?
Uncle
You see me? I got my little portiere, too.
Joe
I see. I see, I see. Yeah.
Ocho
Yeah. Yep. You over there, Joe River. This is about high school, Ocho. Talk about college.
Joe
Y' all tripping, bro. High school was fun, man.
Ocho
It was. It was fun, but once I left, I really, you know, that was it for your boy, not me. You know, like I said, like, when I left, my girlfriend was still in college. I mean, still in high school. Mine, too.
Joe
Yeah, when I was a freshman.
Uncle
Hey. Damn. I wonder what. Hey, what? My. Is it.
Joe
Is it.
Uncle
Is it weird to wonder where your girlfriend from high school is at this point?
Ocho
I. I mean, I. I haven't thought about it, actually.
Uncle
Right. I mean. I mean, we talk about it. I just wonder how she's doing. I wonder if she's okay. I'm. I'm curious. That's.
Ocho
Well, I mean, last. Last I heard, she had two. She had two kids. I mean, her kids grown now, right?
Joe
Yeah, so.
Ocho
Yeah. I mean, my high school, my college girlfriend, she had two more kids, right? They're grown. I mean, close to being grown.
Joe
Yeah,
Ocho
but no, I mean.
Uncle
Hey, hey, that's crazy, Joe. When I think about it, Joe, I only dated two people in high school.
Joe
Yeah.
Uncle
Yeah, literally, I'm like. Like dead serious. Really?
Joe
Only two people?
Ocho
That don't mean you ain't shag nobody just because you date. Okay, Date. You had two girlfriends, but that don't mean you ain't put it down.
Uncle
I'm talking about. I'm talking about serious dating, obviously. My oldest daughter, I dated her mom in high school and one other person after that, and that other person after that.
Ocho
I'm curious, how old is your oldest?
Uncle
27.
Joe
Oh, so you got a child with your high school sweetheart?
Uncle
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She took advantage of me, Joe.
Joe
You were young. Didn't know no better.
Uncle
Hey, no, no, no, no, no. I mean, I was irresistible back then, Joe. If you think I look good now, you should have seen me in high school. Joe.
Joe
Hey, hey. Hey. You laid up when you. Man.
Uncle
Hey, I was. I was. Hey, I was. I was a little funny. I was a little funny looking dude back then. I was funny looking back at. Hey, Joe, I could drift, but I put that. I put that thing on, Joe. I'd be out there clean with my clogs and my ballies, my polo sets, you know, my Tommy Hill figure said, Joe. You know, my jean starched up to the T with the white tee with the. With the. Hey, Joe, I was. Hey, Y' all were clean, Joe, but you, you had.
Joe
You has weak pull out game than your man.
Uncle
Yeah, I couldn't even pull out a driveway, Joe. You hear me?
Ocho
But you gotta understand, you know that, Joe, there.
Uncle
Hey, but you, you gotta understand, there was a method to my madness, Joe. I only had kids with people that were athletic.
Joe
That's what's up.
Uncle
Only I don't care how fine you is. I ain't care nothing about you being an IG baddie. I ain't care nothing about having that. Everyone I have a child from understand the athletic background. They give me an advantage when it comes to my child being an athlete. That's all.
Joe
Hey, Ocho, your kid is pretty competitive when it come to you.
Uncle
Every. Yeah, every last one.
Joe
Yeah, man.
Ocho
Every.
Uncle
Every last one.
Joe
Mine is too, bro. All three of them.
Uncle
The funny thing you said about. About playing your son one on one, he was talking about. He'd be cursing.
Joe
Yeah, you. You let it go.
Uncle
Yeah, yeah. And in the midst of battling, in the midst of competing. Yeah. I don't want you to lose that edge. I don't want you to lose that competitive nature.
Ocho
I don't want you to lose that.
Uncle
Listen, I don't want you to lose. Expressing yourself in that moment. I don't.
Joe
You know what? You know what? For me, Ocho, you know, with my oldest son, I just feel like he can control his emotions around me. You know what I mean? Like, don't tell me you can't, bro. We just playing pickup. This ain't no real game. Obviously, we want to win.
Ocho
We competing.
Joe
But for you to just be f bombing and. Yeah, I love that.
Uncle
I love that.
Ocho
Because listen, ain't no. Ain't no way, Joe. Ain't no way my kids would talk like that in front. No, sir, that ain't gonna happen.
Uncle
Hey, we playing a sport. I ain't trying to hear that, man.
Ocho
What we playing.
Uncle
Hey, Joe. Playing a sport. I want you acting the same way I act. I ain't got time for all that. Don't be cursing. All that. No, I ain't got time for all that. Be.
Joe
Be you.
Uncle
Express yourself.
Joe
I'm sorry, I can't do it with Joe.
Uncle
I got you. I got you. I got you.
Ocho
You. You like me, Joe? No, sir. Re.
Uncle
Yeah. Hey, yo.
Joe
Hey,
Uncle
man, go to bed. What are you doing up?
Ocho
Oh, my bad, daddy.
Joe
Oh, okay.
Ocho
You still doing up? No, no, don't do that. Hey, I understand.
Joe
Yeah.
Ocho
You don't talk like that in front of me now.
Joe
Nah. Yeah. No, hey, I'm the Same way, man. Hey, look. Nah, bro, I'll tell you, it's been three years since me and my older played pickup together. He was 16.
Uncle
Yeah.
Ocho
Yeah, Joe, I'm about to be 58. I pay my mama bills. I don't cuss in front of my mama.
Joe
That's what I'm saying.
Ocho
You think you finna cuss in front of me? I still pay half your bills. Hell, no.
Joe
Hey, Ocho. Ocho. Well, I ain't cursed in front of my mama. My grandma. My grandma.
Ocho
No, hold on.
Uncle
I ain't cursed in front of my.
Ocho
Hold on.
Uncle
You think I could curse in front of Bessie May Flowers?
Ocho
Or I can curse in front of Paula Johnson?
Uncle
I ain't cursed in front of him either, but when it comes to competing on that field, man. Joe. I told you, Joe, I ain't wear a mouthpiece for a reason. And it just didn't start when I got to the league, man. I started in the Optimist.
Ocho
Boy, my grandma look at me sideways when I say ass. I said, great. It's in the Bible, but it ain't in there like that. Oh, no, no.
Joe
Yeah.
Ocho
I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't even think about my. I. I couldn't fix my mouth to say sob a mofo.
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Ocho
G.D. no, that ain't what happened. I'm sorry.
Joe
Yeah, it don't sit well with me neither. Hey, look, I can't even focus on the game no more. He out there dropping them F bombs and B's and all.
Uncle
I'm like, hey, hey, hey, See, hey, you know what?
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Uncle
That tell me. Hey, Unc.
Ocho
And.
Uncle
And. And, hey, Unc, that's what it tell me. When I'm playing him, all they got to do is cuss his ass out, see? I mean, I'm gonna be. I'm being your head, huh? Yeah, man, you.
Joe
You grown as hell. I'm talking about my damn son.
Uncle
Well, well, well, well. You gonna be my son when I'm done with you?
Ocho
Okay?
Uncle
You gonna be about something when I'm done with you?
Joe
I'm gonna get in your head, Joe. Get in your head.
Ocho
I'll play like that. Okay, Joe B. Hey, Joe, I think you know what I. Oho from the south, but me and your background, we got a lot of similarities, Joe. We got a lot of similarities.
Joe
I think it's the cancer in us. You know, we. We good people, bro. It's just some. Some stuff we just ain't gonna tolerate.
Ocho
I'm a good person.
Uncle
I'm a Good person, too. I'm a Capricorn. I'm a good person, too, Joe.
Ocho
Hell, no.
Joe
I know. And the funny part, Ocho, I know we always talk about this, but, damn, I worry about my son. Cause y' all got the same birthday,
Uncle
so he kind of, you know, that's my dog. That's my dog, Joe. Sometimes I can't even. I can't even form a complete sentence without cursing, Joe. I can't. You know, it. It's hard for me because it's always been a part of my vernacular, okay? I have an extensive vocabulary, Joe. I just. I just. When you ever. You curse, hey, it's like me. It's like me, right? I'm talking to y', all, and I say, you know what, Uncle Joe, man, I love y', all, man. Now, it. It means something. But when you say, hey, Uncle Joe, man, I love y'. All. See that effing. It adds emphasis on the meaning of what I'm trying to get across to y'.
Joe
All.
Uncle
And it means a lot more. Now, I consider and call those sentence enhancers. So when you cook, Unc, you know how to cook? Joe, you know how to cook. It's like cooking with no seasoning. Curse words is nothing but the seasoning. And it adds flavor to what you're trying to get across. That's all.
Ocho
I was. I was somewhere, and me and my son and my daughter, and my son was telling the story about. Yeah, dad, this dude right here, man, he was being all creepy. He was, like, looking at. Looking at Kayla, and, you know, he walked up on her. I like, mother. I said, whoa, whoa, whoa. You can tell that story without putting mo fo in there. Now, hold on now.
Uncle
Hey. Yeah, you messing up the story.
Ocho
Hey, how's the whole. Whoa, whoa. I appreciate you taking up for your sister. No, leave that mofo out. Not. Just go, okay? Now tell the story how it went, all right? Oh, hell no.
Joe
Right?
Ocho
Hey, I about to knock that mo.
Uncle
Yeah, there.
Joe
Yeah.
Uncle
Hey, uncle, you can't mess up the story like that. Curse words. Curse words add meaning to whatever it is you're trying to get across. You know, black folk. You know how we explain stuff.
Ocho
Hey, listen, you want to explain that to your friends? Have at it.
Joe
Oh, yeah. You know, when they with their friend, now they cutting the rug.
Ocho
I ain't got no problem. They drink when they with their friends. You know, he wanted to get apartment with his sister. I said, no, bro, she a female, right? I don't think she gonna have. Guys, you're not gonna be Able to take that, right? You get your own place. Hey, I'm gonna play for you to get your own place.
Joe
Yeah.
Ocho
I'm gonna pay for her to get her own place. She's a. She needs to have her own place.
Joe
Yeah.
Ocho
So therefore, you not going to be in your feelings.
Joe
Yeah, yeah.
Ocho
I ain't. I ain't no dummy.
Joe
You're right.
Ocho
The same way with you. She don't need to. No, bro. Hell no.
Joe
Get your own place.
Ocho
Everybody cool?
Joe
Yeah. Yeah.
Ocho
It don't be people at the window, see what time she coming in or who she playing over there, cuz I already know how you are, You know? Yeah. Look, I cursed because I came from a family of curses, Uncle. My mom cursed, and people talking about what they get, bro. You think I could curse in front of my grandma, my mom. You think I could in front of my mom, my grandma, my grandpa? You think? Oh, Lord have mercy, man. Listen, I'll tell you what. In a couple of weeks, I'm gonna have my brother come on. Cause as a matter of fact, the day was his birthday, and I called him.
Joe
Yeah.
Ocho
I said, man, he said, man, you don't know how many people I say, spank. What they ask you. They tell me about the story about the teeth. He said. I said, so what'd you tell him? I said. I told him what? Basically what you said, Mr. Barney, don't let your tea jump out the window and run away from you. Hey, I don't play like that, man. You get. Don't catch all the fish, man. You know, G.D. well, I can't catch all them. I don't even know why you said he. But I was thinking about it, guys, when you said. When somebody asked me last night, at the time, you. The only time that I can remember that my grandfather laughed, that he was at something that we said that wasn't on the television is that we got. We got. We were fishing at a place called Needle Eye Lake, and it had started to rain. And as it started to rain, my grandfather started catching the fish. Yeah. My grandmother knew that we on a dirt road, and it's gonna get muddy and we might get stuck.
Uncle
And.
Ocho
And, and. And GR was like, barney, we need to go. We go. He like, ah, damn, man. The fish just started biting. Okay. My grandma ain't say Nothing for about 10, 15 minutes. Barney, we go. Hey. Oh, damn, man. All right. Okay, I'm ready to go.
Joe
Sure enough,
Ocho
we stuck.
Joe
Get out of here.
Ocho
So he gonna walk. So it's me, Spanky, Granny, and Papa. Papa said well, I'm gonna walk. The Guy's name is J.E. stanfield. He said, I'm gonna walk to J.E. i'm gonna get him to come back and pull us out. So he leaves me, Granny, and Spanky there. It's black at this point in time, it's black, dark,
Joe
man.
Ocho
My grandma heard a sound. Ask my brother. My grandma beat us by half a mile. Granny was gone. Granny was gone. I asked Mikey, man, Granny beat us out the woods so quick. And so when we told Papa the story, he just laughed. But, boy, and it just so happens that that's really the only time that we told a story that he laughed. Now, obviously, you know, there are things that come on tv, he would laugh something like that.
Joe
Yeah.
Ocho
But I remember that, like yesterday, it was me a lot late, Barney. God dang Mary, it just started biting. Ah. Shaq revealed his Mount Rushmore today. Jordan, LeBron, Kobe, Steph, Joe, you like Shaq's Mount Rushmore?
Joe
Kobe, Jordan, LeBron. Yeah, I ain't got no problem with that. Okay, Ocho? I mean, they all form hell of five ballers. Obviously,
Ocho
man, he ain't got no old school. He ain't got no. He ain't got no magic. No Bird, no Russell, no Kareem. No Will.
Joe
No, he don't.
Ocho
Shaq got all modern players, everybody after 1980.
Joe
Yeah, you know what? That's kind of rare, too, because, you know, he a little older, and you would think he would at least throw
Ocho
one old, especially like a Magic or a mat, at least. I was thinking Magic. Magic went to. With the nine NBA Finals in 12 years, he won four. Three Finals MVPs, three regular season MVPs. The most, I mean, the most assist in finals history.
Joe
Hell, y' all know Shaq ain't giving too. He ain't giving no bigs. No credit now.
Ocho
Nah, hell no.
Joe
Unless you yoke it to somebody outside of that hell, he ain't giving no Big no credit.
Uncle
Hey, hey, Joe, if. If you had your Mount Rushmore, who you'll be? Who you'll be? A foe?
Joe
It'll definitely be Jordan, Kobe. I'm talking.
Ocho
I'm.
Joe
I'm. I'm gonna pick guys who I grew up watching guys like, it'll be TMac, Penny Hardaway. I like big guys, Ocho.
Uncle
That's your Mount Rushmore all time.
Joe
Yeah, man, I like big guards, bro. Okay, yeah, not. Not necessarily like, you know, guys who knew guys who had great playmaking skills and could score. I ain't, you know, if you just a bona fide score I mean, that's cool, but I like guys who can make guys around them better. You know what I mean? And obviously put the ball in the hole. Like, those are dudes who I grew up. I'm talking about those four dudes, Unc and Ocho. When I tell you my walls in my room when I was a kid, when I was in high school, you couldn't even see what color the walls were. Cause I had nothing but posters of these dudes, bruh.
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Nightcap Hour 2: Wemby CLOSE to MISSING out on AWARDS + Chicago Bulls FIRE VP of Basketball & GM + Angel Reese TRADED to the Atlanta DREAM + Shaq REVEALS his Mt. Rushmore
Shay Shay Media & Playmaker | April 7, 2026
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe ("Unc"), Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson ("Ocho"), and Joe
This episode of Nightcap dives into a wild slate of breaking sports news and lively discussion. Topics include Victor Wembanyama’s injury and award eligibility issues, the Chicago Bulls firing their front office leadership, Angel Reese’s high-profile trade to Atlanta, and Shaquille O'Neal's controversial NBA Mount Rushmore. The hosts keep the energy high with jokes, personal stories, and an unfiltered, authentic tone distinct to nighttime sports talk.
Timestamps: 03:28–09:02
Timestamps: 13:50–16:46
Timestamps: 33:47–37:19
Timestamps: 54:38–57:11
On Wemby’s Defensive Dominance:
On Chicago Bulls’ Front Office Fire:
On Angel Reese in Atlanta:
On Shaq’s Mount Rushmore:
Timestamps: 19:01–32:16
This Nightcap episode offered a rapid-fire take on the NBA, WNBA, and cultural sports topics, highlighted by serious debates about greatness and lighter stories about personal history, competition, and family. If you missed the show, this recap delivers all the essential analysis and a dose of the hosts' unfiltered personalities.