Nightcap Hour 2: Wemby CLOSE to MISSING out on AWARDS + Chicago Bulls FIRE VP of Basketball & GM + Angel Reese TRADED to the Atlanta DREAM + Shaq REVEALS his Mt. Rushmore

Summary

Nightcap Hour 2: Wemby CLOSE to MISSING out on AWARDS + Chicago Bulls FIRE VP of Basketball & GM + Angel Reese TRADED to the Atlanta DREAM + Shaq REVEALS his Mt. Rushmore
Shay Shay Media & Playmaker | April 7, 2026
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe ("Unc"), Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson ("Ocho"), and Joe

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Episode Overview

This episode of Nightcap dives into a wild slate of breaking sports news and lively discussion. Topics include Victor Wembanyama’s injury and award eligibility issues, the Chicago Bulls firing their front office leadership, Angel Reese’s high-profile trade to Atlanta, and Shaquille O'Neal's controversial NBA Mount Rushmore. The hosts keep the energy high with jokes, personal stories, and an unfiltered, authentic tone distinct to nighttime sports talk.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Wembanyama’s Injury and Award Eligibility

Timestamps: 03:28–09:02

• San Antonio Spurs vs. Philadelphia: Spurs win 115-102. Stefan Castle posts a triple double.
• Wemby’s Status:
  • Wemby (Victor Wembanyama) ruled out with a left rib contusion, threatening his eligibility for major postseason awards.
  • Award Rule: As a Defensive Player of the Year and MVP contender, Wemby needs 20 minutes in at least one of the Spurs' final three games to qualify for postseason awards.
    • Ocho: “He has to play at least 20 minutes in one game in order to be eligible for the postseason awards.” [04:09]
• San Antonio’s Depth:
  • Praised for having “six guys in double figures” and significant bench contributions.
    • Joe: “They got a team full of dogs… I wouldn't be surprised if they come out the West.” [04:26]
• Philly’s Struggles:
  • Doubts about Embiid’s consistency and Philadelphia’s ability to gel.
  • Joe: “The inconsistency with Embiid… Maxi averaged 28 a game, only had 15 tonight.” [04:30]
• Wemby’s Rare Streak:
  • Wemby had three straight games of 30+ points, 15+ rebounds, and 3+ blocks—the second-longest since 1973–74. Only Shaq had more. [08:19]

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Chicago Bulls Fire Front Office

Timestamps: 13:50–16:46

• Leadership Fired:
  • Bulls fire VP Arturas Karnisovas and GM Marc Eversley after a disappointing tenure (224–254 over 6 years, only one playoff appearance).
  • Ocho: “Chicago… sits in 12th place in the Eastern Conference and will miss the playoffs for the fourth consecutive season.” [13:50]
• Team Changes:
  • Early season optimism faded; trades, especially moving Vucevic, backfired.
  • Ocho: “I like Kobe White… he’s been incredible in Charlotte coming off the bench.” [14:42]
• Draft Hopes:
  • Discussion about Bulls banking on a top pick.
    • Joe: “Chicago looking to go into the draft and get one of these stars coming out.” [16:13]
  • Ocho: “They better hope the ping pong ball land on them.” [16:27]
• Top Prospects:
  • AJ DeBonza predicted to go #1.
    • Ocho: “I think AJ DeBonza gonna be the first pick in the draft.” [16:52]
  • Peterson’s passion for the game questioned despite his talent.

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Angel Reese TRADED to Atlanta Dream

Timestamps: 33:47–37:19

• Trade Details:
  • Angel Reese traded from Chicago Sky to Atlanta Dream for 2027 & 2028 first-round picks.
  • Angel is the only WNBA player to average over 12 rebounds per game for a season—did it twice.
  • Reese's Dream jersey sold out instantly—even her mom couldn’t get one.
    • Ocho: “Angel is the only WNBA player in history to average at least 12 rebounds per game in a season.” [33:47]
• Impact & Fit:
  • Lisa Leslie gives Reese the moniker “ATL Peach Barbie.”
  • Joe (on fit in Atlanta): “Hell yeah, she a perfect fit. These people gonna get behind her… this is black Hollywood, brother.” [34:22]
  • Teamed with Ryan Howard and Brittany Griner (if retained), Atlanta is positioned as a contender.
  • Personal touch: Joe reveals his daughter is a big Angel Reese fan and promises to support Dream games.
    • Joe: “Hey, Angel Reese, if you watching this…I need to get my baby girl a picture with you.” [36:00]

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Shaq’s NBA Mount Rushmore

Timestamps: 54:38–57:11

• Shaq’s Picks: Jordan, LeBron, Kobe, Steph
  • Shaq leaves out legends like Magic, Bird, Kareem, Russell, Wilt, and any true bigs.
  • Ocho: “He ain’t got no Magic, no Bird, no Russell, no Kareem, no Wilt… everybody after 1980.” [55:16]
• Panel Reaction:
  • Acknowledgment that Shaq broke with tradition, favoring more recent stars.
  • Discussion on personal Mount Rushmores.
    • Joe: “It’ll definitely be Jordan, Kobe. I like big guards… Guys who can make guys around them better and put the ball in the hole.” [57:11]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

On Wemby’s Defensive Dominance:

• Ocho [08:19]: “He’s coming off a string of three straight games in which he scored at least 30 points, 15 rebounds, with three blocks… second longest streak since the block became an official stat.”

On Chicago Bulls’ Front Office Fire:

• Ocho [13:50]: “Chicago will miss the playoffs for the fourth consecutive season.”

On Angel Reese in Atlanta:

• Joe [34:22]: “Hell yeah, she a perfect fit. These people gonna get behind her… this is black Hollywood, brother.”

On Shaq’s Mount Rushmore:

• Ocho [55:16]: “Man, he ain’t got no old school. He ain’t got no Magic, no Bird, no Russell, no Kareem, no Wilt. Shaq got all modern players, everybody after 1980.”

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Other Memorable Segments

Player Development & Mentality

• What it takes for college stars to succeed long-term (love of the game vs. raw talent).
  • Joe: “Do they train like they love the game?... The playing the game is only Sunday or only Saturday. Basketball is, you know, three, four nights a week. But what about lifting the weights? What about the studying?” [18:02]

Light-Hearted Banter: Memories & Storytelling

Timestamps: 19:01–32:16

• Candid, humorous reminiscing about high school, old flames, and standards.
  • Uncle: “Hey, Joe, I could drift, but I put that thing on, Joe. I’d be out there clean with my clogs and my ballies, my polo sets.” [43:57]
• Parenting, cursing, and competitive fire in sports and family environments.
  • Uncle: “Curse words is nothing but the seasoning. And it adds flavor to what you’re trying to get across. That’s all.” [49:36]

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Important Timestamps

• Wemby Injury & Award Eligibility: 03:28–09:02
• Chicago Bulls Fire VP & GM: 13:50–16:46
• Draft Discussion & Prospects: 16:46–18:37
• Angel Reese TRADED to Atlanta Dream: 33:47–37:19
• Shaq Reveals His NBA Mount Rushmore: 54:38–57:11

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Tone & Style

• Unfiltered, humorous, and personal – As always, Shannon, Ocho, and Joe bring their trademark blend of sports insight and real-life storytelling. They keep it conversational, competitive, and relatable.
• The mix of straight sports talk, visceral analysis, and playful nostalgia sets Nightcap apart from daytime sports shows.

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Conclusion

This Nightcap episode offered a rapid-fire take on the NBA, WNBA, and cultural sports topics, highlighted by serious debates about greatness and lighter stories about personal history, competition, and family. If you missed the show, this recap delivers all the essential analysis and a dose of the hosts' unfiltered personalities.

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San Antonio beat Philly 115 to 102. Stefan Castle 17 points, 13 assists, 10 rebounds. Philly lost his second straight at his battle to stay out of the play in tournament. The Sixers are the half game behind the raptors for the 66 seed in the Eastern Conference. The spurs ruled out Victor when Minyama for the second half after the left rib contusion. A favorite to win the Defensive player of the Year and contender for MVP, needs to play at least 20 minutes in Game 1 of San Antonio's remaining three games to maintain eligibility for postseason award. So he has to take. So he has to play 20 minutes in one game. It can't be 20 minutes total in all three. It has to be one game. Okay.

[Joe]

Who is it?

[Ocho]

Wimby. He has to play at least 20 minutes in one game in order to be eligible for the postseason awards.

[Joe]

Why? He only played 15 minutes tonight.

[Ocho]

He got injured.

[Joe]

Oh, did he?

[Ocho]

Yes.

[Joe]

So you think you're gonna miss a game?

[Ocho]

Hell no, man.

[Joe]

Hey, let me tell y' all something. I like San Antonio, man. I. I'm gonna be honest with y'.

[Ocho]

All.

[Joe]

I wouldn't be surprised if they come out the West. They had six guys in double figures night and three of them dudes came off the bench. They. They got a team full of dogs, Ocho. I'm talking about they got some dudes who can go and they've been playing great ball all year. Now when I look at Philly, here's what I don't like. The inconsistency with mb, you know, playing, playing a game, missing two, three games Coming back, playing the game, DJ Edgecomb and, and, and, and, and Maxi, they can't gain a rhythm from that, you know what I mean? You know MB gonna take that challenge tonight. Uncle Ocho going at, going at Winbinyama, you know what I mean? I'm cool with that. But man, Maxi averaged 28 a game. He only had 15 tonight, fellas, 6 for 16. I feel like it's hard for him to kind of gauge the game playing with Paul George and Embiid. I'm just gonna keep it real. And I know Paul George and MB since they've been back, they've been playing pretty good basketball. But man, I, I like to see Edgecomb and Maxi. I like to see them guys out there willing, dealing, doing their thing. Now, I do know San Antonio is a great defensive team.

[Uncle]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Ain't giving up nothing easy. So if you think you just gonna come out here as a guard and you gonna get you 30 the easy way. Unless you shay. They ain't going.

[Ocho]

But they got guys that could at

[Joe]

Castle and For Sale.

[Ocho]

And they got Champagne and they got. Obviously they got Wimby back there with them two broomsticks he holding up. They call arms. They get close to the basket. Yeah. They got guys that could defend at a high level and they got guys that can come off the bench, as you said, Joe, and get buckets.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Jackson Barnes has been a starter the large most part of his career. He only had two points tonight. But Kelvin Johnson killed. And Johnson is a bucket.

[Joe]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ocho]

Dylan Harper. Even Luke Cornett chipped in tonight. Normally it's Carter Bryant.

[Joe]

Think about this. If Dylan Harper was on another team, he a rookie. If he was on another team, Uncle Ocho, maybe he wouldn't be playing significant basketball at this point of the season. But the fact that he's on arguably, well, I think they might be the second best team in the league. Man, this is special to be getting this type of production from a rookie.

[Uncle]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Coming off the bench. Because then on any other team, bro, he can be the starting point guard.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

You know what I mean? And he probably would be in competition for rookie of the year. I think. Huh.

[Ocho]

They'll have to make some decision with Vesel and Champagne. Well, Harper, man, I think obviously Castle's not going no anywhere. It's Fox signed that big deal. But how do you keep Harper on the bench for another two years?

[Joe]

I think if they end up winning it, you know, you probably run it back next year with him still coming off the bench. But after that, that boy nice man, he is.

[Ocho]

He is San Antonio. Nice.

[Joe]

They are, bro. I'm talking about all around. They whole team, they deep.

[Uncle]

They ain't got. They ain't got no weakness.

[Ocho]

Nah, they defend, they got offense. Hey, guys that can take you off the bounce. You got Wimby, who's a great bailout.

[Joe]

They just play turn around.

[Ocho]

I mean, he can get on the block. He get 10, 15ft, you can't block that shot. You hope he miss it. You ain't blocking it.

[Joe]

Hey, and if you know you got it, if you know you got him behind you, you can pressure up on defense, play the passing lanes, because if your man beat you here, he gonna have to shoot a shot he normally ain't accustomed to shooting.

[Ocho]

No.

[Joe]

Yeah, they got a nice.

[Ocho]

He's coming off a string of three straight games in which you scored at least 30 points and tally 15 rebounds with three blocks. That was tied for the second longest street since the block became a track became an official stat in 73, 74. Shaquille O' Neal had a four game run in 1999. He definitely was headed there.

[Joe]

Who is this on?

[Ocho]

Wemby.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah.

[Ocho]

He had three straight games in which he's had 30 points, 15 rebounds.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

The longest street since the block became an official stat in 73, 74. Shaq had four such games in 99, 30 points, 15 rebounds with three blocks.

[Joe]

I didn't see how he got hurt. Did you see how he got hurt?

[Ocho]

I think he collided with somebody, didn't he?

[Uncle]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Cause you know, y'. All, Y'. All. Y' all basketball players. Y' all ain't nothing but bone anyway.

[Joe]

Yeah, well, we, you know, we. We. We slim. You know what I mean, Right?

[Ocho]

Do what that. Joe.

[Joe]

I said we. We more. We more of slim cut. Guys.

[Ocho]

Yes.

[Joe]

It's hard. I'm be honest with y'. All. It's hard for basketball players to really gain weight running that they do. That we do. It's too much running. You can't keep no weight on, man,

[Ocho]

unless you eating. Because I've seen some basketball keep some weight on.

[Joe]

Yeah, that's because they.

[Ocho]

They eat.

[Joe]

They eating like they start us. But they only playing 10 minutes a night. You're sitting there eating 800 calories. Boy, please.

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[Ocho]

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[Joe]

What's wrong?

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[Ocho]

Carson Nova Everly were hired to run the bull front office at the start of 2020 during COVID and went 224254 across six season. Chicago the only really season under his leadership was 2021, 22 which also were the year the team made the playoffs. A five game first round exit the Milwaukee Bucks in 2022. Chicago is 29 and 49, sits in 12th place in the Eastern Conference and will miss the playoffs for the fourth consecutive season.

[Joe]

They got off to a great start this year too. I don't know if y' all were watching earlier, but when I say like the first 10, 15, 20 games of the season, they were playing decent ball.

[Ocho]

They were.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

You know you had giddy and bruisellas. You know they traded Vucevich. I like Kobe White. Kobe White has been unbelievable in Charlotte coming off the bench.

[Joe]

Oh man, he been a difference.

[Ocho]

He's been incredible.

[Joe]

He has been a difference, huh? Yes. I mean he, he, he comes off the bench and gives him a great spark plug. He can score, he can playmate. He Plays the right way. Obviously he back in North Carolina where he went to school at.

[Ocho]

Yep.

[Joe]

You know what I mean? So I think that gives him a little extra juice. And it's fun to watch Charlotte right now, man. They, I mean, they, they probably, they made like a 20 something game jump from last year as far as win.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah. Hey, they playing Joe Canipple ball. I like Brandon Miller, Miles Bridges.

[Joe]

Oh, they got some guys who can

[Uncle]

go, hey, Brandon Miller, the same young bull from Alabama, huh?

[Joe]

Yes. He getting toward it and Lamelo picking up his play, playing the right way, scoring when he need to play, making when he needs to. He can do a little bit of everything. They got a nice team, they got a nice young team.

[Ocho]

But I'm surprised that the Bulls aren't better. I think Giddy is a phenomenal player.

[Joe]

Why are you surprised that they not better? What they got over there, that's like,

[Ocho]

I, well, not now. I mean, hell, they got rid of us. They ain't got no big. I mean, you tr, you, you trade a guy that was Giving you what, 18 and probably 18 and 9. 18 and 10.

[Joe]

Yeah. Yeah. I wonder what. They got some draft picks back from him because I don't think they got them from, from Boston.

[Ocho]

They would have. They traded. Did they trade Booster beach to Boston?

[Joe]

Yeah. I'm saying, what did they get for him though? Some jelly beans, I think. Hey, look, I think, I think Chicago looking to go into the draft and get one of these stars coming out,

[Ocho]

well, they better hope the, the ping pong ball land on them.

[Joe]

Yeah, I think that's what they banking on.

[Uncle]

You know that, you know that Ping. You know how that, you know that system is, man.

[Joe]

Well, the thing is, in this year's draft, Uncle Oo, just to be realistic, if you get a top eight pick.

[Uncle]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Well, you going, you going to have you something special.

[Ocho]

You right.

[Joe]

You right. You going to have you something special.

[Ocho]

I don't care. For me, I, I think AJ debonza gonna be the first pick in the draft. Obviously, if Utah gets that pick, you know he's going there. I think he, I think he played high school ball in Utah, he played college ball in Utah. So it's a seamless, natural transition, but I'm not so sure. It doesn't matter who gets that first pick. They taking AJ debonza.

[Joe]

That's what I think.

[Uncle]

You know. What about Peterson?

[Ocho]

I don't think he's going number one overall.

[Joe]

I just think, I think Peterson is a great talent. Ocho. I just think this is Like a couple question marks. And probably the biggest question mark is how much does he love playing? I'm just gonna keep it real, bro. How much do you love playing? Because at this point, you know, playing in the NBA is a lot, a lot different from playing in college. You know, we talk 82 games, bro. You playing damn near every other night. You know what I'm saying? You have to really love and enjoy what you do. You know, they gonna invest a lot of money in them top picks, bro. It's. It's a little different nowadays.

[Uncle]

I know. I just don't see somebody like that getting that good at what they do at their craft without actually enjoying the game that they play.

[Ocho]

Man.

[Joe]

I'm seeing some talents. I've seen some time.

[Ocho]

I've seen guys be talented and be really good that don't love the game. Do they train like they love the game? Do they do the thing necessary to make you think they love the game outside of playing the game?

[Joe]

Hell no.

[Ocho]

See, you look at just playing the game. Oh, they love the game. But it's more than playing the game. The playing the game is only Sunday or only Saturday. Basketball is, you know, three, four nights a week. But what about lifting the weights? What about the studying? What about the practice? What about the way they eat? What about they get rest? Those are things that goes to tell you a guy loves the game or not. Not just playing the game. Everybody love playing the game.

[Uncle]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ocho]

That's the fun part.

[Joe]

Yeah. The training. The training, you know, when ain't nobody watching, you know what you're doing. Because in basketball, it's a lot different from football, fellas. You know, in basketball, you're gonna practice two hours out the day. You got the rest of the day to yourself, to chill. Game night on the road. I don't give a damn what it is. We ain't gotta stay in the hotel. You know what I mean? Yeah. You might got a little something. Something come through. You ain't.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah. Oh, okay.

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Before the game, Joe.

[Joe]

Hey, man, you gotta get it how you live on. We in different cities almost every other night, man. Man, I'm just saying, I. I ain't. Don't. Don't sit here and act like it ain't, you know, it ain't easy now,

[Uncle]

you know, I mean, I ain't. I ain't no Joe. I ain't never did nothing like that. But go ahead.

[Joe]

I'm just saying, you know, hey, not today.

[Ocho]

I mean, maybe the night before the game, not the day of the game, Joe. You ain't trying to do nothing like that before the game.

[Joe]

I'm saying, okay, if I'm in the city for only one night, you know what I mean? I ain't coming back. We only play this team one time

[Ocho]

and they building well, you know. You know, like Lutheran say, if only for one night.

[Uncle]

Damn, Joe. Y' all know, now that I think about it, that is a whole lot of cities, 82 games, man.

[Joe]

Listen, listen. They don't do no room check. They don't do none of that.

[Ocho]

Y' all do the room check.

[Uncle]

I ain't got no curfew, Joe. Y' all ain't got no curfew, man.

[Joe]

Hell, now, only person gonna be room checking you is your damn girlfriend or your wife.

[Ocho]

That's it.

[Uncle]

Damn.

[Ocho]

Oh, Lord have mercy.

[Uncle]

I ain't know that joke, man.

[Ocho]

They got security on the hall right there by the. By the elevator and the doors you got.

[Uncle]

Hey, you better be in your room by 11 o'. Clock.

[Joe]

Nah, I'm just keeping.

[Ocho]

They got come out of chump come out coming by, checking their rooms. No, now, you know, guys might be in the room playing video games or playing cards or something like that. Ain't no. Ain't no.

[Joe]

No, man. I got like, for instance, like, it's cities that, you know, you go to, you know, people. I ain't necessarily saying it's just, you know, females. I'm saying you may know some cats you went to school with, high school with, college with. And you know, you only go, hey, man, we go out, we get something to eat, let's go bowling. Let's go do like it's this.

[Ocho]

I ain't trying to see nobody I went to high school with.

[Joe]

Hey, hold on. You ain't double back on nothing you went to high school with?

[Uncle]

No, well, you know, everybody you go to high school with, but I mean, after year, by the time you made it, they done got kind of big. Joe.

[Joe]

No, no, not. Not early in your career, Ocho, you know what I'm saying? It may be something in high school, you know, you thought was nice.

[Ocho]

You ain't.

[Joe]

You ain't touching high school. So you like. Hold on.

[Uncle]

Nah, Joe. Everything nice in high school and got a little fluffy. They're a little bell pepper.

[Joe]

Joe, that's 10 years. That's. That's your 10 year reunion. That's out. That's 10 years, but two, three years removed from high school, man, please.

[Uncle]

Joe, think about this. Joe, think about this. And I'm sure people in the Chat could attest to this.

[Joe]

Those.

[Uncle]

That was fine as hell. They used to be. Oh, they was. They was them. You know, as far as female, they don't. You know, it don't be that years down the line, Joe.

[Joe]

I'm saying 10, 15 years down the line, they may not be like that, but you still. You still gonna have. You gonna have a few Ocho that's gonna really take care of themselves and keep themselves up. I don't know where y'. All. Where y' all from, you know? I mean, what y' all got going, what school y' all went to, but where I'm from.

[Uncle]

Yeah, yeah. I'm just telling you, everybody get, you know, get a little healthy, little weight on them, you know. Ain't nothing wrong with that. I saying, it's never what it used to be. That's not how I remember you in high school, man. It was that one. Like, I couldn't wait to come out in the hallway and see you walk by, because you was that one. Yeah, you know, I mean,

[Joe]

I, I, I get, I get what you're saying, ojo, but that there is a few, bro. There's a few. Look, look, you know, because, you know, you know, like, in high school, they may be a little slim, you know what I mean? Two, three years out of high school,

[Ocho]

they done gained a little weight. Good weight, right?

[Joe]

You know what I'm talking about?

[Uncle]

Yeah, I feel you. I mean, I ain't really seen nothing like that, Joe. Most of the time you graduate, then had two, three kids, and, you know, they'd be a little bell pepper. Joe.

[Joe]

Not all of them.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle]

I mean, yeah, maybe not. Where you from? I'm talking about down here.

[Ocho]

Miami.

[Joe]

Conversation.

[Ocho]

And, Joe, I hate to go against you, but. Ocho, right, Ocho right on this one.

[Joe]

Hey, I'm telling you, look, two, three years out of high school. Let's say you at Savannah State, you a junior in college.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

You mean to tell me it ain't no girls in high school that you done seen? Or you be like, boy, look, I

[Ocho]

ain't backtrack in high school.

[Joe]

You didn't?

[Ocho]

Nope.

[Joe]

I mean, I ain't acting like I did. I'm just, you know.

[Ocho]

Yeah, you did. I know you did.

[Joe]

I'm just saying. I'm just saying.

[Ocho]

I ain't acting like I did.

[Joe]

I'm just saying.

[Ocho]

But, hey, hey, Ocho. Ocho, I saw a. I saw big things in their future in high school. I'm talking about, you know, a job promotion. I saw big things on the horizon. Just saying,

[Uncle]

hey, now. Hey, Joe, You. Now you got me thinking. I'm trying to think who was who.

[Joe]

Who was you. You from Florida, boy, I know y' all got some.

[Ocho]

What? No way.

[Uncle]

I'm trying to think who. Who was. Who was the it person?

[Ocho]

Most of us having. Joe, they was having babies. I mean, a lot of them had babies while we was in school.

[Uncle]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

I mean, the youngest was 13. She got pregnant at like, 13. I think she had a kid at 14. She got pregnant in seventh grade. Had the baby in eighth grade.

[Joe]

Damn.

[Ocho]

How are you in the eighth grade? 13, 14.

[Joe]

Hey, I had some girls in my elementary who pregnant in sixth grade. Yeah.

[Uncle]

Joe.

[Ocho]

What?

[Uncle]

Wait, Joe, we. Oh, you know, what? You out there in Arkansas.

[Joe]

Okay. Yeah, yeah. Project girl. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like.

[Ocho]

I'm like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, Joe. That was it.

[Joe]

Yeah. I ain't had no pretty girls in high school, bro.

[Ocho]

They were pretty in high school.

[Uncle]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

I went to college for four years. That was high school. That four years ago.

[Joe]

And you mean. Tell me all the prettiness gone from.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Interested. You weren't interested then?

[Uncle]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Now you interested now.

[Uncle]

Hey, listen, they always interested after. After what they choose don't work out.

[Ocho]

Exactly. You want to be able to drink and smoke weed. You ain't want me

[Uncle]

now. You want me two, three kids later.

[Joe]

But hold on, hold up. You're a little more experienced now. What, you ain't trying. What you trying to white. You ain't trying to wait.

[Ocho]

I want it. No, I'm good.

[Uncle]

What we trying to do, Joe?

[Joe]

Man, let me tell y' all something. At Little Rock Central, where I went to high school at, let me tell y' all something. We. We had all the pretty girls that I. At Central, bro. Like, if you went to another high school in Little Rock before our bell rang when school was out, you see dudes driving through there. You hear me?

[Ocho]

Damn.

[Joe]

Yeah, dudes come through there. They.

[Ocho]

They.

[Joe]

A lot of the girls that I went to high school with, especially the pretty one, they probably dated somebody at a different school. You know what I mean? Yeah, but we had them, boy. We had them. You hear me?

[Ocho]

Well, we didn't.

[Uncle]

Damn. I mean. Hey, Joe, I think we. We had them, too, Joe. I mean, it's Miami, you know? I mean, it's a melting pot. Of course, everyone is gorgeous. But things change in a short amount. In a short amount of time from by the time you graduate to four years later.

[Joe]

So you ain't had, like, no little skinny girl in high school. And then two, three years later, she gained some good weight. Yeah.

[Ocho]

I'm. I'm saying. Oh, Joe. I mean, Joe, me, my high school, my girlfriend, high school. When we broke up, I had my girlfriend in college. I ain't look back. I ain't messing with. No, I ain't messed with nobody from.

[Joe]

All right, okay.

[Uncle]

And now you got me thinking. I wonder whether.

[Ocho]

I'm trying to think college is a different story,

[Joe]

college, something else.

[Ocho]

Boy,

[Uncle]

I'm trying

[Ocho]

to tell a story.

[Joe]

Hey, yeah. Hey, college.

[Uncle]

You got me thinking, Joe, what I

[Joe]

got you thinking about?

[Uncle]

And now I'm trying. I'm trying to. I'm trying to think back who was fine back in high school, and I wonder where they at and what they doing now, and what do they look like now?

[Ocho]

After all, you ain't worried about nobody right now. You might have been worried about it when you got out of. When you got out of Oregon State.

[Uncle]

They were on the topic, huh? That's all. The fact that we on the topic, like it's jogging my memory. I'm like, damn. I wonder where so and so at from 1995, 1996.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle]

That's all.

[Joe]

Hey,

[Ocho]

man, I had this one, boy. Hey. She went to a rival high school. Boy, she was so fine.

[Joe]

Ooh. Like that. What.

[Uncle]

What's her name? Huh?

[Ocho]

I ain't telling.

[Uncle]

We might be able to find him.

[Ocho]

I know where she is. My sister, see? All the time.

[Uncle]

Oh, for real?

[Ocho]

Yeah. You looking for her?

[Uncle]

Okay, my bad. She's still fine.

[Joe]

He don't want to say. Man, she pushing 60 here.

[Uncle]

That might be the one. Never mind.

[Ocho]

We broke up.

[Uncle]

What you did wrong?

[Ocho]

I ain't do nothing wrong.

[Uncle]

You just said y' all broke up.

[Ocho]

We did.

[Uncle]

Well, 98 of the time. It's the.

[Ocho]

Man, look here, see, if I. If I tell the story, everybody gonna know who it is, and I want people to know who it is. I don't want to put up business out there.

[Uncle]

Okay, okay, okay, okay. My bad, my bad.

[Joe]

Hold on. The people you went to high school

[Ocho]

go know everybody go.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Uncle]

Oh, wait, hold on. Y' all was together, and it was private.

[Ocho]

Hey, no. Hey, no. Hey, man, look here, man. You know what I'm saying? You know.

[Uncle]

Are you a creeper?

[Ocho]

Y', all, man, don't. Y'. All. I had padded feet. You could.

[Uncle]

Okay, I got you. I got you. I got you. I got you. I got you.

[Ocho]

You know, we. We quietly broke up and.

[Joe]

Yeah, I know, man. I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie. Some of the best times of my life. Bro, if I'm keeping it real, which I was at high school, bro. Oh, yeah, high school was fun, bro. College, college. When I got to college, I could. I could see my dreams right in front of me. Meaning, like the NBA. I was so focused that it wasn't nothing gonna throw me off my pivot. Same thing in high school, but in high school I had so much fun because I went to high school with a lot of cats who I really grew up with. High school was fun, bro.

[Ocho]

You threw caution to the wind. Boy, I am so glad. There ain't no way I could have survived with social media now in high school with this, man.

[Joe]

What you talking about?

[Uncle]

Hey, with that. With the access and overexposure.

[Joe]

Hey, what you talking about?

[Ocho]

No, sir.

[Joe]

Hey, listen. Cause when I was in high school, boy, you had to. You had to go check. You had to go home and check that call ID to see who calls you. You know what I'm saying?

[Uncle]

Don't. What you know about that? What you know about that call id, Joe?

[Joe]

Well, hey, Ocho, I should be. I go straight home and check it. Trying to see. Try to see if this. Hey, let me see if she hit me up or something. Let me see what's going on.

[Ocho]

Yeah, but that was a good old day. Yes. You find Ocho. Whoa. You talk about. Oh, bye. I'm talking about Stack.

[Joe]

I'm talking about.

[Ocho]

That girl had body. Body.

[Joe]

Hey, hey.

[Ocho]

Cause.

[Joe]

Cause you know, when you're in high school, they fine for no reason. They ain't got to work out or nothing.

[Ocho]

Hey, what's up?

[Joe]

Right?

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah. You, you, you, you with me for a minute, man, Let me stop. I get myself. Drake.

[Joe]

Let me get a little sweet.

[Ocho]

Little sweet.

[Uncle]

Oh, yeah.

[Ocho]

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[Ocho]

Why do you need to breathe? So I can think.

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[Ocho]

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[Ocho]

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[Ocho]

I've traded two time WNBA All Star Angel Reese to the Atlanta Dream for first round draft picks in 27 and 28. Angel is the only WNBA player in history to average at least 12 rebounds per game in a season, which she did in 20, 25, 24, and 25. The Angel's Dream jersey sold out fast. Not even her mom was able to get one.

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Damn.

[Ocho]

Lisa Leslie gave Angel the nickname ATL Peach Barbie Joe. Seemed like angel got what she wanted. She's a perfect fit. Is she a perfect fit for the city?

[Joe]

Hell yeah, she a perfect fit. These people gonna get behind her. Y' all already know it. Y' all know how they listen. This is black Hollywood, brother. Yep. They gonna embrace her and everything that she does. You know, whether she. She may even come out with her own shoe now. Does she already have a shoe? No.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She got a shoe. Shoe. Yeah.

[Joe]

Hey, but hold up, though. Yeah, yeah, you're right. She does. She does have a shoe with Reebok. You're right. But if. If we can keep Brittany Griner and have Angel. Hey, man.

[Ocho]

Cause. Cause with the chick from. What's the name? From.

[Joe]

From.

[Ocho]

She went to Kentucky. She's number one. Overdraft pick. Ryan Howard.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, Ryan Howard. We got a great. Hey, they got a. They got a good team, bro.

[Ocho]

Absolutely.

[Joe]

They got a good team. And adding her rebounding machine. Play hard hustle. Yeah, man. It's gonna be a great fit for it.

[Ocho]

I like it. I think everybody got what they wanted. I think, you know, after kind of some of the comments that she made last year. Yeah, Chicago was ready to move on. I think she was ready to move on. Ideally, I. I Think this is. You can't get any more perfect than this. Yeah, you can't. Hey, she's from the dmv. She can't. You. You can't get it any better than this. Yeah. Only thing, I think Washington has a team. But this is where. This is where she needed to be.

[Joe]

This is it, Reese.

[Ocho]

Hey, this is heaven for her.

[Joe]

Yes, it's.

[Uncle]

It.

[Joe]

She gonna.

[Uncle]

She.

[Joe]

She gonna love it here. Hey, you know what's funny, bro? My daughter, 12, and she love Angel. Reese. That's, like, her favorite player. I swear, I can't make this up.

[Ocho]

So we definitely got your ass at all the games.

[Joe]

Yeah, we're gonna be in some games. Hey, hey, Angel. Reese, if you. If you watching this now. No, I need to get my baby girl a picture with you. You know, we're gonna come check you out, support you. So, you know, good luck in the A. These people gonna get behind you for sure.

[Ocho]

I'm in the city. Where they at. Yeah, you know who I got? I got Asia. Yeah, I got Asia. I got Chelsea Gray. I got Jackie Young.

[Joe]

Hey, we're gonna. Hey, I'm about to come down there, man. We're gonna go.

[Ocho]

We go to a game.

[Joe]

Yeah. Yeah. What's up? Oh, Joe.

[Uncle]

Where we going? Hey, Joe, you ever. You ever been to a Dream Game before?

[Ocho]

Hell, yeah.

[Joe]

I'd have been to a few.

[Uncle]

Hey, boy, I went to one. Remember? Remember I went to the Dream Game that one time?

[Ocho]

Yeah, you went to. Yeah, you told me it was lit, man.

[Uncle]

I. Joe, I ain't never get this

[Ocho]

thing like my boy DJ Joe.

[Uncle]

I ain't never seen nothing like that, boy.

[Joe]

I'm down, Ocho. It's different. It's different at the women's games. The dream is different out here.

[Uncle]

It was nice. It was nice, Joe. It was like. Like you in the club. But it's a basketball game going on, and don't let it be no time out, Joe.

[Ocho]

That's how the Hogs game is.

[Joe]

Oh, Joe. That's how the house game. Can you imagine?

[Ocho]

On steroids. So imagine the Hawks. That's how it is.

[Uncle]

Yeah.

[Joe]

What they dressed up like the club Ocho.

[Ocho]

Yes, Lord.

[Joe]

Oh, we're going down. Damn. Yeah, I know, I know, I know.

[Ocho]

You just like the club.

[Joe]

Yeah, I know. You happy. You know, you. You gonna have Cambodia with you. You ain't you. You gonna have them blinders on.

[Uncle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, Joe,

[Ocho]

we gonna keep him clean. Cambodia? Yeah, go to Houston. But I. I like.

[Uncle]

Hey, Joe, I could have won my credit card Declined.

[Ocho]

Any Houston thing. Anything that got Houston on it. Declined.

[Uncle]

Hey, hey, Joe, I could have wore my cheetah pants to the game, huh?

[Joe]

Yeah, you could have warmed. Ocho.

[Uncle]

Hey, when nobody had these things on.

[Joe]

Wait, look. Cause it really ain't gonna hurt you to look at the menu. You ain't trying to order nothing.

[Uncle]

Yeah, I mean, matter of fact, Joe. I ain't gonna look at the menu, Joe.

[Joe]

You ain't gonna look. I mean, you got eyes, Ocho.

[Ocho]

You ain't.

[Uncle]

I got eyes. But hey, hey, hey. The stuff on the menu ain't nothing like what I got now.

[Joe]

Yeah, I know. I know. I. I get it. I get it.

[Ocho]

I mean, don't. Yo. Just. Cause you. Arby, you order the wagyu, but sometimes you look at the chicken parm, you're like, damn, maybe I should.

[Joe]

You know, I'm just saying.

[Ocho]

Don't you. You just look at you. That's all I'm saying. Just because you don't order it doesn't mean you can't read the menu. You just can't order. Again, off the menu, that's all.

[Uncle]

I can't. I can't read. I can't read.

[Ocho]

Okay?

[Uncle]

I can't. I can't read. I ain't mad at.

[Ocho]

Yo, Joe boy. Hey, Joe, you know, I've been. I'll be in Atlanta, Joe. We might have to go, you know, go to do something.

[Joe]

Oh, we got. Yeah, we gotta go check them out, huh?

[Ocho]

No, I'm talking about being, you know, me. You go. You know me, you man. You hang the weekend. Oh, yeah. Say less.

[Joe]

What you want.

[Uncle]

Oh, we going this weekend?

[Ocho]

No,

[Joe]

we're gonna go by.

[Ocho]

Yo, I. I talked to y'. All.

[Joe]

Lying. Yeah.

[Ocho]

All right. Yeah, yeah. But I was. As we were saying, I think this is a great fit. Atl, Peach Barbie.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle]

Hey, y' all put me in the group chat.

[Joe]

Hey, hey, I do want to check out that little spot you were talking about, though.

[Ocho]

That.

[Joe]

That one little spot. You know what I'm talking about?

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Say no more.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle]

Hey, I. I pay. I pay for us.

[Ocho]

No, no, no.

[Joe]

I pay.

[Uncle]

I pay. Hey, Joe, you got my message today on Instagrams and Twitter.

[Joe]

Yeah. I say, okay. I see you in there doing your little.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I mean, yeah, Joe boy, that ain't. That ain't enough, though. I'm gonna keep it real with you.

[Uncle]

Okay?

[Joe]

Ain't enough. You know, my reach, my Reese. You know, I mean.

[Uncle]

Hey, Joe. Joe, I'm coming up under that. I'm Coming. I'm coming up under all that now.

[Joe]

You seen how Fedora done?

[Uncle]

Hey, my last name ain't Thurman. My last name Johnson. But, hey, I would talk. I was talking basketball. I was talking basketball. But if you want to go. If you want to go that route, I mean, we just gotta get.

[Joe]

We just. In order for us to really hang out, Ocho, we gotta get the fade out the way. That way I can feel good about myself. Cause it's gonna be hard for me to hang out with you. You know, knowing you the high side of me. You the high side of me. And I posed to just live with it. Like, I, I, I just need three minutes, bro. Then, you know, I give you a hug. I still love you.

[Uncle]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. Honestly. Honestly, Joe, what's up? Like, you probably ain't gonna want to be my friend, you know? Cause I'm gonna turn your ass every way but loose. You hear me? Hey, hey, listen, you, I love you like a little brother, man, you know? But, I mean, it is. It is what it is. I'm trying to hoop, okay? What I want to see is, I want to see you catch that ball in the block, in the low post or the high post, and try to do all the moves you be doing.

[Joe]

That's cheating. I ain't gonna even post you up. That's.

[Uncle]

No, no, no, no, no, no, it's not cheating, Joe. It's not. My strength is my lower body, my lower extremity. So I'm ready up here. I'm good.

[Joe]

Hey, I don't think. I don't think. I don't think your lateral movement that great. That's why when I get you moving side to side and I get to hit you with that, that you ain't gonna.

[Uncle]

Joe, Time out. Time out, Joe. You talking to you. You talking to the person with the greatest feet to ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever.

[Joe]

Yeah, you good in a straight line?

[Uncle]

Like no straight line, Joe? I'm good.

[Ocho]

He got football feet, Joe. You say he ain't got no boxing feet?

[Joe]

Yeah, he ain't shuffling. He ain't keeping nobody in front of him.

[Uncle]

All right, all right. Okay. You know, I don't even want to talk about it more. I don't want to talk about it no more.

[Ocho]

All right, Let it go.

[Uncle]

You gonna get what you're looking for.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Ocho]

Say, last partner. I'm right here, baby.

[Uncle]

Yeah, you. You probably drunk right now, that's all.

[Joe]

No, I ain't drunk. I'm feeling good.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I got. We got a little Buzz going on too, man.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle]

Hey, I got.

[Joe]

You see?

[Uncle]

You see me? I got my little portiere, too.

[Joe]

I see. I see, I see. Yeah.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Yep. You over there, Joe River. This is about high school, Ocho. Talk about college.

[Joe]

Y' all tripping, bro. High school was fun, man.

[Ocho]

It was. It was fun, but once I left, I really, you know, that was it for your boy, not me. You know, like I said, like, when I left, my girlfriend was still in college. I mean, still in high school. Mine, too.

[Joe]

Yeah, when I was a freshman.

[Uncle]

Hey. Damn. I wonder what. Hey, what? My. Is it.

[Joe]

Is it.

[Uncle]

Is it weird to wonder where your girlfriend from high school is at this point?

[Ocho]

I. I mean, I. I haven't thought about it, actually.

[Uncle]

Right. I mean. I mean, we talk about it. I just wonder how she's doing. I wonder if she's okay. I'm. I'm curious. That's.

[Ocho]

Well, I mean, last. Last I heard, she had two. She had two kids. I mean, her kids grown now, right?

[Joe]

Yeah, so.

[Ocho]

Yeah. I mean, my high school, my college girlfriend, she had two more kids, right? They're grown. I mean, close to being grown.

[Joe]

Yeah,

[Ocho]

but no, I mean.

[Uncle]

Hey, hey, that's crazy, Joe. When I think about it, Joe, I only dated two people in high school.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle]

Yeah, literally, I'm like. Like dead serious. Really?

[Joe]

Only two people?

[Ocho]

That don't mean you ain't shag nobody just because you date. Okay, Date. You had two girlfriends, but that don't mean you ain't put it down.

[Uncle]

I'm talking about. I'm talking about serious dating, obviously. My oldest daughter, I dated her mom in high school and one other person after that, and that other person after that.

[Ocho]

I'm curious, how old is your oldest?

[Uncle]

27.

[Joe]

Oh, so you got a child with your high school sweetheart?

[Uncle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She took advantage of me, Joe.

[Joe]

You were young. Didn't know no better.

[Uncle]

Hey, no, no, no, no, no. I mean, I was irresistible back then, Joe. If you think I look good now, you should have seen me in high school. Joe.

[Joe]

Hey, hey. Hey. You laid up when you. Man.

[Uncle]

Hey, I was. I was. Hey, I was. I was a little funny. I was a little funny looking dude back then. I was funny looking back at. Hey, Joe, I could drift, but I put that. I put that thing on, Joe. I'd be out there clean with my clogs and my ballies, my polo sets, you know, my Tommy Hill figure said, Joe. You know, my jean starched up to the T with the white tee with the. With the. Hey, Joe, I was. Hey, Y' all were clean, Joe, but you, you had.

[Joe]

You has weak pull out game than your man.

[Uncle]

Yeah, I couldn't even pull out a driveway, Joe. You hear me?

[Ocho]

But you gotta understand, you know that, Joe, there.

[Uncle]

Hey, but you, you gotta understand, there was a method to my madness, Joe. I only had kids with people that were athletic.

[Joe]

That's what's up.

[Uncle]

Only I don't care how fine you is. I ain't care nothing about you being an IG baddie. I ain't care nothing about having that. Everyone I have a child from understand the athletic background. They give me an advantage when it comes to my child being an athlete. That's all.

[Joe]

Hey, Ocho, your kid is pretty competitive when it come to you.

[Uncle]

Every. Yeah, every last one.

[Joe]

Yeah, man.

[Ocho]

Every.

[Uncle]

Every last one.

[Joe]

Mine is too, bro. All three of them.

[Uncle]

The funny thing you said about. About playing your son one on one, he was talking about. He'd be cursing.

[Joe]

Yeah, you. You let it go.

[Uncle]

Yeah, yeah. And in the midst of battling, in the midst of competing. Yeah. I don't want you to lose that edge. I don't want you to lose that competitive nature.

[Ocho]

I don't want you to lose that.

[Uncle]

Listen, I don't want you to lose. Expressing yourself in that moment. I don't.

[Joe]

You know what? You know what? For me, Ocho, you know, with my oldest son, I just feel like he can control his emotions around me. You know what I mean? Like, don't tell me you can't, bro. We just playing pickup. This ain't no real game. Obviously, we want to win.

[Ocho]

We competing.

[Joe]

But for you to just be f bombing and. Yeah, I love that.

[Uncle]

I love that.

[Ocho]

Because listen, ain't no. Ain't no way, Joe. Ain't no way my kids would talk like that in front. No, sir, that ain't gonna happen.

[Uncle]

Hey, we playing a sport. I ain't trying to hear that, man.

[Ocho]

What we playing.

[Uncle]

Hey, Joe. Playing a sport. I want you acting the same way I act. I ain't got time for all that. Don't be cursing. All that. No, I ain't got time for all that. Be.

[Joe]

Be you.

[Uncle]

Express yourself.

[Joe]

I'm sorry, I can't do it with Joe.

[Uncle]

I got you. I got you. I got you.

[Ocho]

You. You like me, Joe? No, sir. Re.

[Uncle]

Yeah. Hey, yo.

[Joe]

Hey,

[Uncle]

man, go to bed. What are you doing up?

[Ocho]

Oh, my bad, daddy.

[Joe]

Oh, okay.

[Ocho]

You still doing up? No, no, don't do that. Hey, I understand.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

You don't talk like that in front of me now.

[Joe]

Nah. Yeah. No, hey, I'm the Same way, man. Hey, look. Nah, bro, I'll tell you, it's been three years since me and my older played pickup together. He was 16.

[Uncle]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Yeah, Joe, I'm about to be 58. I pay my mama bills. I don't cuss in front of my mama.

[Joe]

That's what I'm saying.

[Ocho]

You think you finna cuss in front of me? I still pay half your bills. Hell, no.

[Joe]

Hey, Ocho. Ocho. Well, I ain't cursed in front of my mama. My grandma. My grandma.

[Ocho]

No, hold on.

[Uncle]

I ain't cursed in front of my.

[Ocho]

Hold on.

[Uncle]

You think I could curse in front of Bessie May Flowers?

[Ocho]

Or I can curse in front of Paula Johnson?

[Uncle]

I ain't cursed in front of him either, but when it comes to competing on that field, man. Joe. I told you, Joe, I ain't wear a mouthpiece for a reason. And it just didn't start when I got to the league, man. I started in the Optimist.

[Ocho]

Boy, my grandma look at me sideways when I say ass. I said, great. It's in the Bible, but it ain't in there like that. Oh, no, no.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't even think about my. I. I couldn't fix my mouth to say sob a mofo.

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What?

[Ocho]

G.D. no, that ain't what happened. I'm sorry.

[Joe]

Yeah, it don't sit well with me neither. Hey, look, I can't even focus on the game no more. He out there dropping them F bombs and B's and all.

[Uncle]

I'm like, hey, hey, hey, See, hey, you know what?

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[Uncle]

That tell me. Hey, Unc.

[Ocho]

And.

[Uncle]

And. And, hey, Unc, that's what it tell me. When I'm playing him, all they got to do is cuss his ass out, see? I mean, I'm gonna be. I'm being your head, huh? Yeah, man, you.

[Joe]

You grown as hell. I'm talking about my damn son.

[Uncle]

Well, well, well, well. You gonna be my son when I'm done with you?

[Ocho]

Okay?

[Uncle]

You gonna be about something when I'm done with you?

[Joe]

I'm gonna get in your head, Joe. Get in your head.

[Ocho]

I'll play like that. Okay, Joe B. Hey, Joe, I think you know what I. Oho from the south, but me and your background, we got a lot of similarities, Joe. We got a lot of similarities.

[Joe]

I think it's the cancer in us. You know, we. We good people, bro. It's just some. Some stuff we just ain't gonna tolerate.

[Ocho]

I'm a good person.

[Uncle]

I'm a Good person, too. I'm a Capricorn. I'm a good person, too, Joe.

[Ocho]

Hell, no.

[Joe]

I know. And the funny part, Ocho, I know we always talk about this, but, damn, I worry about my son. Cause y' all got the same birthday,

[Uncle]

so he kind of, you know, that's my dog. That's my dog, Joe. Sometimes I can't even. I can't even form a complete sentence without cursing, Joe. I can't. You know, it. It's hard for me because it's always been a part of my vernacular, okay? I have an extensive vocabulary, Joe. I just. I just. When you ever. You curse, hey, it's like me. It's like me, right? I'm talking to y', all, and I say, you know what, Uncle Joe, man, I love y', all, man. Now, it. It means something. But when you say, hey, Uncle Joe, man, I love y'. All. See that effing. It adds emphasis on the meaning of what I'm trying to get across to y'.

[Joe]

All.

[Uncle]

And it means a lot more. Now, I consider and call those sentence enhancers. So when you cook, Unc, you know how to cook? Joe, you know how to cook. It's like cooking with no seasoning. Curse words is nothing but the seasoning. And it adds flavor to what you're trying to get across. That's all.

[Ocho]

I was. I was somewhere, and me and my son and my daughter, and my son was telling the story about. Yeah, dad, this dude right here, man, he was being all creepy. He was, like, looking at. Looking at Kayla, and, you know, he walked up on her. I like, mother. I said, whoa, whoa, whoa. You can tell that story without putting mo fo in there. Now, hold on now.

[Uncle]

Hey. Yeah, you messing up the story.

[Ocho]

Hey, how's the whole. Whoa, whoa. I appreciate you taking up for your sister. No, leave that mofo out. Not. Just go, okay? Now tell the story how it went, all right? Oh, hell no.

[Joe]

Right?

[Ocho]

Hey, I about to knock that mo.

[Uncle]

Yeah, there.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle]

Hey, uncle, you can't mess up the story like that. Curse words. Curse words add meaning to whatever it is you're trying to get across. You know, black folk. You know how we explain stuff.

[Ocho]

Hey, listen, you want to explain that to your friends? Have at it.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah. You know, when they with their friend, now they cutting the rug.

[Ocho]

I ain't got no problem. They drink when they with their friends. You know, he wanted to get apartment with his sister. I said, no, bro, she a female, right? I don't think she gonna have. Guys, you're not gonna be Able to take that, right? You get your own place. Hey, I'm gonna play for you to get your own place.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

I'm gonna pay for her to get her own place. She's a. She needs to have her own place.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

So therefore, you not going to be in your feelings.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ocho]

I ain't. I ain't no dummy.

[Joe]

You're right.

[Ocho]

The same way with you. She don't need to. No, bro. Hell no.

[Joe]

Get your own place.

[Ocho]

Everybody cool?

[Joe]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ocho]

It don't be people at the window, see what time she coming in or who she playing over there, cuz I already know how you are, You know? Yeah. Look, I cursed because I came from a family of curses, Uncle. My mom cursed, and people talking about what they get, bro. You think I could curse in front of my grandma, my mom. You think I could in front of my mom, my grandma, my grandpa? You think? Oh, Lord have mercy, man. Listen, I'll tell you what. In a couple of weeks, I'm gonna have my brother come on. Cause as a matter of fact, the day was his birthday, and I called him.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

I said, man, he said, man, you don't know how many people I say, spank. What they ask you. They tell me about the story about the teeth. He said. I said, so what'd you tell him? I said. I told him what? Basically what you said, Mr. Barney, don't let your tea jump out the window and run away from you. Hey, I don't play like that, man. You get. Don't catch all the fish, man. You know, G.D. well, I can't catch all them. I don't even know why you said he. But I was thinking about it, guys, when you said. When somebody asked me last night, at the time, you. The only time that I can remember that my grandfather laughed, that he was at something that we said that wasn't on the television is that we got. We got. We were fishing at a place called Needle Eye Lake, and it had started to rain. And as it started to rain, my grandfather started catching the fish. Yeah. My grandmother knew that we on a dirt road, and it's gonna get muddy and we might get stuck.

[Uncle]

And.

[Ocho]

And, and. And GR was like, barney, we need to go. We go. He like, ah, damn, man. The fish just started biting. Okay. My grandma ain't say Nothing for about 10, 15 minutes. Barney, we go. Hey. Oh, damn, man. All right. Okay, I'm ready to go.

[Joe]

Sure enough,

[Ocho]

we stuck.

[Joe]

Get out of here.

[Ocho]

So he gonna walk. So it's me, Spanky, Granny, and Papa. Papa said well, I'm gonna walk. The Guy's name is J.E. stanfield. He said, I'm gonna walk to J.E. i'm gonna get him to come back and pull us out. So he leaves me, Granny, and Spanky there. It's black at this point in time, it's black, dark,

[Joe]

man.

[Ocho]

My grandma heard a sound. Ask my brother. My grandma beat us by half a mile. Granny was gone. Granny was gone. I asked Mikey, man, Granny beat us out the woods so quick. And so when we told Papa the story, he just laughed. But, boy, and it just so happens that that's really the only time that we told a story that he laughed. Now, obviously, you know, there are things that come on tv, he would laugh something like that.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

But I remember that, like yesterday, it was me a lot late, Barney. God dang Mary, it just started biting. Ah. Shaq revealed his Mount Rushmore today. Jordan, LeBron, Kobe, Steph, Joe, you like Shaq's Mount Rushmore?

[Joe]

Kobe, Jordan, LeBron. Yeah, I ain't got no problem with that. Okay, Ocho? I mean, they all form hell of five ballers. Obviously,

[Ocho]

man, he ain't got no old school. He ain't got no. He ain't got no magic. No Bird, no Russell, no Kareem. No Will.

[Joe]

No, he don't.

[Ocho]

Shaq got all modern players, everybody after 1980.

[Joe]

Yeah, you know what? That's kind of rare, too, because, you know, he a little older, and you would think he would at least throw

[Ocho]

one old, especially like a Magic or a mat, at least. I was thinking Magic. Magic went to. With the nine NBA Finals in 12 years, he won four. Three Finals MVPs, three regular season MVPs. The most, I mean, the most assist in finals history.

[Joe]

Hell, y' all know Shaq ain't giving too. He ain't giving no bigs. No credit now.

[Ocho]

Nah, hell no.

[Joe]

Unless you yoke it to somebody outside of that hell, he ain't giving no Big no credit.

[Uncle]

Hey, hey, Joe, if. If you had your Mount Rushmore, who you'll be? Who you'll be? A foe?

[Joe]

It'll definitely be Jordan, Kobe. I'm talking.

[Ocho]

I'm.

[Joe]

I'm. I'm gonna pick guys who I grew up watching guys like, it'll be TMac, Penny Hardaway. I like big guys, Ocho.

[Uncle]

That's your Mount Rushmore all time.

[Joe]

Yeah, man, I like big guards, bro. Okay, yeah, not. Not necessarily like, you know, guys who knew guys who had great playmaking skills and could score. I ain't, you know, if you just a bona fide score I mean, that's cool, but I like guys who can make guys around them better. You know what I mean? And obviously put the ball in the hole. Like, those are dudes who I grew up. I'm talking about those four dudes, Unc and Ocho. When I tell you my walls in my room when I was a kid, when I was in high school, you couldn't even see what color the walls were. Cause I had nothing but posters of these dudes, bruh.

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