Nightcap Hour 3: Anthony Edwards BACK For GAME 1?! + Q & Ayyyy

Summary

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Nightcap Hour 3: Anthony Edwards BACK For GAME 1?! + Q & Ayyyy

Podcast: Nightcap (Shay Shay Media & Playmaker)
Date: May 4, 2026
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson, with guest ISO Joe Johnson

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Episode Overview

This episode of Nightcap centers around hot NBA playoff storylines, especially the status of Anthony Edwards for the Minnesota Timberwolves as they face the Spurs. The trio—Shannon Sharpe, Chad Johnson, and ISO Joe Johnson—debate Edwards’ injury and Minnesota’s chances, before diving into spirited fan Q&As that touch on everything from LeBron James’ legacy to fishing challenges, baseball batting, and life advice. The episode showcases the show’s signature unfiltered, humorous banter, with each host sharing personal stories and strong opinions on today’s sports debates.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Anthony Edwards’ Status & Timberwolves vs. Spurs Playoff Preview

[03:32 – 08:50]

• Edwards Cleared for Court Activity:
  Shannon reports Anthony Edwards is questionable for Game 1, with recovery clips on an underwater treadmill.

  • “That underwater treadmill don’t tell me anything because there’s no buoyancy.” – Shannon Sharpe, [05:12]

• Skepticism on Edwards’ Readiness:
  Both Joe and Shannon agree treadmill footage isn’t proof he’s near-ready, but Minnesota should aim to have him fully healthy for home games.

  • Joe: "If you just want to keep it 100... have ant man 100% healthy for games 3 and 4 when you at home, bro. That would be the most pivotal point of the season."

• Can Minnesota Upset the Spurs?
  The Timberwolves are labeled gritty and hungry, with emphasis on matchups like Rudy Gobert vs. Victor Wembanyama ("the alien"). The consensus: It’s possible, but a healthy Ant is essential.

• Chad Calls Out Cat & Rudy:
  Ocho tells Karl-Anthony Towns and Rudy Gobert to silence doubters and deliver in the block against tough opposition.

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2. Bet Recap & Knicks Ticket Banter

[09:03 – 12:37]

• Winning Bets:
  The crew reviews their recent prop picks, hyping up successful calls with playful celebration.

  • "If you bet with your A... You got your night look come up." – Shannon Sharpe, [09:37]

• Knicks Courtside Tickets:
  Ocho jokes about trying to get courtside Knicks tickets through connections or even a shoutout to owner James Dolan.

  • “Hey, James Dolan. What's up? It's Ocho...If you could do me a favor... I would love to be a guest of yours.” – Chad Johnson, [11:14]

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3. Fan Q&A: Athlete & NBA Debates

[12:37 – 43:14, select highlights below]

Locker Room Wins & Coach Reactions: ([13:34])

• Joe and Shannon talk about how coaches often save criticism for postgame film rather than ruin immediate celebrations.

SGA’s All-Time Guard Status: ([15:08])

• If Shai Gilgeous-Alexander wins another title and MVP:
  "He ain't going in front of Magic and Steph...unless he starts stacking MVPs and titles, then maybe." – Shannon [15:37–16:39]
  Historical context supplied—LeBron, Bird, and Jordan’s back-to-back MVPs and titles.

Baseball Batting Contest: ([19:46])

• Hilarious exchange over who could hit 95 MPH pitches, with Ochocinco deferring (as only one has a real baseball background) and Joe trash-talking about his baseball skills.

LeBron’s Expectations vs. Other Legends: ([30:09 – 43:14])

• The crew tackles why LeBron is judged more harshly at age 41 than MJ or Kobe were in their late careers, referencing social media and shifting standards.
  • "Why didn’t they hold Kobe in year 15, 16... to the standard we hold LeBron?" – Shannon Sharpe, [34:54]
  • "I think it’s the hate that LeBron gets... from his longevity in the game." – Joe Johnson, [36:36]

Shannon’s Take on Supporting Women & Divorce Stories: ([63:53])

• Shannon tells a story about paying off a woman's divorce so she could be with him, reflecting on his approach to relationships—"If I like somebody, I'm gonna do for that person."
• The crew jokes about people who flex for women with expensive gifts, hinting at secrets known among athletes.

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4. More Playoff Talk & Basketball Deep Cuts

[48:45 – 49:36, 68:10+]

• Cade Cunningham's Breakout:
  Shannon and Joe praise Detroit's star, calling him a “true game changer.”

  • "He's better than I thought he would be... He's a big guard, 3-level scorer.” – Shannon [67:15, also see 67:48–68:15]

• NBA Playoff Formats:
  Nostalgia for best-of-3 and best-of-5 formats, with acknowledgment that money (more games) spurred change.

• Series Previews:

  • Detroit moves on to face the Cavs after dominant Game 7 win.
  • Knicks set to face Sixers.
  • Spurs host Timberwolves with Ant Edwards’ availability in question.

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5. Banter, Challenges, and Life Advice

Fishing Smackdown ([51:45+])

• Lengthy, funny challenge—who’s the best fisherman? Miami (Ocho) vs southern roots (Shannon/ISO Joe), with jokes about technique, bait, and who can clean a fish.
  • “I scale a fish like a woman, boy. Don’t play with me.” – Chad Johnson, [58:35]
    Bet is set: "How about we don't eat unless we catch something?" [55:48]

Board Games, Travel, & Silly Questions:

• Monopoly and Clue are favorites, but the jabs continue: "He playing Clue but don't got a clue what I'm gonna do to him."
• Survival items for deserted islands fall into classic ribbing about priorities (Ocho: cigars/knife/music, Joe: TV/fishing pole, Shannon: lighter/machete/tent/radio).

Fatherhood & Kids:

• Question about raising daughters vs. sons prompts thoughtful answers:
  • “Them girls make you soft, bro...boys, you gotta keep that elbow up in their neck.” – Joe Johnson, [82:35]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Underwater Treadmill Skepticism:
  “That underwater treadmill don’t tell me anything because there’s no buoyancy.” – Shannon Sharpe [05:12]

• On LeBron’s Legacy and Standards:
  “Why didn’t they judge Jordan like that when he was in Washington, huh?” – Shannon Sharpe [31:37]
  “It’s the hate that LeBron gets...from his longevity in the game.” – Joe Johnson [36:36]

• Fishing Flexes:
  “I scale a fish like a woman, boy. Don’t play with me.” – Chad Johnson [58:35]

• Courtside Ticket Dreams:
  “Hey, James Dolan… If you could do me a favor...I would love to be a guest of yours. You're plus one, huh? I just want to put my feet on the wood.” – Chad Johnson [11:14]

• Relationship Realness:
  “If I like somebody, I'm gonna do for that person...” – Shannon Sharpe [65:49]

• On Superstars vs. Systems in Championships:
  “System's good—it’s nice to have. But you better have somebody that can operate that system.” – Shannon Sharpe [86:59]

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Anthony Edwards Injury/Timberwolves vs Spurs: [03:32–08:50]
• Playoff Bet Recap & Knicks Ticket Talk: [09:03–12:37]
• Q&A Segment Begins: [12:37]
• SGA and All-time Guard Conversation: [15:08–19:35]
• Baseball Batting Contest Banter: [19:46–21:59]
• LeBron’s Standards/Legacy Challenge: [30:09–43:44]
• Fishing/Outdoor Smackdown: [51:45–58:26]
• Board Games & Life Advice: [70:54–79:46]
• Fatherhood & Raising Kids: [82:20–84:41]
• Superstars vs Systems Debate: [85:25–86:59]
• Playoff Recap and Next Matchups: [87:19–End]

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Summary

This high-energy Nightcap episode blends sharp sports analysis and playful ribbing, with Shannon, Chad, and ISO Joe trading takes on Anthony Edwards’ injury, NBA playoff matchups, and the perennial LeBron vs. MJ debate. The fan Q&A drives unpredictably fun discussions—ranging from bathroom etiquette to survival gear to parenting advice. Through it all, the Hall of Fame personalities keep it candid, unfiltered, and consistently entertaining—a must listen for fans who crave both insight and laughs from their sports talk.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Anthony Edwards has been cleared for on court activities and is questionable for Game 1 versus the spurs on Monday night. Edwards released a YouTube video on his personal page Sunday morning that included clips of him running on the underwater treadmill. Joe, is this good enough? Does Ant man coming back? Does that help? Does that give Minnesota an advantage? Can't can. Even with Ant man back, do they have enough to upset the number two seed Spurs?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they got enough if you ask me. Yeah, but with him running on that underwater treadmill, that don't give me no good sense of hope that he coming back right now like the first game or second game. You know, I, I think that the thing that Minnesota has that they can kind of play with is that, you know, he don't have to play the first two games. If you just want to keep it 100, Uncle Ocho, because you know you can go in there, hopefully hope to try and steal a game in in San Antonio.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right.

[Joe Johnson]

But have ant man 100 healthy for games 3 and 4 when you at home, bro. I think that's, that's the most pivotal point. That would be the most pivotal point of the season. But can he can't, can they, can they upset the Spurs? I, I, I think it's possible, bro. I like, I like what I seen from the Timberwolves, you know, gritty hungry team. If McDaniels can stay assertive, you know, continue to play like that offensively and guard defensively.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

What, hey, this will be a hell of A series, because they both got a bunch of guys who they can throw at you in many different forms and facets. So I'm looking forward to this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The thing that I agree with you, Joe, the underwater treadmill don't tell me anything because there's no buoyancy.

[Joe Johnson]

There you go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You see, the thing is the problem that ain't running on the wood because you got the water ocho. And so you really don't have your body weight running on that. Yeah, that's why a lot of times they do aquatic training, because you're able to do things because you don't have your natural body weight that's pounding. So you're a lot more buoyant than what you would be now. Now if he was jogging on a regular treadmill, I was like, okay, Joe, there you go. Like the size of this.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But that underwater treadmill, we've all been on them. Well, I know you ain't been on oo, cuz I ain't got that in Cincinnati.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn. Oo, you. You ain't never ran on no underwater treadmill. Oo.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I ain't never been hurt to get on there. But we had one.

[Joe Johnson]

You a have to be hurt. You do it for recovery.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Now. My recovery, I get in the cold tub, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

N bro, it's active recovery, meaning, Joe, what?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I like the cold tub from the neck down, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm talking about active recovery, bro. I'm talking about, you know, something that keeps the blood flow, keeps you moving. I ain't saying where you just sitting still in the cold tub. I understand that part, but that underwater. That underwater treadmill, boy. Yeah, that thing a beast.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, we had. We had one. It low. It lower itself down.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. I seen some big joint. That's the big joint.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, it was big. You know, it had some of the fellas and they also had the current that pushed back. It pushed back on you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I ain't never got in there, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, I used to love it. And I thought I was. I thought I was on the beach some Damn. Well, I'll be up in there swimming, having a good old time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But it's gonna be. It's gonna be. It'd be very interesting to see Rudy and his countrymen going at it.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Oh, hey, the question is, can Rudy slow him down? I ain't saying stop him. Can he slow him down?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You saw what he did to joke, didn't you?

[Joe Johnson]

This is different. They too slowly. They got two.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Here we go again.

[Joe Johnson]

Two different body types Ojo two different, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Listen. Hey, Rudy. Hey, Rudy. And Cat, I want you. I want to make sure y' all hear what Uncle Joe talk about on this show. What y' all can't do. Cause you facing Wimby and you got to go see me and be. Show them something different this series. Cat. I know you're gonna see this. Somebody that know you gonna clip it. They telling me you can't go down in the block and give him beating. Drumming that work. Show them different. Rudy, I just see you give yogurt hell, huh? Every night. And they telling me now. Cause you finna play the alien now all of a sudden you ain't nobody.

[Joe Johnson]

I tell you what. If you ask the Knicks, I don't know if they'll be honest who they'd rather play, Boston or Philly. It wouldn't have been Philly. Anybody want. Nobody want to see Philly right now, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Not with. Indeed.

[Joe Johnson]

No, sir.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

All right. Oh, the same indeed that. That y' all would talk about my dog. You talking about he would hurt and he missed 200, 000 games, huh? That and B, he was hurt.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hold on. The MB that I told you the reason they paid him, but they paid him because of how special he was once he get.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, that one. Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, that one.

[Joe Johnson]

That's what.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, Cat. Hey, Cat. And go Bear. Listen to your boy. I'm locked in with you. I believe in you. Let's go. I might be new to this basketball, but I'm catching on. I'm catching on,

[Caleb (Listener/Viewer)]

Man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Cat gonna have got them and be down there in that low.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

What's up? We won.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What? Remember our Friday lineup?

[Joe Johnson]

We hit Cade.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cade would need to have more than 29 and a half.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

One Desmond Bane would make more than two and a half threes. One Brandon England would. Would score less than 19, didn't play at all. That definitely helps. Scotty Barnes would have at least 34. 35. 34 and a half points, rebound and assist. 34 and a half. He had 46. And Rui had more than 11 and a half, 21.

[Joe Johnson]

Man, what y' all talking about?

[Shannon Sharpe]

So if you bet with your A. If you put down your money with them, guess what? You got your nice little something. Got your night look. Come up.

[Joe Johnson]

Hello.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Night look come up.

[Joe Johnson]

Hello. Hello.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nice.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey. Hey. Y' all got me hyped now, man.

[Joe Johnson]

What's up?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. You know anybody over in New York who work for the Knicks, Joe?

[Joe Johnson]

You know anybody no, what you. Yeah, I know some people.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What you need?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm going to a game. Because, see, now, y' all see. Y' all got me hyped. Y' all got me hyped. Y' all talking about. Y' all talking about game.

[Joe Johnson]

You ain't going no next game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You.

[Joe Johnson]

You trying to buy you a ticket.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ain't. You ain't. You ain't getting a ticket. Less than 50 bands.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You see a courtside.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

50 band. What?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you see courtside of the Knicks game?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, you had your chance to sit courtside. You had it. You had it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hold on. Time out. Time out. Hey, that's the Hawks. Nobody want to see the Hawks. I'm talking

[Joe Johnson]

about.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, we talk about going to the Garden. We talk about going to the Garden. We ain't talking about Magic City Wings right now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do you see who be sitting at the Garden?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Nah, I ain't. I ain't never seen Jerry Seinfeld.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You see those people that be sitting at the Garden?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that front row.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, and they. And they playing the Sixers.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. So y' all saying I can't get a ticket? Because you can.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How much you have to pay for it?

[Joe Johnson]

You like. I'll say you want to pay at

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

least 50. Who the. Who the owner? Who the owner?

[Joe Johnson]

Dolan.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Chris. Chris Dolan?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, Jim. James Dolan.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, James Dolan. What's up? It's Ocho, the third half of nightcap. If you could do me a favor. I know ticks expensive. I know somebody gonna clip this and send it to you. If you can do me a favor, when the Knicks play in the Garden, I would love to be a guest of yours. You're plus one, huh? I just want to put my feet on the Wood because they told me Cat can't do something, and I want to witness Cat do it.

[Joe Johnson]

That ain't gonna happen. You ain't gonna be there part nowhere. Dolan ain't even getting back to you. I'm just gonna keep it 100.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You don't think so?

[Joe Johnson]

Hell, no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You see Spike Lee? Yeah. I mean, you need. You need to see who on the front row at the. At the. The Garden.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, what you acting. You acting like. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Y. You acting like OO can't be front on the Wood at the Garden.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

This.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This me.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

We ain't talking about no slou. Now. You talk about one of the greatest of all time, huh? Okay, what we talking about Mr. Dolan. Prove him wrong for me, baby.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And the real fact that you said you the third half, you like? Nah, we good.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Well, I'm only the third half. Because when it comes to talking, this

[Shannon Sharpe]

Sport ain't no 3.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I come last.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's 2. You're third. You could be a third, but you can't be the third half.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

All right, all right, look here. Come on now. Professor, Professor Sharp. Mr. Dolan. Holla your boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Come on, Mr. Dolan. Come through for your boy. A cat. Don't forget what they said about us, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Before we get to our super chat, we got six video voicemails from our discord. Let's take a listen to one of them. Lakers win. I don't know why y' all thought this was going to seven games. Hey, listen, we got gold, James. It ain't none you gotta worry about. All right, well, listen, I got a question for y' all three. Unc would tell us, never accept anything in the win. You wouldn't end a loss. Right. So has it ever been a time in y' all careers, big game, playoff game, maybe a really hard fought regular season game where y' all win, won the game. And y' all celebrating the locker room and coach come in, just busted all up on mad.

[Joe Johnson]

I know it's happened with me. I just can't pinpoint a game. It's like, you know, you come in, you have, you've been to one a game, but hell, a game y' all supposed to have won by like 15 or 20. And maybe you only won it by two or three. Cause you messing around, bull driving. So I know that doesn't happen numerous of times. I just can't pinpoint. Not one. I can't pinpoint one game, but I

[Shannon Sharpe]

know that happens on Wednesday. We always celebrate, you know, hey, he would always say, you know, we win the game. He's like, look, we know we can play, play better, but we'll, we'll take this win. We'll look at, we'll look at the, you know, look at the tape on Monday and when you come in on Tuesday, hey, we can assess it.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So after the game, after we won. Now it's really not too much said. We celebrate the win. Obviously, you lose the ball game, everybody's down, really quiet, really somber. It's Wednesday when you get back. And they've had an opportunity to look at the film.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And see what could have been to see all the mistakes that we did make. A lot of the mistakes that we made of the stuff that we covered. That's what makes coaches upset. It's things that we. We got beat on, things that we had talked about we knew they were going to do, and then we knew it in the area they going to do it. We knew it at the down. They were going to do it, and they did it, and we got beat with it. Yeah, that's when he would get upset. So, no, not after the game, per se, but come Wednesday. Oh, you gonna hear. You will hear about it. Ocean didn't win too much in Cincinnati, so they were always disappointed.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I. I won. Hey, Joe. I won.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Here's our second one. Let's take a listen to this one. Ocho. Joe, you know I'm always repping, but let me ask y' all this. If SGA win another title, where do we have to put him as far as guards? All guards. Let me know.

[Joe Johnson]

You meaning, like, in this era?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

All time.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He ain't going in front of Magic and Steph. So let's start there.

[Joe Johnson]

You said he not.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hell no.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, nah, nah. Not with just two MVPs, two championships. But damn it, you raising your eyebrow up, you hear me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

Raising your eyebrow. Because at the rate he's on with the efficiency that he plays with, and this might be the toughest run for him. Uncle Ocho, if y' all just want to keep it 100. The fact that I can't see J Dub really coming back and being that guy who they really gonna need due to that hamstring. I mean, hell, we all done had them hamstring injuries. We know how tough they are to come back from and to be able to play and push off and exert, but I think this will probably be as tough as one. And considering the fact that the spurs are such a complete team, bro, it's gonna be. He. He got a. He got a tough mountain to climb, but, yeah, he definitely gonna raise some eyebrows if he win a MVP this year and a title. We gonna be like, hold on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That'll be back. That'll be back to back. Oh, and a whole lot of guys have gone back to one. Back to back MVPs and back to back, you know, titles. LeBron did. He did in 2012, 2013, with the Heat. Yep. LeBron was the last to do it. Yeah, Steph won back to back MVPs, but remember, he lost the unanimous one.

[Joe Johnson]

He didn't win Finals MVP, though.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no. No, no, no. So LeBron was the last. LeBron was the last to do it. Probably Jordan before LeBron. I'm trying to think when, when, when Bird. Bird won MVP in 84, 85, 86. But they didn't win. They never won back to back titles. They won in 81. They won an 84. They won an 86. They didn't win in 85. The Lakers won in 85, as a matter of fact. And Kareem was the finals MVP in 85. That was also the year of the. The Memorial Day Massacre. You remember that, Joe? They ended up losing. I think they lost by about 30 plus points. They got blown out 148 to 114 or something like that. They got. They got crushed.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And Kareem ended up winning the final. If my memory serves me correct, I feel very comfortable saying that. But Bird won MVP 84, 85, 86. He's the last guy to win three consecutive MVPs. He was the Finals MVP in 84 and 86. Cause Cornbread won it in 81, 85. Kareem was the Finals MVP. 87 was Magic. 88 was James Worthy was the Finals MVP. You as real quiet. She. She mad.

[Joe Johnson]

Wow. Did you write

[Shannon Sharpe]

go to the next voice base? I don't know why. I. I'm just like off the top of my head. That's 40 something years ago. So that. So 85 was the Memorial Day massacre, right? They lost 148, 114. And Kareem ended up. And they ended up. They ended up winning. I think they ended up winning the series in like four or five in five or six games. But to win Finals mvp, To win a. To win the MVP in the regular season, win back to back titles and be Finals mvp. Boy, that put him in some elite company, man. Put him in some elite company.

[Joe Johnson]

They do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Bring back what?

[Joe Johnson]

Duncan?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, bro. To bring back bread. Bread coming back. All right, let's go. Let's take a listen to our next one.

[Joe Johnson]

What's good, Ocho? ISO. Yo, yo, yo. I was. I'm a baseball player. I got y' all. All right. Y' all want some tips? Y' all want to get in that battle cage before y' all shoot that episode? Because I definitely need to see that. All right? You can't give me hype about baseball. We ain't gonna play. Shout out. Shout out to Arkansas, baby. Palm Bluff native already

[Shannon Sharpe]

know I cannot hit Joe and no Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, they don't believe that. Keep it 100. Just keep it 100 man, it's okay. It's okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Joe, when last time you swung a bat?

[Joe Johnson]

I swung a bat the other day with my four year old. Yeah, yeah. Hey, hey. He'll jack all trades. He do a little bit of everything. We play baseball, we play soccer, football, basketball. Yeah, it's everything. Hey, I just look like this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey. I'm telling you, I know I can outbat you too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, you bet. I bet. Ultra.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Only.

[Joe Johnson]

Only one.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Only. It's funny. Only one of us has a baseball background, so I'm not even going to indulge myself in this conversation. I'm gonna let you two talk about it. I'm gonna let you two talk about it because when it comes to. When it comes to that, I ain't even. Ain't no point even talking. That's like. Joe, you telling me you better than me in football and soccer or ping pong or tennis?

[Joe Johnson]

You already said. You already said that you can't hit no baseball. Ocho. You said it came out.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I said 95 to 100 miles an hour in the batting cage and neither one of y' all can't even.

[Joe Johnson]

You said 85. You could hit 80. You said. I ain't even gonna try.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I can hit it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, I haven't done. Joe. No, you can't. How many times? How many tries do you need? How many tries you need? Do you know it's gonna take you 30 minutes for your hand eye coordination to get together to see the goddamn ball, man?

[Joe Johnson]

Everybody know you don't swing at the first pitch, partner.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, here you go.

[Joe Johnson]

Everybody know that. Everybody know.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Now he acting like he in the middle of a goddamn game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Everybody know you don't swing. He Tony Gwynn, huh? Ocho.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, ass. Set it up. I bet I outdo all these boys. These boy can't see me or nothing. For real. I'm just gonna keep it 100 with y'. All. Yeah. Yeah.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, look here. I gotta be careful. Cause you know, my meniscus, so my knee. I gotta get me a knee brace.

[Joe Johnson]

There you go.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, Joe. Ain't nothing wrong with my knee. So I'm ready.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay. All right. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I got. See, I bet left handed.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, do you really?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I gotta wait. My knee. Heel up. Let's take a listen to our next one.

[Caleb (Listener/Viewer)]

Yo, what's going on, Unc? Ocho ISO, My name is Caleb. Today I'll be graduating with my master's degree in jazz performance from Florida State University. Ocho, I know you love jazz, so next time you're in Tallahassee, hit me up. Hit me up. I just want to thank you guys for all the jokes and all the laughter and just get me through this degree, really. Because sometimes I need a break in a breath of fresh air from all the studying I've been doing. So the past six years, between bachelor's and master's degree, I've been watching Nightcap. And just watching you guys get. Trust me. Gives me so much joy. All right, just in case y' all want to give me a little present for graduation, I got three walls that have that need some jerseys signed by you three. So if you guys feel in your heart to sign some jerseys and send them to me, I'll send you my. My contacts. And so I just want to thank you guys again, all jokes aside. And, yeah, keep doing your thing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Appreciate that, man. Congratulations. Yes, sir.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes, sir. Congratulations. I'm glad you like. I'm glad you like jazz. You hear me, boy? I'm listen. Miles Davis, John Coltrane, man. Duke Elling, man. I take out. I can take it back all the way back. List the only this monk, Billie Holiday, boy, don't get me started when we talk about jazz now. Now you're talking about taco language, you hear me?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Congratulations, young bull. Congratulations. And I' ma catch you. I'm catchy out there in Tallahassee now. I'm gonna come up there and watch fam you in the March 100. I need you to take me to some. Some jazz spots out there.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right. Let's take a listen to the next one. What up? Oh, show and still got me some nice sausage and bacon right here. So tell me, why in the must win game, CJ McCollum is dropping 11 points? I put in a parlay for him to get at least 21. Why I go bowling, right? I look up at the screen, I see, damn, they got a Nixon Hawks game up here. It's the second quarter. I see Dyson Daniels hitting. I'm like, what they hitting for? He justified why y' all losing 77 to 22. But for the half, what? Man, it's gonna be a rough couple months for you, Joe. I know. It's already been rough raising bats. Lost house lost. You probably done. Oh. Oh, some money, so. Oh, gonna lump you up by that, man. That's what it is, man. Joe. Damn money.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn. Then what we own.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, you right about that, young bull. Hey, young boy, you right, man. I'm gonna lump him up. I'm gonna have him look like Martin on that goddamn episode over, huh? Lumps everywhere. But you know what's good?

[Shannon Sharpe]

This.

[Joe Johnson]

This why everybody gonna have hell to pay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

My.

[Joe Johnson]

Everybody.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

My hogs lost.

[Joe Johnson]

My Hawks lost. Yeah. Somebody gotta pay for this.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay, hey, hey, you know what? And we gonna continue that losing streak.

[Joe Johnson]

It's gonna start.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's gonna start with you.

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't going. I ain't gonna.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You gonna finish it out.

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't going.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I get. Hey, I guarantee you that, playboy.

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't going.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I guarantee you that.

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't going. Yeah, I ain't going.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know you.

[Joe Johnson]

You. You and uncle over there trying to team up on me. But I got something for both of y'. All.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, uncle ain't got nothing to do with this.

[Joe Johnson]

But it's me and you do got

[Shannon Sharpe]

something to do with this.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Me and you.

[Joe Johnson]

He Got my Louis Vuitton basketball over there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh yeah, that ain't gonna get it. I'm gonna keep it 100.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, as a matter of fact, Ocho, I would take that Q up off it. Oh yeah, I'll take that cue up off.

[Joe Johnson]

If you beat me, I give you my cue. But that ain't happening. That ain't happening.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey man, hey, don't take that Michael Jackson glove off his ass too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let's take a listen to the next one. Oh, show and still. Can we talk about how there's more of an expectation for a 41 year old basketball player to beat the Rockets without his stars than is for a three time MVP Jokic to get bouncing. The first since one with the expectations that lopsided. Anyways, peace out.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, I can answer that. I don't even watch basketball like that.

[Joe Johnson]

You Say what?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's LeBron though. It's different. I mean, I understand the comparison, you know, with Yic and LeBron, but that's, that's. We talk about the chosen one, we talk about King James, we talk about the one that was anointed when he was born. You hear me, Glory? We talk about Gloria James son.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That one.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Huh. Savannah husband. He's held to a different expectation he choosing to play this long in his career.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You know, so therefore we're expecting him to look like. You say it all the time, Monk. We don't judge LeBron on how he looks right now. We're judging LeBron on what he looked like before, in his prime throughout. So we're expecting him to always play at that level, regardless of how old he is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm glad you said that. So why didn't they judge Jordan like that when he was in Washington, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why didn't they judge Michael Jordan to the standard that he was playing at in, in Chicago when he was in Washington?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Well, you, you just asked me a question, Uncle. I don't know the answer to you, but hold on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You said. I said they don't compare great players to other great players. They compare players to them.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Old sales.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Younger sales.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why wasn't Michael Jordan? Because everybody say, everybody know he wasn't going he to go. He's supposed to win with anybody.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jokic. Jokic is not 35. Jokic is 29. If LeBron James, LeBron James coming off three MVPs in four years, had lost in the first round to a team without their best player, they'd have crucified him.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, he's held to a Different standard.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I just want to know that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Huh.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They say he hold on how the guy held to a different standard when everybody say he ain't the top 10. Some people got him at 9, some people got him at 11, some people got him at 13. So why would you hold a guy that's the 9th best player, the 11th, the 13th best player, he's a le choke. He's with this. Why would you hold him to a standard that you don't hold any other great players to?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, because they, they like, they like the conversation, they like the dialogue going back and forth, knowing absolutely how great he is, knowing. When it comes to want to come to picking who's the goat and who's the best, it only comes down to two people and it's based on preference. Now if you want to Nick pick, you run down accolades and resume and how long someone played and what they did in a short amount of time in their careers. It's always comparable, but it's always going to be one and two. It's either going to be Jordan or It could be LeBron. And everyone will have a dialogue and a conversation on why they support whoever it is that they choose.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, why didn't they hold KOBE and you're 17, 18, year, 19 year 20. Why did they hold him to the standard that when he played at in

[Joe Johnson]

his prime,

[Shannon Sharpe]

Kobe's look better than LeBron? That's what they tell me. Michael's better than LeBron. That's what they tell me. So why weren't they held to the same standard that we're holding LeBron to? Kobe played 20 years, so why you're 16, 17, 18, 19, 20. Why wasn't he held to the standard that we hold LeBron? Why wasn't Jordan when he went to Washington those two years? Why wasn't he held to the standard? That's all I want to know. You can say he. I don't care. Shannon. They're still better than LeBron. Why weren't they held to the standard? Why weren't they expected to not only make the playoffs but but I want to hear them Laker fans. Where are Laker fans that with all this like LeBron need to get traded. I'd be glad B. Scott, I'm gonna need you to come on Nightcap and explain. Cause you say you wish he was gone. You do realize if LeBron wasn't on that team when Luke and AR got hurt, there'd have been no playoffs. You wouldn't even made it in the play in. So I need all them Laker fans to talk about. He need to go. He need to go. Not look at you. So again, Ocho, this is for you. This. Joe, this is not for you. Oh, Kobe. Kobe played.

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Kobe played 20 seasons. So why in year 15, year 16, year 17, year 18, year 19, year 20, why was he not expected to get to the NBA Finals and win?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

See that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why was Michael Jordan not expected to win a championship in Washington? I need somebody to explain that to me.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, I. I like that you asked me that. See, that's a handicap question for somebody who didn't watch the game back then. That's not fair. I understand. I understand how great Michael Jordan was. I understand how Kobe. How great Kobe was. But I ain't started watching basketball until I had to come on Nightcap.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Chad. I need y' all to explain to me. Chad, y' all know, y' all some of the foremost authorities. Y' all been watching the game of basketball a lot longer than I have. I need you to explain. Why was Kobe never held in your 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, and 20 to the standard which. On hell, LeBron, why was Jordan. They. Did anybody like, hold on, Jordan, he played two years.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

People said, oh, that was just ceremony, so it didn't even matter. So if he'd have won a championship, would it have mattered? Yeah, yeah, of course.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I saw people say, oh, what would My hell. I was in my early 30s. I was in my 30s, late mid-30s, 34, 35. When Jordan was in Washington, I heard people say LeBron James was never gonna be able to play like this at age 40. What Michael's doing right now at 40, LeBron will never be able to do. Are y' all sure about that? I got time. We got about 15 more minutes.

[Joe Johnson]

I think it's the. The hate that LeBron get gets. Is from his longevity in the game. Fellas, you know, he.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They.

[Joe Johnson]

They. They crucify him for that, Uncle Ocho, because he go. Because he got all the records. Oh, he ain't. He ain't the best score there, but he got the most points. Hell, he topped, what, three, four, and assists. And when he's done, he's gonna probably gonna have them every record in the book, so. So when they watch him. When they watch him compete and play Uncle Ocho, the standard that the fans hold him to is a lot higher than what they held MJ and Kobe, too.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It is. I have a question.

[Joe Johnson]

What's up?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

When things went bad for Jordan, did he ever leave?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You remember when things went Bad for Kobe.

[Joe Johnson]

He retired. He retired twice.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You remember that, right?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I said, did he ever leave?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He left. He left the game of basketball. Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm just saying.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He left the game of basketball.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Did he go to another team?

[Joe Johnson]

He wouldn't play baseball.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Basketball. He went. Yes, he left. Left the team. He went to the. He went to the Chicago Black Sox. He went to the White Sox.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Excuse me, did Kobe ever leave a team?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He tried. He asked to get traded to Chicago Bulls.

[Joe Johnson]

He did.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He did. He wanted to get traded. He did ask for a trade. Something LeBron never did.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Mm.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. Anything else you want to know? I got a little time.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm just. I'm just asking. I'm just. I'm just asking questions to get a better understanding on why people feel the way they do about LeBron. So you asked me a question. I don't know. Because my knowledge of the game is not like that. I'm just starting.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm just started watching because in their heart of hearts, LeBron James is the only one that's ever been compared to Michael Jordan. Yeah, he's the only one. Only one. We have never said in the history of sports a guy with one regular season MVP was even considered the greatest.

[Joe Johnson]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

They've always had more than one. Yes, more than one. They make it seem like LeBron got no titles. Even before Jordan even won a title, they labeled him the greatest. Magic and Bird had all the titles in the 80s. They won eight of the ten that was contested. Right. And they said Jordan was the greatest. With no rings. With no rings. They labeled him the greatest because of his plate. So if that's all it takes, then. So why are we talking about rings then?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Because it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So why they keep mentioning the 6. 0. Because of play. Why we mentioned 6 and 0.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, you know, they love to move the goal post depending on who and what they talking about.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, look at this. I just.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, I'm just saying. They move the goal post depending on who and what they're talking about. That's the only thing I can think of.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He played. I mean, look what he did. Look. I mean, look what he averaged. 23 points. 8 and 7. 23. 8 and 7. Something like that.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The oldest player of the league lead a series in scoring at 41. And people say you break. No, it's the fact when you Even the mere fact that the man is 41 who picked A. I think I'm not mistaken. I think Mark Spears was the only one to pick the Lakers to win the series. Everybody else Said the Rockets, ain't no way a 41 year old can lead a team to evict. To lead this team to a series win.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, but we. What we can't do. We can't use the 41 excuse when things don't work out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, we use it when he. Ocho, he's 41. Who? Let me ask you a question. Name the player in NBA history that's ever played at this level. Do we not give Jerry Rice credit for getting a 40 to catch a thousand yards at age 40?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

42. Wasn't he 42?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, he retired at 42. But he had a thousand yards receiving at age 40. Do we not give him credit for that?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why? Because he's doing something what, Ocho, nobody has ever done. Speaking to your microphone. Something that's never, ever been done before in the history of the game.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. I was happy, Chad. I was happy about it. I've been around with Ocho for three years now. Sometimes I can finish his thoughts for him.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I'm just. I'm just listening. I'm just listening. I'm just. I'm just listening. I listen. I. I like. I like all of them. Shoot. You know, I'm a LeBron. LeBron fan. I'm a Kobe fan. Hell, I'm a Jordan fan, you know, So, I mean, I'm just. I'm. I'm liking to hear the differences on why people feel the way they do when it comes to LeBron, or why they feel the way they do when it comes to Colby. Why they feel the way they do when it comes to Michael Jordan. I'm. I'm still. I'm still learning that stuff. The people in the chat, they know it all. They've been enjoying the game of basketball probably since birth, Joe. I'm only in year two of this thing, Joe. Yeah, I'm only in year two. Yeah, we talking boxing, Joe. Boy, I could talk from A to Z. Boy, we talking football. I could talk from A to Z. Now we talking soccer. Hell, I could talk for 24 hours straight. You know, we talking tennis. We talk a little track. I can give you something. Basketball. Oh, that's my weak spot, Joe. Yeah, yeah, it's okay. I could admit that. You know, some people want to admit that. They try to act like they know it all. I don't know it all, especially when it comes to this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If I'm learning on the fly, I'll make a case for you. If I like you, there ain't nothing you look at it right. Now do we see what's going on? We see what's going on in the world. We see where our economy is. We see what the prices are. It was supposed to be no more war. We jumped into another needless endless war. And what, because they like it? President Obama had a Starbucks coffee in his hand. That's beneath the president. He had a tan suit on. Yes sir, that's beneath the president.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh yeah, I remember that. Hey, they went crazy about that tan suit. But he was clean as hell that day, unc, wasn't he? Boy, he was sharp that day.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If I like you, Ocho, you can't do no wrong in my eyes. But if I don't, you can do no good in my eyes. Yes sir. That's just the way it is. And you got to understand, I think it's more difficult now even. Even if you say. Let's just say for the sake of argument, the game is not more difficult.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

It's more difficult to play in the social media era.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Not even close. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The thing that happened with Vrabel and. And that. Mr. Rossini, if that's been in the 70s, the 80s and 90s, that have never got out.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let's move on. Well, we got another way to go. We'll. We'll need to go. I. I know too much. But anyway, let's move on. We got one more. That was it. Oh, that was it. That was it. That was it. Omar deep. K will dominate. Scotty was the best player in this series. With all due respect. You think he'll. You think K will dominate this series? Joe and Ocho, he.

[Joe Johnson]

He.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He been dominating. He's one person you could always count on to get his. Huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on. Against Cleveland?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

Hell, yeah, he gonna dominate. Meaning I. I think he know exactly what we've been talking about. It's Detroit gonna have a hard time winning if he's not putting up special performances, period, point blank. You know, you just gotta hope that Tobias Harris can stay consistent, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's it. I think he the key.

[Joe Johnson]

That's the biggest kid.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think he the key joke. I honestly do.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The man's own killer unc. Ocho, y' all hype these NBA playoffs. Let me find out. Y' all like it more the NFL. No, I'm joking. I know football steal y' all first love. But you have to. The thing is, is that we had game sevens. You do realize NFL playoffs, every game is a game seven.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, you're right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Every game is a game seven in the NFL postseason. Yeah, that's why. That's why the people love it so much. Because you can be the best team and not the best team will probably. It's hard for the best team to lose four times.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But one time, that's why the series. See, I don't know if you remember this joke. The series used to be the best two out of three. The first round was the best two out of three.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The second round was the best three out of five.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It was only the conference finals and the finals were the best four out of seven, Ocho.

[Joe Johnson]

So you know why they. You know why they moved them all to seven games? Hello. Hello?

[Shannon Sharpe]

The same reason they add more playoff games. Hello. They're trying to add another NFL football game. Ocho.

[Joe Johnson]

Hello?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

The bottom line has always been the bottom line, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

The bonus in the file, in the penalties. You got three Shots to make two. So you used to shoot three freestones to try to make two. So if you made the first two, hey, it was all. It was done. And boy, you good. But if you. If you miss the first one, you got two more to try to make another try to make two. Yes, sir. But that's before y' all time. Y' all remember that flight attendant defense and grit case is cade in the mix. Pistons and 6K could have definitely played with the bad boy Pistons. He got the right demeanor.

[Joe Johnson]

He got it. He got it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He got the right to meet. He went to the right team. He got it.

[Joe Johnson]

Definitely got it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Pat Dove. Don't forget, fellas. Detroit players know the next series is personal for J.B. bickerstaff.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, because that's where he. That's where he come from. Oh, yeah. You don't think. Hey, hey, he for sure put that on them boys, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They got him up out of there prematurely.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, guys, I wanted to see this fishing tournament. Maybe prime can host it. What you guys. Personal best. I ain't used to catch fish to put on the wall. I can't. We used to catch fish to put in the damn pan.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah,

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know. My grandma do. My grandma, I think she got a 8 pound 10 ounce on the wall. Maybe 9 pounds or something.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I think she caught. She caught her and she had called my aunt. Well, my. My sister picked up from the pond because my sister used to take her and drop off and she'd go fishy fish by herself. My sister came, My sister come back to pick her up. She said, oh, let me look what I caught. She say, call Top. That's what we. That's my aunt. Her daughter Jane said, call Top and hug Rex to come get him. They can. They can cook him and eat him. Libby said, no, Granny. That's gonna go on the water. She said, no, they can eat this. She said, no, Granny. She said, well, they're bigger fish in there than that sleeping. Say, Granny, you ain't never caught one, though. She. She was gonna give it to my uncle and aunt to eat it. My supposed to say, nah, it's going on the Walgreens to this day. If it. If it's in the living room on the wall.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I'll be. I know I. I don't know what. How big it's called. I know I can beat these two. That's on my screen right now. That's what I do know.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't think you don't say that. You ain't saying that with enough confidence for me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't think I know for sure for sure. You could be ocho I these two guys that's on the screen with me, I'll be hell out of them fishing. Now we can fish. We can fish with bait. We can fish with shiners, we can fish with cut bait. We can fish with broke back jigs, whatever.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I don't care.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y' all two can't beat me.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I bet you naming all this goddamn bait. That don't, that ain't gonna change the end result. You still gonna lose. Damn, you're still gonna lose.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do you know what cut bait is?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I don't. You still gonna lose. I'm gonna use earthworms. How about that? That's all I'm gonna use. I'm gonna use earthworms.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You could use red wigglers.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, listen, I'm gonna use earthworms, worms. I ain't gonna use nothing else. And I'm gonna still beat you. You don't know where to throw that goddamn line. I know where to throw that line. You hear me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't know fishing, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You ain't no real man. What you talking about? Hey, Joe, what are you talking about, Joe? He ain't the only official, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, man, you know what?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, look at, look at, look at, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

You see it ain't it ain't it, ain't it?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Oo, you cast like this, Ocho? Ocho, you cast, huh? Just a little flick of the wrist.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, no, I don't. That's how you cast. I, I, I cast my elbow.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That man ain't gonna catch a damn thing, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, this is an easy win for me. I'm gonna just keep it 100. Easy win for me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I can fish. I, I, that's what I do know. Okay, what all, first of all, are we fishing for anything in particular? We fishing for? Anything that bite. Just let me know. Joe, what we fishing for? Catfish. We fishing for small.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hold on, hold on, will. We fishing. That's, that's the most important part, huh? We worry about what we fishing for. Where we fishing at, Then we can

[Shannon Sharpe]

talk about it all depends if we deep sea fishing. I mean, we gonna catch. We're gonna catch what? Catch? Do what you look, what you fishing for? Grouper snapper.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, I want, I want a Goliath grouper.

[Shannon Sharpe]

For what? Just to say I caught it and

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

then put him back. Yeah,

[Shannon Sharpe]

she pair. Drum spot. What we. What we fishing for, Ojo. Joe. Hey, we fishing for walleye. I mean, I'm just trying to tell whatever you want to fish for. Joe, what if I. How about.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

How about. How about we make it? How about we do this? How about we don't eat that day and we don't eat unless we catch something?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm all for that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Nah. Yeah. Yeah. I bet. I bet you get serious about it, then. You don't eat unless you catch something.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I bet. Lord have mercy. I'm all for it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And listen, Lord. Lord can't help you here. Lord can't help you. He walked on water, but he can't help you here.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, boy, this will be. This is gonna be a sight to see.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I already know. I already know that. He want to take some Goliath group. Well catch black grouper.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm from Miami. Huh? I grew up on the water. And at the water, round the water, I did everything except walk on water.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, tell her. Hey, tell you Wade in the water, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You was waiting, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Been doing this. Only person got baptized. Only. Only person got baptized three times because the keep wearing off.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Exactly. A K. Fisher lick. Bored by the water.

[Joe Johnson]

Born in Miami.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Could walk out of his house and step right into the ocean and K. Fisher lick.

[Joe Johnson]

Right, right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

As a matter of fact, Joe, we can set deadlines however you want to fish or whatever you want to do, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Listen, that's why I'm saying y' all steady. Coming up with all these differences. It don't make me no different, baby. Let's just get out there and throw that thing out there. I bet y' all catch more than y'. All, and I bet y' all catch the biggest one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, whatever you use. Cane pole if you want to. Whatever, Joe. We can use a 33 Zebco. 33. A 2, 8 0. I don't care. We can get 8. Whatever.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, you see how. Hey, hey, Joe, you see how Unc naming all the. You know, all the baits and all the rods and all the lines and stuff? Hey, Joe the type. Joe, he the type to come hoop at the park and have on the whole Jordan outfit with the shoes and all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, they call me Shannon Van Dam. If you know anything about fishing. They've only been a handful of guys that's run the classic at least four times. KBD and Rick Clun. And. Hey, and you.

[Joe Johnson]

You saying you in that conversation? What?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I got east ain't got nothing on me. Kbd, Bill Dance, Roland Martin, all of them.

[Joe Johnson]

I got Martin.

[Shannon Sharpe]

None of them.

[Joe Johnson]

I got to say, I'm him. I gotta see it to believe it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It sound good.

[Joe Johnson]

I gotta see it to believe it. You got to show me, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I plan on it.

[Joe Johnson]

All right? Say less.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Say, I know, Ocho, you don't even know how to clean no fish.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I don't know how to clean no fish, boy. I scale a fish like a woman, boy. Don't play with me, huh? What you talking about? Don't play.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Don't play no damn fish.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

My scare. I scale a fist and clean the fist like I do a woman, huh? From head to toe. What? Don't play at me. From the fist to the. Hey. You hear me? Hey, Joe. From the fist to the. From. From the tail to the eyes, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I don't play no games. All right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

God bless Nightcap. F. I got a miracle question. What do we say if go LeBron James, eliminate OKC? It'll be the biggest upset in the history of basketball.

[Joe Johnson]

I agree. Considering the fact what he's up against. Without the leading scorer in the NBA on this team, Hell yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

TS Car Wash Detail Service. My grandfather told me, you want to mess with me, you better get a Coke. Cause it's going to be a cold on the floor. What I'm saying, Ocho, y' all, look here. I don't even like when it comes to stuff like that. When it comes to, like, outdoors and stuff, I just eliminate Ocho.

[Joe Johnson]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I never aim on you.

[Joe Johnson]

Right. Because I'm the one person, the unknown, you don't know. You don't know what you're gonna get.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I feel you from Arkansas. You have did a little fishing. You might have did a little hunting.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, oh. Oh, man. Hey. Hey. Me and my partners, you know, shout out Mr. Greenwood, he used to. We used to skip school, just go fishing the whole entire day, man. Yeah, so? So I just want y' all to know, bro. Hey, hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't like it that much, Joe. I ain't going to lie.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. Hey, that's.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, man, I ain't trying to hit him. Old ass story from 1950, boy. All right. I ain't trying to hear all that, man.

[Joe Johnson]

All right. Well, we seen what happened last time we all got together.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ain't nobody. Ain't nobody trying to talk about that old stuff.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, now that's old.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Take your resume, update your resume. What have you done? What have you done to me lately? Nothing. Except talk you ain't did. Number the last thing you did good was better than the goddamn Hawks to beat the Knicks in the series. And they lost.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And I ain't have to pay. I bet.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, you can keep that little 500. I can't do nothing with that little ch. Change.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He bragging about not having to pay. Yeah, man, he said the best. You said the best thing he did with the lab was bet on the Hawks. And he said, yeah, I bet on them, and I ain't gotta pay.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, damn.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I told him he can keep that little chain. You keep that little chain.

[Joe Johnson]

You ain't had no choice but to

[Shannon Sharpe]

let me keep my little chain.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, keep. You keep that little chain, man. Get you some gas. Use that for some gas money.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thank you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, use that for some gas.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I will. I will.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's. That's your best bet. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I tell you what. We going fishing for the. Before we. Before we start football season.

[Joe Johnson]

Say you left. Say la. I'll be. I'll be ready.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Took my little bro game. Took my little bro to Game 7, the Cavs. It was electric. Loudest game I've ever been to. As a former player, how much does away games truly affect you?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I love away game boy.

[Joe Johnson]

In the postseason, bro. Listen, I played in a few games, Sevens on the road, Uncle Ocho. And, yeah, it's. It's pretty intense, bro. Like, you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can.

[Joe Johnson]

You can feel it. You can see it. You understand what it is. And tonight was definitely electric, so it was fun to watch. But, yeah, I. I know the anxiety that it brings amongst you, you know, before the game and after the game, after you get that win.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, that's a sign of relief for sure.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think there's less pressure playing on the road than there is playing at home.

[Joe Johnson]

No question. No question.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ill Magic. Y' all think Toronto would have beaten the Cavs if they had Pascal Siakam. And Siakam been gone for so long, man. But BI hadn't played his best basketball in this series.

[Joe Johnson]

They probably would have beat them all

[Shannon Sharpe]

if they had bi.

[Joe Johnson]

Pascal. Pascal, I'm saying, because he not only a score, he a great utility guy. He don't do. He don't just score, you know, Solid defender.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Plays the right way, plays hardest. I don't know what. So if they'd had him, possibly.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Big three. Love you guys. Go Broncos. Fire sale. The Celtics team.

[Joe Johnson]

Fire sale.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Fire sale. He's like, are they going to be selling off? Look, JB And JT Are coming back. The question is, what are they gonna do? Derrick White makes a lot of money. I think they got Prey and Pritchard tied up. I don't know what Quaido situation is. They resigned. Houser, he's back.

[Joe Johnson]

He'll be back.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I. I don't really know the move, the pieces that they could make. I mean, it'd be very interesting if JT had a plate.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who knows?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. So I think by them getting healthy and coming back next year, I think that's the. The biggest key for them, bro. It's health. Because if Jason Tatum would have played. Yeah, you're right. OO we don't know what the hell would have happened.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ari K, you mentioned and on Undisputed that you paid for your latest divorce. I know there's a backstory.

[Joe Johnson]

How about those sixes you pay for her divorce?

[Shannon Sharpe]

The story was, look, I. This chick was getting the divorce. He found out she was dating someone. He didn't know it was me, but she found out she was dating someone, and he wanted all the money that was in the bank account. She wanted to split it.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He wasn't going to sign the divorce papers until she gave him all the money. I asked her how much was in the account. She said it was this much. I said, here.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And he signed the divorce papers.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What? What? That's some players. That's player stuff right there. Why?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh? I mean, and people like, oh, bro, I'm trying to figure out when guys are. Buy their girlfriend a G wagon off the rip, get them a condo, a place off the rip. I'm trying. I'm trying to see. I mean, what's going on. Same thing.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Well, that's the same thing. Well, that's a whole. Hey, wait. Yes. That's a. That's a. That's the 1 percenters that do that. That ain't. It Ain't everybody, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, it's a select few that's able to do that off the rip, but

[Shannon Sharpe]

there is only a select few that would be able to say, well, you want a divorce, I want to be with you. He's not. He's haggling over this. Okay, well, here you go.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay. Okay. I like.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How was that percent.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, okay. I'm not. I don't. I don't. Listen, I don't. I don't go back. Look, I mean, I don't really go back and forth. If I like you, I don't care. Nobody. The simple and all that other stuff. If I like somebody, I'm. I won't. I want to be with that person.

[Joe Johnson]

Right?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm gonna do for that person.

[Joe Johnson]

It's really.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That Simple.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All that other stuff, I don't let. I don't let what? Somebody else. Well, I wouldn't do this. I wouldn't do that. Okay, that's fine. That's you. You wouldn't. And I don't begrudge somebody that won't do something for their lady. I don't begrudge somebody that does an enormous amount for the lady. My situation is. My situation.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What you do and how you treat your lady ain't got nothing to do with Shane.

[Joe Johnson]

Hello.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, boy, you got that money, boy, But I got that money. On what? How much in the account?

[Shannon Sharpe]

When I like somebody. Hey, it's been situations. Hey, if somebody. Look, I'm. I'm the type of guy. Look, if. If I rock with you and if I can help, I'm gonna help.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I feel you on that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, that's me. That's me. That's me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But here's the thing, Joe. The problem is, is that I know I'm not the only one. But everybody. Because guys go, people, oh, man, you simply X, Y and Z. They won't tell you the real story.

[Joe Johnson]

Hello. Hello.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I know the real story. Because you got to realize guys like myself and Joe Nocho, we travel in circles. Yeah, yeah, we. We know some of the people. And I'm like, bro, come on now.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, we know, we know. We know. We know, we know. We know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How she driving a G wagon? She ain't got that. I know that. That beauty salon ain't doing that.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

JJ Alan put BTA K. Cunningham is that dude true game changer. He absolutely is. He's phenomenal. He's better than I thought. He's better than I thought he would. Because watching him at Oklahoma State, I thought he was a good player. I ain't see this, Joe. I ain't gonna lie, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, well, I, I think he's a lot more polished. He's been. He's always been poised and patience, you know, with the ball in his hands. Ojo. From the time I seen him play in high school.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

On to college and now to the pros. No difference, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He.

[Joe Johnson]

He's a. He's a big guard who can get to his spots. Obviously. 3 level score, can shoot the 3, shoot the midi, get to the cup, bang on you. But he has a nice post game. And I think probably one of the best attributes of his game is getting others involved. Because when he has high assist totals, they, they. They're hard to beat.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And it makes his Job easier because now they can't keep him out of the lane. Now they got to guard, they got to stick to their man.

[Joe Johnson]

There you go. There you go. But he has to continue to assert himself, Uncle Ocho, and continue to put that pressure on the defense and make the all attention come him. And that's how he's able to get those other guys easy shots, get him involved. The Tobias Harrison, the Duncan Robinson's, the Thompsons, you know, guys of that nature.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think the biggest thing, because he always could handle the ball, he could always defend. But I think it's three point shot, Joe, that's really expanded this game.

[Joe Johnson]

It is, bro. It is, it's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's.

[Joe Johnson]

It's pretty pure. You give him a good look at it. Yeah, you gonna knock it down.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Joe, you need to take notes so you. So you can dunk on ISO and then. And then hit the. Look, the too little.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, I'm. I'm here. Hey, Joe, I'm gonna catch it like Derek Coleman. Court shack. What?

[Joe Johnson]

Boy, please.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You hear me?

[Joe Johnson]

Boy, please.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, Joe, you know I'm bouncy, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ain't.

[Joe Johnson]

You don't weigh enough though. That's the problem. You're gonna have.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Joe. I'm bouncy. Joe, you don't need. I'm a knee on your forehead, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

You don't weigh enough.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ain't about weight, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, it is, Joe. That's pretty high. He got his knee on your forehead, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm gonna need him right in his forehead.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, I got a question. You think that that man can't do all this with no basketball in his hand? Yeah, he ain't that damn good. Hell, if that's the case, you played the wrong damn sport, partner.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, that I played the right sport. Yeah, I played the right sport.

[Joe Johnson]

Huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I'm. Yeah, I'm on your ass. Pause.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Greedy boat. Damn. Damn, that Ocho. Your ass still sick? Yeah, you got your boys back, but that cough tearing you up. What?

[Joe Johnson]

That cop whooping your ass over there. That's what he telling.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good. I'm good, I'm good. I'm on the tear and everything, you know, getting the last little bit of mucus. Somebody there? Yeah, you know, it is. It is what it is.

[Joe Johnson]

You might want to slow down more.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oo, your AC woke up every day this week and you chose violence. Good Lord.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Well, I ain't choose no violence. Ain't nothing but love over here, you hear me? Ain't nothing but love over here. Don't confuse it now. You know we going, we going, we going to dibble and dabble with this little talking now, but you know he's going to always be love. I'm. Listen, I'mma beat your ass. I'mma hug him and tell him everything we going to be. Everything will be all right after that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn, brother. Franklin say that AC and that strap did a number on Ocho. Get well soon, twin.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, you know. Hey, you know a. You know, ain't nothing, ain't nothing wrong with look. Cuddling now,

[Shannon Sharpe]

Titan guy. What's up, fellas? ISO, who's the best defender you played against? And what's your favorite board game? I like Monopoly. Best defender you played against. ISO.

[Joe Johnson]

The best defender I played against. I'll probably give it to Ron Artist. He's a guy you couldn't play with, Uncle Ocho. Meaning you know, even if you had a bag, bro, just give him one move and go and get by his ass.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You got to go hunt.

[Joe Johnson]

No sis out there trying to dance on. I'm telling you, you know, some guys just have a great sense of awareness with their hands and can and can get deflections. And he was one of those dudes, bro. So I understood that early in my career. Yeah, he won. No guy I played with, I just haha. Got right by him, got on to what I was. Yeah, yeah. Ain't no need that big ass body.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, he bigger than you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

People don't realize how big he is.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, he's stronger than I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. As far as board games, he said his was Monopoly. I like Monopoly.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I like Monopoly too, Joe. I beat your ass in Monopoly.

[Joe Johnson]

In Monopoly.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

I had a whole damn street blocked off all the way where you'd be paying me. Every time you run, every time you go around.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Joe. Every time you go ride the boat.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Every time you hit over there, come across my corner pot, and I have it locked up. So you be paying me money.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, I'm getting. I'm gonna get the utilities and I'm gonna get Park Place and Boardwalk because I know you want to come. I know you want to go past go. I know you want to get past go.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, my favorite game right now, me, me and my family play a lot, bro, is. Is Clue.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't no play day.

[Joe Johnson]

You ain't no play clue to where you gotta guess who, who, who, who done the murder or whatnot. Like, it's the whole thing. You gotta have paper.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I've heard of. Yeah, it's.

[Joe Johnson]

It's. It's. It's. It's. It's a. It's a pretty fun game. We enjoy games like that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, you playing the board game, too, but don't. Hey, he ain't got a clue about what the I'm gonna do to you. Huh? Huh? He playing a board game clue, but don't got a clue about what I'm gonna do to him.

[Joe Johnson]

He ain't talking about nothing.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh. Oh, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

What's that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You have to pick one, Eat groceries or do number two in a fast food restaurant.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm doing number two.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm doing both, man.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm lacing up the toilet. I'm lacing up the toilet.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm doing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm doing the whole roll of toilet. I'm talking about a whole roll of toilet. Other people.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, I'm doing both, man. It don't matter me, man. You know, I'm.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You're just a savage.

[Joe Johnson]

You just a savage out here.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, Joe. Joe, when I gotta go, I gotta go. Joe. I like. Listen, I lace the toilet. Lace the toilet up. Lace the toilet up. And I hate this. What I hate about restaurant, too, Joe. I really hate this. You know, you could tell how much. How much companies or businesses care about their customers based on the type of toilet tissue they have in the bathroom. Yeah, they got one ply and you got to lay it down twice. They don't. They don't really care about your customer service. They don't care about customer service, man. Like, you get to go to a

[Shannon Sharpe]

restaurant, they can't have no 2 ply because they get clogged. All them people going, you put all that toilet paper.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's why you. You change your plumbing system. You change your plumbing system so it flushes a little stronger. Yeah, I'm number two every time, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn that. I got it. If I can make it home, I'm going home.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Exactly. I leave the gym, y'.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

All.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, listen, I go on my. Get on my phone. Get on Twitter, man. Get on that toilet quick, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, no. Oh, Lord.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This man here.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. I'm just telling you, man. You know? And you know, we'll take the groceries with that, too, huh? Yeah, me.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn. Yeah. Nasty.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, and let me tell you about that. Hey, Joe. Get you a little ice too, now, Joe. You hear me?

[Joe Johnson]

For what?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, when you. When. When you're Ready to elevate your game in that area?

[Joe Johnson]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Mickey Entertains says if a fat guy jumps into a pool naked, can you still call it skinny dipping? If he runs from the cops and barely gets away, is that a narrow escape?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, that's a good one. That's a good one. Listen, I ain't been thinking about my jokes, man. I forgot all about my jokes, man. I got to get back on the game, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

John Doe, Unc. Stop saying D. Mitch don't show up in the playoffs. If the guys around him. That don't. So all the playoffs. So he showed up at every playoff series, huh? He has it. He has. It's okay. It happens. Nobody has played. Has played well in every playoff series.

[Joe Johnson]

Right, Right. And it's okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cam Alexander, your big three. Thanks for the laugh. I caught. I got caught cheating again.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Again.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's been rough. What are the five things that we should take on an island to stay forever? No hoo ha.

[Joe Johnson]

He said what are five things you can.

[Shannon Sharpe]

One of what he said, what are the five things you would take on an island to stay forever. But you don't. You can't take no. Hoo ha. I ain't trying to go on no island forever.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, especially without that. Hoo ha ain't a man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, for sure. What the hell? I would be on there by myself. The hell.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey. Hey, Uncle Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

What's up?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What kind of detergent do bodybuilders use to wash their clothes?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Bodybuilder

[Joe Johnson]

arm and hammer.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Nope. Hey, Joe and Unc. Bodybuilders use games to wash their clothes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What you taking? What's the five things? You taking Joe to an island?

[Joe Johnson]

Yep. I need some. I'm gonna need some entertainment, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you gonna take a. A boom box?

[Joe Johnson]

Gotta. Gotta have. Gotta have the jams. I gotta have me a. Can we take tv.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. You got five things. O. Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

I got me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Joe. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Give me the. Give me my video game tv. That's gonna work wonders right there. That's gonna have everything I need. I can fish, so I can. You know, I catch my own food on a day to day basis. Me a nice little fishing pole. Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't taking that. You can make that, Joe. You better. You ain't gonna take no fire. You ain't gonna take nothing to start no fire. With no lighter. You ain't gonna take no knife.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't need no knife. We're gonna figure that out. I ain't gonna.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So how you gonna cut. What you gonna sleep on? What you gonna Sleep. What you go. You ain't gonna build no shelter.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I'm gonna be. I'm. I'm good in the wilderness. I can build. I can build that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You're not building anything. How you gonna get it down? How you gonna cut it down?

[Joe Johnson]

How I'm cut what down?

[Shannon Sharpe]

The trees or the branches, the limbs?

[Joe Johnson]

I'm gonna snatch them. I'm gonna snatch them down. I'm like Tarzan out that thing, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

This man about to be dead in five days. This man. This man. But, hey, he gonna be watching TV and jamming, though. Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This man don't want no fire. He don't want no knife. He don't want nothing. What about some water? You want any water?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, you need water. And you're gonna need that fire. Yeah. Yeah. You're gonna need a fire and some water. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ojo, what you taking?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So I'm the first thing I'm taking. I'm a tent, okay? I need me a tent. You know, I got to deal with all the elements out there, you know?

[Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You hear me?

[Joe Johnson]

All right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I need my cigars. Huh? I can't do nothing without my cigars. Oh, so with my cigars comes my lighter. That's still two things. Okay, okay, three, you know, I got. I got. I got my. I got my Cambodia with me now. You hear me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can't take no hoo.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ha. I ain't gonna do nothing.

[Joe Johnson]

And now you can't take over.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just in case.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay, okay. All right. If I can't get that. Give me my music right. Give me some music right for number two.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Number four, Give me my cub Scout knife. My cub Scout knife I had back in 87. It had me a good knife. I can cut anything. I could build anything.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you want, like, a machete? Yeah, okay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I said knife, but you said machete, but okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I like that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Give me. Give me one good. One good pot. I need one good pot. That's all I need.

[Joe Johnson]

Man, that made a name like seven things.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's five.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's fine, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

First off, your cigar and lighter, that's two things you can.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's not that good. The cigar, lighter go together, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

You can. No, they don't. No, they don't.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Well, that's fine.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know about you, but I believe. I believe you got to lead, Adam. You have to learn how to live without them cigars, because they ain't no necessity.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

For me, it is.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, what you got?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm taking. I'm taking fire. I'M gonna take a lighter. I'm gonna take a machete. I'm. A tent.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And radio. Okay. Goldbergs.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oo. I guess that it hates the Knicks tonight. I guess beating Atlanta ass by 51 didn't do nothing. Same for indeed was complaining about.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Don't worry about it. We good. We good, we good. Listen, I. I took a fun B, you know, not a naughty on them B side. Now I'm taking up a cat, so I need cat to come through for me. Matter of fact, speaking of tickets, right, Mr. Dolan, if you don't get back to me, it's okay. Hey, Brunson and Josh Hart. Remember I did. Y' all boys that solid? I came on the podcast, so I need me a solid, but I need. My feet need to be on the wood for one game down at the Garden. But I want to see. I want to be out there for that. That. You hear me?

[Joe Johnson]

That feet on the wood, you ain't getting that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, Josh Brunson. Holla at your boy, Mr. Dolan. Huh? Hey, when I. Hey, when I get that joke, I'm gonna be like, aha. Nine ninety. Boo.

[Joe Johnson]

Boo.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, big three. I'm gonna have my first child. She's due June 26th. Okay. Whoa. Cancer. June 26th. Okay, one question. What's the difference between having a daughter and having a son?

[Joe Johnson]

Ah, them girls make you soft, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Them boys, you gotta. You gotta keep that elbow up in their neck. You know, you. You gonna have to. You know, you'll. You're a lot rough on. I know I'm a lot tough on my. On my oldest son than I am with my daughter.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm gonna tell you this. Whether you have a boy or a girl.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Boy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's a great feeling. You hear me? But it's one thing, you know, it's in the Bible, you know, odd numbers of bad luck. So as I suggest, if you have your. Your daughter, your son, June 26, I suggest you get back in there by the end of July.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You get back in there by the end of July. Huh?

[Joe Johnson]

You gotta wait six weeks, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I said end of July.

[Joe Johnson]

It's cutting it too close, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, ain't cutting. Ain't cutting too close. Get back in there. Get it out the way now.

[Joe Johnson]

Get it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You don't. You don't want them too far apart.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you do. Too quick. The only thing that's gonna be far apart is your sleep schedule.

[Joe Johnson]

Hello.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's fine. Yeah, that's fine. That's the good thing about It.

[Joe Johnson]

No, it ain't.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, one of the greatest things in life is having an infant and getting them on your schedule. Don't let them dictate when they wake up and when they go to sleep. You dictate to them. You got to establish dominance as a parent early.

[Joe Johnson]

Man, what's wrong with this dude?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Bro, I'm just telling you what I done now. I got. I got 85 kids, Joe, and I got this now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And they was. And they was, what you call it, with their mom during the season.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And they were with me during the off season. Matter of fact, you see, I got. I got about 37 of them with

[Shannon Sharpe]

me now, but they was already on the schedule by the time you got them.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I. I made the schedule

[Shannon Sharpe]

slip again. Can we finally put Sam Darnold in the top three quarterbacks the last two seasons? Super Rain. Better. So with that being said, you would take. You would take Sam Darnold over Mahomes, Burrow, Jackson, Allen.

[Joe Johnson]

No, he ain't doing that, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I. I don't look and I see. This is where it's headed, Ocho. That now the super bowl ring is the end all be all.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hell no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nobody. But. But when did this happen? Because nobody said Brad Johnson was a top three quarterback when he won the super bowl for Tampa Bay. They didn't say the same that Trent Dilford was. Nobody even said Russell Wilson was a top three quarterback when he won it. But this day, I guess not. Rings. Hey. It is what it is. Hey, sir Kate. My guys. What matters more in building a champion, a system or a superstar that can break the system,

[Joe Johnson]

you need a

[Shannon Sharpe]

it

[Joe Johnson]

nowadays in the NBA, you need a. You need a star, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

NFL. I'm going with the system mainly. Defense. Seahawks defense. Brad Johnson, super bowl winning team. Defense. Eagles defense. Trendilford defense. Joe Flacco, Ravens. Super bowl defense. Giants. Two Super Bowls defense. System.

[Joe Johnson]

It's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's funny that you know. Cause. You look at the triangle. Phil Jackson.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So if I take Shaq, Kobe, Michael and Scotty out of the triangle and give Phil, is He still winning 11 championships?

[Joe Johnson]

Hell no. No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I take Kareem and Magic James Worthy out of Pat Riley system. They still winning five championships.

[Joe Johnson]

No

[Shannon Sharpe]

system. Good. It's nice to have a system and have things that, hey, let's go run this. But you better have somebody that can operate that system. Yes, sir.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Steve Kerr still running the same system. He ain't got the players to go with Stephen. Guess what?

[Joe Johnson]

It's just ain't gonna work.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That completes this episode of Nightcap. I want to thank you guys for joining us but now we know two game sevens and the home team he'll serve at home both in convincing fashion. The Detroit Pistons blow out the Orlando Magic after they fought back from 24 down in Game 6 to force a Game 7. And Toronto forced the Game 7 on a miracle shot by RJ Barrett. But that wasn't enough as they hold serve at home. And so now it starts. Detroit takes on the Cavaliers and the Knicks take on the Philadelphia 76ers. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite uncle. That's my partner and co host. That is the Liberty City Legend, a six time Pro Bowler and an All Pro. That is Chad Ochocinko Johnson and the seven time NBA All Star from the Atlanta Hawks. That is ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys for your support and your continued support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shade by Laportier head over to laportierconjac.com to purchase you a bottle if it's currently unavailable in a state or city near you. It is a premium VSOP Cognac, the best tasting, smoothest VSOP Cognac on the market. Please drink responsibly and stay safe again. The Cavaliers beat the Raptors 114 to 112 thanks to a 22 and 19 game from Jared Allen. The Pistons beat the Magic 116 to 94K. Cunningham 32 points, 12 assists, 2 blocks, 4 of 6 from the 3 point line. And he got help from his teammate and co host. 30 points, nine rebounds, three steals, five or seven shooting from the three point line from Tobias Harris as they move on and they take on the Cavaliers on Tuesday night. The Knicks and the 76ers play tomorrow night. Thank you guys. They play tomorrow night. Yeah, the spurs are tomorrow night too. Also, spurs play Minnesota tomorrow night. Also. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. We're back tomorrow after the games. Peace.

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