Nightcap Hour 3: Lebron's Lakers Legacy + Advice for Fathers on the road a lot

Summary

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Nightcap Hour 3: LeBron's Lakers Legacy + Advice for Fathers on the Road

Podcast: Nightcap
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe ("Unc"), Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson ("Ocho"), and ISO Joe Johnson
Date: May 13, 2026

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Episode Overview

This lively, wide-ranging hour of Nightcap delivers camaraderie, hard truths, and classic storytelling from three sports legends. The trio tackles hot Lakers questions, NBA playoff frustrations, candid advice for fathers who travel, and plenty of classic “barbershop” banter about tattoos, family, and wild youth. Throughout, they keep it honest, funny, and always real.

Main Themes:

• Assessing LeBron James’s Lakers legacy and LA’s team construction woes
• Honest advice for dads on the road balancing career and fatherhood
• Real-talk on NBA and NFL news, locker room stories, and generational perspectives

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Listener Q&A and “Glizzy” Banter (03:01–05:59)

• Glizzy (Hot Dog) Confessions:
  • Ocho celebrates being open about loving hot dogs without condiments, and how that’s inspired listeners.
  • Shannon (Unc) provides some comic relief, recalling his last hot dog in 2003/2004, and how he prefers not to “do that fancy stuff” like caviar or premium dogs.
  • Notable moment: Ocho, on hot dog style—“Bread and dog. That’s it. You gotta squish it, Joe, squish the bread together before you eat it.” (05:05)

2. Austin Reaves/Lakers Backcourt and Team Construction (06:10–09:54; 76:29–81:22)

• Austin Reaves Disappointment:
  • A fan question wonders if LA should build around or move Austin Reaves after playoff struggles.
  • Unc: “The last thing you want is to tick off a superstar...but [Reaves is] defensively challenged. So is Luka. When have we seen a defensively challenged backcourt win a championship?” (07:26)
  • Group agrees: LA needs new defensive “dogs” since offensive talent alone won’t win tough playoff series.
  • Ocho: “You gotta have some guys who don’t mind taking the challenge and doing the dirty work.” (08:14)
  • Ultimately, all agree the Lakers’ woes are less about LeBron’s greatness “spoiling” things and more about weak roster depth compared to teams like Boston, the Knicks, and OKC.
  • Unc: “The days of one move away are over...these teams go eight, nine legit deep.” (81:20)

3. Music & Pop Culture Reactions (10:30–14:23)

• Chris Brown’s New Album & Kevin Hart’s Roast:
  • Ocho shares he enjoys Chris Brown’s new collaboration with Leon Thomas but notes complaints that his albums have too many tracks.
  • Group debates proper “roast” etiquette after watching bits of the Kevin Hart special, noting it wandered from its focus.
  • Unc: “Sometimes, they go overboard...I didn’t think the George Floyd joke was necessary.” (13:36)

4. Locker Room Stories & Life Lessons (24:03–34:33)

• Foot Fetish Comedy:
  • Ocho jokingly details his “OnlyFans for feet” and gives playful advice on how to spice up intimacy, with Shannon laughing off any talk of “sucking toes.”
  • Classic generational humor about growing up with limited dinner choices and strong grandparent influence.
  • Unc: “You ate whatever hell they cook. My grandmother never asked what you want for dinner tonight.” (26:07)
• On Tattoos & Parenting:
  • Discussion of first tattoos (liberally interspersed with humor and family struggles).
  • Ocho recalls getting his daughter's name as his first tattoo in high school; Unc reflects on almost getting a tribute tattoo, but out of respect for his grandma who hated tattoos, he refrained.

5. Balancing Fatherhood and Career on the Road (54:10–56:08)

• Advice for Traveling Fathers:
  • Unc: “When you’re present, you got to be present. When you say you're going to do something, you got to do it...Kids remember everything.”
  • Ocho: “You gotta have those uncomfortable conversations, so they understand what your job requires, even if they might not fully get it.”
  • Unc: “You’re going to miss some things... but be available the best way you can. Don’t compare to what other parents can do. Just do your best.”

6. LeBron’s Lakers Legacy & NBA Context (68:06–81:22)

• Will LeBron Leave LA?
  • Ocho: “It was hard to envision him leaving Cleveland—he left, didn’t he?”
  • Unc: “It wasn’t that hard. They couldn’t get anybody to come join him. Look at that team he took to the Finals. He had no business getting that team out of the first round.” (69:01)
  • Lakers’ recent playoff struggles and the “GOAT” conversation spark chatroom debate: “How is LeBron considered the GOAT with all these sweeps?” versus Kobe and Steph’s Finals records.
  • Hosts push back, noting Kobe missed playoffs his last four years and that every superstar faces unique criticisms and circumstances.

7. Fatherly & Real Life Reflections (53:16–57:09)

• Tattoos & Generational Rules:

  • Anecdotes about sneaking tattoos, parental reactions, and the etiquette of when kids become adults.
  • Stories about locker room fights, roasting culture, and the importance of learning to “joan” (joke).

• Physical Feats and Aging:

  • Boasts and jokes about who’s in better shape, how much weight they can still move, and whose workout discipline remains.
  • Ocho, proudly: “I’m 205 right now, you seen me carrying that weight out there today!”
  • Unc, showing off at 54: “That’s 252 pounds, Joe.” (73:01–73:11)

8. Football Futures: Which QB Has Most to Prove? (82:12–83:42)

• Bengals’ Joe Burrow, Buffalo’s Josh Allen, and Dallas’ Dak Prescott all “have something to prove” this year.
• Unc: “Everyone has individual accolades... but last I checked, football is a team sport. They gotta get to the ultimate prize.”

9. Lighter Barbershop Banter & Closing Out (60:09–end)

• Music: Bruno Mars vs. The Weeknd – hosts agree both are stars, hard to compare but Bruno’s “entertainment factor” stands out.
• Classic stories about traveling for “hoo ha,” life as a sports star in their 20s, and plenty of playful one-upmanship.
• Final playful challenge: “Forget the one-on-ones. ISO vs Unc in a Texas bull rope match!” (80:06)
• Closing gratitude to listeners and mutual appreciation: “We don’t have the praise, we don’t have the adulation without your support.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Lakers’ Roster Issues:

  • “The last thing you want is to tick off a superstar...but [Reaves is] defensively challenged. So is Luka. When have we seen a defensively challenged backcourt win a championship?” – Unc, (07:26)
  • “These teams go eight, nine legit deep. Those days of being one move away are over.” – Unc, (81:20)

• On Being a Present Parent:

  • “Kids got memories like elephants...anything you say, they gonna hold on to it.” – Ocho, (55:04)
  • “You’re going to miss some things, but be available the best way you can.” – Unc, (56:00)

• On LeBron’s Team Elevation:

  • “Look at that team he took to the Finals. He had no business getting that team out of the first round...He elevated everybody’s play, bro.” – Unc & Liberty City Zone, (69:01–69:31)

• On Legacy and Generational Change:

  • “Look, we all talking past tense. That’s not who we are now. It’s out of my system.” – Unc, (67:07)

• Comic Gold:

  • “Bread and dog. That’s it. You gotta squish it, Joe, squish the bread together before you eat it.” – Ocho, (05:08)
  • “Put that ice in your mouth, start with the pinky toe and work your way like a harmonica...at some point, put the whole foot in your mouth.” – Ocho (22:27)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Glizzy Banter, Listener Q&A: 03:01–05:59
• Austin Reaves & Lakers Issues: 06:10–09:54, 76:29–81:22
• Chris Brown/Pop Culture, Kevin Hart Roast: 10:30–14:23
• Locker Room Stories, Tattoo Talk: 24:03–34:33, 37:32–44:00
• Fatherhood on the Road Advice: 54:10–56:08
• LeBron’s Lakers Legacy: 68:06–69:45; 81:22–82:12
• QB “Most to Prove” Debate (NFL Preview): 82:12–83:42
• Closing Banter & Final Thoughts: 83:44–86:50

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Conclusion

This Nightcap hour exemplifies what makes the podcast beloved: no-holds-barred sports analysis, unfiltered life wisdom, and the kind of stories you only get when legends sit down to chop it up. Iconic LeBron/Lakers analysis, fatherhood advice, tattoo regrets, and plenty of laughs—this episode is a must for any sports and culture fan.

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Transcript

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[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Q and A.

[Joe Johnson]

Before we get to our super chats, we got two video voicemails from our discord. Let's take a listen. Ocho, ISO. What up with y' all boys, man? What up with the big three? What up night cat family? Yo, I just got a quick thing for Ocho, bro.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I just want to say I appreciate you, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

I appreciate your love for a glizzy, you know what I'm saying?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I recently just got back into eating

[Joe Johnson]

glizzies because of you, bro. You so openly willing to eat a

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

glizzy and share that you eat glizzy.

[Joe Johnson]

So now I'm kind of like that,

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

you know what I'm saying?

[Joe Johnson]

I love a mean glizzy, bro. Like, I put my girl on glizzies, bro.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

So I just appreciate your love and

[Joe Johnson]

your passion for glizzies. Hell, I'm on work lunch right now. Got a glizzy, you know what I'm saying?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I'm ready to eat, you know what I'm saying?

[Joe Johnson]

Appreciate you though, for sure, bro. Love, bro.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, you know what? I appreciate that. I appreciate that not. Not being. Not being scared to. To publicly eat glizzies like myself. Anytime I go to a sporting event, I don't care what it is, I'm getting two glizzies. I don't use condiments. I don't use condiments. And the fact that you're brave enough like myself not to care.

[Joe Johnson]

What. Anybody use condoms either? But go ahead, we get you, huh? You anything that got conduct condiments. Condom. But we get your porto joke.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, Joe, you eat glizzies now?

[Joe Johnson]

I don't eat glizzy.

[Liberty City Zone]

But Ocho, they got some. They got. I heard they got some mean glizzes down there in Miami with like some caviar on it or something. Like 100 glizzers.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You know, I ain't with. See, I ain't with that fancy.

[Liberty City Zone]

Oh, you don't get down like that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Nah, Joe. I like regular hot dogs. You know, like, you go to New York, you know, the on and look in the cards.

[Joe Johnson]

The street meat.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, Joe. Sporting event, you know, football game, soccer game. Yeah, Yeah. I don't do that fancy stuff.

[Liberty City Zone]

Just pause. Just bread in the meat. That's it.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah. Bread and dog. Bread and dog. That's it. You gotta. Hey, hold on. You gotta squish it, Joe. You got to squish the bread together.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Before you eat it.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Like I used to do my peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. Like that. Yeah.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Lord have mercy.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

What happened?

[Liberty City Zone]

You don't eat glizzies up?

[Joe Johnson]

No, I hadn't had. I. I'm be honest. I've been. Joe, I. I think the last time I had a hot dog, I had a Hebrew national. It's probably at my. Probably 2003.

[Liberty City Zone]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

20 plus years. But it was. It was a Hebrew national because I had a. A had a cookout birthday party back in. Back in. In Glenville. Back in it. Because the last year I think I had it was because I retired. So 2004. So I don't know if I had one in four or three, but it's been over 20 years.

[Liberty City Zone]

Somebody in the chat say they go to quick trip.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn. So, hey, hey. But I remember, Joe, they used to have them in that warmer. They had them hot dogs and the buns be nice and warm.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah. Hey, you going at the wrong time when you hungry as hell. You'll be walking up out of there

[Joe Johnson]

with a couple, and you get two or three of them. All right, here's. Here's our second one. Yo, what up, nightcap gang? What up? What up, Ocho? So, hey, man, I just want to start off by saying I'm a big fan of the show, man. I appreciate what y' all been doing. I've been rocking with y' all since day one, so keep doing y' all thing. But, man, I got a question, bro. What are we gonna do about Austin Reeves? Bruh, I swear, I feel like every time we need him in the playoffs such and such hurt. We need him to have a big game, he just don't show up, man. So what you think they should do? You think they should build around him or try to package them up and send them off for somebody a little bit more consistent? Consistent. I'm curious on your thoughts, but other than that, man, keep rocking. Keep doing your thing, man. I hope y' all keep ISO on the show. I'm a big fan of what he brought to the show. You know what I'm saying? His basketball takes, even his football takes be like that. So I hope y' all keep him on the show. Because I really want to see his face. My Ravens going to Dallas and whoop the Cowboys in a couple months. So if y' all could do that for me, I would appreciate y'. All. But other than that, man, keep rocking. Keep doing y' all thing. I'll see y' all on the show tonight. Peace. Well, if the reports ought to believe, Ocho and Joe Lucas made it very clear he wants to play with Austin Reeves and he doesn't want him to be packaged for any other superstar.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Now, the last thing that you want to do is that, is to tick off a superstar, because you got to have one in Los Angeles. You got to have one with the Lakers. You just do.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And I want to try to keep him as happy as I possibly can. The thing is, is that he's defensively challenged. So is Luca. And if you go back and study, I don't know when we've ever seen a backcourt that was defensively challenged with a championship. Now, Chat, maybe y' all can go back further than I can, but I can't recall one. You.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, you just got to find a way to put some dogs with them. I think with Lucas, even when you watch them play, their chemistry is so great. Offensively. They Both have high IQs.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[Liberty City Zone]

Who can really score the basketball and get in them cracks.

[Joe Johnson]

You know them, they, they, they.

[Liberty City Zone]

They really can play, but they are a bit challenged on the defensive side of the ball. So you gotta have some guys, bro, who don't mind taking the challenge and doing that, doing the dirty work that, you know, a lot of these other guys don't want to do big.

[Joe Johnson]

But the problem is, you're gonna run into Joe in the last five minutes of the game. What we. What the NBA consider clutch time. They calling them out.

[Liberty City Zone]

Oh, yeah, they gonna do that.

[Joe Johnson]

What if you go. Go back and go watch the game? And I know Austin, like I said, I know JJ wanted to pair Austin Reeves and. And what's his name, the left head guy? Luke Canard.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I know he wanted to pair him offensively because it gives you great space on the floor. But the problem is. Come here.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah. Red rover, red roll.

[Joe Johnson]

No chat. Get the card. No.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Whoever Canard is guarding, whoever is Reeves's guard, that's who I want.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I gotta have that.

[Joe Johnson]

It's hard. It is hard because you getting in the playoffs, a lot of times, if you see how the. The Thunder executed in those situations, they got every look that they wanted, and they prohibit you from getting the looks that you want.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yep.

[Joe Johnson]

So That's. Look, I. I like, I think. I think Austin Reeves has been his maturation and his growth to see an undrafted free agent. He was gonna make the All Star if he didn't get hurt. He's making the All Star team, Joe.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, Yeah. I agree.

[Joe Johnson]

He's a phenomenal offensive talent, you know? Yeah, the turnovers hurt hurt us. Hurt hurt us last night. Sometimes I'm like, bro, why you try to split the double team? Because you try to split it. The balls go another way because there's nobody there, right? So now that's an easy. That's an easy. You know, that's a pickup throw out lead to an easy layup. Ts car was detailed service. Y' all hear about CB album? Did y' all see the Kevin Hart roast? Yeah, Kevin.

[Liberty City Zone]

I seen some of it.

[Joe Johnson]

I seen Brown dropped. He dropped an album, right?

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, he did.

[Joe Johnson]

I. I haven't. I haven't heard it, you know?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Okay, bro, I know. I know. He. He has a song with Leon Thomas. I think it's Leon. Yeah, I think Leon Thomas. Real soulful. I think it might have been a single. I heard that one. I. I enjoyed that one. As far as Twitter goes, obviously Twister. Twitter's gonna always have their. Their own opinion on things. And obviously they say they. They don't like it. It sounds like all this other. Other. Other songs. They say he makes too many songs. He needs to shorten his playlist or whatever it may be. But I'm. I probably. I'm going take a listen to it

[Liberty City Zone]

for myself because he got about 23, 24 songs on there.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Every time you make an album, it's 20 something. 20 something songs.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, bro, Cut that down. That's. That's another album.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

But you. You.

[Liberty City Zone]

You'll find you some gems, and there's some ones that you really like. Yeah, you know?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. When I saw. When I sat down with him and to see his house and to see. He was great.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Great, man. And I appreciate. Always, as always, I appreciate the time when guys sit down and he reached out like, oh, let's do it. Let's sit down and talk, man. Is this for real? Let me go see this thing. Got a blue check mark. Yes. I haven't watched it. I see bits and pieces of it.

[Liberty City Zone]

Me too. To Kevin Hart.

[Joe Johnson]

Ocho, help me if I'm wrong. Yeah. Talk to me. But I thought a roast is like, it's the Kevin Hart roast, right? They spent a lot of time roasting people. That wasn't Kevin Hart.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, I, I think they. Matter of fact, this is the thing. When it comes to roasting, I don't know anybody in the chat. You guys might not be old enough, but I've watched every Dean Martin roast there is. So most of the time, let's say Dean Martin, Rose, and that night it was. Let's say it was Frank Sinatra.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

They roast Frank Sinatra. Right. And everybody else that came to roast Frank Sinatra. So everybody get it.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Not, not, not just, not just the person getting roasted. So that, I mean, I'm assuming, but

[Joe Johnson]

I think they spent too much time and some of the stuff. I mean, look, I believe you can roast someone, right? But I think sometimes they go overboard with it.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, hey, hey. When it's a roast, it's. Oh, no, no holds barred. No, no holds barred when it comes to Rose, especially those that are in attendance.

[Joe Johnson]

Everybody getting it. If it's something you saying something about somebody else, because I know a lot of people lost their job. There was someone that got killed earlier in September.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

And that people said was. And the people said things online. They lost their jobs.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

They got the thing deactivated.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

So this notion that. Oh, you know, Ro. No, no, no. It goes. If it's, if you say it about something that we don't really care about.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Right.

[Joe Johnson]

So we gotta, you know, hey, like this, this guy online, Chuck the Builder.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

He going around saying stuff, but he gonna catch the right person on the wrong day.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Right?

[Joe Johnson]

He gonna get what he looking for.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

He gonna get what he looking for. Don't get it. But they know exactly what to say, what word to say. Yeah, I, like I said, I look, the George Floyd joke, I didn't think that was necessary.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

See, I always see. I ain't see all that. I ain't see that. I, I, I ain't watching K Hard roast.

[Liberty City Zone]

I seen clips.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that's, that's me. Because we, we were on. We were on.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, during it.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Okay, okay, okay, okay.

[Joe Johnson]

So. But I tell you what, if somebody have a roast for Stephen A. I got something for him.

[Liberty City Zone]

You got something for him.

[Joe Johnson]

Boy, do I. I hope you like the Joker. Oh, we got a live one here, do I? You already know. I already know. You're gonna call me. I've been waiting for this moment. I've been waiting for this moment. Steve Martin. Hey, watching ISO and Beasley ball out in the big three. Realistic. Could they and Dwight Howard have helped the Lakers in this past series?

[Liberty City Zone]

Hold on. What he saying?

[Joe Johnson]

He's saying if, if you and Dwight Howard could, y' all have realistically helped the Lakers in this series.

[Liberty City Zone]

No, not, not, not with this league. Right. I couldn't have done, Now, I ain't going to lie and say I couldn't have done nothing. Now, Dwight, now, Dwight and Beasley probably could have, but, nah, you, I couldn't, I couldn't have done nothing for him.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I'm glad you said that, Joe.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah, I'm just being, I'm just being.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, he definitely setting up for excuses when I, when I'm, when I, when

[Joe Johnson]

I. Oh, he said

[Liberty City Zone]

I'm sitting that trap, baby. I'm saying I'll say that trap. Well, you see, when, when they see me on your ass, they gonna be like, oh, he lying.

[Joe Johnson]

He can get out there right now. Yeah, Joseph, he just lay that trap for you. Hey, man, this series should have been over. Wolves got lucky in Games 1 and 4. What they did get lucky over, man, we need this.

[Liberty City Zone]

We do need it, but they got lucky here. Wimby wasn't playing.

[Joe Johnson]

They definitely got lucky. Game four. Because I, I, it's just hard for me to believe that if they, they, they lose this series. Wimby is in this game and they took them down to the five. They took them down to like the last two minutes of the game, Joe. Yeah, Without Wimby.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah. Yeah. Let's go T. Wolf Man.

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Joe Johnson]

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[Joe Johnson]

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[Joe Johnson]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Ad Host]

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[Sean Duffy]

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[Ad Host]

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[Joe Johnson]

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[Liberty City Zone]

Let's get it to a game 7. Eat a game 7.

[Joe Johnson]

I sure could use a game 7. I definitely could use a game 7. Kevin non delusional cowboy fan. Hey, my question for nightcap bros. How in the hell do you handle your mental health? Also, how do you overcome the darkest battles without giving up? Because my desire to continue is greater than my desire to give up.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hello.

[Joe Johnson]

That's it. Because all I need is like a handful of people that believe in me. And I know I got a handful of people that believe in me.

[Liberty City Zone]

There you go. There you go.

[Joe Johnson]

I cannot. I made my. My grandmother was on her deathbed and I say, I got it. I got to go get it.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That's it.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, it gets tough. Look, and I understand a fragile person and you. You having the bullying in school or being bullying and all that, I get it. I totally get it. Trust me, I get it. Because everything gets picked apart. Everything. Everything's get. You know, he said this, but that's what he meant. Look at his body language. He this, he that. I was with Sukiana. Oh, sugiana. Talk about Shannon. You don't. You don't suck no toes. I said no. You know what the comment said?

[Liberty City Zone]

What?

[Joe Johnson]

Uncle suck no toes. He got to be gay. What kind of pole vault. Look here, y' all got Armando Duplanta's pole vault. To be able to jump a hurdle like that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, you got. You got that. You got to expand your palate, man.

[Liberty City Zone]

Nah, damn that.

[Joe Johnson]

Ride this out together.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah. Cause I damn sure ain't sucking no toes now.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, Joe, listen to me.

[Joe Johnson]

I rub them, though. I love them. Joe, listen, If I go to Sam Club today, on the job, a convenience store, and they're on the counter. Yeah, I'm gonna get them tongs and that wax paper and I'm gonna pull them out. But other than that, ain't nobody told in my mouth, man.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, let me tell you. Let me tell you what to do, huh?

[Liberty City Zone]

What to do.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, go to the gas station. Get that. Get that dollar Bag of ice, take it home, get you that hammer and crush that ice up. Yeah, put it in that. Put it in a rare solo cup. You hear me?

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Put that ice in your mouth, huh? You start with the pinky toe. Start with the pinky toe and work your way like a harmonica, huh? Do the feet like a harmonica.

[Liberty City Zone]

Okay. Okay.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

And at some point, put the whole foot in your mouth.

[Liberty City Zone]

Well, that's why you number one. I'm telling you, boy, that's exactly why.

[Joe Johnson]

You're a little drag on that one,

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Joe, I tell you, no lie.

[Liberty City Zone]

Damn.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, I got it. I got. I got a few more tricks for you, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

That ain't happening. No, absolutely not.

[Liberty City Zone]

Look.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, I get it, you know, but look, because behind closed doors, it's all sex.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Nobody knows where the nose goes when the toes. When the doors close.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Joe, come on now.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I get all of that, but I just can't even go consciously with myself. That might be that. Hey, hey, hey, hey, Kevin, that might be what pushed me over. Don't I have some toes in my mouth?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, you never know what it feel like.

[Liberty City Zone]

I'm good.

[Joe Johnson]

I won't. Some things ain't meant to be experienced, just especially by o'. Shea.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, you gotta try it, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, I can't do that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah. All right, well, at least get the swing then.

[Joe Johnson]

I told you, last wing I was in was in elementary school. No, I'm good. I tell you what, if Joe tried to come back to me, I say I'mma try it on them toes. If Joe get on them toes.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, joke.

[Joe Johnson]

If they're good enough. And the toes good enough for Joe. Knowing Joe, old country boy like myself, and he a little younger than me, I said, okay, you know, Joe said,

[Liberty City Zone]

hey, now, hold up now. My lady got some pretty feet. I told her she might need to start her only fans for a feet now. Hey, I'll keep laughing. I'll laughing over there. Yeah. Hey, Joe, they say, hey, only only fans. Billion dollar industry, baby. Gonna throw them down. Yeah, we'll be all right.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, you know, I got. I got the only fans, too, now.

[Joe Johnson]

Do you? Yeah,

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I had an only fan for about three years.

[Liberty City Zone]

Now you be on there cutting up.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Nah, it just. It's my feet. It's for my feet.

[Joe Johnson]

Lord have mercy.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I'm just telling you.

[Joe Johnson]

People eat pig feet, I gotta say, are made to eat. That's food. I don't know what y' all don't get. Y'. All. You bet you eat raccoon you ate. I had To. I didn't really have a choice. I would prefer baby back ribs. I really would have preferred a wagyu or some chicken, but that wasn't available, so I took what was available. Yeah, y' all be. Y' all make it seem like when I was growing up with you, they make it seem like I had a choice. Like granny say, okay, baby, what you want today? You want the steak, you want the fish? Or you want the turtle, the raccoon, the squirrel, the rabbit?

[Liberty City Zone]

You ate whatever hell they cook.

[Joe Johnson]

I didn't have a choice. It's not like we go to the grocery store now and, you know, you got chicken, you know, okay, chicken. You got drumsticks, you got short thighs, you got breast. Oh, you know what? Hey, you know what? I think I got a taste for some salmon tonight.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, nah. No. You know what? These Cornish hens, they really cheap. They look good. Okay. Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Y' all don't understand.

[Joe Johnson]

That wasn't an option. My grandmother never. I've never. I've never heard in all my life growing up until, you know, I got grown within a relationship. My grandmother never asked, baby, what y' all want for dinner tonight?

[Liberty City Zone]

Right?

[Joe Johnson]

Whatever. She sat on the table. That's what we ate.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That's what you eat.

[Joe Johnson]

And we thought, I don't want no tomatoes and rice. She said, do like the people cross the river. Do without.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And walk up out the kitchen.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Because I'd hate to this day. I don't like tomatoes. I don't like squash. I don't like okra.

[Liberty City Zone]

Damn. You don't like okra?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, I don't like okra. Okra, zucchini. Okra, zucchini and squash. I can't do it, man.

[Liberty City Zone]

Y' all tripping now.

[Joe Johnson]

No. Hell, no.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And hate to cut. I don't know you. Have you ever cut okra, Joe?

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah, I know the real okra you talking about. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, because you have to wear sleeves because it'll make you whip up.

[Liberty City Zone]

Are you talking about out there in them fields?

[Joe Johnson]

In the field? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I cut over before. Old people say, boy, I'mma tear your ass up. You're going to whelp like okra. Because if you go out there with the fields with no sleeves on.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Watch them whips.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

But, guys, I didn't have no choice. I got a choice in the matter. I get it. To each his own. Some people freaky like that. So they. Some people, they golden showers and Ocho like the swings and.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hanging off the Bed. I saw this thing they got on tick tock with a girl put a pillow down, and she on the couch, and she laying back and got the lick.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

[Liberty City Zone]

Did you purchase?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I did. I said it. Hey, you could do that. Yeah, but come on, now.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You gotta do it.

[Joe Johnson]

Y' all doing too much.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You gotta live a little bit, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yo, I'm living. That ain't living, Ocho, man, come on, now. You. You.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I mean, you just. Hey, just. Just text again. Tell her. Tell her you that on a Palmer one time. Give who oh one time. Come on, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

You going.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You're gonna enjoy it.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm telling you. We got to draw the lines now.

[Liberty City Zone]

Oh, he ain't got no line. He don't draw no lines. He don't draw none.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I'm just trying to get you to experience things you never had before, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You try to honor Palmer, Joe?

[Liberty City Zone]

No, we good over here. We good.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

All right, all right. Don't worry about it.

[Joe Johnson]

Go ahead. Go ahead, Joe. Go ahead.

[Liberty City Zone]

Unless he talking about that tea and lemonade. You talk about the tea and lemonade.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

If that's what you want it to be. It can be that. Okay, you can pretend it's that.

[Joe Johnson]

That joker don't color between no lines. But, Kevin, the biggest key is the to. To not give up. You put one foot in front of the other, and even the. And just remember, sunshine follows rain, even though the Bible says it rained 40 days and 40 nights on the 30, on the 41st day. What happened? That's how you got to look at it, bro. I ain't giving up because I look at it like this. As hard as it's been the last couple of years, think about the first 20 years of your life, Joe. Think about where you came from. Oh, think about where you came from.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[Joe Johnson]

Now, you mean to tell me I'm gonna be deterred? I'm gonna feel defeated after a year? After two years. And I spent the first 20 years. Oh, no, no, no, no. Give me the top five. Johnny Taylor song. Big three. I don't.

[Liberty City Zone]

These.

[Joe Johnson]

Who's making love to your old lady? Ain't that Johnny Taylor? What?

[Liberty City Zone]

Hold on. These last $2. These last $2. I'm not gonna lose. Y' all know that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't know.

[Liberty City Zone]

These last two dollars. One. Go for the bus fair.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Last. Last two dollars.

[Liberty City Zone]

Let me look.

[Joe Johnson]

Disco lady. Move it in, move it out.

[Liberty City Zone]

Y' all know about no. Johnny. Hey, they used to play that Johnny Taylor in the. In the pool hall back in the day when I used to be in the pool. Yeah, still do.

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't been. I ain't been to a. What we. We call them juke joints.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, what you know about that?

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, hey, they got. Hey, real talk, though. They got some nice. They got a nice pool hall that I go to out here in Georgia. Huh? It's called Mr. Q. Oh, do you. Oh, man, it's old school, too. It give you that feel, that vibe, you know, they got the jukebox in there, so you can put whatever music on. It's up to date. Yeah, they got about 50 pool tables, and they be going down in that thing.

[Joe Johnson]

Boy, move it in, move it out. Yeah, disco. Lay there.

[Liberty City Zone]

I told y', all, man. I'm a real pool shooter. I know y' all just out here talking.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, man, we gonna learn.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, nightcap, fam.

[Ad Host]

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[Joe Johnson]

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[Sean Duffy]

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[Joe Johnson]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Ad Host]

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[Sean Duffy]

Well, you're gonna take a left at the old oak tree at this here road.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, I'm just kidding.

[Sean Duffy]

Let me get my phone out.

[Ad Host]

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[Sean Duffy]

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[Ad Host]

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[Joe Johnson]

Feels what feels worse? Accidentally scoring in your own basket or getting. Or getting a safety? What's worse, Joe?

[Liberty City Zone]

I mean, hell, I ain't never played football, but scoring your own basket. Yeah, that's, that's pretty, that's pretty bad. And it can happen easily by just tipping the ball, trying to. You know what I mean?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. You try to grab a rebound, that's happened. Now what Jim Marshall did was embarrassing. He scooped up a fumble.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And he ran the wrong way. So instead of giving his team and nobody. And he wondered why nobody didn't try to tackle it like, yeah, you good. And then he scored. He throws the ball up and the guy from the other team come and hug him, said, thank you. So, I mean, there's a lot have to go into it if you score a safety for your. For the other team. Because like Joe said, I'm going for a rebound. I'm trying to get the rebound in my hand, hit it, tip it up, it could go in.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

But to get a safety. Yeah. What's up, y'? All? How old were you when you got your first tattoo? And how much do you think you would have spent all together? Uncle, why you never got any ink?

[Liberty City Zone]

Love?

[Joe Johnson]

Joe, how old were you got your first tattoo?

[Liberty City Zone]

Well, I was, I was in the NBA. I was 22.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Damn. How old was I? And I got my first tattoo. That's a good question. Hey, you know that too, with my daughter name too. It was Jakira.

[Joe Johnson]

So you was in the league or you was in college?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Nah, boy. Hey, shoot up. She 28. 20. 27 now, okay. No, she 28. 28. Yeah, I might have been in high school, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, she 27. Ocho, if she 27, 28. Oh, she's born in 98.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Then I got it my, my sophomore year in college. Then yeah, I must have been at Santa Monica. God, no, that was that long ago.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. If you said 98.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

God damn. I'm old, man.

[Joe Johnson]

18. So if you do 98, the Elliot 08, that's 10. 08 to 18, that's 20. 18 to 6, that's 18. That's 8. That's 28.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, boy, time moving fast, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Man, I've only wanted one tattoo. I thought about getting my grandmother's name, and my sister found something where she actually wrote her name, Mary V. Porter. And I tore the page out, and I just remember her saying, boy, she hated tattoos. She said, son, don't mark your body up.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And I thought about. I said, you know what? As much as an honor it would be. She would be so disappointed. She'd be so disappointed. And I couldn't do it, Joe. I couldn't. Because all I. All I could do all like. I. I just know. I just know my granny and I know she said, son, why you do. Why you mark your body up?

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, look, my grandma. My grandma was saying I made sure. I made sure I could take care of my damn self while I started getting tattooed. Damn that. That's why I tell you, I was in the NBA when I got mine. I was, you know, I was already like two, three years in. Yeah, I mean, you know, shade.

[Joe Johnson]

But my brother. My sister got what. I think my sister got a roll on the ankle or something. My kids got him. Yeah. You know, got.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hold on. When did they get them? Did they get them early?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. My son got him. He was in college. My daughter tried to sneak and get one. I met Abe. Whoa, Lord. Joe. Oh, Joe, tell your story, man. Look here. She don't go get attack. I don't know. Chat. What does Rihanna have on her rib cage? So. Because whatever Rihanna got written on her rib cage, Kayla went. Got that. I told her, and she said that I want to get a tattoo. I said, baby, you can get a tattoo once you get in college. Get a tattoo, man, she couldn't wait.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah,

[Joe Johnson]

man, I saw that. Hey, she had that. Because I guess there's some cream. Yeah. It helps with the speed, the healing.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And I ain't know what it was. I just saw. I just saw the Brock. I just saw the box and. And my girlfriend like, what is this? I said, I don't know what that is. That's Michaela stuff. She's like, do you know what it is? I said, no, I don't know what it's. Because I'm getting annoyed. I get. I get a noise. I'm sorry. Chad. I get annoyed easy. Okay. Is it yours? No, it's not. You know what it is. No, I don't. You should. So I said, no. She said, it's tattoo is something to heal up. Healing of the tattoo. I said, well, I ain't got no damn tattoo. She said, well, you looking at me. I ain't got one, boy. Like my granddad used to say, boy, hell flew all through me. Kayla.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Sir.

[Joe Johnson]

Bring you this down here. Let me. I say, bring your ass down here. So she come down there with a bra and his on, because I already know she gonna try to cover it up. She walking like she a mummy. I say, kayla, you got a tattoo. Normally, if you ain't gonna try to lie, you gonna say yes or no. See, if you say. Huh? What did you say? You trying to think of a lie?

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Come a little closer. You talking about Dad. I can hear you. Cause she already know I want to bust hell out of.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I said, turn to the side, Kayla, because I can kind of see the. A little remnants of it, like. Okay. I said, kayla, turn to the side. Okay. See, that's okay. So now I gotta drive to school. Because I drove to school every morning. Yeah, every morning I drove Kayla to school and picked her up. So I was, you know, Hey. I was.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey.

[Joe Johnson]

I was, you know, one of them dads wearing carpool line.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, Kayla, your daddy don't disrespect me. I don't say nothing about your dad. Don't be talking about my dad. So I said, kayla, you ain't got but another three months at school. You couldn't wait three months. But I'm gritting my teeth when I say it.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I said, you know, you'll get another popular how tattoo remover.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Come on.

[Joe Johnson]

Found a place. I say, hey. I asked Shelly, you know, that's what Shelly coming at. As a matter of fact, there's a place right up the street. I said, really? How far is it? She says, probably like 15 minutes. Book us about eight appointments every week.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, you for real?

[Joe Johnson]

I took her up there every week. So I right there, she's screaming. Cause that thing burning.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Smell the flesh burning. Ah, Daddy. Daddy. Oh, you ain't called Daddy, right? When you ain't got that tattoo with that man would put that in.

[Liberty City Zone]

You're right, right.

[Joe Johnson]

You ain't saying. I bet you ain't say daddy one time. Now you want daddy?

[Liberty City Zone]

Nah.

[Joe Johnson]

No can do. No can do. So we went up there, we got it. I don't know. She got it. I don't know what she did with it, what she got. Well, like I said, I said, Kayla, once you get. Get to college, I consider. I consider you grown. Once you leave my house, get you a place. I see now. I'll get you a place. You know, she's like, well, I want to go. I said, you need. You really need to kind of like go off. Because I know you, Kayla, you gonna want to come in. You won't think, well, I'm grown. You say once I graduate high school, I was grown, and. And you're gonna want to come in anytime you want to. Yeah, that ain't happening, right?

[Liberty City Zone]

Facts.

[Joe Johnson]

That ain't gonna happen.

[Liberty City Zone]

Facts.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm saying way nobody have sex here but me. You gonna think you could have sex and have some. Oh, no. I said, can't. Don't make me hurt somebody. I said, you need to go. Hey, if you want to go to Georgia Southern with your brother, cuz he was already in school.

[Liberty City Zone]

She started early.

[Joe Johnson]

Got it. Well, man, I said, no. Why you think he want to? I said, you. You. You having sex. He having sex, right? I said, you think he can come in and you in the room and you and your guy doing what you doing, and he gonna be okay with that? You know how that boy is about you, right? No, no, but I. Joe, I get real irritable, man. Me and. I tell you what, man, me and Buck, I almost fell out with Bucket. We in college. We weren't close like we was now. So I'm sitting in my locker, his locker, right by mine. Hey. Hey, Sharp. You hear what happened? I was like, nah. What happened? You ain't here. I said, no, no, I ain't here. What happened? Man, ain't nobody. So now, I said, man, I told you. Ain't nobody told me. I don't know what happened. What? What happened, Man, I can't believe you ain't here. You sure Ain't nobody that told you. I said, bucket. I said, cuz, at the time, his name was Fuzz. Everybody called him Fuzz. I said, fuzz, bro, I don't know what happened, man. I said, I've been down here in my locker. He say, man, man, you sure? I said, man, I don't even want to hear, man, go here. He said, man, old boy caught his. Caught his girl with somebody else in the dorm. Oh. I say, what? What? He said, yeah, man, it was a big old. It was a big old thing going on down there. I say, man, I said, ooh, Sharp. I said, oh, did he. You know, Me? Hey, you know me. Don't tell me that. I don't need to know that you on the team. Yeah, and somebody did that. So you know me. I go to it. I said, well, damn you. That old boy, he ain't even on the team. You let him get it. Let me get some. Ah, man, come on, Sharp. Come on. I said, whoa, whoa, whoa. Now you want to fight me? I ain't do it. He did. You ain't fight him. Whoa, whoa, slow down. So you know me. Ain't nobody ate a whole lot of people in the locker. So you know what I'm gonna do? I gotta wait till we get to stretching. Cause everybody there.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I said, well, God, dog, I said, you might want to turn your boy on. He get up out of line. He get out. Cause he at the back. Cause you know, I'm the captain. And then, you know, he start us and go all the way back to the back. So he in the back. He get up out the back and walk up, and he's standing up over me. I said, boy, if you don't get your ass back in line. I say, I tell you what. I bet you if I stand up, this issue ain't gonna be pretty, bro gonna walk it off. Cause you let that man do all that, but now you want to try to tussle with me, man, let that go. Nah, I can't let it go. I' ma let it go once we don't got all our laughs in, boy. Hey, anytime that. Hey, what's up, boy? Here.

[Liberty City Zone]

Oh, man, come on, man.

[Joe Johnson]

You know Joe Ocho, you know you can't let us find out anything.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Especially nothing like that.

[Joe Johnson]

No siree.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Especially nothing like that.

[Joe Johnson]

No, sir.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, that's. Hey, that cut, though, the man already going through it.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Them jokes, I gotta put it through it some more.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Jokes gonna fly joke.

[Joe Johnson]

They gonna have a regard. Like I'm saying, if you. If you could. If you go to a black college, if you can't. Joan.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Don't even done.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You done. Don't even. Don't even register.

[Joe Johnson]

Don't even go. Don't go. Joe, I'm telling you, I don't saw a lot of fights happen because, you know, hey, you know how the other hands fall for the game.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

See, the problem is, is that you don't get mad at the guy, Jon. You get mad at oo laughing.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

What you laughing at? I ain't say nothing. I'm just laughing.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Now you want to tussle because you think oh, you think, Ocho? Easy. Got a dude joining you? Oh, no, no. But that's how it was.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Good day.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, man, I can't get no ink, okay? Not now. It's too late now. The only thing I ever wanted was an earring.

[Liberty City Zone]

It ain't too late.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, it is too late, man. I'm damn near 60. What I look like getting in the race?

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

Age ain't nothing but a number, man.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, hold on. What kind of earring you looking for? I got you, bro. What kind of earring you looking for? No, you ain't. You got your ears big.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, Joe, my guy. I got both my. I ain't had no earrings since I played, boy. You know, I had a little. Stars from Claire's.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, man, I'm. I'm. I got some upstairs.

[Joe Johnson]

I wanted one. My mom said, when you get out, when you graduate high school, you can get it. I ain't want it in because all my friends had already started getting them. They started getting the 9th. 10th grade. 11th grade, they get in the ears. I was like, damn, man. I called Mama, Granny say, I told granny, I want an earring. She said, boy, call your mama. Mama said, boy, I come down there and beat your ass. Yeah. No. No earring for the kid. And so did you take it personal when Danny Fairy traded you to Brooklyn and was you blindsided by the trades?

[Liberty City Zone]

Did I take it personal? At first, not really. Soon as he got the job. Uncle Ocho, I'm talking about as soon as he got the job, I was the first person who he traded. So I never got to talk to him. I never. Me and him never had a conversation. It was none of that, you know? It was like he signed on the dotted line. He kind of already had a play for me. But the thing that was crazy is that I had my homeboy who was playing on the summer league team. So I'm still coming into the arena every day, and I see him every day, but he don't say nothing to me. I don't say nothing to him. I ain't, you know, I ain't pissed off, you know, it is what it is part of the business, you know? Ain't nobody untradable. I understood that part, but he never. He never told me, you know. He never told me nothing, bro. Me and him never even spoke. I seen him on countless occasions,

[Joe Johnson]

and then. And then he ended up getting fired because he said that stuff about.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah, yeah. So I don't know, man. You know.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, so you ain't got no ears pierced. I'm looking. You. Oh, you let them close up.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Nah. Yeah, they probably close up right now. Hey, not just. I just stick something back through there. It open up.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, no.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You know I like needles, huh? I do. I got. I got 47 tattoos I don't care nothing about. No. A little needle going through the air,

[Joe Johnson]

man, my sister pierced my cousin. Them ears and a sewing needle. Okay.

[Liberty City Zone]

She kind of froze it a little bit. Got it?

[Joe Johnson]

Yep.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah. Put. Put some heat on it first, you know.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, dad, we ain't know nothing about no gun. Nothing about that. Burn. Burn. One of my grandma's sewing needles. Put ice cubes on that thing, let that thing numb and stuck it right through there. Got the broom straw, burnt both ends, put it in there, let the broom straw stand there for about a week, and then you went. Got some. Some hoops and some studs.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah. Hey, hey, look. Damn, man. I went to clearance. Got that little gold ball in there.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, me. Hey, Joe, me and you too.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, hey. Hell, that little teddy bear tight as a ball, you hear me?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Wow.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

People talking about, man. So it. Needles, ice cube, man. What you. Hold on. I don't know what y' all think they gonna use. That's how people. That's how people pierce their ears. Back then, it wasn't.

[Liberty City Zone]

No.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, the guns came along later, but it wasn't no guns. You got a sewing needle or a safety pin, what it called body. No safety pins. Just. Yeah, just one of them pins that you hook.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You get your clothes? Yeah, one old big ones. Burn it, let that thing numb up. Push it right through.

[Liberty City Zone]

Damn.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, there was some good day. Good memories, boy. Good memories, man.

[Joe Johnson]

As a father who was. Who has a demanding job on the road a lot to being a pro athlete, what advice would you give to be the best father while providing. It's.

[Liberty City Zone]

It's challenging, boy.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Very.

[Joe Johnson]

Very.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

It's a little easier now, though.

[Joe Johnson]

Not for him. When he seems like he has on the road a lot. So that means, I guess he's a truck driver or something that requires him to be away from home.

[Liberty City Zone]

Right.

[Joe Johnson]

Just when you're present, you got to be present.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

When you say you want to do something, you got to be able to do it. And sometimes you have to, like, okay, I'll do that. Something comes up, and then you like, you know, I know I probably could use the money, but once you tell them a kid that you're gonna do something, especially after you're away, you got

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

to be There got to do it.

[Liberty City Zone]

Because they don't forget.

[Joe Johnson]

They don't.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

No.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, hey. Them kids got memories like elephants. Boy, I'm talking about. Hey, anything you say, they gonna hold on to it and remember it.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You gotta have them uncomfortable conversations, too.

[Joe Johnson]

Yep.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Kids, you know, at that age, whatever age they are at understanding, you know, what your job entails. And it has your way for long, long periods of time. So they have a better understanding of what's going on, even though they might not understand it. But just having that uncomfortable conversation with them.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Will help out a lot.

[Joe Johnson]

It's hard, and I don't care. Even the most devout fathers, they're gonna miss something. You're gonna miss some recitals, because guess what? You got practice.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yep.

[Joe Johnson]

You're gonna miss some PTAs, cause you're gonna be away. It's just. It's just a part. And hopefully you've explained it to your partner and she understands that. That that's a part of your job. And she's going to have to be mom and dad a lot, especially early on. I mean, think about. Think about it now. LeBron has been in the league 20 years. That's longer than Brownie's been alive. How many things did you think he's missed but when he had an opportunity to get there.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Even if it meant, you know what, hey, I'm. I'm gonna catch up. I'm gonna rent the jet, I'm gonna go see Bronnie, and I'll meet y' all there. Everybody doesn't have that luxury. And you have to make sacrifices, but, you know, you got to put bread on the table. You gotta. You gotta feed a family. You got to do what you got to do. You gotta do what you got to do. But I just said the only thing I would tell you, bro, is that be available the best way you can. Because everybody's being available is different. So don't look. Well, hey, X, Y, and Z, his parents are there or xy, and that happened. No, you be there the best way you can. But at the end of the day, you got to provide. You got to put a roof over his head. You got to put food on the table. You got to take care of your family. So I commend you. Thanks for the. Don't play with my name. I'll post you up. Y' all see. Y' all see who that came from?

[Liberty City Zone]

Who was that?

[Joe Johnson]

Somebody got Domination 5.

[Liberty City Zone]

That was it. For real?

[Joe Johnson]

Nope. They need to take that D and put a B in front of It. A hallucination, man. Kill zone. Oo. Do you realize OKC didn't start really beating the Lakers until the fourth quarter every game? Luca gives you 30, 35 a night. It would have been different. Oo. It would have been different.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, my God.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, look, that's all I'm saying, bro. Like, damn.

[Joe Johnson]

That's all we saying. Oo.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

All right, you know what, y', all

[Joe Johnson]

Right, this is where Hobby.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

All right, y'.

[Joe Johnson]

All.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Y' all say, okay, yeah, if Luca played, you know, beating the defender champs, you had a better chance of beating the defending champs. I got you.

[Joe Johnson]

You think so?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hell, no.

[Liberty City Zone]

I'm just saying it would have been.

[Joe Johnson]

It would.

[Liberty City Zone]

The games would have been a little better. They probably would have won a couple

[Joe Johnson]

uncultured J. I see you got my boy Anderson Pack on Club Shay. Shay. He's probably my favorite music artist right now. I requested him on Discord also earlier this year, so glad to see it come to fruition. It was great. It was great sitting down to him. I told him, I'm gonna catch him when him. And who's the guy, Ocho? Bruno Mars.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Bruno.

[Joe Johnson]

Woohoo. I told him, I' ma catch him. I'm gonna tell you. I'll catch you. So hopefully, hey, hopefully, y' all enjoy it, because, you know, every time I have somebody, why you got this person on there? Have somebody like this here on there. Have somebody that's uplifting the culture, I say, well, you can start your own podcast and have whoever you want. Well, I ain't got no platform. Well, how the hell you. In my comments. Hey, you do realize if you in somebody's comments, you got a platform. What the hell? I just didn't look up at the sky and see you rolling in the sky.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, that's a good one. The hell that's a good one.

[Joe Johnson]

So hopefully that I like. I like Addison, man. I like Suki. I mean, Oo, when you get down. When you get an opportunity to sit down and really, like, talk to people and really get a chance to see. Yeah, and she. Man, she had me crying.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

It give you a different perspective.

[Joe Johnson]

It does. I mean, to sit down and talk to Glorilla and talk to Meg the Stallion and talk to Kiki Palmer and to talk to a lot of these people that I never, never would have been able to talk to had I not had this platform, Right? But, man, like I say, glow. Glow. One of my favorite. She was absolutely one of my favorite.

[Liberty City Zone]

But Besuki, she cut up, didn't you, man?

[Joe Johnson]

Man, Joe and people like, man, uncle. I was like, bro, you do realize I'm not used to hearing people talk like this in real life. I mean, we talk a certain way, but I do not. Women.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I do it all the time, but

[Joe Johnson]

I'm Ocho, think about it. We don't hear women. Women talk. Oh, I mean, she talk about. Oh, yeah. They don't see my.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah. She wide open. She's wide open.

[Joe Johnson]

I said, lord have mercy. Yo, I just. Hey. I just start rubbing my hand.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You know. Oh, you got nightcap. Homegirl in Rome called. What you do? You got nightcap. But homegirl in Rome called. She. She was just. She happened to be over there. She was from America. She just happened to be over there studying because she was a. She was getting a degree in business and language. And so.

[Liberty City Zone]

Say you had to get over there.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a volleyball player. Was she five eight, I think. 162. Five eight, five nine. 162. I'm talking about legs. I'm talking about slit down the leg. Teardrop,

[Liberty City Zone]

Jason,

[Joe Johnson]

not low. What do you know? Ocho, do you realize that. That I interrupted a week of my training?

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah, no.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Just for that,

[Joe Johnson]

boy, like Ray Charles. Hit the road, Jack. Don't you come back no more. I hit the road.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, boy, that.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That's a special one there, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Cuz. Y' all know them volleyball players. Y' all know how they built. I ain't telling y' all nothing. I ain't telling y' all nothing. Y' all don't already know.

[Liberty City Zone]

They already know.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That's a special one to be able to take that trip as. As disciplined as you are when it comes to training.

[Joe Johnson]

But I got my traded in, Ocho. I got my traded in. When I got there, she had a gym already lined up.

[Liberty City Zone]

Okay, okay.

[Joe Johnson]

The family, they was cooking. I mean, we went out a couple of times, but a family was cooking. But, you know, they cook it out because I wanted to try some. I was in. I was in Italy.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

She was staying with a family, so I wanted to taste Noki, and I wanted to taste. They making everything handmade, right? And all that stuff. I was like, well, damn.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

But, Dan, you done met the family and all.

[Joe Johnson]

No, it wasn't her family. She. She was staying with a family in it. Oh, abroad.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Okay, okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, for the same.

[Liberty City Zone]

Damn.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You. You were locked in.

[Joe Johnson]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Obviously, I met, but I'm saying.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I was like, okay, yeah, Back in the day. Now.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

He had them signs up. We'll. Y' all know what my sign said? I ain't gotta say it, but you know what he said.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

No, y' all don't. Y' all don't want to tell me, but I know, Ocho. I know you don't win. I know, Joe. You know, back in the day, when you were younger, Joe, I know you travel.

[Liberty City Zone]

I didn't travel, but I ain't.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I ain't go that far.

[Liberty City Zone]

Not for some hoo ha. I ain't travel that far for the hoo ha.

[Joe Johnson]

You done travel. You done left the state with some.

[Liberty City Zone]

With some. With me.

[Joe Johnson]

No, to go get something to go get.

[Liberty City Zone]

Oh, no, I ain't never did that.

[Joe Johnson]

No, you ain't. So you ain't so. Everything you've been. So you ain't never. So Florida. So you ain't never went to, like, Georgia or. Or California or. Or Texas.

[Liberty City Zone]

Oh, that's different. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

No different. I say you travel. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Liberty City Zone]

Oh, children done that, too. He can. You better stop lying. If you talking about. He never done that.

[Joe Johnson]

Who.

[Liberty City Zone]

If she was in a different state, you'd have been to a different state, man.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Man, now, you better come to me, man. I'm book your flight, Joe. What you talking about?

[Liberty City Zone]

I don't like.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, Joe, I don't like to go nowhere right now. Still to this day, you think I'm flying for some damn who out when I can get some? Right here in Miami.

[Liberty City Zone]

In your early 20s, Ocho?

[Joe Johnson]

Hell, no. With what money? You was in the league, Ocho.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, Uncle. Yo, camera.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, I went out.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, yeah, man. Hey, this. No, especially. Especially when I was in the league. You definitely flying to me. I got.

[Joe Johnson]

I got.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You know, I got me a little pocket change, too.

[Liberty City Zone]

So what.

[Joe Johnson]

What about.

[Liberty City Zone]

What about in the off season, though? You got. You got a little something.

[Joe Johnson]

You.

[Liberty City Zone]

You know what I mean?

[Joe Johnson]

You.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, you coming to Miami?

[Liberty City Zone]

Oh, man.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, you know how that's dangerous, man. You ain't going to nobody.

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't.

[Liberty City Zone]

Oh, man.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey.

[Joe Johnson]

To the win.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, you don't know what they got going on. Nah, I'm good, man. And. And I was. And I was the other. I was number two with number three back then, too. Hell, I ain't flying to nobody.

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't know. I ain't know what I was. I just went.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I made it clear.

[Liberty City Zone]

He said he didn't know what he was.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey.

[Liberty City Zone]

Oh, you just going with the flow. I'm like, hey, I'm Just going with the flow, man. Hey, we having a good time.

[Joe Johnson]

Do you think Aiden would be a good center for my Celtics? Yeah, y' all should try him out.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah, he probably wouldn't be bad. For real. While you playing over in the east, the west is too. It's too much in the west, bro. Tell me they should try him out.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, that was. That was them with the days, guys. Yeah, G. And it funny how time just lifts all the way. See, that's why I couldn't hang with O.O. see, OO. O.O. ain't no fun. He don't like to travel.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, listen, my fun don't have nothing to do with traveling, boy.

[Liberty City Zone]

They had something to do with.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Ah, yeah. Okay. Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Go.

[Liberty City Zone]

Okay. Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I put a better roll. Hey, go to Florida, you know. Hey, I hit the road, South Carolina. I hit the road now.

[Liberty City Zone]

Back in the day.

[Joe Johnson]

Not now, not now, not now.

[Liberty City Zone]

I already know I'm cutting up.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, boy, I was. Turn me loose.

[Liberty City Zone]

OO was.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, ain't no.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Huh?

[Joe Johnson]

What you say, Joe?

[Liberty City Zone]

I said OO was. He was cutting up, too. Acting like.

[Joe Johnson]

I know.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh. Oo.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, you know, I did a little something.

[Joe Johnson]

I know, but. But, but look, we all talking past tense. That's not who we are now. It's got. That's out of my system. It's out of my system.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah,

[Joe Johnson]

but somebody said. But why? Want to be normal. I am normal. I am normal. I mean, I might have some. Some idiosyncrasies that, you know, Load the dishwasher back to front. Don't leave, you know, cups and things in the. In the. In the sink.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

That's a pet peeve of mine, too. Oh, Joe, you don't load the dishwasher front to back, do you?

[Liberty City Zone]

Front to back? Nah.

[Joe Johnson]

Load the dishwasher back to front.

[Liberty City Zone]

No, no, no, I don't do that. I'm sorry. I don't.

[Joe Johnson]

You open the dishwasher just to check. No, I. It. It ticks me off. Why you do that? Oh, Joe, you load it front to back, so you know what's in there. So. Oh, my goodness. Man, this joker here, You know, ain't no place in the world like la. The only place Brian is going ahead and close that thing out in Cleveland. Cleveland. I just don't see it. I just don't see. I just don't see Cleveland.

[Liberty City Zone]

You don't see it. It's hard to see him leaving la. Seriously, What do you say, Ojo?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I mean, it was Hard to envision him leaving Cleveland. He left, didn't he?

[Joe Johnson]

No, it wasn't that hard. Because the thing is, is that. They couldn't get anybody to come join him in Cleveland. Hey, no, look at this. Come on, now. Look at that team. Look at that team that he took to the fight his last year there, Joe. He had no business getting that. He had no business getting that team out of the first round. Damn. The second round, the Eastern Conference. He had no business getting that team out of the first round.

[Liberty City Zone]

Nah, but he elevated everybody's play, bro. He did that.

[Joe Johnson]

Ant Man, Juana man, Sandman, the Taliban, spurs and six.

[Liberty City Zone]

Come on.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Ojo. ISO, what are your thoughts on Darren Peterson having cramps from too much creatine? It'll do it. They advise you take creatine, drink a lot of water. It won't water, and it's gonna pull it from somewhere.

[Liberty City Zone]

You got to. Hey, hey, look. And you know what? It's crazy because I never took creatine until I got to college, too. You know, they try to put a

[Joe Johnson]

little weight on you. Yeah.

[Liberty City Zone]

When you get to college. But I ain't experienced that, though.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I. I took it. I took a lot. I took it, but I drank. I mean, I was drinking probably 3 to 4 of those 1.5 liter bottles of water a day.

[Liberty City Zone]

Oh, yeah. Now, it puts some weight on you now, if you do it right.

[Joe Johnson]

But I was who? You see that? You see that, Ocho?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, we about the same. Hey, we about the same size now.

[Liberty City Zone]

Come on, man.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, Joe, I'm rocked up.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah. Yeah, I see.

[Joe Johnson]

So you could. Joe. So now, you know, when I was, what, 20, 20 in my 20s. Can you imagine when I was 20, my 20s and 30s. They want to see O'. Shea. They want to see old shape. They want to see not long, no siree. What? It's on the eight. That gonna be my husband right there. I would like that. For real, though.

[Liberty City Zone]

I believe, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

I believe Ocho been 165 his whole life.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I'm 205 right now. Hey, you seen me carrying that weight around out there today?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, wait, you carried around, don't you?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

No, you saw it.

[Joe Johnson]

What does that. Ojo, I'm trying to figure out what

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

you carry, all right? Matter of fact, I make sure y' all got some extra clips tomorrow.

[Liberty City Zone]

What's wrong with this, man?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Bro, I'm just. I'm just telling you, Joe. I'm telling you, boy. Joe, when I get in front of you, hey. And I slide these puppies, you Gonna slide on him. Hey, hey. He don't understand.

[Joe Johnson]

And I hit you.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, hey, hey. And I hit you with this big ass shoulder. How shapey hitting them boys out there,

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Joe, I'm not worried about. I may absorb that contact and I'm gonna be right there. I'm gonna anchor down. Joe, that don't do nothing.

[Joe Johnson]

You can't absolutely act like you talking

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

to some rookie or something.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, you can't absorb the contact and still contest, you gonna have to do one or the other. You feel me?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Joe, you ain't gonna tell me what I'm gonna be able to do.

[Liberty City Zone]

Okay?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I'm not none of them other people you be playing at the ymca, boy.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah, okay.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You hear me, boy? Okay. Yeah.

[Liberty City Zone]

Well, I promise you, you gonna keep my name out your damn mouth, I tell you that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, they called me the ISO stopper, boy.

[Liberty City Zone]

All right?

[Joe Johnson]

The ISO stopper Jordan.

[Liberty City Zone]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe, what's up? This. See this what old 54 year old look like what you call. Go zoom it in. That's 54, Joe.

[Liberty City Zone]

You weren't messing around with your man.

[Joe Johnson]

That's two. That's. Joe, that's 252 pounds, Joe.

[Liberty City Zone]

Damn.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, don't make me come up out this shirt.

[Liberty City Zone]

That boy was yoked up.

[Joe Johnson]

What?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, Joe, don't. Hey, don't make me come up out this shirt.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah. Hey, hey. You died and everything was right.

[Joe Johnson]

1. Oh, yeah, yeah, Joe. Yeah, Joe. I got to get my discipline back so I can. So I could. What you call them? I don't want to look like that. That's too much.

[Liberty City Zone]

You said that's too much. It's too much work, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Liberty City Zone]

Too much mental stress.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, okay. It's working then. Ain't nobody want to be with you because like, you ain't going nowhere. You ain't eating nothing.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, you be irritable and all that though.

[Joe Johnson]

You do, you do, Joe, I ain't gonna hold you. You do. So. So I was like, nah, I'm good. But I got. I'm losing. I'm gonna get down to like 2. I'm gonna get down to 45. I get down to 45, like it ain't nothing. It's something. I mean, I'm on that bike. I'm on that bike all the time now.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah, what you doing, about 45 minutes?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I do 45, but I'm going. All I'm doing. I'm going. I'm going all out.

[Liberty City Zone]

Well, your heart you got. You keep up with your heart rate

[Joe Johnson]

and all that I used to. I'm gonna start back wearing a heart rate monitor. I'm gonna start back wearing it. But I go. I was. I'm doing on the concept bike, the erg.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I go for. I got to. I can get 20. I go like a little under 15 miles in 45 minutes.

[Liberty City Zone]

Damn. Oh, yeah, he's chucking.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. If your front office man got a man named Jerry run, I know

[Liberty City Zone]

they have.

[Joe Johnson]

Joe, they say you need to run. If your front office back, guy.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah, they got chill. They gotta chill, and

[Joe Johnson]

I don't know. It ain't looking good for y', all, Joe.

[Liberty City Zone]

What you mean?

[Joe Johnson]

They said. They said. But y', all, you know. Yeah, we're gonna see what y' all gonna do. Y' all got picked back. Y' all got CD Dak that no off season surgery. So, you know, I'm gonna see what y' all gonna put down.

[Liberty City Zone]

Oh, yeah. We should get off to a good start. We got the Giants open up. We gonna probably. We're gonna probably blow the doors off them, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn, Ocho, you heard Joe say he gonna blow the dose off the Giants.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, you know what? I'm not even gonna disrespect Joe and Cowboys. We know what they say. Every season is the same thing. Same, same.

[Joe Johnson]

Nothing happened to her. Nah.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, look, I'm just telling you what I feel. Considering what the Giants kind of went through with some of the top guys. Yeah. We should get off to a damn good start. All right.

[Joe Johnson]

We open up. We open up with Kansas City. We. I think we got Kansas City. Don't. We got Kansas City? Ash.

[Liberty City Zone]

Ocho, who y' all open up with?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I'm not sure we open up with. I know we play in Madrid week.

[Liberty City Zone]

Falcons, who they open up with, Lost.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, don't y' all open up a Kansas City. Yeah, okay. Lost.

[Liberty City Zone]

Let me see.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, you think so? No, we got cat, Joe, Ocho, you know, we got Kansas City number. Now, Joe, you know, we had that Ocho for.

[Liberty City Zone]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Loss.

[Joe Johnson]

They kind of leaked. They kind of leaked a little stuff. How is LeBron considered to go with all these times he's been swept in the finals and the playoffs? Other. Other than longevity. Kobe, Steph never swept in the finals.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hold on. My bad. Say it again.

[Joe Johnson]

Made the playoffs.

[Liberty City Zone]

Oh, they said what?

[Joe Johnson]

How long? So Kobe, the playoffs his last four or five years. Did Kobe make the playoffs his last four years?

[Liberty City Zone]

Nah, I think when he went out. When he went out with that. What? He had 62 that night.

[Joe Johnson]

That 60 point his final game.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Because I think Kobe, when he. When he tore his Achilles, he was trying to make the. Trying to make the. And trying to make the playoffs that year. That's why, you know.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

The last four years. So Kobe missed the playoffs his last four years. Yeah, but we ain't gonna talk. Look this. Look, we. We on a happy time. We don't move past that. We'll talk about that a little later time. What's up, fellas? Love the show. Been tuning in for about a year, but never gave you props. M. Appreciate that support, guys. Really, really appreciate it. Bruno Mars or the weekend Ravens dead Crosby. Dirty Cowboys will beat the Bingles. Ocho, Chad, please.

[Liberty City Zone]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, look, weekend got some stuff.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, both of them got his boy.

[Joe Johnson]

They do.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

But we talk about two different artists.

[Joe Johnson]

It's just that. Bruno. Entertainment factor.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah. Two different artists, two different sounds. I mean, it's almost hard to compare the two.

[Joe Johnson]

Then what we can say. Ever since I was. I was legit. Don't you sing that song. What weekend. He got a big song. Probably got like 5, 10 billion views. Now. Y' all talking about. Oh, Kobe wasn't the GM. LeBron ain't the GM. You see the buddy, but you see how they keep moving the gold pool. Cowboys play the Bengals this year, Ocho?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I don't think so.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh. Cause that's gonna be an L. They

[Liberty City Zone]

ain't want that smoke.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, telling the album the Poke High story. Nah, bro. Ain't no Poke county stories here. Hey, bro, hold on. Talk about Joe. Do they realize that I've been to Pro Football hall of Fame?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

We talked. Hey, Pro Football hall of Fame ain't got nothing to do with them 52 points you scored in OO I'm telling

[Joe Johnson]

you, I was a better. If you go ask anybody in Glenville, they will tell you I was a better basketball player than a football player. Oo. I got one trophy in four years of high school football. I was the MVP my senior year. That's the only trophy that I got.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I ain't buying it until I see some footage.

[Joe Johnson]

Go ask anybody that went to Savannah State from 86 to 19.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I need. I need footage.

[Joe Johnson]

Ask about. Ask about the Juice. I guarantee you, everybody know. Don't nobody know who other teams were. But everybody know about the Juice Crew. All star featuring. Who are they featuring? Ocho. Oh, my goodness.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, I'm.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, I'm stealing that name tomorrow. I'm still in that name tomorrow on. On the man

[Joe Johnson]

nightcap. I've Heard enough. This going to be too far. Forget the one on ones ISO vs oo in a Texas bull rope match. Man, I w y don't nothing about no Texas bull rope match. That's WWE style

[Liberty City Zone]

Bull rope.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I want to.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, take his bull rope match. See, they had. They had a steel cage match, they had the Texas bull rope match, they had. What the hell?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, we need to just fight. We need to fight with brass knuckles on.

[Liberty City Zone]

That's cool, man. Hey, hey, however, I'll let you pick, partner.

[Joe Johnson]

Whatever you want to pick, huh?

[Liberty City Zone]

Whatever you want to pick here. Because he the one gonna be getting hitting upside his damn head. I don't know what you think this is.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I'm definitely not getting hit, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Bink.

[Liberty City Zone]

Bink.

[Joe Johnson]

Do y' all think the Los Angeles Lakers problem is actually roster construction? Or LeBron's greatness spoiled an organization into thinking there's always one move away? Look, a lot of times when you great, you think that, hey, I just make a little simple move. Those days are over, Joe. Ocho. I think they're over. Let me know what you think, Joe.

[Liberty City Zone]

For the Lakers?

[Joe Johnson]

For any team. I don't. I think when you look at it, the way these teams are constructed, you look at Boston, you look at the Knicks, you look at the spurs, you look at okc.

[Liberty City Zone]

I think anywhere Bron.

[Joe Johnson]

I think so deep now.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

These teams go eight, nine, legit deep. And everybody on those teams gonna get minutes on any other roster. They're gonna get minutes. Hey, I know Jordan Johnson's gonna get minutes. Mitchell and Caruso and those guys and Wallace, those guys that come off the beach, they're gonna get minutes on any other roster.

[Liberty City Zone]

You know why? Because these are two way guys. All them two way guys,

[Joe Johnson]

Sir Cates, my guys, Ocho, Unk. I know it's early, but who has the most approved this upcoming season? Burrow Allen. Dak, I. So what team do you see my tar here brother, Caleb Wilson going to in the draft? Burrow needs to prove he can stay healthy. Josh Allen needs to prove he can win the big game when it matters the most. And Dak got to get the team past the damn going to get him to the championship. Everybody got something to prove. Yeah, because as a matter of fact, everybody's put up numbers. Josh Allen is one of the mvp. Joe Burrows went to a Super Bowl. Dak is thrown for a gazillion yards. Yeah, so what we talking about? Everybody has individual accolades, but last I checked, football is a team sport. They're gonna have to get their teams to the ultimate prize, the ultimate finish line. Everybody believe they've made the move. Look at Buffalo has changed their coach. Oh, I told you that. Remember I told you you said it

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

was going to be a problem this season.

[Joe Johnson]

I said ocho bet he got to win. They can't. That closeness Burrow has been. Look, he got his guys back. Ocho say they've done a great job. He loved the additions that they made defensively.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah. Huge.

[Joe Johnson]

The Cowboys, they say, hey, we got rid of Michael and we turned that into Quinny Williams. We turned that into what's the Clark. We turned that into the, the D, the draft picks. Now it's time to go get it.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yes, sir.

[Joe Johnson]

It's time to go get it. It's really, it's really that simple. No more excuses, right? Thank you guys for joining us. The San Antonio spurs take a 32 lead thanks to a 12697 victory over the top, the Timberwolves. And Victor Wimanyama, he made up for that big ejection in Game 4. 27 points, 17 rebounds, 5 assists, 3 big blocks plus 24, the highest plus minus in the game, along with D Aaron Fox. Thank you guys for joining us. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite unc. And that is my partner and co host, Liberty City Zone, the Bingo Ring of Fame honoree, the matting ratings adjuster, a former Pro Bowler and an all Pro, he's Chad Ocho, Cinco Johnson, and the third member of the Big three, a seven time NBA all star from the University of Arkansas, from the Atlanta Hawks, ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed. Wherever you get your podcast from. We'd like to thank each and every one of you for your support and your continued support. Because none of this is possible without you. We don't, we don't care where we are. We don't have the praise. We don't have the adulation without your support. So again, from the Nightcap family, thank you. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shade by Laportier, head over to laportiercognac.com to purchase you a bottle if it's currently unavailable in a state or city near you. It is a premium BSOP cognac, the best tasting, smoothest VSOP cognac on the market. And it drinks like an XO. Remember, we have two sizes. The OG, which is the 750, and the Junior, which is the 375 same great quality, same great taste, same smoothness. Please wreck responsibly and stay safe again. The San Antonio spurs are one win away from facing the OKC Thunder in the Western Conference Finals thanks to Victor Wembanyama, 27 points, 17 rebounds, 5 assists and 3 blocks. He came back with a vengeance and he led them to a 29 point victory, 126 to 97. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I'm Unc, he's Ocho, he's ISO. We'll see you tomorrow night after the Cavaliers Pistons. Sam.

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[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

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[Joe Johnson]

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[Joe Johnson]

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