Nightcap Hour 3: Mom vs GF HEATED Debate, Hunting and surviving the Wilderness

Summary

Nightcap Hour 3: Mom vs. Girlfriend HEATED Debate, Hunting and Surviving the Wilderness

Hosts: Shannon Sharpe ("Unc"), Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson ("Ocho"), Joe "ISO" Johnson
Special Guest: Antoine Walker
Date: May 5, 2026

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Episode Overview

This lively Nightcap episode features Shannon Sharpe, Chad Ochocinco Johnson, and Joe "ISO" Johnson discussing everything from NBA Playoffs drama and iconic sports debates to a spirited argument about survival skills and a “mom vs. girlfriend” relationship question. True to Nightcap form, the hosts bring humor, strong opinions, and a touch of nostalgia, weaving in personal stories and unfiltered takes on the latest sports headlines. The show’s tone is relaxed and engaging—part barbershop, part late-night hangout—offering sports fans and casual listeners alike a seat at the table.

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Main Discussion Points and Highlights

Reflecting on 90s Culture & Style

[02:20–07:00]

• The hosts kick off with playful banter about the episode’s graphic design and 90s nostalgia—boots, overalls, and music.
• Quote, Ocho: “If you grew up in the 90s, you already know what Jodeci sittin’ on.” [02:44]
• Playful ribbing on old school accessories, from Timbs to parachute pants and overalls.
• Unc jokes about his bad knees being from wearing Timbs, while Ocho fondly recalls matching outfit sets:
  • “I had Tim in every color...” [06:26]
  • "Man, I had Tim from the butters to black to green to red. I had every color…" [06:26]

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Viewer Q&A / Nightcap Super Chat

[08:22–43:12]

NBA Playoff Analysis

[12:40–15:45]

• Discussion on the impact of Shannon's comments potentially "waking up" Embiid in the playoffs.
• Picks for Eastern Conference:
  • Ocho and Unc talk up the Knicks as their Finals pick.
  • Joe sides with Detroit but admits Knicks are strong.
• Quote, Unc: “Statue of Liberty, she finna walk out that water, too.” [14:55]

Route Running & Basketball Isolation

[16:11–18:34]

• Top three all-time NFL route runners:
  • Ocho: Marvin Harrison, Jerry Rice, Davante Adams
  • Unc: Wonders why Antonio Brown (AB) wasn’t mentioned
• Best "bag work" isolation basketball players:
  • Joe Johnson: “I'ma go Kyrie [Irving]…and James Harden in Houston, his bag work was impeccable.” [18:03]
  • Ocho: “What about Jamal Crawford?”
  • Joe: “Jamal got a nice bag…long, nice left to right crossover.” [18:30]

Film Study – NFL vs NBA

[19:50–21:26]

• ISO and Ocho compare NFL/NBA habits.
• Joe stresses importance of watching film, reading tendencies:
  • “...you have to understand tendencies, you have to understand defensive assignments…the do’s and don’ts...” [20:08]

“Mom vs. Girlfriend” Heated Debate: Strength vs. Vulnerability

[22:50–26:29]

• Question: "Would you rather have a woman who loves you enough to let you be weak, or one who respects you so much she won’t let you?"
• Ocho: “A woman that respect me so much she won't let me. Most times, those moments of weakness, they use against you when they angry.” [23:11]
• Shannon: “Nah, I want somebody that loves me enough to let me be weak in the moment...when I'm not weak, I need you to be strong, 'cause you say you're my backbone.” [23:40]
• Discussion about support systems, letting your guard down, and the realities beyond the "honeymoon phase."
• Memorable moment: Emotional authenticity from Shannon admitting how rare he lets his guard down:
  • “But if you're in my space and I let myself down…all I need to know, if I fall, you gonna catch me.” [24:54]

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"Survivor" and Wilderness Skills Showdown

[27:49–39:16]

• Hypothetical: If Unc, Ocho, and Joe had to compete on "Survivor" at age 25, who’d win?
• Both Shannon (Unc) and Ocho stake their claim, comparing upbringings and survival backgrounds:
  • Shannon: “I was just five years removed from no running water, no indoor plumbing, eating raccoon…” [28:46]
  • Ocho: “But young brother, you’re not surviving like I did out there in the wilderness…” [29:11]
• Vivid, humorous argument over who knows how to skin animals, dress game, and use firearms:
  • Ocho insists, “It's on YouTube!” [31:38]
  • Shannon details cleaning squirrels, fish, and raccoon
• Joe admits he'd need YouTube: “Hell, no. I ain't gonna say a lot of y'. [about skinning animals]” [31:35]
• Conversation devolves into playful boasts and challenges—hunting, fishing, and even using a bow.
  • Shannon: “I shot a 12 gauge. I shot a 30, 30, 30.06...”
  • Ocho: “Why bring that thing from the hip, boy? Stop playing me.” [35:27]

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Fast Food Picks

[45:41–47:11]

• If you could only eat three fast food restaurants forever:
  • Ocho: “McDonald's, Waffle House, and…”
  • Joe: “Waffle House. Pecan waffle with them six eggs. Sc.” [46:26]
  • Shannon: “IHOP, Raising Canes...”
• Relatable and funny; highlights the everyman charm of the hosts.

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Music Culture War: Jay-Z vs Nas, Mary J vs Beyonce

[53:21–56:29]

• Unc, Ocho, and Joe debate classics:
  • Jay-Z or Nas: Joe and Ocho pick Nas, Unc initially leans Nas but is open.
  • Mary J. Blige or Beyonce: Consensus that it’s not a proper comparison—Mary’s closer to Fantasia, Jennifer Hudson, or Jasmine Sullivan.
  • Reminiscing old school concerts, and the importance of matching up "like" artists.

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NBA History Talk: Records and Greats

[39:46–52:50]

• Discussion on rare NBA quadruple-doubles:
  • Nate Thurmond, Hakeem Olajuwon, David Robinson, Alvin Robertson [40:06]
  • Unc: “Wimby passes well enough to get 10 assists…and the way he blocks shots…He might get one this series.” [40:31]
• Evaluating all-time tight ends and Hall of Fame cases:
  • Jason Witten compared to Tony Gonzalez, Gronk, Gates, Kelsey
• Joe on Jamal Crawford: “He was a natural hooper…workaholic…he worked on all those shots.” [51:34]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “If you grew up in the 90s, you already know what Jodeci sitting on.” – Ocho [02:44]
• “A woman that respect me so much she won't let me. Most of the time, those moments of weakness they use against you when they angry.” – Ocho [23:11]
• “All I need to know if I fall, you gonna catch me.” —Unc [24:54]
• “I was just five years removed from no running water, no indoor plumbing, eating raccoon. So I don't know what you're talking about.” —Unc [28:46]
• “If you can get them squirrel, keep them off my grandma’s mangoes.” – Ocho [31:10]
• “Put me out there. Put me some cleese on and tell me what we going to hunt.” – Ocho [38:37]
• “He only won when he played with Golden State, and he hasn't won, you know, since he left.” – Joe on Kevin Durant [51:05]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 90s Nostalgia & Graphics Banter: [02:20–07:00]
• NBA Playoff Q&A: [12:40–15:45]
• Route Running & NBA Isolation Players: [16:11–18:34]
• Film Watching in NFL/NBA: [19:50–21:26]
• Mom vs GF Debate – Strength vs. Vulnerability: [22:50–26:29]
• Survival Skills Showdown: [27:49–39:16]
• Rare NBA Feats & Hall of Fame Debates: [39:46–43:10] & [50:44–52:50]
• Fast Food Picks: [45:41–47:11]
• Music Battles – Jay-Z/Nas, Mary J/Beyonce: [53:21–56:29]

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Closing Thoughts

Nightcap delivers a blend of sports debate, personal stories, and pop culture with the familial flair and authenticity fans have come to expect. This episode is steeped in humor (and plenty of roasting), but also moments of real talk—especially during the “Mom vs. Girlfriend” segment and the wild wilderness skills debate. The chemistry between Shannon, Ocho, ISO, and guest Antoine Walker is genuine and keeps topics—from NBA history to learning how to skin a raccoon—both funny and insightful.

Recommended for: Fans who love sports, but also the stories and personalities behind the athletes. If you missed it, this summary gives you all the flavor—minus the ads and intros!

Transcript

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You just understood.

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This is my best friend, Janet.

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Hey.

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A redacted amount of years later, we're

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Just a little bit bigger hips. This is a podcast.

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Why did you get hard seltzer instead of beer?

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Hey, Ocho Joe, they're saying today's graphic was the best one yet. What you thinking?

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Hell, yeah. Hey, hey, hey. The Graphic team, the best one. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. As as the R B got Graphic team showed they ass today.

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Hey, hey, hey.

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What took the cake was when I seen Twan ass back there in the back. Hey, Twan fit right in, don't it?

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Hey, hey.

[E]

Boy, that's a hard picture. Hey, man, if you grew up in the 90s, you already know what jodas sitting on.

[B]

Come on, bro.

[A]

Boy, look at. Boy, they got me sk to the mug. I'm on that. I'm on that Zic hard on.

[E]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That Z got you. It look like I'm on a little bit too, though.

[A]

But it's all.

[C]

Hey, listen, the gra. Hey, the Graphic team has had so many. So many tens when it comes to some of the graphics that they've done night by night, there's no way. Even as great as this is, there's no way I can say this is better because it been too many.

[E]

Good.

[A]

But, like, the last. But I mean, basically, since. I mean, for, like, the last five, six months, they've been on the history.

[E]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I think if you're a real music head like myself, you. I mean, you enjoy all of them, but this one here, like, I. I've been keeping up. I've been keeping. I've been tallying up on all the. On all these. Yeah, yeah. All these graphics, and I'm gonna try to get them printed off and, you know, do my little one, two with them. So. I appreciate y' all for this, man. It's hard. I ain't gonna lie. This hard. When I seen this, I was driving, I was like, oh, I almost lost control.

[A]

Hey, hey, we. We gotta win something. We gotta win an image just for graphics, man. We got to. We gotta win something just for graphics alone.

[E]

Hey, this is hard.

[A]

Even if you say I, which we know we have great content, but even if you say, well, I don't like the content, you can't say you can't find somebody that got better graphics. Nah, nah.

[E]

Hey, look, even. Even how the nightcap sign is where it would be, Jodecy, like, how they made it look just like that. Like, bro, it's the little small things that I see, that's like, man, that's hard, bro.

[A]

Featuring Ain't got nothing better to do with her time.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Hey.

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Featuring Antoine Walker. That's hard, bro.

[A]

That's homeless. That's hard.

[E]

That's hard. That's hard.

[A]

Yeah, this. This is. Yeah, but they. Hey, What?

[C]

Unc, you over there coughing?

[E]

Huh?

[A]

No, I'm good. I'm good.

[C]

Okay, hold on.

[A]

How Y' all gotta put a tattoo on me and everything? Damn.

[E]

They got you right, babe?

[A]

Hey, they got a tattoo, right? Goddamn. Ocho look like he's standing back there like he guarding the sale.

[E]

Hey, hey, really on real talk, though. Ocho look like he really, really fitted.

[A]

You look normal as.

[E]

I don't know what. Enough.

[A]

Yeah, look like we got, you know,

[E]

like, me and un a little shot of oic, but it's all.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Man, look at my collarboy. They got me looking like. Oo. Look at my. Look at my clavicle showing, man. Come on.

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Hey, needless to say, though.

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Funny.

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It's hard, bro. It's hard. This one. Hey, this is one of my favorites. I ain't gonna lie to y'.

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All.

[A]

Dang.

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Y' all see. Hey, hey. Y' all see how them. Boy, see how we got them boots on? Them boots with them, man, the 90s was fire, bro. Y' all can't say.

[C]

Yeah, it was. Hey, it was. It was. I mean, for those that weren't able to experience that time, whether it was the music, the culture, man, some of. Some of the things we were able to do, you know, just. Just Joe. Just being outside.

[E]

Joe.

[C]

Yeah, just being outside. Everybody ain't had their phones out, you know, when you went places. Yeah. I mean, it was different. It was different. It would never, ever be like, them.

[A]

Tim's hurt my knees. That's probably why my knees bad wearing them. Damn. Tim's.

[C]

Hey, what's the boost we had back then?

[A]

We used to have Eastland boots.

[E]

Used to have them. Look.

[C]

Yeah, Eastland. And the ones that they wear in the army, too.

[E]

We used to go, oh, the military boots.

[C]

Yeah, yeah,

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yeah, yeah.

[C]

Yep, yep.

[A]

I got. I don't know if I still got them, but I had a Versace pair like that. Did you? Yep, yep. But, man, I had Tim in every color. I had Tim from the butters to black to green to red. I had every color and had the overall. Had the overalls. The Shan John overalls to match, too.

[E]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

Joe, you might. Joe, you might not be young enough. Joe, did you. Hey, you had some MC Hammer?

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No, I had.

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No, I did the one that sang in.

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In the crotch area.

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You did. You had some Hey, I think. I think the company. I think it was called Z. Z Cavariti. I can't remember the. It was these. Something, man. And they. They had the same. The same, you know, the same silhouette and how they were made. But I had a few of them things.

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Yeah. Why I should type right? All through that joint.

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Hey, I know, I know. Y' all had them on. What you call them? What they call the parachute pants? Yeah, I had the parachute.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, boy, it was some days, boy. Hey, you. Hey, you. Hey, Joe, you remember Lottos? What about Etonics? Remember Etonics?

[A]

The black joints?

[C]

What about LA Gear?

[E]

Yeah, okay.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, man. What about Elise? Joe, you asked.

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Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

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Oh, them some good days.

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Yeah, I had.

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Hey, I had waves, was 30. Waves, was 34 hands and 42 jeans.

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Hey, we all wear the big ass pants.

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5.5x jackets, Man. It was the ti. It was the ties back there, man. All right, it's time for our final save of the evening. It's time for Q and A.

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Pants, man. I remember them things, boy.

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I'm a big fan of Nightcap. As you can see, I'm a Laker fan now.

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I'm no longer this.

[A]

I'm a Lake. Shannon Shaw, if you wouldn't have said what you said about Joel Embiid, we was up 3:1. You talk about Joel Embiid. Ocho and Joe said the man could do what he do. The went ham every game since then. After you said what you said. After you said what you said. Shannon Sharp, that went ham. So because of you, I gotta put this down. I gotta pick this up, baby. King James, we already know who the goat is. You know what it is, huh? But Shannon Shaw, you gotta.

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Come on, bro.

[A]

You the one woke and beat up.

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Yeah.

[A]

When he play, he hell. But we gonna see. He gonna definitely need to be game six. And what, six or seven. Joel Embiid to beat the Knicks in this series.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

[A]

All right, let's take a listen to the next one.

[C]

What's good? What's good, Ocho? What's good? I saw. Hey, I just wanted to ask you guys, since. Since bosses.

[A]

Oh.

[C]

Who you think is gonna come out the east now? You know, but you really know we got that Celtics fat going on right now, man. Oh, yeah.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Who you got, Joe? Who you got coming out the East? Oh, you got Detroit and the Cavs. You got the Knicks and the Sixers.

[E]

Man, I'm a. I'm a roll with Detroit, bro. I'm a roll with Detroit.

[A]

Oh, so you got the Knicks?

[C]

Yeah, I got the Knicks. I like him beat. I like him beat. And obviously, the conversation about last series really had nothing to do with them collectively. I mean, as. As a group, but as. As for the team to come out these. I got the Knicks. Matter of fact, not only are the Nick gonna go to the finals, right? The goddamn Statue of Liberty. She finna walk out that water, too.

[A]

She finna leave the island.

[C]

Island boy.

[E]

Who you Got.

[A]

I like. I like Detroit, but I don't know if they can beat the Knicks. I don't know. They could beat the Knicks, but flip a coin. I ain't got no coin, but I think. You know what, I rock with Bronson.

[E]

Okay.

[C]

Oh, now you.

[E]

Hey. He a prisoner of the moment, though. He got no choice.

[A]

I can either take Detroit. I'm hoping Detroit and the Knicks meet in the conference finals. That's what I'm hoping.

[E]

Okay,

[A]

take a listen to the third one. Yo, what up, big three? My fault. I'm on this in a bonnet. Y' all got enough hair for that, so y' all need to worry about it. Anyway, let me get your top three route runners on Kenocho. Straight route, running the ISO. Let me get your top three isolation. Just bag work players all the time.

[C]

All time.

[A]

See y'. All. What you got, Ocho?

[C]

Hey, when he say right run, he talk about all he want.

[E]

All the time.

[C]

All the time runs right now. Oh, shoot,

[A]

that's tough.

[C]

That's real tough, boy. I'm talking about route running. Like I don't need no help. Like, I don't need my officer coordinators help at all. Just line me up. I could just go. I'm going Marvin Harrison, 1. I'm going Marvin Harrison, 1. Simply for the fact he stayed on one side. He did.

[A]

He lined up on the right side

[C]

and he never moved. And he got it off the muscle. My number two. I'm gonna go with Jerry. I'm gonna go with Jerry because obviously he's an elite, elite route running.

[A]

Yeah, I don't think he gets enough credit either, Ocho.

[C]

Yeah. And my third would have to be. There's so many other. There's so many other options, so many other players. I can go with Isaac, Bruce, Tory, Devonte, but I'm going devonte third. I'm not even putting me in that. I'm not even putting in that group. I'm going devonte third.

[A]

Yeah, man, I'm surprised you ain't put a B in there.

[C]

Ah, that's why I say there's so many other options.

[A]

You talk about all time. It's a really, really good route runner.

[C]

Really, really good. Hey, hell, Julio, even at his size, being able to. Being able to. To sit down the way he does and get out and get. Oh, man, it's so many. But those three, that's my top three,

[A]

Joe, you bad guys.

[E]

As far as bag, where I'm talking about straight, like, haha. I'm talking about that.

[A]

That bag.

[E]

I'm Gonna go cold. I'm gonna go Kyrie. Kyrie got a mean bag.

[A]

Oh, Kyrie ever. And.

[E]

And I'm gonna go jh Bro. James Harden. James Harden in Houston. When he first got to Houston, his bag work was impeccable.

[C]

Hey, he went dummy dummy with it.

[A]

Hey, hard was. Hard was on some dookie with that stuff.

[C]

Hey, matter of fact, I'm glad you said that, Joe. Will you. Will you put Jamal Crawford when it come to bag work?

[E]

I'll put Jamal up there, bro. Jamal got a nice bag. Six. Six.

[C]

Yeah. Long.

[E]

Got a nice left to right crossover. Jamal got it, bro.

[C]

He.

[E]

He's right up there with them boys for sure.

[A]

And the final one, let's take a listen. You all right, Joe? Damn, boy. Hey, Joe, I ain't gonna lie to you. That game the other night, that was worse than belt to ass. The Knicks told y' all to go outside and pick out a switch. That's how bad that was, Joe. But, hey, you said you got the Thunder coming out the west now the spurs are playing the Wolves with no ant, man, and they probably gonna have to play OKC without Jalen Williams.

[C]

So.

[A]

Joe, it's never too late to come to the dark side, boy. Never too late to change your pick. Hey, and send that bread you owe Ocho. Send that to un.

[E]

Hey, I know he pissed off with that spurs hat on. I know he pissed off tonight. Hey, he can talk all this. He want to, but I know he pissed off with that SP had on tonight.

[A]

Filthy McNasty, Cambodia. Hell, somebody got to verify Oo Freo stories. Question for ISO and Tone. Did you watch much tape in the NBA as NFL players did? Thanks. Much love and still.

[E]

Yeah, how much tape?

[A]

How much tape did you watch, Joe?

[E]

I watched a lot of tape. I mean, hell, before, because not only am I watching the tape on the guys that I'm gonna be guarding, but I'm watching tape Uncle Ocho, and see how they guard guys who score the ball. How they gonna guard me? You know, do they double or do they.

[A]

Do they.

[E]

Do they send you baseline on defense? It's all a little small. My new things that you really have to lock into, especially when you're the guy, because you have to understand tendencies, you have to understand defensive assignments, and you have to understand the guy who you guarding the do's and don'ts, you know, don't give him no. Don't give him no dead threes. Don't give no. No spot up shots. You know, make everything tough. So, hey, you got to watch Film. Because what you want to do, you want to know the plays they gonna run for the guy who you guard, and you want to know them to the T. You want to know them better than hell. He know him.

[A]

You absolutely right. You got to, because you want to know what they want to. I mean, obviously, there is no perfect play. All you basically get on is. Is. Is. Is a percentage. This is what they do in this. Down in distance. This is what they do in this area of the field. This is what they. This is the coverage that they run in this formation.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

So you're like, okay, if they run this, this is what works against that. If they run that, this is what works against this. So it's a prop. But you need to know. Yeah, nothing worse than that. Going out there blind. And sometimes they're going to get you. They get into practice and they're going to throw a couple of coverages in that you didn't get to go over in that formation and that down in distance in that area of the field. And that's okay. Just don't turn the ball over. Just don't do something dumb.

[E]

Absolutely. Absolutely.

[A]

Brandon Martinez. Will Luca be back to support the Lakers tomorrow like ant did today? No, what you mean?

[E]

Are you saying play? Yeah, I think they were talking about just being on over there clapping or

[A]

you know it now.

[C]

He said like ant did today.

[E]

Nah, he ain't gonna play. Hell no, he ain't gonna play.

[A]

Laney Ray. What's up, Laney? What's up, guys? Haters gonna say it's fake, but the Wolves had the spurs number tonight. Unlimited minutes for Ant. Plus, no AO Wolves are back.

[E]

They did. They look good, man. They look good. I. I like, you know, all those guys accepting the challenge, obviously, you know, they hear the stuff that's being said, you know, about the Spurs. Supposed to be great. They. They. They could potentially win a title, man, them dudes ain't gonna lay down for them, man. They came in there through the whole kitchen singing them boy

[A]

youth. Peoria says Ocho tried to tell y' all Wimby soft like butter. Wolves and five. Oh, I don't know if I'm gonna go that far.

[C]

Yeah, I wouldn't call him soft, but they, they, they. They did have. They did have him out of rhythm tonight. You know, being physical, being aggressive, challenging me as much as they could, making everything difficult.

[A]

Sexy. Ed boy is a great question, guys. Would you rather have a woman who loves you enough to let you be weak in a moment or a woman who respects you? So much she won't let you. Ocho. You want. You want your woman to love you enough to let you be weak in a moment, or a woman that respects you so much she won't let you.

[C]

A woman that respect me so much that she won't let me? Because most of the time, those moments of weakness they use against you when they angry.

[E]

Well, it depends. It depends on what? What the. What the weak moment is.

[A]

Right.

[E]

I can't. I can't say that. I ain't gonna. I. I ain't vouching. Yeah. I'm saying, like, if. If you have a death in your family, hell, you. You know.

[C]

Oh, that's.

[A]

That's. That's.

[E]

Well, I'm just saying. I'm saying it's. It comes in many different forms and facets, Ocho. That's all I'm saying.

[C]

Yeah, I got you. I got you.

[A]

Nah, I want somebody. I want somebody that loves me enough to let me be weak in the moment.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Because when I'm not weak, I'm gonna need you to be strong. Because you say you're my backbone.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Backbones holds us up. So I don't want you to tell me something that you're not capable of being.

[E]

Hello.

[A]

Because I'm. I'm gonna do my absolute best to be strong. That's the way I was raised, Barney. Mary raised me.

[E]

Absolutely.

[A]

But there are going to be times that I'm not going to be able to. I'm not going to be able to stop. Hey. But I'm gonna need you to pick my chin up. I'm gonna need you to tell Michelle it's gonna be okay.

[E]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Sometimes. And. And, you know, everybody say they can be strong until it comes the time where you have to be strong.

[E]

Do you hear me, man?

[C]

Boy.

[A]

And you don't know what it's like to be weak until you. Hey. Until you have to have somebody help you, man.

[E]

Oh, my God.

[C]

Hey.

[A]

So for me. And I don't let. I don't let my guard down often to see. Let people see that side of me.

[C]

Yes, sir.

[A]

But if I. If I. If you're in my space and I let myself down.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

All I need to know if I fall, you gonna catch me

[C]

sometime. I already know every. Everybody. Everybody said they're gonna, you know, they gonna catch you when you're falling. Because goddamn normally. Normally, hey, that's performative. Because that's when everything is happy. Especially the honeymoon, you know, the honeymoon phase. You know, the dopamine ain't wore off. Yet, you know, everything is smiles and happy when there's no obstacles.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Ain't been to no problems, huh? No trial, no tribulations. Well, yeah, it's easy to say what I would do, but when the problems arise, will you still feel the same way?

[A]

Yeah, that. And that's the thing, man. Everybody says, and see, that's the thing. Or your people say, oh, this is what I would have done this. Until you face with a situation, you have no earthly idea what you would or wouldn't do.

[E]

Absolutely Right?

[A]

So, yeah, yeah. I want someone that. That loves me so much. She said, come cry on my shoulder. I had someone tell me, she said, shannon, you've been strong for everybody in your life. Who's been strong for you when you hurt, when you bit? Because you're never gonna be broken, Right? Who can you go to?

[E]

Right.

[A]

I understand that I have to be strong. I have to be strong for a lot of different reasons. Fit physically, mentally, emotionally, psychologically. I have to be strong for a lot of reasons. But there have been times, you don't know how, you don't know when, you don't know where, because, you know, granny used to always say, all the time, say, boy, everybody going, everybody, everybody. You either entering the storm, you're in the storm, or you're living the storm, you leave it.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

So, yeah, look, I. I've been strong and. But, you know, it ain't nothing like having that. Having that. Somebody just. Hey, it's okay. Yeah, it's okay. You down today, and that's why I'm here. But you're gonna be up tomorrow.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Because I'm not gonna let you stay down long enough to feel sorry for yourself. But it's okay, man. Good question. Sex ed boy. Dr. Frankie L. Bellaby. Doc, how you been? Hey, fam. What do you call a pig that knows karate?

[C]

Pork chop.

[A]

Pork chops. Big Mike one, Nixon six. Mr. Trying to figure it all out. Spider Man, Batman, Candyman, Ant Man. Wolves. And silver Farmer Boy. Ocho. ISO question. If you three competed against each other on Survivor, who would win? So you're all in tip top shape, 25 years old, much love from the bay. Absolutely. Shannon. Mofo sharp.

[E]

I know. I get you, boy. I get you, boy.

[A]

Joe. Hold on. Joe, did you hear what he said? Yeah, he said. He said, at 25.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

You cut up like some onion. What?

[C]

Hey, that cutting about like some onions ain't got nothing to do with surviving.

[A]

First of all, Ocho, you do realize I was just five years away from surviving. I was Just five years removed from no warning water, no indoor plumbing, eating raccoon. So I don't know what you're talking about. I was just fine. I was just five years removed from that ocho.

[C]

And we still talk about survivor. Yes, Survivor.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

I understand. I understand the conditions you come from. I understand the conditions and what you had to deal with growing up. But young brother, you're not surviving like I did out there in the wilderness where you got to fend for yourself, boy.

[A]

You drove the central heating and cooling.

[C]

Boy, I had a. I had a goddamn ceiling fan in my wall. What you talking about?

[A]

We ain't have no ceiling fan.

[C]

I mean. No, not ceiling fan. What you call the fan, Joe? In. In the wall from outside the little AC unit joint.

[A]

Oh, you had. Oh, you had a window ac.

[E]

It used to drip.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

How you know?

[E]

Yeah, we had one. I said.

[C]

I actually had. I had a little bucket right there.

[A]

We had them fans. We had them isolated. I still. Hey, that box for you. We call them. They call the box fan. You had the big square ones, and then you had the one that rotate.

[E]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

I still got. I got about five of them in my house. I ain't gonna be without one. I go to the hotel. Every hotel I go to, they got one. That's another thing Shelly already done call. Hey, he needs a humidity. He needs a fans. I don't need. I need it for the noise. I need noise. I gotta have noise. I can't. I can't have it quiet. I need to have no damn dog

[E]

going crazy out here.

[A]

Hey, what's.

[C]

Somebody on our property, Joe. Hey, get that pistol out.

[A]

What? Hey, first of all, Oo, you don't know how to skin no animal to eat it.

[C]

What? Hey, I know how to scale. I know how to skin.

[A]

How you skin.

[C]

Squirrel. I know how to Squirrel. Squirrel. I know how to skin fish.

[A]

You scale fish.

[C]

You got. You got to remember now. You got to remember. I used to. I used to hunt down here in Miami. Now I know I'm in. I know I'm in the inner city, but as a kid, I used to explore. You hear me and my grandma. You always to say, baby, if you can get the iguanas, now if you can get any one, you could get them. Squirrel keep them off my goddamn mangoes. I used to keep them boys out at my grandma mangoes. I have my slingshot. Sometimes it's a catching my skin them.

[E]

Yeah,

[A]

you know. Hey, you know how to dress an animal? So if we were. If we were to Kill a squirrel. We were to kill a raccoon or deer or something. Do you know how to dress it? You know how to kill?

[E]

Hell, no. I ain't gonna say a lot of y'.

[A]

All. No, I know he don't.

[C]

Hey, hey, Joe. Yeah, I do. It's on YouTube.

[A]

I ain't gotta go to YouTube.

[E]

You saying you can skin an animal up?

[A]

Yeah, I do. I can.

[C]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, Joe. I don't believe it. See, first of all, you got to show me.

[A]

If we're in the wilderness, we're not worried about trying to preserve the hide, especially of a raccoon. So we just go. Hey, we just split. Hey, we just split his back. You pull one side, I pull the other. Pull his ass out. We cut the legs, I bust him down the middle, take the guts out. We're gonna take him to the water. We're gonna clean them all up. Hopefully we got some pans out there. We just gonna stick a. Put a stick. Run a stick through it and put it across and put it across the open fire. If it's a deer, we're gonna hang him upside down. We're gonna cut him through the inside.

[E]

Come on. Hey, I'd like to see you do this.

[C]

Yeah. Hey, listen, he explained it like they explained it on YouTube, man. I ain't buying how you think. That's the same way they explain it to you. I need to see video footage. We need to go home. How about that?

[A]

Clean the squirrels. How you think we clean the raccoons? Until my brother. Now, my brother can case her. He could case a raccoon out. I don't know if he could still do it. That was 40 plus years ago, but, yo, yeah, for sure. How about we go in the hot scalding water, Joe? Yeah, turn him down. I'm talking about skull and stalling water so the hair come off real cool. And then we're gonna take that raving and make sure we got it all off him. Damn. Yeah. Yeah. Then we bust him down. We gonna keep the heart, we gonna keep the inside. You gonna get some chitlin, cuz. You know everything you eat, everything on the pig. You don't throw nothing away. You don't throw a damn thing away. You got the testes, you got the liver, you got all that.

[C]

Hey, eating everything. Well, who you telling

[A]

boys to love? Hey, when my mama would come down for, like, come down for special occasions or come down for Christmas, man, my grandfather gonna kill them. How have my uncle come. They kill them hogs.

[E]

Yeah. Good.

[A]

Eat Good or them come. Oh, Mary, you want to. You want a raccoon? You want. Yeah, boy. Boys go out there and get them and cuz see, the thing is, they be already undressed. Cuz all they wanted was to hide.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

So they back now they sell them now. I think they probably charge 20, 25, I don't know, 15, 20 say. But back then they would just give you away. Yeah, but you know what? They had to leave. They had to leave at least two feet on. Because people puppies and all kind of stuff. But we don't have to get through that. But yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Joe, back in the day Barney married you. Oh, you had to do all. Learn how to do all that clean fish. Yeah, that's why I hated boy. My grandma gave me a bee and my brother told me she gonna beat out. Cause we catching the fish and throwing them back. Cause we didn't want to clean them.

[E]

Yeah,

[A]

boy, Granny. Boy, Granny gritting them teeth because I didn't want to clean. Man, catch all them fish. You got to clean them.

[E]

I already know. I've seen. I haven't been there.

[A]

Yeah, we probably still got that fish scaler because you know, you got. You can do it with a knife. We used to do it with a knife. You got the fish scaler and then you know, you got the catfish, you got this, you got the skinners. See, Ocho don't know nothing about that. Joe.

[E]

I know you know he did talking.

[C]

Hey, I told you everything you could do. I could do uncle. I did that in the city, I'm telling you.

[A]

But we going fishing, we gonna see everybody. Cause everybody doing a lot of talking. Everybody talking about they can do this.

[C]

Hey, scaling the fish is easy. Let's get out there in them woods, man. Hey, let's hunt some deal. Hey, let's. Let's have some water buffalo.

[A]

You don't know how to handle the gun. Who don't, Ocho?

[C]

Why bring that thing from the hip, boy? Stop playing me.

[E]

That's the problem.

[A]

Why are you taking a handgun in the woods with a switch?

[E]

What you use?

[A]

What we hunting. And I tell you what, we use it. You hunting quail, you use a 12 gauge. You need bird shot. What else you hunting? You use a 30, 30. 36. You can use a 12 gave. You hunt deer. I mean, it all depends on what season it is. Sometimes you have to use a bowl. But I, I ain't never shot a bow, but I shot a 12 gauge. I shot a 30, 30, 30. 06. Well, you need a 308, 243. What you do?

[E]

I. I can do my damage with a bow. You give me a bow. I can.

[D]

I can.

[E]

I can do my damage with that.

[A]

You ever shot a bow? Yeah.

[E]

Okay.

[C]

Hey, you. Are you the Cub Scout, too? You know, we had to take both lessons. What cup. Hey, Scouts on them. What?

[A]

I'm not saying I'm gonna go fishing with Ocho, but anything with no firearm, he not gonna shoot me in the ass like Dick Cheney did.

[C]

I ain't gonna shoot you because you

[A]

don't know how to. Joe, he don't know how to carry a gun. He talking about he got the gun like he in the military, all up on his shoulder. He don't know if he got. If. If he in the front. He got it down to the ground. He got it a side.

[C]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. I always. I always got my gun at. At six o', clock, baby. You ain't got to worry about nothing. I already got that boy at six o', clock, bro. You good. Hey, I got you hear me? Hey, let me tell you something. Hey, I ain't saying I'm Private Ryan.

[A]

What you saying? But you know, Ocho.

[C]

Okay. Yeah.

[A]

If you in the front, you like this.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Or you could have. You could carry it like this.

[C]

No, no, no, no. Put that thing down.

[A]

I can't carry this infant. You in the back. That's why I'm not messing with you, because you gonna carry yours and you gonna be in the back and shoot somebody in the ass.

[C]

You didn't hit me, did you? I say cat, point that thing down at 6 or 7 o'. Clock. Now, you. You carrying it wrong. Now, let me teach you something.

[A]

The front per. Let me ask you a question. How you gonna shoot something? You come up on a quail and you got. And you got it down here, you got to have it. Damn. They're ready to shoot.

[C]

Oh, you don't. Well, you don't know how to hunt. What kind of hunter are you?

[A]

I just say we hunt.

[C]

You hunt? Hey, hey, you. You. You hunt like Elmer Fud, huh? That ain't the way I hunt.

[A]

How you hunt?

[C]

You got. You got your gun, and you got your gun.

[A]

You hunt. Two legged hunt. You two legged? Yeah, you driving a vehicle.

[C]

That's bad. Here, Joe.

[A]

I'll let you go, Joe. Y', all. You. You go. You and Joe go. Go out there hunt.

[E]

Ah, no, no, no. We all got to be together. This. We.

[A]

Oh, no. Yeah. That man ain't never had a shotgun. He ain't never carried a shotgun. He ain't never shot a shotgun. He ain't never shot a high powered rifle.

[C]

Hey, Unc, you see you.

[A]

I'm.

[C]

I'm glad you viewed me like that. And I'm glad you viewed me in that light. You hear me? I'm. I'm glad. I'm glad, but that's. That's not.

[E]

We're gonna put some blanks in his gun, bro.

[A]

Okay?

[E]

Give him some blank. Just see how they do on his first couple shots. Just see how he do.

[C]

Hey, y' all talk. Y' all talk about guns. I don't even need nothing, huh? Just put me out there, put me some. Put me some cleese on and tell me what we going to hunt.

[A]

No, I do the joke. He coming out there with cologne he got on red. The animals smelling him. They see him. He don't stay down with it.

[C]

Hey, hey, I don't need to be down. I'm gonna be upwind. Just douse me with some of that. Some of that. That. That urine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Put. Put that thing on me. What? I'm gonna have him fatigue.

[A]

We give a BB gun. Joe. Let me shoot some Robins or some. Some Blue Jays or something.

[C]

I'm ready, boy.

[A]

We. We can't get. We can't give up where he can hurt himself, Right? Right, brother Franklin, what's up? O Show for the dunk ISO Gonna see in slow motion. And the saxophone from the boys in the hood gonna be playing when he gets that knee to the face.

[C]

Hey, boy, you right about that, man.

[E]

Please.

[C]

You right about that, bro. Yeah, Joe.

[B]

Boo.

[A]

And capitalize. Say, what's up, y'? All? Philly losing by almost 40 is crazy. Do y' all also believe Wimby will be the fifth player to ever have a quadruple double?

[E]

Yeah, I think he. I think he can definitely get that quadruple double. I mean. Cause the way he blocks shots, that is so easy, man. I'm like, I know he didn't get the triple double, huh?

[A]

I'm trying to think. Nate thurman, Akeem Elijah 1, David Robinson and Alvin Robinson. I think those are only. They're the only four off the top of my head that I can remember. Nate Thurman was the first. Elijah one got it. And they took. One. They took. I think it took a rebound or a block away from him, and he came back two games later and got it again.

[E]

Damn. Yeah. Hey, you know what? Cause he passed. Wimby passes well enough to get 10 assists.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

And obviously he can score a rebound and then, hell, the way he blocks shots. Yeah, yeah. He gonna be in there. He gonna get one. He might get one this series.

[A]

He might, you know, Tim Duncan, like they got one against what you call him against the Nets. He had a 20, 20, 10, eight game.

[E]

Oh, really?

[A]

Yeah, against the Nets. 20 points, 10 rebounds. I think he had either 10 assists or 10 blocks and eight something.

[E]

Damn.

[A]

He had 21, 20, 10 and 8. But look at, look up the quadruple doubles. I think it was. I think Nate Thurman was the first one to do it. And then Alvin Robertson did it. Alvin Robertson did it with steals, obviously. Elijah Juan and. And David Robinson did it with blocks and assist. Oh, but you know what, Joe? You know what people gonna say? What, you googled it? How am I gonna google it? I don't know what people gonna ask me. 2 San Antonio spurs did it. Albert Robinson was a damn good defender.

[E]

He was. He was a hell of one.

[A]

He's damn good. What do y' all think? What do you rank Jason Whitten all time for tight ends? As a Cowboy fan, I wouldn't take him over Gonzo, Gronk, Gates, Kelsey to name a few. He was damn good a little number of years. He was very, very durable. Not, not flashy. Nope. He was like a. He'll pick up truck.

[E]

Just got it done.

[A]

Just got it done.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

He pickup truck.

[C]

Yeah. I mean his style of play wasn't aesthetically pleasing, which is why he doesn't you name think all the people he just. He put in front of him, all of their game style was. It was, it was. It was good to look at. It's awesome to look at.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

Is he up for the hall of fame this year? No, he did. Oh, is he next year Whitting. When is he up for the hall of Fame? I mean him and hell, Hillman, Gonzo. Hell, I think they ain't missed. I think Gonzo missed one game. But Kelsey hadn't missed a whole lot of games. He was eligible this year. He did. He didn't make it. Okay. Oo. I'm sorry. You usually say some BS when you're talking about basketball, even stressing unk out, but you've been spitting facts lately. Yeah, yeah.

[E]

Hey, he getting better.

[C]

Hey, I'm. I'm telling you, man. Give me, give me, give me. Hey, hey. I'm gonna take me a crash course, right? And when I come back next year and it's time for basketball season and I'm on here sounding like goddamn 10 legler goddamn doors. Burke and George Sedano and Stephen A.

[E]

And.

[C]

And some of them boys. I. Y'. All. Hey, listen, I'm telling you, I'm gonna start taking over basketball segments. I'm get there now, especially. Especially. Hey, Joe, this is what. I'm gonna kill him. So when I start learning. Learning the terminology.

[E]

Yeah, okay.

[C]

Yeah, you know, I started talking about the terminology. Hey, yeah. Hey, when I started talking like that, huh?

[A]

They put it, you know, I've arrived. Okay.

[C]

Hey, you know, I've arrived.

[A]

Hey, he showed. He lagged. He haged.

[E]

Yeah, yeah, well, I get.

[C]

Hey, I get to that point, Joe. Like, I could talk soccer. Hey, hey, what's it right.

[A]

They ain't gonna be able to keep

[E]

you off TV in the back.

[C]

Hey, well, who you.

[E]

Who you telling,

[B]

man?

[A]

Go Birds. How in the hell is this just one game and they beat. They beat Atlanta by 50, beat the Sixers by 30. Plus, it ain't our fault they went seven games. Preach. Ocho. Clearly, he's a.

[E]

Okay.

[A]

Knicks fan.

[E]

Right, Right?

[C]

Oh, I'm a Heat fan.

[E]

No, he talking about the right now.

[A]

Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Pappy Ray, your hip gonna give out in that batting cage if you guys. No way you can hit better percentage than Ocho. I'll bet anything on that. My hip good. Is the knee.

[C]

Hey, the fact that. Hey. The fact that y' all think y' all could.

[A]

Y'.

[C]

All. The fact that y' all can. Think y' all can outdo a five tool in high school. That. Hey, that.

[A]

That.

[C]

That's.

[E]

Yeah, well, I know.

[A]

I got you a shovel, a rake, a lawnmower, weeder. Those are the tools he talk about, Joe. I know. Power Steeler, base field.

[E]

Oh, you pick. You pick that front leg up when you get ready to swing.

[C]

Hey, Joe, I'm.

[A]

I'm.

[C]

I ain't gonna bring it up too high. Just. Just a little bit to give me

[A]

a little leverage, you know, when I'm

[C]

falling, when I'm coming forward with it. That's. Yeah. Hey, hey, Joe, I'm gonna come to balance with that thing and let go now, okay? It's all in the hips.

[A]

Hey, I saw. He says I. So that game six was worth bta. The Knicks hold. The Hawks told the horse to go outside and pick a switch.

[E]

It was. It was bad, man. Hey, look, I ain't no grape of grown. I'm still pissed off behind that. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Mashburg said you could only eat three fast food restaurants forever. What y' all picking?

[E]

Give me a.

[C]

And y' all already know the answer to that.

[E]

You consider Waffle House fast?

[A]

Hell, yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

I'm at the Waffle House.

[C]

Where you think I'm going when we finish the night?

[E]

Going Waffle House, man. Boy, I'm going Waffle House.

[A]

I don't eat fast food like that.

[C]

I'm going, hey, McDonald's waffles and.

[A]

Okay, yeah, okay. See, give me IHOP. I'll take

[C]

IHOP. That's my. That's my morning.

[A]

I'll take IHOP. Raising canes. Oh. Oh, boy. You said chick fil A. Yeah.

[E]

Hey, hey. See, I'm going.

[A]

I'm going Waffle House.

[E]

Cause I. I got to get that.

[A]

That.

[E]

That pecan waffle, baby. That pecan waffle with them six eggs. Sc.

[A]

Damn. Six.

[E]

I need that protein, huh? I need that protein, baby.

[A]

Damn.

[E]

Yeah. I get six eggs. Yeah.

[A]

Nah, bro. I can do about two, three. Any more than that, it ain't gonna be fun. Ain't gonna be fun in the room. That's too much sulfur for me, man. Hey, hey. They say, hey, Mr. Sharp, we brought you a couple extra eggs. I don't know what. They gonna be right there on that plate when you come pick up this plate at this room.

[E]

Hey, hey, hey, hey.

[A]

Outside the door.

[E]

Hey, hey. And give me. And give me a few. Give me a few slices of that crispy swine, that bacon. I want mine.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Hey, I like that. Christmas.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, but I'm saying. You know what I'm saying? But when we go on that little. We go on our little excursion, you know, we gonna be, you know, hit the. You know, hit a couple of places, you know?

[E]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

Hey, let me know. I'm ready.

[A]

There you go. You always ready to do something.

[C]

Hey, hey, listen, I'm ready. Hey, a time will be had.

[A]

And no cell phone.

[E]

All right.

[A]

Bet.

[C]

Oh, I don't need. I don't need that. Hey, where we going? I don't need. No. I know you.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

You know,

[A]

Up. You know, we out here in the Caribbean. You know what I'm saying? Give it up. Our local location.

[C]

Hey, don't nobody need to know. Yeah, right.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Jeremy Scott. As a lifelong Falcon fan, the 28. 3 loss was the worst loss I've ever witnessed. You couldn't talk to me about nothing for at least a week. Is there a loss either as a fan or as a player that haunts y' all still?

[E]

I can't. I. I ain't got one that stands out like that. Like that loss the other day?

[A]

No. Hell, no, man.

[C]

I was so numb to losing. Boy, don't nothing haunt me. I mean, no, I mean, I'm just.

[A]

Man, for me. Jacksonville lost 96, losing the division round of the playoff. That one. As a fan.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

2 When old boy from Villanova hit that shot against North Carolina. Yeah, that one. And probably. Game three when KD hit that three in Cleveland.

[E]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Because they had.

[E]

They had.

[A]

They had led the whole game.

[E]

They did, bro.

[A]

Miss Lake show what it do. Nightcap. Love your chemistry. Please wish my friend Wiz PAM A happy 20th anniversary. Nightcap always in the mix. Lakers in six wins. Pam, happy 20th anniversary. Boy, 20 years to know someone, relearn somebody, to fall in love with somebody to do that for 20 years. Congratulations. And to 20 more.

[E]

Yes, sir, LeBron James.

[A]

I'm trying to figure out how people can call women the greatest defensive player performance ever in a playoff with Russell. Average 16, 24, 6 and 6 and 13 games in games five through seven in the 68 finals.

[E]

Wow. Damn, man.

[A]

Hey, what they said Will had a. What was that? He had 30 something, 30 something points, 20 rebounds, 24 blocks. Damn, can assist. But, you know, they didn't. I mean, think about it. They didn't keep. They didn't keep stats, they didn't keep block shots. Block shots didn't become official stat to like 73, 74. So up until then, they ain't call it. Brandon Crow. KD is ringless without Curry. For a great player.

[E]

He.

[A]

And as he is, he jumps ships too much. If he stays with OKC in 17, they get over the hump. He can't be the number one.

[E]

If he stay with okc, I think. I think they definitely win a. A chip, but, I mean, they always gonna hold that over his head, bro.

[A]

For sure.

[E]

You know, he only won when he played with Golden State, and he hasn't won, you know, since he left. Yeah, and they won one when he left.

[A]

Yes, Fellas, I hope all is well. My question is for King ISO J Crawford. J crossover is my second favorite player in NBA history. With that being said, what was it like watching this bag and worth the work ethic up close? Love the show, fellas.

[E]

Thanks, man. Jamal, you know, he played here in Atlanta with me for two years, and he was just a natural. Hooper, bro, I mean, I'm gonna be honest with you. Like, I. I seen Jamal work. I mean, he came to practice every day, put in the work, but he. He all the shots and crazy shots that y' all see him shooting. Like, bro, he work on that stuff. And in Practice. He was the same way. Like, he. He was a workaholic. He loved working on his game. Hell of a player.

[A]

Yeah, I saw him. I think I saw him at that. At that Ritz cart right there on the corner of Peachtree. Done with it and Peachtree Road.

[E]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

He had a red. He had a red Rolls Royce.

[E]

Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[A]

I started. I started to pull up on the get up.

[C]

Hey, you know what my favorite move is from. From Jamal. You know how and when people do crossovers, you know how they do it from the front right to left or left to right? When he used to do from the back, though any come back with it, I'm like, man, that. Well, that.

[A]

That.

[C]

Man, that. That's so. That's so.

[A]

And he'd be hopping with it.

[C]

And he hopped with it. Yeah, he hopped with it. Man, that. That dope is.

[A]

Mike. Mike. What up, Big Three? Since y' all discussed teams having to make tough money decision after winning, would you want to want the NBA or the NFL to ever take away the salary cap like baseball? I sure as hell would. Hell, yeah. NFL.

[E]

The NBA used to. Didn't have no salary cap.

[A]

They did not used to come in

[E]

with a bag getting 60, 70 million.

[A]

Big dog. I think big dog. Glenn Robinson was the last one that got that.

[E]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Oh, Slim. I need y' all opinion. Jay Z or Nas? Mary J or Beyonce?

[E]

There you go.

[A]

Mary J and Beyonce are like two. They like, totally told two different people. At least. Jay Z and Nas, okay, you got rap, but Beyonce and beyond and Mary J ain't even. That's not even a comparable comparison.

[C]

No. Who you got, Jay Z?

[E]

I got. I got Jigger, bro.

[A]

Who you got, Ocho?

[C]

Damn. I'm. I'm gonna go with Nas, bro.

[A]

Yeah, I think I'm gonna have to go with nothing.

[C]

I like. I like both. I like both, but I'm gonna just go with Nas.

[E]

This cutting up.

[C]

Who that?

[A]

Hey, you going to the concert? You going to see HOV at. What is it, Yankee Stadium?

[C]

That's in July? You going?

[E]

Nah, I ain't going to that.

[A]

No.

[C]

Hell no,

[A]

Man. Beyonce. You got to give me somebody that's comparable to Mary J or give me somebody comparable to Beyonce, Right?

[C]

Well, who the hell is comparable to Beyonce?

[A]

But I'm just saying. Okay, let's just say, okay, if you say ain't nobody. I'm trying. I'm trying to think in today's time. I mean, but ain't nobody. Well, hell, I mean, if you say Mary J, Mary J, is more comparable to a Fantasia or to a Jennifer Hudson or something like that to say, Jasmine Sullivan.

[E]

They can. She could go, boy, who that?

[A]

Mary J. Oh, yeah, for sure.

[C]

Oh, yeah, she out here.

[A]

She got a residency out here. Does she?

[E]

Yeah, she performing.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

About to come check Mary out now.

[A]

No, they need to have some old school band. They need to have like Earth, Wind and Fire, Ohio play or stuff like that. Now, now we talk gay Atlantic star, something like that. Stylistics.

[C]

Yeah, I'd be there. I'd be the first one in line.

[A]

Would you say like Janet Jackson and Beyonce is comparable or Rihanna and Beyonce?

[E]

Yeah, probably.

[A]

I think because they do comparable music. I don't. I mean,

[C]

hey, well, that, that's tough, boy. It's iffy, though. It's iffy. When you get there, you get to comparing Beyonce to any goddamn body, boy.

[A]

Well, I think the thing like, like, like Stephanie Mills and Shaka, Patti LaBelle, Aretha.

[C]

Right.

[A]

But I don't know, I mean, I've never been to a Mary J. A Mary J concert. I've been to Beyonce, so I got to take Beyonce. I guess I'm gonna have to do like you, Joe. I'm gonna have to slide and check her out.

[E]

Yeah, she put on a show now.

[A]

That concludes this episode of Nightcap. We want to thank you guys for joining us. Want to thank our special guest, Antoine Walker for joining us. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite uncle. There's my partner and co host, the Liberty City legend, the Bingo Ring of fame honoree, a former pro bowler and an all pro. That is Chad Ochocinko Johnson and the third member of the big three, a seven time NBA all star from the Atlanta Hawks, that is ISO, Joe Johnson. We want to thank our very special guest, Antoine Walker for joining us and discussing the games. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed, wherever you get your podcast from. We want to thank each and every one of you for your support because none of this happens without you. So again, thank you for joining us tonight. Thank you for staying up late with us, and thank you for staying throughout the entirety of it. We greatly, greatly appreciate your support. Again, thank you. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shade by Laportier, head over to laportierconjac.com to purchase you a bottle if it's currently unavailable in a state or city near you. It is a premium BSOP cognac. It's smooth, it's great tasting it's the best tasting smoothest VSOP cognac on the market but it drinks like an xo. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. The Minnesota Wolf Timber Wolf snatch home court with thanks to a 104102 victory. They held Wimby to five points two and eight shooting over three and one for two of free throw attempts. Even though he had a historic night where he had a triple double with 12 block shots it was not enough. Ant man coming back giving them 25 minutes scored 18 points got them over the hump as they win 104 to 102 and the New York Knicks throttle the 76 is 137 to 98. Jalen Brunson got it going and everybody else came along with him. OG had 18, Cat had 17, Mikhail Bridges had 17 as they got lead and they did not look back. So again thank you guys for joining us. We'll see you tomorrow night.

[E]

I'm up.

[A]

He's Ocho, he's ISO.

[D]

Peace.