Nightcap Hour 3: Pregame Meals + NFL Schedule Release + Graphics Team Generational Run +

Summary

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Nightcap Hour 3: Pregame Meals, NFL Schedule Reactions & Generational Graphics — May 14, 2026

Hosts: Shannon Sharpe (“Unc”), Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson (“Ocho”), ISO Joe Johnson
Episode Focus: The guys field candid Q&A on pregame meals and rituals, react to the NFL schedule release, reminisce about locker room snacks, debate NBA legacies, and praise their in-house graphics team’s “generational run.” Signature humor, real athlete insight, and easy rapport set the tone.

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Episode Theme: Nighttime Sports Talk with Unfiltered Athlete Perspectives

This episode of Nightcap draws on the hosts’ pro sports experience for fun, behind-the-scenes talk answering fan questions live. The trio dives into memorable pregame meals and routines, reacts to NFL and NBA headlines, and delivers their classic back-and-forth on all-time greatness—with lots of playful roasting, hair jokes, and shoutouts to their growing Nightcap community.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Pregame Meals & Rituals (03:16–11:53)

• Fan Question: “What teammate had the most interesting pre/post-game ritual?”
  • Ochocinco: “I didn’t have any pre or post-game rituals...and none of my teammates had anything worth writing home about.” (03:54)
• Pregame Eating Habits:
  • Ocho always played on an empty stomach: “I could never have nothing on my stomach before I played. I always wanted an empty stomach.” (04:27)
  • Joe and ISO had strict meal timing routines—never eating too close to kickoff. If it was a 2pm game, Joe ate around 10am and nothing more until after the final whistle.
• Locker Room Snacks & College Days:
  • Joe’s college team got “three-piece chicken box with a honey bun and a Coca Cola” after games (05:53), prompting nostalgia for honey buns, microwave tips, and snack “capers”—“I used to steal guys’ honey buns.” (06:55)
  • The trio shares snack tales—Wendy’s bacon double cheeseburgers, McDonald’s meals, Sunbeam honey buns, zebra cakes, and hotcakes with sausage.
  • ISO Joe: “I swore by it. That was the reason I never got hurt.” (08:53)
  • Discussion on fasted cardio: “That’s the best way to do cardio, though, when you trying to lose a little fat.” (06:44)

2. Snack Power Rankings (11:18–18:48)

• The crew riffs on the greatness of various snack cakes:
  • Ocho likes Sunbeam honey buns; Joe is “a sucker for a good Cinnabon” (16:55)
  • ISO Joe: “Them big Texas cinnamon rolls—with the raisins, ten seconds in the microwave.” (17:24)
  • Spin wheels, pecan rolls, and legendary three-pound cinnamon rolls from San Antonio’s Lulu’s get nostalgic mentions.
• Friendly banter about snack inflation—“Honey buns used to be 25 cents, now they $4.” (10:19)

3. Graphics Team’s “Generational Run” (42:03–42:48, 46:22–46:39)

• The crew shouts out Nightcap’s graphics team for top-notch episode promos and visual content.
  • Joe: “The graphics team on an historical run. Y’all need a raise.” (42:03, 46:22)
  • Jokes about how to finance that raise amidst ad breaks and sponsorships.

4. NFL & NBA Schedule/Trade Talk (31:02–35:39)

• NFL:
  • Fan Q: With new players joining NE, will Patriots-Seahawks opener be more competitive than the Super Bowl?
    • ISO Joe: “Hell no! Teams not even into their own just yet.” (31:16)
    • Joe: “It’s gonna take you a couple weeks to get to real football shape.” (31:24)
• NBA:
  • Pistons’ need for another scorer, and how it’s tough to advance deep in the playoffs: “If your defense laps, man, it’s so hard for you to get buckets.” (32:13)
  • Player development credit to trainers (e.g., Phil Handy’s work with Austin Reaves) (33:15–33:23)

5. NBA GOAT Debates & Legacy Talk (36:01–52:23)

• Classic Sports Goat Debates:
  • Joe calls out fans’ tendency to debate Kobe, Jordan, and LeBron by tearing others down:
    • “You can say Kobe the goat without trying to dump on LeBron…You want to say Jordan’s the goat? Fine. Magic, Kareem, Bird…We can have a healthy discussion without being dismissive.” (36:03–37:07)
  • Ongoing debate is compared to politics: “It’s a back and forth that will never end.” (36:54)
• Title Counting Nonsense:
  • Joe pushes back on measuring greatness by only championships:
    • “I’m looking at totality—points scored, All-NBA, Finals MVPs…If it’s just championships, all the Celtics should be on the top-10.” (39:39)
• Jordan vs. LeBron and Narratives:
  • Joe rants on “narrative-changing” after players retire: “Most lists had Kobe 9 through 12 on the all-time list before he died, then he died and magically he started moving up.” (52:00)
  • Comparing late-career LeBron to Jordan’s Wizards years: “Are we really having this discussion?” (41:05)
  • Ocho and ISO: “Gotta be able to enjoy them all.” (52:20)

6. Light-Hearted Roasting: Hairlines, Units, and Team Banter (23:19–28:00)

• Contests for “most entertaining” host, jabs about intro skills and “Club ISO.”
• Long comedic exchange accuses Ocho of wearing hair "units," dyeing, and having a “Brillo patch.”
  • Chad Ocho: “I got hair like Jesus. Jesus had hair like wool. This what this is.” (25:34)
  • Jokes about Amazon units and Atlanta’s “man unit” specialists.
• Playful threats about a cage match and debts owed:
  • “I want a box, I want to do MMA, I want to kick you in your nose.” (ISO Joe, 23:49)
  • “You ain’t getting that 500.” – Ocho on playful debts (24:15)

7. Shoutouts, Birthdays & Listener Interaction (54:44–61:29)

• Multiple fan requests for birthday wishes and shoutouts are delivered with warmth.
  • “Sunshine follows rain. No matter how dark it may be, light will eventually come out.” (Joe to Marquita, 58:06)
• Memorable quips about relationships and teamwork:
  • “You water her, she water you, and you both grow. That’s how it’s supposed to be.” (Joe to Z, 59:53)

8. Authenticity, Criticism, and Podcasting Insights (61:46–65:47)

• The hosts reflect on why fans connect with podcasts—feeling there are “no bosses,” just real talk.
  • “What you see with Ocho, that’s what he allows you to see…This is what I allow you to see. You really…don’t know someone unless you’re there with them every day.” (63:49)
• Importance of being authentic—knowing not everyone will like what you have to say.
• ISO Joe: “I share every goddamn thing, so ain’t nothing to surprise.” (65:04)
• “Hate me for what I am, but don’t love me for what I’m not. I can live with that.” (Joe, 63:49)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Damn, if I look at something wrong and don’t work out…” (Ocho on fast metabolism, 09:25)
• “I want them Sunbeam. Give me Sunbeam.” (Joe, on honey buns, 11:49)
• “Roger Goodell bullying these other sports with the schedule acting like Mufasa from Lion King—everything the light touches is ours.” (Joe, 15:46)
• “You want to say Kobe the goat—that’s fine…But the problem is y’all try to minimize what LeBron has done.” (Joe, 37:07)
• “It’s a back and forth that will never end…It’s damn near like politics.” (ISO Joe, 36:54)
• “You couldn’t gain no weight neither? I was so little, Joe, man, I was a little string bean.” (ISO Joe, 09:17)
• “Hey, shoutout to my barber Mario…they think I got dye in my head.” (Ocho, 27:29)
• “You water her, she water you, and you both grow. That’s how it’s supposed to be.” (Joe, 59:53)
• “When you’re having a good time, time flies, fellas.” (Ocho, 61:50)
• “Hate me for what I am, but don’t love me for what I’m not.” (Joe, 63:49)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Pregame Meals & Rituals: 03:16–11:53
• Snacks and Honey Bun Nostalgia: 11:18–18:48
• NFL/NBA Schedule Reactions: 31:02–35:39
• GOAT Debates & NBA Legacies: 36:01–52:23
• Hair, Roasting & Lighthearted Banter: 23:19–28:00
• Listener Shoutouts & Community Talk: 54:44–61:29
• Podcasting Insights & Authenticity: 61:46–65:47

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Summary

The Nightcap crew delivers a fun, fast-paced, and personal hour, answering questions about sports rituals, life on the road, and what greatness really means in today’s media culture. There’s warmth in their banter, real insight from life as pro athletes, and a genuine appreciation for their audience and behind-the-scenes team. Debates about the NBA’s all-time greats sit right alongside arguments over the perfect honey bun or cinnamon roll. Above all, this episode captures Nightcap’s unique blend of honesty, hilarity, and brotherly chemistry.

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Transcript

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[Joe Johnson]

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What he on there Zimp it.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, he on there.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

On that zim. Huh.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, don't jinx the Raven. All right, it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Real Chris Moore shout out to ISO. My birthday is 6:28 a day before you what teammate had the most interesting pre opposed game ritual? Did you have any post pre game rituals? That's for you. ISO.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Did I have any post pre game rituals? I didn't, I didn't, I didn't have no post pre game rituals. Any guys that I played with that had some that stood out, none that I can really remember that was like, you know, worth writing home about to be honest with you.

[Joe Johnson]

I just did the same thing, ate the same. Say did you eat the same thing pregame or did you change up?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Well I always wanted to be light so I never, I couldn't like I would see guys eat like an hour before the game sitting in their lockers. I could never be one of them.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I could never have nothing on my stomach before I played. I always, you know, I always wanted an empty stomach.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah but see you matter thing. I mean we played at 2 o' clock Joe. I would eat my meal. I'm eating it like 10.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. And you won't eat no more.

[Joe Johnson]

No more until after the game.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. So if we had a 7 o' clock game, I'm probably eating after shoot around so I'm probably eating about 12:31 o' clock and then I take me a nice little nap and that's a wrap.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah, I don't need, I don't need no more after that after the game and I'll be Starving, too.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Me neither.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Me, I couldn't have nothing on my stomach. I don't know how guys did that, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

Now, I had. I mean, I would get some pasta at night. I get that part. You know, everybody got that. That's that. Yeah. You know, we gotta have. They gotta have that pasta.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Pasta and ice cream. Oh, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, after the game now I'm gonna pig out. I'm gonna have me a nice little fat meal after the game.

[Joe Johnson]

What you eating?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm probably gonna go. I'll probably give me a steak or some. Some good chicken, fish. I'm gonna eat a good meal after.

[Joe Johnson]

You eat fried chicken after the game, Joe?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It depends on, you know, when you're on the road, whatever they got up in there, you got, you know, you got to eat. It may not be nothing you want. Like, they may have pizza in there. I'm like, damn, I want no damn pizza. But I'm gonna eat me a few. I'm gonna eat me a few slices,

[Joe Johnson]

but the whole yo, with her,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

man. What? Cause, hey, you get on that bus to get to that hotel, that stomach go to growling.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. In college, Ocho, did y' all like what they give y' all after the game? They give y'. All. Cause see, they used to give us chicken boxes after the game. We got a three piece chicken box with a honey bun and. And a Coca Cola.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, no, no.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That's so funny. That's a great question. I really. I really can't remember. Especially got to think. I was only at Oregon State that one year in that 2000, 2000 season. But Dennis Erickson, he took care of us. He took care of us. He took care of us. I really can't remember what we had during that time, though.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I'm like, man, but no, I. I can. I can do cardio. I can't lift on an empty stomach. I get lightheaded.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

With cardio, because I do fastest cardio. I don't eat. You know, I go like 12, 15 hours before I eat my next meal.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's the best way to do cardio, though, when you try and lose a little fat. Yeah, yeah. A lot of people don't know that you do that fasted cardio on the empty stomach.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, but that's what we used to

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

get their metabolism jumping.

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't gonna tell nobody, but I used to steal guys honey buns out there, and I have me three pieces of chicken, and I love them honey buns back, man. You know, Joe, man, You know honey buns $4 now.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes. Hey, hey, hey. You know, you get that honey bun, you pop and you bust that pack open a little bit, you throw that thing.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Microwave, microwave.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Eight to nine seconds.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, my, my microwave.

[Joe Johnson]

Eleven.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I got the cheap microwave, so I need. You gotta add two seconds.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay, Boy, but it wasn't no more than about eight. I ain't about nine, ten seconds. Ojo, I'm talking about that thing come out there.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Perfect.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, boy. Hey, honey buns and vinyl sausages, boy. Old cold Coca Cola. Yeah, boy, that's a meal, though.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, Ocho. When I was playing in Phoenix, I was 22, 23, bro. I'm driving to the game, eating a honey bun. Like I could eat like. That's because I ain't know no better. You know what I mean? Like, I ain't. I was young. I ain't know no better. Like, man, let me give me a little honey bun before I go in here. Hell, as I got older, boy, you can't eat like that no more.

[Joe Johnson]

But hey, when I first. My first year in Denver, every meal I ate was fast food. It was either Dairy Queen, McDonald's, Burger King, Wendy's. Every meal, 8% body fat. I be, hey, I be them, them French toast sticks. Sausage.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I run to the store, I get Wendy's, I get me a. A bacon double cheeseburger. Bacon bacon double cheeseburger with ketchup only. Super size fry.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Super siiz. Frosted.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that's me. Hey, Joe. I would like that my whole career, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Every. Every morning, you know, every, every morning. Hotcakes with sausage. You know, game day, hotcakes with sausage. Large, large oj. You know, regular days after practice, you know, I'm going. Going to McDonald's, getting that Big Mac meal or two cheeseburger meal. Sometimes if I wanted to eat healthy and feel better about myself, I get the filet o fish. But it was the same routine, Joe. And I swore by it. I swore by it. That was the reason I never got hurt.

[Joe Johnson]

Joe, you could.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You couldn't get. You couldn't gain no weight neither.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I was so little, Joe, man, I was a little string bean.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That ain't me, bro. I'm talking about if I look at something wrong, boy, and don't work out.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, that's.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's leaf four, five.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I wish and know it's funny if I don't lift waist. I look, I get. I look. I look sick, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I'm the same way, Ocho. I gotta have that up for My muscle.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I gotta have that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Look. Yeah. I want to be, you know, trimming down a little bit, but I gotta have that texture to my muscle that you can only get by pumping iron. Iron eating protein. Yeah, Animal protein.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

There you go.

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't talking about. No, no, no, man, you can get beans. Man. I don't want no damn beans. Yeah, give me some steak, Give me some chicken, some turkey. Give me something like that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

No. Somebody say, are you talking about a box. No. A single honey bun at a convenience store at $4. That's something.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, them things used to be sometimes be 25 cents.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, like it was yesterday. I used to get 400.

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Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, my brother was telling. Man said, hey, Mr. Joe. Joe. That's the guy we work for, boss. Mr. Joe Tatum, rest his soul. Mr. Joe. Mr. Joe, get me three honey buns and three SOLAs. He said, you sure, peewee? Yeah, yeah. Y', all, I don't know what your work. What, what fast, what, a convenience store. Y' all going to that. Y' all getting honey buns for a dollar or two dollars? Cause I ain't seen none in the hood. Yeah, but, no, they know you're not. Pull up the price of a honey bun, sunbean or Krispy Kreme. Now. They got no more bootleg. They got no more bootleg honey buns?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Nah, I ain't doing no bootleg honey.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hold on, hold on.

[Joe Johnson]

That's what they call them honey buns. Where? What? See? What? Which ones are they? Because I might. I might have to order me some of them. Man, that made no. Damn. I don't even know who made them.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

No, see, I don't like that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You don't like this.

[Joe Johnson]

I want them Sunbeam. Give me sunbeam.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, look, Debbie. Little Debbie. Where is that Joe?

[Joe Johnson]

The only thing I want is them zebra cakes. You give me them zebra cakes.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah,

[Joe Johnson]

hold on.

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[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, see, I'm gonna have to go on it. I like them zebra cakes but I. I can't. I can't mess with them zebra cakes because they. Oh yeah, no, I eat. I just eat too many of them. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh you got what the mean sweet tooth?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I eat by. I eat about Five of them in a city, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I do. Hey, hey, you know my problem is when we have birthdays, bro. The birthday cake. Good birthday cake, huh? Oh, man, man. Boy. Hey, look, you can't even have it around here. I'm telling you, I'm tying some birthday cake up now.

[Joe Johnson]

Roger Goodell bullying these other sports. When it comes to schedule, acting like Mufasa from Lion King, everything the light touches is ours. He lied.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

D say he getting that paper.

[Joe Johnson]

Krispy Kreme Honey buns cost between 150 and 350 a unit. Now I need to know what it was. That's 150, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I need to know what it was up it. What the 150 was. The cripple creams. Cause they got. Hold on. Six honey buns or Krispy Kremes. 26, 24. So six. So that means they fold at least four dollar, right?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that's what I mess with. I don't mess with them. But the Krispy Kreme or the.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's it. That's your donut spot.

[Joe Johnson]

The Honey Buns, man, I ain't had Krispy Kreme honey.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, hold on, hold on. I'm a sucker for a good Cinnabon. No, boy, you give me a good Cinnabon.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, from Cinnabon.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, and that thing soft.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, but you gotta eat it right there, Joe. You can't. Because if it get hard, the edges get hard. You gotta eat it right. As soon as they give it to you, you gotta eat it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Or, or, or if you take it home and you put it in the oven for a split second, bro. A couple minutes, I'm talking about, boy, that thing.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I got one for you. I bet y' all don't know about this is gonna let me know how elite you are when it comes to your snack knowledge. Them Texas cinnamon rolls with the, with the purple writing on it. The Texas. The big, the big Texas cinnamon rolls.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I think I know what you're talking about. I think I know you put that

[ISO Joe Johnson]

big Texas cinnamon roll with the, with the. Got the raisins in it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You benign. Ten seconds.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I used to like them. Debbie raisin, oatmeal raisin. Them raisin pies. Y' all remember the ones, the old Little Debbie with the razors in them.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I went to a place. What about? I think they closed. But they used to do a 2 pound, 3 pound cinnamon roll. Joe. What? That thing was this big. I swear to God, I went to San Antonio Just for it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, what about them little pecan rolls? Y' all eat them? Little pecan roll?

[Joe Johnson]

Them? They. What they call them Spins, twists. I know exactly. It was two in a pack, like

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

six or eight of them.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, I know exactly what I think. It's closed. Is you. Is Lulu's closed? Yeah, it's still open. They still do the 2 lb cinnamon roll. Two 3 pound cinnamon rolls. Spin wheels. That's what they call. Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Spin wheels.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Three pound. Joe. We gotta go try it out.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Damn. What is that?

[Joe Johnson]

In San Antonio, I think somebody had a. A fire. Pound one. They tried to top Lulu's, but.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Man, that thing. Joe, it's like that.

[Joe Johnson]

And. And see, Ash say, just closed. I told you. And they got a. They had this country fried chicken fried bigger the plate. It be hanging off the plate.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, no, them country fried steaks.

[Joe Johnson]

That. What you talking about?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Them things fire.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. I'm a Cavs. Bengals and Red fans. All of them mofos stress me out. I was back and forth for 30 minutes. Let's go, C. I've seen and heard enough. That chat has decided. ISO is the captain now. Oo, you better. Hey. Oo, you better call win on Friday now.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ain't nothing. Ain't nothing he can do. Ain't nothing he can do.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

There's. There's never been a better entertaining person than me. So that. Look, that little bull job you did. Ain't gonna be nothing on what I'm doing.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Don't hate. Don't. Don't hate on it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm not hating. You just told me there's nothing I could do. There is no better entertainment person, entertaining person when the camera's in front of them than I am. I'm letting you know you done, boy. I'm letting you know right now, boy. You done, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

All right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Look, for them to spring it on me like that ain't. Ain't send me nothing for me to be prepared.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You know what, God, boy? God gonna strike you dead sitting there lying to me like that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Joe, now, he. He blessed me with an opportunity. I just showed up and showed out.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey. So you just happen to know everything word for word, out the blue, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, listen. Hey. I'd rather be prepared for an opportunity than to be unprepared.

[Joe Johnson]

But see, yeah, that just goes to show you how he be listening to how he be paying attention. Ocho. So he did it work?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I tell you what, it sound good.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

When she told you to do the Intro yesterday I was thinking, like, damn, if she would have hit me with that. What I would have done. Yeah, I got the right.

[Joe Johnson]

I got right to work. ISO did that intro how he did Paul Pierce. If you just want me to keep it a hundred

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

facts, facts. Put it down.

[Joe Johnson]

Best intro yet. Sorry, unc. And still ISO. Triple X Cup Saturday said no more Club Shay Shay. Now it's Club ISO and still TS Car wash detail service. Sad about Brandon Clark situation. I'll start Isaiah Stewart over. Jalen Duran it is. I don't know the details. I don't know the young man. It is so sad. Obviously, I think Jason Collins, whether that the one that lost his life with a brain. Brain cancer.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Brain cancer.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah, he know.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He played here with me. He played here in Atlanta with me. Big J think Jason Collins good dude, bro. Like, anything. Anytime I had a little shindig at the crib. Uncle Ocho, he always showed up, came and hung out. He played cards with us on the plane. Damn. It's unfortunate, bro. Super cool dude.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. So, yeah, I'm sorry. My thoughts and prayers go out to both families and anybody that was impacted by the sagic. An unexpected, tragic passing of both guys. So sorry to hear that. But our thoughts and prayers from the Nightcap family go out to Brandon Clark's family and also Jason Collins, his family and friends and loved ones. So.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[Joe Johnson]

Sheldon Pope, ISO, what do you remember most about your former teammate Jason Collins? Okay, there you go,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

man. Dog. Big J was super funny, bro. Like, I'm telling y', all, we played. He played Blu Ray with us on the plane, and he always would put some BS in the game, you know what I mean? Just as a cool, funny dude. Like I told y', all, anytime we had a Super bowl party or get together over here in my career, bro, he would always come hang out, have a good time. So, you know, he. He was one of. He was one of my favorite teammates, bro. We had a good time. Super, super cool, dude.

[Joe Johnson]

Filthy McNastly Wrestling Ocho vs. ISO. A cage match. Who wins? Love y', all, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I don't want to do. I don't want to do. Okay, man, I want to beat his face in.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Cause he know I put it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I want to beat your face in.

[Joe Johnson]

I want a box.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I put it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I want a box.

[Joe Johnson]

Huh? You put him in the figure 4.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No, I want a box.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I put his ass in that submission. That.

[Joe Johnson]

That. That full nelson.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Nah, see? Hey, see.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Wrestling scripted. I want. I want to end him.

[Joe Johnson]

Huh? I Want you to end it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I want to end him. I want to box, I want to do. I go on the octagon, do mma, huh? So I can. I want to kick you in your nose.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, all that, Joe, all that over the intro. You hear me?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, Joe, if he want his ass whooped, I whoop his ass, I ain't got no problem.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I don't care about the intro. I want my 500. So I'm gonna beat it at you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Man, damn that 500. You ain't getting that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Don't worry about it. Hey, I'm.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe. Hey, remember, I'm gonna do it like the student did Dragonfly Jones. About that money. You hear me,

[Joe Johnson]

Ocho? You know, another 200. Oh, oh.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

So you owe me 700.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It don't matter how much.

[Joe Johnson]

You ain't gonna pay the man nothing. You ain't gonna say here, oh, this is what I got.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

It's like, oh, yo, you know, credit. Y' all know how credit work. Yeah, you might. All of you might be able to play 20, 30 cent on the dollar, right? You ain't gonna pay him nothing, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I ain't paying Nathaniel.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, he gonna think his name Nathaniel when I'm done with it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, I ain't got nothing for him but the.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, I hope so. Hey, Mad. Hey, you know what I'mma do for him?

[Joe Johnson]

What?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That I'mma knock Joe out and I'mma cut all his hair off so we got a ball head like me.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn, Joe, man, You know Joe. Hey, Joe got that freak up in there. So Joe, he particular about his hair?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, I don't care nothing about that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You said. I got that one in there.

[Joe Johnson]

The pieces of cream juice and berries.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I know you trying. I thought you tried to throw the bears in there.

[Joe Johnson]

Joke.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, no, no, no. Ain't nothing in here, man. This. Hey, ain't nothing.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Don't nobody care nothing about that Jerry curl.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, no, no, no, no.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, y' all know.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, I got hair like Jesus. Jesus had her like wool. This what this is.

[Joe Johnson]

We. I saw it up close and personal.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, what would you say that ain't nothing but a Brillo pass up in

[Joe Johnson]

his little bears up in there.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hello.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What y' all think this is? Y' all think this is a piece on my head?

[Joe Johnson]

Ain't no but ultra per.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, that. Hey, that's a Brillo patch.

[Joe Johnson]

One of them units, though, Joe. Ocho, you remember we've been seeing a lot of them units on what damn unit? Man come down just right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, I don't know.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You know, in Atlanta, they do them units out there real good.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, hey, hey, listen. One thing I could take. I could take the backhand compliment y' all give me.

[Joe Johnson]

I appreciate it, okay?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I appreciate it. Really a compliment y' all giving. But you're hating on the low. It's okay, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Thank you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, look, it's okay to tell a man, man. He got some nice hair. It's okay, man. I ain't judging.

[Joe Johnson]

Got like four or five gray hairs in his head. Come on. Come on, Ocho. Yeah. Come on down. I know, I know. Using that. Are you using that 57, 10, that oriental black?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You see my little gray patch? Yeah, that's a real great little patch.

[Joe Johnson]

He got a unit.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They got that same. They got that same unit on Amazon.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on. What?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They got that same.

[Joe Johnson]

You on Amazon with the great patch and everything?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, Chad. Hey, Chat, Chat. Y' all see how they double teaming? Hey, they hating on me on the low. Hey, but I. I appreciate the.

[Joe Johnson]

Joe. I used to die. I just let mine grow, you see? I don't let mine grow.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, mine growing, too.

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hell, I ain't. I ain't even hit the little tender Age of 45 yet, baby.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, I had people out here thinking I was Pakistani. They say, dang, you damn near 60 with black. Jet black hair. Like, yeah, Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hell, no. Hey, hey, hey. Shout out to my barber. Mario. Hey, Mario, you see how they do me, bro? Now they think I got dye in my head and all that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Let me get. Hey, let me get one of the man units.

[Joe Johnson]

Boy, he got.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hold up, man.

[Joe Johnson]

He.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I ain't saying he ain't got him, but, hey, this ain't no damn.

[Joe Johnson]

Let me tell you something.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I don't know what kind of glue he used, but that sticking, boy gorilla.

[Joe Johnson]

He got that gorilla. Hey, boy, y'.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

All.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, boy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Y' all throw it off of that boy.

[Announcer]

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[Joe Johnson]

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Mm, yeah, but I'm not itching to

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[Joe Johnson]

With the Patriots going to Seattle to open the season and A.J. brown coming to New England, along with new additions to the offensive line, Romeo Dos, do you guys believe the season opener will be more competitive than the Super Bowl?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, hell, now how the season open gonna be more competitive? Absolutely not. Teams not even gonna be into their own. Into their own just yet.

[Joe Johnson]

Take you a couple of. It's gonna take you a couple of days, it's gonna take you a couple of weeks to get to real, real football shape.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Because they don't do anything. They don't play the preseason. Most of your starters ain't gonna play. But maybe five, they might not even play. Oh, hell no. Pistons should call, should call the son up and try to get booked and trade J.D. you know what? Hold on. So you want them to trade for Devin Booker and trade Jalen Duran gonna do that? I don't think son's gonna do that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Nah, they saying. Cause you know Paul Reed giving them great minutes off the bench. They probably rather see Paul Reed here. He got the bulk of the minutes down the street. But hey, hey, but the Pistons do need another score.

[Joe Johnson]

They do.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They need another school.

[Joe Johnson]

They do.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Damn. Even if they can, even, even if they do come back and get out this series, it's just going to be tough to. To continue to advance because hell, you ain't got enough scoring, bro. Sam Le Grant defense gotta be on.

[Joe Johnson]

Go ahead, Joe. What are you gonna say?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Finish your thought. I'm saying your defense has to be like the greatest for you to continue to play and move on with.

[Joe Johnson]

With.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

With, well, offensive output. Like.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. When you. So when you only got really one guy that kind of like can create consistently on his own, it's so hard. And if your defense ever, ever takes a step down because it's so hard for you to get buckets on the other end. And if your defense laps on your end, they just. Because it's a great like if cade it like I said. And I agree with you, Joe, I would not have been mad if K shot the ball 35 times.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hell no. Hey. Damn, all that passing.

[Joe Johnson]

We need buckets. Samuel Grant said feel handy. Help Ruid. That's why he's shooting like he is. Yeah, I think Kyrie works.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hold on.

[Joe Johnson]

He's worked. He worked with Kawhi. He's worked with a lot of guys.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He worked well. He worked with Austin Reeves too.

[Joe Johnson]

A lot. Absolutely. Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's the. Hey, hey. He's probably one of the main guys in developing Austin Reeves handle the way it is today. I'm sure Austin Reeves will give him a lot of credit. He put a lot of time in with that guy.

[Joe Johnson]

Drake dis LeBron tonight when that UNC response. Drake dissed LeBron tonight when that UNC response track dropping. I ain't got nothing to do with me. I stay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey. I stay.

[Joe Johnson]

I stay out. I stay out of grown people beefs. Hey, did y' all hear? Hov ho said he think it's done gone far enough? Look, the beef go way, way back.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

LL&Kumo D had a beef. Who is that? KRS1 and Melee.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Mail.

[Joe Johnson]

BDP. Uh, so I'm over there. Obviously, we've seen a lot of bees. Apple. I think Fabulous. Had a beef with somebody else. Had a beef with somebody, obviously. Tupac and Biggie.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Big. Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Jay Z. Nas.

[Joe Johnson]

Jay Z, Nas. Remy. My Nikki.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Cube with an NWA with no Vaseline.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Can you guys please send birthday wishes to Zorian Green? Zorian, happy birthday. Hopefully you did something great today. You didn't give us a whole lot to work with, bro, but happy birthday. Happy birthday, man. This is about to be a long off season. I got jumped by 20 Laker fans on Twitter today talking about what you said last night. Don't worry, I gave him hell. Gonna be all right. I don't know. I just, you know, argue that. So where were y' all going before LeBron got there? That's all we talking about. That's what we talking about. You say y' all ain't no good. I mean, look, they ain't no good with the Lakers, but y' all saw what y' all record was before LeBron got there. Nobody was looking for y'.

[Announcer]

All.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, you the Lakers, just like the Giants or the Giants and the Cowboys or the Cowboys, but come on. Yeah, the Knicks are the Knicks. Some brands. Yes, you are brand, just like the Celtics. But Celtic was on hard time before they got JT and JB back there.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[Joe Johnson]

Y' all know it. Brandon Jordan comedy. You can read all the stats you want. Kobe is the goat. Okay, that's fine. But you can say Kobe the goat without trying to dump on LeBron. That's fine. Joe, you want to say Jordan to go. Fine. You want to say Bird, Magic, Kareem, that's fine. But the problem is that y' all go out of y' all way when Kobe did what he was doing. With Kobe, ain't nobody say Jordan would have scored 80 with Jordan would score 90 when Kobe had 60. Ain't nobody say Jordan would score 70. LeBron give you a 50 point triple dub double. He he stat paddle.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

It'd be on. It's an ongoing conversation. It'll be an ongoing debate.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

go ahead.

[Joe Johnson]

What are you saying?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm gonna say it's gonna be. It's a back and forth that will never end. Hey, it's damn near like politics when it comes.

[Joe Johnson]

I can agree Ocho. You might say Jerry, you might say Randy. I can say Jerry's the goat. But by saying Jerry to go, that doesn't take away anything that Randy or to has done. Okay, Randy to go. People say Randy's to go. He got the malls and to great run after the catch. That don't take away anything Jerry's done that doesn't take away thing Randy's done. And what those other two guys did doesn't take away anything from to right. But what y' all try to do, y' all try to minimize what LeBron has done. Because when you he win, y' all y' all talking about, hell, he lost it. Everybody else. You say Magic Johnson won five titles. They don't bring up Magic losses. They don't bring up Kobe losses. They only break. They don't bring up LeBron's win. They just talk about he got six final losses. Yeah, get a man. It's okay. You want to say Kobe to go, fine. You want us. I can. I can debate that with you. You say Jordans to go. I can debate that. Magic, Kareem Bird, Elijah1, Duncan, Shaq, whomever. We can have a healthy discussion without trying to just be dismissive of the other guy. Up. You already tore knee bowling. So Ocho basketball game go be the better days to go to the hospital. Hey,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

landslide.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, you were wrong last night. After Kobe retired Lakers Ted Master televised game ESPN TNT 23 times and 1635 times at 18. MJ was 6. 6 and 5 is better than 4. 4 in less years. If all you talking about is championships. Well, if that's the case, Why is it Havlicek? He didn't lose any finals. He won eight in the same amount of years. Why isn't it Russell? He won 11 in less years. Same MVPs five. They didn't have the finals MVP because the finals MVP didn't come into effect until 1969. And in 1969, Jerry west won the finals MVP on a losing squad. That's the Only time that has ever happened in basketball. It's happened in football once. Chuck Howley from the Cowboys, he won the Super Bowl MVP on a losing squad. They lost 1613 to the Indianapolis Colts. So if you're just talking championship, what about the guy that's won a bunch of championships? I'm looking at totality. I'm looking at points scored. I'm looking at All Star game. I'm looking at all NBA selections, Finals MVPs, regular season MVPs, leading it to leading his team in point. Leading a team in six. There's a lot that goes into it. So we just taking championships. Well, all the Celtics should be on the top. Top 10. Sam Jones, Casey Jones, Havlicek, Russell. Like you said, Joe Ocho, we're gonna be having this debate forever.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

LeBron is going outside MJ forever. Quick one question. Y' all think LeBron look worse than what y' all say LeBron looked worse than what Jordan did in. In. In Washington? Are we really having this discussion? I mean, seriously. Come on now. Let's be real. Are y' all saying right now LeBron James looked worse his last two years in LA? Ben Jordan looked in Washington.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They ain't saying that.

[Joe Johnson]

What he. That what he just said.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Nah, I'm gonna help him out now. He ain't saying that.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, guys. You haven't thought about having Lil Wayne make a theme song for Nightcap like he did for Undisputed or any other singer, rapper? No, we hadn't thought about it. We. Cause, but it cost money for that, bro.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes. Fox had to pay for that. We ain't got no money for that. I just come in and do the intro of joking. Do the intro. We'll alternate. If y' all want us to alternate, we'll alternate. Do the intro.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Matter of fact, we ain't paying no money. You know I'd be in the studio, Uncle. I can make a song.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, trust me. Do you hear? Club Shay Shay, Nipsey Hussle, how to pay for that a lot. Every year. Yeah, I got a re up.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, y', all, man, Unc, all the ads. Every time they come out with a graphic, man. The Graphic team on the historical run. Y' all need a raise. Well, how the hell they gonna get a raise? Man up, man. Hey, hey, hey. Gravity boy. Y' all on the run. Y' all need to raise. Oh, y'. All. Hey, I don't know whoever the Graphic team is, but damn, I know. Hell you think? How the hell you think I'M gonna get up that race if we ain't got no advertising dollars coming in.

[Commercial Voice]

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[Joe Johnson]

I mean, go. Go to the thing. Oh, go to the. Go to the cop. Go to the other one they just put up. See how you gotta go down before they say the team Night cap Team Graphic Team need a rage.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Go.

[Joe Johnson]

How many comments?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, I already know. I already know it. Yeah, you ain't gotta go far neither.

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on, let me see.

[Announcer]

Everybody knows Shaq, but off camera, he's

[Joe Johnson]

just a regular guy.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

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[Joe Johnson]

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[Joe Johnson]

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[Joe Johnson]

Gravity Team on a generational run I'm loving these. Man. Y' all need a raid.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah but then they put that pressure

[Joe Johnson]

on we need to we try to I wish ocho that would die cat. We try to get back to that the first 5, 10 minutes number the ass. Don't y' all rather hope we go ahead and get those out the way? Yeah yeah. Them goons gonna rob aim for his chain. Took a look at gave him another said that that's hallucination. Yeah. How you doc? The most points this man scored in four games was 10. I told all he had to do is take away the the Dom and put a b abomination. I mean come on now but that's a a chain a Shaq should have got you get wimby

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

bro. Hey. Hey. He had to be feeling good at the time he hit the jewel and told him to make that one. He was feeling real good at the time.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh my goodness. How many likes on streams for you to not cry over LeBron? Next stream MJ to go nothing. Because guess what My pod. Why y' all so let me ask you a question. How many how many streams you how many likes you need for you not to take a shot at LeBron? Huh? How many jump back in there domination 5? How many you need? I mean, how many how many for you not to take a shot at LeBron? I'm Just curious. MJ the goat.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Fine.

[Joe Johnson]

Like I said, we've had we having a conversation. But my only thing is you can like something without trying to talk down or belittle something else. That's it. Absolutely need to take a breather. Calm down. It's getting out of hand. How you know it's getting out of hand? So am I just talking or am I responding to people? I mean, for an action, there has to be an opposite reaction. So if I've just put. If I just put this. If I just put this ball on this table, it won't move, but if I touch it, I caused a reaction. Yeah. So it's gonna roll. I've just responded to what chat and what people have said on television. You make it seem like I go, ask people when they see me in the barbershop. Ask people when they see me out on the street. Hey, man, let's talk about Jordan right quick. I know you got a little time on your hand. Let's talk about Jordan, let's talk about Kobe, let's talk about LeBron. Nobody's ever seen me out and I've had a conversation about LeBron. People bring things up. They'll bring up Brady, they'll bring up this guy, this receiver, that guy. Y' all make it seem like we. I just brought this up. MJ couldn't even win until he got Pippin bro. Was 1 and 9 in the playoffs with back to back sweeps in the first round. LeBron ran at three teams to conference semis in three years, losing in seven. My only thing. Joe, you know what my biggest problem is? To be the God's honest truth is that people tell you Jordan never lost a game. He never. He never. He never missed a shot.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

He never missed a free throw that could have won the game. Same thing. That's it. Oh, LeBron got swept. Did you. Did Jordan not get swept twice by the Celtics, Right. Well, the Celtics, good. So OKC Thunderbombs. Many people have Kevin Durant, that 1718 warriors team, as one of the greatest, if not the greatest team ever assembled.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Is it a shame to get swept by them? It's not. Y' all make it seem like the only time. The only time you can honestly say LeBron should have won is 2011. If you. 2011. I believe they had a better team than Dallas Braun, Wade, Bosch. Dirk is the greatest run in NBA finals history. When you look at what he did, beat Russ Harden and KD beat LeBron. Bosch and Wade gentleman sweep Kobe after coming off back to back Championships.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

That is the greatest running finals in finals on the way to the finals and finals. Is that. Is it?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

Jordan is great, but you make it seem like there's only room for like there are a lot of great inventions. The telephone is a great invention. The television is a great invention. The automobile is a great invention. Y' all make it seem like the only. You're gonna have one great basketball player, Ocho Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Gotta be able to enjoy them all.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes. All things being equal. What. What would you. Some people. What's the greatest invention? Is it the cell phone, Ocho? Is it the television? Is it the automobile? Is it the airplane vaccines? Everybody is not going to say telephone is the greatest invention. Everybody's not going to say automobile, the airplane, tv, television, the refrigerator? Huh? Electricity. I mean. I mean, you can make a case that vaccine, antibiotics. We're not gonna agree on everything. It's okay. You are a thousand percent correct about narratives changing. I remember most lists had Kobe 9 through 12 on all time list before he died. Then he died. Then magically he started moving up. You can Google it and ask. I have. But. But it happens. It happens. It happened. In Dr. King's case, there were not a whole lot of T shirts printed it up and people weren't going around because I have a dream speech happened in 1963, if I'm not mistaken. Ocho said he was called oh my goodness back then. He also said oh my goodness when he saw old lady rolling up on the cables in the back seat.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, man. Come on, man. Come on, Come on, come on, come on.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, my goodness. All that. Hey, Joe. That man started pulling on that thing. Oh, my God. Come on, man. Hey, come on, come on, come on.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, come on, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Right here. With nobody who wait. Ah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe. That's the decision she made, Joe, you know.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, my.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Nothing you can do about it, ojo. Nothing you can do about it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You know, after that point, I was the one doing all the coiling up after that point.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on, Ocho, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm just saying.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, so you can't let one moment change who you are.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm talking about after that point, you know, that's who I was. You know, I was always number two. Now, you know, I'm different now. I'm seasoned, I'm a veteran, you know, And I'm, you know, I done settled down. You feel me?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Cambodia got a good one. Yeah, yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

She do, she do, she do, she do.

[Joe Johnson]

Yo, big three. My birthday is tomorrow, the 14. Can I get A shout out for my favorite part. And do you have any Chicago Bear story? Yes. Happy birthday, bro. Enjoy the birthday. Hopefully you got something fun playing, man. Hey, I mean, you probably bigger in the birthdays than. Than I am. I know Ocho said he ain't that big in the birthdays. Joe, you celebrate birthdays, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Not since I was young. Okay, Ocho, like 25, you know, I ain't really done nothing.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, I mean, I ain't really had any Bear stories. I mean, I only played the Bears. I had. Well, I played the Bears. Hold on. 90, 93. I played them in 01. Then I played them my last. I played them four times. But I played them when, you know, they had. They still had a Singletary on the team. Richard Dent was on the team. Dicker was the coach. They beat us, and then we went to soldier field in 93 and we beat them. Then we beat them opening day in 2001. That's when. That's when they had Earl. Like Earlocker was there then. And then they beat us. My last year. 12 is where Kobe belongs. The least efficient top 12 player ever won MVP. ESPN got him 9th. Bleacher Report got him 11th. Kobe. Laker fans don't want to hear the truth. I can keep going,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

man.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn, Ocho need a do over. Y'. All perfect trio. You could see LA moving the 25th pick and someone in a package get a better player in the draft. A vet. The lakers got the 25th pick. Is that what we talk about? Lakers, Wow. Hey, Unc. My, my. Hey, uncle. My wife Margarita. Marquita has always held me down, and she's going through a tough time. Can you please give her a shout out to keep her head up? Marquita. Hey, hubby. Say, you know what? When things were going bad for him and he was feeling down, you picked him up. He says now the time. He wanted to return the favor, but in the meantime, you keep your head up. Sunshine follows rain. No matter how difficult it seems, no matter how dark it may be, light will eventually come back out.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Always.

[Joe Johnson]

So thank you for always being there for him, for being the excellent wife that you've always been. You know, it's his time to be the great husband. Because when you got married, you know what you said? It didn't matter. Rich, poor, sickness and doesn't matter. So thank you. Hey, bro, thank you for supporting us. Thank you for reaching out. And we wish Marquita a speedy, speedy recovery. Mikel Jones, rip to my pop. He couldn't stand the Broncos. We Cowboys for life. And he always used to tell me, son, I want anyone else but up to catch the damn ball. Oh, Rip. Pops, man, thank you so much. I mean, I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Thank you for supporting Nightcap. Yeah, man, I'm telling you, this has been a tough time for you Cowboys fan, but I'm sure your pops got an opportunity to see some. Some of them great cowboy team. Those Cowboy teams of the 70s and the cowboy teams of the mid-90s were exemplary. But RP the pops and Mikhail, thank you guys. I really appreciate the support. Hey, Nightcap, can you guys give my beautiful fiance Z, a birthday shout out? She's been blessing to me and my outstanding mom and our kids. Appreciate you guys. I love the show. Y' all killing it. Z. Happy birthday.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Happy birthday.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Happy birthday. Happy birthday.

[Joe Johnson]

Love you. Say, bro. Say, hey. You the best mom and the best wife a man could ask for. And at the end of the day, that's all it's about to you. When you join a union, happy birthday. Because what you're supposed to do, oh, you're in a relationship. You water her, she water you.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And you both grow. That's not supposed to be. It's not me versus you. It's not you versus me. It's us versus this damn problem. We're gonna stand united. We a. We gonna drown out the noise, knowing we're gonna go through things, things are gonna get difficult, things are gonna get tough. But you know what? Together, we're a formidable duo. So, Z, Justin wanted you to know that. He wanted to know that you were the best mom, the best wife someone could ask for. And that someone was him. And he appreciates you and he loves you very much. I saw working that intro like you trying to get signed by That's My Mama Records.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That's my mama record. That's a good one.

[Joe Johnson]

What's up, Nightcap crew? Love the show. Been watching since day one. Can I get a birthday shout out? I'm turning to Big three. Three. What it do, man? Hey, man, happy birthday. Hopefully you got something playing, man. I mean, you and the homies going out. You got an old lady, she gonna take you out, get you a nice steak dinner, you know, shrimp. And you know what? Order that tower. She take you out, order that seafood tower. No, brother. Happy birthday, man. Appreciate the support. It means a lot that people have held us down, man. We going on through. I mean, September be three years, bro. I mean it. Oh, it's flown by Joe, by it's flow. I mean, damn. But it seemed like just it. I don't know, Ocho. Does it seem. Does it seem three years or does it seem longer?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

It's nice. It seems shorter to me.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

When you're having a good time. Time flies, fellas.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah. It's been unbelievable. It's. It's. It's been unbelievable. And, you know, that's where. That's where it's going. You know, everybody want direct to consumer. They want to be able to. And I think the thing is, when you do a podcast, you know, I think the thing is not Joe and Ocho, I think people that. They feel that when they listen to a podcast.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

They don't have bosses. Like, if you work at a network or something and you say something. Well, somebody told you to say that. I can honestly say I've been on CBS and I've been on Fox and I've been on espn. I've never had anybody to tell me what I could or couldn't say. Yeah. Now what you do have is people like. Now you got to understand what you're trying to say. Is it going to be received as what you're trying to convey?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

So then. Now you gotta pause. Okay. I'm trying to say this. It ain't gonna. It ain't. That's not how they're gonna take it. So you just. Okay, leave it alone. But here. Nah. We try to be as thorough as we can. We try to be as authentic as we can, knowing that everybody. Everybody is not gonna like what we have to say. Right. People that might have liked Ocho yesterday, he might say something today, they don't like Ocho Joe might says have said something yesterday they didn't like. But Ocho, Joe is saying something today they like not. You understand? That comes along with it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yep.

[Joe Johnson]

That's a part of it. And you have to be willing to accept that. You have to be willing in this thing that really to. To deal with some level of criticism.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I like criticism.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. But I think. Hate me for what I am, but don't love me for what I'm not. I can live with. This is what. What you see with Ocho, that's what he allows you to see. What you see with Joe, that's what he allows you to see. What you see with me, this is what I allow you to see. I don't know how you really think you really, really know someone when you get to spend two to three hours a day with them, not interact with them, not be in their home and not see what they eat. And see how they live and see their day to day. I mean, people that be around you, you know, Cambodia knows. Yeah, she knows. You know, hey, she's been around him and see his schedule. Joe's old lady knows it. My people know me. But that's the way social media operates now, man. You give people a little glimpse into you. That's why you got to be careful. That's what you. That's why you got to be careful, Ocho, about how much you share with people. People. Because people.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, I know. I know him.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, but listen, I share every goddamn thing, so ain't nothing to surprise.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, not everything. Until you brought that swing set out.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, what ain't they know now

[Joe Johnson]

you got to keep that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, they do.

[Joe Johnson]

Man. Cambodia might any want that out there.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

It's too late, Boy, you know, I ain't got. Hey, I ain't got nothing to hide.

[Joe Johnson]

She might have stuff to hide otherwise.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You're not. Shoot. Not dealing with me, boy. You dealing with me, boy. It's up and stuck.

[Joe Johnson]

She should have thought about that before she started dealing with you.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Absolutely. Because, you know, I'm an open book, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Joe, you want to close it out?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Damn. I ain't working.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You ain't got no script. Yeah. You see what I mean? Yeah. Close it out, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, look. Misery love.

[Joe Johnson]

Joe. Close it out. What happened?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. And the Cleveland Cavaliers go to Detroit and take home court away. They can close out the series on Friday thanks to a 117, 113 victory at overtime. James Harden was sensational down the stretch, and they got a couple of big buckets for Donovan Mitchell. But the story of the night was Max Stru. He took eight shots. Yeah, all eight were threes. He made six. He was sensational down the stretch when he had to be. And he came up with the biggest steal of the night in overtime on Cade Cunningham. Cade was phenomenal, but he didn't get much help, Denise. Dennis Jenkins gave him 19. Paul Reed was Paul Reed. He's probably going to play a lot more minutes than 17 because they're going to need him. But they need to buy his Harris. This was the night they needed to buy his Harris to come along for the. Come along to the party. And they didn't. Give them credit. Give the Cavaliers credit. This is a hard fought victory. They could have hung their heads. They were down 9, but they clawed their way back. Going to a night a 9, 0 run. Get into overtime and they win at 117 113. They can close the series out, head to the Eastern Conference Finals and face the New York Knicks with a win on Friday night. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite unc. There's my partner and co host. That's the Liberty City legend. That's the Bingo Ring of Fame honoree, a Madding's ratings adjuster, a former Pro Bowler and an All Pro. That is Chad Ochocinko Johnson and the guy, the third member of the Big Three who did the intro tonight and did an outstanding job. He's a seven time NBA All Star from the Atlanta Hawks, a University of Arkansas alum. He's a Little Rock, Arkansas native. Y' all know it. ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. And do us a favor, go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. We'd like to thank each and every one of you for your eyes, ears and your word of mouth. Because none of this is possible without you. All the awards, all the nominations that we've received over the last three years is all because of you and people, sponsors and advertisers. They come to Nightcap because they know you love us. We can't thank you enough. So again, thank you for your support and your continued support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shade by Le Portier, head over to le portierconac.com if it's currently unavailable in a state or city near you. It is a premium VSOP Cognac that drinks like an xo. The best tasting, smoothest VSOP Cognac on the market. Remember, we have two sides. The OG, which is a 750, but now we have the Junior, the 375. The same great quality, same taste, the same smoothness. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Hashtag sports awards 2026 short list we've been nominated in four categories. Best brand Partnership for Nightcap, Outside and Row. Best Podcast, Best Athlete Podcast. Best Use of Live Video. Please go vote for us. The link is pinned in the chat. We can't thank you enough. Like I said, all of this is possible. All these nominations, all these awards that Ocho not gonna get when we win is all the cast beat the Pistons 117 to 113 and they have an opportunity to close this thing out on Thursday night and then head to New York and take on the Knicks for a chance to go to the NBA Finals again. Thank you guys for joining us. I'm Unk, he's ISO, he's ocho. We're off tomorrow. We'll see you back Friday night. Thank you guys for joining us. Sam.

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