Nightcap Hour 3: Q and Ayyyyy

Summary

Nightcap Hour 3: Q and Ayyyyy | April 9, 2026

Main Theme & Purpose

This “Nightcap” episode features NFL and NBA legends Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson, and special guest Joe Johnson (ISO Joe) tackling a lively Q&A session. The trio entertains viewer-submitted video questions and live chat topics—all with their signature unfiltered opinions and humor. Topics range from favorite athlete stories and sports hot takes to deeper conversations about family, personal growth, and fatherhood.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Q&A Segment and Stories

Timestamp: 02:20–05:27

• The hosts dive into video questions from the Discord community.

• Kevin Garnett Story (Joe Johnson): Joe tells a classic KG story, highlighting KG’s intense competitive spirit.

  • Joe Johnson (04:01): “KG a great dude, bro… you want him on your team, I promise you. But, boy, if you ain’t on his team, he gonna treat you like something on the bottom of his shoe.”

• Cut, Bench, Start: NFL Legends

  • The guys weigh in on a choice between Randy Moss, Calvin Johnson, and Jerry Rice.
  • Playful back-and-forth as Chad mentions personal connections with some of these legends.

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2. Community & Fan Interactions

Timestamp: 07:03–12:53

• Listeners share personal stories, including family dynamics, respect, and cursing around parents.
• The hosts discuss their personal upbringings regarding respecting elders and cursing.
• Shannon Sharpe (Joe Johnson) (09:57): “I’m not grown. And even when I got grown, I’m not cussing in front of my mom. I’m not cussing in front of my grandma. I’m just not.”
• Ochocinco and Joe talk about their children and maintaining respect, even into adulthood.
• They discuss regional differences (South vs. North) and cultural aspects of family traditions.

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3. Arcane & Hilarious Viewer Questions

Timestamp: 14:13–18:44

• Fans share memories of playing against/talking to the hosts, reminiscing about their school days and sporting rivalries.
• Nostalgic references to Pine Bluff, Arkansas, with stories from Joe about his high school basketball career.
• Join-in laughter about “catching the baddest one you lost,” honesty about relationship mistakes, and lessons learned.

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4. Relationships, Choices & Real Talk

Timestamp: 26:43–38:48

• The crew gets candid about relationships, discipline, and why so many people stumble in the same personal areas.
• Ochocinco (30:12): “It ain’t even bored... I just had access. I had many, many, many, many options.”
• They discuss the “chase” mentality in men and how settling down often requires the “right one” to come along.
• ISO Joe (31:55): “You ain’t never seen a lion or a tiger tame itself. It always had a trainer. You hear me? It take the right one. Praise God.”

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5. Deep Dives: Fatherhood & Absent Dads

Timestamp: 56:00–62:26

• Both Ochocinco and ISO Joe share emotional stories about their fathers—both were incarcerated during their childhoods.
  • They discuss the responsibility and determination they felt not to repeat those patterns.
  • Ochocinco (56:13): “Not having one taught me how to be one... It does something to you.”
• They reflect on how reconnecting with their fathers later in life shaped their perspective, with no interest in blaming but rather moving forward.

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6. Sports-Specific Nuggets & Playful Debates

Throughout the episode

• Tallest NFL players in history are discussed; Jonathan Ogden and Dan McGwire get mentions.
• Shannon/Joe (18:19): “Ogden. 6’9”... Dan McGwire, Mark McGwire’s brother for the Seahawks, he was like 6’8”.”
• Hardest hits and toughest playoff opponents are discussed, such as LeBron and the Miami Heat “Big Three.”
• Joe (41:29): “In the playoffs, you know my plays, I know your plays... When we played that Miami Heat team with Bron, D-Wade, Bosh? Man, them dudes was different.”
• Fans ask “Start, Bench, Cut” for NFL running backs: Barry Sanders, Christian Okoye, Eric Dickerson—Barry gets unanimous "start" nod.
• Ochocinco and Joe joke about skating and pool as hidden talents and competitive outlets.

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7. Relationship Advice & Life Lessons

Timestamp: 43:29–48:44

• The trio give advice to a fan choosing between stronger social bonds and physical attractions.
• Shannon (43:29): “Choose the woman that likes you, not the woman you like. Took me a while to learn that.”
• They discuss what matters most in long-term companionship: connection, respect, and the ability to share life, not just attraction.

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8. Mindset, Personal Growth & Routine

Timestamp: 65:10–66:40

• Yoga and meditation are cited as essential for mental health and growth.
• Ochocinco (65:18): “Yoga for me, bro... hour, hour and a half to myself just to really meditate, think.”
• The discipline of physical and mental health habits is a recurring theme.

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9. Sports Debates: KD, LeBron, Superstars

Timestamp: 67:09–72:57

• A spirited discussion about Kevin Durant’s move to the Golden State Warriors versus LeBron’s moves.
• Shannon (70:45): “Kevin Durant joined the Golden State Warriors after being up 3–1 on them... They'd just won 73 games... They had a unanimous MVP.”
• Shannon (71:53): “You cannot deny it... wherever you want to rank him... LeBron’s a bad mofo. If it’s that easy, why nobody else average 28.6, 7, and 7, for 23 years?”

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Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Kevin Garnett's Competitive Nature
  “KG a great dude, bro… but, boy, if you ain’t on his team, he gonna treat you like something on the bottom of his shoe.”
  — Joe Johnson (04:01)
• On Respect & Cursing Around Parents
  “Even when I got grown, I’m not cussing in front of my mom. I’m not cussing in front of my grandma. I’m just not.”
  — Shannon Sharpe (09:57)
• On Relationship Lessons
  “Choose the woman that likes you, not the woman you like. Took me a while to learn that.”
  — Shannon Sharpe (43:29)
• On Fatherhood
  “Not having one taught me how to be one... It does something to you.”
  — Chad ‘Ochocinco’ Johnson (56:13)
• On Human Nature & Temptation
  “Everything that we're taught is counterproductive to what human nature is... that’s why everyone keeps effing up.”
  — ISO Joe Johnson (38:19)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |------------------------------------------------------------|---------------| | Kevin Garnett Story + Cut/Bench/Start | 02:20–05:27 | | Family, Cursing, and Respect | 07:03–12:53 | | Arkansas Memories, Fan Shout-outs | 14:13–18:44 | | Tall Players, Hidden Athletic Talents | 18:08–18:44 | | Start, Bench, Cut (NFL RBs), Fan Entrepreneurship | 25:13–26:43 | | Relationship Real Talk | 26:43–38:48 | | Hardest Hits, Toughest Opponents | 41:06–43:29 | | Relationship Choices & Long-Term Companionship | 43:29–48:44 | | Skating, Pool, and Childhood Memories | 51:39–54:49 | | Fatherhood, Absent Dads, Legacy | 56:00–62:26 | | Yoga, Mental Health, Routine | 65:10–66:40 | | KD, LeBron, Superstar Comparison | 67:09–72:57 |

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Tone & Style

• Language/Tone: Candid, humorous, and often raw; the hosts keep it “real” with each other and their fans, blending lighthearted banter with genuine moments of vulnerability and reflection.

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Final Notes

This Nightcap Q&A hour captures why fans flock to Shay Shay Media: camaraderie, frank advice, insider stories, and unfiltered perspectives from sports icons who’ve lived it. Whether talking trash, telling stories of family triumphs and pains, or making sense of sports legacies, Shannon, Ocho, and Iso Joe make every minute feel like late-night conversation with old friends.

Transcript

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[Joe Johnson]

All right, it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

That went fast, didn't it man? Hey, you might try to get you some sleep tonight, huh?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey man, we only Talked about basketball tonight.

[Joe Johnson]

What else you want to talk about, man?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Something else besides basketball.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay, we gonna get in these chats and we'll see. Before we get to the super chat, we got five video voicemail from our discord. Let's take a listen to what the first ones had to say.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What's up?

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Night, Cat Fam.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What's up, Ocho, Unc and Joe.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

I gotta.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I got two questions. Joe. My favorite.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Everybody got, you know, Michael Jordan and Kobe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

But my favorite player is Kevin Garnett. I've been watching him. I did biographies about him. Did everything growing up. So that's my favorite player. Can you give me a story, Joe, about Kevin Garnet?

[Joe Johnson]

It don't have to be a long one.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

It'll be a quick one.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And Unc and Ocho, you gotta cut, bench and start. Randy Moss, Calvin Johnson or Jerry Rice. Love y'.

[Joe Johnson]

All.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Main list.

[Joe Johnson]

Yo, you played against.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

I played against him. I played with him. I got a story. When we was on the same team in Brooklyn, the man had a story every day. He had a story every day. But this particular time, we was on the road, and we had just played against OKC and okc, and it was. I had a game win of that game. As we. Me, kg, we leaving out the locker room. He probably about five steps in front of me. So as soon as I come out the locker room, Ibaka, he come. He was right next to me. As we walking, he. He tapped me. Ibaka was like, hey, you think KG will let me come work out with him in the summer? I'm pumped shitty right there. Here, why don't you go ask him? I don't know. Yeah, man. He went up there to ask kg. Yes, kg, could he work out with him in the summer. KG went off on him, man, get your bum ass away from me. He went left on that, man. I said, damn. Hey, let me tell y' all something. KG a great dude, bro. I'm talking about he the dude that you want on your team. I promise you he gonna. He gonna always have your back. But, boy, if you ain't on his team, boy, he gonna treat you like something on the bottom of his shoe.

[Joe Johnson]

Do you hear me?

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

I'm talking about he went left on a baki.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Ibaka was already scared to ask him. I could tell. Cause he tried to get me to ask. I'm like, hell, no. I ain't asking.

[Joe Johnson]

You go after.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

He's standing right there, man. That man went left on the box.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn ticket.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Oh, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Here's our second One. Let's take a listen to the second one.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Oh, Ocho.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

ISO and steel.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Yo, what's up with y' all boys, man? Yo, bro, we.

[Joe Johnson]

Me and you got beef, bro.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

We gonna have to box, bro, just

[Joe Johnson]

the way Joe finna do Ocho, you

[ISO Joe Johnson]

know what I'm saying? With the little.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I'm gonna have to do you just like that. About 5, 7.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, about 5, 7.

[Joe Johnson]

About 143. You know what I'm saying? We got beef. You wonder why we got beef, bro?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Because listen, bro, I ordered me a laportier bottle. I ain't get no box, bro. They ain't send me no box with

[Joe Johnson]

my laportier bottle, bro. So, yeah, we got beef, bro.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

In the Atlanta. The Atlanta hall or Atlanta Falcons fan that was just on the other night. She got her box, and I want my box.

[Joe Johnson]

So we gonna have to box until I get my box. For real, dog. The boxes you ordered recently, the box was the original. So there was 25, 000 boxes and the people that ordered, and I think it came out in 2021. So, no, the box is not a problem.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

At five seven, 143, he ain't got a snowball chance of hell, no.

[Joe Johnson]

But now you ain't getting no box either, now that I think about it. Not hell, no, no. Yeah, yeah. Big pine box, one. About five, eight. Yeah. Here's our third one. Let's take a listen to the third one.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Hey, Nightcap family, it is Dahlia.

[Joe Johnson]

This is my first, but not my last video chat. This Message is for Oo and Ocho, only Ocho. I'm about to be 50 years old, and my son is turning 21 this year. My father is a pastor of a church, and my mother is deeply in church.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

And I cuss in front of both of them.

[Joe Johnson]

Why? Because I'm grown.

[Commercial Voice]

I don't like hypocrites.

[Joe Johnson]

And it sounds like those two on the left and right of you are very hypocritical, which explains why they be trying to exclude you from everything they do. If you look at the astrology wheel, Capricorn and cancer are polar opposites. So what they talking about? Raise your kids the way you see fit. My son cusses in front of me. He don't cuss at me. So that's the difference. So that's where the disrespect comes in.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

So keep doing what you do.

[Joe Johnson]

Keep being amazing.

[Commercial Voice]

You are in the center of the

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

screen because you are the nucleus of this show.

[Joe Johnson]

See Y', all next time.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, I like that, I like that, I like that, I like that. I mean, it's a little different. I, my kids probably curse when I'm not probably. I know they do. Hey, I mean, they grown Everybody in their 20s, except, except three of them. I'm sure they do curse. They don't curse in front of me. I'm scared to curse in front of my grandma and my mama when they were here, you know, God, God rest their soul. My mama, Joe, she probably the best curse in the world. She could put words together. I ain't even know you can have that type of combination words that go together. But I mean, outside of that, I, I, I hear you. I appreciate the love, sis. And I'm just here. I'm just here.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't get, I don't get into telling people how they should or shouldn't raise their kids. I grew up, my grandfather cursed, my grandmother didn't. My mom cursed, some of my uncles cursed. But I'm not grown. And even when I got grown, I'm not cussing in front of my mom. I'm not cussing in front of my grandma. I'm just not. My kids, I know that they drink. They were drinking in college. I got no problem. Hey, that's not me. But they're not going to curse in front of me. I don't give a damn how grown they are because guess what? They grown. But when they need money, guess where they coming on. Show them grown ass coming and ask me for money.

[Commercial Voice]

So if you grown up.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Right, right, right.

[Joe Johnson]

My kid, your kids. People, kids. I know people, Joe. And that happens in the South. I don't know if it's happened up north where some kids call their parents by their name. First name. What you think I'll be able to call my mama Mary or call my grandma Mary or call Papa? What? I mean, some people call their parents by their first name. I had cousins, they called it. They mom and daddy by their first name. I was like, lord, that must be really nice. But ma', am, you keep. Those are your kids.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Hello.

[Joe Johnson]

Your son, you raise them how you see fit. You won't allow him to curse. Have at it. I'm not going to tell you what you should or shouldn't do. I'm just telling you. Yes, I curse, but my kids are not going to curse in front of me. That ain't gonna happen. And you know why? They got too much respect for me. They know I don't play like that.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Go ahead. My grandmother, like, I Said she was a lead singer in the choir. Church. She was a church going woman. But, boy, I'm talking about she could cuss with the best of them. You hear me? Look, this is why. This is why I tell y', all, man, I was in church three, four days out the week, man, with my grandma. You know what I mean? And. And look, as I got older, it wasn't nothing for me to put a couple cuss words together because I had been around her, she raised me, you know what I mean? So I already knew what was going on. Yeah, yeah, but I'm like Unc, man. My oldest, he just turned 19.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I ain't.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Man, listen, my youngest son, who's 4, he only. He probably don't even know my real name. Oh, he called me a daddy. He don't know nothing else.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that's. But here's the. Here. Here's the bigger thing. Ocho Joe. Why would they want to curse in front of their parents? What is so important? What do you feel you need to put such emphasis on? What is it that you feel you can't say? Your point, you can't make without using the curse words.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

It all depends on the dynamic, especially where you grew up, your surroundings, your upbringing. I mean, all that comes into play. Most of the time when you're cursing, you're just talking similar. Sometimes when I curse, I don't even realize I'm cursing. It's just the way I explain things based on the circumstance of the situation I'm talking about, you know? And.

[Joe Johnson]

But you talking to me, and, Joe, you talking to your homeboy. You ain't talking like that in front of your mom and your grandma and get. You realize everything. No, no, no, no, no. Exactly.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, no. Oh, no. I know one thing. I guarantee you this, and I can stand firm. On what? On this belief, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

What's that?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You know, my mama. There's only one person that rival my mama when it come to cursing and putting words together and reading somebody for filth, and that would be Ms. Tia Kemp, who is also down here from Miami, which is probably why she can put words together and curse the way she do when it's time to go up on somebody. Boy. Paula, Hurricane Johnson and Kia Kim, but ain't nobody in the world seeing them when it's time to curse.

[Joe Johnson]

And I think. I think when you in a situation, in a. An environment, you're comfortable.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't want my kids. I've never been that comfortable in front of my grandma and my mom to curse I don't want my kids that comfortable. You want to get out there and you want to curse, have at it. But I. I'm. I'm big. I'm big on that. I don't ask them a whole lot. Be respectful of I'm still dead. Yes, sir. That's all I ask. I. Hey, I know y'.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

All.

[Joe Johnson]

I know you're gonna be. I know when you were teenagers and when you were in your 20s and mid-20s and 30s. Now you're in your 30s. Give me. I don't ask much. Just. Just keep that level of respect. There. There are certain things. It's just like in a relationship. There are certain things that. Hey, I understand we get comfortable. We've been around each other, Joe. But I'm just saying there's certain things I don't need to know, I don't need to see. That's all I'm saying. But, ma', am, the one thing Joe and I will not do. We're not going to tell you how to. You want your son to curse your son? If you say 29, you about to be 50. Your son 20. 20. 29 or 21. I think she said 20.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

21. 21.

[Joe Johnson]

21. That's. That is your son. That's your offspring. That's your seed. No, no, no, no, no. Them three, that ain't happening. All right, here's our fourth one. Let's take a listen. What they had to say.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Yo, what up, Nightcap? This Stan man represent Pine Bluff, Arkansas. Okay. Shout out for the 2 million subs. Yeah. One of my favorite tight ends all time. One of my favorite football players all time. Ocho, my guy. I used to play with you on the, man. I used to call it a go to monster because that's when you had the goals in. You was killing everything. Joe, Arkansas native, question for you. You played in Power Bluff twice your senior year, once at the King Cotton Classic. Remember they had you on the.

[Joe Johnson]

On the brochure?

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Yeah. He got game. And then you also came to one

[Joe Johnson]

state championship your senior year. Can you tell me what you remember

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

about playing in the Bluff and showing love for Arkansas?

[Joe Johnson]

Appreciate it.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Love, man. My senior year, bro. Uncle Ocho, we were ranked nationally. Just a public school, Little Rock Central. We were ranked, like, number eight, number nine nationally. So we. We had a nice team. We were number one in the state. We played against North Little Rock, who was number two in the state. We split in the regular season, but the. The game that we lost to them during the regular season, I had pneumonia So I didn't even get to play. So when we met them in the championship game, it was a big. That's probably our biggest rival outside of them in the team called a school called Parkview. When we met them in the championship game, man, the first quarter, the score was like 24 to 4. That's how much we was beating them. Out of the first quarter, we was up 24 to 4. And it was bad, bro. It was bad because throughout that whole week, the news was at our school. We going at them then they'll go to North Little Rock. Now they talking about us. So the rival,

[Joe Johnson]

they kept building.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

So by the time we got to the game, hell, we were ready to go. Yeah, we ended up beating them, boy, by, like, I think about, like, 25, 30. That's what I do remember from that. And my senior year was special, bro. It was special.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe. Go ahead, Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, you know what I'm thinking about? Yeah, Arkansas, Pine Bluff. Yeah, man, we played them when I was at Langston.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

I just thought, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think y' all in the same conference as them.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, man, we play. We play Arkansas, Pine Bluff. I mean, I won.

[Announcer]

I was.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I can't remember. I was a rookie that year. I mean, I just remember Matthew Hatchet, who played for the Minnesota Vikings, was on the team with me back then. Quarterback Kevin Johnson and Waylon Jones. I ain't seen them boys in so long.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Yeah, they used. They keep. They used to keep a, you know, a nice little team. I hadn't kept up with them in a while, but they normally have a decent little football team.

[Joe Johnson]

All right, this is our last and final one of the Discord. Let's take a listen. What they had to say. What's up, ISO? What's up? What's up, Ocho, man, you know you're my boy, right? Your jokes be cracking me up, man. I hope you keep coming with them, man. And just to let you know that you my boy, Ocho. That thing that happened to you when

[ISO Joe Johnson]

you was in high school, man, I

[Joe Johnson]

want you to know I've been looking for him ever since. And guess what? I found him. My man. I got this old back for you, my boy. I got that Zo back for you, my boy. So you ain't ever got to worry about things again. Revenge is sweet. And I got it for you, my boy. Y' all have a great night. And, Ocho, you never gotta worry about that. Zoe Dean, Man, you got people down there looking for that. So that did you bad on show.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, man, Listen, man, that way, hey, that's way back and got there 1992, man, that. That don't. That don't make me. Not no more, you know, it is what it is. Hey, that's a good one, man. I appreciate that, young bull. I appreciate that, baby. Appreciate that.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, TS Car Wash Detail Service. Ocho, who was the tallest NFL person in your era?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

The tallest NFL person during my time.

[Joe Johnson]

Ogden. 6 9.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

What position you played?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

J. O. Yeah, for the Ravens. What about. Wait, I'm trying to.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I played jail. Dan McGuire. Mark McGuire brother who's quarterback of the Seahawks. He was like 6, 8. 6 8.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He wasn't no good, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Nope. Hey lied though. No, he wasn't. Yeah. What's the guy from Denver? He was like 6, 7. That came after Brock Osweiler from Memphis Plumber. No, no, no, no, no.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Osweiler.

[Joe Johnson]

No. Oswald. Oswald came from like Arizona, Arizona State, something like that. Nah, but the one that came after him, what was the quarterback name? Ash. Chad. Who's the quarterback in Denver after Osweiler?

[Announcer]

Why are we trying so hard?

[Joe Johnson]

So I can breathe. Why do you need to breathe? So I can think. If I can breathe. If I can breathe, I can think. I can think. If I can think.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

If I can think, then I can win.

[Joe Johnson]

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[Announcer]

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[Joe Johnson]

Why?

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[Joe Johnson]

I can't think of his name. Pastor Paxton Lynch. Pastor lynch was like 6 tall. Yeah, he like 67.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I ain't know.

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't know that. Look at man, we about to block y'. All. We about. I'm about to block everybody. Y' all mentioned Rossini or VA again and we put it together. No, we not talk that. I don't care nothing about that. Who Mike V in that situation. I don't care nothing about that. Man, we ain't no gossip show here. Nothing. You know what happened M. Y' all better talk about Din and Mike and Mike bra. We not man. I don't do. We don't do the tabloid. What y' all want us to say man? Nothing. You read about it tomorrow. J1984 out been active on here for a while now just using it this but ocho ISO love what y' all doing and congrats on 2 million. Much love. Thank you Jay. We appreciate that because it doesn't happen without you. All the subs, all the views, all the. All the. The retweets, the downloads, the listen tools. Man, we cannot thank you enough because like I said, Nightcap success is not possible without the fans. L pray 98 ocho start bench cut Christian Nicoya Eric Dickerson. Barry Sanders.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

All right, that's easy.

[Joe Johnson]

That's easy. Of course you ain't going no further.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Barry Sanders.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm gonna start Barry and Christian Accord.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You know I love the Nigerian nightmare, but come on now.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Carson Deck big three. What's up? I had to change my name. I used to go by Lab20 Casey subscribers since 4th 10/4/2023. I am 28 years old entrepreneur. I was hoping you could give my cards show a shout out. You're a 28 year old entrepreneur? I don't know what. Lab K. Lab 20 Casey. Subscriber. I don't know what you do, bro. That would have helped if you. But I guess. Go check out Lab Lab 20 Casey. He's an entrepreneur. He's 28 year olds. He's an entrepreneur. Entrepreneur. And he's hoping that he gets some. Somebody will see his card and can hire him for his services. Even though we don't know what those services are.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, I see. I see it now.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Yeah,

[Joe Johnson]

the grown people.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, man, that's every man. Come on. I thought something. You got me thinking something serious happened.

[Joe Johnson]

No, ain't nothing serious happen. People just like to talk. Talk about gossip. Hey, when I saw that thing, when it came across, when it. I was on. On social media last night, I was like, oh, oh, okay.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, so many of those stories, like in one ear, out the other, next.

[Joe Johnson]

Exactly. I did cast chat. Can you tell a quick story about the baddest one you lost and was it your fault? Love the show. Baddest one you lost, Ocho. Was it your fault?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Wait, baddest? Bad as who?

[Joe Johnson]

That bad? You know, one of them 12 lost. Oh, oh, oh.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I mean, listen, listen, listen.

[Joe Johnson]

It.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

It's always.

[Joe Johnson]

Was it your fault, man?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

It was. It's always my fault, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

At least you can be honest. That's what I like about my homeboy. Gonna tell you the truth.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

My fault. But it's one thing about that. It's one thing about that seat on, boy. It's always another way. It ain't too hard to catch, especially when you got.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Hey, we all probably let a. You know, a couple get by.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, it's cool.

[Joe Johnson]

I have the right line.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You know what I'm saying?

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

I have a strong little line.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, he shook that. He shook that hook out.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, I tell you what.

[Joe Johnson]

What for everyone.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I did lose that. Thought I was a problem.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They still going through the same.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I mean, I'm just saying.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Y'. All. Y' all already know, man. I let it go. You know. Y' all already know. Y' all already know that. Is that. Yeah, but I tried, Chad. Y'. All. Y' all know I try. Y' all know y' all here without the trying, man. I just.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, everybody got a vice.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. My vice is cigars. Yeah. I just hadn't settled down.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm in a good space, Joe.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Me too, O. Joe, me too. I ain't gonna lie to you.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm in a good. Hey. Huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, me too. I'm In a good space. A nice tight space. You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying. Oh, my bad. But a good spot.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Good. Hey, I'm in a good. I'm in a good space, Joe, you know, I'm. Man, like, really, like, you know. Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we see. I mean, you, I mean, you, you know. You know, you that proud of you, like, you know, yeah. She go get your little food. You're like, babe, can you give me something? She bring it back. You know what you want. Yeah, I was like, damn.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Hey, see, when. When you get a little older, you know, you, you, you cut the chase out. You know what I mean? See, back when we probably in our 20s and 30s, you know, out there chasing dog, chasing a cat.

[Joe Johnson]

You hear me?

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Y' all know what's going on.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look, it was. I'm an apex. I was an apex hunter.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, you want worse than me.

[Joe Johnson]

I, I know, but I was trying. You know what I'm saying? Don't you? I, I do. I, I, I, I. Look,

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe. Joe. I would bet. Joe, Joe.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Okay, we ain't got to talk about too much, but check this out. Was it because you just got bored

[Joe Johnson]

quick,

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

you know, like. Because, you know, like, it ain't nothing like that. New. New, you know, I'm talking about, you meet somebody new, y' all can have a good time. Is it. But when you get bored, you know, you start to do things that you know you probably shouldn't do in a relationship.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

It ain't even bored, Joe. It's just the, the fact that I had access. I had many, many, many, many, many, many, many options.

[Joe Johnson]

You had many, many millions.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that too. But listen, and the funny thing about it, Joe, even with having, Even having the money side of it, what makes it easier and getting. And having access. I still want to spender. Yeah, that, that's, that's well known. I'm not spinning. And so you're not coming in and dealing with me.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Yeah, you ain't had to be a spender.

[Joe Johnson]

They.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

They know what's going on now.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, you already gone, so, I mean, it's something about new. Except that some, that the, the excitement, the adrenaline rush, the feeling of the unknown, the chase, being able to conquer. There you go, you know, trying to. Jumping through those hoops that they, they love to pretend like, oh, I'm gonna make you work. You finna get something. You know, stuff like, I mean,

[Joe Johnson]

No,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

no, no dis, no disrespect. No disrespect, Joe. It's like. Like there are certain games. Women know who to play certain games with. Some of us. Some of us have time to waste and some of us don't. You know, you playing. Okay, boom, on to the next. Like that game you playing. Let him. That has no options. Deal with that.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

But you don't know, y'.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

All.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

As men, we are natural hunters. You know what I'm saying? That, that, that's, that's. That's in our nature. You know what I mean?

[Joe Johnson]

So.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

I know what you're talking about, Ocho.

[Joe Johnson]

I do.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

I'm glad you.

[Joe Johnson]

But you know, Ocho, you know, hey, that's the oldest.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

You didn't tame that dog. Now, wait.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No, no, no. I've been tamed. There's a difference.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay?

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Yeah. Huh?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Because you ain't never seen it. You ain't never seen a lion or a tiger tame itself. It always had a trainer.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You hear me? It take the right one. Praise God.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, I just. I can't get around like.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I can't get around like I used to. You know, I. I just think for me, I look back on it, I was like, okay. And you think you're like, okay. How different my life would have been had I did this. And I. Like I said, I think, Joe, you. And I said this is that. I know one thing I would have done differently is that I've had the kids just one. That's what I would have done. It cut down a lot of headaches earlier, earlier in my career, but it

[Commercial Voice]

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[Joe Johnson]

you have the access and just like it just had to have, it had to have her.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Hey, if you see, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

What? Nothing.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

If you seen something out you like I got, I got, I got to have that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

It ain't none to it.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, ain't nothing to it. Yeah, I, I.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And now you know, Uncle Joe, I don't think people understand how difficult, how difficult it is. It's, everyone always preaches and, and they, they, they, they talk and say all the right things. But when it really comes down to it, everything that we're taught is counterproductive to what human nature is, what it is just to be, just, just to be natural. I think that's why so many struggle with discipline in certain areas of life. And we always look back the similar incident that people want what everybody to talk about. I mean, everyone continues to struggle in the same department regardless of what it is you do, regardless of what corporate job you have in all walks of life, we see the same examples keep happening over and over and over.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Why?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Because what we're trying to do and what we're taught to do, it's not natural. That's why everybody keeps effing up. And then, you know, you have to put on a certain image. You have to act a certain way. But behind closed doors, what's everybody doing? The same. The same thing.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

It's hard, man. Joe.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

I know.

[Joe Johnson]

I was like a Kenya run. I ran as fast as I could, as long as I could. I'm out of gas now. I was like the legendary kill keno. Can't run no more, fellas. TS car wash detail service.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Unk.

[Joe Johnson]

Have you ever met Kellen Winslow? Absolute. Met Big Kale, probably around my first and second year in the league at the Super Bowl. And he was. Been a mentor, someone I can talk to about anything. Had great insight. Him Ozzy, and rest his soul, Todd Christensen. Because those are the guys that I saw a lot of it like, okay. They caught a lot of passes. Big time playmakers. And that's what I. That's why. That's how I envision myself. So I know. I know Big Kale very well. Lady Ray. Hey, guys, I can't think of a good question tonight. So here's a joke. What do the dentists call X rays? Toothpicks.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That's a good one. That's a good one. I like.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay, lady.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That's a good one.

[Joe Johnson]

I see you. I be. I see you stole Ocho joke book. It's Maddie. I'm glad Johnson was able to set his phone aside to engage with us for two hours. King ISO, can you explain how does one get to the chicken?

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

How does one get to the chicken? Meaning? Yes, meaning he got a bag. Meaning he. He has array of things that that he or she can do on the court. You know what I mean? Like that when we say get to that chicken, it means, hey, it's a cookout and everybody's invited. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Ain't no stopping this hip partner. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

J1984 out ISO and still ocho love y' all the most hardest people the mo. The most hardest person y' all had to go up against for uncle and oo. What was the hardest you've ever been hit? Joe? Who's the hardest person you ever had to go?

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

The hardest person I had to go up against,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Probably me.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Hell no. I see I always equated to cats who I played against in the playoffs. Unc and Ocho. You Know, because in the playoffs, we know your plays. You know our plays. You know when I'm gonna get the ball. I know when you gonna get the ball? It's about. Can you stop it? And, bro, when I. We played against that Miami Heat team, bro, with Braun D. Wade and Chris Bosh, man, them dudes was different.

[Joe Johnson]

But you played against Braun also, Joe, when he went back to Cleveland, and y' all was the number one seed, right? Who were you?

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Were you. No, no, I wasn't in Atlanta. I was gone then.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Yeah. Nah.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay. Because they had what, like, 60. 60 games and they had, like, four guys in the office.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Well, they put a. Hey, they. They. The Cleveland came here and put on a mean demonstration in the playoffs. Yeah. Kyrie Braun, Kevin Love, they was shooting a cover off the ball. I already know what you're talking about. Yeah, I wasn't on that team, though. Nah, I wasn't on that team.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

But yeah, they. Hey, hey, dude, I ain't gonna lie. Brian been a handful, bro. He been a handful. I played against him a few times in the playoffs, and, you know, he always had one of them games to. That just. Just separate him from everybody else.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that's a LeBron toe. I mean, when you name a city after a guy. LeBron. The LeBron Raptors. I don't know. Ocho. Ocho. Talk about that Brian Russell hit. Yeah, I've had some hits. I mean, Brian Russell got me also. Gary Jones hit me with the jets, man.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

You ain't see him coming?

[Joe Johnson]

Nope.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Them the worst ones, ain't it, man?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. And I was running and I cut up inside, and he was coming from me inside and hit me. Damn. My mofo head split my shield like a windshield crack.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Damn. It was no penalty or nothing back then, was it?

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, hell no.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hell, no.

[Joe Johnson]

You hit somebody in the head, man, please ask. Chat. Chat. Do I res. Do I choose the woman that I have the strongest social connection but fading attraction, or the woman with weaker social connection but the strongest physical attraction? Choose the woman that likes you, not the woman you like.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Took me a while to learn that, huh? Took me a while to learn that, but I did.

[Joe Johnson]

It does. Choose the one that likes you. Social connection. I. I'm trying to figure out, what does he mean, social connection? Like, if they go out, if they

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

do things, they have a good time.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we have a good time. We go to the movies or we get together with family, friends and loved ones. We can have it in black. But I'm not as attracted to her. Or the one that I'm really, really strong. Bro, you not gonna spend all this time in the bed.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, unless you're a teenager. And then. And at some point in time, that's gonna. Bro, I'm telling you.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And get old.

[Joe Johnson]

You want someone that you know you can go out with, you can have a conversation with, and you could. Hey, walk. Hey. I'm going to the bar. I'm going over here. And she can hold her own in the conversation, and she ain't looking for you. But, man, well, you. Why you left me talking to all these people. You want somebody that can hold their own, they can hold a conversation. They can stand alone with you being gone 10, 15, 20 minutes. But you also want that person that you attract. Like, damn. Oh. Oh. Cause I don't care about the first. I just know I'm the last.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

That's all I say. Ojo. I don't know about the first. I don't know nothing about that. I didn't know. Look here, can we just sit on the couch and just watch tv? Can we find something that, you know. You ever seen this? Let's watch it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, Is it. Oh, boy. Ain't nothing worse. Always out every night, out on the weekends, out on boats, turning, popping bottles.

[Joe Johnson]

I hate that boy. I need to be. I used to be this guy. Oh, he. He did this, he did that.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

I said, where is he?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And, you know, anytime they talk about what it's always he used to do. It's always. It's always past tense, ain't it? Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I said, well, where is it?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

All right,

[Joe Johnson]

But because you notice, guys, I, I don't. I, I. I don't want to speak, but I'm saying I can't recall me ever being in a relationship and saying, this is what my ex used to do with for me. I've never brought that up, but women are. Oh. The last ninja I was with. Oh, yeah. Well, damn. Why you leave if he did all that? Y' all going to Tulum and Turks and Caicos and y' all in the Maldives. You know, he doing this. X, Y, and Z. Why are you here? Yeah, I'd be confused. I was confused, Ocho, because

[ISO Joe Johnson]

they know what it is.

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't going none of them places.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

The person. The person that's doing all that understand that you are just for fun.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that's it. I mean, those type of dudes that do all that, right? And it's always, always right off the back, too, Uncle Joe. It's always right off the bat. They know. They see you. You the fun girl. How do you not know that?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I hate to break it to you. He's still doing that, just not with you. He's still doing it. He's. He probably over there tomorrow.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Right now.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

The game is a game, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Jamaica, Cancun or, you know, Rios, wherever the place they'd be going. I don't know where they be going, but I'm just saying you just gotta

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

play it depending on how you play it, huh, Ocho? The game is a game.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, the game is the game. I mean, I. I wish someone would understand. I mean, you. You should know the difference when you're just a fun girl or not. I mean, you get excited about the trips. I mean, the trips are just, you know, you take you somewhere, obviously, you know, it's. It's to do what? You know what? You know, you get your little heels, you get your little purse, and then they send you on your way until it's time, until it's your turn again. And the cycle just continues to repeat itself over and over, and it really goes nowhere. But the monetary gifts is just enough to keep you. To keep you. It's like. It's like giving a. Giving a bird breadcrumbs.

[Joe Johnson]

People keep coming back.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

It keep coming back. And it's. It's small stuff, you know, get a little cat, a little cash here, you know, nice heel, nice purse. And that in the cycle just keeps going. Especially when it's someone that really got money on. Yeah, you could play that game with multiple women at a time and they content.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. I was like, man, yeah, bro, ass chat. Obviously you want somebody. It's kind of hard because we're physical creatures. Men are very, very physical. We, we see, we're very visual. We're very, very visual creatures. We see women want that mental connection. I want somebody I can sit on the couch and talk to. And you know, he could. Oh, he could do all this. Men like, woo. Oh my God. We got bible here. You know what I'm saying? But bro, at the end of the day, get you somebody that you can have a conversation with, man, because you ain't gonna be in the bed. You ain't gonna be in the bed that long, Jay. Hey, when the knee gone, when are we gonna be ready so we can see all the pool table ISO. When you get on that pool table, tell Ocho to put his crown up and get that. He.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

First of all, he. His crown fugaze anyway, you know, you weren't anointed by the people. I was anointed by the people.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey. I was anointed by the man that sit high and look low.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

No, no. Now you are. Now you won't. Hey, hey.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

But.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

But.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, but I like that, though.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

If you want to put that little crown up, you know me and you in the game of pool. Cause I know you can't shoot no pool. I could tell. I could just tell you ain't got no touch.

[Joe Johnson]

Ocho, he said you really put that crown up.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Wait. Didn't know what the crowd cost me 15. Hell, no.

[Joe Johnson]

What? Josie, that's. That's what I want you to put

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

it up that way.

[Joe Johnson]

That's the one he wants.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

When I win it, I could just put it up. I ain't never got to see you wear it again. You can never wear it again, ever. You can't go buy another one.

[Joe Johnson]

None of that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Bet.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What you want to do?

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Whenever we all get together.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I mean. I mean, we waiting on nothing.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Hey, hey. We know we ain't in no hurry.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, I'm. I'm in a hurry because I'm. I'm.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm ready.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm ready to put built bta. I'm ready to put built ass.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

I know you can't shoot.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You've been. You've been doing too much, too much, too much of this.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

And I know you can't shoot no pool. You already know when. When Lights, camera, action. When they. When they come on. You already know how I perform. Oh, go, Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You done seen me. You done seen me with the lights on, Joe. You don't see me with the lights on when it come to things that I actually do, Joe.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. Chat see my work. Nightcap outside. Chat seeing my work. Do I. Do I need. Do I have to bring it back up? Do I need to remind y'?

[Joe Johnson]

All? You ain't gotta break back up, Joe. You ain't gotta bring it back up. Jay, a junior underscore. Cool cat. What's up, gang? Congrats on all the success, and we're on the road to 3 million. Which sport would you least want to be an official in?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Pocky.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Hell, yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Cause you mess around and punch me now. Now we got the square.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. You got to be an official. So you're a referee.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh. Oh, you want to be an official?

[Joe Johnson]

No. What sport would you least want to be an official? Hey, you.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

You got to know how to skate.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, you don't want to be. Yeah. You don't I mean, why you don't want to be an official in hockey?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Breaking up fights? Got time breaking up fights, man, all

[Joe Johnson]

they do wants to hit. Once they hit the ice, break it up. Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

You know you can't ice skate.

[Joe Johnson]

Ain't nobody stepping in, you know he can't ice skate.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Joe, I can skate.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Joe, you can't ice skate.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I can roller skate. I can ice skate. I can skateboard. Joe. I do all those activities. Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Joe, you ought to roller skate.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn, Joe, you was in the country that I had a skate ring.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Yeah, we got a skate ring, man. Hey, look, I go to Cascade sometime out here, boy, but I'mma tell you something.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, do you?

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Cascade? Ain't nothing nice on a Sunday. You can't be out there thinking you just going to learn.

[Joe Johnson]

No, no, no. They didn't really skate over there.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

They gonna tell you, put that blink on, get your ass out. Get, get, go and get up out of here.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they'd be out there like, roll, bounce.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Yeah, me and my. I take my girls, I take my lady. We out.

[Joe Johnson]

We.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

We used to go, man, at one point, we were going like once a week, like, for probably about six months straight. We kind of tape it off. But, yeah, hey, they'd be getting it,

[Joe Johnson]

that they'd be banging. They be getting it. They'd be out there leading with that thing, man.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Hey, when I was a kid, Uncle Ocho, my Aunt Sherry, who I was talking about, she a military lady, she used to take us. She used to take me and her kids skating every Sunday, bro. Like, this was routine. I'm telling my man. Best times of my life, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. They would have a skating rink in Statesboro. I could. I just couldn't. I mean, because I didn't have. I didn't have me things that I'm good at. That's all I want to do. I don't want to take the time to try to get good at.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You know what I'm saying? So everything that I was good. Everything that I did, I was good at. I'm talking about just move. I think I'm going to, but if I got to practice, four, five a month, two, three months, not. Hell with that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I can't think. I started skating. Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

My mama.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe. And my mama was really, really good on them. On them eight. Yeah, I'm talking about really good. She was smooth with it, too. So when I. When I got to LA with my grandma, obviously. Well, listen, you got to go live with your mom in la. The friends. Friends of mine. That I met in la. They took me to World on Wheels. So I started skating in 97 at World on Wheels. I forgot what the session was. Obviously, World on Wheels is not there anymore. And then when I got to Cincinnati, those four years there, I spent, obviously I started skating, got, got much better. And in Cincinnati, I think we used to go to Skate Town after every home game. I think, I think it was called Skate Town usa. If anybody in the chat in Cincinnati, we actually go to that session every time after every game because I think it was 1711.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

It's a workout, though. There ain't no that. That's skating.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, after that game, it worked good, too. Getting that, getting that soreness out. Get that soreness right up out of it so you don't feel as bad the next morning.

[Joe Johnson]

No.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

And now I got old. Now I already know. Ain't nothing but another hip replacement ACL or something like that. I, I, I ain't messing with it. Richard Wright fan, Atlanta Braves A and the Angels gave us a preview of Ocho and ISO throwing hands. Picture with high inside with a fastball. And the Battle charged the mound. Both throwing hand punches and. And ain't hitting Nathaniel the pitch ball in his hand.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Yeah, I've seen that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I saw that.

[Joe Johnson]

I thought he was gonna throw it. I thought he was gonna throw it at one point. Like, baby, man, you throw this ball, you ain't.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

He tried to knock him. He was trying to knock buddy upside his head with that ball.

[Joe Johnson]

He was trying to hit it with it. He stabbed your.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He caught him a little bit. The helmet blocked it a little bit.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, Joe. This one is for you, Joe. Kaleidoscope 1. King ISO, what are your thoughts on Little Rock hoop legend Drew P. Balls calling it a career last week?

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Droopy Balls. Who was that?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Drew.

[Joe Johnson]

He. Drew P. Yeah. See, you trying to be funny.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That's a good one.

[Joe Johnson]

That was funny, Rob, for me. ISO Ocho, do you have a relationship with your father? If not, who taught you how to be the father you are to your kids?

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

I had a relationship with my, I didn't, man, I didn't really have a relationship to my, with my pops until I was 26 years old. I was already six years in the NBA. He had been incarcerated in and out. You know, my childhood. He, I, I mean, hell, my junior high, high school games, I never, he never was at none of them. And who taught me how to be a father? I think not having one taught me how to be one, you know what I mean? Because I Think as a kid, bro, it does something to you, whether you know it or not. Especially a young man and a young woman, you know, if you don't have that father figure around. So, you know, when I started having kids, it was no way in hell I was gonna let them be running around here, and I ain't in their life. You feel me? Because of what I went through. Yeah,

[Joe Johnson]

Ocho.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Shoot for me, Pop. My pops was. Pops was a rolling. I'm not rolling stone, but pops was. So he was incarcerated. Really? Really. My whole life, huh? He was incarcerated and he got out. By the time my pops got out, he missed everything. When I was a child, as a child, all the way, I was already in. In New England.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn. Really?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Well, Pop, I mean, y' all be thinking I'd be capping. Pops was big time down here in Miami, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, so he got out when I was already in New England. I flew him to a game, obviously. Grandma, mama, why don't. Why you doing that? I mean. I mean.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Yeah, my daddy, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, you know, I didn't want to see who, you know, who he was. He passed away.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Same here, bro. Because when he. When my. When my pops got out of prison, I done so much for him. I got him a car, got him a place to stay. And, boys, a lot of people who from around the way did not like that. Do you hear me? I'm talking about. Nah, they ain't. They ain't like that because they felt he wasn't there. You know, Mind you, where I. Where I'm from and where my dad from, that's literally a seven minute drive. No more than that. You know what I mean? So, yeah, it was. It was a lot of people that. That.

[Joe Johnson]

That.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

That talk bad about my pops behind that. But I wanted, like. Like Ocho said, I wanted to see what type of person he was. I wanted to see his mannerisms. I want to see what type of dude he was. Yeah, I got a chance to experience that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

But my. My mama ain't play that, boy. Hey, Sam. Hey, you think. You think. Is that stuff still on record? Like, for Woody went to jail for when he came out, even. Even though he passed away.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, you probably could pull it up, Sam.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Sam Brown senior, somebody. I mean, I'm sure Chad, y' all good at finding stuff. As good at finding stuff. Sam Brown senior, he was released in, I think, 2009, 2010. From my overtown. From overtown Miami.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

He still living ojo now.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He passed away. He passed away. He passed away hey, Joe. I ain't got nobody left, Joe. My pop's gone, Grandma gone, my mama gone. So it just. It just. Shoot, hell, it just.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Oo.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You ain't.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Me and you in the same boat, partner. Oh, you keep paddling.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, I got it now. I got it. Hey, I got. I got the ship. The ship floating now, man.

[Joe Johnson]

I just talked to my uncle today. I got an uncle. He just turned 99. My dad's brother, he's the oldest. He's the only one. He's the only one. Not another brother made it past. My dad died at 39. One of his brothers died at like, 43. And the other one might have. I think he died at 49, but he might have made it to 50. He's the only one. He's the only one. Only one to make it 95 years old, he's like, hey, Shannon. Because I called his wife Margie, and she answered the phone, and I was like. I said, marge, this is Shannon. She's like, hey, how you doing? I said, I'm fine. We talked for a minute. I say, where's up? He's laying right here. And she gotta say, richard, it's. It's Shannon. It's Shannon Sharp, you know, hey, one look like, Pete, that's my dad. That's my daddy's name. But we talked for, like. Still got his mind. He's still sharp. I asked him how he's doing. He's like, I'm doing. Yeah, you know, I'm doing. But for me, I would have loved. I would. I don't care what my dad. I just. I just wanted my dad. Because, you know, when you see people and if they got their dad, my mom. My mom would come to the game, what I'm saying, to have your dad. Because my dad was going to be on the sideline. I don't know about everybody else, man, but. But. But Pete Sharp was gonna be on the sideline.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Because I would have did every. Everything. Everything that I did for my mom, who was always in my. In our life. I'd have did exactly what my dad, he got a car, he got a house, he got every everything. Because that's. At the end of the day, my dad. And you don't know the reasons why somebody, you know, chose not to be around sometimes that's not always their choosing.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

But for whatever reason, I ain't got. I don't care. You here now. That's all I care about. And I'm. I'm gonna love you. I. We ain't got to talk about why you weren't there. We're gonna start right here. And we going this way. We ain't finna go start here, right? Go back. We start here and going that way.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Because I never asked those questions neither, so I never asked why you weren't here. Why I just enjoyed one. Yeah, once he got out, bro, we just kind of took off. He the one taught me how to play ping pong. You let him tell it. Oh, I was a ping pong champ down there in the junk. They couldn't mess with me. He taught me how to play ping pong. And boy, look, once I could beat him, it was a rap.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, you think?

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Oh, nice, Ocho.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Okay, we. We gonna. We gonna see. See, ping pong was your pops. My pop's thing was that goddamn pipe and scars, Joe. Hey, hey, when he got out, he ain't want nothing. He ain't want nothing, man. I just want you to give me some pipes, some tobacco, and give me some cigar, man. We used to go smoke. I never forget.

[Joe Johnson]

We used to. Prince Albert. So he's smoking that Prince Albert in the can, huh?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, we used to go smoke at David's Cafe on 17th and Meridian. I never forget. 17 Meridian. On. On the beach. Sit there, man. You know, I thought there was some good time. Boy, he came to a God. He came to a Patriots game.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And had to sit in that cold. I ain't do.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

He talked.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They say, man, don't you. Hey, don't you ever bring me out here. This again.

[Joe Johnson]

Your dad from Florida, man, He ain't been in no cold like that. My mom coming. My mom was in Chicago. My mom been in Chicago basically since she was like, 20, because she first went to New York, but been in Chicago since she was 20. So my mom used to the cold, right? Everybody can't go out there and sit in that damn cold in. In the Northeast. And, you know, I was in Greek, man, please suck my ass. Took my ass out there to Green Bay like the frozen death. Please. Zeta phenom. If Wimby chef would feed him more than once a day, he would have probably played through it. Still. Go, spurs. Go. I don't care what you feed Wimby. Wendy ain't gonna be Wendy. Y' all see Wimby structure. I see. We'll be structured. How big y' all think women gonna get? Women gonna be like Kareem.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No. Okay. He gonna be like kd.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You're gonna be like kd.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

I think they, you know, they See Giannis, because Giannis kind of came in like real skinny like that and he end up gaining all that muscle. But I don't see Wimby Frame being able to gain muscle like that.

[Joe Johnson]

No, I don't either. I don't either. Mike.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Mike.

[Joe Johnson]

What's up, Big three? I know you were saying great players don't let trash talk bother them, but sometimes it takes them to another level. Like ISO said. Think about the MJ story sometimes who got to bta. Yeah, but you think you trying to get him out of his game, you getting him, making him take his game to another level. You should have left one.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

You make him lock in. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes. Now he had to prove a point of view. The man kills on ISO. Watch all NFL games next season so you can stay on the show during NFL season. Man, I don't want to watch nothing but them cowboys.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Nah, man, I'll be watching. But oh, yeah, I'm gonna definitely watch my Cowboys now.

[Joe Johnson]

Take that ill. Oh, here you go. Peyton Pleasant Ocho, ISO being world class athletes who's likely to have, who likely had many once in a lifetime experience, how did you manage your time to improve on your mind?

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

How did I manage. How do we manage our time?

[Joe Johnson]

Yep. How did you manage or do you manage your time to improve on your mind?

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

I'm be honest, and this ain't no cap because I'm invested. But the yoga for me, bro, like getting. Having that hour, hour and a half to myself just to really meditate, think. And that's just on the things that maybe I got going on in life, you know what I mean? Or something I may be dealing with. That helps me out tremendously. So I do a lot of my meditating. You know, obviously when I'm. When I'm in yoga, things I'm dealing with.

[Joe Johnson]

It's. I mean, I used to do it, Joe. I used to take yoga three times a week. I used to do Pilates three times a week. Now I just, it's just hard for me to turn my mind off. It's just so hard for me to turn my mind off. And when I turn my mind off, I mean, I'm really trying to. I'm trying.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

Yeah. You know what it is for me, Uncle Ocho? I like to be. I like to put my body under, under that type of pressure on a day to day basis. Like, that's a challenge for me. You know what I mean? Right. You know, so, yes, that's. It's like, it's like my daily vitamin. If, if you would Say

[Joe Johnson]

you do a yoga every day.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

I go about four, four days out the week. I mean, it's. A lot of people can't do one one day out the week. Like, it's challenging. You have to work your way up to get to that many days out the week. But, man, it makes you stronger, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

J Andy the Don. Hey, Uncle. You see who showed up for voluntary workouts the first day? Ocho had all that energy saying the coach was doing too much, calling out, calling Lamar out. And guess who showed it, you know what? Up the first day.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He was showing up regardless because it was a new regime and he was still doing too much. Every quarterback shows up when there's a new regime. Common sense.

[Joe Johnson]

Dale sk1 did KD career start in Golden State? You gotta stop the hate. Four Western Conference finals, and he was losing to teams Braun was losing to in the finals. Braun was the second super team by the time KD went to Golden State.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Problem.

[Joe Johnson]

But here's the thing. KD was up 3. 1. KD was up 3. 1. I'm not saying K. I'm not saying kd. KD was well within his right. But you. It's a false equivalent that have been like. That would have been the same had go Golden State beat LeBron and then LeBron go join Golden State. What would y' all have said? See, I can see. Okay, let's just say for the sake of argument, Joe, here's a better analogy. When LeBron was a free agent, who put him out of the playoffs? The Boston Celtics. Now LeBron go join KD. Paul Pierce and Ray Allen and Rondo. What would y' all have said?

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

They'd be talking about him.

[Joe Johnson]

That's all people saying, bro, I hope y' all mad at me. Wendy, the one that said he would rather have at this present time ant man over kd. I'm. I'm missing something, bro. Now, when LeBron leaves a team, do they win more or do they win less or do they win the same? When LeBron left Miami, how would he do it? When LeBron left Cleveland, how would it do it? Asking. Just curious. Just curious. But you do know, like, when we have to evaluate players, you have to say things.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

He got. He gotta get the strap.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

When you evaluate players,

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

was that.

[Joe Johnson]

Joe,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I feel sorry for you when we play.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

I don't.

[Joe Johnson]

Do they realize, like, when you evaluate players, that was when you evaluate a player and you said, okay, X, Y and Z. Tell me the lie that I said. Kevin Durant joined the Golden State warriors after being up 3:1 on the Golden State Warriors. He went and joined a team that had just won 73 games. They won 73 games. They beat the Bulls record, which no one thought could ever happen. They had a unanimous mvp. You do realize there have only been one unanimous MVP in NBA history. Not Jordan, not Will, not Russell, not LeBron, not Shaq, not Kobe, not Bird, not Magic. Want one?

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

It's occurring

[Joe Johnson]

Steph Curry. So what? So how do we evaluate that if LeBron James would have went and joined the Boston Celtics after they knocked him out of the playoffs, y' all make it seem like he went to Miami. Do y' all realize that Miami got knocked out in the first round? Where was Cleveland? What was Cleveland doing before LeBron got there with all those number. You remember now, they got Kyrie, then they got Anthony Bennett, then they got Tristan, Thom, they got Anthony, Ben and Tristan Thompson in the same draft. And then they followed up with Andrew Wiggin back to back to back to back. Come on, guys. Look, if you don't like, I don't care. I get that. You can't deny he a bad mofo. You cannot deny it. You can't. No matter how hard you try to make it out with this guy, you can say whomever, okay? If you want to say LeBron is not a top five, top 10, top 15, ain't, don't deny it. He a bad mofo. Wherever you want to rank him, you could say. If you want to say Kobe better than him, you want to say kd, you want to say Steph, you want to say Jordan, you want to say Mike, Bird, Magic, whomever, the likelihood. If you ever see somebody doing what he did because people, oh, he's stat pad. Well, let me ask you a question. Why other guys don't be able to pad these stats if it's so easy? So everybody should just be able to roll out of bed and get 20 points, five rebounds, seven assists, easy. If that's all he's ever done. So why Nobody else average 28.67 and 7 for a career over 23 years. If it's easy, it's easy. To the casual person to that hadn't played sports, it's like say, well, anybody can catch a. Okay, if anybody can catch a pass Ocho, why.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Why they not out there doing it?

[Joe Johnson]

It's harder than you think. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite. There's my partner and co host, the Liberty City legend, the Tongue Fool Master. A Bingo. Great Provo Pro Bowler All Pro. That is Chad Ocho Cico Johnson and you see it bobbing and weaving. Getting getting his game on. Getting his game. He's a seven time NBA all star from the Atlanta Hawks and he's a Little Rock, Arkansas name. That is ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. And do us a favor, go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys for your support and your continued support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shade by La Portier head over to laportier cognac.com to purchase you a bottle. Remember, it is a premium VSOP Cognac. The smoothest, best tasting VSOP cognac on the market. Compare it against others and you'll see we have the best cognac on the market. Please, please drink responsibly and stay safe. Again, I'm un he's oo and that is ISO. We're done for tonight, but we'll see you tomorrow. Thank you guys.

[Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson]

For.

[Joe Johnson]

Sam.

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