Nightcap Hour 3: SGA CALLS OUT Luka AND Joker FANS + Dennis Rodman INDUCTED into WWE HOF + The Game’s DM’s EXPOSED

Summary

Nightcap – Episode Summary (Hour 3: SGA Calls Out Luka & Joker Fans + Dennis Rodman WWE HOF + The Game’s DMs Exposed) Date: March 21, 2026 | Hosts: Shannon “Unc” Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson, Joe “ISO Joe” Johnson

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Main Theme of the Episode

This episode of Nightcap delivers unfiltered, late-night sports talk with NBA, NFL, and pop-culture hot takes. The trio – Shannon Sharpe, Chad Ochocinco Johnson, and Joe Johnson – react to spicy NBA narratives (SGA vs. Luka & Joker fans), celebrate Dennis Rodman’s induction into the WWE Hall of Fame, clown around about notorious DM pickup lines (a la The Game), and field Q&A on everything from athlete egos to freaky marital advice. The conversation blends sports analysis, locker-room humor, and candid stories from superstar athletes.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. SGA Calls Out Luka & Joker Fans: Free Throw Fandom and NBA Hate

• [02:39–05:22]
  • ISO Joe brings up Shai Gilgeous-Alexander’s (SGA) comment: fans of Luka Dončić and Nikola Jokić never complain about their guys getting free throws, but whine when SGA gets to the line.
  • Joe reflects: “You’ll never hear OKC fan complain about my free throws... It’s just part of the game, SGA. You doing something right when fans start to complain.”
  • Unc says, “When you great, they coming at you, man” [04:02].
  • Discussion shifts to how LeBron is the most scrutinized, especially in the era of social media, noting, “LeBron was hated and look what he’s done for the game... it’s part of the game.”
• Quotes:
  • “Everybody in the history of the NBA has an arc where everyone loves and then everyone hates them.” — ISO Joe [02:56]
  • “When you great, they coming at you, man.” — Unc [04:02]

2. Elite Scoring and Free Throw Debate

• [04:30–05:56]
  • The crew defend SGA’s scoring methods, especially criticism about “foul baiting”.
  • “He knows how to manipulate the game… He can get 30 points a night and you know you can’t stop it.” — Unc [04:08]
  • Joe brings up Harden and Embiid’s high free throw rates, emphasizing left-handed “craftiness” in scorers like Harden, Ginóbili.

3. Dennis Rodman’s WWE Hall of Fame Induction

• [06:35–12:03]
  • Announcement: Dennis Rodman is entering the WWE Hall of Fame’s celebrity wing.
  • The group reminisces about Rodman’s 90s fame, his Madonna and Carmen Electra days, his eccentric style (hair, off-court antics), and his wrestling crossover with Hulk Hogan.
  • “How many matches he had for them to put him in the Hall of Fame?” — Unc [07:30]
  • Rodman’s impact: “Everybody knew who he was… Had his own shoe… and he still had his own shoe.” — Unc [11:57]
  • The gang riffs on 90s basketball kicks: LA Gear (Karl Malone), Pony, Converse Weapons.

4. NBA vs. NFL Culture: Practice, Coaches, and Lifestyle

• [09:57–12:03]
  • Basketball players “got more grace” than football players for going out or skipping practice.
  • Unc: “In football, every play is almost a career-ending play… Basketball ain’t like that. We ain’t wearing pads.” [11:25]

5. The Game’s DMs Exposed & Pickup Line Philosophy

• [17:15–21:16]
  • Discussion on The Game’s DM approach (“F3” for vending machine snacks pickup line).
  • Chad Ocho: “If you’re going for 20 jobs… you’re not changing your application. You’re going to use the same format.”
  • Blue-collar wisdom: “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.” — Unc [18:58]
  • Real talk about pickup lines, confidence, and Ocho’s approach: “My success rate was 98%... my personality will win more times than lead with money.” — Ocho [20:08]

6. Family, Kids & Parenting Real Talk

• [22:21–27:07]
  • Extended riffing on having more kids, costs of parenting, and generational approaches to families.
  • “Kids aren’t expensive. It’s what you choose to purchase for the child.” — Chad Ocho [24:47]
  • Jokes about being too old to have more kids, and benefits of spreading out child care among co-hosts.

7. Fan Q&A: Milestones, Passer Rating, Ego & Resilience

• [34:16–38:03]
  • Birthday shoutouts (“Live it up!” to March 21st birthdays).
  • Ego-humbling moments: Joe talks about ankle surgery leading to resilience; Chad on getting cut by the Dolphins: “There was no ego part of being hurt, but it was a great understanding… you might as well be at peace understanding you will never play again.”
  • Unc discusses Savannah State pride, the importance of supportive community, and teachers pushing him to be a better man, not just an athlete.

8. Martial Arts Movies & Pop Culture

• [40:35–43:34]
  • RIP Chuck Norris; favorite martial arts movies: The Karate Kid (Unc), The Last Dragon (Joe), Bloodsport, Enter the Dragon, Jet Li films.
  • Playful banter about fictional beatdowns: “I don’t wanna knock him out… just beat him down real good.” — Unc [44:03]

9. Locker Room Talk: Food, Old Flames, and “Groceries”

• [45:36–54:20]
  • Surgical detail on sexual preferences, joke suggestions about spicing up bedroom life (“Unc gotta, he gotta start sucking some toes…” — Ocho [49:11])
  • Joe brags about “experience” and “word of mouth”, Ocho shares wild stories, including a liaison with a 72-year-old woman at Soho House: “It was different. Now, over 50, they know exactly what they want.” [64:12]
  • Recap: “We all good, you already told Joe and I that you eat anything, so we’re not surprised.” — ISO Joe [55:38]

10. Biopic Debate & NBA Free Agency

• [56:11–58:15]
  • Best hip-hop biopic: unanimous vote for Straight Outta Compton, but All Eyez on Me & Notorious also get props.
  • 2010 free agency (LeBron goes to Miami), the biggest ever? The guys break down that seismic NBA summer.

11. LeBron Debates & Fan Love

• [58:15–60:13]
  • Unc ponders why nobody jokes about wanting to be loved as much as people love Kobe or Jordan, only LeBron.
  • “Maybe because Jordan never acknowledged his fans? LeBron has acknowledged me.” — Unc [58:38]
  • Gets into “if you get new facts, change your opinion” vs. sticking with old narratives.

12. Encouragement for Listeners & Finals Q&A

• [66:21–68:40]
  • Med school pep talk: “Your desire to be great has to be greater than your desire not to be… Everyone’s not going to be happy for you… I believe in me, I gotta prove myself right.”
  • More birthday shoutouts, engagement with super fans, and warmth toward Nightcap community.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On social media hate:
  “We can see who gets the most negative… and it’s been LeBron James like 10, 15 years running.” — ISO Joe [03:05]

• On SGA’s scoring:
  “Score 30 and shoot 50 from the floor — Jordan, Michael J. Jordan, Mike, MJ, whatever you wanna call him… that’s it.” — ISO Joe [04:50]

• On Dennis Rodman:
  “He could rebound the basketball and he could play defense… Scoring the ball was, yeah, you got eight points… but you was gonna get 50 [rebounds].” — Unc and Joe riff [08:43–08:54]

• On sports lifestyle:
  “In football, every play is almost a career-ending play… basketball ain’t like that.” — Unc [11:25]

• On love and LeBron:
  “All I want in life is for a man to love me as much as Shannon loves LeBron… Because DAMN!” — Dr. LA Brown, read by Unc [58:15]

• On ego and transition:
  “There was no ego part of being hurt, but it was a great understanding in that cell, reflecting… you might as well be at peace understanding you will never play again.” — Chad Ocho Johnson [37:19]

• On old flames:
  “Hey Joe, over 50, they know exactly what they want… and after you’re done, they’re gonna put you out the house… but they’re gonna send you home with some food, too.” — Ocho & Unc [64:14–64:27]

• On birthday milestones:
  “You gotta enjoy 29, cause 30 coming. But boy, 30 gonna make you appreciate your 20s, and 40 makes you appreciate your 30s.” — ISO Joe [34:35]

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Notable Segment Timestamps

• SGA, Free Throws, NBA Hate: 02:39–06:29
• Dennis Rodman WWE HOF: 06:35–13:12
• The Game's DM pickup lines & Pickup Philosophy: 17:15–21:16
• Parenting, Kids & Family Riffs: 22:21–27:07
• Q&A: Ego & Resilience: 34:16–38:03
• Q&A: Martial Arts/Pop Culture: 40:35–43:34
• Locker Room Relationship Advice/Humor: 45:36–54:20
• Biopic & NBA Free Agency Debate: 56:11–58:15
• Med School Pep Talk: 66:21–68:05

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Episode Tone

• Authentic, playful, and unfiltered — streetwise and big-brotherly
• Camaraderie, friendly teasing, willingness to talk both sports x sexuality x life
• Full of story-swapping, life lessons, and laughs — basically a late-night sports bar with legends

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For fans craving the raw, comedic, and unfiltered thoughts of pro sports legends, this episode is an absolute vibe, blending hoops, family, and NSFW real talk.

Transcript

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[Daniel Alarcon]

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Two active players giving you a real look at our lives and what we actually think on and off the court.

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[Miles Turner]

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[Freddie Rodriguez]

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[Wilmer Valderrama]

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[Freddie Rodriguez]

Our big breaks, our auditions, the near misses, the epiphanies, the moments that changed our lives forever.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

This season, we're deepening our relationships, creating collaborations, and the door always stays open

[Freddie Rodriguez]

for a third amigo to pull up a chair.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Listen to those amigos on the I Heart R radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

SGA says Lucas and Jokic fans don't complain about free throws when their favorite players get calls. But you'll never hear an OKC fan complain about my free throws. Y' all never hear Denver fans complain about yogic free throws. You'll never hear Laker fans complain about Luca free throws. It's just part of the game, sga. You're doing something right when fans start to complain. Everybody in the history of the NBA has an arc where everyone loves and then everyone hates them. LeBron was hated and look what he's done for the game is part of the game. I love it. It's stuff I dreamed about as a kid. And you're right.

[Unc]

Absolutely right.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I think the only guy. I don't think. Look, we don't have media. We didn't have social media. So there's no way to definitively tell. But it's hard for me to believe that Magic and Bird and Jordan was ever disliked to this level. Now, maybe in their perspective cities. Boston hated Magic Johnson, Laker fans hated Larry Bird. Knicks fan hated you. Hey, so we understand that, but for the totality of it. Nah, nah. And like I said, we can't defend him. No oo because we didn't have social media. So it would have been interesting to see if we can chart it. It just so happens that now we can chart it. We can see who gets the most negative, you know, stuff on social media. And it's been LeBron James like 10, 15 years running.

[Unc]

Yeah. Hey, when you. When you great, bro? When you great? They coming at you, man.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Come with the territory.

[Unc]

I don't care what it is. Just like what Shay was saying about the foul thing they talking about. He'd be foul baiting and all that, right? I don't think that. Well, I think. I just think he knows how to manipulate the game to where he can get to what he want. He can get his 30 points, 30 plus points a night and he know you can't stop it. And he now he may be shooting, you know, a high rate as far as Free throws, but he got plenty of game.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Unc]

So they acting like he can't. He can't average 30 points a night

[ISO Joe Johnson]

from the free throw line. Y' all better stop.

[Unc]

Yeah, yeah, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Shooting 50 plus percent from the damn floor. Do you know how many guards have actually shot that well from the floor and scored 30 points?

[Unc]

It ain't been a minute, bro.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Okay, I'll cut it off for you, Jordan. That's it.

[Unc]

That's it. That's it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Score 30 issue 50 from the floor. Jordan, Michael J. Jordan, Mike, MJ, whatever you want to call Ernest.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That's it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

To score that many points

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

and to

[ISO Joe Johnson]

shoot that high percentage from the damn floor.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Come on, man.

[Unc]

You gotta have your mind made up when you come into the game every night.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I don't care what he doing. He doing something right. He gonna be back to back MVPs. That speaks volume.

[Unc]

They gonna hate him even more. They gonna hate him even more.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

But everybody, everybody have that run. You know, James Harden had that run where he was shooting a bunch of free throws. Joel Embiid had that run where he was shutting to shooting a bunch of free throws.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, that goddamn James used to be killing that thing, right? That goddamn step back Joe.

[Unc]

Hey, he had.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

It'd be looking like he traveling, but he not.

[Unc]

He got a lot. I'm telling you, when you left handed,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I already feel like, yeah, man, they seem crafty as hell.

[Unc]

Yeah, they are, bro. Yeah. And that the fact that James left handed, can shoot, can get by his, man. He got an in between game. He can get all the way to the bucket. When he left okc, bro, he was thriving.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

It's just like Manu. You remember how crafty Manu was like that, Man, that left hand. It's something about a lefty, man.

[Unc]

Couldn't stop it. Couldn't stop it. Crazy craftiness.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Dennis Rodman will be inducted into the 2026 class of the WWE hall of Fame. This is nearly 30 years since he infamously skipped skip Bulls practice. Following game three of the NBA Finals, the Utah Jazz to opinion Pierre. On Monday, Nitro with Hulk Hogan. Robin will enter the WWE celebrity wing of the hall of Fame, joining likes like Muhammad Ali, Pete Rose, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Donald Trump, and Mike Tyson. We always talk about global fame, Michael Jordan, Alison, but how big of a cultural phenomenon, guys, was Dennis Rodman in the 90s?

[Unc]

He was a huge coach.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He dated Madonna at the apex of a career.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then it was different, huh? Yeah. When it came to the hair, the way. The way he played, the stuff he did off the court, Joe. Yeah, yeah, he was different.

[Unc]

He was different, boy. I mean, hey, hey. How many matches he had for them to put him in the hall of Fame, the WWE hall of Fame? How many matches he had?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

He.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He show me a couple, I think. Shaq. Shaq also wrestled Carl Malone, so there been a few.

[Unc]

Oh, yeah, he did. I think he did have a. Yeah, I think he had a match. Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. Damn, I. I don't remember that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, but now Rodman, he was as popular. He had a nice little roster, too.

[Unc]

Hell yeah, I didn't.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Didn't he? Oh, yeah.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Carmen Electra.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Nah, when she was. When she was at her apex, she

[Unc]

was like that, huh?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

She was small, but she was put together.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Flawless, huh?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Flawless.

[Unc]

All that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

So, I mean, okay, like I said, Madonna, when she was at an apex. And he had. He had a unique skill. He understood the game. He could play defense. He could do two things great. He could rebound the basketball and he could play defense. Yeah, yeah.

[Unc]

He gonna out hustle. You're gonna outwork you at an elite level.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Scoring the ball was. Yeah, you got eight points from you, like. Oh, my God, we got eight. But you was gonna get 50.

[Unc]

That's a bonus.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah,

[Unc]

and take his shoes off on the side old. I remember that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You were tripping, bro. But see, hey, hey, Mike. Mike and Scotty did they best keeping

[ISO Joe Johnson]

him practice and went to right with the wrestle Ocho in the finals. Imagine Ocho imagine somebody scooping a Super bowl practice to go wrestle.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, I wonder what they find him on.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I don't know.

[Unc]

Oh, no. I know they. They was peed off.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I know the NFL, they're gonna take your whole salary. They gonna take all your. They gonna take all. All your super bowl money. You ain't get no check.

[Unc]

Hey, listen, though. But that's why coaching matters. Because if it wasn't Phil Jackson, if it was somebody else who was less patient, who didn't have patience, like Phil Jackson.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, man.

[Unc]

Hey, man, get up out of here with all that. You know what I mean? But Phil knew Phil like you say, Phil knew he needed. He need to decompress a little bit.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Jordan was going to gamble in between finals games, playing 36 holes of golf. Joe Ocho imagine Tom Brady before the super bowl, and then he out there on a Friday night. Tom Brady at a casino. So the super bowl is in Vegas, and they got Tom Brady at the Venetian or the Wind Red Rocks or Somewhere at the black blackjack table.

[Unc]

Yeah, yeah. And that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That's different.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

The thing that basketball players could get away with, like. Like, on the way game, you know, you could fly. Like, you hear stories about. Harden would go to come to Vegas, or he would be able to go back to.

[Unc]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What I was like, damn. I start stretching myself out, could grow about another four, five inches.

[Unc]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cuz. Hey, hey, them teams sometimes because, you know, I played. I played in Houston with James for a few months, and Coach d' Antoni, who coached me when I was in Phoenix, when I played on that Phoenix team. He was a head coach in Houston.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc]

Hey, Oo. He used to give us two days off. He never give us more than two. Be like, y' all had the next two days off, right? Going to Vegas. Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Out there quick, huh? I see y' all get a little bit more grace. Cause y' all already, man, that money

[ISO Joe Johnson]

y' all making, fully guaranteed.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

It's fully guaranteed. I mean, that's what we call. That's that fu Money, Joe.

[Unc]

Well, I mean, it's a little different,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

you know, in football.

[Unc]

Every play is almost a career ending. Play.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Unc]

You know, I mean, basketball ain't like that. We ain't wearing pads.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

It's a little physical.

[Unc]

But we, you know, we. We ain't got no. Hell, man, no.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Now, but, but, but, Rodman, look, obviously you got your superstars, but for a guy that didn't win MVPs or things like that, for what he was able to do, Everybody knew who he was.

[Unc]

Had his own shoe.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, I remember.

[Unc]

Big man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Don't.

[Unc]

Don't typically have their own shoes. That man didn't even. He wasn't even. No score. Ocho. He still had his own shoe.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, but like, the sock. I mean, not. Not the sock, but the zip on the side, right?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What he had.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Didn't have a zip on the side.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Who? Robin.

[Unc]

I don't remember if it had.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, the Robin shoes.

[Unc]

I don't think. I don't know if it had a zip on. You might be talking about the glove. Gary Payton's.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Damn.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Carl Malone had LA gear. Didn't Carmelo had LA gear? What was Carl Malone shoe.

[Unc]

Yeah, I think. I think earlier.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I think he. With LA gear. Yeah, cuz, you know, LA gear had a shoe. Pony. You remember Pony? Oh, Joe used to have.

[Unc]

Yeah, cuz.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Fun. Well, wore ponies. He had them city wings.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I think Robert Paris, them had Pony.

[Unc]

Converse was the weapons.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Larry bird, Magic Johnson, Dr. J hey, hey.

[Unc]

What y' all know about them XJ9 hundreds from Payless, though? Y' all know nothing about them? Yeah, I used to get them XJ9 hundreds from Payless. My mom used to take me in there, get them XJ900.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

A collection of screenshots made his way.

[John Green]

I'm John Green. You may know me as the author of the Fault in Our Stars. And now, I guess also as the co host of the Away End, a brand new world soccer podcast.

[Daniel Alarcon]

I'm Daniel Alarcon, a writer and journalist, and John and I have known each other since we were kids. My first World cup was Mexico 86. I was nine years old. I watched every game and I fell in love. On our new podcast, the Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World cup for us.

[John Green]

Soccer. Football is a story we've shared for over 30 years, since Daniel was the star player on our high school soccer team.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Very debatable.

[John Green]

And I was their most loyal and sometimes only fan. I love this game. I love its history, its hope, its heartbreak, and above all the its beauty.

[Daniel Alarcon]

Together we'll find out why of all the unimportant things football, soccer is the most important.

[John Green]

Listen to the Away End with Daniel Alarcon and John green on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Miles Turner]

What's up? I'm Miles Turner.

[Brianna Stewart]

And I'm Brianna Stewart.

[Miles Turner]

And our podcast, Game Recognized Game has never been done before.

[Brianna Stewart]

Two active players giving you a real look at our lives and what we actually think on and off the court.

[Miles Turner]

Nothing's off limits. We talk trade requests.

[Brianna Stewart]

What's the vibe of that when it's like your star player is like, well, I want to leave and then actually now I'm going to stay. We talk tanking. I mean, honestly, like, I might get in trouble for this answer, but I think it's like, definitely happening in the wnba.

[Miles Turner]

And yeah, we talk about our mistakes too. They pulled me to the side and was like, hey, man, we got a call last night and you can't be rolling around the city like this tonight before games, you know, you know, doing this, doing whatever.

[Brianna Stewart]

And of course, family stories. They'll be like, mommy, why did you miss that? Mommy, do you play basketball? Check out Game Recognized Game with Stewie and miles on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Freddie Rodriguez]

Hey, I'm Wilmer Valderrama and this is Freddie Rodriguez.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Welcome back to Dos Amigos Dos Amigos Season two, baby. This time we're going even deeper into our careers, our lives, art, and everything in between.

[Freddie Rodriguez]

Each episode emanates from our very own speakeasy, where we swap stories about the moments that really shaped us on and off camera.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

What do we invest in right now? What is the immediate advice you give people right now?

[Freddie Rodriguez]

Is to value time, to be cognizant of time and how important time is. Because once the time is up, it's up and then that's it.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

And the relationships, collaborations, and even the failures that pushed us to grow. And the common denominator is that we have the same people with us since like 30, 40 years ago, right? Like, we have a lot of the same homies that stuck around.

[Freddie Rodriguez]

Plus the door always stays open for a third amigo to pull up a chair. Listen to Dos Amigos is part of the Michael Tuda Podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I'm Daniel Jeremiah.

[Greg Rosenthal]

And I'm Greg Rosenthal and this is

[Daniel Jeremiah]

40s and free agents.

[Greg Rosenthal]

The games may be over, but the NFL never stops. This is my favorite part of the calendar.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah, mine too, Greg. Free agency, the combo. The NFL draft, pro days, trades. This is where teams reshape their future.

[Greg Rosenthal]

This is where Daniel Jeremiah makes his money on 40s and free agents. We break down every move that actually

[Daniel Jeremiah]

matters, from my draft evaluations, mock drafts

[Greg Rosenthal]

and team fits to my top 101 free agents and how real rosters are built. Cap space, contracts and all the tough decisions included.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

You got quarterbacks on the move.

[Greg Rosenthal]

We got teams rebuilding its hope season.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Absolutely, it's hope season. We'll tell you what's real, what's noise and what it means for your favorite team.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Smart analysis, real conversations every week.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I don't know about the smart, but definitely analysis. Listen to 40s and free agents on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts

[ISO Joe Johnson]

online. Showing the game sliding DM the women Instagram in the DM the game opens simply F3. I don't know what that mean. To which the recipient often respond with confusion. The rapper would tell them, oh, ish, my bad. I saw a snack and thought this was a vending machine.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Okay.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Is now officially retired. We shot, we scored, we had a good run. But bigger, better things now. F4 coming soon. Oo be honest. What's the pick up line? Ooh, I'm looking like what the hell?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That's a good one. That's a Good one. Yeah, matter of fact. And that's exactly why everybody gonna respond. They're gonna respond to that. And, and people, you know, some, you know, you know, the women acting, acting creative, like, oh, he using the same line with everybody. Hell, if you're going for, if you're going for 20 jobs, right, Joe?

[Unc]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

And you're filling out 20 job applications. What you putting, you're not changing. You're not changing. You know what you're putting on each application?

[Unc]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You trying to get that job, right? So you're gonna use the same format feeding job that you qualify for.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, I don't know. I'm a fisherman, Joe. You fish before when you go fishing?

[Unc]

Yeah, yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You throw out there. So you got bait? Let's just say you fishing with wigglers, you fishing with worms. Red Louisiana pinks, night crawlers, you, oh, they biting. You switching bait? Hell no. You keep, you ain't all of a sudden to go to an artificial lure. A crank, a shad, a jig, a worm jelly. You ain't fishing with crickets. You ain't fishing with artificial lures. You ain't fishing with no, no, no meal worms. You gonna continue to. They biting. I change up.

[Unc]

There you go. Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

No point. Hey, if it ain't. But if it ain't, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. You hear that?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

All the time they gave shot up out. Oh, game. 38, 46.

[Unc]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Game must be on the sparks then. Sparks. Hey, I, Hey, I can understand why they be confused, cuz I, I, I had no idea what damn F3, F3 was. But that now, now that he said it, you know, that's what the vending machine. F3G.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, very catchy. Very catchy. That's a good, that's a good one. That's a good one. I'm surprised. I, I, I, I'm, I'm surprised. I ain't think about that back in my day, man.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc]

Oh, you had, you had, you had some good pickup lines.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, Joe. Hey, Joe. Boy, I had to get for gab, Joe, that one thing I could do is I could talk. Joe, you hear me?

[Unc]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Everything coming, everything coming out my mouth is a lie too. Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No firsthand.

[Unc]

There you go.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, listen, Joe. I'm gonna tell you everything you want to hear. You hear me?

[Unc]

Yeah. Huh?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I'm gonna tell you everything you want to hear, and I'll let I'm laughing at your drawing every time. Hey, hey. What? No, no, no, no, no. Lie. No Lie. Don't. Don't really got to spend nothing. You know, your personality. Your personality will win more times than lead with money.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They ought you crazy.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, Joe. Hey, hey. Sometimes you. Sometimes you ain't got to leave with no money. You only you don't need. You don't need some time.

[Unc]

Right? Right?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

No, sir.

[Unc]

You make a laugh. You can. You can almost make her do whatever, can't you?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yo, every time I'm talking about. I wouldn't I had. But my. My success rate was 98% of the time. And the percentage where it didn't go too well because they begged for something before I got something. No, sir.

[Unc]

No, no, no, no, no.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, no. Oh, no. It's time to refill that. That Sparks prescription.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, shoot. Okay, I'm ready. I'm ready.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. April, April.

[Unc]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. What I gotta go do? I gotta go subscribe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

We got you. We got you covered. Yeah, we gon you filling out. We got you coming. We got you covered.

[Unc]

Okay. Bet. Bet. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna see what they talking about.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey. You break bad record. You hit 84.

[Unc]

Hey, hey, hold on, hold on. Quiet is kept though. Quiet as kept. Well, I just ordered me two bottles at 750. That. That laportier too.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Okay.

[Unc]

Yeah, I ordered me two bottles of the day. They should be here a little bit,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

if you know what I'm talking about, Joe.

[Unc]

Yeah, so I'm away, you know.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Come on now. You can't. You can't. Don't. Don't hit that. And. And the road now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, Joe, you. How many points you trying?

[Unc]

Hey, yeah, I want to take it

[ISO Joe Johnson]

back to when I.

[Unc]

About 22, 23.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, you know what's gonna happen, right? Huh? You heard me.

[Unc]

What's going ever, Joe, you.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You. You won't be on that nine month program.

[Unc]

Hey, you need to chill, bro. Chill. Why you.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Why.

[Unc]

Why would you put that on me?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

It's not a bad thing, Joe. One more ain't gonna hurt.

[Unc]

Nah, I'm good. I'm good with my three.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I got. I'm good.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Me and Unc finna do it, you know.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Unc said marriage up. Ain't say nothing about no kids. Not damn. I'm joking.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I thought we was. I thought we finna get back in the oven.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I told you I like to practice. I don't want the coach to put me in the game. I coach. I'm just out here trying to get everybody good.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Look, okay, all right, well, you out. You out the game. Me and Joe. Me and Joe.

[Unc]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm out too. See, I'm with them. I'm out. Listen, I'm out. Hey, come on.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, Joe, one more won't hurt.

[Unc]

Yeah, well, yeah. Hello. You know the time it take, boy?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, you know what time the patience now, man. Hey, I don't have to pay.

[Unc]

I have.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Y' all know, I. I ain't the most patient person. I had to learn, boy. Look here. Whoo. Cause to get the kids and they running and screaming, and I'm used to peace and quiet and they just. Oh, up and down.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Right, right.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Who that running the house? Let's go here. Let's go to the. Let's go to Houston. Let's go to Six Flags. Let's go here.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, uncle, you need that, though. You need that, that, that. Hey, listen, that, that. That'll add like a spark to your life a little bit, man.

[Unc]

Hey, hey, listen, listen. I'm in there taking a nap today. My little four year old came in there throwing stuff at me and everything. I'm like, hold on. You know what I'm saying that. What type of time he'd be all

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

know, hey, you know, why she throwing stuff at you, Joe?

[Unc]

Why?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

She ain't got nobody her age to play with.

[Unc]

But that's. It's a boy.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

My.

[Unc]

My little son. No, he normally. He normally me. He normally. He played with me. Oh, Joe, I just need a nap.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Give a little brother, little sister Joe.

[Unc]

Now he got an older brother and an older sister.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

No, don't be selfish, Joe. Don't be.

[Unc]

I ain't being selfish. I got more than one.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Exactly.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Nah, it ain't not a joke. Hey, hey, God. Hey, it's in the Bible. It's in the Bible. God say, be fruitful, and I multiplied. What a thing. What in the Bible? Odd numbers is bad luck, bro. Huh?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Kids expensive.

[Unc]

Now, why are you acting like you don't know that?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, hold on, hold on, hold on. Listen to me. Let me tell you something real quick. When it. When it comes to people saying that kids are expensive. Kids, Kids aren't expensive. They don't know where they getting. Would you choose to purchase for the child? Can be cheap as hell.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

We know you're not purchasing anything, Are you purchasing cheap stuff for your kids? Exactly, that's my point. Hold on.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That's. Besides, now I'm trying to make a point. Don't mess up. Don't mess up my point. Hey, hey, the baby ain't Gonna know

[ISO Joe Johnson]

she wearing bubbles but you right? The baby don't, but mama does.

[Unc]

Yeah, there you go. That's why they got on polo.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They got on. They got on Air Jordans.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah,

[Unc]

he know what's going on.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He can play slow.

[Unc]

I know he know what's going on.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, think about this. Think about if all of us had kids at the same time. Think about the amount of deals we can get with. With Pampas, with Huggies, you know, with Oshkosh be Gosh, you know, it's all a part of nightcap. And we won't have to pay for nothing, though.

[Unc]

Man, we over here working on potty training. You talking about some dice. We trying to get about them diapers.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

How that's gonna look? Hey, I got. I got a kid.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

What do you mean, how it's gonna look? There are no rules to life. There are no rules that you have to follow.

[Unc]

Hey, that's pretty normal, though.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm older than my uncle.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, like, that's like D.C. young.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm good, I guess, but yeah, we're gonna get you take care of. Joe. We're gonna get you on the thing. I'll show you you up April 1st. Joe, we're gonna get you on. We're gonna get you on the program. Get you a 90 day supply, okay? What? What?

[Unc]

Ocho on a prescription plan or something? He gets something.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Hey, hey, Joe. I take two of them. Yeah, I took. I mean, I tried. I tried two of them.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Have mercy.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I tried two of them, but. Yeah. Hey, hey, she ate. She. She was in the ER for two days.

[Unc]

That boy gonna have a whole headache over there.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I was good. I was good. I was good. I was on the full stomach,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

man.

[Unc]

This boy here.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm just saying. I'm telling you, Joe, just be careful now. You're gonna have to go to CVS and get. You be careful. You talk about what that walker for you go find out tonight. In the morning. It'll be useful. He'll prescribe new health. New sexual health. Patients get 15 off their first order of rose sparks on a reoccurring plan. Connect with a provider at Ro Co Nightcap, that's R O.co Nightcap to find out if prescript, if prescriptions rosemarks are right for you. Man. Ocho, I didn't mind that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

What happened?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Talk about some more, kid, bro. I'm about to be 60.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Just think about it. That age ain't. The age ain't nothing but a number. Unc. Don't do that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hell, I Can barely walk. How? I'm gonna teach the kid how to walk. Hey, hey, hey. Oh, we both got. We both got our arms trying to walk. Hell no. Hey, we both got on hard bottom shoes because we can't stand up properly. Joe, you remember you. You had them hard bottom shoes.

[Unc]

Yeah, them little white hard bottom.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hell no, man. I ain't paying no damn ticket.

[John Green]

I'm John Green. You may know me as the author of the Fault in Our Stars, and now, I guess also as the co host of the Away End, a brand new world soccer podcast.

[Daniel Alarcon]

I'm Daniel Alarcon, a writer and journalist, and John and I have known each other since we were kids. My first World cup was Mexico 86. I was nine years old. I watched every game and I fell in love. On our new podcast, the Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World cup for us.

[John Green]

Soccer. Football is a story we've shared for over 30 years, since Daniel was the star player on our high school soccer team.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Very debatable.

[John Green]

And I was their most loyal and sometimes only fan. I love this game. I love its history, its hope, its heartbreak, and above all, its beauty.

[Daniel Alarcon]

Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things football, soccer is the most important.

[John Green]

Listen to the Away End with Daniel Alarcon and John green on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Miles Turner]

What's up? I'm Miles Turner.

[Brianna Stewart]

And I'm Brianna Stewart.

[Miles Turner]

And our podcast, Game Recognized Game, has never been done before.

[Brianna Stewart]

Two active players giving you a real look at our lives and what we actually think on and off the court.

[Miles Turner]

Nothing's off limits. We talk trade requests.

[Brianna Stewart]

What's the vibe of that? When it's like your star player is like, well, I want to leave, and then actually, now I'm going to stay. We talk tanking. I mean, honestly, like, I might get in trouble for this answer, but I think it's like, definitely happening in the wnba.

[Miles Turner]

And yeah, we talk about our mistakes, too. They pulled me to the side and was like, hey, man, we got a call last night, man, you can't be rolling around the city like this tonight before games. No. You know, doing this, doing whatever.

[Brianna Stewart]

And of course, family stories. They'll be like, mommy, why did you miss that? Mommy, do you play basketball? Check out Game Recognized Game with Stewie and miles on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Hey, I'm Wilmer Valderrama.

[Freddie Rodriguez]

And this is Freddy Rodriguez.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Welcome back to Dos Amigos.

[Freddie Rodriguez]

Dos Amigos, season two, baby.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

This time we're going even deeper into our careers, our lives, our art, and everything in between.

[Freddie Rodriguez]

Each episode emanates from our very own speakeasy, where we swap stories about the moments that really shaped us on and off camera.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

What do we invest in right now? What is the immediate advice you give people right now?

[Freddie Rodriguez]

Is to value time, to be cognizant of time and how important time is, because once the time is up, it's up, and then that's it.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

And the relationships, collaborations, and even the failures that pushed us to grow. And the common denominator is that we have the same people with us since, like, 30, 40 years ago, right? Like, we have a lot of the same homies that stuck around.

[Freddie Rodriguez]

Plus, the door always stays open for a third amigo to pull up a chair, listen to Dos Amigos is part of the Michael Tuda podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I'm Daniel Jeremiah.

[Greg Rosenthal]

And I'm Greg Rosenthal.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And this is 40s and free agents.

[Greg Rosenthal]

The games may be over, but the NFL never stops. This is my favorite part of the calendar.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah, mine too, Greg. Free agency, the combine, the NFL draft, pro days, trades. This is where teams reshape their future.

[Greg Rosenthal]

This is where Daniel Jeremiah makes his money on 40s and free agents. We break down every move that actually

[Daniel Jeremiah]

matters, from my draft evaluations, mock drafts,

[Greg Rosenthal]

and team fits to my top 101 free agents, and how real rosters are built. Cap, space, contracts, and all the tough decisions included.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

You got quarterbacks on the move.

[Greg Rosenthal]

We got teams rebuilding. It's hope season.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Absolutely, it's hope season. We'll tell you what's real, what's noise, and what it means for your favorite team.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Smart, analysis, real conversations every week.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I don't know about the smart, but definitely analysis. Listen to 40s and free agents on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

We both walk around there looking like Frankenstein. Oh, hell no, I'm good.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

But hey, that's a good one. That's a good one. That was a good one.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

All right, that's our final second. Eating the chat. It's time for Q and A. Oh,

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

boy, that was a good one. Hell, no. You and the baby.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, yo, hell, I'm telling the old lady, hey, pick up some diapers for both of us. She. She got Pampers. I got the pins. You got a chance to diaper the big grown ass, man. That little baby. Oh, hell, no, man. I'm done with y', all, man. Forget you, Ocho. Before we get to our super chat, we got a video voicemail for our Discord. Make sure you join our Discord to submit video voicemail so you might appear on the show. This one comes from Arkansas 15. Let's take a listen. What he had to say.

[Unc]

Oh, what's up, Nightcap, man? Just want to, man, tell y', all, man. Y' all doing a good job. Been watching the show from the beginning. Glad to see my boy ISO Joe on the show. My boy Chad Johnson. My favorite wide receiver growing up. Got a lot of respect for you, man. Keep going, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, I appreciate that, bro.

[Unc]

Hey, appreciate that. Look like he had one rolled up over there or something. I seen a little smoke coming up. What you. What you got going, boy? Had that fight. Got that OG over there. Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Old lady. Go.

[Unc]

I'm going on a diaper run.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Box of the pins. Richie. Social. What's up, Ocho? Can I get a birthday shout out? It's my birthday. March 21st. I turned 29. I'm close to the big three zero. Absolutely. Richie. Happy birthday, bro.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Happy birthday.

[Unc]

Happy birthday, bro.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That's right.

[Unc]

Live it up.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Cause you about to be. You'll never be in your 20s again, bro. You. You close. So you gotta enjoy it. You gotta enjoy 29. Cause 30 coming. But boy, 30, boy, I was kicking it. 30 gonna make you 29 your 20s. And guess what? 40 make you appreciate your 30s.

[Unc]

Hello.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Make you appreciate your fault is so as you get older, you reach that decade milestone, you start to appreciate things a lot, a lot, a lot more.

[Unc]

Yeah. Hey.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey.

[Unc]

You ain't got many summers left.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No, no, boss man. Hey, I've been watching since the beginning, and y' all got me through the work day. I was curious if you guys could explain how passive rating is broken down. What moment in your life hurt your ego the most? But what ended up making you better? Man, I don't know how to get the passer rating. I guess it's yards per tip. I don't know. They're gonna start boss man. I ain't gonna be holding you. I ain't gonna lie to you.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, that's a good question. I have no idea either.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I know they need to do away with QB rating.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What moment your ego the most, Ocho Joe. But ended up making you better.

[Unc]

Hurt me the most would end up making me better. I'll probably say getting. I got Hurt my sophomore year in college. That's the same year that I left and went pro, but I had ankle surgery my sophomore year. So my sophomore year wasn't as great as my freshman year, but I was still able to get drafted. And I just think fighting through that injury, trying to strengthen my ankle back up, get back to 100%, you know, at such a young age, 19 years old, you know, it showed. It showed me a lot about myself and just how to be persistent, take care of my body. I think it helped me throughout my, you know, NBA career because I was able to play 18 years on that same ankle with no problem. So.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Right.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Ocho,

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

shoot. Something that hurt me, hurt my ego. You know what I think the best situation for me, it didn't hurt my ego, but it did put me in a place of having to realize I have to transition now because I'm not getting another chance. When I got cut by the Dolphins, when I got cut by the Dolphins, and I sit and I sit there and think, but I was on top of the world, boy. I had everything, Joe, while you hear

[Unc]

me, hey, hey, you ain't even get to play a game, did you, man?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

But nah, nah, I did the preseason. Did the preseason, Uncle. I was on top of the world, Joe. I had by every sponsor, every endorsement.

[Unc]

I remember that. I remember that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

If I got in trouble at 11:30, by the time 12:00 clock hit, boy, everything was going away.

[Unc]

What?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, boy, I'm. But everything was going, you hear me? And boy, I sat in that cell and I thought to myself, I say, boy, you were always the villain, so you already know you're not getting a second chance, so you might as well be at peace understanding you will never play again. And figure out what you're going to do on the back end in this transition phase, because now that window of opportunity, that's gone. So, I mean, it did. There was no ego part of being hurt, but it was a great understanding in that cell, reflecting. You're gonna have to figure that on on the next go round because it ain't gonna be the same. It ain't gonna be on that football field.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I think for me it was being the athlete that I was coming out of high school and I had. I bull drive around and didn't go to go where I wanted to go in college. Ended up going to Savannah State. And I remember like, man, you going to Savannah State, all that talent. And I was like, damn. Always wanted to play at a big university. My brother had gone to a big D1 school, I was like, I don't want to follow my brother's footstep. But it was absolutely the best thing that ever happened. The teachers that I met that helped me. I mean, they really, really helped Shannon Sharpe. They really cared about Shannon Sharpe. And I remember the teacher, one of my professors told me, she said, you know, I know you have dreams, and everybody's told me that you this great football player, but we want a great person to leave here. We want you to be educated. We want you to be the best representation of Savannah State, not just on the football field, but as a man, as an educator. Educator. And I was like, damn. I remember. Like, I remember thinking. I'm like, damn, these people really. They really care about me. That was the best thing that ever happened to me. That's the best. That's the best thing that ever happened. Going to Savannah State, I met my kids, moms on Savannah State, my homeboy Bucket. Lifelong friends. We're closer than brothers. I wouldn't change it for anything, Knowing what I know now, I do. If I did it all over again, I go to Savannah State. I go to Savannah State. It. It absolutely made me the person that I am. It absolutely did. Because then I had to realize, oh, Joe. That, you know, I ain't gonna be playing in front of 80,000 and I. And the scouts are not gonna be down here every day to get a look at me, so I gotta give them something to come see, right? I gotta do that said, man.

[Unc]

Come on, bro.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You know, 18 years of living the life that you live, you can endure wouldn't change a thing. Boss man jordan to go 96. Them liberty city boys just talk. King ISO put oo in his place with a couple of them jabs. Snatch his chain for good measure, man.

[Unc]

I got you, bro.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, you tell. He don't know much about Liberty City to saying that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Okay. It's a good one here, right?

[Unc]

Yes.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

With Chuck Norris passing. Rest in peace, Chuck. Hey, now, I'm curious. What's your favorite martial arts movie? Oh, your martial arts movies?

[Unc]

Yeah. Karate Kid. There's no question.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Damn. That's a good one. That's a good question.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Bruce Leroy, who's the master in the dragon bloodsport?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah,

[Unc]

I bet y' all know nothing about the three ninjas.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Nah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Who? Three ninjas?

[Unc]

Yeah. Oh, y' all wanna know about that?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

The last dragon is Bruce Leroy. Enter the dragon. Bruce Lee, I think.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Dragon.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, it might be vice versa.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

The Karate Kid is. Is. That's. That's iconic, bro.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You know, I Like anything. Yeah, I like Jet Lee. I like Ill man. You ever seen Ilk, Man?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hold on. Hey, I bet y' all don't remember Blind Fury. Remember Blind Fury? Blind Fury was funny. Boy, that's old, too. That's way back in the 90s.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

But anything. I like John. Like I said, I like John. Claude Van Damme and Bloodsport, obviously. Bruce Lee. Bruce Lee. How can Bruce Lee not be your favorite? You know martial arts?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, martial art.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Well, I mean, Jackie Chan is up there, too now.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, Fist of Fury.

[Unc]

Fist of Fury.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay, okay.

[Unc]

Hold on. I don't know that Blood sport cold. Yeah. What?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Lady Ray rest in Pete. Chuck Norris in homage. Here's my favorite Chuck Norris joke. When he was born, Chuck Norris drove his mother home from the hospital.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That's a good one. I've been seeing some good Chuck Norris funny.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Push the earth down. Jason Zelda of RIP Chuck Norris, a legend is gone. What's the best movie you think he did? I'm going with Walker, Texas Ranger. That was a good. I like Delta Force.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, remember Delta Force? That's old, huh?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Walker, Texas Ranger was good.

[Unc]

I like.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I used to watch that. But I. I think. I think the movie that I. That I like probably was Delta Force with Chuck Norris, Dr. Frank L. Bellamy, AFAM ISO Joe. If this was a movie scene, what's happening to Ocho Quick? Bruce Lee, knock out Steven Seagal. Calm down. Beat down. Over John Van Damme slow motion with the music playing.

[Unc]

So he said, that's what.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Which one happened in a movie scene to Ocho Quick. Bruce Lee, knockout Steven Seagal. Calm down. Beat down. Because you know Steven Seagal. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Van Damme slow motion with the music playing.

[Unc]

Oh, this is gonna be. It's probably gonna be Van Damme slow with them. See, I don't wanna. I don't wanna knock him out. I want to keep him around. Just beat him down real good. I know you still need it. You know, I don't wanna. I ain't trying to mess his face up or none of that. I'm just.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Y' all gonna have a whole. I'm gonna take a break. Because you would. You and you and Ocho. I will let you know your. Holy doubt. I'm gonna take a night off.

[Unc]

All right, babe. We might have a little, you know, we. It may be some argument going on because, you know, he don't act right a lot of time, but. Yeah, I'm sure we can get through

[ISO Joe Johnson]

it the next day.

[Unc]

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

No, no, I don't like. I don't like, you know, nobody touching my face, you know. Yeah, that's that, that's how, that's how I know, you know, if we ever, if we ever got an altercation but you and you're in trouble, you hear me?

[Unc]

Oh, no, no, no. We getting into one partner. I want my 3 minute fade. I want my fade.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe, I don't have. No, I don't have no problem.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Before you go, you talk about you don't let nobody play. Yeah, but you being everybody, fuzzy face.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Nah, I'm saying everybody.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You know what a fuzzy face is?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah. What's that? What's that, Joe? What's that, Joe?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What you be talking about you be doing all the time and you be trying to get me to come on

[Unc]

Eating grocery.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, you said everybody. That's, that's that. I. I did. That's when I'm performing. Huh? That's, that's when I was performing.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Because I mean, hey, remember I used to work on the street? They said my ocho is a 9th degree tongue. Tongue fu. Master. Yeah, Tongue fool master.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, where you think them 12s come from? They ain't come around for no money.

[Unc]

Damn.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Everybody play, though. Ocho, I keep telling you, can't eat off everybody plate.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, Joe. Well, they. They coming to me for the experience.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What you want me to do?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Be selfish?

[Unc]

Come on, man. Come on.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, Joe. I don't want to be selfish. It's about the experience, you know? You know, word of mouth, it travels fast. No. Praise God.

[Unc]

You make him get in the shower first, huh? You make him come straight out the plane.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I like

[ISO Joe Johnson]

the plane.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I don't want. Hey, Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Working out. Working out.

[Unc]

No.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, I like. I like a natural joke, you know, and she.

[Unc]

I'm telling that thing been smothered.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. Yes, yes, yes. That's how you like it.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, Joe.

[Unc]

Oh, come on, Joe.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, Joe. You gotta do the fingertips straight out

[ISO Joe Johnson]

of Pilates, come out of yoga, Joe. It don't matter to him.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You gotta sit right up there on the counter.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That's how you gotta be, Joe. Hey, just use your finger, you know, you like take taste test your mama when your mom making cake. And you dip your finger in the cake cake batter. Yeah, that's all you got to do.

[Unc]

I heard you, Florida boy.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Hey, listen, Joe, we gonna put on the show when it's time.

[Unc]

Damn.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm telling you, Joe, when you go to his house, bring your own solo cup. Ain't drinking out of nothing.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, I ain't got no. I ain't got no. I ain't got no dishes.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You know, back in the day, Joe. You know, back with that. We growing up. Hey, they passed the water bottle. They probably passed the water bottle.

[Unc]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they do that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, if he drink it, I would pull the rest of the water out. Give me a fresh batch. No, no, no, no. Oh, no.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

We all good.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Stranded on the desert island, we ain't got but one canteen. I'm like, go ahead, Ocho.

[Unc]

Oh, man.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Well, I tell you what. If we strand on the desert island and there's only one canteen, y' all first.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc]

Now we gonna make sure you don't get the job.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, you gonna die first. We already know.

[Unc]

Oh, yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Nah, we ain't fooling with you, Ocho.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, y'.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

All.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Y' all know. Y' all know. Hey, listen, I'm a bishop of. I'm a. I'm a. I'm. I'm a brother of the cloth.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That's okay.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I'm an ordained minister.

[Unc]

Okay.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

A lot of the ministers have some list. We know your past, though. I understand where you had it, but it's just hard for me to get what you done in your past.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, one thing about it. God said to repent and. And ask for forgiveness, and I did that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You are forgiven. You just not forgiven for me by being ISO.

[Unc]

Yeah, absolutely right.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

We ain't got nothing to do with that. I ain't got nothing do with that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I got you. It's all good. Hey, I had my fun, though, when I was living you. I have my. Hey, hey, you gotta try that, though, one time, man.

[Unc]

Man, you gotta chill. Don't be telling nobody if that ain't the thing. If that ain't their thing. Don't be trying to get nobody.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You gotta. You gotta. Hey, hey, Joe, it's 20, 26, man. Unc gotta. He got at least start sucking some toes or doing something, man. God damn. Now, come on, man. Come on. Come on, you. Come on, man. Hey, just listen. Get some ice cubes right. Hit the ice cube. Break the ice cubes up right. You hear me?

[Unc]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Break the ice cubes up. Just put toes in about like you're playing the harmonica like this.

[Unc]

I'm saying, what is. What is it gonna do? It's gonna get it right.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, it's gonna get it right. Then you flip over, keep the ice in your mouth. Huh?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Huh?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Like a. Like a blender. Go in there. Like the blender, Unc.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Y' all don't mind. I gotta give me a shot, Joe.

[Unc]

Oh, go ahead, Go ahead. Oh, Lord have mercy.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Sorry, Chat, but this man doing too much. He doing way too much on the Saturday night.

[Daniel Alarcon]

I'm getting.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Listen, I'm just trying to help you, man. Like, you might not need help in that area, you know, at your age, but there's always room for improvement there. Oh, there are always things you haven't done. You know, I'm. I'm just. Listen, I'm just telling you.

[Unc]

I'm.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I'm just. Listen, man, you take my advice if you want to, you know, I just. You spice it up a little bit. Add some fireworks into the bedroom.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Well, I'm waiting on the fourth for the fireworks. That what I'm waiting on. Hey, KB I want to see, I don't know, join the rig. Oh, you know, he wrong for doing my guy ISO like that. Hey, let me be the referee for ISO and Joe fight. So I saw we owe them hands for doing him like that.

[Unc]

Yeah, he already know it. He already know it.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, well, I'm ready. Hey, everything you throw, getting blocked, getting blocked, and something coming back with it.

[Unc]

Well, you must don't know me very well.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, I. I know you very well. ISO. Joe Johnson.

[Unc]

I got something for you.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I hope so.

[Unc]

Oh, I appreciate that. Appreciate that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

These are made up of Turkish quartz. Because these are special kind of glasses. These are special for Laportier.

[Unc]

Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah, they put. I put them to some good use over here.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, no ocho, though. You don't drink, so you don't get the. The custom glasses.

[Unc]

Yeah,

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

yeah, I don't drink nothing. I don't drink nothing.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No, you can't put your.

[Unc]

You don't got no friends. You don't got no homies or nothing.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, hey, hey. All my homeboy drink, Joe.

[Unc]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, Joe, they don't play. You know, we meet at the cigar bar. Damn. Damn. They every day right down the street. Yeah, them joker drink like fish. Joe. Oh, Joe. Hey, man, I don't see how they do it, man.

[Unc]

Yeah,

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Unc, you good?

[Unc]

Nah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, matter of fact, if your people there, you could try that tonight, too, now.

[Unc]

Oh, man.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

What kind of refrigerator you got? Your refrigerator give you the big ice cubes or the small ones already crushed up.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I got this one in Atlanta that make the big cubes like you have, like. They probably have it twin peak. The cube like this big, right? And yeah, I had. I Had this machine that make 84 cubes. So the 84 was inside of the cube. So it's an ice cube.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Imagine what you could do with that, huh? Take the 84 cube. No, no. And you. Oh, man, you could. Man, you could almost use that like a God.

[Unc]

What it do here?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, Joe. Hey, it's no my imagination, my creativity is going. Now just think about what you can do.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No, bring it on back. You think you.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, hey. Think about using the 84, right? You and your baby, right? You getting in the mood? Little foreplay. Using the 84 as a plug. You feel me? You, you. You know what I mean?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Huh?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You don't want to try that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And then what I'm doing with the ice cube after that. Ocho, I know you think I'm. Put it in my mouth.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah. You got to suck it back out.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

How you gonna say mayo and hot dogs is crazy when you talk about eating squirrel, raccoon, horse, shout out, nightcap. Look, I ate. Will I eat squirrel again? Yes. Have I eaten squirrel? Yes. Have I eaten raccoon? Yes. I've eaten a lot of different animals. But I'm saying I didn't know. I've never seen anybody put mayo on a hot dog. So when, so when Fluffy said he put mayo on hot dog, I say, bro, as a matter of fact, he just DM me. So now when he making a sandwich, he doing anything, he DM me, he's shaking the, he's shaking the mail. But I've never seen anybody put me on hot dogs. I didn't know people ate mayo.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Listen, I, I eat hot dogs everywhere I go, Joe. Every sporting event, you know, they'd be making fun of me. Here you go to Glizzies, and I always get two. And I ate everything. I eat mine playing I, I just. Mayo anything, ketchup or mustard that would get in the way, that, that'd get in the way of me. I, I don't like that.

[Unc]

Hey, I've seen, I seen down in Miami, man, where they got these hundred dollar hot dogs with caviar and all that stuff on there.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Who?

[Unc]

Caviar.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Caviar. I mean, caviar. Don't caviar. Just put it on the cracker, put it on something. It don't go on no hot dog, man.

[Unc]

They selling, they got, they got this place sell hot dogs in Miami. I'm gonna have to send it to y'. All. 100 hot dogs, caviar, a little sprinkle of something on there like some gold.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, Joe. I ain't. I ain't going. I ain't going to. If I wanna. If I want a hot dog, I go right in the design district. You know, they got the little hot dog cars like they got in New York. Yeah, they got a man on each block with a little hot dog cart. Hot dog, 2.50. Give me a nice. Give me a nice peach. Peach soda. A check soda.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Go to Costco. You want a hot dog? A$50.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Costco. Costco too far.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Unc]

Oh, Ocho like. Ocho like that street meat.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, that street. The street vendor hot dog. Them thing be good, bro. Yes, sir.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Well, we know. We already. You already told Joe and I that you eat anything, so we're not surprised. I just want you to know.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, Uncle. Uncle Joe, look. Absolutely. What we talking about here? Yeah. Yes, sir.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I mean, you just. Eat behind everybody, you know, back in the day. Hey, bro, let me get a bite of that. Ain't nobody said nobody ever with Ocho.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, listen. Hey, it's the reason I look so young.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You keep on looking young. I'm gonna go and get old. I'll be looking like Ray Gibson in life. I'm cool with it. Danielle Wells. What's good, Big three Question, y'. All Opinion. Which bio movie was the best between All Eyes on Me. Notorious. Straight out of Compton. Straight out of Compton?

[Unc]

Yeah. Straight out of Compton was a beast. They all were pretty.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they were. I saw them all. Straight out Compton. Yeah, yeah. You know, for me, I think, you know, nwa when they came out, hey, they weren't playing.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, they was very controversial, too, but very controversial. Hey, you know, same thing with. With Uncle Lou. What about with. With the government? With the government. Controversy.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Be so horny.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Shake that the dude. I want to rock. I want to rock. I want to rock. Prince, Drama. Big three. What's up, fellas? Remember the year writers calls Clay a supermax? And ISO. Would you say 2010 was the best free agency by far? I think so.

[Unc]

2010, I think that's when LeBron went to Miami. Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Mellow was up. Mellow resigned with the Knicks. D. Wade was up. He signed with the Heat. Chris Bosh was up. He went to Miami.

[Unc]

Yeah, yeah, I. I think it was. Everybody had cleared. Pretty much cleared their rosters. Okay. No, you're trying to save money just in case LeBron wanted to. Want to come to their team. So everybody had money. So, you know, we. We all caught a good riff for that. I know I did from being in that free agency, you got D. Wade Braun, Chris Boshmello. Hey, sometimes it's. It's good to be lucky.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Dr. LA Brown, MD. All I want in life is for a man to love me as much as Shannon loves LeBron. Because, damn, I just want to trick. But with all these people, y' all never say this. When people hype up Kobe, when people hype up, when people hype up Jordan, nobody ever says, I want somebody to love me as much as they love Kobe or much as they love LeBron. So what is it about that? Because y' all say LeBron. So if y' all saying that Jordan is the goat and Kobe is the second coming, that means they have more supporters than LeBron. And I've never heard anybody say, I want somebody to love me like X love Kobe or ex love Jordan. Why they never say that? Maybe because Jordan has never acknowledged them. Because Kobe never acknowledged them. And LeBron James has acknowledged me. He sees me at the game, he comes and dapped me up. And all those people that supported Kobe and Jordan never got acknowledged. Could that be it? Okay, okay. When he play good, I'm gonna say, play good. If he play bad, I'm gonna say, he gonna play bad. That's the way it rolls, man. You said two weeks ago the Lakers weren't no good. Here's the thing. I got a new set of facts. So when you get a new set of facts, don't show what should happen. Your opinion should change. See the problem with you guys, you get new information and you still hold on to the same facts, the same opinion that you had before. You got the new info, but not the LA Brown. We appreciate you watching, bro. Jason Zelda. I remember ddp Diamond Dallas Page Malone versus Rodman and Hulk Hogan was the highest grossing pay per view in WCW history. I remember that also.

[Unc]

Oh, damn. They said it was the highest gross on pay per view.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

WC World Championship Wrestling. Now, obviously, you know, WWE took it to a whole new level.

[Unc]

Was that when Was that when the Bulls played the Jazz in the final stage?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No, that might have been. That was. I think that was after that is after that. Mike, Mike. What up, big 3oo? You and ISO need to punk. That'll be great Chronic to prank him. And y' all know what would come up with a good idea? Come up with a good one.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I. I got a good one already.

[Unc]

No I n. I ain't messing with uncle. Already said he. He don't like to play them silly games.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

It ain't about what he like to Play. It's about what we gonna do, huh?

[Unc]

Who is we?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Well, I mean, if you scared, you scared.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, don't worry about it. We got something for you, though, Joe. And I got something for you. Don't you worry about that. Let me go and take me another swig. Cause you got me grossed out.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

What you grossed out about, huh? Huh? What you. What you grossed out about?

[Unc]

Eating groceries, man, that man gotta eat no groceries, bro. He's straight, Joe.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You don't eat. Grow no groceries, Joe.

[Unc]

No, I ain't never.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Thank you, man.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Y', all.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That's why me and Joe get along. Power to the people.

[Unc]

I know. Hey.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, man. What y' all doing, man?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Clearly not what you do.

[Unc]

Proximity, Ocho. Hey, I know it's close proximity, but

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

y' all gotta grow up, man. Y' all gotta grow up, man. Y' all gotta grow up, man. Come on, man. Just.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That's why. That's why we gotta stay spread. Because if he in the neighborhood, he's gonna drop in.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Be right around the corner, man. You know, I was right around the corner. I figured I'd stop in here. No, do me a favor.

[Unc]

What's that?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, before. Before Arkansas play tomorrow, man. Go ahead, go ahead.

[Unc]

Come on, come on, come on, come

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

on, come on, Joe. It's three o'clock in the morning, Joe. So, like, when we finish the show and then. Tell me about it tomorrow. And tomorrow.

[Unc]

Hey, that's what they like. Is that what they like?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, Joe. It's something different, Joe. Traders. Try it, Joe. Just try it.

[Unc]

No, I'm straight.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

For me.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I mean, theoretically, Ocho, Nobody knows where the nose goes when the doors close.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. You know, it's all considered sex.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I just. I just want Joe to be comfortable, you know, doing something different and being able to see.

[Unc]

I am. I am comfortable. I'm comfortable.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm okay. Just.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Just try, Joe. You use your thumb to start off, Joe. It's okay.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Take another one. Yeah. I let this one lady say May. Hey, not all women like that. Maybe them young ones do. Yeah. Oh, no.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Don't let them lie to you. They love it. You hear me?

[Unc]

The mo. The older women love it.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

What? Hey, joe. I had one by 72, Joe. I had one by 72, joe. Hey.

[Unc]

What?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

She ain't never. Oh, my God. Where you got. Where you learn this from? I've never had this kind of feeling before.

[Unc]

72.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, Joe, you know what they do to you at 72?

[Unc]

72. Oh, Joe.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, 72. She took her teeth out Joe, I ain't never felt.

[Unc]

Oh, man, you gotta stop.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, Joe, listen to me. Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe, I ain't never joke. You hear me?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, listen, I lie for you before I lie to you, Joe. It was different. It was different. Now, people. You know, people call people cougars, and they try to go for the young one. The young ones, they play too many games. Ain't nobody got time to be brain wrestling with you.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, old folk.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

But hey, Joe, over 50, they know

[Unc]

exactly what they want. They know what they want.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

They're getting straight to business. And after you're done, they gonna put

[Unc]

you out the house, get out of here.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

They gonna send you back home. But they're gonna send you home with some food, though. They can pack your little snack.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'll be saying, hey, oh, yo. By somebody. You bull driving. Some of the ones be like, they'd be 62, 65. So I see them on Tick Tock.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, looking good, huh?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they'd be on the ground, Joe. There. I'll be seeing like 65, 60. I like. Damn.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, get you one of them now, huh? They had you feeling like you had the ufo. Yeah. I'm telling you. I'm telling you, don't. Don't sleep. Don't sleep on them cougars, Joe. I mean. I mean, Joe, you mad?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Can't be taking blood pressure medicine. Somebody.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, I. Listen, I'm talking this. It's the old me. I'm just sharing stories about the old me.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

This.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

This the old me. So I'm, you know, I'm. I ain't like this no more. But.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Don Cino 305. My wife, Danae and I, Chris got married four months ago. The best decision I made in my life, y'. All. Next night, cap. Congratulations. Chris and Danae. Chris and Danae, congratulations on the marriage. Glad. Glad it's going. It's. You're in bliss. It is blissful.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You're having a great time. Congratulations. I don't know how long you guys known each other, but the Nightcap family is extremely proud of you guys and happy for you guys. So, again, congratulations. And. Yeah, yeah, I mean. Oh, Joe and I gonna plan something, Ocho. Cause Joe, you know, we're gonna be looking at the building. We don't got everything. And this man said, man, you know, something came up, and so, you know.

[Unc]

Yeah, you already. You know how I go.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

What?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What?

[Unc]

What?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

What? Y' all finna build Legos? Hey, hey. Wherever y' all going, we go. My buddy, my buddy, my buddy and me, Ryan Jones.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, Unc. Currently in med school. Could you give me a pep talk or. What it takes to be great and the mindset that comes with it. Love you guys. I wish I knew what you was going into. Obviously, if you're going into a specialist, it's going to take a lot more training. But your desire to be great has to be greater than your desire not to be because a lot of people. Look, how great do you want to be? Because your desire to be great got to be. You're greater than the people desire for you not to. To succeed because you know people are not gonna be happy for you. Everybody's not going to be happy for you. I believe in me. I gotta prove myself right and then all of you guys will be wrong. I don't need to prove you wrong. I just need to prove myself right. Get up every day, bro. You know what it takes for you to you and currently in med school, you had to go four years of undergrad, probably two and a half years of. Of secondary. And now you're gonna have to do 4 and plus another 2, 3 of residency. Do you know what it takes, the dedication and the discipline to do all of that, do all that studying? It should you. You don't really need a pep talk because you are extremely disciplined in order to be. To make it this far. You're extremely, extremely disciplined. You don't make it that far without being disciplined because it's a lot of studying. It's a lot of time management. How well can you manage time? You do that extremely well, bro. I'm waiting for the next couple of years when you come back and say, oh man, I'm. I'm a doctor. That's gonna be. That's gonna be great for a nightcap.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, and when you. When you. When you want something bad enough where nothing will get in the way.

[Unc]

You hear me?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Bad enough.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Nothing. Nothing. To see, to know your family go. How proud your family's going to be that they got a doctor. You may have got a doctor in the family, bro. Ryan, you got this underground underscore kicks. Big three, y'. All number one. Can I. Can y' all wish me a happy 70th birthday to my mom, Joanne Dunning. Absolutely. Happy birthday, Joanne.

[Unc]

Happy, happy birthday.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Wow. The big seven zero blessing. That is absolute blessing. 70 times around the sun. Hopefully you enjoyed every single one of them and hopefully you enjoy the kids and y' all got together underground kicks. Hopefully you got with mom. Y' all did something special for because, hey, a lot of people don't have Their moms, you got yours, and you got to. Got to share a very special day with them. Gabe Muniz. What's up, y'? All? Much love, DB for life. Oh, can we get a classic? Oh, no. What time? That's for Ocho. Would you be talking about doing all that. That's all that other stuff, Joe. Oh, no.

[Unc]

Yeah. Oh, no.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, I'm gonna get you right before 20, 26 in. I'm gonna get you right.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh. Oh, no, I'm good.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Come back and tell me all. Come back and tell us all about it, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No can do, Ocho. We good. But like I said, like that lady said. The lady said everybody don't be liking that freaky stuff, Ocho. They don't be liking all that licking all that stuff. What? What?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

What? What? What? What?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Lady said Chat say. Oh, she said maybe them young girls like that. Them young ones.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

No, no, no, no, no, no. I told you I had 172. Was. Was on that. On that type of time about that life.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Cause I know them. They a do that back then. Oh, no.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, no. But that's the whole point is you want to introduce. Introducing to something new that they didn't do back in the 30s.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Take your clothes out, lay down and go and get you finished. Put your clothes back on the league. No, I ain't nobody doing all that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, it's 20, 26. Huh? You. You need. You need to give people an experience. An experience.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Them old lady, them old. Them people. Hey, they ain't believing all that. They ain't doing all that stuff. Ocho, back then, my grandma and grandma and grandfather didn't even sleep in the same bed.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

No, yeah, I understand. I understand that. But this ain't back then. This is now you. We need to live in the.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

In the present. Nine kids. She said. My granddaddy never seen her naked. Not in the daylight.

[Unc]

Man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You couldn't see with him. He. Unless he got. Unless he got. Unless he owl or animal something can see in the dark. Hey, man, the old people, they play like that. Don't you

[Unc]

trying to see where he got this 72 year old.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, hey, hey. You want me to tell you, Joe? It's okay.

[Unc]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Boy. On south beach at Soho House. Boy. Yeah, she was. Hey, she rich now. She stays. She stay on Star Island. This one? No, just any 72 year old.

[Unc]

Oh, you been. You hang out at the Soho House?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

House, Joe.

[Unc]

I already knew it.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yo, I. Man, I. You know, I had a little ad in the paper, Joe.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, for married women. Married women that's married to rich men.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That don't pay him no mind. What?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, you looking for that man, what you call him? Caught his wife cheating and shot another. And shot the man about five, six times out there in broad daylight.

[Unc]

I've seen it. Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Leave that alone though, Joe.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, that I a. See that. I said this was back in the day. Yeah, I know, I know you don't condone it, but, you know, I had. I'm trying to make me. I'm making me a little change on the side, though.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Change that bad?

[Unc]

This bad.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Need help? Chad. I'm sorry. Chad.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I'm sorry. Hey, Joe, I'm just telling you about my life experiences from the past.

[Unc]

Right, right.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That's the old me. That's the old me. Now, once I got baptized, I'm a person. But what I can do, that's what I like about Nightcap. I can come on here and talk about some of the things from my past that most people will be ashamed to tell. I'm not ashamed to tell because we family.

[Unc]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Family.

[Unc]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That made me a nice. Hey, hey, Joe. I made. I made about 15,000 that night.

[Unc]

Damn.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc]

Why you stop, huh? Why you stop? That's a lot of money.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

It'd be. It'd be a one time thing, Joe, you know, and it. It'd be one time thing.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. And them groceries can't go in the shopping cart. They can't go and shave out. I just be. Oh, I'm just saying, I would eat some groceries, but I tell you what, I'm getting about a Whole Foods.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Well, Smith,

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I got you. I got you, man. I got you. I'm. Hey, listen, it's a work in progress with you. We'll get there.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite. There's my partner, the Cincinnati bingo legend, a former pro bowler and an all pro, the ring of fame honoree. That is Chad Ocho, Cinco Johnson and University of Arkansas alum, seven time NBA all star from the Atlanta Hawks waltz ISO, Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys for your support. Thank you for your eyes, ears and your word of mouth. Thanks to you, Nightcap has become the success and the phenomena that has become. And because of you, we shall continue to get better. We appreciate your comments. We appreciate you helping us to get better because that's our goal. We try to we meet and we discuss how can we give the fans a better listening and viewing experience. That is our job, to entertain you, to inform you, to educate you, while all the while while giving you the best visual and audio experience we possibly can. So again, thank you for your support and your continued support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of shade by Laportier, head over to laportierconac.com if you cannot find it in a state or city near you, just order it on leportier.com it is a premium VSOP cognac. As you can see, we have the 750 that is the OG bottle, but now we have the Junior which is the 375. Same quality, same great taste, the same smoothness. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Kentucky beat Santa clara in overtime 89.84. Miami beats number 10, Missouri, 80 to 66. UConn beat Furman 82. 71. UCLA beat UCF. UCF 75, 71. And Iowa beat Clemson 67 61. Kansas beat California Baptist 6860. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. We want to thank each and every one of you for joining us. We'll see you again tomorrow. I'm Unc. He's Ocho. He's ISO. We're out.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Sa.

[Daniel Alarcon]

I'm Daniel Alarcon and this is my friend. He's much more famous than I am.

[John Green]

I wouldn't go that far, but I'm John Green, co host of the podcast the Away End with my old friend Daniel.

[Daniel Alarcon]

On our podcast the Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup. Together we'll find out why. Of all the unimportant things football, soccer is the most important.

[John Green]

Listen to the Away End with Daniel Alarcon and John green on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Miles Turner]

I'm Miles Turner.

[Brianna Stewart]

And I'm Brianna Stewart.

[Miles Turner]

And our podcast game Recognized Game, has never been done before.

[Brianna Stewart]

Two active players giving you a real look at our lives and what we actually think on and off the court.

[Miles Turner]

Nothing's off limits.

[Brianna Stewart]

We talk tanking. I might get in trouble for this answer, but I think it's like definitely happening.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

In the wnba, we talk about our mistakes, too.

[Miles Turner]

They pulled me to the side and was like, hey, man, we got a call last night, man, you can't be rolling around the city like this. The Night before games, check out game

[Brianna Stewart]

recognized game with Stewie and miles on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

How much you weigh, Wanda?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Right now about130. I'm at 183. We should race. No, I want to leave here with my original hips.

[Aaliyah]

On the podcast, the Matchup with Aaliyah, I pair prominent female athletes with unexpected guests. On a recent episode, I sat down with Undisputed boxing champ Clarissa Shields and comedian Wanda Sykes to talk about Wanda's new movie undercard, the art of trash talk and what it really means to be ladylike. Open your free iHeartRadio app, search the Matchup with Aaliyah, and listen now.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Brought to you by Novartis, founding partner

[Wilmer Valderrama]

of iHeart Women's Sports Network.

[Freddie Rodriguez]

Hey, I'm Wilmer Valderrama, and this is Freddie Rodriguez.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

And we're back.

[Freddie Rodriguez]

Dos amigos.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Season two, baby.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Last time, we went deep on our careers, our lives, our arts, and everything in between.

[Freddie Rodriguez]

Our big breaks, our auditions, the near misses, the epiphanies, the moments that change our lives forever.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

This season, we're deepening our relationships, creating collaborations, and the door always stays open

[Freddie Rodriguez]

for a third amigo to pull up a chair.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Listen to those amigos on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I'm Daniel Jeremiah.

[Greg Rosenthal]

And I am Greg Rosenthal.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I know that, Greg. We're teaming up on 40s and free agents, the podcast that owns the NFL off season.

[Greg Rosenthal]

This is where teams are built. Free agency combine, pro days, trades. Every move matters.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

From my draft boards and mock drafts

[Greg Rosenthal]

to my vaunted top 101 free agents and how rosters come together. Quarterback movement, surprise signings.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

We'll tell you what it means and who really wins. Open your free iHeartRadio app, search 40s and free agents and listen now.