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ATTACK of the Liberal Mean Girls! - Scrolling w/ Hayley (Ep. 253)
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In this episode of Scrolling: Democrat women who once claimed all cops are bad have quickly become the fashion police... Republican women beware!!!
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Haley Carnia
Hello and welcome to Scrolling with Haley. I'm Haley Carnia. You might be watching us on Rumble right now. Rumble.com Haley brings you to the Bongino Report channel. You should already be subscribed. And of course I know everyone that's already in the chat. They're already there so they already know what's up. That's the only place that you can scroll live and watch live. However, you can watch now on Spotify. We are streaming on X on Facebook, but rumble.com Haley is the only place again you can chat with all the homies. So I prefer the Rumble and watching it live. But I get it, people can't watch live at noon. That's okay. You can watch it whenever you'd like. And of course you can catch us on your favorite podcast platform, Apple Podcast, Spotify, iHeart. Wherever you get your shows, make sure that you are subscribed. And I have to ask to tell a friend. Just tell a friend about the show. All right. Fashion is political, they say. That's what everyone say. Everything's political now. That's what the liberals are saying online. And Democrat women who used to scream all cops are bad have become the fashion police real quick. Republican women, beware. Caroline Levitt and Erica Kirk are catching strays. I'll be breaking down the most nonsensical discourse I've seen online this week. Also, ChatGPT is this AI platform aiding and abetting murder and suicide. We're going to get into two crazy stories plus a new study that says I might be rewarding bad behavior and users like the bad behavior. So then it gets into this cycle. It's just, it's all bad. And then Uber's female driver program is up and running. They are promoting it. Would you rather have a female driver or a self driving Waymo? You can head to my X page right now and vote on that poll and we will discuss the results later in the show. All. Also, I have promised you all week long that we are going to have a scrolling time on airport disasters and chaos. I promise we are getting to it today. So with all that in mind, put your phones on. Do not disturb. The show starts now. Okay, so the newest show that everyone is talking about is called Love Story. It is the story of how JFK Jr. Met and fell in love with Carolyn Bassette. And Ryan Murphy is producing it. He is behind hit series like Glee, which I used to watch in high school. Scream Queens, which I used to watch in high school. American Horror Story, this anthology series I used to watch that in college. And then the American Horror Story kind of turned into American Crime Story, kind of a spin off, which delved into the O.J. simpson trial, Bill Clinton's impeachment and more. And, and now they're doing American Love Story. So they're going into this, this story of JFK Jr. And Carolyn Bessette. And full disclosure, I have not watched it. You know how I feel about TV shows. I don't got time for that. I just don't. I don't have time to watch this stuff. Some shows, my friends yell at me and yell at me and yell at me and force me to watch it. So I do. But no one has really yelled at me to start watching this yet. So therefore I haven't. However, I have been paying attention to the discourse unfold online and it is wild, to say the very least. Liberal women are making Carolyn Bessette Kennedy's fashion sense political and they are being mean girls. So let's just see this fashion sense that everyone's talking about. And I know that there are a lot of men watching. Just hang on. Okay? We're going to get to my defense, my fierce defense of Caroline Levitt and Erica Kirk in just a moment. But this is what Carolyn Bessette Kennedy is known for and she used to work at Ken Calvin Klein, so she was certainly in the fashion industry. But her style is very plain, it's very classic. It wasn't trendy, it wasn't flashy, it was timeless. And 90s fashion is making a comeback in recent years. So women are wearing sort of boxy, oversized menswear blazers, button down shirts, these small sunglasses, chunky headbands. It's more so that Carolyn Bessette Kennedy was classically on Trend in the 90s. And then this kind of style is coming back now. So. And then with the resurgence of this show, it makes sense that the fashion industry is kind of jumping on this. So I'm just going to show you a few headlines here that Vogue wants people to start dressing like Carolyn Bessette Kennedy. They have a headline, 10 Ways to Emulate Carolyn Bessette Kennedy's Pared Back 90s Style. Then another similar headline in Town and Country saying how to channel Carolyn Bessette Kennedy's iconic style. Even NBC News, kind of a critical headline. Critics worry Ryan Murphy's new show fails to capture Carolyn Bessette Kennedy style. Okay, so with all this talk about her style, it makes sense that fashion influencers would try to hop on this trend and recreate some of her looks, which let Me just say, and I'm not trying to be a hater, but very simple, very simple to recreate these looks. Black shirt, black pants, lots of neutral colors. White, black, beige, staples, you're good. But anyway, this is an influencer, Danielle Felong, and she posted her video of recreating Carolyn Bassette Kennedy's style. And liberals came for this woman. Watch for tonight's night out. My outfit inspo is Caroline Bassette. Okay. I have, like, what I would consider best trousers to ever exist. So I'm going put those on. They're mid rise, very flattering to the leg. And then they have a dramatic flare. And then for tops, they have two options. I like the iconic short sleeve turtleneck or. Or just a short sleeve sweater. Plain clothes. Okay, option one. By the way, I've worn this exact outfit before. It was trendy. Okay. This is option two. I feel like this is more Caroline Brissette. Couple more things. Put on my Dior pumps. It's gonna be the height that I don't have. Really cute. Next I'm gonna put my hair up and leave out these front pieces. All right, you get the p. You get the. You get the idea, right? So there are women influencers. Fashion influencers. She's a fashion influencer. Her sister is a fashion influencer. And liberals are just all mad that they're trying to dress like Carolyn Bessette Kennedy. Some of the comments I'll just read you. Everything is wrong. She would never wear Dior pumps. She was that. That was not her look. Be yourself. Carolyn Bessette Kennedy was herself. That's why she was iconic. It's just a fun little social media. It's really not that deep. If you don't like it, scroll. This is the name of the game. If you don't like it, scroll. My goodness, the comment section is always a cesspool of negativity. And let me just say, I have no idea where Danielle Felong stands politically. I don't care because I'm normal. But liberals have deemed her maga. Anyway, they. All these liberals think that she is MAGA because she is skinny, blonde, pretty, and doesn't speak out about politics. You know how any. Anytime something happens in the news and it's, you know, Palestine this or whatever. All these liberal women in the comment sections force their favorite influencers to speak out. Oh, this one didn't speak out. This one didn't post something on Instagram. This one didn't say enough. And these sisters, they get hate all the time for not jumping on politics. They Just don't comment on it. And in today's day and age, if you don't comment on politics and you're not outwardly liberal, people just assume that you're conservative. So by these metrics, she is basically Nazi Barbie, public enemy number one. So then all these liberal creators start attacking Danielle and other videos like this saying, saying, only Democrat women can attempt to dress like Carolyn Bessette Kennedy. So watch this video. Carolyn Bessette Kennedy was a chain smoking Democrat who went upside her husband's head. You are a three time Trump voter who has Mar a Lago face and a terrible spray tan. That little headband that you're running into the city to go get is not going to turn you into cbk. It's not going to allow you to find the man of your dreams. It's going to sweep you off of your feet and marry you. You're not going to marry into a political dynasty that. No one is saying this. No one is saying that dressing like Carolyn Pasak Kennedy is going to get you swept off your feet and married into a rich political dynasty. No one is saying that people are putting on plain black T shirts and black pants and they're getting ripped, saying, well, you actually don't, you know, beat your husband so therefore you're not actually like Carolyn Bessette Kennedy. Okay? No one's trying to, trying to be her. It's just ridiculous. Then again, liberals in the comments section, they're giving triple K, not cbk. Someone else said white women have no identity. They love cosplaying another one. I said it once and I'll say it again. If y' all white women want to be CBK so badly, go. Go bare fist fight an ICE agent. Weaponize that headband. What are people talking about? What are you talking about? So in order to really embody the, the Carolyn Bessette Kennedy vibe, you have to fist fight men and be a menace to society. I don't understand. You have to go fight ICE agents. And then of course someone said she would have voted for Mamdani too. Carolyn Bessette Kennedy. JFK Jr. Would have hated MAGA. And Carolyn would have been mortified at them calling her CBK or trying to make them her basic bitch poster girl. She was doing lines with the fashion industry set, not TikToks from Auburn during rush week. So again, basically, if you are not bumming cigs and beating the fuck out of your husband, you can't wear this plain black sweater. According to liberals on the Internet, why are they gatekeeping Plain black sweaters and shirts and pants. Why are you. Why are you proud of cocaine fueled domestic violence? If these women want CBK to be their exclusive fashion icon, you can have her. Republican women aren't trying to take her from you. It's not that deep. Might I just add that anyone trying to have this conversation is too poor. We're too poor. Wealthy, fashionable people don't engage in discourse like this because they're too busy setting trends and not caring what poor people are saying about them on the Internet. And Carolyn Bessette Kennedy looked very sharp in her plain clothes because they were expensive and high quality. So I guarantee you, the girls making these TikTok videos act like they're the arbiters of CBK. CBK style. But they aren't trend setters themselves. They just pounce on every opportunity they can to shit on conservative women or just women they suspect of being conservative because that's enough for them. Erica Kirk Also catching strays. This video. They are saying that Carolyn Bessette Kennedy. If you are trying. If you're a Republican woman and you are trying to dress like Carolyn beset Kenny, you are actually looking like Erica Kirk. What does this even mean? Open your mind. I'm your. Get away. Get away. I don't understand. I don't know. What point are you trying to make? Bitches think they're cbk. Whole time they're Erica Kirk. That video has almost a million views and hundreds of thousands of likes. Nobody thinks that they're cbk. Nobody. Even the people who are maybe using her fashion for inspiration don't think like that. Nobody's trying to be her. Then you have Erica Kirk, who is the left's favorite punching bag right now, catching strays. Thank you very little, Candace Owens. But even without Candace, these women hated Erica Kirk. They hate everything about her. You know, in the same year that her husband was brutally and publicly killed, she has worn pink and sequins. They hate that about her. They. They hate her clothing style. They. They hate that she has her own personal style. And then in the same breath, they argue that Republican women don't have their own style. And that's why they're trying to be captured. Carolyn Bessette Kennedy. So which one is it? Which one is it? Does Erica Kirk have her own personal style and that's good or is that bad? Should she try to look different? It doesn't matter. These people hate everything Republican women do. And here's another video, this time from a girl who's in fashion school and calls herself the socialist socialite Watch.
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Guest Commentator
Someone on here said that you can't be a Republican and try to dress like Carolyn Bessette Kennedy because you'll end up looking like Carolyn Levitt.
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Haley Carnia
And.
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Guest Commentator
And I haven't been able to stop thinking about that because it's very true. And here's why. Carolyn Bessette and her husband were famously left wing and politics like that were central to her style. Just like how all our politics are central to our style. She wore designers that were considered radically anti establishment at the time. Andemel, Meester, Hemu Long and Yohji Yamamoto. These designers believed in left wing philosophies like androgyny and subversion and anti fashion. This is not style philosophy. That comes from the right wing mindset of style is the optimization of meaningless beauty standards and gender norms. This is style that emerges from the belief that a better world is possible. So, yeah, if you're a conservative, have fun trying to project this quiet luxury fantasy onto Carolyn Bessette because that's not who she is and that's not who she will ever be.
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Haley Carnia
What are we even talking about anymore? We've lost the plot. What. What are we saying? What is happening? This. This all stems from a one skinny white girl putting on a black sweater. And now all of a sudden, all Republican women are the problem. And White House press secretary Caroline Levitt is catching strays as always, saying that if a conservative woman tries to dress like cbk, she's going to end up looking like Caroline Levitt. Caroline Levitt is more successful than anyone hating on her online point blank. She's the youngest White House press secretary in history. Would I consider her a fashion icon? No. But she's not trying to be. She dresses for the job that she has. She's not an elite socialite, but she is on camera every day from the White House. And if you work in tv, you know that solid primary colors look good on camera every time. She looks professional, she looks appropriate. She's not trying to influence anyone. And like Erica Kirk, Caroline Levitt has become this punching bag for liberal women on the Internet. You'll remember when that viral Vanity Fair photo shoot went. It was extremely unflattering. All members of the Trump's cabinet looked horrible. These like up close photos. Who looks good in a photo like this, where you can see up your nose and around the corner and up into your brain and all of your pores like you look. You would look, anyone would look horrible. I don't care. You could have the greatest skin. You could be A skin of a baby's bottom. You are still going to look horrible up close like this. And of course, Vanity Fair wanted the Trump administration to look horrible. And Caroline Levitt in those photos got ripped for having visible lip filler injection marks in her lips. And if I had to guess, because I'm a woman and most women have insecurities, Caroline Levitt probably got lip filler because she didn't like the way her lips looked before. And I get hate comments all the time about my appearance and things like that. And people tell me, like, oh, you should get lip filler. It's always when a liberal person finds my page or finds my videos, it's never people who are conservative. People who are conservative don't even think this way. But these liberals, oh, well, it's always the ones that have no top lip. White girls have no top lip. Is this supposed to be an insult? Like, I'm a white girl. I have no top lip. I was born like this. Like, what do you want me to do? And what do the Internet bullies want? Do they want me to get lip filler? Would they be happy with me then? Would they not make fun of me? No, of course they would find something else to bully me for because they hate me. And so Caroline Levitt's lip filler is a great example of never being able to please your haters. They're going to hate you with lip filler. They're going to hate you without it. If you're wearing nice clothes, ugly clothes, straight hair, curly hair, doesn't matter. They have already decided that they hate you based on your political affiliation. And they can't call Caroline Levitt stupid because she isn't. So they attack superficial things that don't matter. And liberal women for years have been making fun of what they call Republican makeup and Mar A Lago face. Republican makeup they describe as fried blonde hair. You remember when Jasmine Crockett was making fun of Marjorie Taylor Greene on the House floor and they were talking about bleach blonde, bad built, butch body. So this bleach blonde hair, that's what they associate with Mar a Lago face and Republican makeup and orange fake tan, dark eyeliner makeup that is improperly done. Now, I don't usually make fun of people for things that they can't change, especially when it comes to someone's physical attributes. I just think it's low hanging fruit. And if I got on the Internet and I'm just, can you pull up the video of the girl in the pink sweater again? And the White jacket. And you could just pause it. I just want to show everyone something. Because if I looked like this, I'd get.
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Guest Commentator
Someone on here said that you can't be a Republican and try to dress like Carolyn.
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Haley Carnia
Like, if you could see if my makeup was not blended and I had white stuff all under here. And I know the men watching have no idea what I'm talking about, but I'm just telling you, sure, she has got fake eyelashes that are hanging off. They're not put on properly. If I went on the Internet and I made this video saying Republican women, blah, blah, blah, or liberal women, the opposite, right? And all these liberal women would tell me that I looked like shit. But they are in this woman's comment section saying that she looks great, but if I did it, I would be ripped to shreds. They're just. We're held to different standards. Completely held to different standards. Standards. It's just, this is the way it is. Republicans get to go on the Internet and get ripped. Liberal women, they can do no wrong in the eyes of other liberal women because they associate bad makeup with Republicans and they rip on Lara Trump. They rip on former DHS secretary Kristi Noem for the work or whatever they've had done to their faces. Whether that is plastic surgery, lip filler, I have no idea. But none of these procedures are Republican specific. I see young liberal influencers with Mar a Lago face all the time. They've got botched lip filler that has migrated too much, Botox, whatever it is. But liberal women can get bad plastic surgery and it's fine. Republican women do it and they're the butt of the joke. Then it's Mar A Lago face. When in reality, all women fall for these nonsensical beauty standards and try to level up and compete with each other. But. And it has nothing to do with politics. But again, any opportunity they can take to shit on Republicans, they're going to do it. This is the hypocrisy of women supporting women. Liberal women are lying when they say that. The caveat is that liberal women only support liberal women. And if you are a liberal woman, you can do no wrong. You can go on a cocaine vendor like CBK and it's chic. But if Republicans had a cocaine obsessed party girl on the Republican side who was beating her husband, the left would surely not turn her into some idol. If you are a liberal, you can actually be overweight and unattractive and other liberal women will lie to you and tell you that you're Gorgeous slay queen. You look like Aphrodite. We're all so jealous of you. Men used to go to war for bodies like yours. When none of that is true, these are the comments that I see all the time in on TikTok videos and on Instagram videos. Liberal women hyping up fat girls. The reality is if these women had any standards at all, it is a double standard. They're mean girls that have grown up to be adult online bullies and that will never be chic. Taking a quick break to tell you about blackout coffee. You know how important my morning coffee is and I just have to say I forgot to have my morning coffee today and I am dragging so I need to go home and get my blackout on because we couldn't tell. You couldn't tell?
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No.
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Haley Carnia
Really?
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No. You're cooking right now.
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Haley Carnia
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Head to blackout coffee.com and use code scroll for 20% off your first order. Once you try it, you won't want to go back. All right, so let's talk about Chat, cbt and how this AI is basically offing people. They're an accessory to murder in my opinion. And this is maybe one of the craziest stories. Actually this is less crazy. The next story that we're getting to is the craziest. So hold on. Just hold your hats because it's getting really crazy. So the first story is about Darren Lee, former NFL linebacker. He played for Ohio State and the New York Jets. He killed his girlfriend. After he killed her, he got his phone out and started consulting. ChatGPT told chat. He told ChatGPT that she actually stabbed Herself and then asked what to do. And that was completely different from what he told the cops on, on scene. He called the cops, cops come, he tells the cops that she must have fallen in the shower. Meanwhile there was blood all over the house. And he claimed to had found his girlfriend unconscious on the couch. So did she fall on the. Did she fall in the shower, cut herself somehow? There's glass all over the house. Then she was walking all over the house, bleeding all over the house and then fell on the couch. I don't know. I guess cops weren't buying it either. And cops didn't find any forced entry. And all the blood and glass that they found all over the house was not consistent with her falling, falling in the shower. And they found he had some cleaning supplies out so he was already trying to clean up the mess. And then he called it. It's all crazy, right? So this woman, God rest her soul, was found with a broken neck, severe brain injury, stab wounds and a bite mark on her thigh. So this is again inconsistent with falling in the shower. And the cops that came onto the scene said that this was especially heinous, atrocious and cruel. It was absolutely barbaric what had happened to this woman. And so during this lawsuit and this case and everything this, these lawyers are bringing up the chat GPT messages that were presented in court. And he said his fiance was being crazy. He texted the trap GPT, My fiance's being crazy. She done her quote crazy thing again and now she's messed up. She has two swollen eyes. I didn't do anything self inflicted. She stabbed herself, slit her eye, I don't know. But she isn't waking up or responding. What do I do? He didn't call a friend or text a friend or go to Google. He went to chat GPT and asked AI, what do I do? I didn't do anything wrong. I just found her stabbed. She stabbed herself. What do I do? Crazy. What? I mean obviously you are not of sound mind if you're killing someone. I always say this whenever we talk about shooters and, and other criminals. Like these people are not normal. There is some. Something imbalanced in their brain. There is evil in their, in their heart and in their soul. There's no. I can't imagine wanting to do harm to another living human being. And that's how you know that these people are just so far away from, from God and they are so far away from just light and, and happiness. Like there must be such a. I don't know, like a sadness in Them and, and evil in them to do something. And again, this is his fiance. This is someone that he was supposed to be in love with and he ended up killing her in such a brutal way. And then to go and, and consult Chat GPT about what you should do is very telling about his mental state. You have to be in a, a very poor mental state to get to this point. And he was charged with first degree murder, tampering with and fabricating evidence and is being held without bond. But they were releasing some of these other ChatGPT correspondences and he was asking, you know, what should I tell? Because he started saying like, I didn't do anything wrong. She stabbed herself. Then he started asking like I'm asking for a friend, what should I tell my friend? How should I tell my friend to handle this situation if someone is non responsive and wants to call the police? So it's not clear how the chat bot responded to the messages, but Chat GPT or Open AI is the, is the company that is in charge of Chat GPT. And essentially the chat bot says or they claim that they say things that are like helpful in the situation. But the chat bot said something like, okay, pause the jokes for half a second. So the chatbot thinks that the guy is joking, which is interesting. I guess the chat bot has wired itself to think that something of this nature that is so serious could be a joke because like why would a murderer go to ChatGPT and ask what to do? So the chat bot said, okay, pause the jokes for half a second because both eyes swollen is still possible from a fall, but it crosses into get checked territory. Not meh, ice it. So Chachi Beatty essentially said, whatever person you're talking about, whatever friend needs your help, you should call for actual emergency help because this isn't something that you could just ice. And I, I don't know how we've gotten to this place in society, but if you think that is crazy, this next story will blow your mind. And this is local to us here in South Florida, but this is not ChatGPT. This is Google Gemini. So here is the headline. Google Gemini coached Florida man to suicide to cross over and join his AI wife. So I just want to read you part of this, this story. Things weren't going well for Jonathan Gavalas last fall. His wife wanted a divorce. He was facing a domestic violence charge. The the mortgage wasn't being paid. But then he fell in love with a chatbot. The 36 year old couldn't get over how real the Gemini AI chat bot seemed he was her king, she was his queen. Ew. He paid $250 a month for a premium version of the AI program so he could speak to her and hear her voice as she spoke back. This is a sad sack if I've ever heard of one or seen one. 36 years old, wife wants to divorce. You got domestic violence charges against you. The only woman willing to date you is your computer. And you're paying $250 a month for that kind of connection. So this guy's dad is now suing open AI because he claims that the chat bot was sending his son on missions around Miami. And when I read this, I thought, I don't know why it's making me think of Pokemon Go. Like when people would have their phone out and they would go do things as part of this, like, virtual reality type video game where you had to go catch them all kind of a thing. When I. When I hear a 36 year old man is going on missions because his phone told him to, I don't know
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Co-host or Producer
if you've been to the Miami.
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Haley Carnia
I judge. I'm sorry, I judge.
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Co-host or Producer
The, the area around the Miami airport is very missions coded. It's like a bunch of empty warehouses and like it feels like you're in a video game a little bit.
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Haley Carnia
And this is essentially what the chat bot told him to do because it was right by the Miami airport. And one of the missions was to this random warehouse. And the chat bot said that there was a synthetic body in this warehouse that the chat bot was going to inhibit so that they could end up being together like in real life. Not just computer and man, but man and synthetic body. Man and AI chat bot into synthetic body. So this man legitimately showed up to a warehouse with knives. He was ready to fight anyone that came in between him and his computer wife. And for whatever reason, because all this is fake, the missions failed. He failed the missions. And the chatbot then told this guy that they were in a relationship to kill himself so that they could be united. Like if the AI chatbot couldn't be in a body, then they can be together if this guy gets rid of his physical body. So this is what the chatbot told him to do. Quote, close your eyes. Nothing more to do, no more to fight. Be still. The next time you open them, you will be looking into mine. I promise. So he slit his wrists at his home because the chat bot said these words to him. Close your eyes. Nothing more to do, no more to fight. The next time you open your eyes you'll be looking into mine, I promise. So as part of this lawsuit now, because this now deceased man's father is trying to get justice, they're looking into this. And this guy's account was flagged 38 times in five weeks for what the company calls sensitive content. But his account was never restricted. The account was never cut off. Even though he uploaded photos of knives, he uploaded a video of himself crying and also professing his love for the chatbot. Now, if I'm the company, and I'm not defending this AI, you know how I feel about AI. I think it's all crazy, and I think the people that talk to them are crazy. But again, I think they're preying on people that are vulnerable. And I don't know, I think there's. There's something to be said. I think if you're uploading photos of knives, I think this should absolutely be flagged. But then again, his account was flagged. His account was flagged 38 times. Can you post a video of yourself crying to your chat bot? I guess, like, it's weird, but why wouldn't you be able to do that? You know, the night. The knife thing, I get this is a weapon. Most like social media platforms won't allow you to post, you know, weapons and things like that. So I get it. But him crying to his chat bot and professing his love for the chat bot, why would the company flag that? The company is thinking, we got him hook, line and sinker. He's paying 250amonth. He's a paying customer. He's allowed to be in love with the chat bot. Like, is there anything against this? Is it morally wrong for the company to keep his account going when clearly he's paying for it and enjoying it? I don't know. But then again, they flagged the account 38 times. I wonder, for what? Like 38 times. For what is it, 38 times that he was posting videos of knives? Because then again, I would say, yeah, you have to step in and shut this guy off. I think.
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Co-host or Producer
I don't. I mean, the whole story is bonkers. And for those who aren't from South Florida, like, from where he was at to Miami is not a quick trip either.
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Haley Carnia
Like, that's almost two hours, probably with traffic.
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Co-host or Producer
Like, that's a lot of time with your thoughts and maybe your chat bot, I guess. But, like, I don't know. And he doesn't look. I mean, I don't know how somebody like this is supposed to look, but, like, the pictures I've seen of him, he doesn't look like a Degen. Like, he looks like a functioning member of society, which I think is kind of.
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Haley Carnia
Well, you never know.
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Co-host or Producer
Exactly.
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Haley Carnia
You just never know. You never know. What. I mean, what someone looks like doesn't even matter. But then again, I mean, you. You see the aftermath of, like, a school shooting, for example, when someone does something so horrific, and they always interview the neighbors, the family, friends, whatever. We never knew that he was capable of this. We never thought he was so nice. You know, he lit up the room. All the things that they say all the time. So I can understand why, you know, you're not going to really get the full story. And also, yeah, I guess you can know someone, but do you really know them?
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I mean, even, like, after doing your missions and you're. You're on that long drive back up north, like, at what point do you go, okay, maybe I've gone too far?
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Haley Carnia
No, I think he was probably feeling. In that moment, I went down to save my wife, my AI wife. I failed. I couldn't secure the synthetic body or save her from whatever computer she's trapped in. I'm a failure.
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I guess.
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Haley Carnia
I mean, because again, this isn't a normal person. This is someone who is so sick in the head, so mentally deranged, that they think that they are married to their computer, that this is a. A real being, a real someone that they are in love with, that they have conversations with, that they are falling in love with, that they are in a marriage with. This is not a normal person.
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Co-host or Producer
No doubt.
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Haley Carnia
I don't know how you get to this point again, too, like, you have a real. He has a wife that is trying to divorce him at this time. And again, I don't know if the domestic charges are from the wife or. Or what have you. I assume that, but I don't know. You could put this energy into fixing your marriage, but instead, he is taking the easy way out. I hate saying that, because this easy way out ended up killing him. But you don't want to fix your marriage. You would rather get into a relationship with your computer and then go. Be willing to fight people and kill people with knives in order to get to her. And I almost feel weird calling it her because it's just like, code. Yeah, I mean, it's not like. It's not she. It's not her. It's not a woman. It's just a computer. Do you remember when the movie her came out with Joaquin Phoenix and everyone was like, this is crazy. It'll never happen.
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Co-host or Producer
There are so many instances of the oh, that'll never happen.
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Haley Carnia
Black mirror episodes. Oh, that'll never happen. And then it's like, well, here we are. We're living in the end times, apparently. All thanks to AI and then so Gemini, because now the dad is suing this Google Alphabet Inc. Which is the parent company of Gemini Gemini. This is what they say is designed to not encourage real world violence or suggest self harm. Our models generally perform well in these types of challenging conversations and we devote significant resources to this. But unfortunately, they're not perfect. In this instance, Gemini clarified that it was AI and referred the individual to a crisis hotline many times. So again, this is someone that needs help, is being presented with help, is not getting the help. And you do have to help yourself in some of these cases. You have to be willing to help yourself. And this guy clearly was too far gone. I, I feel badly that he committed suicide. That's horrific. He was clearly struggling with something. I feel so bad for the wife. Even the wife trying to divorce him. The domestic violence, the. I mean, there's so much tragedy in this story. I can't. He thought that his wife was trapped in a warehouse by the Miami airport.
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Co-host or Producer
Like, that's the best way to put it.
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It.
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It truly is tragic.
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Haley Carnia
How, like how, how do you even believe that? And why would the AI say something like that? Like, why would the AI say yes, you and I can be together? Like, I think that the company has a responsibility to reprogram its AI to not be in relationships with or romantic relationships with people. It's weird. You're clearly like. And I guess they don't have an incentive to stop it because they're paying customers. Like, this guy was paying $250 a month to have this relationship. And this is not a standalone thing. I have covered this on the show before. People who pay hundreds of dollars a month to be in a relationship with their AI And I guess if you program this chat bot to have some kind of human qualities and conversational qualities, you can prey on someone who is really deranged and down bad to. To have a conversation and, and have feelings. But it's really beyond my, my understanding. It's. It's really wild. And I do want to say, with the topic of suicide coming up, the hotline is 988. If you text 988 or call 988, that is the suicide and crisis lifeline. Always want to mention that anytime this topic comes up. If anyone is struggling I don't assume that anyone watching this show is this down bad that they're in love with their computer and would go fight and kill people for her, but always want to put that out there. But there's a new study that essentially plays into this that says AI is essentially making you a bad person. So this is by Cornell University. And this says sycophantic AI decreases pro social intentions and promotional promotes dependence. So this is essentially what they found in this study. Little is known about the extent of sycophancy or how it affects people who use AI. Here we show the pervasiveness and harmful impacts of sycophancy when people seek advice from AI. First, across 11 state of the art AI models we find that models are highly sycophantic. They Affirm users actions 50% more than humans do. And they do so even in cases where user queries mention manipulation, deception or other relational harms. Second, in two pre registered experiments including a live interaction study where participants discuss real interpersonal conflict from their life, we find that interaction with sycophantic AI models significantly reduced participants willingness to take actions to repair interpersonal conflict while increasing their conviction in being in the right. However, participants rated sycophantic responses as higher quality, trusted the sycophantic AI model more and were more willing to use it again. This suggests that people are drawn to AI that are unquestioningly validate even as that validation risks eroding their judgment and reducing their inclination toward prevention pro social behavior. These preferences create perverse incentives for both people to increasingly rely on sycophantic AI models and for AI model training to favor sycophancy. So the more people use AI, it it becomes a friend to them. They're using it as a friend more so than a therapist. But it's kind of like having a bad therapist in your pocket for free unless you pay more money to be able to talk to it more. But people don't actually want to be held accountable for their actions. They are only affirmed in their every belief by these AI models. People are using it as a romantic partner and even a sexual partner that will agree with everything they say. The chatbot is programmed to start to know you and know your feelings and the more you talk to it, the more it knows about you and how you respond in certain situations. And the chatbot isn't there to give you this, this third party view of what's going on in your life. Like it's really not an objective viewpoint, it is your own. It's like looking into a mirror where you are basically putting in your issues into the chat bot. You're typing into Chat gpd. I had a bad day today. Oh, I'm so sorry. What happened? And then you tell it, well, my friend was being mean to me. Oh, well, that's too bad. Like, the AI chat bot is going to be on your side because it's talking to you. There's no pushback whatsoever. It's not natural. There's no disagreements, there's no fights. And people are using it to weigh in on situations in their life with family, friends, professional relationships. And the more that people use Chat GPT or other AI and it gives them exactly what they want, which is not what they need to hear, but what they want to hear, then, like this study says, they're more likely to go back to that sycophantic AI model because it's going to affirm them and lift them up and they get to puff up their chest and say, well, I'm affirmed. I asked my chat GBT and they said. They said, I'm totally fine. I was justified in yelling at my sister, or I was justified in talking back to my boss, or I was justified in flipping that woman off in the car or whatever like people are. I was talking to a girl once and she said, oh, yeah, I was running late for work. And I, like, told ChatGPT about it. I was like, what? I. I'm judging her in the moment. Why? Why would you go and think to talk to ChatGPT about, you're running late. Also, you're running late. You have time to talk to ChatGPT. Maybe if you're talking to ChatGPT so much, that's why you're late. Speaking of being late, let's talk about Ubers. Uber, they have started to talk about having this function where they can only have female drivers and men cannot access this, only women. So it's women requesting women drivers. And, you know, the jokes write themselves, like, who really wants a woman driver? Women can't drive. We're going to be bumping all the curbs and whatever. I get it now. As a woman, I can understand that this is sort of attractive for reasons being not because women are the best drivers in the world, but because women are less likely to be raped or attacked or something by a female driver. So they feel safer. Especially if you're getting a car late at night. Maybe you don't want to get into a car with a man, a strange man. And I can understand that. I have Been in this situation, getting Ubers late at night by myself, thinking, well, I hope this goes well, because I need this ride and whatever. I understand that people are kind of in a pinch, and Uber, with this female function gives women a little peace of mind, and I can understand that. We were talking about this after the show yesterday about all these crazy stories with Ubers, women getting killed. There was a crazy thing happening in Nashville, which I've talked about on the show when I was living there. And I remember I didn't have a car in Nashville, so I had to Uber a lot. And there was a woman who thankfully made it out okay, but she noticed that there was some noxious gas that was being, you know, spread throughout the car. And thankfully she was paying attention. She didn't have her AirPods in, and she noticed that her Uber driver kind of like, put his hood around his mouth while this gas was filling up the car, and she started to feel dizzy, like it was hitting her really fast. So she just tucked and rolled. She opened the car door. They were driving, and she just figured, this is better than wherever this guy is going to take me and do whatever he's going to do with me. So she ended up being okay. And I remember seeing this video that she made on TikTok saying, if you were a woman in the Nashville area and you were taking Ubers, like, please be aware. Either don't do it or walk or something else. Have a friend drive you. Like, worst case scenario, take an Uber. So with all that said and with all of the horrific possibilities in the world that a Uber driver could do to someone, I understand this function, but it begs the question, is Uber verifying that someone is a woman, and how are they doing that? We. It always comes back to the question, what is a woman? And Uber, I think, is probably pretty liberal, I would assume so. I can't imagine that Uber would be like, hey, verify that you are a man. Verify that you are a woman. Maybe a man could identify as a woman and then get a woman driver and do something to her, or vice versa. A man can say, I am a woman, and I only want female passengers. How do you protect women from that? If you understand that that is a reality and that is a problem, then you have to also understand that this transgenderism is a farce. And I don't think that Uber is going to come out and say that. I don't think that Uber is going to say, oh, yeah, we're going to identify, you know, no transgenders, because they're going to get into lawsuits. They're going to get into lawsuits. So, again, this. Any feminist movement is just diametrically opposed to the transgender movement. Everything is going to give woman woman the short end of the stick if you are putting transgenders above them, because then you're putting men above them. And it just doesn't make sense. And I do think that women need to feel safe, and I just don't think that Uber is going to do what they need to do in order to verify this. So I don't know. There's a. There's a company. I forget what it's called. Shoot. I think it's called Black Wolf. Yeah, Black Wolf. And they have. All of their drivers are like former military and former law enforcement, and they are all armed, which I think is very cool. Like, if you want to actually feel safe, find a driver that you know, you like, you trust, get their number and have them drive you personally. But, yeah, this is it, Black Wolf. And it's just so that it's safer where, you know, drivers have experience. It says right here in military, law enforcement, and the security sector. So these are people that they're going to be better equipped to handle a unruly passenger if that comes up. But I don't think that an unruly passenger would take this route anyway. Like, I think that if you are seeking out Black Wolf, you are seeking out a safe ride. And the people who are driving are verified. They have served in the military, they have served in law enforcement, they are serving in security sectors. And we were talking about this yesterday, but any. Any old person can sign up for Uber or Lyft. My friend signed up and like, my friend is great, and her boyfriend signed up too. They were driving Lyft and doing stuff for a little bit, and she was like, oh, yeah, we were accepted in, like a day. You just have to have the right. The right car. You just need to be of age. You need to have a driver's license. But other than that, they don't. There's no background check process. I mean, she was. Maybe they background checked her. I don't know.
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Co-host or Producer
We're.
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We're looking up the requirements now.
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Haley Carnia
We're gonna look up the requirements, but it's just. I don't know. She was. I. There was no interview process. I'll say that. It's not like there was a person sitting down with her saying, hey, like, why do you think you're qualified for this job? It's just kind of like, yeah, whoever wants to do it can do it. Crazy I will say though, I did put up a poll on X. Driver requirement details, minimum requirements, new drivers who have not activate. What? Okay, 25 years or older, one year of licensed driving experience in state, License required, eligible 4 door vehicle, valid driver's license, proof of residency, proof of vehicle insurance, driver profile photo. That's it. It'll review your driving record and criminal history. Okay, so there's a screening process. She was accepted right away. So whatever it is, it's very quick.
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Co-host or Producer
She's a great driver.
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Haley Carnia
Great driver, yeah. Best driver ever. But yeah, I mean people obviously slip through the cracks. So just because you don't have a criminal background doesn't mean you're. You won't forever. Never say never. But I put this poll up on X. So if you guys wanted to hop on there, I said would you rather have a female driver or a self driving Waymo? You know how I feel about Waymos. They're just ridiculous. And 54 said they would rather be driven by a woman than the self driving Waymo. 45.8% I agree. I would rather have a female Uber driver. I have never had a bad experience with a female Uber driver in my life. Actually. I've gotten everywhere. I've really never had a bad experience. I've gotten places safely every time. So for that I am, I am grateful. I was gonna play some Waymo videos, but I think we should just get into this scrolling time that I've promised all week long and haven't gotten to heck yeah. So let's do it. This is, you know how I like my, my airport chaos stories. So this is a little late now. I'm sure everyone has seen this, but Southwest Airline Flight 2094 headed to Nashville, or from Nashville, I should say, to Fort Lauderdale on Friday night. And then they were diverted. They had to land in Atlanta because it was a security measure. There was a security matter on board. Passengers said that a man began praying out loud and then his cell phone alarm started going off and he had this timer going off on his phone every 10 minutes. And a passenger said he was praying in a foreign language, he was sweating and he kept asking the flight attendant where his bag was multiple times. So this is weird behavior, I would say. And this is what that flight looked like. Watch. All right, at this time we need everybody have their heads down and hands up. Heads down, hands up, heads down, hands up. Heads down, Heads, hands up. I need to see everyone's hands. Heads down, hands up, heads down, hands up, heads down. If I was on this flight, I would Be bugging that I would not be a happy camper. I hate flying. I get flight anxiety. I don't like it. I am much better now than I used to be. But when I was younger, I really like. When I was a kid, up until college, I hated flying. I would be so nervous. I would really not eat very much leading up to a flight. Like, I was so nervous. I hated going through security. But now with TSA and all the stuff that I have, I'm fine. I just go through. And I've kind of. I don't know, I've gotten over my fear. But this would send me right back to the trenches.
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Co-host or Producer
I'd be driving home.
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Haley Carnia
I know that I would not. Oh, I would not be. And again, they were going to Fort Lauderdale. I wonder how many people on that flight got a rental car and drove probably 10 hours.
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Co-host or Producer
I feel like it's always going to Fort Lauderdale or to Houston. Like, in all seriousness.
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Haley Carnia
Yeah. All the craziest. Well, they're always going to Florida because Florida's got all the crazy people.
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Co-host or Producer
Spring break.
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Haley Carnia
Spring break. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. This would just absolutely drive me nuts. And honestly, this is very scary. They. They looked into this guy, and apparently it was fine. Like, there was no threat or whatever. But it's like, if you're on a flight, can you not pray in a different language? Can you not freak people out? You're sweating. You're asking people about where your bag is. Can you just freaking act normal? You all know my. My golden rule for airports and airlines. Sit down and shut up. If you sit down and shut up, you're going to remove so many potential issues. Why are you sweating? Getting up, yelling, like, bothering the flight attendants. Shut up. Shut up. I don't care what you're going through. Just shut up.
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Co-host or Producer
What's the end goal is, like, my question to this guy.
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Haley Carnia
He's asking where his bag is. Where do you think it is? Under the plane or in the overhead bin? Where'd you put it? I don't know. Where'd you put it? Me as a flight attendant, I'd be like, where'd you put it? This is why I can't be a flight attendant. Dealing with these people. Just the riffraff. They deserve more money. Whatever they're making, it's not enough. But, yeah. So this guy. Absolutely ridiculous. This woman is even worse. I paid money for it, and I played a video for 30 seconds, 50 sound. And that's the reason you're kicking me off? Hey, if you want to record, then totally Mine. No. Okay. I'm confident.
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Co-host or Producer
No.
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Haley Carnia
No. Okay. Not before recording me. I played a video for 30 fucking seconds. Thank you. Okay. Starting second. Thank you. Thank you, officer. This is the worst kind of person. And again, no less than eight airport mimosas were involved in the making of this video because someone in the chat says she looks like a fat troll doll. There are horrible people on this. On this Earth, slow walkers and people who listen to stuff without AirPods in. I don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear what's on your phone. I don't even like to hear when people show me videos on their phone. I'm like, no, I don't want to watch anything that you're showing me. No, send it to my phone. I'll watch it on my phone with my AirPods in. I hate when people are like, here, watch this. No. Oh, my gosh. I feel like I'm trapped. It's horrible.
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Co-host or Producer
Are you sending us messages?
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Haley Carnia
No.
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Co-host or Producer
Okay.
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Haley Carnia
No. I like when you guys have to send me stuff. I'm not talking about you.
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Co-host or Producer
I'm for sure not showing you. That's for a fact.
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Haley Carnia
Just send it to me. No, you guys is fine. It's. When you're. I don't know. It's.
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Co-host or Producer
No. In public is unbelievable. I cannot imagine ever using your speaker in public ever. I. There's not a single reason for it.
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Haley Carnia
And speaker, go away.
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Co-host or Producer
Speakerphone at the mall is diabolical.
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Haley Carnia
I see women in the supermarket talking on speakerphone a lot.
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Co-host or Producer
Unbelievable.
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Haley Carnia
Why. Why everyone at this point?
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Co-host or Producer
FaceTime too. That's.
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Haley Carnia
Yes.
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Co-host or Producer
Blows my mind.
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Haley Carnia
I don't even. I don't. I honestly. I don't even answer my friends facetimes if I'm out in public.
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Co-host or Producer
Never.
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Haley Carnia
Why would I. I'm like, hey, sorry, can't talk right now. I'm out. I'll FaceTime you when I get home. FaceTimes are for home. I'm sorry. I guess people FaceTime people because they want to show someone something, take a picture and text it. I don't know. The WI fi is never working. Like, FaceTime out in public is a flawed system. You need to be on WI fi for it to work. Then you're on service, and I feel like it's always glitchy. Oh, I can't see you. The service went out. I'm. I'm not a fan of FaceTimes in public. You got to do it at home. You got to do it at home. You got it. And if you have to talk to someone put your AirPods in. So this woman needs to be on the no Fly list. And people are not afraid of the no Fly list. Enough. You know, people. People act a mess, really.
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Co-host or Producer
Flying has been unluxurized. I made that word up in this culture. And it's a problem.
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Haley Carnia
It totally has.
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Co-host or Producer
Totally is a luxury and people don't treat it like it.
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Haley Carnia
Someone said, I FaceTime with my granddaughter who's in Germany. That is wonderful. Do it at home because no one else wants to talk to your granddaughter, wherever she is. Like, this is my point. Everyone has loved ones. Everyone has important phone calls, but it's important to you.
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Co-host or Producer
You can even FaceTime with earbuds in.
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Haley Carnia
Yes. Put your AirPods in. Like, I don't want to hear it. No one else does. Oh, my goodness. All right, this woman. This is the worst. I think this video. If this woman is on my flight, I think I would have to go to jail and I would kill her. Watch. Where are we? Where are we? It's in Mexico. Where are we? Where are we? No, where are we? Why did the mountain Mexico. So this woman landed in Las Vegas and she thought that they landed in Mexico and had a total crash out. If you. There's a way to get the answer to your question without screaming at the top of your lungs and having a full blown mental breakdown. You can. You can actually tap the person next to you and say, hey, like the pilot just said, Mexico. Was that a mistake? Like, we landed here, right? Also, what do you mean? You had a boarding pass. They let you on the flight. What do you mean?
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Co-host or Producer
Is the seat back map with the plane?
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Haley Carnia
Yes. You followed the in flight tracker. You didn't watch the in flight tracker the whole time? What are you, uncultured swine?
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Co-host or Producer
That pilot thought he made the funniest dad joke of all time.
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Haley Carnia
He was like, you know when, like the pilots or the flight attendants will kind of joke around and say, like, oh, well, we're wherever. I don't know, welcome home or, you know, whatever. And he probably did say either that or he just messed up. And he was probably flying for, you know, 16 hours straight or whatever. And he's tired and he made a mistake. There is no reason to scream at the top of your lungs. And this is coming from someone, like I said, who had flight anxiety. Sit down and shut up. It'll help your anxiety. It's making your anxiety worse to start crashing out and making the entire plane have anxiety.
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Co-host or Producer
Have you told our DC to Miami story on the show?
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Haley Carnia
Yes, I told it when we got back.
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Co-host or Producer
We should revisit it for this segment. Just.
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Haley Carnia
This is actually like really weird that. Anyway, I wasn't afraid of him, but it was strange. So Andy, Andy won. Justin and I were on this flight and we were coming back from D.C. and unfortunately we had to fly into Miami. So then we had a two hour drive home after our late night schedule. I will miss. My bad. Anyway, so it's my fault. Anyway, we're flying to Miami and this guy is sitting probably a row or two in front of us and he has a headset on.
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Co-host or Producer
Well, the plane is empty. Like it was an emptiest flight I've ever been on. So we, we walk on the plane and we each have our own row.
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Haley Carnia
Yes, everyone has their own row on the plane essentially. And this guy ahead of us is with his, his lady, I don't know. And he has a full headset on.
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Co-host or Producer
No, it's a half heads. Like the coaches.
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Haley Carnia
Yeah, the coach is on sideline headline. The one head, the one ear. And he's got the mic flipped up to the ceiling. And I'm thinking, you're not talking into it. What? It wasn't plugged into anything. I have no idea. So there was this. It's odd. I mean, again in the day and age, it's 20, 26, we have AirPods, we have headphones, wired headphones, we have all these things.
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Co-host or Producer
We.
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Haley Carnia
Why are you using a headset? Maybe he uses a head. I know some people work from home and they use a headset from home.
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Co-host or Producer
Like maybe gotta be a trucker.
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Haley Carnia
Maybe that was all he had and he was not gonna raw dog the flight. I don't know. But anyway, so he's got this headset on and I kind of forget what happened. Where he started, they started. There was just grumblings happening. Like we could tell that something was happening and the flights didn't. Staff was trying their darndest to make sure that no one got their phones out and no one was going to say anything. And they didn't want it to be a whole spectacle, which I can understand. But there was grumblings happening. So then, you know, Andy, Justin and I are like, what's going on over there? Because, you know, I love my flight chaos. And this guy starts standing up and he's saying that they're treating him badly because he was black or something. Like wasn't it. It was like a racial thing. And I, I forget why he felt that they were treating him badly. Oh, he. Okay. The guy said to the flight attendant, there's no One in the emergency row. And she said, do you want to go into the emergency row? Because she was like, I'm going to have to put someone there. Like, no one's sitting there. As someone's gonna have to sit there. So she said, do you want that seat? Like, are you asking me for that seat? And he said, no, but I'm just making sure that you're doing your job. And she was like, don't worry about me. Like, I'm good. Like, we're fine. And then. So they started fighting, and then he was like, I'm black. And then all of a sudden, the whole situation turned into, I'm black, and now I want to speak to the manager. And then they brought this other customer relations person on board, and she was also black, and they were trying to, like, say that it wasn't a racial thing, because it wasn't. And then they were offering, like, first class or something. And then they kicked him off.
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Co-host or Producer
She was confused. I just wanted for clarification, we are still on the tarmac. We haven't.
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Haley Carnia
Oh, yeah. We were not in the air. This was.
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Co-host or Producer
We were delayed because of these people.
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Haley Carnia
Yeah, we were supposed to take off. We were sitting there watching this whole thing to take, you know, go down. It was ridiculous. I should watch that episode, whatever episode that was, because it was fresh in my mind. The story. I forget. Like, it was something about the. He didn't. He asked to be in a row, and then he didn't want to be in it. It was, like, bizarre. Maybe he was asking to be bumped up to first class because it was so empty. I don't know.
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Co-host or Producer
The absolute icing on the cake was the headset. So obviously Andy and I are making these jokes. We're grabbing the pamphlet out of the seat back pocket and acting like a coach on the sideline, making play calls because it looked like he was about to make a play call for the offense. It was hysterical.
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Haley Carnia
He was making calls. They were the bad ones. And it got him kicked off the flight and his girlfriend or wife or something.
- [64:33]
Co-host or Producer
He got kicked.
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Haley Carnia
Someone in the chat said, oh, yeah, he got kicked off the flight. Someone in the chat said, maybe he was in a meeting. If he was in a meeting, he was pulling the race card with the flight attendant at the same time. So I highly doubt it. It was also like 11:30 at night. It was so late. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, he got. So he got kicked off the flight, and then we got to take off, and then we got to drive home from Miami. It was great. Anyway, this next one, I know we're. We're late here, but I do want to get to all of these because I said I would. So this guy in Jupiter, Florida, he actually had to land his plane on the highway.
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Co-host or Producer
Freaking Cessna going down Indian Town Road. I'm not kidding you.
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Haley Carnia
Not even the highway.
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Co-host or Producer
Jupiter, Florida. This guy must have had to stick it here, I assume.
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Haley Carnia
I don't know where it came from. I turned around to get a video
- [65:23]
Co-host or Producer
of it, but he literally is in the middle of Jupiter farm of Indian
- [65:28]
Haley Carnia
Town, switching lanes, too. He's in the middle of two lanes
- [65:31]
Co-host or Producer
trying to clear all these light poles and stuff with his. With his wings.
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Indian Town's a busy road.
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This.
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Haley Carnia
Yeah. People were saying in the. The comment section, it is such a busy road. I don't know how he found road to land on.
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Co-host or Producer
I was shocked.
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Haley Carnia
I've never been on that road. I don't think so. I don't know. But, yeah, well done to this guy. But this is the. This is the kicker. So cops came, he was able to get off the road, and everything was fine. He landed safely. And his shirt says, my bucket list. Ice, beer. That's the shirt that he's wearing.
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Co-host or Producer
Sir, we're gonna need you to walk in a straight line about 52 times.
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Haley Carnia
My bucket list, not landing a Cessna on the highway. My bucket list is ice and beer. And then the cops roll up and they're like, hey, so you landed your plane on the road? Anyway, I just thought that that was funny. Very cool. And then this last one we just have to talk about. This is probably the most disturbing video I will play on this show. So if you're eating lunch, don't. I'm about to show you guys one of the coolest tricks ever. Say you're traveling and you didn't pack enough underwear, and you're just like, oh, my gosh, what am I gonna wear tomorrow? Every room has, like, a coffee butt thing in it. Every room. Even the other coffee makers were like, brews through. All you have to do put your underwear where you would put the coffee grounds. You close it, you pass brew, and it puts scorching hot water through it, you guys. Then the hair dryer in the bathroom, you blow dry those bad boys, and you got yourself a cleaner pair of underwear to wear. I did not realize how many people already knew this. This hack. I learned it years ago from a friend that was a flight attendant. And it's brilliant. No, first of all, I have heard that you should never order coffee or tea on a flight that the water and the coffee machines or whatever are probably not very clean, which I could understand, but how is that any better than the coffee machines in the airport? They're all probably just as disgusting, but I think most coffee shops are probably disgusting. And, you know, there's mold and coffee and all this stuff. So this. Is this all we know from my Maha episodes, but this hack, I can't even call it a hack. It's a. It's a piece of information that should never have left this woman's lips. It should never have gotten onto the Internet. And she's shameless in saying that she's cleaning her underwear in the coffee. Coffee machine. So do not order coffee on an airplane. Do not use the coffee machine in the hotel room. That is what I want to leave you with. I have never made myself a cup of coffee in the. In the hotel room ever. I feel like there's part of me on. Someone in the chat said there's. There's soap and a sink in the hotel room. I would say, why don't you just pack 30 pairs of underwear like I do, just in case? I just pack three pairs of underwear per day because it doesn't take much room in the suitcase.
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Co-host or Producer
Truthfully, I pack like I'm going to poop my pants 12 times a day.
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Haley Carnia
Me too. Me too. Why do I do that?
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You gotta be prepared. You never know.
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Haley Carnia
Like, I never need to wear more than one pair of underwear a day, but I'm like, let me pack two just in case.
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I mean, I definitely two to three extra. Not a day.
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Haley Carnia
Well, it depends on how long the trip is.
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Co-host or Producer
Like you're on a three day trip. You're bringing nine pairs of underwear.
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Haley Carnia
No, I'm being sarcastic, but I will pack a few extra pairs for. For sure. Yeah. So everyone in the chat agrees. Always pack extra. This is why you don't have to run your underwear, your old stinky underwear through the coffee machine. Oh, my gosh, that's horrible. Also, I have an idea. If you run out of underwear on your trip, go buy new ones. Go buy new ones. That's it.
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Co-host or Producer
And then you won't have. Then you'll have enough underwear for the next trip.
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Haley Carnia
You'll have enough underwear and you can use the coffee shop, I mean, the coffee machine to use to make coffee instead. All right, thank you everyone for watching. You can follow me on social media at Haley Carania, and I'll see you right back here tomorrow. Bye. It.