Joe Salsi (4:05)

She's singing to cut a deal.

Haley Karenia (4:07)

She's.

Joe Salsi (4:07)

She's trying to cut a deal.

Haley Karenia (4:09)

So like, how do you, I mean.

Joe Salsi (4:10)

Motivated to just name everybody, everybody that she's ever known.

Haley Karenia (4:14)

So if Ghislaine Maxwell named names, which she probably did, then the DOJ has to go hunt those people down. Right? They need to look for the evidence. They need to see if they have enough evidence to charge those people before the names are released. Once there's enough evidence to charge someone with a crime. Right. So you have to release a list of people who are actually guilty of wrongdoing. Releasing just a list is ridiculous. But that's what Pam Bondi did. And again, not trying to just place blame on her. She was required to do this because this is what Congress, you know, there was a shitstorm. Everyone got all riled up about Epstein. Then it was transparency. Transparency, release everything. Okay, well then they released everything, and now we have a list of people that maybe they were guilty of wrongdoing, but probably not. We don't know. There is no evidence to charge any of these people. So this is a list of all government officials and politically exposed persons. Okay, so this is what the list says. And there are people on this list that I don't know if they're guilty of anything. Or maybe they were just emailing back and forth or, or what have you. So you know, Bill Clinton's on this list, Hillary Clinton's on this list, George Clooney, Alan Dershowitz, Kurt Cobain, Robert De Niro, David Copperfield, Tucker Carlson, Ben Shapiro, Marjorie Taylor Greene, James Comey, even Pam Bondi and Dan Bongino. Because in this list of people they have FBI documents that are in this. So again, this list is ridiculous. Just because you are named doesn't mean shit. There are people literally cc'd on emails and other government documents in this, in this list that are, that are released. So I wanted to show you guys, just for an example, Ben Shapiro was listed on this thing. So as you know, I've been going through the Epstein files little by little because I don't have all frickin day and there are 3 million pages. So I'm just, you know, doing this drip by drip and I saw the Ben Shapiro thing and I thought, okay, let me just, you can go to the DOJ website, they released everything. You go and search it in. And I'm thinking, okay, Ben Shapiro, I search, I search in Ben Shapiro. He is cc'd on an email from this guy Steve Bayer to Alan Dershowitz. So Jay Sekulow is on this email, cc'd. Mike Pompeo, Mike Huckabee, Sarah Huckabee, General Michael Flynn, all these people. Senator Mitch McConnell, Thomas Massie. We're just trying to think here. But again, I just google or googled, I just searched in the Epstein files, Ben Shapiro, because I heard Ben Shapiro's in the list. Oh, why, right, he's just cc'd on an email. That's it. No, nothing nefarious. He's all, he was just cc'd on an email. This is why you can't do this. You can't just were releasing names and no one did anything wrong. Same thing with Marjorie Taylor Greene, her name is in this a few different times. So I search Marjorie Taylor Greene, there's just news articles about her, news articles about the fact that she wanted transparency, news articles about this, this one. Her name is literally in an FBI daily news briefing. So this is just what's in the news. And Marjorie Taylor Greene's name comes up again on this document. Ag, Garland, Rand Paul. Like there are so many names that are just being swept up in this now for no reason. Now of course, and the Democrats will remind you of this at any chance that they get that President Trump is in the list. Right? So of course, I Search Trump. Not enough time in the day to get through all of the times that he has mentioned. But you know, there are complaints in there about President Trump. There are emails about accusations like Eugene Carol's. But again, this is just as an example, one of the times that Donald Trump was named in the Epstein files, quote, unquote. And it's a breaking news alert. It's a New York Times article about Donald Trump. So again, just because you are named doesn't mean anything. Trump and Melania Trump also named in the Epstein files. They were talking about how in this next email they couldn't believe that Trump won. They thought that Hillary Clinton was going to want and someone. And both of these names in this email are redacted. So I don't know who got the email and who sent it, but people just in disbelief that President Trump won the election and beat Hillary Clinton back in 2016. And oh, I went to visit you in Florida and that's the weekend that Donald met Melania. Anyway, hope you're enjoying. And President Trump thought Melania was a hot piece of ass. Well, she is. But again, this is like the nefarious stuff happening when people are again, all ridiculous. Melania's name is in the Epstein files. I search Melania in these, in this document dump. People are talking about how gorgeous she is. Yeah, you're darn tootin. Yeah, she's gorgeous. Like, hello. And then this one, this is like a little, I don't know, I'm trying to find things that are nefarious. Right? Because I don't know, that's, that's what the left is saying is in this thing. Here's an email from Jeffrey Epstein to Michael Wolf. Achilles heel Melania transcript. Melania also focused on dates of porn star before and after the birth of Baron. Now they have two army people escorting her kids to school. Okay, this is again, nobody guilty of anything. No wrongdoing. Again, I see another email. Someone, again, they're talking a lot of, in this email, a lot of the times Melania's mentioned she's gorgeous, they're talking about how gorgeous she is. This one I can't get behind though. They were saying that Melania looks like Galen Maxwell. Some woman, Laura Woods. Glenn looks very much like Melania Trump. Respectfully submitted. Well, I respectfully disagree. I do not think that Glenn Maxwell and her weird little haircut and all of the disgustingness. When you're that disgusting on the inside, it comes out on the outside. And Glenn Maxwell and Melania Trump are in different stratospheres. But even Elvis Presley's name comes up in the Epstein files. This is just to go, just to go. To show you how ridiculous this has gotten Elvis Presley. So I'm looking this up because I hear his names in it and someone just sent a link to Jeffrey Epstein of the song you're the Devil in disguise, Elvis Presley, saying, you know, we're watching you, Epstein, whatever. So someone sent that, that song to him. That's it. No wrongdoing from Elvis Presley that we know of. This is ridiculous. People's names that are named in articles, in links. Why release that? This is not what people were talking about when they wanted a, quote, client list released, which I believe that they don't have. Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn Maxwell again were jailed for sex trafficking. Minors. What the American people want to know, who did they traffic those minors to? That's the list that people want. But again, I don't care who Jeffrey Epstein was emailing necessarily. So releasing this list is irresponsible in my opinion. Why expose people that didn't do anything wrong? And again, the way that the world works now, nobody does their own research. People read a headline, oh, so and so is in the Epstein files. That must mean they're pedophiles. Well, not necessarily. But now their name has been released in relation to the Epstein files and that's all that people know. People make up their minds and then they run with things. And it's not based in fact. This is ridiculous. And this list, by the way, is probably the closest Bondi was ever going to get to release a list. And it's not helpful at all. Again, this is exposing certain people to unfair online scrutiny. And how is that doing anything productive for the American people or transparency or for victims? It isn't. And again, I'm not just blaming her. It's Ro Khanna, it's Thomas Massie. It's everyone in the media and everyone in Congress that were so gung ho to release everything, but with no, they didn't even know what they were doing. So in the Epstein files, Transparency act, when they say release every, every name. I don't care about names. I want criminals. Ridiculous. And I'm not saying this to defend people who were emailing back and forth with Epstein or friends with him. I think, you know, you are the company you keep in a way, but that doesn't necessarily mean that you are guilty of crimes. We don't have any evidence of that. And you know what? President Trump wanted to move on from the Epstein files, but Democrats were the ones that insisted on pushing. And now their own friends are being exposed, whether they are guilty of wrongdoing or not. And now they're panicking. Whoopi Goldberg is one of those people mentioned in the files because she needed a private jet or a private plane to get to Monaco. She was doing some kind of work with John Lennon's charity. They offered to get Whoopi Goldberg a plane to whatever event they were having in Monaco, and they didn't want to charter a plane, so they were looking into private owners. So there was a. An event that Whoopi Goldberg wanted to go to. The charity reached out to Jeffrey Epstein and company, saying that they were in need of a private jet. You know, would you want to offer yours? Now, that doesn't mean that Whoopi Goldberg is going on the Lolita Express to do anything nefarious with kids on an island. That doesn't mean that right now, despite demanding the release of the files for the last few weeks on the View and slamming Trump's presence in the files, here she is on full panic mode. Now they're. Everyone at the table. Now, all the. All the hags at the table are now defending everyone who's named in this list, saying, it doesn't really matter that she's in it. Watch.

Joy Behar (14:46)

Now, in the name of transparency, can you put up. My name is in the files? Yes. And what does it say? It says, Whoopi needs a plane to get to Monaco. John Lennon's charity, it should say Julian Lennon's charity is paying for it. They don't. They don't want to charter, so they're looking for private owners. Here's the info. And they give all the information, and they're saying, do you want to offer your G2?

Haley Karenia (15:20)

And it looks like they said, no, thanks.

Joy Behar (15:22)

Yeah.

Haley Karenia (15:22)

So in other words, anybody can be on this stage. Anybody's.

Joy Behar (15:24)

Well, this is my point, because I'm telling you, when I tell you people are trying to turn me into. I wasn't his girlfriend. I wasn't his friend.

Haley Karenia (15:33)

You were too old for him.

Joy Behar (15:34)

I was not only too old, but it was at a time, you know, where this is just not. You used to have to have facts before you said stuff, but Trump is.

Haley Karenia (15:44)

On the list 38,000 times.

Joy Behar (15:47)

Well, I can't speak to him, but I'm speaking about me because I'm getting dragged. People actually believe that I was with him. It's like, honey, come on.

Haley Karenia (15:57)

I love how they're still on the Trump thing. Joy Behar being like, Whoopi Goldberg's name in this list means nothing. She was named in the files, but she just wanted a plane. Donald Trump being named. Even more than that. What is Joy Behar insinuating? That the more times you're mentioned in the files means that you're more guilty. And again, no, Trump is not guilty of any wrongdoing based on this list or based on this file dump the same way that Whoopi Goldberg is. I just think it's hilarious that all the ladies on the View, they're saying, you know, Whoopi Goldberg, you're fine. Which she is. She's fine. She didn't commit any crimes that we know of. We have no evidence of that. Same as Trump. But it's just hilarious. But even CNN knows not to blame President Trump anymore. Eric Swalwell tried to insinuate wrongdoing based on Trump being named in the files however many times. But even this CNN anchor admitted, well, Trump isn't guilty of any wrongdoing.

Scott Jennings (16:53)

Listen, the name that is listed the most in these files and talked about the most is Donald Trump. And of all the people that Jeffrey Epstein talked to in the world, and it looks like this guy got around and there are millions of files and Donald Trump's name is mentioned many, many times, up to a million. Some are speculating through the searches. There's only one person that Jeffrey Epstein described as his best friend and that's Donald Trump. But the effort since this summer, and I want to just walk you through the timeline, has been to avoid this at all costs. On the Republican side, it's a cover up job at the Department of Justice, but we're not going away.

Haley Karenia (17:30)

And certainly Trump's name has been in there quite a lot and he still, he has not been accused of any wrongdoing. But certainly it raises questions the way that this release has happened, as you noted from the survivors themselves who have been on this show and have asked why it's being handled this way. So she had to very quickly fact check that statement from Eric Swalwell in real time. She may have learned a thing or two from this exchange that you might remember from last month. Cameron Caskey is a liberal and he was on a panel along with Scott Jennings and he peddled a complete lie about Trump's involvement with a, quote, sex trafficking ring and network. And in that exchange, Republican, resident Republican on cnn, Scott Jennings had to be the one to sound the alarm saying, hey, are you going to fact check this? John Berman, you are in charge of this panel. Are you going to fact check this statement? In real time. But he didn't watch.

Joe Salsi (18:30)

Appreciative that the President is being transparent about this. I would love it if he was more transparent about the human sex trafficking.

Haley Karenia (18:37)

Network that he was a part of.

Joe Salsi (18:38)

But you can't win them all. Cameron's grateful that the President is being transparent about the Nobel Peace Prize and his desires for Greenland. Scott, what do you think about that? You're going to let that sit?

Haley Karenia (18:46)

Are we going to claim here on CNN that the President is part of a global sex trafficking ring or.

Joe Salsi (18:50)

Well, I mean again we're going to talk about the FC files. Scott, I will do the fact checking as we go along here. Repeat what you said about the global sex trafficking ring that Donald Trump was provably very involved with it. Okay, we'll get to that later. I mean Donald Trump has never been charged with any crimes in relation to Jeffrey Epstein. But yeah, but, but let's be, we'll talk, we'll talk about serious satisfied, let's.

Haley Karenia (19:13)

Be adults here and keep pushing lies on cnn. That's what he's saying. And you know John Berman there very defensive because Scott Jennings caught him with his pants down being lazy and not fact checking that statement in real time. And Scott had to remind him to do his job live on air and he got very embarrassed saying oh well I'll, we'll get to the Epstein but we'll get, we'll fact check that later. Now I don't know why but after that exchange a month ago, Cameron Caskey was likely advised by someone, maybe it was his own agent, maybe it was someone in his inner circle who had his best interests, more so someone at CNN to issue a retraction and he did. So it was half assed but he posted it saying this, I would like to retract my comments from CNN last night and truly apologize. Donald Trump was obviously not involved with a giant international child sex trafficking ring where women and children were systemically raped by elites. I said that by accident and didn't mean it. So you can tell he's being kind of coy there and he's being like a little shithead. But he doesn't believe this post. He actually believes wholeheartedly what he said on the air, but he knows that it wasn't true. Or maybe someone in his circle or CNN told him hey, you better make this right because you just lied. And so whether that came from someone on high at CNN or not, CNN has certainly learned their lesson not to lie about President Trump because nowadays he will fight back. President Trump has been undefeated lately when it comes to these defamation lawsuits. And certainly he is on a roll. So CNN knows to be careful because if they are caught lying about Trump or they let lies fly on the air and don't do anything about them, especially tying President Trump to sordid child sex crimes, they will have to cough up $15 million like ABC and CBS had to do. And at this rate, every toilet in presidential. The presidential library is going to be gold. He's building this presidential library in Miami. It's going to be. If he keeps racking up these defamation lawsuits, if he gets CNN on this, if he gets Trevor Noah at the Grammys and all that. I mean, every damn toilet is going to be gold. So I say go for gold. President Trump. I am glad that he set an example with abc. I now cbs and now everyone in the media is scared straight into doing their jobs. It shouldn't take a lawsuit to do that or even threats of lawsuits to do that. But that's what gets the mainstream media to do their jobs. Interest, or at least a little bit. And while CNN is trying to clean up statements on their network, Hillary Clinton hasn't quite figured out how to lie or not lie about her ties to Epstein. Listen to this. Do you regret the links that there have been?

Hillary Clinton (22:09)

You know, we have no links. We have a very clear record that we've been willing to talk about, which my husband has said he took some rides on the airplane for his charitable work. I don't recall ever meeting him.

Haley Karenia (22:27)

Did you ever meet Ghislaine Maxwell?

Hillary Clinton (22:28)

I did on a few occasions. And thousands of people go to the Clinton Global Initiative. So it, to me is not, is not something that is really at the heart of what this matter is about. They are accused and in both cases were convicted of horrific crimes against girls and women. That should be the focus, and it is the focus.

Haley Karenia (22:57)

Who did those crimes to those girls and those women? That is the focus. That's why people are asking questions now about these links to the names in the files. And I thought it was quite funny how the reporter asked, how do you feel about these links to Epstein? Well, there is no link. That's her response. There is no link. However, there is a laundry list of ways that we are linked. And she goes into explaining those links that they did charity work together. Wink, wink. Is this one of their code code names? Is, does charity work mean something else? The same way that pizza might mean something else. The. What kind of charity work were you doing on the Lolita Express? I don't know. Maybe it means charity work, maybe it means something else. Then Hillary Clinton claims to have maybe met Galen Maxwell once or twice. They were at events together, events like Chelsea Clinton's wedding, and they fundraised together. So emails insinuating that, you know, Hillary Clinton was suspicious of her husband's relationship with Glenn Maxwell would probably make no sense if she had never met her. Just saying. And I don't blame Hillary. If my husband was hanging around with Glenn Maxwell, I would also be suspicious about that relationship. But then there are emails in the this document dump about setting up flights for Bill Clinton. You know, again, is there any hard evidence that Bill Clinton was on the island or guilty of wrongdoing? No, there isn't. So to argue that there's no link, though, is a blatant lie. And Jeffrey Epstein had a painting of a certain someone, a certain former president in Monica Lewinsky's blue dress in his house. And I will give you a hint. It was not President Trump wearing that dress in that painting in Jeffrey Epstein's house. It was Bill Clinton. And I think you need to be more than linked to, to have a photo like that of someone in your house. It's just me. But here's another statement from the Clinton family that is a load of baloney. So Chelsea Clinton, this was, I think last week she came out in an interview and said that she left the church when she was six years old. This is what she said. I find it quite insulting sometimes when people say to my mom, my dad or me that they question our faith. She went on, I was raised in a Methodist church and I left the Baptist church before my dad did because I didn't know why they were talking to me about abortion when I was six, in Sunday school. That's a true story. My mother is a deeply, is very deeply a person of faith. It is deeply authentic and real for my mother and it guides so much of her moral compass, but also her life's work. I recognize that there were many expressions of faith that I don't agree with and feel are quite antithetical to how I read the Bible. That's interesting. I, I thought that that quote specifically was interesting. I will take things that never happened for 400, Alex. There is no way that Chelsea Clinton left the church at six years old before her parents did because of abortion. Why would she even know what that is if not for her family? Maybe talking about killing babies at the kitchen table? She said she finds it insulting that people question the Clinton's faith and then provides exhibit A as to why practicing Christians would be questioning your faith. It's hard to argue a pro choice or pro abortion stance and also have practicing Christians take you seriously standing for and protecting unborn life. Again, one of the easiest stances to take. They can't seem to do it. The Clintons. She says opposing abortion is not how she reads the Bible. Well, tell me Chelsea, where in the Bible does it encourage sexual promiscuity and abortion on demand? It doesn't. And if you're more disgusted at 6 years old with the church opposing abortion than you are disgusted by abortion itself, you are the problem and have no understanding of your faith. So it doesn't surprise me that they left the church. I just don't think that Chelsea Clinton was the one that prompted it. Could you imagine a six year old girl? Hey mom and dad, they were talking to me about abortion today, so I don't want to go back. Really? You think that that's what prompted the Clintons to leave the church? I don't buy it.

Alex (27:37)

Well, I've always respected Hillary Clinton for her strong moral compass.

Haley Karenia (27:41)

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Haley Karenia (30:04)

Out of children that are being held in detention centers like this latest one. So Joaquin Castro and also Jim Acosta are making a huge thing about this guy, this two month old baby, Juan Nicholas and he says he has an update on this story. We've been in contact with Juan's family. Juan has bronchitis according to his mom and in the detention center he had bronchitis. So they sent him to the hospital and then he was discharged from the hospital. Then Juan's mom went in front of an immigration judge and they decided that they were going to be deported. Wasn't told when or where, but they are both at the back at the detention center now. They are saying that ICE is very cruel for detaining a woman who has a baby. And he is saying, Joaquin Castro, that he is going to keep in touch with this family and and he's going to make sure that he stays on top of ICE and where they take this family. Then Jim Acosta, he says similarly that this is just so horrible. This is disgusting. ICE is they are monsters. This is what he posted on X or this is Joaquin Castro. Sorry, second tweet here. But he said that it is confirmed that Juan and his family family has been deported. They only had $190 to their names and it's unnecessary to deport a sick baby and his entire family. This is heinous. Blah, blah blah. Okay then Jim Acosta, former CNN anchor if I think if you screen cap it you can scroll down to Jim Acosta's tweet. But he's basically parroting the same things that this is. This is horrific. This is horrible. How could ICE do this? And what I'm hearing is the family wasn't separated. The family stayed together and the baby got much needed health care and then was released back to the detention center where deportation proceedings would continue. And I can't imagine that a hospital would release a baby that was still in need of care. The hospital cared for this baby, Juan Nicholas, and let him go back with his family. That's how this works. You get health care and then when you're better, you leave. And in order to keep the whole family together, they were deported together. Not to mention that all of this could have been avoided if they had come here legally, obviously. But if they had decided to go here legally and, or I'm sorry, if they came here illegally, they still had the option to, to self deport when the Trump administration told them to. They would have had, by the way, $2,000 in their pocket for this stipend. If they listened to the Trump administration. Let me just say that again. Juan Castro is, or Joaquin Castro is very upset that this family only had $190 to their name. If they had self deported like the Trump administration told them to, they would have had a lot more than that. They would have had $2,000. Again, this is on them. It's very sad that they, that their kid got sick, but they got their kid better. And this is the way the world works. There are consequences for your actions. And this just reminded me because all these Democrats, Joaquin Castro, aoc, Hillary Clinton, like I'm seeing all these posts about this baby and Jim Acosta and they're all, they're all upset. This is, is disgusting. This is horrible. How, how could you do this? And they're all upset about the families being kept together. Now just a few years ago, the Democrats were very upset about families being ripped apart. You might remember that during the Trump's first administration it was how dare you rip families apart. How dare you do this? Now the families are being kept together and they're still mad because again, they're just mad at Trump. They're just mad at deportations in general because it's happening under the Trump administration. But I want to play this throwback clip of Tom Homan. Borders are then and now absolutely nuking AOC on this issue of child separation and keeping families together and blah, blah, blah. This is the reality check that AOC and other Democrats desperately needed watch. Which includes family separation.

Tom Homan (34:37)

The same as is where every US Citizen parent gets arrested when they're with a child.

Haley Karenia (34:44)

Zero tolerance was interpreted as the policy that separated children from their.

Tom Homan (34:49)

If I get arrested for DUI and I have a young child in a car, I'm gonna be separated. When I was a police officer in New York and I arrested a father for domestic violence, I separated that.

Haley Karenia (34:58)

Mr. Homan, with all due respect, legal asylees are not charged with any crime.

Tom Homan (35:06)

When you're in the country illegally, it's Violation 8, United States Code 1325.

Haley Karenia (35:10)

Seeking asylum is legal.

Tom Homan (35:12)

If you want to seek asylum, go through the port of entry. Do it the legal way. The Attorney General of the United States has made that clear.

Haley Karenia (35:19)

Okay, okay. She just. She admits defeat.

Alex (35:23)

Mr. Homan, with all due respect.

Haley Karenia (35:28)

I can't think. With all due respect, legal asylees. And again, you can call them legal asylees, legal observers, they have all these words that they throw around now that they think protect you and shield you from any consequences of your wrongdoing. If you're a legal observer and then you go kick a taillight out of a car, they're thinking like, oh, well, you're a legal observer. So therefore, everything you do is. Is fine now. That's not how the world works. And again, Tom Homan. Tom Homan gave them. Gave AOC and all the Democrats in the room back then. The reality check that doesn't matter if you're an American citizen or not. If you break code, you are going to be held accountable. Right? And you're not immune from being held accountable because you have kids. You can't use your kids as a shield, Even if you get pregnant on stolen land. Even if you get pregnant on stolen land.

Alex (36:28)

No.

Haley Karenia (36:28)

Doesn't matter.

Alex (36:28)

On stolen land.

Haley Karenia (36:29)

What?

Alex (36:30)

No one is pregnant on stolen land.

Haley Karenia (36:31)

No one. No. These people, they do. They come here, they get pregnant on stolen land because they think that then their baby will not be Their. Their baby will just be immune to all of these issues because they. They do this anchor baby thing where they think, oh, I'll just have an American citizen, therefore my kid's an American citizen. They won't deport me. And it's like. Well, no, that's. Anyway, the whole Obama dreamer thing, it's all ridiculous. But anyway, they just. Even if you have a baby on a stolen land, you shouldn't use it as a shield.

Alex (37:04)

Okay, Maybe we should consult Hillary Clinton and her impeccable moral compass.

Haley Karenia (37:09)

Yeah. What would Hillary Clinton do? Actually, I don't want to know.

Alex (37:15)

Wwhcd.

Haley Karenia (37:17)

Yeah. Ooh, ooh. Never Mind, I'm not going to say it. All right, so this clip of AOC also went viral, and I should have used this yesterday during the show because I opened with my whole monologue yesterday was about AOC being an idiot. And then this comment came on my feed and I just have to play it. Watch. And if you can't make the first basic step to say, listen, if you are in this country and you are not black, you benefit from a system of white supremacy. It has nothing to do with the hate in your heart. That's not your fault. Nothing to do with character. It's just the conditions upon. With, with which you were born. And by the way, even within the black community. No, it's colorism. Even within the Latino community, colorism, whether you're light skin, your tone, all of this, your hair texture conversation right now.

Alex (38:08)

Huh?

Scott Jennings (38:08)

Your hair texture, your hair texture.

Haley Karenia (38:11)

All of it. All of it. And so it's, you know, the, the first step that people say, oh, well, you know, I don't consciously do anything. You don't have to consciously do anything. Like, like, we're. We're in it, man. We, we are.

Scott Jennings (38:24)

You do. You do have to consciously be working to unravel it.

Joe Salsi (38:30)

And if you're not, and if you're.

Scott Jennings (38:31)

Impeding progress, you are guilty.

Joe Salsi (38:34)

As guilty as those that were oppressed, oppressing us. Right?

Scott Jennings (38:39)

Because you're impeding progress and not acknowledging your privilege.

Haley Karenia (38:44)

Podcast equipment is too cheap. It's just too cheap. I don't know what they're talking about that it's not just white supremacy. So, aoc, there are a lot of things in this clip that are funny to me. AOC says that if you are black, then you are oppressed. If you are anything but black, you have benefited from white supremacy. Then they start going deeper where even if you're black, but if you're light skinned, you're. You're benefiting from white supremacy. I don't know how they're doing this mental gymnastics. Then if you have a certain hair texture, you're benefiting from white supremacy. It seems to me like nobody's really benefiting from white supremacy. Not even black people. Not even, like, they're unraveling. And he's like, yeah, we have to unpack this and, and whatever. And it's like, no, the more that you guys talk about this, the more that you're making absolutely no sense and you're debunking your own thought.

Alex (39:39)

Favorite, favorite podcast. AOC seems to have done this a couple times. Like, whoever she's talking to says the dumbest thing you've ever heard.

Haley Karenia (39:45)

She's like, exactly, of course. Of course. So she said in that clip, exactly, exactly. And they're like, yeah, basically, if you have a certain hair texture, you're better than other people. And she's like, yeah, yeah, exactly. That's exactly what I meant. I'm just wondering how AOC has benefited from white supremacy. And it's. It's funny because she likes to play the Latina card and stuff, but I guess none of that really matters based on these statements that if you're not black, you benefit from white supremacy. She's not black. And I don't know, maybe she has. She really. She grew up in a nice neighborhood and. And all that stuff. I mean, maybe. Maybe she has. But let's get into this next story, because I wanted to talk about this yesterday and just needed to do a deep dive on this transgender shooter. Another one, guys. Another one. We talked about one last week. This is a brand new one. This guy opened fire at his son's senior night hockey game in Pawtucket, Rhode Island. Shot his ex wife, shot his ex wife's parents, his son, and a family friend before killing himself. The ex wife's parents and the family friend are still alive but in critical condition. Unfortunately, he did kill his ex wife and his own son. I say unfortunately because those people did not deserve it. He killed himself. I would say that's not unfortunate. At least three bystanders were able to identify that he was wearing women's clothing at the time of this shooting. And these bystanders were able to briefly stop him, but unfortunately, he had this second gun on him, and that's when he shot himself. So nobody should be shocked at how this transgender killer was covered in the news and with the law enforcement. Watch this clip. What I can say right now that we have identified the person, the suspect, by a birth name. The birth name was Robert Dorgan. We have also learned that the person does go by the name of Roberta, also uses the last name of Esposito. But again, that will be all. Huh? They. They say everything except he's transgender. They use all these words. Well, he goes by this, and he goes by this name. He went by two names. Like, just say it. Just say. Just say the truth. He's transgender. And I know law enforcement has to stick to the facts and not, you know, say things that they don't have evidence of, but let's not beat around the bush. If the guy goes by two names and one of the names is female. Let's put two and two together here. It's not like he goes by a nickname. It's not like his name is Jonathan and he goes by Johnny.

Alex (42:32)

You can tell in a lot of these press conferences by the police that they really don't want to say it, but they have to.

Haley Karenia (42:40)

They don't want to say what?

Alex (42:41)

That he's trans?

Haley Karenia (42:43)

But they're not even saying that he's trans exactly.

Alex (42:45)

Like, they. Like, even as she's talking about, oh, he has a birth name, and now she's like, I know this is gonna come back in my face, but I have to say it right.

Haley Karenia (42:54)

But this is the truth. But I wish that they would just, instead of, like, skirting around the truth, just be truthful with people. We're all gonna find out that he was transgender. It's a grown man. He's like, he's wearing a little, like, cheetah print shirt, and he looks like a bodybuilder. It's like, what are you hiding? Hello. You're not hiding this from us. We know that he is transgender. It's a grown ass man in a pink tank top. Hello. Hello. This is a man in a women's sunglasses and with a boob job. This is crazy. Justin's laughing at this photo. It's ridiculous to say, oh, well, this is just a. It's a man who goes by two names. Okay, Let. Let's just. Let's all tell the truth now. He's not just transgender. He. He actually changed his name. I don't know if this is technically transracial or what it is, but his name. And I don't really repeat the names of criminals on this show. You know that. I try to do that, but just for the sake of this argument, I have to take tell you, he went by Robert Dorgan. Now he goes by Roberta Esposito. So now he's Italian. He wasn't Italian before, but now he is. He's. He's assuming a new identity, not just with his gender, but his. His. His background. His. His ethnicity is totally different. I just think that's ridiculous. Why won't the trans community call him out for cultural appropriation?

Alex (44:37)

They'll anyway, and they're all worried about getting a new ID when you get married. This guy changed his last name and.

Haley Karenia (44:44)

His first name and changed both names and his gender.

Alex (44:46)

He changed everything.

Haley Karenia (44:47)

That's probably what this is.

Scott Jennings (44:48)

And he can still vote.

Haley Karenia (44:51)

Can he?

Alex (44:52)

No. Not anymore.

Haley Karenia (44:53)

Right? I don't know. That's. That's interesting. That's probably what this is all about. It's not that they're so concerned about women not being able to vote, because, hello, either change your name before or after the election or bring the marriage certificate. It's really not that hard. It's much harder for transgender people to imagine the documentation that they need. Birth certificate that doesn't match anything.

Alex (45:19)

Is it like, proof of surgery?

Haley Karenia (45:22)

Yeah. There's got to be a doctor's notes, like a certification. Like, instead of a marriage certificate, it's like a bottom surgery certificate they need to bring to vote. Again, completely avoidable. If you just don't chop your penis off, you can leave it on. You can leave it intact how God intended it, and you can vote, no problem. But the New York Times originally covered this story by saying, like everyone else, the killer went by two names and obviously got heat for that because, again, it's not like he was going by Johnny instead of John. He was obviously transgender or gender confused. But here is how the reporter justified it. So people were coming for him on X. And. And here he goes. Patrick Healy from the New York Times. Some readers thought we were initially ignoring the identity of the shooter. We weren't. Oh, no, we weren't ignoring it. Hold on. This is what they were doing. We were reporting to verify facts. Shootings are hard to cover because information at first can be partial, speculative, speculative, or inaccurate. We are doing.

Hillary Clinton (46:31)

We.

Haley Karenia (46:31)

I'm sorry. We do reporting to make sure that facts are right. Once we were confident in the facts, we updated the story to report the shooter went by a man's name and a woman's name. Again, weird, roundabout way of saying transgender, but. Okay. Was the shooter transgender? The police haven't said it's because they're afraid to. I don't know why. It's the facts. We did more reporting to confirm more details so we could bring people more accurate information. We regularly cover mass shootings and shootings that are in public interest. We rarely cover shootings that are more domestic in nature, like this one appears to be, unless it's newsworthy. In this case, it occurred at a high school hockey rink amid children and families. So that's what makes it more interesting to the New York Times to cover. Okay. In our coverage of shootings, we focus on verifiable facts of the incident while they are emerging, rather than rushing to ascribe motives or play up personal details. They never want to play up personal details unless it's a straight white man. As if we know the personal traits caused the shooting. The motive isn't confirmed. We are still reporting. And there's just a difference in how they cover this shooting or shootings with a transgender shooter versus anyone else. I mean, the media is so quick to attribute these personal descriptions to people, oh, it was a white guy. And then anytime that it's not a white, straight white man, then there. It's just, it's hazy. The details are hazy. They're still working them out. They're still doing their reporting to figure out, you know, the details. But if it's a straight white man, takes no time to release all that information. If we could just pull up some more photos of this, this shooter here, again, just to show how mentally ill this man is. No man in their right mind, no sane person is cross dressing in real life. And I actually feel very badly for the family because he apparently transitioned in 2020, and that's when his wife, poor wife, may she rest in peace, divorced him. Because this is obviously not the man that she married. This is a man that is very obviously and publicly struggling with his mental health to grow his hair out, not that makes you crazy, but again, to look like a woman, to wear different clothes, to go through top surgery and to flaunt it in this way shows that this is an extreme form of body dysmorphia and dysphoria, gender confusion. And he's not even acting very female, which, I mean, obviously, but you would think people who want to go the mile, the extra mile to go through top surgery and bottom surgery, you would think that they would try to act feminine, but they don't. They don't because they can't. It's just nature. But as we know, a lot of these transgender individuals are mentally ill and they are violent. They become violent. And we don't know necessarily if it is because of the cocktail of SSRIs they are on or other gender affirming drugs. But a lot of these people, and I'm using the terminology that this shooter used, they go berserk. So, and, you know, posted this screenshot on X and this shows that the shooter was saying, keep bashing us, but don't wonder why we go berserk. And this was a comment that he had left on a post about Congressman McBride, who goes by Sarah, the first transgender member of Congress. You can scroll down here and see the post here, but if you click on it, there's a picture of Sarah, who goes by Sarah McBride, Tim McBride, the congressman and the shooter posted Keep bashing us. This is a post on Alex Jones's Twitter where he was talking about Congressman McBride. And the shooter says, keep bashing us again. Don't wonder why we go berserk. And it seems to me like he was provoked online and was radicalized in some way. Obviously very mentally ill, obviously violent and dangerous and willing to go to that violent place because of, I don't know, this confusion surrounding his gender identity. And it's very sad that he not only took the lives of people around him, but injured people around him, all because of the hurt and pain that he is experiencing. And this is why, you know, we on the right call out this transgender nonsense, because we don't want people to get to that point. We don't want people to go through surgeries and be on this medication for life and become big pharma experiments. We certainly don't want it to happen to children. The sooner that we can help these people, the better, and the sooner that we can get them the help that they need instead of the affirmation that they think they need, the less shootings that we are going to see, the less acts of violence that we are going to see play out like this one. And unfortunately, you just have Democrats that are holding the line. They are holding the line for these transgender people. They. They never want to admit that there is something wrong with these people. They want to. They want to affirm this behavior and continue this behavior. And this is Congresswoman Pramila Jayapal saying that we're actually all just jealous of trans people. That's what. That's what this is. It's jealousy. Watch. To trans people everywhere. I also want you to know this. Those people are threatened by your strength.

Hillary Clinton (52:26)

By your joy in being fully who you are. Those who fight against trans people are.

Haley Karenia (52:33)

Just jealous of the freedom that they have taken to be fully who they are. And so those people just want to.

Hillary Clinton (52:42)

Destroy that rather than imagine what it.

Haley Karenia (52:45)

Would be like to be fully who they are. Wise words from our young people. Wise words. Yes. We're all just jealous of trans people who are mentally ill, and they render themselves undateable and undesirable for the rest of their lives. Yeah, we're all super jealous of that. Wise words. Let's get into scrolling time. All right, I. The first two videos just show this trans lunacy that we're discussing. So this first one, it's a. It's a transgender individual that gets very easily rage baited. I don't know if it's extra testosterone or if the estrogen didn't kick in yet or. Or what it is, but watch this.

Joe Salsi (53:41)

Get the out of my face now. Oh, now, that was very rude of you. Get the out of my face. You want to go to jail, sir, ma', am, I don't really know what to call you. You're done, man. I'm done with the police. You just insulted me. Well, listen here, pal. I mean, you are gonna go to jail, and I could tell the police to get you. I'm vegan, so don't say that. Listen, you really get the out of my way right now. Okay? Yeah, yeah, we'll do that. You do not have a release. I will sue you. You're gonna sue him? Don't sue him, man, because we're trying to just. I don't ever. You do not have a release. If you post this, I will destroy you. I will destroy you.

Haley Karenia (54:17)

I will destroy you.

Joe Salsi (54:19)

Just keep going on double down. I got my crew with me now. I got my crew. Yeah, yeah.

Haley Karenia (54:27)

What's up? You could tell, like, he was kind of, like, wanting to take the gloves off. He wanted to take his pink blazer off really bad to start the fight, but then he was like, oh, shoot, if I take this blazer off, no one will know that I'm a woman, damn it. Except for the fake boobs, but committed.

Alex (54:43)

The high crime of insulting him.

Haley Karenia (54:46)

He was like, listen here, you're done. He was like, you're man, sir, woman. You're done. The testosterone takes over. The. The. The boys will be boys. This is the epitome of boys will be boys.

Alex (55:01)

You've insulted me. Time to be destroyed.

Haley Karenia (55:03)

Yeah, let's. Let's fight it out. Let's go behind the bleachers, gloves come off. We're very angry, and they get so angry so quickly. This is what I'm talking about with this trans violence. It's. It's very scary. They're very easily triggered, very easily raid baited. And it's all very emotional. And it stems from their issues inside.

Tom Homan (55:23)

They.

Haley Karenia (55:24)

If they are not affirmed, if what's going on. The. All the delusion in their head, if it is not affirmed by the world outside, which. Why would it. Because none of this makes sense, and it's just delusion in their head. Why would we affirm that? They get so angry that what's going on? And again, they can fix this. You can go to therapy and fix this, but instead, these transgender people go to therapy, they find some woke therapist, they go get affirmed, and then they chop their bodies up and they mutilate themselves, and then they're still miserable. No kidding. How could you. Someone in the chat said, not very feminine behavior. See him about to rip his shirt off. That's what I was saying. Like, oh, he realized, wait, I'm a woman or I'm pretending to be a woman. I can't take my top off. Anyway, this next one is even worse. Watch.

Joe Salsi (56:12)

Fun fact, trans women also get periods. Really? Yes. You get a period? Yes, I get monthly. I get monthly cycles. Do you get monthly cycles? Yep.

Haley Karenia (56:20)

So the.

Joe Salsi (56:20)

The lining of your uterine wall is falling apart. I get draining. That's your uterine wall. See, that's. This is the fun part due to not having a uterus. The weird part is I still get the cramps, but I just don't get the. I just don't get. The weird part is Lupron messing with your body.

Scott Jennings (56:36)

Oh.

Haley Karenia (56:37)

What?

Joe Salsi (56:37)

I said, are you sure it's just not the Lupron messing with your body? No, it's an actual. You don't think so? Yeah, I got. I got the full on, like, emotional cycles and everything. Yeah, but you're saying you have a period, though. I do.

Haley Karenia (56:47)

Yes.

Joe Salsi (56:47)

But you don't have any blood leaving you. There's no thinning of the uterine lining, which is what a period is. And some of the results of a period are cramping.

Haley Karenia (56:54)

Yes.

Joe Salsi (56:55)

So you have similar symptoms on a period. Yeah. But you don't have a period at all. You have no period because you're a man.

Haley Karenia (57:01)

Oh, good lord. First of all, if men had any idea what having a period is like, they wouldn't want it. They wouldn't want it. And whatever this fellow is experiencing is nothing like a period. He will never understand. He just will never understand. And for the men watching, I'm not going to get too into details here, but this man does not have the organ possible to make menstruation happen. He doesn't have the organ that is cramping. When he says that he's experiencing cramps, and I don't know what that is. Maybe he needs to take a shit. Maybe he's. Maybe he has, like, diarrhea or something, but he is not. His uterus is not contracting. He doesn't have one there. It's just simply not possible. So maybe he has a tummy ache, but it is not the cramps of his uterus. I even feel silly saying his uterus. You guys know what I mean? Like, he doesn't have a uterus, but there's just no way. It's just not possible. And again, you trust me, you don't want to feel this but they want to. I don't know what this is like. He says, well, my hormones, I go through cycles, and he's going like this. The man's hormonal cycle is 24 hours. A woman's hormonal cycle is 28 days. We are very different. We are apples and oranges. We are. We are the same species, but we are very different, male and female, very different. We're. What he is experiencing is nothing like what women experience. It doesn't matter what drug you are on, what therapies you are on. There is nothing that can even replicate that in a man. It is impossible. It is impossible. The only transgender people that can get periods are women who become men because their body is producing the function that it's meant to do. And, you know, even if they go on testosterone and all these things, they might lose their period eventually, but it is not how their body intended. It is just a farce. All of this is lies. And again, they are so mentally ill that they believe it. They want to be included in this womanhood club for some reason. And I don't know what is so appealing about it, other than maybe a sexual fetish. I think that's what's making these men transition to women and dress up as women, because there's three to one trans women to trans men. What I mean by that is men who become women are way more popular. There is a lot less women that are trying to become men, which is interesting. And I think that on some baseline level, you all know that I think that these people are mentally ill, but I think a lot of it stems from some kind of a deviant sexual fantasy type thing where these men want to become women. It is bizarre, and it should be called out, and it should not be affirmed by any means necessary. It is just. It's ridiculous. And we're moving on from trans issues for the rest of the show. So sorry that you had to go through that and see these things, but we like to make fun of it here. And this next one is just hilarious. I like that there are conservatives that are messing with these protesters. These are anti ice protesters. And as you know, even Governor Tim Walls in Minnesota was making sure that his National Guardsmen were handing out donuts and coffee. And so maybe these protesters thought that they were getting a treat, but they were getting trash instead. Watch. Hey, I got. Hey, I got you a pizza, bro. Y' all want a pizza?

Joy Behar (60:46)

Here.

Haley Karenia (60:53)

Thank you. I love you. It's just trash. They finished the pizza. They finished the pizza. They put all Their garbage in there and then just handed it and I love. She takes it. Thank you. We love you. Thank you. We love you. Yeah, no problem.

Alex (61:10)

Always trust a car full of people recording what? Always trust a car full.

Haley Karenia (61:15)

Yes, of course. Yeah, of course. But as you know, they're just legal observers. They're just legally observing the passage of the pizza off to the. The. I don't know, the libtard over there, she's got purple hair, the septum piercings all. She's got all of the. All of the necessary accolades. And yeah, she, she. You could just tell that these people are liberal. They just. They have a look now they look like antifa. It's weird. All right, this last one that I have for you cracked me up last night because some young person, probably a high schooler, middle schooler, or high schooler, posted this on Tick Tock saying, my school is doing a protest on Friday. Can y' all give me poster ideas? And the comment section did not go how this individual intended it to go. They got a lot of ideas. And do you guys remember Coney 2012? Do you remember that? This was like a huge phenomenon in my school that, like all these people kept falling for. It was like some propaganda video about, I don't know, like child, military and Africa somewhere. This is just like, based on my memory. I don't really know what it was all about. But anyway, people fell for this propaganda so hard in school. Coney 2012. It was like, we have to do something. And like, what are we going to do about kids in Africa? I don't know. It's just stupid. But I wrote I'm a follower. And a lot of these people in the comment section were just giving ideas that were cracking me up. This is what you should actually put on your poster. ICE found 3,000, 364 missing unaccompanied children in Minnesota alone. My teacher. My teachers have indoctrinated me and I have no idea what I'm protesting. The real protest would be thinking for yourself. My teachers are brainwashing me. I should have stayed in school. If Kamala had won, I'd be in math right now. You do realize that ICE freed over 3,000 trafficked kids this month, right? Why would you protest that? Mine would say, I stand with Lake and Riley. Thank you, ice. I like that one. Another, thank you, ice. Justice for Lake and Riley. Go, Trump. Get back to class. I should be learning so I don't end up an activist. Not going well for them. Ice melts sign. I went to Leering center. I love maga. Again, all the names of the individuals, the American citizens who have been killed unfortunately by illegal immigrants. I have bad parents. Please give us social media views. My parent. My parents don't have 34 felonies. Stupid. Public education has failed me. I'm mad because someone told me to be and I fall for propaganda every time someone else. I attended the Quality Leering center of Minnesota. I should be in school learning. Listen, there are a lot of good options here, but the best option would be to not protest at all and just stay in school and. And learn real things that would help you in real life. But unfortunately, that's not happening. That's just not happening in our education system right now. So that would be my advice, to not be a follower, but be a leader and stay in class. All right, thank you for tuning in. You can follow me on social media. Ayleycarania H A Y L E Y Remember, I'm on X. I'm on TikTok. I'm on truth social. I'm on Facebook. I've got a page up now and I'll see you right back here tomorrow. Bye.