Scott Bryson (6:07)

Among them that they did get.

Hailey Karenia (6:08)

They do know what he looks like. Sunglasses, mustache, male, possibly white. And possibly white. Okay. So here to break that down and so much more is retired Secret Service agent and host of beyond the Service podcast, Scott Bryson. Thank you so much for being here, Scott.

Scott Bryson (6:27)

Thank you for having me. It's good to be here.

Hailey Karenia (6:29)

Awesome. I want to get first your reaction to this CNN reporting. And I will say I've worked in media for my whole career and I've produced in breaking news situations. And, and I'm not giving Aaron Burnett the benefit of the doubt, but just so people know you might be covering a breaking news situation, you get a call from executives at the top and they say you got to stretch. We're covering this for the rest of the hour. And in situations like this, you might not have a lot of information. So you might only know there was a shooting at a. A office building in midtown Manhattan and you have to stretch. And you would have a guest on like yourself and, and it's very hard in those moments to not start speculating. But you can't speculate. And based on that photo, I'm not sure how she got possibly white. But certainly you don't start speculating when you just don't have the facts. All you have to say is, we don't know yet.

Scott Bryson (7:30)

Yeah, you're exactly right. The problem is the news media, the mainstream news media has an agenda. They don't report the news. They have propaganda. It's a propaganda machine. Chris Plant says it very well. If it wasn't for double standards, there'd be no standards at all. They're basically apparatchik for the Democrat Party. You know, Barack Obama's half white, but they don't say that. They say he's half black. It's whatever fits their narrative. And they always want it to be a MAGA guy, a white, heterosexual MAGA person is what they're always Hoping for.

Hailey Karenia (8:02)

Yeah, it's like this is what she wanted it to be. This is what she wanted the shooter to look like. And I mean, I guess she's not wrong by saying possibly white. I mean, the shooter could be possibly anything. But to your point, it just goes to show that they're hoping for one outcome rather than another. But based on this photo of. He's walking around in, you know, it's. It's daylight still, 6:30pm Eastern time in New York City. He's walking around in New York City. A lot of the commentary that I saw on social media reacting to this photo is how could something like this happen? How can someone walk around New York City with a rifle like this and no one step in, no one say something? What say you?

Scott Bryson (8:46)

Well, we talk about this a lot on my podcast and of course, I do a lot of videos on Instagram as well. And there's a thing that I'd like to talk about called the color codes of awareness. And people are in condition white most of the time, which just means they're oblivious to what's going on around them. There's a wider angle of this shot where two gentlemen are behind him and looks like they're 40 or 50 yards off to. To his. Behind his left shoulder. Now they're not on their phones. A lot of people walk around with their heads down, you know, their noses in their phone. And I fuss at people about that all the time. Like, pay attention to situational awareness. You have to. You don't walk around paranoid, but you have to walk around paying attention. And you should be able to leave work and go to the bar or go to the train station and be talking and thinking about what's next that night without having to worry about this stuff. But you can also pay attention. I think it's called Happy Medium. And a lot of people, you know, I refer to them as sheeple. And I'm not trying to be mean and I don't want to. It's not the two dudes behind him, it's not their fault. But people are just oblivious. And unfortunately, the. The media, the mainstream media, not. Not stuff like this, not your show, but they've. They've talked about toxic masculinity till they're blue in the face. And there's. Unfortunately, and I don't make this about me, but there's a lot. There are some alpha dudes out there. There's some type A's, Dan's one of them. You know, there's some Type A dudes out There. But unfortunately, there's a lot of beta males, and I know it would take a lot of courage to come up from behind this guy and tackle him, especially. He's got a weapon, much less a shoulder weapon. I understand that would be very, very hard. I'd like to think I would do the right thing, but very few people enter. You see it all the time on subways. People are getting raped or beat up, and everybody's got their phone out filming. I don't understand. Where are the men? Step up.

Hailey Karenia (10:28)

Oh, absolutely. I was talking about this with my producer Andy, earlier because he called me and we were discussing this story and. And we talked about the bystander effect. The bystander effect is, well, I'm not going to call someone because surely someone else has already called. And then that makes me freed up to just take my phone out and film it. And hopefully I go viral on social media, this whole social media era. And I'm. I'm guilty of this in that I'm always on my phone. I'm not guilty of, like, I'm still a human being. If I saw someone getting hurt, I would step in. And it has happened to me. I lived in New York City for seven years, and I was on. I remember I was on a 4 train going uptown, and I got on at Bowling Green station. I remember this, like, yesterday. And I remember this. And thank God I got on the last train, the last train car, because if I didn't get on the last train car, I wouldn't have known which car I was on in the subway. But it was me, one other woman sitting right across from me and a couple at the end of the train car. And all of a sudden, the man in that couple starts beating the you know what out of his girlfriend. And in that moment, it's horrifying because you're sitting there and you're thinking, okay, if I step in, and I want to step in because there's a woman getting beaten, but I'm also a woman, and that means I'm probably next, right? Like, if I step in to try to help this woman, I mean, this other woman and I are sitting. We're making eye contact, sitting across from each other in the subway. And it's like, you know, we're like, pathologically asking each other, what are we going to do? And we get to the next station. Thankfully, it was fast. I got out. She got out after me. We went into the next car. I called the police, and they asked me what trainer you are. What station are you at? Because none of the police officers are in the subway. It's mind boggling to me. That's where all the crime happens. And they're like all sorts of sitting around in Times Square together. It's crazy to me, but I remember calling the police and they said, what car you want? I said, the last car, it's going to be in Wall street station in probably like two minutes. And they're like, perfect, we'll be there. So I don't know whatever happened with that, but I feel for you in that moment. And you're trained, you know, you're a former Secret Service agent. I'm not trained in any of this, but I kind of understand that feeling like, I want to jump in, I want to help, but I don't know if me jumping in is going to help, if it's going to do more harm than good.

Scott Bryson (12:57)

Yeah, no, I think that's very fair assessment, too. But you have to realize, and I don't want to ruffle feathers by saying this, but it's biology. You know, men have a role and women have a role. Right? And God made us uniquely different. And, you know, not all men are, you know, built like Dwayne Johnson. I understand that. But you don't have to be, you know, a woman can do exactly what you did and call 911 and get help. Getting involved. Getting involved is not always the answer. I want to be very clear that getting involved is because there might be two or three victims. If you don't think you can physically handle the guy or the situation, absolutely stay out of it.

Hailey Karenia (13:33)

Right.

Scott Bryson (13:33)

But I'm talking about men who are fit. Men are capable. And there are women out there. Like, there are some MMA women that can handle business. Right. But not everybody is. I have a lot of women in my life. I wouldn't want my daughter or my wife or whomever to get involved either because they. Their physical stature is not big enough. But if you're a man, that's why it's important to take care of ourselves. We talk about this on my podcast, too. Staying physically fit, men and women. But men are supposed to be protectors where the providers. I know that's old school and a lot of people don't like to hear that. Probably a lot of people watching your show probably agree with that. But, you know, as a man, I just can't understand how you would sit there and watch something like, I don't want anything bad to happen. I really don't. That would be psycho. I could be a psychopath. I don't think bad to happen, but it's like. It's almost like if something's going to happen, it's like when I was working with the Secret Service, I was sick of my stomach when July 13th happened, because I had been retired for a couple of years. I don't want anything bad to happen, but if it does, I hope I'm working, if that makes any sense. And I think any. Anybody worth their salt feels that way.

Hailey Karenia (14:34)

Yeah, absolutely. And I want to talk to you about July 13th also, but I want to get our New York conversation over with first. But I. I liked something that you said, that men are supposed to be providers, are supposed to be protectors. There's. I think we should be encouraging everyone to go to the gym. That shouldn't be controversial. I think everyone should be in the best health that they can possibly do. And if you have, you know, a medical problem or an injury or something. Sure. I'm not talking about you, but I think, for the most part, everyone should take their health very, very seriously, especially because it can help in a situation like this. But why do you think there are seemingly more beta men than alpha men these days?

Scott Bryson (15:18)

Well, I think a lot of it gets back. It's twofold. There's a lot of answers, but we'll just focus on two. I think that the nuclear family has been destroyed, and I think that started in the 60s, and that's been intentional for a lot of different reasons. And then, of course, now mainstream media has got an agenda. Of course, all the spiritual. I think it's spiritual warfare with the transgender stuff and the. All the LGBT stuff. It's. You know, I just think that we're dealing with certain things that we can't necessarily see. And we can talk about it in depth later, if you want to, we can talk about another time. But, like, I do believe in spiritual warfare, and I believe that there's an unseen battle that we can't see. And I think sometimes this stuff manifest. Well, not sometimes. I think a lot of times it manifests itself in humanity. And this is how. How we see the end result. And we say, well, he had mental health issues, which he did, but what does that mean? And I think if you do a deep dive on that, and, you know, I'm no theologian or anything, but I think if you start really getting into the psyche of it, I think there's something to be said for the unseen world, too.

Hailey Karenia (16:20)

Yeah, I tend to agree with you on that. And, you know, I think a lot of men do the best that they can with what they're given. And in a New York City, it is next to impossible to. To have a firearm, to protect yourself, because there are, you know, a stack of paperwork like this. When I worked in New York City, I worked at Fox News, and of course, lots of my colleagues were conservative and we wanted guns and things like that. And my coworker was like, forget it. The stack of paperwork is this high. And not only that, you can't leave your firearm unattended if you leave, you know, when you're in New York City, you're very close to New Jersey and other parts of, you know, and you can't leave the island of Manhattan unless you leave your firearm with another person who has a concealed carry. And it's like. That's like a unicorn finding, you know, two people who have a firearm. Like, unless you're in law enforcement, it's like, impossible. So, you know, we would always joke about that, like, they don't. They want us to not be able to defend ourselves. It seems like that in a big blue city, not just in New York, but in a lot of places. And, you know, I think the men in this situation on the 33rd floor, maybe Guy, you could pull this up. But there was a photo that was circulating on X where they were piling up all of these couches and desks and things because the shooter was on the floor and they were trying to barricade themselves in. It was the only thing that they could really do to protect themselves. And it's very difficult because a lot of workplaces, even in red states, don't allow you to carry in the office, even if it's a constitutional carry state. Like, I was in Tennessee, and we couldn't have firearms in our workplaces. And, you know, most companies have some sort of a firearm policy where they say, well, you have to leave your firearm in the car. And it's like, well, what good does that do if someone mugs me on my way to the car? Or what good does that do if a shooter breaks into the building?

Scott Bryson (18:25)

You know, it's. I don't really. I haven't quite figured it out. It's a question I've been wrestling with for a few years now. It's almost like you said, they almost. It's like they want something to happen, and then you have to be pretty sick and twisted for that to happen. But unfortunately, these blue cities in these blue states seem to really want the bad guys to. To prevail and not like, you know, we've Talked about defund the police. We're not talking about much anymore, but for the four years prior to Trump getting back in was defund the police. And I don't understand that. I've been in law enforcement for 30 years and the only thing that's going to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. And you know, like some of these recruiting officers, like let's just say Marine Corps or Navy, if you're going in, 18 year old kid and you want to go in and sign up for the military, it's a gun free zone. Well, these bad guys know that. And I want to be careful here because, I mean, I know you have a big audience, but you know, I'm an older gentleman now and I'm all about asking for forgiveness instead of permission. And if you truly carry a gun, and I'm not suggesting that people should break the law, so I hope people don't twist my words. But you know, if you're, if you're carrying concealed, you should, you should abide by the law for sure. And you should know what the laws in your state are. However, you know, at some point you have to ask yourself what's your appetite for risk? But mine is I live and I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6. And I know that's cliche and that's old school, but that's just how I feel.

Hailey Karenia (19:47)

I totally agree with you. And I think that there needs to be armed security guards at every school door, every place of worship. To me, this solves a lot of issues because bad guys with guns will be met with multiple good guys with guns. So the odds are in our favor, right? And then, you know, it's also if there's a security guard, an armed security guard at every door, right. Of every school, every place of worship. To me, you know, this creates jobs, right. I think that that's, you know, a perfect world. But morale is so low and recruitment levels are so low among police officers and law enforcement officers. How do we make law enforcement a career that more people want nowadays after all the defund the police?

Scott Bryson (20:36)

Yeah, that's a good question. I think you have to pay your people. Teachers are another category, right? You get what you pay for. And I don't mean that to be disrespectful at all because I have been a sheriff's deputy, I have been a officer, I have been a federal agent. But one of the reasons I decided to go federal was because I wanted to be able to provide for My family and I couldn't do that now that we're going way back into the 90s, but I couldn't do that making $24,000 a year. But it's all relevant right relative now because the cost of living. So you may be making your 50 or 60,000, but you live in San Francisco or New York. And how do these guys do it? You have to be willing to pay. These executives are making millions and billions of dollars. That's good. If your company is making multi million or multi billion dollars, that's wonderful. I say go get it if you go get it. But at some point we need to reevaluate. And I'm not talking about distributing the wealth like the left is talking about, but like we have to, we have to up the ante for the teachers and for the police officers and people like that, because otherwise why would you want to do that job?

Hailey Karenia (21:36)

Yeah, I totally get it. And speaking of New York City and socialist crap, if you will, New Yorkers voted for Zoran Mamdani to be the Democrat candidate for mayor. And he wants social workers to respond to domestic violence cases and other situations like that. And I'm not insinuating that they would send a domestic, I'm sorry, a social worker to handle the situation like we just saw last night. But is there, in your opinion, any situation in where a social worker would be better suited than a law enforcement officer?

Scott Bryson (22:15)

Well, I, I used to work with some social workers very closely and they are wonderful people and they have a wonderful, they have a very significant role to play. But not. It's not law enforcement. You know, one of the most dangerous things you can do other than pulling a car over is go to a domestic. If, if a man is beating his wife and then the cops show up, there's a time to talk and there's a time to act. And unfortunately, you know, sometimes people, the only thing they're going to respond to is physical presence and physical, you know, a physical reaction. You know, just like these, the terrorists. I know we're not talking about that. There's. There's a place for diplomacy and there's a time to, to act. And you can't send a social worker in there. It's just a horrible idea. I don't. The people that come up with this stuff, they, they're living in ferry fairy tale land. They just, you know, come out. If you think that's a good idea, I would recommend doing a ride along at your local police department, especially on a midnight shift, even in a small town and see how you like that.

Hailey Karenia (23:19)

Yeah, I would imagine that lots of social workers wouldn't be equipped to handle some of the situations that law enforcement officers are trained to handle. And you know, to your point, there's a time and place for social workers and that's wonderful. But there's also a time and place for law enforcement and I think they deserve to be celebrated for the sacrifice that they, that they do every single day when they go to work. So I want to get your take on this. Sorry, you go, you go ahead.

Scott Bryson (23:49)

No, all I was going to say is like what's going to happen if you roll into and you could what if it to death. But what happens if you send a social worker to a situation and the guy needs to be arrested?

Hailey Karenia (23:59)

Right.

Scott Bryson (23:59)

First of all they don't have arrest authority. And then how's 120 pound woman going to rest a guy who weighs 250 if he doesn't want to do. It's not happening.

Hailey Karenia (24:06)

Yeah. And she's probably not armed to your.

Scott Bryson (24:09)

She's not armed. Not armed. And she's also not got the authority to do it. It's just, it's a horrible idea.

Hailey Karenia (24:14)

Yeah, I agree with you. And another horrible idea is how the left glorifies murderers like Luigi Mangione. Luigi Mangione was the United Healthcare CEO. And you know, I fear that the glorification of Luigi Mangioni it fosters a, a society that is just normalizing this kind of behavior. Luigi Mangioni was, he shot the HealthCare UnitedHealthcare CEO in broad daylight. He wasn't even a United Healthcare that wasn't even his provider but he was just a disgruntled hurt person and he decided to take it out on this random man. And it's horrible. And you see the social media response because leftists loved his cause. They thought that he stood for the man and sticking up to the government and big corporations that are robbing people and a lot of people who want free health care agreed with Luigi Mangioni which is insane. They're siding with a murderer like a cold blooded evil murderer. And not only that, on social media there were thirst Trap videos made and edits making Luigi Mangioni out to be this like sex symbol. And then when I see more shootings like this take place in New York City begs the question like was the left's reaction? Did the left's reaction cause this?

Scott Bryson (25:45)

Well, I think words matter. They love to say that. You know, they like to talk about rhetoric. Well what about your own Rhetoric. I mean, when Obama was in office, that's when those five Dallas police officers got killed. They were, you can only say things for so long. They love to call Trump a Nazi and all this other stuff. That's their favorite thing to say, or a MAGA nationalist, whatever the heck that is. I, it's like you have to be careful what you say. I mean, look at Maxine Waters and all these people, you know, get in their face, harassment, restaurants. I mean, some of these people that are listening to this stuff, like Rush Limbaugh used to say, they're low information voters and they're going to do what you tell them. They're basically just waiting. They're just, they're getting riled up. And the Democrats or the left in particular, they do all their things off of emotion, where we tend to argue our points from data points, right? So it's like two plus two will never be five. I don't care how much you want it to be, it won't do it. And so I think we come at it from a analytical perspective and they come at it from all raw emotion. And, and they just, they're misinformed. I mean, they did the same thing with the Ted Bundy show. I think it was on Netflix or Prime, whichever outlet it was on. And their kids were dressing up like him for Halloween. They just uninformed. And they're just, they're, they're eating up everything that's told to them. It's like they're brain dead.

Hailey Karenia (27:00)

Yeah, I agree with you. I want to move now to July 13th because you brought it up earlier. And as a retired Secret Service agent, I want to know what you think about why we have very limited information about Thomas, Thomas Crooks, the shooter in Butler Pennsy.

Scott Bryson (27:19)

How much time do you have?

Hailey Karenia (27:21)

I mean, that's as long as you want.

Scott Bryson (27:24)

That's an interesting topic. You know, how many 20, 20 year olds do you know that don't have a social media footprint? Let me just let that simmer for a minute. I mean, allegedly, what I was told when they got to his house, not only was his house spotless, you could have eaten off the floor, which is odd for a 20 year old, but he has no social media footprint. Was he working with someone? I don't know. I have my opinions. I think that the deep state is real and I think it's deep and I think it's wide. And I don't mean just in America. I mean the globalist and the whole thing, which I'm sure you agree with. But I don't want to cast aspersions because I'm not sure, but I have ideas. Like I don't know how a 20 year old kid gets 130 yards away from the would be leader of the, you know, the former leader of the free world. I have, we can talk about the security mishaps too if you want to, but like as far as that guy goes, you know, if it walks like a duck and quacks, it's probably a duck. And I just, I have a hard time believing that he was alone.

Hailey Karenia (28:22)

Yeah, I mean there's too many things to have gone wrong. It's like a perfect storm. I say this, it's a perfect shitstorm. And I say that about Epstein too. Like too many things. It's almost perfect how wrong everything went and it, you know, anyway, I am, I have questions about how a 20 year old got these, you know, this gun into a Trump rally. I've been to a Trump rally before. It's high security. It's normally high security. They, you go through a metal detector. So again, how he got around this? Not sure. It just seems like, huh, like did someone let him in? Is it someone in the Secret Service or. I don't know, it just seemed odd that they would be such a mishap like that. Then I saw videos from the ground, people on the ground filming up at Thomas Crook saying there's a guy on the roof, there's a guy on the roof. Now how on earth could Secret Service agents not know that and not see that if there are regular civilian people on the ground noticing that? I don't get that.

Scott Bryson (29:35)

No, I don't. I don't either. And one of my best assignments that I ever had with the Secret Service was I was promoted to go back to the President's detail when Trump first got in. And I was the detail leader for Eric Trump. So I lived in Manhattan and Eric and I became very good friends and I love him so much. The Trump family is amazing. And we talked after that and he was devastated like a normal person should be, like a normal son should be. And he was asking me these questions. Number one, I don't think the Secret Service was culpable. Now did we, did we do a horrible job on the security plan? Yes, they get an F minus on that. Okay, now I keep saying we, I'm not there anymore. But it's just 25 years. It's old habit. But the Secret Service failed the final. Okay, so the buck stops with them. But I do have a hard Time believing that this young man had a shoulder weapon in a perimeter that was secured with magnetometers and dogs and police and agents. I just, it makes it just. I just, I don't know who it was. I don't know that we'll ever know. And I know that was your original question. You know, why don't. I don't know. I, I think Trump would like to know. I don't even think Trump knows. You know, it kind of gets back to the whole area 51 stuff like these presidents, they're the president, but it's need to know. And if the Air Force doesn't tell you, they're not going to tell you. And if the Congress isn't going to tell you, certain they're not going to tell them. So these presidents, I don't think they're read in on everything. And that's got to be extremely frustrating, especially when you were the victim. Not only you're the leader of the free world, you're the doggone victim. And the Secret Service, like, if I was the. And like, by the way, I want to be clear. Sean Kern is the director of the Secret Service. And I know Sean very well. He's a good man, and he was the detail leader for Trump that day. And I just don't understand, you know, I wish, I wish he would kind of come out and say, you know, what the deal is. Like, I think, I think we do need. I don't think we always. I think the American public, like, feels like they need to know things sometimes that we don't need to know. Some things are need to know, but I feel like this is like the JFK files. Like, what's the secret? Like a bad guy tried to kill a good guy. Tell us about it. I mean, how. Why is that a problem?

Hailey Karenia (31:39)

Unless that's not the story. And here's the thing. When there is a lack of transparency, and to your point, maybe this is so high, you know, top secret that the American people won't know or shouldn't know. And maybe that's true, I don't know. But when we have this lack of transparency, that is where conspiracy theories are born. That is when people start having questions and they start running with it because no one's stopping them. And to your point about Sean Curran and whoever else was there on that detail, say not, not coming out and saying things. That's interesting. And to your point about the Secret Service failing and getting an F, I agree with you. What's interesting is that they have said since then some of the agents that were there that day were suspended temporarily. They were demoted, but no one was fired because they said that this was a Secret Service Agency wide failure. Do you agree with that response?

Scott Bryson (32:44)

That's a tough one. Let me say this. I know a couple of the individuals that were in the Pittsburgh field office that, that's Butler's area, falls under Pittsburgh. And I know a couple of those guys. So it brings me no pleasure saying this because I worked with two of the guys, one on the Counter Assault Team and once on ppd. They're good dudes, very competent individuals. Should they have been reprimanded? Yes, I think they should have been reprimanded. Should they be fired? I don't want to go that far. I mean, I don't know. People do. It wasn't intentional. I mean, I don't think. Because you're the figurehead. Yeah, the buck's got to stop with you for sure. But you're only as good as your lowest common denominator. And I. If you're going to. Not you, but you, plurally, if we're going to go down that road, then we got to go back into the hiring panel and to who hired the DEI hires. And I don't want to start throwing shade on these individual female agents or whatever, but. Because I know they've been put through the ringer. But DEI is a problem and we've lowered the standard. And one of the things I preach on my podcast is the standard is the standard. You know, if you're going to be a Navy seal, you got to get through buds. I don't care what your skin color is. And if you're a woman and can do it, God bless you. But here's the standard. You have to meet it. And the Secret Service, in my humble opinion, has lowered their standard over the last. I don't know how many years. It took me two and a half years to get that job. You know, back in the 90s, it was hard to get in. The attrition rate was like 1%. And Dan, talk about that, too, because we're basically the same vintage from way back then. And it's just. I don't know. I don't think it's the same as it was back then. I think it's kind of the case across the federal. Federal government, though. I'm not making excuses. I think it's. I think it's horrible.

Hailey Karenia (34:20)

But that's.

Scott Bryson (34:20)

I think that.

Hailey Karenia (34:21)

And I. I think mistakes happen. Right? We're human. But at the same time, these are the people tasked with protecting the President of the United States. And you can't make mistakes like that. I mean, by the grace of God, President Trump is not dead today. By the grace of God alone. I mean, he moved his head not even an inch, and it just grazed his ear. It could have been so much worse. And to your point about proving yourself and being the best of the best, like, and not being a DEI hire, like, how do you pick out the Secret Service agents that are equipped to protect the President? Like, how do you prove yourself as being the best of the best? Because I think the best of the best were not chosen that day.

Scott Bryson (35:08)

No, I totally agree. I worked for a man. I'm not going to say his name because I don't have permission. And he's an awesome individual. He was the sack, the special agent in charge of PPD when I was there. And I work. I work for many different sacks. That's the boss, right? And so this individual was just an amazing human being. And he was. We were standing in the White House one day. Bush, you know, back in the day, President Bush, 43, was a big runner. And then when he was in town, he would just run around the south grounds because he couldn't go running through D.C. not very safe. So we were standing in the portico kind of watching Bush run. And he. And he called me Scotty. And he said, hey, Scotty. You know, he said, if. If a person wants to be on ppd, I think they should be able to go through the CAT program. Now, he had been a cat guy, and I had been a cat guy. So cats, just the Counter Assault Team. It's basically the SWAT team for the Secret Service.

Hailey Karenia (36:00)

Okay.

Scott Bryson (36:00)

Basically, the standards are pretty high. And if you can't make the standards, Secret Service qualification scores are 70 for firearms. Cat guys have to shoot 90, and they have to do some different things, too. And the PT standards, really high. He was basically saying, if you can't make it through cat, you shouldn't be on ppd. And. And I totally agreed with him. The problem is not many people can or want to do it. And so you. You have a handful of guys working all the time. It's absolutely ridiculous.

Hailey Karenia (36:25)

Yeah, I. We can only hope that the Secret Service makes the changes needed to make sure that nothing like this ever happens again. And I really do hope that we get some information about Thomas Crooks and, and some of the other issues like January6 and others. And I really do appreciate you coming on. I love your insight. I need to have you back on Soon. So in the meantime, where can people follow you? Your podcasts on social media, everything you do, you have great survival tips, safety tips, everything. So you're just a wealth of knowledge. And where can people go find you in that?

Scott Bryson (37:01)

Well, I appreciate you saying that. It's Scott Bryson, BTS for That's just short for beyond the service. Well, we have a podcast that's on YouTube. We're trying to get some stuff put out on Rumble. Now. I've been fussing at my boys about that. So we're trying to get on Rumble and we're on Instagram, TikTok and X. Amazing.

Hailey Karenia (37:22)

Scott Bryson, thank you so much for joining Nightly Scroll.

Scott Bryson (37:25)

Thank you for having me.

Hailey Karenia (37:26)

Awesome. Wow. A wealth of knowledge. I absolutely love that interview. I meant what I said. I have to have him back because I have so many more questions that we could. We could really go down a Secret Service rabbit hole. So stay tuned for that. All right, I wanted to take a quick break to tell you about blackout coffee. Blackout coffee is the good stuff. This is what I drink in the morning. You should too. They are a small batch family owned roastery right here in Florida, crafting bold premium coffee that actually delivers on flavor and none of that burnt corporate nonsense. So whether you like it strong, black or smooth with a little bit of cream, they have got a rose for you and they ship fresh to all 50 states. So wherever you are, you can get your hands on it. And because you're part of my crew, you get 20% off your first order. Just use code Haley. That's H A Y L E Y at checkout or hit up blackout coffee.com/haley to grab your bag. I personally love the cinnamon flavor. That's what I drink here in the studio. I love it. So stop drinking We Coffee. Make the switch to Blackout Coffee today. Blackout coffee.com/hayley. Use code hayley for 20% off your first order. Should we just get into some scrolling time? I have so much show planned, but I didn't want to cut Scott short because he was awesome. So let's go into scrolling time. Someone in the chat said about time. I mean, what do you want me to do? I had a great interview. I got my ads in. Scrolling time is as fast as humanly possible. We can get it to you. All right, this first one is very indicative of New York City and where it's going. So watch this.

Scott Bryson (39:17)

And now I want to sit back and relax.

Hailey Karenia (39:19)

It says, enjoy my evening. You accidentally set up your picnic next to the furry meetups. And yes, There is pride, Trans Flags, and they are. It's just a few girls. They're sitting around, they've got a little picnic set up. They're. They're drinking their. Their seltzer, their wine, their snacks, and all of a sudden, freako. Freakazoid men are hopping around with their dog ears and their cat ears on the dog ears.

Producer Andy (39:48)

Did you see that in the. In the park?

Hailey Karenia (39:51)

No, I have never seen a furry in real life.

Producer Andy (39:54)

Some of them have, like.

Hailey Karenia (39:57)

They've got, what, like, full costumes? Oh, I know it. Don't they. I don't. I don't want to get in trouble here and insult people, but is this. This is the kind of person that goes to, like, Comic Con, or is furries different?

Producer Andy (40:08)

No, I think furry is its own little kind of, like, subsection group, maybe. I don't mean that in a hobby. I don't know anything about them, but, like, I do know they're identified, right? With the ears, probably.

Hailey Karenia (40:21)

Yeah. Yeah. Part of me is, is it like a. A fetish thing? Is it a sexual thing, or.

Producer Andy (40:30)

I believe it is. I believe that's sort of the root. Root of it.

Hailey Karenia (40:34)

But then it. It begs the question, are furries becoming so mainstream that this is why there are the kids going to school, and they're saying, I identify as a cat and I need a litter box, or I identify as a dog. Ruff, ruff. In school. Is that why that's happening? I don't know.

Producer Andy (40:57)

We're just laughing at that bark.

Hailey Karenia (40:58)

Ruff, ruff. I don't identify as a dog, but. But anyway, it's crazy. And when I was watching it, I didn't know that it was New York City at first, and I thought. I said, okay, it's obviously a blue city. It's on the water. I saw the W in the background, and I was like, I think that's Hoboken across the water there. And I checked the girl's profile, and it's New York City. And I thought, yeah, she's sitting on the west side Highway. I never saw it, but it's certainly happening. I also, Oh, I saw a video on TikTok once. Maybe I could find it. Maybe I'll play it tomorrow or something. But there was a wedding, and they set the wedding up, and there was a furry convention at the same hotel. Could you imagine? You're dressed in your gorgeous wedding gown, you're getting ready to marry the love of your life, and there's fricking furries walking around the hotel lobby, full costume furries, full Costume furries.

Producer Andy (41:51)

I mean that's like a panda and a wolf are walking around. I mean straight like, like an NBA game mascot. These things cost thousands of bucks and these, these furries buy them and, and they cannot smell good in there and you know, get to know each other, I guess at a furry convention.

Hailey Karenia (42:09)

I already know those suits smell so bad. I would not want to be anywhere near them. Totally mentally ill, by the way, I think if you're an adult, and I'm not talking about the mascots at games or whatever, but if you are a self proclaimed furry, you put on a costume and you go meet up with other adults who wear these costumes and it's some kind of like a weird fetish or something or like a hobby. I think you have a mental illness. I'm just gonna come out and say it. I get the same vibes as a Disney adult. Disney adults aren't as bad as furries. But it just seems like you have some sort of unrepressed childhood trauma that hasn't been dealt with and you get joy out of things that you should leave in childhood. But you're an adult. It just seems like it's a mental illness. So make asylums great again. That's all I'm gonna say.

Producer Andy (42:58)

Yeah.

Hailey Karenia (43:00)

All right. I want to get into this Ulta controversy. So again, I was talking about the Sydney Sweeney stuff. Someone on TikTok said I need to hear your take about the Ulta controversy. So some conservatives have vowed to never shop at Ulta again a la Bud Light. Because Ulta had has decided to feature Queer Eye star Jonathan Van Ness's hair care line. Many of you will probably be surprised or even mad at my take. But before I get to that, watch this.

Ulta Representative (43:30)

JVM here is now at Ulta and I'm here to see the display for the first time. You guys. Hi, honey, what's your name? Nice to meet you. Paulina. Nice to meet you, honey. Nice to meet you. We're gonna see what JV and hair looks like an alta for the first time. Time. It's going to be Ulta fun. Okay, let's see it.

Hailey Karenia (43:51)

Who's that?

Ulta Representative (43:52)

She's so pretty. I got highlights since then. Do you think it's pretty?

Scott Bryson (43:55)

It's gorgeous.

Ulta Representative (43:56)

Do you think she's going to get along with all of her other new Ulta friends? She's just right in. She does, right? JVN Hair is now at Ulta Beauty nationwide. We love the hair you have.

Hailey Karenia (44:07)

Okay, my first reaction is the over dramatic. Like, I mean it's Very annoying. But this is who he is. He, he's always been. This is a gay guy. He was on Queer Eye. You guys remember Queer Eye with the straight guy and all that. So this is who he is and he's always been like that. So I, even as a gay man, I don't think he's trying to act like a woman. I don't think that he's putting on this like woman costume and, and mocking women. This is how he has always acted. But Ulta just did this collaboration. And here is how conservatives have been reacting as a whole. Here's one of the examples on, on TikTok. Watch this. So it says Ulta just did a collab with this dude pretending to be a girl. Ulta could have celebrated real women. Instead they chose a man in makeup and called it progress. I am never shopping at Ulta again. Now you have every right to not want to shop wherever you want. I personally don't participate in boycotts because I think they're rooted in cancel culture and I don't subscribe to that. I think that cancel culture is lame and it should be over. So I don't participate in this kind of thing. But I get it. Conservatives don't want to give their money to Target or Nike or companies that don't ally with their values. And that is a. Okay, so this woman in particular and others have decided to boycott Ulta over this. And again, that's totally fine. But here's why this controversy is odd to me. I actually don't think it's a controversy at all. Jonathan Van Ness is a celebrity. He was the star of or one of the stars of the Netflix reboot of Queer Eye. Basically a modern day redo of the popular show from the 90s, Queer Eye for the Straight Guy. It's a makeover show very similar to what is that show on tlc, what not to wear. Right. So this was very popular in the 90s and early 2000s where you would pick this person off the street and they looked like a mess and they'd get fixed up on this reality television show and Queer Eye for the Straight Guy. And now the modern Queer Eye is exactly that. It is picking this guy up off the street. His, his coworkers nominate him and they say he really needs a makeover. Whatever. So Jonathan Van Ness is one of the gays that helps make over these men and women who need a makeover. And Jonathan Van Ness was the hair care and beauty expert on the show. He is a hairstyler. He's a Hairstylist. He now has millions of followers and is an influencer. So to me it makes total sense that he would have a product of or a product line of hair care products. He's one of the only celebrity hairstylists I can name right now. So Ulta giving Jonathan Van Ness a kiosk in their stores is expected. And if you don't go to Sephora often or Ulta often, these beauty supply stores, I will fill you in. These little setups in the front of the store, they come and go. They will highlight a brand or a product for maybe a season, maybe a month, maybe a few months, and then it rotates and they feature someone new. So this argument that Jonathan Bendass is taking a spot away from women is simply not true. Not to mention all of the men who are professional famous makeup artists, like world renowned makeup artists who deserve their spots in Ulta and Sephora. Patrick Ta, makeup by Mario Patrick Star, Jeffree Star, just to name a few. So if conservatives are really anti dei, meaning we don't care who gets the job, whatever the position is or the award or whatever, so long as they are the best person for the job, then you should have no issue with these men having featured products at Ulta. They are the best of the best. And they're not taking spots away from women. Women are also crushing it in the beauty space. You walk into Ulta or Sephora, there are tons of female owned brands like Road Rare Beauty, Haus Labs, Fenty Beauty, Tarte Cosmetics, Anastasia Beverly Hills. I could go on and on and on. You cannot factually argue that by giving Jonathan Van Ness a spot in Ulta, women are not succeeding. It's just not true. And I think people are applying the argument that I frequently make in protest of trans women in women's sports. You all know how I feel. Women deserve to have a level and safe playing field. Biological men have no space in women's sports. But the same argument cannot be made for biological men in makeup or beauty, especially when they deserve to be there. Now, I will admit I don't fully understand all that is going on with Jonathan Van Ness. He was gay. He still goes by he him pronouns, but I guess he considers himself genderqueer and sometimes wears women's clothes. Fine, so long as he's not hurting anyone or demanding to use the women's restroom or take away women's scholarships or beat them in sports, who cares? Let him wear a dress, let him wear makeup. Lots of gays in the beauty industry do and they're great at what they do. It's not like this guy is, you know, running the Pentagon. Like, and I am with all of you, like, I don't think that DEI has a place in a lot of these places, like in the military and in the President's cabinet and things like this. I think if you are the best at what you do, then you deserve the job. And in this case, Jonathan Van Ness is a highly successful hairstylist. Like, he. If anything, he deserves to be here. I do not have a hatred for trans people, gay people, or anyone in that community. And if you have a problem with someone in that community just because you don't like the way that they dress, that's something that you can wrestle with. But I am going to say congratulations to Jonathan Van Ness on this collaboration. It is well deserved. And I know people are going to be mad at me, but you all know I don't care. I say how I feel, and sometimes I go against the grain. So that's my take on the ULTA controversy. That, to me, is not a controversy at all. All right, this next video got me cracking up laughing. And it is a guy who. And we can have a conversation about squatters rights. It's totally insane that people can just show up in your house and they stay there long enough and then they have rights. It's like, what?

Producer Andy (50:39)

I do not understand this.

Hailey Karenia (50:40)

It's so insane. I do.

Producer Andy (50:41)

Not at all.

Hailey Karenia (50:42)

This should be like a bipartisan thing that everyone in Congress, everyone in the Senate comes together, left, right, center, and says, this is something that we need to do away with. I don't know how this isn't already done. It just seems like it blows my. We can all agree on it.

Producer Andy (51:00)

Is there something in the legalities of the paperwork that they signed to go into an Airbnb and then just never leave? I mean, is there some sort of loophole that says they can't physically be knocked out? I mean, why in the world can't they just be drug out of these places? I don't understand.

Ulta Representative (51:13)

I don't know.

Scott Bryson (51:14)

But they never do.

Hailey Karenia (51:15)

They're people living years. I don't know. So, anyway, this guy had the perfect response to squatters.

Squatter Rights Commentator (51:20)

Watch this one thing that's so funny to me about the squatter law, where they're like, oh, if you stay at someone's house for 30 days, you get to take over their residence. I think that idea is so funny to me because you're not going in and out. You're probably hiding inside of my house for the 30 days. To get, you know, your squatter rights.

Scott Bryson (51:38)

So that means no one's looking for you.

Squatter Rights Commentator (51:41)

What do you think I'm gonna do to you when I notice that you're in my house? You're not leaving. I'm gonna up blow your dome off.

Hailey Karenia (51:47)

And nobody's looking for you.

Squatter Rights Commentator (51:50)

So, like, that idea is always, like, it's always been funny that they'll try to get their cameras out. Like, oh, there's one squatting my residence. No, I'm gonna kick your head in and blow your dome off. And no one's looking for you, clearly, because you've been here for 30 days. You've been warned.

Hailey Karenia (52:06)

I totally agree.

Scott Bryson (52:07)

He's got.

Producer Andy (52:09)

Outside of the violence, he's got a point.

Hailey Karenia (52:10)

He's got a great point.

Producer Andy (52:11)

Nobody cares enough about where these people are that they're allowed to stay in somebody else's house for 30 days.

Hailey Karenia (52:17)

Totally. No one's looking for you. Again, I'm not saying that I'm not condoning violence of any kind, but it is true. I mean, if you were gonna, you know, vigilante justice, take matters into your own hands, I mean, no one's looking for them, so something to think about. All right, this last video, this woman posted this on TikTok saying that she was at her wedding, celebrating her wedding. It looks like she's at the bar, she's feeling herself a little bit. Maybe she had a few drinks. Then she says she was six months pregnant at the time. Didn't know it. Huh? Watch this post a time when you were pregnant and didn't know. She's feeling herself at the bar. She's in her wedding dress, apparently six months pregnant, didn't know. Now I'm going to turn my iPad on so we can go through the comments together because, listen, I know you're not supposed to body shame. I know you're not. You're not supposed to say congratulations to a woman if you don't know if they're pregnant or not. That's rude. You don't want to assume that someone's pregnant. But here. Here's what people said in the comments. That baby is waving to us, and you don't know. Someone else said, girl, you knew. Someone said, my Grandma passed in 1987 and she knew. Someone said, everybody knew. I knew and I wasn't there. The whole wedding party knew. But you, Stevie Wonder, could see that you were pregnant. And I have to agree. I'm not trying to body shame, but that lady looks pregnant. And I know you're not supposed to you know, you're not supposed to assume, but now that I know she's pregnant, I'm saying, yeah, where the bridesmaids at?

Producer Andy (54:09)

I mean, where's her.

Hailey Karenia (54:09)

People got to step in.

Producer Andy (54:10)

Where's her crew? That's just like the wing woman. You know what I mean? That's just like, hey, you preggers, put.

Hailey Karenia (54:17)

Down the tequila, girl. Anyway, I. I hope that baby's okay. But anyway, that's all I have. I want to tease a little something for all of you. On Friday, I'm going to be hosting Vince, so you're going to see me at 10am Eastern time. Same girl, new time slot. Okay? And it's not going to be Nightly Scroll. I'm not going to, you know, I'm going to. I'm going to try to do my best Vince impression and do a serious news show for all of you. So I will deliver that. The kind of news stories that I do at the top of my show. Maybe I'll end the show on something a little fun just to give people a taste of what Nightly scroll is about. Then people who watch events and they don't know anything about me, maybe they'll like it. Maybe they'll. They'll say, yeah, I need a little fun in my evenings. Maybe we'll get some new homies in the chat after I host events. And I will be also guest hosting his radio show as well, co hosting with Jim. So that'll be a lot of fun. My first time doing radio ever. So I encourage you to join me on Friday for all of these, all of my firsts. Okay? It'll be a lot of fun. So I'm excited. And I will still be doing my show that night as well, so. Very busy gal. Thank you for scrolling along with me and watching this evening. You got to do it on rumble. Rumble.com Haley, just a reminder to go to the Bongino Report channel. Smash the like button. Make sure you're subscribed so that you never miss a show, even if you watch on Rumble. Go over to Apple Podcasts and Spotify, leave a review, leave five stars, say something nice. I appreciate it. And of course, you can follow me in the meantime at Haley Karania on most platforms and I'll see you right back here tomorrow.