
In this episode of Nightly Scroll: Former White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer joins to discuss his Senate testimony on Biden’s mental acuity. Then, A hopeful update for victims of the East Palestine Ohio train derailment and Rep. Jasmine Crockett celebrates Juneteenth on The View.
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Hailey Carania
Hello, everyone. Welcome to another edition of Nightly Scroll. I'm Hailey Carania. I've got Sean Spicer on deck. So excited. So stay tuned for that quick reminder that the only place you can watch this show is on rumble. Rumble.com Haley will bring you to the Bongino Report channel. Make sure you're subscribed there so you never miss a show. That is the only place you can watch live Monday to Friday, 6pm Eastern Time. If you want to listen or if you want to watch later on, you can do that on Rumble. If you want to listen, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you get your shows, Twitter, just search for Nightly scroll with Haley and you can join all of my homies. Big show today because I've got Sean. Sean Spicer here. Yesterday, Republicans on the Senate Judiciary Committee called for a hearing called Unfit to Serve how the Biden Cover Up Endangered America and Undermined the Constitution. Its goal was to figure out who, if not Biden, was running the Biden White House, even as mainstream media personalities like Jake Tapper and former White House press secretary Karine Jean Pierre and attempted to jump ship from the Democrat Party and distance themselves from Biden. Only one Democrat showed up to the hearing. That was Vermont Senator Peter Welch. The others boycotted the hearing entirely, all while they claim to care about things like the democracy and Constitution. All those buzzwords. My next guest was one of the Republican witnesses and here he is dropping truth bombs about the real reasons behind the Democrats unwillingness to to tell the truth.
Sean Spicer
Watch, Senator, the left and the friends in the media like to throw on terms like threats to democracy, constitutional crisis, and if we don't have confidence in the leader of the free world making decisions, that truly is the definition of a constitutional crisis and the threat to democracy. So for all these folks to stand up here and use those phrases over and over again and then not have the desire to show up to understand what's happening, to stand up at the time, as we discussed earlier, whether it was a staff or a cabinet member, to literally avoid going to the Oval Office and in the case of the media, to avoid the questions that were so clearly obvious to the rest of America, shows that they were more concerned with power and preserving that power and an agenda than they were at really caring about the Constitution and democracy.
Hailey Carania
Yep. And now host of the Sean Spicer show and former White House press secretary and my former boss joins Nightly Scroll. Hello, Sean, Colleague.
Sean Spicer
I was no one's boss.
Hailey Carania
Well, it was a pleasure working with you and it's fun that we get to Reunite. I get to come on your show sometimes. Now you get to repay the favor. This is awesome. But I saw that you were one of the witnesses here, and I wanted to get your take on all of this because, you know, while it is nice that we have Republicans like yourself who are willing to tell the truth, we need Democrats to take an oath and testify on this. And it's very telling that one of. Only one of them showed up to the hearing, and Democrats didn't call one witness. What was your reaction to that?
Sean Spicer
So, Haley, you know, look, you know, from when we work together, like when you. Whether you're doing a show or testifying in front of Congress, you prepare. We. We would have calls before our show that we used to work on together and would, hey, like, let's go over these questions, let's go over these elements. That's normal preparation. So when I was getting ready for this hearing, I literally murder boarded, what we call it in the business where I was like, okay, what's this senator gonna ask me? How are they gonna come after me? And so I got the word they're not gonna call any witnesses 24 hours out. And I was like, huh, Okay, I get that. Then as we were getting ready for the hearing to start, the staff said to me, I don't think they're, you know, they're gonna have one member make an opening statement and then leave. And it wasn't just that. The staff left too, the Democratic staff. And I've been a staffer at three committees on the Hill. The staff, that's their job. They stay there and watch so that if something happens, they could say it or they annotate what happened. So there's two things that kind of came to mind for me. Number one, and you kind of alluded to the first thing, which was like, it's indefensible. They couldn't get up there and defend. They had said things over and over again. And Senator Ted Cruz and Josh Hawley kind of enumerated some of the things that those committee members had said. You know, you said he was fit for office. You said, he's stronger than ever, blah, blah, blah. So that. That I get. But then I started to think about how I would have handled this as a staffer. Right. And that's. Maybe that's just me. And I can say this now because the hearing's over, but if. If this were. If I war game this out and this hearing was about decision making and Biden, and I didn't want to defend Biden, I. I would have come after me and said, okay, Mr. Spicer, you wanna talk about decision making? Here's five. You know, let's start going through Donald Trump's decisions, right? Do you think those were good decisions? Do you think that he consulted everybody? Will you admit that he didn't? You know, it was. And so why I bring this up, there's these stories out that I 48 hours about the DNC in shambles, Politico, the New York Times, others. Right? There is the takeaway that I had is, oh, my goodness, they are in much worse shape. If I can figure this out, how to counter program a hearing and they can't. Like, oh, they get, they're the senators. I was the witness. I had to just sit there and take it, right? They could have just thrown like, you know, Mr. Spicer, do you not. I mean, they could have gone full Elise Stefanic on me and just like, you know, do you agree? Do you know who this is? Do you know what happened? I mean, watch, just watch the Elise Stefanik question, you know, whether the head of Columbia or Kathy Hochul. And I wish. So the answer to your question is. I was shocked. I was like, what are you guys, morons? How do you not show up and just pummel and say Mr. Spice or Donald Trump made this decision. Do you agree with it? Mr. Trump, you know, when he fired Director Comey, walked me through the, you know, the decision making process, like, just put me on defense, for goodness sake.
Hailey Carania
And you're prepared for it for.
Sean Spicer
I felt I literally wanted, I was like ready to walk around here and go, no, Senator, you sit there down, and I got nothing. I got nothing. So, I mean, maybe I'm now happy about it, but initially, you know, I really thought that I was going to come into this thing and they were going to come full spider monkey on me.
Hailey Carania
I mean, to your point about the staffers, don't you think that the Democrats should have tried to prove that it's not just the President that makes every decision? You know, they could have asked you, you know, when you worked for President Trump, I mean, didn't he lean on this person or that person? You know, they could have maybe try to defend themselves that way.
Sean Spicer
They could have. But the answer is like, look, I will tell you this, like having worked for the guy both in the campaign, and you wouldn't believe the level of detail he gets into. So I said this at one point to Senator John Kennedy, asked me a question about what staff should do if they saw mental decline. I said, thankfully, I never did, but here's what I would have done. And that was the thing in the Trump world, we went over and above. And so, for example, the staff secretary, who is the person that manages the paper, the flow of information in the White House, making sure that the decision making process flows correctly and also catalogs all that information under the Presidential Records Acts for history, so that someone can look back and say, okay, these were the documents the President was shown prior to authorizing this or making X decision. So they could have gone through that. But at the end of the day, President Trump, like when I talked to the staff secretaries, there were times at which a piece of legislation would be signed and the staff secretary or one of their designees would fly like on a commercial airplane to be wherever the President was to make sure that his actual signature was affixed to things. That's how serious the Trump White House took it and still takes it. So they could have gone there, but I think it would have been a mistake because President Trump and his team go above and beyond. But President, I mean, excuse me, Senator Cruz brought out something that I didn't even know about. He kind of illuminated year by year all of the executive orders that Joe Biden signed. And in the first year it's in the hearing and I played it in my show yesterday. So if you go to YouTube and search Sean Spicer show yesterday, you can watch the clip from Senator Cruz. But basically he signed almost all of the executive orders by hand. Year one of Biden administration, year four, which of which there were a lot more, he signed zero. Now, Haley, the thing is the President doesn't have to sign everything. The auto pen is used, senators use it, whatever, but it's the intent that matters. Did they know? Did they instruct the staff to carry out their wishes? Did they know? And that's where I think we gotta be careful on this discussion. An auto pen, whatever, is somewhat irrelevant. People sign things all the time. Docusign. But it's like if I broke into your computer and docusigned a mortgage, it wouldn't be valid. Right. Because they'd say, Haley, Karenia didn't know about this, therefore it's invalid. Well, if the President of the United States didn't know that laws, executive orders or pardons were being signed on his behalf, it's irrelevant whether it was an auto pen or they took his hand weekend and Bernie style and signed it. The bottom line is it's invalid. And we do need to get to the bottom of this.
Hailey Carania
Yeah. And there were, I forget who pointed this out, it was someone on X a while ago. But there were a lot of executive orders that Biden signed regarding the climate that he never spoke on publicly afterwards. So that is begging the question. Okay, maybe these were just auto pen signatures. Maybe he didn't even know because they didn't even put him up after to say anything or make a statement on it.
Sean Spicer
That's a great point. That's one of the guys brought that up that, that you know, there should be a paper trail like a decision made. So when a president makes a decision, there is a decision memo that comes up. So it says, Mr. President, on this issue, Haley and Sean discuss the following. They advise you do this and then there's a box that says concur and there's one that says, you know, decline or you can do it with comment. But the idea is it's a little bit of CYA and it's a little bit of history to say, see, the President signed off on this or said no, but because of the following reason. There's got to be a paper trail. And the point is, the Biden White House and his senior staffers, Jill Biden, etcetera, want to dispel this discussion. It can easily be done. They can say, here are the supporting documents that show that Joe Biden was fully aware of this. He signed off on these decision memos. He was brought this information. This is his signature or his initials on this decision memo. And to your point about the schedule, it might not be on the public schedule, but on the private schedule it would say, you know, staff time to, for, you know, military decision or for personnel announcements where they'd come in and discuss it. So like personnel, presidential personnel would come in. Mr. President, we've got these five people we want to, we think, we want to recommend you hire for expositions that should, there should be a paper trail on all of that. So my thing to the Biden administration is put it up now. And frankly, and where I testified yesterday was to the media, right? Why isn't the media saying, if they wanna blow us out of the water and say all these guys are right wing kooks, then just ask for it, say, hey guys, show us the papers and then we'll go away. But the media won't ask the obvious questions the same way. And this is what I testified to yesterday, that they would make up out of whole cloth without evidence that President Trump had some kind of mental or physical issue performing the duties. But when Joe Biden came into office and it was clear with everybody who had eyes they could have done this. One last thing, Haley, because the other thing I talked about was the staff. And so here's the thing. I've gotten attacked as a lot of my former colleagues in the Trump for lying. So let's just take a look at what Corinne Jean Pierre did as press secretary. She showed up at the podium and said that President Biden runs laps around her.
Hailey Carania
Yep.
Sean Spicer
There's only two logical conclusions. One, she's in serious need of medical condition and needs to go start working out cuz she's in horrible shape. Or, or she was lying. But what's the greater sin? Some of the things that people charged against me or covering up for the fitness for office of the 46 President United States.
Hailey Carania
Well, let's talk about Karine Jean Pierre, because you were a White House press secretary, so you know what access and what FaceTime you're supposed to have with a president. And Karine Jean Pierre had made this excuse multiple times. Well, well, I didn't, you know, I didn't have the access to the White House that, you know, people think I did. What kind of access did you have to President Trump before briefings? And then, you know, compare that to it. Karine Jean Pierre is saying, so first.
Sean Spicer
Of all, I talked to President Trump probably on any given day, probably a minimum of 10 times, if not more. Like first thing in the morning, I'd get a phone call or I'd get a, you know, I'd get a phone call. It's either from him, from the White House operator or somebody saying, sean, the President's on his way down, he'll be in the Oval. But that was like basically how I started my day, before I even got coffee. And then I'd talk to him multiple times throughout the day, especially on days that I was briefing, he would call and we'd talk late in the day. But here's the tell. Because to your point, number one, how are you an effective spokesperson for the President of the United States if you don't know what they're thinking? Your job as press secretary is to speak in lieu of the principal. So if you haven't spoken to them or know what they think, how can you speak about that? But Haley, let me tell you the first time I knew this was a problem. Cause I would say to reporters all the time, ask a simple question of either PSAKI or Karine Jean Pierre. And the simple question is, when was the last time you spoke to the President? Okay, because here was my tell. Early on the President, the first days or Two of his administration got up and wagged his finger and said, if anybody treats anybody with disrespect in my administration, I'll fire them on the spot. You remember? Right? Okay. So a week later, TJ Ducklow, the deputy press secretary, goes on some rant against a Politico reporter, and he's fired. Now, TJ Ducklow isn't some random staffer. He was the person that during COVID and during the campaign was at the Biden compound. He's a very close, longtime confidant of the Biden family, not just Joe Biden. Joe Biden family, okay. He is in the family, so to speak. And when Jen Psaki was asked about what, you know, was the President informed about TJ Ducklow being fired? She said Ron Klain informed him that he had been fired. Now stop for a second and think about just the scenario.
Hailey Carania
Like, if they were family, friends, someone probably would have told.
Sean Spicer
No one told the president until after it was gone. Can you imagine if I had fired Sarah Huckabee Sanders and said, oh, yeah, yeah, the chief of staff just did it. The president would have said, sean, get out. Yeah, don't you dare. Like there's. It is insane that no one. And I said this at the time. Is anybody think this is nuts? The guy who's like a close, confident to the president, just got walked out of the building and no one told the guy. And you wonder about access. They didn't see that guy for days.
Hailey Carania
So then here's my question. If KJP didn't have. And Jen Psaki didn't have this FaceTime with President Biden and they didn't have these frequent phone calls, who were they getting briefed by?
Sean Spicer
Good question. So there's a group of folks at the top, longtime Biden confidence, Bruce Reid, Steve Richetti, Mike Donilon, Anita Dunn, who had been around Biden for a long, long time, like decades. And I would, I, I argue that that was the cabal that made every decision. And everything went up through them and back down. There was no interaction with the President. The access was limited, the information was limited, the flow was limited. When I worked for President Trump, heck, not even when I worked with him. When I was over at the White House the other day, he saw me, he goes, hey, follow me to the Oval. And I walked over and I just walked in the Oval, and I'm hanging out with him, and people are going in and out like they always do. That is, I mean. And so I probably had more access last week than Jen Psaki or King Jean Pierre had in their tenure.
Hailey Carania
It's amazing.
Sean Spicer
And nobody. But here's the thing, Hilly. I would ask reporters, just ask a simple question, when was the last time? And they wouldn't because they didn't want to know. The curiosity wasn't there because again, this goes back to the clip you just played. It undermined the power structure.
Hailey Carania
Right.
Sean Spicer
And they didn't want to tip over the apple cart. That's the bottom line.
Hailey Carania
Yeah. And you know, I'm not going to defend the mainstream media and those hacks, but really the, the Biden administration is at fault because.
Sean Spicer
Oh sure.
Hailey Carania
And you know this in the media, I mean, we go to the White House or government websites to get what we think is supposed to be factual information. We're supposed to be able in the media to trust information that comes out from our White House and other government agencies. So what the Biden administration did in this cover up was not unlike what China and North Korea do to their people. They essentially have a state run media, Democrats.
Sean Spicer
So. So I got asked by Senator Katie Brett of Alabama, what do we do? Like, how can we hold them accountable? And I said, there's so much you can do if the staff isn't gonna do their job. Right. But there's a piece, and this is part of the reason that I testified, was to talk about the role of the media. And one thing that I brought up before over and over again, but this particular instance was really emblematic of why it was an issue when Corinne Jean Pierre stripped 440 independent journalists of their White House hard passes. What she was doing was basically limiting any dissension. So it was, we'll keep NBC, abc, the Associated Press, but we'll strip all of the people who could be critical to us, could ask us hard questions. And remember, the White House Correspondent association to this day didn't say a word, not one word. And the question you have to ask yourself is why? And again, it goes back to what I said a moment ago. Power. They want to control the narrative, what you see, read and hear every single day. They don't like the Haley Carneas or the Sean Spicers in the briefing room or asking questions or having a show show, because they want to control it. And part of the point that I brought up to Senator Britt is that when you guys see this in the future, because for all of the times that the media loves to cloak themselves in the First Amendment and the Constitution and democracy, they rarely stand up for it when it's under threat. Because when Corinne John Pierre stripped all of these passes from 400 people. They said nothing, not a word. They don't care about anybody but themselves.
Hailey Carania
How long do you think it's gonna take for the mainstream media to collapse?
Sean Spicer
I think it's happening right now. And your show, my show is what Dan has built, is a testament to that, that people, I talk to people. And I guarantee you I'm a lot older than you, so you probably talk to more who say, I don't have cable, I don't read the Washington Post. I listen to the Daily scroll at night. I listen to Sean Spicer. I listen to the, you know. But they're dying in real time. The ratings and the subscription rates are plummeting because people aren't trusting them more. They're not subscribing. The model doesn't work right. And that's part of the reason you're seeing so many of these big name anchors lose their jobs because they can't afford it anymore. Because the numbers aren't there to get the advertisers to pay the salaries. But platforms like mine, platforms like yours are growing because people are saying, I'd rather listen to get Haley's take or Sean's take to understand what's happening. But it's in real time. Like people are not doing it. I do a show every morning on my YouTube channel at 9am Called the Morning Meeting. We get together, we bring in questions from around the country. It's live and people can hear, like from a Democrat, Dan Turnty and myself, Mark Halpern, about the news of the day and why certain stories are going to move away. And we keep growing and growing and growing because people are like, I'd rather hear what you guys think because we're not here to win you over or to sell you on a narrative. It's to explain the news. So I think it's dying in real time. I don't, I mean, to your point about the timeline, it's slowly happening and I think it's just going to continue to a trip.
Hailey Carania
Now, I know this is going to sound crazy because I'm obviously a member of the new media as you are. I have a concern about the rise in new media because it's really not that different from the mainstream media, aside from having no corporate overlords influencing narratives. But people go and find voices that they like and who they agree with. And then the American people kind of get stuck in this same left, right echo chamber. And it seems like straight down the middle, journalism is a lost art. I don't think that really exists anymore. I can't name a journalist that is completely politically ambiguous.
Sean Spicer
But. But I guess part of it is I would rather have people that give their bias because there's. You can't be. Right. So if somebody call and just take this outside of journalism. Right. Someone calls me and says, oh, what do you think of Haley? I'd say, well, gosh, I worked together for a long time. She's really smart and insightful. She's hardworking. Right. You have a personal bias towards certain things, certain people. And the difference is, is that we have bought into this narrative for decades that the journalists are not partisan and biased, which they always were.
Hailey Carania
Right.
Sean Spicer
It's just that we wouldn't call them out. So to your point, I don't know how many of them actually exist, because when I look at a tax bill and I hear that it costs money, or somebody says that Medicaid is going to have massive cuts despite it growing from $650 billion to 825 over six years, I go, that's a lie. It's not true.
Hailey Carania
Right.
Sean Spicer
So I don't think that there are really any people who fit that bill. I would much rather have people like me and you who are very open about, like, I'm a proud conservative and Trump supporter.
Hailey Carania
Right. And we're back checking them. Yeah.
Sean Spicer
Right. But I'd rather someone go, hey, Spicer said the following. But you know where I stand. I'm not trying to BS you or snow job you to think that somehow I'm being down the middle.
Hailey Carania
I'm.
Sean Spicer
I'm proud of the agenda. I'd like. I want to tell you, if you disagree with me, you're welcome on the show. I bring guests on my show all the time.
Hailey Carania
Yeah.
Sean Spicer
Who disagree with me, but I just don't know that it ever existed. I think we just bought into this fallacy that somehow. Because they said it was true. And so, I mean, look at all these guys, though, seriously. Jim Acosta told you for years that he was straight down the middle. And then he runs. Once he gets fired, he runs to Substack and starts talking about the President being a threat to democracy and hanging out with Rosie o' Donnell. Terry Moran goes on, I still think it's a drunken tweet storm. And he gets fired, and what does he do? He runs to Substack and says the same thing. Like these guys, as long as they're getting a salary from ABC or the Washington Post, they're playing a role.
Hailey Carania
They play a game. Yep.
Sean Spicer
Right. But the second that they get fired or not renewed, they're like, now I can speak truth to power. And it's like, dude, you always were. You were just faking it.
Hailey Carania
Yeah. I want to talk about narratives just quickly. I know I don't have too much time with you left, but, you know, we talked about the White House and the media covering for Biden's mental decline, and that's what the Senate hearing was all about. But knowing that he has since been diagnosed with aggressive prostate cancer, when do you think they knew that? And do you think that that diagnosis, depending on when you think they knew, had anything to do with their decision to run? Kamala.
Sean Spicer
It'S such a great question, because I've gotten so cynical about so many things that our government does and our leaders in terms. I mean, after Covid, who couldn't? I don't know. I mean, I've talked to enough doctors who have said, you know, it is possible because they weren't testing for it. Cause they don't recommend it. On the flip side, you know, I've been in the White House. I know enough about how the doctors interact with the President of the United States, the leader of the free world. And I'm like, if you didn't, wouldn't. I mean, it's almost like you're either. There's either a degree of malpractice. I get what the. The medical guidance is, but it's not some random dude hanging out on the corner that you're talking about. It's the President of the United States. So whether or not the PSA test is what you should have, if you're over 70, I would go, right. But he's the president. Like, you'd want to do those things. I don't know. I think that the problem was, is that it was like they were. They had hoped, like, wizard of Oz style, that we would never look behind the curtain. The problem with that debate is that we had seen it. You know, when we were at Newsmax, we would do stories about this stuff. We'd get chastised for it by folks in the media in the. In the legacy media. The problem with the debate was that they couldn't hide it anymore. It was like the curtain opening up and people being like, we can see Oz. Like, we get it right. And so the problem was, is that then they couldn't hide it. And that's when. Regardless of whether they knew about the diagnosis then or not, I think the problem with the. The debate performance was that there was a. Like, it was like Covid. I mean, you got to remember they hid this guy in the basement. They were just, they were like wheeling him out for appearances. And I think that they had hoped to keep going on that, but there was a point at which you can't do that anymore because everyone sees it.
Hailey Carania
Right. And to your point earlier, and from the clip that I played, it's all about them holding on to power. The purpose of the whole hearing yesterday was to try to figure out who was running the Biden White House. So.
Sean Spicer
Right.
Hailey Carania
Do you have any ideas?
Sean Spicer
Yeah, well, like I said, I mean, I think you've got this cabal of longtime aides. I would throw Jill Biden in there, by the way, and her chief of staff. But I think there's no, I mean, look, ask. This goes back to the very simple things. Go ask Corinne Jean Pierre. She's now openly saying it. I was blocked. I had this information. I mean, like, they're saying it. I'm sure she's going to write her little memoir that eight people will buy.
Hailey Carania
Right.
Sean Spicer
But at the end of the day, they're not hiding it anymore. They admit that they funneled the information to these four or five individuals. There are cabinet members that are openly saying, yeah, I never went to the Oval or when I did, I was told this. Like, we're, we finally are getting enough of the pieces of the puzzle to see it a lot clearer. But for people like me and you and your viewers, like, we all knew it. We didn't need the whole puzzle. We had enough pieces to say, there's something going on here.
Hailey Carania
Yeah, well, Sean, I. There's no better person to talk political inside baseball with. I love talking about Karine Jean Pierre and everything with you. So there is really no better guest. And I want you to quickly plug your show. I know it's at 6pm so if you're part of the homies, wink, wink. You can't watch because you're watching something else at that time. But when can they check out your show?
Sean Spicer
Yeah, so just go to my YouTube channel, Sean M. Spicer. You can watch it in time there. Sean Spicer.com has my newsletter and everything else and links to everything. But yeah, if you can just go to YouTube and watch it, that's awesome. I don't really care. Go watch Haley Live. Then come over and watch Sean Spicer show tomorrow. We've got Robert o' Brien on who is Trump's former national security advisor. And what I'm looking for in this Haley, this is where I want to be different, unique is that everyone wants to talk about Willie A wone bomb Iran and I'll talk about that with him. But I want to explain to people kind of the conversation that we just had from the national security, what's the decision making process like so people can go, oh, that's how he, how the president gets information, who's in the room. So I'm excited about that. And again, you can watch it all weekend long or whenever you want. You can watch Haley live and then go to Sean Spicer on YouTube and, and subscribe and watch it then.
Hailey Carania
Amazing. That sounds like a great interview. I will be tuning in. Sean, thank you so much for joining me.
Sean Spicer
Great to see. As always, congrats on the show.
Hailey Carania
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Of $45 for three month plan equivalent to $15 per month required new customer offer for first three months only. Speed slow after 35 gigabytes of network's busy taxes and fees extra see mintmobile.com. all right, if you watch this show, I know some people can't catch it every day. But last Friday I did an interview with Christina Sisloff. She is a Pennsylvania resident who lives less than six miles away from the East Palestine Ohio train derailment zone where that all happened. And we had about, I don't know, a 50 minute interview about. She was detailing all of the mess, all of the smoke, all of the, the, the controlled burn that let all of these toxic fumes into the air and the medical phenomena that took place afterwards. I mean everyone in this area has a story. Everyone is talking about, oh my, I have respiratory issues, I have skin like rashes, all these things, cancers popping up. And I said, I mean she is looking for help from the government because the Biden administration, they weren't interested in fixing any of the problems. They were only focused on covering it up because they didn't want to be implicated. And now we know that the Biden administration, because whistleblowers have come forward, the Biden administration knew damn well that this controlled burn was going to lead to cancer clusters and other health issues. But they didn't want the people of Ohio and Pennsylvania, they didn't want this area, they didn't want officials going to talk to any of the locals. They didn't want them to be treated. They didn't want local doctors to test for any of these toxic chemicals. And she is begging for help. And now, now that we have the Trump administration in here, Vice President J.D. vance and HHS Secretary RFK Jr. They are standing with East Palestine Ohio. Here is the message they put out earlier today. Watch.
J.D. Vance
And the second crazy thing is that as much as I tried as a United States Senator to work with the Biden administration, they refused to do anything to actually study the effects of these long term exposures on the people of East Palestine. Well, now we have a new president and a great new Secretary of Health and Human Services and he's got an incredible announcement. We're finally going to study the effects on these chemicals and finally get to the bottom of what effect this terrible train crash and the ensuing consequences had on the people of East Palestine.
RFK Jr.
The National Institute of Health under my direction, has launched a five year, $10 million research initiative to address health outcomes stemming from this calamity. This is the first large scale, coordinated, multi year federal study focused specifically on the long term health impacts of the East Palestine disaster. The program will support robust, community engaged epidemiological research to understand the impacts of exposures on short and long term injuries. It will also support public health tracking and surveillance of the community's health conditions to help us make informed health care choices and take appropriate preventative measures.
Hailey Carania
This just brings like, I feel like there's a weight lifted off of my shoulders and I don't live in this area. And it's not just Pennsylvania and Ohio, by the way. All of these toxic chemicals were found in 16 other states. So just think of the 16 surrounding states around this disaster zone. These toxic chemicals were released this to a lot of Americans, I mean, hundreds of thousands of Americans. This is really dangerous. And the fact that we finally have leadership in government who is focused on health and long term health and tracking these individuals to make sure that they get the treatment that they need. And the government is going to hold, you know, hopefully Norfolk Southern accountable. But at least we know that the government is going to put millions of dollars into this to help find treatment. I mean, this is incredible. So I'm so grateful. I knew that Vice President Vance had kind of a personal connection because it was Ohio and he was a senator at the time and he did make visits there. But, you know, when I talked to Christina, I mean, Vice President Vance would come to town. He was there on the two year anniversary. But she was saying, I mean, it's really the local government that we didn't hear anything. No one told us anything.
Jasmine Crockett
They.
Hailey Carania
These people feel like they've been in the dark for so long. So I'm just so grateful that hopefully we're going to see some movement in the right direction on this. Thankfully with RFK Jr who's actually concerned about keeping people safe and healthy for once. So this is incredible. I also, I mean, I don't know what it is like, if I just say East Palestine, Ohio, then I get all these articles popping up. It's like my phone's listening to me. I know it's very scary, but I saw this headline pop up. There's first responders who helped at East Palestine at the train derailment. They are having their injury claims denied by a company called Kroll. So some of the first responders, they rushed in when this toxic derailment happened. They're being told that their personal injury claims are being denied. So Boardman Township Fire Chief Mark Pitzer, he said this, that work was dangerous, extremely dangerous. Risking life and limb for them to not recognize the sacrifice that our first responders made, not only from a safety standpoint, but also from a health standpoint as a result of being exposed to these chemicals. It's extremely disheartening. So, like I said, Kroll is the company that sent out these letters denying the injury claims. And many of the letters that Kroll sent out claimed that the first responders, they weren't located within 10 miles of the derailment site. Just because they don't live there doesn't mean they didn't rush into the site itself to help. So how can you argue that these first responders weren't impacted by these toxins? And like I said, Christina, who I interviewed, lives six miles away, and she has all these health issues and her neighbors have health issues. So what's to say that, you know, 10 miles is the lucky number where, you know, if you're 10 miles out, you're not going to see, you know, any damages or any injuries. I mean, like I said earlier, 16 states tested for these chemicals. So how can you make that the cutoff?
Sean Spicer
Whatever.
Hailey Carania
Complicating things a little further, this company, Kroll, they have been removed from handling payments after they found calculation errors. So now two more companies are going to be handling these payouts. And the deadline to submit an appeal is June 24th. So hopefully these. These new companies, they can. They can handle these appeals. I hope that these first responders and firemen, anyone who were. Was in that zone, they can appeal before then and hopefully get their payout because they were impacted by this. These toxic flumes. So I hope that they see the money that they deserve because, you know, you can't take back the exposure to these toxic chemicals, but they're surely entitled to an insurance payout. So hopefully they get that, and hopefully with Vice President Vance and HHS Secretary Kennedy, they can get the help that they need. I wanted to cover this video yesterday. I sent it to poor Andy. And Justin was here yesterday. I said it was right before the show. I saw that Swalwell, Eric Swalwell, put out this video, and I said, oh, my gosh, we have to play this on the show, get it ready for the show. And then I forgot to play it. So here's the video that I wanted to play yesterday but didn't get to watch.
Sean Spicer
I had a really good time today. Yeah, me too.
Hailey Carania
I really like.
Sean Spicer
What are you doing? She's coming with us. What are you talking about? Who are you?
Eric Swalwell
I'm your Republican congressman.
Sean Spicer
Now that we're in charge, we're rounding up illegals. She was born here.
Hailey Carania
She's a citizen.
Sean Spicer
I don't care. She looks like one of them. But don't worry, when she's in prison in El Salvador, she'll have lots of company.
Jasmine Crockett
Ew.
Hailey Carania
So at the end of that ad, it says the homegrowns are next. You know, dash Donald J. Trump, he said that in April. And when he's talking about the homegrowns are next. The homegrowns, he was talking to the President of El Salvador Bukele about how he's going to need to build more prisons for us to send criminals to. Because obviously the Trump administration has started with violent criminals and illegal aliens, but who's to say that homegrown criminals can't go there next? And he's not talking about picking off random United States citizens off the street and sending them to prison. These are criminals he's talking about like the worst of the worst of society criminals that we going to jail anyway. So the Democrats put out this ad, you know, Congressman Eric Swalwell put this out on his ex with the caption Trump's America insinuating that this is what we can look forward to. This is what all Americans just have to live in fear of getting shipped off to Elsa Salvador. That is not true. That is not true. And how disgusting is it in that video where he's like, oh, she's an American citizen, like that doesn't matter, she looks like one of them. What?
Eric Swalwell
That was seriously creepy. I mean it definitely had like, I mean, more than Trump. Didn't it look like a silver haired Biden sniffing people sort of paying homage instead of being accusatory, huh?
Hailey Carania
Yeah, they thought that they had, oh, this like old white Republican guy like yo, this, it's, he's sniffing her like Biden number one. Also, how gross is it? First of all, President Trump is not just rounding people who look like an illegal immigrant off the streets. He's rounding up illegal immigrants. So to say that there is to insinuate that the Trump administration or Republicans want to just throw out people who look like they aren't citizens is insane and disgusting and false. And then when, when he said like, where are you taking her? Like, don't worry, when we take her to El Salvador, she'll have plenty of company. What is he insinuating with that comment? That she's going to be in jail with a bunch of dudes.
Eric Swalwell
Yeah, I don't think Spielberg, I don't think Spielberg was behind this production. I mean this was, this was shot out in the backyard with a couple of cameras. I mean, this doesn't make sense. Obviously it doesn't make sense from an immigration standpoint. Didn't make sense from a sensical Stamp from a PR standpoint, like, just stop.
Hailey Carania
It's just. It's factually inaccurate. It's fear porn. It's fear mongering. They want to prey on the emotions of liberals. Liberals are. They put, you know, feelings over facts all the time. And if these Democrats tell their constituents, oh, yeah, the Trump administration, they're rounding up random people and throwing them in jail, people will believe it. This is a sitting congressman. A sitting congressman should not be able to post fake news on their account and then pass it off as the truth. Oh, my gosh. It just makes me so, so angry. And Eric Swalwell was not done there. He posted that yesterday. And then he also. He was on. I don't know what. It was some liberal network. We're gonna see when the. I'll see when the video goes up.
Eric Swalwell
Good old msnbc.
Hailey Carania
I can't tell apart all the hosts or whatever. I can't tell what show it is. But anyway, he was on MSNBC yesterday saying that attorneys general across the United States should arrest ICE agents. Watch this.
Joy Behar
I see attorneys general across the country who have law enforcement powers. And the way I see it is if I was a prosecutor, the top prosecutor in my state, and these rogue agents arrested somebody like Alex Padilla, who was just exercising his First Amendment right in his own office building and had him arrested. If I had a criminal statute that met the facts, I would use it. And that's the same thing in New York. And so if you have law enforcement capabilities and the facts meet those criminal statutes, you have to meet their chaos with your own strength. Otherwise, we're always reacting to Donald Trump rather than the other way around.
Hailey Carania
He's literally insinuating that attorneys general should arrest the ICE agents who were enforcing the law. So what crime did the ICE agents commit? Because Senator Eric Padilla and. And whoever all the other other clowns are in New York, all these Democrats who show up to ICE detention centers or facilities, these field offices, or anyone who barges into a press conference and demands to speak with a member of the Trump administration or anything like that. I mean, these people were resisting arrest. They put their hands on ICE agents. Therefore, ICE agents had every right to arrest their asses. It's just.
Sean Spicer
Come on.
Hailey Carania
It's just. Anyway, this is also crazy. So Rodney Scott has been confirmed by the Senate to serve as President Trump's commissioner of U.S. customs and Border protections. So this is awesome. 51 Republican senators voted him in, not one Democrat voted to support him. He used to be the Chief of Border Patrol, and now he's going to be the pick to head up U.S. customs and Border Protection. This is great. He's already been in border patrol for 24 years, or 29 years, rather. So he's been a border security agent for almost 30 years. He is the perfect person for the job. And he was also the chief of United States Border Patrol during President Trump's first administration. He retired in 2021. Not one Democrat voted for his confirmation. Not one. You want to know why? Because he worked for Trump, of course. And their TDS won't allow them to vote for someone who's competent at their job. Democrats only want someone like Kamala Harris working the border. Someone who allowed tens of millions of unvetted people into this country. The damage that the Democrats did, it's already done. Who knows how many terrorists and sleeper cells are on American soil thanks to their ineptitude? So we need someone like Rodney Scott in there, and then we need to clone him 50 times to make this country safe again. Meanwhile, CNN is freaking out over these new DHS guidelines. Okay, The Department of Homeland Security has changed their rules. First, under the Annual Appropriations act, lawmakers were allowed to enter any DHS facility used to detain illegal aliens to inspect them as part of their oversight duties. And within that act, it used to say that they did not need to provide prior notice of their intent to enter the facility. Now DHS is saying that members of Congress who want to see the inside of an ICE facility need to provide 72 hours of notice. A lot of these lawmakers are showing up to ICE field offices, not detention centers. So these aren't where immigrants are being detained long term, these are. They're showing up to ICE field offices to carry out oversight of what, exactly? They're not doing this to conduct oversight. They're doing it as a PR stunt. We know this. Then they clash with ICE agents, they put their hands on agents, and then they f around and find out none of them tried conducting oversight. By the way, when Obama or Biden detained or deported, anyone remember AOC only cried over kids in cages when Trump was in office. She never cried when Obama created the cages. So miss me with the crocodile tears and the fake photo ops. And I know everybody's up for reelection and Democrats are grasping at straws to connect with voters on anything, But I would find something else to run on because the American people want to see law and order. They don't want to see Democrats bumbling around ICE facilities or crashing press conferences unannounced or putting their hands on agents or visiting Criminals, by the way, they were visiting a wife beating human trafficker in prison. That's quite the campaign strategy. But be my guess, because we're not tired of winning over here. We are not. Now I need to get into Jasmine Crockett because she said that all Trump supporters are mentally ill. Watch.
Jasmine Crockett
You know, we've got a mental health crisis in this country because everyone, no matter how you affiliate yourself, should be against Trump, period. This is not partisan for me. Like, I would give anything to have, sad to say, George Bush. Like, I like, give me any regular Republican nowadays and I would be happy. But right now we have someone who does not care and he is being enabled by the fact that there are, you know, people that follow him and they pump him up as well as the people that are surrounding him.
Hailey Carania
Well, we certainly do have a mental health crisis in this country. But I'm less concerned about Trump supporters who voted for peace through strength, foreign policy, tax cuts, law and order, and common sense. I would be more concerned about the growing mental health crisis on the left because there are people who think you can make a penis out of a forearm. There are people who neither identify as male nor female, but they. There are people in this country who think that biological sex is determined by your feelings and whatever clothes you're wearing. There are people in this country who burn down their own cities and assault police officers when they're upset. They think that marching around with cardboard signs is going to affect change. There are people in this country who want to normalize minor attracted persons as a sexual orientation. And none of those people I just listed voted for Trump. Just saying. But Jasmine Crockett, she was on the View today, of course, for Juneteenth. She says her job in the House is to make other people in the House do their jobs. Watch.
Sean Spicer
In recent months, Trump has called you, quote, a low IQ person and a low life. Do you take that as a sign that he's doing something right? I hope. I hope. He also called her a lawyer. That's another thing that she is. No, he did not. He did not.
Jasmine Crockett
You know, he's good at projecting is what I'll say to that. But, you know, I can't imagine being the President of the United States with everything that's going on in the world and worried about a sophomore in the House.
Sean Spicer
Well, you're a powerhouse, darling. Don't call it. Don't minimize.
Jasmine Crockett
Still he the President of the United States, right? So it talks about like his level of petty number one. And it also just kind of goes to the fact that, like, he's not focused on the things that he needs to focus on. Listen, you're the president. I'm over in the House, and I'm trying to get these House members to do right by their constituents, which means going against you.
Hailey Carania
Did you guys hear that? She says her job in the House is to make other people in the House do right by their constituents. That's not her job. Her job is to do right by her constituents. She also said at the end there that her job is to go against Trump. So there it is. They call her a powerhouse. Joy Behar. Well, you're a powerhouse. They're propping up the woman who called her own governor Hot Wheels. Totally disrespectful. And here is her Juneteenth message insinuating that we are not free in this country under President Trump. Watch.
Sean Spicer
We're celebrating Juneteenth. Yeah, yeah, tell me about Juneteenth.
Jasmine Crockett
Listen, now, I'm a Texan.
Hailey Carania
Yes, you are.
Jasmine Crockett
So I feel like the rest of the country is just now kind of getting tuned in. But I will tell you that being a black woman, and for those that understand Juneteenth, this was about the fact that the last slaves down in Texas finally, two years later, realized that or were made aware that they were no longer enslaved people. But in this time, though, especially with the anti DEI movement and the rollback just of our civil rights and our civil liberties as a whole, as well as ignoring the Constitution, and there's so many rights that black folk got specific specifically just from the Constitution, I think that this. Juneteenth, everyone, whether you're black or otherwise, should really evaluate what does freedom look like in this country and are we willing to fight for it. And I think, you know, evaluating what happened at no Kings, I think we are ready and willing to fight for our freedom. But I think that it is important that we come together and we define what freedom looks like for those of us in this country, not just black folk.
Hailey Carania
What does freedom look like? Well, it looks like what we're living in right now. To her point about the no Kings protests, people have every right in this country to protest about stuff that isn't happening. They're protesting us having a king. We don't have a king. But you still have the right and the freedom in this country to protest about fake stuff, made up stuff. I think we're free. I mean, it's crazy. The women on the View, Whoopi, the other day, comparing black people in America today to women in Iran Saying that their situation, their experience is similar. Are you insane? Like Black people today vs women in Iran today. How can you make that connection? And then Jasmine Crockett, also on the View, saying that, you know, slavery and what we're experiencing now, I mean, this should make us think about what freedom looks like in this country. Are you kidding me? I mean, it's just an. It's insulting. Oh, what time is it? Let's get into scrolling time. I think I'm going to save number 12 for tomorrow. It's really funny, but I'm going to save number 12 for tomorrow. We're going to skip to 13 because we're on the topic of these no Kings protests. And I'm sure you've seen the video, but if you haven't, here is Florida Sheriff Brevard County Sheriff Wayne Ivy talking to. He's doing a presser. Talking about what is, what is and isn't allowed in the state of Florida. Watch.
Sean Spicer
If you throw a brick, a firebomb, or point a gun at one of our deputies, we will be notifying your family where to collect your remains because we will kill you graveyard dead. We're not going to play. This has got to stop.
Hailey Carania
Yeah, so he means business. And when he says he's not playing, he's not playing. Okay, so here's a guy on TikTok reenacting Sheriff Wayne Ivey watch PJ walk.
Wayne Ivy
We whooping your ass. If you think about spitting on us, you're dead. I hope your mama got life insurance on your boy. If you run away, we will run your ass down and you going to jail. Tired, you burn. Cause we breaking your legs. If you are black or brown, you're not going to jail, you're dying. We ain't nice like them LA police officers. I've been hoping open for protest. I ain't been able to shoot my gun. Oh, matter of fact, if you protest at all, you going on a T shirt. Why you looking at me like that?
Hailey Carania
Honestly, it's pretty accurate. We don't mess around in Florida. Even Governor DeSantis says, if you're in the street, get out the street. Because you have every right. If a mob surrounds your car, you have every right to step on the gas.
Eric Swalwell
So Fort Lauderdale needs to hire this guy to stand right beside beside the sign language lady at the city meetings. When they give these statements and just have this guy just reinterpret what this dude's saying. This is good.
Hailey Carania
Yeah, I like when people are going to have a sense of humor about it. You know. So, anyway, Lizzo, who we all know and love to make fun of, Lizzo, the singer, she wanted to get on TikTok and make a statement, use her platform to talk about these protests and how she feels about it. Not that anyone ask, not that anyone cares, but here's what she said.
Lizzo
I just watched a video of law enforcement threatening to kill, kill anyone who exercises their First Amendment right to protest.
Hailey Carania
That's not true.
Lizzo
And I've never seen something more unconstitutional in my life. It's actually appalling. I want to remind y' all that the first casualties of the American Revolution were protesters throwing snowballs at the British soldiers who were patrolling the colonies. And the first person they killed was a black and indigenous man, Crispus Attucks. I'll never forget his name. It is the literal reason why we have our First Amendment right to assemble. And now here we are in a constitutional crisis. We don't serve a king. We don't serve a dictator. We fought and lived and died for the right to vote for people who will protect and serve us. The people.
Hailey Carania
Yes. And we love that. We the people.
Lizzo
And when that gets threatened and when.
Hailey Carania
That gets challenged, the right to vote.
Lizzo
We just have to get louder. We just have to get prouder. It's the American thing to do.
Eric Swalwell
Prouder.
Hailey Carania
Just get louder. Get prouder.
Eric Swalwell
I'm pretty sure she. She voted. I'm pretty sure I would say she voted.
Hailey Carania
She was saying that they are trying to take away our right to vote. That is not true. She was trying to say that they're trying to take away our First Amendment right. Where. I mean, everyone across the country was protesting in blue cities. So where. Where do you not have the right to protest? What you don't have the right to do is be not peaceful. You can protest peacefully. That is protected under the First Amendment. But Lizzo thinks it's a constitutional crisis because people who want to light cop cars on fire are being arrested. This is why it really grinds my gears when singers, they try to get into politics. They try to tell people how to feel about certain things, and they don't have any of the facts. But because they have a massive platform, they're just allowed to spew garbage. And then everyone is like this. Here's. Here's some of the comments. It's always in Florida. Always. You ate this up, girl. You ate this up, girl. You're the only celebrity I've. I've seen speaking on this in such a way. I'm Canadian, and I'm afraid for you guys.
Eric Swalwell
They say she ate it up.
Hailey Carania
Yes, she did.
Eric Swalwell
Just clarifying. No, no point any further.
Hailey Carania
Pun intended.
Eric Swalwell
I was just asking.
Hailey Carania
No pun intended. But Lizzo, skinny, now she's on maybe Ozempic, I don't know. But yep, Canadians are afraid for us. Thank you for speaking out for what's right, Lizzo. We love you, Queen. It's scary. We need to protect our democracy. These people don't even know we live in a constitutional republic. You've got a big platform and you using it to speak up. Love this. Thank you for speaking on this, using your platform for good. You're spreading misinformation with your platform. Let me see how many followers she has. 26.1 million. Can you guys see that? No, it's not. Yeah, 26.1 million people and all she's doing is lying.
Eric Swalwell
Well, that's 26.1 million people who don't appreciate American history because I was a little left in the. Little sad with her, you know, teaching of American early colony and revolutionary history. That was. I don't know what I was expecting, but it was worse than what I was expecting.
Hailey Carania
Totally. And I know we're at an hour, but I want to end this on a nice note. So I have a very cute baby and animal video for you. Watch. So there are two cranes, maybe sandhill cranes and a baby, and they're all jumping up and down together. How cute is. Look at them all jumping. This is so pure, so wholesome.
Eric Swalwell
You know, if you hit one of those in the state of Florida, it's.
Hailey Carania
A. I can't hear you over the music. So just drop out of the video and then you can speak to me.
Eric Swalwell
I said if you hit one of those in the state of Florida, it's a tens of thousands of dollar fine.
Hailey Carania
Oh, really? Are they in danger?
Eric Swalwell
Watch out for those things.
Hailey Carania
Are they endangered?
Eric Swalwell
Oh, yeah, they're protected.
Hailey Carania
Oh, okay. Yeah, I saw a sandhill crane. I saw two sandhill cranes and they had a little baby in the middle. They were walking like the two parents and the little baby in the middle. It was so cute.
Eric Swalwell
Yeah, they mate for life, so you won't see them in pairs.
Hailey Carania
Yeah. Oh, it's just so cute. Someone said this is how they learn to fly. But are you talking about the baby? Do you think that the cranes were teaching the baby how to fly? Because they already knew how to fly?
Eric Swalwell
I've never seen one off the ground, so I don't know.
Hailey Carania
I don't either. I've never seen them jump like that, but I just thought that that was a really cute way to end the show. And on that note, thank you for scrolling along with me. Thank you for watching Nightly Scroll. You can tune in with all of my homies on rumble rumble.com haleys where you can watch the show on the Bongino Report Channel. Of course you can listen on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. I hope you do. Just search Nightly Scroll. Leave a nice message, leave a five star review. Hopefully you you will give me five stars and subscribe. So you can always tune in whenever if you're on the go. And of course you can follow me on Haley Karenia on all social media platforms. And I'll see you tomorrow.
Sean Spicer
Sam.
Nightly Scroll with Hayley - Episode 73 Summary: "Dems Boycott Probe on Biden’s Fitness to Serve w/ Sean Spicer"
Release Date: June 19, 2025
Host: Hayley Caronia
Guest: Sean Spicer, Former White House Press Secretary and Host of The Sean Spicer Show
In Episode 73 of Nightly Scroll with Hayley, host Hayley Caronia welcomes former White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer to discuss the recent Senate Judiciary Committee hearing titled "Unfit to Serve: How the Biden Cover-Up Endangered America and Undermined the Constitution." The episode delves into the implications of the hearing, the Democrats' boycott, and broader issues surrounding media narratives and governmental transparency.
Hayley begins by outlining the context of the hearing, emphasizing that Republicans sought to investigate potential overreach and lack of transparency in the Biden administration. The hearing aimed to uncover who is effectively running the Biden White House, especially given the apparent absence of key Democratic figures.
Hayley Caronia (00:00):
"Republicans on the Senate Judiciary Committee called for a hearing called Unfit to Serve how the Biden Cover Up Endangered America and Undermined the Constitution. Its goal was to figure out who, if not Biden, was running the Biden White House..."
She highlights that only one Democrat, Senator Peter Welch of Vermont, attended the hearing, while the majority boycotted, raising questions about their commitment to democracy and constitutional principles.
Sean Spicer provides a detailed account of his preparation for the hearing and his observations regarding the Democrats' approach.
Sean Spicer (01:27):
"For all these folks to stand up here and use those phrases over and over again and then not have the desire to show up to understand what's happening... shows that they were more concerned with power and preserving that power and an agenda than they were at really caring about the Constitution and democracy."
He expresses surprise and frustration over the Democrats' lack of participation, suggesting that their absence indicates a prioritization of political power over genuine constitutional concerns.
Sean Spicer (03:05):
"If they couldn't defend Biden and systematically avoided questioning him, it shows a clear agenda to preserve power rather than uphold democratic values."
The conversation shifts to a critical analysis of the mainstream media and Democratic staffers, whom Spicer accuses of complicity in undermining transparency.
Sean Spicer (06:21):
"They couldn't show up and just pummel and say Mr. Spicer or Donald Trump made this decision. Do you agree with it? Have they admitted it? They avoid defending their positions."
He underscores a perceived media bias and a lack of accountability, suggesting that the media and Democratic staffers are actively working to control the narrative to their advantage.
Spicer delves into the internal workings of the Biden administration, contrasting it with the Trump administration's approach to decision-making transparency.
Sean Spicer (09:40):
"There's got to be a paper trail. The Biden White House and his senior staffers... want to dispel this discussion. They can say, here are the supporting documents that show that Joe Biden was fully aware of this."
He criticizes the Biden administration for lack of transparency and suggests that decisions are made behind closed doors without sufficient documentation or accountability, making it difficult for outsiders to assess the president's fitness to serve.
A significant portion of the discussion focuses on the decline of mainstream media and the rise of new media platforms favored by conservatives.
Sean Spicer (18:46):
"I think the mainstream media is collapsing right now. Ratings and subscription rates are plummeting because people aren't trusting them anymore."
He attributes this decline to a loss of trust and the inability of traditional media outlets to adapt to changing consumption habits, while praising platforms like Rumble and his own show for providing alternative narratives that resonate with conservative audiences.
Hayley Caronia (20:14):
"People are getting stuck in left-right echo chambers, and straight-down-the-middle journalism is a lost art."
Spicer agrees, noting the importance of transparency about biases in media and advocates for open, partisan commentary as a more honest approach to journalism.
Hayley introduces a segment discussing the East Palestine, Ohio train derailment, featuring insights from local residents and officials.
Hayley Caronia (28:44):
"I interviewed Christina Sisloff, a Pennsylvania resident near the derailment zone, who detailed the environmental and health impacts caused by the controlled burn following the derailment."
The segment highlights the Biden administration's perceived inaction and cover-up attempts, contrasted with recent commitments from the incoming administration to address the aftermath.
J.D. Vance (31:01):
"We're finally going to study the effects on these chemicals and get to the bottom of what this train crash did to the people of East Palestine."
RFK Jr. (31:31):
"The National Institute of Health has launched a five-year, $10 million research initiative to address health outcomes from this calamity."
This discussion underscores the administration's delayed response and the importance of holding responsible parties accountable.
The episode critiques recent political advertisements and media portrayals by Democratic figures, accusing them of spreading misinformation and fear-mongering.
Hayley Caronia (36:53):
"Democrats released an ad insinuating that the Trump administration is sending American citizens to prisons in El Salvador—this is false and fear porn."
Eric Swalwell participates skeptically, mocking the credibility and production quality of such advertisements.
Sean Spicer (42:21):
"They are trying to manipulate emotions rather than present factual information."
The conversation continues with a focus on public statements by Democratic congresspeople, particularly Jasmine Crockett, criticizing their views on Trump supporters and current societal issues.
Jasmine Crockett (46:03):
"Everyone should be against Trump; it's a sanity issue in our politics."
Hayley counters by highlighting what she perceives as a greater mental health crisis on the left, referencing various cultural and societal issues.
Hayley Caronia (46:43):
"There are people who believe biological sex is determined by feelings and clothing, and those are the issues more concerning than labeling Trump supporters as mentally ill."
Towards the end of the episode, Hailey wraps up by addressing recent political events and encourages listeners to engage with her show and Sean Spicer's platform for further insights.
Hayley Caronia (60:27):
"Thank you for scrolling along with me. Follow Nightly Scroll on Rumble and subscribe to stay informed."
Sean Spicer (27:30):
"Check out my YouTube channel, Sean M. Spicer, for more in-depth discussions with experts like Robert O'Brien."
Episode 73 of Nightly Scroll with Hayley offers a comprehensive critique of the Biden administration's transparency, the role of mainstream media, and the Democrats' handling of political investigations. Through insightful dialogue with Sean Spicer, the episode underscores concerns about democratic integrity, media bias, and governmental accountability, while also addressing specific incidents like the East Palestine derailment and recent political advertisements. The conversation encourages listeners to seek alternative media sources that align with their perspectives and remain vigilant about protecting constitutional values.
Notable Quotes:
Sean Spicer (01:27):
"They were more concerned with power and preserving that power and an agenda than they were at really caring about the Constitution and democracy."
Sean Spicer (06:21):
"They couldn't show up and just pummel and say Mr. Spicer or Donald Trump made this decision."
Hayley Caronia (20:14):
"People are getting stuck in left-right echo chambers, and straight-down-the-middle journalism is a lost art."
J.D. Vance (31:01):
"We're finally going to study the effects on these chemicals and get to the bottom of what this train crash did to the people of East Palestine."
Sean Spicer (18:46):
"I think the mainstream media is collapsing right now. Ratings and subscription rates are plummeting because people aren't trusting them anymore."
Hayley Caronia (46:43):
"There are people who believe biological sex is determined by feelings and clothing, and those are the issues more concerning than labeling Trump supporters as mentally ill."
Conclusion:
This episode serves as a critical examination of the current political landscape, emphasizing the importance of transparency, media accountability, and the safeguarding of constitutional principles. Through candid discussions and expert insights from Sean Spicer, Nightly Scroll with Hayley provides listeners with a perspective that challenges mainstream narratives and advocates for conservative values.