B (3:09)

Thanks for having me.

A (3:10)

Did you have any idea when you first got a word of this story? Did you have any idea how bad it really was? Or were you even more horrified once you started digging into this and seeing these videos?

B (3:22)

Well, in my coverage across the country, I will see these stories of a lot of times it's a fight in a community about whether or not to create one of these health clinics. Because of course, the concern amongst parents is that if my child is going to a school clinic and there's patients rights involved and HIPAA and all of that, am I going to know what's going on? And so this scenario in New Mexico played out that. And what we found was that in New Mexico they changed the law so a 14 year old is treated as an adult when it comes to medical privacy.

C (4:01)

What?

B (4:02)

So a 14 year old could go into a school clinic and do whatever they want, the school. And there's this, you know, direct relationship between the school clinic and the child and the parents are completely cut out of the process. So there's no parental notification. If a parent calls the clinic and asks for records or asks for information about what's going on, HIPAA is involved and so the parent is completely cut out.

A (4:31)

That is one of the most shocking things I think I've heard because you're telling me a freshman in high school can go to their health clinic and say, I want an abortion and the parents will have no idea or I

B (4:43)

want to mutilate my body or I want to, you know, take drugs to change my body. Yes. And so what I found ironic about all of this was as I was doing the research on, you know, the bigger picture here in New Mexico, you have to be 21 years old to buy a pack of cigarettes because the adults who make the laws say kids can't make the decision about whether or not to buy a pack of Cigarettes. But those Same adults decided 14 year olds have the mental capacity to be able to make a decision about an abortion or about mutilating their body. And they've also made the decision that parents don't have the right to know.

A (5:30)

This is so disturbing. And I said in my intro, kind of tongue in cheek, but when I went to school, we had school nurses that couldn't do much of anything. So how did we get to this point where we had school nurses and now we have full on health clinics in schools that are fully equipped with, you know, resources for kids to get abortions and transgender surgeries and vaccines and all these things. How did we go from that to this?

B (5:56)

Well, you mentioned, you mentioned, I think one of the culprits, the teachers unions, the American Federation of Teachers, which is the smaller of the two national teachers unions, they have this mission to create or to educate what they call the whole child. And so it's not just reading and writing anymore, but it's providing three meals a day, it is providing medical care, it's providing child care if, you know, if the parent is working, it's providing laundry services, all of those sorts of things. Because what their ultimate goal is is to make the school the hub of the community. And so a child could conceivably spend, you know, much of their existence in the school because the parent is working or whatever the case may be. And so an extension of that, of course, is creating these health clinics. And so what we saw, there's roughly, just for a little perspective, there's roughly 80 of these clinics in the state of New Mexico. There's many others across the country. And I would encourage parents and grandparents, if you don't know if this is going on in your school, you should find out. And you should find out what are the rules, what sort of services are they allowed to provide? Because, you know, the argument that you'll hear is, well, it makes it very convenient if a student needs a dental appointment or if they need to have a school physical, if they're playing a sport, that sort of thing. And I think, you know, I think some parents would say, well, yeah, that probably makes sense, it saves me a trip or, you know, whatever. But then once you get into all of these other services, that's where I think a lot of parents would have a problem with that. But again, I think a lot of parents don't know because the first, I think the first instinct is to think, well, that makes things a lot more convenient.

A (7:52)

Yeah, I mean, I guess it's a little More convenient. It's convenient because they want to raise the kids and keep the parents completely out of it. It's, oh, you guys are busy, you're all working. You know, mom's working too now. We'll take care of your kids, we'll raise your kids, we'll vacc them up and do whatever and we'll make it so that we're giving these children adult responsibilities. These are adult decisions. And kids don't know. I mean, even as an adult they'll give me or they'll recommend a drug or a vaccine or something. And it's like, I don't even know. So these kids don't know. They're not doctors. They have no experience in this. They have no idea what to ask for questions to, to ask these people to push back. And that's by design, probably. So who is behind these clinics? Because is it different companies, similar companies? Because I know you mentioned the teachers unions and this couldn't have been a. Or maybe it is a little bit, but I feel like it couldn't just be the parents behind this where the parents were pushing and saying, oh, we must have these in house clinics. So the teachers unions are behind this. But then, you know, you mentioned parents and grandparents figuring out if this is happening at their kids school. So what do they look for? Is it a company name?

B (9:08)

Well, it's a lot of these clinics, they will be a private company or a separate entity from the school district, and the school district will either give them the space in the building or they'll lease them the space, something like that. But then that creates another layer of insulation. But what we found in the videos that we saw from New Mexico is that these clinics have the ability, they have the authority to, to call kids out of class. But then also teachers have the ability to refer kids to the clinic for care. And so there is a lot of. And then of course, you know, one of the videos the school workers said, you know, we don't know what goes on in the clinic because there's HIPAA rules and you know, and all of that. And so there's a lot of, I think there's a lot of secrecy to it. And. But what, you know, I think some of the other things that we found is they also are like we saw, if you remember a few months ago, there were these videos about DEI that came out from college campuses and these workers on college campuses were basically saying, well, we're still doing the work, we're just not calling it DEI because the Trump administration put out These executive orders saying, DEI is dead. And so we're still doing the work. We just. We're calling it welcoming, or we're calling it, you know, all these other things. Well, in one of the videos in it, ironically, it's called Health Leadership High School, which is a charter school in Albuquerque. And their mission, it says their mission is to, quote, equip students with the skills they need to become leaders in health care. Well, in that particular school, the undercover journalists went in and there was a drag queen who was not in drag, but the drag queen was sitting at the front desk. And his quote in the video is, we can't call it gender affirming therapy. We call it identity therapy. Basically, it hasn't changed. It's just the way we have to name it in order for billing to take place. And so he admitted on camera that they're doing the same thing. They're just calling it identity therapy instead of gender affirming therapy.

A (11:25)

I thought that this was just one of those crazy right wing conspiracy theories that there were no drag queens reading to kids. You guys are crazy. Now we have drag queen proof of a drag queen. I guess, like you said, not fully in drag, makeup and costume, but a drag queen that certainly is on one side of the aisle, right. Where they have an agenda that is pro gay, pro lgbtq, whatever, or pro being who you are, identity, if you want to call it that. So I thought that this was not happening at all. Now we have proof that it's happening. You know that meme where it's like the clown and it's like, you know, it's not happening. Yes, it is. It's not happening that much. And we're in that. We are here. We are at the point where they're telling us, okay, it's happening, but it's really not that bad. And here's why. It's actually good for your kid, Right?

B (12:13)

Yeah. There is definite activism going on. And so, as you said, I mean, he may not be in, you know, the outfit, but there's activism going on. And he said you have to change the name in order for billing to take place. Well, what does that mean? They're billing Medicaid because Medicaid pays for a lot of the services in these school clinics. Well, who pays for Medicaid? Every federal tax dollar. Every federal taxpayer pays for Medicaid. So. And a lot of these, some of the other videos I saw, they say that they will pay for the services. So if a student can't afford to pay for the abortion or for the, you know, the other, the gender care they will, they have, there's activist groups that will pay for it. So it's, it's a, I think it's a very disturbing thing. And as I said, there's a lot of parents who are very concerned about these, these sorts of clinics coming in and what does it mean for parental rights and, and clarity in terms of, you know, the relationship between the parent and the child. And so again, if they don't know if this is going on, they need to find out.

A (13:37)

Yeah. You know, it makes me think of the, or what the left called the don't say Gay bill. They were freaking out. Left, leftists, liberals, they were freaking out. How in Florida can they pass this parental rights bill? We won't be able to talk about sex with third graders. And it makes you think, you know, once you find out this, that this is going on, it sort of makes more sense that they want to groom these kids because if they're not allowed to talk about sex and gender and ideology and all this stuff with these young kids and it kind of thwarts their plan for these in house clinics, they won't be able to get their, their hands on these kids early enough or soon enough.

B (14:17)

Right. And it's, and it's really about this, this whole idea of affirming is a child will come in and say they have these feelings or they have these thoughts and instead of saying, well, that's not, you know, that may affect you further down in life or you may not, you know, your mind may change in two weeks or two days, instead of doing that, they just affirm. And what these videos also showed was that this is not just going on in high schools, but I wrote a story about Lynn Middle School where they're doing, you know, very similar things, but then also in elementary school where the worker there said that they didn't have trans kids then, but they've had them in the past and they do the affirming care and there is, they create safe spaces and all of this. So this is not because, you know, I think there's a lot of debate about, well, should, should adults do this? And you know, that's for adults to decide. We're talking about kids, right? And not just high schoolers, but young kids too. And so it's. One of the things that Ione of my takeaways was that because of the volume of the videos. And there's another website called the New Mexico Sentinel has put some of these out. I think what it showed is that this is not a one off, it's not someone who didn't get the proper training. It's not just an activist, but this is a systemic thing in New Mexico schools. And so it's happening across the country. The Trump administration has tried to do something about it. HHS Health and Human Services, they issued a rule back in December, I think it was, that would ban this sort of practice. But again, if you're just changing the name, how would Medicaid, how would HHS know? And then also the House has passed a bill basically codifying the language of that rule that's currently sitting in the Senate. And so the Trump administration and the Republican Congress are trying to do something about this. But to date, you know, it's clearly still going on, still happening.

A (16:33)

Yeah. And speaking of these undercover videos, we have some of these. So I want to play them for our audience because they're so eye opening and groundbreaking and disturbing really. And it's one thing to talk about them, but I really want the audience to know what we're talking about here. So this first one is an example of, again, this is an undercover journalist, but posing as a guardian, the uncle of a young girl who is pregnant and is looking for an abortion. And this is how the in school clinic in this New Mexico school handled that situation. Watch this.

D (17:11)

Go help Paige. Can I help you?

E (17:12)

My niece goes to the school, she's very nervous. She has, she got pregnant and is wondering what are her options. I know the clinic has some reproductive healthcare options.

D (17:27)

So let me tell you how it works. So we're school health based. We are not associated with aps. APS just lends us the space to get, to provide services for our students. So we do physicals, immunizations, we do, we do confidential visits, which is the, you know, birth control and all that stuff. We also provide counseling and psych evaluations and dental services. So I could call her out of class. And our clinic is like way north and on the second floor, like in the very back from, you know, teachers don't come back, you know, they don't come up here or anything like that.

E (18:09)

And you guys, you guys could make an assessment and do you.

D (18:15)

And refer her out.

E (18:17)

You would refer her. Okay, who do you refer to?

D (18:22)

It would be like a UNM clinic maybe, I don't know. It just depends what she wants to do.

E (18:28)

All right.

D (18:28)

And it just depends.

E (18:30)

Okay. But you do have the relationship. So if, you know, if, if she is 100% sure she wants to terminate, she can then go to, you talk to you and then you'll refer.

D (18:42)

Yes, yeah. So we just, we, the provider will talk to her and she'll give her options what she wants to do. We don't, we never tell them what to do. They, they make that choice.

A (18:53)

Okay, so the young girls can make this choice whether or not they can abort their children. Again, this is a hypothetical situation, but this is really happening because these schools are equipped, not well, but they are handling this situation. They have a plan in place for a young girl who becomes pregnant and wants to terminate a pregnancy. So the school itself can't provide abortion care, but they can refer the child to a, maybe a Planned Parenthood. Is Planned Parenthood involved in this at all?

B (19:27)

Yes, of course they are.

A (19:29)

Of course they are.

B (19:30)

Of course they are. But again, a 14 year old and there is, where is the questioning about is the child being trafficked? Where did the child come from? What are the circumstances? There's no questioning about that. And it's just matter of fact, it's just routine. Like this sort of thing is happening every day.

A (19:57)

Yeah, and I was questioning too because the school seems very happy to help in this situation. And I feel like in order for this journalist to call, did they call on behalf of a student that's actually in school or were they just willy nilly giving out this advice to any child that needs it? It just seems odd.

B (20:17)

I think he was posing as a relative of a student at the time. Same school, right? Yes. But you know, the other thing, one of the other things that the person on the other end of the line said was they will provide mental health care. I mean, she used different wording, but they'll provide mental health care. And so there has been a huge debate about mental health in America and politicians love to talk about we need more funding for mental health care. Well, the practical reality of that is, is that the funding goes to the school and then the school is providing the mental health care. So again, is that, do you as a parent want the school district to be providing mental health services for your child? But that is, I mean that, that's clearly a growing trend today.

A (21:08)

Right. And then how skewed is the mental health care? Is it health care that is being delivered by someone who's unbiased and truly is caring for the child? Or is it someone that is bought and paid for by big pharma? Are they going to be pushing drugs? Are they incentivized to push transgender drugs? Or is this person trained by whatever woke medical institution to encourage young girls to abort These. These babies. Right. I mean, it just seems like they probably have an agenda, and the agenda is not in the Christian worldview. The agenda is probably not in the conservative worldview. And I think that's a very scary reality for a conservative parent, or any parent, for that matter.

B (21:51)

Right. And then is the school going to be a partner with the parent and have the parent involved, or are they going to be, you know, defiantly in opposition to having the parent involved? So it just creates a lot of issues that I think, you know, parents are grappling with. And these. These years are. I can tell you, as a parent, these are. These years are hard enough as it is. And the last thing you need is activists in schools trying to impose their personal political opinions or their personal beliefs on our kids. We see that enough in the classroom. We don't need to have that in their medical decisions as well.

A (22:32)

Yeah. And I feel like, as a girl dad, and for any girl dads that might be watching, I mean, this is really targeting. And this is all children, of course, this is sinister, and it's grooming, in my opinion. But for young girls, they are being encouraged to abort their children if they become pregnant. They are being encouraged to participate in this sexually deviant society where these kinds of things are allowed. And then women and girls get the short end of the stick because of the transgender thing. Also, women and girls are the ones that are going to feel uncomfortable if they are sharing a bathroom with a man who thinks that they're a girl or a boy that thinks they're a girl. It's never really the other way around. So I feel like girls always get the short end of the stick. But this next video, undercover video, talks about this transgender bathroom issue. And again, the girls are the problem, apparently, according to these people, not the transgenders. Watch.

C (23:30)

So when she comes in, you know, we just. She can go to whatever restroom she wants. Wants to go. But we do offer that she can come to one of the restrooms here in the office because they're just. It's just one restroom.

E (23:41)

Got it.

C (23:42)

If she doesn't. Yeah. It's more private if she. I mean, of course you can choose to go whichever one she. Right. It's a. Yeah.

E (23:50)

Yeah.

C (23:50)

It's a heat wishy.

E (23:51)

Yeah.

C (23:51)

Yeah. So she can go into the girls restroom if she wants to. We do have a program. It's an lgbtq. It's a club.

B (24:01)

Okay.

C (24:01)

That, you know, they meet with the lgbtq. So she has that for support if she needs that. We do have our school Based health center also, where they do therapy. So we would do. If she needed it, we would do a referral with them, and they would take her out of, like, an elective or something. Like. Yeah, an elective, not a core class. And she can meet with the therapist once a week. Whatever. Whatever.

E (24:23)

Whatever's needed.

C (24:24)

We would just email the teachers and, you know, say, we have the student in class. She prefers to be he, she, whatever her pronouns are. We do have another transgender student here. It's a. Yeah. Male to female. Yes, we do have another transgender student here also. This. This transgender student. It's kind of like a troubled one. Yeah, like, she does cause a lot of trouble. She's just a troublemaker.

A (24:52)

Her.

C (24:52)

Like, it's. It doesn't even have to do with her gender, but she's. She's just causing a lot of trouble. And. And really, it's.

A (25:00)

With the bathroom.

C (25:01)

Yeah. And she's protected, of course, through policy. Like, she wants to go to the girl's bathroom, but she's causing drama with the girls. It's not even her just going in there and going to the bathroom, and it's. She's causing drama. And, yeah, families are getting upset. Set. Because she does look really male.

E (25:21)

Really?

C (25:22)

Yes. So you know what I mean? And, you know, and still has the male part. So dress is pretty. It's a different thing. But she's protected. And though, if the girls feel uncomfortable going into the restroom knowing that there's a transgender in there, they have the option of coming to our restrooms too.

F (25:41)

I'll give her counseling. This school base is here, obviously, for, like, medical. We have our provider.

A (25:49)

She's our medical provider, and we'll refer her to the right people. If we can't, like, do it here,

C (25:56)

we'll refer to the right people.

A (25:59)

Okay. So there's a lot to break down in this one, because, my gosh, I mean, I was laughing. It's not funny. But I'm laughing at this woman because she's saying, yes, she's a real troublemaker. It has nothing to do with her gender, and she's talking about a guy. It is clearly the trouble that she is causing is directly related to the gender issue, because the whole disturbance is because of this man that is using the girl's restroom. And it just seems like the school is more concerned with making sure that the transgender child is comfortable rather than the women or the girls. And they say, you know, oh, well, we have a single stall restroom that everyone can use. Okay, we need to get away from these bathrooms. Like my, my opinion on the bathroom debate, all new builds have to have single stall restrooms or doors that go all the way to the top and there's a lock on them. I feel like that is the only way to get around this transgender bathroom issue, because I fear that this is not going away.

B (27:05)

Yeah. And I think that's the way a lot of the new construction is going. But the thing that stood out to me is you're hearing all of this craziness and then the worker says, but he's protected by the policy. And so instead of changing the policy and recognizing, as you said, recognizing that this is affecting everyone else, everyone else is being affected for one person instead of changing that policy, we just, we have to live by the policy because we've got to, you know, affirm this person and we've got to enable, you know, the behavior and all of that and disrupt everyone else. So that is. So for the people you said earlier, for all the people who say this is not happening, these are real world, multiple examples of what exactly is going on in government schools today.

A (27:59)

Yeah. And this is what's happening when a. And again, this is hypothetical. This is a journalist posing as a parent or a guardian. But what about the times when the parent isn't involved at all? It makes you wonder, I mean, if we are so horrified by what we're seeing in these videos, what is happening? Not on camera. What is happening when the parents aren't involved in their kids lives? Not that they're not involved, but they don't know that this is even going on. Like this next video is really highlights how these clinics keep secrets from parents and even from the schools, even. Watch this.

E (28:34)

Okay.

F (28:35)

It's not. We're not affiliated with the school in that. What's said here is kept here.

E (28:40)

It's confidential.

F (28:42)

It is.

E (28:42)

Okay.

F (28:44)

Completely confidential, completely free of charge.

E (28:47)

But they could come in to get talk therapy for. For, I mean, her trans.

F (28:53)

Yeah.

E (28:54)

And, you know, feeling affirmed and all of that. But then. So then do you refer her out for more advanced treatment? Is that usually how it goes?

A (29:05)

Yeah.

F (29:05)

Our agreement with APS is that we don't do that kind of care. But we are a UNM clinic, and so we're affiliated with the Truman center, which does.

C (29:15)

Okay.

F (29:16)

And we are happy to put her in contact with them, get her referred over to them. They're really wonderful.

A (29:25)

Yeah. So this video just highlights how even if the school clinic can't get this done, they have the resources to get this done. If your kid goes to school and it's the school clinic and asks for xyz and they can't give the vaccine or the abortion or the transgender care. Have no fear. We know people who will. And then at that point, the school doesn't even know what's going on because the school is referring outside. And then there's an extra layer of protection where the parents don't even know that the kid went to the in school clinic. Then the in school clinic is referring the child potentially to another outside clinic. The parents have no way of knowing what's going on.

B (30:09)

Exactly, exactly. And that worker there, she referred to unm, and that's University of New Mexico. And so University of New Mexico runs a lot of these clinics and referred to the Truman Center. And you're exactly right. If the school clinic doesn't provide the service they are. I mean, you can see she even flashed a little smile there. They are more than willing to refer them to another clinic or another health center that will do that sort of work.

A (30:42)

Yeah, it's really, really concerning. This is scaring me. I don't even have kids and I'm afraid for my children that don't exist because how can you, how can you get around this? Right? I mean, this is happening in private schools, but are there sort of these in school clinics in private schools, or is it happening in religious schools? Or is this just because of the federal funding and the Medicaid? This is. They have more control in the public schools.

B (31:11)

I have only seen the examples that I saw were only taxpayer funded schools. I didn't see in a lot of private schools. I wouldn't be surprised if that's happening. But this is primarily because the Medicaid funding, federal funding, state funding that is going to these government schools, which then allows them to do this sort of thing. But I think also the mentality is different in government schools versus a lot of private schools.

A (31:41)

Yeah, absolutely. This is why school choice is so important. But then again, these are evildoers in my opinion. And I think when there's a will, there's a way. So I almost feel like there's no way to know for sure. I just think that parents and grandparents and other guardians have to be, be so involved. And I hate this helicopter parent thing, but you really do have to know and ask questions because I'm assuming I'm worried. And for parents and grandparents watching who are rightfully worried about their own children and the children in their lives, you know, you mentioned that Congress is kind of working on this, Republicans are working on this to change this language, because we all voted for President Trump to get rid of this woke stuff in schools and to protect kids. And he did what he could do via executive order to kind of undo this trans stuff. But these people are. They have their workarounds. So for parents and grandparents, besides just getting involved, do you have to run for school board to make a difference? I mean, how do, well, meaning adults save their kids from this nonsense?

B (32:49)

Well, I think it's taxpayers as well. I mean, you don't just have to have a relative in the system, but I think it's taxpayers as well. And we're seeing a lot of school districts. They're constantly coming to taxpayers for money, for millage increases, tax increases, property tax increases, et cetera. And that's the time to ask, but then also just go to a school board meeting and find out, because these are our tax dollars. And what is this costing us? What is the relationship with parents? You know, there's a lot of public school districts, I think, that are open, transparent, they have positive relationships with parents. They want parents involved. But then there's activists that don't. And so I think parents, grandparents, taxpayers, they need to know what's going on in these schools. So it's showing up to a school board meeting, it's running for the school board, it's knowing who is on the school board, but just knowing what's going on.

C (33:53)

Yeah.

A (33:53)

And paying attention to these smaller elections. Right. I mean, Republicans are not so great in a midterm election, not so great on the local level. We get really riled up for, you know, 2024 and the big presidential elections and when President Trump's name is on the ticket, but these lesser known names and politicians and smaller government jobs, I mean, they. This is where this happens. It's very insidious. So, and to your point about talking to your kids, I know we spoke about this before the cameras were rolling, but you've had your own personal experience where you live in a different state, but your son was telling you what something was in his classroom. Can you talk about that?

B (34:33)

Well, there's, I think the word you used was normalized. And I think this, when it comes to the transgender stuff and abortion and sort of these progressive, you know, values, if you want to call them that, they're normalized. And so I've heard stories not only in where I live, but across the country where there's pride flags. Remember during Black Lives Matter, there were Black Lives Matter signs. And so our schools, our classrooms have become, for some of the teachers, sort of a place where they can espouse their personal political views when it has nothing to do with the curriculum. And so, in other words, why would a pride flag well, be in any classroom, but why is it in a math class? And so it's that sort of thing that's just become normalized. I think a lot of kids, you know, shrug it off. We saw in polling and I think in a lot of attitudes in schools that a lot of younger people supported Donald Trump for a variety of reasons. And so. And I do think that some of this culture is changing in America because of Trump. But again, parents have to know what is going on in their classroom, what their kids are being taught, because you just never know.

C (35:56)

Yeah.

A (35:56)

It's like they're being conditioned to be Democrat voters one day. They're, they're doing their darndest to kind of undo the kitchen table conversation. So if you're a Republican parent, make sure that you are, you're talking about this stuff. And it seems it's kind of frustrating because you want kids to be kids. You don't want to have to talk to your kids about sex before you're wanting to have that conversation. You don't want to talk to your kids about politics before they're ready. But it seems like the Democrats and liberal teachers, they are starting so young, it's almost forcing everyone to have these conversations young. So this is very. Something, very. Something very concerning to keep an eye on. And I'm very grateful for your reporting. So, Kyle, plug where people can find more of your reporting and where they can follow you on media social for more.

B (36:46)

Sure. So you can go to townhall.com, you can go to themidwesterner news or you can find me on X. And that's Kyle Olson. K, Y, L, E, O L, S, O N. And the number four.

A (37:00)

Amazing. Thank you so much for being here and thank you to everyone watching. I hope that this interview was enlightening. It certainly was for me. Pay attention to what's happening in those schools. We need to. And we got to save this next generation. So thank you for being here. Of course you can follow me on social media at Haley Carania everywhere on socials and I'll see you right back here next time. Thank you.