Hailey Karenia (12:53)
Bill Clinton, you name it, right? We've seen all these names, and for the last four years, we've been left to our own devices to just like, dream up whatever scenario we wanted to because there was no confirmation from the government. And I think because we saw the flight logs, we assumed that there was a client list. But now I'm thinking, like, what? Criminals are consciously leaving a paper trail of their crimes. Not many. So I can be convinced of that. Like, it's not like there's a bouncer at the door of Epstein's island with a checklist and an order form of, like, you know, what girls they ordered and what. What their name is and what time they showed up. Like, that probably doesn't exist. So I can believe that there isn't a, quote, client list. However, you have to ask yourself, I mean, they claim that there's footage of Jeffrey Epstein. Like, is there not footage of other people? Like, can they not get the other people? So I can also believe that Jeffrey Epstein wanted to commit suicide. We obviously know that the first suicide attempt, the video of that was deleted because of course it was, right? Like, the whole thing is so absurd. So of course we don't have footage of that, which makes me think, too. Who at Manhattan Correctional wanted that deleted? Did they want it deleted because it looked bad, or was it really, like, they just hired the dumbest idiots on planet Earth to work there? I don't know. But again, that's just another thing that's part of this perfect storm where, you know, the guards were sleeping, the cameras were broken, this was deleted, the backups were deleted. I mean, it all sounds so stupid. Is it possible that they just hired the most incompetent ever? Like, I guess, but it just doesn't seem likely. But I can believe that Jeffrey Epstein wanted to commit suicide because, like I said, one of the most prolific pedophiles in history. And, you know, pedophiles don't do well in prison. So I could understand Jeffrey Epstein wanting to end his life because he's sitting in a jail cell coming to grips that he committed the most disgusting crimes that you could possibly commit. Everyone wants him dead, and he probably felt pretty worthless. So I can believe that he wanted to kill himself. I can believe that the same perfect storm that allowed me to believe for years that someone killed him could also leave the door open for him to kill himself. Again, I'm. I'm coming to grips with this at the same time as all of. All of you are. Like, it doesn't really make sense, but I'm willing to keep an open mind. That's where I stand right now. And, you know, now with Jeffrey Epstein dead and Ghislaine Maxwell in jail, these are the remaining questions for me, because this is not over. Like, I'm not taking my tinfoil hat off right yet. I'm not ready to do it right yet. I want to know who Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn Maxwell trafficked children to. That part of the equation has not been addressed. And I don't understand. Like, they didn't abuse all of these women and children by themselves. Like, we. Again, we don't have the client list, but we had flight logs. Here's what I don't know. Is the FBI investigating all these people, and we just don't know. Is there? I don't know. Like, I just. I don't know. And it also, again, raises questions to me about Manhattan Correctional Center. Is it possible? Because I haven't thought about this, really, since before this morning. Like, I just started thinking about this this morning. So I'm kind of going through the whole conspiracy theory and all of my new thoughts now, but I had never thought that there was any other outcome other than someone killed Jeffrey Epstein. I had never thought about that. So now I'm thinking about, what about Manhattan Correctional? Were the guards tipped off? Did they know that Jeffrey Epstein was on suicide watch? They knew that he wanted to commit suicide, Obviously. These guards are dumb and horrible at their jobs. Is it possible that they were tipped off? Is it possible that they were helping Epstein? Like, these are questions that come to mind now that I'm thinking of other options. And I'm just being honest. Like, I really didn't think about this before because I wanted to believe that he didn't kill himself. So, I mean, it wouldn't surprise me if the guards were bribed. Both of these guards, by the way, got sweetheart deals. They didn't go to jail, and none of them, Neither of them work for the Bureau of Prisons anymore. So we'll probably never find that answer out, because it seems like the DOJ and, you know, everyone's just, like, done with this. It's like, yeah, like, that's what it seems like. It's like here. Here's like, we're. We've come to this conclusion that there's, you know, no foul play. He killed himself. And, like, I. I still have questions that I feel like at this point, I don't know if we're going to find them out. But I'm wondering, like, how the system got so corrupt and broken. Are, you know, our prison guards and people all the way up at the top at Manhattan Correctional, Are they overworked? Underpaid? Is that why corruption happens? Is this all by design to let people of certain influence off? I don't know. Like, this all ties into Diddy, too. Like, Diddy's there, and it just seems like his charges get, you know, dropped. And, I don't know. Like, it just seems like if you're a pedophile in this world, you get off scot free. That's what it feels like to me. And I know I don't love talking about this, but I've talked about it on the show before that I was molested when I was younger. I testified against my abuser and he was found not guilty. I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt he was guilty. So I know I've experienced this firsthand that horrible people who do horrible things, they aren't held accountable. I think that the justice system is completely broken. We can't rely on it. I think it's just a scam. I genuinely think it's a scam. And I think this boils down to expectations versus reality, because for the entirety of Biden's presidency, conservatives thought, well, you know, this is the reason why we're not getting this information. So for four years we heard nothing. And the least transparent White House in history allowed our minds to run wild. And we believe that, like, once Trump is president, it'll all be different. And Attorney General Pam Bondi and her binder stunt did not help with the public's perception of how they handled this at all. That was our first impression of Trump's second administration handling Epstein, and that was a disaster of biblical proportions. So they misread the room big time. When we asked for transparency, that didn't mean delivering old redacted Epstein files to DC Drano and Libs of TikTok. Like, that's not how any of us wanted this to go down. So then Attorney General Pam Bondi teased tens of thousands of videos of Epstein with underage girls. And in this memo that they released today, they mentioned those same tens of thousands of videos. Obviously, I can understand not releasing them because it's CSAM and it's, it's child porn and it's wildly insensitive for the victims. I can understand that. But what happened to those? Is it just Epstein on the videos or other. Are there other clients on the videos? Are their faces not in the videos? Are there other ways to identify people? Like, who else is implicated? Like, I still have questions. And then, you know, AG Bondi claimed that the field office in the Southern District of New York was blocking documents from her office. I don't know whatever happened with that. So that botched handling was everyone's first impression of how the Trump administration or his second administration was handling Epstein. That is very hard to come back from. So now Trump's administration, they can't go back and find footage that doesn't exist. So if it was deleted by morons at Matt Manhattan Correctional. Okay. I don't know how. Maybe there's a way to retrieve deleted, deleted and then backup videos that were deleted. I don't know. I guess not. So, you know, I don't expect Director Patel and Deputy Director Bongino to find footage of an incident if it never happened, that's not their fault. But I would also imagine that other investigations that were started under a Biden's DOJ would have to either be thoroughly reviewed or thrown out and redone. Like real life is not a Criminal Minds episode. It doesn't take like 20 minutes plus commercial breaks to figure this out. So, I mean, I thought recently about all of these recent cases, like Karen reed, that was 2022. They just came to a conclusion recently. Same with the Idaho University murders that happened in 2022. They just came out with something recently. Diddy. I mean, like all these, like high profile murder murder cases and high profile cases, it takes time. So, you know, Diddy's been in jail for a year already. He's going to be sentenced three months from now. Like, these things take years. And there are keyboard warriors on the Internet saying, like, it's been four months. Why isn't Hillary Clinton in handcuffs? And it's been four months. Why haven't I seen sitting Senator Adam Schiff get perp walked? Like, I think these people need to manage their expectations and ask themselves and be honest with yourselves when you answer it. Are you upset with this information because you wanted it to be different and you're unable to let go of your strongly held beliefs? And are you a little cocky because we political conspiracy theories, we have always been right and potentially this is the first time we've been wrong. And I just want to say I don't blame anyone who answered yes to that question. I don't blame anyone, by the way, who will go to their grave believing that Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself. And I can honestly tell you right now, I don't know what to think. But I also want to be very transparent with all of you. I have not spoken one word to Dan since he left here in March. Not one. Not a text, not a phone call, not an email. Justin came up to me at church yesterday and said, hey, did you see Dan? I didn't see him. I didn't know that he was there, so I didn't talk to him. And Silverlock hired me to host this show and say whatever I think, even if it's critical. I have full editorial control over this show. I have never Once been told to cover something or not cover something. I'm not afraid to be critical. I just was. I have in the past. But I'm also open and willing to think critically about new information. Like, I was honest with you today. I had never thought that there was really any way that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself. Like, I really didn't. And I have to be honest, like, this is very difficult. But I'm trying to unpack my bias and look at this differently. And unfortunately, we have all been conditioned to absolutely hate the government, and I hate the government along with you. And we have been conditioned to distrust the media at every turn. So I will never fault a fellow conspiracy theorist for staying true to what they believe in, ever. I just hope that we are all willing to challenge ourselves when necessary. But that's really all I can say on this for now. I, I feel like I need more information and there isn't. And I don't know if we're ever going to get more, you know.