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Exposing American Schools w/ Alvin Lui - Scrolling w/ Hayley (Ep. 309)
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In this episode of Scrolling: The American education system has become a breeding ground for indoctrination and grooming. Inside how the teachers unions, school boards, medical professionals and political activists sink their teeth into our nation’s children. Courage Is A Habit founder Alvin Lui exposes all the ways children are groomed in classrooms and equips parents and grandparents with the knowledge to fight back.
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Welcome into Scrolling with Haley. I'm Haley Karenia. As always, I want to remind you to subscribe to this show rumble.com Haley brings you to the Bongino Report channel. That's where you can watch this show live Monday to Friday at noon. If you can't watch this live, that's okay. You can watch us whenever you want. And of course you can listen and watch on Spotify or listen on your other favorite podcast platforms. All I ask is that you tell a friend. Especially today, because we are discussing an important topic that impacts every single one of us. How do I know that? Because I know that every single one of you has been to school and school looks very different now. And maybe you have a loved one. Maybe it's a younger sibling, a niece, a nephew, son, daughter, grandchild in school today. And you should be aware of what may be happening when they're in school. For thousands and thousands of dollars and thousands and thousands of hours per year, children are not just groomed sexually in school. They're groomed politically, ideologically and even medically. It is a predatory system where parents are purposefully kept out of the loop and teachers unions, school boards and professional indoctrinators sink their teeth into the next generation. And I've got one of my favorite guests on deck to expose it all. But first, a quick message from our sponsor, so Beam their Dream Powder. Let me just tell you, this one is different. Not just because it changed how I sleep, but because of the great folks that make it. Beam is American made. Real people building something that actually helps people right here at home. Every night it is the same story. You know how I feel? You're tossing, you're turning in the middle of the night. You're staring at the ceiling, dragging through the next day. But now with Dream, I sleep through the night and I wake up ready to take on the day. Dream is made with a powerful blend of all natural ingredients. Reishi, magnesium, L theanine liquid, apigenin and melatonin. Spring is here, summer's right around the corner and tis the season to show up strong. So do it with something made by Americans for Americans. Do it with Dream. Go to shop beam.com scroll and use code scroll to get my exclusive offer for up to 40% off Beam's dream Powder. So with my discount Code scroll you can get their best selling dream powder for just $39. And if you've been meaning to fix your sleep, now is the time. Get Dream their best selling sleep powder for up to 40% off. And if you watch this show, you know him, you love him. Alvin Louie is president of Courage is a Habit. It's an organization that equips parents and legislators with strategies to protect children's innocence. Alvin Louie, how are you?
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I'm doing good. I'm doing great. Thank you so much for having me back. Always a, always a pleasure to see you.
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I always love having you on and you are the perfect guest for this because I want to hit on all of the ways that schools groom children. Like I said in the intro, sexually, politically, ideologically, medically. But to set the scene, I think we have to kick this off by exposing the teachers unions because they're really at the crux of what's going on in these schools. So my first question to you is what are teachers unions actually supposed to do?
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What they're supposed to do is support teachers and fight for more pay, fight for better classrooms, better environment for kids, things of that nature. But of course, if they've been that way, they've been that way for a minute and they haven't been that way for much of their existence. And so, you know, if you go to our website, if you go to courageoushabit.org and type in five teacher union lies, we actually expose the five biggest lies. And so when they start marching, like they always have these march house, they'll close schools and they have all these protests. It's really about a few things. Number one, they'll tell you it's about teacher pay, smaller class sizes, it's just about, you know, about picket line, things like that. But really what they do is that they funnel these teacher activists to left wing campaigns and candidates. That's one big thing that they do. They teach these, these teachers are teachers activists, they're campaigners. They move, they brainwash children to only left wing ideology. 95% of their teacher union dues go to left wing causes or candidates. And also it's a money, it's a money laundering scheme. It really, that's what it is. They say they want more money.
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How they make all this money? Like, where is all this money coming from? How are they getting so much?
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A lot of it is the teacher dues, a ton of teacher dues. They get all these different, you know, grants and all these different things. It's just, it's. They are really a big money making scheme between government, between dues, between tons of, you know what it is, is a lot of private donations from left wing groups. That's really where a lot of that comes from. And so, and you name it, you name a, a left wing NGO they're giving to the teachers union one way or another. And then in turn they, then the teachers union then gives it over to any left wing causes or candidates. That's one big thing. That's all for the political side that they do. Then the other side of it is that they're always pushing for more radical curriculum, be it critical race theory, queer theory, all the mental health, and keeping secrets from parents. We've talked about this on your wonderful show quite a bit. All that is being pushed. So really the teachers union is such a powerful force in both the political side, the candidate side policies, and then at the same time they push all this curriculum in all K12 in all 50 states.
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Yeah, you've said before, and I think it's pretty brilliant that teachers unions rely on parents being too tired or too busy to pay attention so that they can do what necessarily. How do teachers unions lie to parents?
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The lie is always through emotional blackmail. It's always through what we call language contamination. And they bet the easiest way to remember language contamination is the usual vocabulary, but not your dictionary. And so one of the things that we try to teach parents is this one phrase that my beautiful co founder coined is through whose lens? So, and actually this applies not just In K through 12, it applies to anything outside of schools as well. Open borders, you name it. Every time they tell you it's just about compassion, empathy, supporting our neighbors. Good people take that at face value. But remember, they use your vocabulary but not your dictionary. And so if you stop and ask yourself through whose lens, that really helps put guardrails in your mind so that your empathy doesn't get weaponized. So for example, if the school tells you, oh, we're just teaching students social emotional skills like empathy, someone like you or someone like your mom would go, this is great, but through whose lens? Through your grandmother, Your mother's lens. Wonderful. Through the lens of a transgender cultist. Through the. Through the lens of someone that believes your daughter can be born in the wrong body, to someone that believes a boy should be in the same shower as your daughter. Through that lens, empathy is a whole different thing. Just like anti bullying, just like be kind. And so the teachers union, just like school counselors, will tell you things that on, on the face value, if you don't ask yourself through whose lens, if you don't understand language contamination, it sounds great. Who doesn't want more class sizes? Who doesn't want teacher to be paid more? But they don't, they don't tell you that it's not that the teachers aren't being paid. Right. It's that the schools are squandering millions of dollars towards this social justice activist.
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Right?
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And so here's the. Here's the. Here's one thing that we've discovered over the years of, you know, courage is a habit. And here's the thing, Haley, that. That is the wrong premise. Every American starts off with the wrong premise. So we can talk about this a lot, but it never gets to the root. It never gets to the root cause because we start off with the wrong premise. And here's the wrong premise. 99 of Americans still believe that government K through 12. It's about academics, meaning writing, math, that kind of thing. It's not. The purpose of Government K through 12 is exactly what you see. Protecting illegal aliens, social justice activists, transgender ideology, that kind of thing. Anti white, anti American. So every time we see the dismal scores of academics, everyone goes, I can't believe this. Look at. This is so horrible. Or we see the children marching to protect ICE like we did earlier in the year.
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Yes, I want to talk about that.
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I can't believe it. Yeah, we'll talk about that. They said, we can't believe it. We can't believe it. But you can't believe it because your premise is wrong. You believe that there should be academics. So they're like, we should get back to academics. There's nothing to get back to. That's not what their purpose is. So if you switch that premise, Haley, and you think. And everybody goes, okay, government K12 is about creating social justice activists, and then you see the results, and then you combine the mission and the results. You will not say government K through 12 is a failure. It is not a failure. It is a huge success. But you got to change your premise first. And if you do that, then we can start hitting the solutions.
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Right? A success to who? And, you know, you mentioned these protests, and it's not just earlier in the year. I mean, I saw there were mayday protests in the spring where it just seems like every few months, they find a thing to go rally around, and it's. It's all funded by the same people. But what's concerning is that it's not just, you know, the college graduate that went to school for women's studies, and now they're a barista, and they have nothing better to do, and they're living in Minneapolis. It's not just them. They're grooming children in schools to grow up to be just like them. Because the mayday protests used to be about, you know, workers rights and things like that. Why would children be participating in that anyway? I don't know. Like, unless we. We do have child labor laws in this. But then it's like, it's the no kings people are also behind the May Day, and then it's anti ice and ice out and all these things. So it's all of the liberal ideal ideologies are. Are wrapped into one, essentially. And in Chicago, the teachers union was working with the public school system to make sure that any child who wanted to protest during school hours could do so. And they said that they were getting parents permission. But I was curious to get your take on that, because I wonder what actually they said to the parents to get, you know, you get a school permission slip and the kid goes home, hey, mom, can I go do this with my class? And they just say, sure. You know, working moms tired, you know, you got other kids at home, babies. It's like, sure, you could go to this thing. But do they really know what they're getting into? Probably not.
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No, they don't. It's a lot of, if you don't want your kids to do this, you can opt out. And parents don't read anything. They don't read their emails. They don't do that, which is, you know, obviously an issue as well. And we're saying, you know, this is why courage is a habit. We. We don't ever really say, we protect your kids. We give you the tools, protect your kids. Because nothing replaces a parent that's active and that's that they get a lot. They get pat. They get that pass a lot. A lot of this stuff gets right over their heads because parents simply don't pay attention. Because so many parents, again, they start off with the wrong premise. They believe that when you drop your kids off at school, it's supposed to be about academics. And yeah, you might have one or two nutty teachers, but they don't understand that the whole system is that way. You know, you and I had this great show last year in 2020 life, when we talked about these books where they were in Maine, they dropped like, over 6,100 books. And it's happening all over the country where they were teaching kids at an elementary, middle school level to have compassion and empathy for illegal aliens. And so it's funny because we had covered that in, in your show, like in late 2025 and then and around January, February of this year, in 2026, they started doing this anti ice march and then parents were like, parents were like. And I shared that clip so much because it was so, it was so timely. We just didn't know it was going to be so timely so quickly because so many parents we heard from ghosts went, what, what teacher got my child to do this? So let's say it was a freshman or sophomore in high school or maybe like a, you know, eighth grader in middle school. They'll think, what teacher got my child to do this? Who influenced him? Or who influenced her in the last couple months? And I said, well, you're not. She didn't get influence at 16, she was influenced at 6. Yeah, you're, you're not, you're not a month late coming.
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Yeah, long time coming. The books told them to be empathetic towards these things, you know, years ago. And now, of course, if you have the opportunity to go fight for these people and you know, they think that they're doing something, but they're not, they're going to say yes. And you know what's interesting too, I want to talk to you because the teachers unions are, are at the crux of this, but also the school boards. And would you say that the school boards have more control over the curriculum?
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Yeah, for sure, because the school board is a, it's more local, more localized and in fact, you know, if you go to courage is a habit.org if anybody wants to see our exposures on school boards, exactly who they are, who they support, how they spend their money. If you go to courageisahabit.org and type in wolf. Just type in wolf. O W O L F. Just type in wolf. We have a series called Wolf in School's Clothing and it's a three part series that exposes the school boards and exactly how what they support. The school boards have an enormous amount of impact because they decide policy, they craft and pass policies that directly influence your child's day to day life in a school district. So obviously they take a ton of guidance from the teachers unions. They do, they are a mouthpiece for the teachers unions. But there's also these micro things that they do. So for example, if you have a good school board that says we're, we're going to get all the, that queer smut, obscenity, that pornography out of schools, we're not going to keep transgender secrets from parents. There's. The teachers unions can come down and try to put some pressure, but they cannot change the policy in your district. That's not what the teachers unions they cannot impact that. They want to impact that, and they have people in the school boards to impact that. But if you have a good school board, there's a lot that they can. Kind of almost like a dam that they put over. Over the teachers union. But. And here's the but. So many parents and so many people don't run for school boards because they don't even know what it is, and they don't know what it is. And that's the problem, is that they're very focused on these big, big things. They'll follow national politics. They'll, you know, talk about what Trump's doing or this war and that war, which is fine, I get it. Those are very exciting things. But it's your local. It's your local city council, your local county council, and your local school board. That's where the war is won. And a lot of these people, Haley, I'm telling you, it's disgusting. We've been, you know, like, some of these. Some of these school board members that expose. They won because they've got, like, 400 votes. That's it. 400 people came out and voted for this lunatic. And then they sit there for two years or three years, depending on the state and the damage they can do. Four or 500 people, Haley, sometimes less, sometimes they win by, like, 120 votes. That's it. You're telling me you can't find 121 people that doesn't believe in this?
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Of course. And, you know, it's so funny that you say that. I was walking in town the other day, and I saw this elderly woman, and she was sitting down. It was a hot day out. You know, we're in South Florida, so it's a hot day. This older woman is sitting down, and she's sort of sitting down on, like, a windowsill. And then there's this younger woman with a clipboard, and she's got her bucket hat on and, you know, pins and whatever. And she's stopping people walking by saying, would you vote for her for. For school board? And she's pointing to this elderly woman that, like, can barely stand up, and she's saying, would you vote for her for school board? And people are just walking by, and it's like, well, it's just this old woman, like, sure. You know, so people. I'm, like, watching people. I'm just watching this happening from afar because there's no way. I'm like, I. I wasn't even to get into it, but I see these people stopping and they're signing this thing, and I'm like, this is how these people get into office.
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You literally have. And the Democrat Party, they have done this. They did it with Biden. They put up a corpse, and then they put some lipstick on a pig. And then they're like, see, this is a great candidate. And then people vote for it.
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So this is happening in school boards, too. And I'm thinking, you know, I don't even want to get myself started getting into it with this girl in her bucket hat and all of her pins. I'm like, I don't want to know what this woman stands for, but the fact that she can barely stand herself and someone else is advocating on her behalf, I'm like, I mean, it's just like, this is a vessel for the younger generation, and who knows what they're trying to push to get, like, a body on the school board that they can manipulate. That's what I felt like I was watching.
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That's so funny. That's hilarious. I can only imagine your face when you saw that. You're like, I got to say.
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I got to record here. No, because here's the thing. I say this all the time. I'm a lover, not a fighter. I'm not good at debates. I'm not. I don't like yelling at people. I don't like fighting. I know my stuff, and I know that I have the facts on my side, but I'm like, this isn't worth. This isn't worth it. You know, what am I going to do? Yell at this old woman in the middle of town? Like, I'm not going to come out and look like the good guy. And that's what they're doing, and they're doing it by design. They're like, you can't yell at this old woman. So, you know.
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You know what's going on. You know, it's gonna be like Haley from Bonjito Report yelling at old woman.
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That's why I was like, this is not worth it for me to go yell at this old woman. It's not going to end well for me. But I wanted to talk to you about the lack of conservative teachers. It seems. Because this seems like there's this education system that a lot of these teachers are brought up in, and it just seems like liberals are the ones that are jumping at the opportunity to get into the classrooms and be with the kids. Is that by design? And if so, then where are the conservative teachers? Have they just given up?
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Okay, so I'm going to give you the political like in terms of the mechanical answer and then I'm going to give you the real answer as well. Okay, so all right, so the mechanical answer of it is, is that all the teachers colleges are left wing. So there is no such thing as a neutral teacher college. It's all critical race theory, all anti white, all queer theory. That's all it is. So even if you're just a teacher that wants to go in and teach like a normal teacher, like we've always classically knows teachers as, you know, math, reading, reading. Right. Just be normal. Call boy, a boy, girl, girl. They are still going to go through the same training. Now they can fight it and they can say no, I'm not, I don't believe it, but I'm just going to take the test, I'm going to answer the questions this way and then. But when they get into the system they are so bullied and they are so doxxed and they are that under such immense pressure that to go along with this left wing ideology that unless you have an enormous amount of parental pushback at your particular school, it's very difficult for that. I'm not even calling conservative teacher. This is a normal teacher, that normal teacher to not be swept up into it. So a couple things happen. Number one, they quit or they get fired. And, and because in fact my co founder Jennifer Williams was a teacher in Indiana with no stoplights. Think about how rural that is. Not no stoplights. And in 2019 she started seeing what you and I are talking about today in Indiana and she started telling parents, hey I, I don't think this is right. And they fired her. This is my co founder. And so that's what happens.
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Upset parents in rural Indiana were upset that their teacher was against all the woke stuff.
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Yes, that, can you believe that A lot of these woke white women are like no, that's not happening, that's right wing conspiracy. And then the school fired her because she was speaking out against it in her own time. It's not like she was picking it in front of the school. She was at night time she's going, hey guys, I'm finding this social emotional learning, they're not going to use gendered language. And she was, she didn't understand like, oh, this is critical race theory. She just saw what it was and she was trying to going this is wrong. Now of course today she's, you know, you know, nation's leading expert on, on you know, critical race theory and social emotional learning and all that. But back then she was just trying to warn parents. Hey, I don't think this is right. She's thinking, oh, if I tell parents, they're going to come in and go, hey, we don't want this. And that's not what happened. And so that's what happens to teachers that are good teachers, just normal teachers. She wasn't trying to push an ideology. She just wanted to teach. Wow. So that is what happens to good teachers. Okay? That's exactly what happens. Even if they want to kind of buck the system. Now that being said, my co founder Jennifer is actually a very unique, she's actually quite a unique person to teach because she's actually really, really smart. Most teachers, and here's the answer, here's the true answer, they're dumb as hell. They truly are dumb as hell. So the, the people who would be good teachers wouldn't go into the teaching professor because even when they look at this, they go, this is such a waste of time. This is such a waste of time. You're not really teaching. And then you've got huge amount of, you know, a lot of red tape, like with the teachers unions, with all this government bureaucracy. So the best educators wouldn't go into teaching because the teaching profession only attracts the dumbest people alive with the easiest high emotional blackmail. You can blackmail them. Really, really easy to manipulate. So you've got the, the education system is mostly feminine. Even the guys that are in the education system, a lot of them are just feminine. And so that's where even if they are kind of like not woke it, they get manipulated so easily, right? So easily. And that's, and that's what, some people don't want to say that because they don't want to sound mean about it, right? But I got to tell you, I mean, you know, I've talked, I don't care about that, you know that, you know, I can talk about people, you know, like the open borders and all those different things, but damn, I gotta tell you, Kaylee, the dumbest people I've ever met in my whole life is an education. And not just like academic K through 12. The school counselors, the teachers, the school board members. It's unbelievable. I would not, I would not trust these people to watch a goldfish. They were just dumb.
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I saw a tick Tock video recently and this, it was about homeschooling. And you know, some woman said, you are smarter than you think. If you are thinking about homeschooling your kid, you are smarter than you think. And you would be shocked to know how Stupid. Some of these teachers are exactly what you had just said. And I do think that that's eye opening for people to hear and important for people to hear because if you can recognize how perverse some of this education is and you know that it's wrong for your children, you're smarter than the people that you're gonna stick your kid in a classroom with for eight hours a day. So I did want to talk about some of that perverse content because, and we've talked about this before, but there are sexual themes being pushed on children in the form of literature in schools and school boards and, and educators, they are a okay with it. They think that there's nothing wrong with it. The ones that people talk about a lot are books called the Gay bcs, Gender Queer A Memoir, All Boys Aren't Blue. It's perfectly normal. Flamer People talk about a lot. This book is gay. And I have a video for you and for the listeners. This is Minnesota Republican Senator Michael Holmstrom. He was shut down in a Senate committee hearing for reading just a little bit of this book. This book is gay. And it was too inappropriate for the women in the room, but not too inappropriate for the kids in school.
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Listen to this, to that age appropriate question and to what we want to invest in for our culture. I guess I look at some of the books that we're seeing commonly implemented in our libraries. We see. I actually went this morning and found this book is gay. From some of our local libraries. Many of many of the libraries that testified here today do have it in stock on their shelves, recommended in the teen section as young as 12 years old. And this book, among other things, it recommends to young children how to flirt in gay bars. It recommends to children how to enter into non consensual sexual relationships. And I'll read here, oral sex is popping another dude's peen in your mouth or intending or indeed popping yours and his. There's only one way hard and fast rule when it comes to blowjobs. Watch the teeth. And then it goes on to say that. That letting any guy come in your mouth is safe sex.
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No, no, Madam Chair, thank you.
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Oh, this is inappropriate for this committee.
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We don't need to read items that's that actually it's not the things that you're reading that are inappropriate. You got your clippable moment. Maybe we can just move on.
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Well, just. It just seems absurd that this is appropriate for a 12 year old, but not for the senators in this committee. But I will take it.
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And is it that really concerning that she was more concerned about him getting a clippable moment. And she says, no, it's. It's not the content that's inappropriate. It's you. You're being inappropriate because you are exposing it.
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Well, this is a perfect example, Haley, of what I said earlier about asking the question through whose lens? Because if you don't have someone like him or like school board, parental rights, like movements like ours, read these books, if you listen to NBC or legacy media or these dishonest Democrats or these people in schools, they will say, it's about book banning. Now, remember I said earlier, through whose lens? Yes, through the lens of a normal person, they'll say, yeah, no, of course we don't want book ban. But through a lens of someone who's perverse, who wants to sexualize your children, this is what they mean by book banning. And so for those listening, if you want to see parts of this book, you can go to courageisahabit.org and just type in this book is gay in the search. And we actually have excerpts from that book. And I, you know, I'm going to tell you, this book gives you a glossary of terms that I think adults probably don't even know. It is absolutely disgusting. Yeah, I don't even want to say it on your show, so give you a glossary.
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They want to desensitize parents to it. They also want to desensitize children to it. They want to grow up. They want to raise these children thinking that these things are normal. So that when a gay man tries to flirt with them, they're like, well, I can't say no because I read this book before and it's totally normal. And all the adults in my life told me it was totally normal. Meanwhile, these adults are grooming.
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It's 100 grooming. And so one of the things that I think a lot of parents don't understand about the way that brains work for kids is we all, when we're born, our amygdala is pretty blank. There's really no, we don't understand the world. There's. We don't assign values to anything. And throughout growing up, our amygdala starts to assign values. Now the amygdala really has one major job, and it's to be fast, not accurate. What I mean by that, Haley, is, so let's say if you're walking through the forest and you're walking through the forest and you see something brown that moves and the leaves, as you grow up, you learn to Jump back. And then again, we're talking about, like just, you know, you go about, you know, how you evolutionary develop your, your, your, your amygdala. Because when you jump back, you, your brain doesn't know if it's a stick or if it's a snake. But the amygdala's job is to have speed, not accuracy. Because if you jump back and you realize, oh, it's a stick, so you're wrong, it's not a snake, no problem, no harm.
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No.
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But if your amygdala's right, but if your amygdala isn't firing and then you don't jump back and you go, well, maybe it's a stick and you're wrong and is a snake, then you're in trouble. So the amygdala is about speed, not accuracy. And this is how we all grow up. So we're taught, hey, this area is not safe. These kind of people are not safe. This environment's not safe. And so when we grow up as an adult, you and I call it a sixth sense, a gut feeling. But really, there's a physiological explanation for it. Is amygdala telling us this is something's wrong. Now, what the WOKE does, and this is especially for girls, for women, women's amygdala needs to fire faster because you rather hurt someone's feelings and be wrong than to preserve someone's feelings and be wrong. So, for example, they tell girls, oh, if you're going to dark alley, you see a bunch of black guys, don't cross the street. Okay, if you cross the street, you might offend them and you might be wrong, but if you don't, that's worse. So that's what WOKE does to girls. Now go back to what you said about the books about drag queens, about all these different things they're teaching kids. Don't offend, have compassion, have empathy. So when you're wrong, and you will be, because these people are sexual degenerates, that's why they want to pretend to be women being girls, locker rooms and things. Now, your amygdala doesn't fire until it's too late. That is what they're trying to override. It's very difficult to do it when you're like 35 or 25 even. But it's easy to do it when the amygdala isn't rewritten yet, hasn't been written. And so when they're telling these kids, especially girls, to not react, or otherwise it might, you're not an Ally, these are marginalized people. They're assigning a value to something that should be scary and it's not. And that amygdala is a huge portion of how, especially women keep themselves safe. Because it's better to be fast and hurt someone's feeling than to be slow and realize, oh, this is actually a dangerous situation. Because once you get yourself in that situation, it's very difficult to get out of it, especially if you're a child or even women in general. Just because, you know, men attack women and they're stronger and those type of things.
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Yeah, they're playing on their feminine tendencies.
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Yeah, but that's why it. So that's why, you know, one of the big things for us is that embrace exclusion. You know, my whole mantra about reject inclusion and embrace exclusion because excluding people and hurting people's feelings, that's not your problem. If someone's feelings hurt because you, you know, because you don't want them around you and stuff, then that's something for them to deal with. And as a parent, I don't get. I don't care about other people's feelings. I care about protecting my. And every parent should take that, to take that attitude, because there's so many people that take advantage of that, especially in the schools. And so that rejecting exclusion will say, oh, if you're being exclusive, that's not good. It's absolutely good. It's abs. Not always a good. It's your duty as parents to teach your children to be exclusive because being exclusive allows you to protect yourself.
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Absolutely. And some of the themes in these books, I mean, they. It's not just sexual. I mean, they. They do get into hookup culture and things like that, which is not good to teach young people, but also abortion and things like that. And, you know, when I was in school, we had sex ed, but it was nothing like what they're teaching now. And it was nothing like at this age. I remember, I think I was in fifth grade when we had our first sort of school assembly on like, puberty and what to expect, which looking back, I mean, it was pretty benign, but also kind of unnecessary. I feel like parents teach you this stuff. So why are. Why are people learning it in school? But what has changed?
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Well, sex ed is not about biology. It's about ideology today. And so there is an organization called a cicus S I E C U S. And SIKAS is the organization that drives the majority of the sexual education in K12 now in your schools is called Comprehensive sex ED, or CSM Comp 6 CSE Comprehensive Sex Ed. And they will teach your children every sexual deviancy positions. I'm you talking about anal sex, butt plugs, you name it, they will introduce you to it. Children, children, children. The, the, the, the middle school for sure. They're the Sikhs. Guidelines for sex ed. Starts teaching masturbation at 5 years old. It is literally in their guidelines. It is. And so I, I'm going to give you a link. I'm going to tell you we've got the videos from Sikus. If you go to courageousahabit.org click on search and type in Sikus S I E C U S. We have videos from a webinar where Sikhus is talking about the experts that they use. And so I'm gonna, I'll let you guys pull that up. Haley, we could have another segment. We could just talk about that. Because it is, don't watch this at work, I'm telling you. And these are the people that are driving sexual education in your, in your children. Now Haley, I will tell you that there is one thing, there's only one thing that these comprehensive sex ed doesn't teach. They'll teach you a, every sexual permutation and deviancy and, and sexual positions and all, all these things. But there's one thing they don't teach. There's one thing they don't show and that is ultrasounds. Wow. Because, Wow.
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I wonder why. Because they want to push the abortion thing and they want to have all these women and boys, by the way, grow up thinking that, you know, it's life doesn't begin at conception. They want to think that life is just, you know, trash.
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If you feel that way, they don't show ultrasounds. Now sex obviously is the idea for proper creation. So why wouldn't they show ultrasound? Exactly what you said. Because Planned Parenthood is a huge partner and supporter of Sikhus.
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And they also think that if these. Right. And if these kids get pregnant in school, they're thinking, well, they would never choose life.
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Never choose life, right? So if you show an ultrasound, so saying here, this is ultrasound, here's a baby at three months and here's a baby at four months and move them on. Every child is going to go, that's a baby. And especially girls. They're so. You ever been around little girls? They think like they can pick up a rock and they'll take care of it.
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Yeah.
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Because women that girls love taking care of things, even inanimate objects. So they can't show the ultrasound because it shows life. But they will introduce all these sexual orientation and everything. And that is what, that is what comprehensive sex ed is today in all your K through 12.
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Wow. And it just gets me angry too, because the sooner that, you know, and when I had these sex ed things in fifth grade, sixth grade and beyond. Yeah, you know, kids will go home and maybe ask questions. But it's what makes me sick is that the school is starting these conversations and the school is starting them earlier and earlier and earlier. So now it becomes this sort of power struggle, like who's going to teach the kid about sex first? And like what came first, the chicken or the egg? You know, do the children have to learn from, is it better for children to learn from woke teachers? So now normal parents have to have these conversations about sex with their kids way before they're ready, way before they would ever want to, because they need to undo what's happening in the schools. It's like, what's, what's better? You know, and I, I struggle with this because I talk about what I went through on my show and I, I don't talk about it all the time, but it's like, how do you, at what age do you teach your child that, like nobody should be touching you and things like that. It's like, you don't think that you should have these consent conversations with, with a three year old. But yeah, you, you could. Like, when is it too early? You know?
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Well, I think the general consensus is parents understand that you introduce this as they get to that pre teen teenager. But the problem is when you drop them off at these institutions where their purpose is to break them, the purpose is to turn them into mindless, angry, broken social justice activists, screaming about abortions, screaming about I'm a different gender. You're absolutely right that parenting becomes a very rock and a hard place because they force you as a parent to introduce these things earlier than you should. Our position is if you have your kids in public schools, in government schools, you have to introduce these things earlier than you think. And I'm not saying like, oh, I should have this conversation at 12, so I guess I'll have it at 10. No, you do have to have it at 3 and 4, unfortunately. Because if you don't get there, they will get there first. And when they get there first, it's just one of those truism about a human being. Whatever you hear first is what sticks. And so whether it's about comprehensive sex ed or about anything that happens in the global sense, like, you know, Trump's assassination or Open borders. Or when one of these lunatics get killed by ice because they're trying to impede ice and run them over with a car. All these things, the parents think, oh, these are global things. These are big things. My child's in the third grade. I don't have to worry about it. You absolutely do. Because they're going to lie to your children about it. They will lie to your children about it 100%. So if you don't get there first. If you don't get there first, they will get there first. And this goes back to what I was saying earlier is that because so many parents in Americans still have the wrong premise, they think the premise is about academics. It's not. It's about this. If your child, if there's children out there that actually are doing okay in academics, that's by accident. That isn't because the schools are doing naturally smart.
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Yeah.
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Or their parents are just so involved and they got tutoring, they got all these different things. So if there's a child out there that's reading really great, that's by accident. That's not anything to do with the schools. But if your child is marching and they hate America and they hate that they're white or they, you know, think they're born the wrong body, that's on purpose. And that's what the schools are doing.
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Yeah. And proficiency levels in this country don't even crack 40% when it comes to reading, writing, math. I mean, this means the majority of American school children, they are not proficient in these things. They are not proficient in academics, which they should be learning in school. So we know that they've been taught about protests, sexual content. Tell me what Glisten is and tell me what some of this other. What some of these other education educators are teaching in school.
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So Glisten, they've rebranded themselves to be Gliston. It doesn't matter. But they, they're still called Glisten, probably because they just rebranded not that long ago. So most your skills still probably refer to them as Glsen. G L S E N. This is a one of the top transgender organizations in the country they run. Mostly their influence in schools is after school clubs that most parents don't even know they might hide it behind, like art clubs and all these different things that parents don't understand. But they will have these after school clubs. Of course, schools will need a sponsor, and there's plenty of transgender cultists, educators, school counselors that will happy, happily sponsor these clubs. And what we revealed recently in, in. Again, if you go to courageous habit.org and just type in glisten G, L, I, S, T, E, N or glisten either way, because we refer to them as both ways. What they do is this. They survey your children that go to these after school clubs. Now, the children that go to these after school clubs are already brainwashed. They just go there to be brainwashed even more. So they really drive the transgenderism after school. And these, this, these, these clubs ran by Glsen. So what they do is that they take a survey of these children. Now, of course, the surveys are always going to come back is that they don't feel seen, they don't feel heard, they feel depressed, they don't feel accepted, they're suicidal, all that stuff. And so they'll take this data and then they will bring it to the schools and they'll say, your school is oppressive. Your school needs more representation, more of these books. Then you need to hire more transgender so that they see themselves. So as a parent, all you hear is this. And you hear words like data driven, evidence based research shows. And so you're like, okay, well, how am I going to argue with that? But the research, the evidence is taken from these after school clubs surveyed, surveying. These kids are already brainwashed. And then they take this data and then they justify spending more money and there's the cost. Why? Money's always down the toilet. And they have more cost, more time, and then they drive more of the policies in your schools. But of course, when you drive more of these policies, your schools, you get more kids that come to these clubs. Then they survey them, right? They're doing horribly, of course. And then they rinse and repeat. Now, once you do that enough times, you can now take this data because now you have it in all the schools, right? Not just one school district. You have in all school districts. Then you can take this in a state and go to the state house. And now you can say, we need state policies to. Now, now is not just a school district mandate. Now it's a state mandate. We need to keep secrets from parents. We need bathrooms. We need this. We need more, more mental health. Because look at the data. Look at how horribly these kids are doing. Now, the data. I said, if you go to courageous habit.org you can see how we broke that down. We actually even exposed the two doctors that are behind it. They're of course lunatics. And the data is always kind of unsexy, is nobody is kind of like everyone goes to sleep when you talk about Data because it's not as, like, it's not as boom, right? It's not as on the nose like let's say this book is gay or genderqueer. Everybody can get outraged by that. But the data is how they justify all of it. So while the books obviously is a good entry point for parents to get involved is the data collection. That's the life boring lifeblood that continues to justify it. And it's all, that's why we hit it's all fraudulent. It's 100 fraudulent.
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It's asking woke kids that have already been brainwashed. You know, how did you like this after school thing? Yes. No, you know, they're probably thinking yes, I liked this, I want more of this. I feel safe. This is a safe space for me. And to your point about all of this stuff being so sinister and also so intertwined and then once you get to the state level, talk to me about these, these in house medical clinics that essentially once they've groomed your kid into thinking that maybe I was born in the wrong body right at school, they can get you those drugs and get you into this gender affirming care pipeline.
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Well, you were probably one of the first shows that helped hit the school based health centers when we were and are fighting it in Maine because we use Maine as a, as a pilot to fight the schools back in 2024. And so the school based health centers, they're basically medical centers that are built into your schools and every state has them. Some, some states have more than others. But just exactly what you said, the reason why they can justify these schools is because of this fraudulent data collection. They, they keep collecting datas and it's not just the glisten after school clubs. There's a social, emotional learning surveys, there's the climate surveys, there's, there's a ton of surveys that happen all the time, not just the after school clubs. And so they take this fraudulent data, they manipulate it and they'll say, see, our schools need to help the mental health and the physical help of kids. And so what they do is here's the bait and switch, here's the emotional blackmail. They'll say, don't you want to help single mothers? Single mothers? We have this, we have this clinic in school, it's a dentist.
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They're so busy, just send them to school one and we'll trans them without you, without you knowing. And then when you protest, and then when you protest your kid being socially or physically transitioned, we'll, we'll deem you the Abuser. Right.
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That's how this works.
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Where. That's exactly how the best the school is always right. And then when the parent finds out, oh, this is happening without my knowledge, then the parent is deemed, you know, horrible homophobic, transphobic, whatever. And in some cases I've read in blue states, parents, well meaning parents can lose custody of their kill of their
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children even in red states. In Indiana, that's what happened to some couples, even in red states, because the schools deem them abusive. And the system goes, well, they look like they're abusive. So it's, it's. It. The whole system is against parents when it comes to this. And the way they sell it is that single mother, don't you want to help the single mother so that she can drop the kid off? They don't have to lose time work to go to dentists or sports physicals. They always use dentists and sports physicals. What they don't tell you is that they can give the COVID vaccine, they can give abortion pills, they can refer your child out to abortion services. If they don't give you the transgender drugs in house, they can refer you out. So it depends on if they can give it or not. Here's the thing that we didn't talk about, Haley, when we first started hitting it on your show. So this is. This is a medical center, but they actually call it a community medical center. So what that means is because if you're. If they're keeping the secrets from you, from the parents, then Medicaid, your local state Medicaid has to pay for it. Like. So, for example, in Maine, its Medicaid is called Main Care, but every state has their own name for. Also means that if you're a criminal and you're on state Medicaid, you can
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go to that person.
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You can go to it. If that's your closest clinic other than you want to go into town, you can go to a school medical clinic. Now, the schools will tell you, oh, they have. I swear to God, this is what they tell. This is what they tell parents when we start discovering that they like, wait a minute. That this person with like, a drug or anger problem can use that medical centers, you know what their excuse was? They come through a different door. I swear to God, they tell you, they tell parents, oh, it's okay to have a different entrance, and that's. They won't interact with your daughter.
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And this. I say this on my show all the time, but people who want to do harm to children, they will find a way they will find a way to do it and they will find a way to put themselves in close proximity to their victims. So you're telling me that if you are on state medicare, Medicaid, whatever, you can go to a school health care clinic where there are vulnerable kids who have already been groomed into thinking that they're the different sex, and then criminals can go and use this same medical center and get the same care. You're telling me that there's not a link here. And let me just drop a very damning statistic. This number should be zero, but it is estimated that one in ten American school children will have some sort of educator sexual misconduct encounter. One in ten, it should be zero, but it's one in ten. And I feel like it's getting higher and higher these days because I keep seeing headlines of female teachers, male teachers, they're watching child pornography at school or they're actually abusing children at school. And this is just, you know, these campus medical centers are just another avenue for this, in my opinion.
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Oh, it's huge. This is the final, this is the final takeover of parental rights because they already have your child's mind, they already have your child's emotions, they have your child's values. So the only thing left is their physical. And so one couple of words I wanted your audience to look up in their own state. Whole child, whole W H O L E Whole child. Community schools, trauma informed practices and wraparound services. When you look into your state's education department, you search those terms, you will find them. And what that means is exactly what they mean. What they want your whole child. And these medical centers is the last piece of it. Because once they start doing that, and they're already start doing that, not once they start, they've started doing that, they don't need to tell you all the, all the child has to do is saying, I want this service. But I don't want to tell my parents. I'm scared to tell my parents. That's all they need. That's all they need.
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Wow. So how do parents combat this?
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Well, first of all, before it becomes a part of your budget, you have to fight tooth and nail against this. You have to fight tooth and nail against it and you cannot approve it. You gotta get, you gotta pressure your school board. First of all, get the people in school boards to overturn it, because a lot of those states don't have it yet. But they're product, you know, putting up on votes, they're signing contracts. The other thing that we really want parents to start doing is to push back against this idea of opt in instead of opt out. Because they, they it does. It's not 100, but a lot of these clinics are like, well if you don't want your kids to do it, you got to opt out. But if you're pushing for the, it's kind of a short term solution is to push for opt in. Like if you don't opt in then your child can't use the clinic. But again, that's a good, that's a pretty good stop gap. But mo, the best thing to do is to basically get them to vote against it is to work past their gaslighting and emotional blackmail because that's all that they're going to live in. That emotional blackmail. Right now the school clinics are not yet a part of your state budget, meaning that each school district still needs to vote for it case on a case by case basis. But in the next, I would say give it depending on what state you live in, give it the next two to three to four years. They will collect enough data from these pilot programs, these pilot clinics and they will take it to the state house and they will say look at all the kids that need help, look at all the good that we're doing in these clinics. And they will pass a, a bit a law in a state level and they will have a grant and they will go to any school and say if you want this grant, you can take this grant, but you got to open up a medical center and every school from the most red county rural area to the bluest county because they're money hungry, they will take that grant grant and at that point then it's over. Because then they'll take that grant and then the medical companies that are standing up, these schools will come in, they make millions and then they will take that money and they will open up. And you know what Haley? This, you know we talk about things like the medical centers where they can do the abortion pills and they can do the trans transgender drugs and stuff. But you know what the biggest money maker is is all this mental health drugs, anxiety ADD and all these labels that they give kids. So even if your kids never take an abortion pill, if your kids doesn't ever take a transgender drug, the big money is that they will give them these, these mood changing medicine under the guise of mental health. That's where the big money is. And so that's.
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Yeah, that's been happening for years by the way, because I remember when I was in school, everyone wanted to get on. They, everyone wanted to get diagnosed with ADHD so that they could get Vyvanse or whatever. And all the girls wanted to be on it. And what's the other one called? I don't remember. What's the drug that everyone uses for adhd? Adderall. They wanted. All the girls, all the girls wanted to get on Adderall because it makes you skinny. And all the guys wanted to get on Adderall because they got more time on their tests. Like everyone wanted to get on this thing. Once you have something. Yeah, once you have a drug. And this was, I don't know, like 2000s, early 2000s and, and 2000s. So if that was happening, then I can assure you there are probably GLP1s and other things available at this school clinic, I'm sure even worse things. And of course, the parents don't know anything about it.
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I would imagine back then if you could just walk next door and get it. Because when you're talking about the girls.
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Yeah.
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You still have. You go to pharmacy and get the prescription. So you're trying to get the parents to do it. Imagine if you can just, you guys just line up right next door after second period.
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Sure, absolutely.
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Think about the money, the money that these companies make when you can do that.
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Yeah. And then think of all the damage that these SSRIs and other drugs do long term. When honestly, most of our, our ADHD and our attention deficit problems are because of our phone addictions. So maybe if we didn't raise our kids on iPads, we wouldn't have to, you know, deal with these things in the, in the first place. But I did want to ask you because on the school board question, you know, I asked you, what's the parents best course of action? Like, how does a parent combat this? And obviously we've got to pay attention to these local school board elections and other local elections and run yourself if you can. But I'm wondering, does it help or hurt to run as a outspoken conservative? If you say because you've gotta, you've got to think that most parents in your area are normal and most parents haven't bought, bought into the WOKE ideology. Most parents haven't transed their kids. I would assume.
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Right.
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So if you run as, hey, I'm running for school board, I'm gonna get this health center out of here. I'm gonna get this out of here. I'm gonna do this. Are you gonna get a lot of pushback from the system? Is that gonna work? Are you gonna be able to get in and make changes or is this just going to be like a lost cause?
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It depends on where you live. It depends on where you live. One of the strategies that the Democrats do well is that they come in sounding very vague. I want to support all kids. I think every family deserves a good education, every child, right. So they do that. And then when they get in, they start pushing those policies. Now the problem with conservatives, when they run, they're too honest. They don't actually play that game. They don't play that vague game and then go in and start removing things and which is what they do. So if you live in a place where is super woke, then yeah, you have to take that approach. If you live in a place that's more conservative, you still have to. It depends. Because even conservative areas have these woke white women that have these enormous amount of white guilt and white shame. And they only want candidates who speak that, you know, to talk that talk. The point of it is, is that when you're running as a regular candidate, not even if you're not conservative, if you just like, look, I don't to want, I don't want the trans stuff in here that doesn't make you conservative, just makes you normal. You will get huge pushback from the system because the system demands that you are very, very extreme. That's the system. Now what you're asking me was just the general, the general people that don't know what's going on that just kind of like sort of know maybe there's a problem. You know, the best thing for my advice for the, you know, conservative candidates or just normal candidates is you got to run on the disc dismal scores because everybody can understand that. I would run on the dismal scores and I would run on the waist and show that. How is it that in 2010 our budget was this and in 2025 our budget was this. So in that 10 years, our budget went up this high, students went down, administrator went up. Where's the money going? So if you want to be a candidate that just, it's a little bit hard to, to hit you on, run on the dismal scores and then run on the financial waste. And then when you get in there, then you start hacking all the woke stuff out of it. The other thing I also want to say about the scores is this is what I, I don't really see conservative candidates do this. They'll always talk about the score like, oh, it's, you know, right. We have A only only 40% are reading proficient. They don't actually say that's not even the old standards from 15 years ago. They've actually lowered the standards like twice. So when you see a 40 reading proficiency, that's on the new grading for equity. That's already the lowest. Yeah. If you are grading kids today on the original grading proficiency, let's say in the early 90s, none of them would know how to read because the, because the standards are already lower. So we're not even talking about old standards. And that's what I, I see. A lot of conservatives miss that. They always go, oh, it's only 40. I'm thinking it's not 40%. He has already lowered load twice because of grading for equity.
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Wow. No, that's. It's eye opening. And Alvin, I can always count on you to bring the facts, the receipts and great methods for parents to, to fight back against this stuff. So I want you to plug your website and where people can find out more about you.
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Oh, thank you, Haley. Hey. I never take it for granted coming on the show and talking to you. It's always such a great. You're so sharp.
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I love it.
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I appreciate your, your, your, your heart that you have for kids. So thank you for that.
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First of all, thank you.
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Courageousahabit.org Our catalog is made for you, the everyday parent. We never forget that our audience has school age children and it's a very, very busy time. A lot of times you don't have time to shower. So we understand that our tools are never long. It's to the point. They're beautiful and we always give you a call to action. So something you can read on Sunday, you can do it on Monday. We don't ask a lot of you. We just want to give you the confidence to protect your kids. So courageous. Habit.org Our socials are at couragehabit. That's all our socials. We love to engage with people and listen to your stories and try to help where we can. And we are a nonprofit. So every time you share our tool, every time you share our videos or you share a episode like this with, with Haley or you donate $10 to us, it goes to our team and goes to our small team and allows us to be able to spread these tools more far, far and wide for parents. So thank you.
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Amen to that. And amen to all of you watching and listening. I know that you have parents. I know that you are parents. I know that you are grandparents. I know that you have children that you care about. So Please share this episode with someone that you know who has a child that they love. I know. It's all of us. It's all of us. So this is very eye opening. Alvin, thank you for being here and thank you to the audience. I appreciate everyone. Tell a friend about this show and I'll see you next time.
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One night with Stein. One night with Steiny.
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Shout out Full send now.
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Fact that we've been sitting here for
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like an hour together, I don't know your name. What's your name? Stoney.
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I can't guarantee anything. All I can guarantee is that you're going to be entertained.
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I'm a professional.
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I'm here to interview.
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So the whole interview, you asked me what I like better, BURGER King or McDonald's. All right. And we are going to wrap up on that note.
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Thank you, Steve, so much.
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