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- [00:00]
Hailey
Hello, everyone. Welcome to another edition of Nightly Scroll. I'm so happy that you're here with me live in the chat. And if you're listening later on, that's fine too. Thank you for being here. Make sure that you're subscribed on Rumble Rumble.com Hailey will bring you to the Bongina Report channel. Make sure that you smash that subscribe button. Make sure that if you are listening on Spotify or on Apple Podcasts, you also smash that subscribe button. You ring that bell so that you never miss an episode. Give it five stars. Everything that you can do, do it. All right, thank you. I appreciate it so much. And now I've got a really, really interesting interview and show on deck for you. In October of last year, I came across Niza Powers on TikTok, a biological man identifying as a trans female. But something was different about Niza. He was a competitive athlete, an alpine, freestyle and cross country skier, a tennis player and a golfer who played on the collegiate and professional levels. He was competing against women. Except he had woken up from the lie and vowed to never compete against women ever again. I had spoken to Niza back in, maybe it was October at that time and Niza was still identifying as a trans female. But in recent months, Niza has accepted his male identity and no longer identifies as trans, just as a feminine man. I was totally fascinated by this journey from woke to awake. And he is here to explain his acceptance of biological reality on this episode of Nightly Scroll. Niza, thank you so much for being here with me.
- [02:01]
Niza Powers
Here. I love that you have your own show now and you know, you're, you're doing it for yourself. It's, it's, it's amazing to see.
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Hailey
Yeah. And your story is one that I absolutely needed to get out there because I think the more people who see someone who's had this gender confusion and this dysphoria and come out on the other end without the gender affirming care and without going as far as to, you know, chop off body parts or, or make any of these drastic long term changes. I think it's important for children and for even parents to see that you don't have to go down this road. You can treat it in other ways. You don't need to change your biological reality because you can't. And unfortunately, I feel like you were sold a lie. But I want to start at the beginning. For people who don't know your story, what does it feel like as a child? Or when did you start feeling these, these confused, confusing Dysphoric thoughts.
- [03:04]
Niza Powers
Yeah. I think that gender dysphoria definitely has a conception point. I think that there is a moment where it happens, whether it's something that your parents do or say or introduce you to. For me, it was in high school. I was a very flamboyant guy. I was a cheerleader and a dancer and just an athlete on different levels. And all my friends were girls. I kind of leaned towards the fashion side of expressing myself and makeup. And those were sort of my, my, my timeline that I later recounted to a therapist and they said, maybe you're trapped in the wrong body. So these were, that was definitely a conception point for me is saying your, your hobbies and what you, you know, who you are in life actually ties into your gender identity.
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Hailey
Right. And you can be a man and like fashion. There, there are male fashion designers, Christian Louboutin and Tom Ford and what have you. I mean, you don't have to be trans to find fashion interesting or makeup. I mean, there's the Jeffree stars of the world and Patrick TA's of the world. There are makeup artists and, you know, makeup creators who are male or they're gay. And it's okay. You can have these interests and it doesn't, you know, it doesn't negate your biological sex or it doesn't, you know, it doesn't matter. Right. So I thought it was interesting you said there something about therapy where the idea of being trans was introduced to you in therapy. So when you were in high school and you were. So I don't want to ask really why you were in therapy, but while you were in therapy, was it because you had come out to your parents saying, hey, I am having these feelings where I don't feel comfortable in my own body. How did the therapy start?
- [05:01]
Niza Powers
Yeah, it was 100%. I was in therapy because I told my parents that I didn't feel like a boy anymore. So, you know, the knee jerk reaction is, let's solve this with a professional. But little did they know at that time that professionals were starting to be indoctrinated with this gender ideology that, you know, has now permeated education, the government, and just about anywhere you look. So that's the reason I was there and that's also the reason for, you know, that being introduced and, and taking hold of, and robbing me of 10 years of my life.
- [05:42]
Hailey
Wow. Yeah. 10 years of being sold a lie that was introduced to you by a therapist. The people that your parents brought you to to hopefully not affirm your delusion or your dysphoria, but treat it. But however, therapists now, like you said, are so indoctrinated, they are not treating gender dysphoria. They are affirming it. It's crazy when you think about, whenever you go to a therapist, let's say you go for anxiety disorder or OCD or, or anorexia, bulimia, any, any one of those issues that you deal with, the therapist would never say to you, you're right, let's. Let's keep you in this pattern. Let's keep you in this prison that you're in. That would never happen. So why do you think that this trans issue is different?
- [06:29]
Niza Powers
I don't know. I'm just very grateful. I consider myself the boy who Lived. You know, any Harry Potter fans out there would understand that reference, but it's true. I don't know how I had that willpower for 10 years to. To not go on the path of chopping body parts off, permanent sterilization, but it was definitely something that I was very secretive about because you cannot be part of that community and still, you know, shun their. Their main tenants, which is, you must change your body. You must, you know, alienate your family. You must do this. You know, those are the things I always turned away from. But I still, you know, I would lie to trans friends I had all the time and say, oh, yeah, I've been on hormones for X amount of years because it just made me feel like part of the group. But I still held on to the fact that maybe my body is a. Okay, and I'll. I'll grow out of this. And I did. And thankfully, I can, I can go come back into my manhood without the regret of, you know, having fake breasts or something like that.
- [07:37]
Hailey
Yeah. So, you know, you talked about puberty and being able to come out of this on the other side. You know, puberty is uncomfortable for everyone. Everyone goes through it. I went through it. I didn't like it. There are certain changes in your body. I mean, it's uncomfortable for everyone. No one likes it. It's not easy. It's not fun. Your body's changing and it's uncomfortable. And I think a lot of kids might go to their parents or maybe a therapist and say, you know, I'm going through these changes. I don't like it. That's normal. But the normal response isn't, hey, let's change your biological sex, which obviously we know you can't do. But a lot of people on the left, speaking of puberty will say, well, we have to trans this kid before they reach puberty because it'll be easier. How damaging would that be?
- [08:26]
Niza Powers
Yeah, I mean, again, that child may wake up one day in the future, that kid, you know, might be 35 or 40 years old and, and finally come to a place where they realize that all of those lies that they were fed were just that they were lies. And now where does, where do they go? Where does she go? Where does he go? To find their true self. Are they going to do it in a body that doesn't align with their truth or are they going to do it, you know, like I, like I did with, with a fully intact biological reality that I'm thankful for? So what I'm trying to spread is awareness to a lot of parents and they reach out all the time through my, my social media channels saying what do I do? You know, and what's the best thing your parents did? And the worst things and the best things they did is they were always there. But the worst thing that a parent can do is affirm that disorder and delusion. But there's a fine line between tough love and in alienating your child. And I'm not sure what it is. I think it's different for every family.
- [09:30]
Hailey
Yeah. And you grew up in a conservative family. I find this aspect just interesting because I feel like if you grow up in a conservative family, people don't think that, you know, their kid is going to be trans or however this happens, it's just not the norm. So when you're a, you know, 14 year old boy in high school and you go to your dad, a conservative man, and you say, hey, I don't wanna be a boy anymore. I mean, what does that conversation look like?
- [09:57]
Niza Powers
Boy, you better straighten up. You know, like it's a, you know, there is a, definitely a shock factor. I mean, it was first kind of brought to my family that I was a gay, a gay boy, like, you know, that was kind of understood as, hey, you know, he's probably going to grow up and, and be with a man. So that was something, you know, something shocking to get over. Just leaving middle school and high school and thinking that, you know, your son is not going to be in a straight relationship, but then adding this layer on top of it, I mean, it's, it's a, a tough pill to swallow for, for a conservative father, you know, just, I, I don't know, you know, was it my fault? Is it the way I raised them? You know, and if my dad ever sees this Which I'll probably give to him. It. It definitely wasn't, like, they're, like I said, are very distinct inception points of this disorder. And I happen to reflect and find mine, you know, by remembering. And it was the therapy sessions that I was in for not feeling like I was fitting in in high school. Right. Because I was such a feminine guy. But, you know, that inception point could be, you know, a trans identified teacher that's pushing that topic down a kid's throat, you know, who knows? Yeah. What, what it is, it could be a Disney movie these days, you know, like, I don't know what it is for every. Everybody, but it is not organic. It definitely comes from a moment in somebody's life.
- [11:31]
Hailey
Yeah, it's. It's totally a social contagion and it's getting worse now. So I feel like your story is more important now than ever. But, you know, you're talking about your dad. And sports is something that bonded you and still bonds you and your dad. You're an athlete, a former collegiate athlete, a professional athlete. I mean, you are really, really athletic. And, you know, you bonded with your dad over golf, as did I. I mean, this is, you know, you're obviously very athletic and this is something that's important to your life. And I mean, there's so much that we can get into. I want to start first by playing video 1. Guys, this is democrat, so state senator Lindsey Williams from Pennsylvania. She thinks that trans athletes. This is just. It's a myth. It's. It's a nothing burger and it would have no impact on her. So listen to this. Female bodies are just as strong, as fast and capable as male bodies. For what reason, other than political gain are we spending time and taxpayer dollars on a completely made up issue? Participating in sports gave me the confidence, time management skills, and ability to work collaboratively. Absolutely nothing. Nothing about having a trans teammate or competitor would have taken those things away from me.
- [12:55]
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- [13:55]
Hailey
And that might be true. Having a trans teammate or competitor would not have taken away the joy that that sports brought her. However, having a man in the female locker room or changing in front of him or losing out on scholarships and trophies or whatever else because of that trans competitor, that would have an impact, wouldn't you say?
- [14:20]
Niza Powers
Yeah, first of all, she doesn't look like somebody that maybe competed at the highest level. She's not a Riley Gaines for sure here. I think that maybe she was in a D3 toward, you know, sort of situation. So when you are competing at a high level, things are different. I mean, look at the San Jose State volleyball player. There are serious injuries, brain injuries that can occur, broken noses, because you're not playing on an equal playing field. Yeah, I don't think she experienced what is actually going on.
- [14:49]
Hailey
Right. And they love to say that it's not happening. So there were a few funny comments on that video. Someone Burt Macklin, FBI wrote, right. My wife who goes to the gym every day, can max bench 135. I took a year off to deal with an Ms. Diagnosis, went back and repped out 225. We are not the same. Stop pretending like we are being able to bench 135 as a woman that is an athlete. I mean, you have to be really, really strong. I go to the gym like six days a week. I cannot do that, you know, and I've been going to the gym my whole life and I've been an athlete my whole life. So that's a woman who's competing on a high level. Right. Who cannot compete with a man. You know, and someone else on that post, they wrote or they commented, you know, go join the NFL and see what happens. And someone else said, this is why I left the Democrat Party. I mean, this is a red pill issue for a lot of people. And I think it had a massive impact on this last election. Do you agree?
- [15:52]
Niza Powers
Absolutely. And I feel like we're going to see a lot of more stories that are similar to mine because the current administration is definitely handing a tough love approach to this identity disorder. And I think it contributed to me Wanting to wake up and, and hearing from, you know, the highest, the highest position in the land saying there are only two biological sexes and they're assigned at birth. And you know, that that goes against everything I was fed for 10 years. Like, oh, no, you're, you know, you're a woman. You're, you're a trans woman. And you know, now hearing that from, from a leader, it holds, it holds something and it makes you question. So I think that the administration is doing a great job of trying to bring people back to reality. And, you know, I, I think it contributed to my story 100%.
- [16:43]
Hailey
Yeah. And back to the sports issue, because you really are like the perfect guest to talk about this because you were fed this trans lie. You were convinced that you were a trans woman, you were competing against women in these sports. So you were, you played collegiate golf. And I mean, golf is one of those sports where, I mean, it's very strategic, but of course, a man can normally drive further than a woman. And certainly you have different, different teas on the tee box that you can hit off of. So, yeah. What was your wake up moment where you were like, I'm, I have a massive advantage against these girls?
- [17:28]
Niza Powers
Yeah. I think when I knew that I was playing at like a 60% capacity, I mean, I would stand on the tee box and not want to, to sound off any alarms, Right. Like, I knew my teammates would know something was up if I just crushed it. 320 and, you know, 50 yards past them. So I would hit with the three wood often off the tee, not even a driver, and still needing to lay off on that, to kind of be in that general area. So, yeah, I mean, it, it wakes you up when you, when you are fed those lies that you're equal. And then you see it firsthand for yourself. Like, you know, I might be the same height and weight as some of these girls, but in no means are we equal. Like, if I was 59150 and my equal female competitor is 59150, my strength advantages are very clear. When you're playing at the same high level.
- [18:27]
Hailey
Totally. And you have these governing bodies in the world of sports, the NCAA on the collegiate level, you have the IOC on, on the global level with the International Olympic Committee. And they say that, you know, if you transition after a certain age or if you have a certain testosterone level, that's enough to level the playing field. But when you were in your transition, did you experience any difference in ability at all?
- [18:56]
Niza Powers
None. Absolutely none. And I think that I I said this to you before, if you want a change to occur, like, you can manifest that in your head. Like if believe you're weaker, yeah, you're, you're probably going to be weaker. So, you know, and again, your career of sitting on a couch versus somebody that's a professional athlete is never gonna match up. So I think a lot of these trans identified men are believing that they're weaker because they're being fed those, those lies. So when they go and they try an event either where the, they shock the world and they're definitely not, or they've, you know, they're manifesting whatever lie they're being told and maybe they do appear on the same playing field.
- [19:42]
Hailey
So, you know, you're, you're on the tee box, you're clubbing down, you're trying to not get caught, really, you don't want to show up and, you know, blow everyone out of the water. So what was the moment where you had the change of heart where you said, I can't compete against women anymore?
- [20:00]
Niza Powers
I think when I realized I was doing it for more camaraderie than a sport and, and realizing that I knew I could beat everyone on the field and it just wouldn't be right. Like I've, I don't see how it sits well with some of these men that, you know, blow these women out of the water. Like on track meets. I think I saw recently, like, you know, what kind of person are you where you blow the entire field out of the, and you have no second thought, like you have no remorse, you have no. Oh, I'm not, you know, I feel like as athletes we all hold some bit of integrity with us. Right. Like, you know, you're not supposed to take steroids, you know, that you, you know, you're not supposed to hit below.
- [20:46]
Hailey
The belt, like not supposed to cheat.
- [20:49]
Niza Powers
Yeah. So where does this come from? I mean, you know, you're, you're competing against somebody that is dealing with a very strong identity disorder. And I think that's what we need to realize is that, you know, these, these people are being overwhelmed by this gender dysphoria and it's taken a hold on every aspect of their life.
- [21:07]
Hailey
Yeah, they probably don't even like, feel guilt because they're so affirmed in their delusion. They have, you know, their therapists, their, the school, the ncaa, all their coaches, everyone's afraid to say what they really want to say. So they're just affirming it, right? Like, yeah, you can go play with the girls. Yeah, beat the beep beat the hell out of them. You know, like no one's. So I think because they are so delusional, and I hate to say that word because I really do think it's a sickness, like it's a mental illness. But, you know, I don't think that they, I don't think that it's really clicking with them.
- [21:45]
Niza Powers
No, it's not. And like, you know, it is a mental illness. And that's why I want to, you know, really tell people that it's not a lifelong condition. Like, if you want, if you want the truth and you want healing, it will come to you, but you'll, you'll have to work at it. I mean, if you've been programmed for X amount of years, you know, it's going to take some time to heal. But you can heal. I mean, you know, you can heal from bouts of depression, you can heal from bouts of anxiety. You can also heal from a life filled with dysphoria. But the only way to do it is if you welcome truth in. But if you continue to, you know, ingest the same sort of media that's telling you that you're a woman and you should be competing against women in sports, of course you're never going to heal. You have to, you got to look for the truth if you want it.
- [22:33]
Hailey
So when you decided I'm not gonna compete against women anymore, who did you go to? Your coaches, what did they say?
- [22:41]
Niza Powers
They said, well, yeah, you're definitely going to keep competing. You're, you're a woman. At that time, I was a trans identified man, you know, I was saying that I was a trans woman. They said no, you know, because they've been fed the same sort of lies too, that trans women are women. I think we're, we're starting to go down the path where people realize at least that trans women are not women, they're trans women. You know, but we will finally get to the point where we realize that trans women are, you know, trans identified men and people who are dealing with that, that sickness of gender dysphoria, I think we're a long way away from it. But, but no, when I told them that, they said, of course you're going to compete with the women. You're a woman. Trans women are women. You know, everyone wears these shirts around campus or whatever. Like that's, that's all I'm supposed to believe, right?
- [23:32]
Hailey
Wow. You know, a lot of people, they'll say that, well, the solution to all of this is just have a Trans league. Just have a trans league, just have all the trans players compete against each other. And that doesn't work because there aren't enough trans athletes to compete against each other. I mean, especially in volleyball, it's like, you know, how many people do you need on both sides of the net or soccer or what have you? I mean, you can't have three on two or whatever. I mean, they're just simply. It, it's, it's a, like a pipe dream kind of solution. But even in a perfect world, if you had a trans league, wouldn't the trans females blow the trans males out of the water?
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Niza Powers
Of course. And I think that, you know, I think the, it should be labeled an open league. You know, not a trans league, but just a league where somebody doesn't want to play against women because they feel like a man or vice versa. But of course a biological male will always beat a biological female in strength and endurance based sports. You know, I mean, if it just, it's, I think most people are awake to this now, but it really is bizarre that, you know, governors like the governor of Maine wants to hold on to this lasting bit of, I don't know, social contagion, like we said, and say no, you know, trans women are women. Like, you know, I don't, I don't. Right.
- [24:57]
Hailey
And facing, and facing funding cuts from President Trump and his administration. I mean, is it worth it to hold on to the lie?
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Niza Powers
I don't, I've never been a governor of a state before, but I feel like I would want, maybe one day my schools, I would want funding, you know, you know, rather than to watch men blow out women in sports. But that's just me.
- [25:20]
Hailey
Yeah, I mean, anyone with, you know, a functioning brain would, would probably want the same thing, especially if you're in charge of schools and sports and extracurricular activities. I mean, it would behoove her to, you know, do what the Trump administration is asking of her or else she's not going to have the funds to do much of anything in her state. They won't have much to show for it. But you know, you talked about this open, you know, what do you call it? Like an open league or an open. You know, you're not competing in the women's competition or the men's. It's just this like open, you know, if you want to, you, you can. And I think, you know, I want to, I want to share. Redux reported on this. There is a case recently, a male student has just won gold in the girls Varsity high jump at a Portland Interscalactic League meet in Oregon. So this is also a trans athlete who goes by the name Leah now. So we all know the story of leah Thomas, the UPenn swimmer. Now this is Leah Rose and she goes to, or he goes to Ida B. Wells High School. And he cleared the high jump 4 inches higher than his female opponents. And I. You can. Yeah. So they apparently this high school and the Portland Interscholastic League, they allowed him to compete at a different time than the female competitors. So he wasn't, you know, jumping with the females, but he still came out on top. They listed him as the winner. So it's like, well, who cares? I mean, if he's not competing with the women, you know, physically, but you're still going to take his score and slap it at the top of the leaderboard? I mean, what does that do?
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Niza Powers
Yeah, you know what I think is great is that this administration has really empowered female athletes to be able to stand up for themselves. Oh, I love.
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Hailey
Yeah. This in the gray sweatshirt, that's Leah Rose.
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Niza Powers
Yeah, Leah's of a feather block together, I guess. But you know, I have seen like even disc golfers, like females standing up and saying, look, I'm not playing against that. Yeah, the fencer the other week. You know, I mean, I think that again, this tough love administration on biological reality is saying, look, if you are a woman and you are uncomfortable and you recognize unfairness, you have that, that ability to stand up for yourself. And I feel like the last four years that wasn't available to them because they would be kicked out of school or sued or something, you know, like now there is a lot of reality coming back. And while it might not be the, the main opinion of, of higher education, it's starting to become acceptable at least for you to stand up for your safety and well being.
- [28:14]
Hailey
Yeah, I mean, what we're seeing, I believe is the erasure of women's sports. If we keep allowing men to compete on the same playing field as women. I mean, there's. Women have no shot. And even recently I had reported this on my show, I think it was this week, or maybe it was last week, but in the UK there was some kind of billiards competition and in the women's competition there are two dudes facing off for the championship. And it's like, how is no one seeing this and calling out the lunacy? I mean, and I'm not saying people, because I mean, you and I and all the people in the live chat right now I mean, we know that this is crazy, and most people in the world think that it's crazy, but why aren't people in these governing bodies not seeing, like, oh, well, we have two trans individuals competing for the trans.
- [29:09]
Niza Powers
Are they allowed? Are they allowed to see it? Like, I feel like, you know, yeah, maybe they're not. And say it. They're gonna lose their job. You'll lose your cushy IOC commissioner job or whatever it is. But imagine, like, you know, you didn't grow up a girl playing pool, but, like, imagine that was your thing. And you see the, your, you know, the super bowl of pool or whatever, and you're watching two guys play against each other. Does that make you want to, you know, hone in on your craft anymore?
- [29:38]
Hailey
Hell, no. I would, I would just give up. I mean, and the sad thing is we're seeing a lot of women standing up for themselves. And by standing up for themselves, they're. They're taking a knee or they're not competing against the men. And how sad is it that in order to take a stand and in order to protest this, they are losing out on playing the sport or participating in the activity that brings them joy, and then the men still get to do it. It's like, I'm proud of them on one hand because they're standing up for themselves, but it's like, it almost seems like we're letting the men win.
- [30:14]
Niza Powers
Yeah. I mean, that's what we've done for generations. Right. So keep on doing it.
- [30:20]
Hailey
Yeah. Well, you've had quite the wake up in the last few months where you were a trans identifying female. You are now extremely comfortable with the fact that you're a man who just looks different and wants to do your hair certain ways. And, you know, you're very public about this on social media. So have you gotten hate since making this change? Do you get hate from fellow trans people? Do you get hate from conservatives? Like, who is giving you the most flack for this?
- [30:52]
Niza Powers
For sure, you know, I get hate from the trans community or the, you know, the community parading the mental illness that is gender dysphoria. They don't want to see. Like, imagine if there was a group of depressed individuals in America and they hated somebody who finally got past depression and had been happy and life again. That's what's going on here is I get these messages saying, you know, do you realize the damage you're doing to your community? And first of all, it never was and it never will be my community. But, like, aren't you happy for me that I've realized who I am and I've escaped the identity disorder that was, you know, this trans. This fake identity. Like, aren't you happy for me in the slightest? But no, you know, because they're still living this lie, and there are so many people that they are. You know, they're up to their chest and in this fake identity, and they'll go to war for it. I mean, these people send you messages that you think, like, you're. You're a lot further gone than just thinking that you're a woman. You know, you're. You're actually very disturbed in the head. And. And I don't know what else somebody suffers with besides identity disorder, like gender dysphoria, but it seems like there are other disorders that tag along with it.
- [32:16]
Hailey
Yeah, and I feel like it's scary because a lot of the leftists are pretty violent also. And, I mean, I get hate messages and death threats and whatever, so I can only imagine the kinds of messages that you're getting. It's. It's really. The Internet's a really scary place, but.
- [32:34]
Niza Powers
It'S also a place where I can tell my truth. And moms are able to go back to their sons who might be suffering with the same thing and be like, look at him. You can be a gay guy. You can be a guy who wants long hair and likes fashion and still live your truth. And. And, you know, I do get messages from mom saying, thank you. Like, I'm able to share your story with my son. And it's helping.
- [32:56]
Hailey
You know, in. I think it was in 2020, the NIH did a study that said that there's. It's almost 2 to 1. There are more male to female transitions than female to male. And I want your take on this if you feel comfortable answering it, but it seems to me like these are a lot of gay men that maybe they don't want to be gay. And they think that if they transition to a biological female or as close as they can get to it, then they can date men and they won't be gay anymore. Is there any truth to that, do you think?
- [33:39]
Niza Powers
I think there is a little bit of truth to that. You know, Charlie Kirk does a really good job of describing the. The trans women in this world. Like, I feel like 90 of them that come out in their 20s or 30s or later, it is a very fetishized thing where this is how they get off, but then that small percentage of them that it is on set early on in life like it was for me. Could be a number of reasons. It could be a weak father figure. It could be. Which wasn't the case for me, but what was the case was, of course, I was uncomfortable being a gay guy in high school. I had never been with a man and in high school. But I was scared because everybody is making fun of me, you know, using, you know, derogatory language or whatever, and I'm like, maybe this, this is the bad thing, but I'm one of the girls with my friend group. Maybe this is the easy way out. And again, that's not what my thought process was. But that's very. That. That could very well be what's happening, you know, subconsciously, but behind the scenes.
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Hailey
Yeah. Well, I'm very happy for you that you've.
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Niza Powers
Thank you.
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Hailey
Kind of seen the light in a way. And it's not even that you've seen the light. You've just seen your own biological reality and you're comfortable with it. And I think that's really what it is. It's just being comfortable in your own skin and what a beautiful thing that is. So I'm extremely happy for you. I hope you don't have anywhere to go because I want to get your take on some of the headlines that have come out recently. So thank you for sharing your story, but we're going to get into the nitty gritty of what's going on here. Hopefully you can help me make sense of it. So now there's a school that is putting menstrual products in the men's bathroom. This is in Baltimore. They are proposing a bill so that tampons and pads will be available in the men's restroom. You know, the bathroom debate, it heats up every once in a while. I feel like it. It's like the talk of the town. And then people kind of forget about it and then it's reinvigorated, I think. Who's the congressman who is trans identifying? I think they go by Sarah McLaughlin or something like that. I'm just forgetting it. Yeah, I'm just forgetting the name off the top of my head. But, you know, certain situations like that where it pops up and, you know, he wants to use the women's restroom and Congresswoman Nancy Mace is saying no. So the bathroom debate heats up all the time. What's your take on it?
- [36:09]
Niza Powers
Yeah, I mean, I. I think that men should use the men's bathrooms and I think women should use women's bathrooms. But then everybody fights back and saying, well, trans men that have Full beards. Do you want them in the women's bathroom? No, I, I don't. I, I think that they're. First of all, trans men are not the problem here. Like, I feel like they're gonna comfortably use a gender neutral bathroom or use a men's room without any sort of black. Like.
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Hailey
Yeah, it's the men pushing their way. They like feel entitled. I feel like the, the trans women more. Yeah, they're more aggressive about it.
- [36:50]
Niza Powers
Wait, because they're men? Yeah, like I, I would. I mean that' no, there's no denying that. And I think that those 90 of the trans identified men that, you know, this is a fetish for them. This is like a big milestone in your life. Like, right, I get to pee next to a woman. Oh my gosh. Like, this is really kind of hot and heavy. Like, oh my gosh. You know, So I think, I think that those people need to be stopped on different levels, obviously, but especially in an intimate situation like a public bathroom. Yeah, no, you're not, you're not welcome there because the men's room is for men. Yeah, it's, that's, that's my take.
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Hailey
Yeah, totally. I think, you know, it's. I think the only way to get a solution, an actual solution, is to pass a bill that says any new build, you have to have single stall bathrooms with a sink and like a wash area either in the stall or maybe it's a communal wash area. I personally don't care if I have to wash my hands next to a man. I don't care. But I don't want to be doing my business next to one. But you know what you said earlier about there are certain people who take their transition really seriously and they look like a woman if they're a man or they look like a man if they're a girl and that, you know, I think there is something to that. Like what you present as socially can make people feel comfortable or uncomfortable, whether it's your biological sex or not. I've seen videos on TikTok and on Instagram of trans. Trans men. Sorry. I'm like, this all gets like confused in my head. I'm like, what ways ago trans men who really do look like men, if I saw them in the stall next to me, I would say, there is a man next to me. It would make me feel uncomfortable. Even though they might have a vagina. I have no idea what's going on downstairs. But there is something to that. Like what is socially acceptable. And to your point, I think there are a lot of trans women who they transition for, like, the social accolades and like, the clout that they get for being trans. I think being trans gives you some kind of a social currency. If you're seeking a community that you haven't found or you're seeking attention maybe. And there, I mean, I've showed pictures on this show of men in, like, horrible makeup, and it's like you're a dude in a dress. Like, you're not even trying, you know, So I don't know. What is your take on that?
- [39:33]
Niza Powers
Yeah, I think the social currency is. Is 1, 100% relatable. I see it like, there's a lot of very intellectual young adults that feel like they need to be trans in order to be the best leftist possible and to get into the Ivy League schools. You don't need to. You can be a boy, I promise you, and your. Hopefully your test scores and everything will allow you to get into the school of your choice. You don't need to identify as, you know, rain Water Wilson or whatever.
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Hailey
Yeah, these are pronouns. Or whatever.
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Niza Powers
You don't, you don't need that. But it's, it's true. Like, I feel like in order to be a good leftist, you, you better not be a, A white dude or a white girl. You. You better, you know, you better have something else tied to you. So it's, it is, it's sad that I feel like young adults feel like they need to have that social, you know, diversity in order to fit in with their friend group.
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Hailey
Right. Well, a new poll came out. This is. The Daily Wire did this poll. It was by Signal, and a Daily Wire exclusive by Signal that found that 66% of Americans don't want their tax dollars to go towards gender transition procedures, whether that's surgeries, cross sex hormones, puberty blockers, et cetera. I agree with that. I, I don't want to pay for someone's boob job. No one would. I wouldn't expect the American taxpayer to pay for mine if I decided to get one. That's technically gender affirming care. Right. If I'm a woman and I believe that a boob job would make me more of a woman, but 43% of Kamala Harris voters actually agreed that they don't want federal taxpayer dollars to go to this.
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Niza Powers
Well, are they paying taxes anyways? The Kamala Harris supporters, they love tax. That's good to know that. There are some that, you know, I don't know if they were smart enough to realize what they were voting for. But let's just say that there are some people that hold on to the, to the bit of reality that you shouldn't pay for, you know, affirming someone's mental disorder. I mean, that's what it is here. Like, I can't imagine, like somebody with anorexia or bulimia. Like, we're paying, you know, we're paying for them to, to dive further because you're not paying for, like, I can understand, like, you know, if there is a, if you are on social welfare and you're paying for, you know, therapies and things to, to cure the brain of this disorder, like, okay, that's just part of that social welfare, but you're paying to go further into this.
- [42:12]
Hailey
Yeah, totally. And this kind of made me think of the whole transgender in the military debate because, you know, Trump has said, and this says, been, you know, wildly controversial on the left, that, you know, transgender people were signing up for the military to get free gender affirming care and surgeries. And it's like, you should not be in the military if you're, you know, you need a boob job to make yourself feel better. I mean, we want the best of the best in the military. And I think we forget that serving in the military is a privilege. There are, you know, if you're, if you have diabetes or you have, I don't know, anxiety or you have all these things, if one of your legs is, you know, longer than the other one, I mean, you can have issues that prevent you from being in the military. I mean, not everyone gets to do that. And Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth recently had just eliminated this sex based. I mean, he's making it merit based where if you want a combat role in the military, the women have to be on the same physical level as the men. Which is interesting because as we know, based on this entire conversation, women and men are not the same physically. And men have a huge advantage. So this would essentially eliminate a lot of women from combat roles. But again, serving in the military is a privilege. It's not a right.
- [43:47]
Niza Powers
Yeah, you know, I feel like, you know, the FBI and all of those, all of those agencies have the physical requirements of the 20 pull ups or, you know, you have to run an eight minute mile and things like that. If you're in a combat role, you know, that's taking it to the next level. So if you're a woman who that is your dream to do that, like, kudos to you. But you got to know going into that that you need to Be able to, you know, do 100 push ups or whatever the guys are doing. I think that's fair. I mean, yeah, I, there's a lot of women that I would have no issue with support, you know, with defending me, but I want to make sure that you're strong enough to do it.
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Hailey
Yeah. Well, over on cnn, they did a town hall with Senator Bernie Sanders and Anderson Cooper. He got his foot put in his mouth, this one. He called this person by the wrong pronouns. Take a listen to this all. We're back with Senator Bernie Sanders. I want to introduce Grace Thomas. She's a local civil rights attorney. She's a Democrat. Grace.
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Niza Powers
They, them pronouns, actually. Thank you.
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Hailey
Oh.
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Niza Powers
Evening, Senator Sanders.
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Hailey
Polling and turnout data indicate that are.
- [44:56]
Niza Powers
Turning away from the Democratic Party.
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Hailey
Yeah. And it's, it's worth noting that the question that she asked Senator Sanders was about men turning away from the Democrat Party. And I, my question to you is, do you think Anderson Cooper peed his pants or pooped his pants in that moment?
- [45:16]
Niza Powers
Maybe a little bit of both. I don't think, you know, Bernie kind of had the look of Biden in 2018 or so. Like he had that kind of like early onset dementia. And so I think someone should take a closer look at him.
- [45:31]
Hailey
Yeah, definitely. And the last thing I have for you that I want you to react to this is we're, we're taking a turn here from politics to Hollyweird. Yeah. There's the look of just utter confusion on his face. He's like, what did she just say? I have to call them. Them. They. What's happening? This is, we're moving to Holly Weird now. So Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt, they had a daughter, Shiloh, and Shiloh Jolie Pitt, when she was younger was, she wanted to go by John. And they let her express herself wearing suits and things like this in, in media appearances and on the red carpet. And now Shiloh Jolie Pitt is back to being a girl. So I do have to give Angelina Jolie credit for not medically castrating her daughter because it seems like same as you, Shiloh has just become more comfortable. Maybe it was a puberty thing and she's found herself.
- [46:35]
Niza Powers
I love that. And you know, that's, that's what I tell parents too. That reach out to me is like, you know, my, my parents didn't encourage me to wear girls clothes or women's clothes if I wanted to. But it's like, you know, they didn't say no. They, they didn't say no. You can't get your ears pierced or no, you can't wear makeup. So I think that's important. Like, let your kid express themselves, but really, you know, but definitely tell them you're not, you know, expressing yourself because you're affirming a gender identity that you're not. You're just maybe becoming more of yourself. And I think that's important for. For kids to know as well as parents. Like, kids, you know, can do a lot of different things with their. With their expressions, but it doesn't make them a different gender. Just, you know, that's just what you do as a kid. You play around with who. What you want to look like.
- [47:25]
Hailey
Yeah, totally. I mean, growing up, I had next door neighbors that I played with all the time. And the. The kid my age was a boy, and he had an older sister and a younger sister. And like, anytime we all played together, we were painting his nails and putting makeup on him. He was like our gay.
- [47:43]
Niza Powers
Where is he now?
- [47:44]
Hailey
Well, he's still a guy. So, you know, to your point, it's okay to joke around or. Or, you know, be comfortable in your sexuality and in your biological reality and just mess around. So, Niza, thank you so much for being here. Thank you for telling your story. Keep up the good fight. And where can people find you?
- [48:04]
Niza Powers
So TikTok is Dream Roulette, and then Instagram X and YouTube is my name spelled out Niza Powers. And again, it was great to have you interview me again. Haley, did you ever have a goth phase or a scene phase growing up?
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Hailey
No, I had a very, very. I had a very, very preppy phase.
- [48:24]
Niza Powers
Okay. Okay.
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Hailey
Well, you have a. You have a podcast now, right? You just started?
- [48:29]
Niza Powers
No, no podcast. But there is a series on YouTube. I'm doing YouTube called Dear Niza, which is where parents are writing into me and I'm answering my questions, you know, their questions with my story.
- [48:42]
Hailey
Okay, great. Well, if you are a parent out there or you know, a parent who is struggling, their child is. They have gender dysphoria, reach out to Niza. Find her on YouTube. She will. She will assist in any way that. That he can. So thank you, Niza, so much for. For being here and telling your story.
- [49:00]
Niza Powers
Awesome. Talk soon. Thanks, Hayley.
- [49:02]
Hailey
Of course. Very interesting conversation. I think hearing his perspective is really, really. It's something that conservatives don't often do, which is reach out to these people and find out why they are the way that they are and how we can help and how we can save other children from this delusion that they're being fed by the left. So very important work. And now we are getting to scrolling time foreign. Now, the SAVE act passed in the House today. The SAVE act would require US Citizens to show voter id, to show proof of citizenship when they vote in person. Imagine that. Now, the leftists, you know, the senator, Chuck Schumer, he's saying this, this won't pass in the Senate. We can't let this happen. It's not gonna happen. But he said that about Trump's spending bill and that got passed as well. So hopefully when the SAVE act goes to the Senate, the Senate will ram this through and Trump will just sign it away. But earlier today, the Democrats were freaking out about it. This is Congresswoman Sarah Jacobs. She is 36 years old from California. Of course, listen to this.
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Sarah Jacobs
Did you change your last name when you got married? Let me tell you how Republicans are trying to take away your right to vote. Today, Republicans are putting a bill on the floor called the SAVE act that would require you to prove your citizenship in order to vote or change your address to vote. Now, you may think, well, that makes sense. We only want citizens to vote. True, it is already illegal for non citizens to vote in federal elections. Let me repeat, it is already illegal for non citizens to vote in federal elections.
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Hailey
But they do.
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Sarah Jacobs
What this bill would do is say that you need to prove your citizenship.
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Hailey
How do you do that?
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Sarah Jacobs
A birth certificate, a passport, and you have to go in person to do so, though. So what does that mean? It means if you're a person who changed your name because you got married, your birth certificate is not going to match what your driver's license says now. And they're going to think you're not eligible to vote.
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Hailey
So get it changed.
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Sarah Jacobs
If you are a military service member serving overseas and you are not in the same place as your birth certificate, and you're not able to go in person to change your registration, you wouldn't.
- [51:40]
Hailey
Be able to vote.
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Sarah Jacobs
If you are just like me and would have to call your mom to find your birth certificate, you might not.
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Hailey
Be eligible to vote.
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Sarah Jacobs
And if you don't have $170 laying around to get a passport, you might not be eligible to vote. This could impact almost 150 million Americans. That's almost as many as the amount of people who voted in last year's election. So the SAVE act is not solving a problem, it's creating one. And that's why I'll be voting no.
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Hailey
There are so many things wrong with what she said. First of all, it is not Taking away or infringing on anyone's right to vote. Even if you get married and you decide to change your last name, you go and you get the documents changed, you get a new driver's license, or you can get a new passport. And I reported on this last week. I asked my friends who are married. It takes about a week to get a new license. It takes a little bit longer to get the passport. So if you get married in October or September, in, you know, in the months leading up to the election, don't change your name, keep your name. And then you have the whole rest of the next year to change your documents and get everything done for the next election. Be smart about it. We're asking people to be smart. Assume that they're not as dumb as this woman in Congress who says she's 36 years old and she still needs to call her mom to figure out where her birth certificate is. Did anyone else pick up on that? My mom gave me my birth certificate probably when I went to college and said, this is yours now. And I've managed to keep it. And I know where it is. Okay. It's really not that hard. And this is. She was elected into Congress to represent us. So then she was talking about the military members not being able to vote because their birth certificate would not be where they were serving. Like, no kidding. No one in the military is serving in their hometown, living in their parents bedroom. I mean, what do you mean? They, if they're serving abroad, they get absentee ballots. I mean, there's the ways to do this. I just, it's amazing to me the hoops that they will jump through in order to essentially allow non citizens to vote because she says it's already illegal for non citizens to vote. Yeah, we know, but it's happening. But it's happening. So how do we stop it? Well, we make people show their ID and that'll stop it. But they don't want that. So we all know. But we all know what they want. We all know what they're thinking. But thankfully, yeah, this is her. Sarah Jacobs, 36 years old. Meet Sarah. It should just write, I still need to call my mom to find my birth certificate and you voted for me. Dumb idiot. Seriously. But Commiformia, that's commifornia for you. Anyway, a man in a Make America. Oh, wait, no. The first video that I have for you is a woman in a Make America gay hat. But the man who pulled up next to her in the car triggered her. So watch this. I like your Mega hat.
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Sponsor
Yeah, Trump. Oh, I know Trump fan. Never know Trump.
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Niza Powers
No, it says, make America gay again.
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Sponsor
Great again, gay. I know, but we love Trump, right?
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Hailey
You're an effing moron. That's what she says. She's driving away in her gay hat. She's like, it says gay. Like he can read it. He's trolling you. Anyway, a man in a maga hat went to a cybertruck. Oh, no. Oh, my gosh. I'm getting confused here. The first one is a man in a maga hat at a takedown. Elon Musk, protest. Watch this. He's really triggering the libs. He's just got this big smile on his face the entire time. Someone said, get out of the street. Jack off. Okay, this next one was a takedown. Elon Musk, protest again. Except this couple showed up in their cybertruck. Here's what they were met with. It says, we went to a Tesla takedown in Boca Raton in a cyber truck.
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Niza Powers
Hey, guys, this is a turning way.
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Hailey
Middle fingers in the air. Middle fingers in the air. The cyber truck driving by all their signs. Get the hell out of here. He says, not intelligent. She says, not intelligent. Because they're driving a cyber truck. I mean, these people are crazy. They end up driving by again. There's a guy deport muskrat with a Ukraine flag. They drive by again. And this woman, she. She stuck her fat. You know what in their face. She's wearing these ugly mom jeans, and she's got her. She got her middle finger up on her butt cheeks. It's just like. You guys are really, really something else. Not classy, if you ask me. Now, I'm actually. I'm going to save the last video for tomorrow because we've hit an hour and I'll save it. It's very, very cute. This is the teaser. I've got a very cute baby video for tomorrow. So if you don't like baby videos, here's your warning. Anyway, thank you so much for being here. Thank you. I hope you enjoyed the interview. Make sure that you're subscribed on Bongino Report. Make sure you're subscribed on whatever your favorite podcast platform is. In the meantime, you can follow me at Halycarania on social media, and I'll see you right back here tomorrow.