
In this episode of Scrolling with Hayley: The FBI obtains Nest camera footage from Nancy Guthrie’s house the night she went missing. Who is the masked suspect? Then, Pizzagate resurfaces amid the latest Epstein file dump & more.
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Hello and welcome to Scrolling with Haley. I am Haley Carania. If you're watching right now on Rumble, welcome all my homies in the chat. I try to hop in before the show starts sometimes and I did get in there today. I said hello to all my homies. Sometimes if I have enough time, I like to chit chat with everyone. Didn't have that much time today, but I don't know, it's only Wednesday. Maybe, maybe tomorrow I'll get her here even earlier and I'll get to chat with all of you and that'll be fun. So if you want to do that, you have to do it on Rumble. Rumble.com Haley brings you to the Bongino Report channel. That is where you can watch this show in full. So make sure that you are subscribed and make sure that you tell a friend. And if you can't catch us live right now or at noon, you can watch whenever you want on Rumble. Or you can listen on your favorite podcast platform, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Iheart, wherever you get your shows, whenever you want, it's available right after this show ends. So again, t tell a friend, send the link to a group chat, let the world know about Scrolling with Haley. So what do we have on the show today? Well, there's a new suspect in the Nancy Guthrie disappearance and also another one that they caught released. So we're going to get into the latest details in that story. Also, a little over a week ago, the DOJ released 3 million pages of documents from the Epstein files and I haven't covered it. Maybe you've noticed that I haven't covered it and it's because I haven't had enough time to dedicate to read through it. And I never want to come on here and talk about something that I don't know about. Haven't seen for myself, haven't dug into myself. So last night I spent eight hours going through the Epstein files and let me just say, I barely scratched the surface. Eight hours is not nearly enough time to get into everything that have uncovered. And I started by searching pizza. So I will be diving into a tinfoil hat time segment where Pizzagate meets Epstein. So everyone get ready for that. Put your phones on. Do not disturb Scrolling with Haley starts right now. All right, so it's day 11 in the search for Savannah Guthrie's missing mom, Nancy Guthrie. Again, just to recap, I know you all. If you've been watching this show, you already know all this stuff. 84 years old. She's been missing since January 31st, she was reported missing on February 1st. We are assuming that she is without her medications, that she needs to live. So imagine 11 days without those dire medications. The situation is probably not looking very good. Now, TMZ detected activity in the bitcoin account that was sent in the ransom note. Those original ransom notes, Remember, two were sent. One was sent to a local TV station in Tucson, another sent to tmz. And in that bitcount, a coin. TMZ has been following it and, and looking into it, and there's been activity. People are moving some things around. So it's unclear if a bitcoin payment was made to these suspected abductors. And we actually have some details that I'll get to in a little bit about a new message that was sent to TMZ this morning. Brian Enten from News Nation is on the ground. I also heard that Jake Tapper was on the ground and he rolled up and he's like, is this the house? Like, is this. What's going. I mean, you know. Anyway, so apparently FBI hostage teams were on site in Tucson. We also got some information from the Pinna County Sheriff's Department saying that it had completed a search of a property in Rio Rico, Arizona, which is south of Tucson. And that is in connection to this man that authorities have detained and now released. They questioned him for a few hours. They thought that he might have something to do with it, but then found nothing. So they arrested and questioned him. So we'll get into that. But yesterday, right as the show was ending, FBI director Cash Patel released never before seen videos and photos retrieved from Nancy Guthrie's ring camera that had been smashed and removed. So we can go through these together. We have this photo, this video. This is the alleged suspect up on her ring camera, latex gloves on, seemingly covering the ring camera, trying to cover the ring camera. So he's not on camera. Even though that's, you know, doesn't work like that. You can see he's kind of like walking around, wandering around, looking for something. You see this plant there? He picks it up. Now he has a gun. I bat. I mean, it's unclear if this video is chopped up, how much time is in between all of these clips because it seems like in one of the photos he doesn't have a backpack on. Then he comes back and he has a backpack on. Then he's got a gun. So there's a lot to get into here and there are a lot of theories. Someone in the chat just said, it's the brother in law. He Has a dark beard and dark eyebrows. Listen, there are a lot of people with dark hair and dark eyebrows, so we don't know for sure. But he picked up that plant from that potter and then he is putting it up to the camera, like, kind of like shoving it in the face of the camera a little bit. Again, maybe to conceal what he's doing. I was talking to a friend last night who thinks that a key was potentially left in that potted plant. And he was picking up the key and then maybe he's trying to get into the home here with a key that was maybe potentially left, I don't know. And maybe he's just already held the plant. Like the plant was already in his hand and that's why he dropped it once he got in there. I don't know. Again, a lot of unmissed. There's a lot of, you know, unanswered questions here. So there's a photo of him and he's not wearing a backpack and that's odd. So it seems like he went, he was on site and then got a backpack from somewhere and then he came back with a gun. So he got that from somewhere. And you know, he comes to the house from this ring camera footage or I'm sorry, nest. I'm saying ring, but it's nest, this nest camera footage. And the suspect comes up from the our left, but the right side of the house. Is there potentially a getaway car that dropped him off? How did this guy get there? Did he walk? Where was the gun in the backpack? Because he originally came up with nothing. Then it seems like he went back and got these supplies from where again, came up looking for something. Did someone leave something for him? Was this stuff staged? Was this planned? Is there any evidence of breaking and entering? The was the key left open? Was the door left open? Again, lots of questions. Was this an inside job? Was it someone that knew the family personal? Again, I just said in the chat, a lot of people believe that it is Annie Guthrie's husband. And that is what news nations Ashley Banfield has been saying, saying for weeks now. She says that she has a high level source that says that this is, this is very, very close to home for the Guthrie family and potentially Annie Guthrie's husband, Tomaso Ceoni being a prime suspect. Again, we don't know. We know that he has facial hair. We know that this gentleman in the videos and the photos has facial hair. But Sioni has a very long beard. It's like long here and it's also gray. Now if you look at some more recent photos of him. The. The beard is gray and I guess you can't really tell with the ski mask on. Like how much facial hair is he covering or has he shaved his beard since then? We have no idea. Other things that people are talking about from these videos that it seems like there was something shining in the suspect's mouth. Potentially a flashlight in his mouth. Some people thought, I don't know. Was. Is it like grills? Does he have grills in his mouth? Is this a gang related thing? I mean, the options are really endless here. My first reaction, like we finished the show yesterday and then this was already out while we were live. So I didn't get to cover it yesterday on the show. And the first thing I thought was that eyes were very feminine looking to me. That doesn't mean that it's a woman. I'm just saying the eyes were. They struck me as being kind of feminine. It looked like maybe there was some kind of eyeliner or maybe thick eyelashes. Maybe this is just a guy that has thick eyelashes. I'm just saying that was my first impression where these eyes, kind of bulging eyes. And people are saying now because they're taking these photos, they're cleaning them up with AI certain things. And it looks like the suspect has hooded eyes. But I don't know, I think if your eyes are open wide like this, it can maybe look like they're hooded, but they're not. Sioni's eyes look hooded in some photos. In other photos, not really. So I don't even think. I don't even think we can go based on that. Obviously authorities are using probably facial recognition technology that I do not have access to and normal people do not have access to. But, you know, even though his eyes looked female to me, it seemed like this guy was walking the way that he was walking his gate seemed very male to me. And we kind of came to that. All of us came to that conclusion when we were talking about this after the show yesterday and someone in the chat said, could be another. And I can't lie to you, I did think that. I did think that. Because I thought that about the Boston University guy. I did. I thought something about his body, the way he moves seemed female to me. But again, all these guys have such low testosterone nowadays. You just never know. You just never know. But you can't rule anything out, right? We don't. There are so many unknowns. I will also say he was wearing those latex gloves you could see because he was putting his fist up to the camera. And depending on how thin the gloves are, you can leave behind prints. You can't. Like latex gloves. You're supposed to. It's. I mean, you're supposed to not leave behind fingerprints. But I think it's possible with the oils in your skin to leave some kind of a print. Also footprints. I mean, what shoes was he wearing? I mean, these are all clues that we have. Now based on this footage, we know that he was wearing some kind of a running sneaker. The terrain in Arizona, it seems like it's very muddy, like dusty and dirt, you know, so maybe he left some kind of a shoe print in the dirt. We'll see. But these nest doorbell cameras, and not just Nest, but all of these different brands, all of these doorbell cameras, they are always recording whether you subscribe to see that content or not. And that means that someone can see it or access it. And that doesn't necessarily mean that you have access to that content. Maybe you do not pay for a subscription, but someone has. The content goes somewhere, the recordings go somewhere. And we had this conversation at large yesterday on the show based on those super bowl halftime show commercials. There was one from Amazon with AI in your home and how that could be damaging. And then of course, the ring doorbell camera. Super bowl halftime, super bowl commercial that was about everyone turn your ring camera into a neighborhood watch party, a search party for a lost dog. Right. These companies know that, whether or not. And they said in that super bowl commercial, you can pay, pay now. It's free right now, but you can be. You could subscribe to be part of this, like, search party. And whether or not you subscribe doesn't even matter because the recording goes to some cloud. And certainly based on what we know from the FBI director, the FBI can obtain that footage if they want. It doesn't matter if the Guthrie family subscribed to this footage or not. The authorities could get it, which I think we should all kind of know. I think we all think that we have some kind of a privacy, but we really don't. Just think about that in terms of security cameras that you may have in your home or around your home, furbos in your home, like all of these kinds of cameras. Where does this footage actually go? Where is it stored? Who can access it? It's kind of out of your hands. Someone can see in your home. That is a very scary prospect. And you know, Nancy Guthrie had cameras all around her house. And I read a report that authorities were retrieving a camera from her roof the other Day. So these are arguably the ones that the FBI put out yesterday, are probably the best images and videos of the suspect, because the suspect is right in the doorbell. Right. Right in that camera where you can see the eyes, the mouth, the. The hands, the gate, all of this stuff. So, so what they gave. I mean, if there are cameras that they can access in the back of the house, maybe we can see how this guy entered. Maybe we can get a getaway car. But I'm thinking that they put this video out, in this photo out, because this could actually help the public, help them. Right? If someone has recognized this person, seen this person before, and it seems like it is working, right? People are coming out and they're. They're. They're giving up their ring doorbell cameras. This was a video that local authorities put out last week, and this was of a man kind of snooping around a property in the area. So, again, we do not know if this is connected to the video that the FBI put out yesterday. We don't know if it's the same guy, but we know that this is someone's doorbell camera footage in the same area. And it looks like a guy with facial hair kind of roaming around. He has a. He's got the beard, same kind of a body type, and he's wearing this kind of reflective vest. And then there's another video of him going across, and you could tell that it's a blue vest, which kind of looks like an Amazon delivery driver. Right. And again, is there a connection? We don't know. The build looks the same. If you told me that this guy was the same guy in the ski mask at the front door of Nancy Guthrie's house, I could believe it. Right. They look similar enough, but that's not enough. Right. Why would this guy be snooping around other people's houses in the neighborhood? Don't know. And if he was snooping around other homes in the neighborhood, and if that is the same guy, maybe he didn't target Nancy Guthrie specifically, or maybe if it's one of these neighborhoods, and I don't know, but there are a lot of neighborhoods where it's kind of like model homes and they're all kind of the same. And maybe not all of the houses in the neighborhood are the same, but like every other. Or every three. And maybe he was going to another house that was designed similarly to Nancy Guthrie's house to try to get the lay of the land. I don't know. I'm just spitballing here, but this seems like it is very Close and personal for some reason. And the Guthrie's home is a crime scene, but seemingly no crime scene tape. And I'm going to get into this because we have video that I'm going to play in just a second or two of a pizza delivery guy that. That came up the driveway. But they. They did. The authorities, the FBI, did detain a man. Again, not sure if the man that they detained was the man in that footage that we just saw, but he was taken in for questioning. His house was searched with a warrant. And he said that, you know, his front door and back door was damaged. He told NBC news that. Or tell him into that. And he said that the agents told him that he looked like a person seen in the security camera footage from the Guthrie's house. So maybe not the footage that I just played of the neighborhood guy, but of the one from Nancy Guthrie's front door. And he said that he's a delivery driver, but he doesn't know if he's ever delivered anything to the Guthrie's house. He says that he has nothing to do with this. Watch this video. I mean, I hope to get the suspect because I'm not it. They better do their job and find the suspect that did it so they can clear my name and I'm done. Look at what I'm putting my family. You're on the news now. Not just stand. Even my parents in Tucson. Yeah. So authorities said early this morning that the search at that property was over, but the investigation is ongoing. So they released that suspect. And now let's get into the pizza delivery guy yesterday. Again, supposed to be a crime scene. And oddly enough, this delivery pizza guy was able to deliver a pizza to Nancy Guthrie's house yesterday. Watch this. Where exactly? It's a circle driveway. Where exactly this person parked. You can see there's media out there. And they're filming the pizza guy. He got all the way to the door, and now he's walking back down the driveway. Of what's supposed to be an active crime scene. And this looks like an independent journalist kind of questioning him at the end. And you could see he was kind of. It's a domino's delivery driver. And he's just kind of awkward laughing. I would feel very uncomfortable if that was me, too. Just trying to do my job. But here is how the sheriff's office responded to that pizza delivery. Look at this quote. We can't believe we have to say this, but media on scene, please do not order food delivery to a crime scene address. This interferes with an active investigation. Please also respect private property laws. Thank you. And if you read the replies on this post, people were coming for them. Like, how dare you blame the reporters for ordering pizza and not securing the crime scene? You know, my question is, how did anyone let the pizza guy get that far? And reporters are on scene. You know, there are people, they have to eat. Me personally, anytime I in the past had to cover something, I would always try to eat before the assignment or after. And I had never covered anything for more than maybe three or four hours. So I don't know why you would need to eat in that amount of time. You could bring a granola bar, a banana, something like that with you. But maybe they were there all day. I don't know. I don't know what these reporters assignments are. I'm wondering how a bunch of journalists, though, let a pizza man walk past them to an active crime scene. Didn't one of you potentially order the pizza or know the pizza was coming? If I ordered a pizza to a crime scene and I was standing outside and I saw a pizza delivery guy roll up in a car and leave his car with a box of pizza, I would go up to him and go retrieve the pizza. Like, I don't even know how he got that far from the media on the street without someone being like, oh, that's the lunch I ordered. Then I heard reports that someone just like a kind person sent pizza to an independent journalist who was on the ground. So it's possible that someone was just trying to be nice and helpful and support independent journalism. And the journalist didn't even know that the pizza was coming and that the pizza was for them. But still, if it's an active crime scene and there are police on the ground, I don't know how secure it can be. If a guy just walked all the way up and back and no one stopped him, you would think that if he walked all the way up to the door, I mean, wouldn't cops run after him and try to question him at least? Like, I. It just seems odd. Then a new detail. According to tmz, a new note was sent, sort of like a new ransom note. Now, again, someone has already been arrested for sending text messages, and they. That guy is in jail, Right? He was arrested, but two notes were sent. One to the local station in Tucson and one to TMZ. And that had two separate deadlines. Remember, they were demanding $6 million or something crazy. And those deadlines have both passed. Now, this morning, TMZ said that a note said this before. Just before 5:00am Pacific Time. So very, very early this morning. The sender claims that they have tried to unsuccessfully reach Savannah Guthrie's brother Cameron and her sister Annie by text and email. Again, if they've already. If the family has already dealt with a fake scammer ransom texter, why would they take this person seriously? I'm, I'm just spitballing here, but if I was going through this, this was my family. And law enforcement is probably telling them, hey, beware of people glomming on and scamming you. I don't know why Cameron and Annie would respond to this random text message. And why is this person going to Cameron and Annie and not also to Savannah? I don't know. But the note said this. If they want the name of the individual involved, then I want one bitcoin to the following wallet. Time is more than relevant. So more questions. Is this another person wanting attention? There's already a $50,000 reward for information leading to the arrest or the return of Nancy. So, you know, one bitcoin, how does that up the ante that much? Harvey Levin was saying that this would equal about $56,000. So in the same ballpark is what the reward money is already. And you know, for the last week, it's been unclear if these ransom notes are real. They arrested the fake ransom note guy, which I think contributed to some of the doubt about whether or not this is a real abduction. But now that this footage has been released by the FBI, it seems like authorities are really running down this abduction theory now. And there seems to be some kind of nefarious criminal activity regardless of, you know, Nancy being gone and missing. It just seems like there's a lot of crimes taking place now and sort of like a copycat effect of people wanting to get involved in this in some way. And something tells me that if Nancy Guthrie was abducted, she might be very, very far from Tucson right now. You can get very far in 11 days. Maybe she's right under their noses in Tucson. That's a possibility. But you know, I don't think that Nancy Guthrie and her captors, alleged captors, could get on a flight or anything without being noticed. 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Now Jeffrey Epstein was convicted in 2008 in the Florida State Court and he pled guilty to felony charges of procuring a child for prostitution and soliciting a prostitute. He served 13 months in jail as part of his plea deal. But that happened in 2008. This was in 2012. So here I'm going through the Epstein files. I told you I spent eight hours barely scratched the surface last night. Okay, barely. But I searched this email correspondence with our current Commerce Secretary and Jeffrey Epstein. This is what it had to say. Hi Jeff. This is from Howard Lutnick to Jeffrey Epstein. Hi Jeff. We are landing in St. Thomas early Saturday afternoon and planning to head over to St. Barth Anguilla on Monday at some point. Where are you located? What is the exact location for my captain? Does Sunday evening for dinner sound good? I have another couple, Michael and Marcy Lurman with me on my Boat. And each of us has four children. Two 16s, two 14s, a 13, a 12, an 11 and a 7 year old. Thanks, Howard. And it wasn't just Howard Lutnick corresponding with Jeffrey Epstein. His wife Allison was also sending emails back and forth about this as well. If you could pull up Allison's email, she said, hi, this is Allison Lutnick. We are looking forward to visiting you. We will be coming from Kennel Bay in the morning. We are a crowd. Two families each with four kids ranging from seven to 16, six boys and two girls. I hope that's okay. We would love to join you for lunch. Please advise on timing and exactly where our boat should go. Would 1 or 1:30pm for lunch work? We are traveling in a yacht called Excellence and I am CCing the captain. There were other emails about Howard Lutnick sending, sending, setting up meetings with him, things like this. But this is the only email or the only two emails that referenced him going to the island. And my question is, what business meeting could be so important that you bring your kids to a convicted pedophile's island? Just saying what needs to be done in person or said in person. Why couldn't you call your convicted pedophile friend over the phone? I don't know. Just asking. But Commerce Secretary Lutnick testified yesterday in front of the Senate Appropriations Committee on broadband Funding. But also he was asked about his ties to Epstein. And here is Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick confirming what is in those emails. Listen, did you, in fact make the visit to Jeffrey Epstein's private island? I did have lunch with him as I was on a boat going across on a family vacation. My wife was with me, as were my four children and nannies. I had another couple with. They were there as well with their children. And we had lunch on the island. That is true. For an hour. And we left with all of my children. Yeah. Okay, you left with all of your children. That's good. I'm glad to hear that. But, you know, there have been call people are now, you know, catastrophizing. Right. They're just saying, well, he needs to be removed from office, he needs to be fired. He needs to step down. He needs to listen. Just because you were in the emails doesn't mean anything. Just because you were on the island. Again, no evidence of wrongdoing. But White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt says that Howard Lutnick's job is safe. Listen, so does the White House stand behind Secretary Lutnick right now or given what he has said, Today, has there been any shift in how the White House is viewing Secretary Lutnick's performance? Ms. No. Secretary Lutnick remains a very important member of President Trump's team, and the president fully supports the secretary. Okay, and again, I get that just because you're named doesn't mean you're guilty of anything. That was my stance when it came to Trump or anyone else. Just because you were emailing back and forth with him doesn't mean that you did anything wrong. Again, going to the island doesn't necessarily prove that you did anything wrong. And again, if Howard Lutnick is removed or resigns just for being named in the files without being found guilty of any wrongdoing, and then by that logic, Democrats would push for the same for Trump to be removed or impeached. Not that they haven't tried that before, but again, I just, personally, I question the judgment of anyone who willingly brings their children to the private island of a pedophile. I don't care if it's for lunch. I don't care if it's just for an hour. I don't care if you tell us that you. You swear you left with all of your kids. Duh. So again, any conversation that you can't have with Jeffrey Epstein over the phone or a business meeting that you can't have with him over the phone or email probably isn't a good one. And based on Jeffrey Epstein's emails, which we'll get to, he had a lot of nefarious conversations via email. He left little to the imagination. So if you have to go to meet him in person, what's going on? Again, there's an aspect of this super rich guy invited me to his private island. We're already on a yacht. Let's go. But again, this was after he was a convicted pedophile, so I don't know. But now some dominoes are starting to fall. The CEO of Wasserman Media Group, Casey Wasserman, was also named in the Epstein files. And here he is emailing back and forth. Watch this. So this is between Casey Wasserman and Glenn Maxwell. Maxwell. Not Jeffrey Epstein, but Glenn Maxwell. And said, okay. Oh, you could scroll down to the bottom because she said to him, she said to him, like, oh, this combo didn't do it for you. Something like that. What can, what can we get for you? You didn't like this combination. And he said, I just want you. You can go back to the other one. Yeah. So that combo didn't do it for you. What combo would then Just you, me and not much else. And then she said, okay, you will not have to share me with either a cheddar cheese, a baked bean or a KitKat signed GX. What? Again, I don't know what this means. I. Does this mean that they were having some kind of sexual relation with other people and they're, they're talking about what does she mean by cheddar cheese, KitKat and baked bean? You don't have to share me with a cheddar cheese, a baked bean or a Kit Kat. And there we're going to get into some of this language that they use in these emails and what these could possibly be code names for. But I don't know what baked bean or KitKat means means. I just don't genuinely. I don't know. So Casey Wasserman, now that this Epstein file dump has come out, Casey Wasserman said this. I deeply regret my correspondence with Glenn Maxwell which took place over two decades ago. Who cares? Long before her horrific crimes came to light. I've never had a personal or business relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, as is well documented. I went on a humanitarian trip as part of a delegation with the Clinton foundation in 2002 on the Epstein plane. I am terribly sorry for having any association with either of them. And you know, there are a lot of people that are represented by the Wasserman Group and Chapel Roan, who is a pop star, very outspoken against ICE and Trump and all this stuff. I've covered her on the show before, but she put out a statement on Instagram saying that she is dropping that management team. She will no longer work with the Wasserman Group based on the his association with Glenn Maxwell and said this artists deserve representation that aligns with their values and supports their safety and dignity. This decision reflects my belief that meaningful change in our industry requires accountability and leadership that earns trust. And there have been some more. Yeah, this is her full statement here. She's just saying as of today, I'm no longer represented by Wasserman, the talent agency led by Casey Wasserman. And I give her props for this. I get it. I think a lot of these people, whether or not they are guilty of anything, I think a lot of these pop stars just don't really want to be associated with pedophilia in general or Epstein or Maxwell in general. And I can, I can understand why. But Barry Josephson was another guy that was named in the this latest file dump and he and his wife are splitting up over it. He is a film producer and former Music producer. He produced. I, I just went through his, you know, IMDb. He produced, like Mike. He produced Dirty Grandpa, Aliens in the Attic, Enchanted, a lot of kids movies. Dirty Grandpa is not a kids movie. But like Mike, Aliens in the Attic, Enchanted. I mean, there are kids on set. Just saying. And this is the email correspondence that Barry Josephson is named in, basically saying, hi, Barry, can you please meet Jeffrey at 12:45pm at the corner of Lex and 83rd. You will then walk one block to a pizza place. Wink. So many winks in the Epstein files and in these emails about pizza, pizza and winks. Pizza place, wink. Why are we winking? Talking about pizza. Why are we wink. What's sexy about pizza? When I say pizza, I mean dough, cheese, sauce, pepperoni. Like, I'm talking about pizza, pizza. Why would we be winking if we were talking about that kind of pizza? I don't know. You're going to walk to a pizza place, wink. What does that mean? And now Barry Josephson's wife, who's a singer, Brooke Josephson, breaks her silence and saying, we're breaking up. I'm no longer going to be married to this man. She posted this on her Instagram saying, barry Josephson and I are going through a divorce. I was not aware of Barry's relationship with Jeffrey Epstein during our entire marriage. I respectfully request privacy and prayers for our children and I during this time. Thank you to all who have shown compassion and respect. So I'm seeing all this fallout and I'm thinking, you know, I saw the Lutnick stuff, Chapel Roan, dropping Wasserman, this breakup. And then last week, you know, what's her face, Bill Gates's ex wife was talking about how, you know, she and Bill Gates were named in the files because Bill Gates was trying to obtain some kind of STD medication that he could slip his wife because he accidentally got an STD from some nefarious activities and potentially gave it to his wife. Again, just sick. So I'm seeing all these things and I'm thinking, okay, I, I have to get in there and I have to read this for myself. I have to go in and search the documents. Where do you start? Right. So I searched kids just to start off. And it seems like there are codes that go beyond pizza. And I just saw, I want to bring up this email as an example because this is an email between Jeffrey Epstein and his brother Mark. And it seems like they're speaking in some kind of a code. I don't know what it is, but they said this, Are you still. This is Mark to Jeffrey. Are you still in touch with Eva? When I was in Dubai last meet last week, I met with a woman doctor that opened a breast cancer screening treatment center in Sudan over 10 years ago. Now in this email, certain words, certain letters are replaced with an equal sign. So instead of the W in, when there's an equals instead of a B in breast cancer screening treatment, there's an equal sign. So I, I typed all of them out and I didn't understand what it meant. It's not like it was a word. It didn't like spell anything out. It could stand for something. It could not. It could stand for something completely different. I don't know. I don't type like this. This seems odd to me. Like, does this seem like they're speaking code to you guys? I don't, I'm not claiming anything. I've heard a theory that it's some sort of OCR misread, optical character recognition. So like the document was scanned and the computer misread a character? Could be. That's a theory. But it just seems odd. Y's and W's don't exactly seem to be misrepresentable as an equal sign. Right. So it just seems odd. It's all strange. It just, yeah, it just, this is something that I noticed because, because we're going to talk about codes and what these codes mean or allegedly mean. And it just seems odd that in this email, you know, he's saying they're talking about kids. I, when I searched kids, this email came up. That's why I'm talking about it. And I noticed the equal signs, random but saying there's a woman in her 30s that have had three to four kids that would normally be protected from cancer due to the child rearing and getting breast cancer at higher rates than you would expect, blah, blah, blah. There's just all these random equal signs in it. It just. Anyway, so speaking about these codes, I searched pizza because of Pizzagate, of course. And if I'm sure a lot of you are aware of Pizzagate, but in 2016, the personal email account of John Podesta, Hillary Clinton's campaign chair, was hacked and WikiLeaks published all of the emails. And I remember that time. Right, right. Going through all these emails and this is how Pizzagate really got its legs. Because they, in these emails they're talking about high ranking officials in the Democrat party and the whole conspiracy theory is that they are running some alleged human trafficking ring, a child sex ring, and they're running it out of a pizza place in Washington, D.C. called Comet Ping Pong Pizza. And that is just. That is the conspiracy theory. For legal reasons, this is a joke. For legal reasons. This is for entertainment and educational purposes only. I'm just saying that's what the conspiracy theory says. Right? And in John Podesta's emails, they're talking about throwing pizza parties for Hillary Clinton and planning extravagant pizza birthday parties. Can I make you a pizza? So here's an example from one of the emails. Hi, John, the realtor found a handkerchief. I think it has a map that seems pizza related. Is it yours? They can send it to you if you want. I know you're busy, so feel free to not respond if it's not yours or you don't want it. You dropped a handkerchief that has a map on it that's related to pizza. We're not talking about pizza here. We're not talking about the dough and the cheese and the sauce. Okay? I'm just saying that because. What do you mean you dropped a handkerchief and there's a map on it related to pizza? Like a map of pizzerias in the area. I don't know. Just seems odd also for rich and powerful people to be talking about pizza. This much is crazy, too. Why are you throwing a pizza party for Hillary? Hillary Clinton? Why are you bringing pizza over to other people's houses asking if they want pizza delivered? And it just seems to me that if you're rich, you're not ordering pizza. Wouldn't you go to a nicer restaurant? Wouldn't you have sushi or caviar delivered? I don't know. It just seems, like, weird for all these rich people to eat pizza all the time. And pizza is code for girl. This is alleged. I don't know. But this is what people are saying that pasta could mean little boy. This is all part of the Pizzagate conspiracy theory that cheese means little girl, hot dog, boy, ice cream, male pop, prostitute. And this kind of language is also being used in the Epstein emails. There's a lot of pizza. I mean, I searched pizza and there's just. Again, I spent eight hours, eight hours going through just the pizza ones. And again, this is not everything. So that just goes to show you need a lot of time on your hands to go through all these. But I want to go through some of these pizza emails because there are redactions in them. And this is a redacted email to Ike Groff, which is Leslie Groff's husband, who is an assistant, a Longtime assistant for Jeffrey Epstein. And this says, did you want to go out for your B day? I'm not done till 7:30. Or I can get Letizia's. Whatever you want to do, we can do for you, but I need to know so I can get pizza. If that is what you want. Smart. Smiley face again. Are you going out to a pizzeria for someone's birthday dinner? Especially if you're like a rich person? I just don't think so. But anyway, here's some other emails. This one is from Leslie Grof again, his longtime assistant saying, alert, order pizza for Bobby Slayton. Comedian, actor Bobby Slayton. Five days later, here's another email about Bobby. And this says, hi JoJo, Jeffrey would like you to go to Arturo's today and buy a large cheese pizza for Bobby slayton staying at 301 and deliver it to the apartment. 7J Arturo's opens at 4pm Be there when they open and order the pizza, Then deliver to 301. Bobby may or may not be there. He hopes to be at the apartment between 4 and 5:30pm I guess if he's not there, you must leave with the doorman. One of Jeffrey Epstein's cards that reads compliments of Jeffrey Epstein right on the card. Arturo's Pizza for Bobby confirmed back to me and then sent the address of Arturo's Pizza on Houston street in New York City. I guess if pizza was a girl, I mean you can't leave a human being at the doorman. Unless this the doorman was in on it or whatever. Maybe it is pizza. I have no idea. Now this email says let me know once done and if Bobby is there so I can tell Jeffrey Epstein again, are we talking about pizza? We're talking about a pizza delivery here. There's how many people involved, how many assistants involved in a, a driver, someone to pick up the pizza, the assistant a coordinating again, it's a pizza delivery. It just seems odd to me. And then let Jeffrey Epstein know when it's delivered. It's just again, what? So then here's another email talking about pizza and Bobby Slayton and a winky face. Again, it's always pizza and the winky face. Now this latest email correspondence is between Leslie Groff, the assistant and what seems to be Bobby. And in this email Leslie says, or Bobby says to her, like do you need a pizza? You can scroll down, this is at the bottom. But she says leaving. Or he says leaving tomorrow morning early. And yes, of course we will be there at 4 to meet Jeffrey Epstein. You Need a pizza or anything. And Leslie replied, hahaha, no I don't need a pizza. But thank you for offering Wink. See you at 4pm and thanks on the apartment info. Huh. It's just odd. It's really odd. Some of these emails could very well be about pizza if pizza just means pizza. But nobody talks about a pizza delivery like this. They don't send pizza to their friends. I listen, I'm not rich so what do I know? But I don't send pizza to my friends houses. I send flowers. But a pizza. It just seems odd. And this next email kind of insinuates that pizza doesn't actually mean the food pizza, which I think we all kind of know at this point. But this one is quite telling. So this is. I don't know if this is the right one. Maybe they're talking about getting pizza three times in one day. He's never done that before. But this email says Jeffrey says he wants to go out to a pizza place with you. He did not mention our particular pizza place. But he knows you are in the know on this. With a wink. You. He knows you are in the know on this. With a wink. Again, I would never email someone to set up a pizzeria date with a wink. You're I know you're in the know on this just seems odd. And the same way in the Pizzagate Podesta emails. These elites are obsessed with planning pizza parties. The last time I went to a pizza party was when I was in grade school. Grade school. The last time I went to a pizza party I was in grade school. So maybe that has something to do with this. I don't know. But I would like to throw this out to the chat. When was the last time you went to a pizza party? Because I don't even think I had been to a pizza party in high school. I was like too old for pizza parties in high school. People weren't having those. So pizza party to me screams elementary school, Friday night, pizza night, movie night, getting pizza. Pizza in school you do well on a test. Pizza for the class. Someone says 5th grade kids birthday party. Exactly. There's something about pizza parties and kids that just go hand in hand. Whereas pizza parties and Democrat elites just seems odd if we're talking about real pizza. So. So I don't think that we are. And there are billionaires just desperate to have pizza parties. So this is an email saying that Feeney is asking about a pizza party this weekend. Feeney asking about a pizza party? Why would a billionaire if they Are talking about Chuck Feeney here. Why would he be wanting a pizza party this weekend? It just seems silly. And if you don't know who Chuck Feeney is, well, I will let Bill Gates tell you. Watch this. Chuck Feeney was an energetic entrepreneur, Created a lot of companies until he got to Duty Free shopping, which was so successful that when he sold it, he ended up with over a billion dollars that he put into an offshore philanthropy called Atlantic Philanthropy. The idea of becoming a billionaire could be kind of empty unless there is a purpose that the funds are used for. I'm not here to tell anybody what they should do with their money, but I'm just convinced that the satisfaction one can achieve from helping people is a level of satisfaction that you can't get otherwise. For a long time, he did all his giving anonymously. Okay, well, Bill Gates thinks he's a good dude. So if Bill Gates thinks he's a good dude, then. Then he is. And, you know, there was a clip in that video where Chuck Feeney, who's, you know, I think he gave away his like, 8 billion dollar. And he did a lot of his giving silently that people applauded him for. Although I guess they found out that he was, you know, silently giving this stuff away. So how silent was it? But he said, you know, I'm a billionaire, but I would just be happy with the grilled cheese. And I now looking into this, these code words, I'm thinking maybe he's not talking about girl GS at all. So was this guy a good guy or not? I don't know. Again, this is a tinfoil hat time segment. I'm not claiming that any of this is fact or fiction. I'm just saying this is what I'm reading. And this is my. I just have my tinfoil hat on. That's all. And, you know, after I searched pizza in the files, which took me about like eight hours, like I said, I searched Lolita. And this came up because the plane is known as the Lolita Express. And then this email came up. Hi, Jeffrey. I met Blank today. Redacted. Which is probably redacted because this is a victim. She is like Lolita from Nabokov. Feminine, miniature. And so now I should send you her type of candidate's own only question mark. Tomorrow we travel to burn for visas. Kind regards. And then that name is also redacted. So we don't know the email that it was sent from. We don't know the victim, of course, But I'm wondering why we don't know who sent that email? This is another one where it's a discuss. This is probably one of the most disgusting emails. And again, whoever sent it is redacted. So this is about his littlest girl. This is a email from a redacted email address to Jeffrey Epstein. Thank you for a fun night. Your littlest girl was a Little Naughty in 2014. Again, do not know who sent that email, but it was sent at three in the morning in 2014. The person who sent the email is clearly not a victim. So who had fun with the little girl? Inquiring minds want to know. And my thoughts just to wrap this up on Epstein have always been consistent. Transparency, transparency, transparency. I don't care who's in the files. I don't care if it's world leaders, celebrities, or anyone. Protect the victims at all costs. But everyone else should be fair game. And I understand you can't just arrest people because they're named in the files or they met with Jeffrey or they went to the island or anything like that. You can't just arrest people with no evidence. I understand that. But I do applaud people for distancing themselves or divorcing people who are tied to Jeffrey Epstein or Glenn Maxwell in any way, shape or form, because I would probably do that too, if that was me. And denouncing pedophilia is really one of the easiest stances to take of all time. And on that note, tinfoil hat time is over. And scrolling time begins. Oh, wait, play it again. I didn't watch it. We're hitting scrolling dime again. I rem. Oh, nice. I like. Good catch on my end. Love it. Everyone got scrolling time. Intro music. Twice today. Yeah, I was a fan of the throwing golf club video. Extra dance time. Yeah, that was unfortunate. I've only played once since then, and I think I was just a little dejected after playing in the pouring rain and throwing my driver into the pond. So I do have to get back out there. It's just been so cold here that I really haven't. I haven't had the golf bug this summer. I was playing like once or twice a week, but. And this summer I broke 80 for the first time, which was incredible. I was happy with myself, but now I haven't played in probably six months, so four months. So now I have to start back at square one again. And we will closer to the mic. I can't really pull it closer to me. I can pull closer to it, you know, I like that. Yeah, it's so funny. People are like whenever the Mic was in my face. Move the mic away from your face. Now the mic is away from my face, and everyone's complaining that they can't hear. So what do you want? I guess they want to hear. So the mic's going to be in my face. How's that? Anyway, I'm just reading the chat. Sometimes it goes so fast I can't really read it. Someone said. I notice Hillary hasn't had much to say in the past few days. She loves to just pop back up out of nowhere. She's always. She always comes back. She's back. Let's play this video. This is. Oh, this is cute. Did you send this to me or did Frankie send it to me? You sent it. Okay, so this is a very cute video of a dog blessing other dogs watch. So this is. Look at him. Are these. I'm. I'm bad. Are these German shepherds? I don't know my. My dog breeds. No, I don't know what they are. I don't know either, but they're very cute nonetheless. And this dog is just. He has his hands over the heads of his friends, his little doggy friends. And I would like to think that he's saying a prayer. And the caption says, does your dog bite? No, he blesses my son. My friend sent me a. A meme today, and it was like, does your dog bite? I don't know. He doesn't. He doesn't bite me. And that's how I feel when people come over and they're like, is your cat nice? I'm like, she's nice to me. I don't know. Well, I guess we'll wait and see. They're like, if I pet her, will she bite me? I'm like, she's never done that to me. But I don't know. I guess we'll. I guess we'll see. You could be the guinea pig. How's that? But. But she's not. She's. She's very kind. She actually is. She's been known to jump on people when they come in. Like, she's just. She gets very excited. So, anyway. What'd you say? All right, here. Are cats enjoying the Winter Olympics? I know we're all enjoying the Winter Olympics, and these cats are no different. They're watching. Oh, the cat's jumping and trying to catch the. The athletes. What are. What are they called? People who do luge. What are they called? I just called them athletes because I have no idea. Losers. That sounds so close to losers that I hope that that's not what they're called. They're not losers. They're winners. But I just think that this is funny. They're the two cats against the tv. Someone said losers. No, they're not losers. They're just. I don't know. I don't know what they're called. Winners and losers were. And then this last video that I have for you is. It's sort of like a candle doing luge. Watch last yesterday, I played a video of. Or last week, I played a video of someone sending a shovel, and it just went miles and miles and miles down the. The ice. And this person's backyard is so iced over, and the stairs are so iced over. I don't know how they are gonna leave. I don't know how you leave your. Your house at a time like this, but they put the. The candle down and then just sent it for a little ride. Is anyone's backyard looking like this still? I know we had the cold snap and all the. It was freezing a few weeks ago, but I don't know if other people are still dealing with that kind of snow. This is why you have to. You have to shovel as the snow comes. You. You can't just let it pile up and then ice over, because now you're screwed. Now, I wouldn't, you know, I couldn't leave my house if it was like that. So anyway, you know what that candle reminded me of? The candle going down the. The icy steps and everything. Do you remember that. That Chef Boyardee commercial from, like, years and years ago, and the Chef Boyardee, like, the kid is in the grocery store with his mom, and he's like, can we get Chef Boyardee? And the mom's like, no. And then the Chef Boyardee can. Follows the kid all the way home, and it's just like rolling and rolling and rolling and rolling. That's kind of like this candle. Maybe some kid wanted to buy that candle at a store and it's going to find its rightful owner. I don't know. But thank you for scrolling along with me. I had fun. I hope you did too. You could follow me. Oh, this is the. This is commercial. This is iconic millennial commercial. When did this come out? She's like, bye, Chef. I wanted to eat you, but my mom is being rude. And then the Chef where he's like, have no fear, I'm coming home with you. Don't worry. On the highway. 2004. 2004. Wow. This is an old commercial. And I remember that's an iconic commercial. They do not make commercials like this anymore. Let me just say it. The. The Chef Boyardee is still rolling and rolling and rolling and on the way. On the way when you're like, mom, can we get McDonald's? And they're like, no, we have food at home. So the kid's like, can we get Chef Boyardee? And the mom's like, no, we have food at home. And the chef boy is like, you bet you thought you saw the last of me. Anyway, good commercial. Again, not a sponsor, but maybe. Think big, big, big. Maybe we can get Chef Flaherty to sponsor the show. Yeah, them and Amazon. His commercials we totally hyped up. We've been shitting on Amazon all week long and it's like, Amazon, let me know if you want to give us some money. We would love it. Ring doorbells. Woo. For the dogs. For the dogs. For the dogs. And on that note, thank you for joining the show today. You can follow me on social media. I'm on X, Tik Tok, Truth, Social, Instagram and whatever else. I should start posting on Facebook, but I don't. So anyway, at Haley Carania, and I'll see you right back here tomorrow. Bye, Sa.
Host: Hayley Caronia
Date: February 11, 2026
Hayley Caronia delivers a packed episode focused on two headline topics: the dramatic recent developments in the Nancy Guthrie kidnapping case and her deep dive into the latest release of Jeffrey Epstein files. With her signature wit and conservative perspective, Hayley dissects the facts, explores theories, highlights media reactions, and, in her “Tinfoil Hat Time” segment, draws connections between Epstein, coded language, and long-standing conspiracies like Pizzagate. The episode is a blend of true crime updates, media criticism, internet sleuthing, and cultural commentary.
Case Recap:
Bitcoin Activity & Ransom Notes:
Law Enforcement Activity:
Release of New Surveillance Footage (Ring/Nest Camera):
Suspect Description and Theories:
Discussion on Surveillance Cameras and Privacy (29:10):
Community and Media Reaction:
Arrest and Release of a Suspect:
Odd Crime Scene Lapse – Pizza Delivery Incident (47:00):
New Ransom Note to TMZ (55:40):
Current Theories and Takeaways:
Epstein Document Release:
Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick’s Ties to Epstein (01:01:50):
Casey Wasserman & Other High-Profile Names (01:10:25):
Epstein’s and Associates’ Coded Emails – “Pizza,” “Wink,” etc. (01:17:00):
Broader Theories:
Document Anomalies – Potential Encryption or Redaction (01:20:00):
Examples of Disturbing Correspondence:
Hayley’s Takeaways:
Pet Videos:
Personal asides:
Iconic Nostalgia:
On Camera Privacy (19:54):
“We all think that we have some kind of privacy, but we really don’t. Just think about that in terms of security cameras you may have in your home… the content goes somewhere, the recordings go somewhere.”
On Suspicious Email Language (01:22:30):
“Nobody talks about a pizza delivery like this… I don’t send pizza to my friends. I send flowers… but a pizza? It just seems odd.”
On Public Figures and Epstein (01:06:22):
“Just because you were emailing back and forth with him doesn’t mean that you did anything wrong. Again, going to the island doesn’t necessarily prove that you did anything wrong… But personally, I question the judgement of anyone who willingly brings their children to the private island of a pedophile.”
On Pizzagate and Power (01:30:45):
“Pizza party to me screams elementary school, Friday night, pizza night, movie night… Whereas pizza parties and Democrat elites just seems odd if we’re talking about real pizza.”
On Transparency (01:39:20):
“Transparency, transparency, transparency… Protect the victims at all costs. But everyone else should be fair game.”
The episode maintains Hayley’s blend of sharp, no-nonsense conservative commentary, peppered with humor and skepticism, especially regarding media narratives and elite behavior. Listeners are drawn in as participants—Hayley repeatedly engages the chat, asks rhetorical questions, and shares relatable personal experiences.
Expect a fast-paced walkthrough of two of the week’s biggest internet stories, layered with conspiracy theory callbacks, a critical look at media and law enforcement, and frank speculation. This episode is for fans of true crime, political controversy, and conservative skepticism—delivered with Hayley’s characteristic candor and edge.