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Hailey Caranilla
Hello and welcome to this Friday edition of Nightly Scroll. I'm Hailey Caranilla. Happy Friday. It's almost the freaking weekend. But first, another great episode of Nightly scroll. And a great interview about none other than George Soros. You know his name. You know he is the financier to the Democrats you love to hate. But how deep does his influence run? At 94 years old, with billions in the bank, the future of the Soros web of corruption hangs in the balance. George is father to five children, but one has emerged as the heir to the hope in society, foundations and all of the political power that comes with it. George has primed his son, Alexander Soros to take the reins and he is far more radical than the boogeyman himself. My next guest has done deep dives on the Soros family and he authored the book the man behind the Curtain Inside the Secret Network of George Soros. And now a new expose on Alex is out for pre order now. Joining me now with a sneak peek, author of the air, Matt Palumbo joins me on this episode of Nightly Scroll.
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Matt Palumbo
Hey, thank you so much for having me on.
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Hailey Caranilla
Of course. Thank you so much for being here. Congratulations on the book. Second book, I mean, how long did this take you?
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Matt Palumbo
So it was, I would say about 4 to 500 hours worth of work for this one. And it's the same length in terms of word count as the book I wrote about George Soros, but it took about twice as long. And the reason is with George, I was writing about someone who had been in the public eye for many, many decades. And there'd been a lot of research written on him, a lot of studies, a lot of he had published a lot of work that I could read myself and review and write about. So I felt like I was more of an aggregator than a researcher with that book. Although, you know, it's still research but with the Alex book it is 100% original research. So it included doing things like, you know, having no life and clicking through every single social media photo he has ever posted in the past decade to track which politicians he's seeing and putting them into tables and then trying to correlate it to certain events. My friend Joseph Asquez and I, he works at the Media Research center and is, he's there Matt Palumbo, he's their source guy. So he teamed up on a lot of stuff to a, you know, him meet his writing quota and meet research for the book. And we did two very studies that actually ended up being some of the most read ones on their website. One of them was tracking Alex Soros environmentalist agenda. Because environment has been his number one issue ever since he started talking about politics. And it is sort of the go to issue for people who just want a lot of attention and you know, want to take an issue where you really can never prove them wrong because they just keep kicking the, you know, moving the goalposts endlessly. But that was his number one issue. And we reviewed all of the Open Society Foundation's grants that they disclosed publicly which go from 2016 to 2023. It took us three months to go through every single one of them and isolate the ones that were climate related. But what we found was that up until Alex took control of his father's empire, it was about $190 million the OSF spent on climate. Now that includes grants.
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Hailey Caranilla
Let's start from the beginning here. So one more. Additionally, the nightly scroll audience. Yes, let's start with George Soros, how he made his money. I mean they have billions of dollars. So how did he wield this power and become this boogeyman of the left?
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Matt Palumbo
The answer out of order I was going to add it's an extra 430 million on top of the 190 since Alex took over. So that the big conclusion of the study. But when it comes to Georgia's source of wealth, it is all through his hedge fund. It is all speculation. He is, well, he is a market manipulator. Everyone knows when he broke the British pound for a billion dollars. But he's also done similar trades with Asian currencies He played a lot a role in the ending of the Soviet Union in the aftermath, where a lot of his defenders have sort of portrayed him as someone who has enabled capitalism in post Soviet countries. But his activities really were just to buy up state assets for pennies on the dollar that he was able to, through his political connections, to profit from it. And then I guess sort of spin that as a pro capitalist thing. But he is, in terms of his return on investment, his percent return over his fund's lifetime, it is the second highest performing fund manager of all time is George Soros. Only Ray Dalio at a firm called Bridgewater Associates has outperformed him. Now part of it with George, yes, he is a brilliant trader, but he has had insider trading scandals. He has been fined by the French government for insider trading. And then there's also this sort of Pelosi esque insider trading as well that you would just expect to happen. He is a man that can influence political events. He will know what is going to happen ahead of time and he will know how that's going to impact markets. So to think that someone as quite frankly evil, manipulative as him is not trading on that information was of course be delusional. But you can get away with it when it's okay, I'm influencing politics in Georgia and trading a newer contract there, it might evade the SEC more than if you're doing it in our market. So he's made a lot from that. And despite retiring from politics, at least on paper in 2023, he has remained active with his hedge fund. And his hedge fund bought a major radio company called Odyssey ahead of the 2024 election. The FCC fast tracked that acquisition. They didn't. They bypass a lot of the normal regulatory hurdles you're supposed to go through. Our current FCC commissioner too says it was not normal at all what happened. And that enabled.
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Hailey Caranilla
He's got friends in high places. And so. All right, so he's still involved in the hedge fund. Now he's buying up radio stations. That's comforting. But the Open Society Foundation. So how involved is George in that now and in what capacity is Alex Soros taking the reins?
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Matt Palumbo
You know, well, I would say in the, the least he's ever been, although he always will be until he dies. So it was announced in June of 2023 that Alex would be taking over the Open Society Foundation. But back, I mean, when I was writing the first book back in 2021, there was a lot of talk of Alex already kind of, kind of being involved. I Mean, I know you read the book. I had a very. I think the longest chapter was the one in Albania. And I, throughout writing that chapter, developed a lot of contacts. I got to go to the country as early as 2022, and there was a lot of talk with the politicians there of, you know, this kid is. I guess he's not a kid, but he kind of looks like one. This kid is in our country every month he's meeting with our prime minister. You know, he's already replaced George in this country. And George has a very long history. I get into in the book there, but I found evidence that Alex had basically taken over European operations for the OSF back in 2015. He became chairman of the board in December of 2022. And also in 2022, he took over the PAC that funds all of the district attorneys that George was funding. So any DA you see that was elected from 2022 onward, that is called the George Soros DA actually is an Alex DA. And I there is one that will blow your mind. So there was, when I wrote the first book, there was one called Kim Ogg. She was a Soros DA in Harris County. And you know, I think I had a paragraph of material on her in the book. She was not a standout da. She did some weak on crime stuff. Crime went up in the immediate term, but, but, but by the time that book had reached publication, she had reversed course on a lot of those policies. She was not really ideologically driven. I guess George was trying to just turn her as opposed to funding an insane person and something. I don't know what went on with her and George, but she must have snapped in some way because she had since told people not to vote for Democrat. Judges endorsed Ted Cruz, prosecuted a George Soros judge. And Alex, in response, funded a DA to run against the George Soros DA who went rogue against George Soros. So that's sort of the funniest case of a Soros DA or Alex DA have in the book. But the one that I think people will know of is Mary Moriarty. And that there was the story recently of this Minnesota government bully I think worked, you know, for Tim Walls, and he was vandalizing teslas. There was six Teslas he vandalized $21,000 worth of damage. Supposed to be a felony if you do a thousand or more. But this Zorro CA just decided, you know what? We're gonna, you know, do a diversion program, which ultimately means nothing happens. So she announces that on a. On a Wednesday, two days prior, she Charged a woman who keyed a car at an Arby's, a 19 year old kid with a felony for $7,000 worth of damage. So, you know, we always talk about the Soros DA's, you know, cutting police or, you know, loosening up the laws, but they don't even necessarily have to do that. They can just choose which laws to enforce. You know, there are Soros das, say vandalism is fine, we won't prosecute vandalism. I found cases in those jurisdictions where there was a couple that, you know, just weeks after that Sorosier said that had vandalized the Black Lives Matter mural. And what do you know, got a vandalism charge and a hate crime charge. So it's how the laws are enforced just as much as what they are.
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Hailey Caranilla
So how many of these Soros DA's, Alex Soros DA's now, how many of these DA's, judges like, how many of them that are fighting Trump's agenda? The one that comes to mind for me is Judge Boasberg. With all the Alien Enemies act and the deportations, it just seems like they're fighting him at every turn. How many of these are funded by the Soros family?
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Matt Palumbo
So it's not the judges themselves, it is the groups that are bringing the lawsuits and they are shopping the lawsuits to judges that are Biden or Obama. There's not a single case of a right, you know, a judge appointed by anyone other than those two. And you notice with Boasberg, like, you know, it'll be a case in the middle of nowhere. They're going to Washington D.C. to bring the case. It doesn't make any sense. So it's a lot of judge shopping is how they're doing this. And it is human. I mean, it is every. It is. You know, the headline will be, you know, Soros Judge stops Trump order to stop Child trafficking. Like that. That is literally the headline was some of these.
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Hailey Caranilla
Right. It's crazy. So we talked about the, the border of it all and I think that's a big topic for people now. And I think there were what the media would call conspiracy theories. Back when Trump was president, the first time around, we had these migrant caravans. People were saying that George Soros, I mean, he certainly wants open borders, but did he fund the migrant caravans? Is there any truth to that?
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Matt Palumbo
Yes. He funded also a lot of legal organizations in Latin American countries to help these migrants, which is probably the most useful asset for them. I mean, we have this whole loop full where everyone just realized, yeah, we can just claim asylum and all of a sudden we get in and there's a million cases of George Funding NGOs in other countries doing the same thing. During the Syrian refugee crisis, during the, you know, when ISIS was still a thing and when the war was at its zenith, there were a lot. He was paying for groups to pass through Europe and all that. So yeah, it's new for him at all. His goal is to destabilize countries. And, you know, it's not like the middle school version of politics where you get to think, all right, well, we have different views, but ultimately we all want the same thing. It's no, he's doing things that are evil because they actually are.
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Hailey Caranilla
Yeah. I mean, let's talk about this destabilization idea. I mean, he funds a lot of defund the police movements. Then they push through the soft on crime days. They're funding division and chaos. So with their ultimate goal being destabilization, why.
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Matt Palumbo
I think to get left wing policies passed, you have to get, I don't know, people to feel a sort of helplessness or I just have a feeling that awfulness is the natural state. There is this thing where when people who live, liberals who live in major cities try to defend where they live and the crying, they almost sound like they're domestic abuse victims. Or you'll hear like, liberals defend the atrocious situation in New York subways where they'll say, you know, well, if you see, you know, a person tweaking out, don't make eye contact, put your headphones in, look down. And it's like it's a learned helplessness. And the left, it's just sort of this bigger issue with the left where everything with them has to be ugly. I mean, not to be too judgmental, but I went through thousands of websites of the group groups George funded. There was one attractive person out of 5,000 websites I went through. And I'm not like trying to be a joke. There is something with that every, even liberal architecture, like the brutalist look, the Soviet look. It is ugly. There is just something soul destroying up the left. Yeah. And it's, you know, I guess I could joke like I can't get in their heads because I'm not evil myself. But it all just sort of wraps together. And that, that is, I don't know, they have to create a miserable world for anyone to accept what they're selling. Because if they realize that the alternative that this past that they portray as this horrible, evil, racist thing actually is preferable, their Whole argument just disintegrates, goes.
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Hailey Caranilla
Away and they just want the public to be as dumb as possible so they can get away with more. But the concerning thing that I realized in reading some of your book is that George Soros is scary. But Alex Soros is younger, he's got a long life ahead of him and he's more radical than his father. So in what ways?
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Matt Palumbo
Well, you know, I would say that he at the minimum just continues everything his father is doing on autopilot. But he, you know, the DA so far that I found, I would argue are more radical than the ones his father funded. The climate groups he is funding are. And actually this is sort of a pattern with every group that he funds. They're almost all umbrella groups and that any, like, if we, you and I went to a left wing protest, I don't know why we would. But if we went to like a climate protest, that would be the main issue. But for some reason there would also be like a defund the police guy there or a Palestine guy.
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Hailey Caranilla
Yeah, they never have a cohesive.
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Matt Palumbo
There's nothing cohesion.
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Hailey Caranilla
It's just a Democrat movement. It's, it's a takedown Tesla protest. But then they've got the hands off my body sign and I'm like, what is happening here?
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Matt Palumbo
Yeah, the left's ideology is quite literally schizophrenic in that source. So, you know, it's just things like that. I mean, things like. And he will. The OSF does too, is they like to maintain a degree of plausible deniability even when it's completely pointless. So, you know, when they funded Alvin Bragg, he gave 500K to a PAC. This was George. Then the next day that pack gives a 500 grand to Alvin Bragg. And the OSF denied funding Alvin Bragg. They're like, no, he just funded the PAC that coincidentally gave the money the next day. But they lie about everything. I mean, I am going off on a tangent here, but I, you know, as part of, as part of writing a book and Alex, the responsible thing is to get his comment on everything. And they made it very difficult to get in touch with the guy. Probably sent 200 messages across multiple platforms, called the guy any person I could tweet I tried to get a hold of. But eventually his chief of staff got back to me when she found out I was writing a book about him. And I asked her an interview and she said he doesn't do interviews. And as she was telling me that he was doing an interview with New York, with New York magazine. So it's like, why not just say he doesn't like you, which is the true answer.
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Hailey Caranilla
Or we're nervous about what you're going to expose about him, therefore, we don't want his name attached to this book any more than it needs to be. Which is probably the truth there. But you also brought up something pretty eye opening, and it has to do with these companies that you mentioned before. And it's. It sort of seems like it's a shell company type situation where George Soros or Alex Soros, they fund these companies that don't even look like real companies. Their websites are totally defunct or just you can tell that they're poorly made, there's no traffic, but then they're giving them millions of dollars. So what's happening here, in your opinion?
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Matt Palumbo
This was a rabbit hole. I accidentally found myself going down. I. After I submitted the book, I thought, you know what, maybe I should do an appendix at the end where, you know, during Alex's first year in the role, I look at the biggest grants the OSF gave, and I think those most reflect, you know, what he supports. And I looked at things that are 500,000 doll and only in the US just to not bore people. But I was going through each and every one of them on ProPublica, which gives a breakdown of the financials, charts them, all of that. And it was in the ones where he gave the most amount of money that all the suspicious ones that didn't really seem to even have any activities were. So actually I brought up, let me just say I brought up a list in front of me to be comprehensive. All right, so there's one called Asian American Advocacy Fund. He got about $1.4 billion. The advocacy section says they're pro Palestine and pro Black Lives Matter.
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Hailey Caranilla
Even though this is an Asian group.
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Matt Palumbo
Asian American group. And there is, there is nothing on what they do. There is no news articles, their social media is not active. On their homepage, they have a video, a YouTube video that plays and it has 300 views, which means no one in years has even gone to the website. And there are, I have probably about a half dozen that are in that theme. There is one where he's given millions to them. And you go to the website and it's just a paragraph. That's not even like a mission statement. It's just like a generic progressive cliche. And in the background it's a bunch of people doing tai chi and then a donate button and then their address, the P.O. box.
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Hailey Caranilla
What the heck?
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Matt Palumbo
Yeah.
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Hailey Caranilla
I mean I know you don't really know the answer to this, but yes. Where. So they're funneling money, millions of dollars through these companies that seem to be defunct anyway. And I know that these people have billions of dollars with a B, so maybe millions with an M doesn't seem like a lot for them. But $10 million to whatever this tai chi, you know, random website. I mean where is this money actually going?
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Matt Palumbo
Well that's, I mean that's a million dollar question. There are some where there was one I found where he gave, I think it two was $13 million is more than 10 and it was to a supposed charity that then only spent 10% of that money and has never spent any of it since then. And it was just in the form of four grands. So it was just a pass through to then give the money to other people. And then I looked at too their financials and it was like so when you have a charity you have to report how many hours your leadership team, your you're bored and everyone works it all said one hour a week for every employee. And then their annual office expense was $104. So just weird stuff where you know the IRS should totally be looking into this.
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Hailey Caranilla
So then it's like why do you need these millions of dollars you're not even working.
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Matt Palumbo
Correct. And then even the ones where it's more clear, there was one I found where this was another in the 10 million plus category where I guess to give background, if you look at the financials for a charity, you know how much money coming in is much more variable than money going out. Like if you have a team of 10 people, they work 40 hours a week, you know how much money you're going to spend in a year but you're not guaranteed a certain number of donations. So when I looked at all these different groups the story was normally you have some years, you bring in more than you spend, you save the money, you have some years of fundraising, fall short, you draw down on those assets, etc. There was one I found where it was as if it tracked one for one that the second a dollar went in it was sent out somewhere else, meaning all the money coming in was already allocated for beforehand. And it was going to just array of various democrat consulting firms. And then those consulting firms were sending the money to other places and it was, I have no idea where it ends up but there is a shell game going on with this money and there would even be times where I would notice he was giving money to A group. And then the Tides foundation would also give money to that group. And the Tides foundation is mostly funded by Soros anyway. So it's like he's funding a group and then a group that he's funding is funding the group. So it's just this weird shell game going on. And, you know, some of it is plausible deniability, but, you know, the IRS really ought to look into it, because I'm not a qualified accountant. But there has to be something weird going on here.
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Hailey Caranilla
I mean, it seems like this is an episode of Ozark where they're like, washing the money and it's a money laundering operation. That's what it seems like to me. But then again, I don't work for the irs. So we'll let people who do this for a living take a look into it. But I want to talk about the USAID of it all, because George Soros I want to know, and Alex Soros I want to know what they have to do with all these funding these groups and all these things. I think Doge, the Department of Government Efficiency under Elon Musk and under the Trump administration has really lifted the curtain on some of the things that our government is paying for in countries that are across the world. And it's issues that the American people don't care about. And they're finding out for the first time, why is my money going to this? Why are we paying for this? Doge is cutting a lot of stuff, but are they finding, you know, a Soros connection here?
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Matt Palumbo
Yeah, there's a huge Soros connection. And it's always been there. The evidence. It's just people haven't really. They're looking until Elon Musk was talking about it. I'm using the Open Society foundation, put out a statement denying any involvement with usaid. But I mean, there, there's. I could go off a million tangents here. So. So OSF Soros started a college back in the 80s called Central European University. It currently has an outstanding grant for you from usaid. Well, it did until Elon Musk took over. So, like, they were taking USAID money and it being extremely public as they were denying it. And I did an article about this when it started making the news, and I pointed out that. And this is scrubbed from the website now that, you know, it's defunct, but I have the archive linked, I think, in an article and in the book where the Soros has been working with USAID since at least 1993. And you could, you know, the day before Elon Musk, you know, destroyed them. You could just search his name on the website and there was documents that would come up about him and about them funding certain training programs. So the main benefit Soros had with USAID was he could double over uncertain spending projects. So you know, he had a group in Albania called the East West Management institute. They gave $270 million to that group and it played a very large role in criminal justice in their so called justice reform in Albania, Constitutional reform. It ended up getting the Socialist party control over 90% of state institutions. It has since sanctioned a lot of critics of the party, like a lot of stuff like that. But the main thing, or yeah, I guess this is the main thing because this affects everything, is he was able to change the criteria under Obama for what you have to do to get USAID funding. So under George W. Bush there was a criteria. This is more for African funds that if you are going to take USAID money and be in Africa, well, they want to fight the AIDS epidemic. So you have to be against things like prostitution, things that would increase aids. George Soros sued USAID and free speech grounds to get that removed. It went up to the Supreme Court. He won. There was like an amended version that ended up losing. But. But he was trying to argue on free speech grounds. Well, you can't require, you know, contingencies on this aid. Fast forward less than five years under Obama and he influences the Obama administration to put start putting continuance contingencies on USAID funds. And these are things where you have to support things like gay marriage, the trans agenda, legalizing prostitution, legalizing drugs. So that sort of, you know, so it started being where if you wanted to take USAID money, you basically had to advance the source agenda even if your institution had nothing to do with it. So that's the biggest thing Soros did to usaid. And it's almost more. I guess you could argue it probably had a bigger impact on the money because it affected 100% of the grant.
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Hailey Caranilla
Right? Totally.
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Matt Palumbo
Yeah.
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Hailey Caranilla
Wow. I mean this is shocking. And it's. It. I kind of. We could go down a rabbit hole, I feel like. But based on this USAID conversation and you're saying that essentially the Soros family can buy influence from whatever politician and they just go along with it. I mean, they're that powerful. Alex Soros donated over 700, $700,000 to Biden's campaign. In 2020, he gets into the White House. So what kind of influence did that by the, the Soros family? When Biden Was in office.
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Matt Palumbo
Yeah. So even before Biden took office, when he had his transition teams for every agency, there was 17 people that had worked for the OSF that were part of those transition teams. So he had sort of his own moles or whatever you want to call them within the administration. But what really started to make headlines under Biden was Alex's 30 or so visits to the White House. And my friend Joe Vasquez and I, who I mentioned earlier, also did a study on this where we just looked at, you know, what happened leading up to these events, what happened after. And then, you know, in a third of the cases we couldn't really find anything too convincing, but in 70% of them there was some sort of climate related event going on, whether it being something being discussed, an amendment to a bill, a bill being proposed, something of that category. There was at least one meeting that Alex had with Biden himself. We found two in the logs, but we think one was incorrectly coding just an event they were both at together, like a White House breakfast or something. But, but we know for a fact he had one with Biden. And it was the same day where it was, I believe nine hours earlier or it was 10 in the morning, there was a White House event with the President of Kenya. Alex is the osf. The Open Society Foundation's headquarter in Africa is in Kenya. The OFS Open Society Foundation's president is from Kenya. And the by or Alex and this president were taking selfies with the guy. Alex was clearly, you know, at the event to be with the Kenya's president who he has a relationship with. So Alex then meets with Biden later on the day and, and a number of OSF linked organizations in Africa were praising the meetings and all of that. There was a signing of a number of deals between the US and Kenya's Ministry of Energy following this and investments in various climate related talks. And we go into a lot more detail on that and you know, why we think those two were connected. And well, there's a lot of evidence the two were connected. So, you know, there was at least one case where Alex was playing a role in climate deals with a foreign president who had a pretty bad reputation as well. And this was one thing to sort of help rehabilitate it while also helping Alex's agenda.
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Ollie Ad
Wow.
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Hailey Caranilla
It's crazy. And even, I mean he was young and I read also in your book that he would go with the Clintons to have meetings with other heads of state. It's like, I mean this runs deep. It's not just Biden. It's all Democrats. And basically where you see Democrats, the Soros is, are not far behind, which is what I want to get into next, which is they, they fund not only the DA's, they fund a lot of candidates, Democrat candidates. And Act Blue is a platform, a Democrat fundraising platform which a lot of these payments go through. And Congressman Daryl ISO wants Act Blue investigated per for potentially handling payments that support terrorism. There is a story, I mean, Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett is. She's at the head of a FEC or at the center, I should say, of an FEC investigation because there were people donating to her campaign and they didn't even know that they were donating. Like their names were attached to. I think it was like $600 worth of donations that they didn't make, but they were using other people's names. It was elder, almost like elder abuse. It was older people in Texas who didn't support Jasmine Crockett, but their names were attached to all this stuff. So Act Blue, there's corruption going on there. It seems to me like where there's Democrats and corruptions, like I said, the Soroses are not far behind. So is the family implicated in any of this as well?
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Matt Palumbo
So, I mean, there is definitely something going on there. I've seen some of those James o' Keeffe videos as well, where he visits people and asks them, did you donate an Act Blue? And they're perplexed. And a lot of their leadership, I think all of it is sort of jumped ship. So there's something, there's definitely something going on there. Soros had made an investment in the company, but not he didn't donate through the platform. So it would be like buying stock and GoFundMe versus donate to someone's campaign. But yeah, he is financially linked to the company. And Elon Musk, I guess sort of clarify something he was saying. I think he said that there were Soros had funded five companies on ActBlue that were involved in the Tesla vandalism. There was one, it was called Indivisible Project. But he's correct that at least one of them was. I mean, he kind of oversold the case. But it is true that Soros is playing a role in these attacks.
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Hailey Caranilla
Wow. I mean, you brought up Elon Musk, I kind of want to talk about because the Soros is, are kind of this massively wealthy family on the left. And then on the right we have Elon Musk. I'm not saying that they're comparable, but they're wealthy people. And Elon Musk certainly now is getting involved in politics in a bigger way than he ever had before. And Alex Soros threw a lot of money into that Wisconsin Supreme Court race. Elon Musk did the same thing. He went to Wisconsin, he was doing events. That was when he had the big cheese head on his head. And he put a lot of money into that as well. Can Elon Musk or other big Republican donors keep up with the Soros's?
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Matt Palumbo
I mean, yeah, I think so, because, you know, a lot of their funding is more for social causes versus politicians. Although obviously, you know, he put a ton of money in that Wisconsin race. Must put a ton. Soros did unfortunately win, although there was actually a lot of other high profile leftists there. But the thing is, we're not going to win 100% even if we go head to head. But George Soros has $7 billion. If you include his total net worth from his investment holdings and everything, the OSF has around $25 billion in assets or up to 32 billion. Elon Musk could lose $100 billion today and it would have no difference in his standard of life at all. Which is an insane thought, of course, but, you know, it can be matched. I would say our Soros is better than our, than their Soros. And, you know, I don't think it's at all hypocritical to complain about money in politics and then be okay with Elon doing it, because we're not comparing apples here. We're, we're, it's, it's a big money to fund evil versus big money to fund good. It's not. Just because money is, you know, a common thing here does not mean it's hypocritical.
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Hailey Caranilla
Right? Yeah, I know that the Soros family, they're Jewish, they're not religious. But it's interesting, I. A lot of these protests, there's pro Palestine, pro Hamas protests that are popping up all over college campuses. Where does the Soros family stand on the Israel Palestine issue? And are they funding both sides of these protests? In a way.
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Matt Palumbo
So George, in 2007, after Hamas assumed power, wrote an article calling on the US to negotiate with Hamas, which he portrayed as a democratically elected government. So that's where he's at, Alex. I mean, he did. I don't even know what to call this kind of response when you do the bare minimum of social media, like he denounced October 7th. But, you know, it's like saying you're Sad that a famous person died. Like it's pretty easy to type that. It's like the bare minimum you're required to do. He has said he's for a two state solution, but also criticized Netanyahu. So he is to the right of his father on the issue in terms of rhetoric. But if you look at all the campus groups that are funding these protests, those are still going on the Open Society, you, Open Society University Network, which is a collection of universities that Soros is in partnership with, which, you know, now Alex is at the helm of. They are partnered with Al Quds University, which Islamic Jihad has had rallies on their campus where they do Nazi salutes. And the campus, the faculty has defended it. They have had Martyrs Day events where they celebrate people who have killed Jewish people. And unless Alex is just not aware of what his own organization is doing and hasn't gotten around to distancing himself from them or defunding them, I have to assume that the guy is complicit. I mean, in any administration and, you know, the buck stops with, with the President. I think it's the same with him.
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Hailey Caranilla
Right. I want to get into his relationship with Huma Abedin, which I totally forgot that they were dating. And when they did that, was it the New York Magazine or New Yorker? We have it here. So we're going to pull up this photo. It is so strange. I mean, he was busy doing this. This is why he couldn't give you a statement for your book about him. Because he was posing for this. What was it called? Like the living rooms of influential New Yorkers or something like that. Okay. They're certainly influential New Yorkers. I don't know if I'm gonna get canceled for this, but I feel like he's doing his best Stephen Hawking impersonation. Like, why does he look like that?
- [36:46]
Matt Palumbo
I don't know, like crossed legs that way. Never really come across good. I don't know, He's. He's such a dork. I feel bad.
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Hailey Caranilla
Well, have you ever. They have Huma standing up and he's sitting down, which is definitely like a power play kind of thing. Like they want him, you know, in her shadow a little bit, but they seem to be this like Democrat match made in hell.
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Matt Palumbo
I mean, for her, it's a hell of an upgrade. I wrong. I mean, interestingly enough. But listen, I mean, she's been through a lot. I guess to settle at her, you know, decide I'll take the money at this point versus risking another Anthony Weiner fiasco.
- [37:23]
Hailey Caranilla
Right.
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Matt Palumbo
Yeah, and she'll stick around. I mean, if you stuck around for wiener through like 12 different identical scandals. I guess good for Alex. I don't know. When I was talking to their chief of staff and trying to get an interview, I pretended to be really happy for him.
- [37:36]
Hailey Caranilla
Of course.
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Matt Palumbo
Yeah.
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Hailey Caranilla
So who do you think Alex Soros wants to be the next face of the Democrat Party? Because as you know, they're kind of floundering right now. They don't really have a new leader. I mean, some polls point to aoc, but who do you think? I mean, it seems like he'll have power over anyone, whoever it is. But who do you think he wants in office?
- [37:59]
Matt Palumbo
So I'm not joking when I say this, but he posted a photo with Jasmine Crockett where he called her the future of the party.
- [38:07]
Hailey Caranilla
Oh.
- [38:08]
Matt Palumbo
So I agree with his analysis 1,000% on this.
- [38:14]
Hailey Caranilla
Yeah. Let's do it. 20, 28, baby. Let's do it. Yeah. I, I, all of this is fascinating and you've done such great research. So we're gonna do scrolling time together. But before we do that, I want to have you, I want to give you the floor, tell people when the book comes out, where they can pre order it, where can people find it, and where, where can they find you?
- [38:37]
Matt Palumbo
So I'm on Twitter @MattPolumbo12, although no one sees my tweets for some reason. But if you want to try to see if they'll show up, I guess go ahead and follow me there. The book is called the Air Inside the Not so Secret Network of Al, which I added the not so because he is basically mocking us or bragging about his influence, unlike his father, who wanted to be in the shadow. It'll be out in December. Although I got a special deal for anyone watching this. If anyone within a day of watching this sends me a tweet of a photo of like their purchase on Amazon, like, you know, that you just bought, you know, the book. Send your email and then I'll send you a free PDF version of the one on George Soros so you can read that before receiving this one. So I, I think it's a good, it's two books for 20 bucks. Very, very good deal.
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Hailey Caranilla
That's a good deal. And it's shock, full of research, really good research. There's Matt palumbo. So Matt Palumbo, 12, you tweeted him when you buy this book and he'll give you the two for one deal. So that's awesome. And on that note, let's get into sc. Well, I had a call with Matt earlier this week because we were talking about this interview and I wanted to make sure that I, you know, I went through the book and we, we hit on all the important things. And I asked Matt, I said, do you want to stick around for scrolling time? It's this segment where I scroll through TikTok. And he was like, this is what I do with my wife in bed at night.
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Matt Palumbo
Yeah.
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Hailey Caranilla
So you're prepped and ready for scrolling time, which I love. So this one I actually found on Instagram, but this is a post that the Washington Post opinion page put up, and it's about birth rates. So I want to get into this. Let's watch this.
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Unknown Speaker
First, 39% of single men say they're less likely to think about dating a feminist. Meanwhile, 73% of college educated single women say they're less likely to date a Trump supporter. Why are young people having fewer children? I have a theory. Young men and young women have completely different worldviews. Young men and young women are getting totally different types of news, information, and entertainment. In the lead up to the 2024 election, consistently young women told me that reproductive health care access and abortion rights were top of mind for young men. It wasn't so much of an issue. Young men have moved to the right or just feel like they don't identify with either party at all. Some of these young men have said that. That when it comes to dating life, they feel they have to camouflage their beliefs. Something is changing both in how young women view their own lives, but also how they relate to men. For maybe the first time in American history, the choice to not have kids has become much less stigmatized. This White House is very concerned with young people's baby making.
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Matt Palumbo
I want more babies in the United States of America.
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Unknown Speaker
I'm not sure a $5,000 baby bonus is going to address any of this.
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Hailey Caranilla
Okay, so there's a lot to unpack here. I did a dating episode with my friend Mary Margaret a few weeks ago, and we went into all the dating things. But it is interesting because online people are talking about this, like, male loneliness epidemic. And also we're seeing birth rates plummet. I think it's because of the economy. But it is an interesting point that if women are moving further to the left and men are moving further to the right, is anyone going to meet in the middle?
- [42:07]
Matt Palumbo
That is definitely 8% of it. Now, this is one of those issues where I don't think I know what the reason is, but I just have Certain ideas, what it isn't and that like. So my issue with the economic aspect would be that this low birth rate phenomenon is mainly in the richest countries. It's generally in the, in the western world plus Asia and then within the countries themselves, it's the lowest. It's the people who can afford to have kids the least that are having the most kids for some reason. So it's like this weird inversion of what you would expect when common sense would suggest that. And even in countries where they have a cradle to grave welfare state, like in Scandinavia, it's the same birth rate as it is here. Even in countries like Hungary or Poland where the right wing populist governments invest a ton of money in pro family welfare policies. It's it, it boosts it, but not by a significant margin. So I, I have no idea what it is. I mean, it would I guess make sense to say there's been a shift in values for sure. I just don't get how that happens in the developed world all at once at the same time. I guess it's above my pay grade. But no, the politics definitely is making a difference. And my suggestion to men would be just be the nut job you are. Don't try to hide it. There's really. It's going to come out eventually, so what's the point?
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Hailey Caranilla
Totally. It's also so disingenuous. I'm on dating apps, unfortunately, and a lot of men are. They say that they're conservative, but then they say that they have like he him. They have their pronouns in their bio and I'm like, there's no way that you're conservative and you're a he him. I mean, obviously you're a he him, but why would you put it in your pronouns? It's like unspoken or it should be unspoken. Then I, I do find that a lot of men say that they're moderate and I feel like in this day and age no one's moder it.
- [43:58]
Matt Palumbo
No. Did you watch? I also only know this because I watched it with my wife. By the way, did you watch the last season of Love is Blind?
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Hailey Caranilla
No, but I.
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Matt Palumbo
All right, so there was one girl.
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Hailey Caranilla
I saw the second to last one. And politics always rears its ugly head in this, this show. But tell me about last season.
- [44:16]
Matt Palumbo
There was one where, I mean, the girl was trying to inquire about the guy's politics and he just made it obvious he was a Republican and didn't want to say so she asked him something like, like where do you stand on black Lives matter. But I think she phrased it awkwardly, like, where do you stand on black lives? And he says, I don't have an opinion. And it was just this awkward bit of television. But I'm like, if you're gonna answer wishy washy to even the incorrectly phrased version of that question, which, you know, could come across a little wrong. I don't even know if it's necessarily the politics, the right wing politics that turned the girl off. I feel like it was more that he wouldn't own his own beliefs. Like, he was also pressed on, like, you know, what are the politics of your church? And he would always be evasive and say he didn't know, but you could just Google the denomination, and they're a conservative group. And he did the whole, like, I'm fiscally conservative, socially liberal, which makes you look like a weakling, to be honest. But I don't know. So I guess that's my secondary advice to men, is if. If the woman can tell that you're trying to hide who you are to try to please her, that's worse than just coming out and saying, this is what I believe. Here's what I believe, 100%.
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Hailey Caranilla
Speaking of hiding, this next video is a trans person. It's a guy becoming a woman. Obviously, that you can't become a woman, but you know what I mean. Attempting, and he claims to understand women's bodies. Watch this.
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Unknown Speaker
As someone who has lived 27 years with testosterone coursing through my veins and has now gotten, like, the littlest taste of estrogen, I. Trans women, I've been in injecting estrogen into my literal thigh muscle for two months. I'm gonna go ahead and say it. This weight loss game, way harder for women. Way harder for women. Because I have never been this hungry in my entire life while simultaneously being this exhausted, while simultaneously having this level of sweet cravings every day of my life. Summer, body out the window. She's gone. That's a fever dream at this point. Oh, girlies. I'm just letting you know you're right.
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Matt Palumbo
Right.
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Unknown Speaker
It's like, way harder for you. I promise.
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Hailey Caranilla
I mean, listen, huh? I'm. I'm exhausted. I have sweet cravings. But I don't think he has any idea what I go through on a daily basis. It's funny how trans men, or trans women, they still. They have that mansplaining gene that doesn't go away even if you take all the hormones.
- [46:50]
Matt Palumbo
No. It always sounds like they're mocking women when they do these sort of videos. Did you ever see the one of.
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Hailey Caranilla
The guy, the Dylan Mulvaney, when he's like, oh, I'm popping my Xanax and I'm going shopping and I'm on my antidepressants and I'm doing my hair and I'm doing my nails and I'm wearing my high heels and that's, that's all that there is to womanhood. It's just shopping and popping pills.
- [47:10]
Matt Palumbo
Apparently it just, it destroys the whole feminist intersectionality argument where they'd say things like, well, you're a man, so you could never understand a woman's perspective. And I'm like, apparently, unless I just say I am one and then magically I can. Nothing makes any sense. And yeah, I don't know, it seems like a self inflicted problem for this guy though. There, I think there is truth though in that I think women do have slower metabolisms than men. But this has nothing to do with what he was talking about, right?
- [47:38]
Hailey Caranilla
And there are so many different differences between men and women. Women apparently need more sleep and there's, you know, but, but I don't think he's been on hormones for however long and now he's, he's an expert on what it is to be a woman, which I just found funny. But the world is going crazy. And there are liberal parents and there are Republican parents. This is a parody of both of those. Watch.
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Unknown Speaker
You got a C in science.
- [48:04]
Hailey Caranilla
That's totally okay.
- [48:06]
Unknown Speaker
School is hard and grades are a.
- [48:07]
Hailey Caranilla
Social construct, just like gender.
- [48:09]
Unknown Speaker
And if you're gay, that's okay.
- [48:11]
Matt Palumbo
Okay.
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Hailey Caranilla
Or better yet, trans.
- [48:12]
Unknown Speaker
Oh my God, yes. Now we're talking. I'll call Dr. Jaboinki, we'll set up a time for the appointment.
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Go.
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Matt Palumbo
Snip, snip, easy peasy.
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Unknown Speaker
Our friends are gonna be so jealous.
- [48:20]
Matt Palumbo
Oh my God.
- [48:20]
Unknown Speaker
Trans kid, trans kid, trans kid. Gay them.
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Hailey Caranilla
Gay them.
- [48:26]
Unknown Speaker
You got a C in math.
- [48:28]
Hailey Caranilla
With these kinds of grades, you'll wrong.
- [48:30]
Unknown Speaker
To be poor or worse, gay.
- [48:32]
Hailey Caranilla
A gay son. What will our friends think?
- [48:35]
Unknown Speaker
That's it. I'm calling the pastor down here. You're getting conversion therapy. I will not raise a gay son. Oh, he can't be gay.
- [48:43]
Hailey Caranilla
All right. These are obviously very extreme versions of what a liberal parent or a conservative parent is. But I, I'll let you answer this. Which one do you think is more accurate?
- [48:57]
Matt Palumbo
I mean, they're both accurate in their own little way. I mean, I mean, I think I guess the right wing one, but for, but it's good, you know, it's not like the worst thing in the world. The. Although. Actually, you know what, I'll take that back. There was a very brilliant observation in the, in the liberal one in that the trans kid is a status symbol 100 social currency. Yeah. Bill Maher spoke once where he was at a dinner with a bunch of liberals. So it's probably the only people he hangs out with. But he said there was multiple trans kids and they would just like check in on, wow, what's your trans kid up to? And, and if you look at two celebrities like @ the next Oscars, they're gonna have to have like a best trans kid category at this point.
- [49:39]
Hailey Caranilla
Seriously. I mean it's Megan Fox's kid is.
- [49:42]
Matt Palumbo
Isn't it four.
- [49:43]
Hailey Caranilla
All three of them are transitioning. They're the different gender obviously. We saw Angelino Jolie and Brad Pitt daughter. Yeah. Is it Dwayne Wade and Gabrielle Union. Their son is a girl.
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Matt Palumbo
It's trying to be either way. Yeah.
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Hailey Caranilla
Either way they're flip flopping. They're gender bending as I like to say. But it is. It's become not only social currency, but it's been a trend and I think once Hollywood adopts it, people who don't really think for themselves, they just do the same thing. But anyway, I thought that that was funny. Matt, thank you so much for sticking around for scrolling time. I had so much fun. But I just want you to plug your book one more time for people. Where can they find it?
- [50:31]
Matt Palumbo
It the air. It's on Amazon.com I think I might have screwed up with the title because there's a lot of books called the Air. So I think it's currently buried a little bit. But if you search Matt Palumbo or go to my Twitter where I never shut up about the book, you'll find a copy there and I'm sure you'll have a link in the description. Probably Right.
- [50:51]
Hailey Caranilla
Amazing. Matt, thank you so much for joining Nightly Scroll.
- [50:54]
Matt Palumbo
My pleasure.