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On this episode of the Nightly Scroll: Madison Cawthorn joins the show to discuss the benefits of homeschooling, the chaos in Minnesota, the infighting in the conservative movement, and much more.
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Welcome in a Nightly Scroll. I am Hailey Karenia. You might be watching on X or on Facebook right now. If you are, you're only going to get a little bit of the show. So come on over to Rumble. We are rumble exclusive rumble.com Haley will bring you to the Bondino Report Channel. That is the only place you can watch Nightly scroll in full. And you are not going to want to miss a second of this interview. Okay? My next guest joined me just a few months ago when I hosted Vince. And I figured, well, it's time for him to join Nightly Scroll. And he's so lucky. He doesn't even know how lucky he is. There's only going to be a few guests that can say that they can join Nightly scroll because starting February 2nd, we're moving to noon and Nightly scroll goes away. So this is a club that not everyone gets to be a part of. Nightly scroll in just two weeks is going to be vintage. So Nightly scroll is going to be scrolling with Haley at noon. So stay tuned for that. Great changes coming in just a few weeks. But Madison Cawthorne, he's joining me now. He represented North Carolina's 11th district until 2022. Now he's throwing his hat in the ring in Florida's 19th district. We're going to be talking about Minnesota craziness and why we're grateful to live in Florida, what President Trump's plans are with Venezuela, Greenland and what that means for us here at home and how to get Republicans riled up before the midterms and so much more. Put your phones on. Do not disturb. Nightly scroll starts now. Hey, Madison, thank you so much for joining me.
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B
So I'm, we're in an elite club here. I didn't realize how lucky I was.
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A
Exactly. Yes. One of the few that can say that they've been a guest on Nightly Scroll. So congratulations and of course, thank you for joining me. I love our conversations. And I was thinking the last time that I talked to you on Vince, I never asked you, you know, how you got into politics so early. What inspired you?
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B
Yeah, that's a really great question. So, one, I would like to credit my parents and my family for a lot of, you know, how I was raised. I was homeschooled all the way through. But more importantly, I was classically educated. And, you know, there's one, a great quote from one of the greatest philosophers in all of history and says you can either be involved in politics or be damned to be ruled by lesser men. And that's that just really Kind of resonated with me. And so when I was 24 years old, I had started my own business, things were going well. And when the congressman that had was in my seat that I had taken over in North Carolina, left to be chief of staff to Donald Trump, the seat was wide open. Lots of people threw their hat into a ring. I think it was a 13 way primary. But when I started talking to people and I just was asking these, you know, people from, you know, all sorts of different generations, I was like, you know, really, how do you feel about the fact? Because Remember, this is 2020, you know, Covid really hadn't broken out at this point, the world, it was 2019. When we were really thinking about it, Covid hadn't broken out yet. You know, Black Lives Matter hadn't broken out yet. So the entire political spectrum was just so different than it is now today. I mean, now we can sit here and say that Tim Walls is retarded. If you said that in 2019, in my first race, that would have been global news. Yeah. And so, you know, but when I started talking to these people and they had their pleated pants and tassel loafers, and for many, being in Congress, going to be the best job they've ever had. And they never wanted to get rid of it or for a lot. Most of them, they just wanted to live out their glory days, you know, as having a cap off their, you know, what they call an immaculate career, as being a member of Congress, because they like the notoriety of that. And so when I started asking them, hey, how do you feel about social media algorithms being different in North America? They are in Southeast Asia, you know, in Southeast Asia, if you want to go viral, you have to do something with stem, you have to do something both hardcore masculinity, patriotism, honoring your heritage, all of these things. And, and it's because they're trying to raise a nation of warriors to rival the global power system that's in place now, which is the United States. Whereas in America it's totally different. And so I would ask them how they felt about these algorithms and they would give ridiculous answers like, well, you know, algorithms and math and science, they're all the same basically, wherever you are on the world. So it should be the same. I don't really see why that's an issue. And I just would realize that there was no chance of even explaining to these people what was at stake. The entire hearts and minds of the next generation were being warped and taken. I mean, you look at the millennial generation and how ridiculously liberal and communist they are. Then you look at what Gen Z is like now. They wanted Gen Z to be an extreme version of the liberals we had from the millennial generation. And I think if young patriots specifically, you know, Donald Trump hadn't gotten involved in 2016, then we would not have had so many young patriots getting on the scene. We don't have Charlie Kirk being at the position that he was to really be able to say, hey guys, the kids okay, well, our country's on fire. If we don't fix it now, things are going to go wrong. And I'll tell you, going into Congress with that kind of a mindset and realizing how, you know, damned the next generation was, whether it's going to be with debt, quantitative easing, the lack of our dollars, being able to buy many things, the inability to be able to buy a home or find a good paying job. You know, many people are like, well, hey, when you get to Congress your first time, you don't want to rock the boat. You don't want things to go too bad. And I would look at these people and say, what are you thinking? The boat is sinking. We have to do something now. We need to build a new boat. And so that's why I got involved.
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A
I love that. I think it's so cool. And you mentioned you were homeschooled all the way through.
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B
All the way through.
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A
I didn't know that about you. And I only know one family personally that I grew up with. This was years ago that was homeschooled. Like it wasn't just, it wasn't common from, from where I was from. And then I feel like homeschool has totally exploded now where it's so much more popular. School choice has become a policy platform for many Republicans. If you want to send your kids to a public school and you live in a good area, that's great. Not a lot of people can say that. So you want to have the choice to send your kid to another school, a charter school or private school or Christian school, or do it yourself. Right. So what was that like? I feel like this is fascinating to me. I remember watching Mean Girls that came out in 2004 and they called the homeschool kids, you know, homeschool jungle freaks. They're all weird, right? But you're not weird. The kids that I grew up with that were homeschooled, they're not weird. They all turned out great. And what was that like for you?
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Yeah, so I, in my mind, when you meet someone who is, you know, above the age of 20 years old and, you know, up and beyond. If you ever get, and they were homeschooled all the way through, if you ever get to meet their parents, I mean, you should just really be inspired by them and their bravery. Because, you know, being homeschooled, you know, back in the early 90s and the early 2000s, it was not a popular thing. It was not something that many people did. And, you know, I can speak from experience. You know, people within my family were attacking my mom, saying, well, you can't do that to your kids. I don't think you don't. You know, they were encouraging me and my brother being like, well, don't you want to be able to get on a school bus and go to school with your friends and all of these things? You know, fast forward 24 years, I'm the youngest member of Congress ever elected in U.S. history. And you know, all of a sudden, you know, when I'm hiring staff, you know, I'd be going through, I see that, oh, they have, you know, a 4.0 grade point average, all of these things. And then I have to start asking about what their education was, trying to figure out what their values were. And I was always just kind of a blank book. I didn't really know what I was going to get. But if I saw a kid was homeschooled, oh, I know, okay. This person's a self starter. They weren't taught how to memorize things and be factory workers and how to just meet things on a good timeline. But what they were taught is the necessity to learn to be able to push yourself, to be able to keep yourself committed to a time schedule, not have to be micromanaged at all times. And so the parents who are doing this in the early 2000s, my hat is off to them. You know, my mother is the bravest, wisest woman I've ever met in my entire life. And you know, she, she's responsible for many of the skills I have, whether it's speaking or smiling or being able to do whatever it is that, you know, I, I, I've been able to do in my life. She's incredible. You know, she's actually right behind the camera I'm looking at right now. So I'm really happy to have her.
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C
Down here in Florida.
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B
She's escaping the cold. But I'll tell you, you know, being homeschooled gives you such a different perspective on things. I feel like so many people who went to public school or people who went to traditional colleges like that. There was so much brainwashing that happened. And one, I think that noble people that were born in the 90s who you come out and say, oh, actually I was homeschooled. That's the reason I think differently or I act differently, or I have these certain beliefs and habits that make me a better person that certainly encouraged people to do it. You know, I like to think that me getting elected to congress at such a young age encouraged people to be like, oh, being homeschooled can actually lead to success. But what I think the real crux of it was was Covid, you sent all these children back home, they started doing at home learning and the parents started to see the absolute trash. And I know that this is a broadcast social. I'm not going to say what I really want to say about this.
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A
Oh, you can say whatever you want to say. Sometimes I really let it rip here.
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B
Bullshit woke policies into the mind.
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C
Young children.
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B
When you are trying to make a kid read about fellatio between a young boy and an older man, that was required reading in so many school districts. When you are trying to force people to understand critical race theory. I mean, Haley, seriously, think about it. Most of the kids born in the 90s were set up to be the most racially blind people the world had ever known. But then in 2008, you get, you know, Barack Obama, Barack Hussein Obama is elected to the White House. You know, one he goes on to, you know, confirm, you know, gay marriage. That's not really my fight. I say, you know, if you're LG and B, I'm good with that. Past that you're really weird and you should figure your life out. But you know that that's not the fight that I'm talking about here. What I'm talking about is when Barack Obama instituted critical race theory and encouraged that through the federal Department of Education and forced that into everyone's mind, where now racial divisions is on everybody's mind. You. I mean, people always are like, oh, yeah, well, you know, I don't know if I can say this, and I don't know if we can hang out. These people, we need to consider all these things. They really ruined the recipe they had created. You know, after the civil rights movement in the world that was going to be, you know, and whether you like Martin Luther King or not, you know, you. So many people wanted to be judged by their character and not the color of their skin, the content of the character. That's something that I think we were set up to do. But unfortunately, Barack Obama, through critical race theory, was able to brainwash an entire generation. And now you take a step back. I actually want to give a policy position on this no president. I don't care if he's on our side. The greatest, whether the president was Charlie Kirk. I do not want any president to be able to have the federal Department of Education to mandate what children learn all across this country. That is, if you send your children to the state or if you send your children to Roman schools, don't be surprised when they return as Romans. It's propaganda machines they've created. So I genuinely believe that the federal Department of Education should be completely dismantled. Send the power of what your children need to learn by back to the states. Because really think about it. I mean, each of our state is. Functions almost as a different country. I mean, you put America over the top, you know, overlaid over Europe, you realize how giant our country is. And you cannot tell me that people in Washington D.C. 402,000 miles, however far they are from people in, you know, who grew up in citrus farming in Florida, need to learn the exact same things that people inside of Chicago in the Rust Belt need to learn versus what people in Washington state need to learn. It needs to be tailored to what the students need. And, and if you want to have good schools, that means you need to have good capitalist policies that explode your entire economy. And so it just really benefits yourself to have states control their own education because then you can look and be like, wow, the schools in California are really bad. I wonder why that is. Oh, it's because they don't have any money because they waste it on reparations.
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Yeah, reparations and health care for illegals and, and all that thing, all that stuff. But yeah, you make a great point that, you know, the, this, the Department of Education, it's pretty unnecessary and it doesn't make sense to have, you know, just this like, standard for everyone when we're not all the. We're not one size fits all or one country. But we live. You know, our country is huge. And these places, these states are massively different in so many ways. And you know, you, you mentioned that you were the youngest member of Congress ever elected, which is so cool. But I wanted to ask you because you're running again this time in Florida, and you are very young still. Do you believe in term limits or do you want to die in Congress like some of your colleagues?
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Well, one, I will tell you, anybody who says Congress is the best job in the world they are. I don't know what kind of terrible life they live prior to this. You know, when I first got to Congress.
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A
They're making a lot of money.
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B
Yeah. Oh, the insider trading, Let me tell you, they all know how to get, get that done, both sides of the aisle. But no. So I'll tell you, my genuine belief is that term limits, you know, people, there's a constitutional argument here. People say, well, we do have terminals called elections, but unfortunately, institutionalized power that you get. Let's say you're on the Ways and Means Committee or you're on the Appropriations Committee. I swear you will have literally infinite money to defend yourself because every time your pen touches paper inside the committee room, you are sending billions and billions of dollars to other places. So if someone's getting $2 billion appropriated to, you know, put hand sanitizer machines inside of C130s, you don't think they're going to be willing to put $100 million into a super PAC for a congressional race. And you will win with $100 million. I don't care if you're brain dead. You see, Nancy Pelosi got elected over and over again. You see, Maxine Waters got elected over and over again. And so my idea, I do like the idea of term limits, but I will say I have one caveat on that. The term limits also must be applied to bureaucrats. Now I think that, you know, federal agencies should not have nearly the amount of power they have. They should be totally rolled back. But until it happens, really the problem we have in Washington D.C. is that we have all these political appointees from the executive branch, but it is the bureaucrats, the deep state, who are trying to destroy the lives of common Americans. Because unfortunately, the people inside of Washington DC's Beltway, they think that everybody else is stupid. They think that, oh my gosh, these people are so bad. They are also liberal minded. And so I think that if we have term limits on members of Congress and on the Senate, they also need to be on bureaucrats because these people gain too much power and then we can never get rid of them.
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Great point. Great, great point. I never even really thought about that. But yes, term limits for, for everyone. And then this system can actually work the way it's intended to work. And we don't have people that are, you know, dying in Congress like we've seen far too many times or people getting horribly sick in Congress and having to drop out. It's just like, oh my God, what do you do? Why are you 80 years old, working. Anyway, you know, you have to question these people want to do that.
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B
But now, Haley, I'll tell you, this is going to be a kind of ridiculous statement for me to make, but I don't want to see someone who has to. If they stand up at the podium, they're just sitting there shaking, and then they have to be wheeled out by a helper. Now, I realize I'm in a wheelchair, so that's a weird thing for me to attack. Unfortunately, I saw so many people, it looked like they were doped up just enough to go give a ridiculous, tyrannical speech. And then they collapsed into the wheelchair, and they were just rolled off the thing. And so, you know, I challenge any one of those guys to a wheelchair race, I guarantee I win. If I do, you have to drop out.
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All right. If you do a wheelchair race with any of those people, we're airing it live, exclusively on Nightly Scroll. I want in on that.
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B
And I tell you, this one's a friend of mine. But to Governor Abbott. Great, great Texas governor, if he ever wants to race, that would be one. I'm not sure I could win, but I'm down. We'll raise money for charity.
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A
Yeah, I want to bet on that. For sure. Poly Market is going to be lit up. But I want to talk about Florida. Right, because you were living in California. I'm sorry, North Carolina. You live in Florida now. We both live in Florida. It's great, right? And what's great about Florida is that we will never be Minnesota. And Minnesota is just become a national embarrassment at this point. Every day I see a headline or a clip from Tim Walls, and I'm thinking how this is in America. Like, this is our country. We share a country with these people. But the good thing about Florida is that if you are a protester and you block the road or anything like that, I mean, Floridians have the right to just knock them dead. So what's your take on everything happening in Minnesota?
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B
So I'll tell you one. Nick Shirley is an absolute hero. He's such a young man. I think he's 23 years old, and he is uncovering things that legacy media has not been able to find. You know, he uncovered $8 billion plus of fraud with just one YouTube video. I think it's absolutely incredible. But obviously, anytime you start messing with $8 billion, some people are going to be very upset about that, and they will unleash everything they can to try and disrupt the thing, the process that is going to rob them of billions of dollars in revenue. And so when you're seeing all of these ridiculous riots that are going on inside of Minnesota, when you see Don, this infuriates me. When you see Don Lemon leading a charge of riders to go into a church to harass the parishioners, to harass these Christians that are trying to have time with the Lord and the Holy Spirit, I will say, thank God he wasn't in the south, because that would not have gone well. And as you're seeing all these protests go on inside of Minnesota, you see our cops being beaten, you see someone trying to run over an ICE officer, you see them breaking into, you know, DHS vehicles and stealing automatic rifles. Although they believe in gun control, you know, I really can understand why Democrats believe so hard in gun control, because.
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C
I see what they do when they.
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Actually do get guns. They are terrible, terrible people who are willing to use political violence. And that's ridiculous. Now, you make. Contrast that with what goes on inside the state of Florida. People can say, well, you don't have seasonal depression down here. It's always warm, Things are great, everything's green. You know, the people are more attractive, everybody's healthier. You know, maybe that's the reason people aren't going crazy, but I have a different take. The reason everybody in the south is so good at putting their hand up on the steering wheel and giving their little wave is because everybody is armed. I believe that an armed society is a polite society. And if you want to come try and do a riot that's going to destroy our towns here in the south, you want to come try and destroy our properties and attack our churches. We do not shoot rubber bullets inside of Florida.
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A
Right. And you know that song, the Jason Aldean song? Try that in a small town. It's so true.
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B
Exactly right.
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It is so true. Because, you know, you don't know who's on that. You don't want to start a little road rage incident. You don't know if that person's strapped or not. And when you live in a. A constitutional carry state, you know, you don't want to f around and find out. That's. That's a dangerous game to play. But a lot of these protesters, right, they are really out there. Obviously, you know, they're Trump deranged. Right. This isn't even really anti ice. That's what they're saying. But they had no issue with ICE under Obama or under Biden or under any of these other Democrat. I mean, ICE has been around since 2003. And they are only having a problem with it now because of Trump. And, you know, they're going to hate everything that Trump does. Right. We're a year into his second term now. He's championed things like energy independence, grocery prices coming down, the border being secured, of course, but also getting our military back to business, you know, focusing on missions at hand, not DEI and some other woke stuff. And speaking of the missions at hand, you know, recently we just kidnapped the Venezuelan dictator Maduro out of his bed in the middle of the night, and, you know, we brought him to New York for a trial. I mean, this is what we voted for, right? I mean, we voted for America to be back in a big way, and we are. And a lot of that is our military being the biggest, baddest military in the world. So what does this mean? What is this transition going to go on in Venezuela? How is that going to go? And what does this mean for us here at home?
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Absolutely. So this is something that I actually care a lot about. This is a big reason that I got involved in politics, because I hated the way that we did foreign policy, especially under the Cheney era. I don't even call it the Bush era was the Cheney era. And as you saw, we got involved in forever wars. And so many people on the conservative right, we voted for Donald Trump and championed him and fought for him because he promised us no more forever wars. And then you saw some of the people on the right who were just, you know, they are there for clickbait. They said, you know, Trump's turned on us. He's getting us involved in another war. Listen, it was 6 minutes and 34 seconds. My cousin was piloting the USS Iwo Jima. It was an amazing operation of the greatest operators the world has ever known. 6 minutes and 34 seconds for us to go secure 50 billion barrels of oil. 50 million barrels of oil to kidnap a president who is poisoning and killing our citizens. That is exactly what I voted for. And this is not saying that I think we should go and conquer all these other nations, but I believe in the Roosevelt Corollary, which basically states if it is in the Western Hemisphere, it is under the protectorate and the direction of the United States of America. And that's where I think that we really need to focus on. You think of what we have in all of the Americas. We have more energy resources than any anywhere else in the world. We have more rare earth minerals in the Western Hemisphere than anywhere else in the world. Almost everyone south of the border is either Catholic or Some form of a Christian. And so I don't think that we should see these people as our enemies. I'm not saying that we should make them Americans, but I'm saying we should take an interest in our next door neighbors, because if we don't, we don't go focused on Ukraine and stuff that has nothing to do with us. China is going to take a notice and try and go and give their version of help to the people in South America and Central America. And then we are going to have the enemy right on our doorstep. And this is really what Maduro was threatening, you know, and Trump was saying, hey, you need to cut this out. He brought Chinese military equipment in there, he brought Russian advisors to come in and advise them how to be able to defend and to attack America. When you start seeing that you are no longer just a neighbor of ours, you are supporting our adversaries. And I love being an American right now because I can say, hey, you want to go support Xi Jinping? You want to go support Putin having missiles right on our doorstep? We'll kidnap your president in the middle of the night. And, you know, I, I will say, some people are saying, well, you know, Venezuela was good and, yeah, I can understand what we're doing with Greenland. That all kind of makes sense. And, you know, that's kind of where they're, they're calling for the stop there. But no, I, I believe in taking control of the entire Western Hemisphere. And that means, I think that we should retake control of the Panama Canal. Now, I'm not saying that we need to send our troops down to go take it by force, but there's always some means of leverage. The Panama, Panamanians definitely need something. Not need tariffs put on them. They might need tariffs taken off. They might need energy production or semiconductors sent there. They might need some kind of hospitals. The United States has a lot to offer if we get things back. You know, I'm not someone who says that we need to be an isolationist. I'm someone who says if we go out to do foreign trade, if we go out to go bribe another country, what we call, you know, foreign aid or confirming trade routes, it is not to go build that nation up. It is because we need something from them. And I think the United States needs to take a firm control. And I would love it if President Trump's administration would do this. He's our version of Algorithm Alexander the Great. Go take control of the Panama Canal so that we control all trade routes within the Western Hemisphere. And you Know, all of our different fleets can get to both sides of, of the oceans whenever they need to be. We can be in the Pacific, we can be in the Gulf of America, we can be in the Atlantic with overwhelming force whenever we need to be there. And really when you hear people saying, well, I feel like we're being bullies and that's not what we should do, you have to understand the United States government and the taxpayers, you, your friends, everyone you know are really subsidizing the defense of the entire planet and making sure that our modern trade routes and the ability to get things across the planet in no time at all is thanks to America. The Suez Canal is defended by nuclear submarines of the United States Navy on both sides of it. They have all of our anti aircraft missiles in place all around it and that is protected by the United States Navy. If a country was to go out and start interfering with trade currencies or oil tankers, the United States Navy will sink that ship. We are the global reserve currency. After World War II, we were the only country that had any form of ability to produce and make things. We are the only country with nuclear weapons. We had the largest fleet, the largest army, then the most powerful military the world had ever known. We could have conquered the entire world. But we decided to go help and rebuild people. And Haley, do people love us for that? When you go overseas, people like, oh, I love seeing the Americans. No, a lot of leaders are like that because they know they actually can't handle anything without the United States stepping in and being daddy. But unfortunately the rest of the world hates us. And you know what? If they're going to hate us, let's go ahead and be exactly what they say we are.
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A
Better us than them. Right? Because this is how I feel about Greenland, where, you know, obviously everyone on the left is going to freak out. But it's either the United States of America and you can hate us, or you can have Russia or China or Iran or someone else have access to these resources or this territory and have this strategical advantage in the world on the world stage. Why would anyone want that?
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B
Exactly. Haley, you're exactly right. And remember, the exact same people that are saying we should not take Greenland are the exact same people that are paid off by the military industrial complex, which makes some amazing weapons. Let's be honest about that. We saw that on display in, in Venezuela. But they're paid off by the military industrial complex. So that if China was to take Greenland or Russia was to, you know, go and colonize Greenland they would say, let's send sons and daughters to get their legs blown off and then not be able to get any help at the VA when they return. And that way we can have a 20 year war in the Arctic. We have to build all these new weapons and I can get my campaign checks and that's going to be great. They don't care about American lives. They just care about the bottom line of their bank accounts and their friends bank accounts. These people are evil. These people hate us. And if they say we shouldn't take Greenland. I judge people by who their enemies are. And right now Donald Trump's enemies are the war hawks and the neocons who want us to go nation build without actually taking the oil rights of other countries, without actually the precious mineral rights. And I know I'm saying some wild stuff here, that we're taking this from other countries, but my friends, we are the superpower of the world. If we don't act like it, if we don't win the AI race, if we don't have the energy to do this, if we don't have the rare earth minerals to do this, China will become the next superpower. We will have an atheist world domain. We will have people who say that you can only have this many children or you can never go out and go to a voting protest, or you can do anything against the government or we will tiana and square you right to death. My friends, the Chinese and the CCP are evil, they are vile, they are godless. And whatever it takes for us to be able to win this AI race and win the next phase of, you know, sixth generation warfare, my friends, we have to do it. And that involves taking rare earth minerals in Greenland and places like that. And we can do it kindly. We have taken great care of Europe, the European Union for so long. So why they want to moan and complain, I have no idea. We are much better benevolent rulers than China ever will be.
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Absolutely. Absolutely. And it, it seems kind of silly when all of this is happening on the world stage and then you have, you know, these candidates, these Democrat candidates here at home and they're pushing the most ridiculous policies and it just, it puts it into perspective like we have bigger fish to fry here. But it seems like, you know, we could talk about Virginia, you know, all night with what's going on. And their, their new governor, Spanberger is just passing the craziest proposals. You know, saying that she doesn't want local police to work with ice anymore. She revoked former governor Glenn Youngkin's Order. And now they're. They're introducing another bill to eliminate the mandatory minimum sentencing for rape, manslaughter, assaulting of a law enforcement officer, and distribution of child pornography. So Virginia is going to turn into a third world country. Why do voters fall for this stuff?
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B
You know, I will tell you and Haley, I don't know if you went to college, but the number one problem, and this sounds really aggressive, it's college educated white women primarily.
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A
I was going to ask you about the suburban women and they're the root of all evil.
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B
It's crazy to be able to say that, but these are the people, you know, they're voting based on their feelings. They're saying, oh, well, I want to be nice to everybody. And I don't think who. I don't want to see a guy in jail for 30 years. Maybe he can change. Maybe this can go well. No, I'm sorry. If you exploited a child for sexual purposes, whether it was taking pictures of them naked, forcing them to do things, or actually abusing them yourself, you should be killed. I don't care how long. You don't want them to go sit in jail for 30 years.
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C
Great.
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B
Once it's proven beyond a shadow of doubt, they've had their chance to go to court as much as they can, and it's proved without a shadow of doubt, shoot them in the head. Let's just get it over with. Let's do it publicly. Let's let people know that our children in this United States are not going to be for sale on the black market and they are not going to be exploited as some kind of sexual object. It's absolutely ridiculous. And I think we really need to crack down on OnlyFans who's encouraging our young girls to go out and just be sluts online. And they think that people say, well, if they're not doing on onlyfans, they're gonna go do it here inside of strip clubs and stuff like that. But it's lowering the barrier to entry. We have to protect our women in this country. And that is what we believe on the right. I mean, we want everyone to be equal and treated fairly here and protected. But for whatever reason, suburban women vote with the party that actually hates, hates them. They want to, they want to import the third world. Look what's happening in Sweden. It's now the rape capital of the world because they brought in so many ridiculous immigrants. And now we're seeing the same thing with the Somalis. They're just trying to destroy our entire country. America is for Americans. And unfortunately, so many of these people that vote based on their feelings, it leads to having cashless bail and repeat offenders who are going in and out of the justice system 14 times. I mean, you look in Charlotte, the guy who came up and killed that sweet young girl from a Ukrainian refugee who was here on asylum legally, he killed her on a train and stabbed her in the neck. And that is on white suburban women who for whatever reason, are voting for the most ridiculous policies that endanger their very own lives.
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A
Yeah, it's the feel good vote for whatever reason. I don't know why it is they feel good doing it. They feel it's like the white savior complex vote. Let me. You know, we all have a vote in this country, right? And if Democrats have their way, they'll let literally anyone vote illegal. Whoever, Whoever. Right. Just come one, come all. They just. It's a free for all, right? But everyone has a vote. And this is what I don't understand. Liberals will say, well, when you vote, think about this group of people and think about this group of people and think about this group of people and think about them. And why don't you think about. Why would I think about anyone but myself? Being in the voting booth is one of the only places I would say be as selfish as humanly possible because everyone else has a vote. Let that community vote on behalf of what they want. You vote. Vote for you. It just doesn't make sense to me. But I did want. Because you brought up the only fans thing and I wanted your take on Fishback. James Fishback is running for governor in Florida and he's polling behind everyone else. He's polling in the single digits and. But he's doing a lot. He's getting a lot of traction on social media and, you know, polls don't mean everything, and social media doesn't mean everything either. But he's gaining a lot of traction for a lot of the different policies that he's putting forth. But one of them is the. The syntax where he wants to tax OnlyFans creators at 50%. So you said that you don't like only only fans. What do you think about that policy? What do you think about him?
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B
Yes, I mean, you know, I think that's a pretty fair proposal. You know, if you want to try and mitigate something, you know, people who say, well, you can't legislate morality. You know, every form of legislation that we put forth is based on our morals. You know, mine's based in. On. On my Christian beliefs. And that's where I think people should all get theirs. That's why you go vote for someone who is like you. Like when I go out and try to campaign, I'm like, o, hey. My target audience is young men that are like me who have similar minded views as I do. And I'm going to go be their voice inside of Congress. And that's what every candidate should go out and do. So, you know, based on the Bible, you know, we have to protect people from, you know, Sodom and Gomorrah taking over. And you know, you look at, you know, culture after culture, so many societies were absolutely destroyed by sexual immorality. And you know, there's, there's some really.
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C
Great studies on this.
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B
It happened with Rome, happened with Athens.
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C
Happened with the Assyrians.
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B
It happened all over the world, world. And you know, there's a really great caliphate leader who said, if I want to go take over a country, I.
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C
Will just make it very easy for their women to be naked. And unfortunately, you know, this is a.
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B
Crazy take, but I think that men did greater things when it was harder to see boobs.
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C
That's just a fact that you could.
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B
Say you have 15 year old men.
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C
During the age of discovery who were sailing these massive ships and leading hundreds.
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B
Of men to go discover the world, world. Whereas now we have so many people that are addicted to porn, addicted to.
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C
Their phones, they have short attention spans.
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B
And my friends, although those things can.
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C
Be alluring and sin is fun for.
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B
A season, you know, I'm quoting Alex Jones here, but this world is fiery with its beauty. It truly is. And if you go out and accomplish.
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C
Great things and do amazing things, what.
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B
You'Re called for and put on this earth to do, you know, your life.
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C
Is going to be absolutely incredible.
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B
And so in my mind, you know.
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C
I think that women have a special place inside of our society because they really control how great they want their, the men of their society to be, be. And it's like, well, you know, if we're going to give it up easy for guys who are, you know, have zero testosterone, haven't accomplished anything in their life, then of course they're not going to feel any need to go out and try and accomplish great things or build better societies. And I think we've seen that, you.
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B
Know, ever since the 70s when we.
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C
Kind of had the sexual revolution in this country, you know, our society has notably gone downhill. You know, the golden age of America.
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B
You know, after World War II, we.
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C
Were the greatest production. We had the greatest production anywhere in the World, we, we were taking care of Americans. We had an infinite income coming into the country. We had, you know, we had still had the gold standard, but now that we have the Federal Reserve and just the whole world has gotten so much worse since that sexual revolution. I think that we need to get back to a values based society. That's something that's very important. And so, you know, I'm very against only fans. I understand why it was created. You know, it's made people millions and millions of dollars. And the company, I think they only have 24 employees and it's one of the most well known things inside of our generation. But unfortunately it's destroying our society. So anything that we can do to limit that, obviously I'm, I lean heavily libertarian and I'm a hardcore, but I'm.
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B
Also a hardcore conservative.
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C
The only thing that I have a problem with libertarians is that if you let anybody go do whatever they want, they're going to say, oh, well, I'm good just as I am. No, we're all born as pretty pathetic, terrible people into a life of sin and we have to try and make ourselves better every single day and go through purifying fire to become better, better. And you know, that's where I think we are. So that I think we do have to have some conservative values. And once you have a good values based society, then pull back all of the stuff and let people, you know, determine their things for themselves.
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A
Boobs are the downfall of society. You heard it here first. That's your, your campaign platform. But I wanted to get your take on a lot of this conservative infighting that's happening right now. I know your mom is in the room and I just said that. I'm so sorry.
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B
Oh, my mama knows who her son is. It's all right.
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A
Oh, but seriously, a lot of people, conservative influencers and newsmakers are, are fighting. And I feel like a lot of the focus is on that and it needs to be on the midterms. What's your take on this infighting, this divisiveness? And what do we have to do to, to pull ahead and pull out some W's?
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B
Well, you know, if we could pull off a Lazarus and God could bring.
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C
Charlie Kirk back to this earth, I mean, I think it really shows how much Charlie Kirk, Kirk held together this amazing coalition that Donald Trump built. But you know, he was really the, the, the field general that kind of kept people in line saying, hey, you know, this is going to be permitted. This is not permitted. We're going to be going this direction. And it's not because he didn't want opposing views. It was just because he wanted to accomplish things in order of, of importance. And so, you know, I think that the first election in 2020 was really about defeating the globalists. And then in 2024, that's definitely what it was about. Defeating the deep state, defeating the globalist. But I think Trump's done a really great job job. You know, obviously taking out the deep state is a hard one for battle because they've been entrenched for, you know, seven decades. And so I think he's making progress. We still have some ways to go. But I fully support the president. I think he's doing a great job. But now I think that we need to shift our focus from defeating the Gleeb state and the globalism because, you know, Trump just gave a great speech at Davos saying how can morally and financially bankrupt globalism is. It's exactly what we wanted to hear. It's exactly the mandate we give him. And so now, now going into the midterms for 2026, it is very simple. We are going back to dining room politics.
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B
Homes were made, were not made for.
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C
Investors, they were made for families. We need to make homes affordable for young families to be able to live in so they can go out and get married, they can have a well paying job, and I don't care if it's the woman or the man that goes out and works. We need to have an economy that is so roaring and so strong and our workers are so desired that you can support a family with four kids on a single income. Income one. I will say that I think if you are a solid married family and you are living in a stable household and you have four or more children, then I think that you should not have to pay any federal income tax until they are all out of the house. After that, I think that we need to then go and attack the outrageous housing prices that we have. If you are a multinational conglomerate who's buying up single family homes so you can impress your investors, but unfortunately we're pricing out single mothers who will never be able to afford the home and go up against Blackstone and Blackrock Shock, then my friends, we have an economy that's not working for us. We are not a nation of people that are here to have GDP increases. We are a nation of people that are here to make our country work for its people. And if we have to go outside the bounds of what is normally considered as conservatism, I'M willing to do that because right now we have flood insurance. Because unfortunately government's created so many regulations we have no competition in the insurance market. We need to be able to have a flood Insurance Relief Act. HR4494. If anyone wants to go read it, we will pass that through the house. If when I am elected we will drive that all the way through so that that people in southwest Florida can afford homes. But all across the country you need to nuke the federal government. I'm telling you and I'm not talking about a nuclear war, I'm saying drastically limit its reach and what it can do. The EPA of all people is actually what's making our home prices, building prices go through the roof because they have so many regulations on whether it's lumber and other home building products of what they have to do to be able to meet their standards that nobody is able to afford it. We have to make this country work for our workers. That means getting rid of these low income people who come here from third world countries and they work for slave wages. And then you have people on the left say well Americans wouldn't be willing to go out and do hard jobs and that's why we have to import all these people.
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B
Yeah, I'm not going to go to.
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C
Be a roofer for $3 an hour. I'm sorry, that doesn't sound appealing to me. But when we start paying Americans what they're actually worth when they're on a job site, the best workers in the entire world old my friends, everyone will line up to go do those jobs. You will have hard men doing hard jobs and getting paid well for it so they can support their families. And that is the economy we need to do. But to be able to do that we have to unleash our power dominance. And that is an above all approach. I want to drill every last drop of gas out of the ground. I want all, I want all kind of petroleum petrochemicals used to their fullest extent. Whether it's from Venezuela, whether it's from here and on our shales inside of the continental United States states. We need to drill, baby drill. So that when we are shipping goods across the country or we have diesel tractors out farming our fields, all of those prices will be cheaper. So then you have less prices when you're going to Walmart, you're going to Publix, things are going to be able to be afford for your family. And then lastly after we have energy dominance with nuclear power and all those things we have got to scale back, scale back regulation. If you want to defeat the national deficit and you want to give people a good economy, you have got to remove regulations. We've got to bring Federal Reserve interest rates down. We have to get rid of the Federal Reserve as once and for all go stop with this fiat currency nonsense and have something that is tied to a standard that can't be inflated at the will of bankers. And so in my mind we are here to fight for affordability and fight for American families. I don't give a damn what's going on in Australia right now or what's going on in Ukraine right now while we have 56,000 or whatever it is. It's far one is too many homeless veterans on the side of the street, 23 veterans killing themselves every single day. If we don't fix our problems here in the United States of America, then what is going to happen when so many of the generation who's about to.
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B
All go into retirement and our birth.
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C
Rate is significantly declined because one third of my entire generation was murdered due to abortion? How are we going to be able to afford we have to do. We have to unleash the American economy, allow innovators to innovate state have free energy for our people. You know, I've been in foreign countries. We're like, oh, we're not going to turn the cars off. Gas is 25 cents here.
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B
Why is that not going on in the United States?
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C
Make the rest of the country pay that. You know, we need an external revenue service, not an internal revenue service.
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A
Amen to all of that. And I want you to give just a quick elevator pitch to anyone watching who might be in Florida's 19th district and then tell people where they can find you and find out more about your campaign.
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B
Absolutely. Well, Haley1 thank you so much for having me on. You're such a fantastic. You know, obviously when Bongino was doing his great service to the nation and the FBI, you know, we all wonder what's going to happen the Bongino network. But you know, people like you have really captivated and you know, given out those marching orders and the base really needs to hear. So one thank you for that. You know, if you live in southwest Florida in the 19th district, I am asking for your vote. One I you know, I has been proven when I was given opportunity after opportunity to join the unit party in Washington D.C. and have any problems with reelection go away. I will not give up my voting card to the powers that be in Washington. My voting card belongs to my district and the people of my generation, the people who need help inside of this country. We are here to fight for Americans. I will never sell you out to any other interest, whether it's a special interest, if it's some foreigners coming here saying, well, hey, we need foreign aid to go to Japan, to go here, to go there. I'm sorry, no. Every single dollar that comes to the. From taxes from southwest Florida, I will fight tooth and nail to get that appropriated, to go right back. To make our lives better here. We need better busing routes. We need more educational freedom, which we're doing well here in the state of Florida. That's got to be better. We will bring down flood insurance inside of this district. We will bring down home prices. We will allow people to be able to move here because we will diversify our economy where people are actually producing things and not just having intellectual property, but they are being able to be. Be proud to be from southwest Florida and not needing to move anywhere else.
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C
To join, you know, somewhere where they.
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B
Just move money around, but they can actually build things that the world needs. This is what our district needs, is what our country needs. And my friends, I promise I will.
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C
Never bend the knee to special interests.
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B
I will never bend the knee to the deep state. I. My price is my life. If you want me to go against what my true beliefs are, you have to kill me.
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A
Wow. That. What. What a way to end the interview. I love that sentiment. Madison Cawthorn, thanks for being here here.
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B
Thank you, Haley.
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C
Have a great night.
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A
You too. Well, I hope you enjoyed that interview as much as I did. Always love hearing from Madison and a. And a fellow Floridian, now that I. I can call myself a Floridian. Almost a year coming up on a year, so absolutely love it. Love supporting my new state. I will see you right back here on Monday. Have a great weekend.
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B
Bye.