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Keeping Florida Great w/ Madison Cawthorn - Scrolling w/ Hayley (Ep. 347)
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In this episode of Scrolling: Florida Congressional Candidate Madison Cawthorn reacts to the latest controversies in politics, the future of the Republican Party, his plans for Florida & more.
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Welcome into Scrolling with Haley. I'm Hayley Carania. Thank you for joining me today. You're going to love my guests. But first I want to remind you to subscribe to this show, rumble.com Haley brings you to the Bongina Report channel. That's where you can watch Vince at 8am and myself at noon. If you're watching right now in the chat, you already know that live at noon, you you should join everyone in the chat. It's the best way to watch in my opinion. But if you can't watch live on Rumble, that's okay. You can watch on Rumble whenever you want. You can also watch on on Spotify. Spotify right now and listen on your favorite podcast platform. All I care about is that you tell a friend. Alert the family group chat, spread the word and of course support our sponsors. So here's a word from them. Most customers aren't waiting around for a callback. Maybe they're trying to book an appointment. Maybe they're looking for a quote. Maybe they just need help now, whatever it is, if nobody answers, they're calling the next business on the list. That's why today's episode is brought to you by Quo, so spelled Q U O. The business phone system. Built so that you never miss a call. With Quo, all of your calls, texts and voicemails live in one place. So your whole team can jump in, see the conversation history and respond fast without confusion. It's trusted by over 90,000 businesses to stay reachable and look professional every single day. Setup takes minutes on any device. You can keep your existing number, scale your team without any IT headaches. Plus Quo's built in AI agent handles after hours calls, answers questions, and even books appointments so opportunities never slip through the cracks. Money is on the line. Always say hello with Quo. Try Quo for free. Plus 20% off your first six months. When you go to quo.com scroll that is Q U O.com scroll back to the show. And without further ado, the show starts now. Today is not a solo episode. I am joined by former North Carolina congressman Madison Cawthorn, who is now a fellow Floridian. He is running for Byron Donald's vacant seat in Florida's 19th district. We'll get into that race. What the party needs to do as a whole to gear up for the midterms so that we can keep on winning. Madison Cawthorn, welcome to the show, Haley.
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It's great to be on. Thank you guys for having me.
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Yeah, thanks for coming back. So you're a spring chicken. You're one of the youngest people ever elected to Congress. So you're still going to be one of the youngest, right, if you win this time or will someone else take your spot?
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I think there'll be one person that'll be younger than me unless somebody new wins, but I will be, I think, the second youngest in the House.
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Okay, well, one of the youngest. Right. And that's a huge accomplishment, first of all. Um, but I'm curious, your position on term limits, you know, in the wake of Senator Graham's death, are you in the camp that younger voices are the answer, or is age just a number?
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You know what I think it really comes down to person to person. You know, I've met some 25 year olds who I do not think are really fit and ready to be inside of congressional office. But I've also met a lot of people, and I've met a lot of them who are currently serving inside of the House who should be nowhere near making decisions for the future of the American people. And I think it really comes down to acuity, what someone's, you know, life has really taught them and how much they're willing to put effort and time into this position. That's what I think it really comes down to. Now, I know the arguments from a lot of people are that there are term limits. They were designed by our founders. Why we have a bloodless revolution every two years in this country. But one thing that I'll push back on that is that there are no term limits for bureaucrats. And right now, the bureaucratic class is running the majority of our government in almost every single way. We saw this in Trump's first term when you had so many political appointees trying to get the objectives at the president was giving to them done. But then the established bureaucrats, the entrenched deep state, would go the exact opposite direction whenever they would say, hey, this is what we're trying to do. This is the mandate we've been given. And so I do think that that term limits, specifically, if they were on bureaucrats, would be helpful. But then when I start looking at it, there are several people inside of the House who have been in office for longer than you or I have been alive. I think that's a travesty. I think that's a real problem. And so I think that maybe three, four terms for a member of con, and then three terms for a senator, I think that's more than enough time. And if you're not able to get something done in that amount of time, you should be gone.
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Bingo. Bingo. You have a certain amount of time to put policy forward and get it passed and make some changes in your community and in your state and in the country. And if you can't get it done, then you shouldn't be there anyway, just collecting checks and whatnot until the end of time. I mean, this womb to tomb stuff is totally crazy if you ask me. But to your point about bureaucrats, it seems like if you have enough money, that's all it takes. You know, we have this illusion of choice between candidates, but it's like whoever had the most money. So I agree with you that there are people. Doesn't matter if you're young. Doesn't mean that you are the best option. I don't believe that. And certainly AOC is one of those people. Her name is getting thrown out there for 2028 on the Democrat side. And I don't think she's very smart. You know, she's younger. But that doesn't mean that she's the future, and that doesn't mean she's the face of the Future. And so AOC said she hasn't ruled out running in 2028. Then last week, New York magazine said that Kamala Harris is the front runner. So is the future female for the Democrat Party? Do you think they'll try Kamala Harris 2.0 or will they put a woman up and lose again?
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You know, I think they definitely will try and run some female candidates, but I do see that they're trying to shift. You see this from the messaging from their influencers all the way up to members of Congress. There are a significant number of people who are trying to act like they're this masculine hodgepodge of whatever they think a masculine guy is. And so you see these guys, then they're acting like they're masculine. Like you saw some guy, I think Harry Sisson said that he wanted to fight members of the Trump Trump family and in a fistfight on the White House lawn. I'm just saying these people have negative testosterone. They would get folded like a beanbag. And so when I really start thinking about this, I think they are going to probably try and run a straight white guy to see if that they can then be able to feed us in the president election. But I don't think that's going to be the case. And I would say that, you know, I don't think the general population of actual Democrat voters would ever select that. I think that they are very much thinking the future is female. The future is Just some kind of minority, whatever that means. And whereas the reality is, we saw this with Kamala Harris. We see this in so many elections, even when Hillary Clinton ran against Bernie Sanders. The establishment is the one. The National Party is the one who selects who their candidate is. It's not up to the will of the people.
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Yeah, I mean, I would say that Gavin Newsom is probably their best bet. But then again, he's straight, he's white, he's a man. They hate that. Right. The Democrats kind of set themselves up for failure where they have these impossible standards. And, you know, we hate men and we hate white people and all this stuff. Now they're stuck with shitty candidates because they can't go with the straight. The straight white guy. To your point, I think maybe they'll run him and then the vice presidential candidate will have to check some kind of a box that Gavin Newsom doesn't bring to the table, and I guess we'll see how that goes. But in terms of the kind of candidates that the Democrat Party is putting up, you know, Mamdani can never run for president, but his election in New York City, I think, speaks to how democratic socialism is gaining traction on the left. The progressive faction of the Democrat base probably sees Gavin Newsom and Kamala Harris as too mainstream. And I think younger Democrats would likely want to back someone like Mamdani rather than this establishment Democrat candidate, which is crazy to call Gavin Newsom and Kamala Harris establishment. But in the grand scheme of things, I think the progressive voters want more, more, more, more, more. Do you think the party will lean into that Democratic socialism? And will America as a whole buy that?
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Well, I really think. I would think we first saw it with AOC and then as she went and got a bunch of her minions elected to the House, you know, I've served with them. I've seen how they act on the floor. I mean, they say things. And there people on the news right now for the left as mouthpieces coming out and saying that it's time to get rid of the Senate, it's time to pack the Supreme Court. I really believe that they are trying to run as fast as they can in a direction that is going to make them lose every single election in the future. Which is something that I just say, hey, let's not get involved in stopping them for that. Completely live your life to your own devices. Go ahead and have at it. But when they're starting to mention things like, oh, we want to seize the means of production, that's not socialism. That is communism. And listen, even if you want to talk about socialism, socialism is the most deadly, poverty impoverishing mindset for any kind of a economic system the world has ever known. And then when you add on communism, you're doing it at the end of a gun. And that is what's going to cause a mass death of anybody who wants to go out and be creative and try and make something of themselves. And so when we start seeing this, I do hope that they try and come back more towards the middle. I know it's not going to happen because to them, defeating capitalism and defeating the American way is a religion to them. And, but I'm telling you, these people are straight up communists. They are running as fast as they can towards whatever is going to try and wreck the American people. I think we've seen this where they created a welfare state over the last six decades, then they flooded our borders and said, look, now that all of our, now that everything's, you know, Social Security is going insolvent, all of our welfare programs, we said that we're going to work because of capitalism, not actually working for anyone. And it really is, is just a perverted version of capitalism that they're trying to attack. But the reason they want to do it is because they want to be the champagne Communists. They want to be the.001% at the very top who get to live inside of your home, who get to take your factory floor from you and get to say, hey, you don't work for yourself anymore. You were just a wage slave for us, the rulers, and we are the ones who are going to lead you to a happier, more inclusive situation. But it could be nothing further from the truth. The only way to allow people to have a fair chance at life is what our founders intended. It is with the ideas that say, hey, if you're willing to take a risk, if you're willing to put the work in, then you can go out and make something amazing of yourself. But then when you keep looking at the candidates, they keep using again. Like I said, they have some image of what they think a straight white guy is. And that's what's going on with Graham Platner up in Maine. He is the furthest thing from anything that's a healthy version of a man. I mean, this guy is nothing like what the Democrats actually say that they want. But then whenever he starts coming out and starts being bad, they're like, well, you know, we weren't really endorsing him. Listen, none of these people have any Morals whatsoever. None of these people have any standards whatsoever. They are only attacking you because they want to destroy you and destroy our system.
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Absolutely. And you know, you brought up the Senate race in Maine. And you know, I'm watching clips of this debate and I'm thinking this is a clown show, right? I mean, what does the left even stand for anymore? You have a transgender individual that's running for Senate. He's not well spoken. He doesn't really have a good understanding of anything. He's talking about pork bellying and, and he just wants to use the bathroom of his choosing. These are not reasons to run for office. These are like personal things that he's worried about that the majority of society is not worried about. And I don't think he speaks for all of Maine, certainly. And then you have this other woman, she's talking about climate change and I hadn't heard about any anything else, but they're talking really about getting Trump. Like there are people in their Senate races and congressional races, they are running to defeat Trump and whatever Trump stands for, they're going to have to find a new strategy, don't you think?
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Well, absolutely. Then also we got to think about the fact that they have a horizon for that. If that is what they're building their movement on. What are they going to do in 2028? I mean, re gearing for a presidential election doesn' happen overnight. You know, the national party has to cast a vision that's going to happen in the midterms and then they're going to try and carry it through over to the presidential election because then they can say, listen, we need to do this or else this is going to be the result. And then once that comes to fruition, if they are unsuccessful in doing whatever they said this is, then they can say, look, if you guys had done what we said, we would not be in the situation now. And so if their entire message is just to get Trump, what are they going to do when President Trump unfortunately leaves office? And then they're running against somebody like Marco Rubio or J.D. vance or whoever's gonna be running on our side. They're going to have to just be attacking Trump non stop. But remember, he's not on the ticket. And so I don't really understand what these people's idea is of what their strategy is moving forward. But I think that just speaks to a larger case of what's going on with the Democrats as a whole. They have no strategy, they have no long term plan. These are people who are ruled by Their emotions. It is the epitome of weakness. It is the epitome of the. It is the opposite of the. The opposite of masculinity. These are people who are going to go out and try and sell you the rainbow, but they are going to give you nothing but gravel and sulfur. And that is the what you're going to be left with. I mean, literally one, their entire think tank that leads their ideas for globalization says that you will own nothing and be happy. That is what they think is this enlightened view of the future. And really, I blame it on the higher education system. All these people in the ivory towers who understand things theoretically but have no idea how to actually implement them in the real world. And so when they get into these positions where they're handed a microphone, they just start saying whatever they think sounds right. But if anyone sits down and uses some critical thinking to consider it for more than five minutes, they'll realize that followed through to conclusion, that means that you mass mass people are going to be arrested, mass people are going to be incarcerated. And then when people start fighting back, there are going to be massive amounts of civilian casualties inside the United States of America because they realize, wait a minute, our ideas don't actually work. But we can't admit that because then we'll never win again. So we just need to go as hard as we can for the average American.
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Well, speaking of never being able to win again, it seems like Democrats are sort of up to their old tricks. A study exposed that despite Graham Platner running on breaking up Google and other big tech companies, Google News and Apple News were suppressing bad stories about Platner. It seems like the only way Democrats know how to win is to manipulate the public. They do this with Trump all the time. We see anti Trump news all the time. They don't cover the truth. And we saw this with Biden during the 2020 election where Twitter suppressed the bad stories about Biden and Hunter Biden and it could have swayed the election. And we know that now. And Big Tech was part of this cover up, this massive cover up. And now we know that Democrats are doing this again.
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Yeah, and this is something that I think people need to be really afraid of, is that we're headed to this point point of techno feudalism, where people who own these massive platforms, it could be something like social media platforms, it could be something like Flock, it can be something like whatever different kind of companies people are trying to use to take the rights of the American people away from them. Remember, feudalism back in the day was when people had a landed aristocracy, they were powerful because they owned land, and then everybody was, was beholden to whoever owned that land. But now we're heading towards something where these people who own these massive tech platforms are really trying to take control the entire. You know, there was actually an interview on Joe Rogan. He was a big billionaire who came out and spoke out against Biden and came out for Trump, which was something that was not very normal for leaders from Silicon Valley. But he said that he went into a meeting with the Biden cabinet and when they started laying out what the future was going to be like, it was going to be a, a handful of massively large companies all over a trillion dollars that were extremely regulated and nobody else would have the opportunity to try and get into it. They literally told him, don't tell anyone to invest in startups. It's just not worth, never allow that to happen. And they are trying to get people to where they can get enough political power that they can remove any of the roadblocks out of their way from these techno feudals, from being able to control the entire world that we live in, the information that we get, our food supply, what kind of shipping is allowed in and out of the AM of the American ports. And this is why we need people who love American people. Listen, I am, I'm, I'm a capitalist. I want people to be able to go out and make money and all these things. But as long as whatever we are doing serves our fellow man and woman, I know we have to overturn one of the Supreme Court cases, And I believe 1919 that says shareholder value is the number one aspect of anyone's concern ever, whenever they have a company. But let's go back to the days where we had these amazing billionaires in our country who were taking care of the American people because they love the American people, they love the American way of life. They're not just trying to make profits regardless of what it does to the American people. We need to start bringing jobs back to the American homeland. We need to start giving people ability to afford homes. We need to start giving people the ability to be able to build amazing things with their hands, not just be a services nation like they're trying to force down our throats. And I think that is what's so important for the American people when they're going in, into these next elections. And really, I think that's what binded together the 2024. Just amazing team that Donald Trump brought together. People from Every walk of life. It was something that was so simple. But now I feel like we have Republicans in office, especially in the House and Senate, who are running on things that are just. They're not real. They're not things that people talk about with their families around the kitchen table when they're having dinner at night. What actually affects American families and young people in America who are wanting to go out and create the new SpaceX, who are wanting to go out and create these new businesses to make their communities a better place. That is what we need to champion as, as, as conservatives. And I think that is the winning message going into 2026.
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Absolutely none of these lazy socialists, Democratic socialists, are going to be the next billionaire saving the country. I mean, they just want to. They don't want to really do anything. They just feel like they deserve things handed to them and that the government should do all these things for them. And they're certainly not the answer. But you mentioned flock cameras, and I want your take on that.
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Yeah, so when it comes to flock cameras, I. I'm pretty aggressive about the Fourth Amendment. I mean, I'm wanting to be a public servant. And so you should be able to know everything about my life, but I should know virtually nothing about your life. You are a private citizen. That is the way the situation needs to play out. And listen, I know you're going to hear from dozens of people who say, but it really helps us solve crime, and it really helps us do this, and it really helps us do that. That's how things always start out. You know, I remember I went into a information technology system that we had in Washington, D.C. where they were using law enforcement. I was getting a tour of it, and it was to be able to keep people safe. And there was a German immigrant who was commanding that facility. You know, he was an American citizen. He's a great guy. And I remember they were showing me the capabilities that they had. And this is years ago. They took a picture of one of my tattoos. They then pulled up images of where I was all over, wherever I was getting gas at. And then I was like, that is a lot of power for one person to have. And he said, yeah, but as long as you don't do anything wrong, you have nothing to fear. And I, I kind of rolled backwards. I said, wait a minute. I know the people who decide what is right and wrong inside of this country, you do not want them to have this kind of power when they decide that the normal American way of life is wrong, which is something that they will do if given the opportunity. And so I'm pretty heavily against flox cameras. I'm very against people knowing every single thing that American citizens are doing. We should have freedom and anonymity to be able to go out and do what we want to do. And because that way, I mean, listen, if tyrants ever came into power, they were trying to take our ability to own firearms away. They were trying to censor our speech more aggressively than what they have been doing in the past. They were trying to tell us where and when we can go to church, how many children we can have. All of these things that we imagine a dystopian future. If they had this kind of surveillance network, there would be no ability for the American people to be able to fight back against it. And that is something that we have got to hold dear. And if. Listen, I understand that it might make solving some crimes a little bit more difficult, but the tragedy that happens when people have a little freedom is significantly better than the devastation that happens when people have no freedom.
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Absolutely. Amen to that. I totally respect your opinion on that. We covered this on the show the other day, and I just said, this seems to be like the way of the world where we embrace technology and then we also have to embrace all the bad that comes with that. And it just seems like we're sort of stuck between a rock and a hard place. Like, yeah, I mean, I guess this technology can be used for good, but what if it gets used for bad? I would much rather not see that outcome. So I appreciate your take on that.
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A
But I want to talk to you about 2028. I know we talked a little bit about the Democrats. Enough about the Democrats stats. What's your dream ticket on the right for 2028?
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Oh, that's a hard one. I mean, you know, that's a difficult one. Marco Rubio has been just, you know, covering himself in glory and accolades ever since he's been Secretary of State. I think JD Vance is extremely well spoken. You know, if I had to pick somebody right now, you know, Hey, I honestly don't feel comfortable picking anybody right now. You know, I, hopefully there's going to be. We as Republicans have a really, really deep bench. There are people that, I mean, look at Brandon G. He's just a member of Congress. I think he'd be an amazing president. Look at what's going on with J.D. vance. I mean, he's a vice President. He would do an amazing job, I feel like, as well. But there are so many freedom loving patriots on the right who have the accolades, who have the actual acumen to be able to go out and get amazing things done. I think it's way too, way too early to say what, who we need because honestly, remember, politics happens so fast, has happened so quickly, and we don't know what kind of threats are going to be on the horizon for our next president. And so depending what kind of issues that we're going to be facing, I think determines which tool we're going to put into that job to go and execute for us.
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Absolutely. Yeah, I agree. I mean, the hypothetical questions are fun though. You got to give me that. The hypothetical.
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They are.
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I know.
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Who's your pick? Who's your pick?
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I love Rubio, but I also. So here's the thing. Whenever I say that, people get mad at me because they're like, But J.D. vance. And it's like, I love Vice President Vance and I think he'd be a great president as well. But people have this thing like, well, you got to give him his shot. And I feel like that's very like patty cake, you know, playground, you know, where we got to like give this person their shot. And politics isn't really like that. So I don't really know if we would have to do that. But I would say Vice President Vance and I would be very happy with Vice President Vance as the presidential candidate and Marco Rubio, and then Marco Rubio and Brandon Gill running after that. That would be really my dream ticket, I think, I really do. I'm glad you brought, I'm glad you brought him up too because I've been eyeing him and you know, I love all of his clips that he puts up, but he's just absolutely wiping the floor with Democrats whenever he's in these hearings and whatnot. So I think he's very well spoken. I definitely think he's the future of the party. And I always say this, we are very lucky on the Republican side that we have a deep bench. We have such amazing talent. We have young talent. And I truly, I feel so strongly, I think a lot of this has to do with Charlie Kirk and Turning Point and just a lot of this younger conservative movement that we have going on now. We're so lucky that we have, you know, people think that the conservative party and Republicans are a bunch of stuffy old white guys. And that's really far from the truth. We're very, very lucky to have young voices that are very strong like yourself. And the Democrats are really not in the same boat. I mean, they have more of the old stuffy white guys than we do.
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I think they absolutely do. And then also, it's just there's this massive authenticity gap that is going on. I mean, you listen to a lot of these people who are running for Congress on the Democrat side, who are in con on the Democrat side, and you can tell that they're being handed their speech by a staffer. You can tell that speech was written by ChatGPT, whereas you can take the majority of congressmen on the Republican side and throw them into a debate. And then I heavily credit this to Charlie Kirk. But because we encourage the free exchange of ideas and because we're not afraid to talk about religion and politics like the left and centrists are, we are able to have a debate almost anywhere at any time without prep for it, because they're just common sense ideas that we personally hold in our own lives. Whereas on the left, they are always constantly fact checking what do the polls say? What do I need to believe right now? Who is the most, you know, you know, who is the most, you know, disdained and hated person here? Because they're the most honored. And that is something that is so difficult for anyone to actually conceptualize. And that's why they suck at debate so bad. I mean, literally, you watch these people try and go out and debate and they are losers. None of their ideas make any sense. And then when you actually get them in a position, they just go straight into these ad hominem attacks. They start going into this anger and this aggression, this vitriolic rhetoric, and then they start shooting us at the end of it, and it's just so insane. And this is one thing that I really disdain about the left is I really believe that they look at violence like a knob. They are somebody who, you know, is going to turn the heat up a little bit for violence. Oh, well, actually, we want these people that are going out to riot to have bricks with them so they can throw it and then we can make news headlines and all this stuff, and then we'll turn it back down. Just a little bit it. And then, oh, Charlie, Kirk's way too good. Let's turn it all the way up and let's have him assassinated. And then let's turn it back down a little bit. And they're constantly using this, but there's always some form of violence. Whereas on the right, to us, it's like a switch. It is either all or nothing. And I'm telling you, the, the, the American Christian right, I think, is so strong to be able to say, hey, you have come after us so long for so, so many years, so many decades, trying to destroy our moral identity, trying to destroy everything that makes us who we are, are. Yet we are willing to sit here and have a good faith argument with you to try and decide who has the greater ideas. Because when the right turns on the, the, the switch, it's for when we're being invaded. It's for when tyrants come in. That is the way that we were raised. That is what we all believe. And so the left, they cannot debate. They use violence as a crutch, and they really have no idea how to lead this country, and that's why they're inevitably going to lose.
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Yeah. And they have no faith to fall back on either. That's why they're killing us, us in the streets and they're killing us after debates because they have no moral compass that is keeping them from turning that dial up all the way. As you say. I want to talk about the midterms, because as much as we have the facts on our side, and we really are, I feel like I'm so lucky and I feel so blessed, and I'm always very proud of being on the right side of the aisle politically. But Republicans do struggle when Trump isn't on the ballot. It. And we struggle to get people to polls in midterm election years. So we got to get people jazzed. But we've got some infighting going on. We've got the Republican majority that can't pass the SAVE Act. We've got an affordability crisis. We've got a war going on. So how do we get some of those disgruntled Republicans back on board and to the polls and say, no, we are the party that can get this done for you.
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Yes. So, one, I think it goes back to telling the people who are in power right now in Congress to stop, you know, pussyfooting ground and start saying, hey, you know, we don't want to continue these deportations because they look bad. We don't want to push super Hard for the SAVE act right now because it's politically not the most expedient thing. It's to turn your back on that entire way of thinking and say, listen, we were given a mandate by the American people. Donald Trump has given us the tools to do it. We just need to go out and codify this and get this done. And so that is what people who are currently in office should be doing now. One thing I will give to President Trump and to the Republican base case is we have almost a billion dollars between the NRCC and the NRSC which is going to help people be able to get through the midterms extremely well. Because if you look at it when this is something that I disdain, I don't think is a great idea, is that very rarely do people who have more money in elections actually lose elections. Whereas the DNC and the DCCC are completely in debt. They have no ability to go out and get out the vote. This is something they're just going to be sitting back and saying, hey, look, we hate Trump. Trump, you guys need to stop Trump or else, you know, we're going to continue down this path we're going down, which is what we all hope is going to happen for us. But we have the money to be able to do it. Now, the party having the money to be able to get the vote out only happens if we have a good messengers who are going to go out and actually articulate a message that is a winning message. And again, like we were talking about earlier, Haley, it comes down to household politics. What do people need? How do we get gas prices down? How do we get food move more affordable? How do we give people greater and better jobs? How do we give young people a zeal for the future where they realize, wait a minute, this is our country. We were given this mantle by our forefathers to say that we are the greatest nation this world has ever known. We have circum. Circumnavigated the globe. We have sent people to space. We are the people who are going to conquer the entire planet. We turn this amazing continent, which was nothing but a wilderness, and we turned it into the greatest nation this world has ever known. That is our birthright. That is our heritage. And we are going to go out and carry that for forth. If you tell young people that in America today, they will fight for you and they will go to the polls for you over broken glass. I've seen it in my elections in the past and I think that's what we need to get back to Instead of saying that, hey, we're going to take a knee to the left, we're going to apologize for our greatness, we're going to apologize for our heritage. I say absolutely not. I'm going to own my heritage. My forefathers bled and died on my behalf so that we can have this amazing nation. And I will be damned if you take it from me. I will fight you in the ballot box. I will fight you in the debate polls. Wherever we have to take you on, we will take you on. Because we are Americans and we will never give up this great manifest destiny that God has given us.
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Absolutely. Amen to that. And you are certainly a fighter. So I want to talk about your race because there's a big field gunning for the 19th district seat and there's a big primary coming up in about a month. What sets you apart?
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Yeah, so one, I really like big primaries because it really makes conservatives votes matter significantly more. Some of the things that I think set me apart the most is that one, I want to moratorium on immigration. None of my other opponents actually believe in that. Two, I believe in the absolute belief that the Second Amendment is an absolute right. And that is something that we have the right to be able to defend ourselves against a tyrannical government and any kind of invasion that comes to us. That is something that I believe significantly more than any of my opponents. And also, I'm not someone who's going to apologize for my heritage or for my belief. Whereas we have a lot of other people who want to sit here and say, well, you know, we're this nation that has just welcomes everybody from all across the world. World, no, that's not what we do. We are Americans and we're going to take care of the American people. Now, if there's a thousand or two thousand people a year that we want to go pluck out of other nations because they're master super geniuses and we want them to come here. Think of someone like Elon Musk from South Africa. That's someone that we can go pluck out. I believe in the brain drain, but I don't want to even allow a million legal immigrants into our country, much less do I want to allow 20 million illegal immigrants to ever have a home here. We should push these people out of our country. We should make America for Americans, and we should get back to defining what American culture is. And that is something that a vast majority of people on the right do not believe in. These centrists just because people have Rs next to their name, does not believe they'll mean that they are conservative and does not mean that they will actually fight for you when they get to Washington, D.C. i have seen it hundreds of times. They will offer them power and they will offer them money, and they will bend the knee and they will backstab you.
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A
So where can people find out more about your campaign and your policies?
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B
Yep. Madison cawthorn.com or on any social media at Madison Cawthorne. I really appreciate you giving me the opportunity to talk about my platform. Haley and I just. This is. There's such a great show. Thank you so much.
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Of course. I'm glad to have you here. And I know that you're planning a wedding, so I wanted to say congratulations. And I'm sure planning a wedding and running a campaign at the same time has got to be a doozy. So thank you for all that you're doing and of course, thank you for being here as always.
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B
Absolutely. Thank you so much. All right, talk soon, guys.
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A
Bye. Thanks so much. Madison. That was awesome.
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B
Oh, that was great. Thank you.
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A
Yay. All right, talk to you soon.
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B
Thanks for bringing up the wedding.
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A
I'll be in touch.
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Alicia is having to plan the wedding all by herself because I'm in the campaign so much, and so she's kicking
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ass, I was gonna say. Yeah, she's probably. Yeah, she's in the trenches. You're in the trenches. That's awesome, though. Congratulations.
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It's all kinds of fun. Well, thank you. All right, everybody. Thank you all so much. Thank you, Haley.
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A
See ya.
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C
Ya.
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A
And thanks to all of you for tuning into this episode. I appreciate every single one of you. And you can follow me on social media at Haley Carania, and I'll see you right back here tomorrow. Bye. The United States Soccer Federation presents the U.S. soccer Podcast. The place where I, Megan Klingenberg, a World cup expert, teaches you everything that you need to know for this summer's World Cup.
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A
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