Mamdani’s Latest Moves Spark Outrage! - Scrolling w/ Hayley (Ep. 349)

Summary

Scrolling with Hayley – Ep. 349

Title: Mamdani’s Latest Moves Spark Outrage!
Host: Hayley Caronia
Date: July 29, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Hayley Caronia delivers her signature sharp, unapologetic conservative commentary on several headline-grabbing topics, focusing primarily on New York City Mayor Zoran Mamdani’s sweeping progressive policies and their fallout. Hayley covers the economic and social backlash to Mamdani’s proposals—free public transit, government-run discount grocery stores, new taxes on luxury real estate—as well as taking detours into controversial school programs in Minnesota, New York's experiment with robot tutors, Starbucks’ questionable new beverage ingredients, and biotech figure Brian Johnson’s self-cloning announcement. Hayley, in her candid and humorous style, critiques what she sees as the unintended consequences of progressive policies, culture-war news, and public health fads.

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1. Mamdani’s Free-Bus Fare Proposal and Taxation Plans

[03:00–06:00]

• Mayor Zoran Mamdani’s Proposal: Mamdani earlier pitched free bus fares for New Yorkers, funded by raising taxes:

  • Top 1% income tax up by 2% (raising $4 billion)
  • Corporate tax matched to New Jersey’s rate (raising $5 billion)
    • “We will fund the revenue that would have otherwise been brought in from fares…raise taxes on the top 1%...” (Mamdani, [03:00])

• Hayley’s Reaction: She lambasts the idea as “tax people so others get free things,” concluding “it works for the lowest of the low [but] anyone else in the middle, you get totally screwed.” ([03:18])

• Financial Reality: The city would lose $700 million–$1.1 billion in revenue annually if fares were made free. Even at $2.75 per ride, New Yorkers expect more: “You promise them more, they're always going to take, take, take, take, take.” (Hayley, [04:37])

Notable Quote

• “It's like someone running for middle school class president. ‘Yeah, we're not going to have any homework and we're going to have pizza parties on Fridays.’ You can't actually implement that.” — Hayley ([04:37])

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2. Government-Run Discount Grocery Stores Proposal

[06:49–10:40]

• New Policy: Five city-run grocery stores will offer basic goods (bread, cheese, milk) at 30% below retail, once a month.

  • “No exceptions, no gimmicks. The savings will last for the entire month.” (Mamdani, [06:49])

• Critique: Hayley calls out the mislabeling of the program as “free grocery stores”—in reality, goods are only discounted, and limited in selection.

• She predicts socialists will still be unsatisfied: “Nothing in this grocery store is free.”

• Security Concerns: Hayley compares this to locked-up products in NYC pharmacies due to theft: “If you discount bread by 30%, people are still going to steal this stuff. ... It’ll fail faster.” ([07:19])

• Immigrant Business Backlash: Multicultural Business Coalition (representing 50 chambers of commerce) plans lawsuit for unfair competition.

  • “Why would people want to shop at the struggling mom and pop shop when they can get government bread on the cheap?” (Hayley, [11:32])

Memorable Moments

• “The only thing that's going to make these people happy is if they can deliver free groceries to their doorstep...” — Hayley ([10:16])
• “If you have ever been to a DMV in New York City, ... it’s like a total shit show.” ([10:43])

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3. “Tax the Rich” and Real Estate Policies

[13:35–18:01]

• Pied-à-terre Tax: New annual tax on luxury properties >$5 million owned by non-residents, targeting “the richest of the rich.”

  • “This is a fundamentally unfair system that hurts working New Yorkers. Now it's coming to an end.” (Mamdani, [13:35])

• Hayley’s Skepticism: Points out the mismatch between new taxes and projected needs, warning taxes will merely drive wealthy people out. She highlights Governor Hochul formerly telling rich New Yorkers to "get out of town" but now inviting them back due to eroding tax base.

Notable Quotes

• “How would $500 million extra pay for cleaner streets when this guy wants to close the jails and get rid of cops?” — Hayley ([14:38])
• “He needs their money but he also needs to keep his voters happy. ... He's biting the hand that's going to feed him.” ([18:13])

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4. LeBron James & The Political Optics of Taxes

[19:39–22:55]

• Rumors of LeBron James moving to NYC to play for the 76ers and commuting to Philadelphia.
• Hochul’s office reportedly excited to tax LeBron’s hypothetical luxury property, but the scenario wouldn’t actually fit the tax criteria if NYC became his primary residence.
• Hayley jokes: “He should go live in Philadelphia just because of this tweet. ... Save the money and avoid New York City at all costs.” ([21:56])

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5. Hochul’s Contradictory Messaging on Wealthy New Yorkers

[22:55–24:46]

• 2022: “If you’re Trump and Zeldin... jump on a bus and head down to Florida...” — Hochul ([22:55])
• 2026: “I need people who are high net worth to support the generous social programs…” — Hochul ([23:40])
• Hayley highlights this about-face as proof that progressive policies drive out the people who fund social programs.

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6. Broader Impact on New Yorkers, Conservatives, and "Blue Flight"

[24:46–26:54]

• Hayley empathizes with Republicans “stuck” in blue states and resists the narrative that all New Yorkers chose these policies—“A lot of people didn’t sign up for that.” ([25:24])
• “It stinks.” — Hayley on blue-state one-party dominance ([26:54])

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7. Minnesota’s “Transgender Dolls” Controversy

[27:39–33:41]

• Coverage of the University of Minnesota’s “My Gender Dolls,” a therapeutic tool for gender-diverse children (ages 4–10), criticized by conservative outlets.
• Hayley critiques the normalization of childhood gender questioning, blaming progressive parenting and “gentle parenting.”
  • “Children would not come up with this on their own. It's not something that is being naturally brought up. It's being brought up in a school setting.” ([34:25])

Notable Exchange

• “Why are there therapists affirming this instead of getting to the root cause...?” — Hayley ([33:41])

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8. Robot Tutors in New York Schools: “Sally” the Humanoid

[34:54–42:14]

• Salamanca City school district introduces $57,590 AI-powered humanoid “Sally” as a classroom tutor.

• Hayley and guests predict this will backfire, leading to robot “bullying,” vandalism, and wasting school budgets.

• “People are going to undress her... Clanker. Freaking clankers in the classroom. It’s crazy.” — Hayley ([36:22])

• Price Outrage: “You could hire two teachers for the price of one robo tutor.” ([38:08])

• Uncanny Valley Concerns: “Why does she have to be a pseudo attractive woman? ... It’s all very scary. And none of this is necessary.” ([40:45])

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9. Starbucks’ Controversial “Blending Powder” Ingredient

[42:14–54:29]

• Starbucks adds a food-grade silica-based powder to blended drinks to stabilize appearance; baristas report coughing, throat irritation.
• Hayley and guests dissect the ingredient list: “slop” in the form of gums, maltodextrin, xanthan gum, and silica—typically used in cosmetics and processed foods for texture.
• “This is what they're feeding you. ... Our food is a science experiment, and this has to stop. This is not healthy.” — Industry Expert ([49:48])

Key Insights

• Starbucks defends the powder as FDA-approved, but Hayley questions, “Do we believe them?”

• Hayley’s “White Girl Starbucks Order:” “The brown shaken sugar espresso... but I never really allow myself to drink that because it’s for calorie purposes.” ([52:12])

• “We're paying with our health.” — Hayley on consumer preference for good-looking, shelf-stable food ([54:50])

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10. Brian Johnson, Biohacking, and the Clone in a Petri Dish

[55:56–62:28]

• Profile of Brian Johnson, the “biohacker” seeking to reverse aging and now announcing he’s “cloned himself as a newborn” using his own cells.
• Hayley and guests debate the ethics, faith, and philosophy: is it medical innovation or playing God?
• “I don’t think he’s looking younger... it’s so weird to try to cheat mortality, right?” — Co-host ([58:13])
• “You have to wonder why someone would want to live forever. Is that really a good thing? ... It’s demonic.” — Hayley ([61:07])

Notable Quotes

• “This is peak secularism... If you don't consider a child in the womb as a child, then of course you can run tests on it.” — Co-host ([62:07–62:28])

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11. Spirited Closing: Faith, Values, and Life’s Purpose

[61:07–62:56]

• Hayley closes by reflecting on faith’s role in confronting death and the futility of radical attempts to defeat mortality, contrasting Christian hope with secular “biohacking” trends.

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Key Timestamps and Highlights

| Timestamp | Topic/Quote | Speaker | |-----------|-------------|---------| | 03:00–06:00 | Free bus fare, tax the rich proposal, reality check | Mamdani, Hayley | | 06:49–10:40 | Discount grocery stores, theft concerns, market backlash | Mamdani, Hayley, Co-host | | 13:35–18:01 | Luxury real estate tax, “tax the rich” rhetoric | Mamdani, Hayley | | 19:39–22:55 | LeBron James speculative taxation, contradiction | Co-host, Hayley | | 22:55–24:46 | Hochul’s messaging flip-flop | Hochul, Hayley | | 27:39–33:41 | “Transgender dolls” in Minnesota schools debate | Haley, Guests, Reporter | | 34:54–42:14 | Robot tutors in NY schools: “Sally” | Haley, Co-hosts | | 42:14–54:29 | Starbucks blending powder, health concerns | Haley, Employees, Industry Expert | | 55:56–62:28 | Brian Johnson’s clone, biohacking, ethics | Haley, Co-hosts |

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Memorable Quotes

• “It's like someone running for middle school class president. ‘Yeah, we're not going to have any homework and we're going to have pizza parties on Fridays.’ You can't actually implement that.” — Hayley ([04:37])
• “Why would people want to shop at the struggling mom and pop shop when they can get government bread on the cheap?” — Hayley ([11:32])
• “He needs their money but he also needs to keep his voters happy. ... He's biting the hand that's going to feed him.” — Hayley ([18:13])
• "Children would not come up with this on their own. ... It's being brought up in a school setting." — Hayley ([34:25])
• “Why does she have to be a pseudo attractive woman?” — Hayley on robot tutor Sally ([40:45])
• “Our food is a science experiment, and this has to stop. This is not healthy.” — Industry Expert ([49:48])
• “You have to wonder why someone would want to live forever. Is that really a good thing? ... It’s demonic.” — Hayley ([61:07])

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Conclusion

This episode of Scrolling with Hayley skewers the latest progressive policies in New York City, explores the culture war at school and in tech, and sounds the alarm on overreach—from food science gone too far to the ethical perils of self-cloning. Through her energetic, sarcastic, and uncompromising lens, Hayley pushes listeners to question, critique, and—above all—remain vigilant about the direction of American society.

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Transcript

[Haley]

Hello.

Happy Wednesday, everyone. Is everyone excited watching Dr. Fauci squirm? I mean, he's obviously pleading the fifth. This whole thing is so crazy. Maybe we'll break some of this down tomorrow. But first, we've got New York City Mayor Zo Ran Mumdani. He announced business crushing policies over the last few days. I'm sure his lower income and lower IQ voters don't care or don't know to care. Then we are. We are running into an issue in some schools in not only Minnesota where they have transgender dolls. Or maybe they might have some transgender dolls. Why is this for kids? Then we've got an issue in New York schools. They've got robots for kids. Can we just leave the schools alone? I mean, it seems like they're throwing everything. No kids can read anymore. But it's like, here, look at this transgender doll here. Look at this robot. It's getting crazy. Then Starbucks drinks have a brand new ingredient that has its own baristas thinking twice about serving it. And biohacker Brian Johnson says he's cloned himself as a baby in a petri dish. What could go wrong? What could go right? All of that and so much more. But first, I want you to subscribe to this show, rumble.com Haley brings you to them on Gina Report channel. That's where you can watch Vince at 8 and me live at noon. And I hope you do. Everyone live in the chat right now already knows that. I don't have to tell you twice. I don't care how you watch or listen the show. If you can't catch us live, you can watch whenever you want on Rumble or on Spotify. Listen on your favorite podcast platform and please tell a friend, share the link. I appreciate it. I also want to like to to support our sponsors like Quo, Most customers aren't waiting around for a callback. Maybe they're trying to book an appointment. Maybe they're looking for a quote. Maybe they just need help now, whatever it is, if nobody answers, they're calling the next business on the list. This is what happened to me earlier today. I'm trying to find someone to tailor a dress for me, and every time I call this one alterations place, they don't answer. They should use Quo anyway. That's why today's episode is brought to you by Quo. It is the business phone system built so that you never miss a call. With Quo, all of your calls, texts, and voicemails live in one place. So your whole team can jump in, see the full conversation history, and respond fast. Without confusion. It is trusted by over 90,000 businesses to stay reachable and look professional every single day. Setup takes minutes on any device. You can keep your existing number, scale your team without any IT headaches. Plus Quo's built in AI agent handles after hours calls, answers questions and even books appointments. So I opportunities never slip through the cracks. Money's on the line. Always say hello with Quo. Try quo for free. Plus get 20% off your first six months when you go to quo.com scroll. That is q u o.com scroll. Put those phones on. Do not disturb. The show starts now. Remember when New York City Mayor Zoran Mamdani introduced the concept of free buses paid for by the evil 1% watch. The question is how you'll make them free.

[Zoran Mamdani]

We will fund the revenue that would have otherwise been brought in from fairs. And that's something that we would do in partnership with Albany. And I've put forward two proposals. The first is to raise taxes on the top 1% of New Yorkers by 2%. That would raise $4 billion. The second is to raise the state's top corporate tax rate to match that of New Jersey, which would raise $5 billion.

[Haley]

We're gonna, okay, so basically just tax people and you know, other people get free things. It works for the lowest of the low. Anyone else in the middle, you get totally screwed. And the citywide free fair proposal is not happening as Mamdani promised, due to the fact that it would cost the city somewhere between 700 million and $1.1 billion annually in lost revenue. It's hilarious.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

You were just in New York. Wasn't it only 3 $3.

[Haley]

It's like 270 something to go.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

Now I know that adds up. But parking in Miami? 250amonth, 500amonth. Definitely easier to take the bus.

[Haley]

Here's the crazy thing. If you want to drive in New York City, you can't. I mean, you would have to be part of the top 1% to have a car in New York City. It is crazy the amount of parking. Unless you live in an apartment building that offers free parking, which is nothing's free ever. But nothing's free in New York City. And I remember, I think my apartment building that I lived in had a parking garage, but it was a thousand dollars a month if you wanted to park your car, which is a rent payment.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

Yeah. So needless to say, 250 for a bus ride.

[Haley]

Man, listen. So people can't afford to drive in New York City. That's why I didn't drive for almost 10 years before I moved here because it's. It's an impossibility if you. If you are a normal person and you're not a bajillionaire, you can't really have a car. So you use public transportation. And New York City does have great public transportation for all the craziness that happens on is affordable. And people are upset that it's less than $3 a ride. I think when I was living there, it was probably 250, and it's gone up to 275. Maybe it's higher now. I don't know exactly. I could check my bank statement, but everything's like, tap to pay now. And someone in the chat is just in disbelief that it's $1,000 a month to park. And again, that was six years ago that I lived there. So, yeah, it's a lot of fricking money if you want to drive. That's not to mention you have to pay for your car and the insurance, like, just to park it. It's a. It's an extra rent payment. So out of reach for most people. And, yeah, I'm. I certainly couldn't drive. That's why I didn't. And the public transportation is good, but people want it for free, right? It's not good enough for it to be $6 a day, you know, to go to the work and back or go wherever and back. It's people. People want more. And that's the thing. You promise them more. They're always going to take, take, take, take, take. They're. They're going to want more. Plus, when Mamdani was running and he said, yeah, everything's going to be free. Don't worry. Just vote for me. Everything's going to be free. It's like a. It's like someone running for middle school class president. And they're like, yeah, we're not going to have any homework and we're going to have pizza parties on Fridays. You can't actually implement that. And this is exactly what happened to him. Governor Hochul would have needed to get on board with this free fare business because Mamdani doesn't control the mta, the subway fares, or the buses, or anything like that. The governor does. And she was not willing to forego $1 billion in lost revenue. And I don't blame her. That would be crazy. But despite giving himself, Mamdani a pay raise, he hasn't forgotten who put him in office. It's the young democratic socialists who want their government freebies. So this was his latest free proposal and that's grocery stores Watch.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Here's how it will work. Once a month, our five city run grocery stores will set prices for this core set of goods at 30% below typical retail prices. No exceptions, no gimmicks. The savings will last for the entire month. That means no weekly fluctuations nor sticker shock at the checkout line.

[Haley]

Nice. No sticker shock. It's going to be free.

Free.

Free. Almost free. No, it's going to be discounted. Right. So even the free grocery stores are not free. Close, close.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

Government does so well with everything else. I definitely need it in control of what I'm eating.

[Haley]

And it's funny because this concept of free grocery stores or free food, this has been tried before. Not long term, but Poly Market and Kalshi did this like gimmicky free grocery store esque events, promotional, of course. They get people talking about Polymarket and Kalshi. Polymarket opened a free grocery store for less than a week. I think it was five days. And Kalshee gave people gift cards for grocery stores. I think Kalshee did it first and then Polymarket up the ante and did the actual brick and mortar free grocery store. Again, both of these were not government funded. They were philanthropic, philanthropic endeavors. And they were also marketing ploys. It made sense. Oh, everyone gets talking about free grocery stores in New York City. Free grocery stores. And it's not really, you know, what Mamdani promised. But this is, you know, along those lines, it gets people talking. They were never meant to be sustainable. And I think even Mamdani knows that free grocery stores are a pipe dream. So there's going to be five locations with limited products like bread, cheese and milk that are going to be discounted by 30%. This isn't a free grocery store. The products aren't even. I mean, will the socialists buy this as a win? They have to pay. And nothing in this grocery store is free. I mean, you can argue that a little goes a long way. Maybe this will help poorer people. But we already know how this goes as it is convenience stores and pharmacies and bodegas. If you go into a CVS or a Walgreens in New York City, they have to lock up basic products like soap, deodorant because people in New York City can't stop stealing those items. So will the discounted prices discourage those kinds of people from stealing? Of course not. We were just talking about how reasonable the fares are in New York City. As it stands, you know, it's less than $3. And people are still jumping turnstiles because they don't want to pay it. They don't want to pay $3. So even if you discount bread by 30%, people are still going to steal this stuff. They're going to think, oh well, this is a government run grocery store, so therefore I can steal from it. I actually think this will encourage poor stealing than going to Walgreens or CVS or Whole Foods or anything like that. I think people will be more likely to steal from them and it'll fail faster.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

Maybe it'll be very luxurious. And each individual who enters a store gets an attendant to follow them around and unlock each case of every single item.

[Haley]

It's so, it's really frustrating. I mean, it makes the consumer experience so frustrating to hey, I just need to run into wall. It's supposed to be fast, right? You go into this convenience store, it's supposed to be convenient and it's like, okay, I just need to grab this one thing. Oh no. Well, now I have to push a button and now I have to wait for someone in a red polo shirt to come find me wherever I am. And then they have to open it up and hand me the deodorant. It's like, this is ridiculous. This is. I'm just going to order it online. They make it so the in person consumer experience is so inconvenient that it forces you to shop online anyway. And this discourages brick and mortar stores and mom and pop stores anyway. No one even wants to shop in real life anymore. They just want it delivered to their door anyway. The only thing that's going to make these people happy is if they can deliver free groceries to their doorstep and they don't have to pay the delivery driver. Like nothing makes sense.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

Oh, they'll find something to complain about within that 100%.

[Haley]

And in the case of taxpayer funded grocery stores, the New Yorkers are going to pay the price. Not only will they likely get a poor customer experience like we've been talking about, because if you have ever been to a DMV in New York City, which I have, you know that it takes eight hours for what takes a fraction of the time in other states, for whatever reason, when you have to get a new idea in New York, you sit there all day long. When I went in Tennessee and in Florida, I was in and out in 15 minutes, maybe 30 minutes. Great experience. I never had to wait in a DMV in a red state. But for whatever reason in New York City, it's just Like a total shit show. So maybe the grocery store will run like that. Can't wait to see how that turns out. So now the city will run this. Taxpayers will fund it. Taxpayers are going to lose out. And immigrant business owners are even pissed. Take a look at this headline for the New York Post. They say that immigrant led business group votes to sue New York City over Mamdani's taxpayer funded grocery stores, alleging unfair competition. Which is true. This is the Multicultural Business Coalition's board. They filed this lawsuit to sue Mamdani to block this move. Because if there's going to be a taxpayer funded grocery store around the corner, why would anyone go to the mom and pop again? I think that people are just going to end up stealing anyway, but whatever. And this group was actually formed to raise money to fight against Mamdani's initiatives. They're made up of business owners from 50 chambers of commerce. They represent Asian, African, Caribbean, Hispanic, Middle Eastern and Jewish owned businesses. They've already raised $1 million to fight Mamdani's grocery stores because they say that this will create unfair advantage over the local businesses. And they're right. Why would people want to shop at the struggling mom and pop shop when they can get government bread on the cheap? And the people who voted for Mamdani aren't even going to shop at these places. If I had to guess, they're the rich white liberal Karens who voted for him because it was the choice that wouldn't get them canceled. And it was also the choice that seemed popular. He was young. He had these fantastical revolutionary ideas. Who cares if he can't implement them? It was the thought that counted. They felt good voting for Momdani. They get to pat themselves on the back. And I guarantee you the people who voted for Mamdani are still going to shop at Trader Joe's and Whole Foods and sip on $10 lattes after their $40 pilates class. And if I had to put money on it, the government run taxpayer funded grocery stores will be a very short lived experiment. Sort of like how the buses fell flat on its face, the free bus fares. This is going to fall flat on its face too. They'll run out of money, it'll be a flop, and then they'll try to quietly close them without upsetting the voters. And they're going to hope that people don't notice. And Mamdani has already pissed off plenty of rich New Yorkers as it is. A few months back on tax day April 15, Mamdani posted this video outside of Citadel CEO Ken Griffin's mansion.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

Watch.

[Zoran Mamdani]

When I ran for mayor, I said I was gonna tax the rich. Well, today, we're taxing the rich. I'm thrilled to announce we've secured a pied a terre tax, the first in New York's history. This is an annual fee on luxury properties worth more than $5 million, whose owners do not live full time in the city. Like for this penthouse, which hedge fund CEO Ken Griffin bought for $238 million. This pier to terre tax is specifically designed for the richest of the rich, those who store their wealth in New York city real estate, but who don't actually live here. But even so, they're able to reap the huge financial rewards of owning property in, dare I say, the greatest city in the world. And most of the time, these units are sitting empty, since, again, they don't actually live here. This is a fundamentally unfair system that hurts working New Yorkers. Now it's coming to an end. This tax will raise at least5.500 million dollars directly for the city. It'll help fund things like free childcare, cleaner streets, and safer neighborhoods. As mayor, I believe everyone has a role to play in contributing to our city, and some a little bit more than others. Happy tax day, New York.

[Haley]

How would 500 million extra dollars pay for cleaner streets when this guy wants to close the jails and. And get rid of cops? Like, what is their idea of safer streets, I wonder?

[Co-host or Guest 1]

I just find it so interesting. Florida has a lot of second homes, and we are not having the same issues that seem to be plaguing.

[Haley]

Well, we're not begging the taxpayers to fund a bunch of random stuff and childcare for people. Again, like, I know that there's issues with child care. It's very expensive, and, you know, again, we can get into, you know, all of that. But, yeah, this seems to be a uniquely socialist problem where they're. They're desperate for rich people to pay for this stuff, but then they're pissing them off. And bom. Donnie doesn't want them to own extra real estate in New York. He wants them to live there full time and then also fund the freebies. And this sparked beef between him and Kevin Griffin. Rightfully so. Because if I was wealthy and I had a nice piece of property in New York City, I wouldn't want angry liberals to know where I live. They're not the kindest or most respectful. They're actually known for destruction of property. The same kind of people who are cheering on the UnitedHealthcare CEO being shot in the back for no reason, in broad daylight, because it was symbolic of their frustration with the system. There was no Target on that CEO's back, necessarily, but his murder was celebrated by the left. And now Mamdani has doxed one of the richest people in New York, and he's still committed to doing this, by the way, the bill was passed in May. It was signed by Governor Hochul, and it took effect earlier this month on July 1, and is scheduled to end in 2031, unless it's extended. And again, this is supposed to raise $500 million per year, which is funny, because the government. The free buses were. That's. That would have lost 1.1 billion per year. I mean, none of the math is making sense. They're not making back what they need to make to pay for all this free stuff. And it's not even free, but whatever. So this is going to affect 10,000 to 13,000 properties, something around there. And this is imposed in addition to regular New York City property taxes. These people are already paying state and city taxes out the wazoo. But what's another tax for the rich, I guess. And there will be ways to get around this, by the way, because this is supposed to take effect for properties that are valued at more than $5 million that. That aren't being used as a primary residence. So all these people have to do is find someone to sign a lease and say that they're living there. And they probably don't even have to live there. But there will be loopholes if these elites want to stay in New York. But I can't imagine why they would. But it's just funny that he's trying to, like, tax the rich. Tax the rich. Tax the rich. They will always find a way to game the system and good for them. Good for them. Mamdani posted this last week on Twitter. He said this. If you have a second home in New York City worth more than $5 million, check your mailbox when you get back in the five boroughs, because you've got mail. Today we sent notification letters to property owners letting them know that our new Pied A terror tax is coming soon. The best city in the world deserves to have the best parks, libraries, and schools in the world. And that's only possible when we pay our fair share. They're already paying their fair share. Ken Griffin is paying almost a million dollars in property taxes as it is. Like, what more do you want? They want everyone to be poor.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

Haley, do you remember ever asking your parents for money and then Being mean to them, being meat. It feels like he's begging for money and then is being so rude and smug about the whole situation.

[Haley]

Well, it's funny because he needs their money, but he also needs to keep his voters happy. And this kind of stunt makes his voters happy because he thinks that they're sticking it to the rich people and eating the rich and whatever. But he's pissing off. He's biting the hand that's going to feed him hundred percent. So the whole thing is just. He's trying to like talk out of both sides of his mouth a little bit. Obviously it's not working. But I think his voters are so stupid that they don't care. They don't care if Ken Griffin moves. You know what I mean? But they don't understand that that's he was going to be paying for their free buses. You know, it's just, it's very funny. But Bamdani is very committed to doxing the rich still. And his administration published a searchable database last week of properties that could fall under the state's Pieter tax. So they're basically saying, you know, you can go on this website and search all the rich people that we're going to tax this is. And find out where they live and what they're paying. I mean, this is a stupid stunt. It's dangerous considering what the left has become. But in an effort to appease these voters and make them believe that Mamdani is making good on his promises to take tax the rich, he's pissing off the people that are gonna have to pay up. And Governor Hochul's office is apparently on board with all of this. These Pieter taxes. It's reported that LeBron James is going to live in New York City and commute to Philly. Is. When does he start playing for The Sixers? The 76ers?

[Co-host or Guest 1]

This coming season.

[Haley]

When does that start?

[Co-host or Guest 1]

October.

[Haley]

Okay, so, you know, makes sense. He's gonna play in Philly. He's looking for somewhere to live in the area. Where does he live now? Cleveland.

[Zoran Mamdani]

He's.

[Haley]

Cleveland.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

He's in LA right now.

[Haley]

Oh, LA.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

So he'll be moving up to the east coast.

[Haley]

This is how much I know about LeBron James. Sorry.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

You're doing good. You're doing good. Live in Cleveland at one point.

[Haley]

Okay, so we're. We're almost there. We're 50% there. So LeBron James, you know, and I don't like LeBron James, but whatever. He is going to play in Philly and he's Looking for somewhere to live. So he's thinking of living in New York City and commuting to Philly, which is actually quite absurd, but he is going to plan to commute via helicopter. So I guess it's less absurd if you're super rich. Normal people would have to commute two plus hours from Philly to New York City and vice versa. But you know, when you're LeBron James, the rules don't apply to you. So Kathy Hochul's office posted this on X, which is really bizarre. They can't wait to tax LeBron James. I mean, so this is a post. Evan Sidi posted this on X. LeBron James will be a resident of New York City while playing for the Sixers. LeBron James is officially set to commute every day via helicopter. And Governor Hochul's office said, le pied a terre le pieder. So they're excited to tax LeBron James. This doesn't even make sense. Because how would it.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

How would.

[Haley]

How would this apply to LeBron James if he's actually living in New York City and commuting every day?

[Co-host or Guest 1]

Helicopter, I believe.

[Haley]

No, I'm saying. Not that he could do whatever the f he wants, but they're saying we're going to tax you. But they're. This, Pieter tax is taxing people who have a second home in New York City and don't actually live in it. It's not their primary residence.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

Oh, I see. I.

[Haley]

This would be his primary residence.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

This is their. In this scenario. Which has not been confirmed.

[Haley]

Right.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

Which is crazy to not confirmed.

[Haley]

And they're like, listen, if you're thinking about living here and commuting.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

Correct.

[Haley]

We will tax you. Even though this isn't. What. That doesn't even apply.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

Yeah, yeah. So the. The rumor is you will live in New York. He will helicopter into Philadelphia every day for team whatever events.

[Haley]

And slowpoke in the chat just said, why doesn't LeBron James live in Philadelphia? Delphia, this is exactly the point I was just about to make because I don't like LeBron James. I think he's a crybaby liberal and he's annoy. But he should go live in Philadelphia just because of this tweet. He should reply to this tweet and be like, f off. See you never. I'm going to Philly. That he should do that. Go live in Philly, save the money that he would have spent on all of his helicopter rides, and avoid New York City at all costs. I just don't understand how and again, they could tax LeBron James. And if he was living in New York City, he would be paying those taxes. And they could. This is an extra millionaire that would be coming to, to New York City, and they're scaring him away. So we have Hamdani scaring people away. And Kathy Hochul tried this line of questioning and this, this theory back in 2022. She was essentially saying, rich people be gone. We don't want you here. Listen to this.

[Kathy Hochul]

Fighting to bring government back to the people and out of the hands of dictators. And we're here to say that the era of Trump and Zeldin and Molinaro, just jump on a bus and head down to Florida where you belong, okay? Get out of town. Get out of town. Because you don't. You don't represent our values. You are not New Yorkers. You're not New York.

[Haley]

Basically, if you're rich and you live in New York, they don't want you to live in New York. They want you to leave. Which is bizarre. But then in 2026, now she's walking this whole thing back. I mean, she told all these rich people to leave, and now she's saying, we actually need you to come back.

[Kathy Hochul]

Watch. I need people who are high net worth to support the generous social programs that we want to have in our state right now. There are some patriotic millionaires who stepped up. Okay, cut me the checks if you want to be supportive, but maybe the first step should be go down to Palm beach and see who you can bring back home. Because our tax base has been eroded. So I feel soft. We don't have a problem. It is like, I have to look at the fact that we are in competition with other states who have less of a tax burden on their corporations and their individuals. And I would say remote work changed everything. There are people who could only work in an office in Manhattan and work in New York State, and they were captives to our state. They were going to stay. We saw that that's not the case. I mean, you know, Wall street businesses looking at Texas, they're not going there because they have a nicer governor. I know that for sure. But they're going there because of the tax rate. We have to be smart about this. But we can fund what we want to fund with what we already.

[Haley]

Isn't it funny how quickly they go from tax the rich get out of town to we have to be smart about this now? Because it turns out that New York City would be nothing without successful businesses and the rich people who run Those businesses. And if you scare them all away, nobody's going to be left to tax out the wazoo. And then the next richest people will be holding the bag. And then when they crumble under that weight, they'll leave. And then it'll just be the poorest of the poor living off the government. That's not gonna be a city worth living in. It won't even be a city worth visiting. And I see this discourse all the time. I saw this on X yesterday. I mean, people say, well, that's New York. You know, screw them. They voted for this deal with the consequences. The reality is there are a lot of New Yorkers who are conservative who did not vote for that. There are a lot of New Yorkers who didn't want Mamdani or Hochul, and now they're stuck with for whatever reason because of a job or their family. There are a lot of reasons why Republicans live in New York. I was a Republican who lived in New York and I. My family is Republican and they live in New York. And there are farmers who live in New York and they're Republican. You know what I mean? There are business owners who are Republican and they live in New York. As much as I support leaving New York and moving somewhere else, I did that. I lived there. It was dangerous, it was dirty, it was disgusting, it was expensive. I got a job opportunity elsewhere. It was more financially and fiscally responsible for me to live in a red state. So I did. And that's not the reality for everyone. Like, not. It's not feasible for everyone to just pick up and move. So I feel for the people who are in a bind now because of these poor policies, especially when they didn't vote for them. I just. I hate the narrative that it's like, we'll screw them. This is the socialist experiment they signed up for. A lot of people didn't sign up for that. A lot of people voted for Cuomo. A lot of people voted for Curtis Sliwa. A lot of people didn't want Mamdani enough voted for him where he's in office. But it's not, you know, it's not everyone, and certainly not every New Yorker voted for Hochul. It's not representative of the whole state at all. It's representative of the amount of people that live in New York City and this blue dot, and they kind of make up the reality for the rest of the people who live there. It stinks.

[Zoran Mamdani]

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[Haley]

Moving on to a different blue state, Minnesota. Tim Walls is Minnesota. My goodness. I mean, they're concerned about putting tampons in the boys bathrooms and now they're apparently the University of Minnesota is working on transgender dolls for children.

[Kathy Hochul]

Watch.

[Haley]

This University of Minnesota program involving children who may identify as transgender is under national scrutiny.

[Jim Rome]

Tonight.

[Haley]

Conservative outlets claim kids as young as four would be given what are called

[Jim Rome]

My Gender Dolls and Governor Tim Walls help drive that effort, according to them.

[Haley]

Well, I learned that there's not a lot of information publicly available about the project. I also learned that most schools, at least the ones I reached out to, didn't know about it ahead of time until I called. These are My Gender Dolls. It's a project from the Eli Coleman Institute for Sexual and Gender Health at the University of Minnesota. According to the website, these paper dolls are, quote, built to help children tell their stories and see themselves represented and are designed for the clin and educators who show up for these kids every day. The only part of the website currently active is the wait list. The website does not say when the dolls would be available to the public. We do know that in the spring of 2023, the project run by Diane Berg and G. Nick Ryder won an Early Innovation Fund grant. According to the university's website, those are grants up to $10,000 available to short term projects at the university that advance early stage innovations. The money comes from the sale of technology the university helped develop. It's unclear how much total money the project got, but will these paper dolls be in your child's school? Hi, this is Pilar Pedrazo with kstp. Not from what we learned. I'm just doing a quick survey of I called the 19 largest school districts in the seven counties that make up the Twin Cities metro.

[Jim Rome]

Thank you.

[Haley]

Appreciate it. Six got back to us. None had heard of the My Gender Dolls project and none plan to use it. We also reached out to the Minnesota Department of Education which said this isn't its program and sent us back to the university. And would it be given to children as young as four? Well, the website says the dolls are a, quote, first of their kind, therapeutic play approach designed for gender diverse children ages 4 to 10. Finally, we reached out to the governor's office, which told us in a text, Governor Waltz has no connection to this program and it's not being implemented by the state. And the researchers behind this program responded to our request for information late this afternoon with a statement saying that it will not be used in public schools or any schools. That the program is designed for licensed clinicians, people like psychologists who are already working with kids dealing with gender issues. It's designed to be used only in a therapeutic session setting after they have had specialized training in how to use the paper dolls.

Oh my goodness. This is just one of those things that would only happen in Minnesota or like Seattle or somewhere like that. We're building it, they're working on it. They're working on it.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

We're not going to implement it in any way, but if we were, there's a website you could go to, but it doesn't. You can't order it. But there's a way.

[Haley]

But you will be could. There's a wait list for it. And someone in the chat said they're lying. Someone else in the chat said children would not know what gender is unless it was for adults explaining it to them. That's 100 true. Did you ever think about your sex or gender when you were a kid? I never thought about it. It was just like a fact of life. I knew that I was a girl. I. Back in the 90s and early 2000s, it was. Nobody was questioning their gender or their sex. It was just, you are a girl, you are a boy. That's it. Nobody was questioning any. You can't quite. What is there to question? It's just a fact. And I don't know where we, how we really got here. I mean, obviously we can point at a liberal and, and thank them for this, but I don't really know how we got to this point where there are. The University of Minnesota is working on these dolls and there are so many therapists and people who are working with children in this way that it's gotten normalized to that point. It's very scary that it's gotten normalized to that point. So they say that this won't be used in schools. Maybe it won't, but they say it's gonna be used in therapeutic sessions. So you're telling me that there aren't child psychologists at schools? Of course there are. I mean, they're being developed by the University of Minnesota. They got a grant to do this. So who paid for the grant. Right. They're also being developed because they think that children need this. They're being developed to use with children in therapy. The fact that they're adults who. Who want to speak to children about swapping their gender is concerning for many reasons. The first being it's a lie. You can't swap your biological sex. You can undergo surgery to remove your healthy genitalia, but that should not be pushed on children or anyone in any way. And I question the parents of children who are questioning their genders. Why is that? Why is your child questioning it? Is because you allow them to. Because if I have a kid one day and they say, hey, I went to school. And so. And so in class, you know, Kai or whatever, they call themselves, like Kai or Sky or whatever, they always have these crazy names. You know, they say that they are she. They or whatever. I'm going to be like, you're not like that. You're not like that. They're confused. You're not. You just have to shut it down. I don't know really why we used to shut these things down. I don't know why parents aren't doing that anymore. I think it's because they've gotten into this mindset where they're. They're indoctrinated. Like, the parents are also being indoctrinated. It's not just the kids. The kids are in this because their parents are politically indoctrinated. They feel like they are doing the right thing by their child by getting them help and affirming who they really are. And they're. They're not. They're doing the opposite. They're doing the opposite. The best thing that you could do is shut it down and say no. You're allowed to tell your children no. This is also like gentle parenting where parents now are like, yeah, like, whatever they feel like. And, you know, don't. Don't force them to eat dinner and don't force them to eat that. And don't.

[Reporter or Guest 2]

No.

[Haley]

Force your kids to do stuff that they don't want to do. If you let kids run the world, we'd be in a very different place. There would be pizza and ice cream every day. That's not good. You can't, like, let your kid be the adult in the room.

[Co-host or Guest 3]

At least we'd have all day recession, all day recess.

[Haley]

Nobody goes to work. I mean, these are really. They're democratic socialists. They want freebies. They want. They don't want to work. Yeah, they're like kids that grew up and they never really grew up. Just crazy. And also, like, why are there therapists affirming this instead of getting to the root cause of why children are feeling this way? Hey, do you feel this way because you heard about it in school or do you actually feel this way? Right. Are you feeling this way because you heard about it and it's a trend?

[Co-host or Guest 1]

Or.

[Haley]

Or do you really feel like you were born in the wrong body? Children would not come up with this on their own. It's not something that is being naturally brought up. It's being brought up in a school setting. It's being brought up on the playground. They're hearing about it, they're hearing about it in TV shows and now they're convinced. And is it. If the children are not confused enough. The Salamanca City school district in western New York wants to deploy a fleet of robot teachers. What's worse? What's worse? Let me just throw this out, actually. Let's play this first and then I'll ask you which one is worse.

[Reporter or Guest 2]

Rural upstate New York school district. They're bringing humanoid robot teachers into the classroom. Check out Sally here. That's her name. These students are gonna be.

[Haley]

See, Sally would get some nightmares if

[Reporter or Guest 2]

I was in first grade. They're gonna have access to these bots. It has silicone lung or it has silicone skin, long brown hair, facial expressions. You can see some upper body movements. I think she's teaching the kids to counter their hair.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

I don't know.

[Zoran Mamdani]

In that you teach.

[Reporter or Guest 2]

School officials say the robots aren't meant to replace teachers. Instead, they serve as classroom assistants. It's part of a pilot program. And the company behind the robots say they hope to deploy a fleet of robot tutors.

[Haley]

If you implement this in lower grades, they're going to be terrified. And if you implement this in higher grades, like middle school and high school, the boys are going to grab her robo boobs.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

You got me on that. I had a really witty comment and that. That just threw me off here.

[Haley]

Tell me, tell me I'm wrong. Tell me I'm wrong. It's gonna scare the children. And then everyone, all the older kids are gonna like, try to pull a tear and. And defame her and defile her. That's what I meant. Defile her. That's 100% what's gonna happen.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

Yeah,

[Haley]

I know. Tell me I'm wrong. You can't.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

Yeah, just. Robot bullying is all it's going to be.

[Haley]

They're going to bully the robot. They're going to push her over, they're going to like rip her hair out. They're going to undress her. Like just watch, just watch. Clanker. Freaking clankers in the classroom. It's crazy. And the robot, Guess how much it costs. I'll let you all in the chat. Guess how much this robot tutor Sally costs. It's people's salary. It's an average salary. I mean it's wild that these schools are going to be paying this.

[Co-host or Guest 3]

I guess honestly, like not to defend it at all, but it is a one time price as opposed to an annual salary.

[Haley]

Well, what if she breaks? What if the students rip her shirt off? Then, then what?

[Co-host or Guest 3]

Is there a warranty or like a service package?

[Haley]

People are guessing. 1000-002000-00100,0002-400002-75000. 50,000. 50,000 is the closest guess producer Andrew's Facebook market finds. Exactly. Not exactly a Facebook marketplace find. One day Sally from this school in western New York will be on 100%.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

I've got one, I've got a 2026 robot teacher for sale. Decrepit has been spray painted. She doesn't completely defile.

[Haley]

Yeah, she needs maintenance.

[Co-host or Guest 3]

Fixable.

[Haley]

Yeah, fixable. And then it'll go for 20,000. Then one day, one day in 20 years it'll go for like, I don't know, will it go for more money or less money?

[Co-host or Guest 3]

Vintage Sally helper teacher.

[Haley]

It's $57,590. That's what this AI powered humanoid robot costs. $57,000. Schools don't need this.

[Co-host or Guest 3]

I'll say. Which I'm actually on my last point. I think that's more than the average teacher.

[Haley]

I was just gonna say you could hire two te price of one robo teacher from one robo tutor. And why do you need her in the form of a humanoid? If you could just, you could implement AI for a lot cheaper and have students ask it questions.

[Co-host or Guest 3]

Yeah, like robo dog. That's like kind of cute. Just do that.

[Haley]

It's crazy. People in the chat are saying disgusting things. By the way, I see you being disgusting, talking about this robot. I see you. It's disgusting.

[Co-host or Guest 3]

Don't, don't give the Sally to middle schoolers and don't give it to the chat.

[Haley]

Don't. Honestly, I feel bad for Sally now. I'm a little scared for Sally's well being. Yeah, Protect Sally at all costs. I can't believe I flip flopped so quickly. Anyway, this was approved by the school board and then obviously this started coming out and parents were like, this is crazy. Why are we paying this Much for a robot tutor when you know we're already, you know, we have teachers in the classroom. Like, what is the point of this? And now this is being on hold until further notice. So Sally unemployed. Way to go, everyone. The robots are losing their jobs.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

They don't have to make it look so scary. You can choose any form.

[Haley]

She is horrifying. Can you play it again? Look at her. She's like using her hands like this. And if you're a state New York

[Reporter or Guest 2]

school district, if you're listening and not watching robot teachers into the classroom, check out Sally here. That's her name. These students are going to be see Sally with nightmares. If I was in first grade, they're going to have access to these bots. It has silicone or it has silicone skin, long brown hair, facial expressions. You can see some upper body movements. I think she's teaching the kids to count on her fingers.

[Haley]

I don't know.

[Zoran Mamdani]

And what class does she teach?

[Haley]

Oh, this is also another important part of this. She doesn't, she can't move. Like she can only move from her torso up. So she has to stay seated, which is actually less scary. Like at least she's not roaming around. She doesn't have that much autonomy. But people in the chat again, like, you guys are really sick. You're really sick.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

You know, this just proves a point. If grownups cannot handle.

[Haley]

Exactly. The kids are not going to be school boys. No, I, I just can't just give

[Co-host or Guest 1]

Sally a face tattoo. That's pretty cool.

[Haley]

Yeah, Sally ever. Someone's gonna get a sharpie and then draw on Sally and kick me sign on her back. Oh my gosh. It's just ridiculous. I mean, the whole thing.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

I prefer my robot teachers to be like the talking tree at a rainforest cafe.

[Haley]

I was just gonna say, why is she a woman and why is she. I mean, she's totally dead behind the eyes and scary looking. But like she, she, you know, her eyes are kind of like drooping. I mean the whole thing is very scary. But like, why does she have to be a, a woman like that? Why does she have to be a pseudo attractive woman?

[Co-host or Guest 3]

Just make it the Terminator with Arnie's voice.

[Haley]

That's what I'm saying. Like just make it a robot. Why does it have to be a human? And why is that? How is this beneficial for children and their development to have like a, an uncanny valley robot type experience in the classroom? Just scaring the hell out of them?

[Co-host or Guest 3]

Probably in the same way preschoolers were learning how to talk from people with masks on.

[Haley]

Right. It's very scary. Yeah.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

See, I say stick this in the corner and if you have a question, you go talk to the tree.

[Haley]

Kids are, kids are terrified of the Rainforest Cafe, aren't they? I don't, I don't.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

Only when it storms. Not the, not the tree. The tree's cool. It's. Predicts the future or whatever. I don't know.

[Haley]

She kind of reminds me. She, she, they.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

It's Tracy.

[Haley]

She reminds me of the tree in the. Wasn't there a talking tree in Pocahontas? Like the grandma?

[Co-host or Guest 1]

I would assume they, they probably drew a little bit from that.

[Haley]

She kind of reminds me of that. I don't know. It's, it's all very scary. And, and none of this is necessary. Let me just say that Sally prepares kids for Waymo cars. Someone said in the chat this is

[Kathy Hochul]

the way of life.

[Haley]

Now there's going to be robots everywhere. What a life. I was born in the right generation, let me just tell you that. Let's talk about Starbucks, shall we? And what they're implementing and they're, they're also trying to kill us. So Starbucks is using a new food grade silica and it is in their new beverage blending powders. And you might be wondering why is there powder in my coffee to begin with? That's a great question. Why is there powder in any. You know, it's not like, I guess they tried to implement some protein cold foams and things like that and that got bad reviews.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

I'm so over the protein.

[Haley]

The protein. Doritos.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

Pretending there's protein in Doritos and they're just a little bit worse than regular Doritos. I'm so over it.

[Haley]

This is the thing, you know, RFK Jr says get more protein in. And then these, these companies that are selling us poison are just putting like protein chips, protein, whatever. And what RFK Jr. Is really saying is eat real meat.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

Like I got got the other night. I got protein tortilla wraps to make burritos. I was like this. I'm so, I'm so good protein. It's so much worse.

[Haley]

It's so much worse.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

Eat a normal tortilla.

[Haley]

It's so much worse. And we're gonna get into this because Starbucks, you know, they, they had the protein cold foam, which again, it just floats, falls in line with this thing like RFK Jr says to protein Max. And everyone takes that to the nth degree, except it's not real protein, it's fake protein. So Starbucks implemented this protein Stuff slop that goes on top of your, your coffee. And people were saying that the consistency was really weird, like people were complaining about it. So Starbucks is now using this new silica in this anti caking agent to help the ingredients mix better in your coffee. It would prevent drink separation because, you know, well, you guys know I didn't bring my coffee with me today. When I make coffee at home, it looks like a science experiment.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

No, it looks like the yin and yang symbol.

[Haley]

Turn side, tell the class what my, what my coffee looks like by the end of the show.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

You ever poured oil and water, you

[Co-host or Guest 3]

ever left a latte in your hot car for four days?

[Haley]

It's so disgusting. But I put, because I try to cut out dairy. I'm, and I'm doing this for the next 60, 59 days. I'm doing 75 soft, if you will, for 60 days. And I'm cutting out dairy, gluten, sugar and alcohol. And so I'm using almond milk in my coffee, not milk milk. And it is, it's a healthy almond milk. It's just almonds, water and Himalayan sea salt. Those are the only three ingredients. But I mix that in my coffee and it does separate. But if I chose, if I chose a different coffee creamer that had xanthan gum and maltodextrin in it, it would mix. And that's what Starbucks is essentially doing. They're putting this slop concoction in your coffee so that when you get the coffee it looks aesthetically pleasing. You'll normally see xanthan gum, maltodextrin, these things on an ingredient list of a lot of different foods. Like I said, coffee creamers, salad dressings, products that you don't want to separate and want to keep creamy. And you'll see them in tons of food products. Xanthan gum is made from fermented sugar. It becomes this like thick emulsifier that's added to foods and it's added to a lot of gluten free bread and other gluten free products to replace what gluten would do. And so people who choose to eat gluten free foods are, you know, that maybe they're intolerant for whatever reason, maybe, maybe they have celiac disease. They're actually consuming something much worse. To your point about your protein Doritos, Doritos are bad enough, and now your protein Doritos are probably even worse because xanthan gum does not break down in the human body. Xanthan gum, by the way, is found in body lotions. It's found in Halloween makeup, like fake blood, which some of it is edible, like, you're not going to die if it gets in your mouth kind of a thing. But you. We should not be eating this in our food products. And maltodextrin is similar, is that it's used in a thickener. It's derived from potatoes and rice and other starches. And then it becomes a short sugar chain, and it does contain gluten. So people. If people react poorly to gluten, these things can upset their stomachs. And if you consume enough of it, it can disrupt your gut's microbiome because, again, it does not break down in your body. But food companies don't care. Technically, these products are just sugar derived from plants or other food products. You know, in the wrong. In the long run, it's not horrible, like, they're not going to get sued for feeding it to you, but it makes the product last longer, and therefore, they can make more money. So Starbucks is using a blend of gum arabic, maltodextrin, xanthan gum, and natural flavor silica and stevia extract in its drinks to make them blend more seamlessly. And it's raising some workplace concerns because apparently, scooping this powder, it becomes airborne, and baristas are breathing it in, and some are reporting temporary throat irritation and coughing. Listen to this. Okay, guys, so this is me and Lori. We're gonna be testing out the blending powder because, as you guys know, it's toxic,

[Jim Rome]

Bro.

[Haley]

You're gonna get cancer. It looks like they're just putting the powder itself in a blender, and it looks like it turns into a dough. This is what they're feeding you. Oh, that's so nasty. This is what y' all are eating whenever y' all get.

[Starbucks Employee or Industry Expert]

A lot of Starbucks employees have been complaining about this quote, blending powder, and it's going in more and more of their drinks. And let's just take a look at what it is. So here are the ingredients right here. And the purpose is, it acts as an emulsifier and stabilizer. The gums and other components help create a smoother, more consistent frozen blended texture and. And slow separation that would otherwise happen sooner after the drink leaves the blender. So basically, they're using this so that the drink stays exactly how it was when it was made. But there are real health concerns that go along with this. And one thing I'll say is that I've seen a lot of videos of baristas at Starbucks coughing. They say that this is hurting their throats. This powder, as it gets airborne, they're breathing it in, they're getting headaches. So there is a real concern with this and it actually is confirmed right here. One of the main things in this is silica. That's silicon dioxide and it's used as an anti caking agent. It prevents the clumping, but it's being used in this blending powder. Inhalation is a real issue. The fine silicone dust can become airborne as a powder when it's scooped. And repeated inhalation of certain forms of silica is linked to serious lung conditions. So this would back up what the braces are experiencing. They breathe this stuff in and on their coughing, they get headaches. It's not good. Here are some of the other controversies with a lot of this ingredients in this blending powder. This is not something we should be eating. This is not something we should be drinking. Our food is a science experiment and this has to stop. This is not healthy.

[Haley]

So Starbucks says this is a, okay, it's 100% safe. They put out a statement saying this quote, the product used in our coffee houses is a blending powder which contains a small amount of food grade silica, an FDA approved ingredient commonly used in food products that helps ingredients mix consistently and supports a consistent beverage experience. It does not contain crystalline silica and it is safe for food. Now there are other kinds of silica, like. Crystalline silica is natural. It's a hard mineral compound made of silicon, oxygen and it's commonly found in quartz, sand and stone. That becomes dangerous because when that is breathed into the lungs, you could have a serious issue. You could have lung disease. You can. It causes like a piercing in the lungs. It can lead to lung cancer, kidney failure and other breathing problems. It's like copd. Now, if you are using something like that, you have to wear, if you're cutting stone or whatever, you have to wear a special mask or a respirator and you have to stay safe from that dust. Starbucks says this is not the same silica. Like, don't worry, you know, you can breathe it. Don't worry. Just drink this stuff. But again, just because it's not that same silica doesn't mean that it's not causing breathing problems. People are breathing this in and they're reporting the same kinds of issues. So do we believe them?

[Co-host or Guest 1]

I believe them. They have nothing to gain. These teenagers. That looks like a science experiment.

[Haley]

It's disgusting. You mentioned this. What is, what was Oobleck? Oobleck was the stuff that we used to make in middle school and high school.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

Cornstarch, water. It's just two ingredients.

[Co-host or Guest 3]

Yeah, I think it's cornstarch and water.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

It's like the only thing.

[Co-host or Guest 3]

It's a non Newtonian fluid.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

How do you know that?

[Haley]

He remembers. He's the closest to middle school. He's the youngest one here. He remembers it from middle school.

[Co-host or Guest 3]

It doesn't behave according to Newtonian physics.

[Haley]

Right. So that's essentially what they're feeding us. If you are drinking Starbucks, which I. I had Starbucks twice last week, only because it was in the airport and I needed a coffee before my flight.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

All right?

[Haley]

And then I needed. I got up at 5am or something. No, 4:50am to get to my flight. I needed coffee to drive home.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

Coffee shirt. What's your white girl Starbucks order?

[Haley]

My white girl Starbucks order is the brown shaken sugar espresso.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

There it is.

[Haley]

Because it's just good. But I never really allow myself to drink that because it's for calorie purposes. And I'm sort of like, obsessed with my calorie count and cutting things out. So I don't really do that. If I do get Starbucks, I get espresso over ice with a little milk. And that's really it. Like, I don't do the sugars and the pumps of flavor or anything like that. I don't do that. I just get coffee for the most part.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

Yeah.

[Co-host or Guest 3]

And sugar and shaken and whatever.

[Haley]

No, but. No, that's if I'm treating myself. But I. I don't get that all the time. I. If I do, I don't even go to Starbucks all the time. But if I did, it's not really one of those specialty drinks that would have this crap in it normally. Unless they're putting this in everything now. But if I'm ordering just espresso with some milk that shouldn't have some emulsifying.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

Should have a little goo in there.

[Haley]

Goo.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

Just put a little goo in your coffee.

[Haley]

Some Starbucks. Oobleck. In my coffee, they got a coffee

[Co-host or Guest 3]

black or grande or whatever the size is.

[Haley]

Hold the Oobleck, please.

[Co-host or Guest 3]

Two pumps of goop.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

You're gonna think you're putting too much goop in my coffee.

[Haley]

Black, please. No goop in my coffee.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

Pumps a goop and blend it up real good.

[Co-host or Guest 3]

No ice.

[Haley]

I'm sure, because all the baristas are kind of doing this silent protest where they're not putting this in. I'm sure if you asked, hey, please don't put that emulsifier crap in there. They're not gonna do it.

[Co-host or Guest 3]

They'll.

[Haley]

They'll honor your wishes, I think.

[Co-host or Guest 3]

I don't know. I think if you're pulling up to a coffee shop regularly and ordering any kind of blended coffee, this is probably the least of your concerns, honestly.

[Kathy Hochul]

Right.

[Haley]

I agree with that. I agree with that. I will say one. So one time in the fall, I will get a pumpkin spice. One time I will get a peppermint mocha. Around Christmas time, I treat myself to one holiday drink per season. And I just, I have to. It's sort of like a rite of passage. It becomes a little cold out. Not that it really gets cold out here, but when it's October, I need at least one pumpkin spice product. And when it's around Christmas, I need a. I need a peppermint mocha product. I have to. I just, I can't help myself. So anyway, I, I hope that.

[Co-host or Guest 3]

So crazy. Like these mixed coffee drinks. People don't even realize, like this went viral, obviously, because it's like disgusting, gross. But you don't have a right to speak if you order any blended coffee regularly.

[Haley]

I agree with you. The problem is the reason why Starbucks is doing that is because they obviously don't want to hand over something like I make to a.

[Co-host or Guest 3]

That's exactly it.

[Haley]

To a paying customer. They want it to look pretty because nobody reaches in the grocery store for the. Unless you're Maha. You know, nobody's reaching for the organic peaches or the bananas that have bruises on it or natural discoloration. People want to buy the banana that's bright yellow with no blemishes on it. And food companies know that we've been conditioned to buy the pretty products on the shelves. And these companies prey on that. And the cost of having fast, easy access to good looking and long fasting, long lasting foods rather than healthy organic foods is offloaded onto the customer. And we're paying with our health. So that's really the, the, the thing there. I hope that this made everyone very excited for their morning coffee. This should inspire you to make your own at home. Blackout coffee Use code Haley. Blackout coffee. Drinking black and drink it black. Unless you put some raw milk in it quickly because this is just the last thing we have time for. You guys have heard of Brian Johnson, right? This, what would you call him? A biohacker? An age maxer?

[Co-host or Guest 1]

An evil scientist maybe?

[Haley]

He's really scary. I mean, he's spent a ton of money over the years. He's on this mission to reverse the aging process and essentially live forever. And he's spent $2 million each year. He's got a team of 30 doctors who are helping him essentially cheat death for as long as possible. He swears by red light therapies going to bed at 8:30pm every night. He wakes up around 5am so he's getting about seven and a half hours of sleep. I got seven and a half hours of sleep last night. I felt great. Just saying maybe there's something. Maybe. Yeah, everything's great.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

Oh, okay.

[Haley]

I just got good night's sleep last night. It was, it was awesome. He's also a vegan, which I don't agree with, but, you know, he's made these health changes and this is what he looks like year after year after year. This was him in 2018. He looks normal. He looks like a skinnier version of ed Sheeran in 2018. I would say he looks healthy. 2023 and 2024, he's just getting scarier. I will say in 2023, I think that's the worst he's looked. He looks better in 2024.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

He overcompensated in 2024. Put a little bit of weight back on.

[Haley]

Maybe he put a little weight back on his hair. Listen, he's eating a vegan diet. I think that's what's making his hair thin. He's. He's obviously missing some kind of.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

Is that a thing?

[Haley]

Yeah. If you are vegan, you lose a lot of nutri nutrients that you need unless you're putting them back into your body's using supplements. But there's a reason why people eat animal products. They are good for you.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

Indeed. Yeah.

[Haley]

Like I, I understand when people don't want to like kill baby cows and stuff like that. I get it. But you know, there, we're meant to eat. We're carnivores. We're meant to eat food and meat products. That's what we're meant to eat. And of course, you know what? It's an omnivore. We're omnivores. We're supposed to eat a little bit of everything. Not, you know, Starbucks slop, but Starbucks goop slop, but you know what I mean? So I don't know what really. I don't think he's looking better. I certainly don't think he's looking younger. Can you pull that back up? He looks the youngest in 2018, before he started this thing. He looks older, he doesn't look young.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

I'm such a pessimist. And like the idea of playing God, he could die just like any of the rest of us, it's, it's so weird to try to cheat mortality, right?

[Haley]

It's very bizarre. And so anyway, he posted this on X saying that he just cloned himself as a newborn. And he said with this clone I can become my own blood boy. Test therapies on the clone, grow organs for transplantation, develop new treatments, inject young cells. This baby Brian, lives in a petri dish. For now. For now. Where is it going to live later? This may be scary to some people, but a dystopian future. But for others, they will see it as an inevitable future of health. Great, we're all going to have a petri dish clone. Clinical trials are already using this technology to restore dopamine neurons for Parkinson's, heart health and eyesight. The process is you draw blood. His cells were extracted, Yamanaka factors applied. It resets the epigenetic age of the cells, restoring them to an embryonic like state.

State.

Why is he doing this? The cells are now pluripotent. It can be differentiated to hundreds of different cell types, neurons, cardiomytes, retinal cells, etc, allowing me to rebuild my body organ by organ. Repairing lost eyesight or hearing, Restoring kidney, liver or lung function, repairing skin damage. There's real, no limitation in imagining my body will accept them because they're my cells. Foreign cells are at risk of being rejected. As cells age, they accumulate epigenetic errors, compounding into dysfunction and disease. This technology gives us a path to reverse aging. I mentioned my getting diagnosed with an incurable disease is one of the best thing that's ever happened to me in a long time. It's opened up a frontier of new paths to repair and strengthen the body. This is the first example. So this isn't technically a clone in the sense that he's made a new human being, but he's replicating his cells and restoring them to an embryonic like state. So he's, he had, he's made younger versions of his cells and he's going to use those to repair his body when they, when it inevitably fails.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

And then the robots are going to realize that they can do it and then they're going to harvest our bodies for electricity like in the Matrix. And then we're going to be living in a false reality and then put

[Co-host or Guest 3]

it in kindergarten school rooms and then we all die.950 or whatever.

[Haley]

And then we all die. Sally 2.0 I don't like the language that he's used in that post about creating a blood boy and creating this being that's only existing for his own good. It's like he's feeding off of this other organism for his own benefit without. Without the care of the blood boy. He's calling it a blood boy. It's like cells in a petri dish. But he said for now. You know, like, I feel like he's saying that because he has other plans to make something else.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

He's an evil who says scary.

[Haley]

I know.

[Co-host or Guest 1]

And thunder claps behind him.

[Haley]

I know. And aging is not something to fear. Dying is not something to fear. It's a natural part of life. Life begins and life ends. And I can.

[Co-host or Guest 3]

We've done this a couple times. Sorry to interrupt the. This is. This is story is another peak secularism.

[Haley]

Like this is the pen 100%. I was just going to say that I can understand wanting to be healthy as. And extend your life as as much as you can to be with family and to enjoy the life that we've been given. But to go to these lengths to biohack and extend life beyond its natural end is playing God. And you have to wonder why someone would want to live forever. Is that really a good thing? And to Justin's point, it's about a lack of faith because faith has a huge impact on how people feel about life and death. And I think most Christians look forward to death because it means we're going home to our creator and people who are agnostic or atheist or maybe they believe in something else. Maybe they don't look forward to death and maybe that's why they want to maximize their time on earth. But it's demonic. If you ask me. It's weird as hell and it's demonic.

[Co-host or Guest 3]

This is the slippery slope of abortion. If you don't consider a child in the womb as a child, then of course you can run tests on it like it makes sense.

[Jim Rome]

Of course.

[Co-host or Guest 3]

Of course. Premise.

[Haley]

It's eugenics.

[Co-host or Guest 3]

Then he's doing nothing wrong, right?

[Haley]

Of course. Because they are saying this is literally the leftist abortion debate. It's a clump of cells. So therefore you can do whatever you want to it.

[Co-host or Guest 3]

If you don't believe in a moral arbiter, you have no reason to disagree with what he's doing.

[Haley]

Exactly. Exactly. It boils down to people who are believers and people who have faith and people who respect God and God's creation. And then you have the rest of society that I guess thinks that this is cool. I don't. Thank you for scrolling along with me today. I appreciate every single one of you that tunes in and I hope that you share this show with a friend. If you liked it, like, subscribe, do all the things. Follow me on social media at Haley Karenia and I'll see you right back here tomorrow.

[Reporter or Guest 2]

Bye.

[Haley]

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