
In this episode of Scrolling: The 2028 odds are in Sec. Marco Rubio’s favor according to Kalshi, The Clinton’s marriage is rockier than ever & Gen Z women are attracted to femboys?!
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Haley Karenia
Hello and welcome to Scrolling with Haley. I am Haley Karenia. Thank you so much for being here. Hello to everyone in the chat. People are saying that I love Marco Rubio. I do. And we're gonna get into it in the show today. You might be watching on Rumble rumble dot com. Haley, that brings you to the Bongino Report channel. This is where you can watch live in full. We are also streaming on X, on Facebook and on Spotify, although you will not be able to watch the full show on X Ray or on Facebook and on Spotify and the other Apple podcast platforms. That goes up later. So live is the place to be for Rumble. Rumble is the place to be for live, I should say. Anyway, President Trump, unfortunately, cannot be our president forever. Although that would be really cool. So who would carry the torch? Kelshi is projecting Marco Rubio as the favorite. I couldn't agree more. But this morning, JD Vance eked back into the top spot and then they were tied. It's constantly changing, but we're going to get into it. Also, the Internet is a blaze after Gen Z, women claim to prefer scrawny, feminine men to handsome, manly men. Speak for yourselves. Also, chivalry is dead in the Clinton household after Bill seemingly attempts to push Hillary to her death in an intersection. She made it. All right, put your phones on. Do not disturb. The show starts now. Well, Kelsey, markets are predicting that we may be seeing a Marco Rubio Gavin Newsom matchup in 2028. See them go toe to toe with Marco Rubio beating out J.D. vance as the favorite only recently. Vice President Vance had been in the lead in the lead on Kelsey until yesterday. And he had been in the lead since May. And then Marco Rubio took the top spot yesterday, just for a little bit. And then they were tied the last time I checked this morning. So could you go? Okay, so JD Vance is back in the lead just by one point. So, Gavin Newsom, 19% chance. JD Vance, 19% chance. Marco Rubio back down at 18 but, yeah, it's interesting that JD Vance and Marco Rubio, these are at least the top contenders for the Republican side as of right now. We have a long time to go until 2028. But Gavin Newsom is the only Democrat, and all the other Democrat candidates are far below the rest. Like, if you scroll down there, it's AOC, and I think she was at 6%. But Marco Rubio is. Is clearly a new favorite for the Republican Party. Not that he's new. He was actually one of my favorites in 2016. But you could see Josh Shapiro, 5%, AOC, 5%. They're in the single digits. Donald Trump, who can't even run.
Andrew
If you're below Donald Trump's third term, you're screwed. Drop out, man.
Haley Karenia
Yeah, you're screwed, man. John Ossoff, J.B. pritzker, Kamala Harris, Pete Buddha, Judge. Polling close to the negatives here. It's really tough. And yes, if Donald Trump for the third term is polling above you, you've got some issues. Donald Trump Jr. 2%. Gretchen Whitmer, 2%. Mark Kelly, 2%. Stephen A. Smith, 2%. That. That was up from yesterday. I think he was 1% yesterday. Yeah. All the rest of these guys, they. They've got no chance. They've got no chance. Nikki Haley, no chance. Tulsi Gabbard. I would put Tulsi Gabbard above Nikki Haley and some of J.B. pritzker for sure. But she would have to overcome the fact that she was a Democrat. And I don't think as. As much as she is, come over to the bright side and the right side. I don't know if people would trust her enough. But then again, people did it with RFK Jr. So I don't know. It's interesting. But Marco Rubio, you know, he is the acting National Security adviser, the acting archivist of the United States, acting USAID Administrator. President Trump had tasked him with overseeing the transition of Venezuela amid Maduro's capture and arrest. He is also the Miami Dolphins head coach. He is Punch the Monkeys handler. He is a Mexican drug cartel kingpin. He is Iran's new ayatollah. I. I've seen him as the human Ayatollah, also the cardboard cutout of the ayatollah. He can do it all. All right. Marco Rubio sitting on that couch. He can do it all. He wears a lot of hats. And I know that we joke about this, but this is my favorite meme. And, and Marco Rubio now learning that he's the odds to favorite the 2028 presidency. And there he is sitting in the Oval Office on the couch. But he's got Trump's hair and. And a red tie. Iconic President Trump outfit there with the blue. Blue suit. And he looks good with that hair. I prefer his natural hair, but he could pull off the Donald Trump swoop, I think. And then people were joking that JD Vance finding out that Marco Rubio is the leading in the 2028, although this was just temporary. But this is JD Vance sitting in Marco Rubio seat in the meme. Although JD Vance is actually sitting right next to Marco Rubio in real life. So this is JD Vance sitting next to JD Vance. AI JD Vance sitting next to real JD Vance. Anyway, as much as we like to joke about Marco Rubio being able to do it, all the jokes are rooted in reality. He really can do it all. This was him earlier this week, stunning the crowd, speaking to Latin leaders. Here, watch this cover in Spanish.
Andrew
You all right?
JD Vance
Oh, good. We don't need an interpreter for this one.
Waymo Support Agent
I think I'm a good interpreter. You'll find out in a second.
JD Vance
But.
Haley Karenia
Someone in the chat said he's ordering tacos. I don't speak Spanish, so I have no idea what he's saying. He could be saying anything.
Justin
Trump looks like such a proud dad.
Haley Karenia
That's the thing someone else said the chat, it's all Greek to me. Same. I have no idea what he's talking about. But it is funny because President Trump is smiling at Marco Rubio. Just proud of him. Proud dad moment. And that's how I feel, too. But Marco Rubio, he is reliable. He is strong, articulate. I think he would be a great option to carry on the MAGA movement, the America first movement, when Trump inevitably retires from this political life. And not that Vice President Vance couldn't do it. I think he is wonderful as well, and I really do like him. But I think this shows that the public is starting to favor Lil Marco, at least right now, and kind of giving Vice President Vance a run for his money. President Trump has been on the record a few times saying that Rubo Rubio and Vance teening up would be an unstoppable ticket. And I agree. And people are trying to get Trump, I think, to get. Get him on the record and choose and say who his favorite is, which I feel like is asking a parent who your favorite child is. He's obviously not going to say anything. Plus, President Trump is known for waiting until the very last second to make endorsements that he knows are going to be successful. So he's obviously not going to be weighing in on this anytime soon or making an official endorsement until much later on in 2028. I mean, no one's even thrown their hat in the ring yet. But whoever leads the Republican Party will be way better than anyone the left has. And to my point earlier, when we were looking at that whole list, I mean, Gavin Newsom is at the top of the list, and then no one. There's no one else. There's simply no one else. Anyone else is below Donald Trump, Donald Trump Jr. All of these, like, we have such a deep bench. I feel like on the Republican side and the Democrats, they just have nobody. And Gavin Newsom is the top pick, and he's a total lunatic. And despite the rampant fraud going on in his state becoming a sanctuary state for transgenders and illegals, I do think that liberals would come out in droves to vote for him, because, I don't know, people, like. People bring up the Nixon Kennedy debate where being handsome definitely helps. And I think in today's day and age, especially with women, they would maybe go for who's hotter. I really do think maybe not. Maybe they wouldn't admit it, but subconsciously, I think that people prefer more attractive people. And, you know, as ridiculous as that is, that is, liberals don't vote for policy. You know, they just vote on vibes and. And all that stuff. So I'm just trying to get into the head of a liberal, which, again, is a very scary place. But I think that they would just go out and vote for him. I really do. Especially because they love illegals, they love transgenders, they love the LGBTQ community. They love all these things that Gavin Newsom is a champion of. So why wouldn't they vote for him? And he's handsome. It's like, yeah, cherry on top. They love all that stuff. And I do think that it would be a close race because of that, because of the fact that Democrats will literally vote blue, no matter who they will vote for, whoever has a D next to their name. And nobody on that list is even close to Gavin Newsom, which is scary. You know, AOC is the next hypothetical candidate. She was trailing J.D. vance by double digits. Then you had Josh Shapiro, Kamala Harris, Jon Ossoff, Pete Buddha Judge, also in the single digits. Ron DeSantis, also in the single digits. He kind of had a fall from grace, but I still like him very much. I think he's a great governor. I just think on the. I don't know, like, on the Debate stage, he just kind of fell flat. And that doesn't mean that he doesn't have a future. I think he does. I think he'd probably make a really good vice presidential candidate or another cabinet position. So I don't think we'll be seeing the last of Ron DeSantis. I just think he's not presidential material, at least right now. But then again, people didn't think that Marco Rubio was presidential material, and now people are really taking a second look at him, and I don't know why that was. I think President Trump on that debate stage in 2016, he kind of sucked all the air out of the room. He got all the attention. He was such a huge personality that anyone next to him just kind of fell flat. And I think maybe that's why people overlooked all the other candidates. They just didn't hold a candle to President Trump. But I am absolutely thrilled with the talent on our side. I think we have a deep bench of strong candidates, potential cabinet members. I feel really good about our prospects. And you know what they say, when you look good, you feel good. And President Trump just wants to make sure that, at the very least, everyone at his Cabinet looks good. So here is Vice President Vance a while back, telling this story about how President Trump gifted shoes to the members of his Cabinet. Watch.
JD Vance
I want to talk about Sly and all of his great accomplishments and why we're gathered here to celebrate him. But I want to first say, you know, people often ask me what it's like to be the Vice President of the United States. And a lot of it is exactly what you would expect it to look like if you watched on TV or just paid attention to the media. But sometimes you get these behind the scenes moments that I will never, ever forget for the rest of my life. So, for example, today I'm in the Oval Office with the President of the United States and our great Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, and we're talking about something really, really important. And the President kind of holds up his hand and says, no, no, no, hold on a second. There's something much more important. Shoes. He peers over the Resolute desk and he says, Marco, J.D. you guys have shitty shoes. We gotta get you better shoes. So he goes out and grabs a catalog. There happens to be another politician in the room. I won't say who. You'll find out why in a second. And he actually runs us through this incredible shoe catalog. And by the way, honey, the President is gifting us with four pairs of shoes. And I think four Pairs for Marco. And he's actually asking our size in the middle of this conversation. He's asking for our size so that he can make sure that we get the right shoes. And he asked this other policy. He said, I'm gonna get you some shoes, too. And so he says, marco, what's your shoe size? And Marco's apparently an eleven and a half. He says, you know, J.D. what's your shoe size? My shoe size is 13. And he asked this politician, more embarrassed, what his shoe size is, and he says, seven.
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JD Vance
He kind of leans back in his chair and says, you know, you can tell a lot about a man by shoe size.
Haley Karenia
Oh, that's our president. That's our president just cracking jokes. And I love all the stories that people tell about President Trump. He's a huge personality, and I think that's a lot of the reason why people gravitate towards him. It's not just the amazing policies that we all know and love, but it is just who he is as a person. I think some people are really turned off by him, but I think most people who don't get offended by, you know, dumb jokes and stuff really do like him. And this has prompted Shoegate, which I'm calling Shoegate now, because now after this video. And this was, like, around Christmas time, but now people are kind of resurfacing this clip because people in Trump's cabinet are walking around and it looks like their shoes are a little too big for them. So, Secretary Rubio, this is a Clash Report post on X. Marco Rubio wearing oversized shoes that Trump ordered for him. By just guessing his size, Trump has been buying 145 Florshum dress shoes. I don't even know if I'm pronouncing that right. Is that like a brand that I'm unaware of? Is that how you say it? I don't know. The guys in here are going to tell me I don't know anything about men's shoes. Dress shoes for allies. Using the gifts as a lighthearted way to encourage loyalty and unity within his circle. I don't think that's really as much. I don't think that's really that deep. I think that President Trump just said, hey, your shoes look like shit. I'm going to buy you some new ones. I don't think this is like, hey, I bought you these pairs of shoes, so now you have to be loyal to me. I think these people in Trump's cabinet were probably already loyal to him regardless of the shoes. But anyway, this is another now people are making this meme, of course, my favorite meme platform. And this is Marco Rubio wearing some clown shoes, clown sized shoes, making fun of the fact that there was. There's a little gap in the back of the shoes. Maybe they don't fit perfectly. But then people were pointing out that there, it's not just Marco Rubio, there are other members of President Trump's cabinet that are seen with shoes that look a little too, too big for them. I don't know. So if you can you click on these, so you can't really tell that these shoes don't fit or do or don't. I can't tell. But it looks like everyone in the cabinet's got the same pair of shoes on. So then you click to the next one and there's Secretary Sean Duffy. And you could see I'm covering it if you're watching, but you could just see, like a little gap behind. But again, I don't know. I'm not the shoe police. I'm not the fashion police. I can't tell if these shoes fit or not. I'm sure they do. I can't imagine grown men would wear shoes that don't fit just to please President Trump. I can't imagine these men would say, hey, I'm going to take this shoe that doesn't fit and wear it. Why wouldn't you tell the president, hey, thank you for the shoes? They don't fit. I don't know. So I think the shoes probably do fit. Maybe it's just a bad angle. It looks like the left shoe fits and the right one doesn't. Maybe he was just walking and it. I don't know. His toes hit the front. I don't know. I don't know anything about this. But I, I would imagine you could tie them tighter or, or at least speak up if they don't fit.
Justin
That's a double sock situation. You don't say a word.
Haley Karenia
Yeah. Oh, you. You don't think that you say to Mr. President, hey, thank you for the shoes, but I need another size. You just keep them regardless.
Justin
Absolutely not. And you wear those things every single day.
Haley Karenia
So Andrew had passed the loyal Trump loyalty test for sure. That's funny. But anyway, Gavin Newsom's press office, of course, had to get in on this and start making fun of people for not wearing the right pairs of shoes and whatever. So this is what they said they were quipping on on X. So Governor Newsom's press office said, maybe Trump just assumes everyone else has swollen Ankles. Making fun of the fact that President Trump has been seen with swollen ankles. And I just want to point out that Gavin Newsom's press office, they, all of their jokes are based on what President Trump says. They, they write their tweets in the style of President Trump. They're obsessed with President Trump. Meanwhile, Gavin Newsom is trying to sell Donald Trump signed knee pads. And that's his way of getting money or grifting or, I don't know, lining his own pockets because he's going to run for president probably. And I think that that's way more embarrassing pedaling knee pads than wearing shoes that don't fit, maybe just by this much. So, anyway, taking a quick break. Oh, so these are the shoes. $145. I would assume that this is why he was buying four pairs of them each for everyone. $145. That's, that's a good price. I think it's not overly, you know, overly expensive. I think it's probably good quality. It's a good looking shoe. I like it. All right, taking a quick break to tell you about ExpressVPN. Going online without ExpressVPN is like checking your bag at the airport without a lock. Who knows how many creeps you're going through your private stuff. ExpressVPN fixes that. It's like putting tinto tinted windows on your Internet connection. You can see out, but nobody can see in. And here is why you need a vpn. Your Internet provider can see every website you visit. And in the US they can legally sell that data. ExpressVPN reroutes everything through encrypted servers so your ISP can't spy on you. Right now, plans start at just 349amonth. That's $3.49 a month. That is only 12 cents a day is easy to use. You could just fire up the app, click one button and. And get protected. It works on all devices. I use ExpressVPN on my phone, especially when I'm in public. Wi fi, airports, cafes, you name it. Because keeping my personal info private matters. And it really is that easy to set up. It takes minutes. You download the app, it's super easy. I downloaded it personally when the TikTok ban was happening. That whole conversation was happening. I thought that I'd be able to still access Tik Tok if I was using a vpn, but it didn't work anyway, neither here nor there. I kept ExpressVPN on my phone because I love it. So secure your data online today. By visiting expressvpn.com/scroll that is X, P R E S vpn.com/scroll to find out how you can get up to four extra months. Expressvpn.com/scroll all right, we were talking about this. I did an episode earlier in the week called why is Everything so Gay? And everything is gay. Everyone is gay. And there's certain reasons for that. I think there's environmental factors that are making people gay or more feminine. And people on the Internet are. Are now saying that Henry Cavill is. Is not attractive, which is absolutely asinine. So this is the tweet that went viral and got everybody talking. This is a woman, she said. Henry Cavill is more of a man's man. He actually isn't that attractive to most women.
Chat Participant
Speak for yourself. Speak for yourself.
Haley Karenia
He's the most handsome man I've ever seen. She goes on. Henry has the classic strong, tall, muscular and reliable kind of vibe, but he lacks edginess, danger, and mystery.
Chat Participant
Speak for yourself.
Andrew
This is. He's Superman, by the way.
Haley Karenia
He's edgy and dangerous and mysterious enough for me.
Andrew
Clark Kent. Hello.
Haley Karenia
I know.
Justin
The bad guy in Mission Impossible. Like that wasn't a little edgy for you.
Haley Karenia
I'm glad that you guys agree with me. He's basically a Reddit, nice guy and a jagged body and a handsome face. Also, he's enthusiastic about stuff like building PCs and his warhammer figure collection. I find it cute, personally, but for most women, it's negative aura. Negative aura and Henry Cavill in the same sentence is should be illegal. It should be illegal. This man is aura. He is aura. Look at him.
Chat Participant
He's perfect.
Haley Karenia
This is my type. This is my type. Henry Cavill. Bryson Dechambeau. Those are men. Those are real handsome men. Okay, I'm getting very excited talking about this. I started the show and I was so tired and now look at me. I'm all fired up. All you have to do is show me a picture of Henry Cavill and I'm fired up. But this woman posted this and said that she prefers Henry Cavill and she is not on birth control, which I'm going to get to in a second. You're probably thinking, what does that have to do. And I with anything. But she says that the woman who posted this is speaking on behalf of other peers, other Gen Z women, who she thinks prefers someone more feminine looking like a Timothy Chalamet over Henry Cavill, which is crazy, but I wouldn't doubt it. So here's Henry Cavill versus Timothy Chalamet. This is what they look like. Obviously. We already saw Henry Cavill. He's so handsome. And this is, this is Timothy Chalamet. What? You can't, you can't piss on me and tell me it's raining and tell me that this is a, this is a sex symbol. You can't. He looks very feminine. And we thank you. Thank you put for putting Henry Cavill back up on the screen. This is a handsome man, of course. And then this is. He's got, he looks like he's got the buccal fat removal on his face too that all the girlies are getting. He's got feminine looking hair. He's got feminine looking eyes, a feminine looking nose. Everyone in the chat agrees he looks nauseous. He's not even sexy. Twink. Exactly. He looks like an alien. Exactly. Thank you. Thank you. Timothy looks like a girl. Thank you.
Andrew
Is the facial hair of someone swimming in testosterone.
Haley Karenia
He just, he doesn't look attractive. He doesn't look manly. And this is, this man, by the way, is cracking. Kylie Jenner. I don't know how he pulled her off. Maybe she's on birth control, which I'm going to get to in a minute. So EV magazine, because this conversation starts blowing up on X and all the girlies are saying, you know, you're crazy if you think that Timothy Chalamet is attractive. You've got to be. You've got. Something's wrong. So EV magazine is a conservative magazine and they said this is actually an article from 2020, but. But they brought it back up because it's relevant to the conversation. And this says, if you're into Timothy Chalamet, Harry Styles and Little Huddy, then you might be on the pill. And in this article they were talking about a Scottish study from 2013 which asked young, young women who were not on birth control to digitally alter a man's facial features to create their ideal man. What is your ideal man? And they liked masculine looking men. Then they asked a third of those participants to go on birth control and they waited three months because it takes three months for your hormonal cycles to kind of get acclimated. So three months later they redid the experiment and they found that those women who were went on birth control, they designed the man of their dreams and, and he had significantly less masculine features, which says that women who are on the pill or are taking hormonal contraceptives who have synthetic hormones, they are more attracted to effeminate men. And a scary statistic is that Most American, when women are on the pill, there's 65% of American women that are on the pill. That is tens of millions of women and teenagers are even put on it. So we have all of these environmental factors that are turning men more feminine. And then the majority of women are attracted to these feminine men because they're potentially on the pill. So you might be thinking, well, then why is the birth rate declining if, you know, men are more feminine and women like that kind of thing? Why is there a male loneliness epidemic? Well, the. The more feminine men become, I think they start to like men. They don't like women anymore. This is why men are going this way. Women are going this way. This is why we're having a birth rate decline, because nobody wants to do each other anymore. Nobody. Nobody's attracted to anyone anymore. This is a huge problem. Everybody's gay now. And do you guys remember I. The guys are subjected to all of my dating stories. I come in, I go on a date, and then I come in here, and I tell them all the. All a tea. And do you remember, like, over the summer when I dated that guy, I went on two dates, and I told you I think he's gay? Yeah. So I went on two dates with a guy, very nice, very handsome, but, like, too handsome. You know, handsome in a way that was too pretty. Boy. And I kind of started thinking, like, it's kind of gay. Like, he's so handsome. He's kind of gay.
Andrew
This is when we realized Haley's gaydar sucks.
Haley Karenia
No, I think my gaydar is pretty good. I just think that everyone's gay now. And I think the studies prove me correct. I think a lot of people are gay. And I keep, you know, bringing up all the Alex Jones study, this study from 2013. I mean, all the men are getting more feminine. I think I'm spot on. So anyway, I go on a date with this guy, and again, nice enough, handsome, but, like, too pretty. And I started kind of picking up on some gay vibes. Like, the way that he talked was kind of gay. The way that he moved, his mannerisms were gay. I don't know. It just was kind of gay. I was just getting weird gay vibes. So obviously it didn't work out, because I can't get over that. And then on the other end of the spectrum, you have this guy, clavicular. And I don't think I've really talked about him on the show yet, but he's a big influencer creator, and he seems to be this new self Proclaimed beauty standard for men. He boasts about having a fit, muscular body, a strong jawline, but I would think that he is more feminine looking. Wouldn't you say that he's kind of feminine looking?
Andrew
Andrew says no, I think it totally has to do with body hair. Like this hairlessness that immediately makes you feel feminine.
Haley Karenia
I agree with that. Maybe it's hairlessness. Why are men doing that?
Andrew
I have no, I've never understood the body shaving.
Haley Karenia
I don't get that either.
Justin
Justin with the shirt off.
Andrew
Crazy.
Chat Participant
What you say? What'd you say?
Haley Karenia
Speak up.
Andrew
We're good.
Chat Participant
What about Justin?
Justin
We went, played pickleball and he's at least like not a hypocrite. He's preaching the truth.
Haley Karenia
All right, good to know. Good to know. But I agree. I think that men need to leave their body hair on. I don't know what this thing is. Thing is about men getting rid of their body hair. I. I'm a woman. I like seeing body hair on a man. On men, it's manly. Anyway, this I think goes to show that a lot of these men that are shaving themselves, maybe they are becoming more feminine. Anyway, this clavicular guy, he just posted this video and he has this crazy beauty routine. I'm going to call it a beauty routine because he's, he's beautiful. Watch.
Clavicular
Live in a luxury condominium in downtown Miami. The Penthouse. My name is clavicular. I'm 20 years old. I believe in looks maxing, the idea of maximizing physical attractiveness by any means necessary in order to ascend in the morning.
Haley Karenia
He's hitting his face.
Clavicular
If my jaw looks a little weak, I'll bone smash to strengthen it with a hammer. My ratios are nearly golden now. Testosterone for muscle growth. Dysoxyn as for appetite suppression. Glutathione for health maxing, Peptides for anti aging and collagen production. Melanotan II for a healthy glow. IGF1, HGH reticertide for leanness, Dutasteride and minoxidil for hair maintenance. When it comes to ascension, if you're not looks, max highlighter, you're not life maxing.
Haley Karenia
He's curling his eyelashes.
Clavicular
And if you're not life maxing, you're nothing.
Haley Karenia
Okay, so if you're not looks maxing, you're nothing. So basically all the men in the chat who are watching, if you're not putting eyeliner on and curling your eyelashes, you're nothing. Clavicular reveals to the New York Times the list of drugs he's currently taking and Explains his reliance on stimulants. He's taking testosterone for trt. He's taking Accutane for his skin Retro True Tide. I'm not going to go through all these things. But he's taking melatonin, L glutathione, NAD for cellular health, which is good for you. So he's kind of like, biohacking a little bit and trying to stay healthy, which I can appreciate. But I. The way that I think about being healthy and Maha is not relying on big Pharma drugs. I don't think. I think the way to do it, the actual healthy way, is to get off as many prescription drugs as you possibly can not go on them. So I think that that's not healthy, but I don't think that he's trying to be healthy in a real healthy way. I think he's trying to just look good. So it's not really like a Maha thing, but it's more of like a it looks thing, which is. That's what he's all about. He's about looks maxing. But I think that. And he's attractive. Like, he's definitely attractive to. And handsome, but I again, I think it's a little too handsome again. And I think if you wear eyeliner as a guy, you're gay. I'm not going near a guy who wears eyeliner. And I think curling your eyelashes. Having a guy own a eyelash curler is crazy to me. That should be illegal. And I think if you need to use a hammer to accentuate your facial features, you're also gay and mentally unstable. So how do you feel about my gaydar now?
Andrew
I mean, history. History doesn't work. But. But we're getting there. We're getting closer.
Haley Karenia
Do you think that he's gay?
Andrew
No, I don't.
Haley Karenia
What do you think is wrong with him?
Justin
Addiction to supplements.
Andrew
Addiction to social media clout.
Haley Karenia
Yeah, yeah.
Justin
Like, I'm all for supplements, but, like, his body's got to be just, like, screaming for help. There's like, nothing, like, natural going on. It's all supplemented.
Haley Karenia
Yeah. And he's taking a hormone suppressant as well. I mean, a appetite suppressant as well. So it's not even really like he has the. The discipline to eat well and work out and all these things. It's. It's like he's relying on big Pharma to do all these things that I think a real man would be able to do. I think this is weird.
Andrew
And this guy's like, the far right Mr. Beast, and he Just has social media down to a science and is constantly trending all.
Haley Karenia
Yeah, yeah. And he's 20 years old. I love how he says in the video my name is clavicular. Well, no, it isn't. Like, what's your actual name? Like, no, you're. No, it's not.
Andrew
Yeah, this guy in the chat has it right. He may not be a homo, but he is super gay.
Justin
Maybe he's a hypochondriac.
Haley Karenia
I. I don't know.
Justin
You're, like, excessively anxious. Like, think you're always sick. Like, that kind of thing. Like, you know.
Haley Karenia
Yeah, I don't know. I want to know his real name. I kind of want to know his story. Should we get him on? You guys can reach out to clavicular for me?
Andrew
We can try.
Haley Karenia
I would. I don't know. I would like to ask some questions anyway.
Andrew
Braden. Eric Peters.
Haley Karenia
Braden. Eric Peters.
Justin
He looks like a Braden.
Haley Karenia
Yeah, he does look like a Braden. More so than clavicular. I wonder where he came up with that.
Andrew
As for the clavicle, because it was.
Haley Karenia
Oh, that's what. That's what that's about means.
Andrew
Yeah.
Haley Karenia
This is gay of clavicle.
Justin
If he comes on the show, maybe don't open with that.
Haley Karenia
Yeah, no, no. If. If he agrees to go on the show, we just cancel this episode. We just deleted. It never existed. It never happened. Anyway, I did have an example of a real man, and I wanted to play this. And this real man is actually in New York City, believe it or not. Watch this. So this is a man. He is in a pond in Central park that is frozen, but he is doing his darndest to save a coyote that fell into the frozen pond. So this man is bobbing up and down. He's treading water. Call. Trying to get this coyote to safety. And he's working. He's working, he's working. The coyotes kind of. Kind of getting out. There he is. He's finally out of the frozen pond, and then the coyote is able to get out to safety. I'm assuming the man got out to safety, too. I'm hoping. He just seems like he's kind of bobbing up and down in there still. But some other guy has a ladder for whatever reason. Did he think the coyote was gonna crawl up the ladder? Climb up the ladder?
Justin
Like, I love how the coyote was just like, well, I'll see you. Yeah.
Haley Karenia
No need to say thank you. Yeah. I'm assuming that the guy got out there was all these people standing around watching. I'm sure if he needed help getting out, some other man might be able to. In a sea of all these beta males in New York City, I'm sure there was one that would go help the, the alpha man. But people in the chat are saying, this is awesome. Brave. Absolutely. Someone said, put your life at risk for a species that are not in danger. Maybe that's stupid, but I think it's a valiant effort, I would say. And then this young man. Do we have this video of this young man? Okay, chivalry. Well, chivalry is dead when it comes to the Clintons household, which we're going to get to in a second here. But this young man seems to be at least attempting to keep chivalry alive. Watch. So here's a little boy. He's got his hand out, he's attempting to help all these little girls get down off of the stage. And none of them are taking him up on it. This makes me sad. All the girls are going down by themselves. They don't need no man. They're hanging onto the opposite wall, doing anything but to take her, take his hand. This is sad. And this is young girls. You would think that they would want, I don't know, maybe they wouldn't know about all this man hating stuff, but I guess they're in on it too, which is sad. Little boy, he was raised right. He was raised right. Maybe it's just the age. Like they don't want to touch him because he has cooties. You know, like, maybe that's why. Maybe I could see myself not touching the boy in class. I don't know. But definitely a little gentleman. And I, I give credit to his parents. But let's get into the Clinton household because chivalry is absolutely dead. But Hillary is not dead yet. But she came close because the Clintons were walking in New York City after attending an event visiting their daughter Chelsea. And Bill just about tried to add old Hillary to the Clinton body count. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. Watch this. So here's Hillary Clinton walking. She goes out into the intersection and then Bill kind of pushes her. This is the, one of the weirdest things I've seen. First of all, there's 20 people hanging around in the middle of an intersection. It's the weirdest thing I've ever seen. And aren't the people around them supposed to be keeping them safe? Bill is like shoving Hillary into the road. I don't understand what I'm looking at here. And there was no need for them to be in the intersection. They, they were in the Intersection. Bill kind of pushes her a little bit and she's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, stop. And then they go back onto the sidewalk. Okay, what are we doing here, people in the chat. She knows too much. Don't make her mad. Bill, he's doing the Biden. Okay, this is my thought when I saw this video, because especially coming off of the House Oversight committee testimony from the Epstein files, this girl, this legal aid next to Bill was really having to coax him through all this stuff, really hand hold him through the questions. They would ask him a question, then she would kind of have to repeat it to him. Maybe that was just a hearing thing, but it seemed more cognitive in a way. I think that Bill is getting up there. I think he is definitely getting older. Not as mobile. But I'm glad someone brought up Joe Biden because this AI reenactment of this thing is really good. And Joe Biden is involved. Watch. So Hillary falls in the street and Joe Biden with his ice cream falls on top of her in the bike. This is what Bill wanted to do. I love how Joe Biden comes out.
Justin
Even AI was like, that intersection is entirely too busy. Cleaned it up for him.
Haley Karenia
I love how Joe Biden in AI, he can ride a bike with one hand, but in real life he. He was like 12 and 3 and he still couldn't stay up, right? So I thought that that was funny. Now in AI Joe Biden can barely ride a bike, but he's got his ice cream in the other hand. People were saying online that Hillary Clinton was dressed as Kim Jong Un. If we could just play this again. Look at her outfit. It looks. She's got this tunic that covers her ass. It's the weirdest. It's like she looks like a North Korean dictator. She couldn't be president of the United States, so she just dresses up as a Korean dictator. What is. This outfit is crazy. She loves a pantsuit. It almost looks like sweatpant material. I know it isn't, but it's just, you know. Anyway, she's not. She's not an influencer. But let's get into scrolling time. I got a lot of Waymo videos that my algorithm was throwing at me. So I think these are hilarious. You know how I feel about these self driving cars. They're crazy. Ban them. I'm not for cancel culture, but cancel the self driving cars. So this is someone's first Waymo trip experience. Watch how this went. So here's two waymos that are just getting in each other's way. The Waymo attempts to parallel park. Nope. Comes back out the other Waymo. Oh, now there's a human that's getting caught in this debacle. Waymo backs up into the human and there's a third Waymo. Could you imagine this is a nightmare. Being caught between three waymos with minds of their own and the bike. Driving by on the bike. He didn't know how dangerous that was. All right, this is just ridiculous. Could you imagine being caught? You're the human being in the car and you're trapped by three self driving vehicles that don't know what the hell is. They don't know what way's up. And then you're on the bike and you drive by or you ride by that you don't know. These Waymo cars have minds of their own. They, they just, they, they go wherever.
Andrew
I like that two of them tried to pull into the same parallel parking spot and then didn't. I would just love to.
Haley Karenia
This is like when you do that really awkward dance with someone. Like you're both going the same direction and you're like sorry, sorry. Like these Waymo cars are doing that in the street. Not a good place for that.
Andrew
Saw a Twitter story, fake or not, of this guy who said he was on the highway and the dude behind him in a Tesla was road raging. And so all he did was step on his brakes every once in a while and the Tesla won't hit the car in front of it. So it breaks every time the. The guy braked. Like they're in a line together.
Haley Karenia
Yeah.
Andrew
And just trolling the Tesla by brake checking and the Tesla will not get anywhere near it. So it's break checking. The guy, the guy's just like pissed cuz his car's breaking for him.
Haley Karenia
You just got to speed away from these people. I don't know, it seems like you can get out of the situation very quickly but. All right, here's the. Here's another wayo video. Watch this. So here's a wayo going into oncoming connected to rider support.
Waymo Support Agent
Hi, this is on for rider support. How can I help?
Haley Karenia
I. The call is going the wrong way. It's going on the wrong side of the road. Great.
Waymo Support Agent
I'm so sorry to hear that. Let me double check that here. You will not be able to. I mean this vehicle is not be able to straight straightforward. Because showing here on my map that let me go ahead and escalate this to our team, special team so they will maneuver the car. Okay.
Andrew
Okay.
LifeLock Announcer
Hello?
Haley Karenia
Can you hear me?
Justin
Yes, me Hello?
Haley Karenia
Can you hear me? Yes. Can you hear me?
Andrew
Hello?
JD Vance
Can you guys hear me?
Haley Karenia
Hello?
JD Vance
No?
Andrew
Okay,
Haley Karenia
I'm going to get out the car. That. That's when he gets figured out myself. That's when he gets out of the car. You're on the wrong side of the road. You call customer support. I don't know what the hell the first guy saying. Then they call the next person and the other guy says, hey, can you hear me? Can you hear me? Can you hear me clearly? The person can't hear them get out of the car.
Andrew
I find that hysterical because the microphone in most of these modern cars are optimized for the driver who doesn't exist.
Haley Karenia
Right there. There is no driver. The person is in the back seat.
Andrew
Hello?
Justin
Hello?
Andrew
No, they can't hear you.
Haley Karenia
No, they can't hear you. You're in the back.
Andrew
There's nobody.
Haley Karenia
Right. Oh, my gosh. This stuff pisses me off. And I really do question the people who get in them. So then here's another video. Let's play the next one.
Chat Participant
Go back. The ho from the big repping, Cali
Haley Karenia
connected to writer support. This call may be recorded for quality assurance. Hello, this is Jay with Waymo. I'm just calling in. Just a request to buckle your seatbelt for your safety. Okay, thank you.
Andrew
Thank you.
Haley Karenia
All right, I'm doing it right now. Okay, I'm buckled in. All right. Thank you for the plan. That's all for me. Have a good day. Bye. When you're catching a vibe, but you don't have your seatbelt on, so do you think that this. You know when you go into your car and if you don't put your seatbelt on, it'll sat. Like the sensor knows that you're in the car and you're not wearing a seatbelt? Do you think that that car has that capability and then it triggers the person? Or are there cameras in the car and they can see that you're not wearing a seat belt?
Justin
Both.
Andrew
Both, I would say cameras are interesting. My first. My first reaction was the sensors.
Haley Karenia
Sensors, right.
Andrew
Absolutely wild that they need a real person to call in. There's not just some prerecorded message that plays. But.
Haley Karenia
Which is weird because when you go into an Uber, they don't tell you to put your seatbelt on.
Andrew
I mean, there's a bunch of signage.
Haley Karenia
Right.
Andrew
They legally obligated to tell you to put your seatbelt on. I don't think they can force you, but.
Haley Karenia
Right. I wonder what would happen in that situation. Because they said, please put Your seatbelt on. What if she said no, we need
Justin
to go down to Miami. No, we don't get you in a Waymo.
Haley Karenia
No, we don't. I'm not doing that. And. And what? And then I die for the bit. What do you.
Justin
It's not the Terminator.
Haley Karenia
Just die for the bright line. Just.
Justin
Just a little afternoon on the town. Get a little pura vita, hang out.
Haley Karenia
No. Well, I'm gonna be in Miami next weekend, so I'll think about it. Maybe I'll. Maybe I'll risk my life for everyone in the chat.
Justin
We can comp it.
Haley Karenia
And then what happens if I. I need to go on disability? Do we have that here?
Andrew
Yeah, there is. There's a sign in the closet that tells you that,
Haley Karenia
like I just lose my limbs or something.
Justin
Scrolling with Josh for a couple months.
Haley Karenia
Scrolling with Andy and Justin while I recover from my Waymo accident. Do we have another one or. No?
Justin
I've got one more. Here you go.
Haley Karenia
Oh, it's. Turn left. Oh, God.
Andrew
I know.
Haley Karenia
This way.
Chat Participant
It's inching out. This is actually. Oh, my gosh.
Justin
It's like.
Chat Participant
It's like inching slowly. No, it's gonna go after this car.
Haley Karenia
It's not. It better not, cuz. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Chat Participant
Holy.
Haley Karenia
Oh.
Chat Participant
Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Justin
Oh, my God.
Chat Participant
Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Justin
Oh, my God.
Chat Participant
Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Justin
Sorry.
Haley Karenia
Stopped.
Chat Participant
Oh, my God. Yes. Yes, it stopped.
Haley Karenia
The intersection.
Chat Participant
Oh, my God.
Haley Karenia
Jesus.
Chat Participant
The person's like crying for us.
Haley Karenia
Oh, my God.
Chat Participant
The person's like crying. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh, my God.
Haley Karenia
Do you think Waymo can hear the people crying?
Chat Participant
Do you think the Waymo people can
Haley Karenia
hear them screaming and crying in the back? That. That car was in the middle of two sides of oncoming traffic. At one point, they were just in the middle trying to make a left turn. Again. People are saying do it for the bit in the chat. People are saying that I should take one for the team and I should die and go to Waymo for your entertainment. What? Is it not good enough for me to watch other people almost die for entertainment? You have to watch me do it.
Andrew
Okay, so Grok says that only two people have died in Waymo related accidents and neither of them were where the Waymo was at fault. It was other drivers rear ending or crashing into the Waymo.
Haley Karenia
There was more panic when three people died from Ebola in like 2015. What? We should shut down the whole. We should shut down Waymo again.
Justin
I have to say, I enjoyed my Waymo experience. It was nice.
Haley Karenia
You did it well. You survived. And so you didn't run into any traffic violations or anything?
Justin
No, it was. It was a pretty standard. It was better than some Ubers I've had.
Haley Karenia
Were you in there alone or were you with friends?
Justin
I was with my wife.
Haley Karenia
Okay, with your wife. And you wanted to put your wife's life in danger like that?
Justin
Actually, she was dying to take the Way mo. It was like. Like the main thing on our trip
Haley Karenia
she wanted to do to each their own.
Justin
It was good. It had little, like, lo fi beats. When we got in the car, it was cool.
Haley Karenia
People in the chat are saying, way more safe. It's funny because in the comments of all these way more videos, it's like your life is in way more danger. Like people. It's just. It's funny that people are. Anyway, I have a really cute. Well, two cute videos for you at the end of the show here. So penguins, they mate for life. Some species of penguins mate for life. It's very cute. But the male penguin will present a rock to his lady of choice. And in Edinburgh, at the Edinburgh Zoo, it is mating season. So they had children at a local hospital paint some of the pebbles that the penguins are going to choose from for their, you know, rock engagement rings. So watch. This is here all the pebbles that were painted by the local kids. And they're picking out the rings, the rings, the rocks. I think this is so cute. They're fighting. Look, those ones are fighting over the rocks. Look, he picked one. He's like, no, that one's not. That one's not good. The clarity is not good. Cut's not good. This is just so wholesome. I love ending on a wholesome note. So I saw that this. You know, these men, they get rocks for the ladies, and then once they get pregnant, the men think that they are helping. If the. If the woman is towards the end, I'm saying the woman like the female penguin. When the female penguin is towards the end of her pregnancy and they're really wanting to get the baby out, the male, the husband will put rocks on her. So it's not just an engagement ring. It is also maybe it's somewhat of a hot stone massage for penguins. Or maybe, I don't know, he's trying to stone the baby out of her. But watch this. See, Just pregnant penguins in there. And here are the husbands being helpful. It's totally gonna work. She's like, what the hell? She's like, stop. You're bothering me. Anyway, I thought that that was cute. So thank you for scrolling along with me. You can follow me on all social media platforms except for Threads, so. And Snapchat. So I'm. I'm at Haley Karania. I'm on Instagram, Tick Tock Truth Social X, and my Facebook page is Haley Jennings Karenia. So you can follow me there. It is just the same content from my Instagram, but I did set that up for all of you. So thank you for scrolling along with me. I'll see you right back here tomorrow. Bye. Sa.
Scrolling with Hayley (Ep. 254)
Host: Hayley Caronia
Date: March 12, 2026
In this lively and candid episode, Hayley Caronia and her panel break down the shifting dynamics of the 2028 U.S. presidential primary, with a sharp focus on Marco Rubio's sudden rise as a Republican favorite. True to her unapologetic conservative tone, Hayley explores political memes, the “shoegate” saga in Trump’s cabinet, the ongoing debate on masculinity, and delivers side commentary on current internet trends, chivalry, and the perils of Waymo self-driving cars. The episode is peppered with humor, relatable rants, and the host’s signature blend of policy insights and cultural critique.
[00:30–03:21] Hayley Caronia introduces main theme
Why Rubio?
Trump’s Potential Successors
Political Meme Culture
[11:49–16:49] Major anecdote and meme segment
JD Vance’s Oval Office Story [11:49–13:22]
Media & Meme Response
[20:28–33:50] Viral social commentary segment
The Henry Cavill vs. Timothée Chalamet Debate
Personal Anecdotes & The “Gaydar” Bit
Clavicular: The New (Effeminate) Body Standard
[33:50–39:14] Entertaining sidebars with Hayley's signature wit
Chivalry & Gender Norms
The Clinton Intersection Video
[41:40–48:07] Tech & culture segment
[49:08–End] Feel-good wrap-up
On the GOP field:
“If Donald Trump for the third term is polling above you, you’ve got some issues.” — Hayley Caronia [03:25]
On Marco Rubio's memeability:
“He is also the Miami Dolphins head coach. He is Punch the Monkey’s handler. He is a Mexican drug cartel kingpin. He is Iran’s new ayatollah. I’ve seen him as the human Ayatollah, also the cardboard cutout of the ayatollah. He can do it all.” — Hayley [04:30]
On Democratic candidates:
“Gavin Newsom is the top pick, and he’s a total lunatic... They just vote on vibes and all that stuff.” — Hayley [08:19]
On the Cavill-Chalamet debate:
“This is my type. Henry Cavill. Bryson DeChambeau. Those are men. Those are real handsome men.” — Hayley [21:20]
On gender and attraction:
“We have all of these environmental factors that are turning men more feminine...So you might be thinking, well, then why is the birth rate declining if, you know, men are more feminine and women like that kind of thing?...This is why we’re having a birth rate decline, because nobody wants to do each other anymore. Nobody’s attracted to anyone anymore. This is a huge problem. Everybody’s gay now.” — Hayley [25:08]
On the Clinton video:
“Bill just about tried to add old Hillary to the Clinton body count. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly.” — Hayley [35:45]
“She looks like a North Korean dictator…She couldn’t be president of the United States, so she just dresses up as a Korean dictator.” — Hayley [39:00]
On Waymo cars:
“Ban them. I’m not for cancel culture, but cancel the self-driving cars.” — Hayley [39:18]
Hayley brings a sharp, comedic, and conversational energy to the show, blending policy analysis ("deep bench" Republican optimism; anxiety about the Democratic field) with rapid-fire commentary on internet culture and memes. The episode flows as a group chat come to life, with panelists contributing color and comic relief, while Hayley maintains focus on conservative, culture-warring themes.
This episode offers a full-spectrum tour of the conservative internet zeitgeist—from presidential politics and meme wars, to debates over modern masculinity, the generational divide in dating, and the everyday hilarity of AI follies in modern tech. If you’re looking for unfiltered conservative analysis with wit and a keen eye for viral content, “Scrolling with Hayley” delivers in spades.