Terror Strikes Manchester Again - Hayley Caronia (Ep.147)

Summary

Nightly Scroll with Hayley – Ep. 147: Terror Strikes Manchester Again

Host: Hayley Caronia
Date: October 2, 2025
Theme: A hard-hitting, conservative exploration of current events, focusing on the Manchester synagogue terror attack, U.S. aviation mishaps, ongoing debates over censorship and memes in politics, safety at public venues, and culture-war flashpoints.

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Episode Overview

On this episode of Nightly Scroll, Hayley Caronia tackles the harrowing terror attack on a Manchester synagogue during Yom Kippur, examines a runway collision between two Delta planes at LaGuardia, scrutinizes debates around the suspension of Jimmy Kimmel and political censorship, dissects public figures’ responses to viral memes, addresses rising security concerns at public gatherings, and closes with analysis on fraudulent identity cases and escalating safety challenges. With her usual unfiltered commentary, Hayley is joined by Scott Bryson for the Tactical Detail segment—diving into law enforcement issues and keeping listeners prepared for the tumult of modern America.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Terror Attack at Manchester Synagogue

[00:30 – 05:30]

• Event Recap: On Yom Kippur, a Manchester synagogue was attacked by a British citizen of Syrian descent, Jihad Al Shami.
  • He rammed his car and stabbed worshipers, killing two and injuring three; was shot by police.
  • He wore a vest mimicking an explosive device, which was later found non-viable.
  • Occurred exactly eight years after the Ariana Grande concert bombing in 2017.
• Community & Political Response:
  • UK PM Keir Starmer: “This was Jews being attacked because they are Jews.”
  • Hayley: “I think that is exactly what we're seeing here…on such a holy day in this religion.”
    (Hayley Caronia, 04:00)
• Ongoing Investigation: Two additional arrests; police probing wider involvement.

2. Reflections on Religious Security and Worldwide Parallels

[05:30 – 06:58]

• Hayley compares with attacks on worshippers in Michigan, emphasizing the right of individuals to worship without fear.
  • “You should be able to, you know, worship and not be afraid that you’re going to die because of it. It’s tragic.”
    (Hayley Caronia, 06:12)

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3. LaGuardia Airport: Delta Planes Collision

[06:59 – 10:27]

• Incident Summary: Two Delta flights collided—one departing for Roanoke, VA, the other arriving from Charlotte, NC.

  • Only one non-life-threatening injury.
  • Passengers describe sudden stop/jolt; pilot calmly announced, “We’ve been in a crash. Everyone remained calm, which I did think was a little funny because everyone’s dead silent. The pilot’s like, everyone calm down. Everyone’s dead silent. Calm down.”
    (Hayley, 07:59)

• Analysis on Frequency & Causes:

  • Co-host: “How does that go down that way though?...It seems like these things are just…preventable accidents right from happening. It’s been the story…of 2025.” (07:37)
  • Hayley: Blames on both pilot attentiveness and potential air traffic control lapses, but notes LaGuardia’s specific pattern of incidents.

• Wider Context:

  • Prior near-collision involving Air Force One and a Spirit Airlines plane at the same airport.

• Speculation on Systemic Issues:

  • Hayley: Recounts pilot complaints about LaGuardia as difficult to land in—even after recent renovations:
    “I also have read that LaGuardia Airport has a lot of complaints among pilots. It’s hard to land planes. I don’t know what it is about that. Again, I am not an expert... But apparently it’s a hard airport to navigate…even though it’s been revamped.” (12:12)

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4. Government Shutdown, Air Traffic Control & DEI Debates

[10:28 – 12:12]

• Political Narratives Emerge:
  • Left blames government shutdown for strained aviation staffing.
  • Hayley dismisses this as an excuse: “Just because you’re not getting paid doesn’t mean you start dicking around at work…You can’t really blame, you know, the Republicans or the Democrats even, or Trump or this government shutdown for this kind of thing.” (Hayley, 11:37)
• Raises the possibility DEI (Diversity, Equity, Inclusion) policies may be impacting competency in high-stakes roles.

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5. Jimmy Kimmel Suspension & Censorship Accusations

[12:13 – 18:36]

• FCC Chair to Testify:
  • Brandon Carr may testify before Senate Commerce Committee regarding Jimmy Kimmel’s temporary suspension.
• Hayley’s Analysis:
  • Asserts Kimmel’s suspension had nothing to do with Trump or government censorship: “A lot of people make jokes about President Trump and they don’t lose their jobs, right? So this obviously had to do with the fact that he was saying that Charlie Kirk’s killer was MAGA when he wasn’t. So he lied. And there are rules when you’re on broadcast television and he broke those rules.” (14:46)
  • Points out media corporations made their own decisions, not the Trump administration.
  • Mocks the “fascism” narrative: “If President Trump is this fascist dictator…he’s the worst fascist of all time. He can’t even silence his opponents for more than a few days.”
    (Hayley, 17:28)

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6. Meme Culture & Double Standards: “Sombrero Gate” and “Minion Gate”

[18:36 – 20:22]

• Political Leaders Respond:

  • House Speaker Mike Johnson says:
    “People are getting caught up in battles over social media memes. We’ve got to keep…this is not a game. We got to keep the government open for the people… Just ignore it…[about being turned into a Minion] I thought it was hilarious. You don’t respond to it…Do the people’s business, and let’s get…” (Mike Johnson, 18:37)
  • Hayley praises Johnson’s sense of humor and calls for focus on governing.

• Contrasting Reactions:

  • Democrats decry Trump’s use of AI memes as “dangerous misinformation”—despite championing free speech for “jokes” when their side is the butt of humor.

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7. Media Melodrama and Economic Survival

[22:57 – 27:32]

• Joy Behar’s Gloom:

  • “If you guys think that we can survive another Three and a half years of this. I think you’re delusional. Every day there’s some nihilistic day.”
    (Joy Behar, 22:58)
  • Hayley rebuffs: “We survived Trump’s first four. We survived Biden’s four. The world keeps spinning…It doesn’t matter who’s in office.”

• Co-host on Economic Reality:

  • Suggests Behar likely did better financially under Trump.
  • “I bet you anything after Trump won…she had more money in her 401k than she did after Biden. So she can talk about how we’re not going to survive these next couple years, but…”
    (Co-host, 26:43)

• Ana Navarro and Prescription Drug Tariffs:

  • Navarro expresses concern over 100% tariffs on Ozempic:
    “We’re all going to get fat again because of tariffs.” (28:19)
  • Hayley mocks: “If you need Ozempic to be skinny…I think she’s just personally concerned about her own stash.” (28:22)

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8. Identity Fraud & “Imposter” Stories

[29:31 – 36:48]

• Minnesota High School Exposé:
  • 22-year-old enrolls as a 17-year-old (“KJ Perry”), joins football—only discovered after a month.
  • Hayley flags as a “slippery slope” for lax documentation:
    “This is why [voter and identity documentation] is important… You shouldn’t be able to fake who you are when you enroll for school.”
• NYPD Detective at Ryder Cup:
  • NYPD detective on sick leave sneaks into Ryder Cup in full tactical gear, claiming to be Trump’s security.
  • Sparks discussion on police protocol, vetting, and ethics.

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9. Tactical Detail with Scott Bryson – Law Enforcement & Security Deep Dive

[38:09 – 57:58]

• About Law Enforcement “Imposters”:

  • Scott Bryson: Only 10% of officers are “knuckleheads” who might abuse the badge but even one is a risk.
  • On event security, Scott notes, “if you act like you know what you're doing, you know, people are going to let you in… You’re only as good as your weakest link.” (Scott Bryson, 39:12)
  • Points out the need for better secondary checks, roll calls, and management oversight at public events.

• Security at Public Events:

  • After the Charlie Kirk assassination and other incidents, Scott urges expanded checks for campus/conservative events.
    • “You’re going to have to treat it like a presidential or vice-presidential event…The best way is with a ticketed event, some mechanism to prove who you are, online and at the door.” (Scott Bryson, 55:29)
    • Recommends K9 deterrents, increased use of metal detectors, multiple security rings, and thorough vetting of security personnel.

• Rise in Violence – Veterans, PTSD, Mental Health:

  • Discusses several recent mass violence cases involving veterans with brain injuries or mental disorders.
  • Scott: “We have devolved into a third world banana republic before our very eyes. And there’s no real way to fix this other than you have to carry [for self-defense].” (46:03)
  • On therapy: Hayley laments the “wokification” of mental health care and worries about the efficacy and ideology of practitioners.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Manchester Attack and Rising Anti-Semitism:

  • “UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer said that this was Jews being attacked because they are Jews. And I think it’s hard to argue otherwise on such a holy day in this religion.”
    (Hayley Caronia, 04:03)

• On Meme Controversies:

  • “If someone puts you in a damn sombrero, just ignore it. Ignore it. And honestly, that’s how they should be responding anyway. It’s so stupid.”
    (Hayley Caronia, 19:16)

• On Media Hyperbole:

  • “The world keeps spinning. I hate when people talk like this. It’s so dramatic. You know, the sky is falling. We’re all going to die. Medicare cuts, old people are going to die. Like Rosie O’Donnell said the other day, it’s so hyperbolic and it’s not at all rooted in reality.”
    (Hayley Caronia, 24:02)

• On Law Enforcement Event Security:

  • “You’re only as good as your weakest link…The Secret Service only has a handful of agents that can do the job. And without the police, you cannot do that job.”
    (Scott Bryson, 39:12; 43:51)

• On Security at Conservative Events:

  • “You’re going to have to treat it like a, honestly, you’re going to have to treat it like a presidential or vice-presidential event or like a national security event…Ticketed event. Prove who you are…train professionals…K9 deterrent.”
    (Scott Bryson, 55:29; 56:52)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [00:30 – 05:30]: Manchester synagogue terror attack details and response
• [06:59 – 12:12]: Delta planes collision at LaGuardia, analysis, and broader aviation issues
• [12:13 – 18:36]: Jimmy Kimmel suspension, media “fascism” debates, corporate decisions
• [18:36 – 20:22]: “Sombrero Gate” and meme discourse among top politicians
• [22:57 – 27:32]: Media melodrama (Joy Behar), economic realities, Ana Navarro’s Ozempic panic
• [29:31 – 36:48]: Identity fraud stories: fake student/football player and NYPD impostor
• [38:09 – 57:58]: Tactical Detail with Scott Bryson: event security, law enforcement, public safety, mental health, conservative campus events
• [57:58 – end]: Concluding thoughts, chat questions, and episode wrap-up

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Episode Tone and Style

• Language & Tone: Unapologetically conservative, direct, and humorous with a sardonic edge; generous with personal asides, yet serious and sincere during discussions of public safety or tragedy.

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Summary Takeaways

The episode puts a spotlight on the reality and ripple effects of terrorism and violence—both foreign and domestic—while holding fast to the need for secure religious worship and public assembly in Western society. Hayley and Scott emphasize the necessity of personal vigilance, rigorous security protocols, and skepticism toward media-driven hysteria. The commentary is colored by a deep distrust of establishment narratives (left and right) and a willingness to call out perceived double standards—whether about memes, security, or government competence.

For listeners who missed the episode, expect an hour of bold opinion, real-world security advice, and incisive, sometimes irreverent, commentary on the pressing and bizarre stories shaping politics and culture in late 2025.

Transcript

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[Hailey Karania]

Welcome to Nightly Scroll. I'm Hailey Karenia. If you're watching on Facebook or X I urge you to come over to Rumble. We are all scrolling. All my homies are scrolling in the chat. So if you can join us at 6pm Eastern time, that is where you can watch the entire show in full. And I hope that you do. If you are watching on any of those other platforms, come on over. If you can't catch us at six, I get it. You can listen or watch whenever you want on Apple podcast Spotify. So thank you for being here. Unfortunately, today terror has struck Manchester again, this time at a synagogue on Yom Kippur. Inside the details of what we know now. Also, two Delta planes collided at LaGuardia. Isn't that where President Trump's plane, Air Force One was almost collided with another plane? Remember the for sure air traffic controller was like, hello, wake up, wake up, wake up. What is happening? We're going to get into it. FCC chair Brandon Carr may be testifying over Jimmy Kimmel's temporary suspension. On Also more nonsense from Joy Behar and Ana Navarro. Plus, it is Thursday evening. So we've got tactical detail with Scott Bryson. All of that on More on Deck on Nightly Scroll. You know, it was just eight years ago when terror struck Manchester. If you remember, this was in 2017 at an Ariana Grande concert at Manchester arena and a radical Islamic suicide bomber killed 22 people and injured over a thousand. Now, unfortunately, another radical terrorist has attacked a Manchester synagogue. Manchester police say they believe the synagogue attacker is a 35 year old. And you know, I don't normally say the names of these people, but his first name is literally Jihad. Jihad Al Shami is his name and he is a British citizen but of Syrian descent. And he rammed his car into the synagogue and then started stabbing people. And unfortunately two people are dead now, two men are dead and three are in the hospital with serious injuries. And police are saying that this is a terror incident. You know, two members of the Jewish community there dead and he was wearing a vest that looked like it had potentially some kind of explosive device on it. But police confirmed that the device that he was wearing wasn't viable. And the suspect was shot and killed by police officers just minutes after someone had called for their help. But, you know, this took place on Yom Kippur. It's the holiest day in the Jewish calendar. So the attack was declared a terrorist incident. And UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer said that this was Jews being attacked because they are Jews. And I think it's hard to argue otherwise on such a holy day in this religion. And you have someone of Syrian descent, his name is Jihad, and he carries out this terror, act of terror on people who are worshiping. I think that is exactly what we're seeing here. And, you know, originally I had read that officers at first weren't able to identify the suspect because of the potential that he had explosives on him and a team was kind of working to detonate the potential bombs or whatever that he. The devices that he had on him, of course they weren't viable, like I said, so they were able to identify him. But, you know, two people have been arrested now in connection with this attack. So police are still working on this investigation. It'll be interesting to see how many people were involved in this. Maybe it was just the two. But interesting to know that two people have been arrested and that's in addition to the man that was killed by police who carried out the attack. So we'll see how big this attack was. But very, very disconcerting and tragic to see this happen. And then of course, we saw right here in our country, in Michigan, a similar attack on religion, people worshiping. It's just you should be able to, you know, worship and not be afraid that you're going to die because of it. It's. It's tragic. So our, our prayers are with these people who have, who have lost their lives and who are injured fighting for their lives. It is, it's horrific. But I want to get now into this Delta collision. Of course, you know, it, it wasn't deadly. Of course, no one was hurt badly. There was one injury. But two Delta planes collided last night and it was the wing of an aircraft covering. They were departing for roanoke, Virginia from LaGuardia and then they collided with another Delta plane arriving from Charlotte, North Carolina. And there were 61 people aboard that plane. And this happened just before 10pm and according to the pilot over air traffic control, the. They said that the right wing clipped the nose and the cockpit of the other plane. They said that there was damage to the windscreen and Some of the other screens in there, the. One of the flight attendants on board the aircraft suffered, like I said, non life threatening injuries. She was taken to the hospital, but she's okay. But you know, I was reading this article and they were interviewing people who were on the plane and someone said that the plane that they were on stopped, it jerked, it jumped to the right just after it landed. So interesting. Do you have the flight tracker that we can pull up? I have that there we can kind of see because a lot of the pictures and the videos of the incident don't show the incident that well. But this is kind of a recreation of this incident here, so you can watch. This is Flight Radar 24 and you can see both of these Delta planes converging on one another. One is headed down the Runway, one is making a turn. And it seems unlikely that they wouldn't have seen each other or they would have known that this is a close call. But the one Delta plane that was making the turn stopped and the one coming down the Runway kept going until the, that right wing clipped the nose of the, the other plane that was turning. So someone else that was interviewed said everyone went dead silent. And as everyone went dead silent, the pilot calmly came on and said, hey, we've been in a crash. Everyone remained calm, which I did think was a little funny because everyone's dead silent. The pilot's like, everyone calm down. Everyone's dead silent. Calm down. But I mean, yeah, what else are you supposed to say? I mean, we got into a crash.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

I don't, you know, you think accidents happen. How does that happen?

[Hailey Karania]

Many accidents are happening. Let's just.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

How does, how does that go down that way though? I mean they're, they're navigated, they know where to, what Runway to land on and how to navigate to the, to the terminal that they're supposed to be in. And how do you not see how we've seen a lot of these like it seems seemingly prevent or preventable accidents right from, from happening. It's, it's been the story seemingly of 20, 25.

[Hailey Karania]

No, and I guess this might be. Well, first of all, you know, you can't just rely on air traffic control because you know, if both of these pilots are, they have good vision. I assume you can't see that you're about to hit this plane. I mean, I'm, again, I'm also blaming air traffic control because they're supposed to be doing their jobs as well. But like, maybe if you think whatever I've heard that they weren't going that fast. Again, I'm not a pilot. I'm not an expert. Maybe if he was able to slow down and stop, he would have. Maybe he couldn't in time. But it just seems odd that this is all happening at LaGuardia Airport.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Do traffic rules apply? Like, it felt like maybe the one that was in the turning lane was a little too far out of the way.

[Hailey Karania]

Yeah.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

You know what I'm saying? I mean. So either way, though, the pilot that's coming down the Runway after he landed can't stop in the Runway and let.

[Scott Bryson]

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[Hailey Karania]

Someone in the chat asked, is everyone okay? Yes, everyone is okay. Like I said, one of the flight attendants went to the hospital, but she is okay, and that was the only person injured. So out of the, you know, almost 100 people, everyone was fine, which is great. And they weren't moving that fast. This could have been way worse, by the way. And it begs the question, what is going on at LaGuardia? Because I don't think that this is just an air traffic control question, because we would be seeing incidents like this all over the place. It seems like a lot of this is concentrated at LaGuardia, especially because just a few weeks ago, Air Force One was also having an issue at LaGuardia with a spirit Airlines pilot not looking where he's going. And the. You could hear over air. Air traffic control, the guy saying, hello, the big white and blue one. You can't miss us. You can't miss us. You know, the president's on the plane.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

I believe he said. I believe he said, you know, you know what that is, that blue, blue thing? Do you not know what that is?

[Hailey Karania]

I mean. And he said, stop scrolling on the iPad, as in, like, pay attention. So I don't know what is going on with this. It does. Does not make me excited to fly. You know, we're flying next week. Doesn't make me excited to fly. That's a little tease. We have some exciting things coming on the show next week. But, yeah, it's. It's disconcerting. Also, there's a lot of grumblings online. Of course, everything happens. Something happens at an airport and it goes wrong. And everyone's like, it's dei. But it's so interesting because people on the left are blaming the government shutdown because airlines have warned that if the government shuts down, which it has, this could strain, you know, aviation in the United States because it could potentially slow flights down. Air traffic controllers would be among the workers that are forced to Work without paying. We're not there yet. I don't think they've gotten a paycheck or not a paycheck yet. But just because you're not getting paid doesn't mean you start dicking around at work and you, you're like, oh, well, maybe I'll just get into a little offender, offender bender, because I didn't get my last paycheck. Like, I don't think that's how this works. I don't really think that you can blame, you know, the Republicans or the Democrats even, or Trump or this government shutdown for, for this kind of thing. I think there's an issue with either pilots not paying attention, air traffic controllers not paying attention, and maybe that is because of DEI or policies that allow people who are not as prepared or not as competent to take on these roles. Maybe that has to do with it. I don't know.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

I don't have any kind of statistic on LaGuardia in and of itself being like massively overcrowded and overused as a, as an airport. I mean, if you're dealing with plus 30% of to what the airport can handle, it seems like these things are just like they're. It's amazing that this stuff hasn't happened more.

[Hailey Karania]

I also have read that LaGuardia Airport has a lot of complaints among pilots. It's hard to land planes. I don't know what it is about that. Again, I am not an expert, but I did see a lot of pilots or even former pilots saying on X and on, in interviews and whatever, Saying, you know, LaGuardia is a nightmare. So I don't know what it is about it. You know, I'm not a pilot. I don't know. But apparently it's a hard airport to navigate and they have complaints. So maybe it's, it's just something else. Maybe it's just a structural thing or the size of something, I don't know. But it seems like that's a problem considering LaGuardia Airport has just been revamped and there's been all these updates and they've made it brand new. I mean, LaGuardia is my airport of choice to fly into when I go into New York. I would rather go to LaGuardia than JFK. LaGuardia is much closer and I don't really fly into Newark unless I'm going to see friends in Jersey. So I always fly into, into LaGuardia. And I have friends who live in Queens. It's easier to get to. You know, most of my Friends are on the east side and whatnot. So I don't know. Doesn't make me feel good, though. Does not make me feel good. All right, quick update on Brandon Carr and the whole Jimmy Kimmel situation. So FCC chair Brendan Carr has reportedly agreed to testify in front of the Senate Commerce Committee. And this is all because of the Jimmy Kimmel thing, the incident, his suspension. Apparently this was reported by Semaphore originally. And Brendan Carr, they say, has agreed to testify after speaking to the Commerce Committee chair, Senator Ted Cruz this week. And this has not been. This planned testimony has not been made public yet, and the date has not been set, but it's supposed to be sometime in November or after November. And I just want to say, if this is true and Brandon Carr does have to testify, he's got nothing to hide. Jimmy Kimmel facing a temporary suspension fueled the left psych fascism narrative that they're so obsessed with because, you know, Trump and his big bad fascist government are going to go silence comedians who make jokes about him when in reality, we know that's not what happened. That's not why Jimmy Kimmel was fired. It's not even close to what happened. A lot of people make jokes about President Trump and they don't lose their jobs, right? So this obviously had to do with the fact that he was saying that Charlie Kirk's killer was MAGA when he wasn't. So he lied. And there are rules when you were on broadcast television and he broke those rules. Plus, I don't know how you can blame President Trump or President Trump's administration for this at all, because abc, Sinclair, and nextar all played parts in this. They all made individual decisions about what to do at separate times, by the way. And ABC made their own decision to suspend him. And then, of course, Sinclair and nexstar made their own decision. Sinclair was kind of like, well, we'll have to see how this all goes down next star brought it back. Sinclair, you know, these are all moving parts, separate moving parts. So you can't just blame Trump. But of course, the left is doing that because that's what they do. Do you have a double chin forming? I know some of us probably do. And here's a news flash. People do look at your jawline, and as you get older, it tells your age. So introducing the brand new Jenny Cell neckline lift. It has a dual peptide and MDL technology. This is Genucel's most advanced technology ever. And it could not only help tighten saggy skin around the neck and chin, but could also help plump the lipophilic layers of your skin. To add help contour and define the neckline within minutes it is using peptides and meadow lactones together. It works amazingly quick and you can see results get better every single day. So with Jenny Cells MDL Technology Genitals Brand new Neckline Lift specifically targets that delicate skin on the neck area to help you see tight healthy younger looking skin. You will see results or 100% of your money back. No questions asked with their 120 day money back guarantee Order now and the Jenny Cell Immediate effects for noticeable results in just minutes with your order. No double chin, no turkey neck, no sagging neckline because no one needs to know your age. Genucel.com/scroll jennucel.com/scroll Order now and get free priority shipping. Go to genousel.com/scroll genousel.com/scroll Running a business.

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[Hailey Karania]

Um, but they all came to the same conclusion ultimately, that Jimmy Kimmel would be brought back. They all brought him back. So again, if President Trump is this fascist dictator who's trying to silence the people who make fun of him, he really is the worst fascist of all time. He can't even silence his opponents for more than a few days. And he can't get, you know, ABC to listen to him or Nextar Sinclair or whoever. So clearly he doesn't have this dictatorial control that the left thinks that he does. And the Biden administration, by the way, did a much better job of silencing their opponents and critics during COVID 19 because they bullied social media platforms to silence way more than just one comedian. But who's keeping score? Also, let's get into Sombrero Gate quickly, because Sombrero Gate has turned into Minion Gate. And now we've got all these government officials on the record talking about memes and being asked about memes and jokes and AI and and the way that they respond to the jokes and the memes, it really separates the boys from the men. So let's start with the men. Here is speaker Mike Johnson Saying that he can take a joke.

[Mike Johnson]

You asked me this morning about sombreros and memes and why. Why Hakeem Jeffries is all alarmed by that. Look, these are games. These are sideshows. People are getting caught up in. In battles over social media memes. We've got to keep. This is not a game. We got to keep the government open for the people. I don't know why this is so complicated. And to my friend Hakeem, who I was asked about, man, just ignore it. I mean, Gavin Newsom was trolling me last night. He painted me like a minion. He painted me yellow with big glasses and overalls, and I thought it was hilarious. You don't respond to it. For all my friends. For all my friends, Rs and Ds, don't respond to it.

[Scott Bryson]

Get to work.

[Mike Johnson]

Do the people's business, and let's get.

[Hailey Karania]

Amen. Especially the get to work part. Can we stop doing media interviews at all? Go. Don't go on msnbc, don't go on Fox, cnn, whatever. Get to work. You have a government to open back up. And the fact that they're doing all these interviews and they're talking about memes and jokes and all this stuff, it's like they're. They're jokes. I mean, they literally are jokes. And it was just a little refreshing to hear the speaker of the house say, my Rs and Ds, my friends on both sides of the aisle, can you just leave it alone? If someone puts you in a damn sombrero, just ignore it. Ignore it. And honestly, that's how they should be responding anyway. It's so stupid. And it was also refreshing to hear Mike Johnson say, yeah, Gavin Newsom turned me into a minion. It was funny. I laughed. We should be able to do that and move on and then also do your job. But here is how Tampon Tim is reacting to all the. The memes, the AI videos, and. And here's what he had to say.

[Scott Bryson]

The Trump administration will start firing workers instead of furloughing them. And you think they might target workers in blue states?

[Tom]

I do. I do. I think it goes back to this question, Tom, that it appears like they're trying to do that. The disruption is there, the willingness of the speaker of the House to blatantly. I have seen every. I have seen Fox News even correct this issue that trying to tell the public we're in a massive misinformation campaign. The President himself tweeted, tweeting out AI videos of fake news reports on Health care. This is really dangerous and it's really hard. And I cannot express to you the concern and the absolute baffle, must and fear of our European allies asking me is this stuff really going on? So, yeah, I have a feel that they do that. And again, they're going to tell you this. And like with the va and this is what really drives me crazy. They'll come back and tell you, oh, we're not firing anybody important. We're not going to fire doctors. No, no. Just the people who change the linens or get the surgical instruments clean so they're ready to go. Those people aren't there where the it. The people that allow you to schedule your appointment with the va. There's a reason that all these people work together in agencies and everybody's valuable in them. So, yes, I do worry about that, Tom.

[Hailey Karania]

He's worried about it. You know, he said that he was concerned about something President Trump posted that was an AI fake news report on health care. I scrolled through Trump's Truth Social account and I did not know what he was talking about. Did you?

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

I have, I have not seen that. No. When I cut, when I cut that video, I didn't. I googled, searched that and I could not find it.

[Hailey Karania]

I didn't even know what he was talking about. Maybe it was the RFK Jr. In the, the RFK Jr. Video in the from scrolling time the other day. Maybe he was talking about that. No, I, I honestly, I have no idea what he's even talking about. And I tried to look into it, didn't know. I didn't see any AI fake news report or health care report that Trump put out. So I don't know. But he's calling it dangerous, dangerous misinformation. A misinformation campaign. Which is funny too, because do you remember last week when Jimmy Kimmel was suspended and Democrats were fighting for the right to joke around and to tell jokes? And if you can't tell jokes and it's an infringement on your First Amendment right and you know, it was fascist to crack down on cracking jokes. They just don't like it when they're the butt of the joke and it's President Trump doing the memeing, but they have no issue with Gavin Newsom turning J.D. vance into a balloon or Mike Johnson into a minion. If they didn't have double standards, they would not have double. They would not have standards at all. All right. Joy Behar is such a downer. Listen to this.

[Joy Behar]

If you guys think that we can survive another Three and a half years of this. I think you're delusional. Every day there's some nihilistic day.

[Hailey Karania]

Joy, can we not start there?

[Scott Bryson]

This.

[Joy Behar]

And you're the one. I mean, I hate to be Debbie Downer, but you're. Every day. This guy is undoing something in this country that we value. Every day. Every day is a shock and awe here. And I, for one, am skeptical that we will survive this.

[Hailey Karania]

I am not. I am not. So if you need that for me, I do believe in our system.

[Joy Behar]

She's seen worse. No, no, I have not seen worse.

[Scott Bryson]

No.

[Joy Behar]

I grew up during World War II.

[Hailey Karania]

It's Whoopi that says she's seen worse. No, I need Whoopi to cheer us up.

[Joy Behar]

Cuban missiles, every president, civil rights, and they were all dealt with by presidents who were not, you know, in the business of destroying the country, destroying the Constitution.

[Sponsor Voice or Advertiser]

I'm hopeful.

[Joy Behar]

I mean, we always had presidents who followed the law, including Nixon. As bad as he was, he had respect for the Constitution all the time. And he didn't go after the military and call them names. I'd never heard of such a thing in this country.

[Hailey Karania]

First of all, no one's calling the military names. Pete Hexa just doesn't want fat generals, which is fine, by the way, and not controversial. But, you know, when she said everything is shock and awe here, that's the media industry that she's a part of. She is a part of a media industry that gets clicks and gets viewers. And in order to maintain clicks and viewers, you have to entertain people. Whether it's a news program or an entertainment program or whatever, they kind of straddle the line and do both. You have to keep people entertained. You tend to cover stories that are shocking and get people's attention, rather than some stories that might be a little boring but are really important. And that's just the nature of putting together a show that has a finite amount of time. There's always stories that hit the cutting room floor. That's the way this goes. I have so many stories that I plan. Like, I have 17 things on this list right now. We might not get to all of them. And there were things that I took out and I was like, let me do this tomorrow or let me do this, or, no, I'm not going to do that. I mean, this is just the nature of putting a show together. You can't cover everything. And the things that you do cover tend to be really interesting. So when she says, you know, every day we come in here and it's just a shock. And it's this after this, like she's a part of that because that's the industry that she works in. That's the nature of the business. So I don't know why she seemed so shocked by the shock value that she's a part of every day. But her saying, we're not going to survive another three years. We survived Trump's first four. We survived Biden's for the world keeps spinning. It doesn't matter who's in office. The world keeps spinning. I hate when people talk like this. It's so dramatic. You know, the sky is falling. We're all going to die. Medicare cuts, old people are going to die. Like Rosie o' Donnell said the other day, it's so hyperbolic and it's not at all rooted in reality. What has President Trump done now? What has he done that's going to make the sky fall and we're all going to die? The government is shut down. Right. But the government has shut down before. We didn't die. You know, she just needs to relax and change her mindset. It's like it's her, it's the Rosie o'. Donnells, they create these negative realities in their head and then they live in that reality and they think that that's what the world is like, but they're really creating this negative spiral for themselves.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

You don't want. The fact is, I bet you anything that after Trump won, she had more money in her 401k. Talk about surviving after Trump won. I bet you anything she had more money in her 401k than she did after Biden. So she can talk about, like, how, how we're not going to be able to survive these next couple years. But like I bet you anything after Trump won, after, you know, 2019, 2020, before, she had more, she had more money in her 401k than she had at the end of Biden.

[Hailey Karania]

I would put money on it. I would put money on it. Gas prices are down. Egg prices are down. Anyway, another thing Trump has apparently done wrong, according to the left, is bring prescription drug prices down for Americans. But Ana Navarro was on CNN and she is more concerned about potential tariffs and what that will do for her Ozempic. Watch this.

[Joy Behar]

The time I read last week that Trump was threatening to impose a huge tariff on foreign patented drugs.

[Hailey Karania]

Yeah.

[Joy Behar]

Which many Americans depend on. And that it was supposed to go into effect October 1st.

[Hailey Karania]

Did that happen?

[Sponsor Voice or Advertiser]

So it's interesting with some concerns, Plan Pfizer, which would Potentially be open to those tariffs is supposedly getting an exemption in order to participate in this plan. So tariffs, and this is a great example of state capitalism, tariffs are being used as a tool, as a cudgel, as a sort of a carrot and a stick for companies as and when. And you never know when the rules are gonna change. You know, it could be one thing today, the next thing tomorrow, but this is about holding individual CEOs, individual companies, individual industries, in some cases to heal people.

[Joy Behar]

With a 100% tariff on Ozempic, we're all going to get fatigue.

[Hailey Karania]

And then everybody is operating there, everybody's operating at the whim of Donald Trump. I mean, we're all going to get fat again because of tariffs. And the only way to get skinny apparently is to be on Ozempic. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Come on, it like get in the gym.

[Hailey Karania]

My thoughts exactly. If you need Ozempic to be skinny. You know, I'm not talking about people who are diabetic. I'm not talking about people who have like an actual medical problem who require it. I'm talking about all the Americans who are taking some kind of weight loss drug, whatever it is. And you know, they were talking about this deal that President Trump struck with Pfizer. Pfizer doesn't make Ozempic. They might make some other kind of semi glue tied, wegovy type thing, I don't know. But they don't make Ozempic. So if she is on this brand name drug, maybe she's, I think she's just personally concerned about her own stash, which is fine, she can be concerned about that. But I just thought it was funny that she was like, we're all going to get fat now thanks to Trump. It's always Trump's fault.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Hoard the Ozempic horde.

[Hailey Karania]

It was, it started with the toilet paper during COVID and now it's oic. Everyone, you know, stock up, stock up. Or like Andy said, you could go to the gym, you could try that, you could try putting the fork down. You could also try to do that. Anyway, let's skip to number nine. One last story before we bring in Scott Bryson here because I do want to talk to him too about that New York police officer detective who was an imposter. So I have two imposter stories. First is a 22 year old who used a fake ID and other fake documents to enroll in high school and he posed as a 17 year old. So this was White Bear Lake High School in Minnesota. And they literally let a 22 year old grown man enroll in their high school. And he went by the fake name KJ Perry. He even joined the football team. And he was in school for about a month before people realized that he was a grown man who by the way had some pedophilic tendencies. Isn't that comforting? Isn't that comforting for the parents? So according to the district's guidelines, students have to present a birth certificate or another official proof, proof of a birth date, proof of your address and immunization records in order to be enrolled. And apparently he did that. They are still looking into how he was able to provide these documents with this fake name. So not only is he a, a pedophile, but he has also gotten these fraudulent documents. And so he's had allegations of indecent exposure. Also inappropriate online contact with a juvenile. He was previously convicted of sending explicit images to 15 year old. And here's some more information about this guy. So he was reportedly adopted from Liberia at age 5 and he's been living in the area with caretakers. Now those caretakers spoke with a local news outlet and they said that he may suffer from get this age dysphoria.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

So he can go back and join the football team.

[Hailey Karania]

It's age dysphoria. This is the slippery slope, guys. This is the slippery slope when conservatives are talking about voter ID and the need to actually prove that you are a citizen of this country and prove that you are who you say you are in order to vote and then of course to get licenses and IDs. This is why this is important. You know we're trying to combat fraud across the board, right? You shouldn't be able to fake who you are when you go to vote and you shouldn't be able to fake who you are when you enroll for school. Also, is it, wouldn't it be odd for a school? Like did the caretakers sign him up for school? I've never, I've never, I've never heard of a child enrolling themselves in school. Normally it's a, it's a parent or an adult or a guardian who handles something like that.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

What, what class was he in? Was he like a 20? No, I mean was he 22 year old? Freshman, sophomore, junior?

[Hailey Karania]

That's a good question because it'd be.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Awesome if he was driving himself to school as a 22 year old freshman.

[Hailey Karania]

Well, he was 17. He was posing as a 17 year old. So probably junior or senior. Probably senior.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

This is just so many failures. This is about as bad as the superintendent the guy that's the. You know what I mean? The superintendent that, like, nobody. He wasn't even a citizen. He wasn't even a citizen, and he's a superintendent.

[Hailey Karania]

I would say that one. Well, they're both horrible. I would say this one is worse only because this guy is clearly a pedophile, and he's obviously doing this to get closer to young girls, which is horrific. The other guy in wherever that was in Iowa, he, you know, he had weapons charges. I'm not saying that he's, you know, a great guy and he should be around kids. Of course he should not. But, you know, he wasn't, like, doing any harm to the kids yet anyway. It's both bad. But the caretaker said that he have. He has two birth certificates, too. Again, I blame the caretakers. I blame the parents. This kid is clearly. I mean, I say kid. He's not a kid. He's a grown man. He's clearly troubled. And these caretakers, you know, bless their hearts, I just don't think they were doing that great of a job. Clearly. I don't know how this happens. I don't know how. The school doesn't do background checks. I. Where does he get the fake documents? Why did his caretakers know that he had two birth certificates? I don't. I don't get that. Also, you're 22 years old and people are still taking care of you. Like, why is that? I guess that's more common nowadays. Kids are kind of like, you know, some failure to launch. Kids stay at home longer, but I don't know. All right, here's another imposter story. There was an NYPD detective who showed up at the Rider Cup. He was on sick leave, but he showed up anyway in full gear and claimed he was working security for President Trump, which I guess was enough because they let him in. He was in full tactical dear gear. His name is Detective Melvin Ang, and now he's facing administrative charges for theft of services. He also. He almost got away with this, but he dropped his magazine in the grass. And then I think another cop was like, what's going on? And then they realized that he was a cop that was on sick leave and he wasn't supposed to be there. So then he was removed. But a police source told the New York Post, you know, what if he was looking to hurt someone? You know, just because you're a police officer, and I have the utmost respect for law enforcement and. And veterans and all these. But that doesn't make you a good person. Right? You can have good intentions, and you could even be a great cop or a. A, you know, a patriot. And then you could be radicalized or something could happen. You know, just because you are one of these, in one of these groups doesn't make you a good person. I mean, clearly he was trying to get into the Ryder Cup. To do what? I don't know. Maybe he just wanted to go to the Ryder cup. And he was like, well, I can. I'm on sick leave. I guess I get to wear my uniform and get in. Maybe he just wanted to, like, see President Trump. Maybe he just wanted to. And that's as innocent as it gets, right? This is me giving all the grace in the world. You know, I have this badge. I can use it to get into this event that I want to get into. That's best case scenario, which is also bad. Right? But you don't know what he was planning.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

How unethical or illegal is it to put on your uniform like that for stuff that's not, like, technically, like. I mean, he was. He was. He was on vacation.

[Scott Bryson]

Sickly.

[Hailey Karania]

Sickly.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

So showing up like you're on duty, I mean, that's. That's against. I mean, Scott will know, but that's against.

[Hailey Karania]

I know. We're gonna bring in Scott. We're gonna bring in Scott to talk about this. So tactical detail starts right now. Scott, did you hear that story about the nypd? He was on c. Sick leave. He showed up to the Ryder Cup. You need to explain to me how this works. If you are a police officer and you are tasked with maybe some kind of event security, is there a leadership person that you check in with? Like, how is it possible that he shows up in his gear? He's not, you know, on the schedule, if you will? I don't know the correct terminology. You can tell me, but certainly there's a plan of, like, what cops are supposed to be there and who's not supposed to be there. So he was on sick leave. How is it that he showed up with his badge and all that? And I guess other cops were just like, okay, he's a cop. Fine. We buy it that you're part of President Trump's security. I don't get how this happens.

[Scott Bryson]

Yeah, it's very, very difficult situation to sort of explain. I guess I'll do my best. It's very odd. I like the fact that you gave this guy grace, because it could have been that. It could have been just a Looky Lou trying to get in and do something for free, because unfortunately, and I want to be very careful how I talk about this topic because I've been in law enforcement for 30 years and I'm as true blue as they come. But there are 10% knuckleheads in every profession, right? Cops get a bad rap all the time for being aggressive. They're really not. Because, you know, by and large most cops are good people. But you've got your 10%. They're going to try to do something for free or finagle the system or whatever. So there's that, you know, there are bad doctors, we all know that. But tonight we're talking about law enforcement. So the problem I have with the situation is there is a roll call, right? The Secret Service is going to have their roll call and manpower brief and then the police are going to do theirs. The problem is if this guy, he looked like he was a seasoned veteran to me, you know, the first thing that, when I saw the picture today, like the dude was in short. So that was, that was my first red flag. Like, I'm not saying cops don't wear shorts because there's bike patrol and different things like that, but this guy was in tactical gear, but it looked to me like he was wearing shorts, which I thought was super weird. The problem is if he's, if he's got a little time on the job, which he looked like he did, he probably knows how to, you know, beat the system, so to speak. So if there's a real, if there's a roll call, it. We'll just make up a number. At 9:00 o' clock in the morning, well, he might show up at 9:30 or 10:00 clock and then he's just going to walk in. And half the time if you act like you know what you're doing, you know, then people are going to let you in because you're only as good as your weakest link. And I mean that with all due respect toward the Secret Service, toward the FBI, toward the police or whatever. But if there's a person X on a post and they see, like if I was standing post in the parking lot and this dude came walking by, I'd probably be like, hey, good morning. I mean, why would you think to stop him? It's very.

[Hailey Karania]

Right.

[Scott Bryson]

It's very tricky. I think what we're going to have to do as an agency, not we, they, the Secret Service is going to have to really just button up, button down the hatches and we're going to have to have a little bit more oversight which guys don't like, no one likes a micromanager. I'm not suggesting that, but we're going to have to. We're going to have to do something to, like, double or triple check with. Like, if the site agent is going to have to maybe hook up with the sergeant or the lieutenant or whoever the incident commander is, and then make sure that your p. It's. It's unfortunate that we have to do that, but that's the length that we're going to have to go to. I don't see what else we can do.

[Hailey Karania]

Yeah, and I feel like. I'm sure you can speak to this. I mean, you were just saying if he walked by, you'd say, hey, you know, how are you? You'd try to kind of maybe start some small talk and figure out, you know, who he works for and, you know, if he's wearing tactical gear and maybe if he showed his badge, I mean, wouldn't his badge have been nypd? Then he wouldn't have been on President Trump's security detail, would he have been?

[Scott Bryson]

No, No. I mean, there's definitely a couple of different red flags. The thing is, you're going to have to know, number one, you're going to need to know what district you're working in. If a guy from, you know, a cop showed up with a. With a badge from North Carolina, that would be weird because we're in New York. Right. So you're going to need to know the. The borough you're in or the district you're in. So you need to know what they do is they post, they poke. I can't even talk. They pass around notebooks or different pictures, like, okay, this is what the uniform looks like. This is what the patch looks like. This is what the badge looks like. And if it doesn't match that, then there's, you know, you should lead to some secondary questions, because a guy in a uniform, at first glance, is probably going to look like he fits in, but if you look and say, well, wait a minute, that doesn't look right. Just like the guy that got caught out at Charlie Kirk's funeral. I wanted to talk about this, but we. We had so much going on, we didn't get to, you know, he was purporting to be the sheriff's deputy from North Carolina, and he had a gun.

[Hailey Karania]

I don't think I heard about this.

[Scott Bryson]

You didn't hear about this?

[Hailey Karania]

No. What? Someone was at Charlie Kirk's memorial.

[Scott Bryson]

Charlie Kirk? Yeah.

[Hailey Karania]

The day before.

[Scott Bryson]

The day before. The.

[Hailey Karania]

Friday. Yeah. Yeah, sorry.

[Scott Bryson]

I had A knife and a gun and a badge. And he got question. He looked like he could have been a vice and narcotics guy because he looked pretty ragged. Of course, he was not the police, but somebody was paying attention. What it boils down to, it boils down to people being attentive, situationally aware, paying attention to detail. Just like the agent that found the barrel sticking out at the golf course. When the guy tried to. He didn't get a shot off, thank God. But they tried to take Trump out the second time, and because a guy was paying attention, he shut it down. Here's what it boils down to, Haley. You have to hire qualified people. And I'm not suggesting that the people working that day weren't qualified, because I don't know who was working and who wasn't working, and I don't know anything about those officers or those agents, but you get what you pay for. And, you know, we're not talking about DEI tonight necessarily, but the standard is the standard. And if the person can't make those psychological evals or physical performance, they can't be on the job, period.

[Hailey Karania]

No, I totally get that. And it makes me concerned to know that President Trump is there. Of course athletes are there. There are, you know, thousands of spectators there. There was Governor Kathy Hochul there. Right? I mean, so there was. I mean, I don't even know if there would be NYPD officers there. It seems like they would have enough officers with Suffolk county and Nassau County. But again, I don't know.

[Scott Bryson]

Well, the problem. Let me just say one thing. The problem with these venues are like the Secret Service, by and large, they do a good job. And I know the last year and a half been rough on my guys and, and they've, they've taken some black eyes and they've deserved it. Okay. I've been hard on them, too, on my podcast because we're going to, we're going to speak truth to power. We're going to call balls, strikes, even when it hur. But, you know, you have a large venue like that, the Secret Service only has a handful of agents that can do the job. And without the police, you cannot do that job. It is just too, too large. It is gigantic. I can't even begin to explain how difficult that job is. And without the local police or the states or state guys or whomever, you can't do that job. So we rely heavily on those guys. But they've got to come up with a way. In my humble opinion, they're going to have to. The management is Going to have to come up with a way to vet this stuff a little more. You wouldn't think you'd have to do something like this if, if the police are showing up to, to do a roll call and go to work. You would think they were supposed to. Why would a guy. I get tired of wearing my uniform. Why would you want to put your uniform on a day you're off and go do something? To me, it's completely weird.

[Hailey Karania]

Yeah. And he's on sick leave. I don't know why he was on sick leave, but it seems like to me he just wanted to go to.

[Scott Bryson]

The Ryder cup, which that's what I think it was.

[Hailey Karania]

But who knows, you know, go buy a ticket. I want to talk to you. There are a few other, you know, just horrific incidences that have happened. You know, there was a shooting in North Carolina at a restaurant. It was the American Fish Company Bar. And a former Marine opened fire from a boat. You know, we've talked about a lot of these instances where people are shot at a church or a place of worship or, Or a concert or an outdoor venue. Like, we've been talking about all this. We talked last week about the wedding venue, restaurant type thing and a shooting. And you mentioned, you know, go out the kitchen. There's a, there's an exit there. You know, just ways to think about this. When you are sitting at a bar at a restaurant and you are on the water now, you have to be concerned about someone riding along and, and, and shooting you from a boat, too.

[Scott Bryson]

I mean, you, you can't make this stuff up. If I was writing a book or movie, I wouldn't even think of something this atrocious. I mean, it's even opened my eyes. I'm going to have to tell myself here for just a second, because I'm going to be transparent 99% of the time, I always carry. But what if it's Saturday morning and I want to go down to get some grass seed and, you know, work in my yard or go. Go get a cup of coffee real quick and come back before everybody gets up, moving around the house. There's been a few times when I don't carry. Well, that's over with. That ship has just officially sailed for me. I know Southport. I go to the beach about 30 minutes away from there, and the thought of going to a restaurant, sitting out, having a beer, having something to eat, listening to live music, you can't enjoy life anymore. I don't know what in the world's happened. We have Devolved into a third world banana republic before our own very eyes. And there's no real way to fix this other than you have to carry. That's all you can do.

[Hailey Karania]

I know. Well, at a bar, right, if you're being served alcohol, bars don't allow you to carry in some cases, in most cases. So that's a situation where it's kind of like one of these gun free zones, right, where someone who has a vested interest in wreaking havoc, somehow doing harm to people, they are going to look at these venues as open targets. It's going to be open season. Oh, they. It's a school, it's a bar, it's a nightclub. It's somewhere where you can't defend yourself. I'm going to target that place now. That's what this seems like. And you know, I want to talk too about this guy being a Marine vet, right? Because we just saw this with the, the killing at the Michigan Mormon Church and he was a Marine veteran. And now we're seeing this Marine veteran. I believe it was a veteran also who lit that Tesla on fire in, in Las Vegas. I believe it was. Wasn't that New Year's Eve outside the Trump Hotel? Outside the Trump Hotel. Where was that?

[Scott Bryson]

That was an army guy in Vegas.

[Hailey Karania]

It was in Vegas, yeah. Yeah. So an army guy. So I wanted to talk to you about. Oh, and the shooting in New York City at the NFL headquarters that we had talked about weeks ago. That guy is now confirmed that he had some kind of a traumatic brain injury. He had cte. So when we're talking about people who have a traumatic brain injury, like I just said, or maybe some kind of PTSD from service, how do we get these men help?

[Scott Bryson]

Well, that is a. If I had the answer to that question, I could retire. I mean, the VA's absolutely failed these guys miserably. And I wasn't in the military, so I can only say so much from the cheap seats. But I've heard my friend Carl Higby talking about it and Sean Ryan talks about all these guys, these household names talk about it. And it's just pathetic that the, the level of care these guys have received. You know, TBI is a real thing. PTSD is a real thing. Ct, CTE is a thing. I mean, I know we're not talking about this tonight, but like as an example, Junior SEO, I don't know if you remember him or your audience knows him. Junior, say, I was a, was a linebacker in the NFL for a long time and he tried to kill himself a couple of times before he was actually successful because his brain was jacked up. And the point of the matter is this guy needs help. I didn't know this about him until today. I did a little bit more research. I saw a video with him in 2012 with Kelly Pickler at the CMA Awards. And you could see the massive scar and kind of like a dent in his head. And it may, it hurts your heart. For these guys, they, they enlist and they go over and they, they give blood, sweat and tears and they come home and they're all messed up. And it doesn't excuse it by any means. I can't believe that, you know, he did something this atrocious. But we have got to find a way to help these people. And I just, Other than the community, churches pouring into them and your family network, you can't rely on the, We've seen over and over. The big government just isn't the answer.

[Hailey Karania]

Yeah, I agree. Government isn't the answer. Just breaks my heart because we talk about this all the time. And the common thread between all of these is mental illness. Right. Because no one in their right mind is going to carry out an attack like this on innocent people. So it's just, it's very sad. I, I, I want people, I almost, I wish I could urge people to go to therapy, but then seeing how the therapy industry has been so indoctrinated and been wokified, if you will, it's like, how can you even tell people to go get help? And then, who knows? I mean, we have therapists who are, you know, just affirming people's worst delusions. And it's, it just seems like we're in a very hopeless place. But I want to last question for you. Talk about conservatives reentering this space where they're going back on campus. Steven Crowder is bringing back his Change My Mind tour. We've seen other people like Megan Kelly, Ben Shapiro. They're going to be going out and speaking at campuses. And Turning Point USA just had a big event at, in Utah. It was their first event in Utah since Charlie Kirk's assassination. And there was a bomb threat the day of. So how can we make sure that these people are safe? You know, especially with Steven Crowder, I saw, he posted a video or a photo or something. I saw his, his tent set up and he just was kind of like out in the open, which I, I respect because it's like, you can't be afraid. But how can he and others stay safe doing this kind of thing.

[Scott Bryson]

Yeah. Well, I've always liked Stephen. He's. He's very outspoken and I love that about him. He's very bold, you know. But from the video you're showing here, you know, he did put on some body armor, it looks like. It looks to me like they also brought in some type of ballistic shield. It wasn't necessarily a shield, but more like a glass structure. Of course, the tent that he's under is nothing more than right concealment. That's not going to be cover. You know, he's going to have to really, number one, he's going to have to vet his security team thoroughly. And I want to say this, I started not to tell you this, but I'm going to say it anyway. I actually received a text this week from a friend of mine. I turned down a job to go do some executive protection work for Turning Point usa. And honestly, that was hard to say no to because I'm not good at much, but I'm good at that. And so I said no to it. But they're going to have to. They're going to have to vet their people thoroughly and they're going to have to get the local police on board. You're going to have to have EMTs on board. You know, it. It costs money. You have to. I say this all the time and I know people probably hear me, tired of hearing me say that, but what's your appetite for risk? Whoever's controlling these purse strings, you've got to build in budget for your security personnel. That. It is what it is. We live. We're very, very quickly, unfortunately, we're turning into Israel and Gaza before our very own eyes in a different way. Right. You know, you're going to be sitting out here having tea and something getting blown up one day. I hope I'm wrong, but, like, we can't. You can't go to a fish camp and have a drink. You much less go out here and say something controversial. I mean, it's absolutely sad, the state of affairs that we're living in. And I'm very proud of people like Steven Crowder and, and the others that are going out there. It takes some. That takes some real manhood. But they're going to have to actually, they're going to have to do, like what we talked about last or two weeks ago, the concentric reins of protection. You're going to work from the inside out. I'm sure he's got close, close protection guys, the bodyguard types. They're going to shield him from a Knife attack or a punch or something. Like, we're not worried about getting punched in the face. We're worried about getting shot in the face. So they're going to have to push the perimeter out. They're going to have to take out the high ground. They're going to have to do the 360. They're going to have to have ballistic. I mean, it's going to cost money. It's just, it's going call. It's going to cost money. It's going to take manpower. It's absolutely ridiculous.

[Hailey Karania]

I also feel like we kind of have to. And I don't want this, but I feel like you have to move away from a random crowd type thing where it's just anybody can come up to the microphone. I think all of these people are going to have to be vetted. Maybe it's a ticket, so at least you have everyone's name. Maybe you have to show id. Maybe you have to prove that you're a student, something like that. Where it's. I don't like the people who are in the crowd are, are vetted somehow. I mean, when we talked about Charlie Kirk's assassination, there was the George ZINN Guy who's 71 years old. I mean, what are you doing on a college campus watching Charlie Kirk speak? You know, this is supposed to be like a campus tour. And I'm not saying, you know, it's a public university, so I guess like anyone can just walk on campus, I guess, and show up to these events. But I think moving forward, these college campus events, when people in conservative media want to go into these spaces and actually have constructive conversations with college students, I think it's going to have to be banned like anyone else is going to have to be banned from it. It's just going to have to be college students. Not saying that college students can't take someone out. We, we've seen that they can do that. But if you make sure they're an actual college student, they go to the college that the event is that they, we have their name. Maybe it's a ticket, maybe it's a paid event. I mean, you got to have some kind of a barrier and a paper trail for these people.

[Scott Bryson]

Yeah, I totally agree. You're going to have to treat it like a, honestly, you're going to have to treat it like a presidential or vice presidential event or like a national security event. You know, the nsses that the Secret Service runs. You're going to have to vet these people. And the best way to do that is with a ticketing, a ticketed event, right? You're going to have to have some type of mechanism to. It could be a link, whatever, QR code. You're going to have to prove who you are, you know, online and at the door. You know, you're going to. Listen, we said this a few weeks ago. I made a joke about how my wife couldn't even take her person to a high school football game. Okay, that's fine. If that's the world we're living in, that's fine. But we're going to have to do that across the board, and it really sucks that we have to go to that length. But if we want to be safe, that's what we're going to have to do. We're going to have to start taking security very seriously. We're going to have to, you know, implement magnetometers, you know, not. None of this wanding mess. And, like, I'm barely looking through your purse like TSA does. Like, you're going to have to have trained professionals, you know. Another good deterrent, Haley, and this is. This is sort of outside the box. You know, hire a K9. You know, nothing, nothing deters somebody like a big German shepherd or a Belgian Malwa. That'll get my attention pretty quick. You know, that. That could be abort criteria right there. I mean, you don't know if that's a bomb dog or if that's a drug dog or if that dog will just bite your ass. But you don't want to find out either, right?

[Hailey Karania]

Oh, totally. Oh, I. I totally get that. I. I agree with you. When. When you made a point about, you know, your wife's bag. And I'm not trying to sound like a rabid liberal feminist, because you all know that I'm not, right? But it's not usually the women with their bags that have the, you know, the bomb or the gun or whatever. I mean, I feel like women and their bags are scrutinized and they have to go. And I'm not saying that they shouldn't be, but it's like, I saw this TikTok video, and it was just. It made me laugh because someone was like, okay, well, if I have to bring in a clear bag, then your cargo pants have to be clear, too, because, you know, who knows what these guys are bringing in? And it just seems like, you know, we're not usually the problem. Normally it's the guys. And, you know, the only way around it, like you said, is to go through, like, a TSA type thing. And it just seems like the world we're living in is. It's a scary one. And we are grateful for your insight to help us navigate these kinds of situations. So, Scott Bryson, thank you so much for being here. Host of beyond the Service podcast. This has been Tactical Detail.

[Scott Bryson]

Thank you.

[Hailey Karania]

Someone in the chat said you're so naive. Why? Why am I naive? For what?

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

I didn't. I didn't. I didn't catch why.

[Hailey Karania]

Because I said that men are the ones who carry out these things. Is that naive? I don't know. Show me. Show me a woman who carried in a bomb in her. In her bag into a. A concert. You can let me know. Well, we're at an hour, so.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

No scrolling time, I guess.

[Hailey Karania]

No scrolling time. We'll save it for tomorrow.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

But it's a good one. So that's a tease, right? Tune in for tomorrow.

[Hailey Karania]

It's a good one. It's a good one. So thank you for. For tuning in tonight. If you liked this episode, you can watch Scott Bryson on Nightly scroll every Thursday evening for tactical. Tactical detail. We love him. He's a Silverlock contributor. Of course you should watch this show because I have fun putting it together. I'm. I hope you all do too. Teasing. Scrolling time for tomorrow because it's a good one. And of course, you can follow me at Haley Karania on all social media platforms. In the meantime, thank you for watching and I'll see you tomorrow. Sa.