The Cancel Culture MOB is BACK - Scrolling w/ Hayley (Ep. 276)

Summary

Scrolling with Hayley — Episode 276 Summary

Title: The Cancel Culture MOB is BACK
Host: Hayley Caronia
Date: April 13, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Hayley Caronia returns with a sharp and unapologetic conservative take on the week’s hottest cultural flashpoints. She leads with the viral outrage over pop star Sabrina Carpenter’s Coachella moment and subsequent apology to the “cancel culture mob,” launching into a wider critique of social media outrage cycles, shifting cultural standards, and progressive hypocrisies. Hayley also critiques Cosmopolitan’s coverage of Elon Musk’s transgender child, dissects right-wing influencer culture with reference to Ashley St. Clair, and rounds out the episode with commentary on viral stories — including a bizarre true crime story and lighter moments from social media.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Sabrina Carpenter’s Coachella “Zagruta” Controversy

[01:41-26:52]

• The Incident:
  During Carpenter’s Coachella set, audience members performed a “zagruta” (a celebratory Middle Eastern/North African ululation). Carpenter, visibly confused, dismissed it as “yodeling” and called it “weird,” triggering accusations of cultural insensitivity.

• Hayley’s Analysis:

  • Admits she herself didn’t know what a zagruta was and suggests most Americans wouldn't either.
  • Laments that merely not recognizing every global custom is now a “cancelable” offense.
  • Stands by the notion that performers and audience alike should not have to internalize every cultural expectation, especially in the moment.
  • Criticizes how minor misunderstandings are weaponized for social outrage:

    “Why does [Carpenter] have to interrupt her set because you’re interrupting her set? ...My golden rule is: sit down and shut up. If you just sit down and shut up and enjoy that. You paid for this concert.” ([09:32])

  • Challenges the logic of apologies to cancel mobs — “never apologize to the cancel culture mob morons, because they're just morons.” ([13:32])

• Cancel Culture & Moving Goalposts:

  • Hayley highlights the impossibility of pleasing online mobs whose standards constantly shift, comparing it to the children’s book “If You Give a Mouse a Cookie.”
  • Suggests that Sabrina’s left-leaning activism didn’t shield her:

    “You can do all these things, right...and you can still mess up. It can happen to the best of liberals.” ([14:46])

• Broader Cultural Points:

  • Argues audiences now expect all outbursts and behaviors to be “culturally validated.”
  • Satirizes the precedent set by Sabrina’s apology:

    “If all cheers and yells are welcome, what is stopping someone from saying something like a Nazi saying?” ([25:25])

  • Critiques the hypersensitivity surrounding cultural differences at public events and draws a parallel to white cultural habits (e.g., singing “Mr. Brightside”).

• Memorable Quote:

  “Cancel culture is canceled. If you are complaining about someone just not understanding something or not knowing something, I don’t really understand that…There’s no room for grace.” ([28:42])

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2. Cosmopolitan’s Coverage of Vivian Wilson (Elon Musk's Child)

[30:36-41:14]

• Cosmo Profile:
  Cosmo ran a feature on Vivian Wilson, Elon Musk’s transgender child, pitching her (him, in Hayley’s language) as a cultural commentator and “the queen of clapbacks.”

• Hayley’s Critique:

  • Questions the positive coverage, suggesting Vivian is being celebrated not for achievements, but for being estranged from her high-profile father.
  • Notes the irony of someone profiting from their parent’s fame while publicly rejecting them:

    “She is profiting off of her dad being Elon Musk…because he hates Elon Musk. That's the reason why.” ([32:51])

  • Deconstructs Cosmo’s framing of basic rudeness or disinterest as fashionably aloof, arguing it’s excused purely for ideological reasons.

• Gender, Fashion, & Fetishization:

  • Criticizes the magazine for presenting an adult male in distinctly childish, feminine clothing, highlighting an uncomfortable aesthetic:

    “Why is Cosmopolitan dressing an adult man in girlish clothes? Because there’s an air of pedophilia…It’s weird, it’s deranged, it’s disgusting, it’s disturbing.” ([36:57])

  • Draws parallels to online personalities like Dylan Mulvaney and Lily Tino who present “girlhood” rather than womanhood, claiming this trend signals something more sinister than mere self-expression.

• Memorable Quote:

  “It will never be normal to have a man wear lacy bloomers and little girl clips. It is not normal for men to go into the girl’s bathroom because none of it is normal.” ([39:55])

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3. Ashley St. Clair & the “Right-Wing Influence Grift”

[41:14-46:55]

• St. Clair’s Shift:
  Former conservative influencer Ashley St. Clair, previously associated with the Babylon Bee, now critiques the ecosystem she benefited from — discussing coordinated MAGA messaging and “pay to play” influencer culture.

• Hayley’s View:

  • Frames St. Clair’s criticism as hypocritical given her past participation and suggests her change of heart is profit-driven after personal issues with Elon Musk.
  • Argues “grifting” exists on both sides of the aisle and defending the reality of paid influence in politics and media:

    “You do have to weed out who posts things they actually believe in, and not just because there’s a paycheck attached.” ([44:28])

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4. Melissa Etheridge & “Coming Out Straight”

[46:55-50:05]

• The Story:
  Melissa Etheridge recounts (on The Kelly Clarkson Show) how her son felt shame over being straight and “came out” to her as heterosexual at age 11.

• Hayley's Take:

  • Finds the story more sad than funny, suggesting that in some social circles, straight identities are now negatively stigmatized.
  • Questions the cultural effect of over-correction in representation, where “being straight is bad” and DEI in media is forcibly amplified.
  • Raises concerns about erasure of straight, white couples in media, labeling current trends “a DEI overcorrection…not for the better.” ([49:45])

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5. Viral True Crime & Scrolling Time

[50:05-end]

• Quadruple Amputee Suspect:

  • Hayley discusses the story of Dayton James Weber, a professional cornhole player (a quadruple amputee) accused of murder — marveling at the viral footage of him performing physical feats like handstands and speculating humorously on how authorities could restrain him in jail.

  • Memorable banter:

    “He’s the kind of villain that ends up running the prison…in like a baby carrier and they're like walking him through the prison and he’s in charge.” ([53:41])

• Cute Viral Dog Video:

  • Ends the episode on a lighter note, sharing a snoring dog video with comedic riff on viewer comments, balancing the heavy earlier topics with humor.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Cancel Culture (13:32):
  "Never apologize to the cancel culture mob morons, because they’re just morons. But she also said that she couldn’t see and she couldn’t hear. I totally buy that.”

• On Media Representation (49:45):
  "Erasing heterosexuals from culture and this DEI overcorrection is absolutely having an impact on younger generations and not for the better."

• On the Expectation of Cultural Literacy (28:42):
  "Cancel culture is canceled. If you are complaining about someone just not understanding something or not knowing something…I don’t really understand that."

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Intro and Episode Rundown: [00:00–01:41]
• Sabrina Carpenter Coachella Controversy & Cancel Culture: [01:41–28:42]
• Cosmopolitan’s Vivian Wilson Profile: [30:36–41:14]
• Ashley St. Clair’s Right-Wing Influencer Exposé: [41:14–46:55]
• Melissa Etheridge on “Coming Out” Straight: [46:55–50:05]
• True Crime Segment – Quadruple Amputee: [50:05–53:50]
• Scrolling Time & Viral Videos: [53:50–end]

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Tone & Style

• Hayley’s voice remains confident, sharp-tongued, and unapologetically conservative throughout, blending pop culture commentary with pointed social criticism and a humorous, informal style.
• She weaves in personal perspective and cultural references for relatability, uses sarcasm liberally, and invokes satire (e.g., “If you give a mouse a cookie,” “normalized saying, ‘Is that your culture? I don’t like it.’”).
• Frequent asides and audience engagement (“Does anyone in the chat know what this is?”) ground her takes in everyday, populist sensibility.

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If you want a fiery pop culture recap with an unfiltered conservative punch, this episode is a case study in where the culture wars are being fought online today — and how cancel culture, influencer grifting, and media trends are fueling the debate.

Transcript

[A]

Hello and welcome to Scrolling with Haley. I'm Hayley. Karen. Yeah, I hope everyone had a great weekend. It's Monday morning, or I guess Monday afternoon now lunchtime, and I had a great weekend. I had my best friend in town from Nashville. I met her in Nashville, but then she's from Florida. She lives in Jacksonville, so she just drove down to see me. So we met in Nashville. Both of us moved to Florida. What are the odds? So it was great to get back with her and we had so much fun. We went to the beach, we played golf, we went out for drinks, we went out for dinner. It was just good to see, you know, friends again. So I hope everyone else had a good weekend. I want to get into what we have on today's show, but first I want to tell you to subscribe to the show. And if you aren't already subscribed, please do that. Click the button rumble.com Haley is where you can watch this show every day. Noon, you can watch Vince at 8:00am Eastern Time. And of course, you could listen on your favorite podcast platform and you can even watch on Spotify now. So Spotify, Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio. Wherever you get your shows, make sure you're subscribed. I appreciate it. And tell a friend. All right, the cancel culture mob is back. And guess what? Pop star Sabrina Carpenter's apology wasn't good enough for them. Who could have guessed? Also, Elon Musk's transgender son posed for Cosmopolitan magazine and they dressed him up like a little girl. I am not surprised, but I am disgusted. Speaking of Musk's bajillionth baby Mama, Ashley St. Clair is grifting again. But this time she's exposing right wing influencer culture, the very culture that she profited off of and is now turning on to make money off of lefties now. So put your phones on. Do not disturb. The show starts now. All right, pop star Sabrina Carpenter, she was performing at Coachella and. Wow, this is just. This entire story was my whole X feed yesterday, and I was cracking up at all the memes, which we'll get to in a second. But I've talked about Sabrina Carpenter on the show before in the past, and I have criticized her, but I like her. I have criticized her because she made a sexual music video in a Catholic church. And. And then I forget all the details of that, but there was this whole, like, fraud scheme with Mayor Eric Adams attached to that whole story, which is totally wild. But I criticized her for that. And I also, I've con criticized her for contributing to this man hating culture with the lyrics in her songs. She calls men children, she calls them dumb, she calls them stupid, slow and useless. I don't agree with that, but. And I think, you know, a lot of women listen to her music and they probably agree with that. Or maybe she's perpetuating this man hating culture, but she's definitely a part of it. And you know, she never signed up to be a role model for kids. You know, she has very sexualized outfits and dance moves, choreography and you know, she didn't sign up to be your role model. So. So for that I, I'm not going to be, you know, scandalized over that. But people do get mad. Oh, I took my daughter to her concert and I was shocked at how sexual she was. Okay, well that's the parents fault because they didn't do any research into who she is. I just have no sympathy for parents like that. So anyway, she's allowed to do and say whatever she wants and people are allowed to dislike it. And in today's day and age, we have lost the art of ignoring and leaving what you don't like and just moving on. If you don't like it, you don't have to comment on it. You don't have to say anything. You could just move on. Right. People just have to comment on everything. Now I personally choose to take what I like, leave or ignore what I don't. So I choose to listen to Sabrina Carpenter's music. Am I her biggest fan? No. Do I listen to it all the time? No. But some of the songs are catchy and I don't really, I'm not like a big proponent of listening or like harping on lyrics. I think we've talked about this on the show before. I kind of just listen to whatever if I like the beat or I like the tune or whatever, but I don't really care. So I am not and never will be a cancel culture loser. I don't expect celebrities or influencers to affirm my political beliefs or be my moral compass. But to the woke left who don't believe in God, they don't have a moral compass. They do tend to look to their favorite celebrities to be the epitome of perfection at all times. They never want their celebrities that they like their favorite influencers to step out of the lines that they have carefully drawn. But then the goal posts are always moving. So the influencer or the celebrity, the athlete, whoever it is, they're always set up to fail. They're never going to make these people happy. They're actually perpetually miserable, so they'll never be happy. So this is the moment from Sabrina Carpenter's Coachella set that has her under fire watch. Is that what you're doing? I don't like it. That's your culture is yodeling. Is this Burning Man?

[B]

What's going on?

[A]

This is weird. You know, the. You know, just tell it like it is. Sabrina. This was her raw reaction to hearing the zagruta, apparently, again, I'm learning this for the first time, too. This was Sabrina Carpenter's reaction. Was my reaction. What is that? What are you doing? Is this Burning Man? What's going on right now? What does this sound like? What is this sound? Right? So apparently the people in the audience, if you couldn't hear in the video, they're yelling at her, and they're saying, you know, right? And then she's like, what are you doing?

[C]

One more time.

[A]

What are you doing? And she said, I don't like that. That's your culture. Your culture is yodeling. So clearly she doesn't know that this is a zagruta. Am I pronouncing that correctly? Probably not. Okay, so I don't know what I'm talking about either, but Sabrina Carpenter says, I don't know. She's just hearing people in the crowd making noises. This is a kind of noise. And I don't mean this to sound culturally insensitive, but this is the kind of stuff I would do in middle school if I was trying to be annoying in class. Like, this is. I've made this noise before. Okay? So I don't know. She thinks that someone is just being annoying in the crowd. She doesn't think that this is some cultural call or celebratory call, because. Why would she think that? She doesn't. She didn't know. But this is a zagruta for people who need a. A culture lesson, like myself. There it is. All right. I didn't know what it was, but now we're all. We're all learning today. Okay? So on that video on X, the person who posted it said, to anyone who's uncultured, here's how a zagruta sounds, which is clearly not yodeling. It's a form of celebration performed at weddings and moments of joy all around West Asia and North Africa. Learned from many generations. Calling it weird or brushing it off is disrespectful. So what, that Sabrina Carpenter didn't know what that was? I think a lot of people probably don't Know what that is? Especially people in America. And Coachella takes place in California. And I didn't know what this is. Does anyone. Does anyone in the chat know what this is? Does anyone know what this is? Or have you heard about it before? Because this was my first time hearing about it. Cancel me, I guess, cancel everyone who doesn't know everything about every culture on the planet. That is essentially the stance of the woke left. You are going to be offended by everything, and if you can't predict what they're going to be offended by next, they're going to ruin your life and cancel you. So according to the cancel culture mob, Sabrina Carpenter should have reacted like this. This is a South Korean rapper, Young G. Am I pronouncing that right also? Probably not. Okay, but this is how she reacted to a Zagruta at a concert that she was having.

[D]

Yes,

[A]

Yes. The woke mob wanted Sabrina Carpenter to appropriate their culture. See, But I don't know if that would have happened if. If Sabrina Carpenter had done that, would she have gotten the same reaction? I don't know. I actually don't think so. Because, again, these are the people who are offended by everything. So if they say, if they have Sabrina Carpenter on stage, she's a white girl, blonde hair, and there are people in the crowd trying to, you know, educate her, and. And she starts saying, are they going to be mad or are they going to be happy that she's appropriating their culture? I thought that they didn't like that.

[C]

The phrasing was crazy. It can't be brushed off. Like, it has to be acknowledged.

[E]

You.

[A]

You have to acknowledge it. Right? And isn't this such a weird. There's a time and place for everything. And clearly this noise is for wedding celebrations and joyful, you know, celebrations. Right. I guess you could say that Coachella fits under that. But we're not in, you know, West Asian culture. They're not in African culture. They are in, you know, wherever this is. Where is Coachella? It's in, like, I just know it's in California. Somewhere in California. And. Okay, so that's not our culture. So now you're asking this white girl, who clearly has no idea what's going on to. To accept your culture and to take part in it. And why is this happening in the middle of a Coachella set? Isn't Sabrina Carpenter a little busy? Is now the time to try to educate someone on this woke nonsense while they're trying to perform? Sabrina Carpenter is trying to perform for a whole crowd. There's probably hundreds of thousands of people at Coachella. And she has to now take a break from her set to go address like a. Probably a group of two or three people that are interrupting her set. Why does she have to interrupt her set? Because you're interrupting her set. And now she has to learn a lesson from you. No. Why don't you? Again, my golden rule is sit down and shut up. If you just sit down and shut up and just enjoy that. You paid for this concert. You paid for this concert. Just enjoy it. But she didn't. So now Sabrina Carpenter, her fans are reacting to this. Here is the first one. Someone posted this on X saying that she needs to be canceled. Saying, I'm in complete shock. I used to be a huge Sabrina Carpenter fan and now she's mocking my culture and calling me weird. This is so racist and inappropriate and it made me feel uncomfortable. This white, blonde, racist woman should be canceled. Isn't it so funny? I used to like Serena Carpenter. Now she's a white, blonde, racist women woman. So it's like, oh, so you liked her, then she made misstepped in your opinion, and now she needs to be canceled. I always find that so funny. You like this person. They do one thing wrong and there's no grace like these people have. It's a foreign concept to them to forgive someone for doing something wrong. And I don't think that Sabrina Carpenter needs to apologize or be forgiven or any of that for. For this. And I'll get into that in just a second. But they. Their. They're miserable people. They're miserable people. They liked this person. They. They were a fan of Sabrina Carpenter. They liked her music, and she did one thing wrong. Now. Now she needs to be canceled. Now it's. No one else can like her either. If I don't like her, she's canceled. Her career needs to be over. That's what these people do. This is the cancel culture mob. Here's another one saying that she's done. Oh, this is one that got deleted, right? Okay, so a lot of these videos are getting deleted because of copyright strikes. But this woman said Sabrina Carpenter mocking a zagruta as yodeling after being educated on it. On its culture is so nasty. Being uncultured and proud is actually a disease. The mean girl act isn't cute anymore. It's just xenophobic. She's done. And then this one, Sabrina Carpenter saying that she doesn't like a cultural Arabic cheer. And this is so insensitive and Islamophobic. I'm very Disappointed in her? Does she have to like it?

[C]

I'm confused. The response was supposed to be.

[A]

Someone in the chat just said, yodeling sucks. See, now you pissed off all the rednecks down in the south. This is. You don't have to like every sound. You don't. You don't have to like it. I don't have to like cultural Arabic cheer. I'm not Arabic.

[C]

We educated you and you did not immediately implement it into your show and. Or educate the entire crowd. Canceled.

[A]

Right, Canceled. And my point is, if she did do that, that she would probably have people. Maybe not these specific Cancel Culture Mob people, but another group of Cancel Culture Mob people would come for her for appropriating the culture. So basically, she's damned if she does, she's damned if she doesn't. And yet she had to put out an apology. So she says in re. Someone said Sabrina saying that she doesn't like cultural Arabic cheer. This is the tweet that she responded to. My apologies. I didn't see this person with my eyes and couldn't hear clearly. My reaction was pure confusion, sarcasm, and not ill intended. Could have handled it better. Now I know what is a gruta is okay. I welcome all cheers and yodels from here on out. So this is going to set an interesting precedent at a Sabrina Carpenter show. There's a lot that we can get into here. She said, my apologies. I didn't see this person with my eyes. I wonder what difference that would make. That almost is saying if she saw that they were Muslim, she wouldn't have made fun of them. If they were just white people in the crowd yodeling, it was a problem. But if they're Muslim, she never would have. She never would have said that she didn't like their culture. Right. This is what I mean, never. And I mean never apologize to the Cancel Culture Mob morons, because they're just morons. But she also said that she couldn't see and she couldn't hear. I totally buy that because I've. Listen, I've never performed a Coachella before, but I would assume that it is very loud. It's very difficult to hear. I'm sure she has her in her ear. She's probably got people talking to her. She's probably got her music in her ear. Then she's hearing everyone in the crowd and the lights are shining on her. It's probably very hard to see the crowd. So specific people in the crowd. Maybe you could see the front row or the front two rows, maybe but other than that, you just have to put yourself in Sabrina Carpenter's shoes. She hears and she's just trying to, like, make a funny joke with her audience and try to connect with her audience. And obviously it fell flat because people are morons. But it's a lose, lose game that you're never going to win. If you decide to apologize to these people, they're not going to like what you say. They're not going to accept your apology. They've already decided that you are an irredeemable, morally inferior, uncultured swine and they hate you. So there's nothing that you could say that is going to be good enough for them. And Sabrina Carpenter, by the way, has been a very good little liberal. She made the sexual music video in a church. She's told the Trump administration to not use her music. She's called Ice evil and disgusting. She's pro abortion. She voted for Kamala Harris and she messed up in the eyes of Cancel Culture. Right? So you could do all of those liberal things. You can try, you can grovel to the Cancel Culture Mob and all the liberals that are fans of you. You could do everything right, or so you think right, to keep these people happy. And you can still mess up. It can happen to the best of the liberals. You can do everything your PR team and your manager tells you to do. You can still, you know, you can find yourself in a political and cultural hot water moment because you had the audacity to get annoyed when someone interrupted the concert. And the Cancel Culture Mob. This is exactly. I use this analogy all the time. And I don't know if anyone knows what I'm talking about, but there's this childhood book that I read in my childhood called if you give a mouse a cookie, and this is the Cancel Culture Mob. If you give a mouse a cookie, this is what the book is about. There's this little boy and there's a mouse in the house and the mouse asks for a cookie. The boy gives the mouse a cookie, but then he gives the mouse a cookie and he wants everything else. It's like a childhood book. It's like if you give someone an inch, they take a mile. Wrapped up in a kid's book. If you get to give him a cookie, he's going to want a glass of milk, then he's going to want a napkin, then he's going to want a straw, then he's going to want. This is the Cancel Culture Mob. This is the left. You give them the pro abortion thing. You give Them, the sexual music video in a church. You do sacrilegious stuff. You hate on Christians, you hate the Trump administration, you're pro abortion. You do all these things, right? It's never enough. Because you got annoyed when someone went while you were trying to sing. It's never enough. You're never a good enough liberal. You're not. But let's talk about this interruption because I think certain noises at concerts are to be expected. Cheering, woo. Clapping woo. Things like that. Normal, right? Someone comes out on stage, you're going to hear people make noise. But in the middle of, if someone is singing in the middle of a song and it's a slower song or a more quiet song, a ballad, something like that, Shut up, right? You're there to experience the concert. You want to. Everyone at the concert wants to hear the person sing. They don't want to hear the person next to them making annoying noises. But people genuinely don't know how to act anymore. This is why we've seen concert behavior just out of this world. We see it on planes, we see it in restaurants. It's like collectively people how to. They forgot how to act in public or to be a decent human being. And everyone wants to get attention. Like it's just an attention seeking culture. And maybe some of these noises, I guess can be attributed to differences in culture and just misunderstandings. But for the most part, people just don't know how to shut up. It's a lost art. Everybody wants to go viral. Everyone wants to rage, bait a celebrity and see them crash out while thousands of people film them like zoo animals. Why do we keep seeing instances of people throwing phones at celebrities? Bebe Rexha, she's a pop star. This is, this was like maybe a year and a half ago, two years ago, someone threw a phone at her, hit her in the face. She had a black eye. Same thing with Riley Greene. Recently I covered this on my show. This was probably last week or a week and a half ago, someone threw a phone at Riley Green and he was bleeding on stage. Why is anyone throwing anything on stage? Because I guess back in the day it started with like, I don't know, a post it with your phone number on it or like some girls would throw their bra or something. It you throw a bra at someone, they're not going to die. But if someone throws a phone or another projectile and it is heavy enough to do damage and make someone bleed, why are we doing that? Why, why has it been taken to this extreme where you want to do harm to people that you're paying to see. Like, you're clearly a fan of this person. I just don't understand. If you can't go out in public and be a normal human being, don't they used to say this during COVID all the time? Stay home, save lives, right? Stay home, save lives. If you are one of these perpetually offended people that doesn't know how to act in public, Stay home, save lives. Then this moment with Sabrina Carpenter has sparked memes and jokes. And I was just getting a kick out of this last night, scrolling through X. My entire feed was this Sabrina Carpenter moment. So someone said, my face when I hear press one for English. Because now, now this reaction to a different culture. If you're not white now, this is going to be the go to meme for this. So my face when I hear press one for English again. We're in the United States of America. The fact that English wasn't our official language until Trump said so is crazy. I mean, everyone here speaks English. Even when we travel abroad, everyone speaks English. Cause they want our business and they want people to go over there and be able to speak the language. It has become not just our official language, but everyone is speaking English now. Right? And it's not crazy to want to be able to speak English in your home country where everyone else is supposed to speak English and you're hearing press one for English. It's just, why are we. Why are we here? How do we get here now? Which way, western man? Right? You can either this Mayor Jacob Frey in Minneapolis, Remember he was given the Somali slop and he was told, you better. You better eat it and you better like it. And he did his best.

[C]

He looks like he's about to throw up.

[A]

I love how he's doing like the A okay symbol with his.

[C]

This is so good.

[A]

Well, he holds the throw up in his mouth. He's like, oh, yeah. This guy next to him is like, yeah, you like it? You like it. This is what the aok is for. It's because he can't open his mouth. It'll all come out. Yeah. So it's which way, western man? Do you want to go the way of Mayor Jacob Frey where you're just virtue signaling. So much so that you will eat stuff that you find disgusting or will you just pull a Sabrina Carpenter? I go with Sabrina Carpenter. Is that your culture? I don't like it. Normalized saying, is that your culture? I don't like it. Here's Mamdani eating with his hands. Is that your culture? I don't like it. And guess what? It's. It's okay. It's okay to not like it. Then people were drawing parallels between this moment with Sabrina Carpenter and Sydney Sweeney being asked about, you know, how do you feel about being this like, white savior complex princess, Trump maga, blah, blah. And she's like, I don't care. Right. Whether she's a Trump supporter, full blown or not, she clearly doesn't care. And she clearly loves people around her who have those viewpoints. Right, right. And she doesn't get offended by it. And, you know, after that situation, I thought, is Sydney Sweeney going to apologize? She never did. She never did. Never apologized. She addressed it, but she never said, I'm sorry, I apologize. I didn't mean to. Like, why would she have to apologize for her family wearing shirts or wearing hats? Like, that's. This is why I prefer Sydney Sweeney's reaction to all this. Like, Sabrina Carpenter was funny in the moment because I think it was real and raw and her apology was probably just like trying to grovel and get him back to their good graces. But City Sweeney, I mean, she just doesn't care. And that's what I love about her. Then someone posted this on X and I, I did understand this sentiment. They start explaining it to her in the middle of her set. This isn't about you. Right. Like, what is. What does this person say? Apologize to me for interrupting your concert. Yeah. And it's like, why. Why would Sabrina. Why would Sabrina Carpenter have to apologize to someone else who interrupted her? Why is that the correct moment to teach Sabrina Carpenter about your. Why do you have to school Sabrina Carpenter in that moment about your celebratory yodel that nobody knows about? And you know, normally when people are interrupting concerts, they are the asshole. People ask, am I the asshole if I do this? Am I the asshole? Yeah, if you're interrupting someone, you're the asshole. But see how in this moment, because of the cultural differences, immediately you're forgiven. If you are. If you have this cultural outburst, immediately you're forgiven. The white person is wrong. The brown person is correct. This is how this goes. And I'm not saying that the people making the noises were intentionally being rude. I don't think they were. I think they genuinely. This is a celebratory yell for them, and I think they were doing it. But. But they also were loudly interrupting a concert. Like, two things can be true at once. They probably didn't mean any harm by it, but they were being the asshole. And at some point you have to read the room and adapt. Is everyone else going? No. So maybe don't. Maybe don't. Are other people cheering and clapping? Sure. Are they hooting and hollering? Maybe, Maybe not. But maybe you just have to, like, look around and see what other people are doing. Now, Sabrina Carpenter's apology sets an absolutely ridiculous precedent because she says all outbursts are okay now. So if you go to a Sabrina Carpenter concert, you can essentially do whatever you want now, because she just told you that in. In order to not be canceled, she will let her fans do literally anything they can interrupt her show, and she'll just never say anything. So you can blame it on your culture. And it's okay to be loud and wrong. So this person brought up an interesting point that maybe they're going to try at Sabrina Carpenter's next concert, screaming, Heil Hitler at the next Sabrina Carpenter concert. Because all cheers and yells are welcome. This is what I mean by you set an interesting precedent. If all cultures are welcome, if all cheers are welcome, if all yells are welcome, what is stopping someone from saying something like a Nazi saying or. Or why? I mean, people in the chat, yee haw, right? You could say whatever you want. These are the rules that Sabrina Carpenter has set. And the cancel culture mob was like, you let us do what you want. You let us do what we want. And she said, yeah, yeah, I'm going to do that. And I just want to say, too, this is just a point that I want to make, is it's really not appropriate in the moment because other people in the audience, they want to hear Sabrina Carpenter, and I don't think that is necessary on top of Sabrina Carpenter songs. I just don't think it is. And to make this point, people on X were. Were putting this Zagruta on top of other songs. Here is a Zagruta on top of Candle in the Wind by lt.

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And

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it seems to me you've lived your life like a C. Is this better? Did it make it better? Did that make it better? Then people were saying, you know, while we're on the topic of, you know, culture, let's talk about white culture. And, you know, people were saying online, you know, that there was a iconic. Do you. Can you pull up the. The screen cap first? And then we can play the video. Can you do that? Because this person, their criticism of Sabrina Carpenter was that, you know, if you don't know what a Zagruta is, you're uncultured. So to anyone who's uncultured, and now this person is making fun of that post saying, here's how Mr. Brightside sounds. Yeah. Which is clearly not yodeling. It's a form of celebration performed at weddings and moments of joy all around Michigan, Michigan and Iowa. Alert from many generations. Calling it weird or brushing it off is disrespectful. And I will say that this is white culture. Screaming Mr. Brightside by the Killers and jumping up and down with all of your white friends is. And I don't want this ruined by as a group. Sorry, let me just say what everyone's thinking. I don't want to Zigruza in the middle of my Mr. Bright side. And Sabrina Carpenter fans probably didn't want a Zagruta in the middle of their favorite concert. So anyway, I got one for you.

[C]

Yeah, a little surprise.

[D]

All right, crew, howl with me so

[A]

that we might set the seven seats. Oh my gosh.

[D]

Blaze with fear.

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Yes. I knew this is sounded familiar. I knew this sounded familiar. This is also white culture. Spongebob is like white millennial culture. Moral of the story is cancel. Culture is canceled. If you are complaining about someone just not understanding something or not knowing something, I, I don't, I don't really understand that like Sabrina Carpenter and then everyone on the face of the planet is just supposed to know everything about everything. There, there's no room for grace. There's no room to be educated or to. I mean, it's just, it's you just knee jerk reaction is to cancel the person. I hate it. I hate it here. Taking a quick break to tell you about our sponsor for today's show and that is Blackout Coffee. I've been loving this lately. It's a premium American coffee company known for bold flavor, high, high quality beans and roasting fresh right here in the US Every order ships straight to your door. So you always have an amazing cup ready whenever you need it. And what I love is how smooth and rich it tastes without any bitterness. With that perfect balance of flavor and energy getting me through busy mornings and long days. You could try their subscribe and Save programs. You can always have a fresh cup of coffee on hand. You could switch flavors anytime, pause or cancel whenever you want. Plus you get discounted pricing, free shipping and reward points on every order. It is simple, it is flexible and, and it saves you money. They offer dark roasts, flavored coffees, espresso blends and more. Something for every coffee lover. Now is the time to try Blackout coffee. Go to blackoutcoffee.com and use code scroll for 20% off your first order. Once you try it, you won't want to go back. I actually didn't have my morning coffee today, and I was just running late this morning and I'm wondering how good my Zagruta would have been if I had had my morning coffee.

[C]

Would have taken it to a 10.

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Yeah, for sure. This was like a low energy Zagruta. But that's okay. Maybe next time. Let's talk about Vivian Wilson. I don't even know what Vivian Wilson's name was before. Do you guys know this is Elon Musk's son, who is now going by a woman. And they did a. I'm saying they because it's a he, but is going by a she now here. This is why they get me all confused and then they have me using their language. I didn't mean to use they. I'm just confused. So Vivian Wilson, boy, did a whole thing with Cosmopolitan magazine and they are calling Vivian the queen of clapbacks on threads. And she uses threads because she won't use X because she's estranged from her father. She doesn't like her father. She hates her dad. This is like, I hate my dad. Final boss. You know, you hate your dad so much, you transition to a girl. And anyway, make it your whole personality to defy him at every moment. This is like very high school. But I digress. So Cosmopolitan felt the need to highlight and do an expose and a piece, a glowing piece, I should say, on Vivian Wilson. And they throw shade at Elon Musk immediately. So they say this, Vivian Wilson is Not your average 21 year old. By the time you read this, she'll have not long finished walking for Gucci at Milan Fashion Week. Prep for by strutting the garden path of the LA home she shares with three friends alongside her modeling work. Wilson is a rising cultural commentator, transgender rights activist, and has her own merch line. She also happens to be the estranged daughter of the world's richest person, Elon Musk. I will say too, there is this narrative now that people hate nepotism. They hate nepo babies. And it's. It's funny because she is. Or he is so estranged from Elon Musk, right? He hates his dad and he's getting all these opportunities because he hates his dad. So isn't that a form of nepotism? Also, he is profiting off of his dad being Elon Musk. He is profiting. He is being asked to walk for Gucci in Fashion Week, Milan Fashion Week, because he hates Elon Musk. That's that's the reason why they wouldn't be. He wouldn't be famous otherwise. So I, I I'm going to keep going on this article here. It says for the unacquainted Musk, CEO of Tesla and SpaceX, owner of X proves money cannot make you funny or likable. Vivian, in contrast, is both of those things. That's so interesting to me. I've never seen Elon Musk as unlikeable, have you? Would you consider Elon Musk unlikable? Maybe not personable in the same way, but I think I don't dislike him.

[C]

Yeah, I'd say like mannerisms wise, like maybe we wouldn't be like best friends, but like, yeah, I don't think he's just like an unlikable human being.

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Right. And I've never met Elon Musk, but I would probably have a cool conversation with him. I think he's an interesting person. And anyway, Vivian doesn't seem so likable in this little snippet of this interview. So I just want to, I want to read you this because I think they think that Cosmopolitan thinks that he is likable only because he hates his dad, Elon Musk. So this is what it says. Quote On a rainy Tuesday night for me in Essex, on a sunny LA morning for Vivian, she appears on our video call in a pale pink tracksuit, coughing after missing our previously scheduled call due to sickness. She declines my offer to reschedule again and initially I'm concerned about her muted answers. I'm going to get another coffee if you don't mind. I just woke up, she explains. My brain is not turned on yet. I can't like activate the neurons or whatever. She disappears, leaving me to make pleasant, awkward small talk with her publicist. Moments later, she reappears with a mug. The caffeine hits. Vivian Wilson is in the room. This is such a glamorized, like rose colored glasses way to portray this instance that was definitely not as funny or cool as they seem to want to make this. This seems to me like he is rude, he's not showing up on time, making people wait, didn't want to reschedule. Sounds like a classic Gen Z self entitled baby. And but Cosmopolitan, because he hates his dad, Cosmopolitan wants to turn him into this cool girl, you know, aloof, just needed her coffee kind of a thing. We're making excuses for Elon Musk's transgender child because, you know, he hates his dad. Just weird. So apparently Elon Musk's son is a model now. And of course, Cosmopolitan is trying to turn her into a fashion icon. And this is what they say off the Runway. Her style is unpretentious. And she says consumerism is getting out of hand. Most of my clothes I've had for a long ass time. She looks around her bedroom. God, I need to do my laundry. But yeah, I don't buy a lot of clothes. I kind of dress like a goblin. She laughs, crowning her aesthetic as a wine drunk aunt who has exactly two cats and a parakeet. I wear the same shirt constantly to the point where my publicist brings it up all the goddamn time. But I'll amp it up for the cameras but. Or if I'm doing drag, which is my favorite thing. So they are turning him into this fashion icon. And let's discuss the style that they put a boy in, a man in. So let's pull this up. If we could just show the photos of what Elon Musk's son is wearing. A pink frilly dress, it almost looks like 80s style with the tutu underneath, like a hot pink tutu and sort of a bubble skirt on top. And it's pink, like pale pink lace. And he's wearing these pale pink fishnet esque stockings. And I don't even know what's on his feet, like some flower. It looks like flowers threw up on his feet. So this is the kind of style that they're going with for this shoot. And if you could bring up the screen cap of the Cosmopolitan article again because you'll see this other picture that I want to get into. It's really disturbing, really, really disturbing. Because the COVID photo, they have him lying on a bed and the bed is white and pink and floral and frilly. And I'll tell you as a woman, I wouldn't have those sheets on my bed. This is very girly. This is a girly bed sheet style. And it's obvious that they're trying to portray him as a girl, not a woman. Although this is a 21 year old man, they are trying to portray him as a girl. And what he's wearing is this white shift dress that has bloomers, like lace bloomers all over it and oversized girl hair clips. Again, these are the kinds of underwear that a young girl would wear or something that you would put like a bloomer over a diaper. And it's pink gingham, it's white lace. Like these are not something that a man would ever wear or even a baby boy. This is very much girl coded. Also the hair clips These oversized hair clips, these are the kinds of clips I would wear in my hair. Very Y2K 90s with when I was a baby, when I was a toddler, when I was a little girl, I would wear these hair clips in my hair as a woman. As a, an adult woman, I would not wear that. So why is Cosmopolitan dressing an adult man in girlish clothes? Because there's an air of pedophilia to all of this. There's an air of sexual fetish to all of this that is really disturbing and it's really gross. And we see this with Lily Tino. I've played videos of Lily Tino before. This is the grown ass man who wears little girl's clothing and goes into the bathroom at Disney World. Grown man going to Disney World with no kids of his own going into the bathroom wearing girls clothing. It's wrong. It's wrong no matter how you slice it. Same thing with Dylan Mulvaney. Why do you think that Dylan Mulvaney came out as a girl? These are my 365 days of girlhood. He came out with this girlhood series on TikTok when he came out as a woman. Oh, I'm a woman now. But he never came out as a woman. It was a girl. It's day one of being a girl. Day two, day three, day a thousand of being a girl. They don't want to be women, they want to be girls. It is grown men wanting to be girls. And if you think that this isn't pedophilia, I need you to get your head out of your ass. It's pedophilia. It's weird, it's deranged, it's disgusting, it's disturbing. And we need to protect people from these people. And this narrative that Cosmopolitan and others are trying to push on society, it is not normal. Stop trying to make fetch happen. It is not normal. It will never be normal to have a man wear lacy bloomers and little girl clips. It is not normal for men to go into the girl's bathroom because none of it is normal. Men identifying as girls never going to be normal. But speaking of Elon Musk, his bajillionth baby mama, Ashley Sinclair, she has now started posting online again. And if you all followed her, I feel like most conservative people used to follow Ashley Sinclair. She had a huge following on X. She was conservative. She posted sort of like an aggregator. She would comment. I think she worked for the Babylon be a little bit. She's funny and she would post all the time as A conservative. And after she had Elon Musk's baby and that all blew up in her face, she has now started grifting to the left. So this is what she had to say. She's exposing right wing influencer culture, the very culture that she profited off of for a very long time.

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Watch get ready with me while I tell you about how the pay to Play MAGA influence campaigns work. For those who don't know, my name is Ashley St. Clair and I was involved in MAGA politics and was a MAGA influencer for almost a decade. I know now MAGA and really maga, not so much, just GOP messaging is incredibly coordinated. And I was initiated into this very young, about 19 years old. When I was first brought on to Turning Point, that was when I was invited to my first Turning Point event and was really thrust into this MAGA influencer ecosystem.

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The way that she talks about being initiated into the conservative movement at Turning Point, she's trying to make it seem like she was groomed into talking about conservative politics and she didn't want to. So she either lied about her viewpoints for 10 years or she's lying now. My guess is that she's lying now. The other option is that her bad experience with Elon Musk turned her into a liberal, which I guess is possible. But what I really think happened is she knew she blew it with the MAGA crowd. She's probably genuinely conservative and holds those viewpoints, but having two baby daddies and not being married is not really popular among conservative Republicans. Also, bashing Elon Musk and complaining about the money that he's giving you also doesn't really land well with conservatives who happen to like Elon Musk, or at the very least are grateful that he bought X and for his contributions to Doge and to society. So she has to grift in the opposite direction now, which is extremely embarrassing. And she's acting like there is a gun to her head to post about politics. She was explaining how she was working with certain MAGA crowds. She was invited to go to events with White House people and she was talking about how they would get her into group chats where she was part of these groups with other big influencers and they would talk to people at the Trump administration and she's talking like she was forced to do that. No one forced her to do this. Like she willingly took money to talk about issues that that she's essentially admitting that she never believed. That makes you a lying grifter. Is Ashley Sinclair the Only lying grifter in the industry. Obviously not. But why would you sign on to promote certain campaigns if you don't believe in them or if you don't agree or if you think it's morally wrong? She's clearly very money and power hungry, and she talks about being easily influenced by people in the Trump administration, billionaires. Okay, so clearly you're very influenced by social climbing. Certain people may be very wowed by or starstruck by people in government. And those are the people who talk to their Internet friends about how they're plotting to get pregnant with a billionaire's baby. So now she's been burned because she did that. Been there, done that. It didn't work out very well. Elon Musk didn't want to settle down, you know, after having 14 baby mamas, Elon Musk didn't want to settle down with her Shocker. And, you know, in order to make more money because she bit the hand that could have fed her forever. She thinks that she's exposing some kind of breaking news about Republicans and messaging and propaganda. And this is exactly how messaging works on both sides of the aisle. You don't think that the DNC and other groups have group chats that discuss messaging and strategy and they pay people to get messages across. Like, influencing is a job, whether people want to admit it or not. And it's hot right now. You don't have to think that it's a real job, but people do get paid and they pay their bills doing it. And social media influence has a price. And that applies to political talking heads that you and I follow. On social media, if someone has a million followers, 2 million followers or more, not even. You don't even have to have that much. I think if you certain influencers make correct careers out of it and they have, you know, 200,000 followers, 300,000 followers, I don't really understand why people are so scandalized by the concept of people making money to live and putting a roof over your head. The same way that they don't have to take a paycheck. You don't have to talk about or believe in their content. You don't have to like their stuff. You don't have to follow them. So, of course, as we navigate the Internet landscape, you do have to weed out who posts about things that they actually believe in, and not just because there's a paycheck attached. I want to talk about this clip I saw on on Social before we get to scrolling time here. I think this is the last thing I have before scrolling time, but Melissa Etheridge, and I don't know, when I saw that name, I didn't recognize it. Maybe you people understand or maybe you listen to her music, but Melissa Etheridge, I'm going to look it up here. Her songs, big songs. I'm the only one. Bring me some water. It will be me. Come to my window. Okay, so I would say most of her hits are from the 80s and 90s. And she is gay, She's a lesbian, but she has children, so I guess she came out as a lesbian later in life. And here she is on the Kelly Clarkson show talking about her new album out. And she was talking about her son who has since passed away, who had to come out to her as straight. And I love that there's people like Harry Styles or other men out there really owning whatever the hell they want to do because he's like, well, somebody told me I couldn't paint my nails. And I was like, you can do whatever you want. And so there still is that influence of, like, what is boy? What is girl? Sometimes, and it's annoying, especially when you're a parent. You're like, just do whatever you like.

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Oh, heck, yes. Believe me. And, you know, the kids find. The kids come in all who they are anyway. And just watching them find that is really. I remember my oldest son, Beckin, who actually passed away when he was about 11. He came to me and goes, mom, I'm sorry, but I think I'm straight.

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Okay. I'm so sorry. Laying it down.

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No, really, it's okay.

[A]

Oh, my God. That's incredible.

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I tried to tell him it was a phase, but

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we were trying to

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pray this straight away.

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But okay, so I'm not laughing. I did not find that funny. I thought that that was a really weird thing and almost a really sad thing to have to admit. So Melissa's son Beckett ended up passing away at the age of 2021. In 2020. And he struggled with an opioid addiction. But it just got me thinking how at 11 years old, Beckett felt shame about being straight. And they're joking about it in this clip. I don't find it funny. In the late 90s, after his mom came out as a lesbian, he felt like he needed to apologize for his heterosexuality. Think about how. And that was in the 90s. Think about how our culture is now with so many more kids identifying as gay or trans. The conversations are always about pride, how we can be allies to this community, how they're painted as victims of this harsh Right wing conservative country that hates them so much, which isn't true. But I wonder how much that narrative trickles down to kids now, either from their own liberal parents or TV shows or culture in general. And they perceive being straight as bad, and they perceive being gay or queer or questioning or somewhere in the middle as good. And that's why it's gotten to this point. Let's take TV commercials, for example. When was the last time anyone saw a straight white couple in a. In a TV commercial? It's very rare. Or in a TV show, very rare. It's a lot of interracial couples. It's a lot of gay couples, trans people in TV shows. They almost seem like they're trying to forcefully inject the DEI everywhere. And the left says that representation matters. I would argue that erasing heterosexuals from culture and this DEI overcorrection is absolutely having an impact on younger generations and not for the better. Let's get into scrolling time. Against your neck.

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Hurry up.

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I'm losing energy.

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So this is a video of that double, or, I'm sorry, quadruple amputee suspect who murdered someone.

[C]

Hey, that was perfect.

[A]

And this is him doing a hand, snorting something, and then shooting a firearm. I've seen it all. I truly have seen it all at this point, because this is the guy. Because this video came out on TMZ over the weekend. But I covered this on the show a few weeks ago when he was accused of murder. And this is a professional cornhole player, no arms, no legs, accused of murder. His name is Dayton James Weber, and he was arrested in Charlottesville, Virginia, because he was picking up some friends. He had a friend in the front seat, two friends in the back. He was picking them up from work. He got into an argument with the guy in the front seat, ended up shooting the guy point blank in the face twice. And then he asked the friend in the backseat to help him get rid of the body, and they said no. So they got out of the car. And then authorities found the friend that he shot on the side of the road. So this guy who's got no arms and no legs, dumped a body out of the car, was driving the car again. When we covered this the first time, I thought, why wouldn't someone else drive? You've got the friends with no arms and no legs driving the car. He's your designated driver, the guy who's on drugs.

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And I've seen this guy do more stuff than, like, most of the friends I have. Yeah, like physically do more stuff.

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I Don't even know if I could do a handstand like that.

[C]

He's giving Marco Rubio a run for his money on activities.

[A]

Participated in much different, Much different Marco Rubio. He looked very good at the, the UFC thing. Did you see him throwing up the 305? He's very cool. He was cool guy.

[C]

Just a great guy. Very talented.

[A]

Just all around great guy. This guy, this quadruple amputee. I would say probably not a great guy indeed. But I do think, how does this happen? You're at a party and you say, I'm going to do a handstand. Can you help me snort something? Yeah.

[C]

You don't just like in a handstand sync up?

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Yeah.

[C]

You have to pre plan that hole

[A]

and then film and make sure that someone's filming it.

[C]

Yeah, My guy has to have somebody filming him. I mean, the amount of stuff caught on tape of him doing things is crazy.

[A]

Now I want to see his whole camera roll. I want to see everything. I think I do. I think I do want to see everything. All right, this next video. This tiktoker was asking the right questions about this quadruple amputee.

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Not even trying to be funny. I can't stop thinking about it. Like, how do you think they're restraining the quadriplegic murderer? I have no idea. And, and I work that he is a serious threat. Like I think he can escape. I don't know. He's very capable of things I can't even do. And I, and I have all my limbs. I'm completely able bodied. I can never snort coke in a headstand because I can't do a headstand. So I just, like, I just don't know. Like I, I just don't know. I feel like they have like a belt on him and it's like leashed to the wall. I don't know though. I don't know. I feel like he could get out of that. So I'm just curious. Like I'm just going to Google it. I don't. But the.

[A]

I never thought about that. How do you restrain a quadriplegic? You can't put him in handcuffs. You can just pick him up, I think. But I wouldn't, I wouldn't put it past this guy to be able to run pretty fast.

[C]

He's the kind of villain that ends up running the prison. Like, you show up a few months later and somebody's got him in like a baby carrier and they're like walking him through the prison and he's in charge.

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Totally. Totally. I could see it. I could see it. All right, last video that I want to show you. Is this just a cute video? I just want to end on this dog. Very sleepy dog. Watch. Like, is this real? Stay on. He's snoring. That's so cute. Birdie. Birdie has snored. Like, not that much, but she has snored. Like, where? I don't know. She makes some weird noises when she snores, but I thought that was really cute. And the comments were just cracking me up. People said. Just flubbering and flubbering. Bubble barks, borble borks. Just sniffing and snarfin. Glorpen and blorpin. Bloofin and borfin. Woobling and bubbling, Pleaping and blooping. The car won't start. Just burbling and gurgling, gurgling and gobbling. I can't even read this. Moobling and snibbling away. Warbling and woobling. Anyway, I just thought that that was cute. So thanks for scrolling along with me today. I will see you right back here tomorrow. Make sure that you subscribe to the show, you tell a friend about the show, and you follow me on social media at Haley Karenia, and I'll see you right back here tomorrow. Ban.