The World Has Gone Crazy - Scrolling w/ Hayley (Ep. 294)

Summary

Podcast Summary: Scrolling with Hayley

Episode 294: “The World Has Gone Crazy”

Host: Hayley Caronia
Date: May 7, 2026

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Overview

In this episode, Hayley Caronia delivers rapid-fire analysis and her candid, conservative perspective on several trending stories and controversies. She dives into the latest updates on the JP Morgan sex slave scandal, discusses the mental health medication debate after commentary from Ella Emhoff (Kamala Harris’s stepdaughter), covers Ozempic’s “personality” side effects, talks about the spread of hantavirus from a cruise ship, unpacks the headline of the founder of Elf Cosmetics becoming a priest, debates government-briefing rumors to pastors about UFO disclosure, and ends with a hopeful note from Marco Rubio on American exceptionalism.

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Main Topics & Key Discussions

1. JP Morgan “Sex Slave” Scandal Update

[02:00–25:14]

• Summary of Allegations and Internal Findings

  • Hayley reviews the bizarre case of a male JP Morgan banker accusing a female executive, Lorna Hejdini, of drugging, sexually abusing, and racially harassing him. She frames the lawsuit as outlandish, describing the accuser’s allegations as “fan fiction” and lacking evidence.
  • JP Morgan stood by the executive, citing no wrongdoing found in the internal investigation, and highlighted the accuser’s refusal to provide evidence.

  Quote [04:50]:

  “He filed a lawsuit that read like his very own fan fiction... Considering there is no evidence... JP Morgan is standing by her after this internal investigation.” – Hayley

• Settlement Details & Implications

  • The Wall Street Journal revealed the bank offered a $1 million settlement, which was rejected; the accuser demanded $20 million instead.
  • Hayley’s take: the offer wasn’t an admission of guilt, but a bid to protect the executive’s and company’s reputation.

  Quote [09:54]:

  “What do you get out of this? Like, if you’re lying, the truth definitely comes out.”
  – Hayley

  • Both Hayley and her co-commentator ridicule the accuser’s decision:
    • “Take the money and shut up.” [10:34]
    • “He’s never gonna work again. He should have taken that million dollars.” [10:36]

• Credibility Issues and Mental State

  • New information reveals the accuser lied about his father’s death to secure three months of paid leave—a revelation Hayley shreds as another sign of his deception and poor character.
    • Headline referenced: “Ex JP Morgan banker ... Pretended his dad was dead to get bereavement leave.”

  Quote [12:38]:

  “That’s so much Fortnite.”
  – Hayley, sarcastically describing the accuser’s use of leave.

• Escalating & Shifting Claims

  • Lawsuit got thrown out, he filed a new one with anonymous “witnesses” alleging further exploitation.
  • Hayley and team point out absurdities, mocking the scenario logic of wild threesome allegations and “racist pet names,” concluding nothing adds up.

  Quote [22:53]:

  “The racial terms that he claims she’s using are so endearing that there’s no way that she’s racist.”
  – Co-host

  • The consensus among hosts and chat participants: the accuser lacks credibility, likely suffers from deeper issues, and is “full of shit.” [25:24]

2. Mental Health & SSRIs: The Ella Emhoff Video

[25:14–36:00]

• Viral Video Commentary

  • Ella Emhoff, Kamala Harris’s stepdaughter, shares her concerns about being on SSRIs for over a decade, referencing a Wall Street Journal podcast on the lack of long-term research and challenges of discontinuation.

  Quote [26:42]:

  “I feel like so many of us are on these meds and ... people get off of them and they kind of break down and it could be really bad.”
  – Ella Emhoff

• Hayley’s & Audience Reactions

  • Hayley praises Ella for being willing to publicly question her medications despite the risk of pushback.
  • They deep-dive on SSRIs, with Hayley’s co-host noting that FDA approval doesn’t guarantee long-term safety, and drawing parallels with other drug controversies.
  • Comments from listeners highlight struggles with withdrawal and frustrations with the medical system’s quickness to medicate.

  Quote [27:56]:

  “We should be questioning doctors, we should be questioning why they’re prescribing benzos and SSRIs for people seemingly at the drop of a hat.”
  – Co-host

• Cultural & Political Overtones

  • Discusses the political framing of medication debates as left vs. right, noting that some leftists frame SSRI skepticism as a “right-wing narrative.”

  • Hayley draws connections between SSRIs, side effects (like sexual dysfunction and emotional dulling), and the broader youth mental health crisis, even speculating about links to transgender identity—a controversial stance in the podcast’s typical no-nonsense tone:

  Quote [32:22]:

  “I wonder if ... they became transgender because obviously it’s a mental illness. And ... they think there must be something else wrong with them, not that it’s a side effect of the SSRI.”

• Takeaway:

  • Push for more caution with prescriptions, stronger focus on underlying causes and holistic health, and skepticism of pharmaceutical quick fixes.

3. Ozempic & Drug Culture Skepticism

[36:00–41:38]

• New Concerns Around Ozempic (“Ozempic Personality”)

  • Reports of emotional flattening and “anhedonia” among users, similar to SSRIs.
  • Hayley extrapolates about a slippery slope—one drug requiring another, creating dependency loops.

  Quote [36:24]:

  “These drugs have been marketed as safe and effective. Where have we heard that before?”
  – Hayley

• Personal Reflections

  • Hayley shares her journey to reduce prescriptions (acne treatments, birth control) and her pro-natural approach, while still valuing modern medicine in serious illness.

4. Hantavirus on a Cruise Ship

[41:38–46:01]

• Outbreak Update

  • Three deaths reported, with suspected human-to-human spread of the Andes virus variety.
  • Hayley and co-host mock the official response, noting the public trust issue with official health pronouncements after COVID-19.

  Quote [44:08]:

  “The fact that they have completely eroded public trust—that’s a problem. Because the next time there is a pandemic ... no one’s going to give one shit what the CDC and the WHO says.”
  – Co-host

  • Both reaffirm they are “anti-cruise ship”—cruise ships are the setting for too many mass illness outbreaks.

5. ELF Cosmetics Founder Becomes a Priest

[46:01–50:09]

• Interview Highlights

  • Scott Vincent Borba discusses finding spiritual meaning after business success, giving away his fortune, and embracing a calling to the priesthood.

  Quote [47:42]:

  “I was a poster boy for luxury ... I finally accepted the call … everything that God gave me, all my money, all of my … everything I had, including the current company, I have given it all away.”
  – Scott Vincent Borba (from archived interview)

  • Hayley and co-host praise Borba’s journey from materialism to faith, applauding his willingness to sacrifice economic success.

6. Pastors & UFO Government Disclosure Rumor

[50:09–55:06]

• Rumor Breakdown

  • Pastor Perry Stone claims the government briefed pastors to prepare for public UFO revelations, allegedly including “reptilian” creatures and crafts with off-world materials.
  • Hayley and her co-host share skepticism, suggesting the framing is reverse psychology and questioning why religious leaders would take cues from the government rather than biblical authority.
  • Both lean toward interpreting UFO phenomena as spiritual warfare rather than literal extraterrestrial visitation.

  Quote [53:23]:

  “I don’t need any pastors, priests, religious leaders taking notes from the government … the authority comes from the Bible. It doesn’t come from the government.”
  – Co-host

7. Hopeful Finale with Marco Rubio

[56:37–62:29]

• Rubio’s Vision for America

  • Hayley shares audio of Marco Rubio answering a press question about hope and American ideals. He speaks about America as a land of opportunity, continual improvement, and exceptionalism.

  Quote [56:44]:

  “We want it to continue to be the place where anyone from anywhere can achieve anything … Each generation has left the next generation of Americans freer, more prosperous, safer.”
  – Marco Rubio

  • Hayley expresses admiration, suggesting Rubio stands out as a future presidential candidate who could unite both sides, especially compared to Vice President Vance and Democratic contenders.
  • Lighthearted speculation on future ticket lineups (Vance vs. Rubio), with joking desire for a Kamala Harris–Rubio debate.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On the JP Morgan case:

  • “No woman ever has ever said anything like that.”
    [07:53 – Hayley, on the bizarre language in the lawsuit]

• On SSRIs and Big Pharma:

  • “Every drug that you take, you are experimenting. That’s what this is.”
    [33:20 – Co-host]

• On the cruise ship outbreaks:

  • “I would absolutely never go on a cruise. You could not pay me.”
    [46:01 – Co-host]

• On faith vs. government (re: UFOs):

  • “Why would the pastors even take that meeting? ... They should be prepared with biblical truth.”
    [54:40 – Co-host]

• On Rubio’s presence:

  • “When I saw that, I thought, wow. Not only is he well spoken... He has such a love of country that is admirable.”
    [57:43 – Co-host]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• JP Morgan scandal intro and new details .............. [02:00–16:11]
• The “bereavement leave” lie & further credibility loss ............ [10:46–16:11]
• New lawsuit and catch-up on wild claims/logic .......... [16:11–25:14]
• Ella Emhoff and SSRIs / medication debates ............. [25:14–36:00]
• Ozempic “meh” personality & drug skepticism ............ [36:00–41:38]
• Hantavirus cruise ship story ............................... [41:38–46:01]
• ELF Cosmetics’ Borba becomes a priest .................. [46:01–50:09]
• Gov’t/Religious figure UFO rumors .......................... [50:09–55:06]
• Marco Rubio’s address and closing commentary .......... [56:37–62:29]

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Tone & Style

• Hayley’s delivery is sharply skeptical, sarcastic, and deeply distrustful of institutions (media, corporations, pharmaceutical industry, government).
• She is unapologetically conservative, blending cultural commentary with humor and pointed analogies.
• The episode keeps a lively, fast-paced energy, combining pop culture, policy, and personal stories.

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Takeaways

• On Scandals: Evidence matters; viral allegations can irreparably damage reputations even when false.
• On Pharmaceuticals: Question medical orthodoxy, especially with long-term prescriptions; holistic health is undervalued.
• On Trust: Public faith in institutions is low post-COVID; skepticism is survival.
• On Faith: Purpose and morality supersede material gain.
• On Hope: Despite “chaos,” the American ideal persists—and strong, values-driven leaders are needed for its future.

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This summary is designed to capture the major themes, insights, and notable moments from Episode 294 of Scrolling with Hayley, providing newcomers with a thorough understanding of the discussion and key takeaways in the show’s original lively and candid tone.

Transcript

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Learn more at comcastcorporation.com sports hello and welcome to Scrolling with Haley. I'm Haley Cardia. There is more to the JP Morgan sex slave story. More details raise questions about the moral, character and mental state of the John Doe who cried she wolf. Then Kamala Harris's stepdaughter is waking up to the reality that being on SSRIs for long periods of time could maybe not be so good for her health. Plus, inside the rumors that pastors have been briefed by the government about UFOs, I don't know about that. Quick reminder to subscribe to the show. Thank you for being here if you're watching live. If you're already here, you already know rumble.com Haley is where you can watch this show live at noon Eastern every day, Monday through Friday. If you can't catch us live, you can watch it on Rumble whenever you want. You can also listen and watch on Spotify or listen on your favorite podcast platform. I don't care how you watch or listen, just tell a friend and leave a nice review. But five stars do all the things, touch all the buttons. It makes me happy. Okay. Also, want to get to our ad break before we get into the show? What does it feel like when your clothes actually feel good? Like not just fine, but the kind of comfort you notice the second you put them on. This spring, Cozy Earth made me rethink what I wear at home because honestly, what you wear inside matters just as much what you wear out. And the Cozy Earth jogger set is made with viscose from bamboo. It is incredibly soft and breathable and it somehow gets better with every wash and the clogs. The comfort is hard to explain until you try them. Real support, easy to slip on, style enough to wear to the mailbox or to the farmer's market. Plus they back everything with a 30 day return policy and lifetime warranty, which says a lot. 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And the JP Morgan banker claimed that over the course of two years, the this executive roofied him on multiple occasions, took advantage of him, sexually abused him verbally, made racist comments about him and his wife, stalked his finances and ultimately ruined his career by refusing to let him move internally. He filed a lawsuit that read like his very own fan fiction. It seemed like he wrote down things that he wanted done to him rather than the abuse that actually took place. Considering there is no evidence of any wrongdoing on the executive's part and JP Morgan is standing by her after this internal investigation. And he made some pretty salacious claims. He claimed that she claimed, if you don't F me, I'm going to ruin you. Never forget, I effing own you. He claimed that she called her his little. Or he. She called him her little brown boy. Her little Arab boy toy. And the most viral claim was that she said, I bet you're a little Asian fish head wife doesn't have these cannons. Which we talked about at length on Monday. No woman ever has ever said anything like that. She also allegedly laughed about his genitals not tasting like curry. He claimed that other executives at JP Morgan were bullying him for his race, threatening to call ice on him and also calling him brown boy. He then claimed that she gained access to his bank account somehow in order to stalk his every move. I was. I would imagine a claim like this could be easily be debunked by JP Morgan Chase. He also claimed that he tried to leave the job. It was going so badly for him. He was getting abused, but he couldn't get a job anywhere else because everyone that he asked at JP Morgan wouldn't give him references. And he claims it's because she wanted him to stay at the company and, you know, within her reach, although she was not. He was not a direct report of hers ever. Um, so I. My theory on Monday was that maybe he wasn't as good of an employee as he thought he was. Because if you're a good employee, you're an employee in good standing at the company. It's pretty easy to move internally if you're well liked and you're a hard worker and you have no issues in the workplace. I mean, people would want to help you and want, would want you to retain that talent. And I think, you know, anytime I've wanted to move internally, my bosses have been happy to help me. So I don't know. He claims it's because, you know, he was just so sexy that she wanted to stay around him. But I called BS on that. JP Morgan Chase put out a statement saying, in short, that they had no evidence of anything. He was refusing to provide evidence and the executive Lorna has genie was complying with everything and the guy accusing her wasn't complying of anything. So it was just odd. Then we find out that he was consulting ask a lawyer on call.com about what to do if he was raped, sexually assaulted and forced to do drugs by his former boss at Morgan Stanley. Now, he worked at Morgan Stanley before JP Morgan. So while consulting this chatbot lawyer chatbot thing, he switched the company name and the sex of the boss that was allegedly assaulting him. So, so now that everyone has caught up, that is the Spark notes. Here's what the Wall Street Journal reported yesterday, and that is that the largest bank offered $1 million to settle with this guy, but he rejected it and asked for more money. So the Wall Street Journal reached out to JP Morgan Chase for a statement and to confirm. And this is what they had to say. Quote, while we cannot comment on confidential discussions, we did try to reach an agreement to avoid the time and expense of litigation and to support an employee who is being threatened with the very reputational harm now unfolding. We continue to believe these allegations have no merit and new information raised as a result of the public filing only reinforces that conclusion. So they are standing by her. J.P. morgan is doubling down. This tells me they did not attempt to settle with this guy because they think that something happened. They did not try to settle with him because they think anything that he said was true. But JP Morgan is standing by their internal investigation. They found no wrongdoing, he was not complying, and they were willing to pay this former employee $1 million to, to protect Lorna's reputation, to prevent all of this from coming out in the press because the damage that this does to him is self inflicted. The damage that this does to her is cruel and unnecessary. And I said this on Monday, I feel very badly for this woman because now her name is synonymous with the allegations of heinous sex crimes and racism. Despite no evidence of any of that hero. Her name will always be attached to this story completely against her will. That is this guy's fault. And it is a shame because she has been working her way up in the company. She has made a name for herself based on her experience as an employee, her work, and now she has to be ashamed of that because lies went viral. You can't undo the this kind of reputational damage. His name and face being everywhere. You know, he made his bed and now he's lying in it. He could have been $1 million richer and he could have crawled into a hole somewhere and nobody would know how vile he was. Nobody would know his name, Nobody would know his face. He could just literally have a million dollars in his pocket and walk away. He didn't want a million dollars. He wanted 20. So now her name and face is everywhere, and people think that she's some unprofessional, racist dominatrix. And none of her actions that we know of at this point warrant any of the memes or negative attention that she's getting. So the New York Post found that according to their sources, this was. This was a little negotiation going on between Rana and JP Morgan. And Rana essentially threatened JP Morgan and said, Give me $20 million or I will go public. And that's when they countered with the 1 million. And clearly, $1 million wasn't enough for him to stay quiet. And here we are again. He wanted to go through this complaint anonymously, which is why he went as John Doe. But look how that turned out. So again, he could have just taken $1 million and walked away.

[Haley Cardia]

Do you think it's delusion that he didn't? Because what do you get out of this? Like, if you're lying, the truth is definitely come.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

You get money. That's what he thought he was going to get.

[Haley Cardia]

Correct. So take the money that you get offered. Like, you're not going to hold out and litigate this lie. You're only going to get exposed.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Right? But I think he thought, I, I don't have to litigate this. I can still negotiate. With the threat of going public, I could get more than a million dollars. And JP Morgan basically said, f off. I mean, a million dollars is a lot of money to win after.

[Haley Cardia]

You're lying 100% to me, you take the money, you bounce off, Take the

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

money and shut up.

[Haley Cardia]

Even if.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Even if he got $1 for lying, it's like, that's better than this. Alternative. Now, he's never gonna work again. He should have taken that million dollars.

[Haley Cardia]

That's what I'm saying to me. You take the million, you go home. And of course he's a scammer. He's gonna go try this somewhere else and get caught somewhere else.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

It's crazy to ask for $20 million and it's crazy to not take a million. Anyway, more information is now coming out about this guy and his mental state. And again, he. He welcomed all of this in. He. He went to the media. He made this public. Now watch journalists go through everything and stalk your ass and, and expose everything like he asked for this. And I think we are going to find out more information about the kind of employee that. That he was. This was my thought on Monday, and it's coming true. I said, I think people at JP Morgan weren't helping him move internally or giving him good references because maybe he wasn't a star employee. And now it is coming out that while working at JP Morgan, he claimed that his dad was dead, but his dad is very much not dead. That's insane. That's insane. So this is the New York Post headline. Ex JP Morgan banker. I don't know how to say his name. Pretended his dad was dead to get bereavement leave. But he's alive and spoke to the Post this weekend. Darn it. This is just really not working out for the scammer guy. The ex JP Morgan Chase banker who accused a glamorous female colleague of forcing him to become her sex slave. Lied to the bank about his father dying so that he could collect nearly three months of paid leave. This guy's a fricking loser. He's a fricking loser. Three months paid leave.

[Haley Cardia]

That's so much Fortnite.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

And they're basically saying that he took this three months to plan this, to concoct this sex slave story. He's writing his fan fiction on his paid leave.

[Haley Cardia]

It has to be, like, false confidence. I don't know what the scientific term for that is, but that's got. He got away with something small and now he's moving it to the bigger, bigger league.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Agreed. But he didn't even. At this point, he didn't get away with anything. He just. Oh, you're saying he got away with lying about his dad and then.

[Haley Cardia]

Correct.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is also easily debunked.

[Haley Cardia]

Also, don't lie about your father dying just for, like, karma.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Yeah, that's. It's just total bad juju for sure. But yeah. So he told his employer, hey, I need to take time off of work to be with my family. And then he strung together, according to these sources and to the New York Post, he strung together various forms of paid leave in addition to the five days of bereavement. So apparently, you get five days to grieve the loss of your father. Um, and then he was adding on other issues so that he could get three months. But, yeah, the New York Post was like, well, let me look into this. Let me look into this. Found out that his dad is very much alive and well. The Post reached out to him on Sunday, and apparently his family is pretty wealthy. They have a $1.75 million home in Virginia. They got in touch with his dad. The dad said he knew nothing about this lawsuit. So not only is this guy a complete piece of shit if this is true, but my theory of him being a bad employee is certainly starting to gain some traction here. And not only is he a bad employee, he's a bad dude. He's a bad hombre. And if you are lying to take extended leaves of absence from work, something is going on internally. Something is going on mentally. You don't need three months off from work. You don't. You. You never need. I mean, would it be nice? Sure. But you don't need three months is wild. And to lie, of course, the. The morality aspect of lying about your dad dying is beyond disturbing and wrong. So whatever is happening to him now is clearly bad karma that he deserves. So the New York Post got in touch with the dad. Of course, the dad said this quote, I don't know anything about it. He didn't talk with us or anything. He. He's my son. He's a good guy. Calling BS on that. Of course parents have to say, this is my son. He's a good guy. This is like, anytime there's a. There's a terrorist or a shooter, and then they ask the neighbors, like, he was just a. A nice boy, and we never thought he would, like, shoot up the whole school and blah, blah, blah. It's like, well, you thought wrong. So parents, you know, they. They. They say nice things about their kids, but not everyone is a good person. And this guy, in my opinion, bad hombre. So he filed this complaint anonymously. And I talked about this on Monday, which I thought was odd, because he said he didn't want to get negative attention on his family. Like, he didn't want attacks to come on his family. And I thought, if you're a real victim, you don't have to worry about people attacking your family. But now it's all making sense because he was completely lying. So that's why he wanted to do. He wanted to go the John Doe route and win $1 million and then never have to tell his parents. 20 million. Anyway. So this is just. He's a. He's a big old liar. So after this, the complaint was thrown out. He filed a new one. He filed a new complaint.

[Haley Cardia]

We are so back.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

And this happened on Monday. So we. We talked about this all on Monday about this complaint. Complaint was thrown out. Then on Monday, he filed a new complaint. And this time he had anonymous friends of his saying that they witnessed abuse at the hands of Hojdini. So he didn't really come with any evidence to the JP Morgan internal investigation, but now he's saying that he has evidence in the form of anonymous, like, witnesses. So here's the headline. The New York Post is really on this thing.

[Guest or Caller]

He.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

They are on this like white on rice. Ex JP Morgan banker Rana files new wild claims against exact including lurid threesome investigation. I'm sorry, invitation days after going viral with fabricated sex claims. So this anonymous source said that they witnessed Hojdini proposition Rana for a threesome. This is just wild to me. So I'm going to read this quote in Rana's new filing. One alleged witness, who appears to be a family friend of Rana's, said says that he was staying at an apartment while visiting New York City and was woken up by Hodini's drunken antics. In the middle of the night, he attempted to go back to sleep, but a completely naked hijini woke him up. Again. This is like his fantasy. Like, he's hoping that this happens, but it didn't. But this is weird to me. Like, this doesn't really make sense because this family friend said that he was staying at an apartment. Was it ran his apartment? Was it a separate apartment that they were all at? And if. Because I'm just trying to think this through.

[Haley Cardia]

Hey, man, I'm being harassed at work. Do you mind if I invite her over and you can, like, be a witness real quick? Just be careful. She's crazy, right?

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Like, and then it's like she shows up naked. And the anonymous source is like, oh, my God, you're so right, bro. She's nuts. Like, this is also a JP Morgan executive. Something tells me that even if she had too much to drink, you're showing up at your co worker's house naked or you're being invited in and then you get naked and then isn't this guy married?

[Haley Cardia]

Yes. You're forgetting about his fish head wife.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

This is Asian fish head wife. What does she have to say about this? This naked woman showing up at your apartment in the middle of the night. And then you have a friend staying over. Like, what, do you have an extra bedroom? This is New York City. I don't think he has an extra bedroom. He's probably staying on the couch. So you. He's got a friend in town staying on the couch, wife is in the bedroom, naked boss comes like, I'm just trying to piece all this together, and none of this is making sense. So this anonymous source says that Hejdini sat on the couch again, naked, lit a cigarette, and began begging him, the anonymous source, to join them in the bedroom. And then who's them? Her. The wife is in the room with the husband. Or the husband, maybe this is a separate apartment that he's, you know, using to cheat on the wife. I don't know, but I'm assuming that he's in bed with his wife, friend is on the couch. Now naked boss is on the couch. And now she's like, we should all just get together. And of course, the anonymous source says that the JP Morgan banker employee accuser is, you know, denying everything the whole time. Like, no, no, no, I'm not doing this. Like, no, he is, in fact, the

[Haley Cardia]

hero of the story.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Yes, of course he's the hero. So then my thought is, I don't. I don't. I'm not understanding whose apartment they are at, but clearly the woman got in. Again, this is all just based on his claim. Like, I don't think that any of this happened, but let's just say for the sake of conversation, they are in an apartment. Maybe Rana's there without his wife, and maybe, like, she has to get into the apartment somehow. So did she. Did she break in?

[Haley Cardia]

Somebody in the chat said maybe she. Spider man scaled the wall.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

I was gonna say. I mean, he. He paints her to be this, like, crazy stalker, so you never know. But it's like, did she have a key to his apartment? Or clearly she was let in. And if you. If you know that this woman is trying to have sex with you so badly and you don't want to, and you're married, and this is like, don't open the door. Just leave her out there. I don't know. Like, there are so many ways for this to not get to the point that it's at. Then it says, quote, another anonymous affirmation, seemingly from the owner of the apartment where the family friend was staying. Oh, so the family friend was staying in a different apartment in New York City, not the banker's apartment.

[Haley Cardia]

Correct.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Okay, so banker and wife. Wife is out of the picture. Wife is at home. Banker's friend was staying at a different apartment. Ronna was also there, and then they invited the naked boss over.

[Haley Cardia]

Yikes.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

So, clearly, if that's the case, then Ron is in communication with the boss, and they're like, we're here. Come through. Because how else would she know where he was at? So, again, none of this makes sense. I'm just. I'm trying to work all this through in my brain because the math isn't mathing. And, you know, we're coming to the conclusion that none of this is real. Anyway, the owner of the apartment that the friend was staying at in this, you know, late night threesome invitation happened at. Allegedly, the owner of that apartment claims he saw has Genie kissing Ronna's neck on the street sometime during the summer of 2024. So if this is true and they were having a relationship, maybe they were using this friend's apartment.

[Haley Cardia]

This is like the worst Netflix show your friend has tried to get you to watch.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Yeah, they're like, just. The season one is. Is bad, but, like, you just got to get to season two, and then season two is kind of slow. But then if you just get to season six, it's like it all starts

[Haley Cardia]

and they switch writers halfway through. So the story just doesn't make any sense.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

People died off. But, you know, like, don't worry. Just get through it. Yeah. So then this landlord says that In September of 2024, the. The. The landlord overheard them entering the apartment building, and Hejdini said something like, I own you, Brownie. No one talks like this. There is just absolutely no way. Like, the. The racial terms that he claims she's using are so endearing that there's no way that she's racist.

[Haley Cardia]

This guy is like, they're, like, so cute.

[Marco Rubio]

They're like.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

They're like racist pet names.

[Haley Cardia]

My little brown boy, he needs mental treatment.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

My little Brownie. Yeah. So anyway, another anonymous friend said that they witnessed Hijini kissing his neck also in the middle. And we. We know from his original complaint that he claims that she would spit on his. I'm sorry, spit on her hand and then slap his neck or something. So there's a lot of next stuff happening here. I don't know. Again, this is all his, like, sexual fantasies in the form of a legal complaint. But there is a chance that he's telling the truth, by the way, and there's just no evidence of it. Like, there is probably a 1% chance that that is real, that all of this happened and there's just no evidence.

[Haley Cardia]

If it's true, we will personally write this man an apology letter.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Sure. If this is true, I will absolutely. I will say I was wrong. I can always admit when I'm wrong. But, you know, and all of this is alleged. Like, we are just. We are just calling this as it is. That something's fishy here. And this brings me to the latest update from the New York Post on this story. And that is that the ex JP Morgan banker was referred for mental treatment after this probe into sex claims, sex slave claims. Found nothing. So it's really not as it sounds, though. Like, I clicked on that headline and I thought, oh, okay, so he's a total nutjob, but not really. So, well, yes, but not for this reason. So ex JP Morgan banker Rana was referred to mental treatment after probe because he was referred for mental health treatment by the prosecutors. And Rana claims that the mental health referral was under the DA's office and it was their victim support service. So maybe this is. You come forward with a sex abuse claim and they say, okay, go get mental health treatment because you went through this. I think they were referring him to this mental health professional because they thought that he might have been a victim. Not that he was totally making it up, which is what I thought when I read the headline. But it seems like he saw a counselor with the Survivor Services Bureau of the New York County District Attorney's office.

[Haley Cardia]

We need. We're going to go ahead and put a poll in the chat real quick. Is this guy telling the truth or not? Simple yes or no. Let's run this poll up. We need to see what the people are saying.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Is he telling the truth? Yes or no? Poll start anywhere in this filing. This guy said that he initially sought mental health care from a psychotherapist before the DA's referral. So he had already been seeking out mental health treatment. And they say that it's because he has ptsd. Okay. Everyone in the chat agrees. No, no, no, no, no. Fuck. No, no, no, no. Hell no. No, no, no, no, no, no. He's full of shit. No, no. So it's a unanimous. This guy's a nut job. And I agree. But he was claiming that he heard her voice in his head and he would have recurring nightmares about this. I think if you have recurring nightmares about something that is consistent with ptsd. But I think hearing her voice in his head, that is bordering on something else. And I'm not an expert, so I won't be diagnosing him, but I do hope that he gets the mental health treatment that he needs because something is off. And speaking of mental health, I want to talk about Ella Emhoff. This is Kamala Harris's stepdaughter. She is waking up to the dangers of being on ssris and she posted this video back in December, but it is going viral and gaining some attention now. So take a listen.

[Ella Emhoff]

I'm just sitting here crocheting, waiting for a friend. And I was just listening to this podcast that the Wall Street Journal put out about SSRIs and anti anxiety meds and kind of the over prescription of them in America. And it was making me think a lot because I've been on SSRIs for over a decade, almost 15 years probably. And they were calling out the lack of research on long term use of these things. They were calling out the lack of information that doctors give about coming off of these meds and kind of the psychological effects they can have. And it really got me thinking how little I've thought about that, naively, obviously. But I've noticed that every time I've gone off of it for a week or missed it or for whatever reason, like it has been really hard for me and I've had a really hard time. I feel like so many of us are on these meds and this is like actually happening. Like people get off of them and they kind of break down and it could be really bad. So yeah, I guess I just want your general thoughts.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Okay, well, my general thoughts are, yes, you should definitely look into the drugs that you're taking and the side effects and you know what's going to happen when you come off of them. And yes, we should be thinking about this. Remember when the left absolutely freaked out when the Trump administration said, hey, pregnant women shouldn't take Tylenol and then they started downing bottles of Tylenol to like own the right. This is the sort of thing where, you know, you have a drug that's FDA approved and then it's on the market for a long time and then you realize that there are side effects that come out and it's like, just because something is FDA approved doesn't mean that it's good for you. It doesn't mean that it's not going to come out later, that this might have negative side effects just. Just because Something is. Just because they say it's okay doesn't mean that it is. And just because it's okay for someone else doesn't mean it's going to be okay for you. So I actually give Ella credit for one listening to a Wall Street Journal podcast. Also, I give her credit for being open to learning about the drugs she is on and being open to changing her mind when introduced to new information despite being on the drugs herself. Because I think a lot of times people can get defensive when a medication is working for them. It's like hard to admit when you're wrong about something because if it's personally working for you, it's like, no, you're wrong. If you hear something negative about it, it's like, no, that's not true. And just because it's not true for you doesn't mean it's not true for other people. And even then, like she was admitting that. I've tried to come off of this before and it's been a negative experience. And I thought that it was refreshing to hear her candidly talk about those experiences with withdrawal because it is something that people should talk about more. We should be questioning doctors. We should be questioning why they're prescribing benzos and SSRIs for people seemingly at the drop of a hat. And she even said it. I. I feel like we're all on these drugs. And when she says we are all on, she means like her followers, which they probably are. And I wanted to read some of the comments because it was eye opening for sure. And someone who goes by that functional nurse said, thank you for sharing about this. Lexapro completely changed my brain in a very negative way and I've been desperately trying to come off for three years now. I'm still not all the way off and I was only on 10 milligrams. Then Stephanie said, I'm really happy I weaned myself off of my ssri. It helped me for the time that I needed it. I but it was so hard to withdraw and the withdrawal was worse than my depression. That's a, that's something that people should be talking about. Someone else said, thank you for bringing this up. I am 79 and I have been on SSRIS for almost 30 years. Anytime I tried to go off, it was a nightmare. Not enough study has been done and doctors are very little help when you try to get off. I encourage you to keep asking questions about long term use. At my age, I have chosen to just stay on them. If I were younger I think I'd be questioning again. These things have been on the market for so long. There are people who've been on them for decades. Even Ella Emhoff is young, and she said she's been on it for 10 years. And we just don't know what that means. Like, every drug that you take, you are experimenting. That's what this is. So someone else said, I just assume I'll be on them for the rest of my life. A diabetic doesn't worry about what will happen when they go off insulin. They have no choice but to go on it. But that's how I feel about my meds. I can't live without them. And that's the crazy part, is people are on these drugs and they know that they're going to be on them for the rest of their lives. And I think people are less willing to look for a natural, like a natural response or a natural, like homeopathic treatment because it's just easier to take a medication. But just because you take a medication doesn't mean that you're cured of this problem. You still have the problem. It's putting a band aid on it. And that's why the withdrawal is even worse, because you're. You already have this underlying issue, and in this case, it's a mental health issue. And then you feel like you're better because you're taking this drug. You come off and it's even worse because you, you never had to come up with the, the coping mechanisms on your own. You've never had to actually deal with the deep rooted issues. You. You're just putting a band aid on it, and now it's. Now it's worse. And then someone said this, which I thought was interesting. Ella, please look into PSSD from ssris. And that's post SSRI sexual dysfunction. And it turns out that the longer you're on SSRIs, it can make you sort of disinterested in sex, it can make you sort of asexual. It can have other impacts on, you know, your sexual function. And it got me thinking of how many transgenders are probably on SSRIs, and I wonder if they were put on SSRIs and then they became transgender because obviously it's a mental illness. And I wonder if because of them being on SSRIs, they think that they're asexual and they think that there must be something else wrong with them, not that it's a side effect of the SSRI because they've convinced themselves they need to be on these drugs so it's never the drug's fault and they feel like oh well, I'm not attracted to this person or I'm not attracted to my partner anymore, I must be gay or I must be trans or I must be in the wrong body. I wonder how much that is having to do with it. And we'll probably never know or if we do find out, it'll probably be like 10, 15, 20 years from now because there's not enough of a pool of people to research on it. But I, I definitely think that there's a link. Someone else said weaning off of mine now to try a different med because I finally got an accurate diagnosis and it was never anxiety or depression, it was Audi hd which is like ADHD and autism, which is crazy that like medical professionals will put people so quickly on Lexapro or an ssri. And it's not even. They don't even take the time to accurately diagnose these people. They just give this stuff out like candy. It's really bad. And then someone who's a therapist commented and said they should be a last resort and used to be. Now they are a first course of treatment. They dull the symptoms but they don't cure them and you become dependent. We're putting kids on them at the first sign of trouble or discomfort when their brains and bodies aren't finished developing instead of using a non pharmaceutical treatment. Yes, some people really need them, but nowhere close to the amount of people who use them. SSRIs are some of the most quietly dangerous. It takes months to draw from them, not a couple weeks. And they chemically imbalance your serotonin and dopamine, dopamine, etc, your body has to relearn how to balance and make that and it takes a long time to balance out. And then of course there are people in Ella Emhoff's comment section that are crazy leftists that are probably on SSRIs and you know, they can't be confronted with new information. And they said that this is mainly a right wing narrative. They are blaming it on the right of course, because it's always us. And someone said this is absolute. Someone replied to that comment saying it's absolutely a nonpartisan issue. I'm a Democrat and I can't believe the amount of people on the left who don't support further research in this space. It's counterintuitive to me and disconcerting that so many Dems shut down conversations around health care gaps for people who want to come off medication. And that's interesting too, that the left is like obsessed with putting people on these drugs. And then if you want to get off of them, it's like, that's a bad thing. That's how we, we see that with detransitioners too, where people transition. And then when they say, oh, I actually this is, this was wrong for me, the left attacks them because it's like, no, no, no, you were right to get on this drug. You were right to do this surgery. It's never the opposite way around. It's never, they never welcome the natural path.

[Haley Cardia]

Well, and I think drawing back on yesterday, that's why the Maha movement's such a bigger deal than I think people are making it. Bringing back physical fitness and non hormonal foods. Like you're already not upsetting your, your chemical balance by, you know, trying to be a little bit healthier. And then that's, you know, one small thing builds on another so you can kind of naturally adjust.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Yeah. And I think the food that we eat makes us sick, and then that causes issues and then everything. It's just this vicious cycle of being on drugs that don't fix problems, they just create more problems. Which brings me to Ozempic. And you all know how I feel about Ozempic because these drugs have been marketed as, as safe and effective. Where have we heard that before? And I think people need to question Big Pharma before they become Big Pharma. Experiments for life And Ozempic, every week I feel like there's a new headline and this is a new one. What is Ozempic personality and why does it make life feel. Feel me? Doctors and patients across social media are reporting a kind of emotional flattening while on GLP1 drugs. Which is interesting because we just got finished talking about how this happens on ssris and it seems like this is having a similar effect. And this is what it says, quote. Doctors say they become hearing similar accounts of a kind of emotional flattening, a dulled response not just to food, but to other sources of joy, such as reading, listening to music, dancing, gardening, even sexual. Some users also blamed the medications for falling out of love. Online, the phenomenon has taken on a new name, anhedonia, and more colloquially, Ozempic personality. And there is for now, more observation than explanation, which I thought was a good line because that's always how it goes. You wait and see, you put people on drugs and then you wait and see what happens. And essentially every drug that you go on, you're just a Guinea pig. Because even if they market it as safe and effective again, it never is. So the FDA approves something, they push it out to the masses, everybody gets hooked on it. And then it's like, oops, your stomach might be paralyzed. Or like, oops, you might be diagnosed with pancreatitis or bowel obstruction or gallstones or kidney failure or vision changes or nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, headaches, fatigue, dizziness, injection site itching, et cetera. And they sell it to you as this one stop shop for weight loss. And then it's like, don't worry about the whole bunch of side effects that, you know, you don't get from eating less and working out, but this is the easy way out. So people take it. And then this disinterest in food starts to creep into other areas of life, which is pretty terrifying. And if this drug is making people feel meh, then I wonder if they'll go to a psychiatrist and get put on another drug to fix that. This is how it all starts. It's like, I'm on Ozempic. I feel meh, like, life is. There's no color in my life. I'm not getting any happiness. I. My dopamine levels are depleted. Let me go get on SSRIs that also deplete my dopamine, but they'll make me feel like they are better and back to normal. But it's all artificial. So I wonder if, you know, similarly to SSRIs, if people on Ozempic are having a disinterest in sex, if they'll take something for that too. That's another drug. Like, every drug leads to another drug that you could possibly take, and it's going to lead them down another big pharma path. It's a trap. There's a new headline each week. Do not sign up to be an experiment. And I, again, I have spent the last. And I've never been on a lot of drugs, really. Like, I've never taken a lot of prescriptions by any means. But I, you know, I struggle with acne. And people tell me all the time, oh, just go on Accutane. And I'm like, no, I am not going on Accutane. I'm not doing it. I'd rather have zits for the rest of my life than go on Accutane. I. And people, you know, dermatologists put me on a ton of rounds of antibiotics for my acne. I was on minocycline, doxycycline. These are targeted towards people who have Acne. And the doctor said to me, like, you can't be on these forever, but, like, it might help. And if you know anything about antibiotics, they completely kill your gut bacteria and your gut health. They're horrible. And then you become immune, essentially, to taking antibiotics. How is that good? So again, it's like, yeah, we can fix your acne with this pill, which never worked. It never fixed it. But it's like, take this pill. And then it could cause other issues. And a lot of acne is because of gut issues. So it's like the drugs that they put me on are actually making the issue worse. And then they put me on birth control. How did that fuck my hormones? Probably really badly. So I've spent the last, like, two years of my life getting off every drug ever. Like, I don't. I do not take any prescription drugs. If I have to take Advil, I will, but I'd rather suffer through pain than take Advil. And I really. There's nothing. There's nothing that I take now except for vitamins and supplements. But I just think, like, I'm not a lunatic. I think if you're sick, you know, take medicine if you need it. Certainly we are lucky to have modern medicine. It's 2026. I'm obviously not talking about serious diseases. Like, if you need medicine, take it. But if you don't need medicine, don't. If you don't need medicine, there's probably a natural fix for it. And try that. Let's get into this hantavirus update. Andrew loves this story because he thinks we're cooked.

[Haley Cardia]

I had a change of heart today. I spoke with the boss man. He. He referred me to some of his old podcast episodes. And now. Now I'm. I'm out. I think we're gonna be all right.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Okay, okay. We're coming around. We're not cooked anymore. So this hantavirus cruise ship, you know how I feel about it. I think, unfortunately, to remedy this problem, you just have to sink the ship. Sorry. And that was my take originally, and that's still my take. But anyway, the hantavirus cruise ship, it's not as contained as we'd like it to be. They took these people off the ship. The ship is headed to Spain again. No more updates in the death department. There have been three deaths so far. So far. But the suspected cases number is rising. And of course, this is like the one strain of hantavirus that spreads human to human. This is the Andes disease. Andes virus that they're calling it. So there are Eight cases. Now, two or two to five of those eight cases are suspected to be this human to human transmission, which again is very rare. But of course it's happening. One patient still in critical condition in the ICU in South Africa. And the initial response was to quarantine everyone. And I mean, what better place to quarantine? Like, you're already quarantined on a cruise ship in the middle of nowhere. So why not just stay there? But for whatever reason, you know, because whoever makes these decisions, they don't watch my show. They decided to not stay put and not keep the sick people on the quarantined ship. They decided to let the sick people off of the ship. So that's smart. And despite experts, like, I saw a video today on my TikTok page from an epidemiologist and she says no one has to worry about this. Like, this is completely fear mongering. We don't need to panic. This is really not anything to be worried about. It's very hard to spread it from human to human, but clearly it is spreading from human to human.

[Haley Cardia]

The WHO did a, a press conference earlier this morning.

[Scott Vincent Borba]

Yeah.

[Haley Cardia]

And they were pretty calm about it and they're calm about nothing. So that's also a lot to, you know, that feels good.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

I, I mean, I'm not panicked by any means. Covid completely changed my mind on literally everything. Anything that they tell me, I just don't believe it.

[Haley Cardia]

So I think that's scarier than a major virus is the lack of the public.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Yes. The fact that they have completely eroded public trust. That's a problem because the next time there is a pandemic that's actually going to be bad. No one's going to give one shit what the CDC and the, and the WHO says, like, absolutely no one is going to care. And I would say we are actually not far enough away from COVID for people to care. I think people have such bad Covid fatigue, myself included, that it's, you know, people in high school that missed out on their graduations. Now it's five years later. It's like they're going to miss their college graduations because of, like, people are not going to. If they thought that people were compliant during COVID just wait until you try to spring a hantavirus thing on them. Nobody's going to do it. No one's going to mask up. Nobody is going to contact trace. No, nobody's going to stay home to save lives. Like effort. I think people's, you know, reaction now after Covid would be I'll just die. I'm going to get right with God. So I don't care. I don't fear death by any means. If I die tomorrow, I'm good, I'm right, I'm straight. So I don't care. But that's my take. Like I'm just going to live my life and if I die, I die. I don't care.

[Haley Cardia]

It's a. It's a. I think the biggest part of the story is that they are or were stuck on a cruise ship. And there have been so many crazy cruise ship stories like we've talked about that people getting stuck on them and getting sick and don't go on cruises.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

I feel like during COVID there was like the COVID thing started with the cruise ship and it was like, oh, this, this whole ship has Covid now. But what else, what else happened on it?

[Haley Cardia]

There was like the cruise ship that got like neurovirus or something like that. And then.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Yeah, but that's like the stomach flu.

[Haley Cardia]

Yeah, but it like broke all the toilets on the boat. Fun fact.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

I did not know that.

[Haley Cardia]

Yeah, I'm just.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

I'm horrible.

[Haley Cardia]

I'm anti cruise, I guess.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Oh, I'm anti cruise. I would never go on one. I said this yesterday, whenever we covered it. I would absolutely never go on a cruise. You could not pay me. You could not pay me. Yeah. All right, let's talk about this. Let's. Let's move on from the hantavirus because we don't care. And let's go to this Elf cosmetics founder becoming a priest. So watch this.

[Scott Vincent Borba]

I have been in the health and beauty industry for close over 20 years.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Yeah.

[Scott Vincent Borba]

I have developed everything underneath the sun. I think you have with our Lord's help. And I have. God has blessed me with everything. I remember I was driving over to Los Angeles, you know, leaving from. From Santa Clara, and I was like, okay. I rolled in my window and I asked our Lord, I said, would or ask God, would you please allow me to do all these different things? I want to do all these dreams? And he said, absolutely, yes in my heart.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

And you did it.

[Scott Vincent Borba]

He not only blessed me, but blessed me with money and awareness and just every business I had, he allowed me to have successful with it. Then I decided, you know, what is wrong with me? I was vapid. I had a perverse life. I went to la. I got sucked into the Hollywood lifestyle. It was almost to a point where I was trying to sell my soul for all of the world. The riches of the World, which is not where we're supposed to be. We're supposed to be living for heaven. We're supposed to be living for our Lord and Lady. And I was living for myself. I was, I myself. I was idolizing everything else out there. That was luxury. I was a poster boy for luxury.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Right, Right.

[Scott Vincent Borba]

So now our Lord probably sent me in my lifetime a thousand different people to tell me, have you, have you thought about becoming a priest? I mean, ever since I've been, like, I can remember, my mom, my sister have been praying for me all this time, I didn't even know this. And so I finally accepted the call about maybe three years ago, and my conversion, I pray my mom and my sister, my family helped pray for my conversion. And not only did I accept the call, but everything that God gave me, all my money, all of my. Everything I had, including the current company, I have, I have given it all away to help.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

So he made a fortune and gave all of the money away, donated it and said, I'm going to give my life to God, essentially. And that interview was seven years ago. And now Elf Cosmetics co founder Scott Vincent Borba is becoming a Catholic priest. His ordination is scheduled for May 23, 2026. And this is in the Dio Diocese of Fresno, California. How cool is this story? I think this is awesome.

[Haley Cardia]

I feel like you don't see it happen with, like, major corp. Like, I mean, Elf is a very known.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

It's brand huge, a huge company and a lot of people. And I feel like he said this, you know, in that interview where. And again, that interview was seven years ago, but he realized I made all this money, but God gave that to me. I had all the success, but God gave that to me. And he was in la, he was in Hollywood, and he said I was getting just roped into the wrong groups of people. And the. And I think his faith that seemed, you know, kind of like in the background but consistent was strong enough for him to know, okay, I'm going down the wrong path, I should go down the right one. And I. I give him a lot of credit for making a lot of money and seeing a lot of success and almost being okay with giving it away, knowing that, like, it was never mine, it was God's. I think that's very cool. Very, very cool. And speaking of religious leaders, according to Pastor Perry Stone, a large number of pastors were invited to meet with individuals from the US Government to prepare them for UFO disclosure. Here's what he had to say.

[Guest or Caller]

He said, perry, what you. What they're about to release. From what we're hearing, there's going to be a release concerning aliens and concerning unidentified flying object spacecraft that some of the people who were in the meeting were telling us as pastors, you need to prepare your people and you need to get ready to answer them for what you're about to hear being released. And some of it has to do with crafts that have been discovered that are not allegedly a part of our planet and the materials they're made of are not a part of our planet. Very strange reptilian looking creatures and other things that almost sound like something out of a sci fi movie are. Or an Orson Welles book.

[Haley Cardia]

He didn't have to choose that background. That was a bit much. That was a choice.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Listen, I believe that there are paranormal forces, there are evil forces and I believe that there are, I don't even know, like beings. I think there are beings that exist that we don't see and I think that they are angels and demons. And I think that whatever, whenever people think that they are abducted or something, like it's an evil force. I don't think that. Do you believe that there are good aliens?

[Haley Cardia]

I am a biblical true. Like it's not mentioned in the Bible.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

So I just think it's. Whatever it is, it's evil.

[Haley Cardia]

I have no clue.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

So you don't believe in aliens at all?

[Haley Cardia]

I, I don't think so.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Okay.

[Haley Cardia]

I'm a no alien guy.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

I believe in like, I don't, I mean alien. Like what is that? You know, little green men. Like I don't know if that's what they look like or anything like that. I don't know if that's what it is. But I think people see things that

[Haley Cardia]

they don't understand 100% and I think it's more like spiritual warfare esque than it is.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

I agree.

[Haley Cardia]

Which is almost scarier to me than aliens.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

I agree. Because I think that that's what it boils down to. Like this is good versus evil. And this video was fishy to me because he claims that there's this group of pastors that was invited by a group of people in the United States government and they were basically like, you know, we're gonna release this information about UFOs. You need to be prepared because people are going to ask you questions. And it's like to me that's giving reverse psychology where it's like the government is telling these pastors we're going to do this document dump. Here's what you need to. Here's what you need to say, like, here's the role that you need to play next. Like, we're going to release this information now. You need to. Now you need to tell your congregation that this, like, this is how you're going to quell their fears.

[Haley Cardia]

I also feel like we get this type of. There's a big announcement coming, at least in my lifetime. I feel like I've heard it so much before, and it's always such a letdown that I just don't have a lot of faith in there being any content in this one.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

I sort of agree. I feel like people in the military, they've claimed that they've seen crafts, you know, coming out of the ocean and they've seen crafts in the sky that they can't explain, and it's not from our military. And things like that are. They're moving faster than the speed of light, and we don't have anything like that. And I don't think that they're crazy. Like, I think that they're saying things. And I think even in congressional hearings, you know, the Navy, they released footage of these crafts that, you know, it's very grainy and whatever, but they released footage of something moving much faster. And, like, I. I don't have the information to be able to debunk this. Of course I believe that they're telling the truth. But what I find weird about, you know, and this is all alleged. Like, this pastor guy is saying that a friend of his was talked to by the government. Like, I don't need any pastors, priests, religious leaders taking notes from the government like that. You get your truth from the Bible and that's it. So who cares what the government tells you? Like, they should be prepared to answer the questions of whoever comes to them, because they're prepared with biblical truth. That's all you need to answer the questions of the people that come to you. So the authority comes from the Bible. It doesn't come from the government. Like, why would the pastors even take that meeting? You know what I mean?

[Haley Cardia]

Yeah.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

This meeting even happened.

[Haley Cardia]

It'll be interesting to see how it plays out. I mean, time always tells. I know Neil Degrasse Tyson, like, the scientist guy, he said he thought it was going to be a big nothing burger, huh? Yeah. Crazy.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Yeah. And even if there was information, do you think that they would tell us?

[Haley Cardia]

Feels like you've had plenty of time to.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

This goes back to the public trust sort of issue that we have here. It's like, the government. I mean, I don't believe anything that the government says. So then, you know, if they come out and tell me something about UFOs, am I going to believe it? I don't know. Like, I really don't know how I would feel. So tomorrow we're going to start the show and it is going to be scrolling time. We're going to do scrolling time, blind reactions, and I'll answer your questions as I normally do on Fridays, but the entire show is going to be scrolling time. So we will make up for it. It'll be an hour of, of scrolling. But I wanted to end on the video of Marco Rubio from when he took over for Caroline Levitt. And Caroline Levitt had her baby. They welcomed the baby. So congratulations to her. That is wonderful. It is a blessing and I hope that she and baby are doing well. But in her absence, Marco Rubio took the podium and he answered questions from the media and he did a graceful job. He, he was cracking jokes. It was wonderful. But he was asked about, you know, the state of America and should we feel hopeful. And this is what he had to say. You had a deep faith for God and country. At the end of the day, with

[Marco Rubio]

all that you've been involved in. Keep going. You've been extremely busy.

[Scott Vincent Borba]

Go ahead.

[Marco Rubio]

I'm sorry, as we all know, I

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

gotta ask you, what is your hope

[Marco Rubio]

for America at a time such as this? My hope for America. And how do you first deal with that? Yeah, look, I mean, my hope for America is what it's always been. I think it's the hope I hope we all share. We want it to continue to be the place where anyone from anywhere can achieve anything. Where you're not limited by the circumstances of your birth, by the color of your skin, by your ethnicity. But frankly, it's a place where you are able to overcome challenges and achieve your full potential. I think that should be the goal of every country in the world, frankly. But I think in the US we're not perfect. Our history is not one of perfection, but it's still better than anybody else's history. History and ours is a story of perpetual improvement. Each generation has left the next generation of Americans freer, more prosperous, safer. And that is our goal as well. But it is a unique and exceptional country. And as we come upon this 250 year anniversary, I think we have a lot to learn and be proud of in our history. It is one of perpetual and continuous improvement, where each generation has done its part to bring us closer to fulfilling the vision that the founders of this country had upon its founding.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

This is the next President of the United States, ladies and gentlemen. When I saw that, I thought, wow. Not only is he well spoken, which we already knew he's well spoken. He has such a love of country that is admirable. And this is exactly the kind of president that we need. It's like everyone in the room was like, his personality is infectious, in a good way. Everyone was laughing at his jokes. Everyone seemed to respect him. He commanded the room. It was such a breath of fresh air to see. And, you know, I have nothing against Vice President Vance. I think he's wonderful. But Marco Rubio is just. He's so impressive. And I, I really liked him in 2016, even. But then, you know, it just got to a point where President Trump just blew everyone out of the water. And it was like, you know, this is our guy.

[Haley Cardia]

I was on the Rubio train.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

I really, I really liked Rubio and I, I think I told this story on the show before, but I was interning at Fox at the time, and when I was in college and I was planning debate watch parties at Fox. I'm sorry, I was working for Fox, but I was planning debate watch parties on campus. And Fox News had an app at the time where you could watch the debate and then you could. Every time, you know, a person, a candidate answered a question, you could go in and say, like, yes, I like that. I like this person. And it essentially ranked your. Your presidential candidates. And Rubio was at the top of my list. Like, I really was so impressed by him. And my admiration for Marco Rubio keeps growing. I'm just, I'm consistently impressed with him, and I cannot wait to see how this sort of evolves, you know, as the Trump administration goes on. And I don't know what's going to happen with the. There's going to be some kind of awkward power struggle, I would assume, between Vance and Rubio when we get up to 2028. Like, I don't think that. I don't think that Vance could beat Newsom. I don't. I think that Vance, unfortunately, is too tethered to Trump in a way that, that would hurt him almost when up against someone like Newsom. But I think that Rubio, for whatever reason, is sort of removed in a way that people still respect him on the left. Like, I was going through comment sections on TikTok and people were like, I'm a Democrat, but I love this guy. Like, I'm a Democrat, but I could admit he did a really great job. Or I'M a Democrat, but I could admit that that was a really. He answered those questions really tastefully, and I liked him, and blah, blah, blah. I just think that he's more. He would get more people from the middle, I think. And that's what we're going to need in 2028, because we cannot afford to have a Democrat in office. And I. I just have a bad feeling. I don't know who they've got to run other than, you know, Nome, really, but.

[Haley Cardia]

And AOC Really?

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

You think that she would have a shot? I don't think so.

[Haley Cardia]

Oh, I don't know. But her name's been.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

I think that Nome is really the only person on the left that has a shot of becoming the candidate. I think that other people might run. I think that AOC Might run. I think that, you know, Kamala.

[Guest or Caller]

I don't know.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Kamala Harris might run. You know, in all these polls, Kamala Harris is polling even ahead of Newsome, which is insane.

[Haley Cardia]

One can dream.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

One. We could only hope. Could you imagine?

[Haley Cardia]

I can. And it sounds so fun, the content there.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

I would love to see Kamala Harris debate Marco Rubio.

[Haley Cardia]

I love to see her speak at anything.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

He would put her in a body bag. It would be like 911. I'd like to report a murder. Marco Rubio debating Kamala Harris would be just masterful.

[Haley Cardia]

Honestly, she's a grade A yapper. And you got to respect the game, the word salad.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Someone in this, in the chat said, Vance, Rubio ticket. But, yeah, like, I. But I feel like it should be Rubio, Vance. And I don't think that Vance would stay vice president. You know, like, that's what I think. There's going to be a power struggle because, yeah, like, Rubio on the ticket would be great, but it's like, no, I want him to be the president. I don't want him to be the vice president. But I guess you could argue that Vance could have his shot and Marco Rubio could have his. But it's like, this isn't. You know, we're not playing patty cake here. This is politics. It's not like, oh, well, let him have his shot. And then, blah, blah, like, that's. Come on. This is the. We got a country to save. So the.

[Haley Cardia]

The positive side is that we have very strong candidates.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

We do. We really do. I'm impressed with. We have. We've got a deep bench. I always say that. We have a deep bench. We have good candidates. Whereas on the left, I don't know what they've got going on, but DEI higher slop, but it makes it easier for us, certainly. But anyway, I am teasing again tomorrow that I have a full show or I'm going to have a full show of scrolling time. I'm gonna have to scroll like this today to get all my content, but I will do it and we will have an entire hour of scrolling time tomorrow for the most part, which I'm excited about. So I hope you join me. You can follow me on social media at haleycarrenia. I will see you right back here tomorrow.

[Haley Cardia]

Bye.

[Scott Vincent Borba]

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