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There’s a Charlie Kirk Tweet For Everything - Scrolling w/ Hayley (Ep. 337)
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In this episode of Scrolling: Senator Lindsey Graham passes away, and the Democrat Death Cult Rejoices. Inside the internet’s reaction, and a key takeaway from Charlie Kirk.
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Haley
Yesterday was one of those days that gave me real Internet fatigue, influencer fatigue, news and politics fatigue. In the wake of Senator Lindsey Graham's death, I was mostly disheartened by comments that I've seen from politicians, netizens on both sides of the aisle. Then I was pleasantly surprised by some others. But as always, there is a Charlie Kirk tweet for every occasion. So we'll get into that and what we can still learn from him. Plus so much more on today's episode of Scrolling with Haley. But first, I want you to subscribe to the show. I want you to follow the Bungee neuroreport channel. I want you to follow me on social media and I want you to tell a friend about this show. So if you are watching live on Rumble right now, grab the link, copy it, paste it into your family group chat, your friend group chat. Tell a friend about it. I appreciate it and I also want you to support our sponsors, our lovely sponsors. Today I'm telling you about Helix. 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And the death cult essentially kicks into high gear and they start posting death cult slop content online. And the Republicans most recent loss is no different. So Senator Lindsey Graham passed away at age 71 on Saturday night. And this was the statement that his office put out. On the Evening of Saturday, July 11, US Senator Lindsey Graham passed away from a brief and sudden illness. Senator Graham's family appreciates prayers at this time and asks for privacy during this incredibly difficult period. So sudden illness, requesting prayers. This is the, the, the normal thing that gets put out every time someone passes away, right? The, the details, but private. Leave it up to the family. Let them cope, let them grieve. And later on we Learned via the DC's Chief Medical Examiner's preliminary report that the Senator had passed from aortic dissection due to arterios, arteriosclerotic cardiovascular disease. And paramedics responded to his residence after reports of chest pain, a call for chest pain, they administered cpr. He was transferred to the hospital and he later went into cardiac arrest. The death certificate is not final and as the medical examiner office is awaiting toxicology and other tests that we will not know until later. But like clockwork, the Internet reacted and the reaction was eye opening. But there is a Charlie Kirk tweet for everything, isn't there? And it's really bittersweet as the preliminary hearing in Charlie's murder case wrapped up last week. We want justice for Charlie, his wife Erica, for his family, for Turning Point usa, his work family, for everyone that worked there and for everyone who followed him and his viral debate takedowns. And if there was ever a silver lining in the most horrific assassination in modern history, it's that Charlie Kirk's wisdom was well documented. He is physically gone. But all of his fiery debates that we know and love are on social media and we have a trusty search bar at the top of his X profile. And Charlie Kirk's opinion on just about anything is a few clicks away. And this is what Charlie Kirk had to say about how we react when someone passes away away. And he wrote this, I think it was back in 2016. He said, you could tell a lot about a person by how they react when someone dies. And it's true. And this specific post of Charlie's resurfaced quite a bit when he was assassinated. And of course, godless people on the Internet were making a mockery of his death. And the same goes for how you treat a widow. By the way, Erica Kirk has to bear witness to the worst Internet trolls and grifters on the face of the planet. And all I can say is, thank goodness she has strong faith. But what Charlie said in that tweet is true. How people react when someone dies says a lot more about that person's character. And this goes for everyone, by the way, both sides of the political aisle and all the way up the food chain, which I'll get to. But I have been quite disturbed since covering politics in my career seeing how people react to death and destruction. And I'm not going to excuse that behavior. But I think as a society, we've become very desensitized to tragedy and it seems like the go to response is to make a meme or a joke. And I'd be naive to think that there aren't evil forces at work here. I think that's part of it. But I also think it's this numbness that comes with the front row seats that we all have to a very fast paced and depressing news cycle. And I used to be part of this problem. When you work in news, especially in the event of breaking news, tragic breaking news, you have to dissociate from the news to do your job of covering that news. Doesn't matter how gruesome the story is. You put your feelings aside, you put your head down and you work. And people in the medical field, people in law enforcement, the military, you understand this to an even more intense degree. You see sickness, blood, gore, evil, death, and you have to power through. And then you go home and you either unpack those emotions or you don't and they eat you alive later on. And the dissociation from this to do your job is just a necessary evil in the news industry. You can't, you know, wallow when you hear about kids dying in a school shooting. You don't have time. You just have to do the job in front of you. And that doesn't mean that the story isn't sad. It doesn't mean that there isn't real human suffering happening. It's just not your job to stop and think about it. In the news industry. Your job is to just disseminate the facts no matter how disturbing they are and no matter how you personally feel about them. And I had an aha moment pretty early on in my career. So one of the first jobs I had out of college and I interned in local news and stuff. But my first job out of college was at Fox News Channel. And I was working in the advertising and on air promotion department. And part of our job was to promote the coverage on the channel. So we would write scripts and especially in a breaking news situation, we had to promote the ongoing continuing coverage on the network. And I worked weekends. When you work and you're very early on in your career, you get the shit end of the stick schedule. And they put me on a weekend schedule. And it wasn't always like that. We didn't always work weekends. We kind of worked like normal schedule. I mean, we had crazy hours and we were on call 24 7, but we were all getting so burnt out from being on call 247 that we had these on call groups of people that, you know, each night it was like, okay, this person's on call from these hours and then this person picks up in the morning and whatever. So we kind of had to cycle through and everyone had their weekend that they were on call. And after a while they were like, we just. There's so much breaking news happening on the weekends. We just need like a full weekend team. So I was part of that weekend team and my co workers at the time, we just sat around and kind of joked how horrific I think it was over the summer. It was like horrific breaking news story after horrific breaking news story week after week. I think we went on this crazy trend of like five or six weeks of something really horrific. And it was hurricanes, it was destruction, it was death, it was just horrible. And one of those breaking news situations was the Charlottesville rally. This was in 2016. And there was an Ohio man that drove his car through a group of protesters, and about 30 people were injured. But one woman was hit by a car and she died. And I remember part of my job was to get to go through the video footage of it, to go through photos and, you know, not to necessarily use the most gory photos, but we had to put photos and videos together to promote our continuing coverage of this event. So it was my job to just go through Getty Images and scroll and scrub through video. And I'm watching this woman die, like over and over again. I'm clicking through and I'm scrubbing through frame by frame. I'm watching this woman get hit by A car, the last moments of her life. And my coworkers and I looked at each other, and we were like, oh, my gosh. One of my coworkers pointed out, oh, look, her. Her sneaker fell off. And it was that moment. Not that my coworker was a bad person or anything, but I was like, this is this woman's last moments of her life. And we're talking about how her sneaker fell off when she got hit by a car. And it was that moment that I realized I can't let this job get in the way of humanity ever again. And later on in my career, I was confronted with a lot of other tough situations. I had to call an angel family, probably hours after an illegal alien killed their son. And I was asked to ask this family for an interview, which, if you're watching, you're probably thinking that's entirely unethical and insensitive, because it is. But that's what the job requires. So I did it. And I remembered that promise that I made to myself to do my job, but to lead with compassion. And I called this family. I didn't want to do it. Obviously, I don't want to call a grieving family and bother them, but whatever. So I call them and, you know, they're crying to me on the phone, and I'm, like, asking them about their son. And I couldn't help but cry also, because I'm listening to this grieving couple, and it's heart wrenching. And I told them, you know, how deeply sorry I was for their loss, and of course I meant it. I felt so sorry for this family I'd never met. And then we prayed together. And after we prayed together, they said, we want to tell this story. You're reaching out to us. We want to do an interview. We want as many people to see it. We have to tell our son's story. So that's what happened. And not everyone wants to speak out when tragedy strikes their family, but some people want to raise awareness. Some people want to set the record straight, and this couple did. So now when I cover people dying on the show, I always sort of think back to these experiences that I've had in this industry. And I always think about how their family and friends, how they would want to see their loved ones be remembered. Could you imagine your friend or your family member dies, and then you have to go on X and. And strangers who have never met your loved one are talking about how hot they must be in hell or, you know, the family will be grieving on, you know, on some level, for the rest of their lives. But imagine, you know, the first few days and weeks, that's got to be the absolute worst. And maybe they're a little numb to it, but I certainly want to. Wouldn't want to be part of a conversation of this, like, negativity online. And I was taught growing up to not say anything at all if you don't have anything nice to say. I'm sure a lot of us grew up with that same idiom. Right? And I'm not perfect at that. I will say that if you watch this show, you know, I talk a lot of shit, but I certainly think that applies to the deceased. Again, I'm not saying that I'm going to take a page out of the Washington Post's book and honor terrorists as austere religious scholars. And I'm also not going to shed a tear for pedophiles and murderers and the worst of the worst when they die. But Senator Lindsey Graham. I've made jokes about Lindsey Graham before on the show, but I would never stoop to the lows of some of the people I've seen on the Internet after his death. And I am not patting myself on the back, by the way. That is the bare minimum as a human. And if you want to be rude when someone dies, that's your right, but everyone else has the right to judge your character. And yesterday, I simply tweeted, rest in peace, Lindsey Graham. I quote, tweeted Charlie Kirk's post, and. And people had a problem with it. And this is the thing that I've learned since being in the public eye and. And doing the show is people are gonna have a problem with everything, so it doesn't matter. Like, you can't think about making people happy because you're never gonna make people happy. But people were responding to me saying, oh, well, Lindsey Graham hated maga. So, like, he hated you, and he did this or he said that or he supported such and such. I know. I. I'm not saying you have to be sad or shed a tear for the guy, but you can wait 24 hours at least before you say something rude. But the Twitter libs, of course, wasted no time being rude. Liberal Keith Edwards posted this. 31 years in office. 0 sexual assault allegations from women. Rest in peace. King joking about how the unmarried, childless senator was rumored to be gay. And Democrats are funny like that. You know, they love the gays, but only if they vote blue, and they hate kings. Unless they're facetiously using it as a Term of endearment. But the second someone is right wing, they will use the gay community as an insult. And this person, again, jumped on that bandwagon with this Grinder flag. Obviously an AI photo. And it says, flags at the Grinder headquarters have been lowered to half staff gay dating app. And I do find it odd. Obviously, these people are soulless. Like, truly soulless. You have to. To not be able to think of the person that died and their family members. It's just you're making a mockery of someone dying. It's just, even if you don't like the person, like, why, like, you have to sit back and think, is this a good thing to do? And there are so many people that are good in the world, and I want to believe that they are good. And then you go on the Internet and it's like all the good people are gone, and we're left with the rest. And it's horrific. Someone else posted this, that they were, you know, confused but not upset. Saying, expecting Mitch McConnell, but getting Lindsey Graham is like ordering a chocolate chip cookie, but getting snickerdoodle. I'm confused but not upset. Using a cookie analogy to describe one's feelings about Republican senators dying. It's a choice. It's not a choice I would make, but it's a choice. And I have covered this woman on the show for the last week or so. We've been playing videos of this woman who gets on TikTok and her whole thing, her whole hook for her videos is f Donald Trump and she's playing her jazz music or whatever. And yesterday or last week, I said it was funny, right? You know, it's funny how deranged these people are, but it's not, you know, it's almost even more sick and twisted that these people. And I. I've covered this before, this Hope Core stuff where all these tiktokers, they're waiting for Republicans to die. And part of me thought that this woman with the music and the hair blowing and all that stuff was just. I don't know, I. For some reason I thought it was funnier. But I take that back now because this woman truly is waiting for Republican politicians to die. Our president and whoever else. And until they wait for our president to die, they are just thrilled with anything else that they get. Listen to this woman.
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TikTok Woman
Good morning. It's 5am Where I am on the east coast and I bring you some really great news. Lindsay Graham has passed away. That girl is gone. We are manifesting the out of this and they're dropping like flies. So come on, guys, get these names. We're. We're getting close. We're getting close to that, y'.
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Liberal Commentator
All.
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TikTok Woman
We're getting close. Let's go. And good morning. It's time to dance, baby.
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Haley
To say that it's great news that anyone died. Like, I. I feel bad that I've ever played this woman's videos on the show. And I know we were making fun of her, but I'm never gonna play another video of hers ever again. Because I truly, I don't know. Like, it's not that I. I knew that she wasn't kidding, but maybe there was, like a part of me that thought maybe she was because it was so ridiculous. And that, to me, solidified it. Like, they really are sick in the head. Like, they want these people to die. Like, to think that they genuinely care the most about somebody else the same
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Cory Booker
way that we would.
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Haley
Sure, maybe it's a little bit for tick tock, and it's crude and. But it, at the end of the
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TikTok Woman
day, it's a joke.
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Haley
And unfortunately to her, it's not right. And it's so disturbing that she's saying, well, we have to manifest this, right? Well, we got Lindsey Graham, but, you know, she's thinking that this is good news. Great news. She said it was great news. And I can't be a part of spreading this anymore because it's just, it's horrific. And it's not just her. Like, look at all of these liberals reacting to Lindsey Graham dying yesterday. This is what I was scrolling through. This is all I was seeing yesterday. This is why my show is about this today, because I'm so disturbed. Deeply disturbed. Watch. Lindsey Graham died where he lived, in the closet. Not me, though, motherfucker. Stay mad. Bye, Lindsay. Bye, Lindsey Graham. From the closet to the coffin. Real seamless. Real seamless. Also, yeah, Mitch McConnell. So it's Mitch McConnell. Lindsey Graham does happen in threes. Hope Mr. McConnell was about to score a goal. And what is this? Lindsey Graham fucking intercepts? Takes it all the way to the 40 yard line. Touchdown, Lindsey Graham. That's how that feels right now. Obviously, I know how sports work.
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Liberal Commentator
I woke up to see the news that Lindsey Graham has passed from a mysterious illness at the tender age of 71. I mean, he was barely legal, essentially, you know, for a sitting US Congressperson. Also, the biggest question, of course, is when did Lindsey Graham know he was sick? And was it when he was filing paperwork? This is such a disservice to the people of his state. Not that they actually care about the people of their state. They only care about holding onto power. So much so they won't allow any members of their congressional delegation to retire, especially when they're in positions of leadership or just pass, you know, like, unplug the machine style. I mean, it's. It's bewildering. I cannot think of a more miserable life than to work until the day you are found unresponsive and to live your entire life in the closet while trying to push and pass laws to punish and hurt people who choose to live a free and authentic life. Misery. And he deserved the life that he had, and he did. He deserved the life that he had, and he lived the way that he thinks other people should live. Miserably. And so, goodbye.
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TikTok Commenter
Someone commented on TikTok that Lindsey Graham dying was like, the restaurant giving you a free appetizer because the entree was taking too long. And like, yeah, I actually don't give a. That he died. Like, I don't care. I'm waiting for my entree. I'm waiting for my burger. Don't, like, don't put a. Don't put a plate of mozzarella sticks in front of me. Like, I want the burger. I want the meat.
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Haley
Are you all disturbed? Are you all as disturbed as I am? Because these are women that are, I'm assuming, on the left. And again, they are making fun of someone for being gay. Allegedly. We don't know. Just because someone's not married and childless doesn't mean that they're gay. But maybe he was, maybe he wasn't. No one really cared, right? But these people don't know this man. They've never met him. They don't know him from Adam. They don't know his personality. They don't know his family. They know nothing about him. And they're happy that he died just because of his political affiliation. That's why they're happy. It's crazy. And then that one woman is talking about how this is, you know, irresponsible because he was holding on to power. And that's funny considering what the Democrat Party did in the last election. Which brings me to Democrat politician and strategist Chris Jackson, who said this. He posted this on X with a video of Lindsey Graham from a few years ago, July 7, 2024, talking about how he was concerned about Joe Biden's health. And Chris Jackson wrote this. Lindsey Graham spent years questioning Joe Biden's cognitive and physical health, mocking his age and suggesting he might not make it Another four months now, Graham is gone. Joe Biden is still here. Sometimes life delivers the final fact check on issues like these. Joe Biden outliving Lindsey Graham does not invalidate anyone's questioning of Joe Biden's failing health. You can die suddenly. Some conditions can take you very slowly. Everyone ages differently, but everyone dies eventually. And Lindsey Graham had every right to question Joe Biden's failing health, because despite him, Joe Biden still being alive today. That doesn't take away all of the gaffes that we saw, all the falls, all the stumbles, all the bumbles, all of the sleeping, all of the wandering, the lost Roomba impersonations. After he take the stage, he's leaving the stage and he needed a handler to get him. You know, the Secret Service. He's wandering off. No, sir, Mr. President, were going this way. You know, he'd get off the stage and he would shake hands with nobody. He would trail off, he would make up words. He would randomly start yelling incoherent stories about corn pop and Amtrak and Nelson Mandela or whatever else. And if none of that was true, the Democrats wouldn't have propped up Kamala Harris instead. But also, we just have to think about the fact that age and still being alive doesn't mean that you are mentally there. And Lindsey Graham was traveling for his work and negotiating and getting deals done and. And passing bills and all that stuff, right? And Joe Biden was what? Right? Like he is a useless shell. And just because he's still alive doesn't mean he would have made a better president insane. But this next tweet is a parody account, and he is not a real Republican congressman, but he just hopped on the death cult bandwagon and what's this guy's name? Jack Kimball. It's not a real congressman. It says he's a congressman, but he's not. I spoke to my old friend Lindsey Graham this morning, the senior senator from South Carolina. He's still recovering in the hospital. We talked for just shy of 20 minutes about Iran, Ukraine, the unfolding situation in Maine, my visit to the William Henry Harrison Presidential Library, and even a little bit of send history. I told him we want to see him back at work as soon as possible. So he's mocking Scott Jennings tweet from the other day about when he Talked to Mitch McConnell on the phone and people claimed that Scott Jennings was lying. And, you know, his meme became. Or his tweet became a meme. So in the style of Scott Jennings, you know, this grifter said hours after it was reported that Lindsey Graham died, that he was on the phone with him. Absolutely disgusting. Like, truly disturbing. Saying that you talk to a dead man on the phone while his body is still warm is not my kind of humor. And I'm not easily offended. I don't do the cancel culture thing. Like, I'm not into that. I. I like to take jokes. I don't mind dark humor. I don't mind when people push the envelope, but when people are dead for less than 24 hours, really, and a lot of people couldn't help themselves. But to bring up President Trump in their posts about Lindsey Graham, his relationship to. His relationship to Trump, you know, the ups and the downs, really, any excuse to inject President Trump into everything. And this is tds, right? These people are deranged. And this is what Hunter Biden had to say. Okay? When I heard about Senator Graham's death last night, the first thing I thought was not all the things he said and did in service of Donald Trump. I thought of the time before Donald Trump, when he was a brother to Senator John McCain. A time when senators from different parties could fight about politics and still be friends. A time when a conservative Republican from South Carolina could say of my father, if you can't admire Joe Biden as a person, you've got a problem. He's the nicest person I've ever met in politics. As good a man as God ever created. That is the Senator Graham I will remember today. Not because I have forgotten what came after, because in that memory, there is hope. Hope for a country where brothers can fight like hell over policy and still share a meal and a laugh and the loss of the people they love. I will choose to remember the time before Trump because I believe in an America after Trump. And to me, you know, bringing up President Trump is unnecessary. But of course, these people are obsessed. And Hunter Biden is like, remember that time when America wasn't so divided? Let's get back to that. And then he's making digs at Trump and talking about all the division, you know, And I saw people bringing up the President Trump of it all. Like, Trump wasn't nice when Rob Mueller died, and Trump wasn't nice when Rob Reiner died. I voted for the guy three times. I didn't vote because I thought he had really good Twitter and truth social etiquette. Okay? I didn't. And I didn't like that he did that. Listen, Trump went through hell and back with the Russia collusion hoax. He never deserved that. So I can understand his anger. Do I think that he needed to do it in the. In the death Truth Social post?
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Liberal Commentator
No.
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Haley
But then again, I didn't go through hell and back through that. He did. And on this show, I called out President Trump for what he said about Rob Reiner. I just said, you know, and I maintain this. If someone dies, just say something nice, okay? And if you can't, then don't. But Trump can say whatever he wants. Everyone is entitled to their opinions. Again, if you can't say something nice in the first few hours of someone's death, just hold off. Just hold off. It's okay. And you don't have to say something nice if you don't want to. Don't, don't. You don't have to talk about it. You don't have to. President Trump didn't have to talk about Rob Reiner dying. Like, you know, so just don't. And that's my take on it. Here's how Joe Biden responded to Lindsey Graham's death. He said this. Jill and I are shocked by the sudden passing of Lindsey Graham. Lindsay and I served together in Congress for over a decade, worked closely on many issues throughout. Throughout the years, we traveled the world together as members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. We disagreed often and sometimes loudly. Lindsay and I did agree on the profound importance of public service. Like me, he loved the Senate as an institution, even with all of its flaws and complexities. To his family, his staff, his constituents in South Carolina, and everyone who loved him, Jill and I are keeping you in his prayers. This was mostly very nice and classy, but he did do the thing where he said, I disagreed with him sometimes, which is the dumbest, most unnecessary disclaimer ever. Everyone disagrees with everyone at some point. Obviously, Lindsey Graham and Joe Biden disagreed on stuff. One was a Republican, one was a Democrat. That goes without saying. But I do have to give credit where credit is due. And that is to Senator Cory Booker. Yes, Spartacus, the certified Senate yapper. He paid the kindest tribute to his colleague that I had seen Watch.
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Cory Booker
So I go up to Lindsey Graham, and I'm a brand new Senate determined to do something about mass incarceration. And I hear through Dick Durbin and others that he's the guy to work with. And I say, Mr. Graham, sir, I'd like to work with you on criminal justice reform. He seems almost amused by what I said. He goes, corey, do you understand? I'm in a primary right now and I'm running against a guy who is batshit crazy. I Can't even so much as talk to you right now. Now get out of here, man. Come back to me after my primary. And I laughed and came back to him after the primary, and true to his word, he rolled up his sleeves and we went to work. And thanks to him and Dick Durbin and some other Senate heroes, our bill became the First Step act after years. Two presidents, two Congresses, and became law. One of my favorite moments in that negotiation was at the last minute, I'm trying to force one more thing into that bill. This has to do with children being put in solitary confinement. And I am going at it with this White House official who says, no, hard no. And we're almost yelling at each other. And then he says, I'm going to get Lindsey Graham on the phone, and he will tell you. And so he gets the White House operator to connect Lindsey Graham onto the phone. And Lindsey Graham listens for maybe a hot second and then interrupts the guy and says, are you kidding me? We need Cory Booker to get this bill done. We can't do it without him. Give him what he wants. And it was in the bill. It's now part of the law of the land. One of the White House negotiators during that first negotiation told me that Lindsey Graham was like an unguided missile, that, God, you never knew which way he was going to go, whether he would come back and hit you. But when he was aligned, when he would be in the right place of the right, right time, man, he could get things done that other people couldn't and bring a lot of light and new possibilities to the efforts. I am stunned at Lindsey Graham's death, but I pray that he is reunited with his friend John McCain, that they both are experiencing God's love, grace, mercy, and forgiveness. My prayers are with his family and all those who loved and cherished him. I will miss my perhaps most unexpected friend in the Senate and someone with whom I got some good things done.
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Haley
That's honestly one of the nicest things I've seen a liberal say about a conservative in a very, very long time. And with all the negative negativity that I saw online yesterday, that was the nicest thing that I'd seen anyone say about Lindsey Graham, Republicans included. And there are people in the chat that say, I don't buy it. Blah, blah, blah, like, this is. It's fake. Like, are you guys serious? This is the problem with everything today. Like, people do something nice, nobody buys it. There's. We have a master class in being classy, and it wasn't the mouthpiece I expected. I was pleasantly surprised. I liked hearing the nice stories about Lindsey Graham, and that was the kind of response that Hunter Biden was talking about in his tweet that totally missed the mark. And Cory Booker likely had negative things that he could have said about Lindsey Graham, but he chose not to. And this is the kind of cross the aisle friendship that is not uncommon. I talked to a congressman who's no longer in office anymore, but when I was at my job at Fox, he was telling me about how he has friends on the other side of the aisle. And it's very common for people to get along. And it's not as contentious as everyone thinks on television. They're colleagues in a way, and when they spend time together working on bills and whatnot in D.C. a lot of them are very friendly with one another, even if it's across party lines. And this congressman, who was quite a firebrand on our side, he said that he was friends with AOC and Ilhan Omar. And the people in the chat who think that Cory Booker is lying about being nice would probably not believe him when he says that, right? That there are good qualities about people on the other side. And you're entitled to be that cynical and jaded. You can think that other people are not good. I choose to believe that there are good people on that side of the aisle. Truly. I think that there are mouthpieces on the left and the right and on the far right and far left that sort of suck all the air out of the room. And most people are somewhere in the middle. And this division has gotten so contentious. And it doesn't have to be that way. Like, there are things about Lindsey Graham that I didn't like. I don't have to discuss that today. And I'm not going to, like, I don't have to do that. You don't have to buy into this negativity and this vicious cycle of negativity. And so this congressman that was telling me, you know, he used to hang out with AOC and Ilhan Omar, and he was saying, they're really cool. Like, when you get to know them, they're really cool. They're good people, they're fun to hang out with and down to earth. And he said, I'm going to go on TV right now and rip them to shreds because I hate their policies and I hate what they stand for, but they're good people. And I think that story. I've told a lot of stories about my career today, but A lot of these just remind us to go back to the humanity. Like we can get so tied into this political thing and this game and this system and this two party system where it feels like, you know, you have to be on one team or the other. And it's very contentious and it's. We're always constantly going at each other. But even the people who were elected in office who are on either side still find common ground with one another. So if you're just a regular person, like I'm just a regular person, why can't we do that too? I think it's very easy to get tied up in this. And I was going through the comments on Cory Booker's post and I know that there are Republicans in the chat who hate Cory Booker and that's fine. And you can hate me for liking him in this one moment. And there are his constituents who are also mad at him. You see how this is a problem where like someone does something nice and it's immediately people are triggered by it. People are saying this. This is really corny and weird. These are all the comments on Cory Booker's post. Death doesn't make someone morally good. Are you effing kidding me? This is not the take. Disappointed. This is insane. So we don't care if people are bad people as long as they're nice to us. I'm a constituent. This is deeply concerning. I'm so disappointed in this take. He's not a Senate hero primary. This guy right now, New Jersey deserves better. Again, the people commenting this had never met Lindsey Graham in real life. I met Lindsey Graham. He was always very nice to me. So I'm not going to rip him in the hours after his death. And I am going to try to encourage people to not get so deep into this divide. It doesn't have to be that way. It's much worse online than it is in real life. And maybe that's by design, because I think that there are powers that be that know that a house divided can't stand. And I think there's some evil forces at work. I said that earlier in the show, but I think that there are people who want to take this country down and they can do so if we all hate each other. And, you know, I don't know if Lindsey Graham's death prompted Mitch McConnell to post his proof of life photo, but, you know, people were talking about right away, like, who's going to replace Lindsey Graham? And you know, people were discussing the timing of his Ukraine trip. And I might discuss those things at another time, but I'm not going to do that today. But I do want to discuss this Mitch McConnell photo. Senator McConnell has been sort of MIA during his hospital stint and other medical situations that he's going through. And this is the photo that he put out yesterday or his staff. I guess this is C SPAN reposting, but this is statement from Senator Mitch McConnell. U.S. senator released the following note to his constituents regarding his hospitalization and recovery. And he said to my fellow Kentuckians, when you elected me to a seventh term and made me our commonwealth's longest serving senator, you did so trusting that I'd keep showing up to fight for you every day. And over the past several weeks, Elaine and I have appreciated both your well wishes and your honest questions about what was keeping me away from the Senate. You all know how folks of my generation often hesitate to share the vulnerability that comes with growing older. And even in the public eye, I feel that same instinct. I can't help it. But at the same time, I've had more than my share of experience with physical vulnerabilities. Surviving childhood polio meant spending my entire life with mobility challenges. They haven't exactly gotten easier to manage with age. And last month I took a fall which landed me in the hospital. My doctors have confirmed that I didn't break any bones or suffer a concussion. I didn't have a heart attack or a stroke. I don't have any tumors or hemorrhages. I but I was briefly unconscious and taken to the hospital while receiving excellent care. Over the past few weeks, I've also had to deal with a mild case of pneumonia. So he's going through it and I feel sorry for him. And we can have a conversation about term limits maybe another day. And I'm, we can maybe discuss some Internet theories surrounding this also. But I'm going to choose to do that another day. I'm choosing kindness. I will say, though, we have a huge trust crisis in this country and it got really bad. It was already bad before COVID but then Covid hit and people don't trust the government at all anymore. And I'm in that camp. I don't blame people for feeling that way. And it's only gotten worse. And I'm sitting here telling you, you know, I'm, I'm one of you, like if you feel that way. I feel that way, too. I don't like the government. And I think that if you are in a, if you are a public figure, but certainly a public servant and you are in elected office, you don't get privacy anymore. Even when you feel embarrassed about getting older, even when you don't want to be public with what's going on in your life, you owe the voters that. And that's an unfortunate thing that happens when you're in the public eye. And I had the same take when. Do you remember when Kate Middleton was sick with her cancer and they came out with a photo and people were saying like, oh, this is AI. It seems to me now that no matter what, whatever the narrative is, it is immediately false, like the Internet. And this is certainly true of Americans on the Internet. I don't know if other countries deal with this as much, but I feel like whatever the narrative is, it has become the hot new thing to just do the opposite regardless. Like, you feel like immediately I will be on the right side of history if I think that this government official is lying. And I understand how we got here. I think Covid certainly had a lot to do with that. The government was telling us to do the dumbest things on planet Earth. And people were saying, you know, we watched half of the country say, how high? After the government said jump. Whether that was walk this direction and don't see your family and let your family go to the hospital and die by themselves and wear a mask and whatever, don't go to the gym. And all these things that we lived through. Right. It was ridiculous. And we watched most of our, you know, country kind of fall in line. And then there were people like us who were thinking, I'm going to start questioning everything, because that doesn't make sense. And I get it, like, I am with you. But now we're in this place where, especially after Covid, government trust was at an all time low. And certainly it was happening before then and after then with all of the lies, all of the mainstream media and big tech censorship. And it's like, who do you. You can't trust anyone. Right? And now with AI, it seems like we can't trust the government and now we can't trust our own eyeballs. Because last week, not even a full week ago, There was an AI photo of Lindsay. I'm sorry. Of Senator Mitch McConnell in a hospital bed. That was AI. It was fake. And so I was. When this photo was released yesterday, because knowing there was an AI photo that came out of him last week, I was like, okay, this came from his office, but is this AI? So I'm asking, AI, is this photo AI? How's that for meta? Like, we're in this. This is hell. Everyone, we're in the seventh circle of fricking hell. I'm asking AI if this photo is AI, and AI is telling me that it is AI. And I'm like, I can't trust AI. I can't trust anyone. And we've gotten to a, just a very dangerous part where I don't know where we go from here. Nobody trusts anything. Nobody trusts even the good people that we put in office. Like Trump is in office here and he's surrounded by all people, good people, and nobody trusts them because they're part of the government. And it's, you know, we, we all know the dangers of the deep state and all these things, but now it's like we don't even trust the good guys. We can't even trust our own eyeballs. Where does that leave us? Where does that leave the country? And I know that you all trust me. I come on here every day and I tell you the truth and I'm always going to do that. And I appreciate that so much that you trust me because we are in a trust crisis, truly. Like, who can you go to? Who's going to tell the truth? And I'm always going to do that. And if I'm wrong, I'm going to come and say that. And in this moment, I can't, I can't tell you, like major news networks are running with this saying that this is legitimate. I, I don't know where we go from here because I asked AI and AI said it was AI, but I can't trust AI. And maybe the AI thought that I was asking about the other Mitch McConnell photo and that was AI, but maybe this one is legitimate. And then people are asking all these questions like why is he wearing jeans and why is he in a button down shirt and why is he not connected to anything? And there are reasonable answers for all of these questions. But then again, who knows the answers to those questions, right? And I don't know the answers. So I'm just going to come on here and be honest with you when I say I don't know. And I wish more people in this industry did that. I wish more people were just honest when they said I don't know. And I wish the government did that during COVID because I think we would have trusted the government more if they said, hey, we've, this is our first freaking rodeo. We've never had a pandemic like this before and we don't know, maybe it would have caused total panic, but we wouldn't have this. Or as much of a trust crisis as we're in right now. So anyway, I just wanted to tell you all thank you for trusting me and I'm always going to do my best and I'm going to end the show here because I don't think it's right to go into scrolling time and make jokes and even laugh at AI videos because, well, it just wouldn't be right. So I'm going to end it here. Thank you for watching. Thank you for watching always. And I will see you right back here tomorrow. Bye. The United States Soccer Federation presents the U.S. soccer Podcast. The place where I, Megan Klingerberg, a World cup expert, teaches you everything that you need to know for this summer's World Cup.
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Cory Booker
How special is it that we've been able to follow this young group of guys?
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Haley
It's been such a roller coaster of emotions. You can feel the intensity, quite a
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Cory Booker
bit of time, energy, effort, everything along the way on these guys making the country proud. And I think they will this summer.
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Haley
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