To Save Daylight or To Not Save Daylight… - Scrolling w/ Hayley (Ep. 342)

Summary

Scrolling with Hayley: “To Save Daylight or To Not Save Daylight…” (Ep. 342)

Host: Hayley Caronia
Date: July 20, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Hayley Caronia dives into the ongoing debate over Daylight Saving Time (DST) and whether it should become permanent, offering her trademark conservative commentary and wit. She also analyzes cultural and political headlines, including media reactions to the Blue Angels air show in Florida, controversy surrounding a transgender Senate candidate in Maine, and the divorce of comedians Tom Segura and Christina P., referencing modern feminism and cultural values. The episode is rapid-fire, sharp-tongued, and full of both humor and skepticism toward mainstream narratives—making it an engaging listen for those interested in commentary that pulls no punches.

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Daylight Saving Time Debate

(Segment begins ~[00:21])

Background

• Recap of recent Congressional action: In 2022, the Senate voted to make DST permanent, but it stalled in the House.
• The House recently passed the Sunshine Protection Act to make DST permanent; now it’s back in the Senate.
• Hayley notes, with her signature sarcasm, that Congress can’t protect elections but might just “protect sunshine.”

Arguments for Daylight Saving Time (DST)

• Later Sunsets: People enjoy longer daylight for evening activities and increased consumer spending.

  “I like being able to go eat dinner and walk around and you’re not in the dark. Just my thought.” — Hayley ([~03:00])

• Boosts Retail/Leisure: Golf courses, restaurants, and outdoor spaces benefit.
• Exercise & Vitamin D: More time outside after work/school.
• Some Farmers Like It: Coordination with consumer schedules.

Arguments for Standard Time

• Health Risks of the Change:
  • Springing forward is linked to higher heart attacks, strokes, workplace injuries, and auto accidents.
  • Minimal net energy savings in the modern era.
• Disrupts Internal Clocks: Twice-yearly changes interfere with circadian rhythms, hormone production, and productivity.
• Darker Winter Mornings: Increased risk for child pedestrian accidents.

  “Statistics for kids getting just absolutely wrecked by vehicles in the morning goes up really high. And that made me uncomfortable, I guess is the word.” — Co-host ([06:41]) “I am team protect the children.” — Hayley ([06:57])

The Core Dilemma

• Commute in the Dark, Morning or Night?

  “You commute in the dark in the morning or you commute in the dark at home… So, you know, choose your hard. Do you want to get hit by a car in the morning or at night? I don't know.” — Hayley ([08:13])

• Disruption for Businesses: Time changes complicate transportation, appointments, and international work.
• Expert Recommendations: Hayley acknowledges that most experts prefer permanent standard time for health reasons (better alignment with sunlight/circadian rhythm).

  “It is better for our circadian rhythms to wake up with the sun. And I do like waking up with the sun. I agree that that is better for our health. However, I don't want to come home from work at the end of the day and feel like I do when everyone has seasonal depression in December…” ([09:10])

Hayley’s Take

• Likes DST for the later sunsets, even if experts point to health benefits of standard time.
• Skeptical that clock changes are a serious hardship:

  “I feel like you’re soft. If it’s impacting you that much, no offense.” ([13:04])

• Notes the chaos of time zones, state exemptions (AZ, HI, territories), and the historical attempt at permanent DST in the 1970s which was quickly repealed.
• Tongue-in-cheek suggestion:

  “Can’t we just change when the school day starts?” ([15:27])

• "Time is nothing but a social construct." – Co-host ([15:24])
• Imagined future: individuals declaring their DST status in email signatures and social profiles.

  “Get your pronouns out of your Instagram bio and put your saving time preference. I'm living my truth. And my truth is that I live… in a reality that is an hour behind your truth.” — Hayley ([17:14])

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Blue Angels Flyover & Media Reaction

(Segment begins ~[17:51])

Context

• The Blue Angels performed a low flyover at Pensacola Beach—a popular annual event.
• Mainstream media framed it as “terrifying,” suggesting it endangered children and property.

Critique of Media Coverage

• Hayley and the team mock the media's narrative:

  “According to ABC News and of course, Nicole Wallace. We love Nicole Wallace here.”

• Media quotes : “That terrifying flyover for many…” “Showing a low altitude flyover by the famous Blue Angels just above the beach in Pensacola…”
• Hayley rebuts:

  “This is the citizens’ property? Like, what are they even talking about? … Who are you suing? The United States Navy. For what? Because you … got sand in your sandwich because your umbrella floated away?” — Hayley ([21:38])

• Notes that there's no actual harm (hospitalizations, hearing loss).
• Mocks Dem/TikTok comments about "frat house behavior," "intimidation," and “waste of money.”

Audience Reactions

• Actual beachgoers found it “badass”:

  “People smiling… They’re saying, this is badass. And everyone’s smiling. And, you know, Nicole Wallace says, well, everyone's screaming, but the screams are like, yay.” — Hayley ([24:33])

• Co-host: “Getting buzzed by the Blue Angels has just went immediately to the top of my bucket list.” ([23:50])
• Hayley: “You don’t get to get up close and personal with our military like that. This is very cool to watch.” ([25:02])

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Maine Transgender Senate Candidate: Ashley Webb

(Segment begins ~[27:28])

The Candidate

• Ashley Webb: Running as a trans and intersex woman for the Democratic nomination in Maine; has run before without success.
• Hayley exposes Reddit posts (from “Sparky603”) attributed to Webb:
  • Asks for signatures, details campaign.
  • Talks about “honey potting” Fox News, “I would like it to be a surprise so I can call them out on live TV.”
  • Claims to produce own estrogen and have periods.

The Overshare

• Webb’s Reddit post: Details physical symptoms, claims rectal bleeding is a sign of ovulation, tracks “periods” via an app, and accuses doctors of lying about scans.
• Hayley’s take:

  “This man who’s delusional… They need to not be affirmed. They need help… There’s more going on there.” ([33:36])

Panel’s Reaction

• Co-host: “Maybe stop sharing stuff online. A little self-awareness and that, huh?” ([34:45])
• Discussion on inclusivity within the Democratic party, inability to “close the tent” after opening it so wide, and “cost of being inclusive.”

  “Now you have crazy people running in your campaigns and you can’t say no. … Once you take the pronouns out of your bio, it becomes a story.” — Hayley ([36:00])

Humor & Cynicism

• Speculation that Webb is a “Mrs. Doubtfire” candidate, possibly Graham Platner in disguise.
• Hayley: “I don’t think that Graham Platner in a wig has a shot.” ([39:25])

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Tom Segura & Christina P. Divorce, Feminism, and Modern Marriage

(Segment begins ~[40:24])

Divorce in the Spotlight

• Comedians Tom Segura and Christina P. announce their divorce after 18 years together.
• Despite separation, they will continue to co-host their podcast.
• Hayley plays old clips where they joked about divorce:

  “I don’t think you can joke about divorce. You can’t threaten divorce. … And I think the more you say the word divorce, the more it comes up, the more it becomes normalized, the more you think, okay, this is an escape plan for us and you should never get married under those circumstances.” ([42:25])

Data & Observations

• Hayley notes research showing that massive weight loss (via surgery or otherwise) doubles divorce risk compared to the general population.
• Adds that, statistically, men are more likely to leave sick wives than the other way around.
  • “Female patients face a divorce or separation rate of 20.8% compared to just 2.9% for male patients.” ([44:28])

Christina P.’s Take on Feminism

• Plays a resurfaced interview clip where Christina P. calls feminism a “scam”:

  “It was the male ideal of success that ruined women. … I have to have my career…Like, this is not going to work for me… It makes the woman angry, resentful, bitter.” — Christina P. ([46:58])

• Christina explains that careerism, a “male ideal,” wasn’t right for her—motherhood brought her true happiness.

Hayley’s Commentary

• Critiques the cult of careerism for women, posits that feminism equates equality with sameness rather than true empowerment and difference.
• Notes that working is often a necessity, not always a “girlboss” choice, especially as housing and living costs have changed for young women.

  “I believe, are working because they have to. … I love it. … Would I be happier as a stay at home mom? Probably. But I’ll never know until I do it…” ([54:43])

• Cites friends in diverse circumstances—stay-at-home moms, working moms, those who feel a loss of identity, etc.
• Pushes back on standard conservative advice to quit work and focus on marriage—calls it impractical in light of modern economics.

  “Let’s say I quit my job. What do I do? I quit my job to focus on dating. Who’s going to pay my rent?” ([59:19])

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Permanent DST:

  “Not that I want children to be waiting in a lion’s den in Chernobyl. I don’t, I don’t want that. But I think maybe parents take their kids to the bus stop...” — Hayley ([07:14])

• On National Time Confusion:

  “Time doesn’t even exist. Is time even real? ... We can all just live in different time.” — Hayley ([14:12]) “The world is a mystery and time is nothing but a social construct.” — Co-host ([15:24])

• On Blue Angels Media Narratives:

  “Who are you suing? The US Navy. For what? ... You got sand in your sandwich because your umbrella floated away.” — Hayley ([21:38])

• On Oversharing Online:

  “That’s a hard pitch that maybe stop sharing stuff online.” — Co-host ([34:45])

• On Feminism:

  “She talks about being angry, having to fight to have the same career and the same lifestyle as her husband. And that didn’t make her happy in the end because she’s not biologically wired to be like her husband.” — Hayley ([48:36])

• On Modern Marriage & Work:

  “So I’m single by choice. Even though I don’t want to be single. Does that make sense?” — Hayley ([54:43]) “If I quit my job, who’s going to pay my rent?” — Hayley ([59:19])

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Daylight Saving Time Debate: [00:21] – [17:51]
• Blue Angels & Media Reaction: [17:51] – [27:28]
• Maine Transgender Senate Candidate: [27:28] – [40:24]
• Tom Segura/Christina P., Feminism, Marriage: [40:24] – [62:34]

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Final Thoughts

Hayley Caronia delivers fast-paced, pointed commentary fusing cultural critique, sarcasm, and conservative values. The episode touches on the practicalities and absurdities of time policy, the weaponizing of media narratives, identity politics, the cost of uninhibited inclusivity in politics, as well as the modern intersection of marriage, work, and feminism. While relentlessly opinionated, Hayley frequently invites wider perspectives and calls out the impracticality of “easy answers”—especially when it comes to women balancing work and family.

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This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease or condition. Put those phones on. Do not disturb. The show starts now. The Great Daylight Saving Time debate back in 2022, the Senate voted to make Daylight Saving Time perfect. I mean permanent. It got stalled in the House, so that went nowhere. Then last week, the House voted to make Daylight Saving Time permanent with the passage of the Sunshine Protection Act. Now it goes to the Senate, where everyone apparently has their thumbs up their asses and nobody can pass a bill that protects our elections. But maybe they'll pass a bill to protect sunshine instead. So let's get into the arguments for each. Right. Daylight Saving Time is the spring forward. The darker mornings, the lighter evenings versus standard time. We turned back the clocks. We got lighter in the morning, darker evenings. Okay, here are the arguments for Daylight Saving Time. Not mine. Just what the Internet is saying, what everybody else is saying. I'm going to give you my take of what what I want later. But this is the arguments for Daylight Saving Time. Longer evening daylight reduces the need for artificial lighting in the evening, which again, you know, we live in 2026. Andrew's got his, you know, he can talk out loud, talk out loud and his lights turn on and turn off. You know, we don't really have a need for this anymore. You know, the you turn the lights on. This is like sort of obsolete anyway. More evening daylight boosts retail restaurants, golf courses, outdoor activities. Studies estimate billions in extra consumer spending. I like this. I like being able to go eat dinner and walk around and you're not in the dark. Just my thought. Extra evening light encourages outdoor activity, exercise, vitamin D exposure. People generally report liking later sunsets. Some farmers prefer it because my phone, I mean, sorry, my laptop is going to die. Do we have a charger I can use. Just kind of important. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Sending the artillery. Usually I charge overnight. I guess I didn't charge. Sorry. Some farmers prefer it because it aligns better with consumer schedules for selling produce. More light in the evening may reduce evening accidents. Car accidents though morning accidents may increase. We're going to get into this where. When the accidents happen, does it matter? Okay, here are the arguments for standard time with remote work, flexible hours and year round lighting. The original rationale is outdated. We know this. The spring forward causes sleep disruption linked to higher heart attacks, strokes, workplace injuries and traffic accidents from for several days. Several days. It really does impact us, I guess. Modern studies including the US Department of Energy show minimal or no net energy savings due to increased air conditioning use in the evening. We know this. You know all the things that they say, oh, this is going to save energy, this is going to save the climate. You know, the, the world's going to end in 10 days, 10 years, you know, 20 years, whatever they say. Right. They always want us to do something and then we find out it doesn't make a difference. Okay. Twice yearly clock changes interfere with the body's internal clock affecting sleep, hormones and productivity. You can come on camera. It's okay. They already knew that. I'm sending in the artillery. The artillery, thank you very much. Darker mornings in the fall and winter increase car accidents and make it harder for children to get to school safely. This was an argument that you brought up.

[Co-host or Guest]

Kids getting hit by cars, longer days. But apparently the statistics for kids getting just absolutely wrecked by vehicles in the morning goes up really high. And that made me uncomfortable, I guess is the word.

[Podcast Host]

I am team protect the children.

[Narrator or Reporter]

Right?

[Co-host or Guest]

Of course, of course.

[Ashley Webb]

But.

[Co-host or Guest]

But I like waking up and getting home with the sun still up.

[Podcast Host]

I agree with you. Here's what this guy had to say.

[Co-host or Guest]

Watch of the children.

[Podcast Host]

If we make daylight savings time permanent, they'll be waiting for the bus in the dark. I don't care if they're waiting in a lion's den in Chernobyl.

[Ashley Webb]

All right?

[Podcast Host]

I don't want it to be dark at 4pm and this is how I feel. Not that I. Not that I want children to be waiting in a lion's den in Chernobyl. I don't, I don't want that. But I think maybe parents take their kids to the bus stop and. Not that that really prevents accidents is. I don't. I've never heard of this happening. I'm not saying it doesn't. Obviously I'm not. Statistics Are there?

[Co-host or Guest]

But yeah, I'm not good at math too, because I think I heard that in some cases the sun won't rise till pretty. In some places in the continental US

[Podcast Host]

like almost 9:00am yeah. Right.

[Co-host or Guest]

So.

[Podcast Host]

So people will be commuting in the dark.

[Co-host or Guest]

Correct.

[Podcast Host]

But here's the thing that drive home is dark.

[Co-host or Guest]

You. Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

You commute in the dark in the morning or you commute at the dark at home. Is it possible that kids getting off of the bus when it's 4pm and it's dark out are going to get hit by a car? It's possible. Right. And they even said, well, if there are less evening crashes, that means there's going to be more morning crashes and vice versa. So. So, you know, choose your hard. Do you want to get hit by a car in the morning or at night? I don't know. I guess this is. Also. These changes happen. I guess that's because people are driving in the dark. But a lot of these changes are, they say are annoying for businesses. Transportation schedules, medical appointments, and of course, international coordination. This is chaos to everyone beyond a different time.

[Co-host or Guest]

I was about to say, I remember leaving the country and getting there and setting like being completely confused on what the time was and them looking at me like I was a maniac for even saying we set our clocks back.

[Podcast Host]

Right. And honestly, the. The different time zones. It's hard enough if you work with people in different time zones. Like I used to do that I used to be booking car services and studios and whatnot in LA and in Texas and some states have more multiple time zones. And you got to check, you know, so it's. This is. It is. We already live in chaos. So I guess it's like, why not add to the chaos? I guess many experts prefer the permanent standard time because it aligns better with natural sunlight and human biology. It is better for our circadian rhythms to wake up with the sun. And I do like waking up with the sun. I agree that that is better for our health. However, I don't want to come home from work at the end of the day and, and feel like I do when everyone has seasonal depression in December, January, February, March, and in some cases April.

[Co-host or Guest]

Selfishly, as a Floridian, it's the best time to be out is in the winter in the sunset. And it sets so early in the winter. And now I'm.

[Podcast Host]

You're going to the beach.

[Co-host or Guest]

Selfishly, I'm going to the beach late.

[Podcast Host]

I know. And it. And it's. It's very nice. So I Get that there are potential health benefits, but at the same time, you can argue that there are health benefits to not going home. And then it's like, oh, it's nighttime, you're making dinner in the dark. You can't play outside with your kids when you get home from work because it's dark out. You know, it's just. I, I don't like that. I don't like standard time. And permanent standard time is associated with. And here are some more health benefits. Fewer heart attacks, strokes, atrial fibrillation, lower rates of obesity and diabetes, reduced seasonal depression and mood disorders. That. I don't really know how that makes sense because then you're like permanently in winter time when it's dark out. And that makes me sad as hell. But, you know, this is what the experts are saying, and it says that lower, there's lower overall mortality and inflammation. And a lot of these arguments for standard time have to do with the negative effects of the change either way, like the car accidents, like this happens for multiple days. Right. But once we make this permanent, it'll just be a little growing pain era, and then we'll be, we will get used to it. Right. I mean, wouldn't you just adapt once it becomes permanent? Don't you just. Don't these negative effects, aren't they temporary? Don't you move past this and then, you know, it would all even out. But I think a lot of these arguments have to do with the darker mornings, people getting into car accidents and such. But again, you just have to choose, like, is it going to be dark in the morning or dark at night? And if it gets darker earlier, you know, would that cause more accidents at night if people are commuting, you know, it's, I feel like it's going to be. Isn't it worse to drive? You're, you're driving less tired. I think at night, on your way home from work, you might be sort of emotionally exhausted, but at least you're awake. I feel like the morning accidents happen because people are tired and it's still dark.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, I could, I could see how that would be a big proponent of the accidents in the morning.

[Podcast Host]

Because if you're tired and it's dark, so then this would be an argument for the permanent time. No daylight saving time. No other way.

[Co-host or Guest]

The, the switch so that it's, it's brighter earlier.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, that's standard time for it to be brighter earlier. If we do the daylight saving time, you could get into an accent because you're tired, you're Driving tired.

[Co-host or Guest]

I say leave it. I'm team leave it.

[Podcast Host]

Let's leave it. What do you mean? Leave what?

[Co-host or Guest]

Longer days.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, I agree.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, that. I mean, I just, I can't. It's hard to fathom, like the fact that we do it is very tough for me. Every time we have to set our clocks back, it kills me.

[Podcast Host]

I don't really, I'm going to be totally honest with you. I don't think it impacts me that much. I don't really feel that much of a difference. I guess when you lose an hour of sleep. Yeah, I guess. But if you go to sleep late enough, you don't lose an hour of sleep.

[Co-host or Guest]

Thank you for that.

[Podcast Host]

If you go to sleep, if you go, if you go to sleep after the clocks turn back and you sleep a full eight hours, you don't actually lose any sleep. You just have to, you know, it can't be on a work day because then you have to wake up at a certain time. But, you know, life hack take the next day of work off and sleep in and then, I don't know, I, I've never really felt the difference of an hour. I, I guess it does, I mean it does statistically and scientifically impact people. I'm not saying that it doesn't. I'm just saying, me personally, I feel like you're soft. If it's impacting you that much, no offense.

[Co-host or Guest]

No, that's fair. Did you time out? Did you really just float taking a PTO day to recover from daylight savings?

[Podcast Host]

If you're one of these people, I'm saying I don't get impacted by it that much. But if you're like so impacted by it, sorry, boss, you can't drive and you're asleep, you're that thrown off, like sleep in, then I don't know, someone in the chat said, pansies. I agree. Like, this really isn't that big of a deal. But here's the catch and this is where it gets chaotic. If the Senate passes this bill, states can opt out. Hawaii already doesn't participate in daylight Saving Time. This is because they're closer to the equator. The change in time doesn't really impact the amount of daylight. Most of Arizona, aside from the Navajo Nation, ops out of daylight saving time. And they cite the fact that on standard time it becomes darker earlier. They can beat the heat. So for them it works. Right? Then there are other territories. American Samoa, Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands and Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands. They all do not observe Daylight Saving Time. This is chaos. I didn't. I knew about Arizona. What do you like? We just. Time doesn't even exist. Is time even real? What do you mean? We can all just live in different time. We already live in different time zones, so what does it matter?

[Co-host or Guest]

I had a friend facetime me from Indiana at 10 o' clock and the sun was just setting.

[Podcast Host]

It's so weird.

[Co-host or Guest]

The world is a mystery and time is nothing but a social construct.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, Time is not. Time can be whatever. And then here's the thing. If this is such a big deal, can't we just change when the school day starts and the school day has to start. You know, the school day and the work day have to coincide because parents drop their kids off from school and then it's, you know, they, they got to be at the same time. So I don't. Does any. Does time even exist? I don't know. So back in the 70s and 74, Congress tried permanent daylight saving time during an energy crisis. And they were supposed to save energy and they wanted, you know, with the dark winter mornings and kids going to school or whatever, they repealed it after a year. So we've already done this and we went back to daylight saving time and, and switching it. So I guess we don't like it permanent one way or another. So I guess if this, if we try this again, is it going to be the same outcome? And if it is, then isn't that the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over and it's the same.

[Co-host or Guest]

I'll enjoy my one winter of extra long daylight. And then when we go back, I'll complain. I, I'll accept. I accept my fate if we want to flip flop. But I'll enjoy it while we have it.

[Podcast Host]

I guess if you flip flop, we get the best of both worlds, right? You live in one, you live in the other.

[Co-host or Guest]

I think every individual should get to decide.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Just what time do you want to meet? Oh, well, I observe daylight saving time. So you know, we have to meet at dinner at 6pm oh well, it's 7pm for me. Like this is what, this is essentially what we do. It doesn't really impact people who live in the same area. It's if you're traveling and you're communicating with people who live in a different time zone and certainly if they observe daylight saving time or not, that's where this comes into play.

[Listener or Audience Member]

We're going to have to start putting our observed time zones of the email

[Podcast Host]

footer like our no in your pronoun and get, get your pronouns out of him.

[Co-host or Guest]

Daylight savings.

[Podcast Host]

Get your pronouns out of your Instagram bio and put your, put your saving time preference. I, my, I'm living my truth. And my truth is that I live, you know, in the. A reality that is an hour behind your truth. Okay? I'm living my truth. Daylight. Haley Karenia, dst It's like people have like Maryland and like all their other, you know, qualifiers after their name. For me, it's just going to be DST.

[Co-host or Guest]

Every breaking news broadcast breaking news today at 6pm or 7pm for those of you who honor the savings time.

[Podcast Host]

Who gives a shit when it happened? Nobody knows. Like, we're going to get to a point where nothing, if nothing matters. It's just, it's crazy. The different time zones are confusing enough. I mean, it's just ridiculous. All right, I'm, I'm doing a little last week's news today with you all because I wanted to cover this on Friday and we didn't have time and I really wanted to get it in because the fake news media is just ridiculous. So you all probably saw this video of the Blue Angels. You know, Pensacola, Florida is the home of the Navy's Blue Angels. And while they do air shows and demonstrations all over the country, the Pensacola Beach Air show is so certainly one of their biggest events of the year. And it took place last week. It actually ended over the weekend. And, you know, people want to see the Blue Angels. This is a highlight for American kiddos and adults alike. I remember seeing the Blue Angels when I was little for the 4th of July and thinking it was super cool because it is. But the mainstream media was painting a much different picture after this low flyover. Watch this.

[Co-host or Guest]

That terrifying flyover for many, dramatic, terrifying, showing a low altitude flyover by the famous Blue Angels just above the beach in Pensacola, Florida. People could be heard screaming. Umbrellas, tents, beach chairs, all sent flying. Here's Giovannidis.

[Podcast Host]

This is the shocking, terrifying, terrifying moment. And it is the, it is the umbrellas flying. There's sand in everyone's sandwiches. I mean, this is, this is Pearl harbor according to ABC News and of course, Nicole Wallace. We love Nicole Wallace here.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Watch.

[Narrator or Reporter]

So that was a scene that became terrifying, according to witnesses in Florida on Wednesday. It happened when the Navy's Blue Angels flew so low over a crowded beach in Pensacola that kids covered their ears and tents and chairs went flying. It is the sort of incident you'd expect people to apologize for, especially for the Blue Angels, who most people love and especially from an institution, the military known around the world for its rigorous standards and training and extensive operational experience. But now that the American military is being led by Pete Hegseth, this is what happened. Instead, opposed to X from Pete Hegseth promising, quote, the flyovers will continue until morale improves, end quote. It was followed by a post from the acting Secretary of the Navy who wrote, quote, flight debrief complete. No reprimands, no firings, no problem. That's the sound of freedom. Hoo. Yeah. To clarify, this is what your military leaders are focusing on. Not admitting mistakes, which is terrifying for a country that's currently at war, not doing an after action that says, yeah, the Blue Angels are too special to actually endanger children on the beach in Florida. Now, in addition to ensuring service members have high testosterone, that's the focus. CENTCOM has announced it six as it should.

[Podcast Host]

I do want my military to have high tea. I do. And Nicole Wallace, if you are listening to this and you believe this shit, she is saying that the United States Navy is putting children in danger. Right. And the Democrats posted this on TikTok and they've actually taken over that brat Summer Kamala HQ account and now it's like Democrat headquarters. So this was posted on the Democrat headquarters Instagram and these were just some of the comments from Democrats on this post. Frat house behavior. Yes, because destroying your citizens property, frightening them and deafening them is the way to go. This is the citizens property. Like what are they even talking about? Then someone else said that's a show of power. They're threatening us. Someone else said I'd sue. Who are you suing? The United States Navy. For what? Because you're. You got sand in your sandwich because your umbrella floated away. Like what are you suing for? By the way, there's been no reports of people having to go to the hospital, no reports of hearing loss or anything like that. If that was. If that was happening, this would be a different story. But like what are you suing over? You lost your umbrella? Someone else said the government is so sick trying to desensitize us for the war. Someone else said, just ruining everybody's day. Someone else said, I miss Obama. Another comment. This administration even ruins beach days. And intimidation and a scare tactic common for an abuser. Waste of money. This is, this is my favorite. When Democrats all of a sudden care about where their taxpayer dollars are going. They don't. Taxpayers in Minnesota were defrauded millions of dollars and they don't care. They don't care about that because of course it's an immigrant community. So they can do whatever they want with our money. But if the United States Navy wants to do a flyover that they do every single year, now it's a problem. Oh, where's my taxpayer dollars going? Someone else said, your government hates you. They don't care. Yeah, the Blue Angels really hate you. They were trying to put on a show and that it's because they hate you. And then someone else said, remind me again why we're dive bombing our own citizens. Dive bombing? Were people bombed? This is what I'm saying. Like, the. The hyperbole is just insane. They were flying very low. They were. But were they dive bombing the citizens? Is this. Is this a show of power from the United States Navy and they're. They're doing this purposely to scare your children?

[Co-host or Guest]

Now, I feel pretty neutral on the whole thing. I would say the umbrellas that got upended, would. Those can be a little dangerous. But come on, that's cool.

[Podcast Host]

It was sick. And everyone going to the beach to watch the Blue Angels was going for a show. Well, you got a show, guys.

[Listener or Audience Member]

Getting buzzed by the Blue Angels has just went immediately to the top of my bucket list.

[Podcast Host]

Exactly like that was very cool. And, Justin, you're not alone. The people who were there in attendance, despite what the mainstream media is saying, they loved it. This guy said, that was badass. Watch. Oh, my God. I got it on video. That was badass. People smiling. The caption there says, this is pretty cool. Not going to lie. They're saying, this is badass. And everyone's smiling. And, you know, Nicole Wallace says, well, everyone's screaming, but the screams are like, yay.

[Listener or Audience Member]

We. We have the. The air show by us around here a couple months ago. And back when it was nightly scroll at 6pm like, on the drive, we could hear them. Yeah, I was getting buzzed by planes. Not that close, but I wish it was. I was like, smile. I literally got buzzed by some jet and brought a immediate smile to my face. I cannot imagine what those beachgoers were feeling.

[Podcast Host]

I know. And so these people are laughing. Watch this.

[Guest or Commentator]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

I mean, that is what Justin was doing in his car. He wishes he was as close as that. I mean, someone in the chat just said, what a rush, right? It is badass. This is like, very, very cool. You don't get to get up close and personal with our military like that. This is very cool to watch.

[Co-host or Guest]

Even if it's an accident. Churning up the sand like that. That. That's kind of sick.

[Podcast Host]

It's kind of sick. Okay. And then so of course, I'm scrolling on TikTok because I'm trying to find the side of the story that the mainstream media was portraying. Right. The kids are crying, the people are screaming. They're covering their ears. I mean, yeah, they're covering their ears. Kids cover their ears when they hear fireworks, too. That doesn't mean that we should stop doing that. And so this kid is crying. Tears of joy.

[Narrator or Reporter]

Watch.

[Podcast Host]

You okay, logan? I got it.

[Co-host or Guest]

Finally.

[Podcast Host]

I got it.

[Ashley Webb]

Finally.

[Podcast Host]

He said, I got it. I got it. Like he was waiting for the plane to come. He sees the plane coming. He's excited that he got the shot. So the fake news media strikes again. It's their default setting to discredit anything pro America, certainly pro Trump. You know, the UFC fight on the White House lawn, that was bad. The flyovers bad. America 250 fair bad. They were actually mad that not even enough people went. They didn't want to celebrate the 4th of July unless President Trump happened to die on that day. And now the Blue Angels, who are known for their demonstrations every single year, despite who's president, are automatically problematic under the Trump administration. Recognize the pattern. Things happen under other administrations, no problem. Same things happen under Trump. Bad, orange man bad. And to keep up the orange man bad narrative, they have to lie. They have to lie. Speaking of lying, Ashley Webb, who's, I guess, running for Senate in Maine, I, I hope that I, I really, I hope he does well. I kind of have, like, a soft spot for this man. He's doing something. Like there's something going on in his brain that is not right. But I do kind of feel badly. But anyway, if you're unfamiliar with this candidate, let me jog your memory.

[Ashley Webb]

And then with, with the trans community, like, we're being dehumanized. They say that we want to hurt people. I don't want to hurt anybody. I just want bathroom and it. And if they want me to use the men's room, I will, but I don't want to be assaulted. I believe they called it pork bellying by cutting out the pork bellying from all the bills. I'm sure that would save a lot of money as well. But

[Ryan Reynolds]

actually, Webb, what qualifications do you

[Podcast Host]

have to serve in the US Senate?

[Ashley Webb]

Oh, I ran for office several times. Didn't win, but they did run. And then I'm a songwriter, and then I write my own books. And then suppose my transparency. I wouldn't lie to the people, and I wouldn't deceive the people. Like we're being deceived right now.

[Podcast Host]

Right. And we covered this on Friday. That of course he is deceiving people because this is a man with long hair and a dress and he wants you to believe that he is a woman. Right. And, and I looked on X and someone had reported that this guy is all over Reddit and he's under Reddit under the tag Sparky603 and that is allegedly Ashley Webb. He posted this on Reddit under that username saying, hi everyone, I'm running for the Democratic nomination for U.S. senate here in Maine, stepping into the race after Graham Platner's withdrawal. I am a trans and intersex woman from Farmington and I'm running the whole campaign myself. Candidate and treasurer both. No big donors, no machine behind me. I've done this before with zero budget and beaten expectations. And now I'm doing it again on a much bigger stage. Over the next two weeks, I need to collect 500 plus signatures from registered Democrats across eight main counties to even make it to the nominating convention. It's a long shot in a crowded field, but I'm not backing down from it. Wish me luck. I'll take all the good energy this community wants to send my way. Heading to Sanford today to collect signatures. Ashley J. Webb. So that was signed Ashley J. Webb. The person you just saw in those videos on the at the podium is Ashley Webb. He also posted this on Reddit saying that he wanted to be on Fox News to dupe them again. This is the guy saying that he would never deceive anyone. But he says, how does one get on Fox News? I wouldn't mind honey potting them. Don't tell them I am intersex and produce my own estrogen. I would like it to be a surprise so I can call them out on live TV for, for persecuting me the way I was born. Fact check. Men produce their own estrogen. So this isn't anything special. Just because you produce estrogen as a man doesn't mean that you are intersex. Doesn't mean that you are a woman. I produce testosterone too. That doesn't make me a man. So this is someone who has no understanding of normal hormone levels, which is also evidenced by this post where he says he bleeds out of his anus and I'm going to read this whole thing. We're, we're just going to go for it. Okay? He said this. They haven't found the ovaries or uterus yet. He's talking about the doctors who have taken in his situation. Right? He believes he is an Intersex person. So he's got female parts or he's a female in some way. But the doctors haven't found the ovaries or uterus yet, so I guess they're still searching. I wonder when they'll stop searching. But my understanding is a person can't ovulate without without at least a uterus. During puberty I grew breasts and armpit hair around the same time all the girls in class did. And the boys had not started puberty yet. And body shamed me for the armpit hair. People develop at different times. This doesn't mean anything. He then says, My mid-20s I developed lower right sided abdomen pain. And the pain comes and goes like a period and on the same timing as a period. During this monthly pain I get anal cramping, stool goes from firm to soft, my seminal vesicle pre sperms as if it's trying to lube a non existent vagina.

[Co-host or Guest]

What?

[Podcast Host]

What now? This is crazy. Sometimes during this I get rectal bleeding as well. But stopped telling the doctors about the butt stuff because first and last time I told them I got a colonoscopy and as a prize that turned up nothing. I am able to track this on a period tracker. This is how I know I am ovulating. Day before it says I'm supposed to ovulate, it ovulate, I feel the estrogen dump, slash peak. After this peak, I want to make a baby inside me. At first I asked for a gender clinic referral because I knew that would involve testing my hormone. If it came back that I was only producing a normal amount of testosterone, then getting it treated for gender dysphoria and making all the way above would be good. It was taking too long. So I told the doctor I was having hot flashes and asked them to both run a testosterone and estrogen test. And it came back that he produces, you know, whatever amount of estrogen and testosterone and he didn't tell his doctors about the symptoms because on the six CT scans they they did, they claimed to have found nothing. FYI, they lied to me about finding nothing and it is going to get them sued. So he again, he claims that the doctor is treating him. They, they're stupid because they can't find the uterus in his body that he's so convinced that he has. And he says that he's tracking his period on a period tracker. For the men listening and watching, I could go into my phone and download a period tracker and tell them that I got my period. There's no way that the tracker knows that you did or didn't get a period. It just goes based on what you tell them. So this man who's delusional and I feel sorry, like, I. I really do feel sorry, because these people need help. They need to not be affirmed. They need help. He thinks that he's ovulating. Right. He thinks that he's getting a period because he's got abdominal pain on one side, which is not how it works, but okay. And, you know, he. He's citing all these other bodily functions that are happening that have nothing to do with femininity or being a woman. But he's misguided. I'm going to use that word. He's misguided. There's more going on there. But I'm just going to say he doesn't really know what's going on. And he can go into the period tracker and tell the. The app that he's on his period. The app doesn't know that he's a man. The app just tracks it. Like the app says, okay, you're more. You're gonna get your next period and however many days, like 28 days and whatever. But there's no. Unless he's wearing an aura ring, which I haven't seen. This tracks it very closely with it. Tracks your temperature and things like that. And it's usually pretty spot on, but people in the chat are saying, like, I. I think he might be constipated. I think he might have some diarrhea going on. I think he might have some anal sex going on. He said he's bleeding out of his butt. I'm just saying, you're. You're looking at me like I'm crazy. He's saying it, not me.

[Co-host or Guest]

That's a hard pitch that maybe stop sharing stuff online.

[Podcast Host]

I think this is what they're all about.

[Co-host or Guest]

A little self awareness and that. Huh?

[Podcast Host]

Yep.

[Listener or Audience Member]

Put him in Congress.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah. What's going on in Maine? Are there no normal?

[Podcast Host]

There's no one else. The other woman is, like, obsessed with climate change. I hadn't heard from the other two guys. They look sort of normal like the other two guys, but I haven't heard anything that they said.

[Co-host or Guest]

So I liked in the video, the person standing beside him just, oh, well,

[Podcast Host]

they're all kind of like, oh, what's going on there? You know, no screen.

[Co-host or Guest]

Like, it doesn't seem like they got duped. They knew they were putting him up on tv. Weird to just roll with it.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, well, he got the signatures. I'm sure he Went through the process as necessary. So they can't really deny him. They can't say, hey, this is a bad look for us.

[Co-host or Guest]

I wonder if his songs are any good. He said he was a songwriter.

[Podcast Host]

He did. And he. I saw, because I was going through his Reddit posts or his alleged Reddit post, if this is who this is. Yesterday he said that he wrote a song about being misgendered or something. So.

[Co-host or Guest]

All right, we'll do some digging.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, we'll do some digging.

[Co-host or Guest]

Throw it on the, Throw it on the summer hits.

[Podcast Host]

We'll do some digging. Yeah, you know, he's doing all this campaign finance by himself, so maybe a few more streams will, will help him out. But this is really the issue with the Democrats because the more they welcome into their party with open arms and they really have let the trans community run amok, they can do whatever they want. I mean, the trans people, they shoot people and they don't care. Right? Like, they don't say anything because they can do no wrong. And this is what they do. They, they prop up these minority groups and it's like they're untouchable. You can't touch anyone who's an immigrant and an illegal immigrant if they're black, if they're brown, if they're gay, if they're queer, if they're transgender, if they're. Whatever, you can do whatever you want. That's the standard that they've set. So now you have these people, you know, the, the crazies and the people who are far, far, far left. And, you know, you said you wanted to be inclusive. Well, pay up. This is the cost of that. This is the cost of being inclusive. Now you have crazy people running in your campaigns and you can't say no. This is the thing. Like, you can't go back. Once you take the pronouns out of your bio, it becomes a story. You know, when will Adam Kinzinger take the Ukraine flag out of his bio? I guess never. Like, this is the thing. It's like you, you do these virtue signals and then if you walk them back, you're a horrible person. They've created this cancel culture vicious cycle where they're inclusive. Oops, maybe we shouldn't have been that inclusive. You can't go back on it. So this is, this is what happens

[Co-host or Guest]

when we saw that video, I guess it was two weeks ago, of even some of the biggest, most left leaning people getting berated for not being left enough.

[Podcast Host]

Right.

[Co-host or Guest]

And like, you can't even win.

[Podcast Host]

No, no, of course not. Unless this is Graham Platner. Because I said on Friday, you know, this motley crew that they've got on stage, it's just crazy. Like they really, they, they haven't found anyone that great. And I'm not saying that Graham Platner is great. I was just saying maybe they should apologize to Graham Platner and keep, keep him. Right. Maybe they should bring him back. And Andrew sent me this video. I actually, when you played the video on the show last week, I was going to say he kind of looks like Graham Platner in a dress. They look oddly similar, don't you think? The eyes. The eyes, Chico, they never lie. I don't know. The nose is very similar too. The lips are similar. I guess you can't really tell because Grand Platner's got the facial hair. I mean, are they going to elect Graham Platner?

[Co-host or Guest]

Are they. Is he Mrs. Doubt firing the whole state of Maine?

[Guest or Commentator]

I,

[Podcast Host]

I wouldn't put it past them. I really wouldn't. I think that I. Listen, they've got crazy like masks and things these days. Like, I, I would not put it past them. I really wouldn't.

[Co-host or Guest]

If he did, you would think that he would omit some of the information that was shared with everyone on stage, on national tv.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Co-host or Guest]

Like it feels. You couldn't, you couldn't come guns a blazing because then people would get suspicious. But it feels like you don't. Your answer for running isn't, I'm a songwriter.

[Podcast Host]

I don't think he has a shot, though. Graham Platner might have had a shot. I don't think that Graham Platner in a wig has a shot. This, this role that he might be playing may or may not.

[Co-host or Guest]

Indeed.

[Podcast Host]

He doesn't have a shot. Just not really well spoken. And I think this isn't really where the future of the Democrat party is going. I think people are kind of as woke as they are. I feel like they're kind of in this weir. Like I said, they welcome in. They can't push them out. But it's, you know, I don't think this is. They know that this is a losing strategy and, you know, he hasn't really caught up yet, but anyway. Jim Rome takes on sports.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I will always have a complicated relationship with this game, but people evolve. So do sports. Do not make me regret this. Do not make me devolve back to that guy. Did so many clothes clones wish that I still was. And do not embarrass the entire country. Now I can go back. I can get There fast lose tonight and you got a real problem. Do not blow it.

[Podcast Host]

The Jim Rome show podcast.

[Ryan Reynolds]

You've been warned.

[Podcast Host]

Follow and listen on your favorite platform. Let's talk about this celebrity divorce. Tom Segura, Christina P. Now, I've never listened to their podcast, but they have a podcast together and they're very funny. Obviously. They're both comedians in their own right, and they are now getting divorced, and they've been together for 18 years. They've been married. They recently separated, and they say that this has been happening over the last couple of months. It's completely amicable. They're gonna, you know, co parent and whatnot. They've got two kids, and they are going to continue co hosting the podcast, which they've been now doing for 16 years. They're going to continue, which I guess if they've been in a. A failed marriage or a failing marriage and they were able to do the podcast together and they have this mutual respect for each other and they're going to be co parenting. I feel like they're going to make jokes about this reality, which can be funny. But my thing is they've been joking on the show about getting divorced for a while. Watch this.

[Narrator or Reporter]

Wow.

[Guest or Commentator]

Just like that, we're divorced, huh?

[Podcast Host]

Woo bab.

[Guest or Commentator]

I thought I'd be dead by now.

[Listener or Audience Member]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

My idea for you.

[Podcast Host]

I'm not your business manager. I think your divorce should be pay per view.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Like, we all know it's coming, right?

[Podcast Host]

No, no, no, no.

[Ryan Reynolds]

He's got it. Yeah, go. Go with that thing of, like, I genuinely.

[Ashley Webb]

He's subscribed. Let him talk.

[Guest or Commentator]

It's so disappointing. I know. I was like, you and I can not split if you want to keep your money, bro.

[Ashley Webb]

This.

[Podcast Host]

This is your sales pitch.

[Guest or Commentator]

This is my sales page on a Staying married forever. Okay?

[Podcast Host]

We're never getting a divorce.

[Guest or Commentator]

Just so you know, like, you're. You're in it, at least until our kids are grown.

[Podcast Host]

Not happening, Segura.

[Guest or Commentator]

We're in it for life.

[Narrator or Reporter]

You hear me?

[Podcast Host]

This is a fact.

[Narrator or Reporter]

Okay?

[Podcast Host]

My thing, and I'm saying this is an unmarried woman. I've never been married before. I don't think you can joke about divorce. You can't threaten divorce. When you joke about divorce, it puts it out into the universe. And you can't let that be a. A carrot that you kind of dangle over your relationship when things go wrong and you say, oh, well, I'll just leave, or, you know, or you can't ever leave me or whatever. Like, all of this conversation about Divorce. That was happening publicly. Imagine what was happening in private. And I think the more you say the word divorce, the more it comes up, the more it becomes normalized, the more you think, okay, this is an escape plan for us and you should never get married under those circumstances. And you shouldn't allow that to kind of hang over your marriage like a dark cloud. I don't think that you should even say the word divorce and you should be on the same page when you get married to someone. Of course people change and things happen and circumstances change. And I get it, like, people get divorced, but it shouldn't be the goal and it shouldn't even be something that is on the radar. And I think for them, maybe they knew that they were getting divorced and they just kept publicly jabbing at each other. But I don't think that that's good. And I think you should get married under the notion that you are going to stay together for life. Like what Christina was saying in a lot of those clips. Like, you and I are together for life. Like, we're going to get through this. And, you know, if you're listening and not watching Tom Cigarette's face, like, you know, he's staring at the camera and making these faces like, oh, no, we are going to get divorced. And it's just rude. And a lot of fans have said that Tom has been rude to Christina over the years and whatnot. Some fans think that this has to do with Tom's weight loss. And I did look into the statistics on this. Both men and women married people who have major weight loss surgery are roughly twice as likely to get divorced or separated after your massive weight loss surgery compared to the general population. So you're twice as likely. But this is again, not sex specific. Like, this happens to both men and women who lose lots of weight. But it's not like 20 pounds here or there. I'm talking lots of weight, like 100 plus pounds. And this is probably more. I don't think that Tom got weight loss surgery. Like, I didn't think he got anything like that. But it could have been regular gym weight loss. It could have been Ozempic or something like that. I think it's probably going to be more common that people get divorced after weight loss now that Ozempic is so readily available. But I wonder how this changes, changes the statistics. If you're both on Ozempic and you both lose weight, does that make a difference? I don't know. So some fans were thinking, you know, Tom lot he used to be heavier now, he lost a lot of weight. He looks good. Is he gonna go try to get like, the hot new thing and leave his wife in the dust? People thought that, right? I don't know if that's actually true. I know nothing about their relationship. And I think women if. If a man loses weight, or, I'm sorry, if a man gains weight, I think women are more forgiving than if it was the other way around because we have this sort of dad bod versus mom bod thing in pop culture where a lot of women find dad bods attractive. I personally don't, but some women do. And it's never the other way. Like, men are never like, oh, I love her mom bod. Like, that's so hot. You know, maybe some people, but usually not, right? And here's another statistic for you, and this one has more backing more than the weight loss. Men are more likely to leave their wives after a medical crisis or a cancer diagnosis. A 2009 study on cancer and multiple sclerosis patients found that female patients face a divorce or separation rate of 20.8% compared to just 2.9% for male patients. So women more likely to stay beside their sick husband, less likely for the husband to stay by their sick wife. And Christina was diagnosed with breast cancer in 2024. Thankfully, she is cancer free now. Did that have something to do with it? I have no idea. I'm not going to try to. I'm not going to pretend to know. I don't know. But because their divorce is in the news, I've been scrolling and this clip resurfaced from Christina's interview on the trigonometry podcast. And she's talking about the lies of feminism and the beauty of motherhood. And I wanted to talk about this. Watch.

[Guest or Commentator]

It was the male ideal of success that ruined women. It was this idea that in order to become equal, we had to be like you. Yes, that's the problem. I have to have my career exactly. Like, tons. I have to be successful. Like, this is not going to work for me. This is not going to work because I'm a mother. My body can't keep up with this pace of work. It's not good. And it makes the woman angry, resentful, bitter. And now I'm useless because if my kid can't come for a snuggle and my cat can't come, you know, I'm the center of the home. This is the truth. And it's not pretty to say anymore, but that's just. That's what I learned.

[Podcast Host]

And it's so interesting that you touched

[Co-host or Guest]

on power before, because we were talking about power, and women want to be powerful. Like, men are powerful.

[Podcast Host]

Women are super powerful. Just not in the same way.

[Guest or Commentator]

A hundred percent. Babe, we are the ones, the puppet masters. No offense, but there's a reason I'm sitting here talking to you. My husband's on a plane to Indiana right now. Okay. And, I mean, I'm so grateful that he does do that. I'm not saying that I manipulate him to do that. He wants to do that. But, yeah, women's lives can be fantastic if you let the guys just do their own. Let them.

[Podcast Host]

Men and women are different, and that's a wonderful thing. It's a beautiful thing. And let me just do this little. I'm going on a diatribe right now. And let me just do my. My little caveat. Of course this is not all women, and it's not all men. Every time I say something, it's like, well, not all men, of course not. Not all women. Of course not.

[Co-host or Guest]

Okay.

[Podcast Host]

Now that we have that out of the way, there are outliers and exceptions to all of this. I'm sure there are women who are mothers and CEOs, and they've got it all, and they're happy. And I'm sure there are other women who are mothers and CEOs, and they're miserable. Right? I'm sure there are women with no kids, and they are happy, truly happy. And I'm sure there are women with kids and no career, and they're miserable. Right? Every one of these options is a possibility. But this clip encapsulates the issue with feminism, and it's that it was really never about equality. It was about getting even. She talks about being angry, having to fight to have the same career and the same lifestyle as her husband. And that didn't make her happy in the end because she's not biologically wired to be like her husband. And that's why feminism is a scam, because it forces women to be less like women. And what's wrong with being a feminine woman? Right? Why do we look down on that? And why do we prop up women who are acting like men? Why do we have to redefine the terms so that a feminine woman can be like a man? And why is it never the other way around? Why aren't people fighting for men to be more feminine in some cases? Maybe in Hollywood they are, but it's not mainstream. Because men aren't biologically wired to be feminine. And they shouldn't be. That's not to say that there aren't happy stay at home dads, but I think personally I would resent that setup because if I am lucky enough to get married and have kids one day, I want to be raising those kids. I'd be jealous if my husband got to stay home and I was working and I didn't get to raise the kids. So Christina talks about being, you know, in her career, a good feminist, and she was putting off motherhood for her career, and she became a mother and realized that the male centric career didn't make her happy. She essentially put off her happiness for decades, unknowingly, which is very sad. And I see this narrative on TikTok all the time. And there are young women and they are stay at home moms, and they are in their teens and in their 20s, like late. Like, you know, they're illegal, but, you know, 18, 19 years old, 20, 21. And the comment sections are full of women who are saying, please have a backup plan, please have a career, please have your own money. And I think any woman who is in a unhappy marriage or a failed marriage would say that. Not to, like, scare women, but I think they think that they're doing the right thing. They're trying to, like, protect their fellow woman. I don't think they're doing it to be mean or malicious because the stay at home lifestyle didn't work for them. But if you flip it on its head and women choose careers over motherhood, everyone cheers them on. You go, girl. Make that money. You never hear women say to other women, like warning women, well, don't, don't do that. You know, don't work too hard because you'll miss out on being a mom. You don't hear women saying to other women, be a mom. It's the best thing you'll ever do. That's very rare in mainstream media. And the reason for that is pretty obvious. It's not so much that there's this hatred and contempt for traditional wives and moms, like that exists, but it's that traditional wives and moms are probably not on social media. They don't have podcasts, they don't have platforms, so how would we hear about their experience? Right? It's almost like Yelp reviews. People only leave reviews when it's really bad. Otherwise you probably don't think to leave a review if you're happy unless there's like, you know, the only time I ever really leave a Yelp review, if it's good is if the person asks me to and they're like, hey, did you have a good experience? If so, it would really help me out if you left this review. I'd be like, sure, no problem, I'll do that for you. But if I had a great experience at a restaurant, I'm not leaving a review. If I am, if they spit in my food and there was 18 hairs in my food, you best believe I'm going to yelp and I'm going to say something. Right? And that's sort of how the motherhood thing is on social media and this conversation on social media. If it's really, really bad, they're going to be all over social media telling everyone how bad it is. If they're happy, they're happy. Happy people aren't talking about their lives on social media, they're outliving their lives. Right? But I thought it was cool to hear the perspective from this self proclaimed feminist who did the career thing and then did the motherhood thing and is spreading the word about motherhood being the thing that makes her the most happy and exposing the truth that the feminism lie was a lie that was sold to women, that you need to be like men to be happy. And that's not true. And there's so much doom and gloom on the Internet about, about like tradition and conservative values that I thought that that was very cool to see. Then again, everyone's different. Like I said, there's a caveat to all of this. I have a friend who's a stay at home mom and she wants to go back to work. She loves being a mom, best thing she's ever done, loves her kids. But she feels this identity loss and she's trying to fill it with, you know, a part time gig here or volunteer work or something. But I think it's more so an adjustment to my life is different now and she's wanting that. So that's one situation. I have another friend who's a working mom. She desperately wants to be a stay at home mom. Can't afford to. I have another friend who's a working mom and she loves being a working mom and she wouldn't want to give up her career. She loves doing both. I think the problem is that women have done both and then when it comes time to be a mom, they feel like they have to give up a part of them. Like I worked so hard for this career, I don't necessarily want to give it up. And they feel like they have to make this decision, this choice. And even when they choose to be a working mom. They feel guilty because it's like, well, I'm not, maybe I'm not being the best mom that I could, or maybe I'm not like diving into my work as much as I did. So it's like, it's very difficult. And this is because societally, women go to college after high school. Everyone kind of does that now. And people think they'll never get a job if they don't go to college. So then they, they go to college, they take on debt and they have to work to pay off those debts and make the education worth it, right? It's not really worth it if you go to college and you have nothing to show for it. So, you know, women go to college, they get a job, they work. That's my, my reality, right? So it's less than, it's. There's a societal aspect to this where going to college is just sort of like the next thing to do, right? You graduate middle school, you go to high school, you graduate college, high school, you go to college. And that was part of it. But now it's sort of become a necessity because what is the no college alternative for women? What is that like? If women don't go to college, what do they do? How would they live? Do they have to stay at home with their parents? What would they do? For men, it's trade school. Learn a trade, become an electrician, become a plumber. There are viable options for men to have successful, fulfilling careers without going to college. Of course, women can become plumbers and firefighters too, but statistically that's not women. That's not what women do. They're not drawn to it, of course they can. But women are drawn to becoming teachers, nurses, therapists. These things cost money and require schooling. So the no college options for women are less so, right? They can maybe become an entrepreneur, maybe they have some kind of a minimum wage job of some sort. Maybe they're serving, they're stocking shelves, something like that. So here's the financial issue for women. If you don't have the money to go to college, you have to take out loans and work and suffer financially later. Or you cannot go to college, take a lower paying job, or take a risk on building something on your own and suffer financially now. Or you can get married young, have no career, have no money of your own. So then if you get divorced, both parties are financially screwed, right? And nowadays, even if you want to get married young and have children, most young men cannot provide for a family on one income in their early 20s. So women are going to college, they're working. Not because they're so desperate to girl boss, because it's not really feasible to live at home until you financially meet a stable man. People would be living at home much longer than before, which is already happening. People are living with their parents well after college, well into their 20s, sometimes well into their 30s. I have friends and of course this is different. No matter where you live in the United States of America. There are different economies within this economy, right? My friends who live in New York, it's very expensive. I have friends who are in their 30s who are married and they cannot afford to buy a house. I have friends who are in their 30s who are going to have kids in an apartment. I have couple friends who are dual income households in their 30s. They can't afford to have the wife stay at home. It's not for lack of wanting. Women, I believe, are working because they have to. And some people work and love it. I love it. And Christina talked about choosing one lifestyle over another in that clip. In today's economy, it's less about choice. More women have to work and it's the women who don't like working but have to who are miserable. I've never resented my career because I've built something that I'm very proud of and I'm happy doing it. Would I be happier as a stay at home mom? Probably. But I'll never know until I do it and I get accused of putting my career over marriage and motherhood all the time. That's not true. There is a luck aspect to dating that people don't like to admit. People say that dating is a numbers game. People tell me all the time like, you gotta beat the system. You know, the more dates you go on, the more likely you are to meet your person. Which there's probably truth to that. But I've always been very intentional with dating. I've always dated for marriage. I've never dated someone for fun. I've never dated people I never thought I could marry. Like that's not the goal for me. Marriage has always been the goal. Even when I was in college, after college, I. I never dated someone for like no reason. And I haven't met my person and I haven't been introduced to my person. I could be married to someone, right? But I don't want to get married in that way. I want to marry the right person. I want to marry my person. So I'm single by choice. Even though I don't want to be single. Does that make sense? And I saw a comment saying that I should stop working to focus on getting married because I'm running out of time and I'm very aware of my biological clock. I don't need random people on the Internet telling me that I need to do this or I need to do that. And you know, this person is saying obviously, like, my job is the reason that I'm single. Again, this assumption that I'm prioritizing my job over marriage. But let's play this out. Okay, so let's say I quit my job. What do I do? I quit my job to focus on dating. Who's going to pay my rent?

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The dates? I don't know. I don't know how that works.

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Right.

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Never thought about this. Actually, this is blowing my mind.

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I would have to move home with one of my parents. And then what job would better set me up for success to find someone, like, answer, you know, because these people just say shit and then they don't actually play it out. Like, this is why I'm, I'm fascinated by this. Because it's like, what would you like me to do if I didn't go to college? What, what should I have done? What would make me more desirable? Like what, how, how would me living at home with my parents make me a more desirable candidate? I just don't know if that would. And I don't think that having a career turns people off. Like, most of my married friends have jobs. Only one of my friends is a stay at home mom. And that's because it's financially impossible for most people. So that's not really true. Like, I don't think that my job is turning people off. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. But like, my person isn't going to be turned off by me.

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Well, and it's not like being unemployed where you sit at home and you send out application after application. At this point, what do you do?

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At this point in my life, like, what would I do? It's crazy. If I said, if I went on a date and I said, I'm 32 years old, I live at home, I

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don't have a job, Essential oils, figured it out.

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People would be like, what? What are you doing? You know what I mean? It's just crazy. Like I just, I play this out and I'm like, I know that in the conservative movement people say, you know, get married young, have as many kids, more kids than you can afford. And you know, I think that that works for some people. If you meet the right person, you can grind together and grow together. I think that's wonderful. But it's not this one size fits all advice. And when you play it out, it's like this doesn't really make sense. It doesn't really make sense at all. I do think that the more successful a woman is, the harder it is to find a match because she's probably looking to date someone on her level or someone who's more successful than she is, which makes the pool smaller. Men are willing to date down financially because of society and societal expectations and standards. But then again, I have friends and I would actually say most of my friends, female friends who are married, make more than their husbands do. So like I feel like this advice to get married young and have the men provide and all this stuff, it's like not really the reality anymore. It's just not reality. I don't know. What do you all think? I just went on a tangent, but we don't even have time for scrolling time. I've got to save it for tomorrow.

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There you have it.

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I'm saying I don't have all the answers. I'm just saying the answers that people, the questions that people have, they don't even think about what this actually means. Like, play it out. Is the advice that you're giving even feasible for people? Not really.

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You would have.

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I'll just, I'll just quit my job.

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No, I'm thinking through like, what do you do with all those hours? So you're, you go on a date for two hours. Let's say you date every single night. That's your full time job.

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What would people say about me if that was my full time job? If I quit my job and I was just. They'd be like, you're boy crazy. You're like, that's nuts to do that. That's totally insane. I don't know. We'll think about it. You can follow me on social media. Aycaronia and I'm going to have a scrolling time for you tomorrow. Just you wait. See you then. Bye.