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In this episode of Nightly Scroll: Former Secret Service Agent Scott Bryson joins the show to break down the MN ICE shooting death of Renee Good. We dive into different angles, discuss law enforcement protocol, debunk internet theories & more.
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Haley Karenia
Hello and welcome to Nightly Scroll. I'm Haley Karenia and it is Friday. We have made it to the end of the first full week of the year, the first full week after a holiday at that, and we made it. So welcome into the show you might be watching right now on Facebook or on X. You're only going to see a little bit of the show and let me just say, you're going to want to stay till the end. So if you are watching on those any pla on those other platforms, thank you for watching, but you might want to come over to Rumble. We are Rumble exclusive here. So rumble.com Haley is where you can watch Nightly scroll in full Monday through Friday, 6pm Eastern time. And of course you can scroll with all my homies in the chat. It's the best way to watch. And of course, if you can't catch us live at 6, that is okay. You can watch whenever you want on Rumble or listen on your favorite podcast platform, whatever that may be. I heart Spotify, Apple podcasts, doesn't matter. But just make sure that you're subscribed, you tell a friend, you leave a nice review. All of that helps. So. And of course you could follow me on social media at Haley Carnea. On most platforms, not on Facebook, I see a lot of people friending me. You're never going to get a response to that. I apologize, but Facebook's not for me. And not Threads either. I don't like threads. But January 9th, today happens to be Law Enforcement Appreciation Day and I have the pleasure of having friend of the show for former Secret Service agent Scott Bryson on in just a few minutes. We're going to break down everything that's happening out of Minneapolis, Minnesota. So put your phones on. Do not disturb. Nightly scroll starts now. We've been covering these developments out of Minnesota all week and it really hasn't been Minnesota's day, week, month or year. And between the rampant fraud, the death of this woman who accelerated her car into two federal agents, all that went on in 2020, you know, businesses burning to the ground. I've never been to Minnesota and I'm not trying to crap all over Minnesota. I'm sure it's a great state and I'm sure, you know, there are some redeeming qualities and great people, right? I know that not everyone that is there voted for Tim Walls. I know there are a lot of patriots there, right? Because I know how that feels. I used to live in New York City. I used to live in New York. I didn't vote that way. But I know what it feels to be like the minority in this. The political minority in this, the city or this state. And I don't know, based on what I've seen on the news, though, it's not on my bucket list. I'm sorry. And speaking of the news and what the news is covering or not covering and not telling us, I found this video of the scene of the crime that has me scratching my head. Watch this. So this is where it happened. There's where she crashed.
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Scott Bryson
And what the media isn't reporting is.
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Haley Karenia
That this happened right in front of a giant rubber shark and rubber dinosaur. There's where someone was murdered. And here's the most Minneapolis in the world. Murder whimsy.
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Scott Bryson
Murder whimsy.
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Haley Karenia
This is how you know it's a liberal, artsy, fartsy hellhole. You know, just a bunch of gender studies majors turned baristas turned activists, women's history majors turned baristas turned activists, psychology majors who were really just trying to figure out what the hell was wrong with themselves and why they're so miserable. And. And then they sought out therapy and their therapist, their woke therapist probably told them to find a community somewhere. And they did. They found a community in the basement of a church with a gay pastor. And it was at a fight ice seminar. And then they learned how to use their iPhone cameras and their outdoor voices to combat a federal agency. And they learned how to commit felonies in the name of social justice. And then after a long, hard day of stomping their feet and screaming into the ethereum, they go home to their biblical, biblically accurate T. Rex that's in their front yard and their biblically accurate shark that is also in their driveway. And in the distance, they can hear someone screaming outside the governor's mansion. And then they make themselves a 3D printed Beyond Burger for dinner. And they realize they forgot to pick up their kid from their fraudulent daycare at 10pm when it closes, of course. And then they realize, wait, I didn't forget my kid at my fraudulent daycare. I aborted it. Never mind. That's what I imagine what living in Minneapolis, Minnesota is like. And here is a former theater kid making a difference the only way he knows how. Watch.
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Poet/Spoken Word Artist
She's less than a mile from where George Floyd laid. It's by the laptop repair shop. And the torn speedway. There is this woman. There's broken glass. There is her body. And demand with the. There is this bullet and it's lodged in the snow, reminding the city what it's Always known body cams haunt my dreams. I've seen gore on iPhone screens. Five years ago, I assumed the world would grow. But it's the same president, it's the same story. Little man with a gun, he's looking for glory A mother, a father, an auntie, a friend A screen and a flash and inglorious end Then here comes the foxes, here comes the labels A terrorist, a criminal, a national fable. But I've read the story. I know the last chapter. The press secretary is not a great actor. And when will it end? When will we start learning? I'm not 17 and it's still the same yearning. I mourn the righteous and I mourn for my neighborhood. I mourn the Georges and I mourn for. The good.
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Haley Karenia
Beautiful people in the chat. Yuck. Turn it off. Stop, please. Enough. Come on. If I had to see it, you had to see it. But if you can't fight a federal agency with your iPhone and your outdoor voice, you can try slam poetry and a guitar. It's worth a shot.
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Andy
We gave it a remix in here that was pretty impeccable. I mean, full edm.
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Haley Karenia
It was nice.
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Social Justice Commentator
Yeah.
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Haley Karenia
I'm happy for you guys. Well, anyway, in all seriousness, these people, they are, you know, turning this into a political thing. A. They're comparing this situation to Charlie Kirk's assassination. And here is what this woman had to say. Watch. And if you posted about Charlie Kirk saying how nobody deserves to die that way, but you don't care about Renee. Nicole. Good. You're the problem. You're the villain. You're wrong. They want their own Charlie Kirk so bad. They do this. They want martyrs. And that's the difference between us and them. We don't want martyrs. We want Charlie back here with us. And unfortunately, he won't be. And we're not using his death for anything to push a narrative or to get sympathy. But according to the left, you know, Charlie's beliefs were enough to justify his public assassination. We watched people celebrate it. They felt justified in publicly celebrating his murder, his assassination. Let me be clear. Nobody is celebrating the death of Renee. Good. This brings me no joy in reporting on. But having a public debate, sitting in a chair debating college students and engaging in discourse, that's one thing. Disobeying the orders of a federal agent is another. They are not the same. And it's disgusting to insinuate that they are. And the left wants Renee to be their very own Charlie because the black community won't let her become their very own. George. Floyd, watch this.
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Social Justice Commentator
Hey, so I'm not trying to be rude at all, but say her name is specifically reserved for black women. That chant started as a direct result, and I remember because I was an organizer at the time. It started in the early days of the Black Lives Matter protests. I mean, like Trayvon Martin early days when black women who are also being victimized to police brutality, like Sandra Bland, like Rekia Boyd, oh my God, the list is endless. They were not getting the same coverage as black men and boys who are also being victimized. That's not to say that they are not important. It's to say that the black girls and the black women were completely ignored. Hence say her name. While I understand the severity of what just transpired, it is also important to recognize that that does not mean that you should co opt other people's movements. Black women own that for a very good reason. Recipes to Renee. But say her name is not reserved for white women. Respectfully. Again, not even trying to play semantics, but it actually does matter. That's it.
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Haley Karenia
This is like when people say all lives matter. He's saying, no, it's only black lives. And no, you, you can't, you know, to other leftists, you can't use our slogan. It's our slogan. And people in the chat are pointing out that it is racist. So yeah, and that's probably why this next woman feels so guilty even being sad about the whole situation. Because, you know, she's just a white person, a liberal white lady. She's maybe not gay or trans or anything else to make her more special in their eyes. She has to play this game of social justice. Minesweeper in her head, tiptoeing around all these other minority groups to see if she's allowed to feel any sort of way about this. Watch this.
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White Liberal Woman
I know that this is going to come off so insensitive, but I literally don't know how else to say this. If a white woman can get shot in the face by basically executive order, we are done for.
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Haley Karenia
We are done for.
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White Liberal Woman
If this is not the catalyst to a revolution.
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Haley Karenia
It'S.
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White Liberal Woman
This is it. I'm scared, guys. I'm scared. I've been scared since he got became president, but I am scared. This is officially the white people problem. Y' all need to gather and figure it out. Dead ass, dead ass, dead ass, dead ass. Oh, I don't even know what else to say. Figure it out.
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Haley Karenia
They're slowly getting it. It's not about race. It never was. It's about the law and who follows it and who doesn't and those who follow law enforcement instructions and those who obstruct law enforcement, they face those consequences. If we could play video five, though, that's what I was teeing up there. The, the woman who was the Daily Caller reporter who's out there and she was talking to that white woman who said she was all sad about this situation. And let's, let's hit that.
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Daily Caller Reporter
So, I mean, I'm just walking around kind of just dayside because I got, I was like, I don't know if.
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Haley Karenia
It'S the right thing to do.
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Daily Caller Reporter
It feels kind of wrong being here in some way. I don't know why, why, Why? I don't know. I don't know like where that stems from. Like, I don't, I mean, part of it is being like a white woman, that I'm privileged and I have a lot of privilege. So I feel like white tears are not always something that's helpful or necessary. When black and brown people have been experiencing this for a long time, this isn't new for them. And so I don't know if that makes any sense in that way.
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Haley Karenia
How did you decide that you should be here? Are you still figuring that out?
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Daily Caller Reporter
Well, I work like two miles from here, so driving by just, I don't, you know, it's like I'm here, I'm two miles, I can stop.
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Haley Karenia
Yeah, well, tears don't do anything anyway. It doesn't matter what color the person is that the tears are coming from. Yeah, tears don't do anything. They are useless. And you know, sure, you can cry, but it's not going to make a difference. And I mean, this is just, it's white woke liberal gymnastics to it's Olympic levels of gymnastics.
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Andy
And she took a two hour detour and then said, I just happened to be driving by.
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Haley Karenia
I was just driving by. So I figured I would cry here and now actually now that I'm sitting here and I'm realizing my whiteness now I feel like I shouldn't even be here to start with. And yeah, you should all just go home. That's, that's really the, the name of the game here. You should all just go home. But if the left can't pull the race card, they pull the gay card. Watch this.
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White Liberal Woman
So that woman that ice murdered today was a lesbian. Renee Good was a lesbian. And the reason that this matters is because, number one, her wife was in the car with her.
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Haley Karenia
Not true. When it happened outside the car.
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White Liberal Woman
Number two, shortly after, her wife gave a distraught interview to a reporter in which she said she mentioned we have a six year old who's in school right now. Like I have to go pick our 6 year old up from school after this. The child's grandfather gave an interview to the news. This would either have been Renee's father or the father of that child's biological father. It's unclear from the context clues. That child's grandfather gave an interview to the news in which he said I'm going to have to fly to Minneapolis to pick up my grandchild who has nobody left. There's nobody left for them. That child's other mother is still there. Well, she's still there. That child was in a stable, loving, married, two parent home and the second parent is still there. That child's grandfather is now clearly intent on trying to rip the child away from their remaining mother after they.
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Haley Karenia
Yeah, so you know, I didn't consider the woman's sexual orientation when I saw her reverse her vehicle and then accelerate into federal agents. I, I wasn't considering who she sleeps with or what she does behind closed doors because that doesn't matter to me because I'm normal. But wow, that changes everything. No, it doesn't. But there are some weird details about Renee Good and her, her married life and she was married to her first husband and had two children with him and they are now 12 and 15. Then they got divorced and then Renee was in another relationship where she had a son who is now 6 years old that lives in Minneapolis with them. That child's father died in 2023. Now Renee is in a marriage with this woman Rebecca and they are raising Renee's six year old son together. But this isn't a child that Renee and Rebecca decided to adopt together or have together by whatever means. This is a child that Renee had with her ex husband. So Rebecca, unless Renee put Rebecca into her will saying that she is going to be the legal guardian should anything ever happen to me, Rebecca is not the next of kin. So this grandfather that is seeking custody of that child, he would be well within his rights to do so. Now I've been kind of digging into this all day and the details of the custody and where those other two children are, the 12 and 15 year old. It's unclear if it's the grandfather that has custody of them or the father, the her original first husband that she divorced. It's unclear. So I don't want to get into that. But I will update you when I find out those details. For sure, I didn't see any reputable sources talking about it just stuff online, so I won't get into that. But Governor Tim Walls, you know, he called for a day of unity. Listen to this.
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Governor Tim Walls
Hi, everyone. Minnesota Governor Tim Walls here. You witnessed in Minnesota yesterday a tragedy, the death of Renee Good on the streets at the hands of a federal agent. You also witnessed last night a beautiful, vigilant, a peaceful visual, people expressing their constitutional and First Amendment rights.
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Scott Bryson
Thank you.
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Governor Tim Walls
Thank you. I've been very clear. We need a couple things here. We need Minnesota to carry out this investigation to make sure that the professionals at the BCA and that local law enforcement, who's in charge of law enforcement, make sure we do the investigation, and then to pull back this unnecessary surge. And so with that, I would ask for all of us to continue to do this peacefully, continue to raise our voices, but do so in a manner that brings about that sense of community in Minnesota. I'm declaring tomorrow at 10am on January 9th. I'd ask everyone to pause for a moment of silence to remember Renee Goode, also to remember all that's good and right about this nation. And I'm going to ask folks if they can. I'd ask employers to give their people some space. I'd ask each and every one to find a way to contribute in your community. It might be being at a food bank, it might be pausing to talk to someone you haven't talked to before, but to show the goodness, to rise up, to make sure that we're being very, very clear about this, that we expect our constitutional rights to be respected, that law enforcement is local, that we expect accountability of our elected leaders, and that we are not going to go quietly and we're not going to give up on those things that matter so much to us. And chief amongst those is human dignity, respect, rule of law, all of the things that we know make this country great.
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Haley Karenia
So he's talking about the need for unity. And someone in the chat was saying. And I started laughing because someone said unity. So we all use tampons. Men at all. The men and women of Minnesota use tampons. And that's how they find their unity, I guess. But, you know, the state's falling apart, it's broke, it's corrupt. You know, thank goodness for Tim Walls leadership in this moment. Where would we be without this day of unity? And all of this, by the way, was happening, really, because of the fraud that was happening there in the first place underneath his nose. The ICE efforts probably wouldn't be ramped up in that area if it weren't for the Somali community and all the fraud happening there. So, you know, he calls for a day of unity and then, you know, he thinks that people are just going to be united like that. You know, what is this, a Disney movie? So anyway, he calls for this totally useless day of unity, which is just a virtue signal. And here is a look at that unity happening on the ground in Minneapolis. Watch. Do you know that you're not gonna make the fascists trap their pants? Tired of being told to be peaceful to your oppressor? You should be. Do not be peaceful to your. Save our life. Kill and ice. Save our life.
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Poet/Spoken Word Artist
Kill and ice.
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Scott Bryson
Save our life.
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Haley Karenia
Kill and ice. Save. You know, these people. It's, it's not unity that we're seeing across this nation. This is just absolute disgraceful behavior because, you know, there was no violence taking place in that video. But you could hear the protesters and I think those protesters there were in New York. But the point still stands that Kristi Noem will hang and save a life. Kill an ice. These are not unifying messages unless you're unifying in the name of hatred. And protesters keep putting themselves in dangerous situations. And for what? I mean, do they really believe that their protests or that filming officers is going to stop their efforts? ICE is going to see that people are protesting and they're just going to dismantle the department and go home, you know, because some Minnesota mom said so, or some group, some activist group in New York said so. These groups advocating for these people to go out and confront ICE officers, by the way, have blood on their hands. But the left will argue that it is their moral obligation to commit felonies because they're standing up to the Trump administration and for that reason it's justified. As I'm getting older, I'm starting to have some stuff, stiff joints, some poor sleep, and I'm sure you, like me, want to find something that will help you feel younger and slow down aging. So I'm excited to share with you guys. C15 from Fatty 15. It is the first essential fatty acid to be discovered in more than 90 years. Fatty 15 co founder, Dr. Stephanie V. Watson discovered the benefits of C15 while working with the US Navy. And based on studies, we know that when our cells don't have enough C15, they can age faster. Fatty 15 can help repair and protect age related damage to cells and help activate pathways in the body that support our overall wellness. Fatty 15 is a science backed, award winning 100 pure C15 supplement that comes in a gorgeous reusable jar. I'm having much more energy since 5:15 sent me some to try and it is really helping me get through long days. Seriously guys when I take this my head hits the pillow and I am out. And Fatty 15 is on a mission to to help optimize your C15 levels that will support your long term health and wellness especially as you age. You can get an additional 15% off their 90 day subscription starter kit by going to fatty15.com scroll and using code scroll at checkout. These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease.
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Scott Bryson
Well, thank you for saying that. Oddly enough, I just retired today for the second time from wow. The local sheriff's department that I was working at. So 30 years has been, has been great, but it's enough and it's time to do something else. So thank you for saying that.
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Haley Karenia
Well, congratulations and thank you again. I, you know my heart goes out to people like you and other people who put their lives out on the line and you know, still you, just because you, you've retired today, you're still helping people every day on social media and helping safe. So this is a lifelong commitment that our men and women in blue make and we are so appreciative of you and everyone else here at Silverlock for sure. But you know, this incident in Minneapolis is, is tragic in a lot of ways. It's, it's unfortunate. But this video of this incident went viral earlier in the week. And I want to play that version of the video first and then we can get into what went viral today and how this kind of changes things. So let's watch this first. So you see the woman there? Renee. Good. She is in that burgundy colored Honda. ICE agents are approaching the vehicle. Get out of the car. Get out of the car. She backs up, gets shot. Oh, my God. Now that is the video that has been going viral and circulating on social media for myself. And I would love to get your opinion. This is why you're here. But I want to say my opinion hasn't really changed much since seeing this new angle, but I want your opinion. What were your first reactions when you saw this angle?
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Scott Bryson
Yeah. Well, the first thing I would like to say is, and I know your audience is already tracking this, but whether you like ICE or like the cops, whatever, If. If a police officer, a federal agent, whoever is giving you a lawful command, which they were, you have to do what they're telling you. You don't have to agree with it. You don't have to like it. If this. Listen, the lady's dead and I hate it. I really hate it. We talk on here all the time about how we're not going to victim shame or whatever, but this is her fault. And I know that doesn't sound very nice, but she did this to herself. We're going to get in the weeds on it in just a second. But if she would have simply obeyed his lawful. He had a lawful reason to be there. He's identified himself by his presence and his uniform. Okay. And she just wouldn't listen to him. You know, it's hard. I was in a very similar situation this one time when I was in an undercover capacity. And I was. It was very, very similar. I chose not to shoot. I could have, and I think I would have been justified. We'll never know. Thankfully, he chose to shoot. Every situation is different. It's not cookie cutter. I will never armchair quarterback. I'm going to follow the letter of the law. I'm going to let the investigation take it where it takes. But. Excuse me. I don't know what's wrong with me tonight. I. As. As a guy who's been in law enforcement for 30 years, they're going to get the benefit of the doubt for me, okay? It's called due process. I think that the left and Tim Walls and all these other people, they've just thrown due process out the window. It's like whatever the court of public opinion says is more important it's like, no, there's constitutional law, there's state law, there's case law, there's all kinds of things. These dhs, FBI, Secret Service, they can make it a little more strict. Like where I'm working, where, where I just retired from in the state of North Carolina, you are allowed to shoot a warning shot. My department said, no, you cannot. So it's. Sometimes it can be even stricter. Dhs, I looked at their website a while ago and I'm sure you did too. It's worded very similar to North Carolina law. It says objectively reasonable. The way we word it is reasonably believe whatever the officer, he or she, agent or officer believes is reasonable. Then. Then they're covered. It's not always pretty. This is going to be certainly not. This isn't. This is certainly some gray. You know, sometimes shoots are pretty obvious that it's a good shoot. Sometimes it's a little gray. I hope this turns out to be a good shoot. I feel really horrible for this person.
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Haley Karenia
Yeah. And I want to talk to you about when it is justified to use deadly force. I think, because I was looking into this and again, I'm not an expert. You're an expert, but I think there is. When you obviously feel like there is an imminent threat that is a reason to justify using deadly force. And then also if a suspect is escaping a scene or something like that. So can you go through when it is justified to use de. Deadly force?
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Scott Bryson
Yeah. So there's case law from 1985. It's called Tennessee versus Gardner. Your people can look it up. It's case law. It's from the Supreme Court. What happened in that case was an officer had responded to a house that had been burglarized. It turns out it was a 15 year old kid who stole like 10 bucks or something like that. This is way back, you know, a long time ago. And I think it happened in the 70s. But the case law came out in 85. But the kid was fleeing and he jumped the fence and the officer shot him in the back to stop him from getting away. Well, case law, the Supreme Court said, look, that's not enough. He's. Yeah, he committed a felony. It turns out the poor kid was 15 years old. Right. But that in and of itself, that's not. He's not fleeing to. He's fleeing to elude arrest. But he's not armed to the terror of the public. He's not got a knife, he's not got a bomb, he's not got a gun. You Know, it has to be reasonable, it has to be imminent, and it has. There has to be a threat of loss of life or like, you don't necessarily have to die, but if a guy's coming at you with a machete or a chainsaw, that's a problem. Especially if he just broke in and did a bunch of crazy stuff, then that's a little bit different. But just to shoot someone in the back, that's a no go. But that's not what happened here. He was looking at her face to face and she made some bad decisions and then he reacted. And let's not forget the poor guy had been dragged down the street previous. And it's like no situation is cookie cutter. And I just find it very appalling that the people who are complaining about this the most probably haven't even never been to a range to shoot at a target, like a piece of paper that's sitting still, much less a moving target that's trying to take you out.
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Haley Karenia
Yeah. And I, I've been seeing a lot of these narratives online, and I'm hoping that you can help me debunk them. Either confirm or debunk them. So some people online were saying, oh, how could ICE do this? She was unarmed. Your take on that?
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Scott Bryson
Well, she was driving a 2,000 pound car. I mean, that's a weapon. I, I do safety videos on this all the time. Like, there's a video. We talked about this on your show a few months ago. There's a video and I'll find it. We'll probably play it for you next week. A police officer was driving down the road I think was in Arizona, and a guy had a rifle. Well, why in the world with the police officer get out of the car and engage a guy with a shoulder weapon with a freaking peashooter when he can run over him with the car? Does it look pretty? No. To the general layperson, that's ugly. It looks terrible. But it was justified, right? Dead is dead. It doesn't matter how you get there. And the problem was the guy was going armed to the terror of the public. So the officer, he definitely thought outside of the box. And I was in the room with a bunch of young officers, and they're like, oh, that was excessive force. I'm like, no. And it turns out it was not. So, you know, when you're taking someone's life, whether it's with, you know, a chokehold, you know, a knife, a gun, a car, it doesn't matter. People just don't know the law and you got a bunch of jailhouse lawyers out there that think they know a bunch of stuff. They don't know anything.
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Haley Karenia
Well, we've got a few more situations or theories for you to debunk here or confirm. So some other people were saying it was the agent's fault because he shouldn't have been standing in front of the vehicle.
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Scott Bryson
Yeah, it's always that. It's always the cop's fault. Right. What. What about the lady, Just do what you're told.
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Haley Karenia
Right.
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Scott Bryson
You know, I know the job that I did as a cop was pulling cars over. I wasn't doing immigration. But when you walk up to the car that is your traffic stop. You are in charge. You're. They don't have to like what you're telling that they have to do. How is that his fault? That's. That's. That's ridiculous.
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Haley Karenia
Yeah, absolutely. Then I also saw people online saying that the agent shouldn't have tried opening the car door. Because in that video, you see the agent approaching the vehicle saying, get out. Get the f out. And then he tries pulling on the car door. Is that protocol?
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Scott Bryson
Yeah, I mean, listen, I don't know what. Yeah, they were conducting a lawful action. I don't know what preempted that. Okay, but how many times have ICE agents recently been ambushed? Cops, too. Right? Like the. Think about the Dallas cops that got. There were five cops that got wiped out back then, the Obama years. Because it's this rhetoric from the left. And I'm not saying everybody on the right is a saint because we're all humans and we all say things we shouldn't say. But the rhetoric is mostly coming from one side of the aisle, and everybody knows it. They're just. Some people aren't honest enough to express that or acknowledge that. But you can only call a person a Nazi so many times a fascist. They're getting spit on. They're having piss thrown on them. There's all kind. How did this guy not know that she was going to ambush him? I mean, there's a million what ifs. And I love being sarcastic, how the left and all these people on the Internet every. The agent should have done this and the agent should have done. No, she should have done what she was told.
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Haley Karenia
Absolutely. Another narrative that's floating around on the Internet is if he had time to draw his firearm, then the agent had time to get out of the way. Is that a valid critique?
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Scott Bryson
I don't think so. Again, I wasn't there. These people that are saying this stuff, again, every Situation is different. I was in a very, very similar situation year 25 years ago. I chose to get out of the way. He may. May not have had an opportunity. I don't know. Was the road slippery? I mean, it looked like it was pretty cold. I mean, there's a lot of what ifs. I think the guy. Listen, we've got to let the investigation run its course. I know that's not what people want to hear, but until you've walked a mile in somebody else's shoes, and, I mean, those are some big shoes to fill, you just keep your opinions to yourselves because you guys just don't know what you're talking. I'm not talking to your crew. I'm talking about these wing.
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Haley Karenia
No, the people on the Internet. This is what we're saying. But this is why in this opportunity, I have the opportunity to speak to an expert. I want you to debunk some of these things because people watching might be on the Internet and seeing these comments and seeing these things, and then, you know, they'll have something to fire back with. But another one, conservative podcaster Lila Rose, on her show suggested that the agent should have attempted to shoot the tire. Is that protocol? What was your reaction to that?
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Scott Bryson
No, listen. No, no offense to her that people watch way too many movies. Okay? We are taught in all law enforcement, and I've been a police officer, a deputy, a federal agent. Okay? You're taught to shoot center mass. You're taught to shoot to stop the threat. You're not taught to shoot to kill. You're not taught to shoot the maim you shooting the tires and all this bull crap. It is so much harder to. It's one thing to shoot piece of paper that's not moving. It's another thing to shoot at some. Something or someone moving. It's totally different. It's unreasonable. And people that are saying that have no. They don't even know what a. They probably don't even know where the trigger is on the gun.
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Haley Karenia
Yeah, and also I wanted. We brought this up earlier in the conversation, and I want to go back to it because Vice President Vance yesterday said that the same agent had been dragged in another incident in June with an illegal immigrant. And he was hurt badly. He needed stitches. He was in the hospital. That incident going through, that could have triggered him in this moment. And I hate using the word trigger because the left overuses it, but in this case, I really do mean it. It could have had a. It could have triggered a panic response in him in this moment. How do law enforcement officers cope with that, with previous experiences, taking that baggage into the job? Like, when are they ready to get back onto the job, and how does that impact them?
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Scott Bryson
Yeah, I like that question. That's a good question. You know, I think people look at police, and I keep saying weeks. I'm still basically in it, but, like. And I always will, but be. But we're not robots. We're human beings, and we have emotions and thoughts. And, like, the one thing that I really thought highly of my colleagues at the Secret Service is we were able to compartmentalize. You know, I worked with friends of mine that were liberal. I'm conservative, but, you know, they did their job to protect Bush or Trump. I did my job to protect Obama. We were very good at compartmentalizing. But guess what? You're pretty much in a sterile environment. It's a little easier to compartmentalize when things are copacetic. It's something a little different when you're being harassed nonstop. You're. You're being talked. I mean, at the end of the day, they're human beings. They. They have counselors. I'm. I'm assuming they have some counselors and things like that and shrinks or whatever to go to. And the guy wouldn't have been brought back to duty unless he had been cleared. But, yeah, at the end of the day, he probably had a little pt, ptsd. Kick it in. And I'm with you on that. I don't like the word triggered, but it is what it is. Right. And if you've been dragged down the road and had 32 or 33 stitches before, why would you not think the same thing is about that? And here's the. Here's the thing, Haley, that people need to realize actions have consequences. But these people on the left, they're okay with. They're okay with Charlie Kirk. You said it a minute ago before I came on. They're okay with certain. Certain narratives. Like Charlie Kirk can get. Can get killed, and that's okay. Right. But. Because what about Ashley Babbitts of the world? She happened to get killed. A white woman got killed by a black man. And there wasn't very much. There wasn't very much talked of. It wasn't talked about very much. So it.
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Haley Karenia
To me, I think the mainstream. If Renee Good ended up killing that ICE officer, they would have had a celebration for this woman. Yeah.
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Scott Bryson
The bottom line is, if it doesn't fit their narrative, they go bonkers. And if it fits their narrative, it's great.
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Haley Karenia
Yeah. And I want to talk to you about, because we talked about this too, but just to extrapolate on it, cops don't go into situations thinking I'm going to kill this person. That is last case scenario, that is worst case scenario. And are they taught de escalation is always the goal? And if that is the case in this situation, was that even an option?
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Scott Bryson
No. I mean, yes, that's the two part answer. So yes, we are taught de escalation. Of course it's called, we call it verbal judo, it's kind of a joke. But there are de escalation things. In fact, yesterday I gave a speech on safety to a bunch of realtors and a lady in the audience had been victimized of a brutal attack in a bathroom. And this other lady said, well, why didn't you try to describe there's a time and a place for talking and there's a time and a place for action. That poor woman that got attacked in the bathroom that I heard about yesterday was fighting for her life. There's, there's no time to talk sometimes, unfortunately. And even if you do try to do the right thing and you keep cooler heads prevail, they're not listening. These people are wound tight and they're looking for 15 minutes of fame. They're looking to make a payday or whatever it is, you know, all this viral stuff. So yes, we are taught to de escalate, but I don't think that was an option for him. I truly don't.
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Haley Karenia
Well, this second angle of the video that was released today, this, I believe this was the camera footage from the agent himself. And this tells the same story, but it sheds light on that story. And let's take a look at this. So there's a dog in the back of the car, she's in the front seat. She says, I'm not mad at you.
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White Liberal Woman
That's okay.
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Haley Karenia
We don't change our plates every morning. And this is her wife speaking. It'll be the same plate when you come talk to us later. That's fine. U. S. Citizen agent walks around, around the car again at us. I said, go get yourself some lunch, big boy.
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Poet/Spoken Word Artist
Go ahead, out of the car, get.
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Haley Karenia
Out of the car, get out of the car. Backs up and accelerates into the agent.
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Social Justice Commentator
Yeah.
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Scott Bryson
So, I mean, I don't, I don't really know why they were interacting with him. I would like to find out. I'm, I'm hoping some more comes out as to why they were there, but you know, to kind of debunk him. Being in front of her car. He came out of his car, walked around in front. They were, they interacted. I mean, you can, the guy, he had no, he had no idea what she was going to do. He wasn't there to kill her. If he was there to kill her, he would have got out of the car shooting him. I mean, the people that say that stuff are just, they've lost all touch with reality. And I think they're just desperate and they don't know what else to say. So they're looking for some type of. I mean, I saw all the clips that you played before I got on, and the people out there that are saying this stuff are completely, they're just lost. I don't, I don't, I don't know what to say to help them.
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Haley Karenia
Yeah. And I think the second angle shed some light on this situation in a way that we couldn't see in the other angles. We see in this video that Renee made eye contact with the officer. She knew that he was in front of her car. She knew that he was adjacent. And we also figure out from this video that her wife was saying, drive, baby, drive. The wife is trying to get into the passenger side and couldn't. And then when she saw the officer go around, she said, drive, baby, drive. So the woman in the front seat, Renee. Good. She was coaxed into doing this by her wife. Can the wife face charges for anything?
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Scott Bryson
Yeah, she should. I definitely think so too. But the, the, we, we're going to reiterate what we said a minute ago. They, they think they can get away with anything and they have been able to get away with a lot of. I mean, the fact that these sanctuary cities and these sanctuary states have basically said we're not going to help ice. I mean, can you imagine. And I know we touched on this one time on your show before, about months ago, about the FBI or the Secret Service. Can you imagine saying we're not going to cooperate with the feds, that. That's not a thing. This is, these are made up fairy tale situations that have, for whatever reason grown some legs and people, people have been been emboldened because just like over here next to where I live in Charlotte, North Carolina, it's getting pretty rough over there because the DA's don't do their job and it's a trickle down effect. And, and these public officials, like Walls or whoever, they, they, they're just, they're letting these criminals run the cities and it's, they're running amok. And you get what you pay for. And I know it. That's not a very nice way to say it, but it is what it is. And we, these people just don't fear consequences. There was a time, you know, when I was growing up that if a, if a police officer walked up to your car, it was like, yes sir and no ma' am and all these things. Now they're trying to run over you and they think it's okay. They literally think it's okay. That's the problem. It's a mindset.
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Haley Karenia
It is. Scott, thank you for being here and thank you for all of your insight. This story is certainly not going away. So we're going to have you on standby in the next big break. In this case, we're going to have you on and we'll have you break it down. So thank you. I appreciate you.
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Scott Bryson
Thanks for having me.
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Haley Karenia
And that is Scott Bryson, former Secret Service Agent Silverlock contributor and you can follow his podcast Scott Bryson. He is BTS Scott Bryson, BTS on social media. That is Scott Bryson beyond the Service for the beyond the Service podcast. So make sure that you follow him anywhere. Great, great safety tips as you all know, if you watch this show. So we thank him for coming on. And let's get into scrolling time foreign. This first video, I'm actually when I play this, I want your takes on it first. Andy and Justin are in here tonight and I want your take on it first. So everyone watch this video. This is a husband doing some after curricular activities after his 9 to 5. And he's filming it. Watch this. It says my 5 to 9. After my 9 to 55 ot 502pm he heads out. 5:30, he's home from work, he's saying hi to his dogs, his girlfriend or wife makes him din, he eats and then he leaves for pickleball. This is 5:30pm 6pm pickleball. After he plays pickleball, he heads home, says hello to the dogs, says goodbye to the dogs, goes to play basketball. So this is 8:15pm he's playing basketball. 9:00pm he's heading home. You'd think maybe it's time to. Oh no. This is another workout. Third workout of the night. It's 10pm now he's making himself a midnight snack, a little dessert. It's him and his sports and the dogs against the world. The wife is just there to make him dinner throughout all of it. What's your take on this before I give you mine?
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Justin
I mean other than the, other than the fact that it's probably Fake. Because who the hell is going to the two, three different locations to work out? I got no problem with it if it's like once a week, right?
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Haley Karenia
Okay. But then it's like this, to me, seems like this is a guy that's pretty serious about his. This is like a middle schooler getting shipped around after, after school. It's like you got all your after school activities. Like you've got your soccer game and then you've got this practice and then you've got this, like, it's very juvenile to me. People in the chat said, self, self centered or addicted to working out. Someone said, if the wife is okay with it, who cares? Someone said, who's filming him? His gay boyfriend maybe?
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Andy
Give this guy, give this guy 10 years and then when he gets home he's going to want to sit down and watch a football game.
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Scott Bryson
Yeah, give him 10 years.
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Andy
Have at it, bud.
- [45:53]
Scott Bryson
Go play your pickleball.
- [45:54]
Andy
Yeah, seriously, he's still at a, he looks, he looks 17.
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Haley Karenia
Someone in the chat also said, why get married? And I'm not going to necessarily go there, but I would say I think it's important to spend time with your significant other aside from her just handing you dinner so that you can go hang out with your dogs and your friends and your sports all night. I do think that that's important. But again, this is just social media. We don't know the full story. They might have a lovely relationship and spend all the time in the world. And maybe this is, to Justin's point, the one night of the week where he goes out and gets all the steam out.
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Justin
If it's one night of the week, I mean, that's awesome. I would kill to have a weekly, whatever sport with the guys. Like that would be. That's, that's a great time.
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Haley Karenia
Yeah, I agree. And I think too, as much as quality time with your, your person is important, also having hobbies that are separate from your relationship, also very important. So I would say so long as this is not every night, very healthy. I am all for having your own friends, your own friend groups, your own hobbies, your own, you know, your own life aside from your relationship. You should be your own person. So I'm 50, 50 on it. He's all right in my book. Andy, what was your take on it?
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Andy
Yeah, I just think as he gets older, this ain't going to happen. So like, you know.
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Scott Bryson
Well, of course not.
- [47:12]
Justin
That's why you take advantage of it now.
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Andy
What I, I mean, someone in the.
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Haley Karenia
Chat said it's AI I don't think it's a I, but it could be. All right, this next video. I've been wanting to play these last two videos all week long and we just haven't gotten to them. So I just want to get them over with and play them, but all week. And sometimes this happens, you guys, we. We plan out videos for the show and then, you know, I skip over it or we lose, we run out of time or whatever. And. And then it's like we were going to play this on Monday and now it's Friday. But let's. Let's do it. So this is what, this woman lives in a apartment in la and she pays. Actually, I'll throw it out to the chat. How much do you think that this woman pays in rent a month in la? And this is what she has to deal with. Listen.
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White Liberal Woman
Die.
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Haley Karenia
If you couldn't hear the video, that's exactly what it sounded like. Just some crack addict screaming. But people in the chat are guessing. 10,0002-0400-3000-3000, 6000, 4000, 1900. Oh, that would be very cheap in LA. 11,000. 4000. 3000 is the answer. In the video it says, this is what 3000 in LA sounds like. And it's just a dang shame. It's a dang shame that rent is. First of all, rent is too damn high. But also the fact that people are paying a pretty penny to live in these deep blue hell holes and. And then they have these crack addicts in the street. They're getting punched in the street there. It's no way to live. It is no way to live. Also no way to live. This is in St. Louis. And this is what it sounded like at midnight on New Year's Eve. Listen to this. Happy New Year. Happy new year. New year. Bang, bang.
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Justin
Happy new year's.
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Haley Karenia
St. Louis. Really. Listen, on New Year's Eve, I like the little poppers. And I'm all for making noise at midnight. I'm all for making noise. They've got little streamers that go beep, you know, they've got little, like, sound makers that you can use one of those instead of a pew, pew. And making those noises. Could you imagine raising a family in St. Louis? And you put your kids to bed and they're sleeping because it's midnight, and then they wake up to pop, pop, bang, bang, and. And it's like a Call of Duty in real life.
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Andy
I thought this guy was in Juarez or like, you know, Tijuana crazy. Like that's an episode of Narcos.
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Haley Karenia
I know it's right.
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Justin
Are we assuming this is like Wild west, they're shooting it in the air, or is this a street fight? Is this turf?
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Haley Karenia
Oh, I think they're shooting in the air like it's midnight. People will think it's fireworks. Let me go pop my enemy off. Because this is like, you know how they. Crime in Chicago is really bad on the 4th of July. It's because they think that their gunshots will be masked by the sounds of the fireworks.
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Justin
So it is offensive. It's not celebratory.
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Haley Karenia
I don't think they're like, woo, 20, 26, Justin.
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Andy
That's $1,000 of AR that just got shot in the air on duty.
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Justin
I mean, fireworks are expensive too.
- [51:03]
Andy
So, yeah, that's probably cheaper than. Yeah, cheaper than fireworks.
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Haley Karenia
Yeah. Someone in the chat said, that's a lot of ammo. And what must. What goes up must come down, which is also very scary for the people who live in St. Louis, so. And again, when. When Donald Trump wanted to send the National Guard into all these cities, the left said, no, we don't do that. That's unnecessary. We don't need that. And it turns out it is quite necessary. All right, this next video is a. Basically Mario Kart in real life, but this is in Vietnam. And you'll see very shortly when we play this video why this is not in the United States of America. This is. This is an abroad activity. Watch this. Okay. There are just people getting absolutely run over by these cars. It's like, go karts. And they're getting. Their shoe fell off. I mean, his shoes. I think both of his shoes fell off. This guy's getting dragged. This guy's heading into the tree. This couple's. Oh, I don't know what happened to him. We hope he's okay. Oh, is that person alive? I. I don't know. I just don't know. I. I will point out. The sign on the tree says, stay away from me. That's the warning sign on the tree. Stay away from me. People say in the chat, this looks.
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Justin
This looks like a fantastic time.
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Haley Karenia
I actually would not be interested in doing this at. I mean, I'm not doing it in.
- [52:40]
Justin
Like, shorts and short sleeves and with my purse in my lap, like I.
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Scott Bryson
Saw one lady doing, but with the.
- [52:45]
Justin
Proper, I don't know, elbow pads.
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Haley Karenia
If you had elbow pads and a helmet on, and they do have helmets on, I would.
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Andy
I would have to look like a medieval knight riding in one of those. I mean, that guy's foot went with the shoe, Haley. Like, there's no possible way I'm getting in that thing at all. I mean, bones, once you get hit 38 years old, Bones start breaking faster. I mean, there's no way the dude we saw in that video earlier, 10 o' clock at night, he can get on one of these.
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Governor Tim Walls
He can.
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Haley Karenia
Fourth activity. The world out.
- [53:17]
Justin
Damn lawyers, man. He's like fun killers in America.
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Haley Karenia
I need another activity so that I don't have to go home to my. My doting, loving wife to find something else to do.
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Andy
There's a documentary.
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Haley Karenia
Throw myself off a cliff in Vietnam.
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Andy
There's a documentary you need to watch called Class Action park, about a theme park in the 80s that was in New Jersey. And they had this kind of thing all summer long in the 80s, and it was the 80s, so they got rid of it. But, like, people died in the park every year and they never shut it down because of stuff like.
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Haley Karenia
Well, people joked that this certainly could not exist in the United States of America because there would be. Ambulance chaser attorney is just like out the. Out the.
- [53:59]
Justin
The waiver at the front door, signing your will.
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Haley Karenia
Yeah, it would be super long. Yeah. So, you know, it's not an American activity, but that's all right. Last video that we have for you is. Well, it needs no introduction. Watch this.
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Poet/Spoken Word Artist
Hillary Crooked Kamala.
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Haley Karenia
She turned me into a chip. You need to dip and eat me. You need to put me out of my misery. It's not fun being a tortilla chip. No, sir. This is like when people think they see Jesus Christ in their cereal or in their toast or in their. Like, they think that they. But this really does look like Donald J. Trump.
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Justin
How much did he then sell it for on ebay?
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Haley Karenia
He could. He could totally sell it. He could totally sell it. Do we think he ate it? I think with a little queso on top for Donald Trump's hair. Missed opportunity, Missed opportunity. And even better if it was a Dorito.
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Andy
A little more orange.
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Haley Karenia
Yeah, even better. Even better. Now, I'm going to be determined the next time I eat Doritos, which is going to be in three months, I'll try to eat it into the shape of Donald Trump and I'll get back to you. All right, I do have a few minutes left, and I have some questions. I try to do this once a week. Sometimes I forget or we run out of time, but I do have some questions on my Instagram story that I'm going to answer. Some of the ones. Some of the questions are really dumb. But I'm going to get into the good ones. Someone said, how do you show prep? I am on my phone and interesting. It's an extraordinary amount of time. It's sometimes 14 hours a day, sometimes it's 17 hours a day. So I'm never really not working. I'm always trying to get content and I'm always on my phone. So whenever I'm scrolling on my phone, I'm saving things. I save things into different folders on each app. So I've got folders on TikTok, folders on Instagram, folders on X, and I save videos that I want to discuss, articles that I want to discuss, things like that. Then day of, I read all the different news outlets, even the liberal ones, even the horrible ones. I'm. I'm all over the place. And then I pick, you know, what is the main story of the day, and I go from most important story and then we have some more fun at the end of the night, right? So I kind of try to structure it that way, where the most important breaking news stories are off the top. And then, you know, if people don't want to stay for the fun, they don't have to. But that's why I structure it that way. And yeah, I just, I end up putting it together and trying to make a show flow, going from one story to another. So that's really what it is. It takes me about probably six, six plus hours of me putting it together and doing the research and all that. So that doesn't include the scrolling time, but I would say six hours of, like, research and reading and writing and on all that. So I get my thoughts together. But that's my show prep process. Favorite thing about the job, I love being informed. I've always loved that about working in news. Not just this job specifically, but just working in this industry. I love being in the know. My friends always text me, like, what do you think about this? And like, can you explain this to me? Like, can you explain this to me? Like, I'm five and I love doing that for people. So I feel like I get to do that every day. Someone asked me, would you ever try Somalian food? It's not on my bucket list. I can tell you that I'm not really interested in that. No. Someone asked me, have you ever been arrested? Also, no. Have you restarted your pushup routine? Uh, you might not know. I've been trying to do more than ten pushups. Um, and I've kind of fallen off the wagon because Now I'm doing 75 hard. So I have some other workout routines and goals that I'm trying to hit. So push ups are on hiatus right now. I'm trying to do, trying to burn more calories and kind of increase my endurance. Doing cardio because I'm doing a cardio exercise every day in addition to the workout. So anyway, what do you miss most about Long Island? Gotta be my friends and family. Also pizza and bagels. I will say the pizza and bagels are better here than they were in Nashville because there are a lot of New Yorkers that come down here. But I do miss those things.
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Justin
There's some bagel company around us that trucks water down from New York.
- [58:24]
Haley Karenia
Exactly.
- [58:25]
Justin
To make their bagels.
- [58:26]
Haley Karenia
Which is it?
- [58:27]
Justin
I. I don't know the name, but I've heard the story. Okay, so I'll get back to you on that.
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Haley Karenia
That's good. Yeah, there's a place that did that in Nashville for pizza and it was pretty good. It was the best pizza that I had had down there. So it's the water. Someone asked me what advice to would you give to my 18 year old daughter who wants to get into the sports media world? And then I also got another question. How did you get into what you do? I'm studying to be a news anchor and I want to do more. So I'm kind of lumping my advice in for both of those questions. Hands down, you need experience. Hands on experience is really all that matters. Your classes in school, you know, that's all well and good. Get good grades, study, work hard, graduate. Right. But hands on experience is really the only thing that you're going to use in the real world. I think I really only used one or two classes that I ever took in college that I applied to my real job or any of my real jobs. So just keep that in mind. Internships. Get as many as you can. I think I had four internships, four or five internships and I started sophomore year of college. So start, start. You can never start too early. Stack your schedules that you can make it work. Don't be afraid of hard work. Work late, work early. Work when you don't want to, work when you don't feel like it. Work when your friends are partying and you want to be there, but you know it's not going to get you closer to your goal. Doesn't matter if the internships are unpaid. Get coffee with as many people in the industry in your area that you can find. Reach out to them on LinkedIn. Reach out to them on Instagram work. Reach out to the networks that you ideally want to work at. And I would say be persistent. Be persistent but not annoying. Also advice. This is not really on how to get into the industry. But never ask the same question twice. When you ask people for advice, have a notebook, not your phone, a notebook. Take notes so that you never have to ask someone the same question twice. It's rude. And also send handwritten thank you notes. So those are my advice pieces of advice for young people getting into the industry. And on that note, happy Friday. Thank you for joining me. You can follow me on social media aileycarania and I honestly, I really like giving advice. So Justin was saying we should do an advice segment at the end of the show.
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Justin
Maybe the end of the week newspaper column.
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Haley Karenia
I like it so. And especially in this industry too.
- [60:49]
Justin
So send somebody your very thought out questions and we'll get them on the show.
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Haley Karenia
Alrighty. Sounds good. See you Monday. Bye. Sam.