
In this episode of Scrolling: I interview Jeffrey Epstein - but not the one you're thinking of. Based in Portland, Oregon, comedian Jeff Epstein embraces his shared birth name with the notorious criminal, adding an extra layer of intrigue to his personal brand of comedy.
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Haley Karania
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Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
Hi there.
Haley Karania
Thank you so much for joining me. I, I saw you on TikTok. This is my show. It's really stemming from my TikTok addiction. I scroll more than the average person scrolls and I definitely have quite the addiction and I love when I find people on TikTok and I can have them on the show. So I was immediately, my attention was grabbed when I saw your bits, your comedy bits about your name, which we're going to get into the comedy in just a second. But your name is Jeffrey Epstein. Do you, I'm assuming you go by Jeff now and is this a family name? How did, how did this all come about?
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
I do go by Jeff. I've actually always really gone by Jeff. But my legal name is Jeffrey. That's what it is on my, you know, driver's license and all. And obviously when you, you know, when you use it in official like documents or airline tickets, I mean that's how it reads. Jeffrey. I mean that was, you know, my parents, my dad's name, you know, I mean it, I do a joke about. It actually wasn't, you know, my grandparents immigrated like a lot of, you know, you know, people like in the early 20th century through Ellis island and they didn't speak the language very well and they just picked that name. They thought it was just a, it wasn't even their name. So we, you know, they didn't speak the language well and somehow Epstein became the name. So it wasn't really even the name. But you know, I mean, it was a pretty common name. I mean, in the U.S. i mean I even grew up with, I mean I live on the west coast but I grew up in the New York area and there were other Jeffrey Epstein's around, you know.
Haley Karania
Yeah, I'm from Long island so I, I've grown up with Epstein's and went to school with some. So. Yeah, I can see how this, especially if you're from the New York area, this, it could happen, obviously.
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
Yeah, I mean I grew up on Long island too. And you know, there was another Jeffrey Epstein spells name differently in my town. And then I went, went to college in Pennsylvania and there was a Jeffrey Epstein. Yeah. So it was common.
Haley Karania
Have you reconnected with these Jeffrey Epstein since?
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
I mean, no, but you know, in the time, you know, since I got online doing comedy, I've heard from a few that I didn't know, you know, and I mean, there's humor in that too. Like, you know, forming a support group and that. Kids for group, you know. You know, you should do a meetup. Yeah, yeah. I mean, yes, we'll pick a mountain destination and not an island.
Haley Karania
Yeah, no islands. But maybe if you just pick a bar or something, you could do a meetup of all.
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
Yeah, no, no name.
Haley Karania
That is so funny. So when did you realize that this was an issue for you? When did you realize, oh, there's me, Jeffrey Epstein, there's the Jeffrey Epstein's that I knew growing up and then there's the Jeffrey Epstein, where there's the financier and the pedophile. And when did you realize, oh my gosh, I'm sharing this name with this wealthy guy and now he's in trouble. When did that start, Start coming about?
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
Well, I mean, I knew of him, you know, long before most. Because when you share a name with someone that is mentioned in like some, like he was mentioned in the Wall Street Journal back when he was originally charged, probably back in, oh, 708 09. So I kind of knew there was a dude with the same name, was supposedly wealthy and powerful, who was in trouble. So I was, he was on my radar. I just didn't know like, you know, it wasn't like at that time it was brushed over. It wasn't really that, that deep, you know, so I was aware of him. And then when it started coming back to light, around 20, 17, 18 probably 18, I guess, you know, and then I didn't like that. I was like, oh, you know, I don't know if I can curse on this podcast, but I do it all the time. Yeah, I mean, I was like, oh shit, this is not good. So, yeah, and then, you know, and unlike most news, it just won't go away. I mean, even back and you know, before he killed himself. So, yeah, I mean, and I wasn't like, I didn't know how to like, I didn't love it. I'd tell you that, you know, it was only later on when I started finding some humor in all of it and, and the awkward reality, you know, of sharing the name and, and, and, you know, and I mean, I wasn't a comedian back then. I, I started Comedy post Covid. You know, and one of the reasons was because the name, I mean, I always wanted to do comedy anyway. And then I think the name just gave me a, a whole new like, kind of motivation. Like, okay, find a way to be tasteful and find humor in your awkward, you know, and unfortunate reality without being dark about it. And, and you know, you know, and, and so, you know, I found a way to make lemonade out of the lemons, if you will.
Haley Karania
Yeah.
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
Not everyone's a fan, but that's like everything. I mean, you know, I mean I, I, I navigate, I carry myself, you know, with, with, you know, try to manage it with sensitiveness and not make light of, you know, the crimes or, you know, the behaviors and just focus on just being a little self deprecating and silly about my, you know, what I navigate.
Haley Karania
Yeah. So what was your family and friends response? Because this is how you feel personally about your name being Jeffrey Epstein. Did anyone in your family say, oh, I'm so sorry or, or what was the reaction?
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
I read I'm not from the family. I mean, I mean a lot of people that knew me didn't even make, didn't even put it together at first because they just knew me as like Jeff, you know, and I'm sure it came up. I mean, it's more when you meet new people, you know, they'll either it'll be the elephant in the room that they won't say, or they'll be like up front they'll be like, okay, that's unfortunate. You know, so. Yeah, I mean, not with family. I mean, I, I don't, you know, I mean, I'll joke about it like, you know, but it, it's, I'll make up stuff for my comedy but you know, about my parents, you know, feeling so guilty that they reinstated my allowance and stuff like that, but that's just made up stuff, you know, you know, or dead relevant is reaching out to me to apologize. You know, in my dream, it, but that's, again, that's finding a way to be silly about, you know.
Haley Karania
Right.
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
My side of it without going to the stupid, you know, you know, notorious stuff that really happened.
Haley Karania
What's the reaction, what's the reaction when you have to show your ID to TSA or at the liquor store if you're going to buy some beer or some wine or something? I mean, do people look at your ID and say, and then you do a double take?
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
That's a great question. Yes. I mean, it, it, it totally happens. I mean, some people you know, or if it's a job, look at ideas. They're not, you know, some of them are just unconscious when they're doing it. You know, just looking at a date of birth. But, you know, at tsa, I've had some interesting interactions. Funny. I mean, not like, you know, but I. I mean, I've had a few that, you know, that have said, okay, I feel this is. This is. This must be rough, you know, or I'll just nod or. Or you can see that there's a little bit of a, you know, a hesitation. Yeah. Like, oh, that's. That's, you know, I mean, I'm sure. I mean, there's, you know, when you call and I have to say my name, you know, I mean, obviously, sometimes I'm sure, you know, people, like, depending upon the context, you know, you hope they don't think it's a prank or something.
Haley Karania
Right.
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
You know, I had. I did get pulled over by a police officer once, and I joke about it in my material, and he looked at my license. He's like, are you kidding me? You know, reaction, you know, so, you know, I mean, it's. But again, because I have the comedy now, I kind of have an outlet for a lot of that, that, you know, those interactions. Okay. Was there something humorous in that? You know, whereas before I didn't have it and, you know, you know, some. I'm way more at peace with it just because I found a way to, you know, embrace it and kind of lean into it. Yeah, but, I mean, you don't always know. Like, I'm. I. I have a business as well, where I have to reach out to people cold. And I had a client point out to me, like, do you realize this is a few years ago? Do you realize that you're sending me an email with the name Jeffrey Epstein in your head? Like in your, you know, your signature or your. Your heading.
Haley Karania
Right.
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
You know, or calling, you know, know. And it kind of hit me, like, it's kind of. Right. It's like, you know, if you were on the receiving end of that, you know, are you taking serious? But then again, who would make that up?
Haley Karania
You know, so would make that up. But then again, do you think that it's hurting your business? I feel like if I got an email from Jeffrey Epstein, I would definitely. Well, it might get people's attention, but I don't know if you're going to get it.
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
Yeah. Not in a good way. I mean. And again, I joke about that. I found the way, you know, just because Imagine you have a dude named Jeffrey Epstein, you know, you know, reaching out to you. I mean, it, you know, in the nature of the work I do, you know, requires. Requires trust and, And. And belief, you know, credibility. I'm sure I will. I'm sure this business I don't get because of it. If I had a partner, I'd probably use their name, you know, but. And, but, you know, some of me just doesn't care. I mean, I mean, not. Not that I don't care, but, you know, it's just. I've kind of just accepted, you know, okay, I mean, sure, I could have changed my name. I could have gone into, you know, you know, even with comedy, I mean, I could have, like, not used my name.
Haley Karania
Right.
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
And. And still been relatively or fairly funny. It wouldn't have been that interesting, though, and wouldn't have been that, you know, authentic for me.
Haley Karania
Right.
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
So, yeah, I'm sure that there's. I mean, I have a lot of comedy bookings I don't get because of my name. I mean, I've had bookers that don't know me. Like, in my scene, I'm. I'm known to be just a good, you know, member of the community out here in the Portland area, you know, I mean, you know, in the comedy scene. But if I reach out to someone in, like, in another place, you know, even locally, I mean, do they want to have the name Jeffrey Epstein listed on. On their show poster, on their lineup? Because the original. A lot of people will see that and like, wait, why did someone being. I think this is a prank of being. So for every opportunity I get because of my name, I'm sure there's one or two I don't get. Yeah, but okay, that's what I signed up for.
Haley Karania
Right. You know, did you ever consider changing your name? Even for a second? Was there a negative interaction that made you think, oh, I don't know if this is worth it. I mean, maybe I should go in a different direction?
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
I mean, if there was, I don't remember it, you know, I'm sure, you know, we're talking eight years now of this, you know, with some intensity, probably since 2018, you know, so after a while, you just kind of, you know. But even if, like, yeah, no, I know. I don't think I ever thought. I mean, people said, hey, use your middle name. I don't know. I don't think I ever really, seriously,
Haley Karania
you know, really change it.
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
Not like, even when. Even when I started comedy, there were some communities like, no, you can't use your name. I'm like, well, okay, but. All right, Seinfeld, thank you for the advice. I mean, I, you know, I, I don't, you know, I don't think I ever seriously considered it, you know, and, and, But I also don't think I really grasp, like, how long this, like, situation would just live.
Haley Karania
Right.
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
You know, most news cycles, you know, I mean, it, it, it, it comes
Beth Pratt
and goes, comes and goes.
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
The world moves on. You know, maybe it comes back a little bit. This never went away. And actually the intensity of it really kept picking up, particularly in the last year.
Haley Karania
Right.
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
I mean, so as a comedian, I guess you could argue it's good for business just because it's given me relevance. But, you know, whatever. I earned that. I earned that by navigating, you know, the unluckiness of having the name and finding a way to, you know, kind of, you know, be. Just find humor and taste in all of it.
Haley Karania
Did you ever follow the conspiracy. Conspiracy theories? Because there are some theorists out there that think that Jeffrey Epstein never died. And if you ever come into contact with those people, I mean, they might be convinced that you really are him.
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
I don't know if you've looked at. So, I mean, what you. My Tick Tock and my Instagram, I only started those accounts, like, literally less than four months ago. Okay, so, you know, so what you saw, I wasn't. So I've done comedy a little under four years. First three and a half years, I did not post content on social media. I had a personal account. If I had a show locally, I'd post it to people that knew me or, you know, would know about it. I didn't want to deal with it, all right? And then finally, my daughter, you know, who's you know, in her 20s and has also, you know, has a career in entertainment, said, dad, I think it's time we get you on social media. You know, because if, Even if I wanted to get booked for festivals or for clubs in other cities, they look at your socials and if you don't have them, even if you're funny, you know, so I, So I finally set it up. And the thing is that it missed immediately, almost blew up pretty well for someone that was unknown. But the comments, I mean, if I wasn't familiar with the conspiracy theories, I sure am now. You know, just from all the comments, people like, no, you know, this is, this is him. He just got, you know, plastic surgery or, you know, you see, I didn't ask or something. Yeah, you Know or you know, how I look like him, you know, and some of them are funny actually, that gave me material. Just reading some of the tick tock comments we. The ones that aren't hateful, you know, or idiotic, but some of them are funny. But you know, you get all the conspiracy theorists, you know, commenting some of them as facetiously, which is fine. I mean, again, that's what I signed up for and I, I leave it, you know, I mean, I was aware because I follow, I made it a point to follow the news, you know, like whatever. Like, you know, there was some new piece of information out there or some new accusation. I, I read it because I kind of was curious, you know, and I mean it's wild. I mean it's just. And it's gotten wilder over time. So. Yeah, I mean, I'm aware of it. And you know, all the questions, questioning of did he kill himself and the jail cell and who did he work for and you know, I mean it's.
Haley Karania
Have you made your own conclusions about what you think might have happened?
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
No, but I mean, I think it's pretty clear that he was a professional blackmailer. I mean, I really think that that was what he traded on and that's probably how he got so wealthy. I mean. Yeah, do I know. I don't know any more than you and probably no less than you. You're, you're. But, you know, but I mean just looking at all the people that paid him money and, and how his wealth is just so. Or was so like not really well understood how he got it. You know, I, I just think that, you know, that was as far as all the intelligence stuff. Who, I mean, who knows? I mean it's whether he killed himself or whether someone wanted him dead.
Haley Karania
Yeah, Lots of unknowns and you know, your guess is as good as mine and everyone else's. And uh, certainly you have made a career out of, you know, you've made lemonade out of lemons and you've got a huge social media following now. What, I mean, what are your followers at on TikTok? Because I followed you a little while ago, but I feel like it's exploded since then.
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
Well, TikTok was the first. That's what my daughter helped me set up. And we weren't going to do Instagram, but then someone took my TikTok and moved it to Instagram and set up Instagram and the tick tock that about 80k or 82k. You know, it goes in ways, you know, and then Instagram has Been, you know, probably somewhere between 60 and 65K, which, you know, for someone that didn't have a following three or four months ago, it's, it's, it's all relative, it's all contextual, you know, but I didn't do, I think that I, I didn't do the social media to be famous for sharing the same name. Yeah, I did it because as a comedian, you know, and it's not my day job, but, you know, I'm good enough to be booked at clubs around the country, you know, as an opener or feature. I just wanted better comedy opportunities. I wanted to, I didn't want to be invisible, you know, I wanted to have the tools and not be asked, you know, if I'm, if I'm applying for a festival or trying to get booked at a nice club in, you know, Austin, Texas, you know, I just wanted to have the tools to say, yeah, I have social meeting. Yeah, I have decent following. Yeah, it's been validated, you know. Yeah, there's stuff out there that people are liking and sharing and commenting on. I mean, it'd be easier for me to just fly under the radar, honestly, you know, and do my business and, you know, take care, you know, enjoy my life. But I mean, I've had this desire to do comedy and I want to do it, I want to do it. Well, yeah, and part of that, part of it means you have to get attention and you have to promote yourself. So.
Haley Karania
Yeah, yeah. And you're based in Portland, right? I didn't know that people laughed at jokes out there. But maybe people are highly offended. Maybe you just see the highly offended people on social media. But what is it like being Jeff Epstein, the comedian in Portland?
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
I mean, it's. You make an interesting observation. And I live outside of Portland now. I was in Portland and I moved across the river, you know, for a variety of reasons, some financial, some ideological, you know, some practical. But you know, look, I'm not edgy, so I, and I'm relatively clean, so I don't offend people once I'm on stage and once people figure out I do better in the suburbs, I do better with, you know, a more middle of the road audience. But I'll do fine. I mean, as long as I'm not saying anything that's going to, you know, trigger, you know, the, the, the types of things that trigger them, you know. But yeah, I mean, it's interesting you comment that because comedy scenes vary from city to city in terms of what, what they self police and what's going to do well and hit well and the type of personality that's going to hit well. And I'm not, I mean, Poland has a nice comedy scene and, and I treat people really well. So I'm, I'm well liked here, here, but I'm not well embraced in terms of, you know, I, I get better opportunities when I leave Portland.
Haley Karania
Interesting.
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
And you know, maybe some of that's the thing. You start in, you know, you're not, you know, people always view you as a newcomer and then you go somewhere else. I mean, it's, it's not. And Seattle similar. I mean, it's, it's, at least in the city, it's similar ideological, you know, attitudes and, and.
Haley Karania
Right.
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
But if you're, But I know comedians that are just really good at reading the room and really good at knowing where they are and knowing how to adjust their set accordingly because you're trying to entertain people. You know, I produce a show in an affluent suburb of Portland once a month and I have, you know, I have some guidelines for my comedians. First, I procure comedians that I know are going to fit that demographic because it's a much more middle of the road demographic with politics actually all over the map. You have super liberal down there, you have super conservative, and you have a lot in the middle. But I make sure that my comedians know, look, I want people to have an hour and a half of an escape or reprieve from whatever it is that is going on in the world, whatever it is they're doing within their life. I want them to walk out happy and not triggered. And part of that is making sure I procure people to have the versatility to do that. Part of it is I just make it known, look, this is who the customers are. You know, let's entertain them. You know, even for me, I mean, I just want to. It's so easy to get caught in. I mean, I. There's a lot of attitudes in the Portland comedy scene that I don't agree with. I mean, because there's a lot of ideologies. But I keep my mouth shut because I'm not doing comedy to get into these, you know, pissing matches about. I'm really doing it to have a creative expression and, and, and to also be kind to people and, and not be kind, but, but be a good member of this community because, you know, I mean, it's not authentic. It's not who I am. It's to be antagonistic to people. Although if I really said, if I really said what I thought about things that are done here or you know, some of the things I see posted on Facebook because I have to be part of the Facebook, you know, Portland comedy group. I mean, I really have to zip my mouth because otherwise I'll be, you know, cancel, run out, run out of town, you know. And I mean it's. But that's also me understanding what I'm trying to do. I mean I'm not, I'm just trying to, you know, make people laugh. You know, I'm not trying, I'm not trying to offend people. And I really, with my name, I can't be. That doesn't, it just doesn't work. You know, I'm also Gen X. I joke, you know, when I'm not talking about my name, I'm joking about other more Gen X type things, you know, colonoscopies, retirement planning, you know, where I would have some, you know, viewpoint that would make sense coming out of my mouth, you know.
Haley Karania
Right. No, it makes total sense. And I love that you're, you know, unafraid and you're, you're embracing this and you're making a career out of it that you're happy with and it's a creative outlet for you. So this is awesome. I love following you on social media. I think the bits are great. So before we go, plug your social media and plug. If you have any share shows coming up, especially if you're here in South Florida, we would love to come support you. So where can people find it?
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
Where in South Florida are you?
Haley Karania
We're just around Jupiter.
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
Jupiter. Well, okay, so I go there every two months because my, my 95 year old dad lives and he lives in Palm Beach County. He lives, you know, he lives in Boynton Beach.
Haley Karania
Okay.
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
I've been trying to, I'm actually been trying to get a booking or two down there. Usually I just go to visit him. I don't have anything to promote down there yet though, so. But my social media on Instagram is not the real Jeffrey E. With underscores in between each word. And on TikTok it's also not the real Jeffrey D with no underscore. And show wise I have some shows out here in Oregon if anyone's out here if you dare have any viewers that live in.
Haley Karania
I've got viewers from all over.
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
So yeah, I'm joking with you. I mean it's. But I have a show Saturday night out in McMinnville, Oregon, which is wine country at the Hotel Oregon. I'm on. And on Monday Night is this great show here in Portland called Left Basement at the Good Foot Lounge, which I'm on. So those are two upcoming ones locally that if anyone's around, they should be good shows and really good lineup of comedians in addition to me.
Haley Karania
Awesome. Well, Jeffrey Epstein, thank you for joining Scrolling with Haley. This has been an awesome conversation. I've had fun and I hope when you have a show in South Florida, I'll be there.
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
I hope so too. Yeah. Well, thank you. Thank you for having me.
Haley Karania
Of course. Thank you so much. I hope you all in the chat. Loved this episode with Jeffrey Epstein. I just saw him on social media and I thought, I have to have him on. I have to have him on. So I thought that that was cool. I have a few more stories that I want to get to before we're doing a March Madness bracket today and then we're going to do some blind reactions and I have some questions from social media. So we're doing a fun episode today. We have to talk about this wildlife bridge that they're trying to put together in California. They're not really. They're not really doing it, but California, of course, in Newsom's California, they sure know how to spend money. I don't know where they're finding it, but they sure know how to spend it. And they don't know. They don't really spend it wisely either. So in California, they are trying to put together this wildlife bridge so that wildlife can cross the highway without getting hurt, without getting killed. I understand that there is a. There is a need for that. This has been successful in other places, so I totally understand that. Do we have the video of what this wildlife bridge is looking like right now?
Justin
We do indeed.
Haley Karania
Let's. Let's hit it. So you could see this. Is this the rendering? You can toodle along underneath here. And then you've got the wildlife bridge, which is not completed at the moment. But hopefully one day, maybe one day it'll be completed. But the whole purpose is so that the animals can go from one side to the other side safely. And they were able to do this similar thing in Colorado for $15 million. Okay, so you're thinking $15 million. How much is it going to cost doing the same thing in California? Well, when this whole thing was launched in 2023, Gavin Newsom said this will be around $50 million. So it's 15 somewhere else. It's 50 in California. I can understand it being maybe a little more expensive in California. Most things are right. They are up to $114 million. Now they are $114 million in the hole. How did we get here? How did that happen? How did we get here? How did we go from 50 million to oh, oh, oh, oh? 114 million. And it's nowhere near being done, by the way. We're near being done. So the sky's the limit, I guess. And here is the woman, Beth, Beth, Beth Pratt, I believe her name is, and she's in charge of this. She's got no construction experience, but she's a vegan tree hugger type. And here she is asking for more money. Watch.
Beth Pratt
When we started stage one and we're waiting to start stage two, the world changed beneath us though. This spring, construction costs increased considerably. And although we were holding reserves to finish construction, all those are exhausted at this point because of tariffs, inflation, and so many other factors impacting construction projects, not just ours. So we need your help one more time to get us to the finish line and help us build back those reserves so that we can ensure that we finalize construction by November so we can all cut that ribbon together. What a moment that will be. And like you, I can't wait to see that first mountain lion cross. The promise to 2022 will be fulfilled and the Santa Monica Mountain Wildlife will have a future because of all of it.
Haley Karania
Butterflies.
Beth Pratt
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Haley Karania
All right, everyone, open your wallets. Open your. Open your wallets, open your pockets. Let's see what you have. Give it over. Give it over. Because they're trying to make a wildlife thing here. It's about the animals, all right? It's about the mountain lions. And if you don't open your pockets, you don't open your wallets, the mountain lions will never be able to cross the road. Open your wallets. Where could this money be going? Let's just think about this. We already saw the fraud happening in Minnesota, right? We already know Nick Shirley's out in California. He's exposing the same types of fraud in California, the health care fraud and all these things. Do we think this costs 114 million dollars or do we think that the money might be going somewhere else? Because you're telling me that they spent 114 million and they still need more. When they did the same thing for 15 million in Colorado, I just think we got it. Nick Shirley. Nick Shirley, if you can hear me, Nick Shirley, if you're watching this show, you better go figure out where this money is going because it's not going to the grass on top of this overpass. Just ridiculous.
Justin
Why put like it looked like they had like electro shock collar on the mountain line. Did you see that?
Haley Karania
No. On the. On her plush toy that she was holding.
Justin
I'll bring it back up.
Haley Karania
Okay.
Beth Pratt
Yeah.
Haley Karania
The real one or the fake one? The. There's an AI starting and stage one and. Yeah, what is start stage two?
Beth Pratt
The world change beneath us though.
Haley Karania
Save LA Cougars. I miss P22. P22 Legacy. I'm gonna look this up. P22 Legacy. This has got to be.
Justin
This is where I noticed it.
Haley Karania
This is P22. The mountain lion who lived in Los Angeles's Griffith park for nearly a decade, captured the hearts of Angelinos, died a year ago. Oh, well, this is an old article from 2023, but died a year ago on December 17, 2022. And he made headlines by crossing two of LA's massive freeways to find his longtime home in Griffith Park. The freeways. I'm assuming he tldr, but I'm assuming he died doing what he loved, crossing the highway. So I'm not reading this whole article. I'm sorry but. And it's not that I don't care. It's not that I don't care about the mountain lions, but I do.
Justin
But not as much as California.
Haley Karania
Not as much as California. And it is a pricey business loving the mountain lions in California. Good for them. It's also a pricey business to monitor the situation. And Polymarket has a new bar, a new bar in Washington D.C. and it is called the Situation Room. And it is the first, the world's first bar dedicated to monitoring the situation. So this looks very cool. This has gotten. If you are a talking head in the news industry, if you are just an ex buff, if you have, I don't know, maybe like you're like me and you have a phone addiction and you want to bet on the things that we are monitoring all the time. This sounds like the great, a great place to do it. They've got Fox News channel on. They've got News Nation on in the back. They apparently have some Bloomberg markets. They've got Poly Market screens, live X feeds, flight radar. So you can really monitor all, all the situations at the same time. You can, you can have the same security clearance as Mayor Zoram Namdani. You can, you can monitor the situation in Iran the same as he does. You can just read articles and know what's going on. You can get a briefing. So it's opening tomorrow, and my goodness, if I was in the DC Area, my ass would be in that barstool. I'm just telling you, I would be there. And I saw a lot of the people on social media. A lot of conservative influencers are all about this. I wonder if liberals would find this as cool, if this is going to be kind of like a media haunt, or if regular people will just go and monitor the situation.
Unnamed Male Commentator
But I'd imagine liberals like to unmonitor the situation. They like the blindfold and the earmuffs.
Haley Karania
Well, they're like, wait, I can't. I can't monitor the situation. I have to. What is the narrative, though? You know, they need a. They need a new bar where it's
Unnamed Male Commentator
like a rage room, but it's just Donald Trump figurines.
Haley Karania
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like those. Those bars or not bars like Ax Throwing, where they just put Trump's face on it.
Unnamed Male Commentator
Yeah, Rage rooms where they give you a bat and, like, some old vases and computers and all that, and you get to smash things.
Haley Karania
Yeah, I've done that.
Unnamed Male Commentator
Yeah.
Haley Karania
Yeah.
Unnamed Male Commentator
It's just that. But like, Trump everywhere.
Haley Karania
Yeah, I think that would be good, that we. We can monitor the situation. Let the. The adults in the room can monitor the situation, and then the liberals can go cry about it somewhere else. All right, let's do this. March Madness bracket. March Madness apparently starts today. Listen, I used to work in sports media, and I faked it till I make it. I faked it till I make it. I didn't know much about what was going on. I knew the bare minimum. So I haven't done a bracket, and I can't even do it on ESPN because it's already started. Right. So this is just a blank. And. And I'm going to pick as we go correct. All right, you guys are gonna have to help me out with the team colors and the mascots, because this is how I'll be picking. Now I'm obviously gonna go Duke. Duke v. Sienna. It's got to be Duke, so I'm gonna. I'm gonna do that there. Are you. Can you put it in or no. Are you gonna keep track of this?
Justin
Yeah, we're gonna. We're gonna type them in.
Haley Karania
Okay, perfect. Yeah, so we'll do Duke there. And then what's next? Ohio State? Tcu?
Justin
The Buckeyes versus the Horn Frogs.
Haley Karania
Buckeyes versus Horn Frogs. I feel like Ohio State is so good at football. Are they. It looks like this is A pretty close mass matchup here.
Justin
A classic eight, nine, if you will.
Haley Karania
Yeah. Dang. I don't know anything about TCU basketball. Are they good?
Justin
They're a nine seed. So, you know, it's. Out of 16. They're like a mid. Mid level.
Unnamed Male Commentator
The Horn Frogs.
Haley Karania
You think I should go with the Horned Frogs?
Unnamed Male Commentator
I just think Horned Frogs is funny.
Haley Karania
I don't know.
Justin
I H, I O. Go.
Haley Karania
All right, what does the chat think? What do we do? I think maybe let's do the Horned Frogs.
Justin
Yeah, we gotta go Frogs in the chat.
Haley Karania
We gotta go. Frogs in the chat. That was the first person to say anything, so we're just going to go with you. The chat can help me out here. Tcu. Okay, so then how are we doing this? We're going to go through all these first ones and then go. Or you want me to.
Justin
Yeah, let's go all the way down
Haley Karania
and then we'll go to start back up. Okay, so St. John's Northern Iowa, I guess St. John's that's a.
Justin
That's a very solid pick.
Haley Karania
Okay.
Justin
Mr. Patino is. Is leading.
Haley Karania
Okay.
Justin
To victory.
Haley Karania
And then we've got Kansas and Cal Baptist foreign. You're gonna have to help me out here. What are the. What are the teams?
Justin
So it's the Jayhawks. Honest, I don't even know what Cal Baptist mascot is, but I know Trey White's on Kansas's team, and he's a cool guy.
Haley Karania
Okay, and what are their mascots?
Justin
Kansas Jayhawks.
Haley Karania
And you said that.
Justin
And then I'll look up. Let me look up Cal Baptist.
Haley Karania
Okay. And then what are their colors? Because that might help me, too. Kansas basketball.
Justin
They're blue, red, and, like, yellow.
Haley Karania
Oh, I really hate the Kansas Jayhawks mascot and their logo stinks. So I think I'm gonna have to go Cal Baptist.
Justin
That's reasonable.
Haley Karania
Okay. Yeah. I don't even know what Cal Baptist has going on, but it's got to be better than Kansas. So sorry, Kansas. Sorry to this man.
Justin
The Lancers, someone.
Haley Karania
Oh, people in the chat are saying Kansas. So did I make the wrong decision?
Justin
No, absolutely not. This is definitely going to happen.
Haley Karania
Okay, Cal Baptist, we go. All right. Louisville and South Florida. I heard South Florida's is, like, a sleeper that we should maybe keep an eye on.
Justin
Sure. Yeah.
Haley Karania
Yeah. South Florida.
Justin
There we go.
Haley Karania
Look at me making decisions here. What's Michigan State? North Dakota. I got to go Michigan State, I think. Oh, no, wait. I'm thinking Michigan. No, Michigan State.
Justin
Different state is the Spartans. They're green.
Haley Karania
I Did know that.
Justin
And then North. North Dakota State.
Haley Karania
But they're. They're. What is that? The numbers next to them. What's that like?
Justin
That is their record within their region.
Haley Karania
Oh, rank within the region. Okay, can you scroll down? Because I can't see here. It's Michigan State. Vho. North Dakota State. Guys, help me in the chat.
Justin
North Dakota State are the Bisons. They are green and gold
Haley Karania
bison.
Unnamed Male Commentator
3 seed and 14 seed. I feel like is. You got to go with three. The three seed.
Haley Karania
So who is that?
Unnamed Male Commentator
Michigan.
Haley Karania
Okay, Michigan State. We go go team. Then we've got UCLA and ucf. Is that what that says?
Unnamed Male Commentator
Yes.
Haley Karania
Ucla, ucf, ucla. I think
Justin
UCLA is a solid pick.
Haley Karania
Okay, so that's good. And then I. I've got to go Yukon. Yukon's good at basketball. I knew that.
Justin
No, Fu. Furman University out of South Carolina. The Purple Paladins.
Haley Karania
Hey, I went to fu. Fairfield University. We've only made this thing, I think once, but that is the real fu. Can the real FU stand up? I will not. I don't. I've never even heard of Furman. So UConn has got it.
Justin
Coach Bob Richie.
Haley Karania
I don't know who that is.
Justin
Bob Ritchie, of course.
Haley Karania
Of course. Okay, who's next? Florida? Lehigh. What is that?
Justin
So they had a play in game the other night. I'm going to be honest, I. I don't think it's going to make a huge difference.
Unnamed Male Commentator
Florida wins.
Haley Karania
Okay, let's just go to Florida and then, I don't know, Clemson or Iowa.
Justin
That's actually a very tough game.
Haley Karania
I've heard of Clemson. I have also heard of Iowa, the state. I just don't know anything about their sports.
Justin
The Hawkeyes. The Hawkeyes have a. Have a really good coach. They are black and yellow and Clemson, as you know, is like orange and purple tigers.
Haley Karania
I think I'm going to go Clemson here. People in the chat agree. People in the chat agree. So I think I made the right decision. Ooh, Vanderbilt versus McNeese. I've never heard of McNeese, so I think I'm. Ooh, I don't know. What do I. What do I need to know about this? This is.
Unnamed Male Commentator
You need to know the numbers next to their names.
Haley Karania
Okay.
Unnamed Male Commentator
Vandy's winning this.
Haley Karania
Okay, let's go Vanderbilt. My former Nashville neighbors. Then we've got Nebraska and Troy. Never heard of Troy. So we're just going to go Nebraska. Just. That's seems good to me.
Justin
Fair enough.
Haley Karania
North Carolina. Vcu. What's vcu? What is that?
Justin
It's Virginian Commonwealth.
Haley Karania
Oh, are they good?
Justin
They have a history of being. All right. They're black and gold Rams.
Haley Karania
And then this is versus unc.
Justin
The unc. Correct.
Haley Karania
Are they good?
Unnamed Male Commentator
Is Michael Jordan's alma mater good?
Justin
Actually, pretty.
Haley Karania
Okay, let's go Unc then.
Justin
Fair. Fair.
Haley Karania
Okay. Are these respectable choices or no? I mean, it's only 50. 50. How. How.
Unnamed Male Commentator
The only one I.
Haley Karania
How bad could I be is my
Unnamed Male Commentator
alma mater of ucf who's going with
Haley Karania
the upset in first round, but on that, okay, Illinois. Penn.
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
Let's.
Haley Karania
Penn is in. Penn State or no different.
Unnamed Male Commentator
We're gonna have.
Justin
We're gonna have. Justin, go ahead and fill this one out for you.
Haley Karania
Okay? Illinois. St. Mary's I used to play them in tennis.
Justin
This is a tough one.
Haley Karania
Ooh, I don't know. I don't know.
Justin
Might. Might go with the upset. Texas A and M, they've had a good season.
Haley Karania
Okay.
Justin
The 710 is like a tough. You know, there's usually at least one upset from a 710.
Haley Karania
We've got someone in the chat saying St Mary's that we're making the wrong decision here, but let's go Texas A
Justin
and M. A lot of St. Mary's now that we've locked in.
Haley Karania
Oh, wow. Oh, wow. No, people are saying A M. Texas A and M. Take Houston.
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
All right.
Haley Karania
Okay. Houston.
Justin
Houston's great. Great lock. Great coach.
Haley Karania
All right.
Justin
All right. Now we're going to move over to the other side of the bracket here.
Haley Karania
Okay?
Justin
Same deal. And then we're. We're. We're getting through it.
Haley Karania
All right? As long as. As much as I'd like to support my Liu posters, we've got to do Arizona here.
Justin
LeBron James.
Haley Karania
No way.
Justin
Red shirting for Arizona currently. And he might have more points than. Than Long Island.
Haley Karania
Absolutely. So sorry to this man. Long Island. Sorry. Villanova. Let's go villain. Oh, but what about the. Because isn't Villanova usually good at basketball?
Justin
Indeed. They have won a few Final Fours.
Haley Karania
Okay, so let's just put Villanova in there. High Point, Wisconsin, let's go. Oh, okay. Wisconsin. Thank you. Thank you for the assistance. Arkansas, Hawaii.
Justin
Arkansas has Coach Caliperi, formerly at Cool.
Haley Karania
And I think BYU is good, right?
Justin
BYU is good. This is true.
Haley Karania
Let's go byu.
Justin
They have a huge nil.
Haley Karania
They've got a lot of money in there, and they've got.
Justin
Yeah, so they. They have a lot of nil money coming in so they can pay some of their players, which is good. And they have. They have the number one pick right
Haley Karania
now, and their mascot's a good dancer. I've seen a lot of TikTok videos of the cougar dancing.
Justin
That is an insane point of reference. And you're correct.
Haley Karania
This is all I can bring to the table, is my TikTok for you page and what I've seen on there. So, okay, Gonzaga and Kennesaw State. Got to go. Gonzaga for my fellow Jesuit University again.
Justin
We're back at another 710, which is a very Catholics.
Haley Karania
Okay, Miami. That sounds good to me. I'm going there this weekend. I'm going there today right after the show ends, so. Gotta go Miami. Thank you. I have never heard of Queens. Oh, wait, yes, I did. I actually visited Queens University.
Justin
How was the basketball program? You get some shots up in the gym?
Haley Karania
I don't know. They didn't mention it on the tour, so probably not so good.
Justin
All right, now, this is the Michigan. You were probably thinking of the blue and gold.
Haley Karania
Yeah, let's go Michigan. Yep. Georgia. St. Louis. I don't know. You got to help me out here. I don't know much about, so.
Justin
So Georgia's pretty good this year.
Haley Karania
I am so hungry. Just saying all this basketball talk is making me hungry.
Justin
I think somto is still there. They have a good center. He's from. He's from my hometown. He's pretty good.
Haley Karania
Like, who would you pick if this was gun to your head?
Justin
Georgia.
Haley Karania
Okay. Thank you. Texas Tech. Akron. Never heard of it.
Justin
So Texas Tech is probably your pick here.
Haley Karania
Really? So despite these numbers next to them.
Justin
So Texas is a five and Akron's a 12. Five is better than 12.
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
Yeah.
Haley Karania
Oh, okay. I'm looking at the other ones.
Justin
No, that's their. That's their, like, season record. But that's like. Yeah, don't worry.
Haley Karania
That doesn't really matter. Okay.
Justin
I mean, Alabama, Hofstra.
Haley Karania
We gotta go. Bama. Sorry. To my Long island family. Yeah.
Justin
Then Tennessee, Miami, Ohio. Who won last night? I was. I was up late watching that game.
Haley Karania
Who won last night?
Justin
Miami. Ohio beat smu.
Haley Karania
Oh, okay. Yeah, let's go Tennessee. And then Virginia will go. Virginia Never heard of. Right. Right Street. Is that what it is?
Justin
Right state.
Haley Karania
Oh, right state.
Justin
10 out of 10.
Haley Karania
I totally know what I'm talking about. Okay. Kentucky Chat.
Unnamed Male Commentator
Like the Akron upset, by the way, like, four people.
Haley Karania
Oh, really? Yeah. Akron for the upset. All right, well, I guess we'll see. We'll see how my bracket does. The thing about this is you don't have to touch it. I. When I Worked at Outkick. They had me do the fantasy football league, and I'm like, no, I don't want to do this because I don't know what I'm talking about. And I don't want to have to play with this all season long. I don't want to have to massage it. Like, that's. It's a lot of work. I just wanted to, like, set it and forget it, you know? And I ended up getting the first pick and I got like a pretty good team, but then I didn't. I didn't massage it all season long.
Justin
So she's a hands off owner.
Haley Karania
I'm a hands off owner, so I guess we'll see.
Justin
All right, we're at Kentucky. Santa Clara.
Haley Karania
Kentucky.
Justin
And then Iowa State, Tennessee State,
Haley Karania
Iowa State.
Justin
Iowa State's had a really good year this year, so we'll go ahead and put Iowa State. Okay, so now we're into the next round and we're going to speed run this one.
Haley Karania
Yeah, let's do it.
Justin
Pick with your heart.
Haley Karania
Okay.
Justin
Duke. TCU. Duke, St. John, CALB, St. John.
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
We're.
Justin
We're putting Justin's typing to test. USF. Michigan. So that's University of South Florida.
Haley Karania
Michigan. Oh, wait, no, I heard that. USF we have to keep an eye on. Oh, okay, wait, USF or Michigan.
Justin
It's Michigan State, too.
Haley Karania
Oh, just do USF then I guess UCLA.
Justin
UConn.
Haley Karania
UConn.
Justin
Good pick. UF. Clemson.
Haley Karania
Clemson. Oh, wait, no, that's bad, right?
Justin
Pick with your heart.
Haley Karania
All right. I already said Clemson. Oh, I already said Clemson.
Justin
Vanderbilt. Nebraska.
Haley Karania
Vanderbilt.
Justin
Heck, yeah. All right. And then unc. Illinois.
Haley Karania
Unc. Illinois.
Justin
The old Tar Heels.
Haley Karania
Unc, I guess.
Justin
And then Texas.
Haley Karania
I like the light blue.
Justin
Houston.
Haley Karania
Houston.
Justin
All right, great picks. This is great speed running the the other side of the bracket now.
Haley Karania
Speed tour. Do you follow him on TikTok?
Justin
Absolutely.
Haley Karania
Speed door. Let's go. Villanova. Arizona. Arizona.
Justin
Solid. Arkansas. Wisconsin.
Haley Karania
Wisconsin.
Justin
Byu. Gonzaga.
Haley Karania
Byu, I think.
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
Nice.
Justin
Miami. Purdue.
Haley Karania
Ooh, Purdue.
Justin
All right.
Haley Karania
Or is that bad?
Justin
No, Purdue is a higher rank, but Miami. Miami look good. This is good. All right, Michigan you're thinking of versus Georgia. Good pick. Texas Tech. Bama.
Haley Karania
Bama.
Justin
Perfect. Tennessee. Virginia.
Haley Karania
Tennessee.
Justin
And then Kentucky. Iowa.
Haley Karania
Kentucky versus Iowa.
Justin
Iowa State, to be specific.
Haley Karania
And they're good.
Justin
They're pretty good.
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
Yeah.
Haley Karania
Iowa State.
Justin
All right. Solid. Okay, we're two more rounds.
Haley Karania
Where do we go from here?
Justin
We're in the.
Haley Karania
Okay, let's go.
Justin
Duke, Duke, usf, Yukon.
Haley Karania
Yukon.
Justin
And Clemson. Vandy.
Haley Karania
Vandy.
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
All right.
Haley Karania
I'm just. I'm taking them all the way.
Justin
We're gonna let the scribe catch back
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
up,
Justin
and then Houston, unc.
Haley Karania
Houston
Justin
or team. Great picks, by the way. You're doing phenomenal.
Haley Karania
Really? Are you just saying that?
Justin
No, absolutely. Arizona, Wisconsin, Arizona, bydu, Purdue.
Haley Karania
I don't know. Byu.
Unnamed Male Commentator
I like that.
Justin
I like that pick. All right, Michigan. Bama. Let me help you out. Bama. Bama has a couple injuries, and one of their players is having to sit out currently.
Haley Karania
All right, then we. We don't go Bama then.
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
Probably.
Justin
Probably Michigan.
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
Yeah.
Haley Karania
Okay. Let's go. Tennessee. I don't even know who they're.
Justin
Wow. Big upset.
Haley Karania
Really?
Justin
Rick Barnes over at Rocky Top. I like it.
Haley Karania
Oh, so Iowa State was better?
Justin
You picked with your heart. You got to trust your heart.
Haley Karania
Yeah, but there are two seed.
Justin
They are. Do you. Do you want us to change it?
Haley Karania
I don't know. I didn't know that when I made that pick.
Justin
Well, this.
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
We'll. We'll.
Justin
We'll give you a circle back. Once the chat kind of gets in here, we'll see what's going on. Okay, this is your Elite Eight, so whoever wins this goes to the final Four. Duke, Yukon.
Haley Karania
Okay. I think Duke is good, but I don't know. Are they better than Yukon? Again, I'm so far away from the rankings or the seed, I have no idea who's good, who's bad.
Justin
I think that's best for you. Really?
Haley Karania
Okay, let's just go Duke.
Justin
Sweet. And then we have Vandy. Houston.
Haley Karania
Houston.
Justin
Houston. That's another good pick. Go. Do you want to swap Iowa State back?
Haley Karania
And who. Who would I be swapping them with?
Justin
Out of Tennessee.
Haley Karania
Go to. Oh, Tennessee or. Or Iowa State? Tennessee, I guess.
Justin
All right, so then Michigan. I. Tennessee.
Haley Karania
I don't know. Who's better?
Justin
Michigan is better.
Haley Karania
Okay, Michigan.
Justin
All right, one more. One more. Elite Eight pick. Arizona. Byu.
Haley Karania
Arizona.
Justin
All right, so your final four, ladies and gentlemen.
Haley Karania
Drum roll, please.
Justin
Arizona, Houston, and Michigan. Honestly, not crazy.
Haley Karania
Really
Justin
not crazy.
Haley Karania
Justin's shaking his head.
Unnamed Male Commentator
Michigan's rough. The other three are about right about where I would have them, but.
Haley Karania
All right.
Justin
How we got there is a little while.
Unnamed Male Commentator
Michigan upset is like, put your money on it because you'll. You'll be a bajillionaire.
Justin
The chat loves Michigan, by the way. A lot of Michigan.
Haley Karania
A lot of Michigan fans. All right, I like that. Should we do blind reactions Quick?
Justin
Hold on. You got to pick your.
Haley Karania
Oh. What?
Justin
I still got Houston.
Haley Karania
There's more to this.
Justin
There is barely someone's got to win.
Unnamed Male Commentator
There's not four winners.
Haley Karania
I thought it was a final four.
Unnamed Male Commentator
Everyone gets a trophy.
Haley Karania
I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I forgot. All right, let's get. Go, Duke. Arizona. And then I. And then I have Arizona winning.
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
Whoa.
Haley Karania
Oh. Now.
Justin
Not bad. Really bad at all. I will. We'll check back in.
Haley Karania
We'll check back in. This is. This. This is the good thing that we could just set it and forget it and we'll see when Arizona wins. You'll all be laughing. You'll all be laughing. All right, We're. We're blind reacting to these next videos. I haven't seen anything. We don't. I don't even have a description, so. All right, we're really.
Justin
Here's the first one. Is. Is a new candy out and. And a live reaction to said candy.
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
So here you go.
Beth Pratt
We bought them soup you can suck on.
Haley Karania
I just need some soup. It's so cold today.
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
Cheers. Oh, my God.
Haley Karania
It tastes like soup. I'm not even going to say it.
Beth Pratt
I'm not even going to say it,
Haley Karania
but it tastes like vomit. Why are you guys. Are you really. Don't do that. Go. Go out. Go out.
Beth Pratt
Go out. Here, do you need this? Oh, it's really nasty.
Haley Karania
And you're going to make me throw up. You know, when people throw up, it
Beth Pratt
incentivizes other people to throw up.
Haley Karania
Do we have to do this? Okay, I did not like that.
Beth Pratt
That one was nasty.
Haley Karania
We're going to have some sensitive stomachs in the chat that are throwing up at home. So it tastes like soup.
Justin
Tastes like soup. Hold on. Let me look up the flavors for you.
Haley Karania
Who's behind this nonsense?
Justin
Progresso
Haley Karania
Big soup. Would I try this? This is. This is. By the way, all the gagging. This is what I thought I was gonna do when I tried the raw milk. We did the raw milk taste test on the show. Thankfully, I got through that without doing that, but.
Justin
All right, so we got chicken noodle, tomato, basil, and beef pot roast as flavors.
Haley Karania
Beef pot roast has to be really tough. I feel like if I were to try it, I would maybe go chicken noodle soup.
Justin
That feels the safest for sure.
Haley Karania
I think it's just the way in which the flavors are being introduced to the taste buds that's freaking people out. Because all of these things taste good, but it's just in the lozenge format would probably really throw people off.
Justin
And it's, like, cold in your mouth. It's not warm.
Haley Karania
Right.
Justin
Soup.
Haley Karania
So it's Like a little gaspacho. What are they called? What is this called?
Justin
Progresso. Soup drops. Dropped early 2026.
Haley Karania
They're doing too much.
Justin
Or just enough.
Haley Karania
You know they're doing too much. It's not even soup season. We're heading into summer.
Justin
They got Willy Wonka held hostage. Coming up with new candies.
Haley Karania
This is disgusting. Okay, what else?
Justin
All right, we got the next one. New men's style wear.
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
Here you go.
Haley Karania
Show me your body.
Beth Pratt
All right.
Justin
Well,
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
it keeps my head warm. You lose over 50% of your team. I crawl.
Haley Karania
I like it.
Jeffrey Epstein (Comedian)
Then the CIA can't tell Warren.
Haley Karania
Amen. I knew that there was a conspiracy aspect to this. It wasn't just about keeping the head warm. But I will say, wear your tinfoil out proudly like I do. Don't just hide it on the inside.
Justin
He soft launched it. He was like, I'm keeping my head warm.
Haley Karania
Be loud and proud about your conspiratorial leanings.
Justin
Followed up by. And the CIA can't get me.
Haley Karania
And the CIA can get me. I like it. I like it. But I say put it on the outside. Be a real. Be a real man. Man up and be a real conspiracy theorist and wear it on the outside like I do. All right, where's the next one?
Unnamed Male Commentator
Okay, so the Matilda effect is a. It's. It's when a man does something instead of a woman because he feels that he can do it better. And it's just. You know, it's not.
Justin
It's.
Unnamed Male Commentator
It's a plague on the. On the Internet. And it's.
Haley Karania
Why do they call it that?
Unnamed Male Commentator
I'm. I don't know the backstory, but. Okay, but here's somebody explaining it.
Beth Pratt
The Matilda effect is when women do the work, but men take the credit. For example, Dr. Rosalind Franklin, she took the first image of DNA. She dude, stole it, got famous and received a mobile.
Haley Karania
I. I heard it better because. Because he was repeating. Just. It went into my brain better. I absorbed the information. Thankfully, we have men out here who can communicate effectively. Otherwise we wouldn't. We wouldn't know anything. Now I need a man to dub over my voice so that people will listen to this podcast. Careful on that note. Show's over. All right, thank you for watching. You can follow me on social media at Haley Karania. H A Y L E Y C A R O N I A I'm on X. I'm on Tick Tock. I'm on True Social. I'm on Instagram, I'm on Facebook, and I'll see you right back here tomorrow. Bye.
Host: Hayley Caronia
Guest: Jeff Epstein (comedian)
Date: March 19, 2026
In this episode, Hayley sits down with comedian Jeff Epstein — not the infamous financier, but a man who happens to share his notorious name. Through sharp, candid, and often hilarious conversation, they explore what it means to live under such heavy name baggage in the modern world, how Jeff has woven it into his comedy, and why he refuses to change his name. The conversation also veers into social media, conspiracy culture, generational humor, and the comedy scene in Portland. After the interview, Hayley riffs on hot-button topics including California’s ballooning wildlife bridge project, cultural spending priorities, and jumps into a playful, group-driven March Madness bracket with her chat.
Origins of the Name
“They didn't speak the language well and somehow Epstein became the name. It wasn't really even the name... but it was a pretty common name.”
Impacts of Sharing the Name
“I knew of him long before most. Because when you share a name with someone that's mentioned in... the Wall Street Journal back when he was originally charged... So I kind of knew there was a dude with the same name, was supposedly wealthy and powerful, who was in trouble... And unlike most news, it just won’t go away.”
“The nature of the work I do, you know, requires trust and credibility... I’m sure there’s business I don't get because of it. If I had a partner, I'd probably use their name.” (11:52)
Navigating Public Spaces & Comedy
“I did get pulled over by a police officer once... he looked at my license. He's like, ‘Are you kidding me?’ ...Now, because I have the comedy, I kind of have an outlet for those interactions.” (10:33)
“Some of me just doesn’t care... but I also don't think I really grasped how long this situation would just live... The intensity of it really kept picking up, particularly in the last year.” (14:29)
Social Media Surge & Conspiracy Theories
“If I wasn’t familiar with the conspiracy theories, I sure am now, just from all the comments. People like, ‘No, you know, this is him. He just got plastic surgery.’”
Balancing Sensitivity and Humor
“I navigate with sensitiveness and not make light of... the crimes. Just focus on being a little self-deprecating and silly about my... awkward reality.”
Comedy Scene Realities
“I've had bookers that don't know me... do they want to have the name Jeffrey Epstein listed on their show poster? ...For every opportunity I get because of my name, I'm sure there's one or two I don’t.” (12:47)
“I'm not edgy, and I'm relatively clean... I do better with a more middle of the road audience.”
Confronting Conspiracies & Legacy
“You get all the conspiracy theorists... some of them are funny actually, that gave me material. Just reading some of the TikTok comments... But I mean it’s wild, and it's gotten wilder over time.” (17:19)
Speculating the True Jeffrey Epstein’s Fate
“I think it's pretty clear that he was a professional blackmailer... that's probably how he got so wealthy. Whether he killed himself or whether someone wanted him dead...”
Advice for Others & Refusing to Change Name
“No, I don't think I ever seriously considered it... But I also don't think I really grasped how long this situation would just live.”
Shows, Plugs, Social Handles (24:47):
not_the_real_jeffrey_e (with underscores)nottherealjeffreyeJeff, on the unluckiness of the name:
“I found a way to make lemonade out of the lemons, if you will.” (07:44)
Hayley’s send-up about Epstein meetups:
“Maybe you should do a meetup. We'll pick a mountain destination and not an island.” (05:24)
On dealing with conspiracy weirdos:
“If I wasn't familiar with the conspiracy theories, I sure am now.” (15:19)
On authenticity and comedic identity:
“I could have changed my name... but it wouldn't have been that interesting, and wouldn't have been that authentic.” (12:38)
“Open your wallets, because they're trying to make a wildlife thing here... It's about the mountain lions. If you don't open your wallets, the mountain lions will never be able to cross the road.” (29:56)
The episode is irreverent, witty, sometimes self-deprecating. Hayley is brisk, bold, and brings her audience into the fold for unscripted, participatory segments. Jeff Epstein is gentle, dryly funny, and thoughtful, handling his unusual predicament with humility and grace. The tone stays accessible and conversational, never getting too heavy on the topics it discusses.
With its unique blend of comedy, cultural commentary, and chat-powered chaos, this episode offers a glimpse into the surreal experience of having a notorious name and reminds listeners that humor — and authenticity — are the best forms of resilience.
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