170 - Ancient Tech of Solomon’s Temple, Greek Fire & Black Market Morgue

Summary

Ninjas Are Butterflies, Episode 170 - Summary

Episode Title: Ancient Tech of Solomon’s Temple, Greek Fire & Black Market Morgue
Release Date: November 28, 2025
Hosts: Josh Hooper, Andy DeNoon, Andrew, Lily
(Advertisements, intros, and outros excluded)

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Episode Overview

This high-energy episode of Ninjas Are Butterflies delivers the podcast’s signature irreverent, laugh-out-loud banter layered with unexpected dives into wild history, dark mortuary tales, biblical mysteries, and futuristic AI discomforts. Together, the hosts unpack conspiracy-laden stories about Solomon’s Temple, the mysterious “Greek fire” weapon, a macabre black-market mortician, and plenty of modern-day oddities—balancing deep dives with a feast of comedic asides.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. Thanksgiving Chaos & Running Joke Themes

• The episode begins with chat about Thanksgiving traditions, family mayhem, and the podcast’s unique takes on holiday music.
  • Josh performs a darkly funny Thanksgiving song (10:48).
  • Jokes revolve around problematic family members and awkward family situations.
  • "Apologies for Grandpa." - Andy (12:05)
• Thanksgiving’s historical origins are briefly discussed, with comedic skepticism about American and Canadian celebrations, colonial myths, and holiday purpose (52:15–53:13).
  • “Thanksgiving is actually not that great to celebrate because they were basically just exploiting indigenous people.” – Lily (52:25)
  • Canadians catching heat for celebrating early: “Stop it, y’all. That’s our thing.” – Andy (52:50)

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2. Pop Culture & Tech Satire

• Nostalgia for old social networks and animation styles, and playful frustration with modern platforms (02:18–04:23).
• Light debate about TikTok facial filters and the unsettling rise of AI-based photo/video augmentation (02:35–03:02).
• Joking about integrating ChatGPT into daily life and how people and governments vie to influence AI for their own ends, raising questions of trust, manipulation, and state-sponsored narrative control (34:05–36:51).
  • “Israel wants to train ChatGPT to be more pro Israel... that’s crazy.” – Josh (35:13)

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3. AI, Black Mirror Reality & The Death of Wonder

• The team explores bizarre and uncomfortable AI advances:
  • AI tools creating music and the blurred line between artist and algorithm (23:11–25:15).
  • The “two-way” app allowing video chat with AI-recreated deceased loved ones:
    • “We are living in Black Mirror more than ever before.” – Andy (32:05)
• Increasing dementia among young people is attributed to internet content consumption (39:10–40:14).
  • “Scrolling online is just biologically changing... it’s literally corroding our minds.” – Josh (39:40)
• The crew laments loss of wonder and patience in the “instant knowledge” age.

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4. Biblical Mysteries & Ancient Tech: The Shamir of Solomon’s Temple

[Starts ~1:06:52]

• Josh leads a captivating retelling of the mysterious “Shamir”—an alleged supernatural tool described in the Talmud, said to have aided in building Solomon’s Temple without iron tools.
  • “Apparently, it is...a green ray that splits stone as a flower splits from above. A living creature whose gaze carves rock.” – Josh (1:09:08)
  • The tale involves catching the Shamir from a “rooster-like bird” on a mystical mountain after intoxicating a demon king.
  • Parallels are drawn to similarly precise ancient construction worldwide and speculation around lost nuclear or energy-based technology.
  • “The only thing that could contain this Shamir: lead. ...the only thing that can contain radioactive material.” – Josh (1:74:36)
• The Talmudic account is recognized as apocryphal but sparks deep intrigue and speculation among the hosts.

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5. Famous Ancient Weapons: The Mystery of Greek Fire

[Starts ~1:78:23]

• Andrew shares the dramatic legend of “Greek fire,” a Byzantine weapon that allegedly saved Constantinople from invasion by unleashing inextinguishable fire upon enemy ships and soldiers.
  • “These bronze structures on the front of these ships begin shooting fire...it burns so bright and so hot that water could not douse it.” – Andrew (1:81:18)
  • The weapon’s formula remains unsolved; some believe it was gifted by an angel according to Byzantine legend.
  • Its use reportedly held back major Islamic expansion into Europe.
  • “Apparently, even where it was manufactured in that city was secret and the captains would use it. But the rumor is that an angel came and gave him the tech.” – Andrew (1:83:00)

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6. Modern Horror: The Black Market Mortician

[Starts ~1:88:26]

• Andy delves into the recent history of David Sconce, a California mortician who ran an industrial-scale black-market operation:
  • Mass cremations—hundreds of bodies at a time, mixing remains.
  • Staff paid in gold fillings extracted from the dead.
  • Documented illegal sale of body parts to science; family business involved in forging signatures for body parts.
  • “He was handing out ashes to families that weren’t even their loved ones.” – Andy (1:93:38)
  • The bizarre and macabre nature of the scheme eventually resulted in minimal jail time for Sconce but revolutionized regulation of the funeral industry.

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7. Random Curios & Quickfire Side Topics

• AI robots and the discomfort of “hyper-realistic” androids (25:55–28:10).
• Revelation prophecy, AI, and end times speculation (28:07–29:46).
• Super spicy foods, international soccer (Haiti’s remarkable World Cup qualification), and the domestication of raccoons—fun animal science sidebars (41:44–49:42).
• Distinctions between “walking in on” versus “being walked in on” in the bathroom—a classic, lighthearted divisive question (58:53–60:31).

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• “We are living in Black Mirror more than ever before.” – Andy [32:05]
• “I think we've lost the ability to wonder.” – Andrew [33:42]
• “The technology was so secret... The rumor is that an angel came and gave them the tech.” – Andrew re: Greek fire [83:00]
• “He was handing out ashes to families that weren’t even their loved ones.” – Andy re: the mortician scandal [93:38]
• “Scrolling online is just biologically changing... it’s literally corroding our minds.” – Josh [39:40]

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Highlights & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• Thanksgiving Song performance: [10:48]
• Dissecting the dangers of AI chatbots as “replacements” for actual connection: [31:38–32:23]
• The Talmudic tale of the Shamir and Solomon’s Temple: [67:22–76:04]
• Dublin “narcissistic spirit guide” slam poet (cultural oddities round): [06:06–07:22]
• Greek fire’s angelic lore and ancient flamethrower mystery: [78:23–86:24]
• Jaw-dropping funeral home scandal and the show’s darkly humorous reactions: [88:23–100:44]

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Key Takeaways

• Humor is the podcast’s throughline: Even as the episode covers unsettling, macabre, and deeply strange topics, the hosts never lose their comedic tone and ability to poke fun at themselves and each other.
• Curiosity and skepticism blend: Whether unraveling biblical myths or discussing AI, the team investigates wild stories with both playful skepticism and genuine awe.
• Human connection in the digital/AI age is a recurring anxiety: The creepiness of future technology (AI, chatbot “resurrections,” algorithmic “prayer”) is repeatedly highlighted as the team wonders about the loss of presence and wonder.
• Hidden histories abound: From ancient “miraculous” technologies to forgotten (and chilling) stories of crime and fraud, the show reinforces its promise of entertaining conspiracy and storytelling.

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Key Segment Timestamps

• Thanksgiving Song & Family Chaos: 10:48–12:00
• Digital Life & AI Satire: 23:11–36:51
• Solomon’s Temple & the Shamir: 67:22–76:04
• Greek Fire Mystery: 78:23–86:24
• Black-Market Mortician Scandal: 88:26–100:44

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Episode Tone

Playful, irreverent, quick-witted, and sometimes dark. The hosts’ chemistry keeps even the creepiest content oddly enjoyable, using humor as a lens for finding wonder and weirdness in both the past and our rapidly changing present.

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This summary covers only the primary content sections, omitting all ad reads, intros, outros, and promotional tangents per instructions.

Transcript

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[Josh]

Have you guys heard of Solomon Simple? Well, guess what? It was built with ancient technology. We're gonna tell you all about it. We got all the proof, baby.

[Andy]

And I'm gonna tell you about a mortician in California that wants to steal your body parts. Isn't that fun?

[Andrew]

And a mysterious weapon given to Constantine by an angel kept the Islamic forces at bay for years.

[Lily]

This podcast is brought to you Empowered by Sunday. Cool. Watch this or listen. Aww. Thanks for the coaching, Andy.

[Andy]

I feel like a kid at a play whenever, like, they're doing the thing, but then the kids in the. The parents in the back.

[Josh]

God damn. Sunday, Sunday. Those aren't the words.

[Andy]

That's literally the words. Don't.

[Josh]

All right. Hey, yo, what you gonna do? Hey, yo, what you gonna do?

[Andy]

Dude, that opening to Space Jam, the montage after, like, he. Oh, yeah, goes like that kid goes for the basket. And then it's. It's so cool.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah.

[Andy]

So cool. And that's the thing. Like, what's the next? Because it was such a neat thing to have animated cartoon characters that you loved in a movie with real people.

[Lily]

Yeah, yeah.

[Josh]

What's the next?

[Andy]

Yeah, what's the next? Like, cool nostalgic feeling like that. Like, I don't know that they've ruined it.

[Lily]

You know what I'm not into is this new animation style that makes my eyes do this, like, where they're all moving, like, even like they're outside.

[Josh]

Spidey verse.

[Andy]

Oh, yeah, dude, I love that.

[Josh]

I do too.

[Lily]

It hurts my eyes.

[Andy]

So cool. Have you noticed on Tick Tock, like, sometimes, like, People will just be filming. It won't be any filters or anything, but then their mouths will twitch.

[Josh]

Yeah, there's like a. Like a filter on their face, but there's no filter. I know, but.

[Andy]

So it's TikTok doing it.

[Josh]

I think it's TikTok, but some. I know for a while your iPhone would do like a. Like a glow up, like a smooth your skin out.

[Andy]

But hdr, it scares me so much because it'll just like, literally, like, they're like their cheek line will just, like, just move. I'm like, I don't get it. Yeah.

[Lily]

I don't think a rabbit.

[Andy]

Yeah, it's weird.

[Andrew]

Is that exclusively on TikTok or is it on Insta?

[Andy]

I've never seen it anywhere. I think it's only on TikTok that I've seen.

[Josh]

I've seen it on Facebook.

[Andy]

I've seen it on Tumblr.

[Josh]

I seen it on, I feel like, Facebook videos. The reels are like, just like, dude.

[Andy]

I have to hit so often. Like, it's just so dumb.

[Josh]

Spillover from Instagram.

[Andy]

It's crazy.

[Lily]

It's a weird.

[Josh]

It's because we're not on Facebook a lot anymore. So, like, what are you into now?

[Andy]

Do you like this?

[Josh]

I want to show you everything.

[Andy]

I don't understand. Like, that's the tough thing is, like, getting away from Facebook because Facebook is so great for Facebook Marketplace.

[Andrew]

Yep.

[Josh]

Right.

[Andy]

And for groups.

[Lily]

I. I right. Desperately want them to make a separate Facebook Marketplace app because I want to get off of Facebook.

[Josh]

So, like, the new Craigslist.

[Lily]

Yeah. Yeah, I guess they have Craigslist.

[Andy]

Craigslist is terrible. They don't even have an app for Craigslist, though.

[Andrew]

Craigslist is doo doo.

[Andy]

It's doo doo. And they haven't even changed the format. They're like. It's all retro. We keep it that way. It's like, it looks terrible. It's. I can't. I. I was trying to get on there to find. What was I trying to find? I think it was just trucks.

[Josh]

They could have owned the market if they just, like, made an app. If they, like, made it, like, user friendly. Heck y. Anyways, we're moving on MySpace.

[Andrew]

Tom shouted us out, dude.

[Josh]

He did.

[Andy]

He watched Ninjas Are Butterflies Real. That is the dopest thing in the world.

[Lily]

That's pretty cool.

[Andrew]

I guess Shout it out was the.

[Josh]

The wrong choice of words emoji.

[Andy]

But he saw us.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

What are you doing? MySpace, Tom.

[Josh]

No.

[Andy]

What you up to? You want to come on the Bot.

[Josh]

Isn't it weird us seeing MySpace, Tom, for the first time when we were probably, like, what, 12, 13, 10?

[Andy]

Yeah, I was 12, I think.

[Josh]

And then now he's seen us.

[Andy]

Wow.

[Josh]

We've been. We've been seen.

[Lily]

Aren't you worthy?

[Andrew]

No.

[Josh]

Yes.

[Andy]

Oh, acknowledge me, but it blows my mind. Like, Melissa McCarthy follows ninjas of butterflies. She's about to be a host on SNL in the next couple weeks.

[Lily]

I love.

[Andy]

That's bonkers.

[Lily]

I love her. What's your favorite Melissa McCarthy role ever?

[Andy]

Oh, dude, sometimes it's just SNL roles. Bridesmaids from Bridesmaids is killer. It's insane. She's so good in everything, though. Identity Thief. She was, like, so great because it was such a cheesy, silly movie, but then also, like, she play, like, drama so well.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Kelsey loved her and Gilmore Girls.

[Andrew]

Girls, yeah.

[Lily]

Oh, yeah. True. She was. That's. Is that where she started?

[Andy]

I think that was, like, her breakout role. Yeah.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

So where they drink the water and they never die.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And, like. But then, like, there's that one guy who, like, goes to high school, and then he's like. He's never ages.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But, like, he. Then it turns out he's like a werewolf or something.

[Andy]

Yeah, yeah, he has. And he's like, this is the skin of a killer, Bella.

[Josh]

He's like, how. Yeah. How long have you been. 12?

[Andy]

Yeah, a while. 874 years.

[Josh]

That's the Gilmore Girls. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I figured. I figured, I figured. Man.

[Lily]

Dude, speaking of guests that I desperately want to get on the show, I feel like. Okay, so you reached out to Rupert. Thank you. Thank you. The narcissistic spirit guide is in Orlando.

[Andy]

Who is this?

[Josh]

Wait, wait, wait.

[Lily]

He's a poet. Literally, he's a poet. He does street art.

[Josh]

You. You'll recognize him instantly when you hear him. I really.

[Andrew]

I hope. Hold on. In a state of unregulated sprawl, Disney adults and loose gun laws emerges from the ruins of a Denny's parking lot, tweaking out and looking for an alligator to wrestle.

[Andy]

I love the voice, though.

[Lily]

He's from Ireland.

[Andrew]

He's from Ireland and he.

[Lily]

He's a poet. He comments on, like, culture and societal times, and he is, like, I think, the voice of our generation, literally. Um, and he goes. And what's so funny about his interviews is that he. It's. No, it's not an interview. He's basically just doing slam poetry. And then he stands next to a person who basically, he's chastising and they just stay there silent while he's, like, critiquing them. So good. Anyway, he's running Orlando right this second. I'm like, josh, please message him. Please, please, please. He's like, I will. I'm like, right now?

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

The. I think his first. First video that I saw that went pretty viral was he was in Ireland, in Dublin. Like, basically standing next to all these Americans that, like, this whole poem about. Or slam poetry about how all these Americans come to Ireland because they're Irish.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And their ancestry. It was really funny.

[Andy]

That's good.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

I've never heard of him.

[Josh]

He's very funny now.

[Andy]

I have.

[Josh]

Speaking of. Heard of him?

[Andy]

Heard of him.

[Josh]

You want to hear of us in music form? You know a song.

[Lily]

Ooh, she Does My tummy hurts a little. I just took my vitamins.

[Andy]

Just down. Chick fil A too.

[Lily]

I think I'm gonna throw up.

[Andy]

Probably be good for the pod.

[Josh]

My brother has this amazing seasoning that he makes. You know, this. His Jamaican jerk seasoning.

[Andy]

White boy reggae.

[Lily]

White boy reggae.

[Josh]

White boy, white boy reggae.

[Lily]

Right. Bye.

[Josh]

All right. Anyways, I grilled some chicken with it last night.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And what he puts in it, it's just so flavorful. There's, like, cinnamon in it.

[Andy]

There's cinnamon. There's brown sugar.

[Andrew]

There's.

[Andy]

I mean. Yeah, cumin.

[Josh]

There's cumin. Cumin, cumin. He also puts Scotch bonnet pepper flakes in it.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And apparently the part in the jar which had all the peppers in it, that's what I was poured over. All this chicken.

[Andy]

Gotta shake it around a little bit.

[Lily]

We tried to feed our children.

[Josh]

This fire coming out today.

[Andy]

Yeah. Pooping.

[Andrew]

Now I'm wondering what seasoning you've actually been eating. Like, you've just been eating grilled chicken with brown shrimp. Sugar.

[Josh]

Me?

[Andrew]

Yeah. If all. If all. The Scotch bar.

[Josh]

Yeah, pretty much.

[Andrew]

I think just caramelized. This stuff is great.

[Lily]

Oh, my gosh. This is such a good scene. Sugar on every day now.

[Andy]

We went to that Asian restaurant in Atlanta. What was the name of that place we went with your cousin Lil?

[Lily]

Oh, it was a Korean chicken place. I forget the name of it.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And I had the spiciest. I don't. Was it wings? Yeah, we. I had to.

[Josh]

While we were traveling.

[Andy]

While we were traveling overnight in Atlanta. And I asked for the spiciest wings, and the guy looked at me, he says, very spicy. And he says, you sure? And I said, yeah, absolutely. And so I did, and it was incredibly spicy. I was like, this is gonna hit Me hard. It didn't hit me at all, really, that night or the next day. But I'll have a spicy chicken sandwich from Chick Fil A seven hours later.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Gurgling dude. I'm like, oh.

[Lily]

But you never know, because sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes it does. Sometimes you get it. Oh, my gosh. And it's so hot. It's on fire.

[Josh]

When you said, are you sure? In that accent.

[Andy]

Yeah. I don't know.

[Josh]

You sounded like the candle from Beauty and the Beast.

[Andrew]

Are you sure?

[Josh]

Are you sure?

[Andy]

Be my guest.

[Josh]

All right. Song, song. Welcome to Thanksgiving. Just pull up a seat, grab a drink, a dinner plate, and put up your feet. Take a deep breath. Now we can start. Grandpa's being racist. Uncle lets out a fart Aunt Cheryl slipped on gravy, just broke her arm all of my cousins start a fire in the barn mom carves a turkey with a samurai sword Then my sister walks in with a Ouija board this is Thanksgiving what a treat this is Thanksgiving it can't be beat with the whole family what could go wrong when we sing our Thanksgiving song? This is Thanksgiving what a mess Grandpa is yelling I must conf. The words he used fills me with dread now here's a list of words what he said, neighbor.

[Andy]

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Andrew]

You.

[Andy]

We're gonna have to. We have to bleep that. What are you saying? You can't. You don't need to repeat what he said. Oh, those are slurs, Josh. This as in we cancel. We're canceled now. This is Thanksgiving what a treat. Yip. Ah.

[Josh]

This is Thanksgiving it can't be beat.

[Andy]

With the whole family what could go wrong when we sing our Thanksgiving song?

[Lily]

Wow.

[Andy]

Happy holidays.

[Lily]

Very creative. Bravo.

[Josh]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Andy]

Apologies for Grandpa.

[Josh]

He's not all there.

[Andy]

No. I wish I could have had a voice recorder when I ever had coffee with my grandpas in the morning. Long time ago. Because I can't imagine the things that he said. Yeah, that, Like, I was like, yeah, I agree with that. And I'm now like, whoa, whoa, take it easy. Bump the br.

[Josh]

I say that anymore.

[Andrew]

I can't do that.

[Josh]

Oh, man, that was funny. Thanks. Yeah. That's our Thanksgiving song. Happy Thanksgiving, everyone.

[Andy]

Yeah, it's Black Friday now, but, yeah, yeah.

[Lily]

Open shopping right now.

[Andrew]

Why do we listen when he says that?

[Lily]

I know.

[Andrew]

He says, shut up, and we all just go along.

[Andy]

I just think he's. He's a big part of the podcast. I feel like he wouldn't say it unless he. There was a big reason behind it. Right, Josh?

[Josh]

Unless I meant it.

[Lily]

I think we should revolt.

[Josh]

You're not revolting against me. Revolting against the thousands of. Tens of thousands of millions of people that are seeking answers. So, sure, yeah, go. Go ahead and revolt. Break their hearts.

[Andrew]

I'm sorry.

[Josh]

It's all right, Andrew.

[Andrew]

I retract.

[Josh]

Don't want to do this today.

[Andy]

Yeah, I mean, it's tough. I can imagine. Because it's the holidays.

[Josh]

I don't want to do this today. People.

[Andy]

Gay Bud, you got this.

[Josh]

Oh, okay.

[Andy]

You're strong.

[Josh]

Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Thanksgiving was fun.

[Andy]

It's the best.

[Josh]

I'll just. Yeah, whatever. Lily, there's no tricks in this. There are no tricks in this. Listen, please. I don't want you to get this wrong. Listen to every word I say very carefully.

[Lily]

Talk nicely to me.

[Andy]

I'm.

[Josh]

No, this is like an encouragement. You got this.

[Lily]

Okay.

[Josh]

You got this.

[Andy]

He just wants to be very clear.

[Josh]

Listen, listen, please. I don't want to get canceled.

[Andrew]

No.

[Josh]

Listen to every word I say. Today's question sent in by a viewer. Should people partake in Black Friday?

[Andy]

Think about it.

[Josh]

Think about it. Not too hard. Listen to the words that say. Should people partake in Black Friday? Black Friday?

[Lily]

Yeah, if you like deals.

[Josh]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Andy]

Tell me she didn't just say that. Now you're projecting. Now you're deflecting.

[Andrew]

Oh, gosh.

[Josh]

Oh, my gosh.

[Andy]

I know, I know.

[Josh]

I think I'm gonna be sick.

[Andy]

You broke it down for her. You made a lot of sense. You tried to understand.

[Lily]

Sick.

[Josh]

People should partake in Black Friday.

[Andy]

It's the Thanksgiving holiday.

[Josh]

Obviously, we're Talking about the 1869 financial disaster in which our current Black Friday is named after America was in ruins. The financial disaster of 1869.

[Andy]

If you're partaking in that, celebrating it, you're literally just putting your stamp of approval on that.

[Josh]

Lily, Lily, Lily.

[Andy]

It's almost like a ritual.

[Lily]

I'm thinking that Black Friday, we name it that. So that we can put money back in the economy. Bye. Bye. So, yes, we ship artisum so that we avoid.

[Josh]

No, the Black Friday.

[Andrew]

The.

[Josh]

The what? Obviously, it's well known to. I would say everyone on Earth. Black Friday is referring to the financial crisis of 1869. Everyone knows that.

[Andy]

I talked to my seven year old daughter before this, and she understood exactly what I meant when I asked this question. She said, no, absolutely not. I can't imagine anyone else who would say yes to that question. So here we are.

[Lily]

All right. Have Zola call me.

[Josh]

What's your deal. Why are you being so combative?

[Lily]

Why are you being so mad?

[Josh]

I'm not. I'm sad. And that you want this nation to live in poverty. You want people to lose their jobs. You want people to not be able to send their children to nice schools.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

You want their. Your families to go hungry.

[Andy]

Yep.

[Josh]

That's what you said. That's what she said. Well, I guess you guys heard it here first. Lily doesn't care about you. Unfortunately, all she wants is the 1869 financial crisis again.

[Lily]

No.

[Andy]

She wants your children to starve.

[Andrew]

No.

[Josh]

Welcome to show. Did I say ninja? I meant butterfly.

[Andy]

The butterfly is no doubt one of God's most beautiful lives. You learned martial arts? Ninja attack.

[Andrew]

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[Josh]

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[Andrew]

What? What? What's going on?

[Josh]

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[Andrew]

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[Lily]

Cool?

[Josh]

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[Andrew]

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[Josh]

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[Andrew]

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[Josh]

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[Andrew]

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[Josh]

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[Andrew]

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[Josh]

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[Andrew]

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[Josh]

Turtle Beach.

[Andy]

Andrew. Ask me.

[Andrew]

What?

[Andy]

Come on, ask me.

[Andrew]

What are you saying right now?

[Andy]

Ask me.

[Andrew]

Ask you what?

[Andy]

Ask me why I'm feeling so good.

[Andrew]

Why are you feeling so good, Andy?

[Andy]

Thanks for asking Andrew. I've been taking my AG one.

[Andrew]

Ok, hold on. I've heard of these guys. It's the health drink that You've been drinking.

[Andy]

It is Andrew. And it's this little microhabit that I've been incorporating into my life for the past two weeks. And I cannot believe how much my body's been missing out on like. Like, for starters, it supports gut health, it builds immune defense and has over 75 minerals and vitamins in one drink, y'. All. It's replaced the need for multivitamins, probiotics, and all that other stuff.

[Andrew]

Wow, that's great. I'm on the go a lot and I often, like, forget about all the things my body actually needs.

[Andy]

Well, obviously I'm no expert, but the people at AG1, they are. And they make it easy to take this stuff on the go and be your best all season, staying one scoop ahead of the competition. I'm telling you. Antioxidants, probiotics, and functional mushrooms once again, all in one drink, y'. All.

[Andrew]

Well, you heard the man. Go to drink ag1.comninjas to get a free welcome kit with AG1 flavor sampler and a bottle of vitamin D3 plus K2 when you first subscribe.

[Andy]

That's drink ag1.comninjas.

[Andrew]

Hey Josh, have you ever heard of Ridge wallets?

[Josh]

Oh, I don't know, Andrew. Is the pope secretly an 8 inch alien slowly waiting to take over the planet? Yes, of course he is. And of course I've heard of Ridge wallet. As soon as I heard that they were sponsored, I ordered a Ridge wallet. And I can't wait to throw out my old crusty wallet and just have my hands on one of these Ridge wallets.

[Andrew]

Same here. And as soon as I had it, I was thinking, this is the perfect gift for the holiday season.

[Josh]

I mean, these Suckers can hold 12 cards plus cash and have over 50 colors and styles to choose from.

[Andrew]

They even have a built for life warranty. So even if your wallet is lost or stolen, they've got you covered.

[Josh]

They're not only unique and slim, but people love them. They have over a hundred thousand five star reviews. And that's like a lot of reviews.

[Andrew]

It sure is. And if you love the wallets, no, Ridge is even more than that.

[Josh]

They do. Key cases, suitcase, sleek and durable, power banks, people.

[Andrew]

And the Ridge 2.0 is even 10% lighter. It has improved cash straps and money clips, even airtag attachments.

[Josh]

And fun fact, Ridge wallets have RFID blocking technology. People keeping you safe from digital pit pockers.

[Andrew]

It's all over their wallets, right?

[Josh]

Yes.

[Andrew]

Well, that sounds good to me. For a limited time, Ridge is having Their huge black Friday sale. Head to r I d g.com to get up to 47% off your order. This is by far the biggest discount that they've given all year.

[Josh]

That's ridge.com for up to 47% off your order during the biggest sale of the year. After your purchase, they will ask you, where'd you hear about us? Well, please support the show and tell them we sent you.

[Andrew]

Please.

[Josh]

Ninjas are butterflies. Sent you for the best deal of the year.

[Andrew]

We did. No one else. Thanks, Ridge.

[Josh]

Wallet.

[Andrew]

Thank you.

[Lily]

Did you. Did I tell you about that tik tok I saw where the lady. It was a. A lady in Africa, and she was like, children, children, eat your foods. People are starving in America. Because you know how the table. You'd be like, you have to eat all your dinner.

[Andy]

Are we. As the tables turned, are we the people?

[Lily]

The children are starving in America.

[Andy]

Yeah. Like how he always used to say, like, there's kids in Africa that would kill to have this.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And it's like, now it's like, there's kids in Detroit that would destroy somebody just to have a taste of your chicken.

[Josh]

There's kids in Joplin, Missouri.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Literally shout out, joplin, Jomo, the poorest place on earth.

[Andy]

Take it back.

[Josh]

Not financially.

[Andy]

Take it back. Just spiritually and emotionally.

[Andrew]

Just everything bankrupt.

[Josh]

Have you been there? Sun doesn't. The sun doesn't shine there going, hey.

[Andy]

Listen, I'm wearing my jomo shirt today.

[Lily]

I noticed. Ozark, Ozark.

[Andy]

Christian cottage.

[Josh]

Speaking as ozark, did you hear that song on tik tok?

[Andy]

This is the shirt I met you in.

[Josh]

I hugged you true.

[Andy]

I hugged you in the shirt for the very first time.

[Andrew]

Wow.

[Andy]

And I took it off.

[Josh]

You never washed again.

[Andy]

Never did.

[Josh]

Have you heard the song I run on tik tok?

[Andy]

I run.

[Josh]

No.

[Andy]

No. Okay.

[Josh]

It's. I don't think I can play it.

[Andy]

That was the way you said that.

[Josh]

I don't think I can play it.

[Lily]

Come it closer, everybody. That's on the Internet. That's awesome.

[Josh]

AI.

[Andy]

No way.

[Josh]

Dang it. Dude, These guys are trying to. They're trying to take credit for, like, we made this banger song.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And then, like, slipped. I was like, well, yeah. We sang the melody and then we ran it through suno to get a female voice. And it's like. But, you know, it'll make any song sound absolutely amazing.

[Andy]

And we've put that to the test. We put the worst things in the world in the sunno. And it sounds incredible.

[Josh]

Yeah. Dude.

[Andrew]

So here, here's my take on that. Think back to like all the pop punk bands out of like the late ninet, early 2000s. They were all writing trash songs. Like literally like four track recordings. They sounded terrible. And then you'd send your EP to a producer, you'd get a couple tracks and basically AIs just replaced the production studio. But the divide from what the consumer is listening to and what was originally written is extreme. And the industry's in the middle. So I really think we're like arguing, is AI replacing the industry? I don't know that. It's actually taking away from the amount of creativity on the front end. And that's like a generalization, not like specifically every band. But I think it's a pretty rad tool. I don't have a problem with bands using it as a tool.

[Josh]

I don't either. But don't claim it as like, we made this banger song.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And it's like, well, AI kind of made it for you.

[Andrew]

There's a. There's a fine line like the one we just did with Hardy. Like that melod. Like it took my guitar part and just added effects, but it's still my guitar part.

[Josh]

Yeah, but you played it right. I see, I see you're saying. I see you.

[Andrew]

Yeah, it's super produced. And so the question is. And there is. It is a question to be asked. But where in the product, like, where on the spectrum is it too far in too much like AI's creativity and not the artists?

[Andy]

Yeah, but sure, yeah, that was. There's some Spotify artists that are getting in trouble because they're trying to make money off Spotify and they were, they were making money and then they find out it's all a music and it's like, that's just a good way. Like, I mean, people are doing that on Tik Tok, where they create fake songs and stuff and they get a bunch of views and they get paid for it. So it's like, why? I don't know. Where's that line?

[Josh]

Yeah. Why not?

[Andrew]

Well, we talked, Andy and I, and I'm not going to. I'm not going to call him out, but we talked to someone from the industry and. No, it's not anyone on Hardee's team, just since we did an episode with him recently, but we talked to somebody, we'll just say the Christian music industry, who actually, like, we talked about some of the tools that are used and even like, you know, on the record that goes out, it's the person's name, but they're using in their production AI tools to take instruments into voices and voices in the instrument. So it's like, even if you get. You know, even if it doesn't say AI anywhere, these production houses are using it.

[Josh]

Yeah. So speaking of AI, though.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

You guys see this new Chinese robot?

[Andy]

Dude, show me Chinese robot.

[Josh]

This is creepy.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Mm.

[Andy]

I mean, I saw Russia come out with one, and it fell over like it was. It was sad.

[Josh]

Wait till you see the Chinese one.

[Andrew]

Doesn't look real.

[Josh]

I'm like, surely this is fake.

[Andrew]

It's not your. I couldn't.

[Josh]

I'm like, 90% sure, because I try to look into it a little bit more, but. All right, ready?

[Andrew]

No.

[Josh]

You guys get it?

[Andrew]

No.

[Andy]

One second.

[Andrew]

Oh, gosh.

[Josh]

I just sent the lily. Hold on, silly. Hold on.

[Lily]

It looks like a real woman.

[Josh]

Yeah. Wait till you see it move. It's crazy. All right, ready? Three, two, one, go. Oh, it made me know audio.

[Andy]

That's a robot. Whoa.

[Lily]

That's nuts. Scary. Very scary.

[Andy]

That's terrifying. That's so realistic.

[Andrew]

Watch this clip. Like, that could very much be just something right on. On the back of a person.

[Josh]

Yeah, but.

[Andrew]

Yeah, I want to see the entire, like, show skeleton. Yeah.

[Josh]

They're about to show it.

[Andy]

Weird.

[Andrew]

But even that motion looks different to me than the first.

[Josh]

It does a little bit. So it might be fake. Either way.

[Andrew]

I think they took a person, like an amputee and had him do the beginning.

[Lily]

What is this image? Do you see up top? It's like the evolutionary model.

[Josh]

Oh, no, it's just. Whatever. Tik Tok channel.

[Andy]

That is interesting.

[Lily]

The final form of evolution is us sitting in front of a computer. That's sad.

[Andrew]

Either.

[Josh]

Either way, I don't know if that. It's real. Real.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But, I mean, we're. If that is not.

[Andy]

We're not far off. Definitely not. Especially with them. Like, they're probably way ahead compared to where we are. That 1x robots that they have now that we talked about.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

It's crazy, man. That's like, everyone. Yeah, everyone's seen the iRobot. That's a movie that needs to be remade better with, like, better effects, because I feel like that's like, we're closer.

[Josh]

Now and, like, real robots that look like that.

[Andy]

Yeah, that'd be good, man. Yeah.

[Lily]

I. I sent you something the other day. I'm trying to grab it real quick so I can reference who made it.

[Andy]

You remember that movie? It's like, can. Can a. You know, he, like, will Smith's talking to the robot, and the robot, you know, and Will Smith says, you know, can, like. You know. You know, can a robot do this? Can a robot do that? Can ro. Turn a canvas into a beautiful masterpiece? And the robot says, can you. Oh, no.

[Lily]

Okay. This guy. I. I try to tread lightly with, like, biblical prophecy and stuff like that, because obviously we don't. It's all, like, a mystery to us. But this guy at Lionheart Church was talking about Revelation. I've never heard it put this way. There's. I think it's like, 4, 5, and 6, Revelation 4, 5 and 6. It talks about grasshoppers shooting fire. Fire coming out of them. And he's. This guy's making the argument that it's helicopters and warfare, and then talks about a boom of technology, basically, like a boom of wisdom. And he's arguing that that's AI.

[Andy]

Ooh, interesting.

[Lily]

I'll send it to you guys to watch another.

[Josh]

It sounded good.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

It sounded convincing. Yeah. And I mean, like, in our heart of hearts, don't we think, like, the Lord? I mean, like, we can't speculate, but, like, will the Lord allow this to transpire?

[Andy]

Yeah. I mean, who knows?

[Andrew]

Whenever I think about Will he allow it to? I just think about, like, the Coliseum and Christians.

[Lily]

I'm like, yeah, true.

[Andrew]

A lot has been allowed. But I remember when they were painting. Which world war was it, where they're painting, like, faces on airplanes. Yeah. And everyone was like, oh, my gosh, these passages from Revelation are. It's literally airplanes. The mouths are on the airplanes.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

And then, I mean, I'd have got caught up in that, too, if I had lived back then.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

So.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

It's so hard to know. It's so hard to know.

[Lily]

You're right. I. Josh, we were talking about that argument that was made about how Satan has used an Antichrist in every generation in preparation. And that is just such an interesting concept.

[Josh]

Yeah. That thought was like, satan doesn't know the day.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Because, like, Christ doesn't even know. Only the Father knows. So Satan has prepared an Antichrist for each age.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

It's like, yeah, maybe.

[Andy]

Yeah. I mean, it makes sense. There's a lot of terminology that makes it sound like it's a continuous thing that can, you know.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

It's the, you know, age of the Antichrist. And so it's just. I don't know. That would make total sense, though. Paige, instead of one singular.

[Andrew]

Paige, brought that up with me, and it wrecked my brain.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

It's crazy.

[Lily]

It makes Sense too, because you talk to older generations too, and they're like every group of people has felt like it was the end.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And that makes sense, you know, for that argument. Anyway, continue.

[Josh]

Have you heard of the two way app?

[Andy]

Two way app.

[Josh]

There's. There's a commercial on it. It's basically the concept is that you can still communicate with your deceased loved ones.

[Lily]

Oh boy.

[Andy]

Yeah, dude.

[Josh]

So it's a, it's a literal. It's a video. It's like they're FaceTiming and the commercials, like she was facetiming with her mother that passed for new baby.

[Andy]

Showing off her baby.

[Josh]

Baby grows up, becomes like an adult and then he's FaceTiming with his grandmother. And it's her voice, her likeness.

[Andy]

Yeah. And so what you do is you take the app and you record a video of the person before they pass away. You have them turn to the side, you have them say a few sentences and words that you know, so that way the AI can take it and then make their own voice, you know, just specifically for them. And then you upload that to the app and then it creates this avatar of your loved one.

[Andrew]

I hate that.

[Andy]

I mean, and you can have full on conversations with it, just like any AI because it's all, it's just a program built into it.

[Josh]

Yeah. The. Their catch line at the top of their website says human connection reimagined in the age of AI.

[Andy]

Yeah. And I've heard you.

[Andrew]

Not human connection.

[Andy]

And I've heard you take, you have them like take personality. Like you take them like almost like a personality test with it. And so you have your loved ones sit down, they fill out a survey and like things that they've said, you know, memories, possible things. So they can all integrate that into the program.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Crazy.

[Josh]

It's weird.

[Andy]

I mean we are truly.

[Andrew]

This is.

[Andy]

We are living in Black Mirror more than ever before.

[Josh]

I know. Yeah.

[Andy]

This is crazy. And it's like Black Mirror has its, you know, writing, you know, like built out form. Like this is perfect. Like they don't even have to like make up things now.

[Josh]

I know.

[Andy]

They could just like, oh cool, we'll just write about that.

[Andrew]

It's creepy. Terrifying.

[Andy]

I mean it's gonna be used though. That's the thing. Like everything that we, no matter how many like weird we think it is, someone's going to use it. Someone's buying those $20,000 robots. Somebody's gonna be talking to their dead, dead relevant relative.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Someone's gonna have that friend necklace that texts with Them every single day.

[Andrew]

Was it, was it Tim from Under Oath who is like the first to talk about AI as a form of prayer and replacing God? Yeah, I think, yeah. Ever since that conversation, my head's been jacked up with that thought process. Like how many times I'm like, I have a problem and my immediate solution to the problem is let me go to ChatGPT and see if I can solve it. And it's not like I'm praying to it. I'm just trying to like figure something out.

[Josh]

But seek immediate answers.

[Andrew]

Yeah, immediate answers from literally an algorithm.

[Andy]

A non human.

[Andrew]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's non human, non spiritual.

[Lily]

Have you heard that comedian talk about. He's like, do you remember the period of time where you would say, I wonder, I wonder where Brad Pitt is from? And then you wouldn't know.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

For a long time. And then 20 years later you hear someone say where Brad Pitt is from?

[Andy]

You're like, oh, Pete Holmes, he was talking about Tom Petty. He's like, you know what Tom Petty is? It's like 15 years would go by and then you would. And then you'd be driving through Florida one day and it says the on a science says, welcome to Gainesville, the home of Tom Petty.

[Lily]

You're like, yes, but now it's like the age of information. Instant knowledge.

[Andrew]

Yeah. We've lost the ability to wonder.

[Andy]

Yeah, but what's the difference between like Google though, right? I mean like that's the. At the end of the day, like we've had Google for a long time and that's just so it's just another form.

[Josh]

It's Internet. It just personalizes it.

[Andy]

Yeah. That's the difference. When it becomes a personality and it becomes, there's becomes a connection. I was never like falling in love with Google, but now I'm ready to get engaged to my, you know, like my Chat GPT app. Right.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

So it's also.

[Josh]

Oh yeah, well, I was just gonna say it's creepy too, of like how I'm going back to the Elon Musk thing. How a platform, it can be influenced by outside, it can be influenced by whoever.

[Andrew]

O.

[Josh]

And I say that because I saw this article that Israel has paid. Let's see, I'll just read this. The US website Responsible Statecraft reported on Tuesday that a Israel government, that the Israel government has signed a six million dollar contract with the American company Clock Tower X to produce media content aimed at influencing artificial intelligence models such as ChatGPT to promote narratives more favorable to Israel. Israel. Israel wants to train ChatGPT to be more pro Israel. So it's like, yep, that's. I mean, just being able to actually pay money to influence artificial intelligence and how artificial intelligence is so good at it really is how it can, like it gets to know you and it's like, it just, it knows and it's.

[Andy]

Not going to be so blatant. It's all going to be like, here, here's your chicken and rice recipe. Also, ever thought about Israel?

[Josh]

Yeah, that's crazy. If you have a question about maybe some bad Israel's done, it'll probably lie to you. Yeah, it's like, no, that never happened.

[Andy]

Yeah. And we, yeah, like we'd act like that's like such a crazy concept, but Google, Facebook, they've all been caught hiding information, withholding information, hiding like certain results.

[Andrew]

And worse than that, data mining.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

The amount of stuff they listen to, like you think a therapist has a write up on you?

[Josh]

The.

[Andrew]

The write up that has to exist in the metaverse of some sort on each of us is crazy.

[Lily]

Well, and I guess like going kind of on a tangent that what I'm curious about too. I mean like that article is like so salacious, like the title of it. And I'm going, is it, is it actually true though? And maybe what they're saying, I'm not like defending because it sounds like something Israel would do, knowing their history. However, like what Elon Musk was talking about with all these AI programs is like they are learning from what is existing on the Internet and is there already a lot of anti Israel narrative on the Internet? And Israel is like, let's speak facts instead of ideas.

[Josh]

I would say maybe. Yeah, maybe.

[Lily]

Maybe there's a truth in. In between.

[Andrew]

I think you have a job marketing for Israel if you want it.

[Lily]

No, thank you.

[Andy]

Lily's AI.

[Josh]

This article also says, according to the site, which is run by Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft, at least 80% of the content will be targeted to Gen Z audiences through platforms including TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, podcasts and other digital media. The campaign expects to generate at least 50 million monthly views.

[Andy]

Man.

[Lily]

Dang.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

So weird, man. I mean, that stuff's gonna happen. I mean, it's too powerful to not be manipulated or pushed towards certain audiences and certain agendas. Like, yeah, everyone's using it.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

So why not?

[Josh]

Sean Ryan just had this guy on. What's his name? It's like Chris something.

[Andrew]

Is it the hacker?

[Josh]

No, he's. He's like a trained professional in how to basically do Psyops. And he's. He's like, so now like exposing. Like, he actually made a test of like basically 0 to 100. And you, like fill out this questionnaire and if it's like 60 or 70 or above, it's more than likely a psyop.

[Andrew]

Whoa.

[Josh]

It's really cool. And why fellas talks about it. AJ and.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

He was just like. I mean, it's. It's crazy of just like, it's got me thinking of just like, if there's a lot of stuff happening and like, there's a narrative with it and it's polarizing of how it is in fact a psyop, like, what are they doing? What's their purpose with it? And not. And AJ from the wildfires, he talked about like COVID 19. He said there was a PSYOP involved in COVID 19, but he said it was played by both sides. And he broke it down. Like, right side and the left side. They both had their own psyops within it.

[Andy]

Sure.

[Josh]

And it's like, this is crazy.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

And it's like, it's so easy and believable. Like, think about a kid when parents are fighting. Like, I remember my parents getting in a disagreement. And if you leveraged it right, like, you could like, let's say I want to spend the night at my friend's house. And I could like, see that my parents were, you know, not like fighting, but whatever. Like, there was a way to play the scenario towards, like mom said or dad said, that I'm gonna take advantage of this. So literally someone can take advantage of two people very staunchly in opposition. Like, both people can have a party that they're. A place that they're coming from and where someone else outside of the scenario can be really the one who's like gassing it up. Yeah. And taking advantage of the scenario.

[Lily]

And name that person.

[Andrew]

Sorry, mom and dad.

[Lily]

Oh, who's the person? Bill Gates.

[Andy]

Bill Gates. Of course.

[Josh]

I also saw a study that dementia within 20 to 30 year olds is spiking.

[Lily]

Oh, gosh.

[Josh]

They actually said there's a 400% increase in dementia in ages 30 to 44.

[Lily]

Do they know what's up?

[Josh]

The Internet scrolling. They said it's ruining memory attention span and it's literally turning into dementia.

[Lily]

When are we going to say enough is enough and throw these things in a lake?

[Andy]

That's crazy.

[Josh]

Yeah. 400 increase.

[Andy]

So it's. By a lot. Scrolling online is just biologically changing the.

[Josh]

Attention span and memories going down. It's. It's Literally corroding our minds.

[Lily]

I believe it. I believe it.

[Andy]

Yeah. I mean, makes total sense. But that's an insane.

[Josh]

Yeah. Stat dementia. Not just like, oh, their memory is not as good. It's like dementia.

[Andy]

Yeah, that's an actual condition. That's. I mean, it's technically a disease, right? Yeah, it's terrible. Oh, man, I hate dementia videos on, like, online. Oh, so sad watching dimension videos scrolling on dementia videos online. Giving myself dementia is a real inception. Golly.

[Lily]

Is it because you're, like, only exercising, like, your dopamine receptor and then everything else is ATRI or something?

[Josh]

It's possible, dude.

[Andrew]

I mean, the anxiety, too. I saw a thing that talked about, like, because we. We have no choice. This is the world we live in. This is the job we have. So we are constantly, like, intaking information, having conversations with you guys. And so I had to start asking myself, like, what can I physically do to, like, just try to come back down to normal? And literally, it's. For me, it's been hunting and sitting in the woods. It talked about, like, we've talked about looking out at water and just, like, looking out to a horizon does something to the brain where it can, like, reset everything. But even, like, if I have an hour drive, sometimes it's no music and, like, just these little things. I've, like, I've literally found myself, like, finding mental clarity to, like, sit for an hour and just think about either the day that I just finished or, like, what's ahead of me. Because you don't realize, like, how many times in the week ahead you're actually going to reference that hour you sat in silence. And it kind of brings, like, scriptures to mind where it says, like, be still and know that I am God. Like, what if you just, like, sit there with all your worries going, like, I don't know how this is gonna play out, and then you see the wheat come to fruition. You're like, dang, he's sovereign. But, like, we get rid of that wonder and that waiting, you'll never see that he came through. Because in your mind, you've been fixing problems when really you've just been feeding this machine that's killing you.

[Josh]

Doesn't it say, scroll and know that I'm God?

[Andrew]

It does. Yeah.

[Andy]

That's what I got.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

I mean, come on.

[Josh]

That was good. Yeah, super good.

[Andy]

I can't remember last time I had, like, an actual, like, fast from all media. It's been forever, dude.

[Lily]

You want to do for Lent? Let's do it.

[Andy]

Lint I'm not Catholic, so you don't have to be.

[Josh]

Speaking of lint belly, but you. Did you. Haiti's going to the World Cup.

[Andrew]

Let's go. Haiti? Yeah.

[Andy]

Dude, is that a big deal?

[Josh]

Yeah. For the first time in 52 years.

[Andy]

Whoa.

[Josh]

Last time they went to the World cup was 1974. And listen to this. They won their. They. It was a game. They won. It was yesterday. When this comes. It was November 18th, but it was to the day. 220 years from November 18th. They fought the French and got their independence from France in haiti.

[Andy]

Wow.

[Josh]

So 222 years to the day.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

They win the game. They're going to the World Cup.

[Andrew]

They won on their Fourth of July.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Sick.

[Andy]

Wow.

[Josh]

So what I'm hoping that happens is that they get to the finals and they play France and they beat France.

[Andrew]

Oh, that would be so sick. Dude.

[Andy]

That's a movie, too, because you know.

[Josh]

What we think about the French.

[Andy]

Yeah, blame the French, baby.

[Josh]

We never charted in France. The only reason why we're saying World cup.

[Andy]

Going to Miami, right?

[Josh]

Yeah. It's, like, everywhere. Yeah, America's cool.

[Andy]

Yeah, we can go to Miami.

[Josh]

Yeah. If you have a.

[Andy]

Do like a tailgate something, though. That is. I'm saying, like, let's go. Like, let's go watch something really, like, go to location.

[Josh]

Yeah, that'd be. So that would be cool.

[Lily]

Do you have to be rich to go to a Miami game?

[Josh]

Yeah, to. Nah. Not only the World cup game, you have to have here.

[Andrew]

Y' all keep talking about it. I'll look up.

[Andy]

The average ticket to, like, the standard super bowl is, like 10,000, and Super bowl is nothing compared to the World Cup.

[Andrew]

So, like, it's the world.

[Lily]

I mean, even that. You need to have connections, right? Like, do they sell out? Like, you need to be connected and wealthy.

[Josh]

If there's anyone watching this that could get us a ticket to a World cup game in Miami. Please, please.

[Andy]

Husbands and spouses and children and close friends and family.

[Andrew]

There's no way this is true. It says the cheapest would be around $60. That. I don't buy that.

[Josh]

No, it's pretty cheap.

[Andy]

Yeah, we could do it.

[Josh]

So if you could get us that, please give US$60. I thought that was cool, though.

[Andy]

That's so cool. I mean, that's huge. I can't. I can't imagine how their community is feeling.

[Josh]

I know.

[Andy]

Like, just that. I mean, just to go is insane.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

But I mean, imagine if they win, dude. So is that next year, it's the Summer.

[Andrew]

Wow.

[Andy]

And we got the Winter Olympics this year, too.

[Lily]

Oh, my God.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Where's that?

[Andy]

I don't know. I have to look that up. But the girls are really interested in it. So we.

[Lily]

So we're going. We're participating.

[Andy]

Yeah, I'm trying.

[Josh]

Supposed to be in Russia, or did I make that up? Or was it.

[Andrew]

That sounds familiar, but I'm not sure.

[Andy]

Milan.

[Josh]

Oh, Milan.

[Andy]

Milan and Cortina De. Wow. It's really pretty. Look at that, dude.

[Lily]

I know. I. I would agree.

[Andy]

Gorgeous. Dude.

[Josh]

I get down on Milan.

[Andy]

I could get down there.

[Andrew]

Dude. Dude. My brother reached out to me. He told me, like, a narrative in this World cup that I'm going to want to follow, and it makes me. I want to watch an A. Irish game. Ireland play. I want to go to, like, an Irish pub and watch them play. Apparently, the. The draw that they had, the first team they played is. Oh, shoot. Where Cristiano Ronaldo's from? Portugal. Portugal. Who is their favorite? They're, like, fifth in the table. They're, like, a favorite to win it. You know, Messi won the last one. This would be, like, a pretty rad. Like, they've been rivals. Ronaldo, Messi. Anyways, that's the first drop, bro. They beat them two zero.

[Josh]

No way.

[Andrew]

They smoke them, and then the next game, they have to. The next game, and they literally. It's now drawn. I think Hungary is who they played. It's two, two. And to get into the World cup, they have to win this game. Literally five minutes of stoppage time. Five minutes has just finished. The keeper chips one. He's, like, in the middle, you know, like, where the keeper pushes up. It's like, this is it. He sends one in. Literally, someone heads it, pokes it past the keeper. Literally beyond the last second of the game, they're in the World Cup.

[Josh]

Heck, yeah.

[Andrew]

Ireland. Yeah.

[Andy]

Sucker.

[Andrew]

Haiti. Ireland. Like, obviously, I'm rooting. The US Looks really good. Pochettino, Boccaccino, whatever. He used to be a PSG's coach. Beast of a coach. Our team's looking great, and so obviously I'm pulling for the US but there are a couple other. Couple other teams to watch this year. That'll be fun.

[Josh]

I love the World Cup. It's so fun.

[Andrew]

Should we. That should be our first ninja sabbatical for just, like, a few weeks. We don't post any content. We take our break. We just watch the World Cup. Yep.

[Andy]

I'll just. I'll do pod by myself. I'm not a big soccer guy.

[Josh]

Yeah. Footballer.

[Andy]

Foot the ball. Yes.

[Andrew]

Yes.

[Josh]

Here's something fun. There's this. I don't know actually where they're at. I think out west, maybe.

[Andrew]

I don't know.

[Josh]

It doesn't matter to the story. There's this group of people that they study animals.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Josh]

And this really fun study that they're doing is, are there animals in this world right now that are becoming domesticated?

[Andrew]

Cool.

[Josh]

Like dogs, like, basically, yeah. Like, evolving into a domesticated animal.

[Andy]

Interesting.

[Josh]

And a sign of that is there's their snouts actually shortened.

[Andy]

What?

[Josh]

And there's an animal that they've observed that is starting to become domesticated.

[Andy]

Can we guess?

[Josh]

Sure.

[Andy]

Is that a, like, forest creature?

[Josh]

Yeah. Could be city creature, too, because that's actually where they're becoming.

[Andy]

Can I hold it in my hands?

[Lily]

Raccoon.

[Andy]

Raccoons.

[Josh]

Raccoons are starting to become domesticated.

[Andy]

Let's go. That would be so cool.

[Josh]

They've done this study where they took, like, tens of thousands of pictures, and they compiled these pictures of raccoons that actually live in city areas, and their snouts are starting to shorten, meaning, like, they're becoming domesticated.

[Andy]

Weird. How does that work? How does an animal become domesticated? Just because, like, they're. They're not living off their own land. They're. They're relying on a lot of other food from. That's.

[Josh]

I think so, yeah.

[Andy]

Wow.

[Andrew]

I know. They said it happened with dogs because the dogs that figured out if they, like, submitted to humans, like, empathy would be, like, you know, it would be granted to them or whatever. So, like, scraps of food or whatever. And so the dogs that would come up, like, you know, ears back, kind of, like, cute or whatever, they actually started developing. You know, dogs will have, like, a couple, like, eyebrows, like, eyebrow whiskers. And so, like, some dogs can be really expressive. Yeah.

[Andy]

Like, the muscles in their eyebrows are.

[Andrew]

Even like that stuff that, you know, in wild breeds, it doesn't exist. That's why the wolves just have that, like, I'm staring you down. They don't have the ability to, like, raise their eyebrows and express crazy.

[Josh]

Speaking of wolves.

[Lily]

Wait, wait. Before you go, I have a raccoon. Fun fact.

[Josh]

Oh, okay.

[Lily]

For Thanksgiving.

[Andrew]

Ooh.

[Andy]

Who eats raccoon on Thanksgiving? I do.

[Lily]

Did you know that President Coolidge was gifted a raccoon for Thanksgiving?

[Josh]

Very cool.

[Lily]

To eat a live raccoon. And he was supposed to kill it and eat it. Instead he kept it for a pet and named it Rebecca.

[Josh]

Rebecca.

[Andy]

Rebecca the raccoon.

[Lily]

So he kept He. That's why it was.

[Josh]

President Coolidge was eating a raccoon. Like a common thing back then.

[Andrew]

Like, it's still a common thing, dude.

[Andy]

There's a. I mean, for certain mountain people. For sure.

[Andrew]

There's an NFL player who, like, took his teammates to, like, where he comes from and, like, that's what he made him.

[Josh]

I heard it's like super, like, oily or something.

[Lily]

Yeah, it sounds like.

[Andrew]

I mean, trash.

[Josh]

Oil and.

[Andy]

Oil.

[Josh]

And Chad, right?

[Andy]

What did Chad Wright say? He was talking. Was it raccoons that he was in?

[Josh]

No, squirrels.

[Andy]

Squirrels. Yeah.

[Lily]

He said that bears are greasy, though.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Yeah, that's right. Greasy.

[Andy]

Yes. Wolves.

[Josh]

There's this video I saw where. I think it was in Yellowstone. This guy saw wolves and started walking towards them.

[Lily]

Oh, my gosh.

[Josh]

And I was like, what are you doing? Like, get back. Like, they're going to kill you.

[Andy]

A whole pack of wolves.

[Josh]

And these wolves, like, surrounded him and they're, like, trying to, like, get him.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And he pulled out some bear spray and, like, sprayed them and then, like, came back. But, dude, he's so lucky.

[Andy]

Yeah. Dude.

[Josh]

Also. What an idiot.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Like, I don't understand. You see, I see video after video of people with no brain cells in Yellowstone. They just completely just getting out of their car, standing 10ft away from a bison. Like, it's like, what are you doing?

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

This is crazy. Like, it's. I've seen video. Like, you've seen the ones where they just literally knock them up with no effort at all.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

15Ft in the air.

[Andrew]

Dude. The video a little. That video of the little girl where the dad is, like, not doing a good job. Like, she's, like, on the other side of the tree and that bison's about to get her.

[Andy]

I haven't seen it.

[Andrew]

Thought I showed you guys. Maybe not. Anyways. Yeah. People are dumb out there, dude.

[Andy]

It's wild. And it's like, how do you not learn? How do you not know? I remember going to Yellowstone as a kid and there were so many videos and so many, like, post markings of, like, don't approach the animals.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Stay back.

[Andrew]

Tell me this, if you were actually working the park, though, and you just got tired of telling people no, and you saw a dude just. You looked at him and he rubbed your wrong. You're like.

[Andy]

You just like. Instead of yelling, he's like, hey, get.

[Josh]

Back in your car.

[Andrew]

Please don't.

[Andy]

Don't do that.

[Andrew]

Don't poke the bear.

[Josh]

No, there's a pack of wolves and they're going to tell you guys, don't go pet a wolf.

[Lily]

Don't do it.

[Andy]

Hey, speaking of presidents, we had a fun fact today. Do you know that Joe Biden was born closer to Abraham Lincoln's presidency than his own presidency?

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[Andy]

Isn't that nuts? 77 years before Joe Biden was born. Abraham Lincoln.

[Lily]

That's amazing. Did you know that Abraham Lincoln made Thanksgiving a national holiday?

[Andy]

I saw that and I heard a lot was. A lot of it was propaganda as well, though.

[Lily]

Yeah, it was to get everybody feeling happy during the Civil War.

[Andy]

Try to get a unified Civil War.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Boycott Thanksgiving.

[Josh]

So Thanksgiving was that first celebrated, like, during the Civil War era.

[Lily]

That was the first time it became a national holiday. Like, people get.

[Josh]

What about the pilgrims?

[Andy]

Yeah, but the pilgrims. After that, after the big feast, there was, like, accused execution. So, like, yeah, Yeah. I was like, what are we celebrating? What are we celebrating?

[Lily]

I was looking at fun facts for Thanksgiving, and a lot of it was like, did you know that Thanksgiving is actually not that great to celebrate because they were basically just exploiting indigenous people and it's like. Yeah, I did know that.

[Andy]

I did know that. I'm still eating a ton.

[Josh]

I thought Black Friday was named after that massacre that happened after the feast.

[Lily]

I thought so, too. I had heard that. Did you know Canada celebrates Thanksgiving?

[Josh]

What the What?

[Lily]

But one month early.

[Andrew]

What are you guys doing?

[Andy]

Stop it, y'. All.

[Josh]

You know, that's our thing.

[Andrew]

I'm kind of for that, though, because I feel like Thanksgiving and Christmas is pretty back to back. I wouldn't mind a month of, like, get caught back up on work in between.

[Andy]

I mean, Thanksgiving right before Halloween would be cool.

[Lily]

That's when they do it. They do it right before Halloween.

[Andy]

It's, like, very Octobery.

[Josh]

Who side are you guys on?

[Andrew]

I mean, I am.

[Josh]

Do you know who the Canadians are allied with? Who allied who? They're. They align themselves with? Who? The French.

[Andy]

Oh, never mind. Never mind. You know what language they speak in Canada?

[Andrew]

Did you know I am part French Canadian?

[Josh]

Yeah, you are.

[Andy]

Get out.

[Josh]

I thought you're Mexican. Nope. Oh.

[Andy]

Oh, he's Malaysia.

[Lily]

A bunch of people on the live were like, is it Andrew White, dude?

[Andrew]

That was. Yeah.

[Josh]

Oh, you need to address that because I got messages personally.

[Andrew]

No way.

[Josh]

On the live, we were talking about Nick Fuentes, which we won't get into.

[Lily]

Yeah, that guy is a worse.

[Andy]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. We love you, Nick.

[Josh]

I don't want to pick a fight with Nick. He scares me.

[Andy]

He's short, but he scares me still.

[Josh]

But Andrew made a joke about how interracial marriage is wrong. And people were like, but Andrew himself is in an interracial marriage, which we're not for.

[Andy]

To a white woman, which we're not supportive of.

[Andrew]

My question. My question then is, like, how do people see me? Like, I wonder, because I'm assuming these people have seen my social media or if they've been following for a while.

[Josh]

They just hear dead deers.

[Andrew]

Yeah, they just see me.

[Andy]

He's racist and a murderer.

[Andrew]

No.

[Josh]

Yeah. So he was joking. You were joking.

[Andrew]

I am.

[Josh]

Joking.

[Andrew]

My mom is white, my dad is Filipino, and I pray for them.

[Josh]

Yeah. Speaking of, you said dead things. Yeah, that. Murder.

[Andy]

Yeah, murder.

[Josh]

Let's talk about some dead people.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Andy]

Let's do it.

[Josh]

All right. Right after this answer. Don't go anywhere.

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[Lily]

Wow.

[Andy]

Listen, if we don't have that new shirt, you still go toninjas of butterflies.com because listen, we're trying to work on the designs. We're plenty more for you coming in the future. But is it this one? Sick right here.

[Josh]

So cool.

[Andy]

It's a clanker one, right?

[Josh]

Yes. Stop the clankers.

[Andy]

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[Josh]

Yes.

[Andy]

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[Josh]

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[Andy]

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[Josh]

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[Josh]

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[Andy]

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[Josh]

Oh, what a fun ad.

[Andy]

Ag one, I don't think you're allowed to do that. I'm doing it cross promotion.

[Lily]

A little bit of extra lemonade.

[Josh]

A little bit of that.

[Andrew]

A little bit.

[Andy]

A little bit of lemonade in my cup.

[Josh]

Dude, that first half flew by. Oh, man, I haven't even gotten into the crazy stuff yet.

[Andy]

Oh, hit me, dude.

[Josh]

I will hit you as soon as we do.

[Andy]

Question corner, question corner, question corner with.

[Josh]

Lily, where the questions are fresh on her mind.

[Lily]

Mine's a quick one. We'll be quick. Which is worse.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Lily]

Walking in on someone, using the bathroom or being walked in on walking in.

[Josh]

Walking in on someone. No, I don't mind if anyone walks in on me. Say, come on in.

[Andrew]

Yeah, I'd prefer to walk in on somebody.

[Josh]

That you prefer to walk in on someone?

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Oh, no, I have so much.

[Andrew]

Because that's not the year. Yeah.

[Andy]

One of the guys in the office was sitting on the toilet. And then Josh walks in. He's like, oh, oh. And then he walks him out. He's like, why did you lock it? Why did you not lock it?

[Josh]

And we never.

[Andrew]

We did.

[Josh]

Probably didn't talk for a year.

[Andy]

Well, I think you hardly talked before that, so it was like. It made it even more awkward.

[Lily]

What I'll tell you is those doors are Misleading, though. I never trust those doors. They put the big lock on it. Yeah.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Well, why didn't. Didn't a. A guy walk in on a girl here, incidentally? Oh, man, it was like the worst.

[Josh]

That's what I'm saying. That's worse. Instead of being walked in on.

[Lily]

Wait, who were they? Tell me after.

[Josh]

Yeah, we'll tell you after. Okay. Unless you're like, mid wipe and someone walks in on you, then it's like, game over.

[Lily]

Are you standing up or are you saying.

[Andy]

No, I do a headstand.

[Lily]

I. I stand up to wipe.

[Josh]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Haven't we talked about this?

[Andy]

No, you don't.

[Josh]

Have you always stood up to wipe?

[Lily]

I. Sometimes. It depends. Yeah.

[Andy]

Oh, no. You didn't know this, did you?

[Josh]

No.

[Lily]

What does this change about your perspective of me?

[Andy]

Well, if this would have happened before the wedding, I'm sure it would have changed a lot.

[Josh]

You're a stand up wiper. Sometimes I think that's like how kids do it.

[Lily]

I know.

[Andrew]

I know.

[Josh]

That's how kids do it. That's how it does. It's just that trait that you never learned to just be able to sit. Because when you stand up, then it goes.

[Andrew]

That's what I'm saying.

[Lily]

I'm afraid that my fingers are going to dip in the toilet.

[Andy]

What do you.

[Josh]

How far down does your butt hang in the toilet? She just like, tries to.

[Andy]

You're supposed to go in between the toilet seat speaking.

[Josh]

Legs like this.

[Andy]

Supposed to go in between.

[Lily]

Let's see.

[Josh]

Stand up wiper. Huh?

[Andy]

That's crazy.

[Lily]

Move on.

[Josh]

Austin Warren's a stand up wiper too.

[Andy]

Who?

[Josh]

Austin Warren.

[Andy]

Oh, yeah, we know that.

[Josh]

He needs.

[Andy]

Yeah, he deserves the shame. That's crazy.

[Josh]

Stand up wiper.

[Andy]

No. Do you stand up to use the bidet too? No, the aim's really good.

[Lily]

It's clocked in at like a certain angle. I don't know how to tell you.

[Josh]

What? I have not been using that bidet during these cold mornings.

[Lily]

No, it's too cold.

[Andrew]

Too cold.

[Andy]

Wakes you up, though.

[Josh]

Dude, that's too.

[Andy]

It's like going.

[Josh]

It's like someone like, trying to, like, pinch you to wake you up.

[Andy]

Oh, that's. Ow. Dude, I hate. I hate getting pinched. Yeah, it gets. It sends anger through me.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Can't stand. So I know Zola, like, used to bite me all the time and she's been playing like she's going to bite me and I'm. I'm like. I'm telling you, if you do it, I'M doing it back. That's just how it works. It shows. She'll bite my shirt. And just last week, she barely got the edge of my stomach. And I'm like, girl.

[Lily]

Oh, man, Me this morning too. I don't know what that's about.

[Josh]

Yeah, Jane. Jane. She's bitten me pretty hard before.

[Andy]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the worst because they latch down, dude.

[Josh]

And their teeth are. Those little teeth are sharp.

[Andy]

They're the worst. It's like a tiny bear trap.

[Josh]

Yeah. Anyways, Andrew hit us with that beats. I don't stand up. I don't stand up. I sit down when I wipe and just got a real.

[Andy]

Yes, he does.

[Josh]

Don't stand up. That's weird to do that.

[Andrew]

Hey, I've been throwing a lot of hate to the Asian community for the weird things that they eat, but this here, the initial beginning of this video is not that bad. Seems like the kind of thing that just happens on the. On a dare. But the end of this video got my stomach going.

[Josh]

All right, ready?

[Andrew]

Yep. Stop.

[Andy]

Asian hate.

[Josh]

It, man. I'm gonna eat the fish.

[Andrew]

Head up.

[Andy]

Let me see. Oh, wait for it, dude.

[Andrew]

Wait for it. Wait for it.

[Andy]

Can you do that?

[Andrew]

I so nauseous, dude, dude.

[Josh]

Dude.

[Andy]

Why am I so. Dude, that medication is making me so nauseous, and it's make it even worse with that stuff.

[Andrew]

And you know how that smelt. Oh, no.

[Andy]

Oh, man.

[Josh]

Take a breather. Breathe.

[Andy]

I can't help it. I feel like I'm becoming a wuss when it comes to this stuff now.

[Josh]

Maybe you're pregnant.

[Andy]

I probably am.

[Andrew]

Baseball.

[Andy]

So hormonal. Oh, gosh, dude, that's rough.

[Josh]

Yeah, that was gnarly. I don't think he enjoyed that.

[Andrew]

No, he saw it in his face. That's one of those things letting it fall out his mouth.

[Andy]

Yeah, you just talk yourself up so much, you're like, okay, then do it. Like, I will. I'm not afraid to. I could do it. It's not a big deal. I do this all the time.

[Lily]

Can you do that? Like, will the bones of the fish mush your tummy up?

[Andy]

No, you're fine.

[Lily]

Slice it up a little.

[Andy]

Probably not great. I mean, it's better cooked, but I.

[Andrew]

Mean, I think it's the opposite. I think it gets worse for you once it's cooked the bones. Unless it's, like, cooked all the way down like a canned sardine. But I think it's better for you when it's raw.

[Andy]

I think thick bones are different, like, like chicken bones. That's obvious. But, like, I think fish bones. It'll matter.

[Josh]

I've always been. Oh, continue.

[Andy]

They get soft when they get cooked.

[Josh]

I was just gonna talk about. I've always been told that if a dog eats chocolate, they die.

[Andy]

Can stark chocolate.

[Josh]

Well.

[Andy]

And grapes.

[Josh]

Well, it's happened twice now. Well, they're going retriever. Dutch. The second time. Lily baked these chocolate cookies with a. I mean, they're the most chocolatey chocolate cookies with a big old, thick, dark chocolate goulash in the middle.

[Andy]

Yeah, goulash.

[Josh]

Eight of them.

[Lily]

Dutch ate the whole tray.

[Josh]

Whole tray. And I'm just like. And I googled it.

[Lily]

We have to call poison control.

[Josh]

Well, that's what Google said. I'm just like, I don't know what to do.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Like, is he gonna die? Like, what are we gonna do?

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

I'm like, he's fine.

[Andy]

Say goodbye.

[Josh]

We remembered that he ate a whole bag of chocolate one time. Like, I mean, a whole bag of chocolate. And I was like, well, at least, like, have diarrhea or something.

[Andy]

Yeah. Nothing weird.

[Josh]

Invincible to chocolate dogs.

[Andrew]

What kind of dude kind of chocolate you put in it?

[Lily]

It was. The girls had picked this cookie to make. We got the American Girl cookie cookbook from the library, and we were doing, like, baking and stuff. And it was a. Basically like a sugar cookie, but with cocoa powder in it. And then you make a. Like a chocolate. You, like, basically temper chocolate, and you put it in the middle and put sprinkles on top. But last night, we were reading a book about animals, and it talked about macaws. And we're like, what do macaws eat? And we googled and they. Sometimes they eat something. Stems. And we're like, oh, my gosh. And I was like, I bet we used to eat stems. And now our stomachs have changed. And Josh was like, my grandpa used to eat peanuts whole with the shell on it.

[Josh]

Shell in the hole.

[Lily]

Can you imagine?

[Andy]

I mean, I eat sunflower seeds whole.

[Lily]

I do, too, sometimes.

[Andy]

I mean, that's like, probably close to the same thing, I'd imagine.

[Lily]

What happens to you, though?

[Andy]

Nothing.

[Lily]

Do you eat a lot of them like that?

[Andy]

I used to, yeah.

[Josh]

That can't be enjoyable.

[Lily]

I like it.

[Andrew]

It's like, two episodes ago, Andy was going, there's this pain.

[Lily]

Did you ever figure that out?

[Andy]

No, I was just talking to him. I think it was just because I'm bloated sometimes because I'm not having that pain today. But, like, I don't know. It's weird.

[Lily]

I bet it's your gallbladder guy?

[Andy]

I doubt it. I doubt it. That's all a scam, dude. Gallbladder is a scam.

[Andrew]

That right here.

[Lily]

I thought it was the right side or what? I know it is up.

[Josh]

I think it's up here.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

The gallbladder. Yeah, for sure.

[Josh]

Speaking of gallbladders.

[Andy]

What?

[Josh]

Let's talk about the Solomon's Temple.

[Lily]

Hey, I just learned about the second temple.

[Andy]

No, Solomon's bsf.

[Josh]

No, it wasn't Solomon's. Sorry.

[Lily]

Bsf.

[Josh]

That was after Salman.

[Lily]

Did you know that they did. They observed everything the exact same way in the second temple. Like they built it at the same time.

[Josh]

Oh, really?

[Lily]

Of the year.

[Josh]

I did not know that.

[Lily]

Sourced all the materials from the same places.

[Josh]

Very interesting.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Well, here's something that I found very interesting. That it's. I don't know. I don't know.

[Andy]

I don't know.

[Josh]

All right.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Andy]

Solomon.

[Josh]

Solomon's temple. In scripture, in the Bible, First Kings 6, verse 7, says, and the house, when it is being built, was built of stone prepared at the quarry, so that neither hammer nor ax nor any tool of iron or was heard in the house while it was being built.

[Andy]

Okay. So they prepared it off.

[Josh]

So the temple site, when it was constructed on the Temple Mount, there was no metal tools used.

[Andy]

Cool. That's awesome.

[Lily]

How.

[Josh]

Because they said that they prepared it in the quarry.

[Lily]

Wow.

[Josh]

And then you go back to the Talmud, right?

[Lily]

Talmud.

[Josh]

Talmud, which is a huge book in Judaism. I don't know too much about. I know there's a lot of controversy around it. It was written after Christ, they say.

[Lily]

Some spooky stuff in it, I think.

[Josh]

Some pretty weird stuff, too.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Read it. Snorefest.

[Josh]

I think it's like 60,000 pages or something like that. I could be wrong on that. But there's a story within the Talmud. Am I saying that right?

[Lily]

I think so, yeah.

[Andy]

Talmud.

[Josh]

Talmud. And it talks about Solomon used this ancient technology to build a temple called the Shamir. And this is weird. This is. And this, I'll preface, the Talmud is not recognized within Christianity. I think, like historians too. It's like. Because a lot of stories in it, the borderline mystical. And I think, like the.

[Andrew]

Like.

[Josh]

Was it called the Cabal or whatever? Like Jewish mysticism?

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Kabbalah.

[Andy]

I don't know.

[Josh]

Oprah.

[Lily]

Kamala.

[Josh]

Kamala. Okay, that's it. But the story of the Shamir, apparently it is. They actually don't really know. Some speculate it's a worm creature or a stone or a beam of Energy. And in the Talmud it talks about, basically, it is this green. It'll like this green ray that splits stone as a flower splits from above a living creature whose gaze carves rock. These are all descriptions of the Shamir in the Talmud. A stone that disintegrates anything placed before it. A tool used by Moses to engrave the ten Commandments in sapphire.

[Andy]

Whoa.

[Josh]

But apparently this tool melts rock like it cuts rock. And it's the craziest story of how it came about. The Talmud talks about the story that. So God basically told salman, you're not allowed to use iron tools on the temple because the thought of using these iron tools are also used in warfare to kill people. And I do not want iron tools used in my house. Yeah, this is Tamil. No, not the scripture I was gonna say.

[Lily]

I don't remember that.

[Josh]

Yeah. And so he's like, how are we supposed to build this temple? Like, with no iron tools? And then he was told that there's this device or thing called the Shamir. And it was given to Ash Medea, who is the king of demons.

[Lily]

Medea.

[Josh]

Or Ash Madaya.

[Lily]

I think all the way back then.

[Andy]

Tyler Perry.

[Josh]

Medea goes to Israel, Medea goes to the temple. Ash Madaya. That's probably how you say it.

[Lily]

Okay.

[Josh]

A S H M E D A I Ashmadaya media. Ashman Ash Media allure, whatever. Ashmediah. And they were told, you need to track down Ashmediah to get this tool. This king of demons, who. Some people have speculated that it was actually Ashmadiya was a watcher. And so what they did was they found where Ashmadiya resigned on this mountain.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Josh]

And he had this pit that Ashmedia had this pit that was his well, where he went daily to drink out of this well. And how the story goes in the Talmud is that they drained the water out and they filled it with wine. Ash Medea came, drank from it, became drunk. And in his drunken phase, Solomon's best warriors tackled him, basically tied them all up and forced him to say where the Shamir is.

[Lily]

Wow.

[Josh]

And this is where. If it wasn't weird before. Yeah, it gets weirder.

[Andy]

Twist.

[Josh]

Ash Medea. Ashmadai. I'm gonna say ashmadai. That sounds better.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Josh]

Ash Madai reveals the location of the Shamir, which just so happened to be on another mythical mountain. And this is crazy. This is in their book.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Josh]

It was guarded by a rooster like bird called the Tarnagal Habar Tanagle Habar.

[Lily]

Was he nice?

[Josh]

Which was. It's like which translates to like a wild crow or mountain. Like mountain rooster.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Cool.

[Josh]

But the bird used the Shamir to split rock for its nest. And so they went and they tricked this bird, basically.

[Andy]

Yeah, easy to do.

[Josh]

And, oh, how they did this.

[Lily]

They drew a line so he put his face.

[Josh]

Well, no, it's apparently. This is crazy. They, like, went to its nest and they, like, put glass over its nest, and the bird couldn't figure out how to get in, so it went to get the Shamir to cut through the glass to get through its nest.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And that's where they captured it. That's where they got the Shamir.

[Andy]

Smart.

[Josh]

And that's when they used the shamir, apparently, to build the temple where they weren't allowed to use metal tools, but they use this ancient technology called the Shamir. And this is where it gets crazy.

[Andy]

Seems worse than iron.

[Lily]

Maybe biblically it comes from a demon guy. Yeah.

[Josh]

Well, what if it's not?

[Andrew]

What?

[Josh]

It's because they actually believe this Shamir existed at the creation of Earth. They believe that the Shamir was created before Adam and Eve. So it was just being a tool by God.

[Andy]

Correct. So it was a tool being used by these demonic creatures.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And we've talked about before all these ancient ruins were the. The rocks they, like, in Peru and stuff. That wall. These rocks fit perfectly. And the stories of them. Melting rock.

[Lily]

Yeah, dude.

[Josh]

And carving out these tunnels that, like, literally looks. It's like glass.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

It's weird.

[Andy]

And those civilizations we talked about that were just like that strong, intense heat.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

It's like. What. Who says that couldn't have been it like, that just tore apart a whole, you know, city.

[Josh]

Yeah. And they said nothing could contain this Shamir. Everything that they put it in, it would go through. Right. Except lead, which apparently. A lead box.

[Andrew]

Lead paint.

[Josh]

Well, a lead box, because lead is not. It's the only thing that can contain radioactive material.

[Lily]

Oh, that's true.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Weird.

[Josh]

So the speculation is this device was some type of nuclear something. Some people will say that it was just like this device. Other people say it was an actual physical worm.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Either way.

[Andy]

Energy, you said. Yeah, like a beam of energy. And it's so strange either way.

[Josh]

The Talmud says that King Solomon. And then after the temple was built, somehow the Shamir just disappeared, never to be seen again.

[Andy]

Well, it's still out there.

[Josh]

But then you think of all these ancient civilizations. They. You can see there's a time in which this kind of, like, technology of building just stopped.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

They started building in a Different kind of way.

[Andy]

Because they had to. Yeah, because the resources, you know, like, they didn't have the resources that they.

[Josh]

Did or the knowledge.

[Andy]

Yeah, the Shamir.

[Josh]

The Shamir.

[Andy]

That's crazy. Yeah, that's wild.

[Josh]

Yeah. But the time where they talks about these things that existed before Adam and Eve, and one of them, they say that Moses's staff existed, was created basically, like in the garden.

[Lily]

Oh, that's cool.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

There's some fun stories in the thing, but it's like, to us, it's like, very mythical. Mythical.

[Lily]

Yeah. There's also, like, horrific stories in there.

[Josh]

Yeah, there is.

[Lily]

I think I told the story about on the show, maybe, so stop me if I did. But in the Talmud, there's the story about the sacrifices that turn from red to white. Did I tell you about that?

[Andy]

It's not ringing a bell.

[Lily]

Like, I guess, basically they. Before, when they would do sacrifices. I've never read this in the Bible. I don't. Maybe it's just in the Talmud. But they would tie a red scarf around the sacrifice and burn it as a burnt offering. And then when the scarf turned white in the fire, they knew that God had accepted their sacrifice. After the time of Jesus's crucifixion, the scarves never turned white again.

[Josh]

Whoa.

[Lily]

Right. And then the temple gets destroyed, what, 40 years later after that, and so they can't do sacrifices anymore.

[Andrew]

Wait, that's from the. That's a. Like a Jewish cult.

[Lily]

It is written in the Talmud.

[Andrew]

So that was.

[Lily]

Yet they don't acknowledge Christ.

[Andrew]

Yeah, that's. That was my confusion.

[Lily]

They don't talk about it. They just say after this time period, they stop turning white. Yeah, it wasn't. They don't say after Christ died, it was this. They. They basically matched it up. Historians did. And they're like, it's a coincidence.

[Josh]

I think it was 33 AD, maybe 35.

[Andrew]

I don't know.

[Lily]

It wasn't important.

[Josh]

That is crazy, though.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

So wild.

[Andrew]

What is the definition of a cult?

[Josh]

A cult?

[Andrew]

Yeah. Like, what makes something welcome to Sunday Cool?

[Andy]

I'll look it up.

[Andrew]

I feel like I throw that word around quite often and don't complain.

[Josh]

There has to be, like, a leader and manipulation involved.

[Lily]

I think it's like when they start saying that you can't, like, talk to your loved ones, that's when it starts getting spooky. Cult.

[Andy]

It's kind of vague. A relatively small group of people having beliefs or practices, especially relating to religion, that are regarded by others as strange or sinister or as imposing excessive control. Over members.

[Lily]

So it's subjective.

[Andy]

Yeah, very. Yeah.

[Andrew]

I think it's interesting that small is a contingent.

[Andy]

Yeah, that's also subjective. How small is it? Like, you know, five people can, you know, 300 people, a thousand people compared to the whole world is pretty big. So.

[Josh]

Yeah. Didn't you have an ancient technology story, Greek fire?

[Andrew]

Have you guys ever heard of this?

[Andy]

No.

[Josh]

That's what happens to me after I eat a gyro spicy Euro.

[Andrew]

Okay, let me pull up my notes on there. This, because I did a ton of research, but it's crazy. So there's this. There's this weapon that was used in between like 600 A.D. and like 6 17. Sorry, 7 17. 7 18. So what happens? Constantinople is established Christian capital city. It's on a peninsula. And shout out Eastern Orthodox. The Islamic forces to the east are about to cross through modern day Turkey and take over this entire region. So they are a far superior force. Historians estimate somewhere around like 10 to 12,000 in troop size. As I let me, you know, this is 100.

[Lily]

This is.

[Josh]

No, this is before. This is not too far before.

[Andrew]

Correction, the. The Byzantine defenders were 10 to 12 the ones.

[Josh]

No, it was during it. Yeah, you're right.

[Lily]

So was this like, leading to the Crusades?

[Andrew]

And So in the 600s, I believe is when Muhammad died. And then his successors were in response doing this like defensive jihad. And it's around this time when they start trying to take Constantinople that it's gone from defensive to like, expansive. And so this is kind of the era that we're in. But I'm gonna try my best to say this. The Umayyad Caliphate is the name of this Islamic force that's like taking over the region. But they were 80 to 100,000 troops and their goal was to crush the capital city, Constantinople. So they have moved across the land bridge, they have closed them in on the peninsula. And if you look at a map and I'll pull this up, I'll put it on the screen for the viewers. But do you see this body of water?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

So there's this sea. Constantinople is the brown bit right here. And above them is another little gulf. And so the naval fleet of the Byzantine Empire has like, they've fled. There's about, I think, a thousand ships. And then they have about 300, give or take. The 300 have like just. They fled. They're back in this gulf. And so the. The Islamic forces have trapped them. They've walled them in. And then the sea fairing Islamic forces. I mean, it's like Everything is abysmal. They try to land troops in this gulf and then right as they begin to approach these small ships come. Remember, this is like 4 to 1, like super negative odds. They press in and out of nowhere, these bronze structures on the front of these ships begin shooting fire. But they say it burns so bright and so hot, historians say that water could not douse it. It actually made the reaction worse. And so a seafaring people, the. The only thing that you're terrified of is catching fire because you can't evade that. You can't even jump in the water because the water, whatever this reaction is, it's getting worse.

[Lily]

It's like boiling like oil or something.

[Andrew]

So they think it was some sort of like crude oil mixed with a pine tar and maybe quicklime.

[Lily]

Wow.

[Andrew]

But even to this day, people haven't been able to recreate a substance that does exactly what it does. But the science was so advanced for the time. So on the front of these ships, they've actually like recreated what it was. They had a siphon system. So there's like records of actual pumps in the bottom of these ships. And they could shoot like yards. Like, I mean, for back then to be able to not even be like, close enough to like, you know, you're not throwing a spear, but you're shooting fire. Like it, it apparently sounded like a windstorm. It exploded when it reacted with water. So they would just sweep in, catch everything on fire and then everything falls apart. What's crazy is, remember, this is the Christian empire. That's like the capital city. They're guarding this. And the records go. A historian in the 900s wrote the account of where it came from. And it was. Get it, get it. Let me get it.

[Andy]

Imagine how terrifying that would be. My mom, bright light coming right towards you. Blow up your ship.

[Lily]

She never told me that. Don't put oil fire out with water. She never told me that. And once I was roasting marshmallows over a candle and it got too crazy because I was putting my toothpicks in it after it got really big, like Lampoo right in my face. Singed my eyebrows.

[Andrew]

Speaking of Thanksgiving, those deep fried turkey fires that people put out with water are always fun to watch. But anyways, the emperor in question, Constantine VII, he ruled about 913 to 959. In his work De Administrata Imperio stated that the secret of Greek fire was shown and revealed by an angel to the great and holy first Christian emperor Constantine, and that the weapon should only be Manufactured for Christians and in the Imperial. Imperial city. So apparently they claim an angel revealed the tech and it was only guarded and used by a very select few people. They actually, each person involved in the siphon and the use of the weapon, they wouldn't teach each person how to do it. So, like, you couldn't operate the ship in its entirety. One dude knew how to pump the siphon, the other dude knew how to load it. Like it was completely guarded. And the reason it died out is it was a secret knowledge in that. In that document that that emperor in the 900s wrote. It's literally the manuscript for how to run the kingdom for his son. He didn't even put what was there. It was. Several people know what it is, and we don't talk about it. Apparently even where it was manufactured in that city was secret and the captains would use it. But the rumor is that an angel came and gave him the tech. But there's depictions. Apparently they even created hand siphons. So people would go up barricades, pumping these things, and they would be shooting this concoction of flame like 30ft. And it's what allowed, you know, a 1 to 10 army to defend a city that had been completely blocked off. They actually they over. They overcame the siege. It was 7:17 to 7:18.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

With the use of this weapon called Greek Fire.

[Lily]

Very cool.

[Andy]

Amazing.

[Josh]

So that was their first. Or was that in the nine hundreds? Was that the first time that they claimed that it was knowledge from an angel that gave it to him?

[Andrew]

It was. I think that's where the angel narrative comes from is in the 900s, but it had been used in the late 600s.

[Josh]

I see.

[Andrew]

And so. But it was so secret, crazy new tech. No one talked about it. So it makes sense in the narrative that we were like. Or that they were like, we're not gonna what weapon? Until you see it. But just imagine because these old wood ships and then a bra. It was bronze. So this shiny bronze. You're like looking at all these ships, and apparently they did barricades on the front of the ships around the people using them. But imagine being on the water, hearing these rumors, and then you see that glistening weapon and you're like, oh, my gosh.

[Andy]

Yeah, dude. Yeah.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

I mean, it sounds like a flamethrower.

[Andrew]

It is. Yeah. It was the first use of weaponized like flamethrowers.

[Andy]

Wow. That back then, like when that didn't even cross your mind. It's like a Native American seeing a gun for the first time. You're like, what is that?

[Josh]

It's like us seeing, like, a laser beam shooting blow up a ship.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

You'd be like, what?

[Andrew]

Well, think. Think about the tech. I mean, from the 600s until after the 900s, like, this is like 300 years where this weapon was the weapon. And it's what. So they say the reason that the Islamic forces weren't able to overtake that city, if they had done that, you look at how the land bridge works. They're moving into all of Europe, and they were expanding fast. So it was that stand. Like, that's their Alamo. You know what I mean? Like, that's what allowed. That's what held Islam from taking over Europe.

[Josh]

That's fascinating.

[Andrew]

Crazy.

[Andy]

The fear that that would send throughout the whole. All of the colonies, like, everywhere. That would just. Yeah, like, don't mess with them. You can't.

[Josh]

That's crazy. That's so cool.

[Andrew]

They would fill clay pots with it too, and they would. They would light it. Like they had, like, a burning wick is what they would say. And they would launch it through the air. And so it just. You'd be looking at, like, just a pot. And then when it hit the ground, just. And then, like, that's when you found out you were under attack by that, like, you know, mythical weapon that you heard.

[Andy]

And when you see, it's too late.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Golly, man, that's cool. Yeah.

[Andy]

So cool.

[Lily]

Where is modern day Constantinople?

[Andrew]

Turkey.

[Josh]

Constantinople. Constantinople. Constantinople, Turkey.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Lily]

That would be cool to go to.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Yeah. I guess we have Eastern Orthodox.

[Andy]

We can all get hair transplants when we go there.

[Josh]

Yes.

[Lily]

Why do they do that there?

[Andy]

Turkey's, like, the most, like, affordable hair transplant place. Like, guys all over in America are just, like, instead of paying, I don't know how much it is, it's like, to get a hair transplant, but you, like, go there for, like, two. Two grand.

[Lily]

Wow.

[Andy]

And it's like, they're incredible.

[Lily]

Apparently we'll have a whole itinerary plan.

[Andy]

Let's do it.

[Josh]

Apparently they just recently came out with, like, a. Some type of serum or something that is proven to have men that are going bald. Their hair grows back naturally.

[Andy]

Really?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

I'm okay. All right.

[Andrew]

We tell AD Brought to you by Hems.

[Andy]

I know. I always remember when I joked around with Ada when she was a little bit younger. Just, like, taking off my hand, she's like, where'd your hair go? I said, I can't find it.

[Josh]

We tell her if she eats her boogers, her hair falls out. She said, Chris did it. Yeah. Chris ate his boogers.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Andy did it.

[Lily]

Keegan.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Bad boys, they all eat their boogers.

[Josh]

Speaking of eating boogers.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Don't you have a mortician story?

[Andy]

Oh, I do. You wanna talk about the mortician?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Okay. This is creepy. I just watched a documentary. It's called the Mortician on hbo, and it's absolutely. Golly, let me look up his name. Because I wasn't prepared to talk about that until. Patreon. Sorry.

[Josh]

Sorry.

[Andrew]

While you're looking at. I forgot one detail about the Greek fire. The weirdest thing is most sources don't claim to know an inventor. The. The first place that I found that claimed a human inventor was the Smithsonian. Like the narrative. Yeah. Their video was the one that were like, this guy invented it. And everything else I was looking up was like, people are unsure where it came from. And the Smithsonian was like, that man did it.

[Josh]

They're hiding stuff, bro. They're hiding stuff.

[Lily]

Interesting.

[Josh]

Okay, well, they want to control the narrative maybe.

[Andy]

Hey, give them some credit. They just want to tell a good story.

[Josh]

Trying to bring unity before you get into that Smithsonian. I don't know if I mentioned it. Did I mention it when we were talking about Trump's Ballroom of, like, how much it costs per square foot?

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

There's only one other building in the United States that almost. It was about like $2,000 a square foot for renovation. The Smithsonian. What are they doing?

[Lily]

What are they doing?

[Andrew]

They're digging private data servers, dude.

[Andy]

They're digging.

[Josh]

I don't know.

[Andy]

I don't know.

[Josh]

All right, Mortician.

[Andy]

So documentary on hbo, Max, called the Mortician. I just clicked on it because it was three episodes. Like, I'll watch that. And it kind of blew my mind just simply because it's just a story that's kind of recent. This happened in the 80s, but there was a funeral home in Altadena, California, and it was called the Lamb. Lamb Funeral Home. And it was owned by a family for generations. And, you know, it was the Lamb family. And they went through. And it was just a well known, well respected funeral home within that area. And they had a crematorium and everything like that. And their son David was going to play. He was at college playing football, and he loved it. He wanted to become a teacher, and so he had a great life ahead of him. But then he got hurt in football, and so he couldn't. He wasn't eligible for the next year. And so he was sitting at home wondering, what am I going to do? What am I gonna do? His parents came to him and said, listen, we run the funeral home. You know, this. Come work for us, go to school, take this class. It's not too much. Go learn how to become a mortician. And so he had learned how to, you know, embalm, you know, when he was a kid. Like when he was 12 years old, they had like people teaching him how to embalm and stuff like that. And so he went to school and became certified to become a mortician, started working for his family's funeral home. And immediately sales just started cranking up because he just was very efficient and doing a lot of things. And so he hired some like local college kids, big, big guys to help with the services and stuff. And over time, people are looking around and like, you know, competitors, other funeral homes are like looking and saying, how is this business doing? How is their business doing so well? It's to going like crazy how busy they are because they only had two burners in their crematory. And at, you know, during a day, you could only do with two burners. You can only do four burns a day possibly if you're not running overnights and stuff. Because you have to cook and burn a body and then you have to let that. Yeah, cook medium rare. You have to let that the oven die down and then you have to, you know, you could do it. So like in an eight hour day, you can only do one. I mean, two per burner. Yeah, this guy was doing hundreds a day, a week and then a day. And it just kept getting weirder and weirder. He was hiring these guys, he got a 14 foot box truck to start picking up bodies. And these people that are talking, who worked for him, David Sconce, they started like driving around and they're like, you have no idea how many people die per day. But they show photos of the box truck, what they would do. They would grab the people no matter what they were in, and they put them in, like in a long triangle cardboard. Like, so they put the person on the cardboard and then they have two folds and they would, no joke, you open up the back of this box truck, just stacked bodies on top of.

[Lily]

Each other, not even a layer between.

[Andy]

Them, top of each other.

[Andrew]

Oh my gosh.

[Andy]

So the whole thing was happening when you were only supposed to burn one body at a time. He was putting in multiple bodies into the burner all at once and mixing up everybody's ashes in mixing, which is, was at the time a misdemeanor. So he was like, it's not a big deal, whatever. And so he was handing out ashes to families that weren't even their loved ones, that weren't even their loved ones. Hundreds and hundreds of people were victims of this. And it only gets worse because the guys that were working for David walk in on him sometimes, and they see him having tools inside these people's mouths and, like, what is he doing? And he would go over and he would pull out certain teeth and he would crack them, and he would take out the gold fillings.

[Josh]

Oh, my God.

[Andy]

And he would look at the people that he was working for and says, this is how we pay you. What?

[Andrew]

You.

[Andy]

We pay you. And he would collect the gold from these people. Now, one day, some of the workers, you know, they. He didn't have the, like, you know, the. The best of workers as far as, you know, like, just people who are outstanding in, you know, society. So they're there smoking heroin and, you know, and they pass out and they leave. And then suddenly he get. David gets a call saying, the. The crematory is on fire, so the whole place burnt down. And other funeral homes, like I said, were obviously like, you know, like, suspicious of this activity. How were they doing this? We. We're in this business. How are they pulling this off? So when they found out the place burned down, they're like, okay, well, you know, business is going to slow down for them. It didn't at all. Now, at that time, before I continue with that, there was a guy named Tim Waters who owned a funeral home. Big guy. And he was just talking trash on David and how he ran things because he says, something's up, there's something going on. I don't like it. There's something going on with David. He's doing something sketchy. A couple weeks later, Tim Waters dead in his apartment. Apparently a heart attack. So after the crematory burns down, business keeps going, even increases. And so people are like, what is happening? What David did is he bought a huge warehouse for ceramic tile business in the desert outside of town. A huge factory building, kind of like what we have, you know, like just one of our buildings. And so there's. They were burning bodies inside these kilns.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

For ceramic tiles. And it got so smoky in there that the guy who's working, after loading up the bodies would go sit out in his car. He had a TV in his car and everything. And he would just sit out there and he would smoke and watch TV until the round's done. He had to clean out the bodies, but the smoke. And there it would get so hot, you could literally out of the smokestack, there was fire even showing through. So neighbors were starting to complain. That one. There's this awful smell. It looks like there's a fire happening in there more than normal. And apparently one of the neighbors used to was one of the guys who liberated Auschwitz.

[Lily]

And so when he knew, he knew what was up.

[Andy]

So when he smelt that smoke, how triggering. I know what that smell is. You have to check this out. Police show up. The guy comes to the gate and says, I'm not letting you in. Na, na, na, na. More and more people show up to the point where they have a subpoena, like a warrant, and they say, you have to let us in. And David gets a call and he says, don't let him in. They said, listen, we've been caught. We got to do it. They go into this place, they stop what's burning. No joke. When they show up inside these kilns, 200 bodies being burned at the same time.

[Josh]

Oh, my gosh.

[Andy]

Within a couple years, this dude had burned over thousands and thousands and thousands of bodies illegally. It gets crazier.

[Lily]

Was he killing people?

[Andy]

Because not. Not technically. He never got caught. He was accused of murdering three people. He was a guy who was like the ant. The. Was that book like the. Like the bombs and stuff, like the book that you read? I can't remember the name of the. It's like a anarchist cookbook.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Andy]

And there's like a.

[Josh]

Gruber.

[Andy]

But apparently Tim Wall Waters was apparently poisoned. But when they tested him later on, years and years later, there was no poison found. But Oriander is a. As a plant that was very, very common in that area. And when John was being held in jail for all these, you know, accusations, he had bragged and even talked about it and wrote about it that he had killed these people. And so. But it never got. Never got pinned on him. But it turns out after they started, you know, going through all this stuff, he's in jail, they start going through his crematorium, all these things and all their files. They start finding photos of, you know, some of them doing, like, you know, like, just prepping the bodies and stuff. And they're looking closer and closer and they're looking at the tools. They're like, this is not tools you would need to prep a body for burning or for a funeral home. What are you doing? It was surgical tools.

[Lily]

Oh, boy.

[Andy]

So what they had done is started this, you know, weird Organization with some other people saying, listen, we'll sell you these body parts before we burn. And we make money more that way. And so they were taking eyeballs. They were taking body parts and teeth and all this stuff and donating it, giving it, selling it to science, and so making profit off of that. And so families are coming forward and saying, listen, we did not sign this. We didn't. We never said this was okay. Everyone's coming out about it, and it says, yeah, you did. It was in the paperwork. Turns out the mom that ran the funeral home was forging signatures all of these years and even misspelled a lot of the people's last names. It's like, well, there you go. And so apparently this has been going on four years in this family business. They would take out teeth, the gold fillings, all of this stuff. And this guy got basically, I think, three years in jail. What? Dude, he is free. Free.

[Josh]

Did they interview him in the thing?

[Andy]

He is an open book, dude. He's like, hey, there's nothing, you know, there's. There's nothing off the table that I won't, you know, I'll talk about anything. Oh, my God. The dude's delusional. Dude, you could tell he's absolutely still alive, though. Still alive.

[Andrew]

So he just called out a living killer.

[Josh]

I mean, he's.

[Andrew]

He's cool.

[Andy]

He's cool, though.

[Lily]

Where were his parents this whole time? And was he in high school when he was doing this? Or he grew up.

[Andrew]

12 would be younger.

[Andy]

Well, he was. He was like. Well, yeah, he learned how. Because he raised. Was raised in the family business.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And so when he. Yeah, he started after college. Because he dropped. Yeah.

[Lily]

Because it was in college he got his injury. Not in high school.

[Andy]

College, because that. He was playing college football.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

So imagine if he didn't get injured. None of this would have happened. He would have continued, and he would have became a teacher. It would have been great. But his parents kind of, like, forced him into this business, and his mom, like, it was crazy. They looked at her notes and they knew she had written down how much an average male weighed for dust, for ashes, a woman, a child, all this stuff. So they had everything on record of, like, how to do this, like, way.

[Lily]

To do these formulas.

[Josh]

It's terrible.

[Andy]

Awful. I couldn't believe it. I was like. Because it just kept getting worse and worse and worse. But, yeah, dude, it's also.

[Josh]

Where were they? Were there so many people dying?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Why California? I mean, just Southern California.

[Lily]

Like, people just be dying like, that all the time.

[Andy]

That's what they did. I mean, like, you, dude, I'm telling you. They show you pictures of the box drop truck, and it's like, this is.

[Josh]

I didn't think that many people, like, died.

[Andy]

That's what the guy said. He's like, you. I didn't think it was this. Like, you don't realize how many people die every day.

[Josh]

Oh, my gosh.

[Andy]

Yeah. But now there's, like, just so many regulations and, like, stuff put in place because of this.

[Lily]

Yeah, yeah. I'm thinking this whole time, I'm going, oh, so they were stealing organs. How many times does that happen? How many groups are doing that? Yeah, dude, it's probably really common.

[Andy]

100%. I mean, you have to. It's so valuable.

[Josh]

So it was like, that funeral home that. I don't know the situation now, but how. Basically, these people were sending their loved ones to this funeral home, and they're just basically ghosted. And then all these neighbors are reporting. Oh, it was like, they're supposed to, like, this, like, natural, like, funeral home or whatever, where it's like they, like, just put them in the earth or something like that. And then neighbors are reporting, there's a smell coming.

[Andy]

Oh, no.

[Josh]

Apparently there's, like, hundreds of bodies just decaying in this funeral home.

[Andy]

Geez, dude.

[Josh]

Lights out, locked doors. They couldn't get a hold of the owner for, like, a week or something, so the police had to go search for him.

[Lily]

Was he on vacation?

[Josh]

I don't know.

[Lily]

For the record, I don't want to be embalmed.

[Josh]

I don't either. I want to pine box.

[Lily]

Pine box in the ground.

[Andy]

I don't want you to spend a dollar. So I'm saying on this, like, legitimately, like, I don't even.

[Josh]

Like, as soon as I croak, just throw me in. I'll make my own box.

[Andrew]

I was about to say, like, let's do it.

[Josh]

How old?

[Andrew]

85.

[Josh]

Just to be when I'll die.

[Andrew]

No, like, when we build 120. When we build the box.

[Josh]

I'll build it sooner than that. Just keep it on hand.

[Lily]

I'm gonna have an. When I walk into the woodshop and I see you building your casket, I'm gonna have an existential crisis. Hide it from me, but also make me one.

[Josh]

I'll make a nice.

[Andy]

It's creepier for him to just hide it from you and, like, be working at, like, 3am and then what does that do? Just working on your box.

[Josh]

I'll make it nice. I'll do Like a little nice dovetail joint. Do like an inlay on top.

[Andrew]

Starting to sound. Not like a basic pine box.

[Josh]

It'll be a nice pine box. I need to hold up a little bit.

[Andrew]

This is the catalyst for the Hooper business of building coffins.

[Lily]

Maybe put some air holes in mine in case I'm still alive.

[Josh]

I do want a bell.

[Andrew]

I'm.

[Josh]

I'm going to make mine where it has the belly.

[Andrew]

The old school thing.

[Lily]

Please.

[Josh]

Cuz that's. That's my worst fear.

[Andrew]

Yeah. With one of those. What's the machine that we studied that, like, has gears on gears on gears.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah.

[Andrew]

Like, do that. So the Google gear, like, every three years it goes ting.

[Andy]

What it. What is it? On the office. Whenever they're at Dwight's and they're burying somebody and then they take. They do a real nice service. And then he takes a shotgun and shoots them. He's like, just in case.

[Andrew]

What do you.

[Josh]

Did you ever see that video? It was this. It was like someone's grandpa. And this was his, like, last request.

[Andrew]

Yes.

[Josh]

And they put a speaker.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

It was like, hey, let's get me out of here. That was his request. It's so funny.

[Andy]

I don't. But that's the thing. I don't want any money spent. I think that's the. I don't know. For me.

[Josh]

What about on the after party?

[Andy]

By o. S being your own side, I mean, everyone just breaks their own celebration. Oh, man.

[Lily]

I just indicated my grandfather's way, and that was a really good time.

[Andy]

It was fun.

[Lily]

I like the idea of having a big old Irish wake.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And a party. And people were dancing after dancing in the kitchen.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

I want my mind to be very fun.

[Andy]

Yeah. But people spend thousands on coffins, dude.

[Josh]

Right?

[Andrew]

What are we doing?

[Lily]

I know.

[Josh]

I give you, like, give me, give. You guys get like, two days to cry about me, and then. Then you get to party.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Andy]

Deal.

[Lily]

I'm going.

[Andy]

Can I do three. Can I do three days of crying? Feel like I'm gonna need it.

[Josh]

All right.

[Andy]

All right.

[Andrew]

Before we get to the end of all things, because I know this is long, but I want to stay ahead of news and things breaking. And speaking of people dying, have you guys seen the cleanup that happened? The university where Mr. Kirk was assassinated?

[Lily]

What happened?

[Andrew]

So you know how the location they. We talked about, like, they did, like, cleanup efforts or whatever. And it was weird that there was that opening underneath the stage or whatever. Like there was a tunnel and they filled it with concrete immediately after it happened. I didn't know.

[Josh]

There's a tunnel.

[Andrew]

Yeah, there's a hole into the ground, like, underneath where he was.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Andy]

It's like, like a great kind of thing. Like, like water drainage and stuff like that.

[Andrew]

But it was right there. Well, it has now been filled up with concrete.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Andrew]

Which is like. And it happened, like, immediately. Like, it was within days. They filled it all with concrete. And like, people were saying, oh, and like, they put mud across, like, the back of the thing. They. They concreted and spackled the whole thing. And they're like, we just assumed.

[Josh]

Which is weird for a crime.

[Andrew]

It's weird for a crime scene. Yeah. We're like, hey, let's just assume that they're trying to, like, get campus feeling normal and not have kids crawling underground trying to, like, be the next. Next person to figure out the conspiracy. Okay, well, what's the name of the guy that they're saying pulled the trigger?

[Josh]

Tyler.

[Andrew]

Tyler. What's his last name?

[Josh]

I don't. Robinson.

[Andrew]

Tyler Robinson.

[Josh]

I don't remember every. Any name.

[Andrew]

So you're killing. You're killing it.

[Lily]

Good job.

[Andrew]

The company that the university allegedly hired to fill that all up with concrete is owned by his father. What?

[Andy]

That can't be true.

[Andrew]

It's breaking. Dude. What? It's weird.

[Andy]

I don't like this.

[Josh]

This whole thing is weird.

[Lily]

I really feel like I'm being bamboozled.

[Andrew]

So I fact checked it, and what it said is the university is not releasing that information, but now there's like, person after person after person running with that narrative. And I didn't find it. Like, if it. That's an easy thing to deny, why does it matter? The company that was hired to do it, just say, no, it's this company.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

And it's true. Like, it's not a. Like, it's not a thing. So what they do know is that the owner of the company that did it does have the same name as his father. And so they're like, there's just too many. Like, I can't. The fact that I can't find a straight up denial that it's true.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Is like. Is, like, weird.

[Josh]

There's so much stuff. And I know Candace Owens. I haven't. I have not been keeping up at all with the conspiracy. I'm waiting until they, like, accumulate to, like, really look into it.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Because it's like every week there's. It feels like there's something new and then it gets discredited.

[Andy]

And then every day it seems like she's like, this is the day we blow the roof off. Like, it's like, okay, but can someone just sum it up, please?

[Josh]

Someone? I saw Tucker was just, like, interviewed or interviewed this, like, TV host or of this news station in the uk and the guy was like, basically, your friend Candace. Your friend Candace.

[Andy]

Yes.

[Josh]

Is being a little wacko with all this. I mean, he's basically trying to get him to, like, discredit Candace. And he's like, I'm not gonna do that.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

He said, this is the issue. He's like, why is it. Why are we trying to silence people that are just seeking truth?

[Andy]

Sure.

[Josh]

Like, even if she says stuff that is completely speculative and, like, maybe false, at least she's looking for the truth, and we shouldn't shut those people down.

[Lily]

Yeah. And then. And then if, you know, she says something like, really challenging, then you take it to court like we do in America. You know what I'm saying?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And that is what Eric is doing. She just sued her for $90 million.

[Josh]

Really?

[Andy]

What?

[Andrew]

I haven't heard that yet.

[Andy]

She sued Candace?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Whoa, let me pull it up.

[Lily]

No, but they're going to court, so nobody. It's not gone to court yet, and they've not.

[Josh]

Over what, defamation or something.

[Andrew]

Wow.

[Andy]

What has happened? It's all so messy, dude.

[Lily]

You know, it's so weird, actually, I didn't know this. I'm Googling Candace right now because I wanted to look up. It's either $90 million or 90 million dol. Billion. And I think it's 90 million.

[Josh]

I will say this. I wanted to kind of reiterate on what I was saying. When you are seeking for truth, you shouldn't stop those people. But at the same time, if you're seeking truth, maybe don't publish everything that you're finding. Maybe try to do some hardcore reason, do your research, and then when you find the truth. But if you're. If you're going on and you're like this, and then this. It's like, it's. It gets messy.

[Andrew]

There are details that are concrete. The hypothesis might not be. Be sure you're drawing your hypothesis. Hypothesis from something you can actually present.

[Josh]

Right.

[Andrew]

Or right after I just said that his dad owns a concert.

[Lily]

Or like. Or at least say it that way. Like, I believe it to be this. And this is what makes me feel that way. But she speaks, in fact, like, she's like, this is what happened. This is what we're doing.

[Andrew]

Yeah, sure.

[Lily]

Candace's husband ran Turning Point uk.

[Josh]

Wow.

[Andy]

I don't.

[Andrew]

She worked. She Worked for.

[Josh]

Yeah, she worked for Turning Point.

[Lily]

Oh, she did?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

That was. They were buddies.

[Lily]

I knew they were friends. I didn't know it was through that.

[Andy]

I didn't see. I don't see anything about the suing.

[Lily]

I got it on Jerry News. Hold on.

[Andy]

Oh, Jerry said that.

[Lily]

Jerry said it.

[Josh]

This is today. You saw that?

[Lily]

No.

[Andrew]

Weird world.

[Andy]

Either way, I'm not seeing it. Well, that'd be crazy.

[Josh]

That's crazy. No, it's also crazy is that we just interviewed Kai Dickens.

[Andy]

Yes.

[Josh]

From the telepathy tapes. And guess what? You can go watch that interview on Patreon or If you're a YouTube member, we got it there for you. It's the first year we're going to do it. First tier for YouTube members and for all Patreon users. Crazy interview. I. There's some things that we obviously do not agree with, with some things Kai believes in. That's okay. It's. It was a one hour interview.

[Andy]

She was awesome.

[Josh]

She was super awesome. Very nice. Learn a crazy thing and.

[Andy]

Yeah, I don't think.

[Josh]

I don't think anyone's ever asked her that question.

[Andrew]

No.

[Andy]

That's some breaking news. I think as far as I'm concerned, that's nuts.

[Josh]

So go check that out. But on our Patreon episode right after this, I do want to talk about some of the stuff that.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

We talked about on that.

[Andrew]

And please join us on Patreon because when we break what we're gonna break on, that our monetization might get a hit from the powers of B. Yes. Yeah. Help. For real.

[Josh]

But anyways, happy Thanksgiving, everyone. Hey, make sure to go review us or subscribe wherever you're watching or listening. Really helps us out. And when this is out, we got a new design.

[Andy]

Oh, look at it.

[Josh]

We got a new design of Thanksgiving miracle new shirt. And we're coming out with a lot of new merch too, folks. So go to sundaycoolswag.com to get that.

[Andy]

Absolutely. We appreciate you supporting the show and we're glad you're here. We love you.

[Josh]

Yeah, we love you so much. And we'll see on Patreon and YouTube members.

[Andrew]

We want to do a shout out for this.

[Andy]

Oh, yeah.

[Josh]

Before we go.

[Andy]

Yeah. Awesome. First of all, my buddy Eric Edwards dropping this book. It's a kind of a comic book style. Talk about a lot of the Revelation in the Bible. It's pretty neat, pretty cool, really cool artwork. Alphanomega.com and you get a discount. Use code ninjas. Also, we got a big two boxes today. We had no idea. We were not expecting this. This is from the Boit Harness Company. Ashley. Ashley Donahoe. Donahoe.

[Josh]

Who's on Patreon, right?

[Andy]

She's on Patreon, Yes. And she. She started this company and company called Boy Boyd Hardest Company.

[Andrew]

Oh, this is Mud River.

[Andy]

Mud River Company.

[Josh]

Oh, is it. It's just like she. It's like an outfitter or something.

[Andy]

I think so, yeah.

[Josh]

Sorry, we did not really research this.

[Andy]

No, you're good.

[Josh]

We just got the box.

[Andrew]

I'm just stoked on it all. So, yeah, this is Boyd Harness Company. And then this is.

[Josh]

That's a diaper bag.

[Andrew]

This is a camo diaper bag.

[Lily]

How cute is that?

[Andrew]

And a boho holster. I'm fired up about that.

[Josh]

And they sent me a present that I'm going to open on Patreon.

[Andy]

Absolutely. And they got us like rifle cases and stuff.

[Josh]

I mean, legit chaps, dog collars.

[Andrew]

We don't own dog guns, though, so.

[Andy]

Portable dog bowls. It's awesome. So you can go to their website. It doesn't have the website here, but just type in Boyt harness company and ninja. 20 for 20 off. Not a sponsor. We just love them.

[Josh]

Yeah. All right, guys, we love you.

[Lily]

Bye.

[Josh]

Bye.

[Lily]

What you're about to see.

[Andrew]

Multi deck decade.

[Andy]

UAP Dolphins are aliens.

[Josh]

Bottle nose fish Pigs was a massive.

[Lily]

Police response.

[Andrew]

Dolphin sty.

[Josh]

Oh, no.

[Andy]

Sam.