177 - Lake Van Ancient Sea Monster, Rwanda Genocide & Soccer Violence

Summary

Ninjas Are Butterflies - Episode 177 Summary

Episode Title: Lake Van Ancient Sea Monster, Rwanda Genocide & Soccer Violence
Air Date: January 16, 2026
Hosts: Josh Hooper, Andy DeNoon, and the NAB crew

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Episode Overview

In this wide-ranging and characteristically boisterous episode, the Ninjas Are Butterflies team brings their comedic, chaotic spirit to an array of dark and bizarre stories. The hosts swap wild tales about brutal soccer violence in Brazil, the horrors of the 1994 Rwandan genocide (and America's murky role), and the legends and mysteries of Turkey’s Lake Van, said to be home to an ancient fortress and a cryptid sea monster. True to form, the show is packed with side-splitting banter, sharp asides, pop culture detours, and just enough social commentary to keep things punchy—while never losing sight of the strange and the supernatural.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Lily’s Go-Kart Injury & Surreal Hospital Story

00:40 – 16:12

• Lily recounts her go-kart accident and the ordeal with a dislocated elbow:
  • Describes how a child's go-kart accident led her to a trippy ketamine-induced out-of-body experience at the hospital.
  • Notable quote:
    • “I forget I’m a person. Okay. I think—I literally feel like I’m a molecule in the universe just jumping around.” (C/Lily, 11:08)
  • The staff’s dark humor, her fear, and the sense of helplessness are offset by the group’s comedic riffing.
  • She describes her vision of Josh as her “little guiding creature,” realizing, “You and I are soulmates… my little guiding… and then I’m starting to come out of it and I’m seeing you like this a little bit, then I get dizzy again…” (C/Lily, 12:53)
  • The procedure was traumatic: “I’m pleading with the Lord to accept my soul into heaven…” (C/Lily, 13:23)
  • The group jokes about the experience, maintaining comedic tone even through darker details.

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2. Venezuela, Empires & US Foreign Policy Chess

17:01 – 48:14

• A satirical musical number, “That’s The American Way,” lampoons U.S. interventionism—dedicated, with a wink, to Venezuela.
  • “You’ve got it, we want it, we’ll take it with both hands…” (A: 17:29)
• The group recaps the recent U.S. raid and abduction of Venezuelan President Maduro:
  • “The first week of 2026, the US, in the middle of the night, does a secret raid…” (A, 37:04)
  • Speculation about oil (“Venezuela has the largest oil reserve in the world… but it’s super crude, very glunky.” – D, 36:33).
  • Biden’s and Trump’s approaches—suggesting the raid serves multiple power-play agendas in the global struggle with China and Russia.
• They debate whether these maneuvers are motivated by humanitarian concerns, realpolitik, or economic gain.
  • “I think it is a—we’re playing chess right now with China.” (D, 40:44)
  • “Someone controls this world, I don’t know who.” / “God does.” (D/A, 49:13-49:17)
• Discussion moves to the ethics and practicalities of tax strikes, education, and America’s penchant for coups:
  • “With history of America forming coups in countries, typically... they have not put into place an amazing leader.” (D, 44:08)
  • On the Iran coup: “Not partially. Fully responsible.” (D, 45:26)
• Satirize America’s global ambitions: “He was talking to this one guy… seems like we’re moving out of the stage of a republic and into an empire.” (D, 46:47)

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3. The Rwanda Genocide & The Tragedy of International Inaction

67:02 – 77:03

• Josh offers a serious, detailed summary of the 1994 Rwandan genocide, highlighting international indifference:
  • The Hutu regime’s propaganda (“Tutsi people are cockroaches, exterminate the cockroaches!” – D, 68:00)
  • UN and US withdrawal; Bill Clinton’s policies:
    • “The UN pulled out 90% of their peacekeepers in Rwanda.” (D, 69:28)
    • “Bill Clinton and them… refused to call it a genocide.” (D, 69:30)
    • “Presidential Decision Directive 25… If it doesn’t benefit the US, we’re not going to get involved.” (D, 70:10)
  • Callous Pentagon response to radio propaganda: “It would go against the constitutional principle of freedom of speech.” (D, 72:18)
  • Aftermath: 800,000 mostly Tutsi killed in 100 days; ultimate realignment of Rwanda with US—possibly to open trade from Congo (“...opened up trade routes from the Congo, so... the US had full access to the Congo resources through Rwanda.” – D, 74:18)
• Key memorable moment:
  • The group is clearly shaken by the magnitude of the tragedy, angry at the cynical refusal of help. “We could have gotten involved…” (D, 75:10)

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4. Brazil’s Ultra-Violent Soccer Referee Incident

79:17 – 83:56

• Andy shares the shocking 2013 story of a fatal amateur soccer match brawl in Brazil:
  • Volunteer ref Octavio da Silva stabs a player after being punched.
  • Player dies en route to hospital, sparking a violent mob attack.
    • “The fans surround this referee and start beating him to death. They grab his limbs and… they quartered this guy. They take off his head… and put it on a stake in the middle of the goal.” (A, 81:39–82:09)
  • Only one person arrested, showing the chaos and groupthink of the moment.
• Notable reaction:
  • “That also is scary of, like, what humans can do.” / “Group think.” (D/C, 84:01–84:03)

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5. Lake Van: Lost Fortress & Monster Legends

87:39 – 94:21

• Josh takes the crew into the weird: Lake Van in Turkey, home to a sunken ancient fortress and cryptid legends.
  • Divers discover a vast stone fortress (2017), possibly Urartu civilization.
    • “These stones, they’re cut perfectly flat… without mortar… from the 9th and 6th century BC.” (D, 90:07)
  • Lake Van “monster”—a Nessie-style cryptid said to be up to 50 ft long, serpentine, “very humpy lake.”
    • “These fishermen say this thing pops up right by their boat, and it’s longer than the boat.” (D, 93:50)
• Broader reflection on how every country has unsolved mysteries and lore:
  • “That’s the thing. We found so much that are on the surface and so we just got to start diving down deep, like into like, picking out a specific country.” (A, 96:44)

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Additional Notable Quotes & Moments

• On the dangers of mob mentality:
  • “Like one second we're watching a soccer game, the next second we're putting someone's head on a stake.” (D, 84:05)
• Comedy persists in the darkest discussions, e.g. during Rwanda recounting or war talk.
• Bizarre “Would You Rather” segment (57:56) involving licking an athlete’s foot with fungus or a stranger’s sweaty armpit—classic NAB gross-out humor.
• Pop culture interludes include movie reviews (“Sinners,” “Black Bag,” “The Phoenician Scheme”) and digressions on Netflix’s “Stranger Things” finale.
• Ongoing running jokes about women drivers, groupthink, and recurring segments like pitching “spooky lake” stories.

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Timestamp | Topic | |-----------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:40–16:12 | Lily’s go-kart injury and hospital ketamine story | | 17:01–48:14 | Venezuela raid, U.S. empire satire, foreign policy debates | | 67:02–77:03 | Rwandan genocide—UN withdrawal, US policy, aftermath | | 79:17–83:56 | Soccer referee murder and aftermath in Brazil | | 87:39–94:21 | Lake Van’s ancient fortress and monster mythology |

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Tone & Style

• Irreverent and witty, with rapid-fire banter.
• Never too serious for long, even with grim themes.
• Deep dives into geopolitics, history, and the supernatural—all filtered through unvarnished curiosity and biting humor.

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For New Listeners

Even if you’ve never heard Ninjas Are Butterflies, this episode is a crash course in the show’s unpredictable blend: true crime, world history, cryptids, comedy, and genuine group chemistry. The hosts’ willingness to alternate between tragedy, wild folklore, and hearty laughter keeps the listener engaged—even (or especially) as the stories descend into the eerie or the horrific.

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End Credits

• Episode brought to you by Sunday Cool Tees and peppered with plenty of self-deprecating product plugs.
• Indy music, Patreon shout-outs, and a call for listener-submitted stories round out the friendly community vibe.

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Final Word:
A rollercoaster ride of weird news, world tragedy, cryptid mystery, and playful sibling-level bickering—with just enough gravitas and skepticism to give the darkness its due.

Transcript

[A]

Heads up, ninjas. Listen, I got a story about a deathly soccer match in Brazil, and you're not gonna believe that.

[B]

Deathly.

[C]

It worked.

[A]

What? What?

[C]

You would say deadly.

[A]

Just critique everything I say, guys.

[D]

I didn't say anything.

[A]

No, you're talking about the whole strangers thing.

[D]

Thing. You looked at me, huh?

[A]

You're like, say something.

[C]

Oh, Josh, I found it, and it's in apopka.

[D]

Lily, please.

[A]

Heads up, everybody. Listen, I got a story about a deadly. No, Dang it. Heads up, everybody. We got a deadly story about a soccer match in Brazil, and it' looking good.

[D]

And speaking of, I can't do the deadly thing with the Rwanda thing. Me literally stabbing myself in the neck. Can't do that.

[B]

Good.

[D]

No, I don't want to do that.

[A]

You say, speaking of deadly, and then throw the. Throw the knife.

[D]

Speaking of deadly, we're going to be talking about the genocide that happened in Rwanda in 1994, and the hidden agenda of the United States of America.

[B]

And there's a lake in Turkey that. There's a lake in Turkey that has a hidden fortress and a sea monster all hiding underneath the surface. Find out more.

[C]

That was great. This podcast is brought to you Empowered by Sunday. Cool. So watch this for a listen. Please.

[B]

Throw the gun at me. Like, throw. Like, pretend to throw it.

[D]

I thought you were gonna do this and then cut it.

[A]

You said fake throw, and you actually threw it harder.

[D]

Well, I mean, for the edit, I misunderstood, too.

[C]

I would have thrown in.

[D]

Right. Fake throw it.

[B]

Throw it hard.

[D]

Coming at me. We are young yeah. With the fire in our hearts what.

[C]

Are you guys singing?

[D]

Some Tik Tok guy. He's like every millennial music band or whatever back in the mid-2000s, like, parodying it.

[A]

Yeah, he's pretty good. The Limp Bizkit one was really insane.

[D]

He's really impressive.

[C]

My uncle Johnny loves Limp Bizkit.

[A]

Kyle Gordon, do you know.

[D]

Look at this. Hold on.

[A]

I love that shirt, by the way. Such.

[D]

I know. It's cool, isn't it?

[C]

Thanks.

[A]

Your shirt is really phenomenal.

[C]

Thanks. I thrifted it.

[A]

I could tell. In a good way. And like a good. Hey, that's. That's a can't believe this is a thrift find kind of way.

[D]

You recognize him?

[A]

Yeah, definitely. That's Petey from Tick Tock. Yeah.

[D]

He is married to the CEO of Fish Wife.

[E]

What?

[A]

How cool is that?

[B]

What's Fish Wife?

[D]

That's the super tin can artisanal canned fish place.

[A]

Tinned fish.

[C]

Fish.

[D]

What did I say?

[A]

Tin canned fish.

[D]

Oh, I brought it. It was the. The Fly By Jing.

[C]

Yeah. They partnered with Fly By Jing and did a Fly By Jing flavored.

[B]

I think I'm losing my mind. I'm forgetting.

[A]

They. It's an incredible, like, cool company.

[C]

You wouldn't be able to forget because their branding is exceptional.

[D]

It really.

[B]

I work at Sunday Cool. I'm used to seeing exceptional branding.

[C]

That's what I'm talking about.

[A]

Plug Sunday.com. get your customers today.

[C]

I heard you guys had a terrible time yesterday setting up the booth.

[A]

It was not fun. It was not fun. We had to carry just an enormous amount of stuff.

[B]

I knew it was bad because I asked Josh, how was it yesterday? And Josh does not start the day excited to talk. But as soon as I asked him that question, I got a 30 minute monologue on how that setup went.

[A]

Josh is really good, though, in the moment. Just not like I'm one of those guys. Like, I. I'm fired up in the moment. Like, I'll do work, but I'm also going to be loud about it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Josh will just, like, keep a positive attitude and get it done and then be like, afterwards. Be like, that is dumb.

[C]

You think so?

[D]

I did.

[C]

That's good.

[D]

I was saying stuff like, hey, how amazing is it that we're right by.

[A]

The loading docks, even though we.

[C]

Even though you moved it a mile away. Yeah, Move it all the way down.

[A]

I carried 500 pounds of concrete all across the conference center, and to be just found that it could have just walked 30ft.

[C]

I bet you guys got a good workout, though. Are you guys sore?

[A]

I'm not sore, no. But it was a good workout.

[D]

Really buff.

[B]

So. Yeah. That's nothing compared to the workout you've been doing, right?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. I just took a picture of myself yesterday without a shirt, and honestly, you'll see the progress. Pretty impressed.

[C]

Wow, that's.

[D]

That is impressive.

[A]

Pretty impressed.

[D]

Thank you, Genesis Health Solutions.

[A]

Thank you, Genesis Health Solutions. This could be you guys. Come on.

[B]

You got to put that away. That's going to change our rating. I know.

[D]

Yep. Hey, Lily's back with her limp arm.

[A]

Limp arm, crippled arm.

[D]

Pick it up. Oh, you know, that's really impressive.

[A]

She can't do her favorite salute anymore, which is a bummer.

[C]

Oh, my gosh.

[A]

How you feeling?

[C]

I feel great.

[A]

Yeah?

[C]

Yeah. It doesn't hurt that much anymore.

[A]

Good.

[C]

It's very sore and I can't do, like, that lotion.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Because all my ligaments are spaghetti in there. And I would really like to hear from a doctor. I did Call a different doctor today. Because here's the deal. They say whip that thing out every now and again and exercise it gently.

[A]

Sure.

[C]

But what's too much?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And so I guess I got really tired of using the wrap splint. So I just have been like letting it literally hang by my side for the past day. And then I just googled that you're not supposed to do that, so.

[D]

Well, for those who don't know. Didn't watch the last episode. Lily got in a goat cart. The doctor, actually, they wrote on her note, a car accident.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

My.

[C]

My GP called me and they're like, I saw you were in a car accident. Call me.

[D]

She got in a four year old go kart accident.

[C]

Yeah. It's a child's go kart that I was literally going 5 miles per hour and maybe less.

[B]

Oh, really?

[C]

Yeah. So slow. I'm not like, I'm not a thrill seeker. So this was not. Yeah, this. And it made me less. This incident has made me less of one solidified.

[A]

You're like, I'm definitely not a thrill seeker.

[C]

No, thank you. Yeah. I was trying to turn and I. On a hill and I literally forgot there's brakes or. I didn't know there were breaks.

[D]

She said at the doctor, I don't know if we said it last episode, did I?

[A]

I don't think so.

[B]

It's fine.

[D]

She said in the hospital, she's like, josh, why don't they make those things with brakes? I said, lily, they do. She's like, where? I said the paddle to the left.

[A]

To the left. Like a car that you drive, even any motorized vehicle.

[D]

It was like a couple days after Lil went to the. Her mom brought her to the doctor.

[C]

Orthopedic doctor.

[D]

And I called And Ada, my 4 year old's in the back seat. I'm like, yeah, like, Ada even knows where the brake is and Ada from the back, which I don't. I told her this once.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

She.

[D]

Ada goes, yeah, mom, the brakes on the left.

[C]

Oh, my gosh. She's a way better driver than I am. But what happened was I was just trying to turn around. I was going not fast. I literally don't even think I was on the gas.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And I got caught on a hill and I rolled and I guess I tried to catch us with my arm up top.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just got pinched with the bars.

[C]

I've heard now that you're supposed to do this.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Keep your vehicle tuck and roll that.

[A]

Got that roll cage on it.

[C]

But now if you guys need to, like, a lesson for your children. You say, always wear your seatbelt, because if not, you'll dislocate your elbow. Because I wasn't wearing a seatbelt or a helmet or anything. But Jane was with me and was wearing a seatbelt in the helmet. And miraculously, everything is. She was unscathed.

[A]

Something miraculous. When she took the safety precautions, everything happened the way it was supposed to.

[C]

Dude, it hurts so bad.

[A]

I can't imagine.

[C]

I literally blacked out. Okay. From the pain. And I also did hit my head, and they gave me a CT scan, and it was fine, but I. I blacked out from the pain. I come to. I'm like. When I get like that, I'm, like, trying to just throw up and pass out at the same time. Yeah.

[D]

And.

[C]

But I'm. All I'm thinking about is Jane. So I try to push myself up on my arm. I go, oh, my arm's not working. That arm is not working.

[A]

That's scary.

[C]

I'm yelling, help.

[B]

How far away were you?

[D]

I was at the barn, and she was by the gate.

[B]

That's a.

[A]

He said he walked there.

[D]

What do you want?

[A]

What are you overreacting about?

[C]

He's so used to this. A neighbor came, actually.

[A]

I heard there was some bystander. Right. That's crazy.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And that person looked. No joke. I looked him up. Doesn't exist.

[D]

Probably not.

[C]

No, he really did. He did feel supernatural, didn't he?

[D]

It really did, because he walked in the. Which, I don't know.

[C]

I think he hopped the fence.

[D]

No, he walked in the gate. It opened.

[C]

Did he know the password?

[A]

No. He was an angel.

[D]

He just had his bicycle, and he put it down, and he's like. I heard screaming, so I came over here, and he's like, do you want me to call the ambulance? I'm like, no, we're going to take her to the doctor. I'm trying to figure out how to get her out of the go kart.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

He's like, why don't we just flip it off of her?

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

I'm like, that's actually way smarter. And so he helped me and then got in the car, and he's like, okay. And then he literally vanished.

[A]

He's not there anymore. That's so funny.

[C]

That car ride was agony. I felt him accelerate. I felt him decelerate.

[D]

Tell him about. So they put you on ketamine.

[C]

So we get there, and the whole time, the nurses are like, oh, how'd this happen? You know? I'm like, I'm literally trying not to pass out. Please be serious.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

And then they take me back there and the X ray guy comes in. His name is Brian and he was an angel. He was the best. He was so funny, though. I told him, brian, I have to tell you, I'm very scared of this part. I'm very scared of you. And he said, you should be. That's what he said.

[D]

Oh.

[C]

And takes me back there and takes a bunch of pictures. And then he's like, you know, I could put it back in if I just roll it a certain way. I said, don't touch me.

[A]

Brian, Brian, I'm gonna tell you this once.

[C]

And he was so good. Anyway, I go back, they immediately see, he goes, oh, yep, there it is. Right. And what happened was trigger warning. My elbow obviously went up.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So it goes out and up and it move my bicep 2 inches out of its normal spot. Oh. And everything is just spaghetti in there.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay. And they let it sit for like what I would say a long time. I don't know how long this stuff usually goes.

[D]

No, yeah, it was five minutes. It was probably close to two hours.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And so, I mean, that things just start swelling.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And it looked crazy. And it. Oh, my gosh. And it's just like constant. Like childbirth is still worse.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I think. But you get breaks at least between contractions. And this is just like constant. It just felt wrong. Right.

[A]

Yeah. And also the unexpectedness of it.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

That's scared. Yeah. Like all of it.

[C]

All the things.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And then so the doctor comes in, he's like, yeah, we're going to set this thing. Whatever. My blood pressure has been really low the whole time because I'm just trying not to pass out. Right. I'm like queasy, so they can't give me the normal sedative. And they're like, we're going to do ketamine. And I'm like, I've heard that people like ketamine. I've heard people enjoy ketamine. This should be fine.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Not. I did not realize that I would have the most life altering trip of my life.

[A]

Yeah. What happened? What did break takes through that whole trip?

[C]

So I forget everything immediately. I forget I'm a person. Okay. I think I literally feel like I'm a molecule in the universe just jumping.

[A]

Around and you're seeing all this.

[C]

I see visions. It's like the. The thing I can relate it to most closely is like Inception. It's like discs of reality.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And it felt kind of, like, maybe this scene in Interstellar where he's. Oh, the going through gravity. Discovering that gravity is the answer.

[D]

Yeah. The dimension.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Got it. I was thinking Inception for some reason.

[C]

Well, both. It's like, all this stuff. Right.

[D]

And then.

[C]

But I would get these glimpses of this little creature. Okay.

[B]

What? I didn't hear this.

[C]

Yes. And this creature had, like. Was hairy and, like, would change shapes. Like, one minute it would be, like, wood, and then it would be, like, metal. It was like spongebob.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And then it would change into, like, claymation or something. And it's guiding me through all these discs of reality.

[A]

Sure.

[C]

And what I'm realizing as this is happening is this is death. I'm dying, and I'm thinking all these things. I'm thinking, like, regret for not, like, moving into this new house, and, like, all these things that I'm missing out on.

[A]

So you're fully conscious in that way, like, you're able to still remember and.

[C]

Think of some parts of it, because part of it. I also think that I'm literally a piece of dirt in the ground. I literally think, like, I am. I'm aware that I am made of organic material. And I'm going, it's natural to die.

[A]

Mm.

[C]

This is part of life.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And it's not scary or sad. I'm not feeling. I'm, like, not very sad. I'm just like, that would have been cool if I could have done this before I died. And then this little creature is pulling me around. And then I guess as things keep going, I realize that the creature is Josh.

[A]

You're the little creature.

[B]

You have to say spongebob.

[C]

It's Josh. And what I realize at my core in this trip is that you and I are soulmates. We are literally one flesh now realize that it's crazy. You literally were, like, my little guiding. And then I'm starting to come out of it, and then I'm seeing you like this a little bit, and then I get dizzy again, and I'm like, there he is. And then I'm thinking, it's the end.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And I'm going. I'm pleading with the Lord to accept my soul into heaven because.

[D]

Terrible. Well, the thing. She stopped breathing. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. I was tripping so hard that I literally just stopped breathing.

[D]

And the lady.

[C]

And also Josh said, my eyes are wide open, and I'm doing this all the time.

[D]

Your eyes are going, oh, my God, so fast.

[C]

And then the nurse is like, breathe, Lily. And she's like, breathe. And you hear Josh Hey, Lily brain. You know? And then she takes my mouth like this, and I go, you saved my life.

[B]

And then in the waiting room, listening to Josh screaming, breathe.

[C]

And apparently the doctor's like, can somebody shut that door?

[D]

The doctor's like. He goes, hey, can somebody shut that door? Because it's just open. So this whole clinic is just hearing Lego. Don't.

[C]

Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.

[D]

Hey, hey, hey, hey.

[A]

I know someone dying over there is, like, dislocated elbow.

[C]

And by the way, I can feel them pulling on my arm. So, like, this whole trip is interrupted by me also feeling them. And I guess I. Josh, like, recorded my voice or something while it was happening. And I'm going, hey, guys.

[D]

Hey.

[C]

Let's talk about this for a minute. Everybody slow down. Slow down for a minute.

[D]

Let me say something.

[A]

Say something. Let me tell you something.

[C]

And I'm like, oh, you know, yelling at him. And I guess I was convincing them to some degree, kind of.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Because it was scary what you were doing.

[C]

Anyway. And then I come back and they're like, it's not in. And I'm like, you're kidding.

[A]

That trip for nothing.

[C]

It took them two doses of ketamine and fentanyl, and then we took an hour break, and then they tried again with another sedative and got it.

[D]

Yep.

[A]

Boom.

[D]

Got it in.

[C]

I know. I woke up and I'm like, am I gonna die? That's why I kept saying, am I gonna die? And they're like, no, it's just your arm. I was filled. When I started coming back, I was filled with so much dread because I had forgotten that I had hurt my arm.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

And then I'm, like, realizing over again that I'm injured and we gotta fix this. And I also am, like, something else is fatally happening to me.

[D]

Yeah, she did. Kept on coming out of the ketamine trip. She's like, what am I doing? Why am I here? Why am I here?

[A]

You gotta break it to her all over again.

[D]

They point it.

[C]

Ah, Yeah. I kept going, like, what's going on?

[B]

Yeah, just a nightmare.

[C]

And. But then my mouth wasn't working either, but it sounded like I was talking very clearly, but it was like I was talking through peanut butter.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Anyway.

[A]

Sound like a dog with peanut butter. Peanut butter on the top of Ruth's mouth.

[C]

Nice.

[A]

I can't even talk.

[C]

I'm on ketamine right now or nine days out, and I'm doing great.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

We're glad to have you back.

[C]

Thanks. The ketamine was the Worst part.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Now we're good.

[D]

Some would say this is their favorite part. Speaking of ketamine, you want a song?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

We're gonna make bring you send you back into your K hole trip.

[A]

Oh, gosh.

[D]

All right, let's do this. You got oil in the ground. We'll roll in and shut it down. Got some mountains looking fine. Say goodbye. Those peaks are mine.

[A]

We see gold or silver there. We'll plant a flag and claim your air. Even if it's just a breeze. We'll bottle that up and charge you fees.

[D]

You got it, we'll take it. That's the American way. We'll drop and unbide it big grilling by midday.

[A]

From sea to shiny oil field. From your trees down to your sand.

[D]

You've got it, we want it, we'll.

[A]

Take it with both hands.

[D]

You've got forests lush and green. We'll turn em into vending machines. Got a coastline nice and wide. We'll build a Walmart right outside.

[A]

We got culture, art or spice. We'll make, remake and charge you twice. Even if we leave someday you'll still have us to pay. You've got it, we'll take it. That's the American way. We'll drop uninvited. Be grilling by midday. From sea to shiny oil field. From the trees down to your sand. You've got it, we want it, we'll take it with both hands. We'll take it with both hands. W.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Good job, guys.

[D]

That song is dedicated to Venezuela.

[A]

Thank you, Venezuela.

[D]

Hope you guys are okay.

[C]

What do you guys think about that whole thing?

[D]

We'll talk about it in a.

[A]

We probably. We don't need to talk about it. Honestly.

[D]

We're actually going to skip over it completely.

[A]

It's not really a big story at all.

[D]

Actually, you know what? No, we can't. We gotta.

[A]

We're on the topic already. We could just talk about it.

[D]

We can't. We've already gone too far.

[A]

Give me one good reason.

[C]

That's my favorite flavor. Dorito.

[B]

I'm hungry.

[A]

Those are honestly, like. I make taco salad. Those are the best ones to do. Taco salad. Okay.

[C]

Thank you.

[A]

It's. He used to have like a midnight taco flavor, which was incredible.

[D]

Guys.

[A]

Like, how do you get taco in a J?

[D]

You want to do this now?

[B]

I'm sorry.

[D]

There's millions of people depending on us for this. You know what we gotta do.

[A]

You're right. You're right.

[D]

We got a question.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And I think it's pretty It's a scary one.

[C]

Scary.

[D]

Scares me. What do you think about it? Today's question.

[C]

Get on with it.

[D]

Show some respect.

[C]

L. I'm respectful.

[B]

Are you?

[D]

She always sticks when I'm talking to her.

[B]

Really? It's a problem.

[C]

That's literally not true.

[A]

It's a problem.

[C]

That's not true.

[D]

Today's question, sent in by a viewer. Hey, Lil.

[C]

Oh, my gosh.

[B]

Should.

[D]

Should women be allowed to drive?

[C]

Oh, my God. Gosh. Yes.

[B]

Really?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

This is sad.

[C]

Why?

[D]

Said, look, really.

[C]

Maybe I shouldn't. But generally, women should be allowed to drive. Yeah. As long as they have a valid license.

[D]

They should be able to drive poor people out of this country.

[A]

Is that what you're saying?

[C]

No.

[A]

That's what you just said.

[C]

Did you just make that up right now?

[A]

That's neither. The question was. The question.

[D]

Should women be allowed to drive poor people out of this country?

[C]

No.

[D]

Well, you just said yes.

[C]

I might operate a vehicle.

[A]

You want them to question.

[D]

You want them to drive them in vehicles out of this country?

[C]

Oh, my God.

[D]

Or do you want to run them over? What do you know?

[C]

I would never say that.

[D]

Well, I'm sorry.

[A]

I mean, she just wants to eliminate them. Doesn't matter. Apparently the means.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

How does she does it?

[D]

What about why. Why should women drive poor people out of this country?

[A]

What do poor people do wrong?

[D]

Yeah, what did poor people do wrong?

[A]

They're trying their best.

[D]

They're trying their hardest with inflation. This.

[C]

It's hard.

[D]

The. The housing market, the groceries are so expensive right now. And you think, well, tough for them.

[A]

I don't care how many kids you have.

[D]

Us women. Hey, women, gather up. We're gonna get all these poor people out of here.

[C]

That's not how I feel.

[A]

You know what? I'm gonna say it. I don't care that you broke your elbow.

[C]

Wow, you were waiting for that.

[A]

I was.

[D]

Will you guys hear it here first?

[A]

She thinks it's a laughing matter.

[D]

Yeah, apparently. Lil.

[C]

God, you're not the first one to say that to me, by the way. My cousin said it first.

[D]

Lily is just.

[B]

I don't.

[D]

Doesn't care. Don't care about the poor people. And she thinks women deserve to drive over them with their cars, which is insane because women kill them.

[A]

Women are capable of a lot of things, but she's pigeon holding them into this position of putting poor people out there. And so I know she's not speaking for all women. It's just purely Lily.

[B]

Yep.

[D]

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[E]

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[C]

Your hat matches your flame. It is an exact pantone match.

[A]

Does it? I didn't do that on purpose this morning.

[D]

Hey. Full story of business. Yeah.

[A]

What?

[D]

We got a new ninja shirt.

[B]

Whoa.

[C]

What's it look like?

[A]

That thing is so cool. Look at it. Lil. Right there. Oh.

[C]

Wow.

[D]

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[C]

Cool.

[B]

Really?

[D]

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[A]

They don't. They're not gangs. They're clubs.

[D]

Gang.

[A]

We're starting a club.

[E]

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[A]

Yep. Gang.

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That's where it comes from.

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[A]

They're very cozy. We have one lady in this office that basically wears it every single day.

[D]

Every day.

[A]

Every day. It's a problem.

[D]

All right, that's it.

[A]

That's it.

[D]

That's all I got.

[A]

Make sure to go to patreon.com we will see you there. We should do 15 minute episodes.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

We're already over 15 minute episodes.

[D]

I know.

[B]

And we just started our retention. Analytic would be great.

[A]

Yeah, possibly.

[D]

Possibly. Speaking of retention.

[A]

Yeah. What, you guys watch Centers?

[C]

Dude, we've watched more movies in the.

[A]

Last week than probably all 20, 25.

[C]

We were inspired. We were inspired, I guess, by the list that we made. We're like, gosh, we missed out on a bunch of movies.

[A]

So hit him. Hit me. Hit me quick. You saw Centers. What Was your rating?

[C]

8.

[A]

8.

[C]

I liked it.

[D]

I said 7.9.

[A]

Phenomenal.

[C]

It really scared me, though.

[A]

It's phenomenal.

[C]

Scary. Scary. Make you cry so bad that I pulled. I was resting my arm like this, and then I threw my hands up to cover my eyes and it hurts a bit.

[D]

Yeah, it was great. Very scary.

[C]

Very scary.

[D]

Some inappropriate parts.

[A]

Easily. Skippable.

[C]

Yeah. I wouldn't say it was as yuck as most movies are these days.

[A]

No. Yeah. There's no.

[D]

We saw Black Bag, which I did not enjoy.

[A]

You did not enjoy, which is crazy to me.

[C]

I liked it. It was. Where's the action? It's a spy movie. No. Yeah, that's what you keep saying. It's a spy thriller. It's not a spy thriller. It's a spy drama.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Not a thread.

[C]

That's a huge distinction.

[A]

I mean, it's. Okay. First of all, Spy comes in with it like that. Like, obviously, there's gonna be drama, there's gonna be thrill, there's gonna be all this stuff.

[C]

There was no thrill, really.

[A]

That got the scene when they're on the boat and the guy's like. You don't have any idea whether it's the lack of action, it's the tension that builds it up. You got to be in it. You went in with the expectation. I'm gonna go see James Bond today.

[C]

Okay. No, I had Mr. And Mrs. Smith in my head is what happened.

[A]

That's your problem. You told me it was like Mr. And Mrs. Smith. I don't think I said that at all. I don't Believe that.

[C]

You did. Okay.

[D]

She's only yelled at me like. Like that three times in my life. And it was really scary when we were fighting.

[C]

Oh, I'm just saying. We wasted an hour and a half, by the way. It was only an hour and a half. That's what Josh and I commented on. We're going.

[A]

You're gonna play that? It's too short.

[C]

We're going.

[A]

That's a good 90 minute movie.

[C]

I bet there was stuff. I bet there was supposed to be. Action. They cut it out.

[A]

No, it's written by David Soderbergh, one of the greatest writers and directors of all time. But you know what? It's your.

[B]

It's.

[D]

I thought.

[A]

I thought it was lazy and Mr. Mrs. Smithy enough. Apparently.

[C]

I do adore Michael Fassbender and Cate Blanchett is a babe.

[A]

She's incredible.

[B]

What'd you think?

[D]

Nar there.

[A]

What other movie did you watch?

[D]

Huh?

[A]

What other movies did you watch?

[D]

The Phoenician scheme. Go ahead.

[A]

I need to watch that one.

[C]

Yeah, it was excellent.

[A]

You're a big Wes Anderson guy, Josh. Like one of your top threes.

[D]

Top three for sure. Really super funny, super fun, very creative, very artsy, very nice.

[B]

Very creative to put everything on the same spot on the screen every time.

[D]

He has a way of doing it and it looks really good.

[A]

It's cool to create your own style as a director in this time and age, to, like, be able to be like everyone without even saying, like, hey, this is my style. It's just like, everyone's like, yeah, that's just Wes Anderson now.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

The color palette, everything like that. Fantastic. Mr. Fox is so.

[C]

I know.

[B]

That was just original. Just a dig to get it. Josh. I remember when I started working here, you, like, that was when you were teaching me to edit. You were like, like this. Like this. And everything was a western.

[D]

I love symmetry.

[B]

And I literally had never seen anything of his and, like, didn't understand it. I was like from the rule of thirds and on thirds mindset. And yeah, it was just Carl.

[C]

You should watch it with Paige. The Phoenician scheme of all of them. You should watch it. And she would really love it. She would get a kick out of it.

[B]

Thanks.

[D]

So.

[C]

Oh, it's like. It's cutesy and also silly. And I was laughing the whole time.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I've heard the girls walked in on a scene in the movie, like the very beginning of it.

[C]

Oh, my gosh. Josh is going violent. They can watch this. It's a Wes Anderson or whatever. I mean, not to say. And it wasn't a violent movie, but somebody explodes, literally. I was like, nice, Josh.

[B]

The first three seconds, like, oh. With his use of color, was it, like, all freaking vibrant?

[D]

It was as Wes Anderson as a body exploding as possible. It was really funny.

[A]

That's great. Any other movies?

[C]

Yeah. What else do we watch? I feel like we did.

[D]

I don't know.

[C]

Okay. We were watching a lot of New Girl.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Nice rip.

[D]

Speaking of New Girl, there's a new death at Disney.

[B]

No way.

[A]

Number six in four months. Isn't that nuts?

[C]

What was the method?

[D]

They jumped. Well, here's my thing. How do we know there's not a serial killer?

[C]

Yeah. A pusher.

[D]

This is at Disney Springs.

[B]

Does that count?

[A]

It's Walt Disney World property.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, if you're gonna. If you're gonna do a serial killer, I mean, maybe he's doing one per park, one per property.

[D]

Whoa.

[C]

Yeah, he's got one of those, like, sticker passport books where you get autographs.

[A]

Yeah, that would be good. That would be good. What would you call him?

[D]

The.

[A]

Oh, man. The Disney. The Doomsday Disney Killer. You gotta have alliteration a little bit, right?

[C]

Yeah. The dreadful Disney.

[A]

The Disney World Pirate pusher.

[B]

Ooh.

[A]

Yeah. Possibly.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Disney World. World Disney World.

[C]

Pixie pusher. Pixie dust pusher.

[A]

The pixie pusher.

[D]

The pixie pusher.

[A]

That's a good one.

[D]

That's a good one.

[C]

Dang, that stinks.

[D]

I know.

[A]

And they're not releasing. You can't find any info on these.

[D]

I know.

[A]

Which they cover up. Crazy.

[C]

Yeah. Because no one dies at Disney.

[A]

Well, this one.

[D]

Six people have since October.

[C]

Dang, that is hardcore.

[A]

Just write it in, like, make it part of the story.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

What's pop. I'm going to do about this?

[D]

I don't know. Probably make some weird.

[C]

Probably like, trying.

[D]

I'm not going to use this.

[A]

Maybe we should make a song about in honor of them.

[D]

The Disney.

[A]

Disney people. Yeah. Or bringing attention to it.

[D]

What if, like, their souls get trapped in the Haunted Mansion?

[A]

That's. And it was an empty mansion. It was honestly just like a happy, like, ride before, when they first opened it up, it was just like this, like, fun castle.

[D]

Like, how do they make those ghosts look so real?

[C]

Yeah, they are a real conspiracy. Could be that Ron Desantis is making all this happen because he hates Disney so much.

[A]

That would be a good story.

[B]

Like Florida.

[D]

Florida Secret organization government thing.

[A]

Dropping bodies at Disney. Or having Hitman go to Disney and just Take people out.

[C]

Yeah. So nobody goes to Disney anymore, or.

[A]

What if that, like that company that you go over there and you, like, help snipe people out, that you pay, like a hundred thousand dollars?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

But it's like at Disney World now. Oh, my God, that's scary.

[D]

That is scary.

[A]

Just on the. Like, the Main street, just Windows.

[C]

Bang. That's like those people that have those phobias. Have you ever heard about that woman that had a phobia that she would be, like, shot suddenly, and then she. It actually happened to her.

[D]

What?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

See, I don't think it's certain things like that. It's like maybe that's not just a irrational fear.

[C]

Maybe it's like it's a premonition.

[A]

A premonition of the Holy Spirit just saying, hey, be careful.

[C]

Be vigilant.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

On a swivel.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

That's so scary. We're going to Disney next Monday with my sister.

[D]

Don't die. Don't die.

[A]

Don't me take her.

[D]

Speaking of Disney. Venezuela.

[A]

Venezuela.

[B]

We're getting into it, huh?

[D]

Which is a little bit. Time has passed.

[A]

Yeah. There's a lot of narratives happening, so I'm wondering what's the real truth?

[C]

My favorite is the one that's coming from the White House, because I think it is the real truth.

[B]

Lily.

[C]

He said we're going for oil.

[D]

Yeah, that's true. But so what's the thing underneath that?

[C]

Yeah, probably. I mean, I know a lot. I mean, the conversation between Argentina and the Far East, I think that. I think it's multifaceted.

[D]

It's crazy. Venezuela has the largest oil reserve in the world. I think they said 13% bigger than Saudi Arabia.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

But it's crude oil. Like a very thick crude oil, so it takes a lot to refine it.

[B]

Didn't realize it was different than what apparently Saudi has.

[D]

Apparently Saudi has like a. Very easily. Just like a thin. I don't know, oil. It's just like. It's an. Yeah, it's just a better quality oil. Venezuela has more, but it's super crude, very glunky.

[A]

So break. Let's break this down. The first week of 2026, the US in the middle of the night, does a secret raid with DAA agents to.

[D]

Venezuela and Delta Force.

[A]

And Delta Force, Yeah. Okay. And so they go to Venezuela and they do what they.

[D]

They. Well, the thing is. What's his name?

[A]

Maduro.

[D]

Maduro, is it?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Okay. Maduro. He lives on a. A military base.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

And so they had all these explosions go off and that was to cut communications and power in the round the surrounding area.

[A]

Sure.

[D]

Delta Force comes in, took him like I think six minutes to drop in and get him back in the chopper.

[A]

What?

[C]

Nuts. Right. I think.

[A]

How does that happen? He's the president of Venezuela.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

There was a meme about like the scene from stranger things was 6 minutes and 20 seconds and so was the Maduro raid.

[D]

Yeah, that's funny. But yeah, they got him out and.

[C]

And his wife. Right. They both wife.

[A]

How does that happen? As the Venezuelan people in the military, how do you.

[D]

Some people fight?

[A]

Was there. Was it an inside job? Was it like, did they allow him to be taken?

[D]

Well, some people are theorizing that he knew it was coming and he was basically offered, hey, we're going to take.

[A]

You go in peace.

[D]

Yeah, we'll go. You'll have a trial in New York, but if you don't, then we're going to come in.

[A]

And so why go there in the first place? Like what started them? Pow, pow, pow.

[D]

Saying pow.

[A]

So what, like what led them to go there? Because I heard it was like strictly because he was a dictator and he was doing war crimes. But is that just the only truth or is there. Obviously there's oil.

[D]

Oil, which the. The history of Venezuela is. Chavez. Remember Chavez?

[A]

Oh yeah.

[D]

J. Yeah.

[C]

Say Viva Chavez.

[B]

Viva Chavez.

[D]

The Parks and Rec episode is so funny. Viva Chavez.

[C]

No, no, viva.

[D]

Anyways, Chavez came in, started the socialist communist movement in Venezuela, completely tanked the economy, made the oil companies that were set up by the United States and Venezuela took them under state control and then they lost like upwards of 90% of functionality with these oil plant or not.

[B]

Refineries.

[D]

Refineries. And so it was just. It tanked. And the US was like hugely benefiting off this oil and Venezuela was super. It was one of the richest countries in the world before Chavez. And then before Chavez left or died, he basically appointed Maduro. Maduro and then Maduro just drove it down even further.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And so. But it was just completely closed off. But there's a. What is said is like all this drug trafficking or drug stuff coming out of Venezuela and he's aiding it and there's a terrorist organization involved in it, blah, blah, blah, blah things just about oil.

[A]

Yeah, but I mean. Yeah, because like, where's the line? I mean, if you're. I mean, I just don't know because you think you, you have Kim Jong Un, you have Putin, you have GGPing, you have all these other people that are dictators that are Doing bad, bad things. But yet Venezuelans on our first on our hit list for this year.

[C]

It appears as though Trump is trying to unify the West. It feels like he's wanting to bring tech over here and all these major industries in case we go to war again. We have everything on the sign.

[D]

I think. I think it is a. We're playing chess right now with China.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

China and Russia.

[B]

We are, for sure. It's a staging coast to launch attacks toward us. So if we don't control that, we're at risk of whoever does.

[D]

Well, I saw someone say that China, like, it's like a third of their oil reserves are from Venezuela. So if they no longer have a third of their oil reserves, it's hard to Dang. Have an army.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

You know, and there's a lot.

[B]

That's the whole thing. It's a power play. But you can't outright say I'm trying to tank China or Russia as their own. But you can't say I'm doing this because I want to hurt China. Yeah. That's a declaration of war. And you escalate things. So they just say fentanyl. But Sean Ryan's getting ticked. I don't know if you saw that interview where he's just like. He's like, I don't have a problem that we're there. He's like. But for the reasons you're saying. He was like, we should have been in Mexico a long time ago because it's been fentanyl from China over the Mexican border. It's Mexico, Mexico. And he's like, and then you're in Venezuela.

[C]

But I really think it's benefiting. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, for sure. But I really think it's staging. But, you know, I talked about last week, though, where they're doing the thing in Alaska. He's clearly in the business of expanding. He's getting rid of the EV incentives. Like, that's all done. We're not buying that anymore. So he's trying to go back to petroleum. So he's opening up Alaska. He's seizing Venezuela. And is it good? I don't know. But, like, we live in a fallen world. These. Like, this is the way of people who live by war and power.

[C]

Yeah. Similarly, though, too, like, you're seeing a lot of talk about, like, this should be illegal. This is so racist. Whatever. And it's like, one. A lot of the people in Venezuela are celebrating this.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's what I was about.

[D]

From what.

[C]

There's a scene from what we've Seen.

[A]

There's a lot of people on propaganda.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, there's users and people that are. I mean, who knows? But, like, it seems like a lot of people are saying, like, hey, I'm Venezuelan, I'm celebrating this. I'm excited about. This is good for us.

[C]

Similarly for those who are like, the left, the right freaking out about that. Biden had a $26 million bounty out on Maduro, by the way.

[A]

Really?

[C]

Trump just did something about it.

[A]

Ooh, I didn't know that.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I didn't know if there's those.

[A]

Does he get the money?

[D]

I was wondering. I keep it. Finders keepers. Yeah. But when more stuff comes out, I'm excited to see what happens.

[A]

Yeah, it's going to be wild.

[D]

Those are crazy thing, though, you know? Yeah. That's like stuff that would happen in like, the, like the 70s or the 60s, like just going in and like a coup kind of thing.

[C]

And here's the thing.

[B]

Have you seen the video of the power going out now? Did you see it?

[A]

No.

[B]

Okay, go ahead and say what you say. I'll pull it up. I have it.

[C]

Everybody's like, you know, all these Americans are like, meh, meh, meh. But don't you feel kind of cool? We're capable, you know what I'm saying?

[A]

I mean, it's. I mean, we have the greatest military on the planet.

[C]

Thank goodness it's getting revved back up because for a minute there, it was on the decline.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, we have the greatest military in the planet. And so it's cool to see that, like, they could pull off operations like that, especially. Hopefully it is for the greater good. We will. We probably will never know because it may be good. But then there's. That's just like anything. Like, you go in, that's what we're there for.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And then they have a million agendas from a million different people. Like, hey, while we're there, while you're at the grocery store, can you grab me this? Can you grab me that? Can you grab me this? It's like I'm only here for one thing, though.

[D]

With history of America forming coups and countries typically, I would say they have not put into place an amazing leader.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

So I hope hopefully they do that with Venezuela.

[C]

Yeah. I think we were. I just learned.

[D]

Well, now they might, because America is just like, yeah, we did this. Now we're going to point. So they, like, kind of had to put someone good.

[A]

And who are we going to nominate? Who nominations open for. Here we go.

[D]

I'll do it.

[A]

Okay, fine.

[B]

I'll do it.

[A]

Just my arm.

[B]

That's.

[A]

That's a political.

[B]

That's a political stance, though. You think we should appoint rather than.

[C]

They're going to.

[A]

I mean, they're in control.

[B]

Oh, I thought you were affirming that.

[D]

No, no.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

I'm saying they're going to do it.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And who are they? I got you. I thought you were saying.

[A]

I'm saying they're going to do it, and I'm.

[D]

The Venezuelan people should be able to.

[B]

Vote for the person. Dang, Josh.

[D]

Right now I know they have. The interim is the vice president.

[B]

That if you want to go into. Is crazy.

[D]

It's not the same lady. The Nobel Peace Prize.

[B]

The.

[D]

Are you thinking about with the Juice? I don't know. We can talk more about it later, though.

[B]

Yeah, Maybe on the live.

[D]

Yeah. Which was last week.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

What. What do you mean?

[A]

Because this. We're filming this on Tuesday. We're filming the live tomorrow. Yeah.

[D]

Anyway, confusing everyone.

[C]

I just learned who's on first. That we were partially responsible for the coup in Iran, too.

[D]

Not partially. Fully responsible. Yeah.

[C]

And. And ushered in this era of Islamic dictatorship.

[D]

What?

[A]

Not our. Not our military.

[C]

It was Carter, not Reagan. Reagan was pro the president at the time.

[D]

Trump's back on the train of, I want Greenland.

[A]

I want it.

[D]

Oh, yeah. He's like, I really need it now.

[A]

Greenland's like, last week. Year was like, yeah, right. Try and take it from us. And then now they're just like, yeah.

[C]

You can have it.

[A]

We could talk.

[D]

No. He literally said the day after the Venezuela thing, he's like, I want Greenland. He said, I want it. He's like, we actually need it.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And the Danish government's like, okay, maybe we talk for a second or two.

[C]

Cigarette and a bowl of heavy cream.

[D]

Maybe a chocolate cigarette, four or five sausages.

[B]

Green means go.

[D]

Yeah, but that would be interesting.

[A]

That would be crazy. That's just like our 51st date, dude.

[D]

What? I mean, Tucker say what you will about him, he does some pretty good interviews sometimes. He was talking to this one guy, he's like. And Tucker said. He said, it seems like we're moving out of the stage of a republic and into an empire.

[C]

I saw that.

[D]

Like, how Rome.

[A]

That's where my mind was just going, yeah.

[B]

Yeah. A little spooky.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

I said to Paige, name one thing.

[A]

That'S happened bad at an empire. Exactly.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Go ahead.

[B]

I was like this. Giving Star wars just a little bit.

[D]

We sure we're not the Galactic Empire Baron.

[B]

Oh, God, I'm your daddy.

[D]

Bring me my saber. But, yeah.

[A]

Are you gonna talk about the. The Nobel Priest Prize lady?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Just mention it.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

It's just an idea.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

It's just weird.

[D]

It was a weird connection. The lady that won the Nobel peace Prize in 2025, which. I don't know her name.

[B]

Shout out.

[D]

She is a Venezuelan activist, I believe.

[A]

Imagine winning the Nobel Peace Prize and no one knowing your name.

[C]

Dang.

[D]

Yeah, dang. I just don't. I don't know anyone's name. So nothing against her.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

But what was interesting is that in her speech or whatever, she dedicated the Nobel Peace Prize to President Trump.

[C]

Right. I saw that.

[D]

Which is like. Well, it kind of seems like something was already happening there involving Venezuela. And then there was talks about potentially appointing her as president of Venezuela. And what was very interesting, what she said, which was. Just seemed completely out of left field, but you could go down a whole rabbit trail. Rabbit hole, rabbit trail.

[A]

Both.

[D]

Both.

[C]

They're interchangeable.

[D]

I think at this point is she said, basically, this is an amazing day for freedom. And something along the lines of, like, if I am appointed president or leader of Venezuela, one of the first actions I'll do is put a Venezuelan embassy in Israel.

[C]

It's like, they all say that. It's literally like a canned.

[D]

It's weird.

[C]

Like, why would that be the first thing?

[D]

I know a lot of you out there, like, get into it more you talk about it, you're on the right path. Keep going, keep going, keep going. We're not going almost there. We're not going to get weird.

[A]

It's just weird.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, we did set up an embassy for this podcast in Israel as soon as we started.

[D]

We did, yeah.

[C]

Remember when they invited us there?

[A]

Yeah. That's why we'll pay for your flights, we'll pay for your food.

[B]

That's why we hit a million subs on YouTube, dude. And then we just slowed down because we said no.

[C]

Oh, dang.

[A]

Like, all you got to do is just say some nice stuff about Israel.

[D]

I'm just saying someone controls this world. I don't know who.

[A]

God does.

[D]

God does.

[B]

And his opposition would be the people who.

[D]

Do you guys hear about this. This movement that's happening right now where people are doing federal income tax strike.

[A]

No. How do you do that? How do I join?

[D]

Everybody don't pay federal taxes.

[C]

They can't get us over a unified front.

[A]

No, but they really couldn't. That would be correct.

[D]

Everyone just said that's what everyone's saying. They said it would take least 1 million people in the United States to say, I'm not paying federal tax because 1. The Pentagon has failed the eighth audit in a row.

[C]

Exactly.

[D]

Trillions of dollars are missing. This whole DOGE thing, you know, like, exposing the government of mishandling funds. The Minnesota stuff, the stuff going on. So people are like, why are we paying taxes?

[C]

Literally, why are we paying taxes to. We're all busting our tails out here, and Minnesota is giving millions of dollars away to empty daycares.

[D]

Yeah. And I'm telling you now, everyone, I'm paying federal income taxes. I am scared.

[A]

But if everyone does it, we'll do it.

[D]

You guys do it, though.

[A]

It's like wearing cloaks. Everyone. I want to wear a cloak, but everyone's also got to wear clothes. I can't be the weirdo.

[C]

Exactly. Josh just. This stat is what made me sick. What? The lady that won the lottery, what did she end up?

[B]

She.

[D]

It was a 1.8 billion dollar Powerball ticket that she won.

[A]

1.8 billion?

[D]

1.8 billion.

[C]

How much does she take home?

[A]

Okay, 1.8 billion. What did they take, 30%?

[B]

No, no, I'm gonna. I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say she took home, like, 850 mil.

[A]

No, I'm saying, like, how much tax? Like, taxes, is it 30%?

[B]

Well, that's what we're trying to. That's what we're debating.

[D]

Yeah, I'm not.

[C]

No, you're in a higher tax bracket.

[A]

Okay. I don't know. I would say 500 million.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

You said 800.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

You were closer. It was actually, like $432 million or take away.

[C]

So that's crazy. It's that, like, 50. You pay taxes, you take. You pay taxes on your income. You pay taxes when you go to the grocery store, you pay taxes when you do this, when you do that on your property. On your property. And it's like, taxation is castration. Kirk, Cameron, get in here.

[B]

I owe Ron DeSantis an apology. I don't agree with everything, but I went off because I did the whole thing where, like, if he does the property tax thing, it actually. It seems like it's for everybody, but it actually would benefit the landowners, which is predominantly not single family. I don't know if you guys saw. He. He didn't adjust. He clarified. Probably because people like me were talking when they didn't know what they were talking about. But it's for the homestead exemption. So if you own multiple properties, the only One that gets the property tax break is the one your primary that you live in. Yeah, yeah. So it is straight up. Like, if you're. I mean, even you got like, three Airbnbs, it doesn't count on all of them. It's the house you're in. So it actually would benefit all of us.

[C]

Oh, that's great.

[B]

So I'm hoping that Florida property tax does disappear.

[C]

You just go, you have to wonder, like, what are they spending all this money on?

[B]

Yeah. And all the schools are, like, literally, like, kids are, like, disappearing. Like, this is one of the fastest growing areas. But there's, like, the school that pages that they, like, dropped six teachers last year because they're, like, losing students and.

[C]

The education is subpar. And that's. Everybody was crapping on Trump for this whole, like, defunding the Department of Education. But it's like, what's going on with our Department of Education is going happy. What's going on with our education?

[B]

Dude, I saw. I saw a. He was on Kill Tony, and I don't want to steal his bit. I forget his name. Anyways, go to. You can find the bit. But he's talking. He's saying he's like, the greatest popcorn reader. He, like, he does a bit about it, but I'm, like, thinking about the fact that that's like, a normal part. Did you guys ever do that in class? You know, popcorn reading?

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

But, like, think about how jacked up that is as something that teachers, like, we all know what it is, but the fact that it was allowed to happen. He was like, like, kids would like. It became a game to, like, find the person who can't read. That's a part of American education is just bullying people with dyslexia, with learning disabilities. And it's like. But that's the structure of putting 30 kids in a room with one teacher and expecting the teacher to occupy them.

[D]

But if you are bullied, it typically makes you funny.

[A]

That's true.

[D]

So that's true. We're just creating comedians out here.

[C]

That's true.

[A]

We're doing our best.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Happen to me, it can happen to you.

[D]

Dumb, insecure people become funny.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

Let's make America funny again.

[C]

Hey.

[D]

Yeah, but you guys should probably still pay your taxes because you might really get in trouble, dude. Unless you don't. And, like, millions of get all get together and say, we're not doing it.

[A]

I mean, we have a million subscribers.

[D]

Yeah. So let us know if you're gonna do it.

[A]

Everyone comment. You're not doing it. And we'll join with you. Yeah, but really, Maybe.

[D]

Yeah. Speaking of not paying your taxes, did you know that I have a crazy story about a lake monster? Oh, turkey.

[A]

And I have a crazy story about soccer that involves death.

[B]

Right after this.

[A]

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[D]

She told me about it.

[A]

That nuts. There's like, 20 uniforms in a box on the side of the street in New York City. Legitimate uniforms that they like. They found them and they're like, yeah, these are legit. And they belong to some police officer apparently.

[D]

But also apologize to everyone that thought we were. We got too political, because we're really not political people.

[C]

It's apolitical.

[D]

No, we're anti political. We believe in an empire by political. We believe in the kingdom of heaven.

[C]

So you don't think it was a psyop? Why would one police officer have 200 uniforms?

[A]

I have no idea. Not a clue. I don't know.

[B]

It's weird.

[A]

Yeah. Why drop those on the street, especially if they're legit? Was there some, like, a plan gone wrong or something?

[D]

It was the rapture but just the men in blue Rapture.

[C]

That'd be unique.

[A]

I mean, if you're walking around in, like, New York City and you have a uniform on, no one's going to say anything. Like, no one's. Like, you have a legitimate one on. Like, no one's going to be like, hey, are you legit? Like, I know you just do whatever.

[C]

You want do that goes to show. Like, remember to ask them to show their badge they ever come.

[A]

But that was a legit thing. So, like, I mean, like, they had. It was legitimate stuff. So who knows if they're like, the badges and stuff were still on. I mean, I don't know, man, how that works.

[B]

But if I held up a piece of gold or silver, whatever, would you be able to tell me if it was an official. But, yeah, me either.

[C]

No. Yeah, yeah.

[D]

Show me your behind.

[C]

Yeah, show me your booty.

[A]

If he does, then he wasn't a cop. Then he's lying. And if he does, it's a good day for you.

[D]

If you're a cop, then shoot me.

[C]

Oh, my gosh.

[A]

Prove it.

[C]

One of the comments was that apparently a ton of police uniforms went missing from a local laundromat like a month prior.

[A]

Weird.

[C]

So maybe someone stole all of them and then threw them on the ground to scare people. Because this all could be a big. Like a reverse psyop, where we're like.

[D]

I think a psyop is just a psyop.

[C]

Yeah. But in the way that we weren't.

[A]

Originally thinking a reverse psyop is nothing happening.

[D]

So no psyops.

[C]

It's reality.

[D]

Speaking of reality.

[A]

Question. Go to question. Going a question card with Lily where the questions are fresh on her mind.

[C]

This one is very gross.

[A]

Yum.

[C]

Very gross. Are you ready?

[A]

Ready.

[C]

Would you rather.

[A]

All right.

[C]

Have to lick a stranger's foot. But that foot has athlete's foot on it. Oh, which. Which isn't like. I mean, it's like, gross.

[B]

It's ringworm.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Do I get to pick the stranger?

[C]

It's fungal. Yeah. So you probably are going to walk away with something or lick a stranger's armpit. Who has really bad bo.

[D]

Armpit.

[C]

Yuck.

[A]

Do you get to pick the person?

[C]

Oh, no, it's a stranger. It's a stranger.

[A]

You get to pick the stranger. Do I get to walk around Disney and say, all right, that person?

[C]

Well, how do you know that they have athletes foot if everyone around me.

[A]

Has stinky armpits and also athlete's foot? And I get to just pick a.

[C]

Person now, but if you could, who would you pick? What would they look like? Describe them.

[A]

Long hair, tattoos. I don't know, but I'm saying, like, I don't like. I mean there's, there's obviously like, I don't want. I'm sorry, but like a 300 pound man who's been walking out all day.

[B]

Taps you on the shoulder.

[A]

I'd rather just maybe like some like skinny nerd, you know, kid. And he's like, hey, here's an armpit for a licking. I'd probably do the funny.

[C]

Nerds stink worse though too, dude.

[A]

Yeah, just less terrible. That's a good question. It's a good question. I would do foot.

[B]

I would do foot death. Could I just die?

[D]

I do the armpit.

[C]

I feel like the armpit is wise.

[A]

Because you get liquid with the armpit.

[D]

Yeah, liquid on the feet.

[A]

No, no, athlete foot. I mean, you're thinking it's going to be just a quick dry lick. Gross.

[C]

It's dry, but you're probably walking away with fungus on your tongue.

[B]

What about the. What's the displacement of the tongue and the length of the lick?

[C]

You gotta go.

[D]

All right, Andrew, hit us with that beat.

[A]

You're beating me.

[D]

Andrew has a real.

[A]

And you're changing the subject.

[D]

Cause I didn't like it.

[A]

Too bad.

[D]

I'm gonna puke.

[A]

Please do show us that real.

[B]

Speaking of nothing, I got chased by one of these one time. This is crazy. You like aquariums? And the underwater sort under the sea. Volume is safe on both of these. But let's watch the water one first. When it decides to appear.

[D]

Appear under the sea.

[A]

Everything's better down where it's weather under the sea.

[B]

I started sending these when I started playing the beat and they're like five seconds long. What if it gets flagged? Should I just start out?

[A]

Start over? Turn around.

[D]

Well, that's sending. Can I actually tell you guys a story about the sea?

[A]

Please.

[D]

Very short, but it's very cool. I just saw it. St. Augustine. Yeah, St. Augustine the saint.

[C]

Saint the man.

[D]

St. Augustine. He was walking along the ocean one day and he was contemplating. He was really trying to figure out the Trinity. He said, how can God be three persons in one? And while he's walking, there's a little boy and he had a hole. And he was going back and forth from the ocean to this hole, carrying a shell of water and dumping the shell of water into the hole. And St. Augustine said, what are you doing? And he says, I'm going to put the whole sea into this hole. He says, that's impossible. And then the little boy looked at him and he said, and it is even more impossible for you to comprehend the mystery of the Trinity with your human mind.

[C]

Wow.

[D]

And the boy disappeared.

[A]

That's crazy. Could you imagine?

[B]

You'd be like, dang.

[C]

That's encouraging, though.

[D]

Isn't that crazy?

[C]

I remember last year, my goal was to, like, to understand how to articulate the Trinity. And it's like, you never will.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, you can. I think, in a way, you just got there. Takes a lot of, like, very careful verbiage. But that's the thing. You don't like that.

[B]

You.

[A]

You can explain it, but it doesn't mean it's understandable.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

That's the difference. People think of you like, oh, just explain it to a point where people can understand. It's like, no. Like, the mystery of the gospel. That's the whole flipping point.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

It's like, I don't want a God that I can understand. That'd be insane. That would. Imagine the God I could understand, like, fully, fully understand. They would just be, like, the saddest creature in the world. Be the worst world of all time.

[D]

Where's your real.

[B]

Did it not show up? It's showing that it's here, there, everywhere.

[A]

You can airdrop it.

[B]

All right, let's switch up.

[C]

I have. I have Instagram.

[A]

Why?

[C]

If that's helpful. I deleted it, but I just have to search it.

[B]

I literally. It's so weird. It's showing that.

[D]

You gotta, like, update your phone or something.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

I guess you got that new phone.

[B]

I know. Dang.

[A]

I feel like my phone's acting slower, and it's simply because we have that new one out.

[B]

Did it. Did those show up?

[D]

Nothing showed up.

[B]

Golly.

[A]

Whoa. What was that?

[D]

Did you guys hear that?

[B]

Lily, is your airdrop scared?

[D]

That wasn't me.

[C]

No, I don't know how to do that.

[A]

Really?

[D]

Oh, my goodness.

[A]

Guys, this is crazy.

[C]

Where do I go to do that?

[B]

Swipe down from here, explaining airdrop to Lily.

[C]

Where?

[B]

Josh, accept the airdrop.

[A]

Accept it.

[D]

I got it.

[C]

Swipe down from where? Okay, and then what button?

[B]

And then hit that icon.

[D]

There's an icon.

[C]

That icon. But I did get your text.

[A]

Here we go.

[C]

Do you want to see what it is?

[D]

Oh, no. It came through.

[C]

This is what mine looks like.

[D]

All right, the blue one first. Yeah. All right, ready?

[B]

Nope. Just kidding.

[D]

Three, two, one, go.

[C]

This doesn't look like it'll be gross.

[B]

It's not.

[A]

Oh, my Gosh.

[B]

That is a Mori heel.

[D]

She screamed a good three seconds before.

[B]

I even saw it.

[A]

It probably would have made me jump, too, but I was prepped. Is your arm okay?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

That has to be AI.

[B]

You can go frame by frame. And it's not.

[C]

Dang.

[A]

I mean, that makes total sense.

[C]

Something was gonna come out. It had been watching him for a while, I bet. Dang. Oh, he's big, dude.

[D]

Oh, yeah. Yikes.

[C]

Dang.

[A]

Get out of my home.

[C]

Is that an airplane that crashed?

[B]

Looks like just a little reef.

[C]

Give me headaches screaming like that.

[A]

All right, good one.

[B]

This next one's so good.

[A]

I love the audio. Only people that are just, like, listening to this, they can't see what they're we're seeing, and so they just hear a scream.

[B]

All right.

[D]

Three, two, one, go.

[B]

It says, the buddy who bought illegal fireworks. This is you and your brother. I imagine as kids this literally looks.

[C]

Like the thing from Mulan.

[A]

Oh, my goodness.

[D]

Had that backwards. That's funny, dude.

[B]

Shout out to my neighbors who've kept us up for, like, the last five days, bro.

[C]

What's up? There should be a rule.

[B]

There is.

[D]

It's the noise ordinance about to start.

[B]

Citizen arresting people. I told Paige I'm, like, getting really close to being a petty old man with, like, bottle rockets and just finds the house is doing it. You get one night at a reasonable, like, period.

[C]

That's what I'm saying.

[B]

But I'm up. I typically wake up early, and I'm this close to being the guy who's just, like, literally in the street lighting off firecrackers at 6am in front of their house.

[C]

I'm just like, it's New Year's Eve. Only in anticipation for the new year.

[D]

Even still, after 12 o'. Clock. Let's just. Let's chill out.

[B]

Yeah, dude, it was like, 2:00am and, like, the big ones, I mean, we're close enough. That is probably the same exact firework.

[D]

Oh, my gosh. It was awful.

[A]

We have, like, nobody in our area, so I'm fine with it. I think they should keep it up.

[C]

Dang.

[A]

Yeah, I don't hear any.

[C]

That's pretty sad. Nobody likes to light fireworks.

[B]

Might just trade houses with you. Where's the holidays?

[A]

This town so much. There's no one else around us.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Which is nice.

[D]

You guys want to talk about a dark story?

[A]

How dark?

[D]

Like, pretty dark.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

It was. I saw this video yesterday. I'm like, oh, my gosh. I never knew about this stuff. It's really terrible.

[B]

This is Terrible.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

Terrible story.

[A]

I'm fine with that. The reality, baby.

[D]

The rwandan genocide of 1994.

[C]

Jesus, Pete.

[A]

Dude, what year?

[D]

1994.

[C]

That's recent.

[D]

I know.

[C]

Who are they committing genocide against?

[D]

Listen, so this video. YouTube I've talked about multiple times. Penguin History.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Does phenomenal videos. So this event in Rwanda was against. It was these two tribes or these two people, ethnic groups in Rwanda called the Tutsi and the Hutu. And the Hutu decided that they needed to eradicate the tootsies from Rwanda.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And.

[A]

Sounds like a pretty cute war.

[D]

Yeah. It was not.

[A]

I mean, on paper, it sounds terrible.

[D]

This was a terrible event.

[C]

Oh, no.

[D]

But this. So it was. This started happening six months after the Black Hawk down event in Somalia. Okay, so this plays into the whole story, the whole event. So the. The Hutu, the Hutus were basically persecuting the. The Tutsis in Rwanda. And what happened was, one month in, they're just blasting this propaganda all over the radio saying that the. The Tutsi people, they're cockroaches, and we need to exterminate the cockroaches because they want to enslave us. And, like, all this stuff. And so just all these hootsie people just started grabbing machetes, grabbing guns, and within the first month, they killed 300,000 Tootsie people.

[B]

Whoa.

[D]

It gets worse.

[A]

Just because they were told to.

[D]

Yeah, well, because this whole propaganda machine of, like, these are the bad people feared crazy things. And so this was happening, and the UN Met with the United States and stuff, and they actually, as a result of this happening, they pulled out of Rwanda. The UN pulled out 90% of their peacekeepers in Rwanda. Pulled them out.

[A]

Just said they didn't want to pardon it.

[D]

Yes. And Bill Clinton and them, they. They refused to call it a genocide because it was this. The act of the 1948 Genocide Convention, basically saying that if something is a genocide, the UN has to get involved. And so. But the US Bill Clinton, they never called it genocide. They said genesis or genocide, what they call acts of genocide.

[B]

Got it.

[D]

So legally, they weren't declaring it genocide. They're just saying it's acts of genocide.

[B]

I didn't cheat on you. Just an act of adultery.

[D]

Right.

[C]

A.

[A]

It's a. The shape of genocide.

[D]

Exactly. So we're at this point when they decide to do this, pull out their 90%. We're six weeks into this war, this genocide, 500,000 people dead in Rwanda. And during this thing, instead of the US Getting involved, they decided to come up with a Presidential Decision Directive 25, which is a policy that makes it even harder for the US to support UN missions that don't serve vital national interests. So while this is happening, Bill Clinton comes out with the presidential decision directive 25, saying that if it doesn't benefit the US at all, we're not going to get involved. Yeah, it was a direct correlation with what was happening in Rwanda, completely ignoring what was happening. But then the UN's like, well, we got to do something. So they deployed 5,500 peacekeeping troops to Rwanda, but they didn't arm them. They gave them zero transportation. But what these. These peacekeepers did, like, a couple of them were just absolutely amazing. Hiding the Tutsi people. Like, they saved tens of thousands of lives. Just these small groups of men that had no weapons.

[C]

Wow. It's amazing. Were they believers or, I don't know, just peaceful people, just peacekeepers.

[D]

And they were just their job.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

They probably felt like just like fish in a barrel at that point. Like, we're just like, we're gonna get caught protecting these people. We're gonna die. We have no way to protect ourselves.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

That's so scary. Yeah.

[D]

But this is the crazy part. The UN suggested to the United States, like, hey, why don't we, you guys, send in planes and stuff to jam their radio signals? Because this is how it's being fed is like, these guys are just listening to this propaganda on this radio and communication. And this is the Pentagon's response to that request. They said. Someone suggested. Said the Pentagon, they said that it would go against the constitutional principle of the freedom of speech.

[A]

That's.

[D]

So the Pentagon refused to do it because it's like, well, that would just go against their freedom of speech.

[A]

Yeah, that's.

[D]

So. They're so blatantly not wanting to get in.

[A]

I mean, that's such a tough thing to just argue because you're obviously, that's their warfare. Like, that's the. Like, the warfare they're choosing to go with is just propaganda. Yeah, that sucks.

[B]

It was.

[D]

Yeah, it was terrible. But ultimately, the Tootsie tribe, they were eventually able to create a safe haven and form a peace deal with the Hutsie or the Hutus. I mean, but the conflict, it lasted a total of 100 days, and over 800,000 people were killed.

[C]

Oh, my gosh. Wow.

[A]

800,000.

[D]

800,000. And it wasn't declared a genocide until after it stopped.

[A]

How did it end?

[C]

Just that peace deal and stuff?

[D]

Yeah, just the peace deal. But they were. They were able to negotiate who. They put a Hutu as the president of Rwanda.

[A]

And so they're like, oh, we won now.

[D]

But it was just a formality.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Because the real person in charge was the vice president, who was a tootsie, and he was actually aligned with the United States of America. And what my whole thing was like, well, how did. Why didn't America get involved? And did they actually benefit from this potential change in power with these people being wiped out? I don't know. And basically what it did was Rwanda for the longest time was under French control, and after this genocide, it was now under US Control because the vice president was basically like, buddy buddies with America and Western interests. But what it did was it opened up trade routes from the Congo. So in the Congo, it was like newly discovered stuff of, like, cobalt gold and tiny. So now the US had full access to the Congo resources through Rwanda.

[A]

And so they were just waiting on that change of power.

[D]

They won't say that.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

But that's happened.

[A]

Yeah. You can't. You can't say that.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

They just needed to benefit from it.

[D]

Yeah. Lee, man, but it's like, you don't. That's crazy that you don't. I. The only time I ever heard about the tragedy in Rwanda was from the movie Hotel. Was it Hotel Rwanda?

[A]

That's the. What it's about.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I did not know that.

[D]

Yeah. And what's really messed up was super sad at the beginning of this video. They showed that these umps keepers that were armed at the very beginning of the conflict went into this. This village, and all these Tutsi people were like, we're surrounded. They're about to kill us. And the UN Peacekeepers, their only job was to get Westerners out. And so they. They got the Westerners drove out of there, and then all of a sudden you heard, yeah. Oh, my gosh, that's so terrible.

[A]

So tough.

[D]

But it just made me so frustrated of just like, we could have gotten involved.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[D]

The world could have gotten involved.

[A]

Yeah. Saved thousands and thousands of people.

[D]

Yeah. But it didn't. It didn't go with our national interests. And, like, it was America that had the. The veto power or whatever within the UN to basically say, no, let's not get involved.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Like, no, we just want to stay out of it. And Bill Clinton's thing, I would say, is a little selfish because he was getting bad, bad press because of the black. Black Hawk down event. So he was trying to save face and be like, well, we're not going to. I'm not going to send people over there.

[A]

Yeah. You know, because a lot of people are going to understand why you're getting involved or all the way over there.

[D]

I know it was a different time, and, like, it was like. I know people were super, super mad about the Somalian thing, so I could understand. It's just like, yeah, you don't want more US Soldiers dying in Africa if it doesn't interest us at all.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

But at the same time, it's like 800,000 people.

[A]

Yeah. Let's do what's right.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

It's so hard.

[D]

I don't know.

[B]

It's so hard. You got to talk about where the money comes from. You got to talk about, you know. Yeah. All over the globe. Fallen world. There's really a lot of these situations just don't have a good outcome.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

I'd love to know the breakdown of, like, military power, like, in the un, like, we're a global power, but, like, how much when they say, like, we should do something. I feel like a lot of times it's like being the person who's actually going to do it in a meeting. Like, when people are like, hey, we should do this, and you're like, everyone's.

[D]

Like, looking at the U.S. yeah.

[B]

It's like, you guys should. I agree. We'll send, like, five people. You guys send the rest. It's like, well, no, we need you to do it.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And I don't know. I don't know anything around it. It just. I know that these global issues suck.

[D]

Yes, they do. Anyways, that was a terrible story.

[C]

That's terrible.

[B]

But you're another. Go ahead.

[A]

I guess Bill couldn't. Can make mistakes.

[C]

In fact, he made a lot of them. He made a ton of mistakes.

[A]

You talk name, name, name five.

[C]

I can name two.

[A]

Well, it's not five.

[B]

Sounds pretty good to me.

[A]

Not my bill.

[B]

49 surfers died in fishing nets off of Brazil's coast.

[C]

What?

[B]

Apparently over. It's over the course of so many years, but apparently illegal fishing and fishermen who are legal illegally disposing of nets off the coast. Apparently several times during big swells and crazy tides, surf will be in the lineup and then, like, catch a wave, get all wrapped up, and literally trying to get back to the surface is just caught in a net and drowns.

[A]

Nightmare.

[B]

I just, like, that's the entire story. Stab magazine's a dope surfing resource, and it's like, you know, pay to play. And I didn't pay and read the article. That's like, their headline I did a little digging, but it's absolutely. I just like thinking of dying that way.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Is miserable because you're not like hitting the head and drowned. You're like trying to figure out how to get out of the net.

[D]

Imagine how the fish feel.

[C]

I was gonna say this. They literally died. They know exactly how sea turtle feels.

[D]

It's terrible. Not the same.

[B]

That's it.

[C]

I know it's not the same. It's just sad.

[D]

I know. I was, I said the same joke, though. I'm condemning myself.

[C]

I see.

[D]

Maybe they're trying to catch mermaids, though.

[A]

That's true. And they just were unsuccessful.

[B]

Dude.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

What did it say? Only. Only 47. Is that what, 49 surfers. But if you catch one, is it worth it?

[C]

One mermaid?

[D]

I would say so.

[A]

It's a good ratio. Yeah.

[D]

No, Ada said the other day, because there was like a, a thumbnail or something for one of the pirate movies and it had the mermaid dad. I didn't know there's a pirate movie with mermaids in it.

[B]

I said, yeah, but those are bad mermaids.

[D]

It's like, what do you mean?

[B]

I said, you don't want to know.

[D]

They're bad mermaids.

[A]

Trust me. Ada, grab her cheeks. Just like in. You don't want to find out. Speaking of Brazil, I got a Brazil story.

[C]

Brazil.

[A]

Brazil.

[D]

Brazil.

[A]

This is a real story about a referee that made a call so controversial, he didn't leave the stadium alive.

[C]

Dang, Here we go.

[A]

All right, so in 2013, there was this amateur soccer match that was happening. And so this referee who was a volunteer at the time, he's a 20 year old kid, Octavia da Silva is his name, and he's, he's ref in the game. And it's a full packed crowd and they're having a great time. But the thing is, the people who were playing the two teams were, had a lot of beef. There was a lot of heated exchanges, there was a lot of bad calls, apparently. And it just kept getting more and more and more and more intense. And so in the second half, they're, you know, it's still pretty heated. One guy makes a unsportsmanlike move. The referee, Octavia, pulls out a red card, ejects him from the game. The guy leaves, then comes back to the referee and starts getting in his face. The team members are holding him back. The crowd's going crazy. The player takes a swing and punches the ref in the face. And at that point, everyone's freaking out. But then the referee reaches into his pocket and pulls out a knife. 20 year old kid pulls out a knife and starts stabbing the player repeatedly.

[D]

Oh, my gosh.

[A]

They break up the fight. They break up the fight. They take the player and they bring him off field and they start rushing into the hospital. He dies on the way to the hospital. It's in 2013. So people start finding out that he died. His friends, his family, the fans, everyone in the crowd starts getting notified that this dude just died in the hospital on the way to the hospital. And so the fans start losing their minds. They're still playing the game, the referee's still on the field. They start throwing food at this referee. They stop the game, they start throwing food. Then people have access to rocks somehow and start picking up rocks, jumping onto the pitch.

[D]

Nice.

[A]

They jump onto the pitch, they grab rocks and they start stoning this guy. The guy falls down and a group of fans. And this gets gruesome.

[D]

This is like trigger warning, trigger warning. We should probably put one at the beginning of this episode.

[A]

Probably.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

So the fans surround this referee and start beating him to death. They grab his limbs and without tools or weapons, they quartered this guy, like.

[C]

Back in the day with like a horse and stuff.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

They literally rip his limbs off his body. And it only gets worse from here. They take off his head. Oh, they remove his head on the pitch and they put it on a stake in the middle of the goal.

[C]

Oh, my gosh.

[A]

Absolutely gruesome. It's terrible. And there's just, you know, like, there's a ton of information about it online, but a lot of people, when they heard this story, they're like, there's no way this is real. This isn't real. It's a one Google search. It's very, very clear. This happened in 2013. Absolutely awful. And believe it or not, only one person was arrested. What is that not nuts? Only one person. Because there was just too many people apparently. I don't really know, but there was no. There apparently is some footage, but there wasn't a televised match or anything like that. So you can only get what people had in the crowd and stuff like that. But it's just absolutely gruesome. Super horrifying.

[C]

I have so many questions. Yeah, like, why did they keep playing soccer after the ref stabbed someone to death?

[A]

I don't think they, like, obviously didn't know he died. They just thought it would, like. I mean, there was a. He was the guy punched. I mean, it's Brazil. I have no idea how things fly over there, but it's just nuts. Absolutely crazy.

[C]

Like the referee is a murderer. Yeah, keep playing.

[B]

Yeah, well, they didn't know he was a murderer while they kept playing. They just know he defended himself after getting struck.

[A]

Also playing soccer, a referee with a knife in your pocket.

[D]

That might describe what happens in Brazil though, in these soccer games, if a referee has a knife in his pocket.

[A]

Yeah, that's true.

[D]

So that's probably why they kept on playing because they're like, man, this happens.

[A]

I mean, that's a Tuesday.

[B]

I don't want to be disparaging, but yeah, like you hear stories of just like the gang affiliated teams, gangs owning teams and stuff like that.

[A]

And apparently there was rumors that this game wasn't like, it was like kind of an informal game. It wasn't like, but it was a legit game. But it wasn't like maybe it wasn't counted towards anything score, like further records and stuff. But it's crazy friendly. I mean, that's just nuts. A 20 year old kid.

[D]

That's crazy. That also is scary of like the human, like what humans can do.

[C]

Group think.

[D]

Yeah, Group think.

[C]

Yeah, they all like synced up hive.

[D]

Like 1 second we're watching a soccer game, the next second we're putting someone's head on a stake. Yeah, that's crazy.

[C]

It's when dudes get. They're like this and they get all rowdy.

[D]

You didn't say the, the most important part. It was all women that did it.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

All women.

[B]

So.

[D]

Huh.

[A]

Take that for. How's that for a reverse psyop?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Terrible.

[A]

It's so scary. I read that story. I was like, there's no way that's real. And all comes like, no way. This is real. And it's like, yeah, it's 100% real. It happened.

[B]

Soccer fans are nuts. I was, I was watching a Barcelona game over the weekend and our new keeper played for the team we were playing and he was like one of their academy kids, like 15 years old. And then literally left to play for Barcelona, which it's like, yeah, it's Barcelona. Like that's a huge step up in your career. But apparently that ticked everyone off. So they literally the whole game, like whistling, chanting rat. But apparently they might be banning like a ton of the fans or like putting the stadium on a ban because I guess they were throwing dead rats.

[C]

At the keeper during the game.

[B]

I mean, this is La Liga, like the biggest Spanish league just starting a.

[A]

New plague just because your team isn't winning.

[B]

But that's crazy. It's also kind of dope that you can get these teams that, like, aren't built on money, that they're like, actually a community of people who have been fans since it was a Sunday league team and then climbed up there.

[A]

Yeah. There's something cool about the ride or die kind of thing. But I mean, there's one point. I mean, I've seen, like, vloggers, like, they'll travel to, like, England. They're like American pranksters on, like, on the side of the road. It's easy, fun stuff. But then they go to England and they wear, like, the wrong jersey. Yeah. I'm like, you think the Raiders and the Eagles are violent? I'm like, they're just standing outside the stadium and they're literally getting threatened and bushed. I'm like, these guys are nuts.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

You ever seen Green Street Hooligans?

[D]

Green street hooligans. About 10,000. You love it.

[B]

I need to watch.

[D]

You haven't watched either, right?

[A]

No, not yet.

[C]

But Wood in it. He's the best.

[D]

It is the best.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

It's really defines the. The football fans of the UK culture.

[B]

Imagine, though, if like the University of Alabama or like lsu, like, you think about, like, some of the worst fans that they have. But imagine if those people, like, would make it to the super bowl because the team just remained the team, like the LSU Tigers. It'd be it. It would. That's why we have the NFL. It's a reset to keep us from going crazy.

[D]

I think so.

[A]

I can't wait to see the enhanced games this year.

[D]

Oh, I know you know about those.

[B]

Oh, it's.

[D]

Oh, it's the Olympics on steroids. Literally.

[A]

They're allowed to have. Take any. Any drug or any enhancement drug. Oh, what at all. And they literally like their offers, like, what is it? A hundred thousand dollars or a million dollars to everyone who breaks Olympic world record.

[C]

Oh, my gosh.

[B]

So you.

[A]

No joke, you have.

[C]

Why are they allowing that?

[A]

Why not?

[C]

They're basically incentivizing people to destroy their bodies.

[A]

I mean, so is McDonald's, right? I mean, we. Everything that the America promotes is, you.

[D]

Know, the hot dog eating contest.

[C]

I understand that's true. I understand that equivalent is fun. Like, it sounds fun. Like, I actually. Probably.

[D]

Because people have always, like, wondered.

[A]

Yeah, like, what could the human body do? Yeah, I'm not. I'm not advocating it.

[D]

Of course not.

[A]

But I will tune in. Well, watch it.

[C]

Who's putting this on espn?

[A]

No, there's like, I don't know who the guy Is that's in charge of it. I'll look it up.

[D]

But it's espn the Ocho.

[A]

You know, that's a real thing. Every once in a while they do, like, weird sports.

[D]

That's fun.

[A]

Yeah. They actually made a legit thing after the dodgeball movie.

[D]

Speaking of dodgeball, you guys want to hear about Spooky Lake?

[C]

Yeah, I love spooky lakes.

[D]

I just wanted to. I love doing stories and looking at stories of lakes and bodies of water because they're always so scary to me.

[A]

Very mystical.

[D]

Water scary.

[C]

Water is very scary.

[A]

I'm gonna say it. Water's scary, guys.

[D]

What's hidden in it?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

We'll never know.

[D]

Well, this story is about Lake Vaughan or Van. I don't know how you say it's in Turkey.

[A]

Lake Vaughan.

[D]

Vaughn.

[C]

Turkey is beautiful, by the way. I've seen pictures.

[D]

Turkey is beautiful. Also has so much mystery behind it. That's where the Gobekli Tepe is like.

[A]

Do you baste it? Do you deep fry it?

[C]

Smoke it?

[D]

Yeah. Lake Vaughan is located in eastern Turkey and it is the largest bear with me here. The largest Indo reic lakes in the world, which means closed basin.

[C]

What's a closed basin?

[D]

Google it.

[C]

No bottom.

[D]

No. It's just like.

[A]

Josh is a no basin.

[D]

Hey.

[C]

Closed basin.

[D]

It's very cute. Okay? It's cute. It's a cute basin. But this. This lake is very. It has a very rich saline and alkaline. Alkaline. Alkaline.

[A]

Alkaline.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

The water's just very.

[C]

I see.

[A]

Dense with it.

[D]

Dense with it.

[C]

It doesn't go to any rivers or oceans or anything. It's its own water.

[D]

Right.

[C]

That's a closed.

[D]

Largest in the world.

[C]

Wow.

[D]

And it is nicknamed the Inland Sea. Inland Sea. Because of its size and wave action. This lake is so big. It has waves kind of like the Great Lakes, but.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

But in 2017, these divers discovered a 3,000 year old stone fortress in this lake.

[B]

Wow.

[D]

And they believe it's from this civilization called the Ura. Golly. I didn't.

[B]

I didn't look up how to pronounce this one.

[D]

Dang it. Help me with this one. U R A R T U Ratu. Eratu Ratu.

[B]

That's good.

[D]

So the people think. The scientists think that it's involved with this Uratu civilization, which this dates back to the 9th and 6th century BC.

[B]

Wow.

[D]

But what this Ratu civilization was good at was building stuff.

[C]

Cool.

[D]

Specifically megalithic structures. So they like these stones, they're cut perfectly flat on all sides, uniform height and length. Fit together tightly, often without mortar, and create smooth, straight. I'm just reading what ChatGPT said. I'm gonna move on from that. But, yeah, these. These people, they were highly advanced in the Iron Age kingdom. They often went and battled the Assyrians. Like, they were just this, like, apparently really brilliant people. But they have no. Like, they don't know what this fortress was used for. They don't know how it got underwater. Like, it's this huge mystery.

[A]

So it's super deep. Like, they were in a valley at one point, basically. Is that what it's like?

[D]

It's on, like, a mountaintop. And this. There's this giant lake. But this. This fortress, they said it's like 60 meters or something underwater.

[A]

Okay. So not too much, not too deep.

[D]

But, like, no one's ever really dived in there because it's, like, super uninhabitable.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

But just there's a weird mystery around the stonewall that they just discovered in 2017. So who knows what else is down there. Yeah, but what else might be down there?

[C]

The monster.

[D]

A sea monster?

[C]

Yeah, I thought so.

[D]

Called the Lake Vaughan monster. And people have described it even back to the ancient days. Like, recent sightings up in, like, the 1990s. Like, I think they said that someone got video footage of it. I couldn't find it. But they suspect this creature is 30 to 50ft long, and it is serpentine or eel. Like.

[C]

Yeah, nice.

[D]

Dark. Sometimes described as humped.

[C]

Sorry, say that again.

[D]

Humped.

[C]

Okay. I didn't know what he said the first time.

[D]

What did you think I said? It doesn't matter.

[C]

It doesn't matter.

[D]

But what's crazy around this lake, there's this Armenian mythological mythology.

[A]

Help me.

[D]

Help. Son of a gun. Let's start over. Hey, do you want a song?

[B]

The mythology around the lake.

[D]

Yeah, there's this Armenian mythology around this lake, but just in this region in general. And they would call them vishaps, and they're basically these serpent or dragon like beings that had, like, this very spiritual aspect to them. But there's these stones erected all over Turkey, especially around lakes and mountaintops that resemble this Lake Von Beast. And. But these. These stones, they go Back to like 2. 2 to 3000 BC so super ancient, super old. That's all I got. I totally lost my train of thought.

[C]

Dang.

[D]

But, yeah, there's this. This. There's this. This lake is freaky. It's creepy.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

They're finding ancient ruins. There's this sea monster in this lake, supposedly. But all these fishermen have seen it, all these people have seen it, and they're like, oh, it's just. It's just a wave. Because the waves look very serpent.

[A]

Like very humpy, this thing. It's a very humpy lake.

[D]

Yeah. But there's a lot of fishermen that say, like, this thing pops up right by their boat. And it's longer than the boat.

[C]

Wow.

[D]

Creepy lake.

[C]

I have thought about.

[A]

Look it up.

[C]

If it's me diving, I, like, put on my diving suit and I have my thing on, and they're about to drop me in there. And I'm plopping and I'm looking down. Oh, my gosh. The willies.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Scary.

[D]

Very scary.

[C]

You're built different if you're an exploratory diver. I know.

[A]

What is that? It's like a castle on top of that. But it's in Lake Vaughan.

[C]

That is insanely interesting.

[D]

Yeah, well, they.

[A]

That's a really interesting area.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Looks super weird.

[D]

It's super ancient. And it's like.

[A]

I don't know. I get weird feelings even just looking at pictures of it.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Do a little more deep dive on that thing.

[D]

Yeah. No pun intended.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

Hey.

[D]

Really shallow, I don't think. I don't know how deep the lake actually is.

[C]

And it's on top of a mountain.

[B]

60. 60 meters would be about the width of my yard.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Formed by volcano.

[D]

Well, they say, like, people just don't dive in it because it's super, like, inaccessible.

[C]

Like you have to hike a mountain.

[D]

Well, yeah. Well, Turkey especially, they're very strict on. On archeological digs and stuff like that. But even this lake, diving in it with all the. Alkaline. Alkaline. Dang it.

[B]

What is it?

[C]

Alkaline.

[D]

Alkaline.

[C]

I think they're interchangeable. I think people say both.

[D]

It's like glacier and glacier.

[C]

No, there's only one right way.

[A]

Or mature and mature.

[D]

Mature.

[B]

Dude, I knew a redneck and that's the only word he said. Fancy. And it always got in my head.

[D]

What? Mature.

[B]

Mature.

[A]

I remember that. That's like a preacher from Kansas.

[B]

Mature, is it? Is that why? Well, that checks.

[D]

It's very mature.

[A]

They. The. The lake is also home to the well preserved 10th century Armenian church of the Holy Cross, famous for its intricate carvings. That looks cool, too.

[C]

In the water.

[A]

Not in the water. Right. Like, it's right on the water, though. It's like. It's just like, super.

[C]

Is it abandoned or. They still practice, I think.

[A]

I don't think. I Don't know if they practice there or not, but it looks like, well.

[D]

Turkey seems like the place to go.

[C]

Dude, I want to go to Turkey. What is it like politically right now? Is it pretty turbulent or is it good?

[A]

Fine.

[D]

I don't. I really don't know.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

I think it's fine.

[C]

I want to do a whole East. I think we have to wait till the girls are in high school, but a whole Eastern European, like, like two months Arabian nights.

[D]

Anyways, those are the stories I have.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

It's pretty good, dude.

[B]

Very, very cool.

[A]

I like spooky like stories, dude.

[C]

Me too, dude.

[A]

I just, I'm. I'm missing like vibes from like the, like the, the moon eyed children and also the. What is the green children that came out of like in Italy.

[C]

Yeah, I know.

[A]

That one was good.

[D]

I. I feel like in. Maybe people can speak into this in the comments. I feel like I've been on a little bit of a dry spell with finding like really, really good stories.

[C]

I don't think so.

[A]

Well, that's the thing. We found so much that are on the surface and so we just got to start diving down deep, like into like, like picking out a specific country. Because every country has their own lore and crazy stories. So it's almost like we have to like theme it out that way. Just do deep dives into that area.

[C]

We can also rely on the people that listen to the show because a lot of them.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

So do you guys have a way you want things submitted to you?

[A]

Yeah, that would be a thing because we get a ton of people just send us stuff and it's hard to like. It's different avenues and content. So I wonder if we could have a form on our ninjasandbutterflies.com submit a story.

[D]

That's a good idea.

[A]

Name of this, like your name. Like how long you been listening and then what year this happened, Bulk of the story and like links.

[D]

We'll figure it out.

[B]

You should have. Definitely have parameters though because we're not looking for, for like a thousand dms of the same unresearched reel. Needed to be like, why is this a compelling story?

[C]

Yeah, maybe like it needs to be at least like a third hand account of something that actually happened to you or a family member. And we're accepting ghost stories always.

[A]

We should do like some like submitted ghost stories for the Halloween episode this year.

[C]

Yeah. But not too scary because I'm sensitive. I will tell you, my favorite character in Sinners was Annie, the wife. The smart witch wife.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

And but when she used the word paint to describe what was. Chills. From the top of my head to my toes. I don't know why that word resonates something.

[D]

What word?

[C]

She kept saying, it's a haint.

[D]

Oh. And I'm like, what's a hate? I will say the creepy. Yeah. The creepiest thing was how the vampires needed to be invited in.

[C]

Oh, dude. I know.

[D]

They, like, weren't able to enter a building unless they were invited in, and.

[A]

They did it like real.

[B]

That's too scary.

[A]

Yeah. You've seen movies do it in a weird way. Like, Call Fairhell, that Fright Night movie. It was terrible. But the way they just. Yeah, the way they put that man, like.

[C]

Like, cornbread. Step aside, cornbread. How he comes up and he's like, hey, everybody. And he's like, were you gonna let me in? And everybody's like, you've been standing here all night. Why didn't you just come in?

[A]

Yeah. They're like, yeah, come. And then she's. And then she's like, the lady, she's like, hold on.

[C]

Why do you need to be invited in?

[A]

Yeah. You've been in and out here all day, and it's like, oh, man.

[D]

Oh, my.

[A]

She was on it. Without. Without her, everyone's dead.

[C]

When. When I saw.

[D]

Spoil it for everyone.

[C]

Okay, but you think. You think that some people got out when they left, right? And then you see this big old vampire party happening, and I literally. My gut sank.

[D]

Think you guys gotta stop talking about it.

[C]

Okay, well. And that's the thing. It. Why that movie was so good. I'm not spoiling you, though. The movie was so good because, I mean, they shot it well. The storytelling was so good.

[A]

It's a fun period piece. The music.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

I saw that in theaters and I was like, this is the best movie I've seen in a long time.

[B]

Better than Stranger Things. Yeah.

[C]

Did it end bad?

[D]

Speaking of which. Oh, what? It was bad?

[B]

I'm angry, dude.

[D]

No, I actually watched the ending, like, it was like, on a TikTok. And they just put the ending.

[A]

I'm like, well, I mean, the ending wouldn't make sense to you if you didn't see in, like, the whole show. Like, they did a lot of, like, they close it up. Well, but if you start thinking, you're like, wait a minute, but what about this and this? And you're like, well, that wasn't really. Well, I mean, if on surface level it's a good ending, I'm just glad that because, like, Sopranos, it's in the middle. I get the way it ends. It's like, you got to be kidding me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then this one was like, okay, they wrapped it up nice, but you just. There's a lot of plot.

[B]

The way that they ended the series. Like, take the entire. All the questions they didn't answer, but the way that they wrapped it up with that scene in the basement. Hit nostalgia. It started with nostalgia. It ended. That's great. But the entire, like, the show's bread and butter was like, what's happening? And kind of getting their fans, like, all riled up to connect dots. And then it's.

[D]

It's either the.

[B]

You know, there's like, this whole thing now where they're saying there's another episode that's gonna drop, but that's how bad the ending was, is that fans can't let it go. So they're like, no, this doesn't make sense. All of these hundred things, they're like, there's no way. It was written so bad that these hundred things don't add up. So now they're finding numerology. And, like, someone looked at books on the shelf and it says something in Morse code. How they're spread out, like, it's all that sort of stuff. So if there is an psycho fan behavior, if there is an episode that drops tomorrow, it's the greatest ending of a show ever. But there's no way that that happens.

[A]

It just blows my mind, like, to have something like, you're. Everyone is waiting for this season.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Everyone who's watched the show cannot wait. It's the final one. And they spent so much time.

[B]

Half a billion.

[A]

On a character that you're like, why do I care about this character so much? Like, why? Like, I don't. What is happening? So it was just weird.

[D]

Talk more about that character. What was wrong?

[A]

The character was terrible.

[D]

Why?

[A]

What are you talking about? What are you trying to get at?

[D]

Nothing. No, I'm just wondering why you didn't like this character so much.

[A]

She was a female.

[D]

Okay. Speaking of females, you guys, we got an extra episode right after this on our Patreon.

[A]

We sure do, guys. We do that every single week. You love watching the full episodes. Guess what? We have an extra episode.

[D]

And YouTube members.

[A]

Yes. YouTube members as well. You're part of the fam. We just. All you guys are part of the fam. But if you join Patreon, you get behind the scenes content, you get extra. You get discount merch. So why not join?

[D]

Yep, yep. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And also buy the new shirt.

[D]

Sundaycoolswag.com sending swag.com go get it now. And thank you to all our Patreon and YouTube members. We really love you and you guys are the best. And everyone watching is the best too. We love all of you guys, just.

[A]

The other people a little bit more.

[D]

There's certain people Andy doesn't love, apparently. This, this, this character.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

Anyone like that character?

[A]

What are you talking. I am missing this joke by a mile. Whatever you're doing, it's not making sense.

[D]

We'll talk about it.

[A]

Okay?

[B]

Sure.

[D]

All right, guys, we love you. Love you Patreon or YouTube members. Bye bye.

[B]

What you're about to see.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

May disturb you if any of you.

[B]

Know what these multi decade UAP.

[A]

Knows. Fish pigs was a massive police response. Oh, the dolphin thing. Dolphin style attack.