1881 - "Cow Cartel"

Summary

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No Agenda Show

Episode 1881 - "Cow Cartel"

Hosts: Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak
Date: June 28, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of No Agenda dives into the shifting political landscape in the US and abroad, deconstructing how Democratic Socialists are gaining ground inside the Democratic Party and what that means for the upcoming elections. Adam and John analyze media narratives about “communism” vs “socialism,” politicians’ responses, and the broader implications for both parties. The show also dissects global politics, tech industry trends, the podcasting wave, and the ongoing war against loneliness through No Agenda meetups.

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Key Topics and Discussions

1. No Agenda Meetups & Community Loneliness

• Meetups Discussion (00:43–06:40):
  • Adam and John reflect on the long-term growth of No Agenda meetups globally (Berlin, Ukraine, Japan, Australia, Brazil, Netherlands, UK).
  • Adam argues that No Agenda meetups play a vital role in combating the loneliness epidemic, especially among men ([03:02]):

    "These are people probably don't visit the same bars normally... I think we are actually combating loneliness in the world."

  • Ideas floated for enhancing meetups: celebrity guests, unique gimmicks (certificates, stickers), and bringing in friends.
  • Listener emails confirm the importance of these gatherings.

2. Mahjong Mania & Cultural Trends

• Mahjong's Explosive Popularity (07:00–09:03):
  • Listeners write in about the growing trend of Mahjong parties among American suburban women, with expensive custom tile sets ($500 a set).
  • John jokes about California being “boring” in comparison to the Mahjong craze.

3. Democratic Socialists & Party Politics

• Political Breakdown—New York & National Scene (10:03–18:24):
  • Dissection of recent New York primary upsets by Democratic Socialists (DSA-backed).
  • Senator Tim Kaine and others try to dismiss “communist” accusations as “goofy word salad” ([10:17–12:10]).
  • In-depth discussion of party identity crisis—how DSA challenges traditional Democrats.
  • Audio analysis of a “moderate manifesto” vs. genuine socialist policy goals and the media’s failure to ask tough economic questions on social programs:
    • "So is it pragmatic democratic socialism? I think democratic socialism at the heart is pragmatic." ([15:04])
  • Trump’s campaign using terms like “Godless communists” and warnings about socialism/communism ([29:05])

4. Policy & Taxation Rhetoric

• Gavin Newsom’s Leftward Pivot ([21:56–27:20]):
  • Newsom echoes socialist rhetoric—calls for a national billionaire tax, public equity fund, and more aggressive inheritance and corporate taxation.
  • Hosts poke holes in Newsom’s historical claims ("for the first time in American history...") and the practicality of inheritance taxes, noting the impact on farmers and small business.

5. The DSA Platform, Justice Democrats & CIA Ops

• David Sacks' Breakdown ([31:01–35:36]):

  • Sacks summarizes the DSA platform: abolish ICE, police, prison system, and the Senate, advocate for public ownership, "abolish the Electoral College," multi-party system, etc.
  • Warning that the Democratic Party could be taken over by radicals using “ballot access theory.”

• Comparisons to 1970s Political Ops ([36:22-41:58]):

  • John compares current events to how the CIA allegedly orchestrated political outcomes in the Nixon/McGovern era.
  • Suggests history is repeating—a "stooge" Democrat chosen to be crushed in 2028, distracting lefties, while the establishment maintains control.

6. Muslim Panic & Media Manipulation

• GOP Media Messaging (43:58–45:50):
  • Discussion of a Daily Wire segment hyping "Muslim takeover 2027"—noting how Republicans are trying to shift fear-mongering from “socialists” to “Muslims” in midterm narratives.

    "That's what they're gonna do... you don't want these Muslims, they're going to kill you. And that's what the play is."

  • Hosts agree this messaging is “dumb,” but note it may work electorally.

7. America’s Self-Esteem & World Cup Vibes

• Bill Maher's World Cup Monologue ([47:59–52:07]):
  • Maher argues that America’s problems are real, but not grounds for self-loathing—World Cup visitors highlight American strengths, boosting national morale.

8. Podcast Industry Critique

• Media Adopts 'Podcast Look' ([57:11–59:50]):
  • Criticism of mainstream media adopting video podcast aesthetics ("fake," "cheap," "rampant").
  • Hosts joke about the rise of “podcast consultants” and how style is now mistaken for substance.

9. Epstein Fallout & Elite Takedowns

• Recent Legal Developments ([61:08–68:18]):
  • John Bolton pleads guilty to classified info mishandling (ironic after his Trump criticism).
  • Leon Black subpoenaed by Congress about NDAs tied to Epstein—highlights cracks in elite impunity.
  • UK’s Keir Starmer resigns amid scandals and Labour decline; discussion of European political cycles mirroring US dynamics.

10. UFO/Alien Disclosure Fizzles Out

• Media & Podcast Hype Critiqued ([83:39–94:09]):
  • The “UAP” (UFO) narrative is exposed as a letdown—hype for movies and a distraction from real scandals like Epstein ("always in conjunction with a movie").
  • Highlights flaws in “disclosure” advocates and the lack of real evidence.

11. Ebola Outbreak and Blame Narratives

• Scripted NPR Coverage Mocked ([94:52–103:07]):
  • NPR’s tone and scripted delivery ridiculed. Blame for the Ebola outbreak laid at the feet of US (specifically Trump) foreign aid cuts.
  • Adam jokes: “And let's boil it down. It's Musk's fault. He needs to be taxed.”

12. Tech & AI Trends

• AI Token Economics & Public Markets ([103:35–108:22]):
  • Discussion on the "frontier tokens," open source LLMs, OpenAI/Anthropic IPO timing, and "composable model futures."
  • Noted: Enterprises pulling back on AI spend; battery storage as an AI play mocked as short-sighted.

13. Cow Cartel, Invasive Ticks & Rancher Woes

• Farm Industry OPs and Invasive Ticks ([108:50–111:33]):
  • Reports of “Asian longhorn tick” epidemic among cattle, related to cartel activities and possible sabotage by foreign meat packers. Tied to “Cow Cartel” episode title.

14. Immigration, TPS, and Trump's "Eating Dogs" Line

• TPS Supreme Court Decision ([113:12–116:18]):
  • SCOTUS upholds President’s authority to end Temporary Protected Status.
  • Hosts recall aid efforts in Haiti and corruption. Trump’s infamous debate line ("they're eating the dogs") celebrated.

15. Airline Safety, ATC, and Media Fear

• Airliner Near-Miss Surge ([116:22–119:54]):
  • Analysis of media sensationalism about ATC “near-misses.”
  • Adam gives technical insight—much is due to reporting changes, not actual increased danger.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Party realignment:
  David Sacks [31:09]

  “I think the choices of the future are going to be communism … or nationalism in the Republican Party. Those are the two populist directions.”

• On Democratic Socialism:
  Mayor Mamdani [14:01]

  “We believe in a growing, fair and competitive economy. Entrepreneurship, ownership ... But what's a party if not its voters?”

• On America’s Morale
  Bill Maher [48:10]

  “That’s because the name of our country is America, not Utopia.”

• On media and the podcast fad:
  Adam [58:25]

  “Some nerd in an overlit studio—it’s just so fake. So fake and terrible. Fake and gay!”

• On the Cow Cartel:
  Adam [109:21]

  “There’s clearly a correlation between cartels and cows. The cow cartel.”

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Additional Highlights & Segment Timestamps

• Meetup stories & loneliness epidemic: (00:43–06:40)
• Mahjong trend & luxury tiles: (07:02–09:03)
• New York socialists, platform discussion: (10:03–18:24)
• Gavin Newsom's big pivot left: (21:56–27:20)
• David Sacks’ DSA analysis: (31:01–35:36)
• CIA historical analogy & party machinery: (36:22–41:58)
• GOP “Muslim panic” messaging: (43:58–45:50)
• Bill Maher’s feel-good America segment: (47:59–52:07)
• Podcast industrial complex critique: (57:11–59:50)
• John Bolton and Epstein saga updates: (61:08–68:18)
• Keir Starmer resignation & EU politics: (70:01–72:23)
• UFOs & disclosure narrative collapse: (83:39–94:09)
• NPR Ebola coverage mocked: (94:52–103:07)
• AI & public markets: (103:35–108:22)
• Cow cartel and invasive ticks: (108:50–111:33)
• TPS Supreme Court decision: (113:12–116:18)
• Trump’s "eating the dogs" line: (115:25–116:26)
• ATC near-misses and systems: (116:22–120:10)
• Wrap up, meetups, and value for value pitch: (121:21–162:00)

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Episode Tone and Style

As always, Adam and John combine serious media/political deconstruction with irreverent humor, skeptical asides, and a heavy dose of sarcasm. They’re candid about the media’s manipulation and the cyclical nature of political hysteria, placing today’s outrage cycles in historical context. The show is peppered with inside jokes, callback gags (“eating the dogs”), live chat room references, and their characteristic banter.

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For New Listeners

This episode is a quintessential No Agenda experience: real-time parsing of media narratives, sharp critique of both parties, mockery of punditry, and an unwavering defense of community and independent thought. Whether you’re interested in American politics, media culture, or just want a humorous take, this episode delivers.

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End of Episode Quote—John C. Dvorak [163:19]:

“There’s nothing else like that on planet Earth.”

Transcript

[A]

I'm sorry. I'm going to stop talking.

[B]

Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak, it's Sunday, June 28, 2026. This is your award winning Get My Nation media assassination episode 1881.

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This is no Agenda monitoring mahjong mania

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and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody.

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I'm Adam Curry, and from northern Silicon Valley, where the Democrat socialists haven't taken over yet, I'm John C. Dvorak, Crackpot and buzz kill.

[B]

That's amazing. The whole Sunday shows were filled with people talking about. It is great.

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Yeah, it is great.

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Before we do that, how was the meetup?

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The meetup was fair.

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Fair.

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About 20 people. It wasn't that many, but we had the. There was the regulars and it was a good meetup.

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Well, I'll tell you that. People should tag no Agenda show on their Instagram pictures. This is what you do. This is how you.

[A]

Oh, yeah, well, I think that's good advice.

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This is what you do. Tina said, hey, hey. John had a meetup. Look at that. Because she's on Instagram and it showed up for her. So your. Your evil or Jay's evil plan is working. The Insta. The Instagram. We're going viral with the Insta. You know, I was, I was thinking about these meetups. We've been doing meetups for how many years now?

[A]

Ever since. Yeah. Actually began with you and the Hot Pockets tour.

[B]

Right. Oh, wow. So that was 2009, I want to say. Yeah.

[A]

And then it gravitated toward the trailer that you couldn't write off.

[B]

Well, I tried and that didn't end well for me. But since then, you know, we had, we were using. Were using meetups.com even for a little while, and people hated it.

[A]

Yeah, we were. For a very short time, people hated it.

[B]

And then Sir Daniel came in.

[A]

Then they, all of a sudden they wanted us to pay.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah, right. Like we're not gonna pay for a scheduling website. And then Sir Daniel stepped up and said, hold my beer. And he made NoAgainDameetups.com. that was thinking. Because, you know, at first the meetups were you and I attended, and then people started doing meetups where we weren't there. So they had our heads on sticks. I don't see as many heads on sticks anymore as.

[A]

No, I haven't seen a head on stick for a couple years.

[B]

Yeah, so that's.

[A]

That's over.

[B]

The heads on sticks are over. And it's a global Phenomenon. We had meetup in Ukraine. We just had one in Berlin. We have them in Japan, we have them in Australia. We have them in Brazil. We have them in the Netherlands, the uk. Not many in France, actually.

[A]

Well, there's the one with the gardere. Yes.

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Baroness Isabel. Yeah. You know, Pastor Brian had a message this morning about loneliness at 57. Despite our hyper connected world, 57% of Americans are lonely, and it's a majority of men. Now, his obvious message is that with Jesus, you don't have to be lonely. But I was thinking what an important thing these meetups are, because I was just looking at the picture of you and your people there at the meetup. And this is a very disparate group. These are people probably don't visit the same bars normally or the same hangouts. And some people may never get out of the house or just think or can't find people to hang out with. I think these meetups, everybody knows that you can come to the meetup and you can have one thing in common. It doesn't matter what angle you approach it from or what you think about politics or the world or life, you have something in common. And it's like, oh, we all have our amygdalas in check and we just want to hang out and have a drink and chat. And I think we are actually combating loneliness in the world.

[A]

So I want to up the ante on these things.

[B]

All right, all right, here we go.

[A]

Guests.

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Bring a guest.

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I'm going to have Brunetti come to one of the meetups. He's going to be the celebrity guest.

[B]

Oh, celebrity guests. Oh, that's a good one. Well, we've had a fair amount of celebrities throughout the years.

[A]

Yeah, but they're not celebrity guests.

[B]

But he's not really a celebrity guest because he listens to the show. He's a producer, although only an associate executive producer.

[A]

No, he's been executive producer. Don't get him mad. He won't do the gig.

[B]

He won't do the gig. Does he have a writer?

[A]

I'm not doing a gig if Adam keeps insulting me. Yeah.

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Come to think of it, he hasn't called me in a while.

[A]

I'm a little worried about it. Probably for good reason.

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So.

[A]

Yes, so that. So I think then, you know, you get the. I think the mercy me, guys. I mean, we got Jackie Green up here in Sacramento. He should come down. I mean, there are people. We have celebrities we can use as shills.

[B]

We have celebrities.

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We have celebrities. We should be using people that Come to the meetup. We needed extra gimmick, though.

[B]

What do you mean extra gimmick for the.

[A]

Well, some sort of thing like a certificate that you came to the meetup or you know, just something, just something a little extra.

[B]

Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

[A]

It's like the sticker guy who always comes to our, to the Albany meetup and he's always dropping off stickers.

[B]

Hey, the no Agenda Shop, no Agenda Sticker Club. That, that's a good deal.

[A]

Well, they're making some terrific. Their stickers are out of this, this world. They're fabulous.

[B]

And of course they're, you know, they're derived from no Agenda Art generator. But the one I got the, like the, the legal tender I got in the mail the other day and some other one, it's just, it's good. And they're the perfect size for sticking anywhere. You just stick them up on stuff. Stick them, stick them everywhere. People like, oh, that's a pretty near toll booths.

[A]

That's my recommendation as you're driving through

[B]

with your easy pass. You can do it.

[A]

Well, if you got it, you can get an easy pass. It's not going to do much good there.

[B]

So, so what is the gimmick then? When we have our celebrity appearances at the meetup? So what. What is the.

[A]

I don. Have to start thinking about it. Okay.

[B]

The most emailed response to this podcast. Is it about Iran? Is it about the war? Is it about the economy? Is it about the midterms?

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No.

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The most response I have received this week, I don't know about you because it's hard to spell Dvorak, is mahjong.

[A]

Well, that's interesting. One of our dames or dame in waiting, she's not quite yet who was at the meetup had from the 70s a mod because I guess in the 70s this was mah Zhang had a moment of popularity and she had a Mah Jong necklace that she had gotten in the seventies in New York.

[B]

Wow, that's great.

[A]

What do you think this is? And she shows it. And I said, that's a Mah Jong tile. I know that much

[B]

of all of them. Got so many different emails. This is from Sarah in Brentwood, Tennessee. ITm Adam and John. Mahjong has indeed taken hold with the suburban ladies of America. My neighborhood friends in the 40 plus club paid to learn from a pro two years ago and it's become our favorite girls night in activity. It's not just a silly game for bored women. It's a booming industry. There are countless companies that sell designer tiles. Oh, oh. Here's. How about a no agenda mahjong set? I'm thinking of something here. Design the average for these designer tiles. $500 a set.

[A]

Whoa.

[B]

Two of my good friends have 10 sets each. They are the most enthusiastic collectors of our group. You can find tiles to match any aesthetic, any hobby, or a session or podcast. I added that one of our girls is a die hard swifty. Hook her up with Darren. And she bought the Taylor tiles. What? The Taylor tiles for around $500. My friend who loves Jesus and America has a nativity set with baby Jesus as the jokers.

[A]

That's blasphemous.

[B]

She brought over her brand new $475 Patriot tiles yesterday to play at my house. Enclosed a picture of me winning on the New America tiles sporting my ac ac JCD swag. Maybe it's time for someone to design a no agenda mahjong set. Exit strategy.

[A]

Where is this person from?

[B]

At Brentwood, Tennessee.

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Again, this is one of the advantages of living in California. This is not out here.

[B]

No, you guys are boring. We've got cool stuff.

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Oh, yeah. There's nothing more exciting than a night in Mah jong.

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I don't know.

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I mean. Oh, yeah, no, you're right.

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I don't know. Don't knock it.

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I mean, hey, we still play Baccarat.

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Pinocchio was the thing. The one that got me last night.

[A]

Pinocchio. I still don't. I don't. Is that a card game? I don't even know. I think it's potato chips. I'm not sure what you play.

[B]

It's a pinochle with a shuffleboard on the wall. I never understood.

[A]

No idea.

[B]

Never understood it. Anyway, let's get back to the communism because that is fantastic. It's so funny. And the defense by some is just.

[A]

Yeah, I have a thesis. When we're done, I like to.

[B]

I'll kick it off. I know you have a couple of clips here, so let me kick it off.

[A]

Just a couple.

[B]

This is Senator Tim Kaine. This is from this morning on Spank the Nation. And he was just aghast about how stupid Trump's comments were.

[A]

Senator, I want to ask you a little bit about what's happening here at home. There were three far left candidates handpicked by New York City Mayor Mamdani, who won last week over more centrist candidates. Some are looking at that and saying, the reach of the left wing of your party seems to be expanding. And here is what President Trump said Take a listen. It's becoming a Communist party. These are not Social Democrats. These are hardcore godless Communists. They're godless communists. All communists are godless. They don't believe in God. This is the most serious threat to our country since its existence. What do you make of that attack here? And do you have concerns that the progressive platform of some members of the party will make it more difficult to win in other parts of the country headed into November? Margaret, what the President said is just goofy word salad. I'm not an expert on New York House races. I am an expert on Senate races. And we have got Senate candidates all over this country working to flip red seats blue by focusing on the President's mismanagement of the American economy. Families are suffering cost increases because of chaotic tariffs, illegal war, and focus on goofy things like ballrooms, arches and the

[B]

reflecting pool he likes. I don't know if this is a new term they're trying to launch. Goofy. I mean, it used to be weird. That was a pretty good one. Even according to Scott Adams. Rest in peace. Goofy may be a new term they're trying to launch.

[A]

It's possible, I mean, the idea of calling what Trump said word salad, to try to deflect from the usage for that of that phrase, I mean, aimed at certain Democrats, it is.

[B]

It is, I think, a very good characterization of communism. They. They are godless. Am I wrong?

[A]

Well, Marxism technically is Rejects religion, right? Yeah. Because the state should be the religion.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. So it wasn't goofy and it wasn't an attack.

[A]

Well, I know what he's talking about.

[B]

It wasn't an attack. But ABC this week, they had the man himself on. They had Mum Donnie on and discussed this. And this might flow nicely into your clips, I think, because I think I know what you have, because I actually was going to clip it, but I saw you come in with it, so I figured I wouldn't do it. Here he is, the Muslim mayor of

[A]

New York, and you're hearing some. Not just dismissive, though, there's resentment. And this is from fellow Democrats who think that this could jeopardize Democratic chances in the fall. I mean, you've got Josh gottheimer, a Democratic member of Congress, says many of us believe, as do I, if you're a socialist, you are not a Democrat. And in fact, they put out a manifesto today. Have you seen this thing? Sounds pretty socialist to me. Hold on. Wow, there's irony.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah. Manifesto, which is always, you know, that's a communist idea.

[B]

Either that or you're a mass murderer or you killed Charlie Kirk. One of the other.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's true. Yeah. It's a bad idea.

[B]

Yeah. Manifestos usually not seen as a good thing. Unabomber, you know, all these kinds of man. Although the Unabomber's manifesto was more like a guidebook for the future.

[A]

And in fact, they put out a manifesto today. Have you seen this thing? Sounds pretty socialist to me. It's not a communist manifesto. It's a moderate manifesto.

[B]

Moderate manifesto. Oh, really?

[A]

Saying we are capitalist, not socialists. We believe in a growing, fair and competitive economy. Entrepreneurship, ownership. I mean, this is a direct response. They've made it clear to what you did here on Tuesday, you know, that's great, but what's a party if not its voters? And I'm proud to sit in front of you as the mayor of our city, having received more than a million votes a little over. Little less than a year ago. And when we're talking about these incredible congressional candidates, they were won their races, and they won their races with a vision of what politics should be and one that actually speaks to working people. And for a lot of people who ask themselves, what does democratic socialism mean? And you can tell them the answer at a theoretical level, it's the choice to extend democracy from the ballot box the rest of their lives. But in terms of what it means, over these last seven months, we've seen a city with democratic socialist principles at the heart of it within our administration. And what we've delivered has been record lows when it comes to murders and

[B]

shootings because no one left. That's why it's record low. Everyone's leaving New York and the rest, they're soy boys and girls.

[A]

So is it pragmatic democratic socialism? I think democratic socialism at the heart is pragmatic. Because if we cannot deliver for working people, then what is this for? I'm not interested in writing a manifesto or frankly, in reading one. I'm interested in delivering. And that's exactly what we've been showing. But they're saying that if you're a socialist, you're not a Democrat. I mean, there's a room in the party for both of these views. Yes, here I am. Here are so many more. And I think what makes our party a beautiful party is the fact that it's a big tent that we have. But you've also said it has to be a party with a spine, with a backbone. Yes. Even a tent has to stay up. Yes. So does it have to stand firmly for these ideas that you're talking about that others are calling dangerous. I think it has to stand for working people and I think it has to be willing to fight for working people.

[B]

And I think that there are fight working people. These are liberal white women who are

[A]

offended by the prospect of a party that knows who it fights for and goes every day to work for that. Because what we've seen over many years is a willingness to not only explain away the status quo, but frankly, even to look to benefit from the status quo. And that's not what working people are looking for from our party.

[B]

It's so disappointing when I hear this interview with abc, like not even getting to the core of the policy. Who pays for what? How do you do this rent freeze? How does it work economically? It's just like this is the word salad.

[A]

So there was also a take. It's not just Democrats. You've probably heard what President Trump had to say about you and about the candidates you supported. And he warned that if socialists win, and he calls you communist, but you will start living with squalor. There'll be no food, no housing, no military, no law and order. There'll be nothing. And he had a few other choice words, by the way. He also said he still likes you. But what do you make of what he. I mean, the Republicans are going to make you the poster child for the Democratic Party. Let them. We don't have to ask ourselves what life looks like if a socialist wins. I won last November. And over the course of these last six months, what we've delivered for working people are the very things we were told were impossible. We've delivered free childcare for two year olds for the first time in New York City history. We've delivered tens of millions of dollars back to tenants who were taken advantage of by bad landlords. We've delivered 165,000 potholes being paved. Whoa. And we've done all while also delivering the lowest recorded crime in our city's history. That's what it looks like to have democratic socialism. And what you're seeing is that New Yorkers experienced this for six months and made the decision that they wanted to see more of it on the national stage as well.

[B]

I'm thinking if he if there's a democratic socialist in San Francisco and they fix the potholes, you might convert.

[A]

So they have this situation which you, you run into a lot, which is crimes down. This reminds me of the D.C. situation where they just misreport. So you take your police department, you put them under someone's thumb and you say, no, no, no. This is not a crime. Yeah. You don't report this. You don't report that. Now, you leave this off the bush. You leave that off the books.

[B]

They do that in Fredericksburg, too, for the tourists. No, no, that's not a crime. No.

[A]

So it's a common way of lowering crime statistics, which is the lie.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's been done in city after city, and these guys love to do that, so that's bull crap.

[B]

But the potholes, John.

[A]

Yeah, the potholes. If it's true.

[B]

Yeah. Is it true? Do you think they really close the potholes?

[A]

Well, I'm sure I like to know how you get a hundred. What? He said 160,000. What was the number?

[B]

I think it was 165,000. Hold on. Let me see.

[A]

Potholes. That many potholes?

[B]

Holy moly.

[A]

The first time in New York City. Who's doing the paving?

[B]

Let me listen.

[A]

We've delivered tens of millions of dollars back to tenants who were taken advantage of by bad landlords. We've delivered 165,000 potholes being paved.

[B]

165,000 potholes being Paved. They've delivered. That's a lot. That's a lot.

[A]

Being patched is probably the right term.

[B]

Well, paved over patch. I think that's a plus.

[A]

It's one of the 75,000 potholes.

[B]

That's one of your core issues.

[A]

It is. Well, for good reason. You ever hit a pothole?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that old Lexus of yours doesn't do too well when it hits a pothole.

[A]

No, it does fine, but you're running your teeth. It's not good. Yeah.

[B]

Did you want to play something here?

[A]

Well, unless you have more.

[B]

I do. I have a couple more. I have.

[A]

Yeah. Play yours out and then we'll play the analysis. This from David Sacks, but let's play yours first, and then we do move toward analysis.

[B]

All right. We have Senator Chris Murphy also on Spank the Press.

[A]

Let's first off, start with your reaction to the latest primary results out of New York. You've heard President Trump say that these candidates aren't socialists. He's gone as far as to call them communists. As someone who identifies communists as a progressive, is this a moment of. Of reckoning for establishment Democrats?

[B]

I think you're going to have different candidates being nominated in New York City and suburban Connecticut. This is a party that is also nominated and won with candidates like Abigail Spanberger and Mikey Sherrill. I want us to be a big

[A]

team party, and I've Been saying this for years. I think that it's actually a sign of a party that is alive and growing when there's a contest of ideas inside the party.

[B]

So I'm not a Democratic socialist, but I do believe that the Democratic Party has been historically way too timid in taking on corporate power. I think our party should have bigger ideas.

[A]

I put one on the table last

[B]

week, a $25 minimum wage. And I think we do have to have answers for the way in which corporations and billionaires are taking over and corrupting our politics. So I do think that there is somewhat of a trend that candidates who are confronting concentrated corporate power in a meaningful way are winning.

[A]

And I think that that is something

[B]

that the Democratic Party should pay attention to. This is not the right message. This is the wrong message. Israel is taking over our government. It's not the billionaires.

[A]

Come on. It's aipac.

[B]

We all know it's aipac.

[A]

But this kind of softening up these guys like what you heard, which is kind of what the Democrat socialist messages. Corporations are bad. Yeah. And they should be nationalized. This would get. I don't have the clip, but Gavin Newsom, unless you have it.

[B]

Oh, I do have it. Yeah.

[A]

Gavin Newsom basically came out. He didn't say it, but he's such a weenie that he saw what was going on. He said this must be a trend and it's going in that direction. First you have Mondami, then you got these three guys. I'm jumping on board. And he gives a talk about how we should just. A national billionaires tax. It's time for a national billionaires tax in a new social contract.

[B]

I just got to pat ourselves on the back for that transition. I'm sorry.

[A]

Oh, you know, you do that too often. It was so.

[B]

It was so slick.

[A]

And you had. You spiked the ball.

[B]

I'm sorry.

[A]

You constantly ruined.

[B]

I know, I know. I ruined it. There's radio guys everywhere going, wow, that was awesome. And I ruined it. You're right.

[A]

It's time for a national billionaires tax and a new social contract. Think about this.

[B]

Just 10% of people. 10% of people in this country own

[A]

two thirds of the wealth.

[B]

A 30 year old for the first time in American history is doing better.

[A]

Her parents. That's a five alarm fire. That's bullshit. Hold on. The first time in American history, you're telling me that during the Great Depression that that situation didn't happen over and over.

[B]

Why are you trying to get into history here? That makes no sense.

[A]

But he said for the first time in history, he's the one that used the word.

[B]

A 30 year old for the first

[A]

time in American history is not doing better than his or her parents. That's a five alarm fire. American wages have stood still and the costs cross the spectrum. Cost of living have skyrocketed.

[B]

The system is fundamentally broken.

[A]

The federal tax code, the corporate tax code and the inheritance tax code seem

[B]

to be written for a different set. Oh, that was my favorite, the inheritance tax code. We take it away, your children get nothing.

[A]

Americans, it's time for an economic reset. A true minimum tax.

[B]

Great.

[A]

Reset A true minimum tax on billionaires

[B]

that ensures the people at the very top pay at least the tax rate

[A]

their own workers pay. We also should end this tax free lifestyle loan. This is the gimmick that allows the ultra.

[B]

Wait a minute, wait a minute. Can I get a tax free lifestyle? Is there something, am I doing something wrong here? Is there a way to get a tax free lifestyle?

[A]

I guess so, if you don't have enough money.

[B]

Oh, I don't have enough money to have a tax free lifestyle.

[A]

So he's going on about as if, as if these guys are paying no taxes and not contributing. I mean this is the same lame

[B]

argument that you should be paying the same tax rate as your secretary because they have capital gains or different tax structures because they don't have an, they're not taking a salary. It's like yeah, okay, okay, yeah, we'll

[A]

use the lifestyle loan. This is the gimmick that allows the ultra by the way. This very. The number of people that can pull that off is very low. The most billionaires are paying a lot of taxes, including Elon Musk.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, quite a bit of tax money borrow against their stock portfolios while reporting no taxable income.

[A]

Well you also have to rewrite those inheritance rules so that the largest intergenerational wealth transfer in human history estimated about

[B]

well be $124 trillion that will be

[A]

changing hands doesn't lock in a permanent American aristocracy of inherited wealth time as well to return to the pre 2000 a second. Oh yeah, this guy study history and realize that third generation of most of these super wealthy people break the bank. They lose all the money on dumb stuff. On dumb stuff is they get taken advantage of. Meanwhile the third generation, with rare exceptions unless there's trusts and all kinds of safety things that are built in by the original guy.

[B]

Yeah, they blow it all. They blow it all. They blow it all.

[A]

They blow it all.

[B]

And, and of course this Immediately affects farmers. You want to pass on your farm to your kid? Yeah, why would I do that?

[A]

Right? You can't pass your farm off so it gets taken over by Cargill. I mean, is that what he wants? Cargill to own everything?

[B]

I can't, you know, pass off my podcast and my daughter. I mean, this is horrible. You imagine Christina and.

[A]

Yeah, I can.

[B]

Christina and Jay doing the podcast. Inherited wealth.

[A]

Time as well to return to the pre 2017 corporate tax rates.

[B]

And time to close those offshore loopholes

[A]

once and for all.

[B]

And as AI reshapes the country.

[A]

Hold on a second. Again. You just move the company to Ireland is what it. What they do. They don't go offshore. They in a half baked manner. When you like jack it up back to 35 or 40% tax rate, you just say, well just move the company. Take them right out of the usa. You get no taxes. Is that what you're looking for?

[B]

Gavin Newsom is a handsome man. I'm going to vote for him.

[A]

Pre 2007. He looks like Davis. X rates.

[B]

And time to close those offshore loopholes

[A]

once and for all. And for.

[B]

And as AI reshapes the country, every

[A]

American should own a piece of the future. It builds through a national public equity fund.

[B]

This is the Bernie thing. Trickle down economics.

[A]

Yeah. This is what's happening.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

He's caving into the stupid ideas because he thinks this is his route to the presidency. He may be the sucker. When I do my analysis about what I think is going on, maybe this.

[B]

38 seconds.

[A]

I'm sorry, I'm going to stop talking

[B]

trip builds to a national public equity fund. Trickle down economics. It's been a, well, nearly 50 year

[A]

experiment that has failed record. Corporate profits flowed into stock buybacks and executive compensation.

[B]

It's time to stop pretending otherwise. We're nearing the 250th anniversary of this country's revolution. The system the American founders built, well,

[A]

it was designed to prevent the concentration

[B]

of power in a few hands. What? Where in the Constitution was that put what constitutional amendment or what bill of right? Where is it that we set it up to stop the concentration of wealth? Is that accurate?

[A]

If it's in the Constitution, which is a small document, I never noticed it.

[B]

Is it in the fine print, Gavin?

[A]

But we've allowed that concentration to happen anyway. Slowly and in plain sight over the course of decades. Decades. But we can reverse it.

[B]

We can reverse it together.

[A]

It's time to democratize the American economy, our democracy.

[B]

All right, so I might as well play the. The gaggle with the president just to kind of close this out. President Trump, great night for Democratic socialist candidates. Last night in the New York primaries, they swept and knocked out two incumbents. You're from New York. Why do you think it is that now the endorsement of Zoran Mamdani means more than the endorsement of Hakeem Jeffries?

[A]

Well, they're going radical left. They're going really. You know, you talk about the Democrat socialists you took really. It's really communist. These people. I watched that woman last night. That's not a socialist. I know socialists. That's. That woman is a communist. And you know, what they don't say is that I was 16 and 0 last night, but mine were a little more boring, a little more mainstream. They were Republican conservatives, but we were 16,0. And if you look over the last two and a half years, we're about 347 and just about. Oh, that's pretty good. But nobody writes that. But he picked up three. They won. They beat a guy named Dan Goldman who's, you know, loser. He was one of my prosecutors, one of my many prosecutors that they used on me. Loser Dan Goldman, not a good prosecutor, fortunately. But he's now looking for a job. I would. I was very surprised to see, you know, because he's pretty liberal guy. When they go more liberal than Dan Goldman, they're really into never, never like.

[B]

And then the final question.

[A]

Does this tell you that The Democratic Party's 2028 nominee will likely be or could likely be a Democratic socialist? Well, it should make it easier for Republicans because most of the nation is composed of sane people. They don't want to, you know, if you look throughout history, go back thousands of years, you've always had socialism and communism by different names. It's never, ever worked. It's not going to work this time either.

[B]

It's never, ever. I don't think it actually has. Has ever worked. It doesn't seem like that's ever paid out very work.

[A]

It works for a while.

[B]

Yeah, it works. Of course. Couple years is great. People love it, huh? Fantastic.

[A]

So here's David Sachs. He's on your favorite podcast.

[B]

I saw this on the all in. Yeah, Sax was. Sachs was also the crypto czar and the AI Czar.

[A]

Yeah, he's very thoughtful. And I thought this analysis was quite good. I mean, I think the choices of the future are going to be communism or if you want to call it socialism in the Democrat Party or nationalism in the Republican Party. I mean, that is where we're headed. Those are the two populist directions. But let's look at what these DSA candidates stand for. So let's look at what their platform is. They actually say they want to abolish the Senate. They want to abolish the carceral state. That means basically police forces and prisons. They want to abolish ICE and grant amnesty for all. They do not support any deportations whatsoever.

[B]

And I should say while he's doing this, they have a picture of the manifesto on the screen where this is. He's reading it almost verbatim from their one page manifesto.

[A]

They want to replace the President and Supreme Court with an executive and judiciary that is chosen by and subordinate to Congress, which basically now I guess this means this House. And with respect to House elections, they want to abolish the Electoral college. They want to replace the two party system with a multi party democracy. And they want to expand the House of Representatives, implement proportionate representation and ranked choice voting in all elections. So this would be a total makeover of our constitutional system. They want to free Palestine. They want public ownership of major corporations. They want to defund the Department of War. This is a very radical organization and you would laugh at a lot of these types of proposals. But you can't really laugh at it anymore because these guys are taking over the Democratic Party. And you can see the Democratic establishment is in complete panic right now because they have lost control of the party to Zoram Mamdani and his allies.

[B]

That's the end of your clip.

[A]

Yeah, well it goes on. I cut it there for time. Yeah, that's the outline of what they're up to. And here's kind of his analysis of where this is headed. Take this one race here, New York 13. You've got this ally of Hakeem Jeffries, longtime incumbent Congressman Espalad I guess is is his name. He is the chair of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus and he was defeated by an unemployed 32 year old PhD candidate. She's never had a job. She's been in college for 10 years, I guess writing this PhD thesis. And I think even by DSA standards she might be kind of a lunatic. So she has declared that she wants to end Western civilization. She wants to eradicate Western civilization. She actually said she used the American flag as a napkin to clean her hand. She attended her out one day after October 7th celebrating the slaughter of Israeli civilians. I mean she's very pro Palestine, but even to the point of celebrating Israeli civilian deaths. She calls white women ugly colonizers. She's called for the complete defunding of the police and abolishing all prisons and borders. Doesn't want a single deportation. Hates the police, openly calls them pigs or has on social media before. Calls U.S. service members war criminals and says the U.S. is a disgrace of a country. She's written favorably about communism and seizing the means of production. This is basically the new Democratic Party. It's going to be. Even if the Democrats do take the House in November and Hakeem Jeffries becomes Speaker, this is going to prove to be a huge headache for him managing all these new DSA members because they do not actually see the traditional establishment wing of the Democratic Party as an ally. They see it as an obstacle. This is the DSA co chair Josh Block said. We're using the Democratic Party as a ballot access vehicle. Oh my God. Not because we share its goals. We build our own organization, get elected under the Democratic label, caucus with Democrats when it's useful and push our own agenda from the inside. We see the Democratic establishment as an obstacle, not a home.

[B]

Didn't that already fail with the squad? Wasn't that exactly what the squad tried to do?

[A]

Well, that were Justice Democrats, if you recall. I mean, they became dsa, but they were originally Justice.

[B]

No, AOC was always dsa. She was recruited and trained by dsa.

[A]

I thought she was a Justice Democrat at first.

[B]

I'd have to look it up. I'm pretty sure.

[A]

Well, this is to me as a CIA op.

[B]

I. You know what the thing is, this is not what is going to happen matter in elections.

[A]

Well, it's not about. Do my analysis.

[B]

Do your analysis, please.

[A]

Yeah, because the CIA op and this was indicated because of that Stefanik or not Stefanik, but that woman that's in the CIA, woman that's in Michigan.

[B]

Do we have a clip? Do we have a clip?

[A]

No, I don't have a clip of her, but she kind of sided with. These guys are kind of pushing this. This is a mirror image of what happened in the 72 election.

[B]

Ah, here we go. History at work, lad and gentlemen.

[A]

So during Nixon got involved.

[B]

Wait, wait, stop, stop, stop. Where you do this analysis? I just have to point out that there's a whole side Nixon thing going on right now with J.D. vance. So that is interesting.

[A]

That may be. It may be a sign. Part.

[B]

Part of the signal or part of the signaling. Signaling.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

All right.

[A]

And so. So, so we had the CIA got. Let's say the CIA did what Ron Paul said, which is they took over the country. And so they would. They were the ones that were responsible for Nixon getting in in 68. Because Hubert Humphrey should have won. He's a good guy. Everyone hated Nixon. But somehow he gets in so they, they help him get in. So he gets in in 68 and he is running in 72. He's not finishing the war like he's supposed to in the way he's supposed to. Something's up. And so they.

[B]

He was a good guy. Wrong.

[A]

And so an anti war movement begins with Gene McCarthy and he gets things started and he's going to be the candidate. I got to meet him, he was at Cal Berkeley giving a speech. And I talked to him afterwards and some radical is yelling at him. He's very calm and collected. He didn't have a bunch of secret service or anything. He was a really nice guy. And then he got pushed aside by Robert Kennedy because they saw that he was making headway and we don't want that. Cuz the guy was, you know, sincere and he wasn't connected and who knows what. So Kennedy gets in but we don't want him either.

[B]

We bump him off.

[A]

So they shoot him. And RFK Jr still thinks it was a, you know, scam. Yeah, who shot him? He's got his own theories and okay, we'll go along with that. So he's out and so they move in. The stooge, George McGovern who I also met, he gave a speech at Berkeley and I went and chatted with him for a while and he was a really nice guy and I voted for him. And George McGovern came in.

[B]

Didn't they shoot McGovern too?

[A]

No, they didn't shoot McGovern. And so McGovern came in but he was the, he was the patsy. He was too left leaning and he was too, you know, he was anti war but not in a good way. But he was just, it was a setup and they put him in and he got annihilated by Nixon in 72 was the biggest landslide in US history to this date. And so that's kind of the setup they're doing this time now. What happened to Nixon was he, you know, he started being mean to the CIA, wouldn't play ball, wanted to break him up. And they had all, you know, they'd already set him up with this. As we read in the book Family of Secrets by Russ Baker, who outlines very carefully what happened to Nixon when it came to Watergate. The whole thing was a CIA operation and it was sitting there waiting to be ready. It was done. It was a done deal. And all they do is pull the trigger. And then Nixon would be out because he wasn't playing ball. And he wasn't. Okay, so he wasn't playing ball. So they pulled the trigger on him and get him out of there. So that was the whole thing. This could happen again.

[B]

Which is just as an aside. This is exactly what Vance is saying. Vance is saying the. He says they. But we all know what he means. They got Nixon out and that's what they tried to do with Trump in the first term. This is the analogy he's making right now, which apparently just looking at the quad screen is starting to walk back a little bit. But he said it.

[A]

Yeah, I think that's true. But they didn't really do the same. The number they did on Nixon was, was flawless. It was fantastic. And so he, they actually, it worked with him. And he was, he had the personality that he caved. Trump was. Is a stronger personality. I think he got through it. And he, and they also. There's some thought that Trump was given the, the 2016 election by the CIA to begin with. And it was apparent that he wasn't gonna play ball. So they make his life a little miserable. And then they rousted him in 2024, 2020, because Biden did that ridiculous election and they put the idiot in and so that Trump got back. But this is a setup to make sure that these Democrat socialists are sidelined because we don't need the aggravation of these people being too high up in government. So they're going to put a stooge as who's going to run against either Vance or Rubio and they're going to get annihilated. Not to the extreme that McGovern did, but maybe. And that the whole thing is set up for that. And so this Democrat socialist thing, which is bogus. That election in New York, there was only 10% turnout. It was all immigrants. It was pathetic. The whole thing is a setup to get some. To get these guys to follow the Bernie's. This was in the newsletter too, by the way. People should have read that. Yes, to follow the Bernie Sanders idea that. Well, there's just not left enough. So you got to go more left, go completely radical, which is nonsense, and run some screwball. And it may be Newsom trying to worm his way into this position to get killed. But Whoever runs in 2028 against the Republicans is going to get wiped out. Now, how about setup?

[B]

Okay, so everyone at this moment, all the analysis only about the midterms.

[A]

Right. But they're not looking ahead.

[B]

No, no.

[A]

The midterms are, they're the lost cause. The midterms are a lost cause. The Republicans, there's no way they can hold the House. They maybe will hold the Senate because of the stupidity of that guy in Maine. He's going to lose to Susan Collins. Susan Collins has a machine or something up there. She's just going to get in again.

[B]

Well, here. So the playbook as I see it for the midterms is not a bunch of commies and socialists. The playbook is Muslim. That's what the Republicans are pushing and they're pushing it hard because one of those DSA candidates is Muslim. Didn't the Jewish guy start doing the Muslim prayer?

[A]

The Jewish guy went to a Muslim meet up. Yeah.

[B]

And, and I think the fix is in on this Producer sent me. You know the Daily Wire? They have a podcast, it's the Morning Wire, where you get your, your, your news.

[A]

No, I've never heard it.

[B]

Oh, it's a decent, you know, it's like 18 minutes, 19 minutes. Usually kind of an overview from their perspective. Of course they're doing video, which they should never have done because there's some nerd and it was like an overlit studio. It's just. Okay, yeah, annoys me. But at the very end, and this is the audio of it and so you can imagine the pictures. It's like twin towers coming down, all kinds of horrific images. And I only heard, and I only heard the audio. And I was like, wow, this is crazy. At the very end, it's like, you know, the Muslim takeover coming in 20. 2027. Or is it already here?

[A]

2027. Yeah. Do they know that? Anybody do statistical analysis?

[B]

Listen to this. We'll be back. And this is at the very end of the podcast, just for no reason, no tease or anything, this just pops in.

[A]

We'll be back this evening.

[B]

More news you need to know.

[A]

We have a terror warning in Northern Virginia.

[B]

Radical Islam has designs openly on the West.

[A]

The FBI thwarted a terror plot on New Year's Eve. Violent attack over the Halloween weekend in Michigan. Protests on college campuses showing no signs of stopping.

[B]

Showing. New york, dearborn, chicago.

[A]

What?

[B]

Oh, yeah. People getting beheaded, shot. Oh, yeah. Big caption. Muslim takeover 2027. Or is it already here?

[A]

Is that what it says?

[B]

Yes. And this, and this is the Shapiro outfit. So you know, you know that this is part of some Republican machine that is, that is doing this and that's going to be the play. It's like you don't want, you don't want these Muslims. They're going to kill you. And that's what. That's the play. I'm telling you. That's the play. That's what they're going to do.

[A]

Well, it's dumb.

[B]

Yeah, but it's working well.

[A]

Is it?

[B]

Yeah, I think so. If you want to get people to.

[A]

Well, wait, listen. Well, hold on. Do you think it's working enough that the Republicans can hold the House?

[B]

I really haven't run the numbers, and

[A]

to be honest, I can tell you. No way.

[B]

I really don't care.

[A]

No way.

[B]

Well, I'll take that bet for a buck.

[A]

2. Oh, you double this bet.

[B]

Trying to get your money back, huh?

[A]

Yeah, yeah. I'm down two dollars. I'm going back. I'm going for it.

[B]

Two bucks. Everybody write it down. Okay. Bill Maher caught on to what I said and what you questioned. I'm presuming you kind of.

[A]

What did I question?

[B]

The tourists loving America here for the World Cup.

[A]

Oh, yeah. I still question it. You said I like it. I mean, I saying it. And I decided. I tried to figure out what it is. I think it's the Chamber of Commerce. They're trying to get more European tourists.

[B]

No, man, it's real. I said.

[A]

Oh, bullsh. It's. You know, everybody's talking. I got into a big argument at the dinner table with everybody over this because I was in with Mimi on the phone.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And she's bought into it. JC's bought into it. Oh, he backed off a little bit. He's got his own. He's. He listened to me, unlike the rest of them. And everyone else is all hook, line and sinkers. Like they got a hook in their mouth. They're being dragged. Dragged out of the water with a. With a fishing pole. Really?

[B]

This is what you think?

[A]

I've said my piece.

[B]

You're the man who actually believes these Whatever girls are that stupid.

[A]

But I got a great Whatever girls clip for today.

[B]

But you're telling me that this is not real? You're telling me all these videos are not real?

[A]

No, there's one or two. Of course there's a. There's a couple that are real.

[B]

All real. It's so obvious from the man who posts Biden telling everyone to listen to the no Agenda show. Come on.

[A]

Yeah, that's. That's my point.

[B]

Here is Meyer with the setup.

[A]

And finally, new rule. Let's all give it up for soccer being the greatest sport. No, no, no, not the game itself.

[B]

That sucks.

[A]

I mean, there's More scoring at a Star Trek convention.

[B]

All right, there's your line.

[A]

Good one.

[B]

But I am loving that the World

[A]

cup has brought to our shores all these people who are doing Americans the service of reminding us, just when we needed it on our big 250 birthday,

[B]

that actually this place is kind of awesome.

[A]

And yes, I know. How dare I? How privileged. When there are so many problems and

[B]

threats and people left behind.

[A]

All true.

[B]

I could give you the statistics where we are not good enough and have done so many times.

[A]

Infant mortality rate, 54th in the world. Women in government, 85th. Overdose deaths, lack of health insurance.

[B]

Yes, many problems.

[A]

But that's because the name of our country is America, not Utopia.

[B]

Okay? So good lead in, good lead in. And if anything, if this is any kind of op, it's a brilliant move by Trump who's like, this is gonna be great. He saw it, he understands this is gonna be great for America. And the result is not so much that tourists want to come to America. The result is that Americans feel good about their country for the first time in 20 years. Like, oh, you know, and hey, you're the, you're the, you're the Costco guy. You're the Europeans. Can you believe, can you believe it? We go to this place called Costco that John C. Dvorak told me you get the best wine, Bordeaux for $2.99, you buy it in the case. It's fantastic. America is great.

[A]

There actually are some good things about

[B]

us, even with all the ice nonsense.

[A]

We have more immigrants than the next four countries combined. We have to fight for it, but still have freedom of speech and assembly and trial by jury. And even if you're found guilty, you can still ask a Kardashian to get you a pardon. Other countries struggle just to have water. Here we make it, put on a show. In the desert, no less. We have drive throughs for both church and sex toys. That's right, you can buy a dildo, then ask the Lord to forgive you for it without ever leaving your car. We have the strongest intellectual property, the most innovative R and D, the highest gdp, the most valuable companies, and the most trillionaire

[B]

picture of musk.

[A]

Now look, maybe it's a coincidence, but I think it's something in the American system and character that we have the

[B]

highest number of Nobel prize winners and

[A]

invented the light bulb, the telephone, the

[B]

smartphone, the airplane, personal computers, and the party sized bag of extra flamin hot cheetah.

[A]

Plus you can believe in whatever crazy religion you want here. And 24 states have legal weed and our pop stars can juggle knives. Happy Fourth, everybody.

[B]

And that's what I thought was interesting, is that he, you know, as they call it, the great American sleepover where your cousins were. Told you to never go visit your other cousins because the parents hate each other. But that's not really. That's one result, which may be good for the Commerce Department, but the real result is this. People like Bill Maher. He's a negative guy on a lot of things in the country.

[A]

He's a negative guy.

[B]

Yeah. And so I think that that's a very positive thing.

[A]

Anytime Mara goes off on one of these tangents. Yeah, of course it is.

[B]

Yeah. So I think that's positive.

[A]

But, yeah, that's what you have to do.

[B]

I like this.

[A]

So.

[B]

So let me just set the scene. So it's the dinner table. It's. JC Is his wife with him that y' all get together? Yeah, she is. Oh, I forget her name.

[A]

Jesse.

[B]

Jesse. I'm sorry, J.C. and Jesse, you've got Jay and Brandon and Brennan. Brennan. Sorry, Brennan.

[A]

And get back to him.

[B]

I'm sorry, Brennan.

[A]

He says. Yeah, he calls me a deadbeat.

[B]

No, no, no, that's your word. Don't you put that. Don't you put that.

[A]

No, he knows better.

[B]

Wait, he still doesn't have a job. What? Anyway, that's beyond the point. Beside the point.

[A]

And Mimi is beyond the point.

[B]

Mimi is on the speakerphone.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Now, is she eating dinner as well at the same time?

[A]

No, she's just yakking about something. And it was like this conversation. This came up in the conversation because somebody mentioned it. They said, oh, you know, what about these stupid videos? And I didn't say that, but they mentioned the videos and that just set me off. I had a deal with Adam on this and he won't buy into it either.

[B]

No, no. Because I know people in Europe.

[A]

Such a phony deal. You can just. The only Walking Down Broadway.

[B]

Gee, no, I. I just disagree. It's not these videos, you know, you.

[A]

You. When you get suckered, it's. So you're all in.

[B]

Why? Why do you think I'm getting suckered? What evidence do you have for this? There's no evidence. You're saying it's your.

[A]

It's your commentary.

[B]

You're falsely claiming this without evidence.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, the evidence is apparent now. We need evidence now.

[B]

On the flip side of patriotism, the Freedom250 mall is not such a success. It doesn't.

[A]

That's not the message I'm getting.

[B]

Really? Yeah.

[A]

We got some people wrote in some boots on the ground and said it's a dog.

[B]

Oh, it's not the crowd size for the president's speech. That's what. That's the only thing I'm sure.

[A]

Yeah, that's what. Well, that's different.

[B]

Well, most people I know here are either going just before the 4th or they're actually going on the 5th or the 6th.

[A]

Well, you want to go on the 4th for the fireworks?

[B]

I think you would. I think you would. Yeah.

[A]

800,000 shells, bombs bursting in air.

[B]

This is a no.

[A]

Then on July 4th, we will have the greatest show of all on the National Mall. Your favorite president will be speaking. So please show up, because if we have two empty seats, you know what's going to happen? The fake news is going to say he didn't fill out the arena. I mean, he does protest is so much.

[B]

He does protest with too much. He's not protesting.

[A]

He's right. I was looking at today's headlines on the, you know, the phony baloney. You go to a web browser now you get all these headlines.

[B]

Are you using Edge?

[A]

I use Firefox. And so you go, and they've done it now. I mean, it's over. And so everyone is doing it. You're crazy not to. And so one of the headlines was, Trump says nobody walked out on a speech, but two people were seen leaving and fill out the arena. I mean, he does protest is so much that we're the problem. He seems to be the problem when

[B]

it comes to empty seats.

[A]

Clearly showing the vulnerability that this exposes, the lack of attendance, the lack of enthusiasm and people walking out looking for non political, I guess, most generous description.

[B]

Did you even talk to them? Acts?

[A]

Yeah, I think, yeah, that's a good point. They're mind reading again.

[B]

They're good at it. That's what they do, man. Acts.

[A]

Yeah, I think this celebration would have been a lot better had Trump not made himself the center of it. But unfortunately with Donald Trump, he's incapable of doing that. I mean, he wants to be at the center of every bit of this America 250 celebration.

[B]

And last night, I think you saw

[A]

how the crowd feels about that. As soon as he came on, the crowd started to thin out. And I think come the fourth of July, because the fireworks are at the

[B]

end, you might not see that as much.

[A]

But last night there was nothing to look forward to after Trump. So they got their pictures and they head for the gates.

[B]

So there's a change at Miz now. Ms. Now. And I think we already called this. They are going to do podcasts on their channel and they have a deal with crooked media.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, it was Pod Save America and then the most interesting person from Nicole. What? So they're literally going from the same dumb people now. The same dumb people with headphones and a microphone in their face and this.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And this is rampant. I see it on Bloomberg. I see it on BBC.

[A]

I'm seeing it all over. And it's. And it's terrible.

[B]

It's so fake.

[A]

It's. It's fake and terrible. Yeah. Fake and gay.

[B]

It is exactly what it is. I wasn't gonna say it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What. What is this? So if you.

[A]

Cheap, it's cheap.

[B]

So we just.

[A]

What is it? Can you guys. Do you guys get some of those Logitech cams?

[B]

I don't even know. I.

[A]

You know, I think you use your own mic. No, use your own mic. You get a mic.

[B]

It's often. It's often like Bloomberg. They're still doing it in the same set. BBC is at night. It's the BBC nighttime set. They just do less camera switching and everyone's got cans on and a mic and they're talking down, not looking into the. Not looking into the camera or, you know, at the. At the other person. You know, they're kind of looking down at the mic. And I think that someone just, hey, these podcasts, man.

[A]

This is.

[B]

The podcast is where it's at, everybody. And a podcast, of course, it's video. Just look at Joe Rogan. Look at. We need that. We need Joe Rogan type success. Let's bring the consultants in. Well, yes, we. As you can tell from our LinkedIn profile, we. We were podcast consultants.

[A]

There's a lot.

[B]

How many podcast consultants hit you up on LinkedIn?

[A]

Lots.

[B]

A lot of them.

[A]

I get probably one, two, or three a week.

[B]

Yeah, I'm a part. I can help you grow.

[A]

There's either that or the SEO, but this is mostly podcast. Oh, you know, we do this. We can get your numbers up.

[B]

I can help you grow your show.

[A]

Yeah, they have me. Grow. Grow, headache.

[B]

Grow.

[A]

We got about a million listeners. You're going to do what?

[B]

Grow your show.

[A]

And.

[B]

And they said, well, you know, you really got. It's really about the style, because a podcast, it's really. It's this style of. Of video.

[A]

You know, it's not.

[B]

It has nothing to do with our sauce. It's a style of video. I don't know where this voice comes from, but that's what I imagine these people sound like. So that's what they're doing.

[A]

That voice is. That's not it. That's not your best.

[B]

No, no, I can do better. Getting better.

[A]

I mean, you can be more accurate. There's not an. It's, it's, that's. That's a funny voice, but it's not, it's not. It's for these people, for the, for the consultants.

[B]

I've never. Class, I've never spoken to one, so I, I couldn't really. I couldn't really know.

[A]

I. Yeah, I think you, you've spoken to one, but you don't know it.

[B]

No, I. My login, for some reason on, on LinkedIn, it's like whenever, whenever I. So I, they want me to log in again and I have my password and they say, well, we haven't seen you in a while. We don't recognize this device. This is Omarchi Arch Linux. So we need to confirm this with you. We're going to send you a code to adambcurry.com and the code comes six hours later. And then I put the code in. This code has expired.

[A]

Yeah, I love that.

[B]

It's a loop that I can't seem to get out of. I don't know why it just happens

[A]

to you on Instagram too.

[B]

Instagram suddenly worked again. I mean, that's one of our producers listening. Who fixed me there, I'm pretty sure.

[A]

Yeah, we need someone, some producer that

[B]

works at X. Yeah, that would be nice.

[A]

So we can get our. So we don't have a. We're not throttled.

[B]

Let's see, we have a couple different places we can go, I'd say. First of all, we have a. We have our first conviction. It's not the most satisfying one, but listen. We have a conviction of mustache man.

[A]

Breaking news.

[B]

Breaking news.

[A]

John Bolton just pleaded guilty in his classified documents case. Bolton was indicted last year on 18 counts related to his handling of sensitive government information. Now prosecutors say said he shared it with two relatives for possible use in a book he was writing. As Mr. Bolton just admitted, he put our national security at grave risk in violation of the law. Our system of classified information is designed to protect sensitive information that would jeopardize national security if mishandled. And the national defense information at issue in three. This case was classified at the highest classification. Classified. Classified.

[B]

The Hill had a little longer report which gave us some more detail. But.

[A]

Well, before you play it, I have the old Bolton.

[B]

I'm glad you got that. Here it is.

[A]

Wait Let me set it up. This was right after Trump got the Mar A Lago raid.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Bolton got on all the shows and this is what he said then. He has committed very serious crimes. This is a devastating indictment. I speak here as an alumnus of the Justice Department myself, because not only is it powerful, it's very narrowly tailored. They didn't throw everything up against the wall to see what would stick. This really is a rifle shot, and I think it should be the end of Donald Trump's political career.

[B]

He who digs a pit for another will fall in it himself, they say.

[A]

Breaking news from the federal courthouse in Maryland. Former Trump National Security Adviser John Bolton has just pleaded guilty to a singular count of unlawfully retaining national defense information. Prominent Trump foe has now admitted that after he left the White House during President Trump's first term that he unlawfully kept diary like entries about his day to day work. Specifically, John Bolton is pleading guilty to one of the 18 counts he was originally indicted on by a grand jury last fall. That indictment accused him of transmitting thousands of diary like entries to two relatives in preparation for a potential book. But John Bolton now avoiding those 17 counts by agreeing to plead guilty to a singular felony charge of retaining national defense information. As part of this deal, he's agreed to pay a roughly $2 million fine. And now the question becomes, will he face prison time? This deal means that he could face up to five years in prison.

[B]

Five years.

[A]

But that's gonna be a question for US District Judge Theodore Chuang. He's the former, he's the appointee of former President Obama who's assigned to oversee this case. And it is up to him to decide whether John Bolton will ever be behind bars. He already has set that sentencing date. We are expecting John Bolton to come back into court to learn his punishment later this year on October 28th. But already this is a major shift for the prominent Trump foe and former national security advisor. When John Bolton was first charged, he had claimed that he was a vindictive prosecution victim, part of a retribution campaign by the Trump administration. But today, in a federal courtroom, John Bolton now admitting to one of these charges. And as he entered that guilty plea, he told the judge, quote, when asked if he's guilty, I am, your honor. I'm sorry for it.

[B]

So this is, this is a win. It's shallow. It doesn't feel like a win. Like, who cares? You know, Bolton, I mean, it's, it's good for the know in the people because we always thought it was a creep.

[A]

Yeah, totally.

[B]

I still Think it was a part of that fart club in New York, Although we can never seem to agree on that. The fart sniffing club. Remember that?

[A]

Yes. Some creation of yours.

[B]

Ah, must be. But then we have. And there's a couple of victims of the Epstein files. We'll guess his starmer in a moment. But Leon Black voluntarily came in to give his deposition. He has run Apollo global management. I think he's had some scandals or some stuff in the past, maybe unrelated, but this didn't go too well for Mr. Leon Black. Black testified before the house oversight committee today. Things broke down when Republicans and Democrats

[A]

demanded answ about non disclosure agreements with women in Epstein's orbit, some of whom

[B]

now assert they were victims of Epstein's abuse. After Black ended the interview, the committee issued two subpoenas.

[A]

I have just issued two subpoenas to Mr. Black. One for all the NDAs that he is party to and second for. For a deposition on July 16th. So this is a result of refusing to answer specific questions about the NDA, NDAs and the terms. We believe that information is vital to our investigation. I will remind everyone that Mr. Black came in voluntarily, but they are refusing to disclose that. So I have issued the subpoena, and we are handed it to him as we speak.

[B]

And this cannot be coincidence after the first lady's sudden statement where she said, hey, let these victims testify before congress. It can be in closed committee. Doesn't have to be public. They will not be violating their NDAs when Congress requests that you disclose that. So I feel that there's kind of no coincidence here about these NDAs, because this is what it really boils down to and. And it's not looking good for. For Black. Black's attorney spoke to reporters after he left Capitol Hill.

[A]

Mr. Black came here voluntarily to assist the committee. They made a premeditated political decision to serve him with subpoenas after less than an hour of questioning and before they even asked a single question about his legitimate payments to Epstein. I want to be clear. As Mr. Black said in his opening statement, he never abused a woman. He never was with an underage woman. He never engaged in sex trafficking. He never paid Epstein for access to women. He was never Black. Capote. Who is this? I don't.

[B]

I don't even know if it's a man or a woman.

[A]

He never paid Epstein for access to women.

[B]

I think it's a dude.

[A]

He was never blackmailed by Epstein. Black said he never knew anything. He never did anything wrong, and he of any wrongdoing. Epstein A lot of money. He paid a lot of money to

[B]

others to conceal things and avoid further legal action. He never knew anything or did anything. Perhaps a subpoena and the threat of

[A]

perjury before Congress will shed more light on all this.

[B]

Yeah, maybe it will. And then we have another political victim. A fallout of the Epstein files. Unfortunately, it's not in America. But Keir Starmer, we. We must remember that this all happened because of Mandelson. Mandelson was his guy. What do you mean?

[A]

Well, I think that report that came out about the 250,000 raped girls in England didn't help much.

[B]

No.

[A]

Although nobody's talking about it. That's some sort of screwy cover up.

[B]

Have you seen Citizen Vigilante?

[A]

Oh, my God. Yeah. Wow. If you don't. People don't want to watch. You just watch the last 15 minutes.

[B]

Well, I. I started watching it, I'm

[A]

like, holy crap, go watch the last 15 minutes.

[B]

No, I'm gonna watch the whole thing.

[A]

I mean, I'm halfway through saying the last 15 minutes summarizes the way it's been marketed.

[B]

And this just came out of nowhere. Elon Musk posts the whole video on.

[A]

Yeah, Elon Musk post the old video, but no one did. The Germans banned the movie. Screw them. I'm going to post it on X. That's because he's got a. Elon's got a hard on for the EU because they keep trying to cut X out of the picture.

[B]

Well, the marketing is phenomenal. The marketing is they won't allow this to be seen. Which there's no evidence of that. There's no evidence that it was forboating anywhere.

[A]

Well, we don't know. I mean, I'm not in Germany. Maybe one of our German listeners can tell us.

[B]

And it's not even set in Germany.

[A]

No, it just. No, it said. Well, where is it set?

[B]

It seems. I'm not sure. I think Norway or Denmark.

[A]

Feels hard to tell.

[B]

It's a little hard to tell.

[A]

Not you mentioned. It starts off, says Europe.

[B]

Yeah, Europe. Yeah. Like that's innocuous Europe. So.

[A]

Yes. And it proves a couple of things. It's a good idea for a story, but it also proves that Armie Hammer.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Can't act. Well, he probably is terrible.

[B]

I wonder if he financed it with some of the Arm and Hammer inheritance.

[A]

I. I don't know. There's some. There's one name that's attached to it. I don't think it's.

[B]

Put it this way, it's just not a Dana Brunetti production.

[A]

But it's not.

[B]

It's bloody, though. It's bloody.

[A]

The acting is not up to par, but it's bloody. It's extremely violent.

[B]

The violence is off the chain. Anyway, here's. Here's Starmer giving it up. This week marks 10 years since Britain

[A]

voted to leave the EU.

[B]

It sounds like NPR is just so sa somehow.

[A]

And in those 10 years, Britain has lived through six prime ministers gearing up now for number seven. I was trying to remember when you took over the London beat, Lauren. Like, what prime minister were we on? We were on five. Rishi Sunak, he was new.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And now. So I've seen the end of Rishi Sunak's term, all of Keir Starmer's term,

[B]

and you're telling me that these British tourists who coming to the World cup up in America and see this nonsense going on in their own country and they've been told that we have a horrible, horrible political system. It's no good. They're going through their sixth prime minister now. They know what's up and we're going.

[A]

They know what's up before they came here. They're not. That's what that. So that's insincere.

[B]

That's why they're. They say, hey, it's not that bad in America, then we don't have rape gangs. You know, in. In Florence, my. My nephew was robbed at the train station by a bunch of immigrants. This is crazy.

[A]

Prime minister in 10 years. And that looks to be Andy Burnham, who we're going to talk about in a second. But first, I want to take a Andy Burnham. We got to talk about this guy. He's another stooge.

[B]

He's great.

[A]

Many news cycles ago, all the way back to Monday, the question my party

[B]

is asking now is whether I am best placed to lead us into the next general election. I have heard the answer of my

[A]

parliamentary party to that question, and I accept that answer with good grace.

[B]

Grace. Every decision I've taken has been about putting the country I love first. Yes.

[A]

That is why I will resign as leader of the Labour Party.

[B]

And here's President Trump.

[A]

I don't know anything. I see that he was, I guess, the mayor of a town. I hear he's extremely liberal. Extremely. So that means he probably won't open up the nurse. You know, I gave. I gave Keir Starmer some pretty good advice. I said, open up the North Sea. Go to Aberdeen, which was the hottest city in the whole. On the whole continent. It was the oil City. It was the oil of Europe and they closed everything. It was terrible. I saw it before my eyes and I couldn't believe it. The North Sea is loaded.

[B]

And here is the man himself.

[A]

Molly, what happens next? What do we know about a timetable for when exactly he steps down?

[B]

Right.

[A]

So while this was not a total surprise, what Labour leaders and what many people in the country were waiting to hear is what would actually be the process. And he did lay that out in his speech. So we have a little bit of a timeline. Nominations for his replacement so other labor leaders who could possibly take over that will open up July 9th. Then there are two options based on the British political system. So if there is only one candidate, Savannah, it will be an orderly transition. What British journalists are calling kind of a coronation. It will pass from Keir Starmer to the next person. And I know we're going to get to him. But Andy Burnham is the runaway favorite. He is the former mayor of Manchester. He just won a Parliament seat by a resounding margin on Friday.

[B]

I'm sorry, I thought I had a clip of him. Maybe it's this one.

[A]

UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer has announced that he'll resign just two years after winning a landslide election victory. He becomes the sixth British Prime Minister in a decade to quit an extraordinary level of churn in a country long known for political stability. In an emotional statement here in Downing Street, Starmer said he accepted that the Labour Party no longer thinks he's the right person to lead it. The party will now choose a new leader who will also become Prime Minister within weeks. Nominations open on the 9th of July. They close a week later and the new leader will be in office by September the first. It could also happen a lot quicker than that. The leading contender to replace Starmer is the ex Greater Manchester Mayor Andy Burnham, who last week won a special election for a seated Parliament. Where is the express purpose of coming to London to challenge Keir Starmer? There's enormous enthusiasm among Labour lawmakers for Burnham because they are desperate for a charismatic leader who can reverse the party's failing fortunes. The chances of Burnham, Him.

[B]

I'm sorry, I thought I had a recording of him. I don't have it for some reason.

[A]

I should mention something some. One analyst did on one of these. Sorry about foreign channels. About which. Which mirrors my commentary about McGovern and the 70s and Nixon, which was that the. The British Parliament and the British prime ministerships had gone extremely left wing in the 70s, resulting. I think it was in 78 when Margaret Thatcher Ended up the Iron lady, took over as a conservative and they ran. They ran the government fairly for years after that. And this is supposed to be another iteration of that lefty, which is leftist. These guys, the Labor Party is, you know, they're against freedom of speech, they're for pro immigration, open borders, all the same stuff that DSA is doing. And they're getting trounced. And this is going to end up with some Thatcherite type character eventually.

[B]

Civil war. Civil war.

[A]

Civil war. Never see these civil wars everyone talks about.

[B]

Ah, okay. When you get. When you get the. You get those guys from the north all mad, you know, they come down and they start marching the streets with their pitchforks and the shovels and the torches. Yeah.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

It's amazing how, you know, you hear Tommy Robinson. I hear people talking about Tommy Robinson.

[A]

Tommy Robinson. I heard one of his recent little presentations. He is quite good.

[B]

Yeah, he is a criminal.

[A]

He's a criminal, but he's really good.

[B]

He's a hater. He's far right.

[A]

He's a hater, but he's really good.

[B]

He's very good at what he does. Does. And he's been over here in Texas telling everybody the Muslims are going to kill us all.

[A]

No.

[B]

Yes. Oh, yeah.

[A]

Tommy Robinson was in Texas.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[A]

When was this?

[B]

I'd say maybe six weeks ago, two months ago. Oh, he was really.

[A]

Oh, he was on Laura to hear about.

[B]

He was on Lara Logan show. He was here. I could have gone over and said hi.

[A]

You should have gone over and said hi.

[B]

They didn't tell me. I just saw it come through on my feed like, oh, Tommy was here. Okay. Yeah. He was going to churches everywhere, riling everybody up. Muslims are going to get you. You got. You got maybe, maybe 18 months. 18 months. 18 months. Look at us.

[A]

18 months. Okay, let me write this down.

[B]

Yeah, that's what I said. Yes. And yes. For those of you wondering, Cecile the giraffe has been found. Cecile the giraffe is safe. We had a giraffe escape, but it wasn't really here. We have giraffes here in Fredericksburg, but that wasn't one of our giraffes. People think.

[A]

No, it's just the local ladies, right?

[B]

People here. Hill country. Oh, that must be where Adam is. Hill country's pretty big. Uvalde is hill country and that's a four and a half hour drive. So, yeah, was not here, but we do have giraffes. Rand Paul not letting up on. On Fauci.

[A]

We had two clear cut cases against him. Lying to Congress, which is a felony, but also destroying public records. We now have emails that he distributed to Francis Collins and others saying, hey, read this and then destroy it. That is against the law. You're not allowed to do that in the executive branch. It's clear. You know, his only argument is, oh, it wasn't about government and it clearly was and I think a jury would decide so I still would prosecute him.

[B]

And I went digging for some.

[A]

Yeah, good luck by the way, since we've already determined that this whole Covid because the MRNA and the stuff from Robert Malone and we played the clips and this is all a CIA deal and these CIA, you know, came up with MRNA and they started moderna. We know that it was done by the operation in Silicon Valley, one of the investment arms. And they can't admit they're wrong about it. They're behind the whole thing. They're behind the fact Fauci is never going to get prosecuted for anything because he was going along with it and he played ball and Rand Paul's going to get himself beat up by another neighbor if he keeps this up.

[B]

Here is the analysis, whether this is actually possible or not, considering the pardon that he received from President Biden.

[A]

Senator Paul was on our show last week and said Dr. Fauci's preemptive pardon from President Biden should be challenged in court. Take a listen to what he had to say. We've never had a pardon that's gone to court that was granted for an unspecified crime. So he's been pardoned for any crime he might have committed over a 10 year period. He's never been charged with a crime. So how do you pardon someone in advance of a charge and for any crime they might be charged with over a 10 year period? So I think, I think a court could look at this and say that's way too broad. If you didn't specifically pardon him for something, he's not pardoned. So I think it should be challenged in court and I think it's worthwhile. But he's guilty of several felonies. He's guilty of lying to Congress on gain of function, but he's also guilty of destroying records.

[B]

That one's an open shut case.

[A]

So Jonathan, from a legal standpoint, Senator Paul, I mean, he has a bit of a point there. There was no crime to be pardoned at the time. How strong is that argument that a pardon this broad and unspecified could be challenged? Yeah, I think that he had a

[B]

number of good Points within there. Remember, the pardon only applies to federal offenses, not state offenses. So if any state offenses apply, that wouldn't cover them.

[A]

But I think the point is sort

[B]

of this overly broad question. I pardon you typically.

[A]

He's right. It doesn't have to be something that's

[B]

been charged or convicted, but it usually has to be specified as I'm pardoning you for this crime or this course of action. So I think that's a problem. The secondary problem is there's the auto

[A]

pen issue that we've all talked about,

[B]

but it's okay if it's signed by an auto pen. But the question is, did President Biden

[A]

knowingly and violent, Knowingly and intelligently sign

[B]

off or delegate this pardon?

[A]

So that's a secondary question as well. Well, but this is certainly a unique

[B]

situation to have such a broad pardon. I think what ultimately helps Fauci is the courts typically are going to give a lot of deference to the federal, to the executive branch on these types of things, particularly for pardons that are primarily. They are an executive function.

[A]

So even if the court doesn't believes it's too broad and believes it maybe not knowingly and voluntarily made, they still

[B]

may not want to weigh into it.

[A]

But my.

[B]

There's are certainly legitimate questions.

[A]

Can I get a. Here's a question for you. Blah, blah, blah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, here's a question for you.

[B]

All right.

[A]

They keep bringing this up. Yeah, he said the auto pan. We don't know that Biden, he knew what he was doing. But hey, news flash, Biden's still alive. Why don't somebody, why doesn't somebody go over and ask him specifically, hey, you know about this pardon? Did you know anything about it? Just show it to him and say, did you sign. What is this?

[B]

You mean like from the news media or.

[A]

I don't care. News media, Congress, one of Rand Paul's secretaries, anybody they keep talking about. We don't know that Biden even knew he was signing a thing for Fauci. The guy's still alive. Go ask him.

[B]

Well, it's not, it's not a bad idea, but that would, that would kind of ruin the fun of doing a podcast where you can.

[A]

Oh, no, it's that one particular topic.

[B]

You can speculate and.

[A]

Yeah, speculate and shoot this. Blah, blah, blah.

[B]

Get a close up with my cans on my head. Yeah, that's what you do.

[A]

You need those scans on your head.

[B]

So the ufo, UAP thing is falling apart. That's just not going nowhere.

[A]

Well, that's because the movie's over. The movie came out. It's a dud.

[B]

It's a dud.

[A]

Nobody likes it.

[B]

It didn't happen. And now this was NBC. So they caught up with the people who supposedly from the New York Times are responsible for the modern disclosure movement.

[A]

What?

[B]

Yeah, exactly. And here's an interview on NBC with him. This. This whole thing. And even when you hear them, you're like, what? These people started this?

[A]

I can tell you we do know exactly where this whole modern day disclosure push started. It traces back to a very specific New York Times story. You might have read it, where a reporter met two national security and Pentagon insiders ready to blow the whistle of the on secret programs the government had on UFOs. And guess what? We caught up with the three of them today in Congress. And this Pandora's box that we now see, this UAP disclosure push, it all started with the three of you, right? I would say it started with the two of them, and then they came to me. I would say it started with this guy. I had nothing to do with it. There's your answer. Was there like a secret bench or was there a handoff? We met in a hotel lobby. Well, it wasn't, but they had a sort of large lobby area that you could go off and be private. And it's like almost like a little restaurant, big space. I remember. I mean, am I allowed to say that you were. You were frightened because you were going out? That's putting it first.

[B]

That's putting in mind these people sound like morons. These are the people who started this. Are you serious?

[A]

So a New York Times reporter found two of these people.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

And started shooting the crap with them and then ended up with the story that started the whole thing, is what we're being told. And the whole thing was. I don't know. The whole thing is. I don't know. Yeah, we were having lunch and I said, I think we got some UFO docs somewhere. I don't know.

[B]

Here's a couple helpful. More clips.

[A]

Do you anticipate the release of some higher fidelity video that could completely put this issue to bed? So, first of all, it's not up to me, but I will tell you there are efforts behind the scenes to do exactly that. That decision is not mine, but I think if you were to ask Chris or Leslie or myself, you know, there are efforts underway right now to try and compel some of these organizations to strip the metadata of some of these videos and provide them to the American people. So the American people can see exactly what some of us have already been exposed to in the past. The more sophisticated or the more compelling from our terms the video is, the harder it is to get it declassified.

[B]

I'm not sure what this strip, the metadata, has to do with it. It's very odd.

[A]

Like, this is another thing that came up with the Nancy Guthrie bullcrap where these guys are trying to extract a bitcoin. They said, well, TMZ says to the guy, well, send us at least some pictures or something. And the guy says, no, because the metadata will make it so I'm identifiable. Well, the metadata is on there already. If they're going to give away this phone that was buried somewhere. Yeah, metadata. You can get rid of metadata. Almost any photo editor will take the metadata out.

[B]

Right, but why. Why does. Why does NASA or the Pentagon have to take away the metadata? I don't understand.

[A]

Yeah, well, that's the other thing. What difference does it make?

[B]

And here's the last.

[A]

It's usually just telling you what camera it was.

[B]

Well, speaking of photos, a month ago,

[A]

during the second tranche release, there were multiple files and videos released by NASA itself, where they have pictures taken from the surface of the moon during the Apollo mission, where they have taken pictures, photographs of some sort of anomalous activity above the surface of the moon. Now, what did NASA say following that release? They said, it is quite possible that what we are seeing here are actual things. These are not lens flare or anything like that. And keep in mind, if you look at that contextually, to what we had orbiting the moon at that time, we had one thing on them, and that was, I was a lunar orbiter waiting to rendezvous with the lunar lander. There were no satellites orbiting the moon back then. So if we now have photographs, we now have audio tapes of astronauts having conversations about something. The real question is, what else do we have?

[B]

Nothing. There's nothing. It was never anything. It's nothing. And everyone's disappointed. No one more disappointed than Sean Ryan. What do you think of Sean Ryan? I'm not quite sure what I think of this guy.

[A]

I'm not even sure who he is.

[B]

He's this.

[A]

Do I know Sean Ryan? And your name rings a bell?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Is he a podcaster?

[B]

Yes, he's a podcaster.

[A]

Does he wear cans?

[B]

No, interestingly. They don't. No. He has, like, a lounge, like a man cave, and there's two big leather seats, and he's. He's bald. And he's supposedly a CIA consultant, you know, military. One of these guys and so he's. And sometimes there's like six hour podcasts, which is too long.

[A]

Oh, God. Yeah.

[B]

So he has physicist Brian Keating on. And Sean Ryan has had it with this. He's had it. He can't. But this is nothing. This is all bullcrap.

[A]

What do you think about all this alien stuff? You know, it's either the most exciting

[B]

time to be alive or it's going

[A]

to be the most depressing time to be alive. You know, it's like imagine you keep

[B]

asking a girl out, yeah, soon, soon

[A]

I'll disclose my intentions to you. And you're just kind of waiting in the wings and you keep hearing things are going to happen, it's going to

[B]

come out, finally, we're going to know the truth.

[A]

And the whole community is thinking about

[B]

things and is excited about things. And then, and I'm sorry to say, I'm just been completely underwhelmed.

[A]

This last release by President Trump and

[B]

Department of War, Pete Hegsell.

[A]

I tore through that like a kid

[B]

on, you know, Christmas morning or as soon as it came out.

[A]

What'd you find?

[B]

I found, you know, really, it's a nice round number.

[A]

I found like zero. I found zero. That really interested me. And worse than that, I found things that were, you know, your background is you're used to dealing with kind of like psyops. And a good friend, my friend Chad

[B]

Hash, he was, he was. Everybody is into psyops, by the way, there's so many people on podcast now. Yes, I taught everyone how to do psyops. This is my job in the army is. My dad did the CIA. I taught psyops and I'm here on your podcast in the psyops. He was in U.S. army, served in IRA.

[A]

You know, they have exposure to things, right? They're gonna, they're gonna prime me for certain things. I call these Psyops Ops. S, C, I Ops.

[B]

Because it sounds so outlandish, outrageous.

[A]

It titillates the mind, especially if you're a nerd like me. I want to know about extra dimensional beings. I want to know about non humanoid biologics and all.

[B]

I get to hear from people I respect. Some people I've talked to.

[A]

I've got the square root of your

[B]

podcast, but I talk to people you've had the opportunity and honor to talk to to. And it's always hyperventilating because he's on a podcast. He's a physicist. Like, trust me, bro, or I heard

[A]

or somebody said this and I can't say that. And in the military. I completely understand it. I understand you've seen things, you've done things. You're not going to be able to talk about things. Oh, yeah, you're a scientist.

[B]

And, and, and you go on a

[A]

show like my friend, you know, Stephen

[B]

Bartlett show, and you get 10 million views, and one night you say, well, I heard. Heard from somebody who heard from somebody,

[A]

and you're a physicist.

[B]

Like this, you know, people that have come on recently on his show, it

[A]

frustrates me because that's not the way science works.

[B]

This is exactly what's going on on the podcast, everyone. Oh, I'm a physicist, but I'm on a big podcast. Oh, I got to go. And Joe ROGAN Talk about UFOs. And finally, finally, Sean Ryan is figuring out that this is bull crap. But he has the wrong angle.

[A]

I used to think there was something to this alien shit. I really did. No, I don't.

[B]

You know, I just don't.

[A]

You know, I've interviewed so many people about this, and I'm not talking about Avi Loeb or. But you know, the thing is, is one thing that one red flag to me, he's got all these, all these people out there that are screaming, disclosure. We want disclosure. They're demanding it. But none of them are really working together.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

You know, and so, you know, behind closed doors, off camera, they're all talking about each other. Exactly.

[B]

It's like, it's like, oh, you want

[A]

disclosure, but only if you're the one that disclose it. Right? You don't want to work with anybody else all the time.

[B]

Say what?

[A]

You just swear constantly.

[B]

Yeah, well, that's another. But you got to do that on your podcast, otherwise, you know, because if you don't have cans, you might as well be swearing.

[A]

You know, figure this out. You.

[B]

You just. You want to be. That makes them the guy.

[A]

That's what it is. And yeah, it's.

[B]

So that's like one thing. Another thing is I find the timing very odd. Here we go. Of all this shit. I mean, now we know that. We know why the timing of this was right.

[A]

Yeah, the Spielberg promote the movie.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

We've been talking about this for. We've been doing the show almost 19 years. We've been talking about this for 19 years. We've seen it over and over and over.

[B]

It's always in conjunction with a movie. There's always Hollywood entertainment product that comes with these stories. But that's not the Sean Ryan conclusion.

[A]

You know, the, the latest batch of the Alien conspiracy thing is, you know, stopped right at the height of the Epstein stuff in the Iran war. Whether you're war against or whatever, it's very unpopular, you know what I mean? And so it's like, give them a billions, you know what I mean?

[B]

That's.

[A]

That's how I think about it now. I'm just like this, of course you

[B]

drop it right now.

[A]

Exactly. And so it's. I think the timing alone is discrediting.

[B]

Yeah, because it's about a movie, Sean is. It's not about. Oh, oh, Epstein files. Give him aliens. Okay, that's. I mean, that's a. That's what CIA has developed in our country. These are the people who did Covid.

[A]

Yeah, well, it's hard to think. Like I said, they don't ever admit they're wrong. Let's talk about Ebola. Get these clips out of the way. Ebola's still going on. They haven't done anything about it. Well, why not? And they finally found out why. Today I'm joined by NPR Global Health. Wait, you're gonna have to. Okay, the problem. I have. I have two problems here. One, it says npr. One, and there's just npr. Yeah. Which one are you going to play?

[B]

The one that just says npr.

[A]

Right.

[B]

How long have we been working together?

[A]

I just was fearful. And today I'm joined by NPR Global Health.

[B]

And by the way, Ebola spelled E, dollar sign, B, O L, A. For what reason? I don't know.

[A]

Today I'm joined by NPR Global health reporter Jonathan Lambert. Hey, John. Hey, Gina. Hey, John. Hey, Gina. So you're here today to talk about the ongoing Ebola outbreak. Yeah, it's been just about the only thing I've covered over the past month and a half or so. The outbreak has gotten really big, really fast. It's already the third largest Ebola outbreak on record.

[B]

That's terrible. So with the sincerity.

[A]

Stop the presses.

[B]

The sincerity is great.

[A]

This is. Besides sounding so scripted and corny. This is their science podcast, the NPR's. This is their science. This is a high end.

[B]

That's great.

[A]

High end science. That's terrible.

[B]

Besides it being like really terrible and stuff fast. It's really terrible.

[A]

Third largest Ebola outbreak on record. That's terrible.

[B]

So. That's terrible. Oh, this is fantastic. This is. This is. You know what? Right off the bat, I think you actually. I think you actually deserve a borderline for this.

[A]

It's just so good.

[B]

Even though you. You doctored it with some editing. You doctored it, but still, it's Worth it.

[A]

I didn't take anything away from it.

[B]

No, you didn't take anything away.

[A]

That's terrible. So where did the numbers stand right now? As of now, there are over a thousand confirmed cases and over 250 confirmed deaths, but the toll is likely much higher. Why is that? Well, many. Why is that?

[B]

What? What? A bowl of kids kills people. What? Why is that higher?

[A]

Why is that? Well, many cases and deaths are probably going uncounted. The outbreak is centered in a region of the Democratic Republic of Congo that's really remote and battered by a lot of ongoing conflict. I see how that could make responding to the outbreak.

[B]

Is this an AI podcast? This sounds like. This sounds like one of those Notebook LM things. That's terrible. I mean, it might as well be.

[A]

I know it's terrible. I'm not going to argue the point of ongoing conflict. How that could make responding to the outbreak a lot harder.

[B]

No. What has happened here? I think something else is going on that we have stumbled onto. These people are talking to their chatbot all day long. They're starting to talk like the chatbot.

[A]

Mm.

[B]

Yes. Terrible. I can see where that would be really bad.

[A]

You might be right.

[B]

There's something going on here.

[A]

Ongoing conflict. I see how that could make responding to the outbreak a lot harder. Yeah. And the virus got a head start. It was likely circulating for months before officials realized that it was. That's made it.

[B]

Come on.

[A]

Come on.

[B]

This is like, I am going to make an Ebola podcast with AI and the female voice will literally do that.

[A]

Oof.

[B]

Mm. Yeah, I see what you mean. Ah, yeah.

[A]

Officials realized that it was. That's made it harder to rein in, which is really worrisome for a disease that, on average, kills about half the people it infects. So do scientists have a sense of how bad it could get?

[B]

Oh, music.

[A]

Well, the CDC projects that in the absence of robust control measures, as many as 20,000 people could be sick by August. If it continues at that pace, it could rival the 2014-2016 Ebola outbreak in West Africa, which killed over 11,000 people. And there are concerns that it could spread more widely in the region. So today on the show, how this became one of the largest Ebola outbreaks in history. And what has to happen happen to treat patients and get it under control.

[B]

Wow. We'll spruce it up a little bit with some of our own bits here.

[A]

Okay. So they get back and they get into the groove here. Of course, you can guess who they blame. Trump for the whole thing.

[B]

Trump World Health Organization. We pulled out Trump.

[A]

You got it right the first time, don't. You don't have to go any further, further. But let's go with the NPR One clip.

[B]

Although something I said, I was telling Tina last night in bed, I was saying, you know, the friend of mine, his, he went to have his heart checked out and. And he asked him kind of on the, you know, like, hey, have you seen more people with heart issues ever since COVID and the vaccine? And the. The cardiologist goes, oh, yeah, absolutely. It's a lot more. And he said, is that because of. But it's not because of the vaccine. It's not because of the vaccine. And Tina says, what was it? Climate change. I mean, my wife is good. She could do this podcast. She could inherit it with our daughters.

[A]

Yeah. And today I'm joined by NPR global health reporter Jonathan Lambert. Hey, Jonathan. Hey, John. So you're here today to talk about the ongoing Ebola outbreak.

[B]

Wait, is this. Is this a different one? Yeah, sounds exactly the same.

[A]

This is.

[B]

This is the exact same clip, John.

[A]

Oh, is it? Okay.

[B]

Oh, brother.

[A]

Sorry. Okay, go to clip three.

[B]

Well, what is number two?

[A]

Well, the number two is gone. We're going to number three, because this is where they start to. They attribute blame. They attribute blame, and it's going to go right to where everyone thinks this is so much propaganda, it's sickening.

[B]

But you need to say SOT3. SOT3.

[A]

What?

[B]

That's what Megyn Kelly are. It's sound on tape. SOT. You know, SOT3. You have to cue me.

[A]

SOT3. Countries like DRC that experience a lot of Ebola outbreaks have really beefed up their surveillance systems. For instance, they've built up lab infrastructure so they can test samples that might be from Ebola patients. US Foreign aid really helped build up those systems, and in recent years, it's helped outbreaks get declared relatively early on. Okay, so usually they're caught pretty early. But you're saying that didn't happen for this current situation? No. So when the outbreak was declared on May 15, that initial death toll had already reached 65. I track outbreaks like these pretty closely, and when I saw that announcement, I had this, like, moment of panic that I'd somehow missed earlier reports because the numbers just seemed too big for a new outbreak.

[B]

Oh, wow. Oh, w. Oh, wow.

[A]

Now, health officials suspect the outbreak wasn't new then, and it likely started months ago, perhaps as early as February. So why was there a delay in declaring it? A few reasons. Like I said it's a tough region to work in because it's remote and there's conflict. And the species of Ebola that's spreading is a rarer one. It's called Bundibugio. And there were only two other outbreaks of it in 2007 and 2012. Genetically, it's like 30% different than the more common species. Unfortunately, that means that the tests that DRC typically uses can't detect it. So cases that seemed like Ebola kept turning up negative. Oh. So how did they eventually tell it was Ebola? Health officials shipped samples to a bigger Lab in Kinshasa, DRC's capital, where they did more sophisticated tests. But even that process was delayed. Early samples weren't shipped properly, and there were delays in those shipments.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Yeah. And these outbreak surveillance activities are the kind of thing that used to be heavily supported by US Foreigners, aid, including by usaid. There it is.

[B]

Very good. And there's more. But wait, there's more?

[A]

Well, no. Well, they have to spike the ball. It's not just you. We're going to talk about usaid. Let's make sure we. We focus a little bit more. And after the Trump administration's massive cuts last year, I'm sure it was affected. Yeah, a lot of it is gone. The State Department has said that it's false to claim that those cuts impacted the Ebola response, but I've spoken with a lot of global health experts who think it contributed. Yep.

[B]

Oh, man.

[A]

It's our fault.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

It's your fault. It's Trump's fault that the Ebola thing broke out.

[B]

That's right. It's so obvious.

[A]

And let's boil it down. It's Musk's fault. He needs to be taxed.

[B]

Take away half his company. Yes. Well, I might as well do my data center to desktop segment here as the AI trade continues to look more and more like it's just not going to be quite as valuable as everybody thought it was. We go to. This is. Well, this is actually what's his face from the all in pod. But either way, I, I profoundly believe

[A]

the future is composable models and you

[B]

are going to every enterprise.

[A]

You're going to have what Andrej Karpathy called a council of LLMs. You're going to have, you know, you're going to have Grok, you're going to have Anthropic, you're going to have OpenAI.

[B]

Google.

[A]

You're going to have at least two of those. I would argue Groq should always be one of the two because of its dedication to the truth. And it will tell you as a business owner a politically inconvenient truth that you need to know for your data. But you're also going to have your own open weights model that you are led on your data and you're going to put those two together, the frontier models in your own model and you are going to get you know, real Pareto dominant outcomes and you know, half

[B]

the queries are going to be go to the open source model maybe 85%

[A]

and only the hardest ones are then

[B]

maybe they all go to open source

[A]

first and only the hardest ones are then checked by the frontier models.

[B]

So I think, and this by the way is Gavin Baker I think was a early Investor in and SpaceX and all the AI stuff.

[A]

This is the future, it's coming. And a misconception that a lot of people have is that open source models are somehow bad for AI. They're awesome for the AI infrastructure providers.

[B]

They just shift economic value from the

[A]

margins of the frontier labs to the infrastructure and that's not bad for AI. That's great for the them.

[B]

It's great for them.

[A]

But I do think there's still a role for these frontier models and it may be true. To date frontier tokens are capturing 90% of the economic value and open source tokens are probably 80% plus of tokens processed. And those ratios may be here to stay.

[B]

But I just think composable models are the future. There you go. Frontier tokens versus composable models. We have more buzzwords.

[A]

Yeah, it's ridiculous.

[B]

I've been burning a lot of frontier tokens lately.

[A]

Have you now?

[B]

The frontier token is just as crazy. And then CNBC identifies the didn't we have. Yes, the token maximization burn is a problem.

[A]

Welcome back. OpenAI and Anthropic have commanded premium AI pricing.

[B]

Is that a vantage fading ahead of their public debuts?

[A]

Our Kate Rooney has that story. Hey Kate. Hi Leslie. So OpenAI and Anthropic have seen this eye popping revenue growth during what has been just a spend at all cost attitude in corporate America. Experts tell me that may be why these giants are both racing towards public markets to sell that growth while these numbers still at this point look that good. So both have filed confidentially Anthropic, when you look at the revenue it was a $447 billion run rate that was up 4x from last year. Open Eyes run rate when you look at revenue it's roughly doubled from a year ago. Analysts and investors I've been talking to tell me the growth rates for Anthropic and OpenAI are what they expect to be the fastest they're ever going to be. That is one good reason to go public. Now, the concern is that some of their largest enterprise customers are starting to rein in token spending and overall AI spend. And while that's expected to. To continue, folks are going to spend it. But one person told me what is absolutely hitting a peak, at least according to Darren Kamara. He's the CEO of AI Squared. He says the peak here is using the most expensive models for simpler tasks within organizations. As he put it, employees don't need these powerful models on the market to write emails. So the pressure, it's coming from all sides here.

[B]

So it should be. I hear OpenAI has delayed their IPO. Now that's. That's a bad sign for them. Oh, that's a bad sign. That's. That's a bad sign. That's not good. And I saw when you tell HOROWITZ On Tuesday, DH unplugged everybody. Tuesdays, 9pm Eastern. They go live, the show's out. They put. Does he put it out the same night as it Wednesday morning?

[A]

No, no, he puts it out much faster than you do.

[B]

Oh, well, the show is a third of the length and it's scripted.

[A]

We don't to get sensitive about it.

[B]

No, jeez, you're right.

[A]

It's kind of an offhand compliment that you get it out so fast. I don't want.

[B]

I don't even know why I responded that way. I apologize.

[A]

Very sensitive.

[B]

I am just so sensitive. So he posts an interview with some guy on X and I saw it. He's like, oh yeah, you know, the best thing for the AI trade now is invest in people who have big battery storage. I'm like, what? So, yeah, because at peak hours, the AI is going to switch to battery power.

[A]

That was you. Was that on a disciplined investor? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like what?

[B]

Like, okay, for what, 45 minutes? How long is that gonna last? This is hilarious. That's too funny. Let me see. What. There was something, it was actually something kind of concerning. You know, I'd be seeing a lot of those, those videos of people finding tick boxes. Have you seen the tick box?

[A]

Oh, the tick box.

[B]

Yeah, the tick boxes. And there's these boxes that are just out in the wild and they're just teething, seething with. With ticks. Ticks. And this is from the Farm Journal. And I, you know, I'm with Texas Slim, that, you know, this is a, a targeted operation.

[A]

Another op.

[B]

Well, it's against the American ranchers. And the op is by the big meat packers. There's only three of them. I think maybe four.

[A]

Three.

[B]

They're mainly foreign owned and they just want to bring crap cows up from South America and they want to continue doing that because there's drugs being smuggled and probably people being smuggled along with these cattle transports. I don't know if they put the drugs in the cow, but there's, there's clearly a correlation between cartels and cows. The cow cartel. And this was on the Farm Journal.

[A]

Well, Travis, thanks for joining us today. On June 9, you posted some photos of your cattle just covered in ticks. And they're quite devastating. So can you tell us what happened to these animals and when the last time was that you checked them after seeing this?

[B]

So that was on, on Saturday. We were, we were in the hay and right beside these cattle. Walk through them. The one I posted a picture of was a. She was broke to show she was a showcase. So I actually laid hands on her in the pasture field Tuesday. The guy leased this farm from called and he says you have a heifer laying out here. So we came out here and that's how we found her, just covered in ticks.

[A]

And.

[B]

And Monday, driving through her, you couldn't see any on her. And Saturday I actually laid hands on her and never saw a tick or anything. And we did have them tested and it was the Asian longhorn tick on every farm. Every tick we got was that species.

[A]

Have you ever seen ticks like this before? Your pictures are unbelievable. Never.

[B]

My dad said they had them 30 or 40 years ago. We were in the dairy business and had them pretty bad one year, but nothing. And nothing like that. It's still bad. I'm like you. You can walk to the gate to open the gate out of the side beside and you'll have five or six

[A]

crawling up your pant leg.

[B]

That's not good. I don't know. This feels like something nefarious is going on and we don't hear anything about the screwworm anymore. Screwworm just came and went.

[A]

Yeah, I don't know. Very suspicious.

[B]

Well, we got ranchers out there. They'll let us know what they think we got. We have the best producers in after all the tps. Big win. Or as the headlines go, Supreme Court hands Donald Trump a big win, hands him a big win. And this is the temporary protective status which we've been talking about for the Length of this show, probably ever since the Haitian earthquake. And it's kind of interesting because didn't. Didn't Obama and Clinton and Bush, didn't they raise hundreds of billions of dollars for Haiti?

[A]

Yeah. And don't send your blankets or your water, just send your cash.

[B]

Yeah. And. But somehow the Haitians who, as you know, are eating.

[A]

They never got any of it.

[B]

They're eating the dogs.

[A]

Well, yeah, I got definitely the Haitians are being kicked out of the country, too. You have a clip on that?

[B]

I have a Tom Homan a short clip about the immigration, the TPS decision that the US Supreme Court just six

[A]

three about they can allow. So the president has the constitutional authority to make it temporary and not permanent. It's the right call. You know, I've been doing this since 1984. TPS has never been temporary. That's why the whole statute exists. Temporarily give people protection while the country's in turmoil or after they suffer a hurricane. But the problem is no administration have had the guts to actually follow that statute. President Trump has the guts to follow the law. So temporary means temporary. When the condition in that country gets

[B]

better, they need to go home.

[A]

You know, there are millions of people stand in line, one to be part of the greatest nation on earth. And that goes back to my early point. People said, why do you arrest them if they're not criminals? Been here 10 years because they cheated the system. They may have been here 10 years. Let's remember, when you enter the country legally, it's a crime. And they're doing that, putting themselves in front of the line while millions of people are taking their tests, doing their background investigation, paying their fees to be part of the greatest nation on earth. So temporary means temporary. And I'm grateful for that decision. Decision. I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water. Just send your cash.

[B]

Yep, just send your cash now. They got a lot of cash. And then didn't they build one hotel, the Bill Clinton Hotel and a couple

[A]

of homes on the other side of the island?

[B]

Sean Penn. Sean Penn built a couple of homes. And then they had the. The island where the cruise ships rolled up and there was like a hooker's paradise.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then Clinton, was it Clinton's brother who got the gold rights in Haiti. And then there was. I forgot about smuggling out kids. The whole thing was tawdry. Yes. I was going to say sketchy, but tawdry is a better word. And so now it's time to go. And, you know, of course, now is the problem.

[A]

Well, in npr, all they did was moan about this and they said, well, these poor people, they, they, they're locked into the community. They've been here for some over a decade and they got jobs and family and it's a shame. And I more. I was thinking about, yeah, you. What Tolman indicated was, yeah, you do temporary thing and you never ship them back. That's been the strategy. We just don't ship them back ever.

[B]

No. In fact, we ship them in and we ship them to specific locations where factories need to burn.

[A]

Yeah. So they can vote Democrat and they

[B]

can eat the pan. Pets.

[A]

Dogs.

[B]

I still think Trump won on that line.

[A]

He did. You're eating the dogs.

[B]

Oh, no, no. Let's.

[A]

Let's get the.

[B]

Let's get it good. Let's get the. Hold on. Where is it? Here we go.

[A]

They're eating the dogs.

[B]

Oh, man. So good.

[A]

In context, it's even funnier because, you know, Kamala was on some sort of a roll and he interrupted her with that line.

[B]

Here's the.

[A]

Out of the blue, here's the full line in Springfield. They're eating the dogs. The people that came in, they're eating the cats. They're eating. They're eating the pets of the people that live there. And this is what's happening in our country. And it's a shame. It's a shame. Yeah, it's a shame. It's a shame.

[B]

It's a shame.

[A]

That's the line of the. It's a shame that they're eating the dogs.

[B]

All right, what else you got? You want to roll one more out here?

[A]

Well, I've got a couple of things,

[B]

but if a lot of interesting things you got airline organization crashes.

[A]

Yeah, this is good. Let's play that airline organization crashes thing. This is something fishy about this. The most recent close call happened this weekend. Confusion as a Delta flight aborted its landing in Boston after a cockpit collision alert warned that an American jet was just 3, 300ft away on an intersecting Runway. Delta 32351 going around America. 3161.

[B]

Where you going?

[A]

You cleared it for takeoff. 3161. Today, a stunning revelation from the organization that represents the nation's airlines. There are many more, thousands of more of near misses than are probably out there in the public. And that, you know, get, get the headlines. There are hundreds of them every single day, but only a fraction make the news. The FAA says most reported incidents are not close calls and that Runway incursion rates have decreased more than 10% since last year. In April, the FAA says two Southwest planes came within 500ft of each other over Nashville. And a close call between two regional jets at New York's JFK Airport. You fly to the approach course running three, one left. Correct. Immediately blue coat 4464. And following horrific crashes in Washington, Louisville and New York. This has been a year when we've had many, many serious close calls. The pilots union and NTSB want Congress to require all planes to have precise GPS based air traffic receivers that show surrounding air traffic, something the American Airlines crew did not have in the fatal midair crash over Washington. If we don't have a deadline, it'll never happen. While the Senate wants to set a deadline, the House has declined, concerned that it would create an excessive burd on airlines and aircraft owners.

[B]

Well, a couple things about this. First of all, we have more air traffic controllers than anybody any podcast anywhere. And I'm a little, just a, just. I have a twinge of disappointment that no one has contacted me with their opinion on this. I think a couple of things happen within the particular case of the. The crossed runways. This is not abnormal, this type of clearance. You have a one on final, which was kind of short, final. And you have one taking off. That's not abnormal. Two things though. The controller did not say clear for departure immediately or make it fast. There's a whole bunch of things you hear from air traffic control which means go now and move in. There's a whole bunch of ways they say it that didn't happen. And it still took about 30 to 40 seconds before the American airline took off. But then there's also, from what I understand, all these major airports have the Runway light incursion system. That's probably not what it's called. And it's automatic. It's not something ATC flips on. So if there's an aircraft incoming or that is about to cross the Runway, red lights light up all across the Runway. We don't know if that worked or not. Not. Or if it was ignored. So that's a safety measure that was put in specifically for this. But ultimately it's all about military contractors with the next gen aviation system. That's what everybody wants.

[A]

Where is that anyway?

[B]

That's what they want. They want more. More gear.

[A]

More gear. New gear.

[B]

New gear. More gear. Yeah, that's probably.

[A]

Of course. And that's what you do. That's what you do.

[B]

Just say a prayer for your air traffic controllers because they do a great job and for your pilots and you know What? Shit happens.

[A]

33,000 flights a day over the United States.

[B]

Exactly, exactly.

[A]

It's a lot.

[B]

The most dangerous part of flying is driving to the airport. That's just the truth.

[A]

It reminds me of one of my. We have these stories called Phyllis stories. It's my mom.

[B]

Oh, she always says, you've said stories that your mom would tell us. I didn't. Never knew her name was Phyllis.

[A]

Yeah, Phyllis. So we had these Phyllis stories.

[B]

Wait, the most legendary Phyllis story is that the Chinese are stealing our toilet paper.

[A]

Oh, yeah, the toilet paper story. But she has this one too. This is another classic. There's also the brown chicken eggs, but Phyllis stories. So this story. So I'm going on some trip. And it's just the classic response to anything I ever said to her. She says, why are you going on a trip? I said, I'm going to Europe. She said, oh, it's so unsafe. It's so unsafe to fly. Fly. I said, mom, there's 33, 000 flights a day every day. How unsafe could it be? She says, oh, my. No wonder that there's so much air pollution. It's just like. Without missing a beat.

[B]

That's so that's where you get it from. Now I understand it's all Phyllis. Phyllis. It's the Phyllis DNA that's running through your veins. That's what's going on there. And with that, I want to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the C's in the. What do we have? Where was it?

[A]

The Cow Cart.

[B]

Cow Cartel.

[A]

No. Cow Cartel. Cartel.

[B]

Everybody say hello to my friend on the other end. The one, the only, Mr. Johnson.

[A]

Subs in the water, the dames and knights out there in the morning to

[B]

the trolls in the troll room. What do we have here? 1563. There you go. Over 51 and a half thousand people listening live to this. To this podcast. Top that, Sean Rock Ryan. We do it live, baby. That's. With no editing. We also won't do it six hours. Well, we've done six hours once.

[A]

7.5.

[B]

Was that it on the 1000th anniversary? Was it? Was it episode 1000? Was that when we did that?

[A]

It was 10th anniversary.

[B]

Oh, 10th anniversary. Well, okay. 19 will be such a disappointment. Just 19 years. Not even 20. I gotta make it to 20 at least.

[A]

I read the. Before we start getting into any of this, I want to make an announcement. There's no more Red Knights available.

[B]

What? How about the guy that just emailed today? Did he get in.

[A]

That's the last one. That guy, he got in.

[B]

Oh, okay. Because I saw that. I'm like, oh, no.

[A]

The guy, he took the rest of them.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

Oh, he's coming in with a rubble. This will be on this Thursday show. He's coming in with a rubbleizer donation. He's gonna scarf up the end of the thing.

[B]

Oh, so they're done. They're scarf. They're out. He came in and got them for his family.

[A]

Yeah. J did a double count today, and we're. We're done.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

All right.

[A]

I mean, but maybe by popular demand, we'd make some more, but it has to. Nah, I don't. Probably not.

[B]

You're healed. I mean, let's be honest about it.

[A]

It's.

[B]

It's done. You're back. We saved you. We gave you a reason to live. You're here. You're here.

[A]

Had a reason to live. No agenda.

[B]

Hey, hey. What are you knocking this? Come on, man. Yes.

[A]

It's like. It's like slave labor forced to do this show. Wake up. Get up. Get back to the show.

[B]

That's exactly what Mimi was saying.

[A]

And Mimi, the whole. The public. We have to do this show or else.

[B]

The funniest was your family not concerned at all. No, we just got to give him a reason to live. Let's show him the cash. Oh, that's right. We. We laugh a lot on this show, that's for sure. People who are listening live, they're using one of those modern podcast apps. Get one now today. What are you waiting for? Stop using legacy stuff. It's really not worth it. You can listen to us live when we go live. If not, don't worry about it. Within 90 seconds of publishing, you'll get a notification on the modern podcast app. Podcast apps.com. so we're value for value, which is kind of interesting how we have a lot of recurring value for value donors. We got to talk about Manuka Gold, though. They got to slow down a bit on the. On their. On their notes. Have you noticed this? Hello.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, I didn't look at today's.

[B]

Oh, no, you'll see it. So the beauty of value for value is that we give you the show. We're not forcing you to subscribe bribe to anything. We're not taking. We're not taking money out of your bank account every single month unless you want us to, but we just want you to return the value whenever you feel that you've received value from the show. It could just be a laugh it could be a career opportunity. Could be something that made you feel smart around the water cooler. Are there still water coolers in businesses? I don't even know anymore. I don't know people.

[A]

Just probably not once in a while you'll see one.

[B]

Yeah, well, where do people hang out? Do they even hang out anymore? Is this part of the loneliness epidemic?

[A]

They're on there looking at their phones. Is not. And the loneliness epidemic. Did Pastor Jimmy bring up Satan's Tool?

[B]

It was Pastor Brian.

[A]

Oh, Brian. One of the Brian's. One of the four Brian's. He come up there?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Did he hold. Was he holding up Satan's tool, the antichrist that called a smartphone and blamed the whole thing on that? Because that's the real issue.

[B]

He actually did.

[A]

Well, good for him.

[B]

But it was an iPad. But he did and he.

[A]

An iPad.

[B]

Yeah. Well, he had to do it for effect because he needed to show.

[A]

Oh yeah, because he probably is on the phone all day like everyone else.

[B]

PB is a good guy. PB1, we got. Got a lot of PBs over there, so. Yes. Where was I? You've confused me. We are value for value, which means if you support the show, we will thank you. If it's above $50, we'll thank you on the show. If not, we. For reasons of anonymity, we don't do anything below $50. And there's a lot of people who sen. Amounts, which is all appreciated. Everybody should be sending some small amount at some point in time. Considering we have a lot of people listening, it would be nice if every. If everyone did it. We know that doesn't work. So Wikipedia, which is Wikimedia, someone sent me their. Their latest fund fundraising drive and they're about the same as us. They say, you know, of all the people who use wiki now, Wikipedia is no longer an outstanding product. Wikipedia sucks. They really ruined that product. But in their own value for value ask. They say about 2% of people who use Wikipedia support it and they're doing millions. They're doing millions.

[A]

Yeah. Because 2% of their usage is off to charge is hundreds of millions of people.

[B]

Yeah, they're doing quite well there. Or at least they're hanging it. And so we.

[A]

They're doing well. If there's.

[B]

Yeah, we have a. We have a promise that if you are able to Support us with $200 or more, not only will we give you an official Hollywood title and it's real because Hollywood you can go look at. Lots of Hollywood people have this. And these are the Hollywood people who soon will be special guests at your meetup. You get the associate executive producer title and we will read your note guaranteed, within reason. $300 or more. You get an executive producer credit and we will read your note within reason. So what a lot of people have done is they rece from the show and this usually is family business. You got Eli the coffee guy, Linda Lupatkin, and they'll have a little plug. You know, we're happy to read the plug, but there's a limit because it's a beautiful system. Is it really advertising? No, because we don't have any conversations, we don't set a rate, we don't have a rate card, we don't have a meeting card, we don't have a meeting. We don't have to provide statistics. And our CPM value value, which by the way, when you think about it, the whole fact that podcasting that people sell ads based on cpm, it can only be erased to the bottom when you insert ads at your pre roll. I mean, how. There's 4 million podcasts, it's going to be 5 million within a year with all the AI slopcasts that are going out there. And so there's just all this inventory that means it's only becoming less valuable.

[A]

Valuable. Yeah. Too much inventory.

[B]

Yeah, I mean it's unlimited inventory. How much podcast?

[A]

Infinite.

[B]

Infinite that. Thank you. It's infinite. So it's a, it's not a winning strategy and it's annoying. So we decided we'll just do it this way. And you know, I love the small businesses because they, they get as much a kick out of the no agenda community as we do because people send notes and they thank them for their product and they give them their testimonials. And so you'll see we have a couple of those today and, and some of them are really funny, but it just really. Manuka Gold really got me today. So first we start with you give

[A]

them enough plugs right now, you don't have to read their note.

[B]

No, I'm not going to be like that.

[A]

You're good. I wasn't really suggesting. I'm just saying I'm going to. It's not as though they don't get bang for their buck.

[B]

I'm going to scold them now. What is this? Is this meetup money that came in here at the top?

[A]

No, this is money. No, you, you just skip it. It is the. Okay, the old legacy account.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which was the old $5, $2, $1. There's old has been building up for about 10 years. Oh, nickel and dime. Nickel and dime. That's about five years worth. I had to move it over because I got to get. Move it over. I got you eventually.

[B]

Got to move it over.

[A]

Got to be moved over. So I moved it over for load balancing. Money.

[B]

Load balancing. Holy moly. All right. I love the load balancing. Okay, so I can just ignore that?

[A]

Yeah, just ignore that.

[B]

All right. So then we go to Brendan Flemmer. Am I saying that right? Am I on the right note here? I. I didn't even see this note initially, so I have some work to do here. He comes in with a thousand dol. Which is very much appreciated. And he says, ita.

[A]

No, no, no. You're David Rosa.

[B]

Oh, I'm sorry. I got the note first. Oh, David Rosa. I'm sorry.

[A]

There you go.

[B]

David Rosa comes in from Clarkson, Michigan. $1,000 plus fees. $1,030 and 26 cents. And he says, so glad that John, the patriarch of the Order of the Heart, is on the mend. He's done. He's good people. By the way, is there still progress being made on the rubbish challenge coins? Well, this is a question for you.

[A]

The answer.

[B]

We need the answer.

[A]

No, not yet. Well, soon. Now that we're completely done with the. With the heart donation, it's time to get to work.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Now talk to Paul about it. Paul. See, I wanted to make Paul do it because Paul, yeah, for some reason has a knack for certain kinds of designing challenge coins.

[B]

Yes, he does.

[A]

And he's. His challenge coin is still the best of the all. We had a lot of people doing challenge coins and designing them and every. But Paul's is. He's got a. I don't know what it is. It's just. It's just some sort of knack. That's all I could call it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

For doing this stuff. And I have to talk him into it because it's work for you. Him.

[B]

Oh, well, Paul, we'd love it. We'll love it if you could do that.

[A]

No, he doesn't listen to the show.

[B]

Really? He does the art Generator, but doesn't listen to the show.

[A]

I mean, people, they do that. All right, all right.

[B]

It happens. Yes. Okay, next you're up. This is a note.

[A]

Yeah, this is from a note. This is a Brendan. Brendan Flemmer in Bismarck, North Dakota. And he sent in. He's the one who sent in the thousand dollars. Very short note. Itm. I couldn't think of a witty night name that hasn't already been claimed. So I'm just going to go with my given name. Jingles. He does have some jingle requests.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Biden. Full load. Two to the head. Obama, you might die. A little story. This mini story. And then he has a roundtable request. Yes, of course. Of flesh Kalu. Flesh Flesh kalu.

[B]

Fresh kilu Flesh Kikloo.

[A]

Whatever that Corn bouche and corn boot.

[B]

Kombucha. Corn bucha. Kombucha.

[A]

There's corn here. No, it doesn't keep up the extraordinary. By the way, Kombucha. We talked about this. Very.

[B]

So it's dangerous.

[A]

It's. Something is dangerous. The best mycologist in the country. It's a witch's brew. No, they can't be duplicated. Nobody knows what's even in that mother. It's just a bunch of different animals living there.

[B]

You know, when you give us the vinegar book, we'll believe what you're saying.

[A]

Until then, I'm gonna. I'm just saying there's no evidence. I don't drink it.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Keep up the exemplary work. Soon, Sir Flemmer, I'm gonna give you the whole load today.

[B]

You might die. There you go. We move on to Knights John, who is from Tucson, Arizona. And he sends in $626.26. I don't see. Do I have this note?

[A]

Yeah, it's a note. It's the second note on that same page.

[B]

Oh. Well, could you read it? Because for some reason.

[A]

Okay, I see him. And John, this donation is 62626 is for my palindrome birthday on June 26th. We. We've been skipping these palindromes.

[B]

The whole week has been Palindrome weekday show, 1881.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

This is a great way to connect birthdays to donations to boot. I'll be six. Seven. Wow. As near as I can tell, most people can expect to get one of these in a lifetime. I'm sure the numerology nerds out there can do some predicting and forecast show donations on this basis. Cases. Yeah, they can. And the show donations are down. Maybe this will keep John smiling.

[B]

No.

[A]

Thank you for your courage, Knight John, Protector of the Pocket Protectors and keeper of his 15 grandchildren. Now there's a guy that does his work, Jingles F35 Karma and WTC7.

[B]

Okay, this is what I didn't have F35 Karma. And he wants WT. Well, I want to do WTC7 first because that. That's a. It's a better sequence.

[A]

You've Got karma.

[B]

I'll do the next two because I got Manuka Gold coming up too. 333 from. Let's see. This is from. Wait. No no. I'm sorry. I made a mistake. Manuka Gold comes first. I'm a mess today. I'm. I'm a mess.

[A]

You're a.

[B]

You're a mess. I'm a wreck. Here it is. Manuka gold. Hudson, Florida 3.33.33. You notice too long, Manuka. Hi, gentlemen. As always, the Manuka Gold family is thrilled to support the show. We've enjoyed all the fun ITM comments when you place your orders and it's nice to hear from all the like minded people on Thursdays. It's my fault. Adam noticed we changed the 20 off code to track what works. So we might as well make the code fun for all. All of us and solve a long standing debate in our family. Who do you think needs Manuka Gold's pain relief gel More Rocky after Apollo in Rocky 1 or Rambo or Rambo after the Russian got hold of him in Rambo 2? Cast your vote with your 20% off code checkout. Use either Rambo or Rocky. So you're pushing it, Manuka. Don't you think they're pushing. Am I wrong that they're pushing it here?

[A]

Well, belaboring is. The word I'd be using is yes. And I. And I don't think it's. The gag is not that funny.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

Did you know that Sylvester Stallone was banned from ever traveling to Russia because of that movie?

[B]

No. Is he still banned?

[A]

I think so.

[B]

Feel free to explain your vote in the order notes. If you don't need top quality Manuka Honey products this week, feel free to contact us through our email on manukagold.com and put in a vote. Oh, so you don't. No purchase necessary is what you're supposed to say. Everyone can play. We have our own opinions but we'll see if the majority agrees. Stay tuned. Yeah, see, you don't get to do your own segment. That's not how it works. And I was going to do a really nice testimonial from Tina but now I have to wait because you used up all your time with your Rambo versus Rocky. And we thank you so much for supporting us.

[A]

My IQ is huge.

[B]

All right.

[A]

You're gonna do the next one too. You said. No.

[B]

I.

[A]

No.

[B]

I'll do that. Fine. Hunt Diefenthaler Perns. What is this? Hans Difenthaler Perns. Boca Raton. Mouth of the rat 333.33. This is long overdue.

[A]

Please deduce me you've been de douched.

[B]

Hello. From the southernmost island in the Caribbean. Archipelago. Archipelago. Boca Raton. I found no agenda during COVID when I had a longing for simpler times and wondered what Adam Curry from MTV was up to. Can you imagine? Oh, man, we're locked down from COVID I wonder what Curry is doing. And I go to YouTube and see Adam's appearance on Rogan, which was just before the lockdowns. I felt like I found my tribe and immediately, immediately had an amygdala reside rising. I'm going to cut this short and just say thank you for everything. John, you gave us a scare, but glad you are here. Sorry I couldn't do this sooner, but better late than never. Cheers. And until the next donation, kind regards from Hans. Thank you, Hans.

[A]

Yeah, thanks for the compliment. Yes, Dr. Don and Dame Audra, they were at the meetup.

[B]

And did anyone come in with cash donations? Like, no blankets, water, but cash.

[A]

Cash. Well, this is interesting because everyone comes in. All the donations from the meetup were cash.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Except for one.

[B]

All right.

[A]

Except for one.

[B]

Did you. Do you have them all or are they on the spreadsheet?

[A]

They're all mixed in. They're in here. There wasn't no consolidation.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

All right. It wasn't necessary, so they just blended right in.

[B]

Blend.

[A]

So we got a note. Hello, boys. Thank you for your courage. A little feedback for crazy stuff. Steve, please don't ever schedule a meetup on Pride weekend.

[B]

What he had. Did he have a.

[A]

The traffic through the Bay? East Bay was horrendous. Worse than legacy podcast apps. Many thanks to you, John. And that may have been the problem with the meetup being so poorly attended.

[B]

Half of our audience was in the parade.

[A]

They're in the pride you get parade. Now that I think about it, many thanks to you, John and Adam and the entire no Agenda back office for the gift of the best podcast in the universe. Love, Dr. Don and Dame Audra. Bricks and men. And minifig steals from old people. That's some code for something. Now, what is this?

[B]

Apple note paper?

[A]

Well, he works at Apple. He's one of the Apple guys that watches the show. And he is.

[B]

He watches the show. Wow. Those guys at Apple.

[A]

What am I saying?

[B]

That was hands on.

[A]

Yeah, well, with a cane, he's blind, so I'm sorry I said that, but you're even worse. Brought it to my attention.

[B]

You're the worst.

[A]

He brought and gave me the new $1. Apparently every state's got one these, these commemorative $1 that were sold out. He has a bag of them of the $1 coin. California commemorative coin. Official real cool coin with Steve Jobs on it.

[B]

No way.

[A]

So Steve Jobs got on the coin

[B]

like a real dollar. You can spend it in the store.

[A]

Yes, it's an actual US currency dollar.

[B]

What?

[A]

And it's got Steve Jobs on. On Was funny when Brennan looked at the coin, he says. He says that the Steve Jobs depiction on the back looked like that Ramirez guy, the serial killer kind of looked like him. And so, so everybody was. Was, you know, the same. I had the same reaction. Everybody had the same reaction. This can't be real. Yeah, because this is supposed to be. It was determined that Steve was the most important Californian that we could put on this coin.

[B]

And California minted this themselves?

[A]

No, no, this was minted from the US Regular. Whoever stamps out the coins back.

[B]

I think Philadelphia Besson did it himself personally.

[A]

So. So these coins, and they only made a limited number, they're already selling for six bucks. Looks they're going to go to 20. And I was thinking what you would. All the people that could have been put on this coin, Californians, why they pick Steve Jobs, I don't know. But at the same time it. According to Don, they sold out. No bet they did in 12 minutes.

[B]

And he got a bag of them.

[A]

He got a whole bag. And he gave his. Giving them to other Apple people.

[B]

That's cool.

[A]

Cool it is.

[B]

As an aside, I apologize. I had no idea the Rocky versus Rambo would be such a hit. The troll room is still arguing over.

[A]

Over it. Oh, well, okay.

[B]

Well, I take it back.

[A]

Great promotion. We've been wrong before. At least we admit when we're wrong. So.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

Anyway, so they. That was. I thought was.

[B]

Well, that's cool. That's cool. I'm glad you got one. Where's mine?

[A]

Actually, Brunetti wants one too.

[B]

Brunetti?

[A]

When Brunetti comes to the. As the guest star car of the meetup. Yeah, probably gonna do it.

[B]

You're dodging the question about what? Where's mine?

[A]

Well, I talk. You gotta go ahold of Don. Maybe he's got a couple left. He might send you one. He didn't give me one to give you. Let's put it that way.

[B]

Okay, well, that's obvious.

[A]

You weren't at the meetup.

[B]

I've met Steve Jobs and I should get one.

[A]

I met Steve Jobs too.

[B]

Yeah, for an hour. Privately.

[A]

I met him when he was during the Apple II era. Oh well, when he was not quite the a hole that you became.

[B]

He was very nice.

[A]

What was you guys doing privately talking? Uh huh.

[B]

Eli the coffee guy is back. He's in Bensonville, Illinois and he's back with his $200 plus the date $6.28. And we love hearing from Eli the coffee guy. He says as America gets ready to celebrate its 250th anniversary, I want to reflect, reflect on the nation our forefathers built. There's still no freer or greater place on earth than the United States of America. Patriots rebelled against Britain and its oppressive taxes by dumping tea into the Boston Harbor. In its place, we adopted coffee. Gigawatt is just keeping the tradition alive, crafting the finest, freshest beans. This is how you do it. Visit gigawatt coffee coffeeroasters.com and use code ITM20 for 20% off your order and stay caffeinated, says Eli the coffee guy.

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Linda Loopatkin is up. She's in Castle Rock, Colorado and says jobs karma. Your resume is about 10 seconds to make an impression and most don't. For resume that gets result results go to ImageMakers Inc.com Linda helps professionals and executives position their experience so employers see their value. That's Image Makers Inc. With a K. And Linda Liu, duchess of jobs and writer of winning resumes. Jobs, Jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma and we still have

[B]

a couple more two hundreds here. Steve Peterson is in Kingaroy. That's in Queen Queensland, Australia. 200 and that would be probably. Oh he had oh wait he become he will be an executive producer because it is $303.12 in the dollary dollarettes from Australia. So we do honor that number. He says g'. Day. Kokinda is right. Check out the Fabian window. A deliberately hot world being forged by elitist clowns. And Australia's leaders are all all in. The Exchange rate sucks. $200 USD is 303 and 12 Australian cents. Wow, that is pretty bad. That's a third less. You know the the countries that suck the most right now that really suck the most are the uk, Canada and Australia.

[A]

Well Germany's pretty bad.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

And you get your hollanders there.

[B]

You know you're well I'm going to be giving you boots boots on the ground Thursday. We leave on Wednesday. We're going for almost two weeks to see if time it would be going

[A]

there for the baby's birth.

[B]

We hope so.

[A]

What do you mean you hope so?

[B]

Well, I mean the kid might be delayed. What if the kids.

[A]

Or it could be born on while you're in the air.

[B]

Yeah, well, that, that's okay. That would be okay. I just, you know, it's going to save me money going back.

[A]

Well, you're going to take the baby with you. No, the extra.

[B]

If the baby. The baby's born after we've already already left, we have to go back. Of course.

[A]

Oh, geez.

[B]

That's right. I told Christina, like, can you jump up and down a bit?

[A]

Yeah, jump up in. It's pizza. Pizza.

[B]

Pizza. Oh, pizza. Pizza. Is that what it does it? Pizza?

[A]

Yeah, pee. A big slice of pizza and you, boom, you have a baby.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And, and that's a known fact. It's been works for everybody.

[B]

And, and you know, of course we'll have a. A curry grandbaby donation amount. We'll have all kinds of fun stuff. Think. Think of the show, John. Think of.

[A]

Of the show. Ah, all right. Oh, Robert, we got one last one. Robert Montoy in Pleasant Hill. 200 bucks. No note.

[B]

Well, no note. That means a double up karma for you.

[A]

You've got double up karma.

[B]

And we thank these executive and associate executive producers for episode 1881 profusely. We appreciate it very, very much. And of course you get these official Hollywood credits. Associate executive producer or executive producer. They are valid wherever Hollywood credits are recognized. And that includes your LinkedIn profile and your IMDb and we thank you.

[A]

Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Shut up slave. Shut up slave.

[B]

And as promised, we will thank the rest of our time, talent and Treasure supporters, $50 and above. You know what we forgot? We completely forgot the artwork. And I'm not sure how that happened.

[A]

No, that's funny. I should have caught it.

[B]

Should we do that real quick before I do the. The 50s? Because we. Sure, yeah. That's part of the time. Talent and treasure. We had episode 1880, the Antifa book Club. The artwork, which was funny. It was good. Of course, it's Darren o'. Neill. This was our president with his snorkel coming out of the reflecting pool filled with algae with his own.

[A]

A lot of people like that piece

[B]

because it's a good piece. It's humorous. Although the AI kind of. If you look at it carefully, there's a. What looks like it's like a P51 trainer airplane with a banner with no agenda. And this and the ropes of the banner are on the far side of the Washington Monument. Which seems a little unlikely. Yeah, seems a bit unlikely. But it was a great piece and. Yes. And that's what it is. Sometimes Darren o', Neill, man, he just. He has it. He's got that magic. Let's see. We looked at other things though. I think there was something that I liked that you.

[A]

Not much.

[B]

I kind of like the. Well, the Scrabble. You're right. It wasn't all that great.

[A]

Well, the Scrabble is what Jay used for the news newsletter. So she just been putting it together and I call her up and where'd you. Why are you using this? Yeah, I think it's really good looking. And I said that's what Adam said.

[B]

Yeah. And then.

[A]

So I find it very irksome.

[B]

Some people like, hey, I like the no agenda in the reflecting pool. We'd already done one of those gags. The gag is over. A lot of rodenticide. A lot of dead rats. Rats deteriorated. This is a little gruesome.

[A]

Yeah. No dead.

[B]

But there also wasn't a lot. There wasn't a lot. It was only like maybe there was no inspection.

[A]

Inspiration. We get lots of art when people get inspired by something we say.

[B]

And so the Antifa Book Club, which is what the title of the show was, Blue Acorn did an Antifa Book Club art which blowed up is a great piece of art, but it's too small for the art as just a poster size image. And it's really. It's a waste because it was really good. But blowed up. It would be nice on the wall or something.

[A]

Yeah, that was one of the pieces that'd be huge to be appreciated.

[B]

All right, now we continue with our 50s and above. And we left off with the Duke of San Francisco who sends us $160. Thank you. Robin Tolbert from Topeka, Kansas. 133.33. We love the 33s. James Powers in Carnegie, Oklahoma. 100. Lydia of the Shire in.

[A]

Let me mention something about Lydia. So she's at the meetup and with the. She. I want to thank her for the bag of. She has dropped off a bag of giant Meyer lemons, which I'd never seen them quite that big. And some other goodies in the process. And she's about to become a dame.

[B]

Okay, $100. On her way. Sir Zolbat. 100 CCPeno. Was that a meetup person?

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

CC E N O. $100 coming in with $80.08. 8008. Try it on your calculator. Kevin McLaughlin. He is the arch. Luke of Duna, lover of America and boobs. He's from Concord, North Carolina, and he says 1881 La Deo, which translates to praise be to God. Inscribed on top of the Washington Monument, facing east towards the rising sun. The more you learn, the more you know. John Alberini, $70.26. Rebecca. Ha was 63 and she says, john Adam, I love you both. This is number three of several to count down to my birthday. Oh, yeah, she's doing the birthday countdown. July 18, when I turned 63. Born in 1963, hence the 63 donation amount. I'll be a dame by my birthday. Hugs from your boots on the ground in Italy. Rebecca is in Italy. Last name sounds like Ha. Yep, I got it. Lester Koski in Kingman, Arizona, with a small boobs. $80. 6. Nathan Gwynn.

[A]

Sorry, $80 and 6 cents.

[B]

I'm pretty sure I said $60.06.

[A]

Well, sounds like 80 to me.

[B]

Nathan Gwynn, Jackson, Tennessee, 5272. Foster Birch, New York, New York, 5272. Double nickels on the dime from Anonymous in Port Orchard, Washington. Interview and jobs Karma, please. Anonymous. What is this with the interview? Interview?

[A]

I don't know. He's giving an interview.

[B]

All right, well, he wants to give

[A]

him that at the end.

[B]

There's no. There's no such thing as an interview jingle. Katharine Fontel in Rotterdam, 50. Richard Gardner, $50. Aaron Weiss, Gerber Bend, Oregon, $50. Bobby Bowe in Bluegrass, Iowa, 50. And that's it. Those are our 50s, but we do see you 49.99. So you are there for a reason. And for that very reason, we will not mention you. We keep anonymous. But we are very grateful for your support of the no Agenda Show. And anybody can support the show with your time, your talent, or your treasure. It's really not that hard. All you have to do is go to no Agenda donations dot com. No Agenda donations dot com. We accept all forms of payments, including crypto. You can send your Stable coin. I don't think we've ever received a stablecoin donation. $35 trillion worth of stablecoin transactions. No agenda show has not seen a single one. I'm seeing skeptical.

[A]

Not yet.

[B]

Not yet. And we thank you. We thank you for supporting us. You can set up a recurring donation. Any amount, any frequency. Just go to noagendadonations.com here's the jobs Karma. No interview.

[A]

Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for Jobs Karma.

[B]

Well, it's going to Be a real short one. All we have is one listed on the birthday calendar night John turned 67 on June 26th. So we say happy birthday to you, sir, from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. We have a. Oh, we have a couple of Orders of the Heart. Well, that's always nice. Let's bring it right in.

[A]

Heart, pure of purpose, Right from the start. In the morning, brave and smart, the Order of the Heart.

[B]

Oh, man, Thursday will be the last time we get to play that jingle. And what fun it has been. And we congratulate David Rosa and Brendan Flemmer both today become Red Knights in the Order of the Heart. And we congratulate you, you. And we salute you both. Gentlemen. Thank you very much for your support.

[A]

Behold the Order of the Heart, pure of purpose, right from the start. In the morning, brave and smart, the Order of the Heart.

[B]

Okay, we have a layaway night coming up here, so let me read the layaway night note. This is from Jason Chapman. He says, when I started on the $4 a week plan back in late 2022, knighthood seemed unobtainable. But weekly donations do add up. A boobs donation, and a couple over 50 helped as well. I just donate and forget. Well, I just added it up and I haven't updated the spreadsheet since November, and bam. I'm a knight. Please see attached accounting. Yes, we checked it. Please Knight me. Sir L.P. mcHenry, Knight of the Fox River Valley. That's L.P. mcHenry. Just read the letters L&P and the CD McHenry. Gotcha. All I need at the round table is just some hookers and blow. They're all lined up for you. If I could just get a shut up slave jingle, I'll be happy. Got to stick with the plan. And next goal is producer credit. I'll add it to the Christmas list. Hope this wasn't too long. It was not. Thank you very much, Jason Chapman. John, get your blade out, because he's stepping up on the podium. And along with him, we have Brendan Flemmer. Both of you have supported the no Agenda show in a accumulated total accounting of at least $1,000. So I'm very proud to pronounce the Kate, both of you as knights, we have Sir Flemmer and Sir L.P. mcHenry, Knight of the Fox River Valley. For you, we've got Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay. We've got Flisky Glue and Kombucha. Along with that, we also have some Harlots and Haldol. Ruminesque, women in rose geishas and sake, vodka and vanilla bongits and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts, ginger ale and gerbils. We got breast milk and pablum, and we also have some mutton and the meat. It's a very big favorite here at the no Agenda roundtable for knights and dames. Head over to noagendarings.com also for your red knight pin, if you are eligible for one. And that'll be it for that. For that special, we brought John back to life. Mission accomplished, everybody. Thank you very much. Give us your ring size and tell us where to send it, because they are signet rings. They always are. Accompanied by a beautiful set of wax sticks. They are sticks indeed. And a certificate of authenticity. And welcome to the roundtable, our brand new knights of the no Agenda. Yeah, we talked about them earlier. The whole show. We've talked about the meetups, how important they are. They're important to your mental health. And we finally have a report from Berlin. And they took their sweet time in the morning. Adam and John is Augusto, the Italian. We are here in Berlin, Germany. Today was a lovely day for a meetup. It was 33 degrees in the afternoon.

[A]

Hi, everyone. Here is Tal from Berlin. Augusto hosted another lovely meetup, much nicer than the ones that I've hosted. We're here with several lovely people. There's five of us all together. And we, yeah, had some drinks and some food and some fun and. And it's really been a good time. Good people. Hello. Greetings from Berlin. Even though we are in Germany, there are no Germans among us.

[B]

So if you are German and you

[A]

want to come to the next meetup in Berlin, please do. We have a Brazilian, Two Americans. I'm Polish and we have a French guy, too. I've resisted Greetings from Berlin. This is the first time I ever

[B]

even heard of this podcast.

[A]

But, yeah, these are some very nice people and I've had a lovely evening. There was all of this discussion about what am I going to say? What are you going to say? Everyone wants to rehearse what they're going to say. But one thing that we thought we needed to mention is that the servers here in Berlin are 0 interested to be part of our meetup report.

[B]

Okay. He probably said that.

[A]

That actually tells us something. Yeah, that's interesting information there. Germany has been so suppressed with free speech.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't put me. I got nothing to do with. I don't want to get arrested. Exactly.

[B]

The Gestapo are on the way. No, I don't want.

[A]

Yeah, that's exactly right. That is pathetic. Pathetic.

[B]

Yeah. Sorry for you, Germany. Well, thank you. Thank you guys for your Berlin. Berlin meetup report. And it sounds like at least there are some sane people in Germany these days. We also have a meetup in Alabama taking place as we speak. The Northern Alabama meetup at Mellow Mushroom in Decatur and just underway in Longview, Texas at Rotolo's Pizzeria. The East Texas meetup and half century celebration. I think it's dirty Jersey Horse birthday on Thursday. Our next show day, the Northern wake. No agenda Pre Freedom Fest 250 meetup at 6 o' clock at Saints Scholars in Raleigh, North Carolina. And of course no meetups on the 4th of July. But we do have one on the 3rd in Oklahoma City. The 11th in Eagle, Idaho. The 14th. Scottsdale, Arizona. The 15th in Asheville, North Carolina. The 16th in Charlotte, North Carolina. I guess they need two. Anaheim, California, the 25th. Leo Bravo doing that one in Alfredo, Georgia on the 30th. And many more meetups on the calendar. You can find [e-mail] this is truly something that will give you connection with other human beings. It gives you immediate protection because these people will be your first responders in any emergency, guaranteed. Go to no agendameetups.com find one near you. If you can't, it's easy to start one yourself. There's no cost. Just put it together and put it at no agenda meetups.com always a party.

[A]

Hang out with all the nights and days you wanna be where you won't be triggered on Hell's Lame. You wanna be where everybody feels the same. It's like a party.

[B]

We do have end of show mixes coming up from the trifecta. Just Baker, Johnny B and mvp. We've got John's Tip of the day and I do not see any ISOs from you today.

[A]

I felt so bad about winning the last one. Oh, when I thought you had a better ISO, I'd defer to that one. But you probably can't find your old ISOs from the last show.

[B]

I probably can. Which is the one you like better?

[A]

Well, if you played them, I can tell you I think it was the first one.

[B]

Let's see. I think it was.

[A]

There's nothing else like that on planet Earth.

[B]

Was it that one?

[A]

That was a good one.

[B]

I have this one. These guys are great entertainers.

[A]

Very smart, very funny.

[B]

I have new ones. I have new ones.

[A]

It's highly entertaining.

[B]

And I have another new one that was great. I kind of like that one. I'm a little partial to that.

[A]

You know, I like the first one from the, that you played just from Vegas was the last show.

[B]

This one.

[A]

There's nothing else like that on planet Earth.

[B]

That's the one.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay, we'll do that one. But first we have to listen to John cuz he's got another tip of the day.

[A]

And sometimes Adam. All right, I got a wine tip from Costco.

[B]

Hey, all right. Wake the kids.

[A]

Only because people keep wanting these wine tips from Costco.

[B]

So we really want.

[A]

I'm going to try to get a couple in a month.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

This is a 2020. Now this is, this is for people who are really Chardonnay aficionados. I don't know if you want to want this wine. This is for the ABC people.

[B]

ABC anything.

[A]

That's the women who are that. That use the term abc, which means anything but Chardonnay.

[B]

Right.

[A]

There's a bunch of people that started to hate it. They don't like the buttery, the delicious, buttery Chardonnays. They don't like oak. They don't like this. They don't like that. This is a. But they like a crisp, clean Chardonnay. But they, you know, like a Chablis would be one. A good example from France.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

In France, they have the range of Chardonnays that there's only equaled by California. We have an incredible range of quality Chard Chardonnays. Yeah. Which is probably our best grape.

[B]

You did one of these recently. You did a, an ABC wine recommendation.

[A]

Yeah, I. Yeah, but it wasn't a shot. It was actually a true ABC one.

[B]

Okay. Okay.

[A]

This is a Chardonnay that qualifies because it's I consider a very well made, unobtrusive Chardonnay for people who don't like Chardonnay necessarily. And maybe if you like chardonnay, you'd like this one wine too. It's the Ferrari Carano, which they always make a good wine. It's a Sonoma Valley operation. F E R R a r I dash c a r a n o 2024 Sonoma County Chardonnay. And it's available at Costco for 15.98.

[B]

Wow. That's a pretty good price.

[A]

It's. It's a reasonable price.

[B]

What is it? Some of the ladies here, they're. They're drinking something else. And so they're all to going. Go for not, not blanc de blanc. That's that's bubbly, right? Blanc de blanc is bubbly.

[A]

Blanc de blanc is typically a sparkling wine.

[B]

Yeah. What is the other. What's something else? That.

[A]

Not a Vienna sauvignon blanc?

[B]

No. Maybe

[A]

I'm trying to think Pinot blanc.

[B]

I don't remember. I'm gonna have to find.

[A]

Oh, thanks a lot. That's useful.

[B]

Not useful at all. Not useful. So, you know, Matt Long came up to me.

[A]

Reminds me of the old John. Hey, John. I had this fabulous wine at this restaurant. It was unbelievable. Really? What was it? I don't know.

[B]

There it is, everybody. Get all the [e-mail] noajunderfund.com.

[A]

And sometimes Adam, created by Dana Bernetti.

[B]

Yeah. All right, everybody, that's it. I will be flying out of here on Wednesday and landing Thursday morning and doing the show for you until midnight because I love you. And we do this as a public service. We love doing it. We love it. And before we go today, we have end of show mixers at mixers mixes as a tease from just baker, MVP and sir Johnny B. It is a trifecta. You will love it. It's very, very good. The lyrics are finally getting together. Good job, boys. Good job. So we'll return on Thursday. We hope that you tune in because if you want to make sense of what's happening in your world, why the media is talking such bull crap, we'll deconstruct it for you. And until then, I am coming to you from the heart of the Texas hill country where we have our giraffe. Back in the morning, everybody. It's Fredericksburg calling.

[A]

I'm Adam Curry, and from northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak.

[B]

We'll be back. I'll be back on Thursday. Remember to support the show, your time, your talent, and your [e-mail] until Thursday. Adios mo fos. Hooey. Hooey and such. Morning sun hits the harbor light

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Chasing away the shadows of the night

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from the red clay hills to the northern

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shore opening 250as high call the pulse of the land in every stride With a spirit deep and a sense of pride? O land of the brave, land of the free Singing out for the world to sing? From the mountain peaks to the rolling blade we rise together through the sun and rain One heart, one hope One steady flame Calling out the amazing. We're still standing proud and free Always standing for the world to see? In the blue keeper seat runs deep Brigade creeps with a door cheap with that but these chlorophones so the SH in the safe seat keep Empire 4 pack NYC chair West Coast Mayor Stack corridor crew holds power while the base news as they lead with free Palestine is the fix for local decline Gaza keynote in the civil war zone where the precincts the punchline defund the peace line Seize the design cancel the western after party While the old guards slept Clocking virgins on the parental wi fi plan with the ideologies resuming reality Ban rebels out the managers who doze as the vanguard directs the ship that lists left burning pieces Righteousness further left wins safe districts but nationwide it's McGovern 28 dreams misery zips While the heartlands loses on a manifesto script Gender blender mixed with catch and release Fist storm nation resist wow Managers those on the red infiltration we stay woke on the frequency they can't script us a day Value for value Peel the onion, connect the dots no commie gatekeepers at the gate Red sweet blue sleep the ground Games elite while the district's deceased Bernie's thesis got I'm lifting for the left right cosign the theft. Socialism's a creep that only sells in the deep with the misery steep most hearts reject the red dagger lit with

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the knees Zip codes the seeds get

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set for the perfect storms Next step, your support's the only dividend on this independent ship no agenda New York's getting weird DSA just crushed the scene Little turnout, big upset, door knock, winning machines Talking free Palestine While I'm just buying fries and half of them still at home Surprise. What's my party again? What's my party again? They're running left of left like Bernie times 10 November's locked in place Same voter, same trend I'm still asking yo, what's my party again? To fund this and that Nationalize every brand Never had a job but they got a master plan Party bosses losing grit rebel storming in 2028's going to be a wild spin what's my party again? What's my party again? Feels like McGovern's ghost is laughing with friends Crime talk, culture fights, chaos never ends so I'm stuck yelling hey, what's my party again? The best podcast in the universe Adios, ma mofo devorak org na there's nothing else like that on planet Earth.