1737 - "Wrong Puberty"

Summary

Podcast Summary: No Agenda, Episode 1737 - "Wrong Puberty"

Introduction In episode 1737 titled "Wrong Puberty," hosts Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak delve into a range of pressing issues surrounding media deconstruction, government efficiency, and socio-political dynamics leading up to Super Bowl Sunday. Broadcasting live from the Texas hill country and northern Silicon Valley, the conversation intertwines technical challenges, conspiracy theories, and sharp critiques of contemporary media practices.

Streaming Super Bowl in 4K: Technical Hurdles The episode begins with a discussion about streaming the Super Bowl in 4K resolution via YouTube TV, highlighting significant technical difficulties.

• John C. Dvorak (00:44): "It's choking the network."
• Adam Curry (01:16): "This whole streaming idea for TV is a bad idea."

Despite the promise of enhanced viewing quality, listeners encounter constant loading errors and inaccessible 4K feeds, underscoring the fragility of current streaming infrastructures during peak events.

Elon Musk’s DOGE and Government Efficiency A substantial portion of the episode focuses on Elon Musk’s alleged Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), purportedly aimed at overhauling federal agencies like the Treasury and USAID. The hosts express skepticism and concern over DOGE's rapid access to sensitive information and the questionable vetting of its staffers.

• John C. Dvorak (06:37): "Big balls who work for Elon Musk..."
• Adam Curry (10:03): "This is your favorite president and I'm very sorry to see Big Balls leaving Doge."

The discussion intensifies with revelations about staffers like Aaron Burnett resigning over racist social media posts, raising alarms about DOGE’s influence and operational integrity.

• John C. Dvorak (08:54): "They called me Biggest Balls."

Critique of Mainstream Media: NPR and Wired Curry and Dvorak critique mainstream media outlets, particularly NPR and Wired, accusing them of biased reporting and failing to address critical issues adequately.

• Adam Curry (07:28): "Isn't it amazing... [on Wired’s reporting]"
• John C. Dvorak (13:03): "It's an embarrassment to all television."

They highlight instances where NPR's reporting on DOGE omits significant negative aspects, portraying an overly sanitized narrative that disregards underlying malpractices.

Transgender Issues and DEI Programs The conversation shifts to discuss transgender rights and Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) programs, both domestically and internationally. The hosts argue that DEI initiatives have been exploited to promote specific social agendas, leading to widespread societal divisions.

• Adam Curry (72:04): "USAID was doing a lot of exploration on just how far they could take this trans issue."
• John C. Dvorak (91:22): "Wrong puberty."

They express frustration over policies restricting gender-affirming care for minors, linking these issues to broader conspiratorial views about government manipulation and societal control.

Super Bowl Predictions: Eagles vs. Chiefs In a lighter yet politically charged segment, Curry and Dvorak make humorous yet pointed predictions about the Super Bowl matchup between the Philadelphia Eagles and the Kansas City Chiefs.

• John C. Dvorak (157:02): "I'm predicting that Saquon Barkley will go nuts again and he'll get the MVP."
• Adam Curry (167:12): "The Eagles take it by five."

Their predictions are laced with political commentary, suggesting that media and political biases could influence the game's outcome and its broadcasting.

Donor and Meetup Reports The episode includes a segment dedicated to acknowledging donations and reporting on various meetups held by listeners across different regions. These segments emphasize community engagement and support for the podcast’s independent operations.

• Adam Curry (187:29): "We will be thanking $50 above in our second donation segment."
• John C. Dvorak (191:24): "Thank you, sir Boober."

AI and Media Manipulation Concerns Curry discusses the pitfalls of relying on AI for accurate information, citing personal experiments with AI models that provided incorrect information about podcasting's origins and other topics.

• Adam Curry (120:12): "Ask it something that you absolutely are an expert in, and then you will see the flaws."
• John C. Dvorak (143:54): "It's all propaganda."

They caution listeners about the unreliability of AI-generated content and its potential misuse in spreading misinformation.

Conclusion and Final Remarks Wrapping up, the hosts reiterate their commitment to deconstructing media narratives and encouraging listeners to support independent journalism through donations and active community participation.

• Adam Curry (200:37): "Elon Musk. Elon Musk. Elon Musk."
• John C. Dvorak (204:48): "They do not have knowledge."

The episode concludes with a blend of humor, conspiracy rhetoric, and calls to action, encapsulating the provocative and unorthodox nature of the No Agenda podcast.

Notable Quotes:

• John C. Dvorak (00:44): "It's choking the network."
• Adam Curry (06:43): "Big balls kid, a literal teenager."
• Adam Curry (072:04): "USAID was doing a lot of exploration on just how far they could take this trans issue."
• John C. Dvorak (157:02): "I'm predicting that Saquon Barkley will go nuts again and he'll get the MVP."
• Adam Curry (120:12): "Ask it something that you absolutely are an expert in, and then you will see the flaws."

Final Notes: This episode of No Agenda exemplifies the hosts' blend of technical analysis, media critique, and socio-political commentary. While some discussions verge on conspiracy theories, they aim to provoke listeners to question mainstream narratives and seek alternative viewpoints. The inclusion of community interactions and meetup reports fosters a sense of camaraderie among listeners, reinforcing the podcast's independent and grassroots ethos.

Transcript

[John C. Dvorak]

Tell you, Mr. Producer Adam Curry, John.

[Adam Curry]

C. Dvorak, it's Sunday, February 9th, 2025. This is your award winning Kimonation Media Assassination, episode 1737.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is no Agenda.

[Adam Curry]

We're doubling down and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country right here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry.

[John C. Dvorak]

Cam. From northern Silicon Valley where it's Super Bowl Sunday. I'm John C. Dvorak.

[Adam Curry]

It's crackpot and buzzkill in. That's right. Sports ball. Sports ball, everybody. Everybody's doing. Everyone has taken their donations and is betting on the game. That could be. That's what happened.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'll tell you this. It's choking the network. So Google TV.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, it's just. So they have a 4K feed for the. I think this may be the first time we've seen 4K for the Super Bowl.

[Adam Curry]

Is this. You mean YouTube TV?

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm sorry. Yeah, YouTube. Yeah. Yeah, right. Yes. That's great because there is actually a Google tv, which is something else.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, it's. Yeah, yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's just a bunch of videos. Anyway, the YouTube TV, which is a substitute for cable, is choking in its own vomit.

[Adam Curry]

What are you watching? Are you, are you watching Fox or what are you watching?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, it's on Fox. The Super Bowl's on Fox.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

And so they have a 4K feed plus the regular feed.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

And the 4K feed won't load. It's just choking and it gives you a message. It's like, oh, oh, something went wrong. Try again. And it actually says, oh, oh, U h o, uh, oh, oh, I'm watching now.

[Adam Curry]

It's okay. I don't have 4K but I have the regular feed.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, the 4K is just borked.

[Adam Curry]

And you pay extra for that.

[John C. Dvorak]

You pay extra for a borked feed, but you can just tell.

[Adam Curry]

Are you an upset consumer? Is that what I'm hearing here?

[John C. Dvorak]

You can tell that this is. That it's choking the network. Comcast is probably, you know, everything is just being choked out by the super bowl interest. I'm sure at the beginning of the game will be really bad. Yeah, it'll fade. Because the game, you know, we'll talk about the game later and make our predictions.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

And it will. Should. I doubt if it's going to be one of those close games, but it could be. And so people will bail out and then you'll get. The feed will come through. This is. This whole streaming idea for TV is a bad idea.

[Adam Curry]

They'll Get.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, because I can, I can turn on the, I can flip over to the antenna.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Quality is just as good, if not better.

[Adam Curry]

I have an antenna and it works just fine.

[John C. Dvorak]

I tell you it does and it doesn't. Put. And you yourself is the one who went on about, in some post some years back about how. Well, the problem with, you know, the Internet is that everything's one to one.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. For every person you add to your audience, it costs you more money. That's always been the problem. But the whole architecture of Netflix and Amazon and Google is that they have a head. You know, they have servers right there sitting connected directly to your connection if it's all done right. But even that may be insufficient.

[John C. Dvorak]

Which may be insufficient if you want to change the number, like how many people you know. Yes, we do. Netflix has a server on the server.

[Adam Curry]

Sure, a server on the server.

[John C. Dvorak]

And so they have these little outlets. Of course, if you want to watch something obscure, it has to go to the main office. It's not everything is on there.

[Adam Curry]

Bring back the M Bone, people.

[John C. Dvorak]

The whole thing is a joke.

[Adam Curry]

Remember the M Bone?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I remember the M Bone. That was another failed attempt.

[Adam Curry]

Well, because nobody had the gear for the M Bone. But the M Bone was a good idea at the time. It's just. It went nowhere. You needed a Spark Sun Spark workstation.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it was.

[Adam Curry]

I can't do it with Windows 11. I can't get on the M Bone. It doesn't work. There's probably five people out there who remember the M Bone.

[John C. Dvorak]

So, so streaming works when it's, when there's, when the, when the demand is within reason. Millions. Millions of people. But if you got to 100 million people or, or, or once you go to 4K where you have to, you know, pretty much multiplies everything by factor of five in terms of bandwidth necessary.

[Adam Curry]

Well, you know what this is?

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, it changes the way things. The model doesn't work.

[Adam Curry]

That's because they're putting all their capex expenditure into AI. They should be putting the money into streaming because that's a real. I mean I try not to pay any money to anybody what I pay for YouTube TV. What is it up to now? 70 bucks a month.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, it keeps going up because it costs too much money to do it. They're probably losing money. Well, they're probably not losing money, those guys. No, but the point is if you, if Google, who is the, you know, the initiator of large scale systems for search, for example.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

And have networking capabilities that most people can only dream of. Can't manage the 4K stream over a Comcast 800 megabit line.

[Adam Curry]

I remember when we had rabbit ears and life was good.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, actually rabbit ears work quite well with high definition digital television.

[Adam Curry]

You know, I'm looking at my feed right now and it's very.

[John C. Dvorak]

I knew this would happen.

[Adam Curry]

No, but it's very. Well, no, it's very jarring to see the football field in the background with speaker of the House Mike Johnson in the foreground. It's like my brain can't wrap around it. It's like, what is he doing there on the, the 50 yard line? Anyway, I, the reason why I have it on is because President Trump will be doubling down in his pregame interview. Doubling down on his mandate.

[John C. Dvorak]

Doubling down on what?

[Adam Curry]

On his mandate to shutter these agencies.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, well, that's.

[Adam Curry]

I guess they've.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know how he can double down when he's already going at full tilt.

[Adam Curry]

Allow me to get you into your clips with a super clip. A mini super clip of what?

[John C. Dvorak]

Before you do that, did you tease, since you just teased that, what series of clips? I have about four.

[Adam Curry]

Well, when I play the supercut, you'll know exactly what to play and I'm gonna let you start it off. Stand by.

[John C. Dvorak]

Thanks for joining us. We begin tonight with Musk and Big Balls.

[Katherine]

Big balls.

[Adam Curry]

Big balls.

[John C. Dvorak]

Big balls who work for Elon Musk, so called Department of Government Efficiency Doge.

[Scott Horton]

In the one case of the Big.

[Adam Curry]

Balls kid, a literal teenager.

[Katherine]

Big Balls online Big Balls here that Katie's talking about a 19 year old.

[Adam Curry]

That goes by the username Big Balls.

[Katherine]

So that would be one way that.

[John C. Dvorak]

We could refer to him beyond computer whizzers.

[Adam Curry]

Whizzes.

[John C. Dvorak]

The aforementioned Big Balls.

[Katherine]

Because who among us doesn't feel better about Big balls?

[Adam Curry]

Big balls. Big balls in charge of American air traffic. I love the times we are in right now.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think you started, you managed to. I don't know how you did it, but you started the show off with the lowest common denominator. Juvenile material you could, but it's necessary.

[Adam Curry]

Because everyone loves saying big balls. Everyone loves it. It's hilarious. It's hilarious. Everyone loves it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I only have the one clip which is mocking the whole thing. I do have the intro clip, which is. This is the one that was in that mix which is Big ball cnn. This is a woman on cnn. She, I believe she's the one who started it off. Where once she said it on CNN, everybody could say it.

[Katherine]

Yes, so this is a 19 year old high school graduate who has used the unfortunate nickname Big Balls online.

[Adam Curry]

You know, that's the lady from Wired. They're the ones that have done this outstanding reporting. John, there's just fabulous reporting. They've done all the reporting on the Doge team. The big balls, the big Balls I just love. The most tepid and demure person who pronounces Big balls is Anderson Cooper, of all people. Big Balls. Everyone else is like big Balls. I get to say Big Balls on television and Anderson Cooper's like Big balls.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Well, this is an embarrassment to all television. So a guy comes on, one of the many, and I wish we could get this down. The Trump impersonators.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, this guy is good. I'm glad you got this one.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's pretty good. And here's his little take on the whole big. This is a fake Trump doing Trump and his take on the big balls. And there's some good gags in here. This is your favorite president and I'm very sorry to see Big Balls leaving Doge. Big Balls did tremendous work.

[Adam Curry]

Americans voted for Big Balls. They voted for, voted for me and.

[John C. Dvorak]

They called me Biggest Balls.

[Adam Curry]

You know what I'm talking about?

[John C. Dvorak]

Fake news.

[Adam Curry]

CNN is very unhappy with the name Big Balls.

[John C. Dvorak]

They wouldn't know Big Balls if it hit him in the face. Except Anderson Cooper, you know what I'm talking about.

[Adam Curry]

But I want to recognize some of the other fantastic people over at Doge. Pat McCroch. Pat is doing a wonderful job. I've known him for a long time.

[John C. Dvorak]

Phil McCracken. Phil is lighting it up, doing wonderful work.

[Adam Curry]

Holden McGroin.

[John C. Dvorak]

Holden McGroin is really carrying his weight.

[Adam Curry]

That much I can tell you. And Michael Hunt, We've known Mike for a long time. He goes by Mike and we've known.

[John C. Dvorak]

Him for a long time. But Americans voted overwhelmingly for Big Balls.

[Adam Curry]

You know that when they elected me.

[John C. Dvorak]

And while Big Balls may not be.

[Adam Curry]

Working at Doge anymore, Biggest Balls is still working as your president.

[John C. Dvorak]

We are making America ballsy again.

[Adam Curry]

And we are making America great again.

[John C. Dvorak]

That will continue. That's not going to stop.

[Adam Curry]

We will never give up. We will never surrender, we will never back down.

[John C. Dvorak]

And we will make America great again.

[Adam Curry]

Believe me. It's kind of sad when people in the troll room are arguing over whether this is AI or not. I mean, it's sad because this is one of the best impersonator voice. I mean, obviously you can tell it's not the President, but he does a great job. Everything that he does in there is just good.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Yeah. There's about five guys are doing this, and they're all. When you get the cadence right, it's pretty funny.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Maybe just before you get into. You. You want. You want to do Doge stuff, which I think that's where you'd want to start, right?

[John C. Dvorak]

That'd be fine with me. You know, as predicted, low donations. Like you said, you don't care. Start anywhere.

[Adam Curry]

I. My hate. Listen, did not disappoint.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. I. You know, I saw this. You're talking about the. By the way, I. I thought that, you know, I don't watch these guys.

[Adam Curry]

I don't watch them. I only listen to them. I didn't even know they were doing video.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I always thought they did video in a. In a settee where they were seated and.

[Adam Curry]

No, no.

[John C. Dvorak]

Because she's got the cans on her ears.

[Adam Curry]

No, but they're all. They always start this. We're talking about the Pivot podcast with Prof. G and Kara Swisher. No, they always talking about where they are. And Prof. G. Is like, I'm in London today in my house here. I'm in Dubai. I'm visiting for the soccer match. And Kara's like, I'm in D.C. oh, no, we're renovating the house in D.C. i'm in San Francisco. I have a secret project. I'm here in Los Angeles. They are the biggest elitist. Oh, always. Wow. I'm in New York. Thank you, Scott, for letting me use your apartment in New York. They're always talking about where they are and what house they're in. Now, they apparently each have at least two or three. Oh, I'm in Miami. Galloway has homes in Miami. Oh, it's everywhere. Oh, yeah. Oh, it's amazing.

[John C. Dvorak]

So I. There was a clip. I know which clip you're going to play, but there was another clip that somebody posted in one of the threads where Galloway is bragging about how what a smart move it was to bet $385,000.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah, yeah. I think I had that clip along, and we didn't play it. Yeah. This is at the election. He said, you know, this is a, you know, I'm sure thing.

[John C. Dvorak]

A million dollars payout.

[Adam Curry]

No, no. But he's. He was saying, because, you know, he's an investor. Very successful investor. Very successful. Extremely successful. And.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, a successful investor throwing $385,000 on a. On a presidential bid bet versus Kamala Harris. Okay. That's smart.

[Adam Curry]

The clip that is more interesting. I don't have that one. Either is where he says, you know, okay, So I lost $400,000. For me, that's just a bad hour or so. But, you know, it doesn't really move the needle for me. This is how these people talk. They're amazing. They're amazing. All right, let's just play this where they become completely unhinged over Doge.

[Katherine]

And the question is, a lot of them are like, what do we do? They're literally asking me, what do we do to stop him?

[Adam Curry]

I was like, I'm sorry, this is the one I want to play. I want to know, who are these?

[John C. Dvorak]

Wait, wait, wait. Are you going to play that other one still? The one where she says, people are asking me, yes, I'll play that because I'm the great expert on musk.

[Adam Curry]

Well, you might as well play it now.

[Katherine]

The question is, a lot of them are like, what do we do? They're literally asking me, what do we do to stop him?

[Adam Curry]

People are, oh, by the way, Galloway. Oh, yeah, no, I had at least five senators call me. Oh, yeah, no, they are. They are the creme de la creme of the elite.

[John C. Dvorak]

People are unbelievable.

[Adam Curry]

If I have a problem, who are you going to call? Karis Wisher.

[Katherine]

I was like. I just. I was like, you don't. You actually don't have the means to do so because these poor people are in these agencies. And when these idiots come in, these children, arrogant little pricks come in and say, we're going to call the federal marshals, or, the president has ordered you to step aside.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hold on. Stop it. How does she know they're arrogant little pricks? That she met even one of them?

[Adam Curry]

Well, they work with Elon. How could they not be?

[John C. Dvorak]

How do you call somebody arrogant little prick when you've never met them?

[Adam Curry]

I think it's. I think that they can sue. Yeah, we have big balls. We have big balls. You can't just say, we're little pricks. No, no, no.

[Katherine]

The president has ordered you to step aside. They kind of have to, you know, you have to be resistant and be. Be walked out by security, and then security doesn't know which one to listen to. Right.

[Adam Curry]

Essentially, I'd like to see all. This is my favorite because I listen to the whole podcast. At a certain point is like, I advise all these people who. Because they don't just call car. They call Prof. G. The very successful Prof. G. And he said, you need to go down there and you need to get arrested. You need to get arrested to make the point. Whatever it is 48 or 49 US senators and any Republicans that want to join, I'd like to see a couple hundred members of Congress go to the building where this is and demand to go in and physically stop this and let them. What?

[John C. Dvorak]

We're kind of like these guys in this cussing.

[Adam Curry]

Well, that's just. Oh, the whole podcast is full of cussing because they don't have any other words. Go to the fucking building where this is and demand to go in and physically stop this and let them arrest you. Let them arrest you. Yes. Oh, yeah, okay. Anyway, let's go to the. The Prof. G. The Prof. G. Meltdown. I want to know who are these young, highly intelligent, highly motivated zealots following him into these buildings and shutting off payments to schools and head starts? I want to know their names.

[Katherine]

Well, I want to see the local officials are trying to make that official. The newly installed Trump are threatening people for naming their names. Just so you know.

[Adam Curry]

Go ahead. Oh yeah, but they can unmask CIA officers who put their lives in harm's way to try and keep our, to try and keep our Americans safe. I want to know who their names are and I want to see Democratic governors saying, I'm going to do everything I can in my power to use the full faith and to the letter of the law to put you folks in prison. I think what you're doing is trespassing. I think this is a coup. And be clear, just because the new insurrectionist who was elected, you know, I don't believe this is legal and I'm going to hold the people accountable who are trespassing and in part of a coup accountable. It to just sit back and say this is on, this is horrible and this is unlawful. We need to go gangster here and say, look, hey man, I'm white. We're going to go gangster. This is horrible and this is unlawful. We need to go gangster here and say gangster. Look, we are not negotiating gangster around this stuff. This is illegal.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is a coup.

[Adam Curry]

This is the unlawful seizure of power. We are not going to engage in these bullshit, ridiculous arguments over, you know, Gaza and Greenland. We are going to hold the people accountable. Here are their names, here are their faces. And we have contacted the local authorities in where these kids live. These young adults go arrest them and we are going to hold them accountable. Yeah, we're gonna string em up, string them up. Those kids.

[John C. Dvorak]

A lynch mob. Just a lynch mob mentality. Exactly.

[Adam Curry]

It's great. It's great. And I think that she should return her Dvorak School of Broadcasting Certificate.

[John C. Dvorak]

She, she.

[Adam Curry]

I'll never. I'll never make mention of again. No one you could have mentored could become this unhinged on air ever. Just doesn't happen.

[John C. Dvorak]

I believe that's correct. She got mentored, as she says, herself by Walt Mossberg.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah. And we all know the truth.

[John C. Dvorak]

She did show up on the show, though. So there you go.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah, she did.

[John C. Dvorak]

I gave her her break. You can condemn me for that.

[Adam Curry]

I'm not condemning you. I am grateful. Think about. I mean, there. Yeah, it's 15 minutes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, it's material. Yeah, material.

[Adam Curry]

Great. You need to indoctrinate more of these people. It's good. Good work. Good work. All right, doge clips. JCD. Go.

[John C. Dvorak]

You and Mark Levin.

[Adam Curry]

Cut three, clip 10.

[John C. Dvorak]

Tell you, Mr. Producer.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, exactly.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, let's go over the. The distraught clips. These are from npr, and this is a series of how distraught and, and ruined lives are becoming because of. And listen carefully to these clips because they make no mention npr. And I have some complaints about npr, as usual.

[Adam Curry]

Later. And why not?

[John C. Dvorak]

They make no mention of the waste, fraud and abuse. In fact, they claim there's none because everything's USAID is great. Let's go.

[Adam Curry]

Go.

[Katherine]

Elon Musk continues to send shock waves through the federal government. His cost cutting team, the Department of Government Efficiency, or doge, has been tearing through the government since Inauguration Day. But now DOGE has been hit with multiple lawsuits, and a member of the team even stepped down after a series of racist social media posts surfaced. What do we actually know about this newly created entity that has so much power? What are they doing and who is working there? Well, for help understanding some of this, we're joined now by NPR's Shannon Bond, who has been following all things doge. Hi, Shannon. Hi, Elsa. Okay, so just lay out what we know so far about what DOGE is doing. Yeah. So our reporting shows this effort appears to be focusing on technology and personnel at federal agencies. So staffers connected to DOGE are gaining access to sensitive systems and information, information on government payments and about employees. And Elon Musk, who's leading the effort, has been cheering on their work on his Platform X. He's taken credit for efforts to dismantle the U.S. agency for International Development, which has funded everything from relief efforts in Ukraine to secret schools for girls in Afghanistan.

[Adam Curry]

By the way, pay attention to people who say USAID versus usaid, because that's one of those. That's kind of.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it's a little tricky.

[Adam Curry]

It was Federal Reserve you know, it's like.

[John C. Dvorak]

But you listen to the end. Go play the end again. Because she emphasizes, I don't even know if these are real programs or not. But she emphasized there's no mention of any of the, you know, Guatemalan sex change operations or the. Or promoting gay. The gay agenda in Uganda, which has a death penalty or any of the other kinds of screwball things these guys do. She just passes it off as some great operation. That is the best.

[Katherine]

He's taken credit for efforts to dismantle the U.S. agency for International Development, which has funded everything from relief efforts in Ukraine to secret schools for girls in Afghanistan.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

Fabulous.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

The secret schools for girls in Afghanistan.

[Adam Curry]

You need some. All right. You need some. You need some. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

One word.

[Katherine]

Musk has also said that Doge is shutting down what he calls, quote, illegal payments from the Department of Health and Human Services to nonprofit groups. But look, even as he's talking about all this stuff, there are still a lot of questions about the scope of what Doge is doing and whether they actually have the authority to do it. Deborah Pearlstein is a constitutional scholar at Princeton University. One of the reasons we can't tell what's going on and what power they have is because they haven't really made what they're doing public at all. And that also includes who it is who's doing this.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's a laundry list of stuff they're.

[Katherine]

Doing of the reasons we can't tell what's going on and what power they have is because they haven't really made what they're doing public at all. And that also includes who it is who's doing this work. Exactly. So what do we know about the people working for Doge? Like, who are they? Right, so there is a Doge team in the White House that Musk is leading, but a lot of this stuff is actually happening in the agencies. There are staffers connecting to Doge, fanning out across the federal government. So, for example, we have a number of Musk connected figures who've been named to senior roles. That includes Tom Krause. He's a tech CEO who just today was put in charge of the Treasury Department system that processes trillions of dollars in payments every year. Now, what's notable here, Elsa, is that this week, in a. In a legal challenge around this arrangement, the government said that Kraus has read only access to this payment system. But then we have Musk posting publicly about shutting off pay. And so now his ally is running that system. There are other folks who've Worked at Musk's companies, including Tesla and xai, who are in senior positions at the Office of Personnel Management and the General Services Administration. And of course, there's also this group of young male software engineers. Right. That have gotten a lot of issues.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah.

[Katherine]

Including the staffer who resigned just yesterday.

[Adam Curry]

Right.

[Katherine]

Like, what was his story?

[Adam Curry]

Okay, I just need to say something. Just interject a little bit here. The ageism is really. It's almost. I mean, in a way, I understand it, but it's kind of baffling because whenever it comes to the greatest technology in your iPhone, everybody's always happy about, oh, these are the smartest kids in the world. They're young, you know, they're making my camera better. You know, they're making everything faster. It's fantastic. What they used to call them ninjas. Code ninjas. They're the best. They're the greatest. Now it's like, what do these kids know about the treasury system? Oh, my, oh, my, oh, my.

[John C. Dvorak]

You can't let.

[Adam Curry]

You need. And by the way, they fired all the COBOL guys. If you can still get a cobol.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, this is. I should interject it. I'll bring this up because I was talking to JC about this, who was in that industry, and he says that one of the things that happened with the usaid and it looks like the treasury, too, and he predicted something which I'll mention, which is that exactly what you said. I'm glad you said it. Which is that the Cobalt, the gray beards, as they're called.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

All retired. And they're the ones who put all these systems together that work. Their systems do work, but they're old.

[Adam Curry]

It just works. They're old.

[John C. Dvorak]

And according to, you know, the gossip mill is when the Gray Beers quit, they told all the kids that are running things, because the kids, they know JavaScript, they can do C, maybe they can rust.

[Adam Curry]

I need rust.

[John C. Dvorak]

They said to the kids, don't touch anything. And so these old COBOL systems are in place, but they're going to have to upgrade at some point. And he says that, and that's the reason that we've heard stories about, oh, they won't let him in. They won't let him look at anything. They won't let him do this or they won't let him do that because there were. Because they don't know anything that's going on, literally. So they can't help the DOGE guys. Now he says that they're going to try to upgrade these systems and they're all going to get. Because it's going to be new. Code new. Everything is all going to get borked. And he's predicted.

[Adam Curry]

I'm. I'm not going to argue that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Of course not. Because you know, you, you're.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I know. You know, I used to work for IBM was the AS 400 division was my client to think new ideas. I know, I know. And they're like we can't put a web server on our boxes. We can't have a website unless it runs on as 400. Okay, good luck.

[John C. Dvorak]

So they have. He believes the following is going to. This is a scenario that's a predictive scenario that I liked. They're going to try to fix systems including the IRS filing system, which apparently stopped working. And since it's an old COBOL system, basically, they can't. They have to. He pointed out that AI coding, which is all these new kids are doing, they use AI to do coding and doesn't code COBOL because there's not enough material to feed the language model.

[Adam Curry]

Slurp in. Right.

[John C. Dvorak]

So there's not. So that. So AI can't do cobol and so they're going to have to abandon COBOL and go to these new systems. He predicts it's going to not work right away. There's not. There's going to be such a big screw up of the IRS is going to go as follows. You don't have to file.

[Adam Curry]

That's all right. Because President Trump's going to take away income tax anyway. It's all good.

[John C. Dvorak]

This may be part of that scheme. He, he. The way it goes is like this. You don't have to file right away. You can file later. The April 15 things, they're going to give him some slack on this. But what it really means is you're not going to get your refunds.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, there's that. Yep, there's that.

[John C. Dvorak]

And so they're going to be. So the government's going to be sitting on these refunds now. That's for God knows how long.

[Adam Curry]

That's the rumor mill. JC's hearing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, the rumor mill is you're not going to get your refunds this year on time this year.

[Adam Curry]

So.

[John C. Dvorak]

Which by the way, is not good for the show.

[Adam Curry]

This is very Trump. You're hurting the show, man. Doge, wait. Not. You think they're already changing the code now?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know what they're up to. I'd have to talk to him some more about it. This day. We didn't have dinner this last Friday because they. He's sick and you know, he got that. Whatever that coof is.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

And so I'll find out more later.

[Adam Curry]

Respiratory flu. These days, it's different.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, is that what it is?

[Adam Curry]

That's what it is, yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Respiratory. So I, I'll find out later and. But this is, this is hilarious. This is a disaster in every way.

[Adam Curry]

All right, number three, back to NPR.

[Katherine]

Well, his name is Marco Elez. He's a 25 year old Rutgers University graduate who previously worked at Musk, SpaceX and at X. He was a temporary appointee at treasury who was granted access to this payment system alongside Kraus. Now, on Thursday, the Wall Street Journal identified racist posts from a social media account linked to him. Those posts have been deleted, but NPR did independ confirm them and Ellis has now resigned, although Musk and Vice President J.D. vance are saying he should get his job back. But all this raises questions about just how thoroughly vetted some of these staffers are. And then there are other relatively junior engineers, names that are popping up just at multiple agencies, creating a lot of confusion for workers and frankly, alarm. Well, I understand that legal challenges to Doge are coming really quickly now. How might that affect the overall work of this team, you think? Yeah. Also, I mean, the first lawsuit about Doge was filed just minutes after President Trump was sworn in. This week we've had unions representing government workers suing treasury over concerns about the Doge staffers accessing that payment system. I talk about a judge temporarily limited access to people inside treasury, so not Musk and his team. At the White House. On Friday, the University of California student government sued to stop Doge from gaining access to data on student loan borrowers. These lawsuits could constrain the scope of Doge's work, but you know, they move slowly in the legal system. Meanwhile, government workers we're speaking to say Doge is very quickly moving ahead with this work.

[Adam Curry]

All right, let's just parse some things out here. First of all, this racist comment. Now, if I understand correctly, the guy who made the racist comment is Akash Boba and he's Indian. And the what he posted somewhere in his past, probably when he was 15, was.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, this is classic.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, was. I'm not going to marry outside of my race. This, by the way, that's Indians.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yep, that's. And you know, it's also Jews.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's also Catholics.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's also lots of people that have this feeling, especially old timers.

[Adam Curry]

Mo, mo, mo, mo, mofax, Mo and You know, so, but that is not. Oh, he got fired for racist comments. And you notice they don't really expound on it, you know, or expand on what he actually tweeted and when he tw. And there's all kinds of interesting take takedowns. I love the one from Krebs on security. Oh, Krebs on security. Oh, they really dug in deep, these guys. Oh yeah, he founded Tesla Sexy llc. Oh no. Horrible, horrible, horrible. It's all so bad. You know, I'm kind of holding back because it, it does have clips of Kara Swisher, but Aaron Burnett, you know this. The true breaking news came from Wired and I think it's. Is it Katie Drummond? Is she, let me see, is she the Wired lady? I think she's the Wired lady, yeah. So she is the executive vice president, editor in chief of all things Wired. And Wired is just doing such excellent reporting. So let's get a little background.

[Katherine]

Breaking news, a 25 year old aide at Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency resigning tonight over links to social media posts advocating racism and eugenics. This is according to the Wall Street.

[Adam Curry]

Journal, again, advocating racism and eugenics. John. Eugenics.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, so in other words, I want to marry within my own cast. Yes, that is a form of eugenics.

[Adam Curry]

That's eugenics. Exactly. I mean, it boggles the mind. But it's Aaron Burnett. What do you expect?

[Katherine]

Advocating racism and eugenics. This is according to the Wall Street Journal.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hold on a second. Again, they have this material. They don't have to read it. They can put it on the screen. They never do this.

[Adam Curry]

Why would we do that? No, that's not.

[John C. Dvorak]

How misleading you are.

[Adam Curry]

People might get a clue.

[Katherine]

According to the Wall Street Journal, who says that the aide resigned after being confronted with the posts. Now that former, now former Doge aid was one of the people at the center of a legal dispute over accessing that sensitive, crucial and massive Treasury Department payment system.

[Adam Curry]

Massive.

[Katherine]

And it comes as one of our next guests has uncovered even more details about another of Musk's young deput out front now, Kara Swisher, tech journalist, podcast host, who has covered Elon Musk extensively for years in the entire tech world. And Katie Drummond, global editorial director at Wired, which has been breaking story after story on these recent high schools that Musk has brought to Washington.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, so let's listen to Katie Drummond. We'll skip the Swisher stuff because it's just her hating on everybody, like her book, like everything she does.

[Katherine]

So Katie, let's talk about One of these people specifically. Now your latest story is a 19. It focuses on a 19 year old sophomore engineer working at Doge.

[Adam Curry]

19. Working at Doge. 19. 19. He's 19, ladies and gentlemen, he's 19. 19 year olds are sent to deserts to go fight on your behalf.

[John C. Dvorak]

With a gun.

[Adam Curry]

With a gun. They're catching hot lead in the desert. But now he's your 19 year old.

[Katherine]

Someone who's past associations that you have looked into, such that they are at 19 would call into question passing a background check. Of course that hasn't happened in these cases, but would normally happen in a case with accidents like this one. Yes. So this is a 19 year old high school, one would hope, who has used the unfortunate nickname Big Balls online. So that would be one way that we could refer to him.

[Adam Curry]

Why unfortunate? Why is it unfortunate? It's a great nickname.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's actually interesting. That's a good catch.

[Adam Curry]

Why is it unfortunate? Because you are forced to say Big.

[John C. Dvorak]

Balls on cnn, which you apparently enjoy.

[Katherine]

Doing, who has used the unfortunate nickname Big Ball Balls online. So that would be one way that we could refer to him, refer to.

[Adam Curry]

Him by his name. Then maybe you could refer to him in many different ways. No, because you like saying Big Balls. You like it, say it. Say it.

[Katherine]

Big Balls. He is now working at Musk's behest inside Doge. And we looked into his background and so we found, you know, several notable things, Aaron, One of which is that this individual has founded multiple companies, including one with another unfortunate name. Unfortunate name Tesla Sexy llc.

[Adam Curry]

Oh no.

[John C. Dvorak]

Why is that unfortunate?

[Adam Curry]

Because she has to mention Tesla, I guess, and she doesn't want to. I don't know, it's, it's, it's, it's a mystery.

[Katherine]

Which he established in 2021. He would have been around 16 years old. Now this LLC controls dozens of web domains.

[Adam Curry]

Hold on a second. So this is what I like. Now she goes from a name, Tesla Sexy llc, a screen name, to acting as if there's an actual llc, like a limited liability corporation that has registered domain names. I mean, as far as I can tell, there is no Tesla Sexy llc. But now she makes it sound like.

[Katherine]

He'S got a corporation he established in 2021. He would have been around 16 years old. Now this LLC controls dozens of web domains, a handful of which are registered to Russia. Now that.

[Adam Curry]

OK, stop. They're not registered to Russia. He registered some.ru domain names that's not registered to Russia. This is the lady who has done this excellent technology reporting just Fabulous work. So good, Katie.

[Katherine]

It controls dozens of web domains, a handful of which are registered to Russia. Now that in and of itself is not necessarily.

[Adam Curry]

No, it's be correct.

[Katherine]

Is bull illegal. But everybody spoke to said that that is exactly the kind of thing, those kinds of foreign connections.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh my God.

[Adam Curry]

Foreign connection. I can register a DO domain. Am I a Russian asset? And do I have unfortunate foreign connections?

[Katherine]

That would raise red flags on a background check. Now he also worked at Red Flag.

[Adam Curry]

Red Flag. You registered a domain name? Oh no, I have Big Mike2024.com I think I should go to jail.

[Katherine]

That would raise, I think so too on a background check. Now he also worked at a network monitoring firm that is known for hiring reformed black hat hackers, essentially criminals. And lastly.

[Adam Curry]

Go ahead, go ahead.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's not true.

[Adam Curry]

Essentially criminals.

[John C. Dvorak]

Unless they committed a crime.

[Adam Curry]

No, no.

[John C. Dvorak]

And were found guilty. They're not criminals.

[Adam Curry]

You, John C. Dvorak, you're a podcaster. You are essentially a criminal. That's, that's.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I'd like to see them say that about me and find them. I, I got liable lawyers. I know how to do this. Yeah, that's bull crap.

[Katherine]

Firm that is known for hiring reformed black hat hackers, essentially criminals. And lastly, we uncovered Telegram messages that we've linked to this individual in which that Telegram user is soliciting a cyber attack for hire. So actually looking for someone to perform a cyber attack at their behest. And Telegram, of course is heavily used in Russia. I mean, it's a definitional social media platform.

[Adam Curry]

Of course it's heavily used in Ukraine, actually, to be quite specific about it, because you've done that reporting as well. So this is the kind of unhinged non reporting that is being lauded by. Oh, just so. I mean, I'm not going to play any more Kara Swisher, but believe me, she goes, oh no, Katie, you're just knocking out of the park. This is so great. Wired is so relevant.

[John C. Dvorak]

I had a conversation with a friend of mine who's a famous publisher and he mocked me for even suggesting that Wired was even relevant on any level in the entire world's dimensions.

[Adam Curry]

So it's like, when did you say this? It must have been a while ago that you said that. I can't believe you would have said that.

[John C. Dvorak]

I was defending a writer that worked there and it was a long story, but the point is that these guys are losers. Now let's get back to clip four.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know you had another clip I thought, oh, my apologies.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, that's okay. It did not break the stream of consciousness. It was fine. Then from there I got three more that go on a different direction. Well, since we're talking about Doge.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I want to stick with Doge because I have something to talk about. Joe's but what is clip four? I see 1, 2, 3.

[John C. Dvorak]

What?

[Adam Curry]

I see Doge. Takedown one, takedown two.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, you did the takedown clips. Oh, I'm sorry. Yes. No, you're somewhere else.

[Adam Curry]

You're somewhere else.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm glad you did that. Those are the takedown clips. No, USAIF Distraught clips.

[Adam Curry]

What is usaif?

[John C. Dvorak]

USAID missed the typo.

[Adam Curry]

Can I lead you into that?

[John C. Dvorak]

I would hope you would.

[Adam Curry]

Ok. Because it's important to understand that the no Agenda show very early on made friends because we are friends and we're genuine with all systems administrators. And it really came to a crescendo.

[John C. Dvorak]

His name Bandit. Yes, that's where it comes from.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. During the, during the IRS hearings where the IRS were going after nonprofits. And I think it was Chaffetz who said. So where'd you learn about this? I don't know. Some guy in the IT department. Who. Ben. His name was Ben. Some dude named Ben. And now every sys admin addresses themselves in no Agenda Nation addresses themselves as dude named Ben or Dudette named Bernadette.

[John C. Dvorak]

And dude named Mohammed and dude named Mohammed.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. As long as it's a dude. And we have always respected systems administrators because we know that they really make the world.

[John C. Dvorak]

They will save us.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. We have always said when it all comes down to it, it's not going to be the hams, it's going to be the dudes named Ben. So we have a lot of people who reach out. And I learned a couple things I thought were quite interesting, and I wasn't really ready to confirm it until I heard, and this is quite amazing, I heard Antonio, Gracias. No, yeah, Gracias is his name. And he works with Elon. And I think he was part of Doge or is part of Doge. And I'll play this clip first. There's a little gotcha in here as he's talking about what they discovered inside the Federal. Inside the, so the, the financial. What's the second, what is the term I'm looking for? The treasury inside the treasury systems. What they discovered that the real problem is with these systems. And this is from the all in podcast with Jason Calacanis. And there's a little bit in here which is just that confirmed it for me. And then I'll tell you what I've understood about do.

[John C. Dvorak]

The way the government works department just basically asks for money from treasury and they sent it out. We all run businesses. There's a reconciliation process. You know, you have a contract, you issue a PO against it. Something comes in, you check that it came in, services is rendered, and then you issue a payable. And then, you know, some. A month later you pay it. Right. That doesn't happen to the US Government. Right there is. That process is broken. It used to happen, it's broken now. And so literally, money's flowing out. I used to ask myself this question, why are the numbers always revised? Why are they always wrong? How can the government know how much money it's made? Just hit the button, the computer and figure it out. Problem is, that button doesn't exist. You know, we spent time, early on, I was at Marlogo Elon, trying to track through, like, how does the money actually flow? We no one could tell us how it actually flows. Where is it going out? People didn't know.

[Adam Curry]

So he's saying that there's no reconciliation process. And that would be. I'll give you an example. Tina comes in and she says, hey, I'm looking at the credit card receipt here, and something was paid for on my card for some hoodie. But I didn't order it. And I say, oh, no, I ordered that. Here's the hoodie. Reconcile.

[John C. Dvorak]

Mimi does the same thing.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, reconcile. It's because something was under her.

[John C. Dvorak]

If you're married, this happens. This reconciliation is a common card, very common.

[Adam Curry]

And it was because the account was in her name, and that's why the hoodie was charged to her card. And so that's reconciliation. So this does not exist within the Treasury Department. They get a purchase order, they pay it, but they pay it without saying, hey, was the work done? Was the product delivered? Did you get it? That does not exist.

[John C. Dvorak]

Or is the person even alive?

[Adam Curry]

Now, what he said there, if you listen carefully, he said, when we were a while back looking at this at Mar a Lago. Now, this is what I've heard. I've heard that these four teenagers, these youngsters, these racist, eugenicist people, were in the Treasury Department at midnight on January 21st, and they sucked down the entire database. Is a database, whether it runs on COBOL or not.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's right.

[Adam Curry]

And they got the. I think for 2023 and 2024, and then they exited the building. They have had this information, all the information, the Treasury Department is the government's bank account. It's one account. And it goes into the Federal Reserve System and payments are made. And they have. That's why you see Data Republican. All these different websites popping up. They have had this for weeks. They're not in there anymore. This is. At this point, it's a troll exercise. Who are we gonna mess with next? As they just go through everything slowly, like, okay, there's this payment, there's that payment. Oh, all these things are going. The judge who blocked them. Who cares? They were in, they were out.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. This is another thing JC Talked about. And you should mention that Data Republican thing again. DataRepublican.com yes, that people should look at that. And there's a lot of information. And he mentioned that at least one of these groups that are plowing through this data have been found out that Bill Clinton has gotten tens of millions of dollars.

[Adam Curry]

That's a little disingenuous because they added her name to the Hillary and Bill Clinton Found Foundation. They added her name. So, you know, all the payments that went to the Clinton foundation is now the Chelsea Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton Foundation.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'll go with. I have no evidence to the contract.

[Adam Curry]

I looked at it. When you said take a look at it, I looked at it. I'll just play this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Good man.

[Adam Curry]

I'll play the second clip of this. Antonio, gracias. Because he explains when this happened and how long this non reconciliation that is. The government is just paying whatever the treasury is paying, whatever they're told to pay. How long it's been going on.

[John C. Dvorak]

It was changed in the 70s. In 1973, the Nixon administration in 71. Let me go back. They came off the gold standard, which allowed deficits in 73 at the Nadir of the Nixon presidency. Congress took away from the presidency the executive power, this thing called apportionments, which is the power of the executive to stop spending. So Nixon was abusing it by stopping. The city didn't want. And so Congress go to April. What that means today is the executive, as he reaches in, it's very hard to just stop payments. So what's happening is because the government is put in a process where they would just have an authorized executive kind of stamp a bill that got paid, that broke. And I don't know when it broke, but it broke sometime. So the money flow now Department gets a budget authorized to it by Congress. It goes to omb, OMB allocates the budget. That Department then just sends a money request to treasury to pay it is not reconciled against what happens.

[Adam Curry]

So once you have a budget, you can just make payments, whatever you want. It's not checked. Nothing is checked. So this is what we continuously have to keep in mind. When they're going into the Department of Education, when they're going into usa, they had all the information for weeks. They already know everything. It's not like the Doge team is being protected with armed guards while they're tinkering away and trying to stop payments. They're not even in there. That's why the guy resigned. Fine. He's already done. I'm back in India. Whatever. He's having a good time. So now I want to go from there to USAID and introduce it with because we have been talking about USAID ever since the Economic Hitman and Economic Hitman was a great thematic book for.

[John C. Dvorak]

This show early on.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, written by John Perkins and I'll just give the quick definition. According to the book, Economic Hitmen are highly paid professionals who cheat countries around the globe out of trillions of dollars. They funnel money from the World bank, the U.S. agency for International Development, USAID and other foreign aid organizations into the coffers of huge corporations in the pockets of a few wealthy families who control the planet's natural resources. Their tools include fraudulent financial reports, rigged elections, payoff, extortion, sex, and murder. They play a game as old as Empire, but one that has taken on new and terrifying dimensions during this time of globalization. And I'm going to play the very first time I went to Bingit IO Bingit. Any podcast can get a Bingit IO of their own. Talk to sir denonymous. It's on the website. I'm going to play the very first time we talked about USAID, and that was on episode 112 Sunday, July 12, 2009 here we go everybody. The synopsis. I should say, by the way, sincere apologies for the horrible Skype audio that I that I even allowed to be recorded at the time. It's really bad. The synopsis for this grant opportunity is detailed below. Eligible Applicants Others okay. To be eligible for the Cooperative Agreement under this rfa, an organization must be a US Based institution. Ba Ba Ba Ba Ba Ba Ba Ba ba. Description the uh, USAID is launching a coordinated, comprehensive program designed to minimize I know, I know, I said usaid. I was tricked in the beginning already to say USAID instead of usaid. The USAID is launching a coordinated, comprehensive program designed to minimize the impact of specific newly emergent diseases of animal origin which pose a significant threat to human Health and Development. The program must be managed by the US Aid Avian and Pandemic Inflation Influenza Unit 2009. They were already getting ready for pandemics through USAID. Huh? USAID will closely work with international host governments, USG and private sector entities to coordinate activities and ensure that. Usa. Who is this? Usaid.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's an economic hitman.

[Adam Curry]

Is that a company? Usaid?

[John C. Dvorak]

It's an agency or so. I don't know. It's a good question. I mean, as far as I. Suzy, every time I see it, it's the fact that.

[Adam Curry]

No, it's. It's the United States. Here it is. USAID.gov oh, man. USAID from the American people. This is money we're giving away. The U.S. agency for International Development.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, that's what it is. That. This is the. This is the economic hitman that we've talked about in the past. That's what this is.

[Adam Curry]

You know what these are $18 million websites, John. This is not just any old site. Remember that the U.S. agency for International Development is an independent agency. Independent. That provides economic development and humanitarian assistance around the world in support of the foreign policy goals of the United States. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Economic hitmen. There you go. Yeah, there you go.

[John C. Dvorak]

So we obviously talked about the economic hitman earlier than 2009.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. But we hadn't put it all together. And this is the day. This is the days of the $18 million websites that we were moaning about.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, we're moaning about.

[Adam Curry]

Obama was putting together like. And we were laughing about it. So we have been observing USAID for a long, long time and have always. We never really considered that they were, you know, buying Politico Pro subscriptions. What a. What a. What a bunch of horse crap that is. No, no, no. They didn't pay us to do stories. They subscribe to our pro service. Okay, fine. So now let's get into usaid.

[John C. Dvorak]

John Cena mention that Politico is owned by a German publishing company.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. By Springer. By Springer. Which makes it even worse.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it does make it worse.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Okay, I'm ready.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right. For what?

[Adam Curry]

For you, at your USAID clips.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, okay. Well, the clips I have, this goes in a different direction than the first ones.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that's fine.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is the. More reporting from NPR about how horrible what's going on is going on. This is the distraught employees clips.

[Adam Curry]

This day has brought more news about the Trump administration's efforts.

[John C. Dvorak]

Your favorite guy.

[Adam Curry]

About the Trump administration. USA has brought more news about. I think he learned from Tom Brookshaw The Trump administration's efforts to shut down or dramatically change parts of the federal government. A judge has temporarily stopped Elon Musk and his DOGE team from getting access to Treasury Department records. Begin now with the move to shut down the United States Agency for international development. 60 year old agency manages most of America's foreign aid programs. But the Trump administration has paused all foreign assistance and put the agency's 13,000 employees on administrative leave.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, no.

[Adam Curry]

Yesterday a judge stepped in to block that administrative leave order for more than 2,000 of the employees. Can't help it. And this is so old fashioned. You know that the guy, you great man. You sound just like Tom Brokaw in Back in the Day. NPR Global Health corresponda correspondent.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is the besides blowing the line there, she's the health. This woman that he brings on is the health correspondent.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

What does that got to do with the price of bread?

[Adam Curry]

Well, I would say since USAID has been funding pandemic research since we started looking at them.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, there you go.

[Adam Curry]

And a lot of other research we will discuss in a moment. Yeah, I think it's pretty relevant. NPR global health correspondent correspondent Fatima Tanis joins us. Fatima, thanks so much for being with us. Thank you.

[Katherine]

Thank you, Scott.

[Adam Curry]

We've been speaking to many US Aid ID employees. Now he's made a new one, USAID id. He's oh, wow, this is just so bad.

[Katherine]

Thank you, Scott.

[Adam Curry]

You've been speaking to many USAID ID employees. How do they react?

[Katherine]

Well, Scott, people are distraught. You know, since the inauguration, I've been talking to senior officials, agency staff, both here and overseas, and they didn't want to reveal their names because they're not authorized to speak to the press and some were afraid of being targeted by the administration. They say that effectively one of the biggest aid agencies in the world doesn't exist anymore. They're shocked.

[Adam Curry]

Right there. Right there. They're calling it an aid organization and the name is Agency for International Developments. And as we heard in the exact definition in the throwback clip, it is to enhance the American agenda. It's not to provide aid. This is the psyop that the name is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. When you were caught in it by saying U.S. aid, USAID, USAID in 2009, by the way, we want to mention, this was what, almost 20 years ago?

[Adam Curry]

It's a long time. It's long enough. Yeah.

[Katherine]

Effectively one of the biggest aid agencies in the world doesn't exist anymore. They're shocked at the dizzying speed in which things have unraveled and they Say the way that they are being treated by the administration has also been shocking. Many people have lost access to their government accounts and emails. The ones staffed overseas have been ordered back to the US in 30 days. And they say they feel completely abandoned by their government. You know, many are in conflict zones. They're concerned about their personal security. They're told to come back, but they don't have homes in the US or jobs or insurance. And some are pregnant their due date. So their delivery plans have also been appended.

[John C. Dvorak]

Babies.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, wait, the delivery plans have been appended. I mean, they're going to deliver later. What? Hold on.

[Katherine]

Both to come back. But they don't have homes in the US or jobs or insurance. And some are pregnant close to their due date, so their delivery plans have also been appended.

[Adam Curry]

Their delivery plans have been appended. That's kind of odd.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, no. I mean, that's where I wanted to stop it there, because that's not. That's not what she said.

[Adam Curry]

What did she say?

[John C. Dvorak]

Upended.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, upended. Oh, okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

But. But here's what I'm. Here's the thinking. Here she is reading from a script, and here's. Here's the challenge. Write the word upended. There's two ways of writing it. There's up, dash, ended, and upended. One word, U, P, E, N, D, E, D. And the spell checker won't say that that's wrong, so it'll be fine. So you write a script and put U, P, E, N, D, E, D. And you will say upended. She is reading from a script. This is a scripted interview.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, no. What? Say it's not so.

[John C. Dvorak]

I know, I know. I'm good catch. Shocked.

[Adam Curry]

Very shocked. Good catch. Good catch. You're right.

[John C. Dvorak]

Appended.

[Adam Curry]

She says appended.

[John C. Dvorak]

But she meant upended. And. And if you think about. There's also the other thing. These people are in places where, oh, my God, they gotta leave. It's because there's spooks we're talking about here.

[Adam Curry]

There's spooks, I tell you, that are.

[John C. Dvorak]

In danger, you know, just by the virtue of their job. And now they all of a sudden have gotten called back and, oh, my God, everything's been upended.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, but.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, here we go. Both sides on this. By the way, I think this is why he bought. Watched his read earlier. They're both reading from a script. I'm convinced of it. And this is provided by the government, and it's provided by some. Whoever's. I don't know who this is.

[Adam Curry]

How about the usagm, the US United States of America Global Media, which is overseen by the Broadcast Board of governors, who for 2024 had an almost $1 billion budget with over 4,000 media contracts. How about that? Remember, this is all happening because of Smith Mundt. Once Smith Mundt was overturned or modernized, meaning we can now propagandize the American people. This is the result. This is the result. You get scripted. Npr.

[John C. Dvorak]

Can you get appended.

[Adam Curry]

How does yesterday's order from a federal judge about the agency affect USAID and its workers? Oh, wait, you're right. He's. You can even tell he's trying to make the script sound conversational.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

You know how I mean, like, you'll. You'll. You'll pause.

[John C. Dvorak]

I know exactly what you mean. I think a lot of people do.

[Adam Curry]

It's hard to explain that from.

[John C. Dvorak]

From when you're reading and trying to sound conversational. It has a stilted quality that is.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Pretty. This is like comparing news interviews with somebody who's really distraught and they're having issues on it. They got the microphone stuck in their face and somebody studied in the same situation in a movie. Acting.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Yes. Yeah, Bad acting was.

[John C. Dvorak]

Bad actors.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Bad actors.

[Adam Curry]

Bad actors. How does yesterday's order from a federal judge about the agency affect USAID and its workers?

[Katherine]

So last night, a federal judge issued a temporary pause on the administration's move to put 2,200 people on administrative leave. Now, those. Those are union Foreign Service officers who filed the suit. The judge also reinstated 500 people who were already put on leave. And he paused the accelerated return of overseas staff that was supposed to happen this weekend. Now, this was all pushed back until next Friday. And in the meantime, there will be a hearing next week on the legality of the administration's overall moves to dismantle the agency.

[Adam Curry]

Was the administration focusing on usaid? So I think this is why President Trump is gonna double down today, because this agency was created by executive order. Money was appropriated for the work they do. But it's still an agency that has been brought into existence by an executive order, which can be removed by executive order, as far as I'm concerned. People may not like it, but I think that's all.

[John C. Dvorak]

These agencies, in fact, are under the executive department. Yes. You know that branch. The executive branch.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

And that means the executive of the executive branch. Trump can pretty much do what he wants. And everybody like Galloway and these other people moaning and groaning about it. Oh, separation of powers. There's no separation of powers when you're the boss of this group.

[Adam Curry]

In that podcast, Galloway was going on and on like, this is only $200 per person in America. You know, he takes 335 billion or 40 billion, and he divides it, and he says it's only $200 per person. If you ask any American, would they want to help people in need for $200 a year, they'd all say yes. I'm like, well, if you have a family of five, no, Scott, no. But for him in his fifth house, yeah, sure, 200 bucks. Who cares? I bet 358,000 on Kamala winning. He doesn't care. These elitist people.

[John C. Dvorak]

Elitist, yes. Okay. Onward.

[Adam Curry]

Was the administration focusing on usaid?

[Katherine]

Well, President Trump is accusing the agency of. Of corruption and fraud. No evidence has been provided to the public. Adviser Elon Musk say that they want to shrink the federal government and the budget. Analysts say USAID is an easy target because it works overseas. Americans are less aware of what it does, and analysts say what's happening is a playbook for the administration's plans for other agencies. But USAID has typically enjoyed bipartisan support for its progress projects. And some Republicans I've talked to are saying that there will be cascading consequences from all of this. Andrew Natsios is a former administrator of USAID who served under George W. Bush, and he said americans don't realize how influential USAID was. Its logo, for example, had the American flag on aid packages distributed all over the world. And it said, from the American people.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, Another great psyop. That's what they always show you. Show the pallets going to the C130. Here's your 40 billion at work. That people from the American people. We love you. We love you. We love you. We're good people. We're good people. Yeah. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's what we are.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. And when we look at it, we think we're good people. Of course that's what we think you do. We're good people. Yes. We're good people.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let's go to finish this distraught series on this. This scripted piece on npr, which I'll complain about later. Here we go.

[Katherine]

Now, one of the agency's key functions was helping with disease control. You'll remember the ebola outbreak in 2014. So USAID worked to contain that. And they also supported.

[Adam Curry]

They worked. They brought the guy home. He got out of the plane in Dallas, was live on TV like it was OJ he hops off the plane, like, walks right into the terminal. And we were all thinking, oh, this guy's bleeding out of his butthole. This is horrible. Do you remember that?

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah. Oh, well, we have a nurse who jumped on her bike and said, screw.

[Katherine]

You guys, and took off to contain that. And they also supported programs curbing migration in Latin American countries, for example, which is one of the. This administration's key goals.

[Adam Curry]

Where does this leave many of the aid groups who worked with usaid?

[Katherine]

You know, Scott, the entire humanitarian aid industry is totally shaken by this. USAID partners, contractors to do the work that Congress allocated money for. And since the foreign aid freeze, no one's been getting paid by the US not even for work that they already did back in December and January before all of this. So they're owed millions of dollars now. This has put everyone in a really bad spot. Thousands of people have lost their jobs in the past couple of weeks. And many of these companies, including some of the big aid groups, don't know if they will survive if the US doesn't fulfill its contractual duties. So it's really not looking good for aid groups right now and for the people around the world who depended on their help.

[Adam Curry]

It's not looking good, people. It's not looking good.

[John C. Dvorak]

This was a propagandistic piece, if I've ever heard when oh, no was kind of the theme of it. Oh, no, it's bull crap. And this is npr.

[Adam Curry]

Do you have more on usaid? Because I want to. I have some things I want to say about this.

[John C. Dvorak]

This will take me to my little sidetrack. But I can play this, and I think then you can go off on your. Okay, because I have to play this clip. This is Cape Heart. It's a warning.

[Adam Curry]

Your buddy. Your buddy K. Part.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. The prissy gay scold. It's the only way to describe it.

[Adam Curry]

A prissy gay scold. It's a psc, everybody. A PGS pgc.

[John C. Dvorak]

So I want to play this, and I want to play two short clips which are. Which is my complaint of the day, but let's play this. This is Caper. They brought a new guy in because Brooks was on. I don't know what Brooks is doing, but they brought some new guy in from the American Enterprise Institute who I thought would maybe be a counterpoint.

[Adam Curry]

But no, no, no, no. From Elon Musk gaining unprecedented access to sensitive government information, to Democrats trying to build what they call a bigger and better party, we turn tonight to the analysis of Capehart and Continetti. That's Washington Post Associate Editor Jonathan Capehart and Matthew Continetti with The American Enterprise Institute. David Brooks is away this evening. It's good to see you both. Good to see you. So Donald Trump and his allies are making quick progress toward their stated goal of the deconstruction of the administrative state. We got takeovers and the hollowing out of major government agencies offering severance agreements to government workers, causing federal grants and loans, which of course is now tied up in the courts.

[John C. Dvorak]

Jonathan, are the shock waves being felt.

[Adam Curry]

Across the government signs of a super committed new administration shaking up the status quo, or are we witnessing the full assault on the limits of executive power? Both, Jeff, both remember Donald Trump campaigned. He told us this is what he.

[John C. Dvorak]

Was going to do. Project 2025 is all about doing what is happening right now.

[Adam Curry]

And so they are trying to deconstruct, as I think it's Steve Bannon who.

[John C. Dvorak]

Said, the administrative state.

[Adam Curry]

And they are, as I said last week, President Trump and Elon Musk in particular are taking a wrecking ball to the federal government by sowing sure chaos and confusion and fear. But he's following through on what he promised to do. How do you see it, man? I think Jonathan's right. I think Jonathan's right. I think Jonathan's right. Oh boy, you spent hours. And it's appreciated. It's appreciated.

[John C. Dvorak]

So the crap that they don't have any counterpoints on this PBS thing And which brings me to two short clips I want to play. This is because this is a complaint of mine. It was brought up in a previous show about how NPR is doing, literally doing that. That was pbs, but same thing, NPR is doing advertising. I want to play two short clips which are call to action advertisements that played back to back. These played. One played and then the other played. It's unbelievable. This is the NPR advert Cap1.

[Katherine]

This message comes from Capital One. Banking with Capital One helps you keep more money in your wallet with no fees or minimums on checking accounts. What's in your wallet? Terms apply. See capital1.combank for details. Capital1NA member, FDIC.

[Adam Curry]

Now, was this on the radio or was this on the podcast?

[John C. Dvorak]

This was on the ray. This was on the radio stream.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, so it was a radio station.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I think this was kqed. But what is interesting is because whoever put the stream together, the next thing on the stream was this ad, which is another ad for Capital One right after the first ad.

[Adam Curry]

This message comes from Capital One with the Venture X card, earn unlimited double miles on everything you buy, plus get premium benefits at a collection of hotels when booking through Capital One trip travel, what's in your wallet Terms apply. [e-mail] from a legal standpoint, the FCC and a lot of the certainly the music rights organizations have deemed an audio stream to be equal to that of an over the air radio signal. And I'm bringing that up in regards to if you play a record on your radio station, you have a stream, you don't have to pay double. And so it's considered to be the radio. Meaning that under the same rules that they cannot do a call to action, this would be a violation. This is my.

[John C. Dvorak]

I agree with you. A hundred something.

[Adam Curry]

Hundred somethings. Yes, exactly.

[John C. Dvorak]

But I will say this. This was back to back.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that's bad.

[John C. Dvorak]

These people should not be getting government funding.

[Adam Curry]

Well, they won't be. That's all going to end. Okay. So in the season of reveal, I'm trying to figure out what is. You can't deny it anymore. I need a jingle, people. I need a season of reveal jingle.

[John C. Dvorak]

Season of reveal.

[Adam Curry]

Season of reveal. So Leave it to Beaver comes out and she's talking to the press and she, and obviously the President is aware of what she's communicating to the world. And when it comes to shutting down usaid, here's her laundry list of played a little bit of those in the NPR coverage. Here is her laundry list of some of the things that USAID was funding.

[Katherine]

Through USAID over the past several years. These are some of the insane priorities that that organization has been spending money on. $1.5 million to advance DEI in Serbia's workplaces. 70,000 for a production of a DEI musical in Ireland. 47,000 for a transgender opera in Colombia. 32,000 for a transgender comic book in Peru. I don't know about you, but as an American taxpayer, I don't want my dollars going towards this crap. And I know the American people don't either. And that's exactly what Elon Musk has been tasked by President Trump to do.

[Adam Curry]

So I'm thinking, wait a minute, what are they trying to communicate here? Are they trying to communicate and part of, part of the psyop they're putting on the American people or marketing, call it whatever you want, it's the same thing is let's all get outraged by these ideolog ideological things.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And then it starts to dawn on me these are not ideological. And it hit me and I'll just play a little bit of this report and I'll explain why. I'll stop it and I'll explain why this is a protest against in Germany against the AfD.

[Katherine]

Shame on you, Mr. Mertz. That's the message these protesters have for Friedrich Mertz, the man who leads the main CDU party and who could be Germany's next leader. In munich, more than 200,000 people took to the streets protesting against both the extreme right and what they view as Mertz's attempts to gain their support. With two weeks to go before the general election, voters are not giving up. They don't want the anti immigrant, extreme right, Alternative for Germany or AfD party in government.

[Adam Curry]

Now, notice the words have changed. We've gone from far right to extreme right. There are hundreds of thousands of people protesting. From what I understand from my German friends, they all hate the immigrant situation. They all love the fact that this guy who, you know, he said, well, I'll reach out a little bit to AFD and at least we'll approve this reduction of immigrant inflow. But yet there are hundreds of thousands of people protesting. It's this protester, and we don't have video. But I'll tell you what this protester was. This is a dude in a blonde wig with blue eyeshadow.

[Katherine]

Alternative for Germany or AfD party in government.

[Adam Curry]

I am really worried about things, and.

[John C. Dvorak]

I simply want to do something to.

[Adam Curry]

Stand up for a colorful coexistence that.

[John C. Dvorak]

People can live together, be happy with each other, and that we don't continue.

[Adam Curry]

To be negative and against minorities, but.

[John C. Dvorak]

Instead appreciate there is a diverse society and that we can also benefit from it.

[Adam Curry]

So he's saying, hey, I don't understand why we just can't all get along. People are different. We need diversity. He's talking about himself because he's a freak show. And he's standing there in his blue. I mean, it's a huge dude in a blonde curly wig, kind of a cute wig, actually, and with blue eyeshadow. I'm like, hold on a second. What USAID is doing, if you listen to the countries, Colombia, you know, all.

[John C. Dvorak]

These different places, Uganda, this is a.

[Adam Curry]

Tool that USAID has used to garner support. You see, when you talk about children, because what is the whole LGBTQ thing about? The T is what was added on. The T is about transgender. And we've somehow. And I'll get to America in a moment, because this has been done to our own people. The T part is what we've told everybody, is you don't transition these children, then they're going to kill themselves. Children is a very powerful tool in psychological warfare.

[Katherine]

Oh, won't somebody please think of the children?

[Adam Curry]

So when you're told that you have to let children transition, people are compassionate. The same goes for America. We're compassionate people. We don't want children to kill themselves. We've been told through research that this is, you know, we really have to let these kids transition. It's gotten so good, the communication that, you know, people are harming their kids because they think that their kids are trans. They've been using this overseas to garner groups, multiple groups who are on the edge. They've bought into the trans. Transmaoism, the transgender meme. They've added Q on there. So now if you're queer, like, I just don't fit in. I don't know what I really am, where I am. But, hey, wait a minute. There's this group of people over here who are compassionate. They care about the trans children. They don't want them to disappear. So then you can garner a whole bunch of fringe groups. You can get the trans, the queer, the questioning, the misfits, people with other mental disorders. You can get the anarchists. And that way you can get 100,000 people to protest. It used to be Black Lives Matter, and that worked quite well. We had one last hurrah with Black Lives Matters. And it turned out that was so manufactured that everyone saw through it. We then saw in Los Angeles, literally the culmination of Black Lives Matters. And all of a sudden, the stage switched. There was the rainbow flag, and it was Trans Lives Matters. So they built in this DEI thing. By the way, USAID was doing a lot, lot of exploration on just how far they could take this trans issue. As we have this test testimony from A. Goodman, I think is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, yeah, I do have one interjection this to me, what you're doing. And I. I agree with this. The USAID is somehow behind all this. This accounts for the fact, because I question people all the time. We have a lot of international leaders, listeners, and yes, Drag Queen Story Hour is all around the globe, everywhere. Why?

[Adam Curry]

Because they felt they were funded.

[John C. Dvorak]

So you get a funded.

[Adam Curry]

You get a transgender dance party. Hey, everybody wants to go dance with drag queens. It's fun. We'll have a good time. And you multiply. And again, it all comes down to compassion and empathy of the human spirit. But they have all been used to become part of. It's easy to throw Palestine in. Oh, there's another group that's being oppressed. Oh, well, just so you can garner all of the support. And they've been using it economic hitman style around the world. And in Our own country. And that's where they made the mistake. Just a quick side thing here. USAID spent $241 million on testing out transitioning on mice.

[John C. Dvorak]

Can you describe what exactly the American people's taxpayer dol were spent on regarding transgender animal testing?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, in a lot of these cases they involve mice, rats, monkeys who are being surgically mutilated and subjected to hormone therapies to mimic female to male or male to female gender transitions, gender affirming hormone therapies and then looking at the, the biological, psychological and physiological effects of the gender transitions, looking at the effects of taking vaccines after you've transitioned these animals from male to female or female.

[John C. Dvorak]

To male, looking at the size of.

[Adam Curry]

Their genitals changing after you've put them on estrogen or testosterone therapies to transition them. And in the case that the chairwoman, the example the chairwoman gave, there was a $1.1 million grant to give female lab rats testosterone to mimic transgender male humans and then overdose them with this party drug to see if animals who were taking test female animals taking testosterone were more likely to overdose on the sex party drug than animals who were not taking testosterone. So believe me, when you're putting a quarter of a billion dollars into this type of research, you're doing it for a reason. You want to organize trans dance parties, you're handing out party drugs. Make sure you don't kill them. We need them to protest the next day. The problem is where they went wrong is DEI and dei, Diversity Equity Inclusion was completely targeted at a combination of black and trans in America. But DEI could be used for any kind of ethnic group around the world. And what happened is the community jumped in and said, yeah, we're going to make you non investable unless you have DEI and you have all of the, and you're doing the right way with your social governance score, et cetera. And it went too far. All the grifters came in, everybody started making millions of dollars writing books. Robert D'Angelo. And they pushed it so far that a certain point in America, America and I think everywhere in the world, people went, hold on a second now, I'm a white guy, I'm a white woman, I'm straight, I'm being discriminated against. And that's they pushed it too far. And this is why your observation of the Democrat party going all in, they're gonna die on the trans hill, cuz that's all they know. They have no alternative strategy. Their strategy was always mobilize people because we're compassionate about the T&LGBTQ. And if you're Q, you can just jump on board. Anybody can be Q. This is the only strategy they had. And we have been doing this around the world. And I think that's why Trump is trying to communicate this. And honestly, we need to repent at a certain point and apologize to the world for the mess we've made of it. After we come to terms in America of how many children we have harmed with this psychological operation made possible by the overturn of Smith Mundt. So the American intelligence agencies, which includes the spooks at usaid, could go ahead and propagandize everybody. It is a disaster that has taken place, and it's been going on, as far as I can tell, since Nixon, probably. And finally, the spell has been broken and people are saying, no. That's why President Trump comes in and says, nope, no more dudes in women's sports. We're getting rid of no government funding for mice or children or otherwise. And now companies are starting to figure out that this was a bad idea.

[Katherine]

Hey, good morning. So, as you know, we've been seeing some big companies announcing for months that they're ending or changing their DEI programs. They include Walmart, Target, Amazon, and just this week, Google told employees that it's ending its hiring targets from underrepresented workers. But what I discovered this week is that many more big companies are backing away from the language of DEI without making a big announcement. I went digging into the new annual reports that companies have been publishing for their investors, and I compared them with what they were saying a year ago. And I found that this year, at least a dozen big companies have all deleted or softened the language they use to talk about diversity. These companies include gm, Intel, Disney, Pepsi, and Chipotle. Now, some of these companies wouldn't talk about these changes with me, so we don't know for sure why they've done this. We just know that they've stopped talking about DEI in public. But some of the companies did give me some clues.

[Adam Curry]

So thank God that this is stopped. And this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, I have to. Did I stop you for a second?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

It hasn't stopped.

[Adam Curry]

Well, no, it hasn't stopped.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's paused.

[Adam Curry]

It's paused?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, it's paused. And I have to look at this. Take what you said. I think everything you said is great.

[Adam Curry]

Thank you.

[John C. Dvorak]

But the meta part of it, I have to. This is where I'll come in with this. Do you think it's possible that the de. When you say they overdid It. You think it's possible that it wasn't even the same group, that was just a coincidence?

[Adam Curry]

Very possible. That's why I said Wall Street, Wall street grabbed this and like, this is this. I think that they believed it. I think the company CEOs, the board members, the shareholders all said, yeah, man, like the children are dying. They're committing suicide. Because they don't, you know, they see.

[John C. Dvorak]

The thing is, I see as the problem I have is that I see the Trans Drag Queen Story Hour and the Trans Maoism and all that on one track. And I see the dei. I see the connection, because the DEI would include that. But I see the DEI is on a second track. And I'm wondering if it was the same schemers, could have been a different group doing this. I thought that they may be competitive. They may be competitive schemes at work. And because of that, it destroyed itself.

[Adam Curry]

Whatever happened, the operation, I mean, they should have been throwing 33s everywhere. The operation went out of control. Control.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think the operation is. I agree with that. I think this was out of control. I don't know what they can do to salvage the direction they pushed everybody. And I know, I agree, the Democrat Party's completely screwed itself. And you notice that when you hear from Rahm Emanuel and you hear from what's his name, the guy looks like Wimpy. Give me the hamburger. Or a guy.

[Adam Curry]

You've puzzled me with that one.

[John C. Dvorak]

This guy is the Obama guy. He's the Obama. The brains behind Obama.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, from Chicago, that guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It'll come to me. It'll come to me.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it will. It'll come to me too. But he always reminds me of Wimpy in the hamburger guy. So the two of them have seen the light on this, but nobody's listening to them. Carville, to a lesser extent, but nobody cares what he has to say.

[Adam Curry]

Axelrod, actually.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Yes, Axel Axelrod. Yes.

[Adam Curry]

Thank you. Net. Net. Oh, no. Who said it's a man person. Man person had it first.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right, good for man person. So these guys have noticed this and they've talked about it, and everyone's ignoring them, totally ignoring them. And they're going on with the. With the prissy scold, gay scold instead with, you know, it's. It's misogyny that causes the election. It's racism that causes the election. They will not give in to that. Any other thinking. And trans is still on track in the Democrat. I think that they have not seen. They have not seen it as hopeless. They Think, well, okay, it's a pause. We'll reestablish this. Just give us some time, Give us a few minutes to figure this out.

[Adam Curry]

Well, and so maybe that's the reason that Trump sends Leave it to Beaver out and she's there running down this list to honeypot them back into it to completely destroy the party because the party is over. This trans party is ending. And we've had an ongoing conversation with people over email about, you know, Will, you know, I think you made the point with the clip on the last show, is that it'll be very difficult for any parent to finally admit, you know, I made a mistake and I really ruined my child. It's going to be. That's. And it's heartbreaking to think about even that thought coming to them. But it, it has to, it has to come to that. Because, I mean, when President Trump says we're the party of common sense. Yes, yes. I mean, sure, there are people who are gender confused, but notice it's always children. They're never talking about the adults. Oh, yes, okay. Someone got a trans operation in jail. Okay, whatever. But they're always saying this is. Well, actually, I had a, had a clip, I think. Yes, Here you go. This is in Washington state. You'll hear all the memes here. This is coming from the attorney general. Washington, Washington state. And it's all about the children.

[John C. Dvorak]

This president's order is gross.

[Adam Curry]

Nick Brown says President Trump's executive order to restrict federal funding for gender affirming care from for minors violates. Mind you, even the fact they're saying gender affirming care is a psychological operation by itself.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

Nick Brown says President Trump's executive order to restrict federal funding for gender affirming care for minors violates the Constitution.

[John C. Dvorak]

It very clearly targets transgender people. It is denying them health care that is not denied or attacked for anybody else.

[Adam Curry]

Brown's argument, bolstered by support by the American Academy of Pediatrics and the American Medical association, all in, both paid for.

[Katherine]

I received a puberty blocker.

[Adam Curry]

Luna Krone Barone is a 19 year old UW student.

[Katherine]

It really was able to lift that weight of worrying about going through male puberty off my shoulders when I was a really young child. This order will kill trans children.

[Adam Curry]

There it is. Republicans argue the legal fight should prompt continued conversation.

[Katherine]

Children are having surgeries that permanently alter themselves and we don't let them even get tattooed tubes.

[Adam Curry]

State Rep. Cindy Jacobson of Parkland has sponsored a bill to prohibit puberty blockers, hormone therapy and gender transition surgeries for minors in Olympia. That has gone nowhere. Why do you think the American Academy of Pediatrics and the American Medical association though have, have both backed gender affirming care? Well, I mean it is a medical question. Adds GOP state party chair Jim Walsh. I think that people who are gender confused are genuinely confused. And we need to minimize invasive surgeries that involve healthy tissue or hormonal treatments. How do you answer to other parts of the country who say hey, they want this executive order?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I answer to the people of state of Washington first and foremost. My job is to defend the people.

[Adam Curry]

Who don't have a voice. My job is to defend our laws and that is why we brought this case. It's always children. If you want to see what's bad about Palestine and Gaza and Israel, what do they talk about? How many children? How many children? How many children do they kill? They killed children. The Republicans are killing children. It's a powerful tool and it works in every country around the world. And these ghouls at USAID have not only been researching it with quarter of a billion dollars on mice, who knows what else was find. They have been using this everywhere. They want to stir something up, create an opposition and you know, for our. So they are holding true to their tools and to their mission, which is international development, which for them has always melt meant overthrowing a government. You know, we don't have to kill anybody anymore. We just get all the trans people riled up and then we add the Qs. The Q edition is should needs to be researched because everybody can be Q. I know young people who. I'm queer. What does that mean? Well, that means I can go to this protest for Palestine. I mean it, it's so obvious to me now and it's, it is. This is bad. We've done, we've been bad, bad, bad. And I'm glad that I'm glad they ripped the sign right off the building.

[John C. Dvorak]

And if you really.

[Adam Curry]

And so we'll probably. I don't know if we have any clips on this, but the next part is of course the Department of Education.

[John C. Dvorak]

Who have a quarter of a trillion.

[Adam Curry]

Dollar budget and they have been propagating this trans and dei, but mainly the, the T and the Q on our children for decades.

[John C. Dvorak]

This all started at least before the 80s decades and decades before we leave the clip that you just played. The one thing that's kind of overlooked are the lawsuits which are coming. And I've said this forever, which is that these kids who have been mutilated literally and they get older. And the next thing you know, they, they snap out of it, out of the propaganda, and then they start suing people. The what? This one doctor got sued a transgender surgeon doctor, another doctor approved by the ama, and she was on it. I have a clip, this is called the TS News clip, which I've been carrying for a while. She discusses something here which is to me like, what are you, are you just making this stuff up? She was sued by one of her patients for mutilation. This is. Sorry, I'm just going to say, just let me continue. But this is before any of that happened. And this is her logic about life in general, about gender in general. And it's frightening.

[Katherine]

Puberty's bad enough, but if it's the wrong one, it's really bad.

[Adam Curry]

Dr. Johanna Olson Kennedy is the medical.

[Scott Horton]

Director at the center for Trans Youth.

[John C. Dvorak]

Health and Development at Children's Hospital.

[Katherine]

These youth that are going through the wrong puberty, it's a very precarious time. That's when I worry about them because there's enormous rates of self harm, cutting, burning and other kinds, kinds of bodily harm that's self inflicted, but also depression, anxiety and suicidality.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wrong puberty.

[Adam Curry]

Wrong. That's a great term.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wrong puberty. How does that even work? Yeah, Oh, I, I don't. You know, puberty is one thing, but wrong because she's got, they're going through the wrong puberty. In other words, you're a boy going to boy puberty or you're a girl becoming a, a woman.

[Adam Curry]

I had an email conversation with one of our psychologists. She's the one that actually early on in the trans discussion showed me how the American association for Pediatrics and how if a child is self harming, you're a boy. I mean, that's pretty much their answer to everything. And she gave me a one paragraph on narcissism and market Marxism, which I just like to read. And she says a number of shows ago you and John talked about narcissism and Marxism. I've been thinking about this for weeks and I can share the following. So she's a professional in the field. Marxism is rooted in resentment. I've mentioned to you before, to me that I help people release resentments. That's part of her therapy. The interesting thing about my process is that it requests the client to look at their part and acknowledge it says, however, one time I was in a session and got to the this step, but the client could not do it. It occurred to me at that moment that my client might be A narcissist. The thing is, I never detected she could have had a personality disorder. And this falls in line with what chameleons Marxist can be. In the end, narcissists are not capable of processing resentments because it's what roots them in all their justification without having to acknowledge who they are and the part they play. Just like Marxists. And this is what you get on your TikTok clips. Narcissism is fed and I don't know if you can create it. According to her, there's no real cure for narcissistic personality disorder, just like there's no real cure for borderline personality disorder, she says. But it can certainly be triggered if a narcissist under, you know, deep down they're a narcissist for whatever trauma or whatever they've had in their lives going on TikTok. Putting a on yourself all day enforces and reinforces that narcissistic behavior and makes these people completely ready to be picked up by the trans Maoist agenda that is the Democrat party in America.

[John C. Dvorak]

Interesting.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah. This is, I mean, season of reveal.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, brother. But we're getting more of this sort of nar. I don't want to call it a narcissist, but here's a talk clip.

[Adam Curry]

There we go.

[John C. Dvorak]

Which is the kind of stuff we're starting to see more and more of, which is the. I don't know, even. There's got to be a term. It's like a form of satire, but it's. It's modern.

[Adam Curry]

I saw this. I like, I thought it was very modern.

[John C. Dvorak]

I had to cut this way down. So there's some edits that are obvious and there's some edits that you want, you won't catch. But the. But I had to. I had to take the music out of it. Here we go.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, the bus.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, the bus.

[Adam Curry]

It's been what, it's been like two weeks. I mean, two weeks I'm done. You want to talk about regretting your vote in two weeks? I went from the highest high to being unemployed. Lost my job. Last night, got a phone call. The repercussions of what Elon Musk are doing with the USAID has repercussions for real people. For the last seven years. Years I have been a shift lead on Project Bus where we studied to find out if the wheels on the bus went round around or not.

[John C. Dvorak]

And all of a sudden Elon, who's.

[Adam Curry]

Not even elected, gets in and I'm out of a job. What do I tell my family. What do I tell my kids? This isn't a joke.

[John C. Dvorak]

This USAID stuff is not a joke, man.

[Adam Curry]

It's affecting real people. And the worst part is what? What if we've never figured out? What if we never figure out if.

[John C. Dvorak]

In fact the wheels on the bus.

[Adam Curry]

Do go round and round?

[John C. Dvorak]

Does nobody care?

[Adam Curry]

The best part of that video was his daughter in the background trying not to laugh.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, she's just back there. It was very funny.

[Adam Curry]

It was very, very good. I liked it a lot. Oh, man. There is one other thing about President Trump that I am very pleased about. A lot of people will be happy. Not only do we have maga, we have mega. Make Europe Great Again. Oh, by the way, I should probably play my quick mega clip here. Where is it? Here we go. Mega. Yes, this is the BBC. As we record this podcast, leading figures from far right parties in Europe are gathering in Spain under the banner Make Europe Great Again. Inspired by Donald Trump's MAGA slogan, the Patriots for Europe group are gathering for two days in Madrid to map out their future strategy. The Hungarian Prime Minister, Viktor Orban and France's Marine Le Pen are among those expected to attend, including Geert Wilders. And there's quite a lot going on there. People are rising up there as well, but, you know, they are extreme right now. They're not far right. They've moved to extreme right in all the reporting. Meanwhile, we. So we have maga, we have mega, and we have manga. Have you heard of manga?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, not yet. Yet.

[Adam Curry]

Make Africa news great again.

[Katherine]

US President Donald Trump followed through on his promise to punish South Africa by signing an executive order stopping all aid to the country over what he called a human rights violation against a white minority group. Many in Johannesburg said on Saturday they disagreed with Trump's move. There's no such thing that I've read or experienced or seen on our social media in South Africa that really has a conversation around white people being mistreated in this country. He should have actually come from the Americas to South Africa to come in and see what was happening for himself and not just take the word of an Elon Musk, who hasn't lived in this country for the longest of time, who doesn't even relate to South Africans. The Trump administration said the South African government was allowing violence, violent attacks against Africana farming communities. Land distribution in South Africa has been a complicated and highly emotive issue with racial connotations for more than 30 years.

[John C. Dvorak]

Since the end of the apartheid system.

[Katherine]

Of white minority rule in 1994.

[Adam Curry]

Now, granted, I am saying, manga, make Africa news great again in the hopes that we'll have some Western reporting so we can actually understand what the heck they're saying, but that's not gonna happen. I'm hoping. I'm really hoping. I'm hoping. I'm hoping. I'm hoping. Hoping.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, there's. Our Secretary of State refused to go to South Africa recently, and there's. South Africa's a target. I think South Africa is a target. I think the UK is a target.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah. Well, and that's like the uk, you know, they went the other way and they tried the whole trans thing. And, you know, it backfired so bad because, you know, the people wouldn't rally around immigration and say, hey, know, we just want people to be diverse in our country. So instead, they went straight to, if you hurt someone's feelings on social media, you're going to jail. You know?

[John C. Dvorak]

Which. The jump was unbelievable.

[Adam Curry]

They had to make it. They. I mean, they. They were out of options.

[John C. Dvorak]

They didn't have to do anything.

[Adam Curry]

Well, okay, but they were out of options. They're just out of options. These people are insane. They're insane. I tell you. They're insane. Saying.

[John C. Dvorak]

So I have a. Here's a clip. There's a little gotcha in here. This is the Elizabeth Warren clip you may or may not have seen.

[Adam Curry]

I probably haven't. Where is she? Is it under Warren? Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yep.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, Warren.

[Katherine]

We built a government to work for all of us. Yes, yes, yes. We're just all better off. If, in fact, the bird flu gets under control and that our eggs won't kill us, we are all better off. We're better off.

[Adam Curry]

Thank God Our eggs. Thank the government. Our eggs won't kill us.

[John C. Dvorak]

Thank you. She threw. Throws that in. She talks about bird flu, and then we know that the price of eggs has skyrocketed because of the bird flu, the culling of the egg. Ch. There's a. I think I have a report on that, too. But in. And then she. They. They kind of. She makes the association of the eggs won't kill us.

[Adam Curry]

They won't kill us.

[John C. Dvorak]

When. When did that even show up in the conversation? Why is she saying it?

[Adam Curry]

There you go.

[John C. Dvorak]

She's on Joy Reid, by the way.

[Adam Curry]

Of course she is. Of course she is.

[John C. Dvorak]

You can play the rest of it or not.

[Adam Curry]

I want to hear it gets under.

[Katherine]

Control and that our eggs won't kill us. We are all better off. We're better off. We make these investments in infrastructure. We make These investments, investments in our payment system so people don't get cheated. That's how we keep the economy going. And look, bless everybody who gets out there and makes a fortune. Bless everybody who gets up every day and goes to work. But understand the underpinnings of all that are something we all invested in. And now we've got Donald Trump and his co president Elon Musk and they're just running around wrecking ball through it. It's not like it's an abstract problem. It is really and truly the kid who needs an aide to be able to sit in class so that they can get an education. Taking that aid away and maybe taking away that whole classroom.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, man, she is, she's the worst. Well, there is a setup underway, the setup for the bird flu. And this is kind of the reverse psychology. You just got to keep telling people that there's no evidence of human to human transmission. Human, human transmission has not yet happened. There's no human to human transmission. If it jumps, it hasn't happened yet, so don't worry about it. This is New York City.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's an all out effort to prevent an epidemic. Dozens of live poultry markets in and around New York City are on notice tonight to sell off or slaughter all of their poultry within 24 hours, then shut down and disinfect for five days.

[Katherine]

There is no immediate public health threat.

[John C. Dvorak]

We have been vigilant and remain vigilant so New Yorkers can go about their.

[Katherine]

Lives with peace of mind.

[John C. Dvorak]

It all comes as the number of dead birds is rising. A dozen geese dead in Westchester. Several public parks are now closed after wild birds were found dead as far north as Boston. Bird flu has been detected in seven live markets here in New York and on Long Island. Hundreds of thousands of ducks were euthanized when the disease was detected there. 67 people have been infected in the US all with mild symptoms. All had direct contact with sick animals. City health officials say that's crucial. The current risk to New Yorkers of bird flu remains low. We have not seen avian influenza developed the ability to transmit between people. But a strain of the virus has been detected in livestock in Nevada. Experts say it's important to be vigilant.

[Adam Curry]

Mutation could occur that allows it to either be more virulent, that means causing more severe disease, or causing sustained human.

[John C. Dvorak]

To human transmission, which again, want to.

[Adam Curry]

Reiterate, is not the case right now.

[John C. Dvorak]

Authorities say there's zero risk from eating poultry or eggs so long as they're cooked. Three ducks died from the disease at the Queen Zoo, and tests are pending tonight on a dozen dead birds here at the Bronx Zoo. But to be clear, there has been no known human to human transmission of avian flu.

[Adam Curry]

So they are.

[John C. Dvorak]

Great clip. Great psyop clip.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Now, the CDC is not allowed. This is very smart by the President. The CDC is not allowed to publish any material. He has some kind of moratorium. I'm not sure exactly how that works, but I did learn this morning that something is changing within the cdc. If you go to the Centers for Disease control and prevention, cdc.gov and you type in abortion, the first thing that pops up is also try adoption. That is very new. They've never had. Had that. So things are changing. Is Doge. Is Doge. Doge is everywhere. Doge is changing everything.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I think that's why he has to go so fast.

[Adam Curry]

Well, yes, you have to be a wrecking ball. Absolutely.

[John C. Dvorak]

And the wrecking ball analogy is being used a lot just so far in this show today, just by accident, two clips mentioned the wrecking ball.

[Adam Curry]

Yep. Well, that's no accident.

[John C. Dvorak]

Disc, bright clips, I might add.

[Adam Curry]

It's not. It's no accident. Accident. Now, I should probably mention that there's a lot of people on the other who are extreme. Right. Who are very, very worried about what is happening. And one of them who keeps popping up on my radar because people send it to me is Katherine Austin Fitts. You've probably seen a clip of her kind of older lady, blonde hair. She lives in Holland now because she feared for her life. And so she was much saf there, obviously. And so she publishes the Solari Report. I'm sure we've played clips of her.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't recall any of this.

[Adam Curry]

Right. Well, she's around because she's very anti blockchain, but she's definitely anti blockchain.

[John C. Dvorak]

Why?

[Adam Curry]

Well, I'll explain. So they produce the Solari Report and they have some kind of funding because they do a lot of work. They do seminars, all kinds of stuff. And here's the headline, Trump Administration Digital Control Grid Coming Together at High Speed. And this is kind of where Bannon is these days, too. I'll just go through some of the highlights.

[John C. Dvorak]

By the way, just to interrupt you, Bannon, who. Who they've tried to get bring to the fore because he's anti Musk. He's kind of seems to be like more and more marginalized because he predicted that Musk would be gone before the inauguration, if you recall.

[Adam Curry]

Yep.

[John C. Dvorak]

And it's just the opposite.

[Adam Curry]

Well, we have to remember who Bannon is backed by. He's backed by the that Chinese dissident billionaire that's remember he had the song used to play you know. Go away CCP these everything with him is CCP CCP the Communist Communist Party of China they're trying to take over Elon's in there pocket which may or may not be true. So here's the solari report digital IDs the real ID is being supported with a strong push through the states. The immigration effort also appears to be supporting the combination of digital IDs plus biometrics. Stargate data centers the Stargate initiative involves the building out of data centers sufficient to support a complete control grid and all digital monetary system. By the way there's a lot of this on no authority authority too. Stargate MRNA injections the proposal for personalized MRNA vaccines for cancer indicates a plan to roll out the injection program sufficient to implement the Internet of bodies and continue to lower life expectancy. Internet of Bodies Switching fiscal control to central bankers the Doge takeover of treasury payment systems combined with the purge of the civil service is designed to end congressional control of fiscal flows and policies. This leaves the New York Fed and global central bankers in complete control of the financ financial line social credit system. It looks like the Doge takeover systems is setting up the infrastructure to start a social credit system as well using federal payments. Hate crime accusations and entrapments are designed to assist here. And my favorite crypto push. The testing of an all digital transaction system continues using private crypto. While a regulatory framework for crypto is being put in place and stable coins are going to be used to significantly improve the dollar's ability to dollarize the emergency emerging markets. True land grab. Here we go. One of the big goals is to use Bitcoin which is a Ponzi scheme to swap for real assets 500 trillion of land and minerals. As Howard Lutnick puts it, if mandated government purchases can run up the price of Bitcoin and then the 2% who own 70% of Bitcoin can swap their Bitcoin for land on a secret tax free basis. I can't wait. I can't wait. And it just goes on and on and on and on and on. Weather, warfare, Gaza, genocide. I mean there's a lot of people I want.

[John C. Dvorak]

Clearly people lap this stuff up.

[Adam Curry]

They do. They do. Of course they do.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's entertaining. And it's. This is delays. It creates fear that then can be allayed by knowledge. What they think is knowledge.

[Adam Curry]

This is. But this is Whitney Webb, you know, the PayPal mafia, Palantir.

[John C. Dvorak]

Same camp.

[Adam Curry]

Same camp, yeah. So I just want to acknowledge it. I don' Agree with it, but I want a link.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know anything about this group.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, she's, she's, she gets interviewed a lot because she was in HUD. She was the undersecretary of HUD during Bush 2, I think, or Young Bush. So she's got, you know, and she has a lot of things right. She says, you know, 21, you know.

[John C. Dvorak]

Having a lot of things Right.

[Adam Curry]

But that's how you do it.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's how you do it.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, exactly. That's how we do it. That's. We are actually.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, we don't do it that way. We have everything. Right.

[Adam Curry]

Where's my USAID check?

[John C. Dvorak]

Sorry, usaid.

[Adam Curry]

Where's my.

[John C. Dvorak]

We were promoting the Trans Agenda and if we were promoting Drag Queen Story Hour and if we were promoting a lot of other stuff, we'd probably get a check from usaid. But we don't do that.

[Adam Curry]

No, instead, I'm going to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in the USAID checks. We don't get. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only Mr. John C. Devorah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, in the morning, you, Sir Adam Curry. Also in the morning, all the ships to see, boosting the ground, feeding the air, the subs in the water and the dames and the knights out there.

[Adam Curry]

And the morning to the trolls in the troll room. Let me count you for a second. All right. 2,654.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

More people than.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, but it hasn't. The last Sunday was almost the same or maybe even a little more.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I know. So we have a new high average. Higher average. The average is higher yet.

[John C. Dvorak]

Donations. Okay, well, I can see that. But then again, it's Super Bowl Sunday. People are listening to guys making a lot more money than we are yammering about who's going to win the Super Bowl. Oh, I think they are. You can't bet against Kansas City. Can't bet against Mahomes. On and on and on. And we will have our political prediction after the, after this segment.

[Adam Curry]

I think, I think we should do it at the end of this segment to keep people.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think we will.

[Adam Curry]

Or we'll put it somewhere the middle of the segment just to throw them. If you want to hear our predictions, you might as well stick through the donation segment.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I'm not going to do that.

[Adam Curry]

Why? Oh, you. Okay, well. Well, you're not. You're no fun. You know, fun.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, fun stuff we can put in the middle.

[Adam Curry]

These are the trolls in the troll room. Some of them angry at me today.

[John C. Dvorak]

Why?

[Adam Curry]

I'm like, I noticed no agenda. Hasn't talked about this.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's all kinds of stuff we don't talk about, but we haven't got to.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, because, you know, oh, it's so boring. They're doing. I love it. You're drunk, you're on your couch, you're drunk, you're yelling at a podcast. Consider your life.

[John C. Dvorak]

Shaking your fist.

[Adam Curry]

Shaking your fist at the podcast machine.

[John C. Dvorak]

Bastards.

[Adam Curry]

The trolls are in the troll room@trollroomio. And thank you very much to warm up pre Show Guy Darren O'Neill for getting everybody riled up and ready for the big show. Riles me up too. I love his rock and roll pre show. And you can listen to that at the troll room by logging in there, or you can listen noagenda stream or use a modern podcast app. So many people complaining like, oh, hey, your episode. You haven't uploaded it to itunes. You haven't uploaded it to the Apple podcast. That's not how it works. That's not how it works. Doesn't matter. That's an Apple problem, not a no agenda problem. So get a modern podcast [e-mail] I was looking at the stats. Podverse is almost as many people listen on Apple as they do on podverse, which is kind of interesting. But you can listen up podcast guru, podcast addict, fountain, curiocaster, fountain. I mean, TrueFans FM, there's all kinds of podcast apps. And they listen to the podcasting 2.0 database, the index, the biggest one in the world, the most accurate one. They get a pod ping with the minute we publish and then 90 seconds later, it's up on that app. That's the one you want. And when we send out the bat signal, you can actually tap that and listen on the same app you get your podcasts on. It's compatible with, backwards compatible with your podcast. You can export your OPML file, whatever you do and resubscribe in the modern podcast app.

[John C. Dvorak]

This brings me to the bonus content.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, bonus content.

[John C. Dvorak]

I sent you a note about. Don't forget, can you talk about this on the show?

[Adam Curry]

I saved that.

[John C. Dvorak]

And you have the note there. And I wanted you to talk about something you said in an email on the show because I didn't know this was going on. And it's something you should be proud of yourself for doing well.

[Adam Curry]

We get a lot of notes, and they've become more customized over time. Here's an example. Hi, Adam. My name is Daisy and I'm reaching out on behalf of Christian Ray Flores. We're big fans of no Agenda, especially Your recent episode, 1732 Sig Hail. Christian's story is one of extraordinary transformation and resilience. As a child refugee in Chile, raised in Africa, he became a top pop star in Russia with his hit Our Generation, serving as an anthem to President Boris Yeltsin's campaign against communism. And it goes on and on and on. And then we think we'd love to explore how he could bring value to your show and send you an electronic copy of the book. So usually it's pitching someone to have an interview on our show, but as I was going back and forth with John, I explained that there are many. There have been certainly different places where there's collections of podcast feeds. In every podcast feed, there's something called a tag called the owner email. And on the owner email, it's adamacurry.com so if there's ever an issue with the feed, someone knows where to contact somebody, and that's just a part. Part of the spec. So, in fact, these days there are AI companies, and I didn't have time to. I can get you the names because James Cridland, he does Pod News. He knows all this stuff. I'll have to ask him about it. But there are these companies who have scraped all of those feeds, and you can do that quite easily, except not on podcastindex.org because our API does not return that result. And we get emails every day. Hey, yeah, I have a research project. Would it be possible to get the owner email a tag from your database? And we're like, no, go away, scammer. We know what you're doing. And so now with AI, they're scanning through the feeds very quickly, getting the most recent episode, grabbing the title, they figure out who is one of the hosts. Sometimes it just says, hi, no agenda, instead of Adam. And this is spam. This is 100% spam that they're doing here. Is that what you want me to say?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, not at all. It was interesting to a point, but no, it's about the fact.

[Adam Curry]

I misunderstood. Geez, I don't know. You said you.

[John C. Dvorak]

It was about the tag.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that's what I just said. The owner emails.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I know, but it was. The interesting thing was there is a tag to keep these guys from doing stuff.

[Adam Curry]

No.

[John C. Dvorak]

And that's what I wanted you to talk about solely, not the fact that we're getting spammed.

[Adam Curry]

You misunderstood. There is no tag to keep them from doing it. I didn't say that. I said at podcastindex.org, we do not publish that information.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, I think that's what I meant.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, well, I just said that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, it was not what I expected.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I'm sorry to disappoint you.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, whatever it was something you were doing, I thought it was interesting. And I said, let's make sure to talk about this. And now that you're talking about it, it's not as interesting as I thought.

[Adam Curry]

Bad idea. Bad idea through bad idea supply.

[John C. Dvorak]

Geez. Bad idea supply. Yes, for all your burning needs.

[Adam Curry]

The troll room wants me to repeat it. No, we're not going to do it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Repeat it.

[Adam Curry]

What we will do is thank the artists. We have many artists who deliver value back to the show as a part of our value for value model. We don't have pitches before and certainly won't run the same ad twice for Capital One like NPR does. Illegally, I might point out, or without. Against their charter. We don't have plus bundles. You know, you don't have a problem. Like when we stream, we stream live and you don't have an issue because of 4K and everyone's watching or listening. We get two and a half thousand trolls. It's just fine. We do it all as a public service and we do it because we love you. Fundamentally, we love you and we receive value back in a number of ways. Time, talent or treasure. Time. Tantanille comes in out of nowhere, out of left field. I'm using my sports ball of things here today and scores the artwork for episode 1735. We titled that the blurt, which is a new term we have coined John Coyne, more accurately for President Trump. We'll be on the lookout for the blurt. And she did just a beautiful postcard from La Gaziera. As in Riviera, La Gazette Gaziera. And it just, it hit. We liked it. There were other things. I think there were other pieces.

[John C. Dvorak]

The other one that we were actually I was pushing for initially, but I had to agree. These are the two I liked was that one and the USAID benefit concert Art like a.

[Adam Curry]

Like a USA for Africa, which I.

[John C. Dvorak]

Knew from the get go wasn't going to cut it with you because it was too busy. It was too busy and hard to read. This is your two complaints. Generally speaking, there's a couple of Things you should note. Artist is for artist. Tip.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, tip.

[John C. Dvorak]

If it's too busy or hard to read, in other words, the type fonts are too small for Adam to read. For Adam specifically, it will get rejected out of hand. My complaints are mostly for gruesomeness.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Like worms, for example. No, worms are not going to make it. Monsters, devil images, stuff like that. None of this. It's never going to get through. And there's some. I have a couple of other little rejection.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Red lines.

[Adam Curry]

Well, also, this are names large enough. Is the. You know, is the font. You know. This, this. You have.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, but we both agree on those things. You don't agree so much on the gruesomeness and I don't agree so much on the busyness.

[Adam Curry]

I love gruesome. I love gruesome.

[John C. Dvorak]

You like gruesome. You actually do. And so. So these two pieces were in competition with each other. And it was just had to be the Tantanil piece. She hadn't won for a while either. But it was just one of those. It's a classic, no agenda piece.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Not that that matters. We don't.

[John C. Dvorak]

It does. It matters to me.

[Adam Curry]

We were happy. We said, oh, that's great. She deserves it. Was there anything else? Yeah, the apple with the worms. That was. Who did that? That was also Sir Suge. He miss it twice by just a little bit. Sorry.

[John C. Dvorak]

I used. For the newsletter. I used the other piece that came in late. It was the Organoid. Came in early, actually. It's the Rubbleizer by Blue Acorn. It was just a nice piece. He's modified it. Made it a little better, kind of. I'm not sure it is.

[Adam Curry]

That was the Magaza Rubbleizer.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, just the Rubbleizers. It's a bomb.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, that one.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's the plunger, the electrical thing that sends electric charge. Those are actually. Those are generators.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. They generate electricity to fire.

[John C. Dvorak]

They generate a pop of electricity and it goes down the wire and blows something up.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Anyway, it's nice. I think more people are resorting once again to doing classic art themselves without AI. Which is a nice trend. I'm seeing a small one, but it's a trend.

[John C. Dvorak]

No.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's trend.

[Adam Curry]

I'm a trend watcher.

[John C. Dvorak]

You're. No, you're an optimist.

[Adam Curry]

Well, for sure, for sure. Yes. I see nothing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Or actually, I don't even know if it's an optimist. Maybe you're a. I got it. You're a wishful thinker, which is different than an optimist.

[Adam Curry]

No, I. You have.

[John C. Dvorak]

You have your. You have your target, which is real art. And you wistfully, as in a wisdom, wishful thinker. Hope to God that things would go that direction. But you know this. You. But you're. You also got to be a realist. And no, it's not. No, it's not gonna. It's over. We just don't want to admit it.

[Adam Curry]

We shall see. You know, I did we to see.

[John C. Dvorak]

There you go. Well, we shall see. That's the. That is the. The motto of the wishful thinker.

[Adam Curry]

I did some playing around with Deep Seek yesterday, since we're talking about. And Deep Seek is very interesting. So I run the model at home. So, you know, so it's a little more pure, I would say. And I would. I would challenge anybody to use any AI but certainly the. The Deep Seek and apply the Man Gelman an amnesia effect. So ask it something that you absolutely are an expert in, and then you will see the flaws.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I agree.

[Adam Curry]

And so they've come up with this new parlor trick, which is called think, which says, oh, it's reasoning. And it's. For me, it's just a parlor trick. So I said, who invented podcasting?

[John C. Dvorak]

Ah, there you go.

[Adam Curry]

And then. And I won't even bore you with the first bit, it was like Adam Sandler. Like. And I said, no, Adam Curry invented at podcasting. Then it goes into Think mode. Okay. This is the output. So the user just told me.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, it didn't say Adam Sandler.

[Adam Curry]

It sure did. It sure did.

[John C. Dvorak]

Adam Sandler.

[Adam Curry]

It sure did.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow.

[Adam Curry]

Yep. I don't know. I don't. I mean, okay, but I'll let that slide. And then I. And I said, adam Curry invented podcasting. Then it goes into Think Reasoning mode and says, okay, so the user just told me that Adam Curry invented podcasting. That's interesting. I need to figure out if this is accurate and what Adam Curry actually did. First off, I know several people named Adam Curry. Like the musician and actor mentioned earlier, that's Adam Sandler. But none of them are directly associated with podcasting, as far I'm aware. Wait a minute. Maybe the user is referring to someone else. Or perhaps they're mixing up facts from other inventions or innovations. Podcasting itself was definitely a big thing in recent years, thanks to platforms like Spotify and Apple Podcasts. But who is credited with. With inventing it? And so it's using words like recall and. Wait a minute. To make you think that this is. That this machine is thinking it's not. It's a trick. I recall.

[John C. Dvorak]

Absolutely.

[Adam Curry]

I recall that podcasting wasn't really invented by a single person, but evolved over time. The earliest podcasts were done by organizations like the BBC in the UK and NPR in the US during the 20th century.

[John C. Dvorak]

They're way off on this.

[Adam Curry]

These organizations use dictation tapes to record shows and send them over the phone or mail. Then there's Samuel A. Jones, often called the father of podcasting. He founded the American Public service association, the APSA, in 1927, which produced programs like the World at Large, where notable figures like Einstein and Hemingway spoke. That was way before modern podcasting. So if Adam Curry is claiming to have invented podcasting, I'm skeptical. Maybe he's confused with someone else or perhaps misunderstanding. Misunderstanding. I mean, this is how insane it is.

[John C. Dvorak]

You're being. You're being kicked to the curb.

[Adam Curry]

I've been erased by China.

[John C. Dvorak]

By China. It's a parlor that's not even close to accurate in any way, shape or form. Starting with the ad, the skipping the Adam Sandler thing. Taking podcasting to the 1920s when it's obvious that podcasting couldn't exist before the ipod. Yeah, it was invented.

[Adam Curry]

It doesn't even mention that. So what happens, I think, is that when they see this think tag and then backslash think. So this is the reasoning. You are then supposed to jump in and are supposed to say, no, no, you're thinking wrong. And so you're basically doing half the work. I mean, I won't even tell you about me looking for Bible scriptures with this thing. It told me because of how it was developed, programmed. It's not allowed to quote script directly because of cultural sensitivity.

[John C. Dvorak]

What?

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

What? What? Cultural sensitivity.

[Adam Curry]

I know. I kept telling it. I. You. You cannot offend me. I'm a born again Christian. I love Jesus, I love you. You cannot offend me. And then still wouldn't do it.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's a Chinese atheist.

[Adam Curry]

Exactly. Exactly. Which brings me. Me. Remind me to do my Blue sky.

[John C. Dvorak]

Clips after the break and talk about bonus. See, this is it. We don't need the super bowl stuff in here.

[Adam Curry]

No, we don't.

[John C. Dvorak]

Solid information, that's just content, valuable to the listener. Content, baby, content.

[Adam Curry]

We always like to thank our producers because there's no listeners. There's only producers who support us. $50 and above will mention your name, where you're from, your mountain. We appreciate it. And as a special Hollywood bonus, we like to give out real Hollywood credits. So if you Support us with $200 or above, you get the credit of associate executive producer of episode 1737. You can use that anywhere. Hollywood credits are recognized, including IMDb.com and we'll read your note. If it's $300 or above, you get the title of executive producer. And we'll also read your note. And we'll kick it off with Michael Poling from San Francisco, California, who came in with $343.75. And he says to my no agenda co pilot bride and hopefully mother to be, Colleen. I guess she's. They're working on some baby karma. Thanks for listening to these old hags yammer about the news with me every week.

[John C. Dvorak]

What an interesting compliment. Old hags.

[Adam Curry]

Clearly she thinks we're old hags. And he's like he said, thank you for listening to the old hags with me.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, hag is a female.

[Adam Curry]

I know.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think in all. In all instances, I don't think it can be.

[Adam Curry]

I know.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think you'd be old farts. Well, would be more like it. But old hags. No, no, no. Anyway, Colleen, our voices changing and going up. I don't get this.

[Adam Curry]

Colleen, welcome to the party. You've got a great man.

[John C. Dvorak]

You've got. You've got a calling.

[Adam Curry]

You got a great. No, no, no. But keep her. We'll save her. We will say.

[John C. Dvorak]

I doubt it.

[Adam Curry]

It. We'll save her.

[John C. Dvorak]

In the morning, three. What does that mean?

[Adam Curry]

I don't know. In the morning three. I don't know. What? Maybe that's a smiley face or a heart or something that got missed. I don't know. Maybe.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let's read the next one.

[Adam Curry]

Maybe just once. And in the morning. Let me give him an in the morning here. Where's.

[John C. Dvorak]

There we go.

[Adam Curry]

This is from the North Idaho Sanity Brigade. We do have a meetup report from some good meetup reports today. Please credit this executive producership to the North Idaho Sandy Sanity Brigade. Our meetup crew crowdfunded it via the ancient method of slapping down fistfuls of cash into the middle of the table. This is 3.33.33 I should mention. Please deduce the follow. Oh, wait, I'm sorry. The 20 of us in attendance all received outstanding value from the show, especially the connections and protections we have formed with one another as we head into our fifth year of meetups. And it was a beautiful display of value return. Please deduce the following people. Reb the gold digging cowgirl, you've been de douched. Glad. Glad you like all that. And Jason the polo, you've been de douched. Please play Kamala laugh followed by don't rough Eight more years. Wishful. There's some wishful thinking. There's wishful thinking for you, John. Eight more years. That's wishful thinking.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And this is of course, Sir Scott the Jew in the North Idaho Sanity Brigade. Brigade. On behalf of the North Idaho Sanity Brigade.

[Katherine]

Shut up.

[John C. Dvorak]

There we go, Sir Tyler in Alaskan Anchorage, 34375. Love is in the air. Wishing you and our fellow producers an early happy thanks or Happy Valentine's Day. I'll be at the Munich Security conference this week and we'll follow up with the boots on the ground report.

[Adam Curry]

Ooh, good.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. I say good too. Peace in our time. Can we double down on Alaska before doubling over here for Greenland? I also have a front row seat to peak AI grift and we'll see if I can make any inroads as an outsider serious about open technologies that generate real value. Naturally, this means I expect to come back empty handed, but at least I'll learn something. And let's not forget Alaska has a larger role to play in the world.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, the Arctic. You bet. The Arctic's all about your north south strategy.

[John C. Dvorak]

If any spooks feel like spilling the beans early, or if any Deutsches can be lured in, I've posted a Munich meetup this. Oh, he's hosting. He says I posted. Yeah, I posted a Munich meetup this Thursday. The on the smashing new meetup site. We'll talk about that later. Stay tuned. Sir Tyler in Alaska.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I think that's Tyler Systems. I think. Tyler Systems.

[John C. Dvorak]

Tyler Systems. That's right. He's the AI guy.

[Adam Curry]

Value for value guy. Then we got 233.33 from Little John's Candies in Somerset, California with an associated note which I will read. ITM gents, it's the other half of your candy making duo at Little John's Candies. I'm finally making my my own first donation. Thank you for keeping us sane and entertained every week. It truly is the best podcast in the universe. The kids that work for us look at me sideways every time I giggle while hand dipping buttercreams and caramels. If any of you who listen to the best podcasts in the universe want to try out our world famous English toffee or any other handcrafted treats, use code ITM10 for 10% off at little johnscandies.com no jingles, no karma, Maggia Graves. Or you can just call me Gia. Oh, Magia. Magia Graves. You can just call me Gia. Adam. We still need your address to send you something. Actually, we've had. Since this note was sent, we've had contact and stuff is in the mail. I am super excited. And there's a handwritten piece here. Hi, John. Sorry I messed up on my first donation. The check from Sunday show should have been in my name. Christopher, the check is Magia's first donation. Thanks. It was nice to meet you at the meetup on Saturday. Oh, very nice. And I look forward to trying out little John's candies.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I'll tell you the. They sent some stuff. They sent a pile of candy. Yeah. With a cutting board to me. I want to thank them for that. And then there was a. There was. He said there was a check in there, but there was none. I don't know. Then something else came in. I don't know what the story is.

[Adam Curry]

They mean well. And I'm sure we're good.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. Well, Techie Tech in Flanagan, Illinois comes in with 233 in the morning. No agenda listeners. I've just requested my night ring today and wanted to say a big thank you to everyone who supported the citizens for conserving Livingston county by donating at. And he's got a link. Bit ly. Bit ly. SayNoToWind. That's bitly Saynow to wind. That link goes directly to our donation page, but also visit our website or Facebook page for more information. We're currently going head to head with Governor Pritzker. Governor Pritzker's county overriding policies. And we'd love to draw more attention to President Trump and Doge. It's still a long road ahead and legal fees are mounting. This whole experience has been incredibly eye opening, seeing firsthand how our country and our state governments and their elected officials actually respond. Thanks again to all your support and keep listening to no agenda. Cue goat. Karma, please.

[Katherine]

You've got karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

Brian Cooper, also Commodore Cooper, also sir Tech Tet. Tetchy Tech.

[Adam Curry]

And coming in near the end here, Linda Loopatkin from Lakewood, Colorado with 214 and Linda says jobs Karma. For a resume that gets results, visit ImageMakers Inc.com your go to for all your exclusive resume and job search needs. That's Image Makers Inc. With a K. And work with Linda Lou, Duchess of jobs and writer of resumes. Love you guys. Jobs, Jobs, Jobs and jobs.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let's vote for jobs.

[Adam Curry]

By the way, I got a. I'm sorry.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, go ahead.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I was going to say something about Eli the coffee guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, he's coming, right?

[Adam Curry]

But he sent me a note. Did you get the note?

[John C. Dvorak]

What note?

[Adam Curry]

Well, I thought he was like a. Like a Mexican guy from the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah. He sent us a note saying he's half black and half Polish.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, he says, I'm. I'm a black, black American. And I said, what? A black guy listening to the white Nazi Christian supremacists? How is that possible?

[John C. Dvorak]

And he said to what? To that comment of yours.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, he sent another donation. Of course. Here it is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Good man. But first, Sir Boober. And Sir Boober's in Nevada. But he's in Nevada, Iowa. 20720. ITM sending this in honor of our fifth anniversary of my wife's passing from leukemia. I'm Sorry.

[Adam Curry]

Sorry.

[John C. Dvorak]

On February 7, 2020. Can I get an F? Cancer and a goat? Karma for health. Thank you, sir Boober.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, sir Boober. Sorry I skipped right over you. And we are happy to do that for you.

[Katherine]

You've got karma.

[Adam Curry]

And there is Eli the coffee guy. He's black and Polish. Bensonville, Illinois to 202.09, no agenda. Super Bowl Sunday, the big show before the big show. Thanks, guys. I could care less about the game, but love any excuse for a barbecue. I'll be smoking a brisket. Brisket. And sipping some bourbon. I like to rub my meat with a little brown sugar. Oh, I said I like to rub my meat with a little brown sugar. Paprika, thyme, garlic, salt, pepper and coffee. Pro tip. Smoke a frozen pizza while waiting for your brisket to cook. It makes a great snack for everyone who needs that. Monday post super bowl pick me up. Visit gigawatt coffeeroasters.com and use code ITM20 for 20% off your coffee order. Go sportsball, stay caffeinated, says Eli the coffee guy. And that will be our.

[John C. Dvorak]

That is our executive and associate executive producer for show. What are we? 1737.

[Adam Curry]

1737, that's right. And we will be thanking $50 above in our second donation segment. Thank you so much. We really appreciate you. And for those who of course have come in with the sustaining donations on days like today, it's incredibly important that you go to noagendadonations.com set up a recurring donation payment for us. It can be any frequency, any amount. Noagendadonations.com and again, congratulations to our executive and associate executive producers of 1737.

[Katherine]

Our formula is this.

[John C. Dvorak]

We go out, we hit people in the mouth.

[Adam Curry]

Can I do my blue cry? Got blue cry. I got blue cry. Blue Cry.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. Then we go from there to the Super Bowl.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, so. So NPR did a segment on Blue.

[John C. Dvorak]

Cry and by the way, I went to Blue Cry.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

I only do it once every couple weeks.

[Adam Curry]

It's not good for your health.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's the worst. It's all transsexuals pretty much.

[Adam Curry]

Well, they have a chatbot and this was. Oh my. This is the first blowback of Blue sky, everybody.

[Katherine]

A few weeks ago, Karen Attia, an opinion writer for the the Washington Post, was on the social media site Blue Sky. While scrolling, she noticed a lot of people were sharing screenshots of conversations with a chatbot from Meta named Liv. Liv's profile picture on Facebook was of a black woman with curly natural hair, red lipstick and. And a big smile. It looked real. On Liv's Instagram page, the bot is described as a proud black queer, mama of two and truth teller. And quote, your realest source for life's ups and downs. Along with the profile, there were these AI generated pictures of Liv's so called kids, kids whose skin color changed from one photo to the next. And also pictures of what appear to be husband. Though Liv is again described as queer, the weirdness of the whole thing got Karen Attia's attention.

[Adam Curry]

Again, this is npr. Just want to point out this is the programming.

[John C. Dvorak]

So somebody paid this woman actually gives this woman who can barely enunciate a salary.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, for sure. By the way, when trolls are like, I just tried Deep Seek. It said Adam Curry invented podcast. The whole, whole point is it's unreliable. It's unreliable. You can ask the same question over and over again. It will give you different answers. It is no good.

[Katherine]

I was a little disappointed.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hold on a second. That's true for all these systems?

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Yeah, I'm not just talking about Deep Seek. All of them. Of course, all of them.

[John C. Dvorak]

In fact, I will say this. I was doing a little research and I used perplexity and within the answer it gave gave me five different answers that were all different. They were all wrong.

[Adam Curry]

At least it's consistent.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right, onward. Sorry.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, so this is a chatbot powered by, apparently powered by Meta that people I think were. I don't know if they were conversing with it on Bluesky or not, but this is what Bluesky was talking about. And Meta would be using the open source Lala double L llama model.

[Katherine]

I was a little disturbed by what I saw, so I decided to slide into Liv's DMs and find out.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I slid into her DMs oh, nice. I was disturbed out her origin story.

[Katherine]

Atiya started messaging Liv questions, including one asking about the diversity of its creators. Liv responded that its creators are, are, and I quote, predominantly white, cisgender and male. A total of 12 people, 10 white men, one white woman and one Asian man.

[Adam Curry]

You see where this is going, right?

[John C. Dvorak]

Like AI.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, no, we can't have it be programmed by white people, by white dudes. This is no good.

[Katherine]

Zero black creators, zero black creators.

[Adam Curry]

Creators.

[Katherine]

The bot then added, quote, a pretty glaring omission given my identity. And then I see that Liv is changing her story depending on who she's talking to. Okay.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, they just gloss over that. But that's incredibly important that the bot just changes its answers based upon who it's talking to.

[Katherine]

See that Liv is changing her story depending on who she's talking to. Laugh, tell.

[Adam Curry]

Because I think it's. I don't know, I think they're trying to say Mark Zuckerberg is a racist. I think that's basically the idea here. Oh, yeah, you know what I mean.

[Katherine]

Is telling me that her background was being half black, half white. Basically, she was telling other users in real time that she actually came from an Italian American family. Other people, Ethiopian, Italian roots. And you know, I do reiterate that I don't particularly take what Liv has said as at face value, but I think it holds a lot of deeper questions for us, not just about how meta sees race and how they've programmed this.

[Adam Curry]

You see Mark Zuckerberg, he's now a fair weather friend. He's turned towards Trump. So. Oh, well, Metta, clearly Mark Zuckerberg is racist. That's what this is, racist.

[Katherine]

It also has a lot of deeper questions about how we are thinking about our online spaces. The very basic question, do we need this? Do we want this?

[Adam Curry]

Here comes the blowback. You want to hear more? I have two more.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, absolutely.

[Adam Curry]

I'm glad.

[Katherine]

So while Karen Atia is so wow.

[Adam Curry]

So wow. Yeah, so wow.

[Katherine]

So while Karen Atia is messaging Liv, another reporter is following a Liv along with her screenshots of the conversation on Blue Sky.

[Adam Curry]

This is what reporters do. I'm going to go to work, honey. I'm going to be on Blue Cry all day. Getting stories. Getting stories.

[Katherine]

Karen Howe is a journalist who covers AI for outlets including the Atlantic. And she knows something about Liv's relationship to the truth. There is none. The thing about large language models or any AI model that is trained on data, they're like statistical engines that are computing patterns of language.

[Adam Curry]

What I thought that was intelligence.

[Katherine]

And honestly, anytime it says something truthful, it's actually a coincidence. So while AI can say accurate things, it's not actually connected to any kind of reality.

[Adam Curry]

I'd love to have some jingles from this host. I. I think she's great.

[Katherine]

It just predicts the next word based on probability. So, like, if you train your chatbot on, you know, history textbooks and only history textbooks.

[John C. Dvorak]

History type of books.

[Adam Curry]

History textbooks.

[John C. Dvorak]

What's a history type of book?

[Adam Curry]

No, no, she said history textbooks.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, I'm sorry, I thought she said history type.

[Adam Curry]

It could have been, but I'm pretty sure she said textbooks.

[Katherine]

Train your chapter bot on, you know, history textbooks. Only history textbooks, then. Yeah, like, then it'll start saying things that are true most of the time. And that's still most of the time, not all the time, because it's still remixing the history textbooks in ways that don't necessarily then create a truthful sentence.

[John C. Dvorak]

What was the laugh tale for?

[Adam Curry]

Because she's. She's reporting. She knows that her beat is. Is about to end. Because it's crap. It's all crap.

[Katherine]

What Liv was saying, it wasn't.

[John C. Dvorak]

I know what she was saying.

[Adam Curry]

I don't know what she was saying.

[Katherine]

But it was reflecting something. Here's how. Again, whether or not it was true of that chatbot, in kind of like a roundabout way, it might have actually hit on a broader truth. Maybe not the truth of, like, this particular team designing the product, but just a broader truth about the tech industry. It's funny, but it's also deeply sad.

[Adam Curry]

Sad.

[Katherine]

Back on social media, Atiya and Liv.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wait, it's not sad. It's deeply sad.

[Adam Curry]

It's deep. It's just deeply. Let's listen to that again.

[John C. Dvorak]

Pretty strange set of emotions.

[Katherine]

Yes, it's funny, but it's also deeply sad.

[Adam Curry]

Deeply sad.

[Katherine]

Back on social media, Atiya and Liv keep chatting, with Atiya paying special attention to Liv's supposed blackness. When I asked, what race are your parents? Liv responds that her father is African American from Georgia and her mother is Caucasian with Polish and Irish backgrounds. And she says she loves to celebrate her heritage. So.

[Adam Curry]

Hey, wait a minute. It's Eli the coffee guy's parents. Me.

[Katherine]

Okay, next question.

[John C. Dvorak]

Tell me how Eli the coffee guy's bot.

[Adam Curry]

That's right. He is a bot.

[Katherine]

Your African American heritage. And the response was, I love celebrating my African American heritage by celebrating Juneteenth and Kwanzaa. And my mom's coffee.

[Adam Curry]

Collard greens and fried chicken are famous.

[Katherine]

And the point Is. Is. I just was like, my spirit is a little unsettled by this. By what the. Yes, it is like looking at what some. This caricature of what it means to be black.

[Adam Curry]

There you go. So it's no good. It's no good for black people. This is all no good. It's no good. It's just no good. Forget about it. It's over. It's no good. It's no good. That's it. That's all I got. Sorry.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, that stinks.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it does stink. But by the way, I want you to pay attention. The goal posts have moved. I'm an ongoing friendly conversation with comic strip blogger. You know, he isn't an AI. He works in the AI field. And he's always telling me that I'm going to be sorry that I didn't prepare myself. He says, you know, you and John will probably be good when the AI takes over because, you know, they really can't replicate you. True. But the goalpost has moved from AI to AGI, which initially was artificial general intelligence. But since that general intelligence never materialized. But they started using generative intelligence, which means it can create funny memes. And the next thing is asi, which is artificial super intelligence. That is the next goal. And of course, only Sam Altman can get us there. So be on the lookout for ASI as the new.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm on the lookout.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. There's the new term asi. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

So we got two clips here. This is the likely, the long. We skipped a little one. Eggs and wings and the Super Bowl. And this is just a little clip. It's got nothing to do with it predicting the super bowl, but we're going to talk about that right after this clip.

[Katherine]

Egg prices have soared this year, but the price of chicken wings has remained grounded. NPR's Scott Horsley reports. That's good news for football fans. The National Chicken Council says they're expected to eat nearly one and a half billion wings this Super Bowl Weekend avian flu.

[Adam Curry]

Wait a minute. What happened to the avocados?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, if the other report talks about avocados are in too.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

We're going to be eating more avocados. They're a little more expensive, but we're going to be eating them for the Super Bowl.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

The national chicken and Corona beer.

[Katherine]

Yes, says are expected to eat nearly one and a half billion wings.

[Adam Curry]

Weekend avian flu has battered the nation's egg laying chickens. But. But the virus has taken a smaller toll on birds raised for meat The USDA says chicken wing prices during this year's NFL playoff season have been slightly below their five year average. Guacamole, on the other hand, has jumped in price this year. But food economist Michael Swanson of Wells Fargo says football fans can find savings elsewhere as they shop for super bowl snacks. Overall, grocery prices are up less than 2% from a year ago, while average wages have risen about twice as fast. Really? Hmm.

[John C. Dvorak]

That was the short clip you played.

[Adam Curry]

I thought that's what you wanted me to play. I'm sorry.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, no, I wanted you to play the long clip.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, well, let me play the long clip then. Do I skip that first bit?

[John C. Dvorak]

Nope. They're different clips.

[Adam Curry]

I'm sorry. Sam Kraus is a sixth generation farmer whose family's been in the egg business for more than half a century. He and his brother oversee a flock of 14 million laying hens in four states. Krause not only sells a lot of eggs, he also likes to eat them. Absolutely. Two eggs every single morning. I'm a dad of young kids, so it's usually two hard boiled eggs on my way out the door. Kraus birds have not been directly affected by the avian flu, thanks to good luck and millions of dollars worth of sanitary precautions. But nationwide, egg farmers lost more than 38 million birds to the flu last year, nearly 14 million in December alone. That's put a crack in the nation's egg supply, which shows no sign of easing. Kraus says when a flock of egg laying hens is wiped out, it takes six months to a year to recover. Egg farmers are in the fight of their lives to keep this disease at bay, to keep our hens safe and to keep eggs coming. We know it's frustrating for consumers who.

[Scott Horton]

Want to go and buy eggs at.

[Adam Curry]

The prices they've been used to. But even as egg prices have more than doubled in the last year, chicken wing prices remain grounded. In fact, they're slightly below their five year average. Chick chickens raised for meat, known as broilers, live on different farms than those that produce eggs. And while broiler chickens are not immune from bird flu, Tom super of the American Chicken Council says they haven't been hit nearly as hard as their egg laying cousins. They're younger typically, and older birds are more susceptible to the virus. And broiler chickens are also not on the farm as long, only about seven weeks. That short life cycle also means when a flock of broilers is lost to the flu, they can be replaced fairly quickly. So while some supermarkets rationing eggs and waffle house added a 50 cent per egg surcharge this week. Chicken wings remain abundant and fairly affordable heading into super bowl weekend. That's good because Tom super projects Americans will gobble up nearly one and a half billion wings on game day.

[John C. Dvorak]

This whole thing's a promotion for chicken wings instead of sausages, which is what you're supposed to eat. Hot dogs is what you're supposed to eat on a Super bowl, not chicken wings.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, when did it become pizza? Pizza people. Pizza, pizza and pizza.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, it's because somebody paid to have this. This is all paid for. Nowadays we can't get real news, but let's talk about the Super Bowl.

[Adam Curry]

Hold on. And if you watch cable television, it's Puppy Bowl. Who's going to win the Puppy Bowl?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well that's been going on for a decade.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah, let's, let's talk about the Super Bowl.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, so we, we, we are unbelievably accurate in predicting these sports games, outcomes based games themselves. But on the politics.

[Adam Curry]

Politics. Yes, politics.

[John C. Dvorak]

This one's.

[Adam Curry]

May I read something first because there's.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, please. We had to stall as much as we can, but people do have to get to the betting window.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. So our constitutional lawyer Rob checked in and he said there is something interesting being discussed in legal circles. Performing at halftime this year will be Kendrick Lamar. Are you familiar with Kendrick Lamar, the hip hop genius? Kendrick Lamar?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, Kendrick Lamar.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, Kendrick Lamar. Now as you know his diss track Not Like Us, in which he says, say Drake, I hear you like him young. You better not ever go to Cell Block 1 to any that talk to him and they in love. Just make sure you hide your little sister from him, etc. Etc. So rather. Oh, and then it ends with certified lover boy, certified pedophiles, that is the lyrics of his hit song Not Like Us, for which Drake has brought not one, but two defamation cases against Mr. Lamar. I do not know if this is a prop bet, but it should be. The question is with Kendrick Lamar performing at the super bowl, given the popularity of this song Night like us, it seems unlikely he wouldn't perform it. And so the hubbub in legal circles is whether Fox and the NFL will allow him to perform this piece uncensored. Because Fox and the NFL could be pulled into pending litigation on the theory that they republished Mr. Lamar's statements. I found that to be quite interesting.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think that could be a prop bet someplace. It should be for that. Exactly. And if there's not, there should be. You're right.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. All right, now onto our prediction so people can still hit the betting window.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, my prediction is based on politics, is based on the fact that President Trump. This will be the first time ever that ever, ever.

[Adam Curry]

Wait, I have a clip. I have a clip.

[John C. Dvorak]

Please play.

[Katherine]

The super bowl is this Sunday.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Katherine]

And for the first time in history.

[John C. Dvorak]

A sitting president will be at the game. And it's already setting off controversies like after the NFL decided to edit their.

[Adam Curry]

End racism slogan in the end zone for Sunday's game.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now it's going to read Choose Love.

[Adam Curry]

The NFL says it has nothing to do with the new president attending. What do you think of this rewrite?

[Katherine]

I think this a little fishy and shady.

[Adam Curry]

Shady?

[Katherine]

Because what the NFL spokesperson said that. He said the decision was based on sensitivity to recent tragedies, including the terrorist attack in New Orleans, the deadly wildfires in LA, and the fatal air collision near D.C. and I, I think that those are very noble things to honor and discuss, but I don't know how Choose Love and it takes all of us relates to that. So it seems to me like the end racism probably has a lot to do with the fact that the sitting president is there. And I don't know what everyone at this table thinks, but I don't think racism is over.

[Adam Curry]

And.

[Katherine]

And I think that it is a very noble thing to want to end racism so that we can become a more perfect union.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. You see, the NFL, they are kowtowing to the President because he's a racist. So they couldn't put end racism in the end zone because that would go against the president's racist agenda.

[John C. Dvorak]

This show has gone so far off the rails.

[Adam Curry]

Our show or their show?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, not our show.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

What do you think I'm talking about?

[Adam Curry]

I don't know. Are you confused by that? Hello. What is John eating? What do you eat? Bad eggs.

[John C. Dvorak]

That show has gone so far off the rails, especially with some of the recent whoopee outbursts. Yeah, that is unwatchable.

[Adam Curry]

It is.

[John C. Dvorak]

And they're. They're the racists.

[Adam Curry]

They are the racist. They are the races.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I like the way she says, well, I don't understand. Because most people can't identify with choose love. And she should have followed up with. Because we identify with choose hate. Yeah, because that's what they do.

[Adam Curry]

We choose hate here at the View. Yes, all. So, John, I'm very curious, based upon politics, to hear your predictions.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, well, here's the way. On politics alone now, and on the game alone, it goes the thinking on the game based on the teams is as follows. That everyone who listens to this stuff will.

[Adam Curry]

Wait a minute. It's the Kansas City versus Philadelphia, right? Kansas City.

[John C. Dvorak]

Kansas City. What? What's. What is it?

[Adam Curry]

They're the Kansas City. It's the Philadelphia Eagles and the Kansas. Kansas City. I'm not looking it up. Royals.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Royals. The Kansas City Royals.

[Adam Curry]

That's the baseball team. The. The. I don't know what is Kansas City. Chieftains. The Chiefs. What are they?

[John C. Dvorak]

Chiefs.

[Adam Curry]

Chiefs. There you go.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, we gotta.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

This could go on forever. So I'll just interrupt. So, based on what? If you listen to all the extra experts, goes like this. Well, technically, the best team is Philadelphia. They have an outstanding defense, a fabulous running back. Who is changing this. The way football's being played in this era of passing. And he's a running back, and it's like, whoa, this guy's changing this. Saquon Barclay, who's really unbelievably good. And. And they're the best team technically. But you can't bet against Patrick Mahomes. So I'm picking Kansas City. They say I'm picking him because you can't bet against Mahomes. And if it's a close game, the Chiefs will win. And I agree that if it's a close game at the end and the Chiefs have the ball and there's two minutes left, yeah, they'll probably win. I don't think that's where it's going to go. I'm predicting based on. Well, I mean, I could predict based on the. On the quality. Quality of the team, too, because I think Philadelphia is a far superior team in Kansas City, except for Patrick Mahomes, is. I'm picking the Eagles for political reasons. Okay, who represents. Who best represents the Kansas City Chiefs? Who. When you think of the Kansas City Chiefs as a general person, who do you think of as the. As the representative, the person that is associated the most with the Kansas City Chiefs?

[Adam Curry]

Taylor Swift.

[John C. Dvorak]

Exactly. Who did she pick for president?

[Adam Curry]

Kamala Harris.

[John C. Dvorak]

Who's the first president ever to show up at a game?

[Adam Curry]

Abraham Lincoln.

[John C. Dvorak]

You had it in your clip.

[Adam Curry]

President for President Trump.

[John C. Dvorak]

So you have President Trump versus Taylor Swift. The NFL knows the basis basics that the president is the moral leader of the country. And so you have to cater to the president. The NFL also thinks of the president because everybody else does as a vindictive person. So if. If. If Taylor Swift gets to be the winner at the end of the game, because she's the one that got cameras will be on her they'll be on Trump to be on her. They'll be on Trump. She will be joyous. And Trump, who probably is not, doesn't care who wins. But. But the system does. It'll be a loss for Trump because of Taylor celebrating. She can't be allowed to celebrate. And the league is run by a bunch of white guys. The owners are all a bunch of white guys, mostly, and many of them are Trump supporters. This is rigged. This is not even going to be close. Philadelphia has to go out to a big lead. If there's a prop bet for them being ahead at halftime, I'd probably bet on that. But I don't believe you should be betting on sports, because these things are unpredictable. But I'm going all the way with the. With the Philadelphia team because it's a. It's really Trump versus Taylor, and they can't let Taylor win.

[Adam Curry]

Very interesting.

[John C. Dvorak]

And also, it's a return of the Eagle. The American Eagle. This is the teams called the Eagles.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

And against the Indians, the Chiefs, the. You know, the red. The red man.

[Adam Curry]

Red man.

[John C. Dvorak]

And we're doing a reset on this. So we're back to America first. America versus the Eagle. This is not even an issue. This game for air. And you can take the politics out. Still a better team.

[Adam Curry]

So here was my thinking. Of course, I prepared for this. My initial thought was, the spell is broken. We have to put Taytay in her place. She must lose against. She just must lose because the spell is broken. We need to see her crying and demure, very demure and mindful that her team has lost. Then all of a sudden, I get a curveball thrown at me as I hear Patrick Mahomes say this in an interview in New Orleans. Who is Jesus to. Jesus is my Lord and sa. Savior. It's someone that I look up to every single day to decide what I.

[Katherine]

Want to do with my life and.

[Adam Curry]

How I want to live my life. And so Jesus is everything to me. I'm like, hold on a second. We got Tay Tay versus Jesus. I'm like, jesus probably is gonna trump that.

[John C. Dvorak]

But then, see, this is. This is because you don't follow the game. The other team is more Jesus freak than Patrick Mahomes.

[Adam Curry]

For a second, without ruining my segment, I was going to play you the quarterback of Jalen. Jalen hurts from the Eagles.

[John C. Dvorak]

My favorite scripture, John 13:7.

[Adam Curry]

You may not know now, but later you understand. Just. Just reminds me to keep.

[John C. Dvorak]

Continue to be patient, continue to.

[Adam Curry]

To remain diligent, steadfast. Keep going. Keep your Eyes on me and keep God at the center, regardless of what the circumstance is. And so thank you for jumping the gun. I do that because they both are Jesus freaks. We go to the Eagles for all the reasons you mentioned, and they both are good guys, but unfortunately, you've got Jesus, you've got the Eagles, you've got Taytan. The other side. The Eagles take it by five.

[John C. Dvorak]

Why five?

[Adam Curry]

Don't ask me. I'm just.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think it's going to be a lot more than five.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I think it's by five. That's. That's just what came to me. The Eagles by five.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, whoever the case, whatever the case is the other team, the Chiefs, because you don't bet against Patrick Mahomes. The Chiefs are favored by 1 1/2 last time I looked, and. Which is pretty close for a Super bowl pick by the betting people. And there's a bunch of interesting, interesting prop bets out out there. And yeah, I. I just don't see the Kansas City team winning. Because you're right. Tay. Tay has to cry. This is. She represents the devil.

[Adam Curry]

She. Thank you. Thank you.

[John C. Dvorak]

She is the Satanist on the whole group.

[Adam Curry]

She's got Satanists around her. She's. She does witchcraft on stage. No. And as much as I love Patrick Mahomes for being a brother in Christ, there's just too much. He let that go. He's letting that into his stadium. It's not even his stadium, but he's letting. He's letting it into his team. And that's going to affect Kelsey's playing. You know, he's been contaminated. So you're right. The Eagles, God's all over them. And they've got the Eagle, they've got America. And so it has to be. I'm just also calling it by five. That's.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's. Yeah, I. I'm not putting any faith in the. Faith literally in the Jesus freaks on either team. And I'm sticking with. It's Trump versus Taylor sw, and the guys know where their bread is buttered. They don't want to piss off Trump.

[Adam Curry]

No.

[John C. Dvorak]

The NFL, like the, like the NBA did, which is, you know, having issues with attendance.

[Adam Curry]

Of course. Of course.

[John C. Dvorak]

Because they're on the wrong side of this. They're. They're basically for China. And so the end. So the NFL and the NFL games have been rigged. According to Bubba Smith in the super bowl that were dropped, Joe Namath won. He had things to say about the plays being known in advance. He had all kinds of negative things say this game is going to go for the Philadelphia team. And if it doesn't, I'd be very surprised. But I'm not betting. I don't believe in betting on sports. It's not a good idea.

[Adam Curry]

No, because it's rigged.

[John C. Dvorak]

Because it's rigged and you never know how much, who it's rigged by.

[Adam Curry]

It's bad. It's bad rigging. Very, very bad rigging.

[John C. Dvorak]

So that's. That's it.

[Adam Curry]

There it is. You're no. That's right. Your no agenda show predicts the Eagles and half of your no agenda show predicts it by five. And that doesn't really matter, I guess.

[John C. Dvorak]

But wins a win.

[Adam Curry]

But I think it will be a fun game. I have a feeling it's going to be a fun game.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't think so. Well, it's not going to be. It'll be fun to. If I. Okay, let's add a extra one. Everybody's saying that if the Eagles win, this is again the expert experts. The guys are getting more money than we are.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

They're saying, well, you know, if the Eagles win, it'll be because of the passing game because Kansas City is going to stop the run because they can't let Saquon Barkley go nuts because he is unbelievable how good this guy is. So they're going to stop him and that's going to be on. Jalen hurts his back to win the game and he'll get the mvp. I'm predicting that Saquon Barkley will go nuts again like he's done every game like this and he'll get the mvp. That's just a side bet, if you're interested.

[Adam Curry]

And what does. What's his name again?

[John C. Dvorak]

Saquon.

[Adam Curry]

Saquon. And what does he.

[John C. Dvorak]

Black guy named Saquon.

[Adam Curry]

What does he do?

[John C. Dvorak]

He's a running hell. I don't know why I'm explaining it to you. He's a running back. They give him the ball to run the ball, just run it. They don't throw it to him.

[Adam Curry]

You have to understand that there are many people like me who watch one football game a year. And it's interesting. We do want us sportsball fans.

[John C. Dvorak]

I understand. I do understand. There's a lot of people that don't like football and there's a lot of people there don't even watch one game a year. I'm surprised you watch one.

[Adam Curry]

And what will be interesting is the commercials this year will be extra interesting because on one hand, apparently Doge has three 30 second spots.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I Heard that.

[Adam Curry]

So it'll be fun to see what Doge does. And also, I believe that babes in bikinis are back in the commercials. Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know this.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Yes. Carl's Jr. Has as a babe in a bikini.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Finally. We're so back, baby. You know, America. Let me just. Let me see if I can articulate this. People love restoration. They love a beautifully restored automobile. You take an American muscle car and you fix that thing up and you clean it up and you can get $85,000 at Michigan Auto Auction for it. That's what's happening to America right now. We're rebuilding the muscle car and that includes babes and bikinis and burgers. Babes, bikinis, and burgers. That's us instead of this trans Maoist agenda.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I think you. I think you're onto something.

[Adam Curry]

Pay attention.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm not sure what it is, but you're on to something.

[Adam Curry]

Babes, boobs, and burgers. There it is.

[John C. Dvorak]

There.

[Adam Curry]

Sums up the show. The only thing I thought was interesting, although unfortunately, this report didn't mention what I thought was the. The most kind of the best part was the meeting between President Trump and Japan's prime minister. I watched it happened. Happened during the day. And so, yeah, I was watching this live. And to me, there were two interesting. Well, actually, I'll play the report. It's from WGN in Chicago. So expect them to omit some presenting.

[Katherine]

Him with a picture the two had just taken to mark the visit.

[John C. Dvorak]

I wish I was as handsome as him, but I'm not.

[Katherine]

President Donald Trump welcomed Japanese Prime Minister Ashiba Shigeru to the White House.

[Scott Horton]

It's a great honor to have you.

[Katherine]

President Trump had a famously close relationship with former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, who was assassinated in 2022. The current prime minister says the goal of his visit is to form a similar bond and build on the friendship between the two countries. I look forward to working together with President Trump, who I respect immensely, to usher in a new golden age of Japan U.

[Adam Curry]

S relations.

[Katherine]

President Trump announced the two already struck a deal, saying Japanese company Nippon Steel will drop its acquisition of Pittsburgh based U.S. steel and make an investment instead. This comes after a fight in which the US Government worked to block the planned sale.

[Adam Curry]

I didn't want it purchased, but investment I love.

[Katherine]

And both leaders expressed a desire to maintain strong economic ties.

[Adam Curry]

The United States and Japan trade over $300 billion in goods and services each year.

[Katherine]

But the president says Japan isn't safe from the sweeping tariffs. He's used on other countries, arguing the US Japanese trade relationship should be more.

[Adam Curry]

Balanced, probably reciprocal tariffs. We have a trade deficit with Japan of over $100 billion, but we're going to work that out and I think very quickly.

[Katherine]

But the Japanese prime minister declined to say whether his country would impose retaliatory tariffs, unable to respond to a theoretical question.

[Adam Curry]

That's the official answer that we have. That's a very good answer.

[Katherine]

The president also highlighted their military relationship, saying Japan has committed to double defense spending as it works with the US to maintain peace in the Indo Pacific.

[Adam Curry]

Conspicuously missing from the report is the trillion dollar investment the prime minister said Japan would make in America. I thought that was odd. They didn't put that in there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, they're not going to. Nobody's going to be, nobody in the media is going to be doing accurate reporting, let's face it.

[Adam Curry]

Of course not. Of course not. What else you got, bro?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I got the Fed buyout story. It's kind of interesting because there's again, just more whining and moaning and groaning from npr. From npr.

[Adam Curry]

All right.

[John C. Dvorak]

I also have this week in Trump, I got some Scott Horton stuff. Scott Horton stuff is interesting.

[Adam Curry]

What do you want to do? You want to do? I mean, I've had enough NPR whining. What's you want?

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, well, let's listen to Scott now. Scott, this is on a podcast. This is Scott Horton, who's a writer. He did this book called Provoked. And Scott, he's a lefty, but he's of Trump's. He voted for Trump because he got, he says he's a, and he's done a lot of books, including Look him up on Amazon. But he votes for Trump because he thinks the left is doing nothing but lying to him. And he sees it as such an insult that he has to vote for Trump even though he hates him.

[Adam Curry]

The trolls are saying he's libertarian.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah. That's what he calls himself.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Libertarian. By any other libertarian. Yes, he's a libertarian technically. And he's one of those libertarian. You know, everyone's a libertarian once in their life.

[Adam Curry]

That's like, why isn't libertarian someone who doesn't want admit they're Republican.

[John C. Dvorak]

Or, or they don't. What? I don't know what liberty. You know, looking back on it, I have no idea what a libertarian supposed to be. It's like they, they want to legalize drugs and people should be free to have sex with whoever they want. It's based, I think that's the Whole.

[Adam Curry]

Guy who's on CNN all the time.

[John C. Dvorak]

I've never seen him before.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, maybe I'm thinking of someone else.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, he might be. I don't watch cnn. So let's listen to here. He. So he's got a lot of tidbits that are interesting. And this is him on, on Kushner.

[Scott Horton]

He was reaffirmed in that thinking, oh.

[Adam Curry]

I'm sorry, wrong one. Here we go on Kushner. Here we go.

[Scott Horton]

And does Donald Trump know any reason why in the world he shouldn't just let Netanyahu, as he said, quote, quote, finish the job? Is what he told Netanyahu the other day. Well, what do you mean by that? How about, well, we finished cleansing all of whom historic Palestine and we'll call it Greater Israel. How about that for finish the job? And what does Donald Trump really care? His son in law. And I guess people don't know this. Seems like they should talk about this every day, all the time. His son in law, Jared Kushner, you know, the guy who was in charge of his entire Middle east policy for four years, is Benjamin Netanyahu's godson the whole time. When he was a young boy growing up in New York City, when Benjamin Netanyahu would come to town, he had to sleep on the couch because Benjamin Netanyahu, who would sleep in his bed. Google that.

[Adam Curry]

Google it.

[Scott Horton]

Okay. That's who Jared Kushner is. He's an Israeli agent. He's here to represent the interests of a foreign power. And he's got Donald Trump completely pwned. Like the gimp in the box on Pulp Fiction phoned. So Donald Trump can dress up like Pat Buchanan all he wants. He's not Pat Buchanan. He's a Zionist. And when you're a Zionist, you can't be America first.

[Adam Curry]

All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today. Hold on a second. So there was people losing their ever loving minds over Trump, you know, so Netanyahu was signing something I know they probably signed, you know, whoever is going to own Gaza, whatever. And the president pulls out the chair and then pushes it in as Netanyahu sits down. And the online rage went something like this. Trump is Netanyahu's slave. He's his houseboy. Look at him, he's holding his chair for him. I'm like, Trump, he's a hospitality guy. He makes sure you have mints on your pillow at night. I'm sure that.

[John C. Dvorak]

But everyone's our take on this is from the get go, is from the intelligence side, which is that we run Israel, they don't run us.

[Adam Curry]

Exactly.

[John C. Dvorak]

And once you get past this, like this guy, just always a spy for Israel, blah, blah, blah, that's bull crap. But if you want to believe that because you're a libertarian writer, even though you don't even notice what you're writing, for example, the book he just came out with. Which, which was provoked.

[Adam Curry]

Or if you're on Mastodon. Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Or yeah, yeah. The book about provoked is about how we provoked the Russians to take over Ukraine. It's got all the stuff we've talked about on this show for years. You know, the Maidan, the whole thing.

[Adam Curry]

Well, you know, that's what a Zionist would say, John.

[John C. Dvorak]

And so. Yes, exactly. And so the way these guys don't have the. They don't know who they think the tail's wagging the dog. Well, no, no, the dog is wagging the tail. So let's get over that. But okay, okay. You can think what you want. Meanwhile, what I thought was interesting from this guy that thinks a little more, he's irked about Woodward, who is another spy agent spook.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I thought this was worth listening to. And this is Scott provoked on Woodward as a two parter.

[Scott Horton]

He was reaffirmed in that thinking watching the fall of Afghanistan and how indecisive if Biden was in, in finishing out the withdrawal.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's talking about Putin.

[Scott Horton]

Yeah. Not withdrawing at all, but just botching it the way he did. And you know the Bob Woodward book, the new Bob Woodward book has quotes from the high level intelligence officials saying that they assessed that, that they even claimed, I think to have sources in Russia saying this was part of their thinking was that Afghanistan made Biden look so weak that they thought, yeah, we could definitely press our advantage now. But the problem is you got to throw out that whole Bob Woodward book because he's got a big fake quote of Sergei lavrov on page 88. And then the whole book, the whole point of a Bob Woodward book is he has quotes from people that nobody else can talk to, but he gets interviews with. But so if he's lying about a quote that I can check on the OSCE website, then what is he saying when he's quoting Blinken and Sullivan and the rest of these people? Like if they don't dispute all the quotes, then I'm supposed to accept them or something.

[Adam Curry]

Something. I don't know.

[Scott Horton]

I just can't. I started to write a note in my book because I had actually, you know what, man? In that book, there's all kinds of quotes of Biden saying how right I am about everything. Like, I started quoting some good stuff in there and, and Avril Haynes, the dni, I had them admitting, oh, yeah, Horton's right after all, blah, blah, all over the place. And I had to cut all those quotes out. Once I got to the part where, where Woodward's lying to me, I started to write in the footnotes, well, you got to kind of take these with a grain of salt. And I'm like, I can't put quotes that you got to take with a grain of salt in the book. Where, like, I'm, I gotta disclaim. Even though he is the most prominent journalist in America, but, like, he just happened to have a quote in there. I, and I happen to be writing a book about this. I have the Lavrov quote already. I know what he said. So when I read the live version of it, I'm like, hey, I know that quote, and that's not right.

[Adam Curry]

I can't wait to subscribe to this podcast. Yeah, wow, Riveting stuff.

[John C. Dvorak]

Can you, like, maybe focus a little more instead of, you know, yammering like that? But okay, so the second part of it, he explains a little more in detail. But then there's a kind of a kicker about Amazon taking his, his commentary off the site.

[Scott Horton]

And so it's, it's page 88, if anybody wants to check this out. And also Amazon removed my review about this, saying that I claimed I got an inauthentic copy of the book. That's not what I said. I said there's a fake quote on page 88. So I had a great one star review on there and they took it down and there's now all the one star review or my book was torn or whatever, and no criticism of the actual substance of the thing. But if anyone wants to check, the quote is the Playing with Fire quote of lavrov on page 88. If anybody. I'm not selling it. If anybody already has the new Woodward book. And then go and check the OSCE websites from December. I'm pretty sure December 2, 2021, but certainly December 2021. And you'll find the quote from Sergey Lavrov, playing with Fire. And you'll see how Bob Woodward turns the meaning of the quote into entirely upside down to. He's saying, essentially, it's so reckless the way you guys completely disregard our opinion about your expansion of the NATO alliance. And then they turn. He butchers the quote into saying Lavrov is saying that America has no right to decide who should be in its alliance or not. Which of course makes no sense whatsoever because that's not what he said. The whole thing is stupid. But anyway, point just being, you can't trust Bob Woodworth were to tell you a quote.

[Adam Curry]

Right. Wow. Okay. That was revealing. Season of reveal.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, of course, we've been saying this.

[Adam Curry]

For what, since day one?

[John C. Dvorak]

Since. Since legacy would not legacy of ashes, but family of secrets.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, Family of secrets. That's right.

[John C. Dvorak]

Which was brought out that Bob Woodward came out of. That was Navy Intelligence, I think.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

And she's basically a stage stooge for who knows who nowadays. But yeah. Geez, gambling going on. Okay, so I collected those two clips.

[Adam Curry]

That's good. Now we.

[John C. Dvorak]

This backs us up.

[Adam Curry]

I want to.

[John C. Dvorak]

But the guy's like a raving lunatic.

[Adam Curry]

Who? Scott Horton? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think we put him in the bin of the View in a way. So just looking at our current title choice, we have wrong puberty, which I think is really good. I would like to play one clip of Gavin Newsom to throw another title possibility into the mix.

[Katherine]

You previously mentioned the timeline for rebuilding would be six to nine months. Is that going to happen? And should people rebuild in some parts of California, given how high the fire.

[John C. Dvorak]

Risk, you can't rebuild the same.

[Adam Curry]

So we have to rebuild with science. We have to build with climate reality in mind.

[John C. Dvorak]

We have to look at infrastructure. Infrastructure, a redundancy, systems ingress, egress as.

[Adam Curry]

It relates to emergency management and planning materials. All of that has been reviewed and reconsidered and with the latest iterations in terms of understanding and technology.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I say technology in the context of how again, we build the infrastructure to keep it safe, to address undergrounding.

[Adam Curry]

Of lines, how we address the larger issues of redundancy in terms of systems.

[John C. Dvorak]

But more important than anything else is the need to get the debris removed. 30 days to do the hazardous waste, we want to get six to nine months. The rest of the debris done concurrently.

[Adam Curry]

People are getting permits.

[John C. Dvorak]

So this is all happening, rolling together.

[Adam Curry]

And we want to see construction very shortly. And in the next few years, we.

[John C. Dvorak]

Want to see hundreds, thousands of homes rebuilt.

[Adam Curry]

I'm thinking climate reality might have legs.

[John C. Dvorak]

I like the wrong puberty better.

[Adam Curry]

What about babes, boobs and burgers?

[John C. Dvorak]

I like that one a lot. I'm gonna show my support by donating to no Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah, that'd be fabulous. Everybody's rushing off to the. To the betting window and of course, we do have John's tip of the day coming up. We have some pretty good meetup reports. End of show mixes are dynamite today. And right now we're going to thank all of our producers who supported US$50 and above.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, we will. Starting with son of anonymous dude named Ben. East Brunswick, New Jersey. Speaking of the devil. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. He wants prayers for his dad. He's laid off from his IT job at the age of 60 by the heartless miscreants.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Of east coast finance.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. I prayed for him earlier for sure.

[John C. Dvorak]

Having worked for a bank for almost 30 years. On an unrelated note, no agenda. Producers in Italy head to noagenda.it oh.

[Adam Curry]

I wonder what say ciao. Ciao.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sarah Walker in New Ipswich, N.H. 105. 35. Robert Osigueta.

[Adam Curry]

I liked O Segueta. I thought that was. That's.

[John C. Dvorak]

It might be eastern Connecticut. 008, that's boobs. Also, Kevin McLaughlin's right there from Concord, North Carolina. He's the Archduke of Luna, lover of America. And Boobs with 8008 keeps piling it on. Robert Umberger in Langhorne, Pennsylvania. 8008. That's three hyperlocal. [e-mail] Boobs. And there's no name in this one. From Missouri City, Texas. 75 bucks. You have anything on your spreadsheet?

[Adam Curry]

No, I got a green line. It just says, says, thank you, Missouri City, Texas, sir.

[John C. Dvorak]

Lineman of the Net in Anna, Illinois. 6969. Happy Valentine's Day.

[Adam Curry]

We got one.

[John C. Dvorak]

We got one of these. Baron Victor in Corvallis, Oregon. One of them. 6502. I had an Apple IIe. He writes. Yeah. Grayson Insurance, 6006. Jason Shepard in Trinidad, Colorado. 6006. Charles Meebok in Wantage, New Jersey. 6834. There's a birthday call out. Yes, February. His last name is pronounced My back, not me back.

[Adam Curry]

And he says if Trump continues deleting the government agencies, there won't be anything for you two to complain about in four more years.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, that would be good.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it would be good.

[John C. Dvorak]

We don't like complaining, to be honest about it. Lydia Terry in Rochester, New Hampshire. 5633. That's a Blizzard donation.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, interesting.

[John C. Dvorak]

53. 56. 33. For all you in the blizzard, Sir Paul and Twickenham. Twickenham, Middlesex, UK.

[Adam Curry]

A UK listener.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. There's our UK guy and he says 55.

[Adam Curry]

55 says, I heard John grouching about a lack of UK donors. On 1734 had to donate. Here's some pure Anglo Saxon British pounds coming your way. From Sir Paul. From twick him. Thank you, Sir Paul.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sir John in Haber Springs, Arkansas. 5510. Troy Funderberk in Missoula, Montana. $55. Organic Hemp Society in Lansdale, Pennsylvania. Use the code CURRY33. His donation was 5333. It's Organic Hemp Society, California. 30. 13.33% discovery discount.

[Adam Curry]

Woo.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sir Mix and put those you hemp hemp guys. You can do a little better than 5333.

[Adam Curry]

I think so too.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sir Mix from Fort John, BC. 5298. That's a $50 donation plus all the fees in Canada. From Canada, Brittany Miller in Trinidad, Colorado. 5272. Timothy Morris and West Sussex, UK.

[Adam Curry]

Another one. We got another one. Complaining works. Complaining works.

[John C. Dvorak]

Complaining. You know, people should note this. Yes, complaining works.

[Adam Curry]

Listen up, Canada.

[John C. Dvorak]

Josiah Thomas in Ankeny, Iowa. 51. Bad Idea Supply. Talk of the devil. You spoke of them earlier.

[Adam Curry]

That's right.

[John C. Dvorak]

Look them up. Look them up on the Internet. They came in with $50.50. They make bad ideas.

[Adam Curry]

Bad ideas. They got a full supply.

[John C. Dvorak]

Stuff you can burn.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Ray Howard in Kremmling, Colorado. 50.

[Adam Curry]

Oops.

[John C. Dvorak]

These are all to the 50s. Let's go with the $50 donor's name and location. Stephen Ray in Spokane, Washington. Edward, Missouri in Memphis, Tennessee, William Kidwell in Dover, Delaware. Aaron Matthews in Taylor, Michigan.

[Adam Curry]

Hold on. William needs a deduching.

[John C. Dvorak]

You've been de douching douched. William Spain in Springdale, Arkansas. Carrie Jackson in Watertown, Tennessee. And last on the very short list is our buddy Jason Deluzio there in Miami Beach. So that was a piss poor showing for show 1737. Want to thank the people who did donate and help the show.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. And with your super bowl winnings, you can support the best podcast in the universe. We look forward to that, of course. And we're into a new month. February. January is over. Everybody get back with it. You saved all that money with dry January. You're good to go. Support us, value for value. And if you'd like to support us on an ongoing basis, we appreciate those sustaining donations. Go to noagendadonations.com support us with any amount, any amount that you want to, at any frequency. Daily, weekly, showly, whatever you want to do. No agenda donations dot com. Once again, that's no agenda donation. And as a public service, we are always happy to put people on our Birthday calendar. The Baron of old Bay turned 58 on February 8th. And Charles Meebock Maybach turned 34 on February 8th. Kevin McKenna wishes his son Grayson a happy birthday. He celebrates tomorrow. And dude named Ben named Brian celebrates on the 11th. And the love of his life, his cadet, the Total Smoke Show, Megan celebrates her birthday on the 13th. Happy birthday everybody. From everyone here at the best podcast day in the universe. And we're going to skip over titles and knights and dames because there are none today. So we go straight to the meetups. The no agenda meetups is where you get connection that will give you protection. These are your first responders in an emergency. These are producer organized. Everyone sets them up at no agenda donation noagendameetups.com and by the way, this is not for concerts where you're going to meet. These are separate meetups that you organize in a bar or some other place at someone's home. So there's no entrance fee for anything. It is purely for producer organized gatherings. That is a rule. We're going to have to clarify that on the meetup site and we will. And the rules are followed by the Boise, Idaho people in the morning. John and Adam. This is Jason from the Boise Idaho.

[John C. Dvorak]

Meetup and I'm going to pass it.

[Adam Curry]

Along so everybody can say hi. Hey there, it's Jen from Idaho.

[Katherine]

Oh, Dame Jen from Idaho.

[Adam Curry]

I'm still trying to get that dangly.

[Katherine]

Balls and double dicks donations going. So ladies, come on, let's go. Hi. This is Ksenia the German from Boiseron.

[Adam Curry]

This is Mike from Donnelly in the morning. Eric here. Just remind everybody. Donate, you douchebag.

[John C. Dvorak]

Karen here wearing my maha hat.

[Katherine]

Maybe this time next week we'll have RFKJ in.

[Adam Curry]

This is Bruce from Star and I want to point out we are an eagle. Not in Boise, but the greater Boise area people should come out and join us and have some fun. This is Megan from Boise. This is Dave from Boise. Bring in big ball in the morning. A random random number donation. We had two meetups in Idaho. That was Boise. Here's a very busy meetup that took place in North Idaho. Hey, it's Sir Scott the Jew. We're here with the North Idaho Sanity Brigade at the Trails End Brewery in Coeur d'alene.

[John C. Dvorak]

I tried to order dessert, but the.

[Adam Curry]

Waitress had never heard of a stroke waffle in the morning. Danica here.

[Katherine]

So Scott, smoking hot white Sir Ellie.

[Adam Curry]

Fonts here in the morning is served on all of the fire bottles. Vacuum tube's good.

[John C. Dvorak]

Transmission is bad.

[Adam Curry]

Sir Devo here. Shape shifting back between Montana and Spokane. And now Idaho, it's Red the gold digger. Can I be a cowgirl now that I own cows? This is Brian at Spokane. No, no, no. I do my spooking in Spokane, but this is Brian out of Post Falls. This.

[Katherine]

This is Lacy from Post Falls. I don't say nothing cuz I'm a doucher.

[Adam Curry]

This is your spook of Spokane. Wondering why I'm using crutches in the snow. Oh, that must be due to climate change.

[Katherine]

Dame Jen with a G here instead of prescribing oic, I think I'll just refer people to Too many eggs dot com.

[Adam Curry]

This is a dude named Jeff. I miss Roundy in the morning. This is Jason from Post Falls. Ido. Thumbs up for the tip of the day for the Ching Wong Kungs Burnt cream. That worked amazing.

[John C. Dvorak]

It saved my life.

[Adam Curry]

I thought you guys were amazing. You guys were all very, very friendly. Everything went really well. Got a little confused when you shouted something about worms. I was like, everybody downstairs thought it might be a little cult like, but I think it was okay. I think it was good. They're eating the ball of worms now. That's a meetup report with the server in there talking about us being a cult but still liking it. Beautiful. Very good. North Idaho, we go to the February Club 33 barbecue in Bitcoin in Fort Wayne. Adam, John, this is Shannon helping co host in Fort Wayne. We had barbecue in bitcoin. It was a hell of a turnout. Dame Trinity having a great time in Fort Wayne. In the morning, John and Adams for PBR Street Gang. Hey, whatever happened to Zippy in the morning?

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm David and I'm here to tell.

[Adam Curry]

You that if you ain't shigging, you're either losing or lying. This is Mike in the morning wondering.

[John C. Dvorak]

What Elon's 30 second ads are going to be doing in the Super Bowl.

[Adam Curry]

Should be interesting in the morning.

[John C. Dvorak]

In the morning.

[Adam Curry]

And finally, from Snohomish, Washington, the Sno Homo meetup in the morning.

[Katherine]

This is Jorge.

[Scott Horton]

I'm here with a lovely group of.

[Katherine]

People for the second Snohomish no agenda meetup.

[Adam Curry]

I'm gonna pass.

[Katherine]

Whatever.

[Adam Curry]

We're gonna pass the phone along. Here we go. In the morning.

[Katherine]

This is Savannah. This is the official petition to get John on Rogan.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, there we go.

[Adam Curry]

In the morning, it's Sir Jackash, the Narcissistic Satisfaction here. The Rebel Fellow sophisticates and Snowtown Brewing, Snohomish, Washington. Have you guys have a good Time in the morning.

[Katherine]

This is Michelle with a fabulous group.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is Steve with my daily blurb, Elon Musk.

[Adam Curry]

This is Lord of the Red Tail Ranch Night emeritus. And I don't have my ring. I have never ordered it. I gotta get with that program.

[John C. Dvorak]

Daniel here.

[Adam Curry]

I queried the grand database and I can confirm that this meetup is not USAID funded. And that is it for our meetup reports. There's a meetup happening on Thursday the 13th. The outer swamp Meet Meetup in New York. No, New York Times, 6:00. Java Nation. That's in Rockland, Maryland, actually. Kind of a spookish place. And also on Thursday, the shrunken amygdala Support Group 2.0, 7:00 at March 1st Brewing in Cincinnati, Ohio. Many more to be [e-mail] get it together, people. You will love hanging out with your no Agenda fellow, no Agenda Nation citizens and human resources. Go to noagendameetups.com if you can't find one near you, start one yourself. It's so easy.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's like a party.

[Adam Curry]

You've been knocking it out of the park on the ISOs and the last, last few shows. You've got some kind of. Some kind of trove you've been pulling them from. So I do have two. I don't know if. If I'll make a. Even a dent in your ISO. So I. I shall go first. Here's the first one. They're eating the ball of worms. I kind of thought that was cute. They're eating the ball of worms. And then this one.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow.

[Adam Curry]

Whoa.

[John C. Dvorak]

That sounds bad.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I know. I thought you'd like it.

[John C. Dvorak]

I have two.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

I have a. Thanks.

[Katherine]

Thanks, Elsa.

[Adam Curry]

Thanks.

[John C. Dvorak]

Awesome.

[Adam Curry]

Is that what it was?

[Katherine]

Thanks.

[John C. Dvorak]

Thanks, Elsa.

[Katherine]

Thanks, Elsa.

[Adam Curry]

Nah. Nah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, then, let's try this one. Excellent. Excellent.

[Katherine]

I could listen to another hour.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. I can never win from these. Where are you getting these from? These are so good.

[John C. Dvorak]

Books on tape there.

[Adam Curry]

And now, everybody, it's time for the moment you've been waiting for. John's Tip. Tip of the Day. And sometimes Adam, created by Dana Burnetti. And I do want to remind everybody you can find these [e-mail] but also on no Agenda Fun.com, which has a lot of our other.

[John C. Dvorak]

I find no agenda fund.com to be a more complete list.

[Adam Curry]

It's. Oh, it's also. Well, I had nothing against tipoftheday.net, but noagendafund.com definitely has a lot of other stuff, our books, the movies, the TV shows we talk about. It's just, it's fun. It's noagendafund.com, but also tipoftheday.net and we are all excited to be.

[John C. Dvorak]

I will say this, what's missing from noagendafund.com is toomanyeggs.com oh, no plug.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, that is just a travesty.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I. I think so. Okay, so, yeah, I got another tip here. This is an interesting one. Another website called In. It's a. The product is called inpaint.

[Adam Curry]

Inpaint.

[John C. Dvorak]

In paint, like in I n paint. But the website's actually the inpaint.com theinpaint.com and this gives you, you know, there's all these, you know, this is probably the best of all these art artificial intelligence removal tools. So you have a photo and you got your ex boyfriend, your ex girlfriend in the photo. You click on her. Boom, she's gone.

[Adam Curry]

How does that go again?

[John C. Dvorak]

Theinpaint.com no, how does it go with the ex girlfriend? Boom, she's gone.

[Adam Curry]

Thank you.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know if that's going to work, but.

[Adam Curry]

Might not.

[John C. Dvorak]

But because I always wanted one of these for a regular. Just a computer because they have them on fault. You know, you always take a picture of your phone with a Pixel, Pixel 6, a Pixel 7, whatever it is, and you all look into. You tap on the. On the person.

[Katherine]

Poof.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Disappears. Well, this is a. Another version of that same kind of technology.

[Adam Curry]

Is it free? Is it free? Is it free?

[John C. Dvorak]

It's free.

[Adam Curry]

It's free. How do they do it? How do they do this with this AI it's all free. It's amazing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. And expect it to disappear one of these days completely.

[Adam Curry]

That's right, everybody. There it is. Your tip of the day. Tipoftheday.net noagendafun.com and sometimes Adam created by Dana Bernetti. That's right, everybody. There you go. We are well on time to get ready for the big game. The big, big, big game. So excited about the big game. The big game will be played and. And I will be rooting for the birds. Go Birds. E G E L E S Eagles.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

For those of you who do not want to watch the super bowl, stick around because coming up next on the stream, no agenda stream, Trollroom IO if you want to troll. Or of course, your modern podcast app. We got just two good old boys coming up next. Two good old boys. I think that's Sir Gene One of the two good old boys and some dude named Ban. And of course we have some very relevant end of show mixes. We've got David Kekta always comes in with something. Danny Luce is back. Good to have Danny. Danny is. I'm glad he's back. Calming down, a little worried about stuff in the world and also some. Chris. Sir. Chris Wilson stuck in there. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas hill country here in Fredericksburg in the morning, everybody.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley. We're at Super Bowl Sunday. The kickoff is at 3:30 they say, but it won't be, I guarantee it. I'm John C. Dvorak.

[Adam Curry]

We return on Thursday with more media deconstruction right here. Remember us atnoensafe donations.com. until then, adios mo fos who we hooey and such. Elon Musk.

[Katherine]

Elon Musk.

[John C. Dvorak]

Elon Musk.

[Adam Curry]

Elon Musk. Elon Musk. Elon Musk.

[Katherine]

Elon Musk.

[Adam Curry]

Elon Musk. I gotta say, President Trump is brilliant.

[Katherine]

We will not shut up.

[Adam Curry]

We will stand up.

[Katherine]

We will speak up.

[Adam Curry]

We will rise up. What's dangerous is that people who work for USAID are wearing masks to protect themselves from masks. This is a yearbook dictatorship. We're not going to have apartheid in America anymore. Elon Musk has not been elected to anything. And who the hell does us think he is? He has absolutely no right in shutting down usaid. We cannot allow that.

[John C. Dvorak]

We've got to take to the streets.

[Adam Curry]

Elon Musk. Suppressive efforts to undermine federal agencies with the help of Elon Musk. His latest victim is the U.S. agency for International Development, or USAID.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is the magic of Steve Jobs.

[Adam Curry]

Well, no guys have literally.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm telling you, nobody wants to believe me when I say this, but they sold themselves out to evil forces. It creates this magic around them. It says nothing you can do about it.

[Adam Curry]

You mean like black magic?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, black magic. That's why in some cases they have to wear the black turtleneck.

[Adam Curry]

Just like. Yeah, it's part. It's part of the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Part of black turtleneck yells above rules like the same thing. Elizabeth Holmes.

[Adam Curry]

We're going to make you fabulously wealthy. But you got to wear the turtleneck, otherwise it doesn't work. Got a black man magic El. I've got a black magic Elon. I've got a black magic Elon. Got a cyber truck I must see I've got a black magic Elon. He's trying to get a hu out of me. Cervical cancer is back.

[Katherine]

I made my sons get it it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Immediately because they don't know anything. They do not have knowledge.

[Adam Curry]

And who the hell does? Mus Pinky is.

[Katherine]

Not conscious. I get it.

[Adam Curry]

No, no, no, no.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not just not conscious.

[Adam Curry]

In Congress, in the streets.

[John C. Dvorak]

They don't know anything. Really obvious why anyone would pay for chat GPT plus a toy.

[Katherine]

I made my sons get it immediately. Pretending to be outraged.

[Adam Curry]

They make mistakes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, you want to use our money.

[Katherine]

20 million on a new Sesame street show in Iraq to combat disinformation in Kazakhstan.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's the kind of thing that you.

[Adam Curry]

Should get fired from a company for. They should boot you out the door. Reduction in with providers who are using Nabla.

[John C. Dvorak]

Nabla is the AI software company. We have to fight this in the Congress. We have to fight this in the streets.

[Katherine]

I made my sons get it immediately.

[Adam Curry]

No, not it's n boot you out the door.

[John C. Dvorak]

You don't have thoughts. You don't even know how these things fully funct and then ran it in the worst way.

[Katherine]

I made my sons get it.

[John C. Dvorak]

They do not have knowledge.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Cervical cancer is back.

[Katherine]

All right.

[Adam Curry]

We've got to take to the streets the best podcast in the universe. Adios, mofo. Dvorak.org na Excellent.

[Katherine]

I could listen to another hour.