1763 - "AI Factory"

Summary

No Agenda Show - Episode 1763: "AI Factory"

Release Date: May 11, 2025

Hosts: Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak

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1. Introduction and Mother's Day Reflections

The episode opens with Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak exchanging greetings and acknowledging Mother's Day. They reflect on the heightened appreciation for mothers during the COVID-19 pandemic, noting an increase in motherly involvement and support.

• Adam Curry [00:39]: "We need moms now more than ever."

2. Discussion on Motherly Love Post-COVID

John expresses concern over the current state of motherly love, stating it has deteriorated both before and after the pandemic.

• John C. Dvorak [00:59]: "Not so good."

Adam shares a personal anecdote about dreaming of his late mother, highlighting the emotional need for maternal figures.

3. Etymology of "Mother" and Family Cohesion

Adam introduces an etymological perspective, suggesting the word "mother" derives from Hebrew roots meaning "strong water," symbolizing family cohesion akin to glue.

• Adam Curry [01:55]: "Mother is glue, the glue that keeps the family together."

John remains skeptical of this interpretation.

4. Critique of Media and Influencers

The conversation shifts to media criticism, particularly targeting mainstream figures like Megyn Kelly and Laura Loomer for their handling of controversial topics.

• Adam Curry [04:21]: "They want this stuff into everybody's system as soon as possible."

John supports Adam's skepticism towards media studies, labeling them as "smoke and mirrors."

5. RFK Jr. and Surgeon General Appointment

Adam delves into the controversial appointment of Pope Leo XIV Prevost as Surgeon General, expressing disappointment and highlighting the rapid publication of studies supporting this decision.

• Adam Curry [03:52]: "This is your award-winning... Pope Leo XIV Prevost."

John questions the legitimacy and origins of the supporting studies, considering them potentially fraudulent.

6. Anti-Diabetic Drugs and Erectile Dysfunction Studies

The hosts discuss recent studies linking anti-diabetic drugs like Wegovy and Ozempic to improvements in erectile dysfunction, criticizing their rapid endorsement by mainstream media.

• John C. Dvorak [07:17]: "This looks like smoke and mirrors to me."

Adam mocks the media's eagerness to promote these findings without substantial evidence.

7. Political Figures and Media Manipulation

Adam and John critique political figures like Senator Bill Cassidy and Secretary of Defense Mark Milley, accusing them of being manipulated by larger entities for political gains.

• John C. Dvorak [09:56]: "This is a big setup, total bullcrap."

They express distrust in the alignment between government officials and media narratives.

8. Artificial Intelligence and European Initiatives

The conversation transitions to AI, focusing on European Union's ambitious plans to lead in AI development through massive investments in "AI factories" and "gigafactories."

• C [114:01]: "We're investing. We're building 13 AI factories and five gigafactories."

Adam expresses skepticism about the practical implementation and benefits of these AI initiatives.

9. Critique of Shortwave Radio and Media Outlets

John and Adam mock the relevance of shortwave radio in the modern age, contrasting it with internet-based media, and criticize outlets like NPR and Radio Free Asia for their perceived inefficacies and biases.

• John C. Dvorak [83:59]: "Nobody listens to shortwave radio. It's 2025."

10. Geopolitical Tensions: Russia-Ukraine and India-Pakistan Conflicts

The hosts provide updates on geopolitical tensions, including Putin's offers for ceasefire talks and the fragile ceasefire between India and Pakistan over Kashmir. They express pessimism about the prospects for lasting peace.

• John C. Dvorak [43:07]: "This brings us to the point that was just made when Putin... 524 drones."

11. Air Traffic Control System Failures

Adam and John discuss recent failures in the U.S. Air Traffic Control (ATC) system, criticizing the government's slow response and the complexity of upgrading antiquated infrastructure.

• John C. Dvorak [66:18]: "They have to build six new air traffic control centers for the first time since the 1960s."

12. Funding Cuts to Public Media

The episode highlights President Trump's executive order to cut funding to NPR and other public media outlets, portraying it as an attack on unbiased journalism.

• C [79:21]: "President Trump has issued an executive order seeking to block all federal funding to NPR."

John and Adam condemn the move, emphasizing the importance of independent media.

13. Infrastructure and Technology Critiques

The hosts critique U.S. infrastructure projects, particularly labeling the Defense Department's IT upgrades as ineffective and a misallocation of funds.

• John C. Dvorak [75:28]: "They are going to be saved by pouring way too much money on stuff."

14. Closing Remarks and Community Engagement

Adam and John conclude the episode by acknowledging their donors, promoting meetups, and emphasizing their "value for value" model. They encourage listeners to support the show through donations and participation in community events.

• Adam Curry [177:54]: "Get the plus, get the bundle. Get the bundle. Become a concierge member so after complaining about them."

Notable Quotes

• Adam Curry [01:55]: "Mother is glue, the glue that keeps the family together."
• John C. Dvorak [07:17]: "This looks like smoke and mirrors to me."
• C [114:01]: "We're investing. We're building 13 AI factories and five gigafactories."
• John C. Dvorak [83:59]: "Nobody listens to shortwave radio. It's 2025."
• C [79:21]: "President Trump has issued an executive order seeking to block all federal funding to NPR."

Conclusion

Episode 1763 of the No Agenda Show delves into a myriad of topics ranging from the state of motherly love in post-pandemic society to critical analyses of media influence, political appointments, and global geopolitical tensions. The hosts maintain a skeptical stance towards mainstream narratives, emphasizing the need for independent media and community support. Through engaging banter and pointed critiques, Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak encourage their audience to question established systems and support alternative platforms that align with their values.

Transcript

[Adam Curry]

I got burned with the quantum dots, man. I got burned. Adam Curry, John C. Devorah. And Sunday, May 11, 2025. This is your award winning Gibbonation Media Assassination Episode 1763. This is no Agenda. Celebrating moms all around Gitmo nation and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry.

[John C. Dvorak]

And from northern Silicon Valley, where we do say happy Mother's day. I'm John C. Dvorak.

[Adam Curry]

It's Crackpot and Buzz.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

We do say happy Mother's day. You do, do. You say. You do say happy mothers.

[John C. Dvorak]

We do.

[Adam Curry]

We do.

[John C. Dvorak]

We do.

[Adam Curry]

We do. How did you know when we were going through Covid? People love their moms. Everybody was crazy about moms because moms became mama bears and they had the moms. They were showing up to the show. Moms everywhere. How do you think it is? What is the state of motherly love today?

[John C. Dvorak]

Not so good.

[Adam Curry]

Why is this. This is beyond me.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's just the way it is. It was this way before COVID and it's this way after Covid.

[Adam Curry]

It makes no sense. We need moms now more than ever. More than. I mean, I want my mom. Do you ever miss. I miss my mom. Do you ever miss your mom? I know it's been a while since she passed, but do you miss your mom?

[John C. Dvorak]

I see her in dreams.

[Adam Curry]

Really?

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah. Comes up, shows up every once in a while, makes it.

[Adam Curry]

Makes a fuss. Does he make a fuss about. Does he make a fuss about the Chinese taking over everything?

[John C. Dvorak]

She says, where's the toilet paper? Get this. Chinese are buying it all up.

[Adam Curry]

Well, that's nice. My mom doesn't show up in my dreams. I read an interesting etymology of the word mother today, which kind of. Yeah, why you laugh? Why you're laughing?

[John C. Dvorak]

I didn't even look that up. Okay?

[Adam Curry]

No, I didn't look it up. I came across it in Hebrew. Mother is. Is consists of two words. Eleth and mem. And eleth is an ox head, and mem is a water. And so this is, in ancient Hebrew, this would be strong water. And here it comes. The ancient Hebrews used to boil animal skins, ox skins, to get this gooey substance they used as glue. Hence, mother is glue, the glue that keeps the family together. How about that?

[John C. Dvorak]

Sounds like a cock and bull story if ever there was.

[Adam Curry]

You know, somehow. Oh. Oops. Oh, boy. What happened there? Somehow I knew you would not be buying it. But you didn't say it. You didn't say, I'm not buying it. You say cock and bull.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I try to avoid that. Ph.

[Adam Curry]

Well, then let me get you on a different track. As we know, I'm very disappointed about picking the wrong pope. I mean, I'm not laying awake at night, but I feel like. Oh, man. And the more I look at this Leo XIV Prevost, the more I'm thinking if he was even on the radar, I might have seen that he could be the guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

So you're reverse engineering your mistake?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I think so.

[John C. Dvorak]

To. To prove that you probably could have picked it if it was. Even if the guy had somehow cropped up, if it passed your. Your threshold of. Of knowledge, you would have.

[Adam Curry]

I don't know about knowledge.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, that's.

[Adam Curry]

That's the guy. That's. That's the guy. But it doesn't matter because I want.

[John C. Dvorak]

To hear the rest of the rationale.

[Adam Curry]

Well, no, no, the rationale. No, that's not as important as what I need to say next. You're not going to believe it. This came over the transom this morning.

[John C. Dvorak]

You're related to the guy from PubMed.

[Adam Curry]

The effects of anti diabetic drugs on erectile dysfunction. In conclusion, GLP1s demonstrate an advantage over Metform in improving erectile dysfunction in patients. Baby, I nailed it. Wegovi and Ozempic are now good if there's two.

[John C. Dvorak]

I knew, by the way, when you said it to begin with that it was an obvious end point for the sales pitch bull crap that they're pulling. But the fact that they would.

[Adam Curry]

I nailed it.

[John C. Dvorak]

That it's come so soon is kind of surprising.

[Adam Curry]

Two studies. Two studies.

[John C. Dvorak]

Two studies. Not just one, not one.

[Adam Curry]

Two studies. They're going all study.

[John C. Dvorak]

Where do these studies come from?

[Adam Curry]

Okay, the one is PubMed, which I think is. Is pretty.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, but PubMed doesn't do studies. They publish them.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Okay, so they. All right, they published it. Do they publish bogus studies? Yes, yes, but that's.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Kennedys mentioned that, but that's not the point.

[Adam Curry]

The point is they want this stuff into everybody's system as soon as possible. The second.

[John C. Dvorak]

COVID vaccine kill enough people.

[Adam Curry]

It's actually. So it's both. It's NIH, the National Library of Medicine, PMC. It's both PubMed. Two of them in PubMed. So this is a bonanza, baby. And it's too bad we don't have the morning shows. Maybe tomorrow they'll be all over this. I'm sure they'll be.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, tomorrow's Show.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I'm sure they got.

[John C. Dvorak]

Absolutely.

[Adam Curry]

I'm sure they got the script by now.

[John C. Dvorak]

We have clips for Thursday.

[Adam Curry]

The script is in. Oh, everybody. It's amazing. It's like it's time to retire. When it becomes that easy to see where the things are going, it's like, might as well just quit.

[John C. Dvorak]

So that what you did there was to show that you used you. You obfuscated your bad pick for Pope.

[Adam Curry]

Correct.

[John C. Dvorak]

By bringing in a kind of the long shot, which seemed like a long shot, but not to me necessarily. Long shot pick for a marketing scheme. Yes. Which you predicted accurately and then you just kind of glossed it over as though there's some. Somehow makes you better. I don't know what you're trying to do.

[Adam Curry]

Makes me feel better. That's all that counts. As long as I feel better.

[John C. Dvorak]

I like, still like to know. You didn't read. You didn't say, because you don't have it in front of you. Where these research papers actually stemmed. Where they. Where from what? Where from did they come.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, I do have it in front of me. Okay, this is a lot of Italians here. In the first one, Giuseppe Lisco. Let me see, let me see. What the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hey, Giuseppe.

[Adam Curry]

Hey, Giuseppe. What about my. I. What about my. Ed. Giuseppe. Okay, let's see. Doesn't, by the way, with these drugs.

[John C. Dvorak]

In play for at least a decade, you think they would have figured this out earlier.

[Adam Curry]

So this was a systematic review and meta analysis. This.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is where the systematic review. This is not research then. This is a review and a meta analysis. That's not the same as a research paper.

[Adam Curry]

Right, but they cite all the other papers, including exploring the potential impact of GLP1 receptor agonist. That's not the one I'm looking for.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, this looks like a smoke and mirrors to me. It worked, though.

[Adam Curry]

I don't think it's here.

[John C. Dvorak]

Look, look, look.

[Adam Curry]

It is. GLP1 therapy boosts erectile function in diabetic obese men. Now, a lot of people.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not a pretty sight.

[Adam Curry]

No. A lot of. A lot of people sent in other ideas that if your wife uses WeGovy, you automatically lose your erectile dysfunction.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I got that joke, too.

[Adam Curry]

So that joking came a couple of times.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Let me see what this is. This one is. Okay, let me see who did this. This is actual research. That's very long. Oh, man. You'll have to forgive me if I didn't read through all the formulaic reasoning that they believe. My goodness, this thing is eight football yards long.

[John C. Dvorak]

If we look on it. And you will get well, that's okay. The morning shows, when you have Dr. Jen and Dr. Bill and Dr. Fre and all these other phony baloneys, come on. The networks, they will tell us.

[Adam Curry]

They will tell us. New research. That's what they're going to tell us. It doesn't matter if it's true or not. It just matters that they have something to point to, to once again. You know, throw in a little ad for the big boys. For the big boys.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. While they can.

[Adam Curry]

Well, what do you mean, while they can?

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, well, they're going to pull the plug on this eventually.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, please. RFK Jr. What have you done for me lately?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, it looks like Bill Cassidy, according to our buddy Glenn Greenwald.

[Adam Curry]

You're buying that? You watch that and you buy that?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, boy. Do you have a clip?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I just got it this morning. I didn't do any bonus clips this morning. So I'm gonna. I'm looking at. I still haven't fully bought it, but I have, kind of, because it makes sense. But this guy, this Cassidy guy's a bad actor in a lot of different ways. He's been a Trump hater. He's one of the few Republicans that voted for his impeachment in the Senate.

[Adam Curry]

Well, we had Bill Cassidy clips when. When Kennedy was going through confirmation somewhere. I'm pretty sure we have one. And he was saying, you know, well, you're gonna have to talk to me. You have to have conversations with me. You gotta meet with me every month.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. And then you. Then we had Shanahan's clip. You had it recently?

[Adam Curry]

No, it was a post. It wasn't a clip.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. It's a post that she said that she thinks he's referring to. He's not working for the president, but he's working for some alien force. She.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, you mean. You mean Kennedy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. All because the president appointed Kayce Means as Surgeon General. That's the whole reason why everyone's all, as you would say, has their tit in the wringer over this.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's what I'd say.

[Adam Curry]

And a couple of people got their tit in the ringer over your newsletter. A rare.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, I made a mistake in the newsletter.

[Adam Curry]

A rare apology. Apology well done, though. It was. I mean, rare, because you don't usually have to make apologies.

[John C. Dvorak]

I felt bad about it.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. I could. Wow. Who are you? You're, like, saying, I was wrong. Mea culpa. The past month has been nothing but Honest John.

[John C. Dvorak]

Honest John. It's always been Honest John. Yeah, it's my old nickname. They used to call me that in high school. Sure.

[Adam Curry]

I'm sure. So what happened? What happened for the dumbos who don't subscribe to the newsletter and could be a part of Wonderful Double News Newsletter day?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I. I had to. I was going over the records of all the people that were surgeon generals, and they were all in the Navy, it looked like, because they're all admirals. But, you know, they got that assignment later, and then it became even sent. There's a secondary controversy over whether there's the fact that they're given the admiralship when they become a surgeon general because they work for public health services, but whether that's officially whether that's a Navy position or not. And, you know, the argument is no. And the Navy guys are all bent out of shape about even considering because of Rachel. I think because of Rachel Levine. They have enough trouble in the Navy without that guy.

[Adam Curry]

Right. And so what happened to that dude anyway?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know. Probably on a board of some Kleiner Perkins company. So when it began, when the surgeon general began in 1871, it was a. My understanding it was a Navy position. And then it kind of devolved into one thing or another, but they kept this idea of keeping the title of admiral. It's kind of hard to follow, to be honest about it. And there's a few people that never took the title of admiral. It started off as commodore, by the way, just for all you commodores out there. Really?

[Adam Curry]

Oh, wow, that's interesting.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it was Commodore. Commodore. You can go look up the list of surgeon generals in Wikipedia, and it's all commodores, and then all of a sudden became admirals because the commodore thing was dropped by the Navy. So, gee, a coincidence. The Navy drops commodore and so do these guys. They wear a Navy uniform. And my challenge to the Navy guys out there that say that it's not part of the Navy or they have nothing to do with the Navy, let's say I'll give them that. If you're a Navy lieutenant and you run into one of these admirals, do you salute them?

[Adam Curry]

Oh, interesting question. I would say yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

I would say yes, too. But they're not part of the Navy. You don't have to salute them, do you? But they're an admiral. What would you do? What would you do?

[Adam Curry]

I would salute and say, how you doing, buddy? Good morning. Good morning to you.

[John C. Dvorak]

So the whole thing is sketchy, but this beside the point. The whole thing, it was a Botch on my part, and so I had to send an apology note out.

[Adam Curry]

It's okay. So no sooner had we.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I got a lot of notes, and here's what the big, you know, what the big complaint was. The number amongst the complaints. Everybody complained about that. You know what their actual, real complaint was when it came down to it?

[Adam Curry]

John, what was the actual, real complaint when it came down to it?

[John C. Dvorak]

Thanks for asking, Adam. I said surgeon generals instead of surgeons general. No.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, what a faux pas.

[John C. Dvorak]

It was a botch of the highest order.

[Adam Curry]

Epic proportional botch.

[John C. Dvorak]

And everybody brought that up, whether they thought about the admiralship or not. Brings this up. See, what if we got a bunch of grammarians out there worried about this sort of thing practically?

[Adam Curry]

Clearly. Well, we also called out other people on the news for saying that, so it's kind of a taste of our own.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, that's the irony, of course. Yes, we have done that.

[Adam Curry]

So no sooner had we ended the show or I start getting threads X threads to look at Laura Loomer calling out Kali means as a shill, a big pharma shill. And Kali means saying, you are the shill. You're getting paid. No, you're a shill. No, you're a shill. All about disappointment. And it's.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, which brings us to the Megyn Kelly clip, which I have, which discusses this in some discussion, some degree might bring it up to.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, no, I'd like to do that.

[C]

Started thinking about the things that would ultimately wind up in the book. Good energy would be at the center of the Maha movement. Brother Cali was going through his own evolution and realizations, having worked for Coca Cola and came out hard as almost like a whistleblower against what companies like that are doing to us with the sugar and the food supply and the SNAP program and so on. And they've become very important and essential Americans, especially when it comes to Maha. Great. So why is she getting mercilessly attacked right now by some within the Maha movement and by Laura Loomer, who I don't know if she's in. She considers herself Maha. And I really don't dismiss Laura Loomer because people call her a conspiracy theorist. She's been right about a lot. She's really taking aim at Casey. And I have to say on this one, I really disagree. I'm just going to tell you some of the allegations. Okay. She said that Casey means her dad wrote a pro trans children's book back in 2020. Well, he did write a book that was about like a weird. An odd duckling or goose and how it wound up. It basically wound up being gay.

[Adam Curry]

Wait a minute. You're telling me Cali means is a trans guy, is a dude and is a woman in a. In pants? No.

[C]

And in the opening to the book, he does say that this is. It's about Felix, a unique bird. And he says it's a story for children and adults alike and says it's. It's for. I'm trying to find the exact quote, but it's about. Oh. Coming of age is challenging for most children, but it can be especially tough for those grappling with their gender and sexual identities. Gender. He. So he mentions it and. Oh, but I've looked at the book. At least what I can find if it. I have like four pages and it's really about a gay goose.

[Adam Curry]

Oh my goodness. All of these people. Megyn Kelly, Laura Loomer, all these, by the way. Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

I am never gonna clip her again. You. That clip that you played there is actually about a half an hour.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I know.

[John C. Dvorak]

She, she repeats herself. She's like a radio person. She, you know, she's these old radio people and TV people. They, they talk and then they wrap it around. They talk it. I had to cut out so much where she just reiterated and came back and did this and that and put asides in there. It's like, you know, when I have to clip Jesse Waters is the same thing.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's got his sides, a little one liners and things that aren't. Little mockery.

[Adam Curry]

Little mockery.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's a mess.

[Adam Curry]

It's all of these people. So first of all, the whole controversy really stems from the fact that Casey, not even Callie, not even Casey, of course she's so controversial because is she readily a doctor? Did she quit her residency? Blah, blah, blah, blah. They came out of nowhere. They had this book. It's a best selling book and they will not. And this is really what it's about. The core of this is the trauma that I would say Maha have as in Maga Maha about President. About Maga Maha about President Trump not saying, hey, that vaccine sucked. This is what it's about. Because neither of those two, the brother sister combo will actually say, yeah, that thing was not a good idea. They keep hedging around it like, well.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, actually Kelly addresses this exact point in the next clip.

[Adam Curry]

No, excellent.

[C]

As a gay goose. Okay, whatever. By the way, it's her father, it's not her. Like I don't.

[John C. Dvorak]

Right.

[C]

Okay. So like if she had written this. Maybe we. It would lead to a follow up question at the hearings. Like what. What do you think about, you know, children grappling with their gender identities? That's really the question, isn't it? What does Casey means think she is where I am on this. She is not pro the transing of children at all. Her brother Cali right now is out there calling it demonic. They're very close. That's number one. Then she points out Loomer does that she never completed her residency. That is true. I just gave you the context. She points out she does not even have an active medical license in Oregon. That's true. Because she decided to stop practicing medicine a couple of years into her private practice. And to do, she has this company now that offers like all day glucose monitoring and explains to people how to read their blood levels when they get their lab test back and so on. It sort of helps more millions as opposed to like individuals. And I can speak this as a lawyer. I, I passed the bar in New York, in Illinois and in Massachusetts.

[Adam Curry]

Lawyer.

[C]

Okay. So I, I was admitted in all those states. I practice at length. You in New York State, in Chicago, in Washington D.C. for that matter. And I wound up going dormant on all of my law licenses many years into joining, you know, journalism full time because A, it, it costs money and B, it's a lot of continuing legal education.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, but she didn't talk about the vaccine there, only about, you know, it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Got left on the cutting room floor because I got sick of it. Okay, I'll tell you what she said. She said that if Callie speak. Or is it Casey? I could never.

[Adam Curry]

Casey, Casey, we're talking about. Cali is the one who's been on all these podcasts. People been firing at him for hours and hours.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

And he will not denounce the, the COVID vaccine specifically.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. She says the following. I did because I, I, you're. I was supposed to be in that clip. I turned it out because I couldn't take it anymore. Cut, cut and cut and cutting. So she said that if she, if she, Casey says she was anti Vaxx, she would never get approved in a million years. And so they can't say it. They can't. So in other words, she's implying that they believe it, but they can't say it because then she would never get approved.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, the bottom line is. Well, actually, before I get to my.

[John C. Dvorak]

Bottom line, is there a bottom line to this?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I think there is. This is RFK Jr. On the KC means appointment this was him on the Friendly Fox and Friends.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

I'm very, very happy that. Grateful to President Trump for nominating case Surgeon General. There, there is. The industries that are threatened by her nomination are mobilizing, and they're actually paying a lot of bloggers.

[C]

We've.

[Adam Curry]

We've learned now to attack her. They're attacking her on the money, on the critique that she. Where's our dough? Where's our check?

[John C. Dvorak]

Where's our money?

[Adam Curry]

Just at least offer it. Just like Madison.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, at least.

[Adam Curry]

Come on. I feel. I feel really out. We got a million people.

[John C. Dvorak]

We've been left out of every. Every bribe possible.

[Adam Curry]

Every. Every. Every good, good deal.

[John C. Dvorak]

Gold.

[Adam Curry]

Gold. No gold. We got no gold. She was at the top of her Stanford class. She was president of her Stanford class as a resident. She won every award that you could get for the kind of surgery that she was doing. She realized very early on that she was not healing patients. They were coming back again and again because the surgeries were treating the symptoms and not the underlying causes. And she decided to devote her life to figuring out what those underlying causes were and to ending those exposures. She wrote a best selling book that really galvanized the Maha movement. And, Rachel, I'm very glad to. I'm very, very grateful to you for the leadership that you've shown in telling the story to the American public. Casey is an incredible storyteller. She is a pregnant mom right now, so she has a. She has a touchstone with every mother in this country. Okay, so what RFK Jr is doing here is he is debunking and clapping back at Laura Loomer because Laura Loomer posted that there's no evidence she's pregnant. Why are we hiring pregnant women? They have to go on pregnancy leave. And these, these people are being paid. And as I said, Callie was like, no, you're being paid. So RFK Jr's basically saying you are being paid.

[John C. Dvorak]

Funny part of it, by the way, has some clips of that. Well, there's no back and forth.

[Adam Curry]

There's no clips. It's just.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's no. It's just two of them bickering on. On Twitter.

[Adam Curry]

All of these people. And then we can move on. All of these people. Let me just get my thought out. All of these people, Megyn Kelly, Laura Loomer, all the influences who keep coming back to this thing, which really doesn't matter that much. I mean, the surgeon general. Did we stop smoking because the surgeon general. Because Coop said it's gonna kill you? No, the surgeon General is the Surgeon General. In your original newsletter, you pointed out no one even knows who the last surgeon general was. These influencers. And I'll put Laura Loomer and Megyn Kelly in there. They're like dogs returning to their own vomit. They just keep coming back.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow.

[Adam Curry]

Thank you.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm liking it all. You worked on that one.

[Adam Curry]

I worked on that one, but that's what it is. Who cares? Yeah, it's another thing like. Oh, God, the Fredericksburg. The Fredericksburg rumor network is in high gear. Oh, they're building a sharia lie.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, your point is well taken. Why? Who cares? It's the Surgeon General. It's not like, you know, the Secretary.

[Adam Curry]

Of State because of the tr. That particular part is because of the trauma of COVID And they're all secretly very mad that Trump has never said. He said. Yeah, I don't think that vaccine was so good. He says the opposite. Although he's dialed that back even that. It's a trauma. It is a trauma. Amongst people who voted for Trump, it's trauma. If he would. It would all end if he just said that. And I think his ego's in the way on that one. Or maybe he knows something we don't. Anyway, the next thing then. We talked about this months ago. Oh. Oh, they're building an entire Sharia Law city in Texas.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah. Well, before we go to that, I do want to get the one. I do have a couple. One more. Casey Means.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't. I thought that's what we were done. Okay, I got you. You were making moves, and I wasn't paying attention. I'm sorry.

[John C. Dvorak]

You weren't. You were not taking the cue.

[Adam Curry]

I was trying to get my. My one liner out. That's why I was focused on that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. You develop these things about once a month.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, once a month that you catch it. Yeah. Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, that's probably true. It's probably twice a month, and I only catch one. And then you ad lib. At least you ad lib twice as many as you actually developed. So I give you credit for that.

[Adam Curry]

Thank you.

[John C. Dvorak]

Casey Means was on the Bill Maher show.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, this past Friday.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, it was like a month ago or longer.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, okay. All right.

[John C. Dvorak]

After a book came out and she was the special guest. And, you know, this is when they used to have. When Mara had the two guests on his right, and then he'd have one special guest on his left.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Which he's kind of backed off of.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, we had. Well, the the special guest is the guest in the beginning who then comes out later for the panel discussion during overtime.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sometimes or sometimes it's all.

[Adam Curry]

It's strange.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's a variation. He changes his model a little bit.

[Adam Curry]

It's a strange format. I. I don't particularly like it.

[John C. Dvorak]

So she is on. But this. These clips have nothing to do with her except for the fact that they triggered something that I had to make some commentary on before we talk about Sharia law in Texas, which I think is also a Fredericksburg freakout.

[Adam Curry]

No, it's bigger than that. But we can get to that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, it could be. Could be. But let's go. Let me get this out of the way.

[Adam Curry]

You brought it back up.

[John C. Dvorak]

It does involve a rant, which you enjoy.

[Adam Curry]

Okay. Yep.

[John C. Dvorak]

He'll. Here's Bill Maher. And the topic changes out of the blue as he has Chris Cuomo and some other guy and the. And Casey means on. And then it slowly twists. Where is these clips? What are they called?

[Adam Curry]

Means. Means on mar.

[John C. Dvorak]

Means on Mar.1. Yeah. There's a lot of stuff in our food that probably shouldn't be there. And every time they look. The more they look, the more they find.

[Adam Curry]

That can kill you. Gambling.

[John C. Dvorak]

Everybody's head is going like this.

[C]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think the food's a problem.

[Adam Curry]

My question to you is, if everybody's.

[John C. Dvorak]

Head is nodding like this, what is keeping anything from ever happening that moves.

[Adam Curry]

Us in the direction that you're going to be? The food is delicious. That's the problem.

[John C. Dvorak]

I would say that's what it is.

[Adam Curry]

Who comes back from Italy saying, I.

[John C. Dvorak]

Can'T wait to get some ragu?

[C]

That's right. I mean, Italy, the food is all. It's more delicious. But we don't live in Italy.

[Adam Curry]

You live near McDonald's.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not yet.

[Adam Curry]

That was. That was Casey jumping in there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. She's trying to get a word in Edgewood, but Mars out of control. And then he says the following things which got. I didn't record any of her. I didn't care. It's mostly. This is the issue.

[Adam Curry]

This is not rocket science.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm not talking about, like, the food is delicious.

[C]

It is in America.

[Adam Curry]

If I had said six months to live. You mean the last McDonald's every night, and if I ate McDonald's every night, I'd have six months to live.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. So look, I was on his team.

[Adam Curry]

McDonald's isn't delicious. Who we kidding?

[John C. Dvorak]

I. Absolutely. It's delicious.

[C]

See, I.

[Adam Curry]

It's so.

[C]

I mean, you should talk.

[Adam Curry]

But I never have it but it's delicious. And how do you know? I. I've had it. Oh, have they changed the formula? I don't think so. And here comes the rest.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's what got my attention.

[Adam Curry]

The formula change. Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

So I have stories because I used to work as an air pollution inspector and I got to inspect all these places. A number of them were McDonald's jobbers. They changed the formula all the time. And if he doesn't think they changed the formula, somebody should tell him about the difference between the tallow fries that they used to make, which are famous. Oh, delicious McDonald's fries to the crap they make now, which are soggy seed oil. Seed oil fries. There's a formula change, isn't there?

[Adam Curry]

I'd say.

[John C. Dvorak]

But the original McDonald's formula for the sauce on the Big Mac was largely developed by Morehouse Mustards, which used to be headquartered in Ameryville. And I used to inspect that plant a lot. And I got to know this guy, George Latter.

[Adam Curry]

Wait a minute. That's their secret sauce, isn't it? The. Isn't it secret? The sauce?

[John C. Dvorak]

It's a secret. Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Okay. Agent Thousand Islands dressing. Doesn't everybody already know?

[John C. Dvorak]

The kicker was he Latter told me when they blended it, the original blender blend was with fresh horseradish. And that's what made the original Big Mac so tasty, because of the horseradish that was in there. And he says as soon as they went into full production and within a year, they changed the horseradish to a powdered horseradish, which was bland. Formula change, by the way, for poor Bill Maher, who thinks these burgers still taste like they used to. I've also tasted the burgers in the McDonald's burgers in Paris because they have a McDonald's, or they used to have one on the Champs Elysees. And you taste. It doesn't taste anything like these burgers. They're totally different. The bread's different. Everything's different about them. Also, the bread used to be made. Another inspection I made was the Kirkpatrick's or Kilpatrick's bread factory in Oakland, which the company went out of business during the era of balloon bread, where you had, if I remember, Kilpatrick's Wonder Bread, Langendorf Sunbeam, Blue Seal, there's all these different bread companies. They all made this. This same kind of, you know, fluffy white bread, and they made the McDonald's burger buns. And the guy. The guy noticed about it. He says, yeah, he said the had to have A special. They had a template so the bun would be. As the bun was just after it was before it was being tempered. They. They smashed the bun with this, like, temp. Like these little blades that weren't blazer, just pushers. And they put a crosshatch pattern on the bread. And the guy manager says to me, says, that's to make it look as though the bread was folded.

[Adam Curry]

It's just fake. Whatever happened to Wonder Bread, by the way, I love my Wonder Bread.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wonder Bread's still around, but the other Balloo breads are all gone.

[Adam Curry]

If you want to. There's a fun movie to watch. Michael Keaton in the founder. It came out in 2016.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. About Roy Crock.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. And because what triggered. Because we watched this maybe two weeks ago. What triggered me is that they went to the powdered horseradish. That was one of the ways he got the company going is by using powdered milk for the milkshakes in the early days. And I'm sure. And they change that of course, later as well. So, yeah, Bill Maher is talking about.

[John C. Dvorak]

Going on about they don't change the formula. So just to top it off, as you know, I have been tasting McDonald's Big Macs at least once a month.

[Adam Curry]

Once a month. Once a month.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I stopped a year ago.

[Adam Curry]

Because you were getting sick.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I couldn't eat. I couldn't finish one. They were so. The latest version is so unedible. And for. For Mara to say it's delicious. He's way. He obviously doesn't eat there. No, it's not even close to delicious. It's not edible.

[Adam Curry]

No. If I have a stomachache, I'll go to McDonald's so I can poop it out. That stuff never. That stuff goes. I mean, he's just the middleman at McDonald's. You just, like, eat it and it's raised right before I'm not even home. Like, I gotta go. Okay, enough about.

[John C. Dvorak]

I just had to get that off my chest.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Well, hopefully the new surgeon general will unveil all things unhealthy, and I will take RFK Jr at his word that there's all kinds of money floating. Look, big pharma is big. They know the media is changing. They know that they're phony baloney. CBS morning show segments. That. That's not really, you know, it's. It's. It's really not going to last much longer. Five years, 10 years, I don't know, maybe five months. People are moving.

[John C. Dvorak]

If you banned. If you ban advertising There you go. You have to ban the native ads. You have to ban the native ads. There's no native ads for smoking. They won't even let you smoke in a movie half the time until getting bent out of shape.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well, so if they're.

[John C. Dvorak]

If they're going to ban advertising on television for prescription drugs, they have to ban the native ads.

[Adam Curry]

Well, my point is, they know change is coming one way or the other, and they're fighting it, and they're fighting it in the correct ways. What I would do, we'd have the meeting, hey, let's cut some checks. Is Rogan doable? No. Okay, what's next? Loomer. Okay, we'll start with her. Megyn Kelly, you know.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, like, you know, I can run it.

[Adam Curry]

Buyer Bob.

[John C. Dvorak]

I can run it. Buyer Bob.

[Adam Curry]

I can run a buyer Bob.

[John C. Dvorak]

You can see we get anything if you run it by her. No, I know. Or she's not going to say anything.

[Adam Curry]

She's not going to do it.

[John C. Dvorak]

She'll assure me she's not going to say anything, so I can run it by her. If she doesn't do it, she doesn't do it. If she does it, she does. We'll find out. So there, you know, that's exactly what goes on.

[Adam Curry]

Of course. Of course. And part of the meeting is always, how about, there's no agenda, guys? Nah, they're no good, those guys.

[John C. Dvorak]

They'll fuck it up anyway.

[Adam Curry]

Exactly. They'll deconstruct themselves. Before you know it, everybody's on to us. We can't do that, Bob. Can't do that. Yeah, no, I was just saying the. It was kind of related to the influencers that. The Fred freak off. I'm calling it that now. The Fredericksburg freak off. Everyone's all bent out of shape because influencers are out there again. Like they're building an entire Sharia law city right outside of Plano. You know, we know that they've not built anything. There's a mosque.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, they got some nice drawings.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, you can drive i10. You'll see a hundred mosques if you drive it long enough. There's mosques everywhere. But it's not like this city has been built and it's being. It's being projected now as it's here. It's sharia law. They want to take over. And. And so it got.

[John C. Dvorak]

So that's probably true.

[Adam Curry]

Well. Well, that may be true, but, you know, so Abbott had to come out and say, hey, they're not going to. They. They can't even start construction they have no permits. They don't have the authorization. So they're playing it legally. Because obviously in America, you know, if you want to have a big campus for your Scientology, you can do it. If you want to have a big campus for your Islam, you can do it now. You can't all of a sudden have different rule of law. And that's really what he's focusing on here. But it's just amazing how there's so much going on in the world and somehow these things just get spun up. Just spun up and, like, calm down. I'm tired of being the guy who say, come people are starting to not like me, you know, Fun Curry thought you were a conspiracy guy and you're just debunking everything.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. What happened to you?

[Adam Curry]

You're like, debunk bot. What happened is I got burned. I got burned one too many times. That's what happened. I got burned with the quantum dots, man. I got burned.

[John C. Dvorak]

The quantum dots. Yeah. Actually, that did change you.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah, it burned me because.

[John C. Dvorak]

How do you think Pagenic feels? He was on. He went on Alex Jones's show and brought this out. Yacked about it. And Alex was laughing in his face.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. But Pachenic never contacts me anymore. No. Not even a hey, how you doing?

[John C. Dvorak]

Ah, it's too bad. He should have been able to snap out of it. I think he was really burned bad, but it was. He just kind of like, I don't even know. Feel this snap back from that.

[Adam Curry]

I don't even know if he does anything anymore. I think it just kind of retired, like, slunk back into the shadows.

[John C. Dvorak]

He needs to snap out of it anyway.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. I still love Steve. He's got good stories. He's a funny guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's a great.

[Adam Curry]

He's got. He's got good stories. So lots of action in Europe because, you know, now that President Trump is trying to get things to calm down between Russia and Ukraine, the mod squad had to get together. That's Mertz and. Yes, thank you, everybody. We know that Friedrich Mertz indeed has the same initials as Fred Mertz of I Love Lucy. That was. That was a big email I got. Can't believe you missed it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. How'd you miss that?

[Adam Curry]

How'd you miss that one? Mertz, Macron, Starmer and Tusk. Tusk of Poland. Yeah. Tusk in Poland. Yeah. They all went to. In Kiev. Kiev. To a little meeting.

[C]

Four European allies of Ukraine on Saturday.

[Adam Curry]

Vowed to impose more sanctions on Russia and increase military aid to Kiev if.

[John C. Dvorak]

Russian President Vladimir Putin does not accept.

[C]

An unconditional 30 day ceasefire. The leaders under the umbrella of the coalition of the willing said that their proposal for a ceasefire starting on Monday was supported by US President Donald Trump.

[Adam Curry]

So we are clear, all five leaders here, all the leaders of the meeting we just had with the coalition of the willing. I'm sorry, I should have said the leaders of the coalition of the willing. Anybody else in Europe, just listen up because these are your new leaders. An unconditional ceasefire rejecting Putin's conditions and clear that if he turns his back on peace, we will respond. The move appeared to have ramped up pressure on Russia as President Putin hours.

[C]

Later called for direct talks with Ukraine without preconditions.

[Adam Curry]

Now I'm pretty sure you have some stuff on that too, but I just want to get through what happened in this 24 hour period. Then Fred Mertz, he came out and kind of wishy washy talked about, well, you know, you can put it, we'll get you into EU and then after that maybe NATO. I think if you know something like that.

[C]

I share the assessment of the Secretary General when it comes to membership for Ukraine. I would like to add that Ukraine has an accession perspective for the European Union. I think in terms of time frames this will be before accession to NATO if it happens one day. And it needs to be clear that Ukraine decides in a sovereign way on the path it wants to take. It has decided to file for membership of the European Union. You know the criteria for such an accession and if Ukraine fulfills these criteria, it is a welcome member within the European Union. Ukraine is and has to remain a sovereign actor deciding on its own political and military alliances.

[Adam Curry]

In other words, no. This is just a big fat no. Now, you're not going to get in. You're not going to get in NATO. You know, you can file, you can file, but you have to be sovereign. No, that's a big no. He's standing next to while he's doing the speech. Of course, if you've got the coalition of the willing, our boy Margaret is right there. Well, the whole of NATO agreed on the irreversible path for Ukraine into NATO, but we never agreed that as part of a peace deal. Volodymyr Zelensky. We've never agreed you can get into NATO's. There would be guaranteed NATO membership for Ukraine. No, no, never agreed. That was never said, dudes. Never, never. But in the long term, NATO alliance has said yes. There will be this perspective of NATO, NATO membership perspective. Yes. Maybe if you're a good Boy, for the longer term, not for the, for the peace negotiations ongoing at, at the moment. No, as I said before, I'm happy that the American president and glad that he, my boss, broke the deadlock, that progress is being made. And I completely agree with the German Chancellor on the 30 day ceasefire. And that bull is now clearly in Russia's court. Oh no. Oh no, it is the half court, not the full court. What are you talking about, Mark? That will piss off John C. On, on the Zeit Russias you put it. That's exactly true. And, and at the moment there is a close cooperation between, between NATO and Ukraine. We have to command in Wiesbane which is organizing the military aid into Ukraine. We organize together and jointly the training Ukrainian armed forces. We are teaching all the lessons which we are gathering in Ukraine together with Ukrainians in our center in Poland. So there's a lot happening, a lot happening at the moment. So no to NATO you're not going to get in, but we gave you some NATO goodies for your man. So shut up a little bit bit. And of course, of course Ritter could not leave the meeting without a little sales pitch. I know there are many rumors floating around. It's true that we are having intel discussions now within NATO. What will be the best way to make sure that we can fulfill all our tasks as NATO we're going forth in the future. Including of course given the fact that we acknowledge the long term threat Russia is posing. So, so it will mean an absolute increase in defense spending. So we're not going to confirm the figures. So don't worry about the true sort of ceasefire. They're long term threat. You need to spend your money. Obviously when you increase defense spending you have to think about all the enabling. Oh yes. Oh yes. No, it's not just bullets. It's a lot of stuff, man to defense. And yes, I've always said this. If we stick at the 2% we cannot defend ourselves. We have to, to really increase defense increase. But that is not enough. We also have to build the defense industrial base. They go hand in hand because a strong deterrence and defense we can defend ourselves now. But to be able in five years time to also five years to defend ourselves and to keep the deterrence and defense at the level we need. We need only to spend much more but also to build that defense industrial base across the Atlantic, across the whole Euro Atlantic area, including the United States and Canada and all the European countries in NATO. It's crucial we should do both. I said it before. The Russians are producing in three months in ammunition. But the whole of NATO, which is 25 times bigger, 25 times bigger than Russia in terms of the overall economy reproducing one year in ammunition, what they produce in three months. So not sustainable. So just both spending and more production. The message is clear.

[John C. Dvorak]

That guy getting working on commission.

[Adam Curry]

No, he's not smart enough for that. He. It's all for him.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know, he seems pretty smart to me, the more I hear it.

[Adam Curry]

Well, according to our President, he's a great guy. Was a great Prime Minister of the Netherlands. He's just awesome. He's just. Mark, Mark, you were the best. Great job, man. Just great.

[John C. Dvorak]

Typical show businessing. Typical of Trump too.

[Adam Curry]

I'm a fan of. Big fan your work, man. Big fan of your work.

[John C. Dvorak]

I've worked with a lot of different people. You're. You're absolutely the best. No, it's unbelievable. I really feel privileged to be here in your presence.

[Adam Curry]

The line is, big fan of your work, man. Big fan.

[John C. Dvorak]

Big fan of your work.

[Adam Curry]

Big fan, big fan, big, big fan of your work. Whenever you hear that, that's a, that's a Hollywood bull crap.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Pull up your trousers. Stepping in it.

[Adam Curry]

So, of course, is what everyone's looking at right now. You have a Putin clip here. You got something?

[John C. Dvorak]

I got a couple. I got two clips. One, the shorty from BBC World News or World Service. Sorry, let's start with that.

[Adam Curry]

In the past few minutes, President Putin.

[C]

Has appeared live on television saying Russia seeks serious talks with Ukraine to remove.

[John C. Dvorak]

The root causes of the conflict.

[Adam Curry]

He said he was offering immediate direct.

[C]

Talks with Ukraine to take place in.

[Adam Curry]

The Turkish city of istanbul next Thursday, 15 May.

[C]

He said he had never rejected dialogue with Kyiv.

[Adam Curry]

Details are still coming, by the way. While the BBC is waiting for details, whenever you're ready. I have a bullet point translation of Putin's speech, his press conference.

[John C. Dvorak]

I only have one more clip and you can go right after that. I just thought that that particular BBC clip, which was kind of to the point, just contradicted everything but. Okay, let's go to npr. And this is the Russia, Ukraine, Little Diddy.

[C]

European leaders in Ukraine today pressed Russian President Putin to accept a 30 day unconditional ceasefire or face sanctions. And here's Joanna Kakis reports. The leaders say President Trump also supports this proposal. The leaders of France, Germany, the United Kingdom and Poland traveled to Kyiv. In their first joint appearance, they joined Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky for a meeting of Western nations supporting Ukraine. Other leaders participated Online via video link. Zelensky and the four European leaders in Kyiv also called President Trump. Zelensky told reporters Trump supports the ceasefire proposal. It's quite possible to monitor this ceasefire in coordination with the United States. Zelensky said the ceasefire could start as early as Monday if Russia agrees to it. However, the Kremlin says it will oppose a ceasefire unless Western countries stop providing military aid to Ukraine.

[Adam Curry]

So very poor from NPR and BBC. I mean, we have the best producers who speak Russian and translate stuff for us. So here's a multi bully point, bullet point of Russian President Putin's press conference in order of appearance. The Kiev regime has repeatedly violated the 30 day moratorium on attacks on energy facilities. The Easter truce was violated more than 5,000 times. Moscow has repeatedly put forward ceasefire initiatives. Kiev has sabotage them. Russia has considered a further ceasefire based on Kyiv's behavior during previous ceasefires. Since May 6, the Kyiv authorities have launched large scale attacks on Russia 524 drones. During the days of the declared ceasefire, Ukraine has repeatedly attempted to attack the state border of the Russian Federation. All attacks have been repelled. The attacks were carried out solely for political reasons. The enemy suffered heavy losses. The Kiev authorities not only rejected the ceasefire proposals, but also tried to intimidate the foreign leaders gathered in Moscow. That was on the 8th. Who were they trying to intimidate? The leaders who came to us were not leaders by position, but by character. And they were threatened by those who elevate former SS men to the rank of heroes. Russia is grateful to all foreign leaders for their efforts to end the Ukrainian conflict. The Kiev regime has repeatedly violated the 30 day moratorium on attacks. Hold on, I got that part. The Ukrainian armed forces should not rearm and dig in during the ceasefire. The decision is up to the leadership of Ukraine and their curators who want to continue the war with the hands of the Ukrainian nationalists. President Putin proposes Ukraine resume direct negotiations without any preconditions. We propose to begin Thursday, May 15 in Istanbul, the very place where they are interrupted in 2022. Our offer is on the table now. It is up to the Ukrainian authorities and their handlers.

[John C. Dvorak]

This brings me to. This is interesting. But the interesting part is the 524 drones, which brings me to a clip that I had produced about a month ago. Maybe you can try looking it up.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

Which we never played on the show, which was about drones, drones being produced in Ukraine by a factory there. And they've got. They're making drones and you know, they're not using Iranian drones or anybody else's. Drones. They're actually making drones by the drone, by the tons. And this is like their new business that they do. And it's never been talked about since I have the.

[Adam Curry]

This is from last month. Yeah, two clips could be now. During recent talks in Saudi Arabia, both Kyiv and Moscow confirmed their commitments to stop attacking each other. Infrastructure, energy infrastructure. But Ukrainian President Zelensky has already accused Russia of violating that agreement. And Ukraine. It says Ukraine drone maker.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, well, maybe it is. I just don't remember. It's so long I can remember how the clip's structured.

[Adam Curry]

Question, is it willing to ground its long range drones used to strike oil facilities? The BBC's Abdul Jalil Abdurasulov has visited a secret Ukrainian facility where they make them. At a secret location, Ukrainian engineers work on the development of new long range drones. They drill, glue and assemble parts of a model called Rayburns. This drone can cover a distance of more than 1000km and stay in the air for up to 28 hours.

[C]

So it can can easily reach cities like Moscow.

[Adam Curry]

Raybird is effectively a spy aircraft. Roman Knezhenko, the head of Skyton, the company that develops these drones, the idea.

[John C. Dvorak]

Was to create the system that can.

[C]

Control and monitor big areas or extended areas like borders of the country and so on. And it's one of the most advanced system in the world right now. Now in terms of reconnaissance, it's not too many aircrafts able to work so deep on the enemy territory.

[Adam Curry]

Raybird identifies targets and directs fire. Among the targets are Russia's oil refineries and fuel depots.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, yeah, that brings us to the point that was just made when Putin, according to the list of talking points, said that they're still attacking the energy infrastructure. These drones are the ones that responsible. And that also connects to the 524 drones that were launched against Russia, whether they're ballistic or not. I just found that's what that information triggered. My thoughts on this old clip that we never addressed. But let's play the second part.

[Adam Curry]

Well, so he refers to the 2022 talks in Istanbul. Isn't that where Boris Johnson thwarted everything? Or was that before Bori Johnson went.

[John C. Dvorak]

Straight to Kyiv to do that?

[Adam Curry]

Hmm, I'm not sure. I don't really remember. I can't honestly don't remember them doing the talks in Istanbul at all. I have one more clip here. This is former Ukrainian negotiator Volker.

[C]

A meeting between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin is clearly on the radar. The Kremlin Spokane spokesperson said. But as Moscow Seems to be sending the signals on his willingness to meet the US President. What is the response from Washington? Former US Special representative for Ukraine negotiations told euronews Donald Trump would want to meet Putin as well, but under certain conditions.

[John C. Dvorak]

I do think he would like to meet Putin, but after there's a ceasefire, he wants to end the war and then he would like to rebuild a relationship with Russia. He thinks that you could reintegrate Russia into a global economy. You could do business deals with Russia. But Putin has to stop the war first. And as Putin is not doing that, the. The prospects for a Trump Putin meeting are looking farther and farther away.

[Adam Curry]

Hmm. It doesn't seem to me that the EU and their aspiring entrant Ukraine really want peace. It just doesn't seem.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I think we've determined that already on this show.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

That the EU is a bunch of warmongers and they don't want peace.

[Adam Curry]

They want.

[John C. Dvorak]

And they're going to do anything to stop it.

[Adam Curry]

They want to spends more money on military stuffs. It's sad.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, you know, they get their. Their titan a ringer for doing stuff like this.

[Adam Curry]

You know, we were talking about the. About a big fan of your work just staying in Europe, but really this is more about tariffs with. With Queen Ursula. This is our president complimenting the queen. Are you planning to meet Ursula Von.

[John C. Dvorak]

Der Leyen, the president, or the European Council anytime soon? Oh, she's so fantastic.

[Adam Curry]

Right? She's so fantastic. I hope we're going to meet. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

The answer is yes. I saw her actually.

[Adam Curry]

I saw her a few days ago.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I think that we'll definitely meet.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

The European Union is big. Think they want to make a deal very badly.

[Adam Curry]

You know, everybody wants to make a deal.

[John C. Dvorak]

Look, everybody wants to make a deal with the United States and we're doing that and we're making. We're going to make fair deals. I'm just honored that this was the first one.

[Adam Curry]

I just love her, man. I'm a big fan of her work. Ursula, Queen Ursula. She's the best.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, as you remember from the Cochran clip where, you know, he looks. Trump is a natural at finding weak spots.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's obvious by her hairdo and the way she handles herself that she is. She would love to be flattered.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, well, it's funny you say that because they asked Queen Ursula about this.

[John C. Dvorak]

If after Trump, President Trump yesterday said that yourself, it's. You are a fantastic leader. Do you think that now you. You are closer to visiting the White House? And what could. When that could that be so?

[C]

Thank you very.

[John C. Dvorak]

Much.

[C]

I like compliments in general. So, yeah, negotiations, as always, nothing is negotiated till everything is negotiated. So it's against the simple rules of negotiations. If you give in between details which are not totally agreed now with the whole package. Therefore, unfortunately, I will of course not go into, into any kind of details, but this is all, all the negotiations in the very end have to be concluded. We were always transparent from the very beginning. We always said we prefer negotiated solution, but we also develop countermeasures and this is now the process where we have to develop these countermeasures to put this instrument on the table. We have other instruments on the table. We will not take anything off the table table till we have a satisfactory result. But I, for me, it's important that if I go to the White House, I want to have a package.

[Adam Curry]

I've got instruments on the table and I want a package. You're gonna get a package.

[John C. Dvorak]

Who wants a package bad?

[Adam Curry]

You're gonna get the package. I'm pretty sure you get the package. So. You're right.

[John C. Dvorak]

She must be. Be easy to. She must be an easy sell because she's the one. Even though, I mean, she's good at covering it up. But that deal that she made for the vaccines.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, that's going to come out. No, the. What's the.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know that's ever going to come out.

[Adam Curry]

Well, the, the crazy, not crazy, but the German woman in the EU Parliament with the black hair, the short black hair. What's her name? You know what I'm talking about. She's like this, this is no good. She's. She's finally got her commission together. What's her name again?

[John C. Dvorak]

Again, I don't know.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, she's, she's, she's a bulldog. Hold on a second. EU commission, Vaccines. Covid. Come on, what is her name? You know her name. I can't. Some come on, troll room. Anyway, she, she finally has her, has her commission or committee, commission, whatever it is. And she's out on the social saying it's all going to come out. We're going to get to SMS gate.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Because I'm predicting nothing's going to come of it.

[Adam Curry]

Well, you're so skeptical. The Epstein docs are going to drop any day.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm waiting for that one. And the millions of tapes. Have you noticed Bill Gates starting to show up all over the place talking about his $200 million?

[Adam Curry]

Interesting you say that for first.

[John C. Dvorak]

First of all, just a background. First of all, he shows up on NPR's News Hour or sorry, PBS NewsHour with. And he's interviewed by the woman there. And she's. He's going on and on. He's sitting there with some douche. That is the head of the new guy, never seen him before, the head of the Gates Foundation. And they're going on about he's gonna drop. I'm gonna drop 200 billion. I'm gonna drop it.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

And then he shows up on Colbert all of a sudden. And all this came, coincidentally, all came up after Pam Bondi shows up with her. Oh, I got, we got 10,000 videotapes of all these guys screwing girls. What are we gonna do with it? We're going through them one by one. It'll take a while.

[Adam Curry]

So he's gonna close the foundation?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

He's gonna give away all his money.

[John C. Dvorak]

Twilighted or something. Moonlighted or. I forget the term he uses.

[Adam Curry]

But I don't think I'm looking at the. Oh, let's see what his social looking at Bloomberg talking about it. Bill Gates plans to give away virtually all his $113 billion. Here's the impacts. But it doesn't, doesn't say it, but he, but had. I don't understand. This guy's given away all his money a hundred times with Buffett, and then Buffett again.

[John C. Dvorak]

And then he's really, he's made this a profit center somehow, big time.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I, I, I agree with you. I thought that was really interesting. Like the minute this kind of heats up in, in Epstein land, he's like, I'm gonna give away him. There's no money. There's no money.

[John C. Dvorak]

Look at me. Look at me. I'm great. Nobody's gonna hate a guy who can give away this kind of money to help the poor.

[Adam Curry]

Well, how about that? And I'm closing it down so I can take some and get on my yacht and sail away. That's what you want to do?

[John C. Dvorak]

Get on your people investigating non extradition countries as we speak.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. What's a good one to go to for him?

[C]

Him?

[John C. Dvorak]

Argentina.

[Adam Curry]

Hey, speaking of the south, this kind of slipped by us, but did you, did you even follow this story from Rubio and the Venezuelan hostages?

[John C. Dvorak]

No.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, he listened to this. Right now we're following breaking news.

[John C. Dvorak]

Secretary of State Marco Rubio is announcing the rescue of five opposition members from Venezuela. Rubio posted on X saying that following an operation, all the members are on US soil tonight. The opposition group had been taking shelter at the Argentine Embassy in Caracas for more than a Year to avoid arrest.

[Adam Curry]

By the Maduro regime.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's still not clear how the opposition.

[Adam Curry]

Members exited the embassy. This is language. This is setting up for something. When you say he rescued them, the operation, what was this? Was this like with helicopters and black ops? What happened here? Here have gotten nothing since this report.

[John C. Dvorak]

Has to be some sort of black op where you have the guys in sky.

[Adam Curry]

Is it though? Or is it just, you know, setting. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. That Venezuela is being set up for something. Possibly. Possibly.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, they do have to find these mechanisms to sneak people out of the embassies around the world in both all countries. You got somebody in there trying to get out of there.

[Adam Curry]

That's another thing. I just love the Fred Free off networks. So the latest, you know, USAID never.

[John C. Dvorak]

Went away, by the way, that the freak freakout network in the nearby communities there is a gold mine.

[Adam Curry]

It's the best show. It's the best. And I tell them flat out, I'm talking about this on the show. They're like, yeah, you should. Because it's important.

[John C. Dvorak]

You should. No, that's exactly what you would say if you're that type of person. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But get the word out.

[Adam Curry]

These are my friends. I love, love them, but I laugh at them. Right? I'm like, oh, come on, man. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This. So the latest is us. USAID never went away. It just all got folded into the State Department and Rubio is not to be trusted. To which I actually had to say.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, well, that's a reasonable thought.

[Adam Curry]

That's.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, not out of control.

[Adam Curry]

They actually did close down usaid and the people like Samantha Powers are no longer in control of it. But yes, of course, USAID was a CIA slush fund then the State Department is the CIA home.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, the State Department has their own agency. They're not the CIA's home necessarily.

[Adam Curry]

They work together. But all the embassies is where the spooks go in. I mean, let's just be honest about it. They work very closely together. And you know Rubio. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Who knows? We'll find out about Rubio. So that was one. What's the other one? Oh, Susie. Susie Wiles.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Snake. She's Snake.

[John C. Dvorak]

Snake.

[Adam Curry]

She's a snake. She's not to be trusted. She's the chief of staff. Susie Wiles, she's.

[John C. Dvorak]

There used to be a football announcer named Summerhall Summerhill. Summerhall. What the hell is his last name? Very famous. He used to work With John Madden on the NFL broadcasts. That's their dad.

[Adam Curry]

Oh yeah. I think we knew that somehow.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

So. Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

So she had broadcasting chops.

[Adam Curry]

I guess my, my overall observation is, is that there's a lot of, you know, now everyone's looking, who can we trust? Who can we trust? Who can we not trust? There's snakes everywhere. There's stuff going on. There's lots of things now, of course, you know, so then they'll ask me like, what do you think about the chemtrails? Like, well that's real, obviously. So, you know, I'm on their side too, too. But the, the Fred, the Fred Freak out or freak off network is amazing. I love it. I love, I love them. I love it. And they always come to me if they need to be calmed down. Except chemtrail's like, no, that's, that's not real, man.

[John C. Dvorak]

Calm them down about that. Spraying us up.

[Adam Curry]

They're spraying us like bugs worse than you think. Now this, I made a call, I made a big call out and I called out our producers. I'm like, what are you, how, where are you people?

[John C. Dvorak]

People?

[Adam Curry]

Where are you people? And it happened.

[John C. Dvorak]

I hope you, I know what you're going to go into and I, I would hope that we have some information. I think this whole thing is a fraud. Delays mounted again at one of the nation's most important international hubs today. If only they could blame it all on the weather.

[C]

Our scopes just went black again. If you care about this, contact your airline and try to get some pressure.

[Adam Curry]

For them to fix this stuff.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sorry to hear about that. FedEx 19 for the third time in two weeks, radars failed at a facility in Philadelphia where controllers managed the airspace in and around Newark Airport. They were unable to see where planes.

[C]

Were in relation to one another and.

[John C. Dvorak]

It lasted for 90 seconds. The so called Philadelphia TRACON has been the center of controversy since the FAA.

[C]

Forced controllers who handle Newark to move.

[John C. Dvorak]

From a similar center on Long Island. It's their new digs loaded with technology.

[C]

That was state of the art in.

[John C. Dvorak]

The 1970s that have failed repeatedly leaving controllers traumatized and taking leave, thus reducing the number of flights allowed to fly to Newark. A necessary safety restriction that's led to hours long delays.

[Adam Curry]

Governor, it's been almost two weeks since the Newark airport incident.

[C]

Today. New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy ignored questions about the situation at his state's most important airport.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yesterday, U.S. transportation Secretary Sean Duffy used Newark as exhibit A in his multi billion dollar push to overhaul the entire nation's System.

[C]

You will see Newarks not just in.

[Adam Curry]

Newark, you'll see Newarks in other of parts, parts of the country because it's an aging system and so we have to actually upgrade it.

[John C. Dvorak]

But that coast to coast project will take years to complete. The White House stressing temporary fixes are.

[C]

Already underway to strengthen the resiliency of.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Philadelphia facility that's caused all this chaos.

[C]

The FAA are working to address these, this technical issue tonight to prevent further outages as well as install new fiber from Newark Airport to Philip Philadelphia. And the goal is to have the totality of this work done by the end of the summer.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, so the, that report actually buried the lead of our, our girl in the White House, Levitt. I need to play her entire one minute segment on this, this crisis.

[C]

Yes, I'm glad you asked about the FAA. There was a glitch in the system this morning.

[Adam Curry]

99 glitches.

[John C. Dvorak]

Glitch, glitch. It's just a glitch.

[Adam Curry]

And put a gosie on there, will you? So I do not accept from as much as we like you, Ms. Levitt saying it's a glitch is a cop out. It's bull crap. And of course not a single one of the journalists in the briefing room, including whoever was in the new media scene seat said what exactly is a glitch? Okay.

[C]

Yes, I'm glad you asked about the faa. There was a glitch in the system this morning, especially at Newark Airport. As you all know, I spoke to the Department of Transportation. That glitch was caused by the same telecoms and software issues that were raised last week. Everyone, everything went back online after the brief outage and there was no operational impact. DOT and the FAA are working to address this technical issue tonight to prevent further outages as well as install new fiber from Newark Airport to Philadelphia. And the goal is to have the totality of this work done by the end of the summer. There's a four part infrastructure plan that was released by the Secretary of Transportation yesterday to improve communication, surveillance, automation and their facilities. They want to replace the antiquated telecom system systems with new fiber, wireless and satellite technologies. Replace more than 600 radars which have gone way past their life cycle and address Runway safety. They want to build six new air traffic control centers for the first time since the 1960s and replace towers as well. They want to implement, excuse me, new modern hardware and software for all traffic facilities to create a common platform system throughout the towers.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, well John, you already guessed it, of course. They just happen to have this six year plan for all these radar systems and everything. I just have. I just released this today. It's coincidental. This is a total setup, total bullcrap. And I cite from our boots on the ground from not one but two air traffic controllers. They happen to live together, the anonymous controller and his anonymous controller wife. Because we have the best producers in the universe. And they said, hey, okay, we heard you. We thought it was such a non event, we didn't even bother to talk to you. But yes, of course it sounds like a couple of things. Possibly a scheduled outage, a work of sabotage to grab headlines for money. The controllers taking leave is nothing. Sick leave is abused by controllers regularly. Rarely are there any questions asked. So right there we already know that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Part of this reporting is scam alert bull crap.

[Adam Curry]

On the scheduled outage side, if there was a headline for every time an aircraft went nor do. And what is nordo? No, no operations radio something or other and frequencies went out momentarily, it would be as often as the weather segment on your local news station. An example of this when the Nashville RV bomber happened a few years back. That explosion affected our main frequency standbys and backups in four sectors, I believe affecting Memphis center frequencies as well, which is very busy. Mass chaos ensued after. However, regardless of what the Trump administration is trying to sell and the clips provided, the United States is the best ATC system in the world and we are the best controllers in the world. Foam finger number one. No one knows what this magic.

[John C. Dvorak]

Can I stop for a second?

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is the reason nobody wrote in right away.

[Adam Curry]

They thought it was like this is that.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is. He's expressing what it was. What? What? Why? Oh, should we send something in? No, this is common. This happens all the time. Well, why are we writing a note to Adam about this? Because he wants. So you had to bitch and moan and bitch and moan and bitch and moan. You finally got somebody to say, okay, here's the reason. Yes, that makes sense.

[Adam Curry]

Referring to Secretary Duffy. And I have the clip here. What is this magical system Duffy is talking about? No one knows. Reality is, even if it's passed tomorrow, it won't be implemented for 10 years and by then it's out of date. That's how government works. Again, you want to help ATC system, It's no keyboards or fancy screens. It's weather, ground, radar updates and comms. That's how you improve the system. Side note, we're huge. Trump supporters still don't understand understand what all this means or what it even looks like. And they listen to you, John. The antiquated radio systems, that's part of the problem. If the Trump administration is detailing plans for what it calls the biggest overhaul of air traffic traffic control in the country's history. NBC's Tom Costello is in Washington.

[John C. Dvorak]

Tom, it's a pretty tall task ahead, really is. And Secretary Sean Duffy says it will take three to four years and cost many billions of dollars. But the country must upgrade from its 50 year old ATC systems that really suffer serious glitches every single week. The plan calls for a brand new radio system, fiber optic data feeds and new radars. Radios and radars recently went down in Newark, leaving controllers in the dark. The DOT also wants to build new towers, new tracons, new Runway safety systems. The nation's airlines controller and pilot unions all support the plan, saying air travel unions, urgent upgrade and a safety fix.

[Adam Curry]

Keyword unions, all support the system. Yeah, okay. Yeah, it'll happen. They'll get them. They'll get them something. But the other shoe that will drop, I, I'm just waiting for it is this is because Pete Buddha judge did nothing. He was.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's the main thing that's coming.

[Adam Curry]

That's coming soon.

[John C. Dvorak]

Did you get the clip of Trump talking about him and his and his husband on the bike?

[Adam Curry]

No, no, I didn't, I didn't.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, damn it. I should try to go back and.

[Adam Curry]

Find that because Pete was 2, 2 obsessed with EV charging stations that's built. Oh. Colorado is joining 16 other states suing the Trump administration to free up funds to build electric car chargers.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now, the money was approved by Congress.

[Adam Curry]

But then President Trump froze it with an executive order. Colorado Attorney General Phil Weiser argues that's illegal for the administration to block the distribution of already approved funds. The state already had plans to spend tens of millions of dollars and he says without the, the money that it's going to be difficult to build out electric vehicle infrastructure. And I can just remind everybody why the billions of dollars was not spent on EV charging stations is because it was all earmarked for minority owned businesses. It was a DEI bill in disguise and they couldn't find any businesses that qualified to do the work. That's why the money was never spent.

[John C. Dvorak]

So that's a good point.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, makes sense.

[Adam Curry]

But still, it's, it's more fun to blame Pete Buttigieg.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now is the time not to do these things, by the way, especially if, you know, of course, I'm still skeptical of the Toyota solid state battery, but there's a battery supposedly Solid state. They call it solid state. It's, it's a, it's just a. It's a different engineered style of battery that supposedly goes. Supposedly. And it's not a super cap. No one's going to make those a super capacitor unless you want to see somebody blow up. Can you imagine you're looking out the freeway and there's just a car just blows up.

[Adam Curry]

For those of you who have never blown up a capacitor, it's a lot of fun. A super capacitor could create. Could create quite the explosion. I'm sure.

[John C. Dvorak]

A regular little capacitor. I've had it happen to me once in a computer.

[Adam Curry]

Oh yeah. Like one of those little blue ones or the yellow ones.

[John C. Dvorak]

It was a little. I don't know which one it was and I don't know what the capacity was because what was left of it, you couldn't tell.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. It's like paper wound and it stinks.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's like a cherry bomb going off inside the computer.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

And it's frightening.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Cause they pop. They really pop.

[John C. Dvorak]

Caps pop, baby, pop. So this new battery and Toyota's supposedly leading the pack. Even though BYD and these other guys want to try to keep up. BYD is probably could do it. But they're. It's supposed to have 10 minute charging.

[Adam Curry]

Oh yeah. As long as you have. As long as you're connected to a power station.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Well, there's always that. The other. Yes. The whole thing is you need a megawatt.

[Adam Curry]

You need a megawatt to charge it, but otherwise it's fine. You got one of those. Just plug it into your outlet. It'll work. It's going to melt the wires. Hey, what's your propaganda clips? I've been looking at those all morning. I'm like that.

[John C. Dvorak]

It says cool propaganda series of clips of npr. This. If you're ready for it.

[Adam Curry]

I'm ready.

[John C. Dvorak]

How much time we have before.

[Adam Curry]

No, we got plenty of time. We got oodles.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is my NPR trying to. NPR and PBS is trying to do anything they can to kind of make it clear that Trump's no good. Good. And that they're trying to take our money and they're trying to ruin broadcasting as we know it. But before we play that. I do want to play, for example.

[Adam Curry]

You do, you do want to play. You do want to play.

[John C. Dvorak]

I do. Now this clip is a mess because it's titled Untitled. So that's always a giveaway. And this was. I'm just. This is a Very short. These are all short clips, by the way. So this is, this will go pretty quick. This is an example of NPR at its finest. This is a woman comes on and she's going to discuss horror films and their effect on children and they're going to bring these experts on and talk about horror films and what can they do to children. And then that, and then I had to cut it for obvious reasons.

[C]

What's a healthy little scare for kids and what is potentially scarring? Well, we wanted to talk to two people who have had broadly different experiences when it comes to thinking about, about horror movies for kids. All Things Considered producer and film buff Megan Lim. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. And NPR music and pop culture critic and father of two young adults now, Stephen Thompson. Hey, hey, hey, hey.

[Adam Curry]

It's great to be here.

[C]

Great to have you both. Okay, so I don't have kids.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. She doesn't got kids. So who cares? So then we go to listen to npr and there and this is another example of this kind of thing. This is another seven second clip. This is NPR House ad. This is a House ad for the kind of programming that we're going to get that we need government money for. Imagine, if you will, a show from NPR that's not like npr, a show that focuses not on the important but the stupid.

[Adam Curry]

Wait, let me hear that again.

[John C. Dvorak]

Imagine, if you will, a show from NPR that's not like npr, a show that focuses not on the important but the stupid.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well, you cut it off, so I'm a little suspicious. You know, stupid.

[John C. Dvorak]

It wasn't anything. No, believe me, I didn't cut it off. Like, like Michelle Obama type clip. Okay, so we'll go to NPR leveraging Fed cut. Now here's where they start to bitch.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, you got, you've got a huge NPR thing today. This is good. I like, like it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, if you just trying to show people that, you know, if they send money to the no Agenda show is well spent.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

As opposed to this.

[C]

You may have heard that President Trump has issued an executive order seeking to block all federal funding to npr. This is the latest in a series of threats to media organizations across the country. Whatever changes this action brings, NPR, NPR's commitment to reporting the news without fear or favor will never change. Your support means that we'll be here for you tomorrow and the next day and the day after that. It's time to join the movement to defend public media.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Get the plus, get the bundle. Get the bundle. Become a concierge member so after complaining about them.

[John C. Dvorak]

So first. So they go after Trump by. You know, how else can we go after Radio Free Europe? So this starts with. Before we get to the propaganda clips, this is rfe. Rfe. This is a promo. This is a teaser for their RFE fighting RFE clips.

[C]

I think a lot of mainstream press might see us almost like primary source material. RFA's reporters have a history of uncovering genocide, war crimes and disinformation campaigns. They don't. They don't just follow the news cycle, they often lead it. And now they're fighting to survive.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, that's. But hold on, your no Agenda show has actual people who work in the places where the bull crap is taking place. Like air traffic controllers. Support your no Agenda show today.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. So now this is another promotion. This is RFE promotion. Radio Free Europe promotion number two.

[C]

Most of our media are owned by a handful of tech billionaires. But there's one place.

[Adam Curry]

No, that's not true. It's owned by Lie, Disney Soros or at least he has ownership in it.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's a lot of billionaires that own media, but not. I mean the New York Times is owned by a Mexican billionaire and some other billionaire.

[Adam Curry]

The LA Times is a Asian billionaire.

[John C. Dvorak]

Asian billionaire. Doctor, they're not tech billionaires. What tech billionaire owns major media? A major media company?

[Adam Curry]

Well, it's the only.

[John C. Dvorak]

Elon Musk owns Twitter. That's it.

[Adam Curry]

Well, the Washington Post. Washington Post, Yeah, Washington Post.

[John C. Dvorak]

Those are. No, that's not. Every. Every single one.

[Adam Curry]

Are you calling this fake?

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm sure. Go back to that clip. Start over.

[C]

Most of our media are owned by a handful of tech billionaires. But there's one place that still operates like the Internet was never invented. On the news. In a new season of the divided dial from on the media, we're exploring shortwave radio, where prayer and propaganda coexist with news and conspiracy theories and where an existential battle for the public airwaves is playing out right now. Listen to on the Media wherever you get your podcasts.

[Adam Curry]

Wow. Okay, first of all, this has been queued up in my podcast player for like four days and I didn't know what it was about cause I saw the divided dive dial. They are. They're really doing an in depth dive on what's on shortwave radio. As if anyone listens to the joke of it.

[John C. Dvorak]

As if everybody in Europe has got a shortwave radio and they're holed up in some attic and they're tuning in to the illegal broadcast coming in.

[Adam Curry]

The Dutch, the Dutch World Service. They shut down down all of their broadcast transmitters and towers in Bonaire because no one was listening to it. Everyone's on the Internet.

[John C. Dvorak]

Nobody listens to shortwave radio. It's 2025. Nobody is tuning in, looking for the broadcast to give us the truth. This is bullshit.

[Adam Curry]

I'm sure there's a couple of pastors there doing this thing. They probably are there.

[John C. Dvorak]

So here we go. So now we have. This is Short Wave coming to you from Texas. The Muslims are coming take over. So they want moaning groan about Radio Free Europe and Voice of America being shut down. They're gonna have to go broke. But then they go on to this propaganda series, which is the clips that you saw. Yes. About Radio Free Asia. No, I never heard of Radio Free Asia. But they make it sound as though this is the big deal.

[Adam Curry]

Is it on short wave? Is it on shortwave?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it's a short wave. All these Asians are all over Asian, Vietnam, Radio Free Asia. And they're in China, in the, in the outskirts of the rural China. And they've got the antenna that's out there. They hope they don't get caught. And they're tuning the dial on the short wave so they can get the truth. Wait, this is nonsense.

[Adam Curry]

Wait a minute. So they're doing what they're saying here. Just so I get it straight, they are trying to protect their own bacon by saying they're not just killing our funding, they're killing this critical information source for the rest of the world in these incredibly dictator led suppressed countries like, I don't know, South Korea, Japan, who now can't get the truth on shortwave.

[John C. Dvorak]

Exactly. You nailed it. That's exactly what. This is what they're trying to do here. And, and so they're bringing up. But it's like a vision of the 1940s or 30s where the guy again is in the attic trying to tune in the radio. The truth that's coming across. So let's listen to this propaganda which is. Which came across NPR and Radio Free Asia Part 1 from Recorded Future News. This is.

[C]

Click here. You may not remember, but Covid began as a mystery illness. Growing concern.

[John C. Dvorak]

Stop the clip.

[Adam Curry]

Am I doing it wrong?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, you're doing it right. I just had to. I forgot I had to set this one up. They start off. This is what's a great. This is a great clip. They start off. It's just going to be a Covid ex. I'm listening. Oh, this is going to be interesting. It's going to be a retrospective on how they screwed up the COVID coverage. And all of a sudden they switch gears like you did earlier in the show when you switched over from the fact you didn't pick the right pope to, to, you know, your, your prediction about the erectile dysfunction. Beautifully. They do the same thing. And it's not about COVID it's about Radio Free Asia. I don't know how they got that.

[C]

From recorded Future News.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is.

[C]

Click here. You may not remember, but Covid began as a mystery illness. Growing concern about a new and rare pneumonia like virus that has caused at least two deaths and has spread from China. China to other countries in Asia. We suddenly noticed that there was a surge of, you know, pings, people trying to reach us from inside Wuhan. And this was because they were getting no.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, man, hold on. Pings? You mean someone was sending him email or a WhatsApp message? What kind of pings?

[John C. Dvorak]

A ping.

[Adam Curry]

It was like a radar, like a sonar or something.

[C]

People trying to reach us from inside Wuhan. And this was because they were getting no information from, you know, own government about what was happening around them. And they knew that something was happening. The Chinese government was trying to cover something up. Turns out it was COVID deaths.

[Adam Curry]

Wow.

[C]

They reported, you know, a few thousand at the time. And our reporters called the crematories in the Wuhan area and got the numbers of, you know, the numbers of urns that they were putting out, talked to people on the ground and basically found that the numbers number was 100 times that. And they put that out. And it was not until a couple weeks later that US Intelligence reports actually confirmed that. And it was reported by cnn.

[Adam Curry]

Hold on, John. I'm getting some pings. I'm getting a surge of pings.

[John C. Dvorak]

They're trying to contact you from Wuhan. So you think that this is a guy. Oh, this is going to be interesting. It's going to be a expose or something or other. But no, here we go. Here's what it really is about.

[C]

And it was reported. Reported by cnn. Bay says that Radio Free Asia has had that kind of impact, not just on policy and world events, but in fighting against China's dis and misinformation.

[John C. Dvorak]

How do you make that switch?

[Adam Curry]

Let me hear that again. That was, that was pretty quick. That was. I mean, it took me at least a minute and a half. They did it in like 30. It was like 15 seconds.

[C]

And it was reported by CNN. Bay says that Radio Free Asia has, has had that kind of impact, not just on policy and world events, but in fighting against China's dis and misinformation.

[Adam Curry]

Campaigns, which by the way, everybody was all in on, it was xenophobia to even suggest it came from China. But okay, so when the news came.

[C]

That the Trump administration was trying to pull the plug, they was surprised it was on a Saturday. So I.

[Adam Curry]

What was that laugh telling about.

[C]

Trying to pull the plug? They was surprised it was on a Saturday. So I was just at home and got this email from Carrie Lake saying that our grants had been terminated because we no longer effectuate the priorities of the administration. And so what was the first thing.

[John C. Dvorak]

That went through the your head?

[C]

The first thing that went through my head was how is it that we don't effectuate the priorities of the administration anymore? And you know, when everything I've heard, especially in the national security space in the administration is, is that we are, are very impactful and important. This grant, $60 million is our annual budget that we're given and it's peanuts compared with the billions of dollars that China puts in every year into its global media influence campaign. After the news about ending RFA's funding was announced, the state owned media in China sent off a flurry of posts flurry with social media post celebrating this decision. Basically they are happy because one of the strongest voices that challenges their narrative is gone.

[Adam Curry]

Wow, this is really interesting. I'm sure they won't talk about it, but just to bring in the Obama era overturning of the Smith Mundt action fact, it was specifically for these types of operations for Radio Free Europe, Radio Free Asia, Voice of America. It was specifically modernized, I. E. Didn't count anymore because the US government is not allowed to propagandize its own people. And they realized it was all the stuff they were doing on the Internet, Internet that they would probably be propaganda propagandizing the American people. And they needed to do it because they really need to do it. And it was actually a bonanza for them. And so we all know that this is bull crap. And, and now they're all high and mighty like, well, you know, this is important stuff that was, this is like Tokyo Rose, America style.

[John C. Dvorak]

Who are they? Totally Tokyo.

[Adam Curry]

Who are they kidding?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah. And they think the Chinese are dumb, I guess.

[Adam Curry]

And, and by the way, what influence does the Chinese propaganda arm have? I mean it's not ntd. What, what do they have here?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, they have cgtv, which used to be CCTV and that, and they have a new show and it's, you know, it's, it's, it's kind of like the BBC, only it doesn't have a lot of stuff on it.

[Adam Curry]

BBC is actually, they don't even have any podcasters on their, on their page role. Like Russia, Russia had some podcasters.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, they might, but we just don't. They're doing a better job.

[Adam Curry]

Again, again, no offers.

[John C. Dvorak]

Where's. Where's our money?

[Adam Curry]

Where's our offer? Yeah, all right. Sorry.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm sorry. I just, it's just, it's, it's, it's laughable, this whole thing.

[C]

If Radio Free Asia stops broadcasting, lots of important news will go uncovered. Not just mystery virus in Wuhan or detentions in Xinjian, but more immediate events like what's going on in the streets of Burma right now. These are all things that the authoritarian rulers of these countries would like to hide because theyyou know, the Chinese Communist Party is most afraid of is its own people. And for their people to lose the knowledge of what their government is doing, what's happening around them. And it's, it's hugely beneficial to, to the Chinese Communist Party and to all of these authoritarian rulers around Asia.

[Adam Curry]

Do they provide any proof of how incredibly beneficial it is to these people who have better Internet technologies than we do?

[John C. Dvorak]

They provide no proof. And there's a contradiction in what she said, which is that the Chinese government's afraid of its own people. People. Well, if that. Yeah, maybe. I mean, every government should be afraid their own people. But what have these guys done to stir up the masses? I don't see any evidence of it.

[Adam Curry]

No, they, they.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, the Uyghurs are still imprisoned. If they're there, we don't know any details. The Wuhan virus is a scam.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. And since when?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it was always a wet market. Where'd that information come from? And what did the Radio Free Asia have to do with it?

[Adam Curry]

The Pangolin.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now, now we go to clip four, which has got a what I call a WTF moment.

[C]

And the situation for Radio Free Asia has gone from dire to devastating.

[Adam Curry]

On May 2, RFA told its staff.

[C]

That it was eliminating 280 positions in the United States. That's about 90% of its domestic workforce. And it's also cutting 20 more jobs. Jobs overseas.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, let's look at what is a.

[Adam Curry]

Do the numbers here.

[John C. Dvorak]

KCBS, which does news 247 in the San Francisco Bay area. Just news, news, news.

[Adam Curry]

So they got 18 people?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, they got a hundred. About 100. Yeah, but they don't have, for example, this is Radio Free Asia. And they're bragging about all their coverage is there. Or do they have reporters over there? Because they said they laid out 280, which is 90% of their workforce force that were all in the United States. What are they doing?

[Adam Curry]

They're receiving. Making phone calls, receiving surges of pings.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean the daily newspaper has maybe a major, major giant paper that produces tons of material like the Los Angeles. Tiny people. No, they got about a thousand go.

[Adam Curry]

A thousand at the Los Angeles Times.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, actually I think the Los Angeles Times probably closer to 1500 to 2000. But that includes PR, printing press people. Yeah, sales people, you know, editors. And on top of editors as the number of reporters is probably a couple hundred max.

[Adam Curry]

People who organize meetings.

[John C. Dvorak]

Meetings guys.

[Adam Curry]

AV people for the meetings.

[John C. Dvorak]

Copy editors, Catering.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. People to polish microphones.

[John C. Dvorak]

More than a new. You know, I. Compared to a radio station like KCB is I think more apt.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

And that's maybe 150, maybe 200. And that includes sales guys. And they. And these guys don't need sales people. That's a lot of people.

[Adam Curry]

Well, question. Do they have any video products or is it just all. All audio?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, it's just all short.

[Adam Curry]

Well, they.

[John C. Dvorak]

Short way.

[Adam Curry]

Well, they do websites too. I'm sure they.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, they do websites. You're right. They all have to gone to websites. So there's websites here and there. And I guess it takes a webmaster. Remember that term?

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Who's your webmaster? Oh, we don't use. We don't use that term here. We have a web mistress. Remember that?

[John C. Dvorak]

I only remember that vaguely because that was. There was some. Some people were uppity about using the term master.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. I'm looking to see if they have any video products. Have any video. Let me see. Video. Yeah, video. Let's take a look at their video products. Products. Dalai Lama in New York.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. That's going to free the people of China.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, they got.

[John C. Dvorak]

Talking about the Dalai Lama.

[Adam Curry]

They're doing. They got some guy in a webcam here. Okay, so not a lot of video process. Yeah. So it's mainly audio and web stuff. Man. Think about what we could do with that kind of thing.

[John C. Dvorak]

What was their budget? 16. Some other ClipWatch they don't have on this series. They said we're going to go bankrupt. All right, so let's play the. This is the. This is the last clip, which has a kicker.

[C]

Beifong called it an unconscionable situation. And it's unclear what will happen next, but a May 6 announcement might provide a clue. Senior presidential advisor Kerry Lake, the person who told RFA in an email back.

[John C. Dvorak]

In March that their grants had been.

[C]

Canceled, said Voice of America, another federally funded broadcaster would be taking in a new news feed. She said One America News Network, a reliably pro Trump television channel, would be providing news feeds for Voice of America's foreign audiences at no taxpayer cost.

[Adam Curry]

Wow.

[C]

It's unclear whether outlets like Radio for Europe and RFA will be swept in that move, too.

[Adam Curry]

Wow.

[John C. Dvorak]

Unreported.

[Adam Curry]

It tells you a lot a bit about that outfit, doesn't it?

[John C. Dvorak]

You heard it here first.

[Adam Curry]

Wow.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. One American news. The schlockmeister, the girl with too much makeup and the other guy was always angry. And then Chanel Rion and some of these other people that do interviews. And by the way, they have an OAN feed here in the Bay Area that comes over the air. It's always a week old.

[Adam Curry]

Wow.

[John C. Dvorak]

Everything that comes over is a week old. It's like, it's very strange. I don't know why they do a week old news, but so oan, which is a, you know, it's sometimes fun to watch, but it's fourth rate.

[Adam Curry]

Well, let's, let's see what OAN has today. They've got top news. They got multiple Dem lawmaker arrests on the table after storming ICE facility. Let's see. Report online users praise. Photo of Carolyn Levitt feeding baby while working. Uh huh. Okay. Yeah. Look at her. Super mom. She's super mom. Gold rush 2.0 record prices, jewelry meltdowns and a Bitcoin boom. U.S. postal Service 3.3 billion. This is good news. It's good stuff.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, it's news.

[Adam Curry]

Well here.

[John C. Dvorak]

If it's free and you're going to give it to Voice of America, you don't have to pay all these, all these characters, all kinds of extra money. Money.

[Adam Curry]

Well, they. Yeah, they have my favorite story front and center. Apple's plan to offer AI search options on Safari. A blow to Google dominance. Who could have seen that coming? Alphabet shares dropped 7% after Apple says FQ Eddie Q is now the spokeshole for this stuff.

[John C. Dvorak]

You remember Eddie Q. Oh, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Eddie Q used to be in charge of podcasting. He was, he was the itunes guy. He's now the senior vice president of Internet software and services. And he said, yeah, I'm pretty sure we're going to have artificial intelligence services instead of Google search. They pay Google. Google pays them $7 billion a quarter, I think some astronomical amount. How come Apple shares didn't sink.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it's saving Google money.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. But Google shares go down, down, and.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, it's because those advertisements have ads. And I mean, I'm sorry, those searches results have ads which Google monetized. And so Google probably makes three times the 7 billion that they.

[Adam Curry]

I wonder. You've really got to wonder about Apple. I've always thought that these guys, they, they, for some reason, they really want to be in the advertising game. They've always kind of dipped their toe in, taken it up. I think they really want. Want it. They re. That that's somehow. It must irk them that Google has all that advertising money where.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, that could be.

[Adam Curry]

You know, they, they definitely, you know, once you, you start putting all this AI on your phone, I don't think it's a good idea because. Because, you know, it's not about displaying.

[John C. Dvorak]

These guys are making money off of our backs.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Because it's not about. They are literally. Because all of the apps that. The apps are the things that are tracking. They're tracking your. How you. Where you're walking or driving or all of this stuff. So they're like, well, we can sell that data and. But don't worry, we'll keep it on our exclusive little secure chip on your phone. It'll never leave your phone. I gotta wonder. Gotta wonder. I mean, to give up $20 billion a year, give or take, to integrate someone else's AI products into your phone and not take the money from Google. There's gotta be something else to it. Even Eddie Q's not stupid.

[John C. Dvorak]

Give him a call.

[Adam Curry]

Hey, Eddie.

[John C. Dvorak]

Adam.

[Adam Curry]

I bet she wouldn't take my call.

[John C. Dvorak]

I bet she would.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I don't think I have his number, but I'm sure It's E. Q, apple.com. well, that brings me to a couple technology items of note. First of all, we laughed, and I certainly was unaware of the new definition of raw dogging. We've talked about. This came up. Was it in one of your clips that just came up? The raw dogging.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, Raw dogging. And I still think that this has been. This is a plant to get the bonehead who's done it before on NBC. That guy who's. Or cbs, that character that was on there. He was busted before for saying stuff that was. He's just naive. He doesn't know. And he says he's the one who introduced it. Yeah. Okay. Now all of a sudden it's in the definition. I saw that.

[Adam Curry]

Well, the thing is, of all the people who should know about this New definition of the term raw dogging. It should be you because it is a TikTok trend. This is where it comes from. From. It's called raw dogging. I'm reading this from travel Week. A new trend that's blowing up on social media, particularly among males, requiring people to sit through a long haul flight with zero distractions or forms of entertainment. This means no phones, movies, music, books or even sleep, food or water. If people can just sit there for hours without any stimuli, they get instant bragging rights. Rights, I. E. Raw doggin.

[John C. Dvorak]

What bragging rights are there? What. Who are you bragging to? Well, I was on the plane and I was like putty in that Seinfeld movie or Seinfeld show where he sat there next to Elaine and he didn't move and didn't say anything. Doesn't make any sense.

[Adam Curry]

So here's, here's a TikTok clip that I see. It's like what do we see? Just raw dog, the seven hour flight. No hey headphones, no movie, no water, nothing. Incredible. The power of my mind knows no bounds. Yeah, it's like a fast. It's like a fast of water and, and technology. Well, in general a good idea not.

[John C. Dvorak]

To not drink water for hours on end?

[Adam Curry]

Well, no, but, but to not use technology. I think that's, that's a, that's a good trend. I'm all for it. I like this trend. It's good. It's a good trend. Stinks like you care. Like when's the last time you were on an actual air aircraft?

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, you're not flying around. It's too dangerous. The air traffic control is down. It needs to be modernized.

[Adam Curry]

Yours had propellers.

[John C. Dvorak]

When I was a kid, you had to go out and start the engine with a shotgun.

[Adam Curry]

That's the line I was looking for. Shotgun shell. Start that DC3 engine. Anyway, in the technology sphere, never let a good United nations development report go to a waste. The new UND report is out 2025 and Queen Ursula is all over it.

[C]

It's a real pleasure to speak to you today and to welcome this vital report on artificial intelligence. The UNDP helps millions of people every year. But a lot has changed in the 60 years since the UNDP was created.

[Adam Curry]

Now where do you think she's going with this? What do you think is in this new United nations development plan land report for 2020?

[John C. Dvorak]

Climate change?

[Adam Curry]

No. Well, it was partially. It's part of the kicker. But no, no, no, no.

[C]

The world is facing many new challenges and artificial intelligence is one of the biggest.

[Adam Curry]

This is it, baby. AI coming to Europe. EU is going to be the AI continent.

[C]

This new report.

[Adam Curry]

What?

[John C. Dvorak]

Can I interrupt a clip completely? I know you hate this idea, but I, But I want to interrupt that clip with an AI clip. Okay, you go right back to the clip and be fine. Sure. Because you didn't really get that clip going.

[Adam Curry]

No, no. Because you kept jumping in front of it. Yes, you can. Of course you can.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is Linda McMahon who's.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, she's the secretary of the now defunct education. Yes, Education.

[John C. Dvorak]

She's. You have. This is unbelievable. She is talking about AI in schools, but she doesn't really. She. Well, maybe she's talking about, I don't know, what, what is she doing? Letter or report that I heard this morning. I wish I could remember the source, but that there is a school system that's going to start making sure that first graders or even pre Ks have A1 teaching, you know, every year starting, you know, that far down in the grades. And that's just a. That's a wonderful thing. Kids are sponges if they just absorb, absorb everything. And so wasn't all that long ago that as we're going to have Internet in our schools now. Okay, let's do see a 1. And how, and how can that be helpful? How can it be helpful in one on one instruction? How can it be helpful?

[Adam Curry]

Wait a minute, is she talking about AI? She's saying A1. Is that what I'm hearing? Yeah, A1 steak sauce.

[John C. Dvorak]

In schools they just absorb everything. And so it wasn't all that long ago that as we're going to have Internet in our schools now. Okay, let's do see a 1. And how, and how can that be helpful? How can it be helpful in one on one instruction?

[Adam Curry]

How can it be helpful and absorbing.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, more information for those fast learners? It can be more one on one directed. And those are the kinds of things and innovations that I want to see continue to develop.

[Adam Curry]

All right, all right, you deserve this one.

[John C. Dvorak]

Thank you very much.

[Adam Curry]

A1 in school. So she's reading off a piece of paper. She has apparently never listened to anything in the media at all. At all, ever. This is the series of tubes clip of our day. Remember the Internet?

[John C. Dvorak]

It's a series of tubes. Yeah, the tubes.

[Adam Curry]

Oh man, do we still have. Who was that guy?

[John C. Dvorak]

It was the senator that got killed up in Alaska.

[Adam Curry]

Wasn't it because of, because of the series of tubes?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, because he was in a plane wreck. I think they tried to kill him for some reason. He's the one who built the bridge to nowhere.

[Adam Curry]

Ted Stevens. You're right, right, Ted Stevens, yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Ted Stevens, yeah. Can you believe that? A1. That's what we're calling it from now on.

[Adam Curry]

Hold on.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is allowing all of these entities that.

[Adam Curry]

Support this to provide streaming stuff going on the Internet now. The Internet, you know, let's go back. Internet started with a concept of local.

[John C. Dvorak]

To local connections across the country. Country.

[Adam Curry]

And you could go for Air Alaska, but you only had. You had to go through local connections to get there.

[John C. Dvorak]

The industry wisely provided for streaming for.

[Adam Curry]

In effect, a new kind of long distance. And that's what we've got. We've got a service that's immune to.

[John C. Dvorak]

Distance and it's there for the consumer. But when we take.

[Adam Curry]

And where is it? Sign up and you got a movie.

[John C. Dvorak]

Delivered to your house.

[Adam Curry]

You change your order, it's delivered to you in this delivery charge. Charge is free, right? Why? Because it got tangled up with all these things that are going on the Internet commercially. And here we have this one situation where enormous entities want to use the Internet for their purpose, to save money for doing what they're doing now. They use FedEx, they use the delivery service. The Internet is not something that you just dump something on. It's not a big truck.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's a series of tubes.

[Adam Curry]

And if you don't understand, those tubes can be filled.

[John C. Dvorak]

And if they're filled, when you put.

[Adam Curry]

Your message in, it gets in line.

[John C. Dvorak]

It'S going to be delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts of material.

[Adam Curry]

Wow. He was not wrong though. He was talking about streaming TV and. But it was the series of tubes that we all focus on.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not a truck.

[Adam Curry]

No, it's a series of tubes. Yes. From now on, AI is A one and new people to the show will be. Will think we are crazy. What are these guys?

[John C. Dvorak]

These guys don't know what they're talking about. They think AI is A1.

[Adam Curry]

Well, OK, so before I get to my Ursula AI clip A1 clip. I have to play this. This is the latest TikTok craze. Yes. I'm not playing a TikTok clip. I'm playing.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, I noticed you're stealing my material.

[Adam Curry]

No, no. This is a clip about. This is a clip about TikTok Tick tock and what kids, those crazy wacky kids are doing in school.

[C]

This Tick tock shows a new and concerning trend among students.

[Adam Curry]

It's more than just a trend, you know, it causes a lot of disruption.

[C]

Last Thursday, a student at Newington High School did just that. It became clear that the damage was done intentionally, that it wasn't a malfunctioning Chromebook, but rather a student had intentionally.

[Adam Curry]

Done things to it that caused it.

[C]

To smoke and eventually melt. The school was evacuated as smoke filled the classroom.

[Adam Curry]

The batteries that are, that are essentially catching on fire once they burn, they're producing this toxic smoke.

[C]

And the same thing happened in both Derby and Cromwell high schools on Monday.

[Adam Curry]

The hallway's filling with smoke. We went in and ended up finding a laptop in a classroom that was.

[C]

Pretty much out but on fire.

[Adam Curry]

At one point the back cover, where the battery cover was, was, was melted away and the battery was smoking.

[C]

Investigations are underway across the districts and while no one was injured, firefighters say these incidents could have been much worse.

[Adam Curry]

The small ones like cell phones and.

[C]

Laptops, it can cause an explosion.

[Adam Curry]

It could have potentially burned somebody. Shrapnel could have hit other people if it exploded.

[C]

Newington Superintendent Dr. Maureen Brummett says she plans to hold those responsible accountable.

[Adam Curry]

So the kids now on TikTok, they're learning how to jam some metal into the charging USB port of their school issued Chromebooks. And of course they start to smoke, burn and often and they short them out. Yes, this is the new tick tock trend. It's part of the raw dogging trend.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know it's got to do.

[Adam Curry]

With raw dogging, but you got to get rid of your, rid of your technology, baby. I'm going to blow, blow loaded up.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is a Luddite thing.

[Adam Curry]

I'm digging it.

[John C. Dvorak]

The new Luddites.

[Adam Curry]

I'm digging it, I'm digging it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Neo Luddites.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, I'm digging it. Well, none of this will happen in the European Union because Queen Ursula is all in on a one.

[C]

It's a real pleasure to speak to you today. It's a pleasure and to welcome this vital report on artificial intelligence. The UNDP helps millions of people every year, but only a lot has changed in the 60 years since the UNDP was created. The world is facing many new challenges and artificial intelligence is one of the biggest. As this new report says, the world is pulsing with a powerful new technology.

[Adam Curry]

Pulsing with a powerful new technology.

[C]

AI has moved from fantasy to fact.

[Adam Curry]

From fantasy to fact. She likes the alliteration to.

[C]

Thirds of people around the world expect to use AI within a year. Areas like health, education and work are being transformed. And the revolution has only just begun. So how should we deal with this crucial issue? How can we make sure that countries and people Benefit from the AI revolution.

[Adam Curry]

I think it's going to cost the taxpayers money.

[C]

Now let's look at what Europe is doing at home and in partnerships around the world. Here in Europe, we want to be leading as an AI continent to improve lives, promote our values and help humanity. We're investing. We're building 13 AI factories and five gigafactories.

[Adam Curry]

Whoa, five giga AI factories. I don't know exactly what they're going to do, but it's not just a factory, it's a GigaFactory.

[C]

To unlock 200 billion euros in over overall investment.

[Adam Curry]

200 billion euros of your tax money. Europeans.

[C]

But with artificial intelligence, there are risks as well as rewards. So we have brought in a new set of rules for a European approach to safeguard our citizens and maximize benefits. Because AI needs to be safe. To have the confidence of Europeans.

[Adam Curry]

We will control your AI and we will. We are going to deploy it everywhere and it's going to be good for you. Just listen.

[C]

But our focus must also be broader than Europe because there is a danger that AI will grow. The digital divide.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, they care so much about the.

[C]

Poor countries between wealthy nations and the global South. And that's why Europe is also working with partners, so that everyone can take part in this AI revolution.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, Slaves and data centers.

[C]

Let me give you five examples. Firstly, our global gateway strategy is investing in infrastructure and capacity in partner countries. For example, a satellite AI factory in.

[Adam Curry]

Morocco that is thus what is an AI factory? But I have to ask you, do you have any inkling of idea what an AI factory is?

[John C. Dvorak]

I think it would be a server farm is what I think it is. But her concept is so 18th century that she thinks everything's a fact. Factory. Get to work, you poor hamburger. Factory.

[C]

A satellite AI factory in Morocco that is thus helping tech startups across Africa. Second.

[Adam Curry]

So wait a minute. My money's going to go to Africa. Okay.

[C]

To support these efforts, the European Union is joining the executive steering board of the AI Hub for Sustainable Development.

[Adam Curry]

The AI Hub for Sustainable Development. Wow.

[C]

This is a vital initiative led by Italy, the G7 and the UNDP, with a strong focus on Africa. Thirdly, we have formed a powerful digital alliance with Latin America and Caribbean partners. Fourthly, we're working with Asian partners on global cybersecurity. And finally, we're developing super accurate AI weather forecasts to warn about dangerous tropical storms, for example.

[Adam Curry]

Wait a minute. Super accurate AI weather forecast? I cannot wait for that.

[John C. Dvorak]

What a crock.

[C]

And of course, to help rescue efforts around the world.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, go find that Malaysian Airlines flight.

[C]

So you see, AI can be a gift to humanity.

[Adam Curry]

It's a gift. It's a gift to you. Hey, slaves. Hey, you in the factory. It's a gift.

[C]

This important report shows that the future is in our hands. The choices we make now will determine our tomorrow. With the right choices, we can open new pathways, helping everyone to thrive in a world with artificial intelligence.

[Adam Curry]

Boondoggle. Boondoggle. Money. There's money in Europe, everybody, There's money. If you're a scientist and you want to run away from the evil American America, there's money. If you want to work in a. In a AI gigafactory, I just shudder to think what that really is. These people are nuts. They talk.

[John C. Dvorak]

This woman is delusional. She doesn't know what she's talking about, and she just rambles. She must really think she's something special.

[Adam Curry]

Well, President Trump likes me. He thinks I'm awesome.

[John C. Dvorak]

Trump is already on his way. He's working her already.

[Adam Curry]

She's falling for it. Hey, with that, I want to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you that you the man who put the C in the Chromebooks that explode. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, Mr. John C. DeVora.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Way in the morning to you, Mr. Adam. Korean morning. Ships to see in the water and all the dames and knights out there.

[Adam Curry]

In the morning to the trolls and the troll room.

[John C. Dvorak]

Room.

[Adam Curry]

Hold on. Trolls. I was hanging out with mom. 2041 trolls. Peak trollage for us today. It's Mother's Day. Wow. Wow. What wow?

[John C. Dvorak]

That's wow low.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Wow as a wow. Hello, man. Wow. But people love their moms. But they don't.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, the ones that love their moms don't donate to the show.

[Adam Curry]

No, there's that. There's that.

[John C. Dvorak]

But they love a few mom call outs. Call outs.

[Adam Curry]

Luckily. Luckily. Good. All the moms. You are the glue of the family. Fact. So the trolls are in the troll room at Trollroom IO, which is our 24.7live stream and chat room. You can call the chat room, but I think everyone calls it a troll room because people troll. They're just there to troll all the time. Only 130 real trolls. These are trolls that are listening. We have quite a large listening audience. Audience. Not everyone is trolling, but you can. You can hit that Trollroom IO or use the modern podcast app. I can't say it often enough. One of these days you're going to be like, I'm disappointed in My podcast app. If only I had listened to Adam. What was that thing called again, by the way? It is not podcast app.com that'll take you to a piece of junk. It is podcast apps plural.com, where you can see all of the modern podcasts too.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's two P's and it shows podcast apps.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Podcast apps apps dot com. Yes. Or you can go to podcast index and dot org and click on the apps tab. It's all the same place. And so these give you all kinds of benefits besides not spying on you, not giving you ads. I'm sure some apps out there do that or try to give you. You ads. And you can always upgrade, you know, to the concierge package for extra features. They give you chapters with chapter images, they give you alerts. When we go live, they have live streams. You can't get that from Spotify or from, from Apple podcast apps. So grab one of those. It's compatible with all of your, all of your podcasts. You can even import your current subscriptions. The trolls are there contributing to the show. We have a value for value model. Clearly we, we are. We've taken a route that we can never get out of. We're not getting any checks from, from big Pharma, not getting any checks from China. We get no checks. We just. We get checks from people who want to support us because they value what we do. And that's checks from coffee guys. Yeah, we get checks. Where is my new coffee? I need some new coffee. We get checks from coffee guys. That's pretty much it.

[John C. Dvorak]

In the mail.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that's pretty much it. But we appreciate everyone who supports us. Value for value means time, talent or treasure. And we do have a, a plethora of artists and AI, A1 prompt jockeys who like to. I'm going to keep, I'm going to try to keep it in there. This should. She should be called out for that, by the way.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, she was with that clip, but. Well, she should be called out by the. Somebody should bring it up at the press conference.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. What do you know, lady? What do you know? Go back to wrestling. One of the ways people contribute is through providing us art. We love to select a piece of art right after the show. This is. These are people who are listening on the fly. Just listening live and on the fly are making art. They're. And it's. Yes, it's a tool if you use AI, but you still have to have a concept and it has to be a no agenda concept. It has to have the humor of gitmonation. Otherwise, AI is just not going to take you anywhere. And so we have a combination of traditional artists using Photoshop and clip art and yes, some art, some AI stuff. But we want to thank the artists who brought us the artwork for episode 1762 titled Stick Fight. By the way, I think there was an errant. There's a mistake about the stick fight that we discussed. It is in fact not India and Pakistan who fight with sticks at the border. It is India and Chinese who of course pretty much own that region of Pakistan, if I understand it correctly.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I know they fight on the border too. I don't know if this is if it's to or, or, or.

[Adam Curry]

And I couldn't find any evidence of Indians.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, well, maybe it's just the Indians and the Chinese fighting with.

[Adam Curry]

But in London, there's a lot of videos in London with Pakistanis and Indians yelling at each other. And they don't really get into fisticuffs, but they just yell at each other and it's F you. F you. Get out of here, man. You Pocky, you Indian. London. They're fighting each other there. The whole thing, it's spreading. It's contagion.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, they were invited there to fight, obviously. Why else would they be there?

[Adam Curry]

That's right. So we want to thank Sir Suge, aka Faux Diddly, for the artwork for 1762. A nice US born pope with a foam finger. Number one. A lot of people like this art. They got good stuff.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, nobody sent us any. Any. Hey, that's sacrilegious. Or any complaints? No, I got more Catholic listeners.

[Adam Curry]

No, I got. No, no, the Catholics, they like it. They're all. The Catholics. I know, they're like, jury's still out, man. Jury's still out. But I think there's also a lot of propaganda against this Pope. Just in. Just right off the bat and like, oh, he's, he's, he's LGBT friendly. He's. He's, he's woke. He's. This sees that there's a lot of anti propaganda. You know, it's propaganda on both sides. We don't know. We don't know what this Pope is going to do. We don't know yet, but we'll see. I hear a lot of. Well, he's a registered Republican. He's got to be good. Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

How can. He was living in Chile in the.

[Adam Curry]

Elections that he voted in. When he was in the United States, he voted Republican. God. I mean, this is all just, it's out There, you know, I'm just telling you what people are talking about.

[John C. Dvorak]

Question this.

[Adam Curry]

As I said, it's propaganda. What I love the most. I heard this one the other day, that a lot of the M5M talked about this particular pope, Leo XIV as the dark horse candidates. Did you hear this anywhere?

[John C. Dvorak]

No.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, so he was the. Well, of course I did, because I'm looking everywhere like, how did I miss this guy? He was. He was the dark horse candidate. And then of course, that picks up up as, aha. White horse President Trump, red horse China, black horse Pope. We're just waiting for the pale horse and then. And then the Armageddon.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, this is classic. That has to be a Fredericksburg thing.

[Adam Curry]

You got it, baby. Of course it is. I'm telling you, this is the best move I've ever made in my life. I'm never leaving. I am never leaving Fredericksburg.

[John C. Dvorak]

Gold mine of crazy people.

[Adam Curry]

But the guess, the best part is that we talk about this and we laugh about it and we have a good time and I tell them I'm going to talk about on the show. Like, yeah, you should do that. That's good. Like you said, there's got to get this information out there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Get that information. Yeah. Talk about. You can ridicule us if you want. We don't care as long as it gets out.

[Adam Curry]

No, hey, listen, we're good hosts. We have people over. We cook. We have a good time with them. They're all our friends. We love them. We love our friends. So looking at the artwork that we had, that usual.

[John C. Dvorak]

You loved your friends in Austin, too, until you rousted a couple of them.

[Adam Curry]

Well, but they were really not good, let's be honest. I mean, they just got. They got all spun up. They got really spun up, but over the wrong things. Like Trump is Hitler. Yeah, we don't have that here. We got Biden is Hitler, Obama was the Antichrist. That be could kind of stuff doesn't fit with the show. Anyway, we're looking at the [e-mail] Another fine piece of value for value from Sir Paul, who, who put that together for us. Been running up and running for over a decade in multiple versions because it was VE Day. We did stay on Darren o' Neill's VE Day piece of art. We discussed it for that long.

[John C. Dvorak]

Because you've, you've, you nixed it. Fast forward then. I don't have a line.

[Adam Curry]

No, you don't have a lot. I, I said the. I, I like the idea of supporting VE Day. But I didn't think this was a great art as an old dude looking up in the cloud.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, you didn't. I wasn't pushing back too hard. I liked the piece.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Because it was for the day. But then again, it was okay.

[Adam Curry]

It was.

[John C. Dvorak]

The piece was a little bit funky.

[Adam Curry]

The piece that you said right off the bat was, I love this one. No agenda. Please send free stuff. Adam Curry and John Cena Vorhak. That was the one you liked.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mentioned it was funny. I didn't gonna pick it.

[Adam Curry]

We had a couple of. What was that?

[John C. Dvorak]

The one I liked a lot, just for its composition and I just liked that. That was the prettiest piece. Was again, Darren, who gets a hair up his ass every so often and just produces a lot of good stuff. A lot of it.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

New and improved. No Agenda from Alcatraz Prison. I think that piece was gorgeous.

[Adam Curry]

That was a very nice piece. Why didn't we choose it?

[John C. Dvorak]

You didn't like it? I think the Pope with the foam finger was just too.

[Adam Curry]

It was too good.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, no, I know what you said. We're not going to pick another Darren o' Neal. And yeah, there you go. Yes works. Or whoever.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that's what I said exactly. Those guys, they got to stop. They got to stop.

[John C. Dvorak]

You were. This is classic. This is what you do, by the way, when you're judging.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

For the. For the Pulitzer and everything. No, no, no. That guy.

[Adam Curry]

No, you can't have. Have another award. No, you can't.

[John C. Dvorak]

That guy's already got too much.

[Adam Curry]

Forget too much. No, we're not going to do it. Exactly.

[John C. Dvorak]

And that's what happens in the back room. And it happens constantly. People can't take these awards too seriously. And that goes for the Oscars, too.

[Adam Curry]

And that goes for the no agenda art picking process. It's exactly the same.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's just the way. It's human nature.

[Adam Curry]

It's just what it is. Thank you, sir. Shug, AKA Faux Diddly. We appreciate it. Appreciate the work of all the artists who support us with their time and their talent. And we always love the people who support us with treasure. And we will thank every single person who supports us with $50 or above for every single episode. At this moment, we'd like to thank what we credit as our executive and associate executive producers because we realize, just like Hollywood, it's really the people who fund the show who get those titles, those credits. And these are equal to Hollywood credits. Wherever Hollywood credits are recognized, these work as well, including IMDb you can put it in any resume you to listen LinkedIn profile and it looks kind of cool and people will question you about it. And if they do, send them to IMDb.com you see that it's for real. And there's over a thousand other executive and associate executive producers. So here's how it works. $200 or above, you get the associate executive producer credit and we'll read your note. $300 and above you get an executive producer credit. Who doesn't want that? And we will read your note as well. And we kick it off with Sir Kevin dills from Huntersville, North Carolina with five 1, 2 and he says in the morning this is my annual birthday donation. Yes, after a while you kind of come to recognize these things. And he will be turning 39 on May 12th. Please add me to the birthday list. Of course. No jingles, just karma. Thank you for your courage, says Sir Kevin Dills. He is the Duke of North Carolina and we thank you for your contribution.

[C]

Duke, you've got karma.

[Adam Curry]

We have.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is what is that? Dixie.

[Adam Curry]

Dixie and Craig is what I have. Yeah, Dixie and Dixie.

[John C. Dvorak]

Craig, he's in Alberta, Canada. He sent a check in for the gray 500 bucks but we don't have a note or anything from him. And I don't know what this is. Oh, this is five. And by the way, this is 500 Canadian. So it's.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, so.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well it's 500 Canadian.

[Adam Curry]

Hey, we still honor the Canadian dollary.

[John C. Dvorak]

Dues and so executive producer but he didn't say anything about it and so we're going to give him a double up. Karma.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, we roll it up for all you've got.

[C]

Karma.

[Adam Curry]

Moving on to Victoria Pratovsky in Newark, New Jersey. Actually, she says from West Orange. Hello West Orange. I used to live near West Orange. Montclair.333.33. One of our favorite numbers itm Adam and John says Victoria, this is victory day donation may 9th. God bless you both and four more years. Please call out my husband James as a douchebag.

[John C. Dvorak]

Douchebag.

[Adam Curry]

I hit him in the mouth on our second date and a few episodes later he scolded me, scolded me for skipping donation segments. I knew he was a keeper right then and there. Baby making karma, please. And I love my tr.

[John C. Dvorak]

First.

[C]

You'Ve got karma.

[Adam Curry]

And remember with every baby making karma, if you're successful and you will be, you have to name the kid after us.

[John C. Dvorak]

Austin Brad shows up. He's in Centennial, Colorado 333.33. And he says thanks John Nana, for all you do. Happy Monday. Mother's Day, Jess, my smoking hot wife. If any listeners need a real estate agent who is not a douchebag, email [e-mail] you know, you could have made a shorter email address in Austin Michael.

[Adam Curry]

Bradshaw, but okay, yeah, it's pretty long.

[John C. Dvorak]

Homesmart Realty Colorado. That's Austin Michael Bradshaw Gmail. I will have help you buy and sell real estate here in Colorado.

[Adam Curry]

Thanks and we thank you. We thank you. Philip Worth, Lebanon, PA 333.33 and says dedicated to my fiercely intelligent and kind mother, Joy Worth. Is now. Is that a switcheroo?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, it's just dedication.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

Call it to the mom.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Beautiful. You got it taken care of.

[John C. Dvorak]

Jim Cushman in Durango, Iowa. Wow. 23375 Associate Executive Producer row of ducks plus fees. James Evan. What is that Palato donation? What's the James Evan Palato?

[Adam Curry]

I have no idea who James Evan Palato is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, I listen to the donation segments. Check out. What is this? Media More. What is Media Monarchy Media Monarchy Dog Old school radio style broadcast with a.

[Adam Curry]

Great community Trans radio. Okay. That's the James Evan Pilato is is on that Media Monarchy thing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Ah, okay.

[Adam Curry]

Got it.

[John C. Dvorak]

John, you're a lovable curmudgeon. Might be lovable, but I don't like being a curmudgeon. Loving kisses.

[Adam Curry]

Douglas Schneider, Austin, Texas. Hello, Austin. Row of ducks 222.22. This donation since the third Mother's Day installment towards my mother's daming. Only one more to go and she's sitting at the round table. Well, that'll be a celebration. Mom, you've always been there for me through life's up and downs. You truly are the best mother in the universe. Happy Mother's Day from your devoted son Doug. Two times Karma. Please. A lot to ask.

[C]

You've got karma. You've got karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

Baron, Sir Casey 9 yjm and he's in Elgin, Illinois. 212 72. And he wants jobs. Karma Baron, Sir K C 9 y. JM Green Knight of Hams.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, and I will tell you it's Elgin. Pretty sure it's Elgin.

[John C. Dvorak]

I thought it was Elgin.

[Adam Curry]

Nah, I think it's Elgin. But who knows? What do we know? We're podcasters.

[John C. Dvorak]

Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

[C]

Karma.

[Adam Curry]

And we have a switcheroo coming in from Daniel lipinski, Cold Spring, Minnesota. 210 60. He says Mother's Day switcheroo for my smoking hot wife, Amy Lynn. She's not a stripper. Happy Mother's Day. That is. Amy Lynn is kind of totally a porn name. Happy Mother's Day. We love you. And we love that you still buy eggs for us. Double up Karma, please. We got that. For Amy Lynn, you've got.

[C]

Karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sir. Farmry Todd in Wellsboro, Pennsylvania. 210 60. And he says, John, I'm going to send you the penny Penn state wrestling national championship memorabilia. That's great. The biggest dynasty in sports in recent history was also the University of California rugby team. We had 10 All Americans in 2025, second time in history, and was the 12th NCAA team title in 15 years. So they just beat everybody.

[Adam Curry]

Wow.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Well, good for you guys. Good. That's what happens when you get the right coach and you get the right recruiting.

[Adam Curry]

Sir Farmery Todd. And there he is, 205.11. Eli the coffee guy from Bensonville, Illinois. And he says, I would like to dedicate this donation to my wife Jen. She is a rock star of a mother. Our family is lucky to have such a great mom. A happy Mother's Day to all the moms out there. It's one of the most challenging and rewarding jobs anyone can ever have. Remember, if you didn't get mom anything, it's not too late. Visit gigawatt coffeeroses.com and use code ITM20 for 20 off your order. Send some coffee right to her door. I guarantee she'll be pleasantly surprised. Stay caffeinated, says Eli the coffee guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

And finally, well, not finally, but next to last is Linda Lupatkin, our buddy in Lakewood, Colorado. 200 bucks. Always wants jobs. Karma. And she wants to say, for a competitive edge with a resume that gets results, go to Image makers, Inc. I was doing okay for years on end. Image makers, Inc. For all your executive resume and job search needs. That's Imagemakers Inc. With a K.com and work with Linda Lou, Duchess of jobs and writer of resume.

[Adam Curry]

Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let's vote for jobs.

[C]

You've got karma.

[Adam Curry]

If you keep screwing up those those reads, we're going to lose the client, man.

[John C. Dvorak]

Give her a make good. We give her. She gets make goods from other listeners.

[Adam Curry]

She does. She does. It's beautiful. Finally on the list. $200. I guess that's a check that came in. No note. E. Maynard throne from Tracy, California. $200. I have nothing. I don't think we have anything. So a double up. Karma for you. E. Main.

[C]

You've got Karma.

[Adam Curry]

And that concludes our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1763 of the Best Podcasts in the Universe. We will be thanking the rest of our supporters $50 and above in our second segment. And of course, you can always come up with any number, anything you want to do. We love the numerology. We love all the different things you come up with for us to read on the show during the donation segment for executive and associate executive producers. And as [e-mail] you can set up a recurring donation, any amount, any frequency. We'll take it all. Noagendadonations.com thank you for the support.

[John C. Dvorak]

Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Order. Order.

[Adam Curry]

Shut up, slave.

[John C. Dvorak]

Shut up. Sleep.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sound like an alarm went off?

[Adam Curry]

No.

[John C. Dvorak]

I have a couple of clips from more complaining from npr.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, you really, really on the NPR tip today, aren't you?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, today's NPR day, NPR day. This is the, I guess AmeriCorps, they're going to cut the funds for AmeriCorps.

[Adam Curry]

What is AmeriCorps? AmeriCorps.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I didn't even think about AmeriCorps. You know, they still have the Peace Corps, I guess America kind of like the Peace Corps, but it's not, it was a lot of money. And, you know, I've, you know, I've concluded some time back that I don't know how this is going to turn out for Trump. But all these programs, all these things except for the USAID and the stuff that's going overseas, but most of the stuff that's not going overseas, in fact, a lot of it that's going overseas is not going overseas either. It's just jobs programs.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

We may have been in a depression since 1970, and everybody's working on the dole in some way, shape or form. And people who actually do something that pay taxes, they're picking up the slack. For everybody else, I'm not sure.

[Adam Curry]

But it's just AmeriCorps. I'm looking at it right now. They focus on six key areas. Disaster services, economic opportunities, opportunity education, environmental stewardship, healthy futures, and veteran and military families.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. If this doesn't sound like a crock of crap, just from what you read, nothing does.

[Adam Curry]

Kinda.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah. Crock of crap. Okay. Well, let's go with clip one. In its push to shrink government, the Trump administration has gutted AmeriCorps. That is the federal agency created three decades ago as a way for young Americans and seniors to serve their country. Now, most of the agency staff has been fired and more than 30,000 people have been ordered to stop their service work immediately.

[Adam Curry]

Wow. Are they, where are they? Are they overseas?

[John C. Dvorak]

30,000 people. And by the way, three decades ago, that means this was founded, this thing began in 1995 within recent memory of most of our listeners.

[Adam Curry]

Wow.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's not like something that's been around forever. It's this bold crap. And 30,000 people, that's a lot. 30,000. But again, I'm thinking this is a jobs program for them. It's not to benefit anybody else. Onward. NPR's Jennifer Ludden reports.

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Until last month, 25 year old Theo Faucher was an AmeriCorps team leader. He and 10 others got a small stipend for building affordable homes in Virginia, removing hurricane debris in Florida, and repairing national park trails in West Virginia. That's where they were when Foshe got shocking news. Pull your team off the work site, pack up your camp, hit the road tonight if possible. The Trump administration had ended nearly $400 million in grants, yanking funding from more than a thousand organizations, saying it no longer fit the agency's priorities. People were upset. Foshe says he calls AmeriCorps a patriotic program that's good for the country and good for the young adults.

[John C. Dvorak]

He led 18, 19 year olds who.

[C]

Had never left home who weren't really sure what they wanted to do with.

[John C. Dvorak]

Their lives or what was the right call for them.

[C]

Just travel the country with people they'd never met before.

[Adam Curry]

It's a personal growth and agency and.

[John C. Dvorak]

Confidence I saw in these members was massive.

[C]

All of a sudden, to have that opportunity ripped away from them is just unconscionable, really. Kyra Esgate heads America's Service Commissions, a nonprofit that supports national service programming. She admits there have been issues. AmeriCorps failed eight consecutive audits. A White House spokeswoman cited the same thing and pointed to $45 million in improper payments last year. Escade says the agency found that in its own review. And AmeriCorps is upgrading a clunky IT system to better track money.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Okay, so they can't be the eight failed audits for an agency. Give me a break.

[Adam Curry]

We can't track the money.

[John C. Dvorak]

And then they always go, computers don't work. You know, if you put the computers from 1995, which is when this thing began, would work to do tracking the money. I mean, it's not like we had Excel.

[Adam Curry]

We had Excel back then.

[John C. Dvorak]

We had Lotus 1, 2, 3. We had, you could do it on an Apple Too. From the, from the late 70s. I mean, I had Apple. Bull crap.

[Adam Curry]

I had Lotus J Jazz. Do you remember that product?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I know. Lotus Jazz.

[Adam Curry]

Lotus Jazz never really worked. Would never. They had all the software keys and stuff. Never really worked. Lotus Jazz. Yeah. Well, this is scam. That means not a scam. It's just something that's grown into a, a money sink, a money hole. It's a jobs program. Yes, you're correct. It's a jobs program.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. It's just giving money away. You might as well have like the works project, administration. Let's set that back up again and we can just paint murals.

[Adam Curry]

It would probably be more beneficial to the American people.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it would at least be prettier.

[Adam Curry]

I have Manga news since we're in the second half here. Manga, Manga, Manga news. Make Africa. Make Africa news. Great. Again, this is interesting because it's white people in manga.

[C]

The first group of white Afrikaans speaking South Africans is reportedly due to arrive in the United States early next week. They claim to be persecuted in their home country and have been granted refugee status by President Donald Trump. The US leader in February signed an executive order halting all aid to South Africa, accusing the government of doing terrible things to Afrikaners. He described them as the victims of unjust racial discrimination, saying their land was being taken away from them. Trump's views appear to stem from a recent law that allows land export appropriation without compensation in extremely rare cases. South African officials say the policy is part of efforts to address land ownership disparities that are one of the starkest legacies of apartheid and that to date, no land has been seized. Many prominent Afrikaners and other South Africans have shouted down Trump's statements, saying they patently false.

[Adam Curry]

This will be interesting who shows up and what their story is. There's been so much mis and disinformation about, about this, of the Afrikaners.

[John C. Dvorak]

What's the misinformation?

[Adam Curry]

Well, the only news we're getting is it's not true. It's not true. It's not true. It's just not. There's no white people being killed here. That's not true. And these people, they're showing up with signs. They're like, thank you. We love you, President Trump. Thank you for saving us.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah. They're killing white people there. That's what they're doing.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well, they, they, there's a lot of people there in South Africa who disagree with that statement.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, they're not white.

[Adam Curry]

No, no. Oh, I, I, I'm sorry. I missed these. I have two Pope Leo XIV clips.

[John C. Dvorak]

I have one Pope Leo XIV clip.

[Adam Curry]

Why don't you go first with your Pope Leo clip?

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. You can see it on there.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. He makes a comment.

[C]

Pope Leo has made an unannounced visit to the Roman basilica of Santa Maria.

[Adam Curry]

Maggiore, where his predecessor is buried.

[John C. Dvorak]

Walking slowly to shouts of Long live.

[C]

The Pope, Leo laid a white flower.

[Adam Curry]

On Francis tomb and knelt in prayer for a few moments earlier, he confirmed.

[C]

To cardinals that he'd chosen his pontifical.

[Adam Curry]

Name in homage to Leo XIII, a.

[C]

19Th century pope who defended workers rights during the industrial revolution.

[John C. Dvorak]

He said there was a place for.

[Adam Curry]

The modern church to meet similar challenges in our own day. The Church offers to everyone the treasury of her social teaching in response to.

[C]

Another industrial revolution and to developments in.

[Adam Curry]

The field of artificial intelligence that pose new challenges for the defense of human dignity, justice and labor. Hey, that's the second time I hear a Windows alert sound in one of your clips. Where's that coming from?

[John C. Dvorak]

I had something running in the background. I was making in a rack it.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, well, I got the Pope Leo the 14th. Chicago welcome.

[John C. Dvorak]

With Leo's ascent to the papacy, the.

[C]

City of Chicago is celebrating one of its own.

[Adam Curry]

Chicago, famously a sports crazed town. So the new Pope is getting the full Windy City treatment. Online. One of the most popular videos circulating is the Pope coming out to the Chicago Bulls entrance music. Meantime, a host of Chicago themed T shirts about Pope Leo have flooded Etsy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Shops in the last 24 hours.

[Adam Curry]

But about the big question asked by every Chicago native, Cubs or White Sox. The Pope's brother, John Prevost confirmed to local media. Leo the 14th. Cheers for the South Siders. He is a White Sox fan. Ah, there you go. Oh, as long as he's a White Sox fan. Oh, that's good.

[John C. Dvorak]

However, actually, that's not good.

[Adam Curry]

No, of course it's not.

[John C. Dvorak]

You want to be a Cubs fan?

[Adam Curry]

Of course it's not good. But there's more that Pope Leo said.

[C]

Chicago born Cardinal Robert Prevost saying he chose his papal name in part to honor Pope Leo xiii, a proponent opponent of fighting for social issues and workers rights. He also says he plans to follow Pope Francis lead on his church reforms and commitment to social justice. In the meeting, Pope Leo asking other senior church leaders to uphold their commitment to the Second Vatican Council responsible for sweeping church reforms in the 1960s. He also identifies artificial intelligence as a top challenge for working people, human dignity and justice. Sister Natalie Beckar, a pioneering French nun and the Pope's neighbor Reacting Saturday, I think you can't just look at him as an American. It's true. He was born in Chicago and I remember once we talked about Chicago because he studied in the same place I spent one semester. Despite the Pope's strong ties to Chicago, Beckar says his rich background makes him a universal Pope. He's also making the papacy his own. Appearing in his first outing since the election, traveling to a sanctuary in Rome, significant to his namesake. You could feel that, yes, his roots are from Chicago, but then he spends so many time as a missionary in Peru and he has the Peruvian citizenship and as superior general, 12 years here in Rome. A mass will get underway here Shortly, just about 5:15 at Holy Name Cathedral. Now, as you all know, because of the Pope's strong Chicago ties and upbringing in Dalton, Illinois, it's caused a lot of excitement for people here in Chicagoland over the last few days, especially Sox fans after they learned from the Pope's brother that he was indeed a Sox fan growing up and has been a lifelong Sox fan.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, Chicago. Chicago.

[John C. Dvorak]

She doesn't know what she's talking about. Oh, no, you don't call them the socks. No, they're the white socks because there's the red socks. You don't say socks fan, but you say boy socks. You could say bo socks. That would make more sense than saying socks. So I don't know that anybody. I lived in Chicago when I was a kid. I don't know anybody that would call the white socks the socks necessarily. Especially in a report like this.

[Adam Curry]

Well, let me see where she is.

[John C. Dvorak]

I just. I think it's just a mistake. I could be wrong. Somebody could correct me. Some Chicagoan. Well, she's Chicagoan. That's working there now.

[Adam Curry]

That was.

[John C. Dvorak]

They can send me a note and I'll pay attention to it.

[Adam Curry]

Chicago. That was a WGN report. So it was a Chicago local report, huh? Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I could be wrong, okay. I probably made another mistake.

[Adam Curry]

Some space junk came down. Everyone's.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh yeah, the space junk. I had a clip from the last show.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I have a clip from this show.

[C]

A Soviet era spacecraft has plunged to Earth more than half a century after its failed launch to Venus. Russia's space agency believes the Kosmos 482 Lander made an uncontrolled re entry over the Indian Ocean. But European and U.S. agencies say they're still unsure of its exact location. The shuttle, weighing half a ton, malfunctioned during its failed launch to Venus in 1972. It never made it out of Earth's orbit instead circling the planet. Planet in an irregular pattern for decades.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I was watching the. The live stream and they just don't even know where it crashed down.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's a piece of junk up there floating around. It's got no radio. It's got no. Not signaling anything.

[Adam Curry]

It looks like a big curling thing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Nobody knows what to do with it. It was a lander or something. It's just floating around for. Since 1972.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah, we're still just doing that kind of stuff. Go to the moon again already. Put some people down. I'm ready for it. I'm ready to become a believer. I'm ready.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I'm ready to play some clips from the Pakistan, India situation.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Can I kick you off with a little overview? An overnight overview? It's very short. It'll bring us up to speed. Oh, it's actually not that cheap. It's. It's not short, but it'll bring us up to speed.

[C]

Mere hours after a ceasefire was announced between India and Pakistan, its fragility was revealed. Explosions lit up the sky above Indian Administered Kashmir in what authorities claimed was a violation by Pakistan of their bilateral agreement.

[Adam Curry]

The armed forces are giving an adequate and appropriate response to these violations and we take very, very serious notice of these violations. We call upon Pakistan to take appropriate, appropriate steps to address these violations and.

[C]

Deal with the situation with seriousness and responsibility. Pakistan said it remained committed to the truce. We have acted as a responsible state.

[Adam Curry]

For the world and regional peace and.

[C]

Stability and for the lives of millions of people in the region who gave a positive response to the ceasefire suggestion. The violations tempered the enthusiasm of those on both sides of the border who earlier had taken to the streets to celebrate the news. In Mumbai, students had even painted artwork of Prime Minister Narendra Modi alongside the US President after Donald Trump first announced Saturday that a complete and immediate ceasefire would come into effect following a night of U. S. Led negotiations. Negotiations. Pakistan's foreign minister had confirmed the deal, saying three dozen countries were involved in the mediations, including Saudi Arabia and Turkey. He celebrated on social media, adding that Pakistan has always strived for peace and security in the region without compromising on its sovereignty and territorial integrity. Minutes later, India confirmed that both militaries had agreed to halt fighting. Sustained. The ceasefire would bring an end to the biggest military conflict between the two nuclear armed states in decades.

[Adam Curry]

There you go. That's the update we have on the overnight. Seems like things are doing pretty poorly there, I guess. What do you have?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I got a bunch of clips, but I'm only the only two at work after that are the the India, Pakistan Bogus Ceasefire clip. NPR is where India and Pakistan appeared locked into widening conflict. President Trump announced that the two countries had agree to a ceasefire. And with that, it appeared that the worst conflict in more than 50 years between these nuclear powers had come to a halt.

[Adam Curry]

Has it, though?

[John C. Dvorak]

Late Saturday, both sides have been accusing each other of violations of the agreement. And Pirazda Hadid has been covering this conflict with all of its whiplash. She covers South Asia and joins us from Mumbai.

[C]

Hi, Scott.

[John C. Dvorak]

So there's a ceasefire for now between Pakistan and India.

[C]

Well, just hours after it was announced by President Trump, it seems a ceasefire is being violated in Kashmir. That's the Himalayan territory that's divided between India and Pakistan and claimed by both residents. Tell NPR there that they've been hearing the sounds of blasts over two major cities, Jammu and Srinagar. NPR producer Bilal Koche is in Srinagar and he told us at first that people thought these were fireworks to celebrate the ceasefire. But pretty quickly, people began rushing home to shelter in place. He sent us videos of the city entirely blacked out. Plumes of smoke were streaming down and people could hear sounds like these. And then the chief minister of Indian Health Kashmir, who's in Trin, posted on X, what the hell just happened to the ceasefire?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, so nothing's changed.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

So onward second half. Sorry. Back up and talk about what the American role was in brokering this agreement.

[C]

Yeah. For days, analysts were saying that the Americans were not being serious. Secretary of State Marco Rubio is just making phone calls. He hasn't come, but experts tell me as the situation escalated, America did intervene directly as well as through Arabic allies to convince both parties.

[John C. Dvorak]

But again, let's get back to where we started this conversation. It seems like this ceasefire is looking incredibly rocky right now.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. And it's not clear whether this is a small violation or a great unraveling.

[John C. Dvorak]

Catch us up to speed on how these two countries got to this dangerous moment right now.

[C]

Yeah. These renewed tensions, they really flared in late April when gunmen opened fire on tourists and Indian help Kashmir and killed 26 people. India said the group that claimed responsibility was a proxy for Pakistan's army, something Pakistan denies. Overnight Wednesday, India began military strikes and the two countries have been exchanging fire every night since. On Saturday. This morning, India had actually struck some Pakistani air bases, including one near the capital, Islamabad, and that prompted Pakistan to announce an intensified military operation. The fighting was ongoing until about 3pm India time and then the ceasefire was announced a little bit later. And Scott, just to give you a sense of this, more than 70 people have been killed on both sides, most of them in Kashmir.

[Adam Curry]

I gotta say once. Okay, twice. I get it. But four Windows alerts being Eclipse is a bit much.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh no. Yeah, I feel so sorry about it.

[Adam Curry]

Well, maybe you should just Upgrade to Windows 11 already. It's clearly telling you to do that.

[John C. Dvorak]

That is Windows 11. That's the problem.

[Adam Curry]

What is it telling you to do? What is the problem?

[John C. Dvorak]

There was something disconnecting constantly.

[Adam Curry]

Well, just so you know, when you're recording clips, it picks it up.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I know I would normally not, I would go back and re record but generally speaking, when I record a long series of clips like a show, like a complete NPR show, I just set it up, let it record, I come back later and then do the listen to the show. Otherwise I'd have to listen to it twice.

[Adam Curry]

No, no one deserves that punishment. By the way, have you heard anything about the President going to Saudi Arabia this week? He's going to Saudi Arabia and Qatar and I guess he's kind of given a cold shoulder to Netanyahu. He's done some kind of deal with the Houthis. I haven't been able to pick up anything on this.

[John C. Dvorak]

I've kind of heard the same, same thing, but I without any detail.

[Adam Curry]

I haven't seen any real reports, just nothing of any substance.

[John C. Dvorak]

Why would you expect reporting?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I guess you're right. No, instead we get riveting news like this.

[C]

She threatened legal action against Google back in February over its labeling of the Gulf of Mexico as the Gulf of America on Google Maps for US Users. President Claudia Shane Bomb has now announced that the Mexico is following through on that warning. Google is already being sued. There has already been a first resolution and it is being awaited. Shane Baum insists that Donald Trump's executive order in January to rename the Gulf applies only to the US section of the continental shelf. What we are saying is that Google should put the Gulf of America where it is, the Gulf of America, which is the part that corresponds to the territory of the United States and then puts the Gulf of Mexico to the territorial part that corresponds to Mexico and Cuba. Google has previously argued that it made the change in line with a practice of following name changes when altered by official government sources. Shane Bomb's announcement comes after the Republican led House of Representatives voted earlier this week to formalize the name change for federal agencies.

[Adam Curry]

On this vote, yeas are too 211 the nays are 206. The bill is passed without objection, the.

[C]

Measure is unlikely to be given the green light by the Senate. Trump has contended that his order was justified as the.

[Adam Curry]

Why is that? Why is that? Why does she say this? Why is it unlikely to be given the green light by the Senate? Is the Senate against this?

[John C. Dvorak]

They hate America.

[C]

Asked without objection, the measure is unlikely to be given the green light by the Senate. Trump has contended that his order was justified as the US Quote, do most of the work there and it's ours. Critics argue the move is in line with his expansionist aims, which include threatening to seize control of Greenland. The water has been referred to as the Gulf of Mexico for more than four centuries and is internationally recognized as such.

[Adam Curry]

I love that she's so mad at Trump. She's going to sue Google. That's pretty funny.

[John C. Dvorak]

Google.

[Adam Curry]

I'm gonna sue Google over it. I wonder. I wonder what? That'll be an interesting lawsuit. And what court is that? Is that the International Criminal Court?

[John C. Dvorak]

The International Court of Mapping.

[Adam Curry]

Iran enters a fourth round of nuclear.

[C]

Negotiations with the Trump administration, saying its.

[Adam Curry]

Right to enrich uranium is non negotiable.

[C]

It rules out a zero enrichment demand made by some US officials.

[Adam Curry]

US President Donald Trump special envoy Steve Witkoff said just that on Friday, speaking to Breitbart News.

[C]

He said that an enrichment program can.

[Adam Curry]

Never exist in the state of Iran ever again. That's our red line. No enrichment.

[C]

The Tehran Times headlines that Wyckoff's comment dims the prospects for a nuclear agreement. The article cites a source saying Iran has been lured into talks so Washington.

[Adam Curry]

Washington could subsequently provide a justification for.

[C]

Escalating pressure and potential aggression.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is really crunch time, I would.

[Adam Curry]

Tell you, for Iran. The US president withdrew Washington from a 2015 deal between Tehran and world powers meant to curb its nuclear activity.

[C]

He has threatened to bomb Iran if no new deal is reached.

[Adam Curry]

Iran insists its nuclear ambitions are purely for civilian purposes and we want it.

[John C. Dvorak]

To be a great country. Let it.

[C]

Ahead of Trump's visit to the region.

[Adam Curry]

Next week, AP is reporting that his.

[C]

Trip to Saudi Arabia raises the prospect.

[Adam Curry]

Of nuclear cooperation with the kingdom. That's what I don't understand. That's the only details I had. His trip to Saudi Arabia signals a nuclear. What did they call it? Nuclear. AP is reporting that his trip to.

[C]

Saudi Arabia raises the prospect of nuclear.

[Adam Curry]

Cooperation with the kingdom. Wait, with. With Saudi Arabia? Nuclear?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I guess they're going to give Saudi Arabia the bomb in case Iran gets it.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, not nuclear Power, but nuclear nuke. Oh, well, the president did say.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know. I mean, I'm just guessing.

[Adam Curry]

Well, he did say and I'm sure it wasn't the so called UK trade deal, which as far as I'm concerned. Is there even a trade deal? Have we seen any, anything? It's a top secret. But he said, oh, it's a big thing coming. This, it's the biggest news ever. This is the biggest, it's.

[John C. Dvorak]

I thought the UK thing was the biggest news.

[Adam Curry]

I don't think that's what it was. Was that big news? We were all falling over each other. Oh, wow. That. What a big deal. There's got to be something bigger than that. I think there's something big. Big, big.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, then it will be tomorrow. Yes, because it said it was going to be Friday. Now the UK deal was on Thursday, but the big deal is supposed to be Friday or Monday.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

And everyone assumed that the big deal was the UK deal on Thursday, that he jumped the gun on Friday and Monday because he had other things to do.

[Adam Curry]

I'm skeptical.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's what I'm just, you know, just.

[Adam Curry]

I'm skeptical.

[John C. Dvorak]

Surmising from the reportage.

[Adam Curry]

I'm skeptical. Well, we'll have to see. Anything else you want to play before we go into the most important part of the show, which is your tip of the, the day and other interesting tidbits.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, we got the. Yeah, just play this. Let's get it out of the way. The Bangladesh mess.

[Adam Curry]

Boy, I hadn't even followed that. The interim in Bangladesh has temporarily banned the country's oldest political party, the Awami League of the exiled former prime minister Sheikh Hasina. The party is in court over its alleged role in the deaths of almost 1,000 people in an anti government uprising last year.

[C]

Sanjay Dasgupta reports.

[John C. Dvorak]

The interim government's adviser on law and justice, Asif Nasrul, told reporters that all.

[Adam Curry]

Activities of the Army League, including its.

[John C. Dvorak]

Online presence, were being declared illegal.

[Adam Curry]

The suspension will hold till its trial is completed. The country's oldest political party has been.

[John C. Dvorak]

Charged over its alleged role in countering mass rallies last year against its leader and the former Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina.

[C]

The nationwide protests led to her ouster.

[John C. Dvorak]

But not before a large number of demonstrators were killed in a crackdown she ordered. The Awami League has rejected the government's.

[Adam Curry]

Move, calling it illegitimate. Well, I don't know, man. I got distracted by that windows bong. I can't. I don't know what the clip was about. You're messing Me up. You're messing me up with that stuff.

[John C. Dvorak]

I couldn't understand a word the guy said, Ned.

[Adam Curry]

All right, I'll take us out with the most important news of the week. New at 4, the Pentagon has ordered all military leaders and commands to pull and review library books addressing diversity, anti.

[C]

Racism or gender issues.

[Adam Curry]

The deadline is May 21. According to a memo issued today. It's the most detailed directive so far on Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth's campaign to.

[C]

Rid the military of diversity and equity programs, programs and materials.

[Adam Curry]

They have a library at the Defense Department. That's the thing that I didn't know.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm sure it's dynamite. The, the idea that there's anti racism books. No, they're talking about critical race theory books. But they have to change the way they describe it so they make it sound like, ah, he's a racist. I'm gonna show my support by donating to no Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that.

[C]

Oh yeah, that'd be fab.

[Adam Curry]

Well, it was a mainstream news, so yeah, you're probably right. He was a racist. Time now as we prepare for John's tip of the day. Everyone stick around for that. Of course, we have meetup reports and we have some end of show mixes. We got lots of stuff still to come for you. But first, as promised, we will thank the rest of our supporters for episode 17. Oh, which includes a knighthood. $50 and above. Go ahead, John.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes and no races. Here we start off with Christopher Ebert, Spartanburg, South Carolina. $105.35. Sir Stewart in Stafford, Staffordshire, UK 105. 35. And he's got a call to his mom, who's 91, recently passed away. She was mom and granny to all, all of us. Jason with a spelled funny. Jason Dunn in Flagstaff, Arizona, 10535. Which I guess these are $100 donations that have been jacked up. Yes, $100 donation puts them over the top. He's got a birthday for his dad. Look for the. While I read these. Why don't you look for the mom call outs in case I miss any.

[Adam Curry]

Well, just remember we have to read this one because this brings him over the threshold. Because. Yeah, you go ahead, read this. $100 donation brings me over the threshold for knighthood. However, I want to give this knighthood to my dad for his birthday on May 22. He doesn't know that. After my first donation in 2022, I started a small recurring donation and this $100 will allow him to become a Knight. I will let him write in to ask for his knight name. But, you know, for now you can dub him Sir Mike of the Mountain. I would also like to request a de douching for myself.

[John C. Dvorak]

You been de douched.

[Adam Curry]

And then he asked for a clippity clop, which is. Actually, I have a clippity clop for him here. And can you see that juice? Okay, I think we determined that one. And a Karma. Yeah, you got it.

[John C. Dvorak]

The message is clear.

[Adam Curry]

Speedy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, my gosh.

[Adam Curry]

Can you see that juice?

[C]

You've got karma.

[Adam Curry]

None.

[John C. Dvorak]

MFDX of Anjou. 8698. He says donation note. Boobs on my knees. 86. Okay, I get it. Birthday wish to MFMX of London, his 18th. Okay, you'll call it the mom there. Commodore Dame Early Turtle in Topeka, Kansas. 8430. Kevin McLaughlin, 8008. He's the Archduke Luna of boobs Lover America and boobs. Archduke of Luna. He might as well be the Archbishop of Luna.

[Adam Curry]

He might as well be. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Brandon Handy Handy in Glencoe, Alabama. 7,344. Jason Shepard in Trinidad, Colorado. 6,006. Michael Henry in Schnellyville, Georgia. 5,945. And it's a happy VE Day donation. Scott Mengele. Mengele. Mangle. Mangle. Not Mangele. He's got no scalpel.

[Adam Curry]

Mangele.

[John C. Dvorak]

Scott mangle in Exton, Pennsylvania. 55. 55. In memory of my mom, Leslie Rosen Ball. What is Rosenbaum? Yeah, in West Bloomfield, Michigan. 5272. Love your show. No, I'm expecting more mothers call outs here, but I'm not getting them. They're not on the spreadsheet anyway.

[Adam Curry]

No.

[John C. Dvorak]

Jim geeting in Dallas. 5125. Bad idea. Oh, bad idea. Supply is back. 5005. You can look them up on the Internet. They make anything you want to burn stuff. Get a hold of Bad Idea Supply. Roderick Brown in now. These are all $50 donors. We're already there. We're almost done. These are names and locations of $50 donors. Is there a mom call out? I don't see one yet. Roderick Brown in Mermaid, Florida. I'm sorry, mermaid. Where is P.E. oh, it's Canada. There you go. What's P.E. canada Province. P.E.

[Adam Curry]

Province. I don't know.

[John C. Dvorak]

Maybe it's at Northern Province. I have no idea. But he's in Canada. And in town of Mermaid. William Spain in Springdale, Arkansas. Rene KT Netherlands. Stephen Shoemake in Xenia, Ohio. Mike. Mike Moon. In Athens, Georgia, Andrew Grasso. Oh, Andrew Grasso. We haven't heard from him for a while. He's in minneola time.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Tom Del Vecchio in Blandon, Pennsylvania, John Ford in McKinney, Texas. And last on our list is our favorite Dame Rita over there in Sparks, Nevada. And she says thank you for your courage. Want to thank these people for making show 1763 a good show. Good show.

[Adam Curry]

Prince Edward. Prince Edward island, maybe.

[John C. Dvorak]

Prince Edward Island. That's gotta be it.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Thank you to these donors. $50 and above. We appreciate every single person who supports the best podcast in the universe. We don't mention anything under 50 for reasons of anonymity, but we always look at the list. We see you 4999ers and we appreciate you very much. Go to Noah J. Support the best podcast in the universe. It's value for value. If you get anything out of the show, if there's anything that you said, oh, you know, that's kind of good to know, then support us. Send us something back. Time, talent, treasure, no agenda. Donations, dot com. Pretty short list. I only see three today. Sir Kevin Dills turns 39 on the 12th. J son dynamic. Done. Happy birthday to his dad Mike celebrating on the 22nd. And MFDX of Anju says happy wishes. MFMX of London a happy birthday. MF MX of London is turning 18 years old. Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. And we have one night that would be the. The dad who is going to enter the round table of the knights and dames. So grab your dad blade there for a second right here.

[John C. Dvorak]

The dad Blade.

[Adam Curry]

That's beautif. All right, Mike Dunn, step on up. Your son likes you, Mike Dunn. Thanks to your son's very sneaky support of a hundred dollars over many, many moons and months, you are hereby pronounced hated. As a knight of the Noah dinner roundtable, you are to be called Sir Mike of the Mountain until you tell us differently. For you, sir. Oh boy, what a treat. Hookers and blow, Rent boys and chardonnay. We got diet soda and video games. Fish pie and fellatio. We have redheads and ryes. We got beer and blunts. We have Ruben S Woman and Rose Gayson and sake vodka, Manila bong hits and bourbon spiker cider and escorts. Ginger ale and gerbils. We got breast milk and pablum or. I'm sure you'll like this, Mike. Sir Mike. Mutton and mead right here at the round table of the no agenda Knights and dames. And you sir can head over to noagendarings.com you'll see the ring that you will soon be sporting on your ring finger. Whatever finger you give us a measurement for. There's a handy ring size guide on the website and let us know where to send it your official no Agenda night ring. And thank you very much to your son and welcome to the no Agenda roundtable. No Agenda, no Agenda meetups. They happen all around Gitmo Nation. They are a global phenomenon. This is where you hang out with people who once you meet them you'll go back to these meetups. I guarantee it. This is your first responders in any emergency will come from the people you meet at the no Agenda meetup. They are connection that gives you the ultimate protection. And we have a well nothing today. On Wednesday the royal visit the ultra special Amygdala checkup meetup in Leiden at 7:33 in the Dutch time at local in Leiden, the Netherlands. Baron Robb is organizing that. And on Thursday, our next show day, Charlotte's thirsty. Third Thursday monthly meetup, 7 o' clock Ed's Tavern in Charlotte, North Carolina. Sir Kevin Dills will be sponsoring that for you on the way. We have, let's see the 16th we have Whitefield, New Hampshire. Then the 17th Bedford, Texas, Colorado Springs, Colorado, Fort Wayne, Indiana, New Kent, Virginia, Springfield, Oregon. But maybe most importantly, the Fredericksburg meetup. Matt Long is, is. Is hosting that with his lovely wife. And let me see, it's going to kick off at 3:33 until the cows come home. That'll be at 17:76 and Luckenbach right outside of Fredericksburg. Go to no agendameetups.com for more information. And we have a promo for the Kansas City meetup. Attention Kansas City producers. You're invited to another KC meetup based baseball and barbecue edition.

[John C. Dvorak]

Meet us at Maple Hill park in Overland Park, Kansas on Saturday May 31st.

[Adam Curry]

At 3:33pm Bring a bat and glove for some fun on the diamond and enjoy some hometown barbecue. If you're gonna go, let us [e-mail] well there you go. The Kansas City Meetup. It's gonna be a hootenanny that is just one of the many no Agenda meetups taking place all around the world. Go to noagendameetups.com to find one near you. If you can't find one near you, don't worry. You have an obligation to start one yourself. It's easy and it'll be guaranteed a party. Sometimes you wanna Go hang out with all the nights and days names.

[John C. Dvorak]

You want to be where you want to be where everybody feels the same. It's like a party.

[Adam Curry]

Always a party. Guaranteed a party. Yeah. This is the moment in the show where we do not let up. No. Instead of letting up, we just continue with more fun and shenanigans of finding the perfect ice cream isolated clip for the end of show. I am loaded for bear today. I've got. What do I got here? I got like five of them.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, so let me have them.

[Adam Curry]

Okay. Do not mock us. There's one, dude. Okay. Second one.

[C]

It's done.

[John C. Dvorak]

We're all done.

[Adam Curry]

Okay. In the morning.

[John C. Dvorak]

Ends with good night.

[Adam Curry]

No, no. Yo, yo, yo.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's the show.

[Adam Curry]

I kind of like that one myself.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, man, these guys are uncomparable, huh? I like the yo, yo, yo, the best of that group.

[C]

It's so good.

[Adam Curry]

Okay. Oh, yo, yo, yo. So you like the yo, yo, yo. This one. Yo, yo, yo.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's the show.

[Adam Curry]

Okay. All right. Well, we have a contender at least. What do you have?

[John C. Dvorak]

I like that. Well, I've got a couple ones. I got. One of them's not under ISO. It's under. If I typed it wrong. USI loved it.

[Adam Curry]

USI loved it.

[C]

But I loved it. But I loved it.

[Adam Curry]

A little short.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it was short.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Then I have ISO donate.

[C]

Please use the button below now to donate.

[Adam Curry]

A lot of music and I didn't like the music.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sorry. We got a cough now. ISO Swoon.

[C]

That show made me swoon. It was so, so good.

[Adam Curry]

No woman talks like that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, then I can't play the last one, which is not safe for work. And people are gonna have to put their kids aside if you want to play because I actually programmed as I can. I don't know if it was got sentient, but I had it design its own. The AI design its own.

[Adam Curry]

What was the prompt? What was the prompt you put?

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm not going to give it away again. People give it. Okay.

[Adam Curry]

People might want to do this for themselves at home.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

So wait, wait.

[Adam Curry]

I.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's. I think that I got it to become self aware and give us it. This is not safe for work and I. I'm embarrassed that it even showed up this way. But this is the way the clip came out after I. I cut loose the AI.

[C]

I really, really want to. These two guys.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, John.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, this is that terrible. I'm sorry.

[Adam Curry]

Horrible. Yo, yo, yo.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's the show.

[Adam Curry]

That's what we're gonna go with man, that is just horrible. I can't believe you did that. I can't believe it.

[John C. Dvorak]

I can't. I didn't. That's the point.

[Adam Curry]

Oh yeah, sure. Ah, here's something he did do. It is his very own tip of the day.

[John C. Dvorak]

Great advice for you and me. Just the tip with JCD and sometimes at created by Dana Brunetti.

[Adam Curry]

I didn't mean to do that. The AI did it for me.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Likely story.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, I know doesn't sound real but.

[Adam Curry]

Does not not sounds so bogus.

[John C. Dvorak]

I. No. So I had. I was gonna do another boo some more boozy stuff but I just. I got this note from Crystal Boggs, one of our priorities producers and she gave me a tip that was just like. And I looked over the thing. I can't. I haven't used the product. I looked over all the features. I down. I've got it set up to use it but it's nothing I would use. But I can see it being something that would be very valuable to a lot of people especially. Especially after listening to that horrible AI clip that created itself for people that want to keep movies and other productions clean. Clean. This is a censorship product that I'm going to read the note from her and this is going to be the product. The product is VidAngel v I-a n g e l.com ITM John and Adam on the last show you mentioned that some TV shows are absolutely unwatchable now because of the stuff thrown in to them these days. I think we're specifically referring to the horrible show Black whatever it was. So it's got the gay sex scene. We've been using the 999 per month service VidAngel for several years. Several years and love it. It filters out whatever you want. You can customize show or movie using preset filters. You can watch most titles by linking your streaming services. We originally got it so our kids could watch shows they otherwise couldn't with us. But my husband and I have used it just as much for our own shows. We don't have to be surprised by anything unsavory like you both experienced. And if a kid comes downstairs for water, they're not going to catch a glance of anything. We have to talk about later. We have to talk about. We recently use it to watch Jack Ryan, the Agency, the Diplomat and more. I can also enjoy the office with my teen with all the hilarious social awkwardness, but none of the adult jokes. It's got like 300 filters and I don't know how it Even works.

[Adam Curry]

But that's interesting thing.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's a very interesting product for people out there that really want to. They're leery of what.

[Adam Curry]

What's it called again?

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. It's under www. Vidanger V I D. Like video V I D angel.com and I will say this. I have mixed feelings about censorship products like this. Although I can see they're. They're. I can see their value for sure. That's why I'm recommending it. But I remember one time I was on a flight and movies on airplanes are censored.

[Adam Curry]

Back when they started the engines with a shotgun shell.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is way after that.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

So they have the in flight movie and I watched Get Shorty which I thought was a hilarious film, but there's some of it just for some reason I was unsatisfied at the end of it because it's. I don't know what it was but the movie made no. No sense.

[Adam Curry]

Huh.

[John C. Dvorak]

But it was funny. So then I saw it on TV like years later and in the movie, which is a key element within the movie, there's an airplane crash and they had.

[Adam Curry]

They left that in.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, they took it out. They had to. Airplane movies will never have an airplane crash in the movie. It's a policy of all the airlines.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I understand that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, for good reason.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

But if you don't know about the airplane crash, the movie doesn't make a lot of sense.

[Adam Curry]

This is the irony of this coming from the guy who just played a not safe for work. ISO is not lost on me that this is your tip of the day.

[John C. Dvorak]

I thought it would make up for the clip.

[Adam Curry]

Not at all interesting.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is this just vid angel vidangel vidangel.com check it out. Sounds like.

[Adam Curry]

Sounds like vid buzzkill is what it sounds like to me. All right.

[John C. Dvorak]

It could be if you put enough filters on.

[Adam Curry]

You can go check it out. And if we're reminded, reminder of all of John's tip of the days tipoftheday.net and sometimes Adam created by Dana Burnetti and here's a tip for you. Come back on Thursday for more media deconstruction. Your no agenda show. Find out what's happening. Maybe we'll know what the big announcement is by then. I'm sure something will happen. Yeah, I'm hoping something will happen, that's for sure.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, something always happens.

[Adam Curry]

Something always happens. And sometimes it's on a show day. But right now a lot of his trump, Trump, Trump. So we just try to make you smarter if you get any value from this show, please consider sending some value back to us. Time, talent or treasure. Noagendashow.net is where you can get all the information, the latest episodes and the back episodes. Search the show notes Bingit I.O. and support the [e-mail] Nick the Rat is up next on the no agenda stream, followed by end of show mixes from Brian Longenecker, a classic from him, and brand new from David Keck that was up all night struggling with his windows machine. We appreciate that coming to you from the heart of the Texas hill country right here in the Fred Freak off in the morning, everybody.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak.

[Adam Curry]

We'll be back on Thursday, everybody. Until then, remember to tip your waitress and support [e-mail] and no agenda donations.com till then.

[John C. Dvorak]

We are finally going to lead again. You see what's happening? You see the rockets going up left and right. You haven't seen that for a long time. Very soon we're going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going Mars if my opponent won that, I can tell you. Space force, Force, Force Force, Space force.

[Adam Curry]

Air power, Space, Space power. Aef. Air power, Space power aef.

[John C. Dvorak]

Space force.

[Adam Curry]

Space Force.

[John C. Dvorak]

Space Force.

[Adam Curry]

With space force, Space force, Force Force. Air power, Space power, aef.

[John C. Dvorak]

We are finally going to lead again. We are finally going to. We are finally going to lead again. You see, what's happening is see the rockets going up left and right. You haven't seen that for a long time. Very soon we're going to Mars.

[Adam Curry]

Space force.

[John C. Dvorak]

Space force.

[Adam Curry]

Air power, Space power, aef. Force, Space force, Force.

[John C. Dvorak]

Space force.

[Adam Curry]

We could have been jerks and just build your credit card Automatic. Please press 1 now to enter your credit card. The best podcast in the universe. We're a big deal.

[John C. Dvorak]

What? I am.

[Adam Curry]

I like it like, oh, wow, man. I've been on no agenda. We're a big deal. We don't, you know, force you into some kind of compliance.

[John C. Dvorak]

Compliance. Pay us or you get Nothing.

[C]

Please press 1 now to enter your credit card.

[Adam Curry]

Man, I've been on no agenda. We're a big deal.

[John C. Dvorak]

Power of the podcast.

[C]

I'm sorry, we're unable to complete bleach. Your call is dialed. Please check the number and dial again or ask the operator for assistance. This is a recording. 91412.

[John C. Dvorak]

The best podcast in the universe.

[Adam Curry]

Audio mofo dvorak.org na yo, yo, yo.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's the show.