1776 - "Eat The Dog Food"

Summary

Podcast Summary: No Agenda Show – Episode 1776: "Eat The Dog Food"

Release Date: June 26, 2025
Hosts: Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak
Description: Deconstructing Media with No Agenda, by Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak

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Introduction and Light Banter ([00:00] – [02:20])

The episode kicks off with the hosts engaging in light-hearted banter about women's ice hockey, including a shout-out to the University of Wisconsin River Falls women's hockey team. The conversation humorously touches on the athleticism of female athletes versus pole dancers, highlighting their differing perspectives on sports and entertainment.

Adam Curry ([00:34]): "I'm John C. Dvorak: Is this field hockey or ice hockey?"

John C. Dvorak ([00:37]): "I think, I think that is a spectator sport. That is undervalued."

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Middle East Tensions and Fragile Ceasefire ([02:20] – [04:20])

Transitioning to more serious topics, Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak discuss the fragile ceasefire between Israel and Iran. They critique the media's portrayal of the ceasefire's fragility, suggesting that emphasizing its precariousness is a tactic to maintain high viewership by keeping audiences anxious about potential conflicts.

John C. Dvorak ([02:41]): "Now, meantime, this fragile cease Fire, the fragile ceasefire. Ceasefire. And it is incredibly fragile."

Adam Curry ([03:24]): "But it is as fragile as Tim Walls, you know, courage. It's a fragile ceasef. Fragile. Very fragile."

The hosts question the actual stability of the ceasefire, pondering why it's labeled as "fragile" despite apparent calm, insinuating that media outlets sensationalize the situation for better ratings.

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Media Manipulation and Political Commentary ([04:20] – [16:00])

A significant portion of the episode critiques mainstream media's handling of Middle Eastern politics, particularly focusing on the influence of figures like AIPAC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee) and the alignment of U.S. foreign policy with Israeli interests. The hosts argue that Israel exerts undue influence over U.S. policies, leading to endless conflicts that drain American resources without clear benefits to the nation.

John C. Dvorak ([12:09]): "They are doing it to spread democracy."

Adam Curry ([18:26]): "It's that simple."

They further delve into the alleged manipulation within U.S. politics, discussing former President Trump's stance on military bases abroad and his supposed resistance against entangling the U.S. in perpetual wars. The conversation highlights the tension between isolationist and interventionist factions within the MAGA movement, emphasizing concerns about American hegemony and the perpetuation of conflicts driven by neoconservative agendas.

John C. Dvorak ([14:52]): "The Murdochs really hate Trump. There's no one who hates Trump more than the Murdochs."

Adam Curry ([17:46]): "And so it's a simple position compared to the chaos we're seeing."

The hosts also touch upon media personalities like Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens, expressing disappointment in their approaches and alignment with broader media narratives that they perceive as harmful or misleading.

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Lobbying and AIPAC's Influence ([16:00] – [35:00])

Continuing their critique, Curry and Dvorak examine the role of lobbying groups, particularly AIPAC, in shaping U.S. foreign and military policy. They argue that AIPAC acts as a confrontational lobbyist pushing for increased military aid to Israel, which they equate to supporting the military-industrial complex.

Adam Curry ([33:40]): "And AIPAC has transitioned into a confrontational lobbying group where if you don't do what they want, they come after you."

John C. Dvorak ([34:11]): "AIPAC is lobbying for more money to go to Israel, which all the money we give to Israel is military money."

The discussion extends to the implications of such lobbying on U.S. national security and economic priorities, suggesting that foreign aid to Israel diverts resources away from domestic needs and perpetuates military engagements abroad.

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NATO Summit and Defense Spending ([35:00] – [54:00])

The hosts shift focus to recent developments in NATO, particularly the summit where member countries agreed to increase their defense spending to 5% of GDP. They interpret this as a collective response to perceived threats from Russia and China, analyzing the strategic positioning of the U.S. within the alliance.

John C. Dvorak ([37:53]): "NATO's commitment to Ukraine endures."

Adam Curry ([38:20]): "President Trump."

They critique the narrative presented at the summit, suggesting that the U.S. is attempting to maintain its global dominance by encouraging allies to shoulder more of the defense burden. The conversation includes skepticism about the true motivations behind defense spending increases and the role of global conflicts in shaping these policies.

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Economic Implications and Oil Prices ([54:00] – [73:00])

Addressing the economic fallout of Middle Eastern tensions, Curry and Dvorak discuss the fluctuations in global oil prices, attributing the recent decline to the fragile ceasefire between Iran and Israel. They speculate on President Trump's comments regarding China's continued purchase of Iranian oil and its impact on the oil market.

Adam Curry ([81:57]): "Global oil prices have tumbled for a second day amid a fragile ceasefire between Iran."

John C. Dvorak ([82:19]): "Below $65 a barrel."

The hosts link these economic changes to broader geopolitical strategies, suggesting that media narratives influence oil markets and, by extension, global economies. They also touch upon the coordinated efforts of intelligence agencies and defense sectors in responding to such geopolitical shifts.

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Donations and Community Engagement ([73:00] – [140:00])

A recurring segment in the episode involves acknowledging donations from listeners. The hosts humorously bestow grandiose titles like "Sir" and "Baron" upon contributors, fostering a sense of community and engagement among their audience. These segments are interspersed with playful interactions, reinforcing the show's informal and irreverent tone.

John C. Dvorak ([128:33]): "Hello, Adam and John Jingles. The Beatles."

Adam Curry ([133:05]): "You've got karma. Sirohn from Weymouth, Massachusetts."

While these acknowledgments are presented in jest, they serve to highlight the value-for-value model the show employs, encouraging listeners to support the podcast financially in exchange for recognition and perks.

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Closing Remarks and Sign-Off ([140:00] – [220:00])

As the episode nears its conclusion, Curry and Dvorak reflect on various cultural and societal issues, including criticisms of mainstream media, discussions about passkeys and internet security, and brief mentions of upcoming meetups and community events. The hosts maintain a conversational and often sardonic tone, seamlessly blending serious commentary with lighthearted banter.

Adam Curry ([219:38]): "If you're going to cook rice, use basmati rice."

John C. Dvorak ([220:20]): "Why should we be cooking basmati rice? What is the tip?"

The episode wraps up with a series of humorous interactions and mock endorsements, reinforcing the show's unique blend of political satire, media critique, and community-building.

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Notable Quotes

• Adam Curry ([03:24]): "But it is as fragile as Tim Walls, you know, courage. It's a fragile ceasefire. Fragile. Very fragile."

• John C. Dvorak ([33:40]): "AIPAC has transitioned into a confrontational lobbying group where if you don't do what they want, they come after you."

• Adam Curry ([82:32]): "President Trump says the US might supply Ukraine with Patriot missile systems."

• John C. Dvorak ([191:56]): "The American Revolution completely baffled King George III because of all the bitching about taxation. He had lowered the taxes but emphasized enforcement."

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Conclusion

Episode 1776 of the No Agenda Show delves deep into the interplay between U.S. foreign policy, media influence, and domestic politics. Through a mix of serious analysis and satirical commentary, Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak challenge mainstream narratives, advocating for a more transparent and accountable media landscape. The episode underscores the hosts' commitment to media deconstruction, community engagement, and fostering informed discourse among their listeners.

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Transcript

[Adam Curry]

Hot take. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's Thursday, June 26, 2025. This is your award winning Get My nation Media Assassination Episode 1776.

[Adam Curry]

This is no Agenda.

[John C. Dvorak]

Making a big splash and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill country here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody.

[Adam Curry]

I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where there's a shout out for the University of Wisconsin River Falls women's hockey team. I'm John C.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is this field hockey or ice hockey?

[Adam Curry]

Ice hockey, the real deal.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, no, I don't like a field.

[Adam Curry]

Back to back champ. National champions is a little school.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, but. But women's field hockey, that's the biggest.

[Adam Curry]

Well, you just like that because they're wearing tight butt things. Just like that. Little butts.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think, I think that is a spectator sport. That is undervalued. And then.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, so is stripping.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, it's not the same. These are athletes.

[Adam Curry]

You don't think a pole dancer is not an athlete.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hold on a second. You're telling me that women who go to a soccer match that they're not looking at how fit the boys are? Of course they are. That's why I'd say at least 30, maybe 40% of the women watch soccer.

[Adam Curry]

So do.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, you saw Ted Lasso?

[Adam Curry]

I watched the I've been to soccer games and in the big stadium in Brazil.

[John C. Dvorak]

You're not a woman. You're not a woman.

[Adam Curry]

I know. I've been to the games and I've seen no women in there. They don't show up.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, they do. They do. That's why they all want to be a wag.

[Adam Curry]

What?

[John C. Dvorak]

A wag. You don't know. We know what a wag is. Wives and girlfriends.

[Adam Curry]

I have no idea what a wag is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wives and girlfriends. That's a wag. Wives and girlfriends are the footballers that those are wags. You get a reality show and you. And in the UK you get on this page three. It's a big deal. They all love.

[Adam Curry]

Well, you can see all the women's real hockey, which is ice hockey. That's not real hockey, Adam. It is Adamari.com.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, fine.

[Adam Curry]

Send him your hate.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let me set the tone. This is something that I would usually share with the middle schoolers here in Fredericksburg. Yes, this is how it goes in mainstream media. And this just in. We are now hearing from Iran's supreme leader for the first time since the fragile cease fire between Israel and Iran was announced.

[Adam Curry]

The fragile cease fire.

[John C. Dvorak]

And now a fragile cease Fire. Well, that was President Trump speaking earlier.

[Adam Curry]

On the fragile Israel, Iran cease fire, claiming he has ended the war amid.

[John C. Dvorak]

A fragile cease fire. Now, meantime, this fragile cease fire, the fragile ceasefire. Ceasefire. And it is incredibly fragile.

[Adam Curry]

A fragile cease fire.

[John C. Dvorak]

A very fragile cease fire.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

There is currently a ceasefire between Israel and Iran.

[Adam Curry]

But it is fragile.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. I mean, the ceasefire is holding, but it's as fragile as Tim Walls, you know, courage. It's a fragile ceasef. Fragile. Very fragile.

[Adam Curry]

I like that. Super clip. Super cut. But the question is why? What made fragile. What was the point of making fragile the key word here?

[John C. Dvorak]

To just put everybody on edge to keep watching, because what fun is a war that just ended. You got to keep people watching.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, it's also anti Trump, of course.

[John C. Dvorak]

It could break any moment. Well, Trump is ratings bonanza all the time. It could break. It's when you think fragile, fragile. A fine bone china cup.

[Adam Curry]

And what would draw that conclusion? That it was fragile? There's no. There hasn't been like, saber rattling on either side. Senses. So why. Why is it deemed fragile?

[John C. Dvorak]

Again, for one reason. One reason only. For ratings.

[Adam Curry]

So you're telling me.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, gambling.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Long pause.

[John C. Dvorak]

That was a good one. I even had to look at the interfaces. Did I lose them? Did I lose them again?

[Adam Curry]

That was a good one. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

So, okay, it's been a fantastic week. I've been glued to the screens, the quad, all the screens. Because such a big happening.

[Adam Curry]

You could have 16 screens using the Google.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, you can only do four. You can do six.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, four. But you have four screens.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, I have a.

[Adam Curry]

So you have four in each.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah, I could if. If I want to go nuts. It's the funniest. It's always when. Boom.

[Adam Curry]

Just a quick story. So there's Mike Cowpland, the guy who did Corel Draw. He's a Canadian and he's the CEO of Corel at the time. And he says. He's talking in a little group. He says. He said, yeah. Somebody says, oh, you know, Mike has like 16 TV screens on the one wall of his office. And I said, well, what for? He says, you never know.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't want to miss anything. The best is when you have four screens and each screen has four people in it. It's like tunnel vision. Like, whoa, what am I doing here? And then all of a sudden, it switches and it's all hegseth or it's all trump it. You know, I never have the sound on. It just. It's entertaining to me. And, oh, man, it was just, you know, we had the big splash in the Hague and we got to talk about that because, of course, it's the country where I grew up. Not my home country, but the country where I grew up. I know the king and queen. Remember, I know the king and queen. The queen here flipped me. We know it. And we know what that means. That means Wag. The best part of the week, though, was the President dropping the F bomb. Because it was. It was actually a. Well, it was like a boomer moment. It's actually the way you drop the F bomb. You know, you'll. You won't use it, but when you know it's going to be effective, you'll just whip it out.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah. When it's effective, I'll whip it out.

[John C. Dvorak]

So, of course, everyone only watched, like 22 seconds and. Oh, this. But you have to kind of hear the. The full. The full. Well, not the full.

[Adam Curry]

It was pretty. Yeah, you had to. You should. The whole clip is. It's good. It's very.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, a little bit more. You know, I cut out all the journalists and I.

[Adam Curry]

Good. And I will say that when he says, you know what I mean, to the reporter after he gives. Drops the F bomb, that was not aimed at the reporter at all. A lot of people don't get that. It was.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I want to play this. It's audible enough. Of course, you hear the whir of Marine One in the background, and I cut out the reporters just so you could hear. It was the same question over and over again. And he answers it kind of the same way. But I don't think many people heard this. How to get it off a C span.

[Adam Curry]

I don't think so, but I'm not happy that Israel is going out. Now, there was one rocket that I guess was fired overboard. It was after the time limit and it missed its target. And now Israel's going out. These guys got to calm down. Ridiculous. I didn't like plenty of things I saw yesterday. I didn't like the fact that Israel unloaded right after we made the deal. They didn't have to unload. And I didn't like the fact that the retaliation was very strong. But in all fairness, Israel unloaded a lot. And now I hear Israel just went out because they felt it was violated by one rocket that didn't land anywhere. That's not what we want, I'll tell you. And I'm telling you, I'm not happy about that Israel either. All I do is play both sides. But we have to have Israel Calm down, because they went on a mission this morning. I got to get Israel to calm down now. Yeah, they both violated it, I don't think. I'm not sure they did it intentionally. They couldn't rein people back. I don't like the fact that Israel went out this morning at all. And I'm going to see if I can stop it. So as soon as I get away from you, I'm going to see if I can stop it. Okay? Israel, as soon as we made the deal, they came out and they dropped a load of bombs, the likes of which I'd never seen before. The biggest load that we've seen. I'm not happy with Israel. You know, when I say, okay, now you have 12 hours, you don't go out in the first hour and just drop everything you have on them. So I'm not happy with them. I'm not happy with Iran either. But I'm really unhappy if Israel is going out this morning because the one rocket that didn't land, that was shot, perhaps by mistake, that didn't land. I'm not happy about that. You know what we have? We basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know what the fuck they're doing. You understand that?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. So he was unhappy with Israel, which they showed very little of that. Actually, you're right.

[Adam Curry]

That was not showing that whole. That I haven't heard that whole clip. But yes, he repeated himself over and over and made it very clear how he felt. And it wasn't happy with Israel. And it stopped. And this is, of course, flies in the face that Israel is running us.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm glad you bring it up because I did go to the podcasts. It's kind of semi podcast and podcast because I'm like, okay, now, I didn't clip it because he's very long, but Dave Smith, I have to give him credit, he actually got on his podcast with one of his comedian buddies and said, do we look like assholes? I'm like, yeah, you kind of do. But. So at least he was honest about it. But I mean, the shallowness of the very successful YouTubers, I should say, because, yeah, they have podcasts, but they're all kind of married to the YouTube algo. It's just shallow and knee jerk. And they. And I'm so disappointed with analysis and, you know, just what are you thinking? Don't you see what's going on here? And we'll start with Tucker Carlton Carlson. Tucker Carlson, Ed, for the second time on his show, you're a favorite of mine, Clayton Morris, who I guess lives in America again. Does he?

[Adam Curry]

I think from what I can tell, it's hard to tell where. I think they still have their place in Portugal, but they're trying to move to Florida before the lawsuits start from. I think the lawsuits may have been resolved or Florida, you know, Florida is a state, an interesting state. Besides having no personal income tax, Florida is the only state where you can be sued into oblivion and never lose your house. Lose your house.

[John C. Dvorak]

Right, right. Well, that would make sense. That would make sense.

[Adam Curry]

So if you're going to move back and Florida's pleasant.

[John C. Dvorak]

So here they are yapping together, yapping about. And, you know, this was the general narrative, but the clips after this, we'll get into it because I just have to. Because we've been talking about this for a long time. It's the same argument that they used in 2002, that it's an existential threat to the United States of America, that Saddam Hussein is going to use intercontinental ballistic missiles. He's going to gather a warhead with anthrax. He's gonna shoot, you know, he's gonna shoot it into some mall somewhere. Don't think anyone actually ever said that. So, you know, this is AI Morris, hallucinate, hallucinating on the job here. So that's the fear, right? They're gonna, they're playing on our fear that we are going to be attacked by Iran and we. They don't have an intercontinental ballistic missile to hit us. Don't let the facts get in the way. They actually don't have a nuclear warhead. They don't have the reentry mechanism to even make that happen. Clayton Morris, now apparently a nuclear arms expert. But we need to be fearful of it. Like, I don't wake up fearful of Iran in the morning. Maybe I'm dumb, you know, maybe I'm an idiot and I should, that should be the first thing that I do when I wake up in the morning. Not like the trend Aragua gang down the street. I should be more worried about Iran is going to attack me. And by the way, why would they attack us? I know. Like, why, why aren't they attacking Sweden right now? If they hate our freedoms, why aren't they attacking Norway right now? Okay, why would they attack us if.

[Adam Curry]

We get the, if we get the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hell out of there? It's dumb. Maybe we wouldn't, maybe we wouldn't have these problems if we wouldn't build these bases in their backyard. This is the General narrative, like we are the big bully and that we've been this way and it's our fault. And of course, Trump promised we wouldn't do that. I think he promised to stop the Forever wars. But people have gotten in their mind, you're not going to be like Bush somehow if we wouldn't meddle.

[Adam Curry]

Well, hold on. So Trump has indicated that he's a little sick of all the bases we have all around the world, a lot of money, but he's never said we're going to close them or just bitches about it. But this is the Forever Wars. You're right. This is real.

[John C. Dvorak]

It was, it was. You heard on the end of show mixes. He's been threatening to blow Iran to smithereens during, you know, in between presidencies during the campaign. It's not like he hasn't ever said that there would, this would be an option. So I'm not, not my opinion one way or the other. But let's just be factual. Don't let facts stand in the way of what you're saying. Clayton Morris. If we wouldn't meddle in trying to decapitate their leadership and overthrow and install a pro Western government and tell them to open McDonald's, but we can't. We seem like we're so addicted to doing it. And we thought under Trump that this would be a realignment. We're not going to do this. Yeah, this is the, you'll hear this term later, the 911 generation. This is, this is why they voted for him, apparently. And what' happening is cable news, in particular, Fox News. They are, they think Trump is a. These guys think Trump is a dummy. You like him. You know, Tucker likes Trump, but he's a dummy and he's being played by cable news. It sounds like msnbc, what they're saying here. Well, the whole, the whole game has been to manipulate the president, of course, because he's dumb. And, you know, I think that's true with any president. I mean, that's the seat of power. So, of course, a lot of people aren't interested in, you know, moving it in their direction. I get it. You know, it's all, it's not surprising. It's not even offensive. It's just the way things are. I'm just offended watching these people who I know personally and I know for a fact they hate Trump. The Murdochs really hate Trump. There's no one who hates Trump more than the Murdochs.

[Adam Curry]

I got fired in April of 2023.

[John C. Dvorak]

In May of 2023. They asked me to run for president against Trump. Did you hear this? Did you know about this?

[Adam Curry]

I've never heard this before. I know that Trump mentioned the fact that Murdoch told him not to run for president when he first in 2015 because they knew each other and he just thought it was a dumb idea. But I never heard that. Nobody. I've never. This is bull crap. And said they would back me.

[John C. Dvorak]

Obviously, I'm not running for any.

[Adam Curry]

I would never get elected.

[John C. Dvorak]

Any. Plus, I like Trump.

[Adam Curry]

The funny thing is I actually genuinely. I'm frustrated now.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hold on. I'm sorry. You just said that and people buy. I mean, they asked you to run for president against Trump. The Murdoch. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Lachlan Murdoch said you should run for. We'll back you.

[Adam Curry]

The whole, the whole thing.

[John C. Dvorak]

The whole, the whole Fox News apparatus.

[Adam Curry]

And not just Fox, but, you know, Wall Street Journal.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right, so. And then they, later on they get in.

[Adam Curry]

This would. This would have come out right now.

[John C. Dvorak]

I would think so too. But this is just a. An appetizer for the true leader of the MAGA schism, the 911 generation leader herself, Candace Owens, who went on Piers Morgan. And I like this because, Pierce, I cut out most, almost all of Piers Morgan because he's like a podcaster. He takes him five minutes to get the question out. But this is. But her opinion here, by the way.

[Adam Curry]

Way people out there should know that we spend most of our time doing exactly what Adam just said, cutting out these guys because they can't ask a simple question.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, they can't. And it's never a great question.

[Adam Curry]

Never.

[John C. Dvorak]

So this is about the MAGA schism. And this is. You'll hear. And these are the talking points that are not talking points, but is the narrative mainly amongst, you know, the big podcasters, the YouTubers, the people you wanted us to deconstruct and analyz.

[Adam Curry]

Thank you. It's good to be back just in time for World War 3.

[John C. Dvorak]

You are implacably opposed to what both Israel and now the United States have done here. Why?

[Adam Curry]

Because. Well, first and foremost, just on the MAGA movement level, Trump came out and he gave us a promise that we were not going to be involved in wars.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I'm going back to 2015. Why do people get so excited about.

[Adam Curry]

Donald Trump, who was then an unlikely candidate, who was being smeared by the media as being Adolf Hitler? Well, it was because he recognized that.

[John C. Dvorak]

The American people were being forgotten while.

[Adam Curry]

We were giving billions of unaccounted billions, by the way, for These never ending wars. And so it's one of the earliest reasons that people got behind him and got behind his vision.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, I'm gonna disagree with that. I think his main topic in both cases was illegal immigration and the border. It was the wall in Trump 1.

[Adam Curry]

And Mexico's gonna pay for it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, there.

[Adam Curry]

But it was the. And he comes down the escalator, first thing he talks about is Mexicans. That's when they started blasting him for saying, oh, Mexicans are rapists. Which he never said.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yep, yep.

[Adam Curry]

And all the misstatements that they credited him with.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

And there was no talk about the forever wars thing came in much later. And so we're opposed to a regime change because America as a country has a lot of problems that need to.

[John C. Dvorak]

Be fixed here first. Same as Tucker and Morris there.

[Adam Curry]

It's that simple.

[John C. Dvorak]

But even when Trump talked about regime change, think he meant from within, as we saw in Syria in December, where the people themselves rise up. And if that was to happen, why would that be a bad thing?

[Adam Curry]

So first and foremost, the idea that you have to formally declare war on like a piece of paper in order for war to happen is a little bit ridiculous. I mean, he dropped bombs. He dropped bombs in Iran. So yes, we are a part of this war whether we like it or not. Iran is not.

[John C. Dvorak]

This, of course, was one day before the fragile ceasefire.

[Adam Curry]

So yes, I love the timing of some. Oh yeah, people's. Yeah, this bloviating. You know, just before the whole thing stops.

[John C. Dvorak]

As we say, this didn't age well or not.

[Adam Curry]

Iran is now speaking and saying that they're going to shut down the Hormuz Straits. There's going to be impact on oil.

[John C. Dvorak]

Why would they do that? Why would they do that? Good question, Pierce. When the main. You can hear her, she's going to go hum and a hum because you know, she just heard. She just heard something and spouts it off. They're going to close the Hormu Straits.

[Adam Curry]

Down, the Hormuz Straits. There's going to be impact on oil.

[John C. Dvorak]

Why would they do that? Why would they do that when. When the main victim of doing that would be Iran? I mean 50, 50 of China, of the traffic of stuff through there is for China, which is one of their allies.

[Adam Curry]

Don't care. Not my business. The part, the point that I'm making here.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not my monkey, not my circus, okay, I don't care. Now that you corrected me, I'm just gonna say don't care. Don't care. Not.

[Adam Curry]

That's pretty Much like. I don't know if you have any clips. I didn't get any clips of it. But when Bernie Sanders went on Rogan.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah. About the climate change.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah. And every, you know, Sanders did the same, same deflection. I never read that article.

[John C. Dvorak]

I trust science. One of their allies don't care.

[Adam Curry]

Not my business. The part, the point that I'm making here is that to make the assumption that you can just drop bombs on.

[John C. Dvorak]

A country and then say, well, you know what?

[Adam Curry]

We didn't formally declare patently ridiculous.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think that is just patently ridiculous, isn't it? Patently false is maybe the term, but she's using it as patently ridiculous and I guess she wants Congress to declare.

[Adam Curry]

War and then I don't know what she wants.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, but keep, keep with it because it's going to be clear.

[Adam Curry]

No, what we didn't formally declare war is patently ridiculous. I think that is just patently ridiculous.

[John C. Dvorak]

What about when he killed General Soleimani, one of the, one of Iran's top managers.

[Adam Curry]

An assassination, a strike. And that of course came with some risk. It's a little bit different to be flying out B sick bomber, B6 bombers.

[John C. Dvorak]

B bombers. This is, this is a whole new level bomber.

[Adam Curry]

Is that a new bomber? We haven't heard it.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's super stealth.

[Adam Curry]

It's a little bit different to be flying out B6 bomber, B6 bombers in the middle of the night and dropping bombs at the behest of BB Net and Yahoo.

[John C. Dvorak]

Which brings me to the second place. There it is. At the behest. This is what they. This is what Scott Horton says. This is what the term behest. I had to look it up just to make sure. Behest, noun. An authoritative command or urgent request, something done or carried out at the bidding or direction of another example, at the King's behest, the army marched to the border. So it's very clear what she's saying. She's saying Israel runs America.

[Adam Curry]

The reason that America wants a regime change in Iraq. Yes, I think she thinks that.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, she does. This is why I'm playing this, because I'm going to blow it apart in a minute.

[Adam Curry]

The reason that America wants a regime change in Iran is because Bibi Netanyahu is demanding. And that answers the question as to why there is this split in the MAGA movement. What we are seeing right now is the infiltration of Israel first people, the neocons, people who have always wanted never ending wars. And the people who have recognized that following Israel's foreign policy initiatives has led to America being on the decline.

[John C. Dvorak]

And so that's where I stand.

[Adam Curry]

I am with the MAGA people who grew up, I call us like, you know, generation 9 11, who were told that America was going to be rendered safer, cleaner. All we had to do was agree, agree to go to, well, ironically, war with Iraq because of weapons of mass destruction. It's all of the same rhetoric dating back to 9 11. All of the same tactics of trying.

[John C. Dvorak]

To smear people who are against this.

[Adam Curry]

War as supporting jihadists.

[John C. Dvorak]

It is. None of this is happening right now, Candace.

[Adam Curry]

Not my business to infect a, to affect a regime change in Iran. It's simply not our business. It doesn't impact us one way or the other.

[John C. Dvorak]

And we also are completely done with the idea that these decades long idea.

[Adam Curry]

That we're doing it to spread democracy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Another thing that was, I didn't hear anyone saying, did the president say this is for to spread democracy?

[Adam Curry]

Nope.

[John C. Dvorak]

No.

[Adam Curry]

That's always a Democrat talking point.

[John C. Dvorak]

Exactly.

[Adam Curry]

There's these decades long idea that we're doing it to spread democracy because we believe in international liberalism.

[John C. Dvorak]

There was no imminent threat to the.

[Adam Curry]

United States when Trump made this decision to do what he wanted.

[John C. Dvorak]

I want to be clear here. This was not Trump's decision. It was Bibi Netanyahu's decision and that.

[Adam Curry]

Is the reason that he did it.

[John C. Dvorak]

And we're very aware that Israel is.

[Adam Curry]

Dictating our foreign policy and we would now like that to stop.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, so. So we're very aware that Israel is dictating our foreign policy. Oh, you weak sister, you we and weak brother Tucker. Because this is what they all think and they are so wrong. But it's okay.

[Adam Curry]

Wait, wait. You know, I've got knowledge to bring this clip in, which I think is a good clip. And I think about Bannon and I think about Tucker and I think about her now, and I think it just skewed me just a little bit to thinking that these, all three of these people and all the other naysayers in that camp.

[John C. Dvorak]

And there's a camp, there's a camp.

[Adam Curry]

They're all a bunch of Jew haters. It's got nothing to do with who's running who. They just don't like Jews. And you're see Bannon, you know, he worked in Hollywood. He probably worked with a bunch of obnoxious, you know, Jewish agents, you know, that pushed him around. Of course he had issues with that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Make no mistake, they run entertainment. We're not denying that.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. And they push people around and they make your life miserable if you're not going along with the program. And he didn't. Like, like, I think that this is just a bunch of anti. And I know we get some flak on that, but people can, you know, hey, I'm old. I can say what I want.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, that's right. You can drop an F. I think.

[Adam Curry]

This is just anti Semitic.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, yes, because listen to this next clip.

[Adam Curry]

And especially when what we're talking about is a. What could rise to be a nuclear war. Right. We should have done things the right way.

[John C. Dvorak]

Right.

[Adam Curry]

And he had indicated that he was going to wait two weeks, and then he didn't wait two weeks because Bibi.

[John C. Dvorak]

Netanyahu, at least according to the Israeli.

[Adam Curry]

Press, if you believe it, said, we're.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not waiting two weeks.

[Adam Curry]

We want this done immediately. And, but I will say you are correct.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's not just doing.

[Adam Curry]

Doing this because even Netanyahu demands it.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's also doing it because Miriam Adelson demands it. There it is.

[Adam Curry]

$100 million. It was very clear what she wanted.

[John C. Dvorak]

She was clear that she wanted to.

[Adam Curry]

Annex the West Bank.

[John C. Dvorak]

So there was. Did Miriam Adelson say she wanted to annex the West Bank?

[Adam Curry]

I have no idea.

[John C. Dvorak]

Did we miss that?

[Adam Curry]

We might have. I mean, it's possible she's a little.

[John C. Dvorak]

Loopy, but this is great. She was clear that she wanted to.

[Adam Curry]

Annex the west bank.

[John C. Dvorak]

So there was an imperialist plan that was put into. And unfortunately, when you do a deal.

[Adam Curry]

With the devil, you're going to have to eventually deliver the pound of flesh.

[John C. Dvorak]

So because of $100 million donation to the Trump campaign, he is now acting at the behest of Bibi Netanyahu. Bibi Netanyahu didn't want to wait two weeks. He says, you go and bomb him now, little, little Trump man. You do what I tell you, okay? And Tucker and Clayton Morris, he's dumb. He's just being psyop. You guys are so far off. And I will explain why after we enjoy more, because there's more Jew hate to come. And that is what Trump is doing, in my opinion.

[Adam Curry]

And more evidence of that is the facts. When he tweeted that there could be.

[John C. Dvorak]

A Trump hotel in Gaza, I mean.

[Adam Curry]

That was truly, in my opinion, the most inhumane thing he's ever tweeted. Well, I think it was pretty clear what he was.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think what he was doing there was pretty clear. He's saying he wants a better life for Palestinian people, a life where they.

[Adam Curry]

Have beat when you Pair that with Jared Kushner, Jared Kushner's private equity firm and their ties to what's happening in Israel. And Jared Kushner being on camera, on camera October 7th saying, wow, that property could be worth a lot of money. It makes me a little bit uncomfortable. It makes Americans a little bit uncomfortable. Now you've asked me.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's so out of context, but I love it. Like, yeah, yeah, the Jew was right there. He was ready to take that land and valuable property to come onto your.

[Adam Curry]

Show to explain to you how the now very fractured magma movement is feeling. And I'm telling you that right, by the way, we shouldn't even call this.

[John C. Dvorak]

A schism because trying to dress this up and delude us into believing that.

[Adam Curry]

The MAGA movement, it is what has Meghan McCain cheering John Bolton cheering, has Mark Levin cheering. The literal faces of the Never Trump movement are saying, this is real maga.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, we're not going to be that delusional. You're on the same side as Alexandra Casey Cortez. You're asking about the MAGA movement.

[Adam Curry]

The MAGA movement has always been a.

[John C. Dvorak]

Movement that explicitly did not want to.

[Adam Curry]

Keep involving our sons and daughters in the Middle East. So we have not changed that position.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, hold on. So she thinks that Bol Bolton was in the MAGA movement, though she says.

[John C. Dvorak]

That Bolton is now saying this is the real MAGA movement.

[Adam Curry]

No, I understand that, but the way she put. Because when he. When he calls out the other person, I forgot who he just said.

[John C. Dvorak]

Alexandria Ocasio Cortez.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah. Well, she's not maga. Bolton was never maga.

[John C. Dvorak]

No. No.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, so that's just convenient use of.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Taking a square peg, shoving it in.

[John C. Dvorak]

That damn last clip of Candace, and then I'll blow this apart for them.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, but you wouldn' just disagree, presumably.

[John C. Dvorak]

That Iran has been the main sponsor of terrorism in the Middle east through the Houthis, through Hezbollah, through Hamas. I mean, that's widely accepted and recognized. They've done it.

[Adam Curry]

Things widely accepted now that's just kind of. Israel has been a terrorist state. Okay. Israel right now is imparting a genocide and a holocaust on the Gazan people.

[John C. Dvorak]

So I'm really over this idea.

[Adam Curry]

Like, somehow Israel has the moral high ground and we have to get behind that.

[John C. Dvorak]

I didn't say that you got to.

[Adam Curry]

Go after the bad guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

I wasn't saying that we have. We can come to Gaza where I think we'll reach agreement about what Israel's government's been doing there in the last few months.

[Adam Curry]

It's relevant if you're going to call Iranians terrorists. If they right now had an open concentration camp where they were mass killing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Their own people, we would all be.

[Adam Curry]

Saying this is ridiculous.

[John C. Dvorak]

So it's rich.

[Adam Curry]

Iran having nukes, but I'm concerned about Israel who won't even admit that they have nukes while at.

[John C. Dvorak]

The same time they are executing a.

[Adam Curry]

Genocide and a holocaust in Gaza that the world is watching.

[John C. Dvorak]

So. So who's the bigger terrorist? Is the question today. I would say, as an American, that.

[Adam Curry]

If we're going to get behind a regime change, it should be in Israel first.

[John C. Dvorak]

So that would be my position.

[Adam Curry]

I think the position of a lot of people who are waking up to the fact that Zionism has brought us nothing but America. Can you name one positive thing that Zionists have contributed to America?

[John C. Dvorak]

There you go. It's about the Zionists. It's about the Jews. I got it, Candace, but you're wrong. And here's Brian Berletic. Brian Burletic, former US Marine he is actually the guy who initially uncovered the Leave it to BB memo. He doesn't like any American hegemony, but he brings up exactly what is going on, exactly what we've been talking about, the multipolar world. And I think it's not nice and it's not great, but I would rather America be the big dog than be at the behest of China. China, because that is truly the best price you pay. Now, that is exact and that's racist, but it's true. This is exactly what you don't want. And this guy explains it in a short clip.

[Adam Curry]

We see the growing multipolar world taking shape. We can see China rising exponentially. We can see Russian and Chinese military capabilities closing that gap, reducing the superiority of American military power. They are rushing through this because next year, two years from now, we, we watched Iran join brics. We watched rail lines be built between China and Iran, military partnerships beginning to form between Iran and Russia. The Shanghai Cooperation Organization.

[John C. Dvorak]

The world sees what the United States.

[Adam Curry]

Is doing, what it's trying to do to reassert power.

[John C. Dvorak]

They are reacting and there is momentum to that.

[Adam Curry]

And the US Is desperately trying to break it.

[John C. Dvorak]

And so, so whether the narrative is.

[Adam Curry]

There or not, whether it's extremely risky or not, they feel as if it's better to attempt this now than later. We can see the way they designed this conflict. It is, is Israel in the, the, the line of fire? Everybody tells me that Israel is the master America is the puppet. But.

[John C. Dvorak]

But the US used Israel to provoke.

[Adam Curry]

This, take responsibility for it, and absorbed the brunt of the retaliation from it. And it is a. It is a replay of what the US has done to Russia through Ukraine.

[John C. Dvorak]

And at the same time they're doing.

[Adam Curry]

This, they are rushing to create a similar dynamic in Asia Pacific against China.

[John C. Dvorak]

Exactly. That's all that it's about.

[Adam Curry]

Not only that, but it's so obvious that. Who is getting beat up? It's not us. The Israelis are getting their job.

[John C. Dvorak]

But John. But aipac. AIPAC has control. They've got. What's that in your mouth? Pictures of everybody. They control our policy, they control our politicians.

[Adam Curry]

It's unbelievable to me that the obvious. I was going to use the word obviousity, which I've used too many times on this show, but it's so obvious that this is what he said. It's exactly right. It doesn't make any sense any other way. Way. Anybody who thinks otherwise is. They're either brainwashed, foolish, or they just hate Jews.

[John C. Dvorak]

So here is Thomas Massie on Theo Vaughn's podcast. You asked, we're doing it. And he will explain lobbying and in particular our favorite lobby.

[Adam Curry]

There's no big giant Great Britain lobby. There's no Australian lobby.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's no German lobby.

[Adam Curry]

The other countries don't have them.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, not like this.

[Adam Curry]

This is singular.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is unique.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, if you're an ally, why wouldn't we work.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hold on, let me play this. I'm sorry, I meant to play this one first.

[Adam Curry]

Two kinds of lobbying groups. There's access lobbying. That's where they're all your friends. They're never mean to you. They would. Even if they don't like you, they'll buy you a steak dinner and they'll try to get you to hear out their point of view. And they figure as long as I can get in that person's office, I'm doing well for the people I'm lobbying for. But then there are confrontational lobbyists like aipac.

[John C. Dvorak]

And AIPAC has transitioned into a confrontational.

[Adam Curry]

Lobbying group where if you don't do what they want, they come after you. Wow. What does it look like? They spent $400,000 against me in my last election. And they are basically advertised themselves as just all things Israel. They are lobbying for more money to go to Israel, which all the money we give to Israel is military money money. So they are basically lobbyists for the military industrial complex. Hello.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, what, What? What? You're telling me AIPAC is lobby for the military industrial complex. Oh, no. But, but the Jews. The Jews.

[Adam Curry]

So he can't put two and two together. You know, Thomas Massie, I've taken a. No, wait, I don't listen to the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Second clip because he does. He does.

[Adam Curry]

I'll complain later.

[John C. Dvorak]

He puts it together here perfectly. Because the narrative is we're giving billions of dollars to Israel. We're doing with. Of Bibi Netanyahu. Listen very carefully about this military industrial complex and the dollars we send.

[Adam Curry]

There's no big giant Great Britain lobby. There's no Australian lobby, there's no German lobby. The other countries don't have them.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, not like this.

[Adam Curry]

This is singular.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is unique.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, if you're an ally, why wouldn't we work with you? Why do you have to convince us that you're our ally? Why do you have to basically go into every congressional office and convince them? And it's because they want to keep the money flow and they've got a good return on their investment. I mean, we send more foreign aid to Israel than to any other country. Yeah, they're, you know, like 10 million people or something. Yeah, I think Tennessee, I don't know the population in Tennessee, but it's probably about, you know, on that order. Yeah, I think this year they said we spent like $12 billion. But that's not actual dollars. It's in military aid, right? Yeah, it's. Well, it's dollars in the treasury. Yeah, but it's not like we give them a. It's a gift certificate that's redeemable at Lockheed Martin and your local Raytheon, you know. Okay, got it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Exactly. You can't just go spend it on whatever. It's a, it's a, it's a gift card from Raytheon. Yes.

[Adam Curry]

For the aircraft carrier that we've got sitting there.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's so obvious.

[Adam Curry]

All those bombs that were dropped on Iran, who made those bombs?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

And then they bitch every once in a while. Israel wants to do its own thing. If they ran us, they would get what they wanted. When they said are 2,000 pound pound bombs. Oh, we can't give you those because you're gonna, you're already bombing Gaza to an extreme. So no 2,000 pound bombs for you. If they're running us, they'd get those 2,000 pound bombs they never got.

[John C. Dvorak]

Exactly, exactly. And so this leads into.

[Adam Curry]

But wait, before you do that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I'm leaning into your clips. Yeah, Massie, sure.

[Adam Curry]

So this guy, which I, you have to admire him because he's very honest and straightforward about what he. How he feels deals. And he's an impediment to the, to the, to the Dem, to the Republican Party. And he's an impediment to Trump's ideas. He's just an impediment. And he thinks he's so smart about it. And he has these little comments. And sure, okay, AIPAC spent 400. They probably did, because they like it. But it was the military industrial complex, not aipac and not the Jews trying to get him out of there. Because he's an impediment.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

And he's. And he's. He thinks he's so smart. Smart. But I have to say. And he is not a dummy. But he's. But he's too smart. You know, he's not. He doesn't even want to play the game.

[John C. Dvorak]

So the military industrial complex and a lot coming out of them, all kinds of interesting messaging, but really what this NATO summit was about. And then we'll get into. You have some clips. I have some clips as well. This was the close. This was the big close. This is when you bring in the CEO of the company who's going to close the deal for trillions of dollars. And here is his head sales guy, Mark Ruther, making the big splash. He's sitting there with all the G7, by the way.

[Adam Curry]

You know, Trump almost fell asleep a couple of times because Ruta was overdoing it too much.

[John C. Dvorak]

Too much.

[Adam Curry]

He was going off the deep end about how great Trump was. And Trump could normally, like, glows a little bit when that happens. It was too much. But it was like, oh, brother, you know, you're overselling, dude. Here it is.

[John C. Dvorak]

For too long, one ally, the United States, carried too much of the burden of that commitment. And that changes today.

[Adam Curry]

President Trump.

[John C. Dvorak]

Dear Donald. Dear Donald, you made this change possible. Your leadership on this has already produced $1 trillion in extra spending from European allies since 2016. And the decisions today will produce trillion, trillions more for our common defense to make us stronger and fairer by equalizing spending between America and America's allies. Now, I'm an American, I'm boomer adjacent, but I'm like, yeah, good job. That trillions of dollars is for us because they. They're all. And. And they've convinced themselves that Russia's gonna attack within five years. It was so. This whole thing was so outrageous that even Queen Ursula, there were defense all over this thing. Here's the Queen Ursula, not the Queen of the Netherlands, Queen of Europe, talking to them. You are adapting to the new reality.

[Adam Curry]

Of a full scale war right here on European soil. And just like your industry, all of Europe is facing a changing international landscape.

[John C. Dvorak]

Your industry is the war industry.

[Adam Curry]

But in recent months, Europe has taken action. Action that seemed unsinkable just a year ago. We set up the Rearm Europe plan to mobilize indeed 650 billion euros in defense investment over the next four years.

[John C. Dvorak]

We must build more bridges between civilian and military. We know that Russia will be capable.

[Adam Curry]

Of testing our mutual defense commitments within the next five years. I thank you for this opportunity to engage with you.

[John C. Dvorak]

Long live Europe.

[Adam Curry]

And thank you very much.

[John C. Dvorak]

Long live Europe. She is best. So here's the. And then I'll. I'll stop. Here's the. The controversial Daddy, Daddy statement.

[Adam Curry]

They're not going to be fighting each other.

[John C. Dvorak]

They've had it.

[Adam Curry]

They've had a big fight. Like two kids in a schoolyard. You know, they fight like hell. You can't stop them. Let them fight for about two, three minutes, then it's easier to stop them.

[John C. Dvorak]

And then Daddy has to sometimes use strong language. You have to use strong language.

[Adam Curry]

Every once in a while you have to use a certain word.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, I just need to explain. Explain. This is a very Dutch thing that he said that people always accuse the Dutch of being rude. This is a different version of it. They're very direct. And it's in, in Dutch culture, in parlance, it's not. You would have, hey, then Papa mute vakoma. You'd say it like that, oh, Daddy has to come and fix stuff, you know, and. And it just comes out. And it made everyone like, oh, you just sucking up to him. Do you have to do that? Because otherwise he gets mad.

[Adam Curry]

Thank you. Deborah Haynes from Sky News.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hi. Hello. The language that you have used when.

[Adam Curry]

Talking to Donald Trump has been notable because of its flattery.

[John C. Dvorak]

Today you called him daddy and you sent a text. That's. See, I love that you called him daddy today. That's not exactly what happens.

[Adam Curry]

No, he didn't call him daddy at all. He said he just was. He was referring to the two kids fighting and somebody breaking up to fight. And Ruth said, yeah, Daddy has to come in and break up the fight. He didn't say Trump your daddy.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's exactly what.

[Adam Curry]

Of course, what was cool about the whole thing was that Trump was funny.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

And at one point, there was another. Somebody brought this up at some other press conference where behind Trump was Rubio and Hegseth and Rubio couldn't keep a straight Face.

[John C. Dvorak]

He was laughing. Let me finish this clip here. Today you called him daddy and you sent a text message to him that.

[Adam Curry]

Was gushing with praise.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is this the way that you feel you have to act when doing business with the US President through flattery and praise? Isn't it a bit demeaning? And doesn't it make you look weak? Okay, so let me just read the text message because that was the head sales guy talking to the CEO. Dear Mr. President, Dear Donald, congratulations and thank you for your decisive action in Iran. This was truly extraordinary and something no one else dared to do. It makes us all safer. You are flying into another big success in the Hague this evening. It was not easy, but we've got them all signed onto 5%. I made my sales goal. Donald, you have driven us to a really, really.

[Adam Curry]

You didn't put that in.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, he didn't. I added that. Donald, you have driven us to a really, really important moment for America and Europe and the world. You will achieve something. No, Amer. No. No uppercase. No. American president in dec. Decades could get done. Europe is going to pay in a big way. Capital. Big, big way. As they. As they should. And it will be your win for the company. Safe travel. See you at His Majesty's dinner.

[Adam Curry]

Company didn't say that either.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I guess he didn't. And so we continue with his answer.

[Adam Curry]

But that's exactly right. That was the sales. And in this case, it would be the sales manager.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Yes.

[Adam Curry]

Who's also. They would be the head sales guy because he was. And talking to the CEO, the boss of him. Of him. Who was the guy he reports to to make sure the sale was done. Or he's the opener. And. And they're both sales guys. And Trump came in to close. Just close the deal. He's the closer.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's the closer. Let me finish Ruta's answer. Isn't it a bit demeaning? And doesn't it make you look weak? No, I. I don't think so. I think it's a bit of a question of taste, but I think he's a good friend. And when he is doing stuff, which is forcing us to. For example, when it comes to making more investments, I mean, would you ever think that this would be the result of this summit if he would not have been reelected president? Do you really think that seven or eight countries who said yes, somewhere in the2030s we might meet the 2%. We've now all decided it in the last four or five months to get to 2%? So doesn't he deserve some grace? And when it comes to Iran, the fact that he took this decisive action, very targeted, to make sure that Iran would not be able to get his hands on a nuclear capability, I think he deserves all the praise. He deserves all the praise. He's my boss. He deserves all the praise. Trillions of dollars, Donald, we have done a good job. Job. So I just have to say that the Dutch no agenda telegram group was on fire because they are saying, ah, it's a body double. That's not Trump. Well, and I of course, have to look at this with a critical eye and a couple of things. The first one, it's unfortunate, but he really, because Zelensky came in a suit, he couldn't wear the hat. And man, it was not a good hair day for the president. They was flipping and flopping and it looked thin.

[Adam Curry]

And you brought this up with me off camera.

[John C. Dvorak]

Off camera, like now.

[Adam Curry]

No, that, that, that. Because I brought up that Trump is wearing the hat at the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

In the Situation Room. And I thought it was funny because they go in there, take pictures and Trump's work got the hat. Hat on. And you mentioned something that I never even considered that a lot of the times he wears the hat because of his hair being just. It's going bad on him. Is it getting old? Is, you know, he's in. It's going to hit 80.

[John C. Dvorak]

No. But even, even beside, as a hair person, which I.

[Adam Curry]

Everyone, this is, this is the point I want you to make.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, everyone. Oh, you're Adam Curry. The hair. Oh, the big hair. Big hair.

[Adam Curry]

Big hair.

[John C. Dvorak]

It took 30 minutes every single morning to get that hair the way it was. Because if I even. I just stood under the shower, I'd look like Mona Lisa. I have a lot of hair, but it's flimsy. It doesn't stand up by itself. And so when I had a day off at any moment, I didn't have to do that wretched hair for 30 minutes. I'd wear a baseball cap, baseball cap, ponytail, all the time. By the way. Ask any of the guys in the hair bands. I'll tell you the same thing. Oh, yeah, baseball cap. That's my saving grace. Otherwise, you look like a homeless person. No offense to homeless people, but you just look like a clocher. So that's what that is. And then comes the, the most interesting part. Look at Maxima. She's taller than Trump. Look at the king. He's taller than Trump. This is not possible. Turns out by a matter of coincidence, Coincidence that I met the King and queen and I spoke with them face to face at length. First of all, the king is as tall as I am. He has a hundred pounds on me, but he is as tall as I am. And I will say he got Trump good because he did the handshake, pulled Trump right in. I don't know if you notice that. That's normally the thing Trump does. Like you shake the hand, you pull the guy in. The King of the Netherlands pulled Trump in, touching his elbow with his other hand. Big power move. I. Trump was tired and he was pooped. He was pooped. And then we have. Because he was probably on the phone with, with his, at the behest of Bibi the whole flight the minute he left. So yeah, he was pooped. And then you have Queen Maxima who I don't know, she got some style advice. Something since when I saw her because I thought she, with all respect, looked a little frank grumpy at the time. She looked dynamite. It's not my particular favorite color dress, but you know, from a, from a telegenic viewpoint, fantastic. Have no. It's like she's taller than Trump. Yeah. Did you see the heels she was rocking? Those were eight inch heels. And her daughter, Princess Amalia, who they are totally grooming, she was standing right next to her almost, if not taller than mom. And by the way, Trump and the Queen know each other very well because when I was chatting with the queen, she said, oh, I just left New York. I love my friend Ivanka. I stay at her house in New York. They know each other. So no, this was the real Trump and it was not a great body and hair day for him. But sometimes you got to go in for the clothes even if you don't feel, feel like it. And that's exactly what he did. So I think it was him. But I was open to it not being him.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I would be open to it too, but I saw no evidence. I'm always on the lookout.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, of course. All right, you got some NATO stuff you want to do? Because I, I'll just take.

[Adam Curry]

I need a breather for a general stuff. I don't have anything except for the bonus clip that's, that's worth deconstructing and talking about. But let's start with the NATO stage summary.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, where's this from?

[Adam Curry]

I believe NTD and staying with NATO. President Trump says he's considering sending more.

[John C. Dvorak]

Patriot missiles to Ukraine NATO members today.

[Adam Curry]

Highlighting the importance of aiding Kiev.

[John C. Dvorak]

And these international correspondent Arian Pazdar has.

[Adam Curry]

The Ukraine update the Patriots and we're going to see if we can make some available. You know, they're very hard to get. We need them too. We were supposed to supplying them to Israel and they're very effective. President Trump says the US Might supply.

[John C. Dvorak]

Ukraine with more Patriot missile systems. The US has routinely pressed for allies.

[Adam Curry]

To provide air defense systems to Ukraine. Many are reluctant to give up the.

[John C. Dvorak]

High tech systems, especially countries in Eastern Europe that also feel threatened by Russia.

[Adam Curry]

Trump now suggests that peace efforts with Moscow have not been very successful. Full it's more difficult than people would have any idea. Vladimir Putin has been more difficult. Vladimir Putin really has to end that war. Trump also met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Wednesday.

[John C. Dvorak]

Zelensky notably changed his military style shirts for a suit. That's after Trump questioned Zelensky's attire in the Oval Office earlier this year.

[Adam Curry]

He's all dressed up today.

[John C. Dvorak]

And Zelensky also joined European leaders, including.

[Adam Curry]

The heads of state from France and and Italy in a meeting with NATO Secretary Mark Rudder.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I think the message that comes out of this Summit is clear. NATO's commitment to Ukraine endures. And the Chancellor of Germany praised NATO's efforts to boost defense spending. He also says Berlin is not concerned about a possible threat posed by Moscow, at least for now. We know that Russia is not strong enough to attack NATO as a whole.

[Adam Curry]

Whole.

[John C. Dvorak]

But we don't know whether they might not test our defense readiness one day. I just want to slip something in regarding Ukraine because there was a setup in the Q and A that was epic. I don't know if you caught it, but there was a BBC reporter from BBC Ukraine. Did you see that?

[Adam Curry]

No.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, well, listen to this setup.

[Adam Curry]

Where are you from?

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm from Ukraine. Oh. So my question to you is whether.

[Adam Curry]

Or not the US Is ready to sell anti air missile systems Patriot to Ukraine.

[John C. Dvorak]

We know that Russia has been pounding Ukraine really heavily. By the way, notice she says sell. She doesn't say give, she says sell. And they're pounding Ukraine right now.

[Adam Curry]

Are you living yourself now in you? My husband is there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow.

[Adam Curry]

And I can see you very. You know, it's amazing.

[John C. Dvorak]

And me with other kids.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, also actually because he wanted me to. Is your husband a soldier?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, he's.

[Adam Curry]

He's there now.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Well, that's rough stuff, right? That's tough.

[Adam Curry]

And you're living here in was and you're a reporter. I am. Good. So let me just tell you, they.

[John C. Dvorak]

Do want to have the anti missile missiles okay. As they call them the Patriots.

[Adam Curry]

And we're going to see if we can make some available.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, they're very hard to get.

[Adam Curry]

We need them, too. We were supplying them to Israel, and they're very effective.

[John C. Dvorak]

100% effective.

[Adam Curry]

Hard to believe how effective. And they do want that more than any other thing, as you probably know. That's a very good question.

[John C. Dvorak]

He can't resist selling while he's already. He's. He's almost selling. Beyond the. Beyond the clothes. He's like. They're very effective. They're really good. They're hard to get right now.

[Adam Curry]

Hard to get. They're going to be a little pricey yet, but they're 100% ineffective. Bullcrap. They're crap. But Raytheon gets all the money.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. This is fantastic. This was a. This was like. All right, I'm Mark. Mark. Mark. Listen to me, what this means. What is your. Donald, I am gonna sell some more Patriots. You watch. Watch what I do.

[Adam Curry]

Just watch me.

[John C. Dvorak]

I got this girl in the audience. She's. She's from Ukraine. I'm gonna pay a lot of attention to her.

[Adam Curry]

And they're very effective.

[John C. Dvorak]

100% effective. Hard to believe how effective.

[Adam Curry]

And they do want that more than any other thing, as you probably know. That's a very good question.

[John C. Dvorak]

You can. You can use Code Bongino, get a discount.

[Adam Curry]

And I wish you a lot of luck. I mean, I can see very upsetting to you.

[John C. Dvorak]

So say hello to your husband. Okay. That was dynamite.

[Adam Curry]

That.

[John C. Dvorak]

That was Trump the salesman to the max. That was very impressive. Very.

[Adam Curry]

That was good. Yeah. Very, very impressive. Okay, part two of the native NATO clip. NATO raising the spending target comes amid global conflicts. British Prime Minister Keir Starmer says developments.

[John C. Dvorak]

In the Middle east won't affect aid to Ukraine. While we work to lower the temperature in the Middle east, we will not for a moment lose focus on Ukraine.

[Adam Curry]

The British Prime Minister is also calling for renewed diplomatic efforts to push Russian.

[John C. Dvorak]

President Vladimir Putin toward a ceasefire. Yeah, there you go. There you go.

[Adam Curry]

I'm almost. I'm almost convinced that Putin's in on this sale.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, why not? He needs to raise money from his own people. Macron was talking about the war economy a year ago. Look, what else are we going to do? The Green New deal sucks. Stuff doesn't work. It's no good. It's expensive.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. So let's build some bombs.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. Yeah. What else?

[Adam Curry]

Let's drive them on Iran.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, go ahead.

[Adam Curry]

I have one last clip, but there's a Little in between clip here. This is the off target clip. I don't know why I put Wilder on there, but this is about Ruda. This was kind of another version of the, of the retort to the daddy thing, which the press was preoccupied about. And I think it was funny because I think at one point Trump or some, or just news media, right wing news media said, why are they obsessing on this daddy thing? But this was an interesting little clip here today.

[John C. Dvorak]

You called him daddy and you sent.

[Adam Curry]

A text message to him.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is my.

[Adam Curry]

The same clip. Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

You already played it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

All right. Now this will be the bombing clip. This is bomb. It says bomb. Yes, with an I spelled. Spelled it very rare, but I misspelled it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, B and N are next to each other on the keyboard. So I always have. Whenever I look at your clips, I gotta look at my keyboard. Okay. B and okay.

[Adam Curry]

President Trump. Typing is deteriorated.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, why bother? Why bother? Just do.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, you might just look. This banger game is fisted, you know. President Trump and Secretary of State Marco Rubio today making their most detailed case yet on why they're confident that US strikes have obliterated Iran's nuclear.

[John C. Dvorak]

Obliterated.

[Adam Curry]

It comes as NATO's leaders deliver Trump.

[John C. Dvorak]

A win by agreeing to boost their defense spending.

[Adam Curry]

Anthony's White House correspondent Iris Tao has more. It's been obliterated. Totally obliterated. Citing fresh intelligence, including confirmation by Israeli.

[John C. Dvorak]

Agents who went there.

[Adam Curry]

President Trump. Trump again makes clear that US strikes have successfully taken out Iran's clean nuclear sites, setting back its nuclear ambitions for decades. And now this incredible exercise of American strength has paved the way for peace. Speaking at a press conference at NATO, the President refutes a leaked intelligence report that claimed with low confidence that the attack failed some of the key components of Iran's nuclear program. Trump calls the report incurred complete and slams the media for driving such narratives. Those pilots flew at great risk. Cnn, New York Times are all bad.

[John C. Dvorak]

Like trying to go and get me.

[Adam Curry]

You're hurting those people.

[John C. Dvorak]

They were devastated.

[Adam Curry]

On exactly why the mission is deemed a success. President Trump says the US hit the targets with a dozen 30,000 pound bunker buster bombs before Iran had a chance to move its enriched uranium. We think we hit them so hard and so fast it didn't get to move. Secretary of State Marco Rubio reveals that Iran's facility to convert nuclear fuel into the form needed for nuclear weapons was destroyed. Is where it used to be.

[John C. Dvorak]

On the map, you can't even find.

[Adam Curry]

Where it used to be because the Whole thing is just blackened out.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's gone.

[Adam Curry]

Iran itself on Wednesday for the first time admitted that its nuclear sites were badly damaged.

[John C. Dvorak]

But before you get into hegseth, I just want to play this one quick analysis clip from cnbc. It's David Albright, no relation to Madeleine and he is the president of ISIS of all unfair, unfortunate acronyms for a company.

[Adam Curry]

That's a bad one. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Institute for Science and International Security. And he. This was a military industrial complex demo. Okay. Not as in demolition, but demonstration show. Because this thing was if true, which I'm just going to believe this really was quite amazing what they did and the precision of this. He explains what do you think they.

[Adam Curry]

Were basing that on? That the, that the structures are still intact?

[John C. Dvorak]

The building. I think it's, I don't, I think.

[Adam Curry]

Think they were dependent on satellite imagery.

[John C. Dvorak]

And some communication intercepts and, and I.

[Adam Curry]

Don'T think they can tell. And also from the reporting, I don't know if they're talking about Fordow or a mountain complex at Sfahan nuclear site. I mean it's very murky. What we found at Fordow is we have building designs for Fordow from previous.

[John C. Dvorak]

Or other work we do and, and.

[Adam Curry]

We could geolocate what parts of the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Site were were being targeted.

[Adam Curry]

So there's a very important ventil that comes up from the bottom from the floor of the centrifuge plant all the way up to the surface.

[John C. Dvorak]

The three holes for the mops are right in that ventilation shaft area or ventilation system. So it's kind of a clean shot.

[Adam Curry]

All the way to the bottom. You're not going through a mountain per se.

[John C. Dvorak]

We also found that the other three.

[Adam Curry]

Were targeted at the end of a.

[John C. Dvorak]

Centrifuge of the centrifuge hall going through.

[Adam Curry]

An older structure that had been on the surface surface and then Iran had covered up back in many years ago. So we look good. We think that's a vulnerability in the mountain. And so with east, if these mops got through, what they're doing is if they explode, they're creating shock waves that run throughout the complex from two different directions. And so we wouldn't expect the roofs to collapse.

[John C. Dvorak]

We would just expect fire pressure shock waves that would destroy things in their path. And so if it's worked, it would be extremely destructive. So they lobbed these things down a 1 meter hole one after another all the way down to the bottom.

[Adam Curry]

That's what they claim they went down the ventilation shaft.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's if that's true.

[Adam Curry]

That's like that's 13,000ft.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's better than an iPhone. I mean, that's some technology right there. So.

[Adam Curry]

Well, these bombs aren't cheap.

[John C. Dvorak]

But I'm thinking that this leak that came out of the dia by the way, the dia. I love everyone who's intelligence. I'm sure everybody's a patriot. But the Defense Intelligence Agency, these are the people that leak all these crazy stories. The grid's gonna go down. Chinese men of fighting age are gonna form an army.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. All the stuff you get to hear in Fredericksburg, I hear none of it here.

[John C. Dvorak]

John F. Kennedy Jr. Is still alive.

[Adam Curry]

There's of lot a life.

[John C. Dvorak]

Fauci's mother. Teresa is Fauci's mom and she's a dude. I mean, I've heard it all. Jennifer Maniston, all the Victoria's secrets. I mean, that's not. But it comes from the same. The same group.

[Adam Curry]

I'm almost convinced that this whole leak was a fake.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, it could have been a fake. From a competing company saying, well, it could have been.

[Adam Curry]

Well, there's that. It also could have been just something to get the media all riled up. That so Trump can moan and groan.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, that's. That would be. They do psyops dia. They do the psyops and they're out of control.

[Adam Curry]

I think so too.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

I have no question about it. This is something's very fishy about this whole leaked low confidence memo and the girl who picked it up. Yeah, Bertrand woman.

[John C. Dvorak]

This was good. You had this in the newsletter?

[Adam Curry]

I had a newsletter. She's a two time Emmy award winner. She's young. She's probably working for some somehow, some somewhere. She was blamed for being the first to promote the 54 intelligence agents think that the Biden laptops bull crap. And she also did. She was caught up in the something before that, the dossier. She was all in on that. Something about her is kind of fishy too, but she's not an idiot, so there's a lot going on there. So one of the things I caught this morning is heg set press conference. And I only wanted to play a little bit of it because I'm noticing something very interesting, which is that Hegseth who a lot of people think is being run and I don't. I've never heard clips from this guy. I got to dig some clips up. This guy, General Carrillo.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, this is a new guy.

[Adam Curry]

Carrillo's a guy. We don't hear about him. But everybody who knows anything says that Carrillo's Running Hegseth, which we. We knew that when Hegseth got in, he's going to have to have somebody.

[John C. Dvorak]

That actually run the show.

[Adam Curry]

Somebody has to do it. And Hexeth was going to be a front guy. But Hexeth, I think even though Trump is praising him a lot, trying to get him back on track, and he does, I don't think he's doing a bad job per se, as a job, but as a front guy, I think he's starting to fail because they brought him in. He's a Fox guy. He's got the military background. He's a little bit of. Of a grunt, but he's got the military background to do. To do this. And he's got the good looks and he. But. But all that's falling by the wayside because I believe there's a milieu influencer within the White House that is affecting Hegseth. Hegseth has picked up a sibilance in his voice, which is bordering on.

[John C. Dvorak]

Like that.

[Adam Curry]

No, no, it's Mark. It's the sibilance. Sibilance can go that way. Sibilance. Sibilance can go toward a Sylvester, the cat sound where he talks like this. It's almost going a little bit like that. And sibilants can go into the lisp. The lisp, the lisp, the lisp. So sibilants. And in fact, in the audio world, there's a thing called a de Esser you can buy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, I've got it in my board.

[Adam Curry]

Even it takes sibilance out because sometimes the audio equipment will create it, but I don't think so in this case. This is Hegseth. You're going to have just a short clip. You're going to have to listen for it. It's heading toward a lisp, and I'm trying to figure out who it's. I figured out who it sounds like. I figured out who the alpha male is in the room that's creating this. He's the guy that's caused Hexet to do two things. One, he's developing a lisp, and he's talking fast like a maniac. He's not like a professional TV guy that he once was first term. And here in his second term, we've accelerated that. 32 NATO countries committed to spending 5% of their GDP on defense, on actually investing in the NATO alliance. NATO alliance. NATO alliance. So I hope with all the ink spilled, all of your outlets find the time to properly recognize this historic change in continental security that other presidents tried to do. Do other presidents talked about. President Trump accomplished it. It's a huge deal. You see, we're here this morning because in hunting for scandals all the time, in trying to find wedges and spin stories, this press corps and the press corps miss historic moments. You miss historic moments like 5% at NATO, which when you hear I was in the closed door briefing, I wish there be could. Could have been cameras in there. When you heard the prime ministers and presidents of other countries, to a man and to a woman looking at President Trump and saying this never could have happened, never would have happened, seemed impossible five years ago, two years ago, eight years ago. But here we are because of your leadership. If you asked them the question, I bet they'd say the same thing. But searching for scandals. You miss historic moments like recruiting at the Pentagon, historic levels in the army, the Air Force and the Navy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Navy, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Maybe there'll be a little mention here or there. But because it was under President Trump's leadership, Because it was. Because. Because Americans are responding to him as commander in chief, the press corps doesn't want to write about him.

[John C. Dvorak]

Ah, I got it. I know who's influencing him. This Lindsey Graham.

[Adam Curry]

No.

[John C. Dvorak]

How about J.D. vance? I get a bit of a J.D. vance vibe from him.

[Adam Curry]

No, this is Rubio.

[John C. Dvorak]

Of course it is. Ah, boom. Yeah, Nailed it. Rubio. Totally Rubio.

[Adam Curry]

It sounds like Rubio. He's getting Rubio's cadence. Rubio is a funny guy, but when he's serious, he's a fast talker, he's mean.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

He has a sibilance.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

He's borderline lisping. And this guy's borderline lisping. Rubio is the alpha male in the room of these advisors.

[John C. Dvorak]

Who would have thought that. That dancer.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, the dancer.

[John C. Dvorak]

The dancer. The Prancer and dancer.

[Adam Curry]

Who would have thought the dancer. Prancer is now the guy that's and. And Hex and Rubio. You can see the two guys probably do like each other. So they're hanging around a lot. There were the two guys that went with Trump to NATO. They were behind him. And so those two guys are talking a lot and Rubio is. Rubio is creating the milieu.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

This reminds me of during the Obama administration, had all those women that sounded exactly the same. Lisa Monaco sounding like Rubio. I'm, you know, these milus are. Which of course I'm a nut about them because I found myself when I was at the air pollution district.

[John C. Dvorak]

There we go.

[Adam Curry]

So I was working with a lot of cops and especially in the early days when they had these orange and white cars that were cop cars run with cops that worked there and they would pull people over for tailpipe emissions. This ended after about six years, but they were doing it for a while and there was a lot. So the place was just filthy with cops for at least a decade. When I walked into a bar, people would come up to me and say, you're a cop, right?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, because you would be talking like one.

[Adam Curry]

No, it wasn't. No, I never said anything. I just sat down. It was, it was. It was a. It was a vibe or something. I never could figure out what it was specifically.

[John C. Dvorak]

I thought you were a narc. I don't know.

[Adam Curry]

So I never could figure out specifically what it was. What every. I'm telling you, which is your copy cop, right? No.

[John C. Dvorak]

Of all the people. John C. Devorah, you're a cop, right.

[Adam Curry]

And so. And it lasted for about a decade. It started probably in the 70s. It went on for a while and then it stopped. It stopped all of a sudden and it just stopped. I could never figure out nothing changed.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, you didn't.

[Adam Curry]

There's something powerful about me use and it helps people identify. That's why I think a lot of gay people can identify gay people. Besides the fact, you know, there's a lot of lesbians can identify lesbians. One of the keys to lesbians, they put their hand. I'm told this if they put.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wait, wait. Pay attention, everybody. Guys, pay attention. Here comes John's Lesbian Detection.

[Adam Curry]

One tip. This only one single noticeable tip. If they put their. If a woman as she's at a table and she puts her hands palm down, both palms down on. On the table when she's talking, she's a lesbian. I have no idea why that is, but it's an indicator.

[John C. Dvorak]

So.

[Adam Curry]

So I've. I'm always glued into this because what you can do, if you can figure out what elements were in that are in the middle you. That are creating this.

[John C. Dvorak]

That was the tip of the day. You blew it. That was the total tip of the day.

[Adam Curry]

And so. And I want to remind people of the sparrow study that were run in Berkeley and this was in the 50s, I think, or maybe the 60s. But they found that sparrows, flocks of sparrows picked up a chirp that was particular to the flock and they had a cadence to the way they chatted with each other or chirped with each other. And if you took one of those sparrows and put them in another flock, they'd be rousted they get them out. They weren't part of that milieu. And milieus are very important to understand. Understand. And I think that Rubio is the guy that is creating the model for that milieu, and it's ruining Hegseth. It's changing his style.

[John C. Dvorak]

Very interesting. Good observation. I have Rubio in a clip with Trump. We want to hear it, and then we can compare.

[Adam Curry]

Sure.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is the NATO presser. This is about Iran coming in to have a little chat. Are you interested in restarting negotiations with Iran? And if some, so have they. So our people.

[Adam Curry]

Marco could answer. But our people are not.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm not.

[Adam Curry]

The way I look at it, they fought, the war's done. And, you know, I could get a statement that they're not going to go nuclear. We're probably going to ask for that, but they're not going to be doing it.

[John C. Dvorak]

But they're not going to be doing it anyway. They've had it. They've had it now.

[Adam Curry]

Maybe someday in the future we'll want that. But I've asked Marco, do you want to draw. I just asked him the question as we were walking on the stage. You want to draw up a little agreement for them to sign? Because I think we can get him to sign it. I don't think it's necessary. Marco, do you want to talk about that, please?

[John C. Dvorak]

Mr. President, I think you. President Trump has shown a willingness to meet and talk to anybody in the world who's interested in peace. I don't know of any president that's been as willing as he has to meet with anyone and talk about peace. We'd love to have peaceful relations with any country in the world. And so obviously, that will depend on Iran's willingness not just to engage in peace, but to negotiate directly with the United States, not through some third country or fourth country process. But I know of no president probably in our modern history that's sought peace more than President Trump has. I think you're spot on. And Marco was calm in this one, but that's that. Yeah, I think it's totally. Do you mind if I just play these. These two from the same presser? Because it was quite remarkable, some things that he said that I don't think anyone really picked up on. And the first one is about. Hold on a second. This is. Oh, this is. Is this about the report? Yeah, I think this is about. What is this? Let me check.

[Adam Curry]

I think they're very much finished, I think.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah. This is about what Iran does next.

[Adam Curry]

I think they're very Much finished. I think Israel is going to get back to, to doing what they do. And I think that Iran's going to.

[John C. Dvorak]

Get back, you know, Iran has a.

[Adam Curry]

Huge advantage of great oil and they can do things. I don't see them getting back involved in the nuclear business anymore.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think they've had it.

[Adam Curry]

They've been at it for 20 years and I don't see that happening either. Now if it does, we're always there. It won't be me, it'll be somebody.

[John C. Dvorak]

Else, but we're there. We'll have to do something about it. And here is this to me was the whole, this is a big, big deal here, what he says. Thank you so much, Mr. President.

[Adam Curry]

Yesterday you said China can now continue to purchase oil from Iran. Are you giving up on your maximum pressure campaign because there's sanctions right now? With who on Iran?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, look, they just had a war.

[Adam Curry]

The war was fought, they fought it bravely. I'm not giving up.

[John C. Dvorak]

They're in the oil business. I mean, I could stop it if I wanted.

[Adam Curry]

I could sell China the oil myself. I don't want to do that. They're going to need money to put that country back into shape.

[John C. Dvorak]

We want to see that happen.

[Adam Curry]

No, if they're going to sell oil.

[John C. Dvorak]

They'Re going to sell oil. We're not taking over the oil.

[Adam Curry]

We could have, you know, I used to say with Iraq, keep the oil. I could say it here too.

[John C. Dvorak]

We could have kept the oil.

[Adam Curry]

Now China is going to want to buy oil. They can buy it from us, they can buy it from other people. But you're going to have to put.

[John C. Dvorak]

That country back into shape.

[Adam Curry]

It needs, desperately needs money.

[John C. Dvorak]

The rebelization phase is over. Now we move in with the money.

[Adam Curry]

This is exactly Halliburton in there. Maybe they can do some contracting. Yes, this is, we do some building and let's do some trading.

[John C. Dvorak]

Exactly.

[Adam Curry]

It's like we need to, we need some Persian rugs in this country.

[John C. Dvorak]

And.

[Adam Curry]

They make terrific rugs. Let me, here's another. We have a Persian rug up in Washington.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm gonna have to get me one.

[Adam Curry]

Of these big ones. The biggest one we have is a monster machine made. Not a hand sewn Persian rug from Iran. A machine made rug. It's unbelievable. They don't need to do the hand. They have the textile industry there that can make these beautiful monster rugs. And since they're machine made, they're a lot cheaper than a hand knotted rug. Those things are not cheap even though they're not overpriced. It's like a bonanza. I want some of these rugs.

[John C. Dvorak]

I want a rug now, too. These are great rugs. Well, right on cue. I thought this was quite interesting. The crown prince of Iran, Reza Pahlavi, who lives in. Who lives in Washington, D.C. d.C. Comes out with a message. Now, I know a lot of Iranians, or as we say in California.

[Adam Curry]

Is he in D.C. or New York?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, D.C. he's in D.C. i looked it up. He lives in D.C. we have a lot of Persians, as they call themselves in America. Very successful business people. Los Angeles, California in particular. Lots of Iranians.

[Adam Curry]

I'm sorry, Persians.

[John C. Dvorak]

And they all left Iran because. Well, the history lesson is what the crown prince gave gives us here. The Middle east, the cradle of civilization.

[Adam Curry]

Is rich with stories of great kings, prophets and philosophers. From Cyrus to Moses to Ibn Khaldun, our nations have given the world some of its greatest visionaries. Leaders like Anwar Sadat, King Hussein, Menachem Begin, King Faisal, and my father, too.

[John C. Dvorak]

Took up the mantle of seeking peace for our people.

[Adam Curry]

But for 45 years, too many of.

[John C. Dvorak]

Us have been forced to live in fear.

[Adam Curry]

Fear of the next terrorist attack, fear of war, fear of economic instability, fear of nuclear blackmail. That's because 45 years ago, my country was taken hostage by a radical regime that seeks not only to keep my people in chains but to export its.

[John C. Dvorak]

Revolution to your countries and your people.

[Adam Curry]

The regime in Tehran is responsible. Responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocents. Iranians, Arabs and Israelis, Christians, Muslims and Jews. It facilitated the October 7th attack. It fueled sectarian conflicts in Syria, Iraq, Lebanon and Yemen. It is trying to unseat the Hashemite kingdom and delegitimize the custodians of the two holy mosques. It uses palaces, Palestinians, as human shields. And now it has brought our cradle of civilization to the cusp of regional war.

[John C. Dvorak]

So if you're interested, I'll play the second half of this where he basically says he's ready for regime change. And he's ready. And all the Persians in America are ready to go back and reclaim their country.

[Adam Curry]

I will say this. So just before 79, the fall of the Shah, who had a secret police and nobody liked him.

[John C. Dvorak]

No.

[Adam Curry]

No matter what his son thinks. And in the Bay Area, in particular, Berkeley, there was. It was. And Cal was filled with Persian students. And everybody wanted to get all these. The same Persians that he's talking about in the United States that wanted to. They're the ones that wanted regime change to get rid of the Shah. And they put in this, the moolahs.

[John C. Dvorak]

And we did that at the behest of them. Them.

[Adam Curry]

So, yes. And so it's like, okay, you can say what you want. I think it's about time that American Persians stick around and run their shops and businesses and corporations and let the Persians in Persia do what they do instead of meddling. It was the meddling in the first place that got rid of his dad. And now it's, you know, now they're going to, they're going to just screw it up. Americans screw stuff up. Stay out.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, isn't that kind of what Trump is saying is like.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, Trump's been saying it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, you guys do it yourself. We don't want to do it. You want to sell your oil, sell your oil. Just don't get into bed with China. We'll lend you the money. We'll send our guys in. We got great construction. I got a construction companies. It's all good.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, right. I know how to build construction, by the way. So, yeah, I want to hear the second half of that. And so today I come to you with a message. This is not the Iranian people people's war. It is Ali Khamenei and his regime's war. The tyrants in Tehran couches his warmongering.

[John C. Dvorak]

In Iranian nationalism, but he does not speak for our nation. The crimes his regime has committed against you, our neighbors, are an affront to Iranians and our values. For us Iranians, pride in our nation and love of our country do not.

[Adam Curry]

Come at the price of hatred, antagonism or chauvinism. My comparisons have shown time and time.

[John C. Dvorak]

Again that they do not want Iran's.

[Adam Curry]

Wealth spent on fueling wars, fostering instability or funding terrorism.

[John C. Dvorak]

Iranians are not your enemy. It is the Islamic Republic that is our common enemy.

[Adam Curry]

The enemy of all peace seeking people in our regions, whatever nation they come from, or whatever deliver faith they practice. So I say to you, our friends across the Middle east, our region deserves so much better.

[John C. Dvorak]

But in order to succeed, first, this.

[Adam Curry]

Regime that has held us hostage for nearly half a century must go. The Middle east is all too familiar with turmoil and upheaval. So I know you might fear change will bring chaos. But fear not. We will not allow a power vacuum to follow the collapse of this regime. There is a vast coalition of patriotic Iranians at home and abroad ready to step in to serve our nation and make peace with our region. I have told my compatriots that I will do my duty. I will step forward at their call.

[John C. Dvorak]

To oversee this peaceful transition to democracy.

[Adam Curry]

And Iran's return to the community of nations. Peace is neither a relic of history.

[John C. Dvorak]

Nor a distant dream. It is a promise we owe to ourselves and our children. And together we can make it a reality. And I'll say that, you know, 1979. Absolutely. Our state Department was stacked with and done so on purpose, as we've heard, with American Jews, because they had a bone to pick and they were like, oh, these guys, they hate all those guys. So we'll just let them run the show. There's no doubt about that. But it's always been America, and I'm glad Rubio's in there. At least he brings a different perspective. Can't. Can't affuse it, can't accuse him of being a Zionist.

[Adam Curry]

Rubio? Yeah, I like Rubio.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, I didn't think much of his. I kind of always kind of liked the guy in some odd way, even though he's a kind of a fruity dancer.

[John C. Dvorak]

I've never seen him dance, but I'd like to.

[Adam Curry]

I have.

[John C. Dvorak]

You. You have?

[Adam Curry]

Well, he's like, there's clips and there's. I mean, they're gone now, but there's clips of him. But there's more clips of Zelensky, who is worse. He might as well just been a complete flamer.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, flamer. Right on, right on. And here's. Here's the most interesting part. Is the markets. Good to have you with us.

[Adam Curry]

You got. Global oil prices have tumbled for a second day amid a fragile ceasefire between Iran. And in the space of 36 hours or so, oil prices have tumbled by more than 10%. We haven't seen such a steep decline since early April. The international benchmark Brent has come down below $68 a barrel and the WTI.

[John C. Dvorak]

Below $65 a barrel.

[Adam Curry]

@ the start of the week, there was a lot of concern about a potential supply shock should Iran decide to block the Strait of Hormuz. The that concern now appears to be gone as a ceasefire remains in place.

[John C. Dvorak]

Despite earlier violations.

[Adam Curry]

President Trump's social media comment that China could continue buying Iranian oil further fuelled the sell off. Global stock markets, on the other hand, rallied. Wall Street's three main indexes. All ended sharply higher, with the Dow.

[John C. Dvorak]

Jones gaining around 530 points and the.

[Adam Curry]

S&P 500 approaching its record high close reached back in February.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, how about that? Oil goes down. It's amazing.

[Adam Curry]

How about you're complaining about Horowitz? No, I'm, I'm on the last show.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hey, he could have made it on the way up and on the way down. Come on.

[Adam Curry]

Doing that for a living long. That's.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's literally what he does for a living.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I know, but you can't be that tight. If you were that good, I'd be. Geez, you wouldn't be talking to me.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. You've almost got to wonder if the fragile ceasefire, if that isn't a big oil talking point. Oh, let's. Let's make it fragile. Let's make it sound like it's risky. We don't want. The oil is going down. We can't have this. We can't go below. Below 65. That's a problem.

[Adam Curry]

We'd get down to 50 something.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, the oil baron will still be okay because he's hedged, but most companies will have a problem. Certainly the.

[Adam Curry]

No, I don't think so.

[John C. Dvorak]

He can make money at 40 independents. He can, but he says most are too leveraged. They can't.

[Adam Curry]

Well, they shouldn't be.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, okay, but it's Texas gold, baby. You know, that's just how they've been playing it. So the Hegseth thing that, of course, because President Trump called out CNN specifically as scum.

[Adam Curry]

And the New York Times.

[John C. Dvorak]

The New York Times and msn, ndc, msdnc. And he's really just losing his ever loving mind over that. So of course, when it's about you, you've got to report about you. At the start of that news conference.

[Adam Curry]

The US Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth lashed out at the news media, condemning outlets including cnn, for reports that suggest the US strikes on Iran weren't as effective as the Trump administration was initially saying. Listen to this. Because you cheer against Trump so hard, it's like in your DNA and in your blood, you cheer against Trump.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, wait a minute. I missed a great opportunity. It's in your DNA. Wait, where is it? Oh, man, I gotta find that clip.

[Adam Curry]

Because you want him not to be Charlie Roche so bad, you have to cheer against the efficacy of these strikes. Tell me about the sexuality. It's in your DNA.

[John C. Dvorak]

At the start of that news conference.

[Adam Curry]

The US Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth lashed out at the news media, condemning outlets including cnn, for reports that suggest the US strikes on Iran weren't as effective as the Trump administration was initially saying. Listen to this. Because you cheer against Trump so hard, it's like in your DNA and in your blood to cheer against Trump. Yeah, because you want him not to be successful so bad, you have to cheer against the efficacy of These strikes, you have to hope maybe they weren't effective. Maybe the way the Trump administration has represented them isn't true. So let's take half truths, spun information, leaked information, leaked information and then spin it, spin it, spin it in every way we can. Try to cause doubt and manipulate the mind, the public mind over whether or not our brave pilots were successful. Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

And then when you're talking about yourself because your own stations in the news bring in Brian Seltzer water. All right.

[Adam Curry]

Joining us now to discuss is CNN's chief media analyst Brian Stelter. Brian, thanks for joining us.

[John C. Dvorak]

We should just Excess attacks are false.

[Adam Curry]

CNN has reported that this was a preliminary assessment.

[John C. Dvorak]

Why is he now trying to say otherwise? Right.

[Adam Curry]

Internals are not the main story here. The main story is what you just covered, the impact of the US Strikes on Iran. The public still has a lot that wants to know know about the impact of the strikes. But the administration is picking a fight with the press and casting legitimate journalism as unpatriotic. Right now the Trump administration is not actually challenging the facts of what CNN reported. Instead it's objecting to the existence of reporting. The Trump administration just wants everyone to repeat Trump's words instead of following up.

[John C. Dvorak]

Instead of asking questions because where are.

[Adam Curry]

The media and exit was was very emotional, almost spitting mad about this at the press conference this morning, very clearly trying to perform for the president and.

[John C. Dvorak]

We know that is audience of one.

[Adam Curry]

Partly why the president picked Hegseth from Fox in order to run the Defense Department. That kind of performance is what Trump was looking for.

[John C. Dvorak]

He had looking for a Fox News performance. Okay, Brian.

[Adam Curry]

But it seems to me Wolf, Trump is far from the first politician to.

[John C. Dvorak]

Use the military as a shield against fair minded scrutiny.

[Adam Curry]

You know, Trump is saying that the B2 pilots were devastated by this news coverage but the reporting by CNN that was matched by the New York Times and other outlets was not the last.

[John C. Dvorak]

Word on the matter.

[Adam Curry]

It was really just the first word. There's so much more reporting to do on this topic. This, this is a very complex matter. Even though Trump tried to make it sound simple on Saturday night, it's really.

[John C. Dvorak]

Important to note what CNN did not report.

[Adam Curry]

CNN did not report that this mission was a failure. Far from it. It may have turned out to be a tremendous success. We just don't know all the facts yet and neither does the U.S. government. So this performance from headset today, it's part of a pattern of attacking the press, trying to claim it's unpatriotic to ask these questions. But I Think the history going back.

[John C. Dvorak]

To Vietnam and more recently the Iraq.

[Adam Curry]

War shows that it is quite patriotic.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow, you mean when you were in front of the blue screen putting on helmets and pretending like, like you were under attack? That was super patriotic, bro, to ask.

[Adam Curry]

These questions and hold the government to account. Yeah. We were simply reporting what was leaked to CNN by a U.S. official from that initial DIA.

[John C. Dvorak]

Defense Intelligence Agency report. And we reported it in context. Yeah, okay. Yeah, from the dia. Last one. You write in a new article for.

[Adam Curry]

Cnn, Brian, that questioning power is certainly patriotic.

[John C. Dvorak]

Explain for our viewers why it's necessary.

[Adam Curry]

For the news media to report on.

[John C. Dvorak]

These assessments, even if they are preliminary.

[Adam Curry]

Because some of the biggest embarrassments for the American media Of the last 50, 60 years have been times where the questions were not asked.

[John C. Dvorak]

You mean like when you called Trump Hitler and all that? That wasn't embarrassingly when people might have.

[Adam Curry]

Neutered themselves, might have quieted themselves.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, like the Russia collusion stuff?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, because there was a rally around the flag effect. The best example of the run up to the Iraq war in 2003. Now, this set of circumstances is very different. The US airstrikes on Iran were courageous. The actions by the pilots were courageous. Gosh, I would love to hear from the pilots directly. By the way. There's a lot more reporting to do. It seems that Trump doesn't want that reporting to happen and he's calling for.

[John C. Dvorak]

Firings and those sorts of things.

[Adam Curry]

Both CNN and the New York Times have strongly defended the reporting because it has not actually been challenged. The actual details have not been challenged. But, you know, as you've said on this program, well, there's a lot more to learn about this subject. And that's what the public wants from the press, the public express, the press to do that work dispassionately, neutrally, not looking for an outcome, but trying to find out what actually happened inside Iran.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow. You deserve a pool of her for that. That was great. Brian, you are so awesome.

[Adam Curry]

What did he even say?

[John C. Dvorak]

What?

[Adam Curry]

Can you summarize what he said?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, Trump, Bad Trump is mean. He's a meanie. He's a meanie. Oh, goodness. Goodness. You got anything else on this? Because I think we've. We've kind of beat this horse.

[Adam Curry]

I think we're spent on this topic.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I think so, too. So too.

[Adam Curry]

There's this kind of an offshoot. We have the Ma. The Mom Davi thing that happened in New York City, which I think is super important.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now this to me seems like, first of all, it's being played as if he's already the mayor. This is a a odds are, odds are he'll be mayor.

[Adam Curry]

In fact, I had the odds from BET online BET Online ag for a couple shows ago that said he was going to win the primary.

[John C. Dvorak]

But do you think this is truly idiots who voted for him? Like this is the guy. I mean I even heard Dave Weiner on his podcast say no, no, we've got to hold our nose and vote for Cuomo. Which Cuomo. Which I was I was surprised that.

[Adam Curry]

Dave Weiner would say Cuomo is hardly astute.

[John C. Dvorak]

He thinks he is.

[Adam Curry]

And it was the women of New York City that got this guy in. I It's a good I have three clips. Okay, I have his acceptance speech, but I want to play the Start with the rundown. This is the NYC Mayor Primary from NTD and Zoran Mam Danny the 33 year old new York State lawmaker and.

[John C. Dvorak]

Self described Democratic Socialist declared victory in.

[Adam Curry]

New York City's Democratic mayoral primary that says former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo.

[John C. Dvorak]

Considered seats It's a surprising upset over former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, who had been seeking a political comeback four years after resigning amid sexual harassment allegations. But in brief remarks to supporters, the.

[Adam Curry]

67 year old conceded the race to.

[John C. Dvorak]

Mamdani and said he had called to congratulate him. Tonight is his night, he said. Mamdani, a self described Democratic socialist, holds.

[Adam Curry]

A state assembly seat in New York's.

[John C. Dvorak]

Queensborough and entered the mayoral race as.

[Adam Curry]

A virtual unknown, according to the city's elections board.

[John C. Dvorak]

He was ahead of Cuomo 43.5 to 36.4%, with nearly 95% of ballot scanners reporting. Nine other Democratic candidates trailed far behind, but Mamdani's lead in Tuesday's preliminary results appeared too large for Cuomo or any.

[Adam Curry]

Other candidate to overcome.

[John C. Dvorak]

The differences between the two mayoral candidates were stark. Cuomo is a moderate backed by the establishment who served a decade as governor, while Mamdani is a progressive newcomer who promises a break with the past.

[Adam Curry]

In the lead up to Tuesday's vote.

[John C. Dvorak]

He garnered endorsements from prominent progressives like Senator Bernie Sanders and Representative Alexandria Ocasio Cortez.

[Adam Curry]

Mamdani will likely be the favorite in November's general election in a city where Democrats dominate.

[John C. Dvorak]

The current mayor, Democrat Eric Eric Adams.

[Adam Curry]

Will also appear on the November ballot as an independent.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow, that's just, that's, you know, because I was listening to Tina talk about it because she's followed that a little closer than I have, she said it's because he just offered all this free stuff. Free stuff. And everyone and all the kids like, oh yeah, free stuff. Let's get some free stuff. Do you think that's.

[Adam Curry]

Well, here's Jesse. I have a rundown of some of the, for some of the free stuff and some of the changes he wants to make. Make from Jesse. All people. Jesse Waters does one of the best rundowns of this whole thing. This is only part of a longer clip, but it's, it's pretty, it's condensed. It's good. Other factions want a full jailbreak.

[John C. Dvorak]

New York City Democrats just nominated a communist.

[Adam Curry]

And the commie shatters. Zoran Mamdani would be the first Muslim mayor of New York. Zoran's board in Uganda.

[John C. Dvorak]

Raised in South Africa and he only.

[Adam Curry]

Came here seven years ago. The blacks and Hispanics, don't blame them. They voted for Cuomo. Zoran won. Whites, wealthy whites. They voted for a 33 year old.

[John C. Dvorak]

Muslim immigrant who, you can see his.

[Adam Curry]

Nipples in this music video. He campaigned on turning New York into San Francisco, defunding the police, emptying prisons, legalizing property, prostitution, city run grocery stores, free transportation, free injection sites. And he says if Netanyahu comes to.

[John C. Dvorak]

The un, he's going to have him arrested.

[Adam Curry]

Trump can't believe Democrats nominated someone crazier than Crockett. Quote, it's finally happened. The Democrats have crossed the line. Zoran Mamdani is 100% communist lunatic. He looks terrible, his voice is grating.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's not, not very smart. Wait a minute. That I don't understand. We had a clip of the mayoral candidates all talking about with what was your fir? What's your first trip gonna be? Then all of them are like, oh, Israel, Israel, Israel, Israel. Because of course the Jews run New York, don't they? How does this happen?

[Adam Curry]

Well, they were in that, in that same Water Daughters show. They showed the campaign headquarters when they made the announcement that Cuomo drop conceded.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And the audience was all women. And they were all those same women that you see on Tick Tock and they all went nuts.

[John C. Dvorak]

They love him. Exactly what they want. Oh, that's great. I was reading, I was reading. What's the this? Luxury real estate brokers say wealthy New Yorkers are already looking to flee.

[Adam Curry]

And Mondavi has already said that he was going to put in an exit tax for anyone who tries to leave the city.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow. You will pay taxes.

[Adam Curry]

I don't know how you can, I don't know how you can enforce that. But anyone who wants to move out of New York Exit tax. Not going to put up with it because he wants to be able to. He wants to gouge the rich. Here is his acceptance speech. Or at least the better, the better part of it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sorry.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, play sorry. We have won because New Yorkers have stood up for a city they can afford. A city where they can do more than just struggle. One where those who toil in the night can enjoy the fruits of their labor in the day.

[John C. Dvorak]

Comrade.

[Adam Curry]

Where hard work is repaid with a stable life. Where eight hours on the factory floor or behind the wheel of a cab is enough to pay the mortgage. It is enough to keep the lights on. It is enough to send your kid to school. Where rent stabilized apartments are actually stable. Where buses are fast and free. Where child care doesn't cost more than cuny. And where public safety keeps us truly safe. And it's where the mayor will use their power to reject Donald Trump's fascism.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hold on. Is he a they them?

[Adam Curry]

I. I'm really glad you caught that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is it, Is he a they them?

[Adam Curry]

It stuck out to me too. It sounds like he's a they them. That's exactly what he said. Public safety keeps us truly safe. And it's where the mayor will use their power to reject Donald Trump's. Fascinating. To stop mass ICE agents from deporting our neighbors and to govern our city as a model for the Democratic party.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, ok. Oh.

[Adam Curry]

This is great. By the way. I am really. This is going to be fun to watch.

[John C. Dvorak]

Fantastic.

[Adam Curry]

I mean he really honestly sincerely wants to get rid of half of the police and put in social workers because they know more about crime. Yeah, then please do.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's great.

[Adam Curry]

And he's going to legalize prostitution. New York City had a lot of prostitutes in the 80s if you.

[John C. Dvorak]

I remember I was there. I was there.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I was there too.

[John C. Dvorak]

You could drive down to the 8th Street I think was just everywhere.

[Adam Curry]

As far as I can tell it was. You can almost name the corners and whole entire streets and it was very much was crawling with horror and it was illegal.

[John C. Dvorak]

It was very much like Starsky and Hutch with Huggy Bear. You know you had pimps walking around and big furry coats and the girls with, with tight, very short mini, mini, mini shirts spinning their beads. Spinning their beads. Nailed it. Nailed it. Yes. Oh man. A boomer, boomer talk on display.

[Adam Curry]

So there you have it. So it's going to be legal. That would be very interesting because they're trying to do that in California. This guy Wieners, another super aggressive guy Weiner. His name's Wiener, Scott Wiener. And he's gay and super progressive and he wants to.

[John C. Dvorak]

Awesome.

[Adam Curry]

Lets everyone to be gay and prostitution illegal.

[John C. Dvorak]

Everyone be gay and awesome.

[Adam Curry]

Gay and awesome.

[John C. Dvorak]

Fabulous.

[Adam Curry]

And so gay and fabulous. And so this guy is. And it's more than just a few. The few items that listed. This guy is really off the rails when it comes to this. He's in the same district. District as Alexandria, Ocasio, Cortez. That's where they're born from, the Queens, and they have the same base. And she's like following him around, promoting him, I think. So the thinking is currently that he'll win the whole thing because Eric Adams is going to be demonized as a Trump guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, of course. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And the New Yorkers for some reason hate Trump and they don't know what to do about it. This guy guy's going to win.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow.

[Adam Curry]

I now my prediction, if you want to hear what I think is going to happen.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, of course we do.

[Adam Curry]

I think that because this guy's going to be worse than de Blasio, he's going to take the city. It's going to take about two years and the city is going to be close to ruination. They're going to have a recall and get him out. They're going to kick him out. That's my prediction. That he will actually not make a full term.

[John C. Dvorak]

What is.

[Adam Curry]

I could be wrong.

[John C. Dvorak]

What is the term? Is it four years or five years?

[Adam Curry]

I think it's four years from mayor. But I could be wrong. Let me. Let's look it up. You know, we do have the possibilities of. Consult the Book of Knowledge. How long?

[John C. Dvorak]

How long?

[Adam Curry]

Mayoral.

[John C. Dvorak]

Give New York City back to the Dutch. Okay.

[Adam Curry]

Trolls.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, trolls.

[Adam Curry]

That's pretty New Amsterdam.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Four years. Yep.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, it would certainly teach New Yorkers a lesson, you know, and you should have to wear a little. A little pink star to let everyone know you voted for him.

[Adam Curry]

Somebody pointed out, and I think it was just an anti. Interesting anti Muslim meme, which is that why do the two financial capitals of the world, assuming this guy gets in. And what's also funny is he's a Muslim who's all for trans and gay rights, which is kind of contradictory if you're a Muslim, it seems to me.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, but he was born in Uganda. He lived in, I don't know, South Africa. He code switches all the time into different accents. He's like a comedian. He used to be a rapper back. He's. He's a millennial. The hip Hopper. You can't be a rapper. He was a hip hopper.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, he can't be a rapper. Rapper is like 80s. He's 33. Oh, by the way, 33.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, he's 33. So the point is, is that you have a Muslim mayor in London and New York, the two financial capitals of the world. Very interesting phenomenon. I don't know if it means anything.

[John C. Dvorak]

I was talking to my buddy. I had lunch with him. He works for Databricks, which is a. Well, he says machine learning, but of course they're marketing it as AI. And he said that they just had their huge meeting in San Francisco. And he said it's so difficult because he has huge accounts. He sales. I can't get my customers to even want to come to San Francisco.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

And he says, so they had the Moscow center. And he said, they cleaned the city for us. They shoved all those homeless people off onto side streets. He says Moscone was pristine. The mayor comes up, of course, there was some deal. He says, that mayor is actually better than London breed. Of course, he says, the mayor came up on stage and said, we're really doing better. Really want your business. And I'm proud to announce we've just signed a deal with Databricks for five more years. And everyone goes. Everyone, like, boom.

[Adam Curry]

They hated it.

[John C. Dvorak]

They hate going there. Oh, by the way, he told me something else. You remember that. That podcast girl who was talking about Mosaic. Mosaic and Palantir used Mosaic to determine that there were. They could build nine dirty bombs. Remember that clip? Hold on a second, let me. It's worth playing.

[Adam Curry]

You have it. Play it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, hold on. Mosaic. Yeah. Rachel Bevins with. That's her podcast. Sarah Bills, the co founder of DD Geopolitics. Listen. And I was like, wow. So then I started really digging into it, and I realized that it's Palantir. It's the Mosaic software, which is a cover for Palantir, which is actually exactly like you said, mapping out these data.

[Adam Curry]

Points, stating that there's leaks or issues.

[John C. Dvorak]

At certain sites that have never been known to have nuclear issues or nuclear weapons or nuclear material at those sites. It's very interesting. And now you see kind of the IAEA saying, well, we didn't say that they had nuclear weapons. So the new Whitney Webb, as she branded herself, if you recall from the earlier. Oh, yeah, now I'm the new Whitney Webb.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, Whitney Web.

[John C. Dvorak]

So my. My. My boy says, yeah, no, we bought mosaic in July 2023. It's our company. It's not Palantir's company. So. But remember, she really started to dig into it and did some deep research.

[Adam Curry]

So she did the deep research and missed the elephant in the room completely.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, yes.

[Adam Curry]

That's another podcast.

[John C. Dvorak]

$800 million or something. Yeah, You. You kind of miss that when you're doing your deep dive. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. It's like when people said you need to do more on podcast. It's like shooting fish and a barrel, people. It's. This is. It's fun for me. I like it.

[Adam Curry]

I have a clip from the Todd cast.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Todd cast. The Chuck Todd cast. Oh, lovely. Well. Well, you want to set it up?

[Adam Curry]

I can't remember what it's about, but I put it in here for some reason.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let's listen.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, no, stop, stop. So I took it. He did a. He did a discussion with one of his buddies, and I decided to take the best. This is what he sounds like in the entire podcast. It's. I couldn't do the whole thing, but I did about 50 seconds worth.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sorry, was that you? That was me.

[Adam Curry]

Wow.

[John C. Dvorak]

I know. It's good, right?

[Adam Curry]

You get really good at it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Careful now, because you're doing a lot of ums now. You do.

[Adam Curry]

I know because I listen to the podcast. This is the milieu problem.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. You're going to start that.

[Adam Curry]

I brought up earlier because I listened to Chuck Todd cast and I end up saying a lot. But listen to him.

[John C. Dvorak]

Of the book Original Sin. And then after that. And I got a little. And so do the Emirates. That's just a fact.

[Adam Curry]

Look.

[John C. Dvorak]

So now look. And Daryl Peg say this week on there. But what.

[Adam Curry]

Nothing that.

[John C. Dvorak]

On that front. All right, I'm gonna. Look, I want to share something with you. We had to put our dog down. But. But anyway, I. I'm just sharing because it's. It's one of those things you kind of just.

[Adam Curry]

Just.

[John C. Dvorak]

I just want you to love my dog. Love your dog. And I will see you the next time we upload. Ah, poor Chuck Todd. Leave Todd alone.

[Adam Curry]

Here's what was interesting. In this particular podcast, he had Jake Tapper on, and he was talking about the book.

[John C. Dvorak]

About the book.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. But he had. He has a prepared part of the show where he does, like, an editorial. This is the model that you see on Fox where they. Laura starts off with the angle. And, you know, O'Reilly is the one who kind of invented the formula.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And so he starts off. And he's reading it, and he does have a slightly different intonation when he reads. And he reads about a 14 minute diatribe. Perfect. There's not one. Or ah. Or.

[John C. Dvorak]

He'S reading.

[Adam Curry]

He's reading. And he's a good reader. He's a really good reader. So when he's on Meet the Press, he's a tell. He can read the prompter and he sounds like he's talking. He's not quite. Because when you hear him really talking, he's saying I'm a lot. But he's a terrific reader. And it just goes away. It goes away. Gone. He's read, read, read. And then he goes back to ad libbing and it falls apart. It's a. It's a crappy podcast. Does he have very long.

[John C. Dvorak]

Does he have sponsors? Does he have a Gold as a sponsor?

[Adam Curry]

Not gold yet.

[John C. Dvorak]

What. What does he have?

[Adam Curry]

He has something. I. I can't remember what it was, to be honest about. This is how. By the way, always, you know, did you see that great ad where the guy shot himself out of a cannon and hit the moon? Yeah. Who was the ad for?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, right. It's interesting because we had dinner the other night and Laura Logan came by, the neighbor, and she was talking. Her podcast is actually, is. Is got gotten a lot better. She does it regularly. It's called Going Rogue with Laura Logan. Because I have no agenda. No, I'm just kidding with Laura. And, and it's. Right. She has a producer, which is what she always needed. She actually has Luke Coffey. That's one of the J. Sixers. The guy who got arrested for praying and holding the crutch above his head.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

And he got thrown in jail with 400 days or some crazy amount.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it's horrible.

[John C. Dvorak]

And so he's producing it. He's a. He's cool dude. He moved out here. He's producing it. So the podcast, pretty good. And she actually does. And so she has ads, you know, Patriot Mobile, that kind of stuff. And she does reasonably good reads. She's a pro. She knows how to do that. And so somehow the topic of value for value came up and I said, well, you know, it's like, I can teach how to do that. She says, yeah, but I have a real hard time asking people for money. It feels like begging. And like that is exactly the part that you have to. To get over. Because if you don't, eventually, you have to understand that in the advertising business online, there is no artificial scarcity. This is why banner ads and clicks and all that, it goes down to fractions of a penny. It's a race to the bottom because you don't have a 24 hour clock where there's only so much time to catch the eyeballs that are watching this linear medium.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it was a lot different when there were only three networks, period.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now it's like, well, how many, you know, the. How many ads do you want? We can. We could make as many ads as you want forever, because there is no scarcity. And before you know it, I told her, if you're not careful, you're going to be like Laura Loomer. Here's her podcast.

[Adam Curry]

Positive really is an amazing company. Not only do they have these emergency.

[John C. Dvorak]

Pet kits, but they also have these supplements here.

[Adam Curry]

And this is human grade.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay? This is human grade.

[Adam Curry]

And I just want to show you now I'm going to actually do this live on air so you can see for yourself. Okay? 100% human grade ingredients is what it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Says here on the package.

[Adam Curry]

And the ingredients are Alberta grass, finished bison liver, Alberta grass, finished bison heart, Alberta grass, finish kidney. These are the same type of nutrients that you can find in the beef organs that you purchase for your site.

[John C. Dvorak]

These are products that are so healthy.

[Adam Curry]

And natural that you could actually, actually eat it yourself.

[John C. Dvorak]

So you can see here, positive bison. It clearly says dog food Topper. And I'm gonna put this in my mouth right now so it tastes like meat. And maybe that is disgusting to you.

[Adam Curry]

But I'll show you right here, look.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is the bison product right here. It clearly says dog food Topper.

[Adam Curry]

You can see on camera.

[John C. Dvorak]

Actually tastes good. I'm not gonna lie. Do you know. You know how the meeting went?

[Adam Curry]

That's disgusting.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know how the.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, poor Laura Loomer.

[John C. Dvorak]

Laura, we have. We have a new campaign and we really want to show people that this is human grade food. So we'd love. We just love it if you could eat some on the air show.

[Adam Curry]

Eat the dog food.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm telling you, that's. That's exactly. That's exactly how the meeting went. And Tucker's going to be doing it, too.

[Adam Curry]

I promise you people all to be eating dog food.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's right. That's right.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. They're going to be buying gold and eating dog food.

[Adam Curry]

Well, yes, the. Your Lara, she. It. That is a problem if you don't know how to ask for money. I mean, churches do it. PBS doesn't. Pbs, which is a. Nobody calls them a, you know, a bunch of beggars.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, they're.

[Adam Curry]

Even though they're really well and they're very good At.

[John C. Dvorak]

I did tell her the caveat is you have to have an outstanding product. If you don't have a good product, it's pathetic.

[Adam Curry]

She has a good product. From what you say, yeah, it's pretty good. So she could do it, but she doesn't know how to do it. She doesn't feel comfortable doing. This is a real problem with, with people with pride. This is a pride issue. It's nothing to do with anything but pride. Oh, I have too much pride to ask for support. I have too much, much pride to go to my neighbor and say, could you. Can I borrow a cup of sugar? I have too much pride. I. I'm. I'm. I'm too much above it. This is bad.

[John C. Dvorak]

And with that, I'd like to say in the morning to you, the man who put the pride in begging for money. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, Mr. John C. Devorah.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Morning to you, Mr. Crane. Ship, sea BL on the ground feet and the air subs in the warren. Dames and knights out there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Good morning to the trolls in the troll.

[Adam Curry]

Let me catch you.

[John C. Dvorak]

2064 today on the troll countage. We'll take that for what it is. Hello, trolls. They are in.

[Adam Curry]

Today's Thursday, right?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. That's good, right? Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Average is 18.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. So we're doing good. Way to go, trolls. Bring it.

[Adam Curry]

Two in a row. Two in a row.

[John C. Dvorak]

Two in a row. And this is a big episode for us. This is episode 1776 that represents the. The signing of the Declaration. Is that Declaration of Independence?

[Adam Curry]

No. It is. This is the formation of the country.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Constitution.

[Adam Curry]

No, no, the Constitution came later.

[John C. Dvorak]

I should know better.

[Adam Curry]

We went through the. We had to sign the Declaration of Independence.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

And then we had the Articles of Confederation.

[John C. Dvorak]

Right.

[Adam Curry]

And that fell apart because nobody. Yeah, various reasons.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. There was all kinds of stuff because people wanted biblical stuff in there and that.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, there was all kinds of stu. They finally brought in the guy, the key guy that people always forget about. But the guy who really put it together was. Was John Madison. Little guy, short guy, four, I think.

[John C. Dvorak]

Petite male.

[Adam Curry]

Petite male. Who was the. Was the brainiac behind the U.S. constitution. I mean, there's other guys that contributed, but he was the main go to.

[John C. Dvorak]

They all pledged their fortunes, their sacred honor to the this country. They did. And well, they had to. There was. Had no way. Well, they had no. That's right. There was no way back. And I'm glad they did. And we're still here. And numerology has always been an important part. I tried to explain this at the dinner. Said you can't ask for like, you know, say give me $5. It doesn't work. You have no idea what people value stuff at. People will value you, your stuff. You don't know what, what, what they're. And $5 may be a lot.

[Adam Curry]

This is another concept that is lost on most people.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Who, who use the value for value model to, to, to support their podcast. They don't get that. And I. And it's impossible. No, they don't get it. They don't get it. You can explain. You tried. It's just almost impossible to explain. The only reason we even came to the conclusion is because what we started observing by having open ended donations at the very beginning of this podcast and people would throw in their favorite number.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. All kind boobs. Boobs008. That was always my favorite. They all laugh. Hahaha. But I think it's because they themselves don't want to part with their money. I think that's part of it. Like, oh no, I would never give money to a podcast. Well, maybe you're listening to the wrong podcast. I give money to Podcast Pass all the time if they ask for it. Remember from my wife, the retired from corporate life, C suite level communications officer. The number one reason people don't give money is because they weren't asked. You know, you can't just put a PayPal logo there and say you gotta ask.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, the old tip jar phenomenon.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, tips. Yes, I have a tip jar. Well, you're gonna get tip money then.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Nickel, dime, quarter.

[John C. Dvorak]

There was this other couple at this.

[Adam Curry]

Dinner, leftover changes in someone's pocket.

[John C. Dvorak]

There was another couple at the dinner, they're from California and, and I guess she has a podcast. Although it's just.

[Adam Curry]

Who doesn't?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it's just, it's a YouTube and.

[Adam Curry]

There'S a podcast meetup.

[John C. Dvorak]

YouTube and rumble. I said, do you have an RSS feed? No. I said, well that's the first thing you got to fix. You know, need an RSS feed. And that explained all that. He says, you know, and I do, I do okay with the donations. Well, tell me how you do it. Well, I never asked for it myself. Have someone else do it. I say, okay. And then here, come here. Came an amazing piece of advice from her, from her accountant who does the books for billionaires, I'm told. Don't say they're donations. Don't say that. My account accountant said, you're just A guy sitting with a box by the side of the road, then that's tax free if they give it to you. And I said, like, really?

[Adam Curry]

What?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I'm like, this was a. Was a certified public accountant that said this to you. Said that makes. No, no, no. As long as you don't call it a donation.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, please.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I'm like that.

[Adam Curry]

Why don't you just call the IRS up right now, ask him about it. Turn your in. Wow.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow, wow. It was amazing.

[Adam Curry]

Anyway, I mean, if you want to get around the. The taxes, you can become a. A nonprofit. You can become a charity. You can, you can set it up that way. It's a lot more. It's actually, there's two. Just for the people out there, podcasters that want to know this, because this was researched out by my son.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, we've done all the research on this.

[Adam Curry]

We've. We. Believe me. And so if you're.

[John C. Dvorak]

If not, evade taxes. John has checked it. Believe. Believe me.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. And the I and the. And the go. The key to success is don't.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Pay your taxes. Just. No, don't pay your taxes. No, pay your taxes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

But don't try to evade. And one of the interesting phenomenons that JC came with some research on this. If you become a nonprofit because you don't want to pay your taxes, you have to fill all that extra paperwork. The nonprofits, charities. Well, you can take it off your taxes if you. You donate to us. Get less money.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

As opposed to the honest working stiffs like the two of us. We take in.

[John C. Dvorak]

Pay taxes.

[Adam Curry]

We take in the money and we pay our taxes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, we do. We contribute back to society. Yes.

[Adam Curry]

So.

[John C. Dvorak]

And we don't get any. Any. Any benefits, really. Any. So the trolls are in the troll room. There's a two over 2,000 of them listening. That's very nice. And a lot of people are. Trolls have been quite active today. You know, quotes like, I guess the Jew money came in. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

All right. Well, actually, one guy did come in. Oh, really?

[John C. Dvorak]

We did get Jew money. Oh, that's.

[Adam Curry]

I think so. Yeah. There's some Jew money in here.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, it's just value for value. And that means that you can support us any way that you want to with your time, your talent, your treasure. In an indirect way. The modern podcast app guys are. Are supporting us. They, you know, they enable a lot of functionality that none of these other podcasts use. So if you use podverse or Podcast Guru or Fountain or Cast O Matic, all of these podcasts have all kinds of features. In particular, the one I like the most is that you get the bat signal and you can listen to the live stream. The fact that Apple hasn't done that blows my mind. It's like, what an obvious way to capture radio at this very moment is to just, boom, let everybody do their podcast live stream. You put it right in. It's like an episode. It shows up, you get a notification. I don't know what they're doing over there. Not invented here, probably.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I know they listen.

[Adam Curry]

That is the plague of Silicon Valley.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. And I know they listen. And I'm sure the people in the podcast group are really. I know a couple of them, they're really nice people, but they must be so frustrated hearing me go on about this. Anyway.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well, you do.

[John C. Dvorak]

We have contributors in the form of art, which is a big one for us because. Because people, you know, they're always looking forward to, oh, what's the art going to be? What are these guys going to choose? It's going to be something new. It looks great on the social media. And boy, we picked a doozy. Pick the Doozy for episode 70, 1775. Boomer benefits. This was by Joe Baba. I don't think Joe Baba has been chosen for anything yet, but this was the Trump eating a huge hot dog with Benjamin Netanyahu looking at him with mouth agape, pointing at him. And it got the. It. It had the desired effect. But a lot of people were saying, what's that in your mouth? Other people were like, hey, I, I can't wait to hear this episode. They might have been disappointed, but that's a good episode. It was. Yeah, no, a bit in, you know, like, oh, yeah, yeah, the Jews are doing it. Israel. Israel runs the country. Look at. Netanyahu was forcing Trump to deep throat a hot dog. Yeah, that was. We knew all of this would come up. And Tina, I'll say, she said, hey, hey, hey. What happened to the rule of no famous people on the art?

[Adam Curry]

I said, yes, the rules are meant to be broken.

[John C. Dvorak]

Exception proves the rule exactly right. We liked it. You know, there's nothing. It liked it over everything else.

[Adam Curry]

It superseded the. The fact that famous people rule. The humor of it and the, Just the, the, the composition. The humor.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

It went beyond. It usurped the rules. It pushed past.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

So you can push past if you, if you're good there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now, you were actually pushing pretty hard for a moment there on the pass key from a digital 2112, man. Because we talked about the pass keys. Remember that?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. But I thought I was pushing hardest for the Chinese thing down below. Oh, yeah, I did like the pass key. I'm looking at it now.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I did.

[Adam Curry]

Because I thought it was. I just thought it was artsy and I liked it.

[John C. Dvorak]

I got a lot of comment on the pass key.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I understand.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah, I saw. Yeah, people. Yeah, you were.

[John C. Dvorak]

I understand. I understand the pass key. And. And since we're just talking about it, allow me to share bonus content, everybody. Bonus. See, most people, they only give you bonus content if you pay extra. We just give it to you before you even. Thank you for paying extra. Does that sound right now? So pass keys is basically like a bitcoin secret key, and you store it on your phone or on your computer. So from a security standpoint. Yeah, makes a lot of sense because there's only one way you can get in, and that's with your passkey, which is stored. But if you lose your passkey, you're screwed. Or let's say you lose your phone or your computer blows up. And so I went to my favorite source for this, Dave Jones, who has been a sysadmin for 23 years. I trust him implicitly. He says passkeys are better on paper, better in every way, but in the real world, they only thwart credential stuffing. So it's no better than a password manager on its own, because there's no way for you to recover if you lose access to them. That's the Bitcoin key ownership problem. Every website allows you to recover your account using the. Having trouble logging in. Traditional email verification route, which bypasses the passkey. If someone hacks your email, you are still fully owned. Email accounts are still the Achilles heel of Internet security. I agree. So passkey. Yeah, I can see where nerds like me like, oh, passkey is great. I don't, you know, just use the passkey because I know how to back it up. I know where to put it so that I can retrieve it. But now you're basically, you're removing the help desk for people who need it, who have been taught you need. There's a help desk. If I can just call somebody. Right? No, you won't be able to call somebody. So that's passkeys. We've done that. Now let us.

[Adam Curry]

Skipping back to the art. Yeah, I thought you pay now.

[John C. Dvorak]

We like that. We did like it.

[Adam Curry]

It was too muddy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, that was the problem. You pay now.

[Adam Curry]

Well, no, the problem was the other piece is better.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, that Was. That was the ultimate problem. Oh, yeah, you pay now. Yeah, it was washed out. That's another digital 2112 man piece. It's like. Like they put a piece of film over it. This is the. The AI art problem.

[Adam Curry]

Mud.

[John C. Dvorak]

Mud. Muddy art. Muddy art. Yeah. It's no good. Yeah. So that one. That was then. Congratulations to our relatively new artist who came in with that. He's been around for. He's done a couple. It's all AI of course. It's ruined everything. Ruined everything. Ruined everything. We have a lot of people to thank because as we explained earlier, numerous numerology has always been a big thing with the no Agenda crowd and gitmonation. And we love it. And we haven't had a great episode number come up in a long time. Probably since PI day even. That's a bust these days.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, no, that's been a bust since day one.

[John C. Dvorak]

It really was.

[Adam Curry]

It's never. Never caught on.

[John C. Dvorak]

But 1776, I mean, come on, that's. Everyone understands the significance of the number and boy, did they ever. So we thank everybody 50 and above. And if you support us with 200 or above, just because it's a lot of money, we love to give you something extra for that. No tote bag. We just give you a credit. It's a credit on the website, credit in the credits, and you can use that anywhere. Credits are recognized like IMDb.com because it's true. You are then an associate executive producer of the no Agenda show for that episode. And we will read your note. $300 and above the extra special special. And we. We will read your note and you get an executive producer account. And we have a number of them. Not surprising. And a number of them anonymous.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, this is good. The spooks came in.

[John C. Dvorak]

The spooks woke up and came in the Anonymous from Charlotte, North Carolina. 1,776 76.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I had a little, little, little extra ditty there. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

And says thank you for your courage. I love it. The higher the amounts, the shorter the notes. It's uncanny.

[Adam Curry]

It kills me.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's uncanny how it works.

[Adam Curry]

Well, let's go to the next Anonymous from parts unknown. USA, 1776. And his note is anonymous. USA doesn't even say anything. So I think he gets a double up. Karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right, we'll hand those out.

[Adam Curry]

You've got.

[John C. Dvorak]

Karma over to Weymouth, Massachusetts. Plum Tucker, 1776. Please credit me as plum tucker. This blows me right past knighthood and into baronet. No jingles, no karma. But I will Humbly request a de douching. Thanks. And thank you for your courage.

[Adam Curry]

You've been de douched.

[John C. Dvorak]

Nice. Thank you.

[Adam Curry]

So we got one. Awesome. Jason in Smyrna, Georgia, 17, 1976. Great. And he actually has a note. Hi, Adam and John. I was going to donate earlier and ask for some jobs. Karma for some friends. But they both got jobs, so.

[John C. Dvorak]

I.

[Adam Curry]

Guess it's just the thought that counts. I believe this donation brings me to the level of Viscount.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow.

[Adam Curry]

And grants me lifetime access to the no Agenda Platinum bundle.

[John C. Dvorak]

It does. And you get my phone number. Text me whenever you want.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, Actually, Viscounts can text Adam.

[John C. Dvorak]

And wine recommendations from John on the fly.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. If you're at. If I'm here and you want me to check a wine list out, send me a picture while you're at the restaurant.

[John C. Dvorak]

Does it. He does it.

[Adam Curry]

I do it when I can. If I'm not. If I'm watching, you know, something on TV downstairs, I can't.

[John C. Dvorak]

Female ice hockey. Yeah, yeah, I got you.

[Adam Curry]

No, the female. Okay. The female ice hockey from University of Wisconsin. And the girls at. What was it? West River. What did I call it?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know.

[Adam Curry]

It's.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know.

[Adam Curry]

River Falls.

[John C. Dvorak]

River Falls. Yes.

[Adam Curry]

They sent me a. They sent me a hoodie or a sweatshirt.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh.

[Adam Curry]

And I. Out of the blue. Because they won two championships in a row in 24 and 25.

[John C. Dvorak]

Ah, now the monkey comes out of the sleeve. You were bought off again.

[Adam Curry]

Well, so I gave him a plug.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And then I thought about it, and I said, where's my Florida stuff? Florida's been. I never heard anything about the basketball. Now they won the championship in hockey. Nothing. I had two people promised me Florida stuff. Nothing. They're just cheap in Florida. You can figure out why. So, okay, so he continues. One, one. Awesome Jason. He's got his platinum bundle. You got that? Keep up the good work. He writes from four more years. Four more years. Just four more years. Get it?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yep. For more years. Many more years. For more years.

[Adam Curry]

I'd like some jobs. And relationship. Conversely. Wants jobs. Anyway, thank you for your courage. If I count doctor, sir. Awesome. Some Jason. PhD. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote. Oh, for jobs.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right. Another 1776 from millennial Fred. Then he sent in a note, which I have here. He says this. He's in Savannah, Ohio. I requested 1. Requested night name, sir. Millennial Fred. 2. If you must have an exit strategy, please appoint new hosts. The show must go on. Well, yeah, that'll be Darren And Larry, of course, three. And by the way, they'll do the show, but they have to pay us a vig. You know, we're licensed. Just license.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah, duh, duh.

[John C. Dvorak]

3. Hopefully leadership change in Iran will result in a leadership change in Israel. And I think that's his note. So. Okay, thank you very much. No, no other jingles or karma. So there you go.

[Adam Curry]

It's very strange. It did the whole packaging by this guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Interesting. Interesting way.

[Adam Curry]

It was in a big envelope with a cardboard thing with a bunch of little envelopes with money in the envelop. And it was just very. I will say it was spooky.

[John C. Dvorak]

Ooh. Oh, one of the. Mm mm. I hear you.

[Adam Curry]

So there's a. We should have these kinds of dates more often.

[John C. Dvorak]

Spooky.

[Adam Curry]

That was millennial, Fred. Okay, now there's the one. So we go from bad, from good to whatever we have here. And I. It's a big long note and I'm gonna have to.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think you can. You can read the second half.

[Adam Curry]

Dan Fousey. Oh, yes. Okay. And he came in with 10, 30, 26. And he says he apologizes for the long note. Now where's the second half begin?

[John C. Dvorak]

Now for my original note.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, okay. This is future night now. Night, sir Dan. Night. A lot of nights going on here of west central Ohio. Please deduce me you've been de douched now. He'll keep it short. I started listening about the time Biden took office. I had heard John for years on Twitter and missed his non woke non flaming liberal point of view. I wonder who he's referring to there. I had been struggling for the last few years listening to the woke guy and this week in woke rant about Trump and the Republicans, I finally couldn't take it anymore. So I started listening to no agenda. Since then, I haven't missed an episode and haven't listened to any episodes of that pathetic excuse of a netcast. Okay, easy, easy, easy. Yes. Back off. Thanks for all you guys do and keep up the good work. Four more years. General health. Karma for my family jingles. I got ants and rubbleizer. Sir Dan of the west central central Ohio. If approved by the porridge committee.

[John C. Dvorak]

The porridge committee approved.

[Adam Curry]

Committee says yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, we approve. Not a problem. Here's your ants and rubbleyes are on the way.

[Adam Curry]

I got ants, I got ants.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know if we India. Hang on, Mike. Standby 33, 33, 33. Rubberizer out.

[Adam Curry]

You've got karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right, thank you very much. And we now go to. Let me see. This is Steve. Steve Schneider in Round Lake, Illinois. Steve Schneider in Round Lake, Illinois. And he just says, itm Jingles, what's that in your mouth? And Hot Pockets. Oops.

[Adam Curry]

What's that in your mouth, Hot Pockets?

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, I get it. That's cute. Yeah, I got it. That's cute. I like it. It was very nice.

[Adam Curry]

Archie in Tigard, Oregon. $1,000 and $0.01 scent. So that's a nice little palindrome. Hello, Adam and John Jingles. The Beatles. Yeah. No. With this donation, I become a knight of the no Agenda Roundtable. I'd like to be known as henceforth as Dr. Sir. Yeah. No, Commodore 128. Commodore 128. No one's done that yet.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's a good one.

[Adam Curry]

Please order fresh stroopwafel and rare steaks for the round table.

[John C. Dvorak]

Just throw vodka.

[Adam Curry]

I kindly request baby incubating karma from my smoking hot wife. House selling and buying karma and prayers as Tigger has gotten overly crowded, huh? And my family is growing. Interesting. I never knew that. Thank you for your courage, Dr. Sir. Yeah. No, Commodore 128. Yeah, no, yeah, no, yeah, no.

[John C. Dvorak]

You're saying yeah while you're saying no.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, no.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, no, you know, yeah, no, I don't know why you're saying yeah while saying no. Yeah, no, no, you know, yeah, no.

[Adam Curry]

I don't know why you're saying yeah while saying no. Yeah, no. Yeah, no. Yeah, no. Yeah, no, you've got karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

Nice. Hadn't heard the yeah, no in a long time. Daryl Irons is in wyoming, Michigan. Wyoming, Michigan. $1,000 LTB. FTD. Long Time Boner. Full time douchebag listener. Off and on since Adam was on Twitter. That's a long time ago. Deduce me, please.

[Adam Curry]

You've been deuce, douched, listen.

[John C. Dvorak]

Or more nowadays since the media deconstruction is more than welcome and essential to good mental health. In my opinion, donating for show 1776 seems apt considering the freedom of thought YouTube promote and many support unabashedly. Hopefully the PhD will assist me when making the effort to hit people in the mouth who want to know the truth of our life. Jobs, karma for my wife and they says, oh, my thing is spread protect their freedoms. Wait, wait, what?

[Adam Curry]

Longtime boner, first time donor.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Protect their freedom. That was okay. I have that one actually. Yes. Protect their freedom. Trump. I'm going to come. I didn't have time to because the spreadsheet came in very late. So I'm kind of doing everything on. On the fly here. Trump. Okay, and then what else does he want? Rev. Rev.

[Adam Curry]

Al Real confrect.

[John C. Dvorak]

No confrect. Okay, got him. Got him all lined up. Blessings to the show and all involved. P.S. nitename Sir Ogpi of the Great Lakes. Intelligence work takes place within a strong legal framework. We operate under the rule of law and are accountable for it. In some countries, secret intelligence is used to control their people. In ours, it only exists to protect their freedoms. Protect their freedom. Yeah. Long time for that. Protect their freedom.

[Adam Curry]

I'm gonna come.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's no real conflict.

[Adam Curry]

That was that billiard ball guy that was said that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. No, that was. Wasn't that Gordon?

[Adam Curry]

No, no it wasn't. No, it's his associate. It was one of the guys that was in the. In the. One of the ministries.

[John C. Dvorak]

Right.

[Adam Curry]

Hey, he's calling bald. Bald.

[John C. Dvorak]

Baldy. Yes, baldy.

[Adam Curry]

Sir Jre. Joe Rogan experience. But he's in. This guy's in Boulder City, Nevada. Thousand dollars. Good day. Hey gentlemen. I've been waiting for this show to provide well deserved compensation for the product you provide. I hope this message finds you well. However, I have some business to tend to and cannot provide the note I wish you fellows to read on the air due to technical difficulties. Well, send us some other times Thousand dollars. You deserve it. Sir J.R.E. of the mighty Colorado.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well the. That's very nice. One second. There we go. Next up we have Sir David Bel Air Texas 69 69. 969669. Love that jingles. Climate gate. It's science Rubbleizer. Shout out to Mr. Jefferson for show. 1776 on my 69th birthday. Life, liberty and the pursuit of no agenda. It brings me to Baron. I'm claiming the Texas Gulf coast says Sir David Fresh Prince of Bel Air. Shut up already. It's science India Tango Mike. Standby 33. 33. 33. You know, Dr. Kiki was well ahead of her time with the. Shut up already at science. She was way before COVID when we all had to follow the science. She's kind of a trendsetter and I think about it.

[Adam Curry]

I guess so. Michael Johnson in Montello, Wisconsin. 666.67 in the morning. Gentlemen, thank you for your courage and the amygdala shrinkage. This donation brings me to knighthood. And I ask that I please be given the title Sir Michael Wisconsin Knight of the Pipe. No request for the roundtable. And I and have been reliably informed that the Mutton and Mead is top notch.

[John C. Dvorak]

It Is it Is.

[Adam Curry]

It's very good Jingle request. Two to the head, little girl. Yay. And Obama, you might die. Please give a douchebag call out for my Argentinian brother, Matty P. Give him the great work. Sincerely, Michael Johnson in Montello, Wisconsin.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let me hit that again. You might die. Shaheel Amin. Shahil Amin. Enola, PA 53328. Congratulations on show number 1776. This donation is from the three Amin siblings. Surreal. Sahil and Shefali. 1776.76 times three is five, three, three, two, eight. Whoa. Now you're talking numerology. Anybody? But please give the producer credit to Shefali Amin. Amin. We've been longtime listeners since the very first show and want to thank you both for years of entertainment and excellent media deconstruction. Could we please have some medical career karma as all three of us are entering the the final stretches of our training along with whatever Reverend Manning jingle is most readily available. Okay, let me find a Manning for you. Okay, I got a classic Manning for you. Those are always a household favorite. Love and light from the Emile siblings. Okay, so we'll give you.

[Adam Curry]

What I was going to say. You have to put. Make sure that's a switcheroo. It doesn't say.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, it says Shamil says it goes. Goes to Shamil. Oh, Shefali. Okay. Yes. I'll do the switcheroo right away. That's a show enough Money shot. Jesus, look at that. That's a money shot. Ken and Conway in a money shot.

[Adam Curry]

You've got karma. Sir Edward in Batesville, Indiana. 3 7, 6. Please apply this donation to Mark and Maria, the most awesome hosts. Hosts in the universe. Little sibilance there for me. God bless the usa. Thank you for your courage. Sir Edward of Tatten Hall, Baron of flyover country, is another switcheroo, actually.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yep, I have it noted. That's Sir Mark and Dame Maria of the Greenwood. I believe they do. They do the India the Indiana meetup and they do it. It's a big, big, big, big, big show they do over there. They got it. Commodore G is in Cincinnati, Ohio, 34375. He just says Commodore G. So I think that's a double up. Karma.

[Adam Curry]

You've got karma. John al Marini, parts unknown 34 03. Please accept this donation of 34 03. It's been quite a while since my last donation, but I plan to start a sustaining donation going forward. Good man.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Excellent.

[Adam Curry]

This donation brings me to Barron status. And it's acceptable to the. If it is acceptable to the peerage committee. I like to claim the title of Baron Surly. Get it? Surly. Ha ha. Rice. Rice, President of the United States. Please continue the great media deconstruction and analysis that you both provide. Sincerely, John Alberini, formerly of Gurneyville or Guernville, is as is now pronounced California, but now residing in parts unknown.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sir Goon is in Overland Park, Kansas. 33334. Goon says thank you to the best country in the world and the best podcast in the universe. Gotta get some stripper names. R2D 2 Karma and John's Nut fisting story at the end of the show. Love you mean it. Baron. Sir Goon Lee North. Kck. I'm gonna give you a little bit of the fisting nuts and some strippers and just go for it. Joe, John, tell us your peeve about the fisting method of eating snacks on an airplane.

[Adam Curry]

I see this on the airplane and it's very annoying and I think it will result in fights breaking out because it's just so annoying to watch. Guy takes his bag of peanuts and he throws a pile of them into his palm of his hand and then he makes a fist around the nuts. Straight from Resita. Here she is, Raven. Give it up. You've got.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, man, I miss Club 33.

[Adam Curry]

They burn it down.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I know.

[Adam Curry]

It was Sir Goon in Overland Park. Oh, I'm sorry, I got the wrong one. You just did. Sir Goon. Yes. Edo Court. In.

[John C. Dvorak]

In Ado.

[Adam Curry]

It's a Dutch.

[John C. Dvorak]

Dutch. Yes.

[Adam Curry]

In Elmer, Almira, Elmira. 333. 33. I don't really care about the value for value system. I just want to have my own IMDb page and that's selfish. So be it. Here's some value. Why don't you make John say free Condo, Bruge, Gehecht, Cap, Saturn, Brod, Warm Vlis. Okay, that'd be funny.

[John C. Dvorak]

He says, repeat after me. Frikondel.

[Adam Curry]

Frikondel Broche, Haakt. Brojek.

[John C. Dvorak]

Bronflace.

[Adam Curry]

Brojavar Place to. All the Dutch are cracking it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Paul Smith is in Anchorage, Alaska. Wait, what?

[Adam Curry]

What does it all mean?

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, Frikondel is like a. A Dutch sausage, but it's filled with pig eyes and earlobes and foreskins. Bro is a. Is a meatball sandwich. Oh, no. A meatball. A sandwich of ground beef, raw capsulone is a. A barber shop. And a Brom fleece is like kind of a Dutch pastrami sandwich. You're welcome. Paul Smith in Anchorage, Alaska. 3:33.33 Honky tonk Willie says no jingles, just some legal karma. Please. Family law stuff. Oh, you got it. We can take care of that.

[Adam Curry]

You've got karma. Hallie Porter, AJL L L E Y in Pensacola, Florida, 33333. Gentlemen, I apologize for the long delay between donations. I'm sure the sad puppy has passed away by now. I can only blame my cheapskate of a husband. He won't even let me send dog food to the P.O. box. Well, you haven't got that advertiser yet. Alas, he may be cheap, but at least he's a God loving patriot. Congrats on show 7th, 1776. What a monumental occasion. And it's truly an honor to be a producer for the best podcast in the universe. Please send jobs come for my husband so he can keep drinking. Oh, I'm. So we can keep donating. And for jingles, let me have your best round of America Jingles. Whatever you want.

[John C. Dvorak]

Geez. America jingles.

[Adam Curry]

That's what she said.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I have this one.

[Adam Curry]

We are here, America, near our house. Hashtag Target soon.

[John C. Dvorak]

And.

[Adam Curry]

And this is an American moment.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right. And then jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs. And jobs.

[Adam Curry]

Let's vote for jobs.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, we move on to Haley Porter, Pensacola, Florida. 33. 33, 33. Loving patriot. Congrats on Show 17, 1976. Wait, where am I?

[Adam Curry]

I did Haley Porter.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[Adam Curry]

You're on Valentino.

[John C. Dvorak]

Valentino Argiero. Arguero. Arguero. Ann Arbor, Michigan. 333. 33. Jingle a drone again. Credit change back. Change requests back to my full name, please. Okay, no Agenda. A fantastic product. If you're in need of a realtor in Michigan, primarily in Ann Arbor and the surrounding areas, put your trust in a fellow no Agenda producer or to get the job done, email me at valasepropertygrp.com base propertygrp.com Val and if you want fantastic natural beard products. Wow, this is a.

[Adam Curry]

This is a double hit.

[John C. Dvorak]

If you want fantastic natural beard products and beeswax candles, go to castelsilano.com Castel C A S T E L S I l a n o.com, keep up the great work, boys. That was the jingle. Request a drone again. All right, we got it.

[Adam Curry]

Kevin Barber in Odessa. Odessa, Florida, 33333. Your analysis of Israel and the Middle east strategy in 1774 was amazing. Thank you. I've had questions about this for years. Hot Take AI used well.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hot Take.

[Adam Curry]

Hot Take AI used well is a super useful tool. And P.S. no Agenda listeners. Donating was super easy. Just do it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, that's a good one. Thank you, Kevin. Sir Baron John Helmer, Shawnee, Kansas. 333. And he says 1770, 76. No jingles, no karma. Sir Baron John Helmer of the Shawnee, Kansas.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, this is. How did I get the long ones today? Greg the welder. Good old Greg.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And he is in Pottstown, Pennsylvania and he gave 333 and he says I was punched in the mouth and called a douchebag. Just the last show by Tomonymous.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

So I require a de douching. You've been de douched. I love the show. Forget my tardiness. I love the show and listen to every episode. I've punched a few mouths but a real donation is passed due. Thanks for always giving praise to welders. Yes, well, we know. Do we praise welders? I just tell people to become welders.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, that's high priest praise coming from.

[Adam Curry]

You and other trades on the show. I'm sure I'm not the only one who appreciates the love. Some house buying karma would be great. You don't have to read the rest of the note on the show.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, nice.

[Adam Curry]

But I wanted to make a statement regarding Senator Mike Lee's public land sale proposal. I'm an advocate for all public lands. I'm going to read some of this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

These lands are owned by. By the American public, us. We own them. I think we had a clip. Didn't I have a. I don't know if we ever played the clip. Where they want to sell some public land. It amounts to 0.000% of them.

[John C. Dvorak]

That was me. Yes. Oh, no, not. It's 0.75%.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Max. Big deal.

[John C. Dvorak]

Max.

[Adam Curry]

And they're making a big fuss. Oh, you're selling the land. We own the land. They're managed by the federal government and trust for the American. American people. These lands are and always will be more valuable to the American people as wild places and places of recreation and resources. None of it should be sold. Even 075. Oh, he's against it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Particularly when proposed by a senator whose top contributors consist of Microsoft and the Blackstone Group.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, this is actually President Trump's proposal because he wants to build housing on it and some of it for oil. But I don't think it'll go for oil because no one is drilling, baby. No one's doing new. New wells.

[Adam Curry]

Don't have to.

[John C. Dvorak]

No. So, yeah, there you Go. It'll go towards your.

[Adam Curry]

It goes on to promote these lands, staying with the government and so. Okay. It's a reasonable position.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's your position. You're sticking with it. Greg the Welder Jason Edmonds, Johnson City, Tennessee 31776 I see what you did there. ITM John and Adam. Please please accept this remittance of 31776 plus fees. Your deconstruction is invaluable in the preservation of my sanity. Hopefully this assists you in maintaining your independence. Oh yeah, it does. Of course it does. Appreciate that.

[Adam Curry]

Sir Brian tobiasin in Gardner, Kansas 30888 ATM Gents, I just noticed I had been around. It's been a year since I donated and it's unacceptable. You guys are a major part of my week and I can't imagine how incredibly miserable I'd be without getting my news from just getting my news from the M5M. Thanks for all you do. And can I please get a jobs comer for my expansion of my real real estate and architecture photography firm into Columbus, Missouri from Kansas City. Any no agenda producers who need photos of buildings in any matter for any purchase can check out kchomephotography.com I do have reasonable travel rates. Maybe even to Tokyo. He says to Duchess Astrid. Yes Jingles. Well she they're architects so they could use a photographer once in a while.

[John C. Dvorak]

I bet they can.

[Adam Curry]

What's that in your mouth? Don't trust China and little girl. Yay. Thank you for your courage and hard work and keeping me and my family family sane. Sir Brian Tobias and Viscount of Chief's Kingdom. What's that in your mouth? Donald Trump? Don't trust China. China is yes, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

[John C. Dvorak]

Andrew St. Clair Salem, OR 308 John and Adam even with this past this and my past donations, my V for v falls around $1 per per show or 33 cents per hour which still doesn't feel like adequate value. I encourage all producers to do some quick amygdala math to determine your amount of shows. Listen to verses of amount donated. How much is your brain maintenance worth? Love you guys. Heart emoji. Thank you. I love that.

[Adam Curry]

Got a heart in there somehow.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Michael Tassler in Urbandale, Iowa 26322. He's the first associate executive producer on today's wonderful show. 250 donation to the show number 1776-2026 celebrating Independence Day 250th anniversary one year early. De douche me please call it independence. Sorry no Go ahead. Sorry, de douche him. You've been de douched. Call it the Independence Day dope donation. You can run the promotion through the next year. No, that's an idea.

[John C. Dvorak]

Don't give John any ideas. That was it.

[Adam Curry]

It's running through this promotion. The 1776 promotion runs through the 4th of July.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh. Oh, really? Oh, okay. Well, that's. That's good to know. We move on to J surplus in Greenville, South Carolina. Associate executive producer credit for you with $250. ITM John and Adam Dec donation was for episode 1775. The year our Marine Corps came alive. That's right. On November 10th, the Marines will celebrate 250 years of honorable and faithful service. But we don't need parades as we celebrate our birthday every year. This donation was the suggestion of my smoke and hot Marine wife who is listening live in the car with our three human resources. I was hit in the mouth in 2018 and of course my attempt to be deduced on Sunday broke PayPal. I won't take so long to donate again. Yes. Yeah, it did break PayPal. I'm going to deduce you again. Thank you for the best podcast in universe jingles, Judge Janine Bombham, and Obama. You might die.

[Adam Curry]

In fact, I would say bomb them. Bomb them and then bomb them again.

[John C. Dvorak]

You might die. Yes, that's right.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. I think some of these donations were from last week.

[John C. Dvorak]

Could.

[Adam Curry]

Could be because we had that decade cutoff at 3:00.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yes.

[Adam Curry]

John Homan, no relation in Noblesville, Indiana. I don't think. 219 11. John and Adam. Your deconstruction is biblical. Ephesians 6, 12, 13.

[John C. Dvorak]

Ah, the full armor of God. The full armor of God.

[Adam Curry]

Resist we much in the evil day. Maria Goretti, Pray for us.

[John C. Dvorak]

Saint Maria Goretti. Saint Maria Goretti.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I missed. Where's the say. Oh, okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

St. Yes, okay.

[Adam Curry]

But resist we much, we must and we will much about that. Be committed.

[John C. Dvorak]

And Eli, the coffee guys in Bensonville, Illinois comes in with 217 76. 217 76. Best show number ever. An early Happy Independence Day to all. Just remember, those that rebelled against the British crown did so over unjust laws and taxation. That was a fraction of the burden we have today. Let us celebrate the spirit of those that fought for our liberation this July 4th. And this is a guy who does not celebrate Juneteenth, people. I'll tell you that on the 249th birthday of this great nation, coffee became the drink of America because the English drank tea. Do the Patriotic thing. Brew coffee, grab a bag of gigawatt, and start your morning right. Thank you for your courage and stay caffeinated, says Eli the coffee guy. Gigawatt coffee roasters.com.

[Adam Curry]

So there's a little anomaly in the, in the, in the narrative about taxation without representation. We're being overtaxed. And the American Revolution is one of the things I studied when I was at school. And there's a. An irony to it. We actually weren't being overtaxed. What had happened was King George and this really just completely. The American Revolution completely baffled King George III because of all the bitching about taxation. He had lowered the taxes. Oh, they'd actually lowered the taxes on the colonies, but put an enforcement group in to collect the taxes. We weren't paying the taxes. And it was actually having to pay the taxes that got everybody riled up and of course baffled him. Oh, I lowered the taxes. And now what are they all pissed off about?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, that's interesting.

[Adam Curry]

Unintended consequences. Okay, where are we? I'm on Rick Bunch. I got lucky on this one. Laverkin, Utah 21272 ducks and aged eggs. Duck ducks, Dutch ducks and eggs. To ya from the land of many wives. Thank you.

[John C. Dvorak]

Mitchell in McKinney, Texas. 208 Mitchell from McKinney, Texas here. What felt like a ratcheting up has actually led to a cooling down in the Middle East. You know what's not cooling down? Your west facing windows in the afternoon sun. Man, this is good. Cool view of McKinney. That's C O O L V U. At cool view of McKinney, we install ceramic window films that block heat and make your home more comfortable without giving up natural light. It's a no maintenance upgrade that doesn't change the way your windows look. Check us out at coolview.com mckinney C-O-O-L v u.com mckinney m c k I N N E Y I T Mitchell the tint guy, huh?

[Adam Curry]

Kevin redacted in Momel, Arkansas 20420. Please credit me as Kevin Redacted. Okay, we did that. This donation takes me to knighthood accounting in email. I'd like to be knighted as Sir Kevin Redacted from the Redacted Mountains of Redacted. For the round table, I'd like some Kona coffee and cannabis.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. That has been ordered for you. All right. Anything else? No, that was it. And then Sir Ulrich Wiener Neustadt Austria. All right.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, we're getting more Austrians. That's great.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, hold on. Let me see. I don't get his jingles lined up. All right, thank you for your courage. Keep up the excellent work. Your show is getting better and better. Please add my smoking hot Spanish girlfriend to your birthday list. She celebrated on the 21st of June jingles. Request. Trump, Trump. Ch, ch, ch. Jobs. Karma. Trump. Due to climate change. And little girl. Yay. Okay, your producer from Wiener Neustadt, Austria.

[Adam Curry]

Due to climate change. Jobs, jobs, jobs. You've got karma. Now we have SDG in Oakland, 200 bucks flat 1776 donation with a $24 bump to make AEP. Reverend Al Mamala. Don't come, DJT. I'm going to come.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, goodness. Okay, I understand exactly what this is.

[Adam Curry]

I don't get it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I got them all. Unfortunately, my brain is just as twisted as theirs. Oh, I just gotta up the volume.

[Adam Curry]

Twisted.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

He's in Oakland. Oaktown.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oaktown. All right. Does he need anything else besides this?

[Adam Curry]

No, that's it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

Do not come. I'm gonna come.

[John C. Dvorak]

And finally we have.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I remember when she said that.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't remember. No, not, not. Finally we have. We have. Linda Lou Patkin. Lakewood, Colorado. $200. Jobs. Karma. For a resume that. You're coughing through the reed, man.

[Adam Curry]

I'm sorry.

[John C. Dvorak]

For a resume that tells your story, highlights your wins and shows, shows why you're unique. Visit ImageMakers Inc.com for a resume that gets results. That's Image Makers, Inc. With a K. And work with Linda Lou, Duchess of jobs and writer of winning resumes.

[Adam Curry]

Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Mark. This is the last one. And it's another whopper.

[John C. Dvorak]

It is a whopper.

[Adam Curry]

Mark Clill. What do you kill? Kilg being kill? It's some Irish name of some sort. I can't pronounce it. Mark Colin. He's in Glendale, California. Came with 200 bucks. Hi, John and Adam. Mark here from Dating Detang. D A T A I n G IO again, Vibe code coding with no agenda on. Oh, he's coding with no agenda on from LA Starbucks parking lot.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, vibe coding means he's doing it with the AI, which is a very specific kind of deal. Vibe come. Vibe coding, man.

[Adam Curry]

Well, he's vibe coding from the no agenda while listening to our show in the LA Starbucks parking lot, stealing their WI Fi.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, very good.

[Adam Curry]

That's the way to do it. Thank you for reading this novella I sent before launch. I was half convinced you'd torched me for the length. You mean this lousy length but you are both gracious and supportive. We were. Which meant a lot to a broke found. Oh, he's a broke founder running on nerves and espresso up.

[John C. Dvorak]

Or guy broke.

[Adam Curry]

No wonder the tang is less buggy and better than ever. Cupid AI is now busy writing bios and. And lining up. Meet cutes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Meet cutes.

[Adam Curry]

Meet cutes. Okay, there's a lot of code in here. Yeah, I guess I'll even generate an image of how it imagines your future wife. Mine's the spitting image of the IG model I can't get out of my head. You can also use it with existing partners and even friends. Now, I haven't found Cupid's limit quite yet, but he's. He's. This is a guy in a deep hole.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, he's IG model. Instagram model. That's what it is. IG model. You got to get out of that hole, buddy.

[Adam Curry]

But I did find my. I did find mine when my head went through my co founder's kitchen cabinet a couple of weeks ago trying to snap him out of it. Luckily, I was only blind temporarily. I guess we won't fast track voice mode quite yet. And I got to learn how to appreciate things like seeing the sunrise again. Okay, he has. Then he talks about the V4V model.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now here's what he says. He says after a couple of months of AB testing all sorts of ads on a very limited budget, I can confidently say the no Agenda show was by far the best performing per dollar spent with. Oh yeah, of course, with the best retention and most gracious early users. Not a single one sandbagged our app store rating even with all the the bugs they ran into. While he might not have quite the budget I had hoped for, I'll do my best to keep the the ad spend flowing to my favorite podcasts while we do our best to couple up the no Agenda Nation Download Dataing D A T I N G A I Matchmaker on iOS or just visit Dataing IO Oh, I see what this was. This is a very elaborate ad.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah, I'd say Dataing. I would go for a different name.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not exactly all in on the data. English.

[Adam Curry]

It sounds Chinese.

[John C. Dvorak]

Thank you very much to these executive and associate executive producers and PhDs to be. Thank you very much for your incredible graciousness and what is the word I'm looking for?

[Adam Curry]

Generosity.

[John C. Dvorak]

Generosity. Thank you. That's the word I was looking for. We appreciate it so much. We know you love the numbers. This really helps the show through some of those Slower times. And of course, everybody can take Support us. This 7076 promotion remains throughout July 4th as it should be. Go to no Agenda Donations.com and we will be thanking people $50 and above in our second segment, which will be coming up shortly. Thanks again to these associate executive producers.

[Adam Curry]

Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Order. Shut up, Slade Squirrel. Shut up, slave. Before we go too far into any new topics, I want to get these.

[John C. Dvorak]

Two clips out of the way, okay?

[Adam Curry]

Because this is news that nobody's covering.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right. We love that.

[Adam Curry]

Are you familiar with the Voice of America scandal?

[John C. Dvorak]

Scandal? Why, no.

[Adam Curry]

Of course you know. Why would you be?

[John C. Dvorak]

I know nothing about the Voice of America scandal. There's a scandal. Everybody was fired. But everybody was fired. What are they still doing there?

[Adam Curry]

Well, a lot of people just disappeared. It turns out that the Voice of America in that whole operation run by, you know, whoever was a Chinese spy ring.

[John C. Dvorak]

No.

[Adam Curry]

Well, listen to the clips. Spies, Lies and mismanagement. That was the title of this Wednesday's House Foreign Affairs Committee hearing on the US Agency for Global Media. The Trump administration has denounced the infiltration of foreign adversaries in into the Voice of America, which once was a beacon of democracy for the world. Over the past 15 to 20 years, the agency has become a significant national security risk. They hire a shockingly high number of foreign nationals and they conduct subpar security vetting so bad that top intelligence agencies revoked this agency's ability to do even the most basic background checks. Lawmakers pointed out the undercoverage and self censoring of content covering the Chinese Communist Party forced organ harvesting where 50, 70,000 young people, average age 28, get their organs taken. Their Uyghurs, their Falun Gong practitioners that the past leadership of VOA Mandarin Language Services conducted annual meetings with the Chinese Embassy in Washington. Trump administration senior advisor Carrie Lake alerted Lawmakers of over 500 of Voice of America's personnel who have disappeared since her audits began. Many who actually provided false information to be credentialed and received visas to work in the U.S. wow, this is good. Where is the news media? Where is the M5M on this story? This is a great story.

[John C. Dvorak]

Nah, they're too busy. Too busy. Other things.

[Adam Curry]

Too many. The daddy thing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, the daddy thing. Yeah. That's really important. The daddy thing, exactly.

[Adam Curry]

Part two of this and Kerry Lake, senior advisor at the US Agency for.

[John C. Dvorak]

Global Media, testified at a House hearing today.

[Adam Curry]

She's described the challenges the agency has.

[John C. Dvorak]

Been facing from attempts at foreign influence.

[Adam Curry]

Our Washington correspondent, Luis Eduardo Martinez has.

[John C. Dvorak]

More on this story.

[Adam Curry]

However, it's clear that USAGM cannot continue.

[John C. Dvorak]

To operate as it has in recent times.

[Adam Curry]

Drastic measures have to be taken to.

[John C. Dvorak]

Ensure that every taxpayer dollar works for.

[Adam Curry]

Where those dollars come from. The American people, not Xi Jinping, not Vladimir Putin, not the Ayatollah.

[John C. Dvorak]

And one of VOA's television editors even.

[Adam Curry]

Publicly pledged his allegiance to the PRC. That VOA allowed the communist Vietnamese and Chinese embassies in D.C. to pressure them into removing videos, cutting short live interviews, or changing story angles. Democratic lawmakers questioned the Trump administration's foreign policy and even revived debates over the 2020 elections in the U.S. first, I'd like to address. Address President Trump's recent strike on Iran's nuclear facilities, an action taken without consulting the committee or securing congressional authorization.

[John C. Dvorak]

You have, to this day refused to.

[Adam Curry]

Acknowledge that President Trump lost the 2020 elections. The US Agency for Global Media has an annual budget of $950 million, a budget that has consistently grown over the past decade. Opposite to global trends of news outlets are decreasing in budget and modernizing their operations. Reporting from Washington, D.C. luis Eduardo Martinez.

[John C. Dvorak]

$950 million. Can you believe that?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that's a billion baby for Chinese propaganda.

[John C. Dvorak]

Unbelievable. Wow. Wow. Who. And who was running that show?

[Adam Curry]

Well, there was that board of governors. You had some people that, you know, their names.

[John C. Dvorak]

Carlson used to run on it. His dad, that is.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Broadcast Board of consult. Let me see who most recently was on the broadcast Board of Governors, because they are no good. Well, of course, now the website has Carrie Lake up there, so I don't know if we can.

[Adam Curry]

We have to go to the Wayback Machine probably, and get some details.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, this is.

[Adam Curry]

This is would say scandal of epic proportions. That is not being covered at all.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. And you think Carrie Lake would be all over this?

[Adam Curry]

Well, she is. She's the one made that brought it up.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I know, but she's. But she's not getting the. She's not getting the. The ink that she deserves.

[Adam Curry]

No, you think. You think that she would be able.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here we go.

[Adam Curry]

She's not.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here we go. Here we go. Kenneth Jaron, Democrat. Kathleen Matthews. She is public affairs officer for HOT for Marriott International. Okay. Michelle Guida, American business person, former government official, Republican. Jamie Fly America Media, executive, President and chief executive officer of Radio Free Europe and Liberty. That's the guy who by. By the way, looks like a. Oh, Marco Rubio was also on that. Hmm.

[Adam Curry]

Well, he's got to be called out.

[John C. Dvorak]

He needs to definitely be Called out and he. Oh, no, he's new. He got January twenty with Kerry Lake. He came in with Kerry Lake?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Okay. Well, he's probably part of the reason that got busted out.

[John C. Dvorak]

Who's this Jamie Fly guy? Where is he from? Council on Foreign Relations, German Marshall Fund. Republican National Committee.

[Adam Curry]

The German Marshall Fund. We have talked about them in the past. This is some sort of a very sketchy, spooky operation. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Senior fellow and co director, alliance for Securing Democracy.

[Adam Curry]

Chinese.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh. In August 2023, he started at Palantir Technologies full time as a senior consultant. There's Palantir. Whitney west get on this guy. Something wrong with him? Yeah. So. Yes. You asked me why the news media isn't covering that. Because they're too busy covering stories like this, which is plagiarism.

[Adam Curry]

Meanwhile, President Trump now sharing a video online that's raising eyebrows.

[John C. Dvorak]

ABC's Lionel Moyes begins our coverage overnight.

[Adam Curry]

With a fragile ceasefire between Israel and Iran appearing to hold President Trump sharing.

[John C. Dvorak]

A video on his social media account featuring a parody song about bombing Iran.

[Adam Curry]

The video showing American B2 bombers and.

[John C. Dvorak]

Including a lyric about putting Iran's supreme leader in a box. It comes as the White House pushes back on early intelligence that indicates Saturday night's bombing only set Iran's nuclear program back. Back by a few months. Yeah, that's what they're busy with. But we, you know, that is kind of. It's a little irksome. You know, people like, hey, it's not the no agenda. No. It's not the no. I mean, we have bomb, bomb Iran, but we've had that for. Let me see the oldest copy I have. Oh, we even had an open and closer here. That's from 2018. Exactly the same.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. That's how it works. Yeah. Do we get any credit?

[Adam Curry]

No. Yeah, credit. Hello.

[John C. Dvorak]

No. Zero. Zero credit.

[Adam Curry]

No, it's because we're not.

[John C. Dvorak]

We're not what?

[Adam Curry]

We're not accept. We're not. We're. I don't know, it's like we're a secret agency.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let's see.

[Adam Curry]

I have one distressing clip to play.

[John C. Dvorak]

I. Distressing clip. Okay, well, we have to.

[Adam Curry]

Which brings me to that. This could have been brought up during the milieu conversation because there's a milieu issue obviously involved here. If you listen to the whole clip. Have you heard about the five? Another story that nobody's. Just a local story. It's a great story, should have been picked up nationally about the fifth graders trying to kill one of the girls. Boyfriends. Fifth graders.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, God. And where is this taking place? These.

[Adam Curry]

Arizona.

[John C. Dvorak]

Arizona. Arizona. Let's listen.

[Adam Curry]

Just end him. That was the goal of a group of 10 and 11 year old girls who, surprise police say wanted to kill a boy at school. The motive? He's accused of cheating on one of them. So she wants him dead. The murder plot was simple. According to the police report, four fifth grade students at Legacy Traditional Schools, West Surprise campus plan to lure a classmate to the charter school's outside bathroom and.

[John C. Dvorak]

Stab him in the stomach.

[Adam Curry]

And each girl had a role to play to get away with it. One would bring the knife. Another would forge a suicide note to make it seem like he took his own life. And someone would act as a lookout while the other carried out the stabbing. And to avoid fingerprints on the murder.

[John C. Dvorak]

Weapon, they would wear gloves.

[Adam Curry]

Documents say the friends came up with the plan during lunch and recess on October 1st. Legacy administrators worked with the school resource officer to investigate when students who overheard the plot came forward the next day, their backpacks were searched and the suspects were individually questioned with their parents present. All four children were then arrested for threatening and disorderly conduct, misdemeanor charges. The police report says three of the students showed remorse, but the fourth would smile and laugh while making excuses for their actions.

[John C. Dvorak]

I blame TikTok.

[Adam Curry]

I can blame Tick Tock. But there's also one of them, the one that's smiling and laughing is a psycho. This is well known in certain environments where you have gangs that have a psycho leader who leads these other dummies.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

To follow them because they're nuts. This was a terrible story that. I mean, I don't. What is wrong with today's editors? This is a story that should be all over the place. And no, you're hearing it on no agenda.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's got headline written all over it. Baby, if it bleeds, it leads. Great.

[Adam Curry]

It dynamite.

[John C. Dvorak]

I have a boots on the ground I'd like to share because it's just one of those things we keep talking about. Soros. The old Soros who's practically dead. And the Alex Soros. This is the. Oh, Alex Soros did take over. Well, the minute he married Huma Abedin, we already knew something was wrong. But listen to this. Good evening. I hope you are well. I hope this note finds you well. I love your show. I've been listening for a long, long time. I donate when I'm able. This is about Alex Soros. He was a student in my ninth grade algebra class in Westchester County, New York. When I taught there, I had to have him removed for his behavior, particularly his propensity to eat pen pencils in class. This was a small private school. Particularly his propensity to eat pencils in class. This was a small private school, as you can imagine, he would go to. Even in a small class, he was difficult to handle. Before removal, I had a parent teacher conference with George and his young wife. The conference was about the behavior, of course, but dad did not say much. He mainly grumbled in a low voice. That's him. That's him talking. Alex was certainly not dumb. And he knew a hell of a lot about socialism for a rich kid. I chaperoned him and several others on a trip to Spain. Oh my God. The longest two weeks of my life. I will end with this. I liked Alex very much. He was bright, funny, but wow, what a nutty child. Thank you for reading. If you're able to get this. That's a great bootstrap on the ground right there.

[Adam Curry]

Top of the line.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's a pencil eater. What does that say? What does that say about. About the.

[Adam Curry]

We must have a few head shrinkers out there that can tell us.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, what does it say about a child who eats pencils?

[Adam Curry]

Gro. Pencils.

[John C. Dvorak]

Grok. A child eating pencils may be exhibiting pica pica, a condition where someone craves or consumes non food items like wood, graphite or erasers. This can stem from sensory seeking behavior, developmental stage stress or anxiety. There you go. Well, risks choking or intestinal blockage. Yeah, duh. Okay. Okay, thanks. AI. Well, I'm sure we have. You're right. I'm sure we have someone out there who can tell us about children who eat pencils and their evil parents with their young wives.

[Adam Curry]

So our buddy Roundy is. Have you seen his latest, Edgar the puppet?

[John C. Dvorak]

No. I love Edgar the Puppet and I wish he still did art for us because man, do we need it. Tell me about his late. So Edgar the Puppet I think is well known. It's the. The insult comic dog. Only funnier.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, a lot funnier.

[John C. Dvorak]

And he doesn't have. But he doesn't have a catchphrase for me to poop on. He needs a catchphrase.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, actually that wouldn't be a bad idea, but he. People should go check this one out. This is. He went to the gay parade in D.C. i think so.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good.

[Adam Curry]

And so I only have a few couple of clips from it, but this is the way it goes. He starts. Starts right away with a top. And by the way. And he told me that every. Because he was insulting the gays basically. There to insult people.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

What he does.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

He says that everyone was really nice. So I wanted to make that clear. No one got pun. Tried to punch him out. Which surprises me.

[John C. Dvorak]

Right?

[Adam Curry]

All right, so he got this woman right at the beginning who was just some non binary chick or guy. I don't. And you can't even tell. But he starts off with a bang with this little. Did he ask her what's wrong with.

[John C. Dvorak]

Her Name your diseases in 10 seconds.

[Adam Curry]

All of them. Yes. I've got dermatillomania. I've got endometriosis. Fibromyalgia, plantar fasciitis. Do I do the mental ones too? Yes. Hit me hard. Okay, we got schizophrenia. No, actually, borderline personality disorder. Major depressive disorder.

[John C. Dvorak]

Generalized anxiety disorder.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, adhd, in case that wasn't obvious.

[John C. Dvorak]

And a stutter in June. The world has been taken over by Pride Month. And all the other holidays are taking a back seat. Wow. That person is cluster B. That's how you just sum it up right there. Cluster B personality. Wow.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. So this. The whole thing went like this. And here's the second. This little follow up, which wasn't. It's not as funny, but it's just to give you a sense of it. And people should go. Go find this video and watch it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Even Santa has got a sideline gig working security. It's time for the World Pride parade. They've gay ified everything. Yay.

[Adam Curry]

Hi, buddy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Every gender is gathered.

[Adam Curry]

All 1,000 of them.

[John C. Dvorak]

Then he gets away with it. That's pretty cool. But he needs a catchphrase. He needs a catchphrase.

[Adam Curry]

I agree.

[John C. Dvorak]

How about, here's the catchphrase. That's fake and gay. We should do that. Something like that.

[Adam Curry]

You almost have his voice.

[John C. Dvorak]

I've got another career going there. I'm getting there.

[Adam Curry]

Hey, man, you'll be doing the voiceover work for a cartoon company.

[John C. Dvorak]

Give me some tick tocks. I need some tick tocks to round out this. This very stressful show. What are the tick tocks?

[Adam Curry]

All right. Yeah, we do have to get to the end because. Yes, my tip of the day is a little longer than usual, too.

[John C. Dvorak]

I thought you already gave your tip of the day. How to. How to recognize a lesbian.

[Adam Curry]

We can call it that if you want.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, no, no. It's okay.

[Adam Curry]

A couple dudes. Dudes with anti trump rants.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, here. Number one.

[Adam Curry]

Dear maga, you are traitors to our country and your golden God is a treasonous pig. And you will pay for the crimes you have committed against our country. I can reassure you of that. Now, I'm not going to be the one that's doing this. I'm not going to the courts. The world are going to hold you accountable. Because, you see, you are terrorists. And what you have done here by supporting this man and this illegal act of war in Iran, it's going to have massive consequences. But I know that I'm on the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Right side of history.

[Adam Curry]

And I know that there are millions, millions more of us that are on.

[John C. Dvorak]

The right side of history.

[Adam Curry]

And just like those filthy fucking knives.

[John C. Dvorak]

Nazis. Oh, goodness.

[Adam Curry]

You will be wiped. And I can't wait for it. I cannot wait for it. I cannot wait for the marshals to come in and arrest all of them. And they will. I stole this election. They did it with Elon's help. Okay? And they will take all of his money, all of it. It's going to be the greatest thing to ever happen in America, and it will be because of President Trump. And it'll be great. He'll make America great again by sacrificing his existence in a federal prison for the treason he's committed against our country.

[John C. Dvorak]

Cluster B is not reserved for women.

[Adam Curry]

Clearly, that's the point of these two clips. It's not just a bunch of nutcase women. You got these guys out there.

[John C. Dvorak]

So are you happy? Sorry.

[Adam Curry]

I'm sorry. This is part two. This is the second guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

So are you happy, maga? You happy? Happy now? You happy? You voted for criminal. Because now he's a war criminal, too. He just, without provocation, attacked a foreign nation without congressional approval, too, by the way, something that I'm pretty sure is illegal. But he attacked a foreign nation without provocation, which does make him a war criminal now. And you voted him in. And he says in his little truth. Truthiness thing that he's got that. That he wants peace now. You think there's going to be peace when he attacked a foreign country without provocation? You think the Iranians and the Russians and all their other allies are just going to sit down and let this happen? Because we've got a big military, a big military that doesn't have enough people in it that, like, there are slots in the Navy that haven't been filled for almost a decade. In some places, we've got a third of our ships sitting in docks that need to be serviced, but we don't have enough people to service them. But, yeah, but, yeah, let's go to war. Let's go to war. Against a nation that did nothing to us.

[Adam Curry]

Good job, maga.

[John C. Dvorak]

Are you happy?

[Adam Curry]

Now?

[John C. Dvorak]

The real question is, is Mike Johnson going to do anything about this? Because the war crime just happened and he should be impeached. But. And Mike Johnson should be starting that process right now. Is he? Of course not. Not a chance. In his evangelical prosperity Bible.

[Adam Curry]

Hell, I'm so glad I'm too old.

[John C. Dvorak]

My kids are too young to go into the military.

[Adam Curry]

But how many of yours aren't?

[John C. Dvorak]

You're about to get the call up.

[Adam Curry]

Good luck.

[John C. Dvorak]

Does not age well, of course.

[Adam Curry]

No, it doesn't age. The next day, he forgot to throw.

[John C. Dvorak]

In the Seven Mountain strategy. That would have been perfect. He needed to add that. Yes. You know what? I'm going to ask the Rob the constitutional lawyer to write an essay of 400 words or less about the legality of President Trump's strike on Iran. And I know we had dinner at Rob and Maggie's house up in Canyon Lake. That guy, he builds his own electric guitars. Got about 20 of them.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, really?

[John C. Dvorak]

He cooks a magnificent lasagna. And I'm a lasagna connoisseur, I might say. And he has a 1961 Fire Red T Bird convertible in his garage that belonged to his grandmother. Completely mint. I mean, you could eat the lasagna off of the engine. And he's a lawyer. It's. It's pretty amazing. A lawyer we all like. That's.

[Adam Curry]

Well, so far.

[John C. Dvorak]

So far, exactly. You never know.

[Adam Curry]

I'm going to show my support by.

[John C. Dvorak]

Donation to no Agenda.

[Adam Curry]

Imagine all the people who could do that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah, that'd be fabulous. We got some fresh and some classic Iran end of show mixes coming your way. Ones you might not have heard in a while. We've got some. We got quite a lot of nights. We got PhDs, we got title changes, we got birthdays. John's tip of the day. But first, John's going to thank our supporters for episode 1776, $50 and above.

[Adam Curry]

Starting with Melody.

[John C. Dvorak]

Melody.

[Adam Curry]

Melody hawley in Tucson, Arizona. 18702 is a birthday 60 birthday to her husband, Knight John, Protector of the Pocket Protectors. All right, so we got that Ben Sterling in College Station, Texas. That's somewhere down there. 177.60. Dude named Ben. If you said anything there. We want to do anything for him.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, what? Ben Sterling? Yeah, he's the dude named Ben. A defender of megawatts, protector of the electric grid. He gives the ground. His only ask is you. Remind everybody to check out two good old Boys with me and Gene. They got their own podcast.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, that's right.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, yes. Just some good old bars.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that show sarcastic the nomad in Skagen, Denmark 17760 and 17760 is a good one. That's a 1776 donation taken to the dimes Curtis Cool in East Stroudsburg, PA 17760 yeah and he is a knighting so you have to read it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hey, I hope this mess well thank you for your attention to this matter. Who needs new CV Axles Take my Christian cash and knight me Please knight me, Sir Curse of the Cool Kuhl, Protector of the Gap and i80 Road Warrior. But wait, there's more. Regarding the immigration conversation lately, I want to mention something called parole in place in case it could be useful for someone out there. It's a rule created under Obama no homo. I'm just reading what he says. That allows active duty and veterans to sponsor a non citizen spouse who's already in the continental U.S. why is this important? It prevents the non citizen spouse from having to return to his or her country of citizenship to finalize the green card process. Meaning it's all handled domestically and eliminates the international travel part of the process. Results may vary. Consult your immigration attorney and ask if parole in place is right for you. Random question. You've talked about the happy 3x3 music before but I've been wondering if the outro music and then it's cut off. It's Herb Albert. I know that that may be the answer okay. And he will be knighted. I did not know about parole in place. That's a good tip.

[Adam Curry]

Another tip. Nicholas Voss in bayside in New York 17760 he needs a deduching hold on a second. You've been de douched David Derrick. There he is. David Fugazzotto.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hey, that's right.

[Adam Curry]

He is the Duke of Saudi Arabia.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's right.

[Adam Curry]

And the American Heart Gladstone, Missouri 17660 Minister Cat in Austin, Texas. You know Minister Cat?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes 150 I've seen his email. He has something fantastic that will change the world.

[Adam Curry]

So I will reply Anonymous 100 See attached note he does have we have a bunch of when somebody goes to the trouble of sending sending a check and a note.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

Sometimes I'll read the note sometimes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sometimes you will.

[Adam Curry]

Let's see if I can find a note.

[John C. Dvorak]

Of course. Page two John and Adam, thank you for the mind expanding sanity. I dealt with breast Is this the one? Yeah yeah. I dealt with breast cancer for much of 2324. And I'm sure that it was your show that kept me strong, safety sane and filled with hope. Well, I wish we could take credit. I'll be turning 60 on 6. 27. And what better way to celebrate this year of the snake Chinese and all of the shedding of skin than by making a donation. Thank you again Anonymous. Oh, that's beautiful note. Thank you. We're glad. Glad everything's good now.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, we're happy. Sirloin in winter haven't Florida 8009.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wait, we have a Carolyn.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I have Carolyn's note here. Yes, another one. She wrote a note on a card. A very pretty card. In fact a nice card. Here's my second value for value contribution. She has nice handwriting. You can't read. I don't know if you know what that means. She continues your discussion of some baby formula. Ah, baby formula. It was 1953. My mother was told in no uncertain terms that it wasn't great that fee. You should choose modern formula baby formula by the doctors, of course.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, of course.

[Adam Curry]

But I've got an essay I'm going to do on this. Do you remember the I don't know if you remember this. I sure do. Where every kid ended up having to get a tonsillectomy?

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh yeah, sure.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not me.

[Adam Curry]

I never got one.

[John C. Dvorak]

Nope, I still got my tonsils. My tonsils. Be happy.

[Adam Curry]

The experts reason that nature had put breasts on women for a reason and use hers.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's about okay, but I can read this so let me just.

[Adam Curry]

I don't know how you can read it, but.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, okay. Told me no determines that breastfeeding was passe and modern formula was much better. Luckily for me and my mother was smarter than the experts and reasoned that nature had put breasts on women for a reason and used hers for that purpose. That's right. Great shows now. Always fun and educational. Carolyn says all right. Thank you, Carolyn.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, the breasts are there for a reason. Sirloin Winter Haven, Florida. 8009. He claims the PayPal fee made it 8009, so I don't know what he actually donated. Kevin McLaughlin, Conquer North Carolina. He's Ar Galuna. Lover of America. Lover of boobs. 8008.

[John C. Dvorak]

Lover of melons.

[Adam Curry]

He says lover of a melons. As we had the Ellen clip we played Richard J. Lindquist and Squim Washington. 78. 77. I'm just going to read the names and locations. These are all 76. Good idea. Donations. Seven, you know. 76. Yeah, 76 Trombones Anonymous in Western Springs, Illinois. Nick lynch in Asante, Minnesota. Nancy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Chava, Charge Chardavoine.

[Adam Curry]

In Centennial, Colorado. Ryan Seyfried in Cincinnati Mansoor Rod in Alpharetta, Georgia. Sir Alex Zander in Athens, Georgia. George Walther in Ludalang. Ludalang, Lithuania.

[John C. Dvorak]

Lithuania.

[Adam Curry]

That's Luxembourg.

[John C. Dvorak]

Lu.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, maybe he's in Luxembourg. Okay, Luxembourg.

[Adam Curry]

Brandon Logan in Delroy, Ohio. Josh Buford in Midlothian, Virginia. Keleti Cook in Huntsville, Alabama. Alex Watts. Bottles, I guess. I don't know. Fair Oaks, California.

[John C. Dvorak]

Caleb Cook needs a deducer.

[Adam Curry]

You've been de douched.

[John C. Dvorak]

There you go.

[Adam Curry]

Good catch. Kevin Wells in Fort Wayne, Indiana.

[John C. Dvorak]

Another de douching.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, definitely you've been de douched. Carl Lidner and Carrie, North Carolina. Keith Traffic in Brother Nesconset, Nisconset, New York. Okay, Janet. Janet Allgood in Watkinsville, Ollie good. Watkinsville, Georgia.

[John C. Dvorak]

Ollie's eye in there. Alagood. All a good.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, all is good. All of good. Janet Oligode, Tim he in Hanford, California, which is 76. Now we get to the 76 per pure 76s. Sir Duderino in Dendron, Virginia. Wow. Sir Spooky of the Elm street something or other in Western Springs, Illinois. Sir Tigger Max in Cur d' Alene, Idaho. Michael Myers not the actor in Diamond Head, Mississippi. And he says, John, thanks for hitting us in the mouth from the Grimerica show.

[John C. Dvorak]

There you go. In 2019.

[Adam Curry]

I haven't missed that grime. No, he hasn't missed our show since then.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Carl Vogler in Dylan Beach, California. Ed Warner in Bow, Washington. I've never heard of it. Joseph Waltzer in El Paso, Texas. And he's on the birthday list for his niece Charlotte.

[John C. Dvorak]

And we. He wants us to tell his niece Charlotte. How dare you. Okay.

[Adam Curry]

John Holly in Blaine, Minnesota. Jacqueline Lentz in Muskego, Wisconsin, Nepal. Plummer in Rexburg, Idaho. Brian Kaufman in Scottsdale, Arizona. Came with 75. 75. And that breaks the list of people that the 76ers. You 76ers want to thank you specifically. Sam Williams in Davenport, Ohio. 7344 by Baron Victor Corvallis, Oregon. 6771. Dame Rita. There she is. Sparks, Nevada, 6757. And ITM John and Adam, you're the best.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Michael McWilliams and Gilbert Gilbert, Arizona. He needs a de douching. You've been de douched. He says he just found time for podcasts after retiring from his 30 year career in semiconductors.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, you are now boots on the ground. Your analysis is spot on, especially the euro news. Okay.

[Adam Curry]

Telling us nothing that we don't know. Three graphics in Cotton was three graphics. Three the number three graphics in Cotton Heights, Utah and the 6033 and Diamond Star. Thank him for hitting him in the mouth.

[John C. Dvorak]

Needs a deduced.

[Adam Curry]

You've been de douched. Matthew Elwart in Weatherford, Texas. 6006. Sir Nicholas in Dilworth, Minnesota is 5656. You need some house karma. You can get down at the end if you can do that. Kevin McLean in Worcester, Ohio. 5270 to Angela D. Cesaro in Somerset, Massachusetts. Please add Kira and Reed to the birthday. They got birthdays coming up for them. 5272. Mohammed Hamed There he is one of our boys In Bahrain, I believe 5150. He's donating his nuke nuclear your shelter money. He's in the Middle East. He does check in every so often with some analysis for us. Alexa Delgado in Aptos, California. Melissa Alvarez in Ponte Vervedra Beach, Florida. These are $50 donors now. These are 50, 50 50s. And this will wrap us up. Melissa Alvarez. Brett Denton in Boise. George Wushette in La Vernia, Texas. Jacqueline Connolly in Green Bay. Go Packers, Wisconsin. Priscilla Rubio in Norwalk, California. Thanks for keeping us sane. And last on our list here, sir greg in Newport, North Carolina. I want to thank these people for making Show 1776 a huge success.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I did get a note that I need to share because we've done this wrong several times, including episode 693 where we keep talking about the origins of the double nickels on the dime. And he says, hey, you incorrectly credited Sergeant Fred with a double nickels on the dime donation. And I will. He forwarded his note from February 9, 2015. The I wanted to set the record straight. I actually created the 5510 donation. This is a Tom Bushy back in 2010. I think it's actually one of the longest running producer created donations on the show. Way longer than Swazel enough. Or nine. Or nine. Or nine or nine. I take a certain amount of pride in this donation as well as my knighthood that I eventually achieved almost exclusively by making double nickels on the dime donations. Okay, so thank you very much.

[Adam Curry]

This came from who?

[John C. Dvorak]

This came from Tom Bushy. Bushy. B U S H E Y Tom Bushy.

[Adam Curry]

Make sure we credit it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, we will remember Tom Bushy.

[Adam Curry]

And we know we won't. We're just gonna have to send another note. And I think he can keep sending notes and we'll keep reading them.

[John C. Dvorak]

Thank you all very much. Here's the karma. As requested, you've got karma. And thank you all for supporting the best podcast in the universe. If you'd like to support us, go to noagendadonations.com any amount, as you can tell, anything you want to do. It's all value for value. And if you want, and we always appreciate, appreciate that, set up a sustaining donation. Any amount, any frequency. You're safe under $50. We won't mention any of that for, for reasons of anonymity. But thank you again. And also thank you to our executive and associate executive producers for this special episode. 1776 noagendadonations.com Ulrich wishes his smoking hot Spanish girlfriend a very happy birthday. She celebrated on the 21st. Angela Desario Happy birthday to Kira Reed, 40 yesterday. Melody Holly her husband, Knight John, Protector of the pocket protectors, turned 66 today. And happy birthday to Seamus Jones. He is 12. This will be his first birthday. Waking up in his own bed instead of a hospital bed since his eighth birthday. Could not be happier. Praise God. Greg Marshall Happy birthday to Colin, turned 6 tomorrow. Joseph Walter will be celebrating tomorrow. Anonymous turn 60 tomorrow. And sir David Fresh Prince of Bel air is turning 69. Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast day in the universe. Yeah, we got some title changes all right. Sir Plum Tuck becomes a Baronet today. Sir awesome. Sir 1 awesome Jason is a viscount. Sir David Fresh Prince of Bel Air is a baron. And Surly. Baron Surly now Reis, President of the United Stakes. And we appreciate all the additional support from these former knights who have moved up on the peerage ladder. Of course, we have some PhDs to celebrate who now will be receiving their fantastic certificate, their PhD in media declaration reconstruction from no agenda. Plum Tucker sir one awesome Jason millennial Fred, Dan Fauci, Steve Schneider, Archie Darrell irons and Sir JRE. You gentlemen. I think it's all gentlemen. Go to noagendarings.com there's a special section there for the PhDs. Let us know what you want on your PhD certificate and where to send it. We'll be happy to do that. And we have a couple of knights to bring up on stage. John, bring out that 1776 sword. This is a special today.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, hold on a second. It's over here. There you go. Here it is. Look at that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Very nice. Plum Tucker. Millennial Fred Dan Fousey, Archie Darren Irons, Michael Johnson, Kevin Redacted and Curtis Cool. All of you up on the podium as I'm very proud to pronounce the KB As Sir Plum Tucker. Sir Millennial Fred. Sir Dan Knight of West Central Ohio. Dr. Sir. Yeah, no Commodore 128. Sir Ogpi of the Great Lakes. Sir Michael Wisconsin Knight of the Pipe. Sir Kevin Redacted from the redacted mountains of redacted. And Sir Curtis Cool, Protector of the Gap and i80 Road Warrior for you. We've got hookers and Blow Rent boys and chardonnays, throw bottles and rare steaks, Kona coffee and cannabis. And of course, as always, we've got the mutton and the mead right here for you all. Now, knights of the no Agenda roundtable, you know the drill. Go to noagendarings.com It'll all be set up and ready for you to let us know where to send it, what your ring size is. There's a ring sizing sizing guide on that website along with another certificate of authenticity. And this is the cool thing. We have sticks of wax. Sticks of wax to send along and those hold on a second meetup which you get in your package as well. And you can use that because these are signet rings, which means you can use them to seal your important correspondence. And thank you again for supporting no agenda. Great episode 1776. May you always wear your ring with honor. And of course, no no Agenda episode is complete without our meetup overview because this is where the citizens of Gitmo Nation get together, hang out with each other. Connection that brings you ultimate protection. These are the people who will be there for you in an emergency. They are your first responders. And today the no Agenda New York City Plug Uglies is underway. That's in New York City. So Dan, we're looking forward to your meet up report. And get your server on there as well, please. North North Georgia Monthly kicks off at 6 o' clock at Cherry Street Brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia on Saturday. There's Leo Bravo again. The flight of the no agenda number 64 already. 11am Marina Cafe in Wilmington, California. The no Agenda Central Ohio meetup also on Saturday, 1 o' clock at Jackie O's in Columbus, Ohio at the Do Not Pet the Bison Hike meet on Sunday. Our next show day, 10 o' clock in the morning. Fort Wayne Nature Preserve in Fort O Fort Worth Nature Preserve in Fort Worth, Texas. Do not pet the bisons, just observe. The June 20th full on summer startup meetup 3 o' clock on Sunday at Blind Owl Brewery in Indianapolis, Indiana. That is Mark and Maria of the Greenwood. And finally on Sunday, the east Texas meetup and 33rd plus 16 birthday party extravaganza. 3:33pm Central Rotolo's Pizzeria, Longview, Texas. Dirty Jersey horse organizing. Sir Brian with one. I will be there as well. Just an overview of some of these no agenda meetups. We got them worldwide. Coming up in Tilburg, the Netherlands, Zurich and Switzerland. Please send us meetup reports and always include your server. And remember, if you can't find a no agenda meetup near you, start one yourself. Noagendameetups.com.

[Adam Curry]

You want to be where you.

[John C. Dvorak]

Won'T be triggered on hell to lame.

[Adam Curry]

You want to be where everybody feels the same. It's like a party.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, baby. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, baby. So it's time for our end of show ISO. We. We tend to do them now, you know, real isos, I think kind of. I have three. You have just one below. Oh, you've muted yourself. This is on you. You. You've muted yourself. There you go.

[Adam Curry]

What, what, what?

[John C. Dvorak]

You have one ISO. That's it. One is.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Play your three and I'll play mine. I mean, I'll push mine if you don't. If you got a good one.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know. Let's listen. Your job is to tell the people of the world the truth about America. Too long? That's too bad. Here's one from Trump.

[Adam Curry]

The biggest load that we've seen.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think this is the one.

[Adam Curry]

That's a good one for the regular clips, though. Here.

[John C. Dvorak]

How about this one? And I'm putting my mouth right now. You talked over.

[Adam Curry]

Play it again. I'm sorry. I'm doing Trump and I'm going to.

[John C. Dvorak]

Put this in my mouth right now.

[Adam Curry]

That's gross.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I'm going to put this in my mouth right now. That's Laura Loomer, baby.

[Adam Curry]

All right, well, you should. Oh, that's from the dog food.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, it is.

[Adam Curry]

Okay. I got an AI one that I liked. These two guys are great. Am I right?

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, man, that's not even even halfway natural. Am I, Am I right?

[Adam Curry]

These two guys are great. Am I right?

[John C. Dvorak]

You should put two question marks in your prompt. I don't know, man.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, well, next time I'll do that. I think the biggest load that we've seen.

[John C. Dvorak]

I like that one the best, honestly. But, you know, up to you. You choose.

[Adam Curry]

Wait, wait. The biggest. Well, you know, I'd like it because it's one that we should keep in the rotation for regular use because it would follow dumps. Big dumps. In fact, why don't you do that right now? Dumps. Big dumps, then.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, hold on a second. Dumps. Where is the. Hold on Trump.

[Adam Curry]

No, we have it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, we have. No, we have it.

[Adam Curry]

We're getting there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here we go. I'm just. Okay, I got it here.

[Adam Curry]

Dead air. They did dumps. They call them dumps. Big, massive dumps. The biggest load that we've seen.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right, which one do you want?

[Adam Curry]

Right, Take the. Take the Trump one. Go.

[John C. Dvorak]

And now, everybody, it is time for your top of the day. It's your tip of the day.

[Adam Curry]

And sometimes Adam, created by Dana Brunetti. All right, so this is going to be. I have the recipe in the next newsletter. Get on the newsletter. Yes, I'm gonna. This tip of the day is to use. Is to. If you're going to cook rice, use basmati rice. I think you learn how to cook it.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think we've discussed basmati rice. Rice.

[Adam Curry]

We have discussed it, but not as an official tip of the day.

[John C. Dvorak]

No. Because 2011 even. Yes.

[Adam Curry]

The actual tip is always. I have a couple of brands I like. Fawn brand is a good one. They have a seller, which means. Seller means it's been parboiled.

[John C. Dvorak]

Boy. Now explain, why should we be cooking basmati rice? Why do we need to learn this? What is the tip?

[Adam Curry]

Because it's. It's a fat, fabulous product. Is the reason once you start cooking basmati rice, you know what you're doing, you will never cook other rice. You just say, screw it, I'm not going to bother with it. But you have to understand a couple of things which will be in the recipe. But I'll mention it here. But first of all, the tip is Pakistani, not Indian.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, boy. This is a cultural issue.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, it is, and for good reason. The Pakistani pro product is superior and a lot cleaner. You buy Indian basmati, you will be rinsing it forever.

[John C. Dvorak]

Are you saying Indians are dirty?

[Adam Curry]

I'm saying the rice is okay and if you can find it. And some of it comes out of Bangladesh, but I've seen some out of Pakistan. Baby basmati. Wow. That's a rice, but just hard to come by. You can get it on the west coast here and there, but baby basmati is even there. The best. The two brands I like are regular basmati are fawn and zebra. But there's lots of good brands if they're from Pakistan.

[John C. Dvorak]

So do I. Do I smell a new book coming?

[Adam Curry]

Yes, it's the Dvorak family Cookbook.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh. Oh. This one will actually happen because Jay's involved and Mimi's involved. The Dvorak family Cookbook. Wow. When, when can we expect this gem?

[Adam Curry]

Pretty soon.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh. And any minute now.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I'm not going to make promises, but it's coming. It's almost, it's almost done, actually. And I have a. I have Rachel, the copy editor lined up.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, I'm so happy.

[Adam Curry]

And so, but anyway, so Pakistan basmati is what you're looking for and skip the Indian stuff. And I'll. And the last thing I'll say, it's a boiled rice. If you see a recipe telling you how to cook it and they don't tell you to rinse it a lot, they don't know what they're doing. If they, if you have a recipe, they tell you to cook it. One half cups of water, one cup of rice, they don't know what they're doing. Throw that recipe out. It's a boiled rice. You boil it in a pile of water, lots of water, and you pour the water off. When it's cooked, you don't boil it like Chinese rice. Where you get the one and a half cups or a cup or this or that. Bull crap.

[John C. Dvorak]

There it is, everybody. A very clear tip of the day.

[Adam Curry]

Green, just the tip with JCD and sometimes Adam. Wow. Created by Dan Bernetti.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow, wow, wow, wow. They getting you getting in everybody's face there about the rice. This is, this is a tremendous tip. Tipoftheday.net Noah just into fun.com that brings us to the end of this very patriotic episode 1776. Thank you everybody for supporting the show with your value for value. We love you. We really do. Coming up next, we have a walk through the mind poverty as a mindset. It's Billy Bones. Billy Bones on the podcast on the stream. You can stay tuned to Trollroom IO if you're listening there or on your mock podcast app, End of show mixes. We have Hugh Allison with a very timely end of show mix, which he actually put out just two weeks before the Iran 1212 day war. David Kector with a classic and Sir Michael Anthony with the classic as well. And we look forward to seeing y' all on Wednesday. Until then, coming to you from the heart of the Texas, Texas hill country right here in Fredericksburg in the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

[Adam Curry]

And from northern Silicon Valley, where everybody says 1776, I'm John C. Dvorak.

[John C. Dvorak]

We return on Sunday. Please join us for More of your media deconstruction right here on no Agenda. And remember [e-mail] until then, adios, mofos and such.

[Adam Curry]

It's just blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Always a couple weeks away.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, that's just for the goo. It'll take much longer to package it into a missile.

[Adam Curry]

They keep changing the target. A week away, a week away, a couple weeks away. Next month, a week away, a week away, a week away, a week away, a week away, a week away, a week away, a week away.

[John C. Dvorak]

Nuclear. Now they are only days or weeks away from having enough uranium goo. However, Millie says it will still take quite a period of time to package that into a missile.

[Adam Curry]

If Israel sends a couple of missiles over, they're gonna eat anything. A week away, a week away, a week away, a week away, a week away, a week away, a week away, a week away. The nuke being a week away, a week away, a couple weeks away for a decade.

[John C. Dvorak]

You do better than npr.

[Adam Curry]

But if I were the president, I would inform the threatening country, in this case Iran, that if you do anything to harm this person, we are going to blow your largest cities and the country itself to smithereens.

[John C. Dvorak]

We're going to blow it to smithereens.

[Adam Curry]

You can't do that. President Vladimir Putin has warned the west that Russia could use nuclear weapons if it was struck with conventional missiles.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Russian leader presented changes to Russia's.

[Adam Curry]

Nuclear doctrine at a meeting.

[John C. Dvorak]

At a meeting of the country's Security Council, Putin said a nuclear power supporting.

[Adam Curry]

An attack on Russia would now be.

[John C. Dvorak]

Considered a joint aggressor.

[Adam Curry]

The change in doctrine comes after Putin's warnings to the US and other NATO allies that allowing Ukraine to use Western long range weapons to hit Russian territory would mean that Russia and NATO are at war. The good news is Putin's war has.

[John C. Dvorak]

Failed at his core aim. He set out to destroy Ukraine, but.

[Adam Curry]

Ukraine is still free. He set out to weaken NATO, but NATO is bigger, stronger, more united than ever before. I don't want to see wars. I think it's so horrible, so unnecessary, so costly in terms of lives and.

[John C. Dvorak]

Money, in that order.

[Adam Curry]

I think it's just a failed mentality. It's crazy. You can, you can solve problems over a telephone. Instead they start dropping bombs. I see recently they're dropping bombs all over Yemen.

[John C. Dvorak]

You don't have to do that.

[Adam Curry]

You can talk in such a way where they respect you and they listen.

[John C. Dvorak]

To you and you know the number.

[Adam Curry]

Of lives we're talking about is far greater than the numbers that you hear when they blow up the town, when they blow up these buildings. I mean, these are big, powerful buildings.

[John C. Dvorak]

They come tumbling down to the ground.

[Adam Curry]

And they say nobody was injured, a lot of people were killed.

[John C. Dvorak]

And the numbers are a lot different than you think.

[Adam Curry]

You will see that. You will see that happening. When those numbers really get announced, you're gonna see it's much worse. The whole world is on fire.

[John C. Dvorak]

The best podcast in the universe, audio mofo.org na.

[Adam Curry]

The biggest load that we've seen.