1797 - "Death Buses"

Summary

No Agenda Show – Episode 1797: "Death Buses"

Date: September 7, 2025
Hosts: Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak

Overview

In episode 1797 of the No Agenda Show, Adam and John embark on a sprawling, characteristically irreverent deconstruction of current media narratives, political theater, neighborhood drama, and the latest in technological, legal, and cultural absurdities. From the drama of Powerball wins in Texas and neighborhood squabbles to the deeper dives into COVID vaccine propaganda, international immigration raids, and global geopolitical posturing, the hosts maintain their signature style of skeptical inquiry and dark humor.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Powerball Mania & Neighborhood Lore

[03:01 – 14:44]

• The Texas town of Fredericksburg celebrated a $1.8 billion Powerball win; Adam and John fantasize about how they'd quit podcasting (or not) if they won.
• Adam recounts a visit with a “former Hollywood executive” now living in Austin, who’s still in turmoil over the city's new $1.1 million logo—mocked as resembling a homeless tent.
• The hosts lampoon local “first world problems” like “concrete cancer”: rich residents' COVID-era swimming pools are now cracking due to bad concrete.
• Colorful neighborhood anecdotes—like the saga of “Dilbert,” the retired FBI agent ready to shoot a neighbor’s aggressive dog—highlight the microcosmic dysfunctions on Adam’s street.
• The demise and rebirth of a defunct HOA, prohibitions on chickens, and Dallas transplants building oversized mansions with inappropriately bright lights showcase the ongoing suburban soap opera.
  Quote:

"Next time your dog comes running, I'm gonna shoot it in the face." — Adam (as Dilbert), [13:13]

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2. Austin’s New Logo: Public Money, Private Jokes

[05:34 – 07:15]

• Adam describes local outcry over the city of Austin spending over a million dollars and two years on a new branding logo, mockingly dubbed a “Canva Premium” knockoff.
• Most locals think it looks like a tent, a nod to the city’s visible homeless crisis.
• The broader theme: misallocation of city priorities amid bigger issues.

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3. Media Critique: Ads, Trolls, and Pink Salt

[00:43 – 02:28; 39:18 – 40:04]

• Adam vents about scammy YouTube ads for “pink salt belly fat cures,” connecting them to wider media manipulation tactics targeting boomers.
• John's ad-free YouTube experience and Rumble’s rampant ad interruptions prompt a discussion about internet ad blockers and “boomer traps.”
• The hosts revel in the absurdity and futility of detox trends and clickbait.

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4. The Immigration Shell Game & “Death Buses”

[16:02 – 34:05]

• Adam plays a clip about ICE deporting a criminal immigrant to Eswatini after lawyers cited persecution risks in 22 countries—including Uganda, which, ironically, lists English as an official language.
• The convoluted legal tango is criticized as bureaucratic theater.
• Discussion of the U.S. government’s immigration clampdown at Hyundai’s Georgia plant (coined "Death Buses"):
  • Nearly 500 “illegal” South Korean workers detained.
  • Connection made to previous Chinese and Japanese “death buses,” where foreign companies would clean house and import their own management teams.
  • Adam questions why similar raids on Asians don’t prompt protests, theorizing:

“It’s only about Mexicans or brown people, not the yellow people. Yellow people don’t count for these protesters.” — Adam, [30:24] - The conversation circles the hypocrisy and selectivity of public outrage.

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5. "PsyOps" & COVID Vaccine Narrative Manufacturing

[39:18 – 48:48; 55:54 – 57:18]

• Adam and John eviscerate mainstream media vaccine coverage, focusing on a Good Morning America segment featuring Dr. Tara Narula.
• The segment attempts to reignite COVID anxiety, referencing (debunked) freezer trucks filled with bodies, touting “the most important thing you can do is get a booster.”
• Dr. Narula is chided for conflating classic vaccines (polio, measles) with the controversial mRNA ones.
• The hosts highlight the endless shifting of public health “science,” mocking claims that “the science never changes”—

“Yeah, tell it to Copernicus.” — John, [48:57]

• Adam bemoans family members’ blind faith in repeated boosters, despite continual bouts of COVID.

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6. Double/Newspeak & Rebranding the War Machine

[19:41 – 22:33]

• Discussion of President Trump’s rebrand of the Department of Defense as the “Department of War,” harkening to Orwellian doublespeak.
• The hosts reflect on propaganda through language manipulation ("Patriot Act," "reproductive health care"), underscoring the dangers of linguistic dishonesty.
• Cite William Lutz's “Doublespeak” as a primer on the topic.

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7. Chicago’s Car-Filled River and Urban Crime

[24:54 – 26:10]

• 97 vehicles pulled from the Chicago River—John quips it’s worse than Amsterdam’s infamous bicycle-hauling.
• Expands into a critique of the ongoing “war” framing in Chicago and other cities.

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8. U.S.–Korea Relations and Geopolitical Gaming

[26:10 – 37:10]

• Coverage of tense responses to the immigration raid at Hyundai—including South Korean diplomatic pushback and the broader implications of foreign investment intertwining with labor abuses.
• Re-examination of how corporate globalism and U.S. immigration, economics, and race relations intertwine.

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9. Pharma, Podcast Advertising, & Deplatforming RFK Jr.

[38:22 – 41:23; 58:12 – 69:56]

• Adam highlights the media effort to discredit RFK Jr. as HHS Secretary, suspecting collusion with pharma to protect the vaccine ad gravy train.
• John references behind-the-scenes memos urging media execs to silence Kennedy, fearing cuts to profitable pharma TV advertising.
• They note pharmaceutical ads moving from TV to social and podcast networks targeting younger, less ad-weary consumers.

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10. "Patchwork" Vaccination Policy & State Alliances

[45:01 – 61:16]

• The increasing state-level divergence in vaccine mandates is examined, with states forming "alliances" to resist or bypass federal recommendations.
• Hawaii’s governor and others voice alarm over RFK Jr.’s leadership, accusing him of dismantling public health and pushing for “database” (evidence-based) science.

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11. Tech, Legal Updates & the AI Copyright Dilemma

[84:10 – 87:55]

• Discussion of Anthropic’s $1.5 billion AI copyright settlement for ingesting pirated books, the scramble for non-public datasets, and Apple’s parallel lawsuits.
• John laments missed royalties as an author:

“Where’s my $3,000 a book? I know they scanned those books!” — John, [85:14]

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12. Neighborhood Rumors, HOA Drama & Local Power

[10:06 – 14:44]

• Ongoing complaints about noisy, inconsiderate neighbors running businesses from home, shooting fireworks, and letting aggressive dogs loose.
• Tales of mailboxes destroyed by teens and the questionable legal authority of local HOAs in the Texas countryside.

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13. Climate Change Report Skepticism

[72:25 – 74:16]

• Adam and John mock the Department of Ecology’s pushback on a new DOE report that downplays climate change impacts.
• Noted: 2025 may be declared "the hottest year ever," despite evidence of cooler, rainier conditions in Texas.

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14. Big Media, Old Brands, and Boomer TV

[75:07 – 83:51]

• Paramount/Skydance’s $8 billion acquisition brings musings about reviving MTV’s old video format ("Boomer TV") and the purchase of Bari Weiss’s Free Press.
• Adam jokes about reliving his MTV glory days; John doubts the cable TV revival strategy’s viability.
• Commentary on how old media brands desperately pursue relevance by hiring controversial voices and recycling nostalgia.

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15. NATO, Ukraine, and the "Coalition of the Willing"

[94:08 – 117:13]

• Analysis of European/NATO posturing toward Russia, plans for “guaranteed security” via troop deployments in Ukraine after a notional ceasefire, and Putin’s pledge to treat all foreign troops as legitimate targets.
• Canadian expert Andrew Rasulis assesses that Russia is winning the war, that sanctions are the only Western play left, and that Ukrainians have been made “cannon fodder.”
• Adam and John connect these developments to a repeat of pre-WWI “pissing contest” dynamics.

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16. Miscellaneous Noteworthy Segments

• Filler Words ("Um"): NPR’s mini-doc on the value of "um" and "uh" in conversation—both hosts enjoy but critique the concept. [90:01 – 93:34]
• Weaponization of Language: The prevalence of doublespeak/newspeak for rebranding and manipulating public perception.
• Google & Big Tech Fines: Fines for privacy/cookie infractions are ridiculed as “scary sums,” minuscule compared to Big Tech’s profits. Calls for breaking up giants like Google and YouTube are discussed but dismissed as unlikely. [120:02 – 123:37]
• Audience Engagement/Meetups: Review of audience support, meetup reports, donor recognition, and humor over boomer-leaning podcast art and audience size. [127:18 – 134:30]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Pink Salt Scams:
  “This is some sort of psyop... It's a boomer trap, but doesn't trap me because I see it coming a mile away.” — Adam, [01:24]

• Neighborhood Threats:
  “Next time your dog comes running, I'm gonna shoot it in the face.” — Adam (as Dilbert), [13:13]

• COVID Media Critique:
  “The most important thing you can do is get a booster.” — Parodied TV ad, [00:00], discussed throughout.

• On Mainstream Vaccine Advocacy:
  “The science never changes, people. It never changes... Yeah, tell it to Copernicus.” — John, [48:48 – 48:57]

• On Immigration Raids:
  “Death buses... when a Japanese company bought an American company... Buses loaded with Japanese executives who take over the company. So this is—you might be right; you've generalized, but I think you nailed it.” — John, [28:15]

• Climate Skepticism:
  “Dozens of climate scientists have weighed in... one saying the report ‘makes a mockery of science.’” — Discussed [72:16]

• Language Manipulation:
  “Department of Defense is a form of double speak that should be abolished.” — Adam, [21:26]

• MTV Nostalgia:
  “Hey, it's Boomer TV, everybody. Let's play some old David Bowie videos!” — Adam, [76:50]

• Vaccine Policy Patchwork:
  “That's the right word, I think. A patchwork, and it's a fractured approach that we really have. Haven't seen right now in this country before.” — Dr. Tara, [46:07]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Powerball and Neighborhood Stories: [03:01 – 14:44]
• Austin Logo Debacle: [05:34 – 07:15]
• Deconstructing Scam Ads & “Pink Salt”: [00:43 – 02:28]
• Hyundai Immigration Raid & Death Buses: [26:10 – 34:05]
• COVID Vaccine Media PsyOps: [39:18 – 48:48]
• RFK Jr. Smear Campaign: [58:12 – 69:56]
• Climate Change Report Critique: [72:25 – 74:16]
• MTV/Paramount Acquisition & Boomer TV: [75:07 – 83:51]
• Ukraine/NATO & "Coalition of the Willing": [94:08 – 117:13]

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Noteworthy Segments with Quotes

• On COVID Boosters (Parody Ad):
  “The most important thing you can do is get a booster.” [00:00]
• On Outrage Over Austin’s Logo:
  “Most people think it looks like a tent, which makes sense for the homeless tents in Austin.” — John, [06:16]
• On “Database Science”:
  “We need evidence. We need data based science. This is good. This is a neut term...” — Adam, [59:59]
• On Media Industry Desperation:
  “They're literally talking about bringing back old MTV segments and interviews. I'll be famous again. I got to grow my hair so people recognize me on the street.” — Adam, [77:07]
• On China’s “Moon Threat”:
  “We are in a new space race with China, and if we fail, there will be a bad moon on the rise.” — Congressional clip, lampooned [153:36]

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Tone & Style

The episode is a blend of sharp, satirical media analysis, surreal neighborhood tales, and jaded-but-witty skepticism of official narratives. Adam and John’s interplay, frequent inside jokes, and willingness to mock both themselves and the world around them marks the show’s anti-mainstream, anti-authoritarian tone.

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Takeaways

• Media and government narratives are deconstructed with biting humor and skepticism, exposing contradictions, doublespeak, and manipulation.
• Immigration, public health, and climate policy are shown to be as much about branding and fear-mongering as real solutions.
• The lines between local drama and world events blur; whether it’s HOA disputes or NATO saber-rattling, dysfunction and self-interest reign.
• Big Tech, Pharma, and media conglomerates are lampooned for their cynical pursuit of profit amid cultural collapse and nostalgia cycles.
• The only place for real community and sanity? According to the hosts: listener-powered podcasts and meetups, not mainstream media.

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If you’re looking for authentic deconstruction, irreverence toward power, and a good dose of dark humor, “Death Buses” delivers—just don’t expect it to be succinct, safe for work, or reverent toward anyone in charge.

Transcript

[A]

Most important thing you can do is get a booster. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak, it's Sunday, September 7, 2025.

[B]

This is your award winning CuboNation Media Assassination Episode 1797.

[A]

This is no Agenda.

[B]

We got the Powerball. And we're broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA region number six in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry.

[A]

And for northern Silicon Valley where we're still wondering how pink salt can remove stubborn belly fat, I'm John C. Dvorak, crackpot and buzzkill.

[B]

Well, I don't know where to start now. I mean I was all excited about the Powerball and now. And now the pink salt has me curious.

[A]

You haven't seen these ads, these incessant ads on YouTube?

[B]

No, I don't get ads on YouTube because I pay for YouTube.

[A]

What then you're missing out.

[B]

Yeah, I'm sure I am. I went to, I went to. What is the other one called? The one that Russell Brands.

[A]

Rumble.

[B]

Yeah, Rumble. Oh man. You get ads every five minutes. You fast forward ad, fast forward ad and it's like skipping five seconds. It's a ridiculous game. Do they get credit?

[A]

But you get to see the ads for the pink salt.

[B]

What is the pink salt? It removes belly fat.

[A]

It's one of the. Here's the thing that really bugs me and everybody out there has experienced this. Oh, we've got a secret. This is as good as Ozempica's pink salt. The big pink salt secret. And you then they yak, yak, yak and they go on forever. The thing will go on forever. So you have to click on like Sansberg Research to watch the video. And so there's a video that they play. I think this is some sort of psyop.

[B]

It's like stationary research where it goes on forever and never gets to this point.

[A]

And then furthermore, you're going to find what you're going to find out. Just we're going to tell you in three words what to do. And it. Those three words are the most important three words. And it goes on and on and on. And it's just like what? And it's just unbelievable. What? Who's dreaming this stuff up? How can anyone watch it? It's a boomer trap, but doesn't trap me because I get, I see it coming. You're a mile away.

[B]

I love the troll was like, what? Those guys don't know how to get an ad blocker.

[A]

I got plenty of ad blockers. Most of the ad blockers don't work very well.

[B]

You got the wrong ad block. I've been watch the troll room this morning, you know, since. I don't know, since 8 o'. Clock. Kind of. From my peripheral vision. I'm convinced after observing this, that Psy Girl and Lady Vox, they're dudes.

[A]

Oh, I'm sure most of the women on patrol, they're dudes, for sure.

[B]

So the winning. Or a winning lottery ticket of the $1.8 billion lottery. Powerball.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Was sold in Fredericksburg, Texas.

[A]

Did you get it?

[B]

Would I be doing this show? I don't think so.

[A]

I'd be what everybody says. They're never gonna change anything. I want a billion dollars. I'm gonna be the same old guy bringing my lunch to work.

[B]

I would. I would call you up and say, hey, John, here's a mill. Bye.

[A]

Bye. Yeah, that's probably what I'd do too.

[B]

I'll give you two. I'll give you two. Here. Bye.

[A]

I'd give you two. I'd give you two.

[B]

Screw it. Five million. Bye. And then I'd hop on the jet, I come out there, and I'd finally see your studio.

[A]

Guys working. If you sent me five mil, I'd be a meal. Would go into fixing the studio about what it takes.

[B]

Oh, man. So I went to. We went to Austin Friday, stayed overnight with our friends.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And now this is the former Hollywood.

[A]

This is the director or. No, the producer.

[B]

No, no, the former Hollywood executive.

[A]

Yeah, executive. He's a producer, basically.

[B]

I think he was more like a deal maker. Chief financial officer of Marvel. But really he was okay.

[A]

That guy.

[B]

Yeah, that guy. Who did you think it was?

[A]

No, I certainly thought it was the other guy. I forgot that he was. Yeah, the other one guy that, you know. No, I didn't realize. I forgot he was the cfo.

[B]

Yeah, but. But really he was doing like the, you know, the merchandise deals. And I think he go with. With Ike on the jet and rough up some people. I think that's. That's basically what he did. And. And they were all in it. All in a tizzy.

[A]

Oh, how many people were there?

[B]

It was just the two of them, him and his wife.

[A]

And the two of them were in a tizzy.

[B]

Yeah, well, this is. Everyone's talking about it. Have you heard? Have you heard? I know. What's. What's going on because, you know, first of all, we enter Austin and we're always like, wow, I'm glad we moved out of here. It just. It feels like you're always driving through queens in the 1970s for some reason. Except for. Except for the actual.

[A]

What about the Bronx in the 70s?

[B]

All it's missing is the trains with all the graffiti on it. And everyone's. Oh, have you heard? Have you heard? No, we haven't heard anything. And here's what they were talking about.

[C]

The city of Austin has unveiled its first ever logo and brand, replacing 300 across city services. Leaders say it creates one clear identity. But with a $1.1 million price tag, the new look is getting mixed reviews.

[B]

Mixed reviews is the least of it. You got to take a look at this thing. Just go on your.

[A]

I'm going to go look now.

[B]

Go on your Google machine and look.

[A]

At the Google machine.

[B]

So it took them two years to come up with this logo and $1.2 million and that's the result. Most people think it looks like a tent, which makes sense for the homeless tents in Austin.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, the thing is this. The thing with. Looks like the purple and green.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

With Austin underneath a. Yeah, A. And then it's like an A, but it's like an A with a thing going through it. It's like freeways that are intersecting.

[B]

Yes, exactly.

[A]

Sucks.

[B]

Yeah, it's not great.

[A]

What's the point?

[B]

Well, the point is now we have a brand. Austin has a brand that can brand everything. Yeah.

[A]

Well, what they have, the image I'm looking at has the thing next to it, which is a city of Austin.

[B]

Yeah, like a coat of arms.

[A]

Not a logo, but it's coat of arms. What's wrong with that?

[B]

Well, the city has important work to do and this is what they did. And of course, you know, the running joke is like, well, they got a guy who couldn't afford Canva Premium, which is. Does look a bit like that. Looks a bit like Canva Premium.

[A]

Yeah, it does.

[B]

That was the. So there was that news and the other big news.

[A]

What's the point again? It was so they can have consistent branding.

[B]

Why?

[A]

And said, what's the point of that again? City.

[B]

Look at this. Look at the city council. A bunch of nut jobs. It's a Democrat run city and they could. And this is, this is what they come up with. Of all the problems we have in Austin, this is the one we needed to fix this, you know, and it's. It's small compared to their budget. But it's just. It's funny. That was just. That was the main topic of conversation. And then the concrete cancer. This is another first world problem, but apparently a very big one. Have you Heard of the concrete con, the concrete cancer in Austin?

[A]

No, but I'm about to.

[B]

So during COVID a lot of people had swimming pools put in. I'm talking serious swimming pools, you know.

[A]

During COVID Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Because these are all rich people. They have mansions and if they didn't in relative on relatively small plots of land. And so people would just. And also, I think everyone remember when the PPP came out, the. That scam.

[A]

Yeah, the personal protective.

[B]

No, no, no, the loans. The ppp.

[A]

Oh, the PPP loan.

[B]

The PPP loans. Everyone, everyone upgraded their. Their lake gear and got new jets.

[A]

They spent the money. They spent.

[B]

They spent them not on their employees. They spent the money on their pools. And there's people, from what I heard from them, who put in a $500,000 pool. But apparently the main contractors who were doing all this work got bad concrete and now it's splitting and leaking in every single pool.

[A]

That's a scandal.

[B]

Yes. It's also kind of funny.

[A]

It's very funny.

[B]

It's like, wow, you're dealing with that. Okay. Feel bad for you, bro. Feel bad for you.

[A]

The whole show's not going to be about local news. Except for the fact that you still ow us the story about Dilberg.

[B]

I'm gonna hold on to that one. No, I'm gonna hold on. I'm gonna hold on. I'm gonna hold on to it. No, we gotta get.

[A]

How can you hold on to it? We've been putting it off and putting it off and we keep forgetting it. Now I bring it up. I said I'm gonna bring it up at the beginning of the show and then you, you stiff me.

[B]

No, no, it's just, I'm afraid that, you know, now it's been such a buildup. It's going to be a letdown. You're gonna go.

[A]

I'm not gonna say anything.

[B]

Okay, well, it's not that funny.

[A]

Well, there goes sigh. So that says something out of context.

[B]

Oh, good lord. Out of context. I'll get to it later, I promise. I put it on the list. I put it on the list. I put it on the list. Yes, I got it on the list.

[A]

A number of times that we're going to get to it. And then I. I put it on the post it note. There you go again.

[B]

All right, all right. So we have the neighbors up the street. They're the talkies, they moved in. They're running a commercial construction business out of their house with all kinds of trucks parked there. It's been going on for 18 months.

[A]

And everybody's upset about it in the neighborhood.

[B]

On that side, see, we're on the cool, quiet side. There's nothing going on now that we.

[A]

Had to get a vision or an image of this. There's a road that goes up to a T and on the left is your side. And on the.

[B]

No, no, no, no. There's an entrance. Entrance way to the road that we're all on.

[A]

Yeah. Which is. I would call a T. Okay.

[B]

Wow. And then you. It's all right then. And that goes up to the mailboxes, which the kids crashed into once. Remember that I was telling you about how like on a Friday or Saturday night, they were driving up and down on. In an ATV, gasoline powered and with one light and like 10 teenagers on it, joy riding around.

[A]

Yeah, they're gonna kill themselves.

[B]

Well, apparently they crashed in the mailbox as the whole structure came down. And the guy's like, oh yeah, I'll fix it. And it's still down, you know, it's like one.

[A]

He's a construction guy. Should have fixed it instantly.

[B]

He should have had his kids come around and apologize to all the neighbors here. By the scruff of the neck, we're sorry. No, none of that. So. But this has been going on for a long time up there on that side of the street and you know, shooting off fireworks and all the, all the firework papers get into the neighbor's yard in their pool and they're all upset and they have these dogs and they just let them roam around.

[A]

It's one thing after another with this.

[B]

Family and these dogs that, you know, they're kind of aggressive. And there's a family with kids who live right next door.

[A]

Guys have got guns.

[B]

Well, so Dilbert and his wife, they're retired now.

[A]

Who's Dilbert?

[B]

Okay, Dilbert lives on the street.

[A]

And this is. By the way, I believe this to be a tall tale.

[B]

No, no, this.

[A]

No, it involves somebody named Dilbert.

[B]

When I first met him, because he mows he. Out of the goodness of his heart, he mows the grass to the side of the entire street so that, you know, snakes don't start to live in there and stuff. And so I go out there one day, hey man, how you doing? Let me pitch in for some gas and introduce himself. He's Dilbert and he's retired. And yes, it was hard to suppress the laugh, but that's his name. I mean, there are people named Dilbert. It's. I mean, one of these days I'll say, hey man, how does that feel? Okay, I'll do that. But after the story, you might understand why I don't. So he's an ex Fed. I think he's ex FBI. And I'm not sure his wife is also a federal agent. But of something else. I don't remember nice people. And so he's telling me the other. He's telling me, you know, that dog came out running after my dog. And I went right up to the lady, I'm not going to use her name. And she started screaming at me and yelling about this. And he says, next time your dog comes running, my dog's. I'm gonna shoot it in the face. That was the story. I told you. Disappointed.

[A]

That was it.

[B]

I told you you'd be disappointed. It's better if it's in. If it's in context of something about the neighborhood.

[A]

Well, that was in context about the neighborhood, about the dogs and the whole thing. The guy. So the guy's packing.

[B]

Yes. So imagine me. I'm not going to make fun of his name.

[A]

Well, he's not going to shoot you.

[B]

I don't know. He's ready. Ready to shoot a dog in the face?

[A]

Well, I. From the sounds of it, those dogs should be shot.

[B]

We have secret meetings going on now.

[A]

Yes, that's right. That's the other thing that I forgot to. You're now having secret meetings against the neighbor. I find this to be fascinating.

[B]

It's called an hoa.

[A]

There's no such. You don't have an hoa, though. You're just creating one out of the blue.

[B]

No, we actually do, but it was. Yeah, it went defunct, but everyone had to sign, like the Covenant letter. It's like one of those things, like. Yeah, whatever. No chickens. But there's all kinds of stuff in there.

[A]

You can't have chickens.

[B]

No, no.

[A]

You live in the middle of. You're not even in Fredericksburg. You're in the county. Yeah, but you're in county land. You're out in the middle of nowhere. There's no police jurisdiction. There's nothing going on. And you can't have chickens.

[B]

It's a subdivision. It's a very quiet subdivision until those people moved in. It was very quiet. It was nice.

[A]

Yeah, I guess it would be if no chickens.

[B]

And then we got the other neighbors. They're from Dallas and they took this house and expanded it by three times the size. And they've got this huge gate they put up with huge lamps on the front. We have a dark skies city. City ordinance. That's I mean, it's. It's typical. It's typical rural. I wish I'd won that Powerball. I'd be out of here. Come on, Tina. Let's go. Let's go. Let's buy the ranch. Let's get out of here. It's okay.

[A]

Powerball.

[B]

Everyone's in it. Who won it? Who won that? And someone got at the gas station at Biggs 103. Gas station. Wow. It was like, no one goes to Biggs. We don't go to Biggs. Someone did and I got the Powerball.

[A]

Well, let's start over some clips. I've got one clip that's just a standalone clip that I thought was the best clip that I'm going to have. Well, not really.

[B]

Is it better than my Dilbert story?

[A]

I think it's on par.

[B]

Okay.

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And this just came out and I don't see any news coverage of it. They had a lot of coverage, but it's the latest with Abrego Garcia. It's at the bottom. It's called the wow clip.

[B]

Yeah.

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ICE might be giving criminal illegal immigrant Kilmar Abrego Garcia a new home in a country called Eswatini. That tiny nation sits mostly inside South Africa. Now, the Trump administration settled on that.

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Country after Abrego Garcia's lawyers claimed their.

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Client feared persecution and torture in 22 other countries.

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Christina Coleman is live with the latest on this Christina.

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Hi guy.

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Yeah.

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Initially, the so called Maryland dad, Abrego Garcia was going to be deported to uganda from the U.S. but his lawyers also listed Uganda as a persecution or torture risk for him. Now this adds to their long list of a bunch of other countries they've expressed concern over. Take a look at them. These are all of them. There's a lot of countries they're worried about. In response, a principal legal adviser from ICE and DHS said in a letter to Garcia, quote, that claim of fear is hard to take serious seriously, especially given that you have claimed through your attorneys that you fear persecution or torture in at least 22 different countries. DHS also responded to this. You see it right there writing, quote, homie is afraid of the entire western hemisphere. So now Abrego's new country of removal is Eswatini.

[B]

Man, that place is going to be a tourist destination. Now who had ever heard of it?

[A]

I never heard of it and I.

[B]

Swear. Isn't that where Eddie Murphy came from and coming to America?

[A]

Maybe it's a little enclave country or something. It's like a city state or something.

[B]

It's like Fredericksburg in Texas.

[A]

It's unbelievable. They dug it up because they. This guy didn't want to go to Uganda because the. Uganda's going to want to torture him. They don't have that reputation.

[B]

No.

[A]

And they also made the comment, by the way, they didn't want to send him to a country that he didn't speak the language. Of course. Which is.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And the joke of it is that one of the official languages of the official language of Uganda is there's two of them. Swahili and English.

[B]

Yes, yes. And English with an English accent.

[A]

So. This is ridiculous.

[B]

Well, well, the president is doing a lot of marketing right now and it kind of hit me when with his least most recent. Truth Is Truth. It's kind of. It's kind of amazing how he started that network, which is probably worth negative $5, but somehow the company is. I haven't looked at it. What is the DJT stock at these days? Have you looked at it?

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It's higher than you'd think.

[B]

Oh, no, it doesn't surprise me at all. But it is obvious that, you know, that's. I mean, like what social network is. What is X really worth, you know? Do you ever get ads on X? I never see an ad on X. Yeah, I get. You do?

[A]

Yeah, they're there. They're. They're very well hidden.

[B]

No, I don't see them.

[A]

I mean, you wouldn't know. Their ads are really well done.

[B]

Yeah. Usually in the. In the form of TikTok videos. You keep falling for it.

[A]

No, no, no. There's real ads and they're really well done.

[B]

But. But he's marketing and he's. I think he's marketing because of this issue with the courts saying. And you know, he's going to. He wants it to go to the Supreme Court as soon as possible, saying that, you know, there's no emergency, therefore deporting people under this Emergency Authorization Act. What exactly is it again? I think it's the.

[A]

Do you remember? I can't. It's not the emergency authorization.

[B]

No, but it's a. It's basically. Yeah.

[A]

Some emergency if we're being invaded.

[B]

I think, and I believe that that's why this all fits together.

[C]

An ominous warning from the US President echoing the film Apocalypse now after he rebranded the Department of Def Defense as the Department of War.

[B]

I love the smell of deportations in the morning. So he had.

[A]

That was a good bit.

[B]

He had little helicopters. I think this whole Department of War rebranding is. And you know, he's saying that it's a war and Chicago is a war. I think he's trying to play this off, or that'll be the defense as we've been invaded. It fits together somehow. It's not just.

[A]

Well, you might be onto something. It's possible. The war thing, though, is, like, people making a fuss about this. It was always called the Department of War until after World War II. And what's funny is that one of our producers sent me a link to this guy Lutz, who was a. He's a writer, and he was an expert on doublespeak. And he. And there's a book, you can see it on Amazon, it's very famous, called doublespeak, and. Which is taken from 1984. The idea of creating things that aren't what they sound like. And we've seen that a million times in this country with the naming of bills and legislation. Yes, the Patriot Act.

[B]

Let's just start.

[A]

And it's just the opposite, you know, and it turns out that changing the Department of War right after World War II to the Department of Defense was not only a form of double speak, but won an award for it.

[B]

Oh, like the Austin logo.

[A]

Yeah. Well. Yeah. So. So the. So the Department of Defense is a. Is a form of double speak that should be abolished.

[B]

Is it Double Speak or Newspeak?

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Well, I think. I think he calls it Double Speak. It might be Newspeak. Let me look. Yeah, I don't want to be wrong.

[B]

No. Because then you will get emails.

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I will get an E. No, you'll get emails.

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I'll get your emails. Yes, exactly. John blocked me. Did you look it up?

[A]

Yeah, I'm looking it up By. No, he calls it double Speak. Okay. And the guy's name is. I have it here since I looked it up, and I think it was called doublespeak. Newspeak, I think, is something else.

[B]

Well, Newspeak is what they called it in 1984.

[A]

Okay. Well, double Speak is what it was. William Lutz, and he ran an operation. In fact, he ran the Double Speak conference that met four times a year. They had a magazine and they gave awards out for the best person who did double speak. And his thesis is that it should be resisted because it's a form of dishonesty. And so the Department of Defense is a form of dishonesty?

[B]

Yes. Well, you mean like reproductive health care.

[A]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

All of these terms. Well, let's listen to the rest of this. Maybe we'll pick something up.

[C]

After he rebranded the Department of Defense as the Department of War, I Love.

[B]

The smell of deportations in the morning. Chicago, about to find out why it's called the Department of War.

[C]

Immigration and Customs Enforcement has not confirmed whether it has sent more agents to Chicago. The Governor of Illinois has said that he believes immigration raids would coincide with Mexican Independence Day festivals organized for this weekend and next. Some Mexican festivals in the Chicago area have been called off amid fears of raids. Trump's threats have also prompted many Latino residents to carry their US Passports. Residents of the Democratic stronghold took to the streets in the wake of the president's warnings.

[B]

Every single immigrant is a human. Every single immigrant has every single right to have their families and stay together. We held a rally at Broadview last.

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Week when the cops tried to tell us to leave.

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When ICE tried to tell us to.

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Leave, we stayed and they were forced.

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To accept our presence. Chicago's residents are also bracing for the potential arrival of National Guard troops after the US President announced he decided on another city he plans to send them without specifying where. Trump's troop and federal agent deployments, which started in June in Los Angeles, followed by Washington after Trump declared what he called a crime emergency, viewed by critics politics as an authoritarian display of force. Earlier this week, a federal judge ruled that his administration illegally deployed National Guard troops in Los Angeles amid demonstrations against immigration raids.

[B]

I'm telling you, you'll see, you'll see, this whole Department of War is about because, you know, it's National Guard troops. It's going to be, oh, we're under attack. And then if he's going to say.

[A]

We'Re under attack, we're under an invasion.

[B]

Invasion, yes, well, a form of attack. And by the way, Chicago, this was just a little ditty I picked up. You know, the crime in Chicago. They went looking for one car of some elderly couple, or not even elderly, but they'd been drinking and they were lost. And like, well, let's go see if we can find them in the water.

[C]

Well, they came to Chicago looking for one car, but found 97. Now that dive team is checking license plates and VIN numbers to find out if their haul could lead to any answers. This mangled Nissan is just one of nearly 100 cars the chaos divers discovered in the Chicago River.

[B]

It's not uncommon for us to find vehicles. Heck, that's what we do.

[C]

When they started their search at the Richard J. Daly boat launch near 31st and Western last week, they didn't find just one or two vehicles, but they kept combing the water, ultimately logging down. A lot of these are in piles. We have three piles that are ranging anywhere from 12 to 19 cars in one spot. The independent dive team uses sonar technology to solve missing persons and cold cases. Their goal, to bring closure to families. We are a little bit more interested in those cars. That's kind of the one off where it's just one vehicle by itself because that's going to be more indicative of an accident or even self harm or foul Play.

[B]

Yeah, it's 97. Oh, who knew? It's like I thought the Amsterdam canals were bad when they, you know, dredge up bikes, but 97 vehicles they didn't know about.

[A]

I, I find that peculiar that they were down there that long that they've just all of a sudden stumbled onto them. It's very strange.

[B]

Well, they were looking. Yes, well, but dude, what about these, dude, dude, what about these South Koreans? What a story that is.

[A]

Excellent story.

[B]

Yeah, I have a two parter one with like the headline and then some details which I think are interesting. First, a dramatic scene in the United States.

[A]

A massive immigration rate.

[B]

You always get, somehow I'm always getting better clips from, from the, from the European news outlets. I don't know why that is, but they just have more detail and they still hate Trump and, you know, disdain us, but it's more detail. State of Georgia. Hundreds of federal agents, many masked and.

[A]

Armed, killed workers at a car plant.

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Owned by South Korean manufacturer Hyundai. These evil men, they're masked and armed to LINE UP Nearly 500 people were detained. ICE and Homeland Security were accompanied by.

[A]

The Georgia State Patrol, the FBI, the.

[B]

Dea, the ATF and other agencies in.

[A]

Executing a search warrant.

[B]

I love that, executing a search warrant. They're so dramatic the way they read this. And other agencies in executing all of.

[A]

Them, a search warrant. It is one of the latest raids.

[B]

And the largest yet by the Trump administration's crackdown on immigration.

[A]

Reaction from Seoul, South Korea's Foreign Ministry expressed concern and regret officials to fly to Washington to try and resolve the issues. And this comes after July when South.

[B]

Korea pledged to invest $350 billion in America, including 26 billion by Hyundai alone.

[A]

As part of a trade deal reached.

[B]

With the Trump administration. Before I get into these details, clip some observations. One, isn't this kind of an Asian thing? And I'm not trying to generalize, but I'll do it like, yeah, we're going to invest. It's almost like China. We're going to invest in your country and then we're going to bring in all our own people and they're going to run it.

[A]

I Don't think that's. Well, actually, I was going to defend the Asian people and you said, thinking about it, because there used to be. The Chinese are notorious for doing this and Africa is proof of that. And I was going to defend it, saying it was just the Chinese that we're generalizing from. But in fact, now that I think about it, there used to be things called death buses. And this is when a Japanese company bought an American company and they would have. They run it with American bosses. And then because I knew a guy that was fired during the situation, they fire all the upper management and bring in what are called the death buses, which are buses loaded with Japanese executives who take over the company. So this is. You might be right. You've generalized, but I think you nailed it.

[B]

Well, also, these are contractors. These companies that, you know, they get a contract like bring me a whole bunch of people to run this battery factory and they go and farm them and they, you know, get, I guess, I mean, they just get them in from the, from the White House. They were illegal aliens. And ICE was just doing its job. This is what President Trump said. People on short term or recreational visas are not authorized to work in the U.S. iCE said. And of course, this was necessary to protect American jobs. So clearly. And there's a lot of this, there's so much of this going on, especially in New York in the service sector. But the other thing I noted is where's the protests? Where's people protesting ICE in this? I haven't seen a single protest. Is that because it could be a.

[A]

Function of the state they're in Georgia.

[B]

Is that because they're Asian?

[A]

Well, maybe it's because they're Asian. If you're trying to make the claim that these protesters are a bunch of racist pricks, but it's also possible that Georgia doesn't have a bunch of groups enough oomph to field.

[B]

But all of these protests are organized.

[A]

And they're brought in from out of town.

[B]

But it's not. My point is it's not about kicking people out who are hard workers. It's only about Mexicans or brown people, not the yellow people. Yellow people don't count for these protesters. That's my point.

[A]

You can say that you, you know, if you want to take that generality, you can also point to Harvard, who have, you know, basically kept out Asian students.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. They're happy. They're going after.

[A]

So you're saying that the protesters and the left in general are the Asians.

[B]

They're racist. They're racist. Here's some details. As U.S. immigration and Customs Enforcement conducted their largest ever raid on a single site. I mean this was the largest raid ever. So bigger than anything. No protest. Some tried to flee.

[A]

That's tr.

[B]

I mean, come on. And were fished out of the factory. Oh, this is funny. So they jumped into the water to escape. Parade on a single site.

[A]

Some tried to flee.

[B]

Come on, fellas. And were fished out of the factory's.

[A]

Sewage pond construction so bad you gotta be hard. They think they were gonna go swim into the sewers and maybe come up in somebody's toilet. What were they thinking?

[B]

They're standing there with their phones, you know, calling home base or whatever. Hyundai's massive car battery In Georgia after US authorities arrested 475 people there, most of whom South Korean nationals, accusing them of illegal work. Officials said it was the culmination of a months long investigation.

[A]

This was not a immigration operation where agents went into the premises, rounded up folks and put them on buses. Agents did though go into the premises.

[B]

Round up people and put them on buses. This was the best part of this report. Most were taken to an immigration detention center near Florida. One man who used to work at.

[A]

The site spoke about the fear caused by such operations.

[B]

You know, nobody in America should ever be treated like that or have to work in these kind of conditions.

[A]

It's cool.

[B]

Now that's interesting because they throw this sound bite in and they're making it sound like the guy is saying this is, you know, no one should ever be treated like this. But what he's really saying as far as I can tell, is they were slave workers. If you listen carefully, he's saying no one should be treated like this, like slaves.

[A]

It's possible that what he's talking about, this is an out of context clip.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What he's actually talking about is Hyundai.

[B]

Yeah, precisely. That they were running a civilization.

[A]

But it makes it sound like they're talking about the ICE agents. The ICE agents.

[B]

But no, it's about.

[A]

That's a very. You have to put. That's very. That's a very interesting juxtaposition of dropping in a clip that. That is misleading. Or maybe it was not. Maybe if I'm the editor and I'm saying no, we put it in for the reason you just said, which is that no one should be working under these circumstances in the plant. We're not talking about the ice age.

[B]

Right. But the lead in is a little misleading.

[A]

The lead in is what makes it well played. That whole. You have to play from the lead in. Back to that clip. We have to hear this again.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Rounded up folks and put them on buses. Agents did though into the premises, round.

[B]

Up people and put them on buses. Most were taken to an immigration detention center near Florida. One man who used to work at.

[A]

The site spoke about the fear caused by such operations.

[B]

You know, nobody in America should ever be treated like that or have to work in these kind of conditions. It's cool. See, they make it sound like he spoke about the, the raid, but he didn't. Yeah, he's like, no, nobody should have to work.

[A]

That is a, I, I, I think, yes, this is a misuse of the clip.

[B]

I think they screwed it up.

[A]

An intentional mis, misdirection of a, of a clip that was talking about something else completely different.

[B]

Hey, did you get anything of anyone talking about how horrible that raid was? No, but I got this. Ah, jam it in. You know, nobody in America should ever be treated like that or have to work in these kind of conditions. It's caused uproar in South Korea. At a summit last month, the country pledged $150 billion in US investments, including 26 billion from Hyundai Motor. Indeed, Georgian officials had built the megasite as the biggest single investment in the state's history.

[A]

Economic activities of our companies investing in the United States and the interests of our citizens must not be unduly violated during the course of US Law enforcement.

[B]

Hyundai Motor says it will investigate the.

[A]

Employment practices of its suppliers and subcontractors.

[B]

And bring the site under its full control. Okay, so they're taking a little responsibility, I guess.

[A]

Yeah, they actually, the government. Apologies. I do have the PBS version. I think it's the pbs, actually, we.

[B]

Have, I think we have Korean news report.

[A]

A little news report from them illegal Koreans at factory. Pbs, this is a very short report. Doesn't have anything about standing in the sewer or the sewage or any of the good stuff that your report has. You're absolutely correct. This is lame. This is a lame report.

[B]

The South Korean government is expressing concern and regret over this week's immigration raid at a Georgia Hyundai plant that swept up South Korean nationals. Today, ICE released new video of the operation. It shows agents descending on the site of an electric vehicle battery plant. Nearly 500 workers were lined up, searched and detained, most of them South Koreans. The lead agent for Homeland Security investigations in Georgia claims the detained workers either entered the country illegally, had expired visas, or entered on visas that prohibited them from working. I got a He's from the troll room from Goat. So that it comes with authority. He says, I knew a guy that worked for who Undai in Alabama, and they put padlocks on all the doors until they decided the shift was over. Yeah, that sounds about right. We don't like slavery in America, only in New York City when, you know, we want. We want you to. You want you illegals to clean our house, but that's about it.

[A]

That's terrible.

[B]

Of course it's terrible.

[A]

You get a fire or something, you can't get out.

[B]

Well, God forbid. Anyway, it's always rough, you know, when. When the president promised something and now he's doing it. And Americans don't like. We don't like seeing anyone rousted for anything. But come on, Korea and, And all the. All the M5M is like, oh, South Korea, they're so great. Very democratic country.

[A]

So.

[B]

Yes, yeah. Yes. You've been.

[A]

Till recently they had nothing but fist fights in their legislature.

[B]

Exactly. So democratic. Although we could use some of that here. That would be kind of fun to see. A little bit of that would be nice. Let's see further fallout from RFK Jr. And when I say fallout, as predicted. I think the only thing I've heard anyone talk about is did you see Elizabeth Warren? So I'm glad we played some other clips on the previous episode, but I almost can see this meeting taking place with the fine folks at ABC Good Morning America, where you know that we must have a producer somewhere who works in advertising or sales or advertising. Sales. Television sales. Someone must be aware of these meetings or must. Maybe you work at the. As a. At the reception desk. You must see these advertising executives come in for the meeting. I mean, it's. I can't. Do you think it's just phone calls or zoom. They come in and say, hey, we've got a real problem.

[A]

I'm not sure. It's hard. I don't know.

[B]

We've got a real problem here with RFK Jr. And he's going to cut us out of.

[A]

Well, there was supposedly. There was a. I only saw this written word. There was supposedly a memoir that went out amongst a bunch of executive media executives and legislative types that basically said they have to get rid of this guy and it has to be the pharmaceutical companies worried sick because the promises he's made, which he has not executed has got to have them shaking in their boots and they think now's the time to. One time they maybe didn't get rid of him. Before he puts these in place, he has got to pull the plug on TV Advertising immediately.

[B]

Yeah, well, already the big pharma's advertising on podcasts. I hear it everywhere now, which is fair game, I guess.

[A]

I saw an ad for the COVID vaccine that was. That was for the tick. It was a tiktoker. Yeah, I'm a tiktoker. But I got the COVID vaccine because I did a lot of research and it turns out that is the most important thing you can do is get a booster.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because it was just somebody yakking away because you won't.

[B]

You won't have to go to the hospital. You won't get as sick.

[A]

You won't get as sick. You just get sick. And it's just like it was an obvious. Somebody paid them money. But it's. It's hard to identify some of these. They are, they are spotting. There's a.

[B]

No, but I'm hearing actual like pre roll ads, you know, real dynamic Instagram.

[A]

That's not as insidious.

[B]

No, they're just throwing in ads. Just actual ads. Well, anyway, so Good Morning America, Stephanopoulos and the gang over there and Michael Strahan, they bring in their resident doctor, Dr. Tara Narula. Let me see. I've never actually, I don't know what her credentials are. Tara.

[A]

She's been on quite a few times.

[B]

Now and she's good looking. She's a good looking doctor. But she. Big mistake. She did not wear her. Her uniform. She didn't have a lab coat on. Didn't have a stethoscope wrapped around her neck.

[A]

You need a lab coat and a stethoscope.

[B]

Yeah, that's what If I was an executive, I would. Okay, I want Dr. Tara in there. I want her with the lab coat. I want a stethoscope. She can have her little hospital branding on it. Maybe just do the Austin logo. That'd be cool.

[A]

And.

[B]

But we need her to hit.

[A]

Tag would be nice.

[B]

Yes, Name tag and a slage card. We need her to. We need her to hit all the points now. We need to remind everybody just how. How horrible it was during COVID and that just. We've got to trigger those memories. We got to trigger everybody to get all upset again, obviously to revolt. Revolt against this horrible Kennedy whose whole family has now come out against him as well. You probably. I haven't seen any. I love the Kennedy videos. We don't have any yet because they.

[A]

All talk like that.

[B]

My. My cousin is. Kills children, so they can't get that yet. But here's a Dr. Tara, Chief Medical Correspondent, Dr. Tara Narula and Chief Medical Correspondent, Dr. Nula.

[A]

Let's start with the SC right here.

[B]

Why is it important for kids to get vaccinated?

[A]

What happens if they're not?

[C]

George, it feels like right now it is a chaotic situation. Like, we are unmoored. There is no captain steering the ship.

[B]

You got to listen, you're going to miss.

[A]

Sorry.

[B]

Every second is good. Now we'll stop it. But every second is good.

[C]

And like, we are unmoored, there is no captain steering the ship. And I know there's a lot of misinformation and mistrust, but one thing that should not be under fire is vaccination and the public health story.

[B]

It's the only thing under fire. It's the only thing because of the MRNA gambit.

[C]

But ok, fire is vaccination and the public health story, success that vaccination has been in this country. We know that it has saved millions of lives. We know that it prevents disability from diseases. So we forget. But polio.

[B]

We know that it prevents disability from diseases. I guess that's the polio vaccine that she's talking about.

[A]

I guess I have no idea what she's talking about. For one thing, the only thing under attack is the mRNA. Technology. That's technology, all technology. It's not even a vaccine. And that's what's under attack. And that's what they're trying to protect. Nobody's bitching and moaning. I mean, they complain a little bit about the mumps vaccine or who cares? But that's not what's under attack. Millions of lives, let's be honest about it.

[C]

We know that it prevents disability from diseases, so we forget. But polio can cause paralysis. Measles can lead to brain inflammation. So if you get sick, it can end up resulting in complications.

[B]

I don't think Kennedy has at any point. In fact, quite the opposite, I think he said. Yeah, mmr, you know, if you want to get that, that's okay. Polio. I don't think he's had any. He said anything about that, has he?

[A]

That I know of.

[B]

No.

[C]

We have vaccines for cancer, hpv and what?

[B]

We got vaccines for cancer. I must have missed the memo.

[C]

Complications. We have vaccines for cancer, HPV and hepatitis.

[A]

No, HPV is a cancer. That's what they're talking about.

[B]

Yeah. Okay. Another big success.

[C]

Vaccines for cancer, HPV and hepatitis. We need vaccinations to protect the vulnerable, the ill, the immunocompromised children. Right. So it is so important that we not forget the powerful impact and I think I know it's easy as we, you know.

[B]

Okay, here she goes. Now the script is, it's so easy to forget. Remember, remember, remember. It's so easy to forget the impact of vaccines. Come on. I'm gonna. I'm gonna pull. I'm gonna pull you right back into the past five years.

[C]

Right? So it is so important that we not forget the powerful impact. And I know it's easy as we, you know, live in a world where we don't see infectious diseases that much, but we don't have to look far back to Covid a couple years ago, and we can see how one virus, one vulnerability, one virus can impact us. Not to mention the economic impact of hospitalizations, doctors, costs, lost wages. But I think that personalization, remembering the lives that we all saw lost. I remember the freezer trucks behind Lenox Hill Hospital where I worked, filled with bodies.

[B]

No, there was no.

[A]

That was a lie.

[B]

No bodies in the freezer. Freezer trucks. Zero bodies. That's what I mean. So she's like, you know, loss of lost wages. The economic impact was so horrible. We had freezer trucks filled with bodies. No, they were empty.

[C]

Personalization, remembering the lives that we all saw lost. I remember the freezer trucks behind Lenox Hill Hospital where I worked, filled with bodies. Patients saying goodbye on iPads. Let us not forget the toll that can happen, the immeasurable loss and suffering when we let our guard down.

[B]

Disgusting. She is. This is a. This is a psychological operation, and she is executing it.

[A]

That serious impact on public health.

[B]

And given what's happened with some states, they're pushing to make vaccines more accessible. In Florida, they're accessible to remove vaccine mandates. So we may just be looking at patchworks right here. Stranahan says about making vaccines more accessible, but Florida is. Removing all mandates has nothing to do with accessibility. They're just twisting words with some states. They're pushing to make vaccines more accessible. In Florida, they're moving to remove vaccine mandates. So we may just be looking at a patchwork of states with different, you know, protocols, different policies. Yeah, this is. This is where it's all headed. Everyone's gonna have their own gang.

[C]

That's the right word, I think. A patchwork, and it's a fractured approach that we really have. Haven't seen right now in this country before. And unfortunately, we are seeing exactly that. Florida sort of stepping backwards with their mandates, the Northwest and the Northeast forming alliances. But the reality is, Michael, vaccines don't know borders. They don't know the difference between Texas and Washington.

[B]

No, that's not true. We stopped the viruses from Washington state right at our Texas border. We don't allow it to come in. Is not going to happen.

[C]

Even though you're vaccinated, it's not perfect so you can still get sick. So you know it's going to be a tough situation. We.

[B]

What did she just say?

[A]

It's not perfect by too. She blew it by.

[B]

Yeah, it's not perfect. Even though you're vaccinated, you can still get sick. Not a vaccine.

[C]

Then they don't know the difference between Texas and Washington. And even though you're vaccinated, it's not perfect so you can still get sick. So in you know it's going to be a tough situation. We may see the rise of groups like the Vaccine Integrity Program that's now.

[B]

Coming out of Minnesota, also known as vip. I got a great name for our Vaccine Integrity Program. We'll call it that. It's vip. Sounds important to kind of fill in.

[C]

These gaps in the science because people feel lost. Now for where to turn. I can't help but follow the money here. And you have to wonder if the removal of a mandate potentially takes takes the insurance companies off the hook for reimbursements here. There's absolutely going to be ripple effects. Rebecca. We have a signal that private insurance companies for now will continue to cover but the big concern is around Medicare, Medicaid vaccines, old people seen fund for children.

[B]

Now hold on. This makes no sense because it is recommended for people on Medicare. It's recommended 65 plus. So that's not true. And she said oh no, the. Well, the insurance company.

[A]

Yeah. If you're 65 when you'd be get on. You don't get on Medicare before you're 65. They just. You can't Medicare and boom. Do you get the check boxes there? And so they get that. They pick up the tab. So what are they talking about? They're lying to you.

[C]

Big concern is around Medicare, Medicaid vaccines, the vaccine fund for children. Those who are getting free vaccines. What will happen to their coverage for vaccination?

[A]

You talked about gaps in the science but. But the basic science about vaccines is pretty clear, right?

[B]

Vaccines are safe.

[A]

They are effective. Effective. They should be used by kids.

[C]

George, the science has not changed. The science doesn't change. What changes?

[B]

What is she talking about? The science doesn't change.

[A]

Are safe. They are effective. They should be used by kids.

[C]

George. The science has not changed. The science doesn't change. What changes is how we interpret it. Our Policy. The science has not changed.

[B]

Science never changes people. It never changes. That's what science is not changing ever. That's what I mean, it's like.

[A]

Yeah, tell it to Copernicus.

[B]

Copernicus would tell us the story of Copernicus. What was he like?

[A]

He's an old Pollock. What are you going to do?

[B]

Well, tell us the story of Copernicus.

[A]

He's the inventor of modern astronomy. I mean, he's basically the one who decided there's a solar system.

[B]

Right. So you were saying that he changed the science.

[A]

Well, yep, because before that there was no such thing. The Earth was in the center of the universe and everything spun around the Earth because it was, you know, God's creation and everything else was bull crap. There's a lot of just dots in the sky.

[B]

Why do I think that was Galileo?

[A]

Galileo discovered the. Galileo took it to the extreme because he actually proved it.

[B]

Ah, he proved the science.

[A]

Well, he had his telescope. Copernicus is just ad libbing.

[B]

He was just faking it till he made it. I am Copernicus. Fake it till I made it.

[A]

Let's take a look at. Let's. Let's get this straight. Since we're here, why don't you ask your friend?

[B]

Yes, my girl. Yes.

[A]

What is the difference between Copernicus and Galileo and what they discovered?

[B]

Okay. Error. What is the difference between Copernicus. What is the difference between Copernicus and Galileo?

[C]

Nicolos Copernicus and Galileo Galilei were both giants in astronomy, but they played different roles in the shift from Earth centered to sun centered. Models. Models. Copernicus, back in the early 16th century, proposed the heliocentric theory. Sun at the center, Earth and planets orbiting around it. His book Practice laid the groundwork, but was cautious, avoiding direct clashes with the church. Galileo, a century later, took it further by using a telescope to observe Jupiter's moons and Venus's phases.

[B]

Okay, got it.

[A]

Exactly what I said.

[C]

Hi there. You all right?

[B]

Yeah, I'm fine. Fine. Yeah, exactly what you said. Okay.

[A]

So the science. The point was, is that the science changed.

[B]

Yeah, the science changed. And this will probably be used against RFK now that he's, you know, defunded all MRNA research. All of it. Oh. The Russians are moving ahead.

[C]

While Russia is gearing up to treat cancer patients with what could become one of the world's first personalized MRNA cancer vaccines, a treatment tailored to each patient's unique tumor. The announcement marks a key moment in what's shaping up to be a global race to beat cancer using next Gen technology. According to Russian news outlets, Russia's first patients could begin receiving the newly manufactured, newly developed cancer vaccine within the next few months.

[B]

So they're talking about a vaccine, MRNA vaccine. But I wish they would just be honest and call it gene therapy because you already have the cancer. You already have the cancer. It's not stopping you.

[A]

I wonder. Yeah, you already have the cancer. So what kind of a vaccine is it? I right. It's a therapy. I don't know what. They can't do that because of the liability situation and the indemnification. So you just call everything a vaccine. So he can't get sued for making crap for producing a genuinely bad, bad product. So I'm surprised by this because the Russians are the ones who eschewed to use that word. I hate to. Yes, we know what eschewed means. The MRNA to begin with.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, but this is maybe a troll from Russia. Who knows?

[A]

I think it's a troll. Whole story's a troll.

[B]

But of course, ultimately this whole Covid thing is. Is really about. Well, it's actually two things. One is they don't want MRNA to be outed as gene therapy. They want to continue to call it a vacc. So they commingle it with all kinds of other vaccine stories and nonsense. And it's really. When they talk about accessibility, this is probably, I don't know, can you get the MMR vaccine from the pharmacy?

[A]

Do you know that's the problem? Because the pharmacies want to be able to give you the shudders for what was a walk in.

[B]

Yes, and that's the problem. This is a report from Virginia.

[C]

It used to be able to easily walk to your local pharmacy get a COVID vaccine, but with new FDA regulations, it might not be as simple in the future. Patients who are normally able to just may walked over to their local pharmacy to get these vaccines now have to call the doctor's office. Dr. Marcia Newby Goodman from primary care specialist says new COVID vaccine regulations could create more hurdles for anyone looking to get the vaccine.

[B]

I'm looking for the vaccine, so there's.

[C]

A lot of work on both the.

[B]

Patients pharmacies, people on the street. Hey. Hey, brother. Hey brother, are you holding.

[A]

Shoot me up.

[B]

Can you shoot me up, brother?

[C]

A lot of work on both the patients pharmacies and doctor offices. The next round of COVID vaccines was approved by the FDA on Wednesday, but limited availability to people 65 and older or anyone with a high risk for the sickness. Now, Virginia is one of several states requiring A prescription for the vaccine. At local pharmacies, they're putting a lot of layers to prevent people from getting the vaccine.

[B]

A lot of layers. There's one layer you got to get a prescription. That's not a lot of layers.

[C]

According to the CDC, so far, during.

[A]

20 get there, there's a lot of layers. You got to get a.

[B]

You gotta.

[A]

You gotta get it first. Get it first. You gotta make the appointment to get the prescription. Then you gotta get the prescription. They got to pick up the prescription. Then you got to go to the. Then you got to find your way to the pharmacy, and you got to tell them there's a prescription that you send in or you have to bring the prescription if you have it by hand. That's a lot of layers.

[B]

Hold on. Can I get a prescription for the COVID vaccine through telemedicine? Let's see. That would be the answer. Doesn't say per se.

[A]

Did you ask your girl?

[B]

Nah, I'm tired of my girl. Now, generally, you cannot get a prescription for COVID vaccine through telemedicine. Not yet.

[C]

According to the CDC, so far, during 2024, 20, more than 1.3 million Virginians received a COVID vaccine in the state. Nearly 800,000 of those people under the age of 65. That's why Dr. Anna Peeples from People's Pharmacy says new restrictions could be problematic. Those of us that have really benefited from receiving the COVID vaccine, then it.

[B]

Makes it more difficult.

[C]

People's Pharmacy does administer the COVID vaccine, but like other pharmacies in Virginia, in order to get the shot, you'll need a prescription from your doctor. Even with these new requirements, Dr. Peoples and Dr. Newby Goodman say with the current guidelines, it's still possible to get the vaccine, but you might need to jump through the hoops to get it.

[B]

And I just feel. So we should write down the names of all of these ghouls, because if your information diet, if your news diet is what it is for a lot of people in America. America, then you're just getting psyoped every single day. I mean, we have family members.

[A]

Really?

[B]

We have family members. Now listen, we have family members who have had five boosters after the. And. And now have Covid again.

[A]

Safe and effective again.

[B]

But it's not funny anymore because, you know, you see. Well, not to you, but no, because I love them. I love my family members. And you say, hey, you know, maybe you should stop with these boosters for your immune system. No, no, no, no. And by the way, every single time I get Covid. I'm definitely not as sick as I would have been. This is the answer.

[A]

That's a classic.

[B]

But it's.

[A]

There's actually, no, that's not.

[B]

It's super sick because. And. And they're hearing this from their doctor, their doc, you know, and it. It hurts my heart when I. When I hear this. Like, ah. And, you know, you can send them ivermectin and they'll roll their eyes at you. You.

[A]

Oh, no, I think you're nuts. That's toxic.

[B]

They already think, yeah, it's horse dewormer. I know, but it's just. It's. It's incredibly sad that. That this is.

[A]

Well, I don't know how you can say this. I don't know how you can say this is an op. Because I watched the entire PBS news hour on yesterday and Saturday, and they didn't have one story about. About the Vax. Although I will say they ended the show. They ended the show. So with this vax, pbs, straight plug.

[B]

Oh, boy. They went straight forward, huh? Now online, with the CDC in turmoil and fall approaching, we give you helpful tips on where and how to get COVID vaccinations. All that and more is on our website, PBS.org NewsHour Wow.

[A]

And then they close the show. That is amazing to me. Wow.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Because they didn't have any stories on it, so they decided to put it in any.

[B]

Why didn't they have any stories on it? It was. It was the news story of the week.

[A]

No, they were talking about Kennedy. Get rid of Kennedy. It was more important to get rid of Kennedy.

[B]

That's a backstory. That. That's it.

[A]

Yeah, but it wasn't the same as telling people to get the booster.

[B]

Well, let's do some PBS Kennedy stuff. You haven't.

[A]

I've got some pbs.

[B]

You do not. You have Kennedy pvs. I don't know what that is.

[A]

You know what you're. You know what I've got here? This is the attack just about the CDC and Kennedy. And this is more about Kennedy's, you know, battle with the cdc. Let's listen to these.

[B]

Turmoil at the cdc. The debate over the federal government's vaccine policy remains as contentious as ever. Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. S combative appearance on Capitol Hill this week did little to clear up the issue. He was pressed by senators of both parties, including two Republicans. Republicans or physicians. Now, some states are taking matters into their own hands. They're forming alliances to review scientific data and make their own vaccine recommendations. Yeah, this is the, this is the term. Alliance. Alliances. This is what everyone's using. We're forming an alliance, a front. We are the resistance. Le partisans. Yes.

[A]

Alliance.

[B]

The Democratic governors of California, Oregon and Washington were the first act. They were joined the next day by Hawaii. Earlier I spoke with Hawaii Governor Josh Green, a Democrat who's a physician. Because everything went so well with COVID in Hawaii.

[D]

We are in a great time of crisis as far as public health goes. Right now the HHS administration led by Mr. Kennedy is in disarray and it's causing a lot of concern across the country. We need to have good science. We need data based science.

[B]

We need evidence. We need data based science. This is good. This is a neut term. It's evidence based science, but now it's database.

[A]

Database science. Database.

[B]

He said it with a D. Data based.

[A]

What he said what he said.

[B]

He didn't say database.

[A]

He said data based database.

[B]

Yeah, database with a D at the end. Data based science.

[A]

Data based database.

[D]

Yeah, listen, is in disarray and it's causing a lot of concern across the country. We need to have good science. We need data based science.

[B]

Oh, database, okay. I thought it was talking about a database and you need to be in the database.

[D]

We need evidence based science. And so my good friends, the three governors from the west coast formed this alliance. And I had a lot of experience as a physician and the person who dealt with COVID in Hawaii as lieutenant governor, so it just made a lot of sense. But we're going to try to guide the country in a positive way, just non politically, but in a way that helps us, you know, protect lives.

[B]

They want data based science. Science. Isn't that the evidence that is being shown? We have data.

[A]

You have to ignore the fake evidence and use the evidence that says what you want it to say.

[B]

Well, there it is.

[A]

Well, this guy gets better.

[B]

How are you going to develop the recommendations? Who's going to do that?

[D]

This will be from scientific experts. Our expectation is we will use a lot of the people that have been around for several years doing the job under Republicans and Democrats in different administrations. Bring back Fauci, people who are trained pediatricians and infectious disease experts. It's very likely some of the people that have recently been pushed out of the CDC or the special committees, they may very well wanna come aboard. We also have directors of health in our own states that are our thoughtful public health leaders. All these people will contribute.

[B]

Hey, we are thoughtful public health leaders. If you want to talk about credentials, I mean, what is a Thoughtful.

[D]

Our thoughtful.

[A]

You have to be thoughtful.

[B]

I'm thoughtful. I'm a thoughtful public health leader.

[D]

Our thoughtful public health leaders. All these people will contribute. Plus, we'll do what you should do, which is rely on things like the National Pediatric association, internal medicine associations, and all of these individuals that have given us the right guidance to keep disease at a minimum, to prevent outbreaks like measles and mumps and polio. Because I tell you, it's very, very disconcerting right now to see what's happening. Not only are they dismantling what will be good advice, but they're kind of giving license to other states to go rogue. And that's what you're seeing in Florida. They're going to pretty much move straight away from science, and they're going to allow people to do whatever they want, which is going to cause outbreaks when people don't get vaccinated.

[B]

Okay, first of all, I love the car honk. That's a good new sound effect. Second of all, what happened to the measles outbreak? Did it just die off? How come we're not all suffering from measles? What happened to the outbreak? Remember the outbreak?

[A]

It died off. It was just what happens. You get the measles, then you get over it.

[B]

Yes. Yeah. And one unfortunate child died, which could.

[A]

Have been from anything other than measles, probably some comorbidities.

[D]

I'd be remiss if I didn't say that none of this would be necessary if RFK Jr would just step down, step down and allow someone with a scientific background to run that department. Because right now you are seeing the great dismantling of public health in America. And we'll do our part to build it up.

[B]

This is. I think this is another one, the great dismantling of public health in America because it's worked so great. Everything's peachy keen. It's just fine.

[D]

We'll do our part to build it up, but this could be a bumpy couple years, and we're hopeful that this will give people an opportunity to see what the right science recommendations and.

[B]

No. You were lieutenant governor when the pandemic began. You became governor in 2022. Hawaii had one of the highest vaccination rates and one of the lowest mortality rates during that time. Are there lessons that can be learned from that for other states or for the federal government? Is that true?

[A]

I couldn't find out. I looked and looked and looked. I tried to get this because I wanted to have a slam dunk, like a refutation But I couldn't find anything. So I don't know if it was true or. Or not. It doesn't mean that the vaccine didn't kill a lot of people. They're just talking about what was happening. But. But then again, they didn't block their beaches like they did in California. They let. People were out and about, but you couldn't even fly.

[B]

You couldn't even fly to Hawaii. Remember, they locked everybody out.

[A]

Yeah, they had. It was screwy. I. We had to. I'm not convinced that what he says is, is.

[B]

Well, according to. What is this from? This is from Global Health. While Hawaii generally managed COVID 19 deaths effectively means they kill people really quickly compared to other states. It's important to note that native Hawaiians and Pacific Islanders experience some of the highest COVID 19 death rates amongst racial and ethnic groups in the United States. Hmm.

[A]

Kill the Hawaiians themselves.

[D]

Absolutely.

[A]

Hawaii has a population of 1.4 million total, something like that. It's very small country state. I mean, compared to California, which is 40 million. I mean, it's ridiculous.

[D]

Absolutely. What we did was we just expressed in a fair way to everyone what their options were. It wasn't about mandates, it wasn't about anything that would scare people like you're seeing come from RFK Junior. What it just was good science. As a physician, I was able to express what I learned as a family practice physician how you would best protect yourself. We went analytically one community by the next, and, and what we saw was when people knew that they would have a lower mortality rate, death rate by getting vaccinated, they made a good choice. So that's the way it's got to go. So we should give credit to the president for his work in his first term on the production of the MRNA vaccine. And we should also make sure that this is not a political question so that everyone can get access to that vaccination if they want it, if their doctors recognize, recommend it. And the same can be said for other research because they're.

[B]

Hold on a second. First of all, access is not cut off. And if their doctor recommends it, you can get it with a prescription. Is that not the same as a doctor recommendation?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

Move to move away from bird flu research and MRNA research. That means people will not get vaccinations in the next iteration, which by the way, is a national security threat. If only China gets the vaccination, say the next time, what's happen going to happen?

[B]

Yeah, we're all going to die. China. Oh, there it is.

[A]

He's talking about the bird. He's talking about taxpayer funding of research that benefits the big pharma companies that have more than enough money in profits every year. Billions and billions and billions of dollars that they can invest in research if it's that important. That's what he's talking about.

[B]

Well, how about this? If everyone is so sure that it's not a matter of when, but if I would totally, if you and I are running Pfizer, be like, hey, hey, hey, Dr. Dvorak. So I'm pretty. I'm like, really sure it's not a matter of when, but if so, we better have that thing to make a bundle and we'll give it to ourselves first. So we outlive everybody.

[A]

That's what you do.

[B]

That's what I'd be doing.

[D]

When we have to worry about some terrible virus or even, God forbid, an attack of some sort. You know, these are real issues for we governors and senators, Senators and presidents. And so it's a colossal mistake, what they're doing, and we're just trying to fill in the gap until there's a new leadership.

[B]

What does it say, the fact that you and your fellow governors on the west coast feel the need for this? Okay, I'm sorry to stop it again, until there's new leadership. Is this a foregone conclusion? Or is he talking about in three years from now?

[A]

Or is like he's talking about getting rid of Kennedy.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

And presidents. And so it's a colossal mistake what they're doing, and we're just trying to fill in the gap until there's a.

[B]

New leadership and get rid of Kennedy. What does it say, the fact that you and your fellow governors on the west coast feel the need for this alliance? What does that say about the state of public health in this country?

[D]

Well, the state of public health is a cataclysmic disaster right now because of Mr. Kennedy's leadership. Now, let me be nice here for a moment. Mr. Kennedy could very well have something to offer the president and the country in the areas of processed foods or new nutrition or pesticide use. I appreciate that, but because he's so divisive and because he has a political axe to grind with vaccinations, we have a full schism, a true divide in our country. And it tells you that there are two camps. Those who will follow science and those who will follow politics. Trump and those who will follow politics are currently in charge of the Department of Health and Human Services. And it will kill people.

[B]

Kill people.

[A]

It will kill People kill people.

[D]

You've already seen some fatalities from this big measles outbreak. And believe me, in year two and three of this second administration, it's gonna get very bad. So Mr. Kennedy's not doing the President any favors at all. I've had very good conversations with leaders at every level in the federal government, including the President, and I am expressing this openly, that he should move Mr. Kennedy to a different place in the government. If he wants to keep him, that's okay. And put in someone that aligns with him politically, perhaps conservatively, but follows science.

[B]

Hold on a second. Kennedy is a Democrat, does not align politically or even at a human level at times with President Trump.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So this is nonsense and they can work.

[A]

Total nonsense. It's ludicrous.

[D]

With Kennedy on some of these nutrition issues, that's fine. But our health is at stake in our country, especially for our children, especially for children who are not even yet of age to get some of the vaccines, vaccinations. It's going to be really bad. And it's going to be worst in the states that are rural, that are poor, that don't have access to healthcare providers at all, which, by the way, happened to be the President's base, as ironic as that might be.

[B]

Yeah, but we win Powerball, bro. So, okay, so don't worry about us. We're good. We got Powerball in Texas. Oh, man. And again, it's the sad part is, is that these people. Did he have a lab coat on?

[A]

No, no. He is just a doofus governor looking guy. Very. He was very, very Casper Milquetoast type.

[B]

People really buy into this, you know, they really do.

[A]

Well, yes. That's what you were bitching about a minute ago. And I think, yeah, that's one of the things that makes the show that we do kind of valuable.

[B]

Valuable.

[A]

Valuable is very valuable. The show was valuable. And people should appreciate the fact that at least we're giving a perspective that is not bought and paid for by big pharma. That's all there is to it. That's all there is to it.

[B]

And that's only because we won Powerball. We have nothing to lose.

[A]

Nobody's won Powerball in this family.

[B]

So another, you know, I figured out.

[A]

There'S many tickets as I buy. If I don't buy any tickets, I have the same odds of winning.

[B]

True. Then there's this other issue which is another big government movement which has been taking place around the world since the 60s, maybe even the 50s. But the 60s, certainly in the 70s got really big. And it came back with a vengeance during the course of the past 18 years of this program. And so now there's a new report saying that climate change, it's not all that big a deal. And boy, we got a few fight that. Department of Ecology is urging the federal government to withdraw its latest climate change report, saying it's inaccurate and ignore science. The US Department of Energy's report claims that warming temperatures due to greenhouse gases are less damaging than believed. It also downplays links between climate change.

[A]

And extreme weather events, heat, wildfires and drought. The Department of Ecology says the report.

[B]

Is harmful to communities seeing the impacts firsthand.

[C]

Denying climate change by cherry picking a few pieces of data won't alter the.

[B]

Reality that we are experiencing on the.

[C]

Ground where our communities and ecosystems are really experiencing the damage firsthand.

[B]

Right now is the comment period on the draft report. Dozens of climate scientists have weighed in.

[A]

With one saying the report quote, makes.

[B]

A mockery of science. It makes a mockery of science. So we have the only 100 degree day we've seen in Texas this entire summer. Summer was Friday and it was in Austin, not here. Our grass is green. It's been raining again for two days and we're getting a cold snap starting Wednesday. Cold snap starting Wednesday.

[A]

There was something coming down from Canada supposed to hit a lot of Texas.

[B]

Not just Texas, all of, all of middle America.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And of course at the end of the year you can already predict it. Well, 2025 was the hottest ever record. Hottest ever. We're boiling over here. And where's all the horrible hurricanes? Is this is the season?

[A]

Oh, it's going to be the worst season ever.

[B]

Ah, do we have a. We, we should probably, I should probably start tagging.

[A]

We gotta start saving those clips. They always show up at the beginning of the season.

[B]

Here we go. This is, this is from August.

[C]

The Atlantic hurricane season is entering its peak months. The national oceanic and Atmospheric Administration released its final outlook for 20245 yesterday. The agency says climate conditions are tracking with their original prediction from May, but with slightly less confidence. There is now a 50% chance of an above normal hurricane season. Above normal, down from 60% in May. Federal forecasters expect a range of 13 to 18 total named storms, including two to five major hurricanes. So far there have been four named tropical stories. Storms and no hurricanes.

[B]

That's an entirely new metric. We'll have a four. We'll have a whole bunch of named storms. Well, Kiko is a named storm which is supposedly coming towards Hawaii so they can name it. But 13 to 18. What have we had this year?

[A]

Two or three.

[B]

I mean, real hurricanes.

[A]

Oh, no. Hurricanes. I mean, there was one. There was one out in the middle of the Atlantic that never. That threw a bunch of rain, but.

[B]

It was 100 miles, not a hurricane.

[A]

It got to a 4 or 5, but it was out in the middle of nowhere.

[B]

Didn't move. Didn't move the needle, man. Didn't move the needle. Tell me. So, you know, we've been laughing about CBS and Paramount about this deal with the Ellison kid. What's the kid's name?

[A]

David, I think.

[B]

Yeah. David Ellison. Skydance. So. So the first article that came out. When did this come out? September 4th. So according to people familiar with the matter, CBS or Paramount, Skydance, whatever you want to call it, has purchased Bari Weiss's Free Press. The Free press, yeah.

[A]

For 100 million to $200 million.

[B]

And apparently they're going to make her a big wig at CBS News.

[A]

They're thinking of giving her the executive job at CBS News.

[B]

And I. And I thought that. And you know. And Tina and I were talking about it. That's actually kind of interesting. That may change the way they do news. That could. Think that could be kind of interesting. And then. But then I got this next report, which now, of course, I have to get from the Wayback Machine because Wall Street Journal gives you a readable copy, and then it takes it away. Here we go.

[A]

You should download.

[B]

I should download. So Skydance chief executive David Ellison, I guess he had a dinner party. He had a dinner party. And the dinner guests put forward ideas to bring back MTV the way it was.

[A]

What, the original mtv?

[B]

Yeah. Playing music videos.

[A]

Oh, brother. Yeah, that's gonna go over.

[B]

And he's like, oh, this is a great idea. This is very interesting.

[A]

Good.

[B]

I think we should do this, like. Okay. A exit strategy for Adam.

[A]

Hey, Adam's out of here.

[B]

Hey, it's Boomer tv, everybody. How you doing? Let's play some old David Bowie videos. They are literally talking about bringing back old MTV segments and interviews. I'll be famous again. I got to grow my hair so people recognize me on the street.

[A]

You can get it. Hey, wigs.

[B]

I mean, so I can tell you unequivocally that people of the Gen X, Generation X and some boomers. Yeah, they all enjoyed a very special time. And, you know, hey, man, what happened to mtv? Why don't they play videos anymore, man?

[A]

Okay, well, because nobody says that they.

[B]

Made 10 times as much by putting on reality shows. You a lot more that was where the money is and that's why they did that. Oh, okay. Well, thanks, MTV for 12 years of music in your 50 year history. Yeah, that was a great time and we all shared that. You can't bring that back. You can't. That's. That's. That is really. We think maybe I'm reading from the Wall Street Journal, we think that MTV could become the music taste maker. Except again, music pacemaker maybe. But I did that on the fly. On the fly. That is pure comedic stylings. He aims to keep and revitalize networks like mtv, Comedy Central and Nickelodeon as part of a revamp of the struggling entertainment company. And he wants to keep it on cable. What is wrong with this picture?

[A]

Oh, that. This is just publicity for the whole thing. There's. They're not going to do any of this. That.

[B]

Well, what is he. What is he going to do with it?

[A]

The Barry Weiss thing is. Right. I think they're going to do. They're going to try to make, you know, Paramount, they're going to Sky Dance, which is actually produced some pretty good movies. I can't name them, but every time I see one. No, every time I watch a movie that's decent, I see the Skydance logo come by. I think that's interesting. They got the. Definitely have the right Winger, you know, dad, Larry Ellison.

[B]

Larry.

[A]

And you have to assume the substance.

[B]

Okay, well, hold on a second. Let's just look at these pretty good movies. Terminator, Genesis, Terminator, Terminator, Dark, Fake, Fate, the Tomorrow War, Top Gun. Okay, that was a good one.

[A]

Top Gun. Now there was that movie saved that movie saved the industry.

[B]

Transformers, Rise of the Beasts, Mission Impossible, Rogue, Knight Nation.

[A]

Another one, another killer.

[B]

Star Trek Into Darkness, World War Z. I think that was a dud. Jack Reacher. That's big. And the Old Guard. Okay, well, so they have some hits.

[A]

They have some hits in there.

[B]

Talk to Brunetti about that. He'll know. He'll know if they actually made money on it.

[A]

Yeah, I'll ask him. Actually, I do have to ask him something about making money.

[B]

Anyway, so instead of green lighting the next seasons of popular BET originals, that's Black Entertainment Television. Like Terry Tyler Perry's Divorced Sisters, which apparently is a hit.

[A]

Yes, Divorced Sisters.

[B]

The. The. The former Netflix executive who now heads streaming at Paramount Skydance, Cindy Hall Holland has floated the idea of asking the creator to make originals that would cost more than $7 million an episode, which is double what these shows typically cost. Can you believe that? They're paying three and a Half million dollars for an episode of Divorced Sistas?

[A]

That's too high.

[B]

It's way too high. That makes sense.

[A]

If they're paying more than a million, it should be the most that anyone should pay for to produce a TV show is a million bucks. Bucks.

[B]

And they paid Perry. They're paying him $200 million a year to make shows.

[A]

Well, he should just be fired. There's some cost cutting people.

[B]

That's amazing. I, I just don't see how, how, how they can keep these cable shows and make them work. And they want to keep it on cable. They want to revive cable. I just don't see it.

[A]

Well, maybe the whole thing's a disaster.

[B]

Feels like it. The kid, he's a millennial. He's like, yeah. You look at him like, okay, you know, you got Irving Azoff and the guys from Universal Music at the dinner table. Hey, let's make MTV great.

[A]

It's the music guys that want to revive mtv.

[B]

I was just like, no.

[A]

I wonder if we can sucker this stupid kid into doing this. What do you think?

[B]

I need a call with him.

[A]

I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what. You bring it up. You bring it up and I'll jump in and say what a great idea it is, and then we'll go from there.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And that's the kind of thing you and I would do.

[B]

Think of the merch, David. Think of the merch. Think of the merch. Sales. Hey, I need a call with David. With David Ellison. Hey, man, bring me back. Bring me back for Headbangers Ball, man. I'll bring hundreds of thousands of people.

[A]

Watch with half of them with Walkers.

[B]

Watch Ricky Rackman to get the gig. Oh, man, it's just too funny. It's like, no, that doesn't feel like a strategy to me. Would they pay for it? 7 billion? 8 billion?

[A]

No. I don't know what your friend right there can answer instantly.

[B]

Yeah, he's. Oh, my friend right here. Error. You think she can answer?

[A]

Yeah, she'll know.

[B]

Okay. How much did Skydance pay for Paramount?

[A]

That take?

[B]

Take.

[C]

Skydance shelled out $8 billion total for Paramount. 1.75 to buy National Amusements outright, then another chunk to wipe out debt and sweeten the deal for shareholders. Whole thing closed just last month, though it felt like forever with all the FCC drama.

[B]

I don't need you to editorialize, okay?

[A]

She had to go into some other stuff. I don't need to editorialize. This is too short an easy answer. I can just answer the question. Or I can answer the question and embellish it. We don't need the embellishment.

[B]

We don't. Okay. $8 billion. It just doesn't feel right to me. Meanwhile, the best idea ever for cable, no one wanted to bite. And that was our podcast channel, which was a great idea.

[A]

It still is.

[B]

Yeah, but no one wants to do it. No one wants to.

[A]

You know, that's just a head. Typical.

[B]

You're you.

[A]

Actually, any idea that involves you is typically 10 years, I'd say five to 10 years ahead of its time.

[B]

Yeah, I know. And then I sit on the podcast bitching and moaning about having no money.

[A]

Then you complain. Yeah, that's exactly right. But that's just. That's your. That's your lot.

[B]

That's. Yeah, that is. That is my lot. I'm going to.

[A]

Yeah, you're stuck with it.

[B]

Yes, I will turn into salt.

[A]

Turn into pink salt and get rid of that stubborn belly fat.

[B]

So there's a big, big couple of lawsuits actually involving AI, which are quite interesting and predicted by Professor Dvorak.

[C]

We are getting some news on Anthropic. Mackenzie Sagalo says that for us. Hey, Mac. Hey, Leslie. So there is a new filing in the class action lawsuit against Anthropic. They are going to pay $1.5 billion to settle a copyright case that was brought by authors who said that the AI startup downloaded millions of possible pirated books. Now, the company had faced the risk of more than $1 trillion in damages if they didn't settle. A San Francisco judge does still need to approve the deal. Anthropic deputy general counsel telling me in a statement that this case established a key legal precedent, saying that in June the district court issued a landmark ruling on AI development and copyright law, finding that anthropic approach to training AI models constitute fair use. Now that is a big win for the AI industry, Leslie. It's a pretty large amount for what is a four year old company there. Mackenzie, thanks for staying on top of that for us.

[B]

1.5 billion agreement. Okay. All right. And who's.

[A]

Where's my. I, you know, I guarantee I did 12 tech books on. You know, I got the PC telecommunications book. I did two versions of that. I got online the book. I got a bunch of other books. Where's my $3,000 book? A book. How do I get it? I know that they scan those books and they. Why wouldn't you?

[B]

Well, who gets the 1.5 billion? That was completely unclear.

[A]

It would. I would. The way I, I read the story and it turns out that you. That the authors or the publishers is. That's not clear. Get $3,000 per book.

[B]

It's all going to go to J.K. rowling. That's how. Just like Taylor Swift gets all the music money.

[A]

No, she.

[B]

Per book.

[A]

She's only. How many books has she done? 10 maybe.

[B]

So she gets 30,000.

[A]

She'll get $30,000. That's nothing.

[B]

One of our producers is involved in investment banker meetings right now and he actually sent in a PDF which is a big eye roller about. Oh, this is it. This is the future. But here's a quote from his note that I thought was most interesting. The big shops like OpenAI Anthropic and Perplexity are struck struggling to find data to ingest for their models. They are looking for partnerships with companies that have large and or unique non public data sets and they are willing to pay a premium for access. Quote, data is the new gold in the world of AI. So they're out of it. They got to start using synthetic data. That's why, that's why all these images look so bad on the our generator.

[A]

Well, that's an interesting little tidbit.

[B]

Apple is being sued by authors authors now. Now that that 1.5 billion.

[A]

Well, I got to get on the bandwagon. Who's the law firm? I got to call them up. I got to be on these lawsuits.

[B]

Let me see.

[A]

I've written a lot. Look at all the columns I've written for PC magazine. I don't think I'd be able to get any money out of that.

[B]

But it's like I'm not getting any Ellison cash if they start replaying my Headbangers Ball episodes on and the new mtv. Believe me.

[A]

Yeah, we didn't do the right contract.

[B]

My sister in law called me up. She says hey, they just played a clip of you on Sirius XM from mtv. Do you get money for that? No, no, that's not how it works. Oh, here we go. Oh no. This is the lawsuit filed by authors Grady Hendricks and Jennifer Robertson. So that was too individual. You need your own lawyer. Hey, I know who Rob, the constitutional lawyer.

[A]

Maybe it might work out. He can just. He can coattail on some other stuff. It shouldn't be that much work.

[B]

He's a bully too. He's great.

[A]

Oh, I like a bully as a lawyer.

[B]

He's a bully in boots. That's his new.

[A]

I've had lawyers that were not bullies and they were just lame.

[B]

No, they suck.

[A]

It would take forever to get the job done if they. It's never as good as it should be.

[B]

And then the Snap AI. So the FTC commissioner, Rebecca Slaughter, I guess she's still around, around. I thought she was being kicked out, but they, they're now saying, hey, we had a complaint against Snap, because I guess Snap also has my AI chatbot and it has posed potential risks and harms to young users. All of this stuff is, this is, these are lawsuits just waiting to happen everywhere. And I think the author thing, that's a, that's a real deal. You get anthropic, you get Apple. I think there's money in it for you. And I want a finders fee, Rob, because I connected you to John. So I want $3 of every 3,000 John gets.

[A]

What?

[B]

What?

[A]

0.1%.

[B]

I'm kind.

[A]

That's not what a finder's fee is.

[B]

I'm kind. Okay, 1500. Thanks.

[A]

No, that's not what a finder's fee is. You don't know what you're doing.

[B]

I need you to be my agent for the money I'm taking from you.

[A]

I'll take the 15% from what you get.

[B]

All right, what do you want to do next? I have.

[A]

Okay, let's see what we got.

[B]

I got lots of Ukraine stuff, but we can hold off on that.

[A]

Some what stuff?

[B]

Ukraine. There's some stuff happening. Richer.

[A]

I have a. I have a funny set of clips and unfortunately I only took the second. You're going to have to look it up. The first of this from the last show, 96. And it's a funny exposition on the word um.

[B]

Yes, um is a word. But I have NPR number two. Is that from.

[A]

Yeah, number one was from last show and I didn't move it over. I was going to move it over and I thought I did.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. I have one. And I have two. We have, we have a match. We have a match. We say and hear it all the time and it's often frowned upon. Stop, stop, stop. Hold on a second. I got a message from Rob, the constitutional lawyer. He says he's gonna hire me as an expert witness. There you go.

[A]

Perfect.

[B]

Perfect. It's coming out of your check.

[A]

That's the way you do business coming.

[B]

Out of your check. Dvorak, I told you, the guy's a bully. He's great. He bullies his own clients. We say and hear it all the time, and it's often frowned upon.

[A]

But this two letter filler word is.

[B]

A mighty building block of conversation. So for our latest wor. Week. Let's have a talk about. Oh, how cute. Let's Latest Word of the Week let's have a talk about. NPR's Ayanna Archie has more.

[C]

We use for good reason. It fills the space when we're trying to think of what to say next. It can soften our tone to make us sound more casual or polite. It's it also signals to people that we're not done talking, which is known as turn holding. That buys you time and helps prevent other people from talking over you. That was Jessa Farris, an etymologist and co host of the Words Unraveled podcast. Delphine Dahan leads a psycholinguistics lab at the University of Pennsylvania.

[B]

The planning of this word doesn't take.

[C]

Much effort, which means that's something that speakers can produce on the drop of a head. Because of this filler, words with similar sounds and uses show up across languages and cultures. In France, it's an, uh sound Brits and Australian say despite its dominance, um gets a lot of hate. We have established in corporate culture and in public speaking and rhetoric that to make a clear argument, you should sound as decisive as possible. So where did um come from?

[B]

That's very interesting. The lady who is the expert on the word, she's drawing out words like that and a to replace. And it's obvious she's doing it.

[A]

Yeah, I think so.

[C]

The earliest record of the word is in plays written by John Marston. He was an English playwright who used as early as 1604. The Oxford English Dictionary says people typically don't write down because we have time to pause and think, think about what's next. But younger people have started writing informally to express humor, confusion, irony or signal a correction. TikTok captions say things like is this normal? Mignon Fogarty has written several books on language under the moniker Grammar Girl. Here's what she had to say. It does show up more in social media than in business emails or things like that. Situations where people are writing as though they were sitting speaking is still used mostly in face to face conversations. It tells the person you're still there and still thinking. So your commitment to the conversation is in question. You find the speaker, say, you asked me a question and now I answer it. I have to give you an answer. Isn't the bad guy. But if you want to use it less, it takes practice. You can start by speaking more slowly. Ayanna Archie, NPR News.

[B]

I'm gonna come. Well, okay.

[A]

Is that both parts?

[B]

That's both parts, yeah. Yeah, that's What I thought too, like, I thought it'd be a little more exciting.

[A]

Anyway, that was the. Because we always criticize people who say constantly.

[B]

Yeah, I do.

[A]

I thought that was a good segment.

[B]

I do it, you do it. We all do it.

[A]

Yeah, but not to an extreme.

[B]

No. Let's get some ums from our boy here from Ruta Rutte.

[A]

Oh, your buddy.

[B]

Yeah, he was on the euro debates and there you go.

[A]

And Trump's best friend. There you go.

[B]

And instead of I say, and how come they didn't put that in there? And he was talking on the euro debates and he is indeed Trump's friend because he is right off the bat. And at first I thought he was talking about some prime ministers when I heard the names he was rattling off, because it's very unclear. But what he was actually saying was Raytheon, Boeing. I thought he was talking about prime ministers and he's telegraphing to them what they need to do next. This is all about the war industrial base. If I was ration or Lockheed Martin or Rheinmetall or Leonardo, I would think, hey, that is strange. And why is this happening at this moment in NATO? Because we are not producing fast enough. And by the way, when it comes to shipbuilding and our navy, and particularly the US Navy, I'm really worried. The ship building. We are very worried. Hey, if I was ration or other companies like Leonardo, when he said he had.

[A]

He had a list, he had one there, it was just Leonardo Leonardo.

[B]

Let's listen. If I was Racian or Lockheed Martin, Racion, Raytheon or Lockheed Martin or I Metal or Leonardo I Metal, Bernardo, I was thinking, hey, Leonardo, Leonardo. What does Leonardo do?

[A]

Leonardo must have been something else. It just sounded like Leonardo.

[B]

Ships. Do they build ships? They build ships. Yeah, they build cruise ships.

[A]

Oh, a company called Leonardo, apparently.

[B]

Huh. Maybe that is strange, this moment in NATO because they're not producing fast enough. And by the way, when it comes to shipbuilding, ship building, our navy, and particularly the US Navy, I'm really worried because this China has now more ships sailing than the US and shipbuilding in the US is not at the rate that they can anywhere catch up on what China is doing at the moment, we really have to do some more shipbuilding. Shipbuilding is where it's at these days. Ration, get into it. But I don't think there will be an Article 5 kind of situation for China and Taiwan. When Article 5 is yes or no trigger, it's there. Yes or no triggered when it is yes or no triggered when Article 5 is yes or no trigger, it's there. I can assure you that anyone listening in from China or Russia or other people who wish as well who think that we are not clear on this, our reaction will be devastated based on the whole thing behind Article 5. And when it comes to hybrids, we.

[A]

Are not Clip up.

[B]

No, no, it's. They chopped it a little bit on the Euro debates themselves. Cut him up. They chopped him up. This. Our reaction will be devastated based on the whole thing behind Article 5. And when it comes to hybrids, we are not naive. Hybrid is a cuddly word. It sounds nice. It's a. What kind of word?

[A]

Cuddly.

[B]

Hybrid is a cuddly word, but it is not nice behind Article 5. And when it comes to hybrids, we are not naive. Hybrid is a cuddly word. It sounds nice, but it means assassination attacks, jamming of planes, attacks on the National Health Service in the United Kingdom and many other extensions. What is this? Attacks on the Health service in the United Kingdom. That was a very odd statement.

[A]

I have no idea what he's talking about.

[B]

So hybrid is assassinations. Hybrid is a cuddly word. It sounds nice, but it means assassination, attacks, jamming of planes, general plagues. No, jamming of planes. Jamming of planes or jamming. Oh, yeah. There's reasons he's saying all this stuff, but I'd not heard of the. Attacking the national health system of the uk. That sounds like something yet to come.

[A]

A textile.

[B]

National Health Service in the United Kingdom and many other examples. Very, very strange.

[A]

That is very strange.

[B]

And then try and riddle me this one. Sometimes we know President Eisenhower when it comes to the military industrial complex, although he was all. And didn't he basically build NATO?

[A]

I can't say that.

[B]

I think he was a big part of it.

[A]

I don't know. Maybe.

[B]

Well, listen, I don't know.

[A]

I just don't know.

[B]

Listen to this statement. Sometimes people think we do the 3.5% core defense spending for an audience of 1. No. It is a coincidence that by spending 3.5% we equalize what Europeans and Canadians are spending and the US Is spending, which is crucial because we had to end that debate which started with Eisenhower basically saying that the US was paying more than the Europeans and the US was totally right and rightly irritated and expecting Europeans in Canada to step up. That's now happening. So what he's saying is that Eisenhower said Europe is not paying enough. I don't recall this. I looked for speeches of him saying that. I don't think he's ever said that if anything, he said, be aware of the military industrial complex.

[A]

Well, no, he. We know that because that's his famous speech. But maybe, I mean, he was there in the office for eight years. He could have said that anywhere along the line.

[B]

Well, it's not famous where I could find it easily on YouTube. But he brought up GPS plane jamming. GPS plane jamming. Now, I'm sure you saw the story of Queen Ursula's flight being jammed. GPS jamming while she was flying.

[A]

I have not seen this story. Oh, give me a rundown.

[B]

I have a rundown. And pay attention to how these ladies talk about it on cnn.

[C]

A plane carrying the EU Commission president, Ursula von der Leyen was targeted by GPS jamming while trying to land in Bulgaria. A spokesperson has said it's believed the interference was carried out by Russia. The plane landed safely after the pilots used paper maps. Senior international correspondent Melissa Bell has been more on this from Paris.

[B]

Paper maps. I can't believe they use paper maps.

[C]

So, Melissa, good to have you on. What more do we know about what happened here? I mean, pilots reverting and resorting to using paper maps just shows the, the incredible jamming that occurred here where the, the, the plane systems, essentially the GPS systems, went down.

[B]

Okay, now there's another piece of this from this lady, but let's just talk about what this means. Paper mips. Okay, so up until 2006, really, I was still flying without a GPS until 2008. Yeah, you had a sectional map, but if you're landing at an airport, you use something called the ILS Instrument landing system. And it is radio transmitter based.

[A]

Gives you. Yeah, they're telling you what to do, right?

[B]

Well, it gives you two. You have, you have an actual instrument that is not GPS based. And it, it grabs the vertical and the horizontal, and there's literally two lines, and when they align, you're on the glide scope and you're headed right for the Runway. And that's been used since World War II. But now it's like paper maps. Oh, they had to land with paper maps. Why am I talking like Ruth? She's British. Anyway, so this is. That's like. I mean, you still have to train on an ILS that every pilot who flies knows has the instruments. It's not, it's not GPS based. In fact, you use ILS landing more often than you think. This whole GPS jamming thing, the way they're making it sound like, oh, we're so, so glad she got on the ground. So lucky they had to use paper maps. We don't even use that in the car anymore. This crazy. And of course, we need to blame it on Russia Froze.

[C]

That's right. We only found out about this today as a result of the commission speaking out about it. Eleni. After getting word from Bulgarian authorities that this GPS jamming was, they believe, the work of Moscow. But it happened, of course, on Sunday. This is part of Ursula von der Leyen, Europe's top leader, of course, the commission president's whistle stop, Eastern Europe, designed specifically to shore up support for Ukraine on this tour as she landed in southern Bulgaria. This incident on what was a charter plane. The commission's also recognized that they don't know whether she herself was specifically targeted or the plane in general. But certainly very concerning, as you say, the pilots having to resort to paper maps to land the plane safely. It did land safely, and she was able to carry on with her work. But she pointed out on the tarmac there after, of course, learning of this incident, but before the rest of the world had learned of it, that there was an urgency that we needed to keep in mind about fighting Russia and Putin to support Ukraine. You can see the images of her landing on Sunday on that airport tarmac in southern Bulgaria safely. But another example, as she said, of the need to keep a very close eye on Russia and continue fighting.

[B]

Now, unfortunately, the whole story is bullshit. I said it. I use the bullshit word because for 10 years now, we've had something called ADS B. And ADS B is directly connected to the GPS system of the aircraft. And ADS B, ADS B transmits altitude, position, speed, all these different parameters to the ground over radio waves, which is being received by hundreds of thousands of enthusiasts around the world. If you've ever looked AT Flight Radar 24 or Flight Aware or any of these other systems, that data is actually collected by people with. Some have antennas outside, but most of them, they just have a USB stick you stick into your computer and your Raspberry PI and it receives this data. Position, altitude, attitudes, speed of the aircraft. And they aggregate that on these websites. Well, you can see this flight from Queen Ursula, there was no deviation. All the data comes through perfectly. They were not circling around for hours. It looks, if anything, it looks like they had a missed approach and they went, oh, I think they lied. They missed the approach. They screwed something up. Maybe, maybe they were flying GPS approach R Nav or something and they didn't like it. And they went around like, oh, man, we can't tell anybody we screwed this up. You can see that there was no interruption of GPS data. It just kept transmitting exactly where they were throughout the entire flight. This is a lie and it's a laughable one.

[A]

Well, it tells me one thing. There's way too much ambient RF in the atmosphere.

[B]

Oh, yeah, there's a lot of that. These have been around for a long time.

[A]

Yeah, that's what we're all so.

[B]

Bull crap.

[A]

Yeah, that's a good catch. Good.

[B]

So now this all comes.

[A]

Sounds like. It sounds like bull crap anyway. I mean, besides that. I mean, what mechanism are they using to jam the gps? They got a bunch of. What is Russia got a bunch of antennas positioned in Bulgaria or what? What's going on?

[B]

You can jam them from satellite. We do this. We. We purposely throw G. Gps. That's.

[A]

Well, that should be traceable.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Where's the evidence then? Why don't we show some evidence that Russia did this?

[B]

We're not. This is just Queen Ursula, just. They're just making stuff up. But nothing as good as Ruth, who had to, for whatever reason, he had to downplay Putin in an amazing way. Ukraine is a sovereign nation. If Ukraine wants to have security guarantee forces in Ukraine to support the peace deal, it's up to them. Nobody else can decide about it. And I think we really have to stop making Putin too powerful. He is. He is the governor of Texas, not more so. Let's not take it too serious. What did you just say? What? What did you just say? Careful now, Mark. The governor of Texas and I, you know, I think Abbott should come out and complain about that comment. That was rather rude. Anyway, so with the coalition of the willing, they had their big meeting. Big meeting, everybody. Big meeting about what we're going to do. We're going to do boots on the ground. Who's going to do it? How are we going to have. What's going to happen? Come on.

[C]

After a day of intense talks at the Elise palace, the coalition of the willing has reached AN agreement.

[B]

Today. 26 countries have formally agreed and some others still have to confirm their position. 26 countries have agreed to deploy troops as security guarantees, troops in Ukraine which will be present on the ground, at sea and in the skies to bring that reassurance to Ukraine the day after a ceasefire or peace deal.

[C]

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky welcomed the agreement and express expressed his gratitude for America's support.

[B]

We agreed that there will be a presence.

[A]

I'm not yet ready to speak about.

[B]

The numbers, although to be honest, we already understand an approximate number of those who've already agreed.

[A]

We're also discussing a matter which I.

[B]

Believe will be further discussed. It's the backstop of America. We count on that. We are very grateful to America for supporting and being a part of the security guarantees for Ukraine.

[C]

The coalition concluded the talks with a call with US President Donald Trump. A White House official was quoted as telling reporters that Trump urged Europe to stop buying Russian oil and put pressure on China to punish it for funding Russia's war efforts. On Thursday morning, a spokesperson for the Russian Ministry of Foreign affairs said the guarantees would be a springboard for provocation. They're not guarantees of Ukraine's security. They're guarantees of danger to the European continent. The coalition of the Willing now looks to the US to formalize the plan in the coming days.

[B]

Yeah, so President Trump being very vague about all this. Yeah, yeah, we're here, we're around you. Call us if you need us. Russian President Putin is very clear.

[C]

It took Vladimir Putin a few hours to react to pledges made by the coalition of, of the willing. According to French President Emmanuel Macron, 26 countries out of the group's 35 have said they would deploy troops by land.

[B]

Sea or air to help protect Ukraine.

[C]

After a ceasefire or peace is reached. This was the Russian president's response.

[A]

Should there be any troops deployed in Ukraine, especially now, in the course of the military action, we would treat them as legitimate targets.

[C]

Vladimir Putin said he saw no reason to deploy foreign troops in Ukraine once peace is signed. She also said that if Ukraine is getting security guarantees, then Russia should get some as well.

[B]

Meanwhile, hey, we'll back you, too. Hey, Vladimir, we'll back you. We'll back everybody.

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Then Russia should get some as well. Meanwhile, Ukrainian President Volody Zelensky hailed pledges made by the coalition, adding that countries can step up their support to Ukraine before a ceasefire is signed.

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In the next few weeks, we'll talk with each country about what exactly they can do.

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And it's important that security guarantees start working now.

[A]

What I'm working on getting a Zelensky voice during the war. That's why I'm mumbling in the background during the. All right, all right. Ends.

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President Donald Trump has excluded sending US Troops to Ukraine, but has mentioned the US Providing security guarantees with no details.

[B]

On what they would entail.

[C]

Responding to journalists on Thursday, Trump said he would hold new discussions with Vladimir Putin soon.

[B]

So then Putin, so what I'm hearing is Europe, who is war hungry, war monger mongers, they just want war. They can't help themselves. They're saying, well, you know, we're going to put all of our hundreds of thousands of troops that were rousting from the German streets. We're going to put them in Ukraine. And Putin is saying, well, if you do that, they're valid targets unless I can get some security guarantees, which I take to be as well, we're going to put our troops on the other side of the demilitarized zone and when we'll have an ongoing armistice for the rest of our lives so everybody can keep their war economy. But to find out what's really going on, we turn to my sage in all of this, our Canadian, Andrew Asoulas, who I think had some good takes on this. The audio on this first one is a little choppy, but that's only a little bit in the first clip.

[C]

For more on this story, I'm now joined by Andrew Rasulis. He is a fellow with the Canadian Global Affairs Institute and a retired Department of National Defense official. Thanks so much for talking to us this morning. First of all, your reaction to this latest attack.

[B]

I think there's two elements to it. First is Putin and the Russian military are following up Putin's political words over the weekend that the Russians would never tolerate any coalition of the willing forces, that's NATO type forces deploying to Ukraine, either either before a ceasefire or after a ceasefire, that the Russians would consider them as hostile forces and that would also include any Canadian contingent. The second point, though, I think the Russians are actually gearing up for a very determined fall offensive. They have waged a very strong summer offensive and recently have made some unexpected types of countries. I think what's going to happen now is Russia's are going for victory. As to all this talk about coalitions are willing to deploying forces, the Russians are not having that and they're saying, look, a neutral Ukraine status for oblast or we're going to go to victory. And I think the Russians are very serious about waging a war to force Ukrainians to accept the Russian conditions. By the way, as a technical point of note, the reason why he started cutting out is because some idiot sound guy decided to pot up the sound of Putin and the background and zoom doesn't know what to do with it. So they stopped that luckily. So what about President Trump in all of this?

[C]

Let's talk about the timing of this though, because this is all coming just a week or rather a few weeks after Russian President Vladimir Putin said he reached understandings with US President Donald Trump when it comes to the end of the war with Ukraine. Of course, that came out of the meeting with Trump in Alaska. But based on that and what's now happened overnight, what was achieved there?

[B]

Well, I think what was achieved actually was dialogue at the highest level. We didn't have that before Alaska and then the follow up meeting at the White House with Zelensky and Trump on the Monday following. So no, we do have this dialogue. And because we have the dialogue, we actually know how far apart the positions are. But that is a result of dialogue which we again, again didn't have before. So we now know that the Russians are not going to accept the Ukrainian position and Ukrainians are not going to accept the Russian position. So we know there will be more war until one can force the other. Right now the Russians are winning the war and they, they have the stronger hand. Yeah, he just says it. That's really good. You don't get that from any other Western media. Now we go to the boots on the ground part and the sanctions. Is any of that work working?

[C]

Let's talk about something you touched on just a few moments ago. The fact that Putin has attacked this plan about sending any foreign troops to help out in this conflict. What are your thoughts on that? Given what Canada has said it plans to do, given what France has said it plans to do in deploying troops by land, sea or air to guarantee Kyiv security. Where do they go from here?

[B]

Well, I guess I don't think they go very far because the Russians clearly said this is a non starter. Now the Western response to that is more sanctions. So they're saying, okay, we need to pressure the Russians to accept our coalition of the willing and Ukrainian position. And the Russians are saying no. And they were in Beijing. Putin was in Beijing with, you know, a couple of days ago for the big 1940, 1945, end of World War II parade and the meetings there. The Indians were there, the Chinese were there, all of Putin's allies were there and they formed a very strong phalanx. So Putin is feeling very strong about resisting Western sanctions. But Western sanctions are the only option available for the coalition of the willing and Ukraine. I'm telling you, they, they just don't want to resolve it. The Europeans are crushing crazy. And isn't this the proverbial nobody wins a pissing contest because there's really only.

[A]

This is the kind of thing that deteriorates. That's the problem. This is similar to what happened in World War I.

[B]

Explain.

[A]

Well, in World War I it started off with the assassination of this character Ferdinand, Ferdinand in the middle of nowhere by some nut Jack Job and then it became a bunch of people shaking their fists at each other. And the next thing you know, it evolved into a world war. It was this damnedest thing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And this kind of thinking, it festers. It's like a. It's like an open wound.

[B]

Well, you're right, because there's only two ways this can go. Last clip from Andy Rasulas.

[C]

Finally, I do want to ask you this. Some analysts have said that Putin is betting Ukraine's army will break before his economy does. How do you see it?

[B]

Yes, exactly. That is the Russian position. The Russians are now, as I mentioned, mounting what appears to be a major fall offensive. That is exactly what they're trying to do, is break the Ukrainian forces, burn them out before the Russian economy struggles further. The Russian economy is under pressure, there's no doubt about that. But it's not at the severe point. There's no rationing in Russia. And if you get into a severe wartime economy, you start to ration. So the Russians are not there yet, but they don't want to go there. They want to try and bring this war to a closure on their terms as soon as possible. And I think they're going to. They're launching these military operations now, but they're open for a dialogue with Ukraine. If they want to come around, accept Russian terms. The Russians will stop the war. And the Europeans don't care about Ukraine. They're cannon fodder to them. They really don't care.

[A]

I, I agree. And if Russian, the people talk about the Russian economy. The Russian economy is doing just fine, just as he said. There's no rationing or anything going on. And they're doing. And if they just turn their sights on China and India as a, making a giant market there with you know, maybe even Iran and South Africa and some other.

[B]

Yeah, the bricks. The bricks.

[A]

The brics gang, the brics thrown in for good measure. The Russians are, would. Can coast through this economically. They don't. They. Like they said they can't. What are they going to sanction? They're not doing any business with us now. Caviar. We don't even use Russian caviar anymore.

[B]

Now where do we get it from? Nova Scotia?

[A]

No, we get it from everywhere. Caviar. If we can get some good. There's some good caviar in North Carolina. We have sturgeon.

[B]

We have sturgeon. We have caviar from North Carolina.

[A]

Yeah. And it's stur. They grow the sturgeon there. And the big, the big ones, the big boys. Yeah. And they Have a. It's all farmed in a very elaborate system. And they cut out the caviar and sew up the sturgeon, put them back in action and it's just. And you get this terrific product. They even have the high end, super high end caviar. Comes out of the United States. China has a lot of caviar caviars. Iranians are the big caviar makers. They're the, you know, alongside the, the Russians. But we don't trade with them that much. No, I can get Iranian saffron. I can go down. I know two stores that sell it. So they're doing some trading. But yeah.

[B]

Where's PETA in all of this? Cutting open the sturgeons and sewing them back up.

[A]

They're having.

[B]

Just for some eggs. Can't we just catch them as they.

[A]

As they shoot them out with their Bellinis?

[B]

Bellinis. There's nothing like a blini with some sour cream, a little bit of egg, a little bit of onion. Oh, yeah, baby. I love me some caviar. Especially from. Where is it? North Carolina?

[A]

Yeah, I believe it's North Carolina. There's. But that's not the only farm we have in this country. There's a couple. I've. I look it up every once in a while because I've. Before there's an event or something, I think, well, I'm gonna buy some caviar and they ship it out.

[B]

Stop. What event? What event do you have?

[A]

Well, I haven't bought any for. I would use it at Christmas. I'll buy caviar for Christmas. I used to. I don't do it anymore because we're starving to death. We're not getting enough donations for the podcast. But beside the point. I'm not squandering. I'm using my income from investments for the caviar. I just want to mention that. But I don't have it. I haven't been getting it. I'm kind of reluctant because you can get cat now, the caviar. They even sell it to Russian grocers in San Francisco. There's a little Russian segment of town there. The caviar is just this hybrid crap. It's no good.

[B]

Well, if Europe really wants America as a backstop, maybe they shouldn't be doing stuff like this. Not happy with the EU's fine on Google? Donald Trump is threatening sanctions.

[A]

No, I'm going to be speaking to the European Union. But it's not fair. People say there was nothing wrong with what they did. It's Almost a source of income to run Europe.

[B]

Google says it's appealing a fine of.

[A]

Almost 3 billion euros by the European.

[B]

Commission, which says the search giant took advantage of its grip over online advertising to favor its own ads and content.

[C]

Google abused its dominant position in adtech, harming publishers, advertisers and consumers.

[B]

Also this week, Google was fined $425 million in the US for gathering data from smartphone users that should have been protected by their privacy settings. I didn't hear about that. Did you hear about this? That they were.

[A]

No, I've not heard about this.

[B]

From their privacy settings.

[A]

The privacy settings. I didn't realize that they were stealing data.

[B]

Privacy. What. There's gambling on there. And France's Data Protection Authority fined Google 325 million euros for failing to respect the law on Internet cookies. Oh, the cookies. They were going to get rid of cookies.

[A]

$325 million worth of cookies.

[B]

Remember the. Were going to get rid of cookies. They kept saying, oh, no, we've got a better system now. We want to use cookies.

[A]

What is. What's a better system than cookies?

[B]

What was it called? It was a.

[A]

It's got to be bad. Whatever it is. Cookies are bad enough. You know what? Cookies were invented. It was Flock who invented cookies. Netscape.

[B]

Yes. Originally invented for your. My. Netscape wasn't.

[A]

Was invented. I think it was invented for the purposes of tracking. I don't. I. There's no other reason to do it, but it was like supposedly you went to the website, then it logged you. So. So when you went back, you wouldn't be getting the redundant information. It was supposed to be a good idea, but it was. I don't think so.

[B]

Well, Google said many times they were going to replace cookies with Flock. Flock. You've heard of Flock? Federated Learning of Cohorts. A tracking feature.

[A]

Yes. A tracker. This is just a tracking. Like a dog.

[B]

Exactly. But I guess they can't get it to work or they'd have to share the information with other people and they don't like doing that. And I don't know. I don't know how they're gonna. How they're gonna manage eventually with. With AI. Anyway, let's continue this. These might sound like scary sums, but they're a small fraction compared to the quarter of a trillion dollars that Google.

[A]

Added to its market share this week.

[B]

As its stock shot up by more than 11%.

[A]

Why?

[B]

Because investors are breathing a sigh of relief. Google avoided being broken up. The European Commission could have ordered Google to divest part of its business, but said it first wants to assess the company's efforts to comply, giving it 90.

[A]

Days to do so. And on Tuesday, a US judge rejected.

[B]

The American government's demand that Google sell its Chrome web browser. As a reminder, it was Donald Trump's first administration that brought that case against Google. We didn't really talk about it, but I thought that was quite interesting. They didn't have to divest from Chrome. If anything, I thought that would be the right way to go.

[A]

I don't know what the right way to go is with the breaking up these companies.

[B]

Well, how about spinning out YouTube and see if they really make any money?

[A]

That would be a. That would be a good way to go. But I think YouTube, now that they got YouTube TV, they have to be making money at this point.

[B]

I don't know, ma'. Am. There's a lot of data, a lot of caching at the edges. I mean, it is not cheap. What is it?

[A]

No, now they have hourong videos. Those things can't be cheap to post, man.

[B]

I'm streaming the quad screen all day long and every four hours it says, are you seeing still there? They're not doing that because it's. It's not costing the money because they turn it off.

[A]

So using Google tv and they're using. They have a feature where you can. You can have four screens up at the same time.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But are you using it on one screen or you separating it out? How are you doing it?

[B]

No, I have one. One screen, one television, One big giant.

[A]

Screen with four quads.

[B]

Big giant screen. Big giant screen. But it doesn't matter anything if you're watching cnbc. Doesn't matter what you're watching. You're watching after four hours, if, if you haven't interacted, they. They shut you off because it's costing them money, basically.

[A]

Well, they figured, you know, if you're not. If you don't get the message when they flash it in the screen, you're not there.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So why should they be wasting bandwidth sending you crap? That's the way I see it.

[B]

Yeah. Because it's still costing them money. I just don't think.

[A]

Of course it's costing them money. It's not free.

[B]

Remember when Leo thought the bandwidth was free? Remember how funny that was?

[A]

He made a big fuss about it.

[B]

Remember how funny that was? Yeah.

[A]

Bandwidth is free. What's the fuss? Yeah, he did say that.

[B]

With that. I want to thank you for your courage in the morning. To you, the man who put the sea in the urban Co mission. Say hello to my friend on the other end. The one, the only, Mr. John C. De.

[A]

Yeah, well, in the morning he was Adam K. And the air subs in the water and all the names and knights out there.

[B]

And the morning to the trolls control room. I had to cough in the middle of my announcement of you. That was bad. And I thought that the echo would keep going when I cut the mic, but it cut the echo. It was very.

[A]

Oh, that's the reason that you had the delay.

[B]

Yeah, because I cut it off, then it stops.

[A]

Oh, interesting.

[B]

Yeah, it was bad. 1930. 31 in the troll room today. Still about 250 shy of what we're used to, but it's okay.

[A]

No, no.

[B]

What do you mean no? It's 2400. 2200 is 2400. What is it?

[A]

As far as I'm concerned, it's 2500.

[B]

No, it was never 2500. It was always 24. It was 1800 on Thursday and 2400 on Sunday.

[A]

Sucks.

[B]

It's just people who can't, maybe they can't listen live because they're all, they've all become plumbers and they're working on stuff. They have jobs. Our people have jobs, man.

[A]

Well, we do have people with work that work for a living. There's no doubt about that. But I think is when we lost them during that the dark era where they couldn't get on, they never came back. This is like when you lose a mark, a person to when you lose a person. So old marketing rule, it's harder to.

[B]

Get them back than to get a new person.

[A]

Yeah. So you have to work on getting new people constantly.

[B]

So talk to your neighbor and say, hey, are you listening live? And if they're not, then tell them they should be because it's fun. It's fun. And, and you get the news right away. You get everything fresh, hot, off the griddle and, and if you use a modern podcast app, you'll be notified when we go live. And I'm sure I, I, I can't put a message in that. I should probably, I, I don't think I can do that.

[A]

Yeah, make it. Put it in podcasting 2.1.

[B]

What? Yes. Okay, we'll work on that. Podcasting 2.1 is coming right up. Get your modern podcast [e-mail] that's where you want to be. That's what you want. You don't want a legacy app. You want something fresh, modern, that brings you all of the great new features now, including Animated chapter images.

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I haven't seen that yet.

[B]

Well, do you. You don't even have it. You don't even use an app. You don't even listen to me.

[A]

You have to see it on the art generator, wouldn't you?

[B]

Well, he doesn't get them from the art generator. He gets them from other places and puts. He just puts it in with. With animators.

[A]

Just random. Random images.

[B]

Rando.

[A]

Random rando images. It's got something to do with the show, maybe, or not.

[B]

Well, no, of course it has something to do with the topic. Yeah. Rando images. Yeah. He does a good job. And that is part of our value for value proposition. Drebscott. He does the chapters for us, which is quite a lot. Lot of work because he has to mark everything, go back, put it all in, go to the. The chapter studio and add in the images, add in little titles and funny stuff. And then he's got to save it all, send it to me, and then I put it on this server. And it's a big. As a big process, but it's value for value. He's sending value back as part of the value he received for the show. And a lot of those images that he uses that aren't animated are in fact value that we receive from our prompt jockeys. I don't think I've seen a single original piece of art in the last 10 shows.

[A]

No, no, there was one. There's one that said this is not AI art.

[B]

Okay, There was one. And to be honest, it's hard to find something that's really exciting anymore. They're all okay now. Nesswerx. I'm not sure about nesswerx because he is a real artist. And it looks like he's doing hybrid. He's doing well, He's a real artist.

[A]

But he's not an idiot.

[B]

Yeah, correct.

[A]

And so he's gonna use the tools available to him.

[B]

Yeah. So this the big one, the bomb with no agenda. He's got the no agenda, like exploding O. And he's got hypodermic needles going into this thing.

[A]

And.

[B]

And it looks really good on a white background, which is one of the.

[A]

That's a good piece.

[B]

It's a very good piece. And we use that for episode nine, 1796. Wow. This is 1797. Only three more to go. And that's episode 1800. Moving up. On our 18th anniversary, we titled that one Zeds. Zeds for these Zeds. The generation Zed, man. Let's see what. Let's see what else we.

[A]

We I like, we need the list.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Because it was another orange cart cartoon.

[A]

To me.

[B]

It's an orange now. It's not even orange anymore now. It's just.

[A]

You're colorblind, so you're seeing more orange than anyone.

[B]

It's orange. It's an orange cartoon.

[A]

Like Leader of China is Mike it.

[B]

That would have been great if it wasn't a cartoon by.

[A]

By Jeffrey.

[B]

I'm gonna tell you right up front, people who make cartoons that have orange in them, I'm not. I'm gonna ve. Veto them time and time again. It makes me tired.

[A]

It makes you tired?

[B]

Yeah, it makes me tired. I look at. I just go, oh, I'm so tired. And comics are blogger. You can stop with the butts and the boobs anytime now. It's not even exciting us after the show. It's like, just more scrolling. There's another butts. There's another boob. Okay, so no, this is consistent. Please let me know. Jeffrey Ria, who I think is a digital 2112 man. And who else does the. Jeffrey Ria. Jeffrey Ria. Darren o'.

[A]

Neill.

[B]

Tell me what. What AI you're using, because it's all coming. Coming out the same, you know, and that's. That's model collapse on that one for sure. Just nothing new. But, Sir Suge, who did the therap Therapy. Therapy AI, which we didn't choose. But that's also cartoonish AI but has no. Well, actually, does there.

[A]

No, it's. No, it's totally different. It's got to be a different product.

[B]

But it's got orange in the letters and orange in the thought bubble. I mean, it's crazy, the amount of orange. Why orange?

[A]

We talked about this before. That's where they're keeping all the metadata.

[B]

Well, we Want to thank Nessworx for bringing us an outstanding piece. No agenda. Artgenerator.com People are still having problems getting an account. I'm not sure why. I don't know if there's some secret to it. Is there. It'll. It'll kick back. An error message saying, you uploaded the wrong size. Does anybody know what that is? I thought I was. Don't you have to do 512 by 512? Isn't that what every.

[A]

I have no idea. Dallas, you mentioned it.

[B]

Yeah, well, there's. There's a problem. And then people send it to me and say, what am I doing wrong? Like, I don't know. I really don't know.

[A]

Why don't you just forward the messages off to our buddy.

[B]

I do it all the time. To Paul Couture.

[A]

He's not paying attention.

[B]

No, probably not. Anyway, thank you very much, Nessworks. We appreciate that. And we appreciate all the work, all of our prompt jockeys do. I miss the. I missed the Dutch Masters. I'm not gonna lie. I miss the Dutch Masters. I miss it a lot. But I understand. I get it. You know, we have, in essence also no end of show mixes that are new. We have one new one today because, you know, people have gotten lazy. Like, I'm just gonna. I'm just gonna do an AI song and then I. I won't play it. I'm like, he didn't play my AI song. Five minutes was dynamite, man.

[A]

They gotta find some way to making these AI songs short, short and funny. They're not like 50 seconds. Let's go for limited at 50 seconds and.

[B]

And make them funny. I'm not impressed by. Wow, that singing is great. I don't care. You gotta have some. You gotta have a hook, man. Gotta have a hook. Also, as part of value for value, we have people who send us treasure. It's time, talent, and treasure. We love the treasure keeps the home fires burning. And we thank everybody who supports us on each episode. $50 and above. And as a special bonus for those who are fortunate enough to be able to afford it, we have a special credit for those who support us with $200 or more. You become an associate executive producer and will read your note. $300 and above an executive producer and we'll read you note. But remember, everybody can become a knight or a dame or move up the peerage ladder just by keeping track of your donations. We've had people doing this for over 10 years and now becoming knights and dames. And that does, of course, get you that handsome knight or dame ring. Please be patient. We order them based on size. We don't have like a whole bunch of size 6 hangers around. So it could take a month to six weeks. But we have always delivered even.

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We're up against the wall. We got to get that new. Put in an order and it takes a month to get them back.

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Oh, I thought we. I thought Jay already put the order in.

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Not that I know of.

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Well, we want to start off today by thanking James Dumont from North Hampshire, New Hampshire. North Hampshire, N.H. lindaburg, Lindaboro, Linda Borough, Lindborough, N.H. there you go. 5. 1538 says thank you for the city and the state.

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Get.

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I don't know. I don't know. They're all.

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They're all that way.

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They're all that way.

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No, no. They stopped being that way at line five.

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PayPal. Who knows? Thank you for the sanity you've provided since COVID happened. I would like to be declared the Attorney General of Gen Xers now. There you go. There's an Attorney General General title. Who laugh at being ignored because we are and I request you're not being ignored. If anything, we pay extra attention to you. And he says, I would like to have the following jingles. Spot the spook. And that's true. We can do that.

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A Spot the spook. Spot the spook.

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Everybody wants to spot the spooky.

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That's true.

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It's true.

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It's true. Why don't you take this one because it's about podcasting and everything you've been promoting for the last ten years. About local.

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Oh, Robert Kaminowski. Kaminowski from Ohio. Seven Hills, Ohio. 350 and 93 cents. He says. With your encouragement, my brother in law and I have managed to start a podcast. Ah, just what the world needed, right? Absolutely. And if it's a local one. In an attempt to keep track of what happens in our local area. There we go. We have started the Crooked River Cast. Crooked River Cast, named in reference to one of Ohio's most famous rivers, the Cuyahoga River. Cuyahoga means Crooked river, so they say. It's most famous for burning in 1969 and helping clear the way for the EPA and the Clean Water Act. Yep, it's our fault. Tom and I dig through the news throughout the week looking for what interests us in the great state of Ohio on news, politics and culture, keeping track of our critters in Columbus, both the R's and the D's. One chance show at a time. This is like a local no agenda. We're focusing on Northeast Ohio with the weekly show posted every Monday morning following all the rules. I love it. After recording 25 shows this Sunday, September 7th, the show can no longer be hosted by a douchebag. Please de douche me.

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You've been de douched.

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We have a small but growing show that can use all the help it can get. We are having fun along the way. And wow, do I know much more about what's going on in my state. For that I thank you with this donation of 3.33.33. Of course he sent us with fees as well. Check us [e-mail] or search for us in your favorite podcasting 2.0 app. And he Says Jingles all the Al Sharpton that he can get. I pulled a classic for you and John's aunts. Yeah. So of course we can do both. So congratulations. That is crooked. Crooked River. What was it? I'm trying to look for it now. What was the name? Oh, Crooked River Cast. There we go. That was. They'll never know. I'll edit it out. That was crookedrivercast.com for the crooked river podcast. Thanks, guys.

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I got ants. I got ants.

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The GOP infighting is escalating. Political says Democrats are outright giddy, happy to watch the GOP implode. There you go. All right, Jitty.

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Sir Scoby in Charlotte, North Carolina is up. And he also wants to know Reverend L. Jingle. He wants the respect.

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Okay.

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Jingle.

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Okay.

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Sorry, I have to do you. Yeah, he's the only person I've ever successfully hit in the mouth. Well, try harder. So I'm using some of my apple shill money through the less than $20 a share. Oh, you bought the stock at 20?

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Nice. Nice.

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You can give us more than this? Oh, it depends. How many shares?

[B]

Weren't there a couple of splits along the way?

[A]

Oh, outrageous. He sold it last year for a lot more and to put an end to this situation. Oh, okay.

[B]

Oh, so he gets de douching now? See, that's why I was holding him back.

[C]

You've been de douched.

[A]

Well, the douchebag was. Oh, okay. Scott does some amazing custom vehicle upholstery. Oh, good at. What do we have here? Shot Sean in Sean interiors dot com. Shauna S H C. Nay.

[B]

No, it's pronounced cna. This is a horrible name.

[A]

So you print you spell cna. This is not a good URL.

[B]

S e n s e a n a e interiors.com pronounce CNA CNA interiors.

[A]

Cnainteriors.Com check. Check them out. If you live in the Midwest and need any view I thought these guys in the UK and need any vehicle upholstery services. Keep up the amazing work. John, keep on bringing the TikTok clips and everyone else keep buying iPhones.

[B]

I guess he's still holding.

[A]

He still owns stock. Okay. Sir Sam of the Bedfordshire and River. Great. What's that say? Ouse. What's.

[B]

I don't know. It's kind of bird. I have no. No idea.

[A]

Confusing note.

[B]

Then we get. What do we have here? We have Charlotte in San Francisco.333.33 Another match. I guess we're going to be done for the matches. Hello John and Adam. Here's my donation. She writes in a handwritten note. You can tell she's a woman just from how she writes is beautiful handwriting. Hoping to be part of the matching rally one of your other generous donators has offered. Well, you're in. You two make me laugh. Underline. And that's why I keep coming back. Yours truly, Charlotte in San Francisco, California. Nice handwriting.

[A]

Well, thank you, Charlotte. Sir Eric in Texas and he's in San Antonio. 261669 ITM Gentlemen, Sir Eric here. First and foremost, happy birthday, Adam.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

Belated, but there it is. I would like to congratulate you too on Yalls continuing success and maintaining what is the best podcast in the universe. Yalls value to me is incalculable. So please accept this donation for exactly 261.69. I would like to call out Jacob Kleiss as a douchebag. Douchebag. I hit him in the mouth a month. A few years in the mouth a few years ago. And he admitted to me that he has listened ever since and has never donated. With that said, please attribute this donation and associate executive producer Chip to him. Oh, okay, so this is a switcheroo.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

My success of hitting people in the mouth is lachrymose. Well, there's a word that's got my. I don't know, lacrimose. I've never heard of this word with humorless or something. But Jacob gives me hope. In sharing your message, please play 6969 dude jingle and some relationship cover would be appreciated. P.S. john, please forgive me for forgetting the H last time.

[B]

Do you remember what that's about?

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No.

[B]

69. 69.

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Dudes.

[C]

You've got karma.

[B]

And Steve Weiss in Nevada, Las Vegas. Comes in with 250 associate executive producership. And he has a switcheroo for his smoking hot wife in honor of their 25th anniversary and they never had a fight. We don't know her name, though, which. So what do we call? Just Mrs. Weiss.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Ms. Ms. Steve.

[A]

Ms. Weiss. Ms. Weiss.

[B]

I think Ms. Is funnier. Ms. Weiss.

[A]

Funnier.

[B]

Give her a train horn and a boogity boogity boots on the ground report on summer jobs. Sent in separate email to John. To John. Did you receive a separate email to you to John? Probably mentioned his wife in that one.

[A]

I'd have to look.

[B]

No, I got blocked. Do you have a train horn?

[A]

What?

[B]

Do you have a train horn? We. I don't have a train horn.

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I have a bunch. I got this. I got this. Wow.

[B]

That was. That was a lot of noise at the same time. Same time, I'd say. Okay.

[A]

Yes, I have trained. I got plenty o. Train horns.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Jeremy gray in Owasso, Oklahoma. 220. I also have. I also have this classic tickets. Yeah, well, they're John and Adam. This is my second donation to the show. Thank you for a consistently high quality product. Thank you for saying that. I like the following jingles. One, Rubbleizer. Two. Obama. No, no, no, no. And any old explosion sound effect. Thank you, Jeremy. 220.

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A couple things. One, I'm retiring the Rubbleizer. It is to only be used for Rubbleizer donations after this. Don't you agree?

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Okay. Two, I don't actually have an explosion sound effect. Do you have an explosion sound effect?

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I can find the other little sound effect device. There is one.

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I mean, I have a boom crash sound effect, but I don't have an explosion. I don't think I. Not. No. That's not even close. Wait, wait. No, no, no. That's not gonna do. No.

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No.

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Well, I'll try this. India tango. Mike standby. 33. 33, 33. Rubberizer out. Hey.

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No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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Hey.

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All aboard. All right, There you go.

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Okay, you're up.

[B]

No, I just read this one. Europe, Sir Heb.

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Really? I thought I just read Jeremy gray in Owasso, Oklahoma. 220.

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Sarahib of Hogtown. 20166. Hi. Fe. Hi. It's been a while, but I have an excuse. I had a ruptured brain aneurysm Last December. Well, that's not much of an excuse.

[A]

That's a good excuse.

[B]

However, not only did I survive, but I made it through with no deficits. I can walk, talk, etc. And I'm back to work, thanks in part to the duchess of jobs. Oh, Linda Lou. Nice. Well, we're very happy for you. I asked Karma for my friend Trixie, who could use jobs karma but also special karma while dealing with an ex husband who is sue suing her to get her to get her young children vaccinated for Covid. She lives in a deep blue state, so we're hoping for the best. Wow. That is. That is. I'm gonna pray for her. That sucks. As always, thank you for what you do and God bless sir Heb of Hogtown.

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Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs Karma.

[B]

Little goat there, little goat. To help out with a suing Karma.

[A]

Yeah. We're going to wrap it up here with Linda Lupatkin. She's in Lakewood, Colorado. 200 bucks jobs karma. Worried about AI for a resume that gets results and tells your unique story and highlights the value you bring, go to ImageMakers Inc.com. that's ImageMakers Inc. With a K. And work with Linda Lu, duchess of jobs and writer of winning resumes.

[C]

Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs Karma.

[B]

Yeah, and they really do work. You heard it right there. The guy had a ruptured brain. Aneurysm comes back, gets a resume from Linda Liu. Boom, he's back in business. I love it how the no agenda Gitmo Nation helps each other. And thank you to these executive and associate executive producers for episode 1797. Three more to go until we hit the big 1800. And of course, these crush credits are real. You can use them anywhere, Hollywood style. Credits are recognized, which includes IMDb, it includes LinkedIn, any social media profile or just. It may just look very handsome on your letterhead. And of course, one of those resumes from Linda Liu. And we'll be thanking the rest of our donors. $50 above in a few minutes. But once again, congratulations to these associate and executive producers.

[A]

Our formula is this.

[B]

We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Okay. All righty. Huh?

[A]

What do you got? You got anything good? How about Manda? Let's take the. Just get to get it out of the way. Let's do a little Mandami. Let's catch up with Mandami in Brooklyn.

[B]

Mom. Let's get it right. Mom. Donnie Mamdani and mom Donnie. Momdani.

[A]

They're afraid of Mr. Mamdani becoming an example to what can happen all over this country.

[C]

Communists and socialists alike are taking over the Democrat party as Bernie Sanders and Zoran Mandani team up to push their far left message. In New York City tonight, Mamdani is causing headaches for the rest of the Democrats with his toxic policies. But Mamdani hit his fundraising goal and is loaded with cash as he seems ready to take over the party.

[A]

Well, folks, you've done it again.

[B]

We can't take any more of your money.

[A]

Truly, you need to stop. Thanks to you, we've raised the maximum amount of money we can spend to this race. $8 million.

[C]

Well, now AOC is calling out the rest of her party for not falling in line and endorsing Mamdani. I am very concerned about the example that is being set by anybody in our party. And so I think for the good of the party, we must put our differences aside and support our party's nominee.

[B]

Yeah, support my acting colleague.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. The two actors together, when I.

[B]

We were talking to. To our friends in Austin, they lived in New York for a long, long time, even though he just worked remotely. And they had completely forgotten about AOC because I said, who's running, Mum? Donnie, a Democrat, Socialist of America. I said, okay. Because he's a theater kid. He is. So. Yes. Oh, just like AOC and like. What do you mean? She auditioned for the job? She auditioned. She did. What, you think she just came out from the bar and all of a sudden was. Was a congresswoman? No.

[A]

Hey, I'm surprised how many people don't know that.

[B]

Don't know anything. Exactly.

[A]

They don't know anything.

[B]

No, don't know nothing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

All right, keep going.

[A]

Oh, well, I could almost do a clip blitz, but I'm not going.

[B]

No clip blitz.

[A]

Let's go to. Here's another one. This, I think, is right up your alley. This is the China new moon threat.

[B]

Oh, is it new Moonies Senate lawmakers. No, no, I was going to get out. That would be great.

[C]

Moonies Senate lawmakers say that maintaining the lead over China in space is not just a race, but a matter of US national security. NTD correspondent Jason Blair reports.

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We are in a new space race with China, and if we fail, there will be a bad moon on the rise.

[B]

Oh, please. What's this?

[C]

It's critical to our future economic and national security.

[A]

During a Senate hearing examining the race in space, the main theme was that.

[B]

The US Must maintain leadership over China. If they get There first, we will see a global realignment that will impact our economy, our tax base, our ability to innovate, and our national security in terms of diplomacy and geopolitical politics that will affect security and many other aspects of our daily lives. It is clear to me that the Chinese Communist Party is already employing its own integrated grand strategy for the Earth Moon system with only superficial distinction between civil, commercial and national security activities, and all focused on a common purpose.

[A]

Senator Tim Sheehy questions whether NASA needs to make adjustments in order to stay ahead of the game.

[B]

And I'm very concerned that, that the bureaucracy of NASA, of which I love NASA, I'm a supporter, but we have to be honest with ourselves.

[A]

Is the bureaucracy of NASA positioned to.

[B]

Give us space dominance in the 21st century? What in the world is this? We went to the moon six times. Seven times.

[A]

Seven.

[B]

I mean, how many more times do you have to be talking this. Oh, we can't do it. China.

[A]

No, it's pretty funny.

[B]

It used to be the Russians, you know, oh, they got Sputnik. This is. This just really, really.

[A]

I thought you'd like that clip.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. It's like we've all forgotten we went to the moon.

[A]

This is just. It's piling on. It's piling on.

[B]

It is.

[A]

Here's an interesting little story. Since you were giving me the floor, how about, oh, let's play this first stock trade that. Did you know that there's going to be a government shutdown? I thought the big beautiful bill took care of. Of that.

[B]

Yeah, it's a little confusing to me, too, because now they need a, basically a new. What is it? Continuing resolution just to keep this going.

[A]

The clip is stock trading.

[B]

A bipartisan group of lawmakers has given.

[A]

House leadership until the end of September to vote on a bill that would ban members of Congress from trading in stocks.

[B]

It is time for Congress to act. It is time for the leadership of Congress on both sides of the aisle to drive, do what the American people have been demanding, which is to end day trading by members of Congress. They do not send us here to enrich ourselves while we are voting on the issues. They send us here to fix and address and then have members who are trading stocks on the very issues they're supposed to be voting on.

[A]

The clock is also ticking on government funding. Democrats have threatened with a government shutdown.

[B]

Unless Republicans who control the House and the Senate reach a byproduct partisan agreement with Democrats. We had an opening conversation last week about the importance of trying to find common ground where possible in order to meet the needs of the American people. But in that conversation, I also made clear we're not going to support partisan funding legislation, period. Full stop. The Senate has already reached a bipartisan.

[D]

Agreement on three out of the 12.

[B]

Appropriation bills and the House has passed two. But in a partisan line, Congress will.

[A]

Likely opt for a continuing resolution to avoid a government shutdown.

[B]

This is so tiring. How many times, 20 times have we heard this that we've been at least, oh, getting down to the wire. The government's going to shut down. Checks won't go out.

[A]

But I thought it was all covered by the big beautiful bill again.

[B]

Guess not. I don't know. I've lost control of this one. I, I'll dive in. I'll have information. I'll get information for you on Thursday. I don't know.

[A]

Information will come to light.

[B]

It will. Yes. This is, this is troubling.

[A]

All right, let's keep up with Chicago. This is Trump versus Chicago. So we can see what's going on with Chicago.

[B]

Chicago. Okay. We kind of did that earlier, but let's see.

[A]

Yeah, I should have brought it it in earlier.

[C]

President Trump on social media today threatened Chicago with apocalyptic force.

[A]

Yeah, you're right. This is a redundant clip. Forget it. Kill it.

[B]

Very redundant. Yes.

[A]

Redundant clip. I should have played it earlier.

[B]

Deleting it right now. Delete.

[A]

Well, here's have to do that.

[B]

Oh, too late.

[A]

Well, let's go with this one then. This is kind of the where I think things are headed. They're not going to go to Chicago. They're going to go to New Orleans. And let's play this clip. This is cross crime in New Orleans.

[C]

President Trump says New Orleans could be next in line for a National Guard deployment to fight crime. Trump is also floating the same idea for Chicago and Baltimore. He says Louisiana's Republican governor is urging.

[B]

Him to send in law enforcement to.

[C]

Help police the state's largest city. But local officials in New Orleans don't appear to be on board with the plan.

[B]

Plan. But wait, doesn't have to be the governor. Did she say.

[A]

Yeah, it would be the governor.

[B]

If the governor asked for it, then he can send in National Guard. Isn't that how it works?

[A]

That's right.

[B]

So he's okay.

[A]

So the locals are bitching and moaning. They don't like anything.

[B]

Well, they're very woke in New Orleans. They got so woke during COVID Did you know that?

[A]

Yeah, I understood it.

[B]

Yeah, they got really super woke. Some friends of ours who are younger Surprising. Here in Fredericksburg, They. They initially they wanted to move to New Orleans. They were all in on it. And then because they've been to New Orleans a lot and vacation there and they loved it and loved the food.

[A]

It's fun. The food is good. But the management of that city sucks.

[B]

Horrible. Horrible. Well, that would be a good one. So, you know, all in time for the midterms, the president can show. Oh, look at what's going on here.

[A]

Yeah, we could have done it. Chicago.

[B]

I don't think it's Chicago.

[A]

Yeah, but they were. They were resistant. They didn't like us.

[B]

Bring in the war Department. I love the smell of deportation in the morning. Wait, don't we have an ISO that I should have an ISO of that.

[A]

We should have that ISOed.

[B]

I love the smell of deportations in the morning. It's something about that guy reading that guy reading it that makes it good. I love the smell of deportations in the morning. That's pretty good.

[A]

Here's a very interesting clip. This is my FBI BS Armed public from a vlogger.

[C]

Freaking huge. Armed citizens stopped 48% of all criminal shooters last year. And the FBI was just caught massively lying, lying about those numbers in their public reports they recorded. Get this. None of them. Zero percent. Now, you and I and everyone else have seen those local heroes on social media, but rarely do we ever see these stories in mainstream media. Well, the script is about to flip because a new study by the Crime Prevention Research center reveals that armed civilians stopped over one third of active criminal criminal shooters between 2014 and 2024, nearly 10 times higher than FBI's reported 3.7 average. And again, with even more Americans Getting Armed Post 2020, just last year alone in 2024, civilians stopped half of all criminal shooters. Yet as I just stated, the FBI recorded zero of them. You might be asking, how is this possible? Well, while digging for the study, researchers found that police were often falsely credited instead of the armed civilian, which is a recording pattern that clearly increased over the last 10 years. Now, this begs the question, why would they work so hard to hide the significant benefits of an armed public?

[B]

Okay, so first of all, the term vlogger, that is no longer a thing. So I don't know why you called this YouTube.

[A]

I put it down just to remind me that some independent news.

[B]

No, that's not a news girl. That's.

[A]

This is a youg's a vlogger.

[B]

A YouTuber. And you can sit on YouTube all day and get. My favorite is people say this is a pretty good breakdown. Look at this video. And there's a YouTube video and it's actually some, some video report from mainstream media, which is good. And I'm listening to the report and then oops. All of a sudden a little window appears in the right hand side and the person there is going, yeah, this. Okay, listen to this. That's unusable.

[A]

Yeah, the Tech Grouch does this sort of thing.

[B]

Tech Grouch is dead. I tried to revive him. The Tech Grouch is six feet.

[A]

Nobody likes the tech. Nobody liked that guy.

[B]

The Tech Grouch was great. That's your exit strategy.

[A]

And no, no, yeah, it wasn't meant to be.

[B]

That was basically the Swedish Chef of technology. It was a perfect.

[A]

I could bring that guy in. So I have two. Now I'm going to finish with these two ads.

[B]

Ads?

[A]

Yeah, these are on npr. They're, they're NPR people and PBS people are doing more and more house ads because they don't get, you know, they're trying to get people to listen to some of this stuff, especially the podcasts. NPR in particular is promoting all kinds of screwball podcasts and none of them sound even remotely interesting. I'm sure they don't have any audience at all. And so I've got two, two of them here and they're interested. Npr. And here's the, the first one says add four and it says something I can't read.

[B]

Leaf Kit.

[A]

Yeah, Leaf Kit.

[B]

What is. Is it. Do you meant. Do you mean to write Life Kit?

[A]

Yeah, maybe here at Life Kit, we.

[C]

Encourage you throughout life's big moments. But what about support for those smaller problems? Sometimes you just need a tiny pep talk, like for when your clothes don't.

[B]

Fit or for when you want to.

[D]

Order delivery but should cook.

[C]

That's this week from NPR's Life Kit. Listen in the NPR app or wherever you get your podcasts.

[B]

Oh my goodness.

[A]

What?

[B]

Who listens to that?

[A]

Oh, who would want to live? What kind of a tease is this? Do you have trouble fitting into your clothes? Listen to our show. Hey, John, you don't know whether you should cook. Listen to our show.

[B]

Did you hear the most recent episode of Life Kit? That was just.

[A]

I never listened to Life Kit.

[B]

Leaf Kit. It's called Leaf Kit, actually.

[A]

Well, Life Kit. Leaf Kit. I don't care. I don't listen.

[B]

Why would you. And, and that.

[A]

Ludicrous.

[B]

It's, it's royalty free music made by, by AI.

[A]

So here's the other ad that they're playing a lot A lot of this is. You'd like. This is a religious podcast.

[B]

Oh, yeah, I'm sure I'll love it. Here you go.

[A]

It's called Ye God or something like that. Which is like.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which is insulting, actually. I think so. This is the. This is another. This is the Ye God podcast. Listen to this.

[B]

Life is a mystery. For those of faith or no faith, Ye Gods with Scott Carter is the podcast that makes sense of how we make sense of life. Each week we talk to celebrities, scholars and mere mortals to unearth what on earth we believe and what we don't listen to. Ye Gods with Scott Carter, part of the NPR network. Wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, not gonna listen to that one here. I just put into 11 labs. I said make an NPR style music bed. No vocals. Sounds like pom pom pom pom pom pom pom pom. Let's see if it can do it for me. Maybe. Maybe we might hit upon a gem and we can sell it to npr. Okay. It's creating the intro. Oh, here we go. Come on. Give me the poom poom poom poom. Oh, this is horrible. I suck. Can't believe I spent 10 credits on that.

[A]

Well, I think you did. I think it was 10 credits free account. So the, the. So I think Life kit. I think this is their credit role. You have to go to the top of the list. The credit roll. I think this is the credit roll for a show that probably has a couple of interviews.

[B]

Wait a minute. Wait. Life Kit has a credit roll.

[A]

I believe this is it.

[C]

That's it for this week's show. I'm Rundab Dit Fatah.

[B]

I'm Ramtin. What's her name?

[A]

Ram Rabam. Bomb. Bomb.

[C]

That's it for this week's show. I'm randabdelfattah.

[B]

I'm Ramtin Arab Louis. And you've been listening to throughline from npr.

[C]

This episode was produced by me and.

[B]

Me and Lawrence Wu, Julie Kane, Anya.

[C]

Steinberg, Casey Minor, Christina Kim, Devin Kama, Sarah Wyman, Lena Muhammad, Irene Noguchi.

[B]

Thanks to Tony Cavan, James Heider, Daniel Estrin, Greta Pittenger, Johannes Durg, Puneet Matiwala, Nina Puchalski, Edith Chapin and Colin Campbell.

[C]

Voiceover work in this episode was done by Devin Schwartz, Casey Morell and Nick Nevis.

[B]

Fact checking for this episode was done by Kevin Voelkel.

[A]

This episode was mixed by Gilly Moon.

[C]

Music for this episode was composed by Ramtin and his band Drop Electric, which includes Anya Mizani Naveed, Marvi Sho Fujiwara.

[A]

And finally, if you have an idea or like, something you heard on the show, write [e-mail].

[C]

Thanks for listening.

[B]

Here's an idea. How about less people working on your podcast? That's. Wow. Well, we have clip custodian, clip collector.

[A]

We got Jay.

[B]

We got Jay. We have.

[A]

We have the no agenda.

[B]

Dave Ackerman.

[A]

Mimi.

[B]

Dave Ackerman. We got Mimi in the background. Yeah, we have our artists. We have our end of show mixer. We got one, but we're playing three. Well, we have a lot if. And you know what? If you add all our producers, our credit roll is much longer. I'm gonna show my support by donating. Why are we complaining?

[A]

Imagine all the people who could do that.

[B]

Oh, yeah, that'd be fab. I don't think we should be complaining because our credit roll is longer.

[A]

Yeah, but we don't have such screwy.

[B]

Names, by the way. Okay, got a donation idea from the real Calvin33. I'm not sure why Jay put this on my list, but I told her to. Okay, so this was very interesting donation idea. Sell. Okay, that's not a donation. Sell your truth.

[A]

It's not a donation.

[B]

Sell your printed clip list. That would be yours, I guess, after each show auction, maybe. And can I have last show's list? Well, you put it on there. So you take it away, John.

[A]

Well, I wanted. I put it on there because I wanted you to give me some input on this idea. Because I told him, you know, that's an interesting idea, but who the hell wants this clip list?

[B]

Nobody wants your clip list.

[A]

Well, he says somebody doesn't. He wants to let the show 96. I guess it was.

[B]

Here's. Here's a donation idea. Sell a picture of John in his Speedos with his Crocs on a chaise lounge in the studio. Now that's something I'd have money for.

[A]

Yeah, you would. But I don't have Crocs. I never had Crocs. I don't wear Speedos, and I haven't got a chaise lounge.

[B]

I know. Why do you.

[A]

So I have to go buy all this stuff or you have to have AI make the investment?

[B]

Think of it as an investment.

[A]

Investment in what?

[B]

The picture of a doofus investment. Invest in the show, man. Invest in the show. All right. Well, we do, of course, have our coveted tip of the day on the way. End of show makes his meetup reports. And John is going to thank the rest of our supporters for episode 1797. $50 and above.

[A]

Yeah. Starting with Baronetta's knight, who just got upgraded. She's in Edmonds, Washington. Came with 150 bucks. She's now a viscountess.

[B]

Ah, nice. Yeah. She gets a title upgrade, I think.

[A]

Yes, she does.

[B]

Yeah. Beautiful.

[A]

And so she bumped off the top of the list, our regular Dame Rita in Sparks, Nevada, who comes in 10907.

[B]

And we. We appreciate you, Dame Rita. You're getting up there. She's. She's got to be going.

[A]

Yeah, she's. She's probably a viscountess by now.

[B]

She should check. You should check.

[A]

She's been donating consistently show after show after show for the last year.

[B]

Check your levels.

[A]

Check your levels.

[B]

Check your levels.

[A]

Especially an old Jaguar. Check down levels on those things.

[B]

Check your levels.

[A]

Daniella Pompeu in Los Angeles. 100 bucks. And that's a happy birthday donation.

[B]

Oh, thank you.

[A]

And she's got a birthday, so we'll put her on the list.

[B]

She's on the list.

[A]

Sir Eric in Auburn, Alabama. 100. Here we get all these reversals again. This is strange. Sir Eric and I just did him. Sir Andrew Gardner in Leonardtown, Maryland. 9324. And that's another. That's a happy birthday. This is the 9,325 donations. And there's two of them. Dame Shelley's, the other one from Grand Forks, North Dakota.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

9325. Kevin McLaughlin comes in with 8008.

[B]

By the way, did you see what Andrew Gardner says? He says, I never lived in New York. I was wrong, I guess. It's Richard Gardner. There's a gardener somewhere in New York.

[A]

Yeah, the one I keep saying lives in New York. You're the one that says, I must be wrong.

[B]

I must be wrong.

[A]

Well, you must be.

[B]

Must be.

[A]

You musty Kevin McLaughlin. He's the Archduke of Luna, lover of America and lover of melons. 8008. Syrup, as in syrup Lake Forest Park. 7777. Adam, you found your exit strategy. Jesus.

[B]

That's right. That's my way out. Yeah.

[A]

You're out of here. Get out of here, he says.

[B]

John, you're next. Ah. Join us in the exit strategy, John. You'll. You'll enjoy it.

[A]

Where's the money, Stephen Hutto?

[B]

Store your treasures in heaven, brother. Not. Not in the. In your bar.

[A]

I'm not ready to go.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Stephen Hutto in St. Petersburg, Florida. 75 Mason Strong in Cochrane, Alberta, Canada.

[B]

Hmm.

[A]

Huh. That's the first time from that area. This is $104 in Canadian dollars. Dollarettes.

[B]

And he says, avoid TRT if possible.

[A]

Oh, he's got a long lecture about testosterone replacement therapy.

[B]

Yeah, he actually says if you vape nicotine, you probably your. Your testosterone is fine. That's what's interesting. I'm gonna get the test. I'll find out.

[A]

Well, to get the test is beside the point. What he had to say?

[B]

Well, no, but I just want to know if that's true, then I should have perfect teeth.

[A]

Oh, that's a good point. Yeah. Then you get nothing to complain about. What if it's not true? What if you've been smoking nicotine and then you still have low T? What then? Mason Strong's gonna have to give you more information.

[B]

He says hormone replacement is a lifelong lifetime commitment to big Pharma. Start with good sleep, vitamins, and exercise first. I could exercise more, that's for sure.

[A]

Well, who can't?

[B]

I walk. I walk three times a day with the dog.

[A]

That's my Michael Edmond in Brooking, South Dakota. And that's. These are happy birthdays. I'm going to read names and locations. These are all people saying, happy birthday, Adam. And except for, I would have to say Stephen and Ruby. Stephen and Ruby in Pine Bluff, Arkansas, who's a also saying, happy belated birthday. Oh, no. Is that belated? These are all belated.

[B]

They're all belated.

[A]

Momentum Finance LLC in Eden, Utah. There you go. Amy Harmon in Asheville, North Carolina. Gordon Walton in Austin. Well, you were just there.

[B]

That's Baron David Duke, whatever he is.

[A]

Stern Meyer. Is it the Stein? He's in Lakeview, Michigan. And this is Switcheroo. It's donating on behalf of my wife, Alexandra Hilliker. Hilliker. She needs a de douching.

[C]

You've been de douched.

[A]

And last, a couple more on these. David Cox. And he's also in Austin. We got Austin covered. Teresa, dummy. What? Oh. Teresa Dempster Andrews in Camarillo, Brillo, California. 6000, 161. Which is B.

[B]

Birthday.

[A]

Birthday, birthday, birthday. Sarah Gardner in Wilmington, N.C. 61. And these are all 60 ones. Rob Barron in Leiden. Ah. Douglas.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

Ingrid Angstrom in Sandy Lake, Pennsylvania.

[B]

Look, a bitcoin donation.

[A]

He's got a title change. That's not bitcoin.

[B]

Blue is not bitcoin. Oh, it's purple.

[A]

Bitcoin is purple.

[B]

Title change in accounting, it'll become Sir Douglas Angstrom becomes baronet of the French Creek Crick. I'm sorry. French Creek Valley. French Creek Valley. Okay, got it.

[A]

Blue is Stripe. You'll find all your bitcoin donations go to the very bottom of the list and you'll find most people are giving us 10 cents, 20 cents.

[B]

I don't know what I think. Even three cents. One cent. Yes. Yeah, that's 11 cents.

[A]

Big spenders.

[B]

Yeah, that's the bitcoin.

[A]

Michael Ragusa in They're hodling, man.

[B]

They're hodling. They don't want to spend their bitcoin on us.

[A]

Yeah. Well, that was what I suspected. R. David Weiker in Jacksonville. Which wicker do I keep saying? Weiker?

[B]

Yes, for that would be with a Y maybe. I don't know how you get Weicker. That's Sir By His Grace. He's a knight.

[A]

I plead guilty.

[B]

Yes, sir.

[A]

B. Boop. He's in New Brighton, Minnesota. That's a happy birthday to you again. Jordan Gerald Preston in Bennington, New Nebraska. Sean Murray in Warrenville, Illinois. Go Bears. Cameron Linga in North Branch, Minnesota. Nuts. And that's the end of our well wishers, which is still a few more. We had quite a few total. So they're all saying happy birthday Adam. Les Tarkowski in Kingman, Arizona. 6006. Steve Bandstra, he's in Nashville. 6993 Pilot Sirs BNA Dame Nancy, she's in San Bruno over here and she has a note she came in with 55 and she says donate. It helps the show and it's good for your soul.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Troy Funderberk in Missoula, Montana. 55. I like the way these. If you notice the US the states have been reversed again. Re reversed. And now we're back to the oddball. Eric. So that, that was a check. So that was put in properly. The rest of these are. It's weird. I have to ask Jay what happened. Eric Johnson in Vienna, West Virginia. 5272. Josiah Thomas in Ankeny, Iowa. 51. Now we got the $50 donors. I'll just read them off. $50 donors starting with Alex Zavala. And he's Alex, he's in Kylie, Texas.

[B]

Kyle, Sir Alex.

[A]

Stephen. Ray in Spokane. Jacob or Jacob Roll Romul, one of those names. And he's in Decatur, Illinois. And Ed, Missouri is in Memphis, Tennessee. We haven't heard from him for a while. Ray Howard in Kremmeling Kremlin, Cramling, Colorado. And last on our list of well wishers and supporters and producers is Carrie Jackson in Watertown, Tennessee. I want to thank all these folks for making show 1797 the reality that.

[B]

Has become and thank especially these 50 donors. I love seeing you and the 61s. Thank you all for the birthday wishes as much appreciated. Anybody can support the show any any way you want, time, talent or treasure. Go to noagendadonations.com any amount, anytime you want. Whatever the value you receive from the show, send it back to us and you can become a sustaining donor by supporting us with a recurring donation. Any amount, any frequency, no agenda. Donations.com well it's going to be another short one. Daniela Pompe Thomps Papio belated happy birthday to her. She celebrated on August 30th. So we say Happy belated birthday from everybody here at the best podcast at the Universe. So we have two. We have Baroness Knight now becomes Viscount Knight and Sir Douglas Angstrom becomes Sir Douglas Angstrom, Baronet of the French Creek. Both thanks to the additional $1,000 in aggregate that you supported the best podcast in the universe with. We appreciate you for all that. And we do have one Secretary General to celebrate today. All hail to the Secretary Generals cause they are the ones. All hail to the Secretary Generals on the no Agenda show. And that Secretary General is James Dumont and he becomes the Attorney. He says Attorney General but a Secretary General of the Gen xers. Go to noagendarings.com you'll be able to get your attestation in the mail. And congratulations as the Secretary General on the no Agenda show. All hail to the Secretary Generals Cuz they are the ones who need hailing. All hail to the Secretary Generals on the no Agenda show. And time for the meetups. Yeah, we got a couple left in September. Actually we have a couple this week. We've got one today that is well underway in the Netherlands. Our first Head Village Forest meetup that is at Dachkemping Haarlemer Meer Sobos in Hofdorp, North Holland in the Netherlands. I expect a meetup report from you guys tomorrow. Not very often we get one on Monday. The Kootenay Mountains and Rivers meetup 3:33pm Pacific Time. The Dam Restaurant and Bar in South Slocane, British Columbia. I expect a meetup report from you. Well, still to come in the month of September, Keyport, New Jersey Oakland, California. John will be there. Charlotte, North Carolina Tilburg in the Netherlands, Bedford, Texas Fort Wayne, Indiana Indianapolis, Indiana. We're hoping Dame Maria and Sir Mark will be back. And of course we got two Texas meetups in October. On the list so far. Johnson city on the 10th and right down the road about 45 minutes here in Fredericksburg on the 11th at J6 or Jenny's Place. I'll be there along with Tina the keeper, and many other luminaries from the Fredericksburg area. Go to noagendameetups.com find out how you can get protection from the connection you get. At these meetups, you will meet the people who are the first responders in your life. You need this. And once you go to one, you can't stop. Noagendameetups.com if you can't find one near you, start one yourself.

[A]

And days.

[B]

You want to be where you won't be triggered on Hell.

[A]

It's like a party.

[B]

Isn't like a party. It's just like a party, everybody. All right. I have 1, 2, 3. I have 4. You have 1. You want me to play mine first?

[A]

Yeah, please.

[C]

That's it. It's a wrap. It's over.

[B]

Okay, that's one. The best.

[A]

The best. The best.

[B]

The best. The best. Alex keeps on giving, man. Okay, Boomer. And my final one is a classic that we already played. I love the smell of deportations in the morning. It's not too bad.

[A]

Okay, I'm gonna put mine off to next show because I like the Alex Jones one so much.

[B]

The best. The best. The best. The best. The best. And now, before we get to that and the end of show mixes, it's time for John's tip of the day. Great advice for you and me. Just the tip with JCD and sometimes Adam.

[A]

Well, here's a. I'm at the point where in the rotation, I have to find a good website that people should put on their list of things to visit constantly. And this is for the CEOs, wannabe CEOs, people interested in business and finance. Finance people in finance, investors. That type of person is. It's a. And I think this is. I think it's AI that does this. There's no other way. It's a massive scraping operation that is pretty phenomenal, to be honest about it. They've got some good code. So when you hover over things, all kinds of action takes place. It's a site called Biz Talk, as in table of contents, B I, Z, T o, c dot com.

[B]

Biz Talk.

[A]

Biz Talk is a killer site.

[B]

Hold on. Something must be wrong, because I get.

[A]

A.

[B]

I get a parking page. B I, z z or 1 z.

[A]

B I z, t o, c dot com.

[B]

Okay, I got. Whoa, whoa. There's a lot here.

[A]

Scroll down.

[B]

Scrolling down. Yeah, there's a lot of. This is like a show. A show prep Page.

[A]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

There's a lot going on here. This is a scraping operation.

[A]

It's a hell of a scraping operation, believe me, man. I think it's borderline, probably illegal.

[B]

Well, they have a legal state statement here. Their registered trademark of Tomatic Inc.

[A]

Okay, yeah, maybe it's overseas. I'm not sure what they're doing, but this is pretty phenomenal. It's a great website, people. Would you get a kick out of it? It's good for your morning briefing, going into the office. You sit down. God, what I got to do here today. And you go, you catch up with the everything on this website.

[B]

So did you look at the Abu Aboot page?

[A]

Actually, I did not look at the Aboot page.

[B]

I am Thomas Marban and I created Biz Talk, official successor of the infamous Web 2.0 phenomenon pop URLs. After building award winning news aggregators for two decades, Biz Talk is the ultimate attempt in delivering the entire business world on a single page. And check this. Biz Talk is proudly crafted in Austria and backed by American entrepreneur Mark Mark Cuban. Oh, how about that? Well, then you know, Then you know it's legit.

[A]

Mark Cuban. So if you're gonna sue anybody, Mark Cuban is your deep pockets.

[B]

And there it is, everybody. The tip of the day. Find them [e-mail] and sometimes.

[A]

Adam Green, created by Dana Burnetti.

[B]

Well, Mark Cuban, he sure has his fingers in all the pies, doesn't he? Biz Talk. Biz Talk.

[A]

Could we have a better name?

[B]

It could be a better name. Especially if you type in Biz Talk with a K. Then you're screwed. They should get that domain, probably.

[A]

I said table of contents is what they're referring to.

[B]

Yeah, I understand. I. I'm. I'm an idiot. Just letting you know. That's right. Okay. Boom. And your show mix is from Joseph Grillo. That's a brand new one. We got Classic Clip Custodian and Tom Starkweather Classics, all of them. We're looking for more end of show mixes. Come on, guys, what you doing? Get on the stick. And Canary Cry News Talk is next on the no Agenda stream. And if you feel like hanging out on your modern podcast app or noagendastream.com and we return on Thursday with more media deconstruction for you. Who knows what will happen? We might be invading New Orleans. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill country where we won the Powerball. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

[A]

And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'm going to go to Amazon and order my pink salt. I'm John C. Dvorak.

[B]

We'll be back on Thursday. Until then, remember us atno agenda donations dot com. Adios mo fosa. Hooey. Hooey. And you're eating cardboard. We'd always say that you're eating.

[A]

I think my parents said cardboard.

[B]

Cardboard. I'm a boomer. We are the boomers. You're a little bit older than I am, so you do cross into true boomer territory. Too old for chicks to care. Boomers.

[A]

I'm a true boomer.

[B]

Get out of my way, Boomer. Kawaii diddy. God bless the mother Boomers.

[A]

We're boomers and you're a dipshit. Boomer alert, boy.

[B]

When I was a kid, it was.

[A]

Made out of plastic. Let me just tell you this. It's not going to get any more better. No.

[B]

Those boomers. Those boomers with their Jew money.

[A]

We don't get any chew money.

[B]

This is the boomer benefit. Boomer talk on display.

[A]

You don't want to watch a couple boomers.

[B]

I mean, what's worse than two boomers on the podcast is two boomers on a video podcast. Can't imagine that.

[A]

I'm the real boomer. The two of us combined mind is 100 years plus.

[B]

You see now why we have boomer benefits? Kamikaze drones. Kamikaze drones.

[A]

Kamikaze drones.

[B]

These are lethal drones.

[C]

Kamikaze drones.

[B]

These are lethal drones. Kamikaze drones. Kamikaze drones.

[A]

Kamikaze drones.

[B]

Me? Yes, you.

[A]

Oh, pedaling in halfway truths. Pedaling in false statements. Pedaling in theories that, you know, create.

[B]

Doubt about whether or not things that.

[A]

We know are safe, are unsafe.

[B]

You frighten people in a gob. Smacking statement of irresponsibility. Almost all the members of this panel are accepting, including yourself, are accepting millions of dollars for the pharmaceutical elementary. Oh, no. Protecting their interest.

[A]

Oh, I thought that that would. Are you supportive of these onesies?

[B]

I'm supportive of vaccines. You are going to do such a.

[C]

Solid job for the people of this country.

[B]

How long does it keep going?

[C]

At some time.

[B]

You're just battering the witness.

[A]

Not battering the witnesses.

[B]

You're getting excited at him. You're going at him just like anybody else would.

[A]

Going over the best podcast in the universe.

[B]

Audios mofo devorak. Org na the best. The best. The best. The best. The best.