No Agenda Show – Episode 1799 "Taproot"

September 14, 2025
Hosts: Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak

Episode Overview

This episode of the award-winning No Agenda Show delves into the fallout and mysteries surrounding the assassination of Charlie Kirk, the behavior and response of major media outlets, and the deeper societal, political, and international narratives being pushed in the aftermath. Adam and John dissect both the facts and the coded language emerging in media coverage and explore possible puppet masters directing the show. They also launch Adam's new "Anglo-Dutch" theory of global manipulation. The show remains true to its trademark mix of skepticism, wit, deep dives, media deconstruction, and the occasional rabbit hole.

Key Themes & Discussions

1. Media Avoidance and Deconstruction Post-Assassination

• Mainstream media, especially Fox, is accused of dodging the controversial elements of the Charlie Kirk assassination, particularly any discussion involving the transgender roommate and political motivations ([00:56], [17:07], [19:15]).
• Adam and John highlight how talking points are dropped or edited to avoid controversy, pointing out the suspicious avoidance of certain facts in ABC and Fox reporting ([20:19], [24:03]).
• Quote:

  "They are avoiding this topic like the plague." — Adam Curry, [00:56]

2. Coded Language, Motifs, and "33" Symbolism

• The repeated mention of "33 hours" by officials is identified as suspicious "code" or signaling, part of a media pattern that the hosts have tracked for years ([03:52]-[05:36]).
• Quote:

  "The 33s that got me right away. I'm like, okay, yeah, the 33 is a problem." — Adam Curry, [22:06]

3. Misinformation, Social Consequences & Free Speech Hypocrisy

• The show's media analysis extends to the consequences of speech on social media, as several public employees (councilmen, firefighters, teachers) face firings for their online comments about Kirk's death ([08:48]-[13:49]).
• Adam and John underline the selective outrage and shifting standards of what is "acceptable" opinion, especially when it comes to violence or death of public figures.

4. Media's Narrative Construction: Demonizing Opponents & Valorization of Violence

• The hosts play supercuts of cable news voices and guests, especially from MSNBC and PBS, who equate MAGA and Republicans with Nazis, terrorists, or cult members ([13:49]-[16:35]).
• They critique the rhetoric of dehumanizing political opponents, tying it into a broader historical pattern and the susceptibility of educators and children to media narratives.
• Quote:

  "That MAGA symbol has come to represent something. It is the new Nazi symbol. It is the New hood." — Guest on MSNBC supercut, [13:49]

5. Taproot: A Metaphor & Its Origins

• A key discussion involves the use of the term "taproot" on CBS by a professor described as associated with intelligence operations. Adam and John trace its origins from botany into possible intel and tech slang, suspecting coded use in the media (from [36:05]).
• Quote:

  "This is really the taproot and that's why we expect this, left to its own devices, will get worse and be with us for 10 years." — CBS Guest, [34:39]

6. Polarization, Doxxing, and the New "Peril"

• They explore the rise of public doxxing campaigns, including from right-wing activists targeting educators or public sector employees. The discussion includes analysis from Cynthia Miller-Idris of the PERIL lab, reflecting how both sides use shame, ostracism, and economic sanction for online speech ([58:23]-[68:41]).
• The conversation also covers how leaders and academic experts frame the moment as one of unprecedented polarization and violence, but Adam and John challenge comparisons to the genuine unrest of the 1960s–70s ([31:23]).

7. Blame-Shifting: Political Violence and Root Causes

• The hosts critique the academic framing of political violence—often blamed on "populism," the Internet, or demographic/racial change instead of looking critically at all sides ([29:17]-[34:39]).
• They call out the inconsistency and historical amnesia in these analyses, noting how much more violent past decades have been than the current period.

8. Discursive Operations and the "Anglo-Dutch" Hypothesis

• Adam introduces a new ongoing thesis: that the real “taproot” of anti-American destabilization comes not from the overt Deep State or globalists, but from European (Anglo-Dutch) monarchy/oligarchical systems ([86:46]-[93:25], [97:00]-[100:49]).
• He ties this into banking, historical media/propaganda operations, and modern events from financial scandals to war-mongering.
• Quote:

  "Trump isn't just fighting globalists. He's taking on the European monarchy and oligarchy, led by the British monarchy and its Dutch and European partners." — Susan Kokinda, Prometheus Action, [87:54]

• John plays along, supporting the new crackpot (in the show’s tradition) theory as a worthy, long-running investigative angle.

9. World Events: NATO, Energy Wars, and British/EU Politics

• Updates on Trump’s foreign policy posturing—particularly around NATO oil buying, ‘trolling’ the Europeans, and the suggestion of a new American-led financial/energy order to undercut the Europe-centric system ([101:01]-[106:17]).
• The segment covers current French and British political unrest, probing for links to the broader "systemic" manipulations outlined above.

10. Social Media, Censorship, and Blame Games

• US politicians and pundits, including Utah’s Governor Spencer Cox and Mayor Pete Buttigieg, are featured attacking social media as the cause of radicalization and violence, with underlying calls for censorship ([119:08]-[136:05]).
• Adam and John warn that this media agenda is likely a prelude to digital IDs and increased state control over speech.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (W/Timestamps)

• On the 33-hour “code”

  "So it's code." — Adam Curry, [05:53]
  "Of course it's code." — John C. Dvorak, [05:55]

• On the media’s sanitized reporting

  "They pulled out the whole trans shooter thing." — John C. Dvorak, [24:03]

• On academic taproots and media messaging

  "'Taproot' pops up in intelligence and network context... It's slang for a covert command hub in espionage nets." — AI assistant, [38:21]

• On digital blame and social media

  "I believe that social media has played a direct role in every single assassination and assassination attempt that we have seen over the last six years." — Spencer Cox, [132:08]

• On Anglo-Dutch influence

  "If there has been a destabilizing factor throughout certainly the last ten years, but maybe forever... it's the Anglo-Dutch system." — Adam Curry, [91:36]

• On teachers and MSNBC

  "She watched MSNBC religiously. It was her church. So this is what's happening." — John C. Dvorak, [16:35]

Important Segment Timestamps

• Media’s Avoidance & Code-Speak – [00:56] – [07:47]
• Popular Reactions & Doxxing – [09:03] – [13:49]
• Media Rhetoric Supercut – [13:49] – [16:35]
• ABC/Fox News Editing – [19:28] – [24:03]
• Academic Blame Game / Taproot – [29:35] – [34:39]
• Anglo-Dutch "System" / New Crackpot Theory – [86:46] – [93:25], [97:00] – [100:49]
• Political Violence: Past vs. Present – [31:23] – [32:17]
• Social Media & Censorship Narrative – [119:08] – [136:12]
• Tip of the Day (ASI 502 RTV Sealant) – [195:09] – [197:24]

Tone & Style

Adam and John maintain a mix of irreverence, dark humor, and deep skepticism—poking fun at both the absurdities of media reporting and the larger narratives being woven in society. Their exchanges are freewheeling, frequently looping callers, guests, or media personalities into running gags, and always finding new crackpot theories to investigate.

Conclusion

No Agenda 1799 is densely packed with clips, analysis, and deconstruction, centered around the meaning and manipulation of the Charlie Kirk assassination story—and what it reveals about American media, political speech, and global power. With new conspiracy-theory directions and the usual media cynicism, Curry and Dvorak keep listeners thinking, laughing, and, as always, just a little bit more skeptical of the official story.

For New Listeners:

If you want unvarnished, often uncomfortable, and always entertaining media analysis, listen to No Agenda. This episode showcases the hosts at their best—relentlessly questioning, connecting dots, and putting everything (and everyone) on the table, all with the expectation that you’ll make up your own mind.